WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.450 --> 00:00:11.029 Hi, I'm Ashley, a true crime fanatic. 2 00:00:11.390 --> 00:00:13.429 I'm Dan, and I don't know anything about true crime. 3 00:00:13.630 --> 00:00:16.690 Together, we host Fuck That, a true crime podcast that 4 00:00:16.730 --> 00:00:19.949 covers cases that highlight important topics that are often overlooked, 5 00:00:20.329 --> 00:00:23.100 such as wrongful convictions, and the like. domestic violence, and 6 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:26.859 social inequities sprinkled in with the occasional case with spooky themes. 7 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:29.440 If you are looking for your next true crime fix 8 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:32.450 delivered candidly with a hint of sarcasm, you can listen 9 00:00:32.549 --> 00:00:35.689 and subscribe to bi-weekly episodes of Fuck That wherever you 10 00:00:35.729 --> 00:00:38.289 listen to your podcasts. And don't forget to give us 11 00:00:38.329 --> 00:00:42.320 a follow on Facebook and Twitter at fthatpod and at 12 00:00:42.500 --> 00:00:44.320 fthat underscore pod on Instagram. 13 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:49.530 Hey y'all, welcome back to Mountain Murders. I'm Heather. 14 00:00:49.789 --> 00:00:50.490 And I'm Dylan. 15 00:00:50.549 --> 00:00:51.969 Hey Dylan, how's it going? 16 00:00:52.149 --> 00:00:53.829 What's up girl, how you doing? 17 00:00:54.109 --> 00:00:58.530 I'm doing very well. I had an amazing evening last night. 18 00:00:58.649 --> 00:01:03.009 I took my son to his first big concert. And now, okay, 19 00:01:03.409 --> 00:01:06.489 I'm gonna preface this by saying, last year we tried 20 00:01:06.510 --> 00:01:08.769 to take him to see Limp Bizkit and we got 21 00:01:08.829 --> 00:01:09.349 rained out. 22 00:01:09.969 --> 00:01:11.500 Yeah, we were supposed to see Corey. 23 00:01:11.900 --> 00:01:12.579 Corey Feldman. 24 00:01:12.739 --> 00:01:14.900 The Corey Feldman Band and Limp Bizkit. 25 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:15.840 Corey and the Angels. 26 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.659 And the only act we saw was a no-name guy 27 00:01:18.739 --> 00:01:19.780 no one's ever heard of. 28 00:01:19.819 --> 00:01:22.079 Yeah, and we got rained out. So it was really disappointing. 29 00:01:22.099 --> 00:01:24.579 I was able to take my son to see Rob 30 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.750 Zombie and Marilyn Manson last night. Now, I've seen Zombie 31 00:01:27.829 --> 00:01:32.030 like many times. Probably five, six times. 32 00:01:32.689 --> 00:01:32.890 Oh. 33 00:01:32.909 --> 00:01:38.209 Right? But I've never seen Marilyn Manson. And I gotta say, Dylan, 34 00:01:38.230 --> 00:01:43.400 I was impressed. He sounds great live. I really didn't think, 35 00:01:44.219 --> 00:01:46.590 you know, when you hear Manson's music, I was like, 36 00:01:46.730 --> 00:01:48.489 I don't know how that's going to translate to a 37 00:01:48.530 --> 00:01:50.609 live show. But he killed it. 38 00:01:51.230 --> 00:01:53.629 Yeah, I mean, even from the videos you shared with me, 39 00:01:53.689 --> 00:01:54.769 it sounded really good. 40 00:01:54.989 --> 00:01:56.989 Yeah, it was great. And I'm not saying I've always 41 00:01:57.010 --> 00:02:00.260 been like the biggest Manson fan. I do like Marilyn Manson. 42 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:04.400 I know he's a bit of a controversial figure for some. 43 00:02:05.620 --> 00:02:07.239 But I thought he was amazing last night. 44 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:11.780 He has been throughout the years, various issues, right? 45 00:02:12.060 --> 00:02:14.819 Yeah. Oh, there were some protesters there. 46 00:02:15.659 --> 00:02:16.189 Outside? 47 00:02:16.340 --> 00:02:21.330 Yeah. Some like Jesus protesters. And here's the thing, Dylan. 48 00:02:22.289 --> 00:02:27.509 I am fully supportive of y'all's freedom to practice whatever 49 00:02:27.569 --> 00:02:30.810 religion you feel, right? And you can show up at 50 00:02:30.849 --> 00:02:33.469 a show and protest if you'd like, but it's just 51 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:36.719 the way in which they do it. Like these signs 52 00:02:36.860 --> 00:02:39.259 basically telling you like you're going to hell and you're 53 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:41.259 a piece of shit if you listen to this music. 54 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.460 This guy was screaming at us like, you can't love 55 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:48.180 Jesus and listen to this music. And it's like screaming 56 00:02:48.219 --> 00:02:51.409 at people. And it's like, sir, this is not going 57 00:02:51.530 --> 00:02:54.270 to bring people to your message. 58 00:02:54.710 --> 00:02:56.250 No, it's counterproductive. 59 00:02:56.270 --> 00:02:57.449 It's very counterproductive. 60 00:02:57.550 --> 00:03:00.889 Yeah, we went to a few concerts together. And the 61 00:03:00.930 --> 00:03:04.810 only one I saw remember protests at was the Billy Otto. 62 00:03:05.770 --> 00:03:06.110 Right. 63 00:03:07.009 --> 00:03:11.789 The aging Billy Otto crowd in concert. Which was hilarious 64 00:03:11.830 --> 00:03:12.110 to me. 65 00:03:12.530 --> 00:03:15.650 There was also someone ripping out pages of a Bible 66 00:03:15.689 --> 00:03:19.050 and throwing them at people. So they're... So I'm not 67 00:03:19.069 --> 00:03:21.879 really sure what that was about either, but again.. 68 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:25.240 They're defacing a Bible to protest their religion. 69 00:03:25.300 --> 00:03:27.259 It does not seem that you are going to bring 70 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:30.520 people to your side of the aisle when you're being 71 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:31.219 very hateful. 72 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:32.659 Yeah, I don't get it. 73 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:36.379 And saying very vile things to people. because you don't 74 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.439 like their secular music choices. 75 00:03:38.620 --> 00:03:38.960 I don't know. 76 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.439 Very strange, but we had a great time. I'm feeling pumped. 77 00:03:43.300 --> 00:03:45.319 I'm ready for more concerts, Dylan. 78 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:48.560 Let's do it. I will sing to you. 79 00:03:49.389 --> 00:03:53.669 So, speaking of concerts, don't forget, fall is just around 80 00:03:53.710 --> 00:03:57.389 the corner, Dylan. And you know how much a bitch 81 00:03:57.449 --> 00:03:58.090 loves fall. 82 00:03:58.469 --> 00:04:01.280 God, I love fall, too. You know why I love fall? 83 00:04:01.860 --> 00:04:03.379 Because I get my hoodies out. 84 00:04:03.889 --> 00:04:05.050 You love hoodie season. 85 00:04:05.110 --> 00:04:10.289 I love hoodie season because it's comfortable, right? It's comfortable. 86 00:04:10.969 --> 00:04:13.250 I'm at the point in my health journey where I 87 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:17.319 actually look semi-good in a hoodie. Way better than I 88 00:04:17.339 --> 00:04:20.759 do a t-shirt. Hides my fat I have left. And 89 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:22.500 I'm just going to wear a hoodie all the time. 90 00:04:23.139 --> 00:04:26.540 I love that you have like a dressy hoodie and 91 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:28.379 then like a casual hoodie. 92 00:04:28.420 --> 00:04:30.639 That's right. That's my going out hoodie. 93 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:32.519 Yeah, you've got going out hoodies. 94 00:04:33.100 --> 00:04:33.339 Yeah. 95 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:34.379 It's real fancy. 96 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:37.519 You better believe it. And it's so easy, right? You 97 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:41.279 just throw your T-shirt on. Boom. Hoodie, jeans, tinnies. 98 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:41.699 Yeah. 99 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:42.560 You're ready to ride. 100 00:04:42.579 --> 00:04:45.959 You're like, this is my $ 75 Black Craft hoodie. 101 00:04:46.180 --> 00:04:46.720 That's right. 102 00:04:46.740 --> 00:04:49.500 It's fancy. It's a fancy hoodie. Yeah, so I wanted 103 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:52.879 to mention Fall Around the Corner. Fuck yeah, it's Fall Fest. 104 00:04:53.740 --> 00:04:56.680 It's a rock show. It's a night market. It's going 105 00:04:56.699 --> 00:04:57.519 to be fucking rad. 106 00:04:58.339 --> 00:05:01.160 I can't believe we got invited to this, and I 107 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:03.790 cannot wait to go. It's going to be such a 108 00:05:03.819 --> 00:05:04.379 good time. 109 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.290 If you are in and around Asheville, North Carolina, or 110 00:05:07.329 --> 00:05:09.610 you're looking for a fun road trip, make your way 111 00:05:09.629 --> 00:05:13.329 to Asheville September 25th. That is a Friday. Show starts 112 00:05:13.389 --> 00:05:17.009 at 5. This is at the Sly Grog Lounge in 113 00:05:17.069 --> 00:05:23.160 downtown Asheville at 271 Haywood Street, Asheville. The Sly Grog 114 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:27.769 is a fucking rad, super cool venue. We haven't been 115 00:05:27.790 --> 00:05:30.350 there in a minute, and I'm stoked that we are 116 00:05:30.370 --> 00:05:32.430 going to go to the Sly Grog. When I was 117 00:05:32.470 --> 00:05:35.389 doing burlesque shows, this was one of our kind of 118 00:05:35.529 --> 00:05:37.600 a rotation spot. We did a lot of shows at 119 00:05:37.620 --> 00:05:40.240 the Grog. Just a really cool venue, like I said. 120 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.920 Punk bands all evening long. 121 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:45.259 Man, I can't wait. 122 00:05:45.420 --> 00:05:48.990 And like a spooky market. Some of the artists that 123 00:05:49.009 --> 00:05:51.389 are going to be there, I'm very excited about, like 124 00:05:51.709 --> 00:05:56.250 Haints and Hollers Apothecary. That makes me happy. The Nomadic 125 00:05:56.490 --> 00:05:57.329 Owl Oracle. 126 00:05:58.110 --> 00:05:59.029 Those sound awesome. 127 00:05:59.550 --> 00:06:04.459 Yeah. Rome Coffee and Bakery. We've got Nathan King live painting. 128 00:06:05.660 --> 00:06:06.579 That sounds so cool. 129 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:08.620 So it starts at 5 p.m. And guess what? Tickets 130 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:11.120 are only $ 10. 131 00:06:10.019 --> 00:06:12.600 And it's even a great deal. 132 00:06:12.699 --> 00:06:16.779 You have like a WWE cat wrestling match happening right 133 00:06:16.939 --> 00:06:17.560 by your chair. 134 00:06:18.180 --> 00:06:18.759 Break it up. 135 00:06:18.779 --> 00:06:21.459 Is it distracting? No. I can tell. 136 00:06:21.540 --> 00:06:22.439 It's not bothering me a bit. 137 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:23.519 You're feeling a bit distracted. 138 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:27.579 Break it up, boys. All right. So here we are. 139 00:06:27.660 --> 00:06:31.560 Cannot wait for the Fuck Y'all Fall Festival. Oh, my gosh. 140 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:37.240 So many good things coming down the pike. It's almost Halloween. Oh, yeah. 141 00:06:37.259 --> 00:06:39.920 We're going to have crisp, cool evenings. Like I said, 142 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.029 hoodie weather. Oh, my gosh. 143 00:06:42.089 --> 00:06:45.069 It's a great time to gather around the fire pit. 144 00:06:45.410 --> 00:06:45.730 Yes. 145 00:06:45.750 --> 00:06:46.750 Listen to Mountain Murders. 146 00:06:47.170 --> 00:06:47.850 It really is. 147 00:06:47.870 --> 00:06:49.910 It's a great time for Mountain Murders. And if you're 148 00:06:49.930 --> 00:06:52.290 looking for a new hoodie, check out our merch shop. 149 00:06:52.329 --> 00:06:56.829 If you go to our website, mountainmurderspodcast.com, you'll be able 150 00:06:56.889 --> 00:07:01.209 to shop our merch. Find yourself a hoodie for fall. 151 00:07:01.529 --> 00:07:02.100 You can. 152 00:07:02.250 --> 00:07:02.569 Yeah. 153 00:07:02.740 --> 00:07:05.399 You can join me in the hoodie army. 154 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.160 Yeah. Let them know. Let them know loud and proud, 155 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:10.379 you Mountain Murders fans. 156 00:07:10.740 --> 00:07:14.699 Be like, what set you repping, homie? 157 00:07:16.420 --> 00:07:19.610 I'm repping the Mount Murders. All right, Dylan, are you 158 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.790 ready to get into today's case? This is a case 159 00:07:22.870 --> 00:07:27.089 I followed for many years. I wanted to discuss this 160 00:07:27.170 --> 00:07:30.810 case on Mount Murders. We're finally getting around to it 161 00:07:31.310 --> 00:07:34.930 and just in time to have closure in the case 162 00:07:35.029 --> 00:07:40.300 because it started as a missing persons case and ended tragically. 163 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:41.459 Oh my gosh. 164 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:43.139 Let's get into it. 165 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:44.139 Let's start. 166 00:07:44.459 --> 00:07:49.649 Morgan Bauer was born on April 13th, 1996 in Vermillion, 167 00:07:49.709 --> 00:07:53.930 South Dakota. Now Vermillion is in the southeastern corner of 168 00:07:53.990 --> 00:07:59.290 South Dakota between Iowa and Nebraska. Morgan's mother, Sherry, had 169 00:07:59.329 --> 00:08:03.339 a daughter, Alyssa, from a previous relationship. And Morgan's parents 170 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:07.600 did not stay together and eventually separated. Afterward, Morgan lived 171 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:10.410 in Tennessee for a little bit. Morgan and her mother 172 00:08:10.550 --> 00:08:14.310 ultimately settled in Aberdeen, which is in the northeastern part 173 00:08:14.430 --> 00:08:18.769 of South Dakota, almost as far north as North Dakota. 174 00:08:20.430 --> 00:08:22.110 Have you ever been to the Dakotas? 175 00:08:22.129 --> 00:08:24.310 I have never been to the Dakotas. I would love 176 00:08:24.350 --> 00:08:26.990 to go. My dad was a truck driver. I mentioned 177 00:08:27.009 --> 00:08:30.329 that before on the show. And the Dakotas, that was 178 00:08:30.379 --> 00:08:31.769 like one of his favorite places. 179 00:08:32.580 --> 00:08:33.000 Oh, really? 180 00:08:33.019 --> 00:08:36.279 To deliver, to travel. He said it was beautiful. 181 00:08:36.299 --> 00:08:38.500 I want to go see the Badlands. 182 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:41.480 Yeah. Just the name alone. 183 00:08:41.500 --> 00:08:42.139 Yeah, I know. 184 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:42.860 Makes me want to go. 185 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:44.299 I know, it's awesome. Yeah, I know. 186 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:47.779 I haven't been to certain parts of the Midwest and 187 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:51.370 then the Pacific Northwest. One day, I've been all over 188 00:08:51.409 --> 00:08:53.330 the United States, but one day we're going to take 189 00:08:53.350 --> 00:08:55.389 a road trip and we're going to see some of 190 00:08:55.409 --> 00:08:55.909 these spots. 191 00:08:56.330 --> 00:08:59.330 I would like to fly out to the Pacific Northwest 192 00:09:00.190 --> 00:09:00.750 and drive. 193 00:09:00.769 --> 00:09:01.370 To the Pacific? 194 00:09:01.830 --> 00:09:02.090 Yes. 195 00:09:02.230 --> 00:09:04.789 To a specific spot in the Northwest or just. 196 00:09:05.230 --> 00:09:08.379 And rent a car and just. Check out the coastline 197 00:09:08.419 --> 00:09:10.179 and a bunch of these, you know, places I've always 198 00:09:10.220 --> 00:09:11.419 heard of but never seen. 199 00:09:11.580 --> 00:09:14.779 Yeah, I know. If we were headed up the Oregon coast, 200 00:09:14.860 --> 00:09:17.600 perhaps we could stop off and see CJ, host of 201 00:09:18.100 --> 00:09:18.779 Rainbow Crimes. 202 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:19.580 Oh, wow. 203 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:20.620 Dark Cast Network. 204 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:22.990 That would be awesome. 205 00:09:23.330 --> 00:09:25.990 CJ be living in the Oregon area, and I've always 206 00:09:26.009 --> 00:09:30.620 wanted to visit. It looks absolutely gorgeous. Especially if you're 207 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:35.259 an outdoors enthusiast, which I kind of am. Unless there 208 00:09:35.299 --> 00:09:36.740 are bugs involved or snakes. 209 00:09:36.860 --> 00:09:40.210 Yeah, sometimes we're indoor enthusiasts. Enthusiasts. 210 00:09:41.379 --> 00:09:44.009 We had a camping trip from hell a couple weeks ago. 211 00:09:44.029 --> 00:09:48.149 A lot of rain and toddlers. Yeah, that made me 212 00:09:48.330 --> 00:09:50.210 not feel so outdoorsy. 213 00:09:50.570 --> 00:09:52.409 Oh my god, we've been recovering ever since. 214 00:09:52.830 --> 00:09:55.789 Morgan's father, Matt, remarried a woman named Leah, who had 215 00:09:55.850 --> 00:10:00.490 two sons from a previous relationship. Morgan's stepbrothers, Jaden and Tristan, 216 00:10:00.629 --> 00:10:05.049 and her mother then had a son named Mason. So 217 00:10:05.100 --> 00:10:08.480 she's kind of got like this big blended family, if 218 00:10:08.500 --> 00:10:11.919 you will. And Morgan is the second oldest of these five, 219 00:10:12.500 --> 00:10:16.320 like half siblings, step siblings in this big family. 220 00:10:16.340 --> 00:10:16.600 Okay. 221 00:10:16.620 --> 00:10:17.019 Okay. 222 00:10:18.009 --> 00:10:21.090 Morgan was known as a dramatic young woman who enjoyed 223 00:10:21.190 --> 00:10:24.490 singing and dancing. She was described as caring and would 224 00:10:24.509 --> 00:10:27.379 do anything for the people she loved. Morgan was also 225 00:10:27.549 --> 00:10:33.019 outspoken even when it got her into trouble. I think 226 00:10:33.059 --> 00:10:34.039 we can relate to that. 227 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:39.750 Well, yeah, and you can't help that if you're prone 228 00:10:39.820 --> 00:10:42.840 to uh outbursts and that's it's just who you are 229 00:10:42.899 --> 00:10:44.320 right you can't control. 230 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:46.960 It i wouldn't say maybe outbursts but i think you 231 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.460 and i are both people who have a really hard 232 00:10:49.539 --> 00:10:53.559 time biting our tongues in certain situations even if it 233 00:10:53.620 --> 00:10:56.740 gets us in trouble we speak our mind. 234 00:10:57.779 --> 00:11:00.059 And i'm sure people have noticed on the pod we 235 00:11:00.100 --> 00:11:04.960 both have trouble waiting our turn yes to speak we 236 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:08.970 sure do and that is you know i've Many times 237 00:11:09.009 --> 00:11:11.269 I've had to apologize to people like, I'm so sorry 238 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:15.580 for interrupting you. It's not like I'm discounting you or 239 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.240 don't care what you have to say. It's like I 240 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.399 have to spit it out before I forget what I'm 241 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:23.740 going to say or my brain moves on to something else. 242 00:11:24.059 --> 00:11:27.019 It's very strange. I catch myself doing it. I really 243 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:28.879 work on trying not to do that. 244 00:11:29.779 --> 00:11:31.179 Well, you're doing a great job, Dylan. 245 00:11:31.460 --> 00:11:32.080 Oh, thank you. 246 00:11:32.100 --> 00:11:35.580 I'm very supportive of this. I'm trying to be more. 247 00:11:36.940 --> 00:11:37.259 Quiet. 248 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:40.879 Oh, so you're very supportive of me shutting up. 249 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:44.610 Yes. Now, Leah admitted that the pair sometimes had a 250 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:49.789 rocky relationship, you know, stepmom, stepdaughter. But she said overall 251 00:11:49.870 --> 00:11:53.529 Morgan really loved her step-siblings and her family, and they 252 00:11:53.570 --> 00:11:56.370 had these really wonderful moments together. And I think that's 253 00:11:56.450 --> 00:12:01.730 true of all families, right? Most families have wonderful moments together, 254 00:12:02.629 --> 00:12:03.950 but you don't always get along. 255 00:12:04.570 --> 00:12:06.210 Well, yeah, that's just part of it. I think that's 256 00:12:06.230 --> 00:12:07.110 just normal, right? 257 00:12:07.620 --> 00:12:10.059 All of that sounds, like I said, very normal, kind 258 00:12:10.100 --> 00:12:12.639 of these normal struggles, especially when you do have a 259 00:12:12.700 --> 00:12:20.169 blended family that includes step-parents, step-siblings, half-siblings. Yeah. Can get 260 00:12:20.210 --> 00:12:22.470 a little chaotic sometimes. 261 00:12:22.690 --> 00:12:23.049 Well, no. 262 00:12:23.070 --> 00:12:24.210 With big families. 263 00:12:25.549 --> 00:12:29.409 In those moments, you may get mad at each other. 264 00:12:29.450 --> 00:12:32.029 If you're kids, you may be like, I hate you. 265 00:12:32.470 --> 00:12:34.389 But you don't really mean that. At the end of 266 00:12:34.429 --> 00:12:37.879 the day, you love each other. And that's what always 267 00:12:37.940 --> 00:12:38.740 comes out on top. 268 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.220 Aw, love wins, Dylan. 269 00:12:41.259 --> 00:12:42.039 Love does win. 270 00:12:42.299 --> 00:12:46.029 All the time. Now, Morgan attended Aberdeen Central High School, 271 00:12:46.210 --> 00:12:49.769 and she had a long-term boyfriend during this time. She 272 00:12:49.809 --> 00:12:55.559 graduated in 2014. And right after graduation, Morgan and her 273 00:12:55.620 --> 00:12:57.340 high school sweetheart broke up. 274 00:12:58.240 --> 00:12:58.480 Aw. Aw. 275 00:12:59.029 --> 00:13:01.990 Having grown up in this small town, Morgan was eager 276 00:13:02.090 --> 00:13:05.129 to get out into the world and experience life beyond 277 00:13:05.230 --> 00:13:09.629 South Dakota, and ending this long-term relationship kind of served 278 00:13:09.750 --> 00:13:14.649 as a catalyst. Morgan, now unattached, wants to make a 279 00:13:14.809 --> 00:13:16.809 fresh start somewhere new. 280 00:13:18.529 --> 00:13:20.519 Now, do you think maybe in the back of her 281 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.460 mind that she kind of knew that this is what 282 00:13:23.500 --> 00:13:26.299 she wanted, and maybe that's what kind of helped this 283 00:13:26.379 --> 00:13:28.519 relationship end, if you will? 284 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.860 Could be. Who knows when it comes to matters of 285 00:13:32.899 --> 00:13:33.820 the heart, Dylan. 286 00:13:33.860 --> 00:13:34.600 Yeah, that's true. 287 00:13:35.059 --> 00:13:36.740 But I think a lot of young people feel that way, 288 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:39.679 especially if you grow up in a really small town, 289 00:13:39.700 --> 00:13:42.779 a rural area. A lot of us were just itching 290 00:13:42.860 --> 00:13:46.659 to get out of that town to see more of 291 00:13:46.740 --> 00:13:49.659 the world, to experience city living. 292 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:52.970 Well, yeah. I mean, it's fun and exciting to go 293 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:57.750 somewhere that's completely different from where you grew up at, 294 00:13:57.830 --> 00:13:58.029 you know? 295 00:14:00.450 --> 00:14:02.809 Well, you did a lot of traveling and moving around 296 00:14:02.889 --> 00:14:05.730 as a kid, so I imagine maybe not as exciting 297 00:14:05.769 --> 00:14:08.090 for someone like you. But for those of us who 298 00:14:08.129 --> 00:14:14.100 lived in the same town from birth until graduating from 299 00:14:14.139 --> 00:14:18.559 high school, same town, same people, same routine. 300 00:14:18.580 --> 00:14:21.470 Yeah, I could see that getting maybe a little bit old. 301 00:14:21.830 --> 00:14:22.110 Yeah. 302 00:14:22.570 --> 00:14:26.070 But then I think as you age, you can appreciate. Yeah, 303 00:14:26.090 --> 00:14:27.409 because then. 304 00:14:27.309 --> 00:14:31.669 A lot of folks return home, want to live back 305 00:14:31.710 --> 00:14:34.700 in that small hometown. But anyway, in an interview, Sherry 306 00:14:34.740 --> 00:14:37.539 said that her daughter, quote, wanted to be her own person. 307 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:41.480 Morgan craved moving to a big city to find herself, 308 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.990 and for some reason, Morgan set her sights on Atlanta, Georgia. 309 00:14:47.169 --> 00:14:51.549 Sherry had reservations about her daughter leaving home. Atlanta is 310 00:14:52.350 --> 00:14:54.809 pretty far away from South Dakota. 311 00:14:55.179 --> 00:14:58.350 Yeah, I was going to say, that must be, gosh, 312 00:14:58.830 --> 00:14:59.909 a thousand miles or so. 313 00:14:59.990 --> 00:15:02.909 Yeah, and probably a bit of a culture shock because, 314 00:15:02.929 --> 00:15:05.889 I mean, we've been to Atlanta. It is a, you know, 315 00:15:06.129 --> 00:15:11.960 a metropolitan city. And I'm imagining South Dakota, probably not 316 00:15:12.059 --> 00:15:12.779 so bustling. 317 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:13.440 No. 318 00:15:13.820 --> 00:15:20.259 Right? Morgan's young and her mom is uncomfortable with this because, 319 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:23.360 you know, Morgan hasn't really lived on her own before, 320 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:27.070 away from family. Right. And I think initially as a parent, 321 00:15:27.090 --> 00:15:30.700 you know, when your kids want to move out, we 322 00:15:30.740 --> 00:15:33.879 all probably have those reservations about them living on their own. 323 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:38.200 But especially moving to like a big city so far away, 324 00:15:39.299 --> 00:15:40.299 you'd be very worried. 325 00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:42.539 Well, yeah, I think you would hope that they would 326 00:15:42.580 --> 00:15:45.879 do it and maybe on a smaller scale, you know, 327 00:15:45.940 --> 00:15:49.039 just somewhere in town or a few blocks from you 328 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:51.610 or not five minutes from your house where, If they 329 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:54.389 need you or you need to check on them, you 330 00:15:54.409 --> 00:15:55.389 can do it very easily. 331 00:15:55.769 --> 00:15:59.330 Morgan would be moving from a city with 28,000 residents 332 00:15:59.509 --> 00:16:03.330 to Atlanta, which has half a million residents. And if 333 00:16:03.350 --> 00:16:06.970 you look at the Atlanta metropolitan area, they're around 6.5 334 00:16:06.970 --> 00:16:10.549 million residents, making it the sixth largest metro area in 335 00:16:10.570 --> 00:16:11.470 the United States. 336 00:16:11.649 --> 00:16:12.029 Damn. 337 00:16:12.090 --> 00:16:15.529 Now that, again, is quite a change. 28,000 to an 338 00:16:15.580 --> 00:16:17.340 area where 6.5 million people are. 339 00:16:20.450 --> 00:16:25.379 Yeah, and Atlanta's spread out. It's a very large area, right? 340 00:16:26.139 --> 00:16:28.919 Yeah, it's one of those cities, it's not very, I 341 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:31.820 don't feel like it's a very walkable city. I mean, like, 342 00:16:31.860 --> 00:16:33.200 unless you're downtown. 343 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:33.820 Right. 344 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.549 Or you're, like, in these little pocket neighborhoods. It's definitely 345 00:16:37.570 --> 00:16:40.429 a place I think you would need a vehicle, like 346 00:16:40.450 --> 00:16:42.690 a car, to get around. You know, it's not, like, 347 00:16:42.730 --> 00:16:46.070 a super walkable city like New York, for example. Now, 348 00:16:46.129 --> 00:16:48.429 Sherry didn't want her daughter to go to Atlanta because, 349 00:16:48.899 --> 00:16:52.340 It was really worrying her mom, and she was uneasy 350 00:16:52.419 --> 00:16:57.360 about the situation. Morgan, however, was stubborn. She was the 351 00:16:57.379 --> 00:16:59.669 kind of young woman who set her mind to do something, 352 00:16:59.750 --> 00:17:02.169 and then there wasn't much you could do to stop her. 353 00:17:03.610 --> 00:17:06.250 We probably all know someone like this. 354 00:17:06.849 --> 00:17:07.869 I know someone like that. 355 00:17:08.930 --> 00:17:09.910 Why are you staring at me? 356 00:17:11.299 --> 00:17:12.319 I'm married to her. 357 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:16.640 I'm a Taurus, okay? I'm supposed to be. The stars 358 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:18.319 tell me I'm supposed to be stubborn. 359 00:17:18.829 --> 00:17:22.720 Right. And that means you're a comfortable sedan from the 90s. 360 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:23.180 Yes. 361 00:17:23.700 --> 00:17:25.220 Right. That's what I thought that meant. 362 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:29.119 Yeah. Your main model likes to drive it down the road. Now, 363 00:17:29.180 --> 00:17:32.359 at this time, Sherry and Morgan were experiencing a rough patch, 364 00:17:32.500 --> 00:17:36.000 you know, growing pains in their relationship. Morgan was still 365 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:39.109 living at home after graduating from high school. She felt 366 00:17:39.170 --> 00:17:41.450 she was an adult and wanted the freedom to kind 367 00:17:41.470 --> 00:17:44.069 of come and go as she pleased. but her mother 368 00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:47.849 saw it differently. Morgan was still under Sherry's roof, and 369 00:17:47.890 --> 00:17:50.670 though legally an adult, Sherry didn't agree with some of 370 00:17:50.710 --> 00:17:55.309 the lifestyle choices Morgan had made, and it's unclear exactly what, 371 00:17:56.349 --> 00:17:58.839 you know, Sherry was, she was kind of worried about 372 00:17:58.890 --> 00:18:03.839 Morgan's safety, but it really created this strain on their relationship, 373 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.819 and I'm not exactly sure, like, if there was a 374 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:11.359 particular thing that had happened, or what kinds of things 375 00:18:11.420 --> 00:18:16.380 Morgan was into, I did read an interview where her 376 00:18:16.450 --> 00:18:18.779 mom was saying she was partying, so I don't know 377 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.440 if that was just maybe alcohol, drugs, I don't know. 378 00:18:22.779 --> 00:18:25.619 But her mom's worried. She doesn't really like some of 379 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:26.779 the things Morgan is doing. 380 00:18:29.099 --> 00:18:32.500 Well, that's just going to add to their concern if 381 00:18:32.539 --> 00:18:35.640 she moves away to another city, another region. 382 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:39.279 Yeah, and you know, I don't think that's totally abnormal. 383 00:18:39.420 --> 00:18:42.950 I think a lot of parents, when you get to 384 00:18:43.150 --> 00:18:45.690 that age of independence and you're living at home, a 385 00:18:45.750 --> 00:18:48.970 lot of parents feel like you're under my roof. You 386 00:18:49.049 --> 00:18:52.440 still follow my rules, but you're a young adult and 387 00:18:52.460 --> 00:18:54.920 you're like, bro, I'm a legal adult. I could go 388 00:18:54.940 --> 00:18:59.119 get married. I could join the military. I'm an adult. 389 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:00.440 I can buy alcohol. 390 00:19:00.579 --> 00:19:02.079 Well, you can't really do that yet, but. 391 00:19:02.220 --> 00:19:02.720 Oh, well, yeah. 392 00:19:03.509 --> 00:19:07.069 But you end up kind of like butting heads, right? 393 00:19:08.069 --> 00:19:10.509 And eventually Morgan left home and moved out to live 394 00:19:10.529 --> 00:19:13.930 with some friends and Sadly, there was little contact between 395 00:19:13.990 --> 00:19:17.559 Morgan and her mom after that. Sherry maintains their issues 396 00:19:17.619 --> 00:19:20.940 were normal for a lot of families, but it has 397 00:19:20.980 --> 00:19:25.380 been said that Morgan was struggling. Morgan accumulated tickets and 398 00:19:25.420 --> 00:19:28.279 was eventually locked up for failing to take care of them. 399 00:19:28.299 --> 00:19:30.079 Like parking? 400 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:34.460 Like traffic and parking tickets. Sherry had to go bail 401 00:19:34.500 --> 00:19:39.450