Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Ashley, a true crime fanatic.
Speaker 2: I'm Dan, and I don't know anything about true crime.
Speaker 1: Together, we host Fuck That, a true crime podcast that
Speaker 1: covers cases that highlight important topics that are often overlooked,
Speaker 1: such as wrongful convictions, and the like. domestic violence, and
Speaker 1: social inequities sprinkled in with the occasional case with spooky themes.
Speaker 1: If you are looking for your next true crime fix
Speaker 1: delivered candidly with a hint of sarcasm, you can listen
Speaker 1: and subscribe to bi-weekly episodes of Fuck That wherever you
Speaker 1: listen to your podcasts. And don't forget to give us
Speaker 1: a follow on Facebook and Twitter at fthatpod and at
Speaker 1: fthat underscore pod on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Hey y'all, welcome back to Mountain Murders. I'm Heather.
Speaker 2: And I'm Dylan.
Speaker 3: Hey Dylan, how's it going?
Speaker 2: What's up girl, how you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm doing very well. I had an amazing evening last night.
Speaker 3: I took my son to his first big concert. And now, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna preface this by saying, last year we tried
Speaker 3: to take him to see Limp Bizkit and we got
Speaker 3: rained out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were supposed to see Corey.
Speaker 3: Corey Feldman.
Speaker 2: The Corey Feldman Band and Limp Bizkit.
Speaker 3: Corey and the Angels.
Speaker 2: And the only act we saw was a no-name guy
Speaker 2: no one's ever heard of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we got rained out. So it was really disappointing.
Speaker 3: I was able to take my son to see Rob
Speaker 3: Zombie and Marilyn Manson last night. Now, I've seen Zombie
Speaker 3: like many times. Probably five, six times.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: Right? But I've never seen Marilyn Manson. And I gotta say, Dylan,
Speaker 3: I was impressed. He sounds great live. I really didn't think,
Speaker 3: you know, when you hear Manson's music, I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know how that's going to translate to a
Speaker 3: live show. But he killed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even from the videos you shared with me,
Speaker 2: it sounded really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. And I'm not saying I've always
Speaker 3: been like the biggest Manson fan. I do like Marilyn Manson.
Speaker 3: I know he's a bit of a controversial figure for some.
Speaker 3: But I thought he was amazing last night.
Speaker 2: He has been throughout the years, various issues, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, there were some protesters there.
Speaker 2: Outside?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Some like Jesus protesters. And here's the thing, Dylan.
Speaker 3: I am fully supportive of y'all's freedom to practice whatever
Speaker 3: religion you feel, right? And you can show up at
Speaker 3: a show and protest if you'd like, but it's just
Speaker 3: the way in which they do it. Like these signs
Speaker 3: basically telling you like you're going to hell and you're
Speaker 3: a piece of shit if you listen to this music.
Speaker 3: This guy was screaming at us like, you can't love
Speaker 3: Jesus and listen to this music. And it's like screaming
Speaker 3: at people. And it's like, sir, this is not going
Speaker 3: to bring people to your message.
Speaker 2: No, it's counterproductive.
Speaker 3: It's very counterproductive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went to a few concerts together. And the
Speaker 2: only one I saw remember protests at was the Billy Otto.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: The aging Billy Otto crowd in concert. Which was hilarious
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: There was also someone ripping out pages of a Bible
Speaker 3: and throwing them at people. So they're... So I'm not
Speaker 3: really sure what that was about either, but again..
Speaker 2: They're defacing a Bible to protest their religion.
Speaker 3: It does not seem that you are going to bring
Speaker 3: people to your side of the aisle when you're being
Speaker 3: very hateful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 3: And saying very vile things to people. because you don't
Speaker 3: like their secular music choices.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Very strange, but we had a great time. I'm feeling pumped.
Speaker 3: I'm ready for more concerts, Dylan.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. I will sing to you.
Speaker 3: So, speaking of concerts, don't forget, fall is just around
Speaker 3: the corner, Dylan. And you know how much a bitch
Speaker 3: loves fall.
Speaker 2: God, I love fall, too. You know why I love fall?
Speaker 2: Because I get my hoodies out.
Speaker 3: You love hoodie season.
Speaker 2: I love hoodie season because it's comfortable, right? It's comfortable.
Speaker 2: I'm at the point in my health journey where I
Speaker 2: actually look semi-good in a hoodie. Way better than I
Speaker 2: do a t-shirt. Hides my fat I have left. And
Speaker 2: I'm just going to wear a hoodie all the time.
Speaker 3: I love that you have like a dressy hoodie and
Speaker 3: then like a casual hoodie.
Speaker 2: That's right. That's my going out hoodie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got going out hoodies.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's real fancy.
Speaker 2: You better believe it. And it's so easy, right? You
Speaker 2: just throw your T-shirt on. Boom. Hoodie, jeans, tinnies.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You're ready to ride.
Speaker 3: You're like, this is my $ 75 Black Craft hoodie.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: It's fancy. It's a fancy hoodie. Yeah, so I wanted
Speaker 3: to mention Fall Around the Corner. Fuck yeah, it's Fall Fest.
Speaker 3: It's a rock show. It's a night market. It's going
Speaker 3: to be fucking rad.
Speaker 2: I can't believe we got invited to this, and I
Speaker 2: cannot wait to go. It's going to be such a
Speaker 2: good time.
Speaker 3: If you are in and around Asheville, North Carolina, or
Speaker 3: you're looking for a fun road trip, make your way
Speaker 3: to Asheville September 25th. That is a Friday. Show starts
Speaker 3: at 5. This is at the Sly Grog Lounge in
Speaker 3: downtown Asheville at 271 Haywood Street, Asheville. The Sly Grog
Speaker 3: is a fucking rad, super cool venue. We haven't been
Speaker 3: there in a minute, and I'm stoked that we are
Speaker 3: going to go to the Sly Grog. When I was
Speaker 3: doing burlesque shows, this was one of our kind of
Speaker 3: a rotation spot. We did a lot of shows at
Speaker 3: the Grog. Just a really cool venue, like I said.
Speaker 3: Punk bands all evening long.
Speaker 2: Man, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: And like a spooky market. Some of the artists that
Speaker 3: are going to be there, I'm very excited about, like
Speaker 3: Haints and Hollers Apothecary. That makes me happy. The Nomadic
Speaker 3: Owl Oracle.
Speaker 2: Those sound awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Rome Coffee and Bakery. We've got Nathan King live painting.
Speaker 2: That sounds so cool.
Speaker 3: So it starts at 5 p.m. And guess what? Tickets
Speaker 3: are only $ 10.
Speaker 2: And it's even a great deal.
Speaker 3: You have like a WWE cat wrestling match happening right
Speaker 3: by your chair.
Speaker 2: Break it up.
Speaker 3: Is it distracting? No. I can tell.
Speaker 2: It's not bothering me a bit.
Speaker 3: You're feeling a bit distracted.
Speaker 2: Break it up, boys. All right. So here we are.
Speaker 2: Cannot wait for the Fuck Y'all Fall Festival. Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2: So many good things coming down the pike. It's almost Halloween. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: We're going to have crisp, cool evenings. Like I said,
Speaker 2: hoodie weather. Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 3: It's a great time to gather around the fire pit.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Listen to Mountain Murders.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 3: It's a great time for Mountain Murders. And if you're
Speaker 3: looking for a new hoodie, check out our merch shop.
Speaker 3: If you go to our website, mountainmurderspodcast.com, you'll be able
Speaker 3: to shop our merch. Find yourself a hoodie for fall.
Speaker 2: You can.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can join me in the hoodie army.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Let them know. Let them know loud and proud,
Speaker 3: you Mountain Murders fans.
Speaker 2: Be like, what set you repping, homie?
Speaker 3: I'm repping the Mount Murders. All right, Dylan, are you
Speaker 3: ready to get into today's case? This is a case
Speaker 3: I followed for many years. I wanted to discuss this
Speaker 3: case on Mount Murders. We're finally getting around to it
Speaker 3: and just in time to have closure in the case
Speaker 3: because it started as a missing persons case and ended tragically.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Let's get into it.
Speaker 2: Let's start.
Speaker 3: Morgan Bauer was born on April 13th, 1996 in Vermillion,
Speaker 3: South Dakota. Now Vermillion is in the southeastern corner of
Speaker 3: South Dakota between Iowa and Nebraska. Morgan's mother, Sherry, had
Speaker 3: a daughter, Alyssa, from a previous relationship. And Morgan's parents
Speaker 3: did not stay together and eventually separated. Afterward, Morgan lived
Speaker 3: in Tennessee for a little bit. Morgan and her mother
Speaker 3: ultimately settled in Aberdeen, which is in the northeastern part
Speaker 3: of South Dakota, almost as far north as North Dakota.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to the Dakotas?
Speaker 3: I have never been to the Dakotas. I would love
Speaker 3: to go. My dad was a truck driver. I mentioned
Speaker 3: that before on the show. And the Dakotas, that was
Speaker 3: like one of his favorite places.
Speaker 2: Oh, really?
Speaker 3: To deliver, to travel. He said it was beautiful.
Speaker 2: I want to go see the Badlands.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Just the name alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Makes me want to go.
Speaker 2: I know, it's awesome. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: I haven't been to certain parts of the Midwest and
Speaker 3: then the Pacific Northwest. One day, I've been all over
Speaker 3: the United States, but one day we're going to take
Speaker 3: a road trip and we're going to see some of
Speaker 3: these spots.
Speaker 2: I would like to fly out to the Pacific Northwest
Speaker 2: and drive.
Speaker 3: To the Pacific?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: To a specific spot in the Northwest or just.
Speaker 2: And rent a car and just. Check out the coastline
Speaker 2: and a bunch of these, you know, places I've always
Speaker 2: heard of but never seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. If we were headed up the Oregon coast,
Speaker 3: perhaps we could stop off and see CJ, host of
Speaker 3: Rainbow Crimes.
Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
Speaker 3: Dark Cast Network.
Speaker 2: That would be awesome.
Speaker 3: CJ be living in the Oregon area, and I've always
Speaker 3: wanted to visit. It looks absolutely gorgeous. Especially if you're
Speaker 3: an outdoors enthusiast, which I kind of am. Unless there
Speaker 3: are bugs involved or snakes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes we're indoor enthusiasts. Enthusiasts.
Speaker 3: We had a camping trip from hell a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 3: A lot of rain and toddlers. Yeah, that made me
Speaker 3: not feel so outdoorsy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we've been recovering ever since.
Speaker 3: Morgan's father, Matt, remarried a woman named Leah, who had
Speaker 3: two sons from a previous relationship. Morgan's stepbrothers, Jaden and Tristan,
Speaker 3: and her mother then had a son named Mason. So
Speaker 3: she's kind of got like this big blended family, if
Speaker 3: you will. And Morgan is the second oldest of these five,
Speaker 3: like half siblings, step siblings in this big family.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Morgan was known as a dramatic young woman who enjoyed
Speaker 3: singing and dancing. She was described as caring and would
Speaker 3: do anything for the people she loved. Morgan was also
Speaker 3: outspoken even when it got her into trouble. I think
Speaker 3: we can relate to that.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you can't help that if you're prone
Speaker 2: to uh outbursts and that's it's just who you are
Speaker 2: right you can't control.
Speaker 3: It i wouldn't say maybe outbursts but i think you
Speaker 3: and i are both people who have a really hard
Speaker 3: time biting our tongues in certain situations even if it
Speaker 3: gets us in trouble we speak our mind.
Speaker 2: And i'm sure people have noticed on the pod we
Speaker 2: both have trouble waiting our turn yes to speak we
Speaker 2: sure do and that is you know i've Many times
Speaker 2: I've had to apologize to people like, I'm so sorry
Speaker 2: for interrupting you. It's not like I'm discounting you or
Speaker 2: don't care what you have to say. It's like I
Speaker 2: have to spit it out before I forget what I'm
Speaker 2: going to say or my brain moves on to something else.
Speaker 2: It's very strange. I catch myself doing it. I really
Speaker 2: work on trying not to do that.
Speaker 3: Well, you're doing a great job, Dylan.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm very supportive of this. I'm trying to be more.
Speaker 1: Quiet.
Speaker 2: Oh, so you're very supportive of me shutting up.
Speaker 3: Yes. Now, Leah admitted that the pair sometimes had a
Speaker 3: rocky relationship, you know, stepmom, stepdaughter. But she said overall
Speaker 3: Morgan really loved her step-siblings and her family, and they
Speaker 3: had these really wonderful moments together. And I think that's
Speaker 3: true of all families, right? Most families have wonderful moments together,
Speaker 3: but you don't always get along.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's just part of it. I think that's
Speaker 2: just normal, right?
Speaker 3: All of that sounds, like I said, very normal, kind
Speaker 3: of these normal struggles, especially when you do have a
Speaker 3: blended family that includes step-parents, step-siblings, half-siblings. Yeah. Can get
Speaker 3: a little chaotic sometimes.
Speaker 2: Well, no.
Speaker 3: With big families.
Speaker 2: In those moments, you may get mad at each other.
Speaker 2: If you're kids, you may be like, I hate you.
Speaker 2: But you don't really mean that. At the end of
Speaker 2: the day, you love each other. And that's what always
Speaker 2: comes out on top.
Speaker 3: Aw, love wins, Dylan.
Speaker 2: Love does win.
Speaker 3: All the time. Now, Morgan attended Aberdeen Central High School,
Speaker 3: and she had a long-term boyfriend during this time. She
Speaker 3: graduated in 2014. And right after graduation, Morgan and her
Speaker 3: high school sweetheart broke up.
Speaker 2: Aw. Aw.
Speaker 3: Having grown up in this small town, Morgan was eager
Speaker 3: to get out into the world and experience life beyond
Speaker 3: South Dakota, and ending this long-term relationship kind of served
Speaker 3: as a catalyst. Morgan, now unattached, wants to make a
Speaker 3: fresh start somewhere new.
Speaker 2: Now, do you think maybe in the back of her
Speaker 2: mind that she kind of knew that this is what
Speaker 2: she wanted, and maybe that's what kind of helped this
Speaker 2: relationship end, if you will?
Speaker 3: Could be. Who knows when it comes to matters of
Speaker 3: the heart, Dylan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: But I think a lot of young people feel that way,
Speaker 3: especially if you grow up in a really small town,
Speaker 3: a rural area. A lot of us were just itching
Speaker 3: to get out of that town to see more of
Speaker 3: the world, to experience city living.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah. I mean, it's fun and exciting to go
Speaker 2: somewhere that's completely different from where you grew up at,
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 3: Well, you did a lot of traveling and moving around
Speaker 3: as a kid, so I imagine maybe not as exciting
Speaker 3: for someone like you. But for those of us who
Speaker 3: lived in the same town from birth until graduating from
Speaker 3: high school, same town, same people, same routine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that getting maybe a little bit old.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But then I think as you age, you can appreciate. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because then.
Speaker 3: A lot of folks return home, want to live back
Speaker 3: in that small hometown. But anyway, in an interview, Sherry
Speaker 3: said that her daughter, quote, wanted to be her own person.
Speaker 3: Morgan craved moving to a big city to find herself,
Speaker 3: and for some reason, Morgan set her sights on Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 3: Sherry had reservations about her daughter leaving home. Atlanta is
Speaker 3: pretty far away from South Dakota.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, that must be, gosh,
Speaker 2: a thousand miles or so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and probably a bit of a culture shock because,
Speaker 3: I mean, we've been to Atlanta. It is a, you know,
Speaker 3: a metropolitan city. And I'm imagining South Dakota, probably not
Speaker 3: so bustling.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Right? Morgan's young and her mom is uncomfortable with this because,
Speaker 3: you know, Morgan hasn't really lived on her own before,
Speaker 3: away from family. Right. And I think initially as a parent,
Speaker 3: you know, when your kids want to move out, we
Speaker 3: all probably have those reservations about them living on their own.
Speaker 3: But especially moving to like a big city so far away,
Speaker 3: you'd be very worried.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think you would hope that they would
Speaker 2: do it and maybe on a smaller scale, you know,
Speaker 2: just somewhere in town or a few blocks from you
Speaker 2: or not five minutes from your house where, If they
Speaker 2: need you or you need to check on them, you
Speaker 2: can do it very easily.
Speaker 3: Morgan would be moving from a city with 28,000 residents
Speaker 3: to Atlanta, which has half a million residents. And if
Speaker 3: you look at the Atlanta metropolitan area, they're around 6.5
Speaker 3: million residents, making it the sixth largest metro area in
Speaker 3: the United States.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 3: Now that, again, is quite a change. 28,000 to an
Speaker 3: area where 6.5 million people are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Atlanta's spread out. It's a very large area, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those cities, it's not very, I
Speaker 3: don't feel like it's a very walkable city. I mean, like,
Speaker 3: unless you're downtown.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Or you're, like, in these little pocket neighborhoods. It's definitely
Speaker 3: a place I think you would need a vehicle, like
Speaker 3: a car, to get around. You know, it's not, like,
Speaker 3: a super walkable city like New York, for example. Now,
Speaker 3: Sherry didn't want her daughter to go to Atlanta because,
Speaker 3: It was really worrying her mom, and she was uneasy
Speaker 3: about the situation. Morgan, however, was stubborn. She was the
Speaker 3: kind of young woman who set her mind to do something,
Speaker 3: and then there wasn't much you could do to stop her.
Speaker 3: We probably all know someone like this.
Speaker 2: I know someone like that.
Speaker 3: Why are you staring at me?
Speaker 2: I'm married to her.
Speaker 3: I'm a Taurus, okay? I'm supposed to be. The stars
Speaker 3: tell me I'm supposed to be stubborn.
Speaker 2: Right. And that means you're a comfortable sedan from the 90s.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Right. That's what I thought that meant.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Your main model likes to drive it down the road. Now,
Speaker 3: at this time, Sherry and Morgan were experiencing a rough patch,
Speaker 3: you know, growing pains in their relationship. Morgan was still
Speaker 3: living at home after graduating from high school. She felt
Speaker 3: she was an adult and wanted the freedom to kind
Speaker 3: of come and go as she pleased. but her mother
Speaker 3: saw it differently. Morgan was still under Sherry's roof, and
Speaker 3: though legally an adult, Sherry didn't agree with some of
Speaker 3: the lifestyle choices Morgan had made, and it's unclear exactly what,
Speaker 3: you know, Sherry was, she was kind of worried about
Speaker 3: Morgan's safety, but it really created this strain on their relationship,
Speaker 3: and I'm not exactly sure, like, if there was a
Speaker 3: particular thing that had happened, or what kinds of things
Speaker 3: Morgan was into, I did read an interview where her
Speaker 3: mom was saying she was partying, so I don't know
Speaker 3: if that was just maybe alcohol, drugs, I don't know.
Speaker 3: But her mom's worried. She doesn't really like some of
Speaker 3: the things Morgan is doing.
Speaker 2: Well, that's just going to add to their concern if
Speaker 2: she moves away to another city, another region.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I don't think that's totally abnormal.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of parents, when you get to
Speaker 3: that age of independence and you're living at home, a
Speaker 3: lot of parents feel like you're under my roof. You
Speaker 3: still follow my rules, but you're a young adult and
Speaker 3: you're like, bro, I'm a legal adult. I could go
Speaker 3: get married. I could join the military. I'm an adult.
Speaker 2: I can buy alcohol.
Speaker 3: Well, you can't really do that yet, but.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, yeah.
Speaker 3: But you end up kind of like butting heads, right?
Speaker 3: And eventually Morgan left home and moved out to live
Speaker 3: with some friends and Sadly, there was little contact between
Speaker 3: Morgan and her mom after that. Sherry maintains their issues
Speaker 3: were normal for a lot of families, but it has
Speaker 3: been said that Morgan was struggling. Morgan accumulated tickets and
Speaker 3: was eventually locked up for failing to take care of them.
Speaker 2: Like parking?
Speaker 3: Like traffic and parking tickets. Sherry had to go bail
Speaker 3: her out of jail. Morgan was experiencing financial hardships as well.
Speaker 3: Kind of learning that life as an adult is pretty
Speaker 3: difficult and it's rife with responsibilities. I mean, we all
Speaker 3: know adulting is no fun.
Speaker 2: No, it sucks.
Speaker 3: Like, these kids are so... eager to get out and
Speaker 3: about but it's like bro you don't even know how
Speaker 3: bad it sucks you have to pay car insurance.
Speaker 2: I want an app that adults for me wouldn't that
Speaker 2: be sweet.
Speaker 3: I adult for you what are you talking.
Speaker 2: About well y'all know I am the adult but I
Speaker 2: want you to have the app as well So you
Speaker 2: don't have to adult for both of us. Because I
Speaker 2: think together, I've said this before, me and you together
Speaker 2: are about two-thirds of a functional person.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Almost there.
Speaker 3: Almost. We're a work in progress.
Speaker 2: Maybe if we add Rufus in, it puts us over
Speaker 2: the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, Morgan, he's more financially responsible than we are.
Speaker 2: He really is.
Speaker 3: Now, Morgan needed copies of her birth certificate and social
Speaker 3: security card for employment to And she needed those things
Speaker 3: to be able to find a job in Atlanta. And
Speaker 3: because Sherry, like most parents held onto these items, Sherry
Speaker 3: didn't want to hand them over to her daughter. And
Speaker 3: Sherry thought this way it would kind of keep the document.
Speaker 3: Like if she kept the documents, it would prevent Morgan
Speaker 3: from going to Atlanta. But Sherry also offered to like
Speaker 3: help her. Like, I'm not going to just give these
Speaker 3: to you, but we can go get your, these documents.
Speaker 3: Like you can go to the, you know, register of
Speaker 3: deeds and pick up your birth certificate and you can
Speaker 3: go to the Social Security office and you can go
Speaker 3: get an ID made. So she's really kind of putting
Speaker 3: the responsibility back on Morgan.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I guess she may be using it
Speaker 2: as a teachable moment, if you will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or like a little bit of leverage.
Speaker 2: But I strongly disagree with you withholding. That's their stuff.
Speaker 2: That's their Social Security card. That's their birth certificate. And
Speaker 2: I think when a young person turns 18 years old,
Speaker 2: they have every right to those documents. And you really,
Speaker 2: now you might, I understand, maybe give them a copy
Speaker 2: or hang it on to the original or something, whatever.
Speaker 2: But they should be accessible. It's their documents. And I've
Speaker 2: seen parents that will almost create an argument with their
Speaker 2: kids about things like Social Security cards and birth certificates.
Speaker 2: And it's their papers. They're not yours. You've been holding
Speaker 2: on to them for them until they became responsible. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just find it strange when people
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: Well, it is strange. I understand your point of view,
Speaker 3: but I also understand what Sherry's saying. Like, if you're
Speaker 3: such an adult that you can go move halfway across
Speaker 3: the country and live on your own, then you should
Speaker 3: be mature enough to go pick these documents up like
Speaker 3: a normal adult would.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Right? Now, Sherry's attempting to maintain, like, some kind of
Speaker 3: control over her adult daughter because she really does have
Speaker 3: Morgan's best interests at heart, even if maybe you disagree, Dylan. Again,
Speaker 3: Sherry worries about Morgan's safety, and Morgan has already shown
Speaker 3: that she's got, like, money problems. She's a bit irresponsible. Maybe,
Speaker 3: you know, living on her own with friends. in her
Speaker 3: hometown isn't quite working out. So what's it going to
Speaker 3: be like if she moves thousands of miles away?
Speaker 2: So she's got 99 problems and the birth certificate ain't one.
Speaker 3: Yes, that is one way to put it, Dylan. Morgan
Speaker 3: is 19 years old at this point. She wants her
Speaker 3: documentation and eventually goes to police for help. The officer
Speaker 3: involved supports Morgan's stance that she is an adult and
Speaker 3: that she's entitled to those documents. So Sherry relents and
Speaker 3: agrees to meet Morgan at a gas station to hand
Speaker 3: over this paperwork. Sherry adds a lucky penny for her daughter,
Speaker 3: like in with this paperwork. And he's like, you know, here,
Speaker 3: just keep this on you for good luck. Sherry asks
Speaker 3: Morgan to keep the penny in her pocket for safety purposes.
Speaker 3: Morgan is with a male friend and Sherry has no
Speaker 3: idea like who this guy is. But in the end,
Speaker 3: this is going to be her final encounter with her child.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And it's a bit contentious.
Speaker 3: And as they walk away, Sherry has no idea this
Speaker 3: is going to be the last time she sees her child.
Speaker 2: That's horrible.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: And you just never know, right?
Speaker 3: You never know. It's a really sad situation. Now Morgan
Speaker 3: asks Sherry for a ride to the Minneapolis airport, but
Speaker 3: Sherry declined to take Morgan. Morgan had saved no money
Speaker 3: to move to Atlanta. A friend ended up giving Morgan
Speaker 3: $ 20 again because she has no money.
Speaker 2: How in the world are you going to move hundreds
Speaker 2: of miles away to a place where you have no
Speaker 2: family or anything like that to support you with no
Speaker 2: kind of plan? So maybe mom's on the right track
Speaker 2: about this might not be that great of an idea.
Speaker 3: Well, I think Sherry was right to be concerned. Moving
Speaker 3: with no money, no support system, and no concrete plans
Speaker 3: creates several vulnerabilities at once. Right. Housing can fall apart quickly.
Speaker 3: To secure an apartment or a place to live, you know,
Speaker 3: you've got deposits, fees, utilities. You've got to pay for transportation, food,
Speaker 3: all of those unexpected expenses that are going to pop up.
Speaker 2: Not the incidentals.
Speaker 3: And there's no emergency cushion. And no local support means
Speaker 3: fewer escape routes. Also, financial desperation makes people much easier
Speaker 3: to exploit. So there are too many reasons that Morgan
Speaker 3: was maybe not in a great place to relocate. Morgan
Speaker 3: wants out of the small town so badly that she's
Speaker 3: willing to expedite this move without planning or thinking it through,
Speaker 3: which seems quite impulsive to me.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But as a 19-year-old, who isn't impulsive? Their little frontal
Speaker 3: brains aren't developed yet.
Speaker 2: Right. Right.
Speaker 3: Now, Morgan told her mother she would be moving to
Speaker 3: Atlanta with her girlfriends, the ones she had been living
Speaker 3: with before. Right. Morgan told her mom that her friends
Speaker 3: were driving to Atlanta with their belongings and furniture and
Speaker 3: that Morgan was going to meet them in Atlanta. And,
Speaker 3: you know, her mom was kind of like, well, if
Speaker 3: that's true, like, why aren't you riding with them? Why
Speaker 3: are you flying? And Morgan was like, well, you know,
Speaker 3: they've got a car full of our stuff. There's not
Speaker 3: room for me.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a plan that young people would come
Speaker 2: up with.
Speaker 3: It does it.
Speaker 2: To a degree.
Speaker 3: On February 11th of 2016, Morgan got a ride to
Speaker 3: the airport for this early morning flight the next day.
Speaker 3: Sherry would later learn that everything Morgan had been telling
Speaker 3: her about these Atlanta plans was a lie, Dylan.
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 3: It was a lie. What Morgan did not divulge was
Speaker 3: that in her desperation to move to Atlanta, she had
Speaker 3: communicated with a man on Craigslist who was offering free
Speaker 3: rooming in exchange for house cleaning. At least that's what
Speaker 3: he'd indicated.
Speaker 2: Clothes optional.
Speaker 3: Now, I've seen these types of ads on Craigslist, and
Speaker 3: they always sketch me out. Like, yeah, right. You probably
Speaker 3: want to wear my skin suit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I don't know. It may
Speaker 2: be fine, right? But I'm not going to find out.
Speaker 2: Because that would be way too, I don't know, it
Speaker 2: would be way too many unknowns.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You don't know if the people's cool or if they're weird.
Speaker 3: It's a complete stranger.
Speaker 2: Or dangerous.
Speaker 3: What they tell you is not necessarily the truth, right?
Speaker 3: And once they get you there, there's no telling what
Speaker 3: could happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what if they're gross? You've got to worry about
Speaker 2: their hygiene. Their hygiene plan or routine, rather?
Speaker 3: That's your biggest concern? My biggest concern is, like, they
Speaker 3: decapitate me and have sex with my dead body in
Speaker 3: the basement or something.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but what if at least they smell fresh
Speaker 2: when they do that? That would make that better, right?
Speaker 3: Well, if I'm decapitated, I probably don't care at that point.
Speaker 2: But even if they're normal and they want to hang...
Speaker 2: Here's what's even worse than having your head cut off.
Speaker 2: Say they're cool, they're normal, and they want to, like, just...
Speaker 2: in your business the whole time hanging out always around
Speaker 2: but they stink and you're just continually assaulted by their
Speaker 2: smell I can tell you've.
Speaker 3: Been working all night because yeah what that's an interesting
Speaker 3: point you're making Dylan yeah it's a unique take thank
Speaker 3: you you're always really concerned with.
Speaker 2: Smells yeah yeah I don't like.
Speaker 3: It your olfactory senses working overtime I.
Speaker 2: Don't like to smell people.
Speaker 3: No. No. Nobody wants to smell people.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to smell myself. Ew. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't want to smell you either.
Speaker 2: I'm not sniffing this.
Speaker 3: Now, with everything happening so fast and Morgan out of
Speaker 3: the area, many details are likely lost. But what we
Speaker 3: do know is that Morgan apparently spent the night at
Speaker 3: this man's house only to return later and find her
Speaker 3: belongings outside. Accompanied by notes stating that she was not
Speaker 3: allowed back. So the welcome mat has been rolled up.
Speaker 2: Just that quick?
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Maybe she wasn't a very good cleaner.
Speaker 3: I don't know. We don't really know what happened. So again,
Speaker 3: there's no telling what happened. Morgan did contact a few friends,
Speaker 3: but there wasn't much they could do for her.
Speaker 2: And..
Speaker 3: A lot of that information maybe what how she was
Speaker 3: feeling or or the situation like kind of uh maybe
Speaker 3: wasn't relayed in a timely fashion by her friends or
Speaker 3: they just didn't tell anyone so we we don't really
Speaker 3: know like if this man wanted a sexual relationship or
Speaker 3: if he asked Morgan to do something and like she
Speaker 3: didn't hold up her end of the bargain, like the
Speaker 3: cleaning or I don't know. It just shows why situations
Speaker 3: like this are not good.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Right. Just not. Morgan is in Atlanta now with no
Speaker 3: money and no place to stay. So she's scrambling to
Speaker 3: find a, somewhere to spend the night. Things are not
Speaker 3: working out. Details are murky, but it does seem like
Speaker 3: Morgan somehow managed to get a motel room for the night.
Speaker 3: The next two weeks were spent all over suburban Atlanta
Speaker 3: between motels and who knows where else. She did get
Speaker 3: a job at the now defunct exotic dance club, The
Speaker 3: Top of Gainesville, which is located in Gainesville, Georgia, about
Speaker 3: an hour outside of Atlanta.
Speaker 2: What a strange name for a gentleman's club.
Speaker 3: The Top of Gainesville.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Morgan posted excitedly on Facebook about the job. It's
Speaker 3: unclear how she would end up an hour outside of Atlanta,
Speaker 3: but there has been some speculation from law enforcement. Because
Speaker 3: it sounds like the strip clubs in Atlanta conduct thorough
Speaker 3: background checks and fingerprinting for new employees, and they require documentation.
Speaker 3: And that's understandable. I mean, these clubs don't want to
Speaker 3: hire underage dancers and human trafficking is a big problem
Speaker 3: in Atlanta. In many cases, victims of human trafficking, especially
Speaker 3: foreign women, end up in these strip clubs and in
Speaker 3: sex work. And Morgan didn't have the proper documentation and
Speaker 3: likely had no money for background checks and like whatever
Speaker 3: else it takes to secure employment there. Atlanta requires adult
Speaker 3: entertainers to obtain a permit or employee card through the
Speaker 3: Atlanta Police Department License and Permits Unit. Cities regulate adult
Speaker 3: entertainment establishments, so it's likely that Gainesville, this little suburb,
Speaker 3: did not require a dancing permit.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
Speaker 3: A performance permit.
Speaker 2: And we're keeping track of the dancers, aren't we?
Speaker 3: I need you to show me your exotic dancer card.
Speaker 2: I have one.
Speaker 3: I bet you do.
Speaker 2: It's inspired, though.
Speaker 3: As are all of your cards.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Morgan had maintained an active presence on social media, especially Facebook.
Speaker 3: When she arrived in Atlanta on February 12th, she was
Speaker 3: posting and interacting with friends, kind of business as usual.
Speaker 3: But by February 25th, Morgan had gone silent. Morgan had
Speaker 3: regularly checked in with her best friend, Taryn, who was
Speaker 3: still living in South Dakota. Since Sherry and Morgan were
Speaker 3: kind of on the fritz, Sherry had no idea that
Speaker 3: her daughter had stopped posting on Facebook. So a few
Speaker 3: weeks into March, a concerned Taryn, the best friend, goes
Speaker 3: to Sherry to explain, you know, Morgan has not contacted me,
Speaker 3: which is out of character.
Speaker 2: So already, pretty quickly, they're starting to get worried.
Speaker 3: Pretty quickly, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and that's going to strike you, You're going
Speaker 2: to notice that, right? If a friend or a family
Speaker 2: member just starts acting or not acting or not responding
Speaker 2: or anything that's really out of character for them, right?
Speaker 2: It's going to make you sit up and notice.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They just kind of drop off, drop out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Where'd they go? Now, hearing this, Sherry panics. She immediately
Speaker 3: contacted law enforcement in Atlanta to report her daughter missing.
Speaker 3: Sherry hopped on a plane hoping to search for Morgan.
Speaker 3: This was several weeks after Morgan was last heard from.
Speaker 3: Sherry filed a missing persons report on March 12th, and
Speaker 3: Morgan was last active on social media February 25th. And
Speaker 3: that's a very big gap and leaves everyone at a
Speaker 3: disadvantage when it comes to tracking down Morgan. It's so unfortunate,
Speaker 3: and it really wasn't Sherry's fault. She had not been
Speaker 3: keeping up with her daughter because, again, they had had
Speaker 3: this falling out. Sherry had been accustomed to these longer gaps,
Speaker 3: like between Morgan's messages. But now this feels very bad.
Speaker 3: even when things were bad between the mother and daughter,
Speaker 3: Morgan talked to Taryn every day, her best friend.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So even if she's not talking to mom, she's going
Speaker 3: to talk to her bestie every day, sometimes multiple times
Speaker 3: a day. So they were in constant contact. So when
Speaker 3: the best friend starts to notice, yeah, something's not right.
Speaker 2: Well, I wondered if that made her mom even, you know,
Speaker 2: because when you have a falling out or whatever, and
Speaker 2: then the, gaps in them contacting you. You know, sometimes
Speaker 2: that can happen even when you're not arguing. It just happens.
Speaker 2: Life happens, you know?
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: People get busy with their jobs or just trying to
Speaker 2: figure things out. But then everybody that knows them all
Speaker 2: of a sudden loses contact. I mean, what do you do?
Speaker 2: What do you do then? I mean, what do you
Speaker 2: even do with that information?
Speaker 3: When Sherry arrives in Atlanta, she is unsure about her
Speaker 3: daughter's activities. She's unaware that Morgan had made a deal
Speaker 3: with a man online for housing and She doesn't know
Speaker 3: about the strip club. Sherry's pretty clueless about all of this.
Speaker 3: She does try to retrace her daughter's steps. But again,
Speaker 3: Sherry's been in the dark about many of Morgan's activities.
Speaker 3: So it's really hard for her to piece together like
Speaker 3: a timeline and, you know, the exact places she had been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't even know what she's been doing, where
Speaker 2: she's been hanging out.
Speaker 3: Morgan had been keeping these secrets from people, which makes
Speaker 3: her case even more mysterious. As more information comes out,
Speaker 3: Sherry is shocked and growing more panicked by the minute.
Speaker 3: Everything her daughter had shared with her was a lie,
Speaker 3: and now her daughter is missing. Sherry does not know
Speaker 3: what to do. She feels helpless. And it's easy for
Speaker 3: us to blame Morgan, right? Little armchair quarterbacks. She lied.
Speaker 3: You know, she was ill-prepared for this move. She hadn't
Speaker 3: saved any money. She didn't have proper housing. Her friends
Speaker 3: weren't moving, as she'd said. But we must remember that
Speaker 3: Morgan is incredibly young. I mean, she's 19 and naive.
Speaker 3: She was trying to do what she thought was best
Speaker 3: to get out of South Dakota and live her dreams.
Speaker 3: And when we're young, we do all kinds of stupid
Speaker 3: things and make terrible decisions. It's part of growing up.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to give Morgan a little grace because
Speaker 3: no matter what she was doing, Morgan did not deserve
Speaker 3: to be a victim.
Speaker 2: Well, no, of course not. Poor planning certainly doesn't mean
Speaker 2: you deserve to be a victim. But, you know, even
Speaker 2: under the best set of circumstances, if you had planned,
Speaker 2: had a little money, things lined up more so than
Speaker 2: Morgan did, it's still going to be tough to move
Speaker 2: that far. And you're excited now. To do this thing.
Speaker 2: But then you're going very quickly. When you jump out there.
Speaker 2: You're going to figure out. That it's not all it's
Speaker 2: cracked up to be. Right. That things are hard. When
Speaker 2: everything's your responsibility. You know mom and dad aren't taking
Speaker 2: care of things now. You don't have that. You know
Speaker 2: safety net to fall back on. It's very tough.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 2: Her being young. And dumb if you will. As the
Speaker 2: saying goes. And not planning or any of that. Gosh,
Speaker 2: she almost guaranteed she was going to have issues of
Speaker 2: some sort, right?
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: It's not going to just work out.
Speaker 3: Right. But when you're 19... You don't always consider the
Speaker 3: bigger picture.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: No, you're.
Speaker 3: Because you're accustomed to things working out, typically because you're
Speaker 3: under mom and dad's roof.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And they fix things for you.
Speaker 2: Somehow the bills get paid. I don't know. You have support.
Speaker 3: Exactly. But, you know, when you're 19, you're not thinking
Speaker 3: about these things. I know I definitely was not thinking
Speaker 3: about these things at 19. No.
Speaker 2: And like you said, as you get older and it's
Speaker 2: almost inevitable that you're going to butt your heads with
Speaker 2: your parents in some way. You know, sometimes it's worse
Speaker 2: than others. But as a young person, you can't tell
Speaker 2: the young person anything.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: They think they have it all figured out. You're just
Speaker 2: a dumb old person who, you know, just blew all
Speaker 2: their chances at life. You know, and you can't hold
Speaker 2: me back from living my dreams.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: And, you know, it's funny. It's when we're out and
Speaker 2: about and we'll hear young people sometimes talking to each other.
Speaker 2: And you can tell they still had that. It's cute
Speaker 2: to a degree. They still have that naivety, if that's
Speaker 2: even a word, to themselves about just how the world
Speaker 2: is and how things work. And they'll be saying some
Speaker 2: big thing.
Speaker 3: It's easy to be an idealist when you're 18. It
Speaker 3: really is.
Speaker 2: It truly is.
Speaker 3: Because we were all like that at one point. I
Speaker 3: know I was all bright-eyed and mushy-tailed, ready to slay
Speaker 3: the world, right?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sherry recognized that her daughter was in a state
Speaker 3: of hypervigilance and survival mode. Now, Sherry, throughout this process,
Speaker 3: she does seem to like support and understand like what
Speaker 3: Morgan was thinking and some of the actions that, you know, Morgan,
Speaker 3: the steps Morgan was taking. So, I mean, her mom
Speaker 3: is not completely like blaming Morgan at all. She's like
Speaker 3: really trying to understand her daughter. Right. And support her daughter.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, she just wants to find her daughter, right?
Speaker 3: Yes, Dylan, that's the ultimate goal.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm saying you can chastise her later or,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe try to get some of this through
Speaker 2: her thick head. But now I'm sure your only concern
Speaker 2: is finding her and your worry is only going to
Speaker 2: grow as you continue to look for them. But then
Speaker 2: not knowing exactly... what she was doing or who she
Speaker 2: was doing it with, it makes it almost an impossible task.
Speaker 3: Well, given Morgan had limited contact with her mother in
Speaker 3: the weeks leading up to her disappearance, law enforcement initially
Speaker 3: treated it as a voluntary disappearance. Morgan had chosen to
Speaker 3: go off the radar. She's an adult. She's gone no contact.
Speaker 3: She lied about her activities. So she's probably just off
Speaker 3: doing her thing. And it's easy for law enforcement to
Speaker 3: reach this conclusion, right? I mean, it does seem a
Speaker 3: little bit like lazy police work to me. Very rarely
Speaker 3: do people just choose to go off the grid and
Speaker 3: become a missing person.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: We hear this time and time again in these types
Speaker 3: of cases, especially adult missing persons cases. They don't receive
Speaker 3: the same urgency or attention as children.
Speaker 2: No, they'll say they have a right to not be found.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: If they don't want to be.
Speaker 3: That is something they say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, literally is.
Speaker 3: Which, I mean, yes, to an extent, but if it's
Speaker 3: just completely out of someone's wheelhouse to do that type
Speaker 3: of thing, I just think sometimes stop being lazy and
Speaker 3: look into it, cops.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the cops have access to
Speaker 2: things that the public doesn't, so it should be very
Speaker 2: easy for them to track her social, track maybe her finances,
Speaker 2: if she has a debit card or anything like that,
Speaker 2: and see if there's activity, see if her social's been
Speaker 2: used to apply for jobs or anything like that. So
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like a half a day, which I
Speaker 2: know I'm simplifying the process of looking for someone who's missing,
Speaker 2: but it seems like it wouldn't be that hard to
Speaker 2: at least take a glance at it, right?
Speaker 3: Go ask some questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Make a few phone calls.
Speaker 2: Right. Try to build a timeline.
Speaker 3: Utilize social media.
Speaker 2: Look up her Facebooks.
Speaker 3: Like, hey, have you seen this person? Here's a photo.
Speaker 3: It gets circulated. I mean, come on. Anyway.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Despite the police's nonchalant approach to the case, Sherry's deeply troubled.
Speaker 3: Most parents would be. Sherry reached out to TJ Ward,
Speaker 3: a private investigator, and to this nonprofit called For Sarah.
Speaker 3: For Sarah is an organization dedicated to helping sex workers
Speaker 3: and adult entertainers escape dangerous situations. So upon hearing Morgan's story,
Speaker 3: the founder sprang into action to assist Sherry. So this
Speaker 3: is an excellent resource.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of this group.
Speaker 3: For Sarah?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me either. Now, it is learned that on the
Speaker 3: night Morgan seemingly disappeared, which was Monday, February 25th of 2016,
Speaker 3: she had auditioned at a nightclub in northeast Atlanta called T's.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were just going to say it
Speaker 2: was called Tits and Taters.
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, it's Tits and Taters, Dylan.
Speaker 2: I would go there and hang out.
Speaker 3: No, that's their lunch buffet.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: All you can eat, taters and some titties.
Speaker 2: All you can eat taters and tits.
Speaker 3: Morgan had met another young woman at this club who
Speaker 3: called herself Lilith Chaos. And she also had like an
Speaker 3: online persona, Diamond. Whoa.
Speaker 2: What if Lilith Chaos was her God-given name?
Speaker 3: That'd be awesome, right? Now, in my research, it has
Speaker 3: been said that Lilith paid for Morgan's permit to so
Speaker 3: she could dance at T's.
Speaker 2: That's that booty-shaking permit.
Speaker 3: Now, the two young women were about the same age,
Speaker 3: dancing at this club, and they headed off. They're spending
Speaker 3: time together. After they depart T's, the two went to
Speaker 3: Top of Gainesville to dance for the night. The club's
Speaker 3: owner recalled that Morgan left the club with Lilith and
Speaker 3: her boyfriend. The only money Morgan had was on an
Speaker 3: H & R Block refund card. And authorities discovered that
Speaker 3: whatever money was on that card had not been spent.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So again, we're told Morgan doesn't have any money, but
Speaker 3: it sounds like she has access to some money, or
Speaker 3: at least a little bit of money.
Speaker 2: Some tax returns.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming H & R Block, right? But the beginning
Speaker 3: of the investigation was rough.
Speaker 2: Police..
Speaker 3: Dragged their feet. There wasn't a lot of information to
Speaker 3: go on. And soon they discovered she had not been
Speaker 3: active on social media since the 25th of February. However,
Speaker 3: friends noted that she had posted a video on February 26th.
Speaker 3: It appears that she's walking in a park. The video
Speaker 3: features Morgan kind of smiling slyly at the camera with
Speaker 3: wind blowing through her hair. But there is a man
Speaker 3: like noticeably following behind her in the video.
Speaker 2: A lot close behind her, it seems.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Morgan's phone pinged a final time just a few
Speaker 3: days later on February 29th near Yellow River Park. It
Speaker 3: is a 566-acre park in Stone Mountain, Georgia, east of Atlanta.
Speaker 3: It appears to be the same park where that video
Speaker 3: was shot. Sadly, Morgan's phone was never recovered. And, you know,
Speaker 3: the phone really could tell us so much about her activities.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
Speaker 3: Just based on the cell phone pings and the conversation
Speaker 3: she's having. So it's a shame that they have not
Speaker 3: been able to recover her phone. While Sherry is in
Speaker 3: town searching for Morgan, she learns from Tease's owner that
Speaker 3: Lilith Chaos returned to the club the same night that
Speaker 3: she'd left with Morgan. Sherry meets with Lilith and her boyfriend.
Speaker 3: And according to Sherry, Lilith is polite and seemingly helpful.
Speaker 3: But the boyfriend appears cold and distant.
Speaker 2: Which sends up.
Speaker 3: A little bit of a red flag to this mother.
Speaker 3: Lilith claimed they had last seen Morgan at a Citgo
Speaker 3: gas station in Covington, Georgia. This location is about an
Speaker 3: hour and 15 minutes away from Gainesville, where they had
Speaker 3: been dancing that night. Lilith stated that they had given
Speaker 3: Morgan a ride to the Citgo, and that at one
Speaker 3: point they said Morgan got into a green Mitsubishi Eclipse.
Speaker 2: Oh, no.
Speaker 3: Both Lilith and the boyfriend said they didn't see her
Speaker 3: speak to Morgan after they dropped her off at this
Speaker 3: gas station. And she allegedly got into this green Mitsubishi Eclipse.
Speaker 2: What a badass car.
Speaker 3: So why would Morgan ask to be dropped off so
Speaker 3: far away from the club? I mean, she didn't know
Speaker 3: anyone in Covington or so it seems, right? And that's
Speaker 3: a far, you know, pretty far distance, an hour and
Speaker 3: 15 minutes. And what were the three of them doing there?
Speaker 3: I mean, there's like a lot of unanswered questions. And
Speaker 3: if you recently like met this girl, knowing she had
Speaker 3: no one in town, she's brand new. You're just going
Speaker 3: to ditch her at a gas station, not offer her
Speaker 3: like a place to stay. I don't know. It just
Speaker 3: makes no sense to me.
Speaker 2: Seems a little odd.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're thinking, but I know as
Speaker 3: a young person, I would have been like really concerned
Speaker 3: for this young lady knowing she was essentially homeless and
Speaker 3: And probably would have been like, hey, do you want
Speaker 3: to come crash?
Speaker 2: So even as a young person, you would have been like,
Speaker 2: we need to do something for her, help her a
Speaker 2: little bit, right?
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think most people would feel that way.
Speaker 3: Sherry would later say the couple told these different versions
Speaker 3: of the story. I mean, not incredibly different, but different
Speaker 3: enough to raise, again, red flags with her. The more
Speaker 3: Sherry discussed that evening with this couple, the more she
Speaker 3: noticed things kind of changing. The story, the tone, the attitude,
Speaker 3: just kind of everything. And the other thing is this
Speaker 3: couple lives less than a mile from the Yellow River
Speaker 3: Park where Morgan's phone last pinged.
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 3: So it seems to me like perhaps police should be
Speaker 3: taking a closer look at this couple. Sherry's doing most
Speaker 3: of the legwork to find her daughter since police are
Speaker 3: slow to react. She sets up a GoFundMe page to
Speaker 3: pay for the private investigator and other expenses associated with
Speaker 3: being in Atlanta. Now, Dylan, this is where the case
Speaker 3: takes a very odd turn. You know, someone began posing
Speaker 3: as Morgan online under her dancer persona. I guess she
Speaker 3: had created some kind of page, fan page, whatever. or
Speaker 3: an account for this dancing persona. Alyssa, Morgan's older sister,
Speaker 3: began speaking with this imposter online, as did one of
Speaker 3: Morgan's friends. She became convinced that Morgan was not missing.
Speaker 3: So the sister, Alyssa, believes that Morgan simply wanted to
Speaker 3: cut ties with her family. She was not missing at all.
Speaker 3: Alyssa went as far as accusing her mother of lying
Speaker 3: about Morgan's disappearance. So she could pocket money from the fundraiser.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 3: She accused Sherry of making it all up. A Facebook
Speaker 3: page called Missing Morgan had been set up to share
Speaker 3: information about the case. And Alyssa and this friend told
Speaker 3: the 10,000 plus members on this Facebook page that this
Speaker 3: story was a hoax.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Even though Morgan's case was active and being investigated by
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Police Department.
Speaker 2: And they still hadn't heard from her.
Speaker 3: But many people believed Alyssa's claims. People are supporting Sherry
Speaker 3: and they want to find Morgan, but others think it's
Speaker 3: a hoax. painting sherry as this bad guy who's like
Speaker 3: exploiting her daughter for money.
Speaker 2: And what's funny about the being online part is people
Speaker 2: get so strongly their convictions whenever they fall come down
Speaker 2: on a side of a conversation or an issue Man,
Speaker 2: they will die on that hill. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2: They go so hardcore just almost instantly. You know, it's
Speaker 2: almost however it makes you feel in the very beginning.
Speaker 2: That's the side you're on. And it's like people very
Speaker 2: seldom through conversation and debate like change their mind, you know?
Speaker 3: Right. Or when something shocking comes out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it doesn't fit their or support their narrative.
Speaker 3: Exactly. That doesn't support what they've been saying.
Speaker 2: Right. It's lies. It's whatever. And now it's AI, which
Speaker 2: I think it's the real purpose of AI is to
Speaker 2: make us not believe real things when we see them.
Speaker 2: Real important things. People just say, oh, it's AI. There's
Speaker 2: no way it's true.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be good enough to fool us.
Speaker 2: It's just going to make us not believe the real stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah. I mean, have you met AI? It can't
Speaker 3: even give me proper directions. Like, we've had Google Maps
Speaker 3: for years, which is, you know, I would say almost
Speaker 3: a mini version of AI, right?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Giving you directions. Every fucking time I get lost. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It takes me, like, some very strange way around town.
Speaker 3: I don't know why the cats are climbing the curtains
Speaker 3: right now. If AI could do anything, can it solve
Speaker 3: my cat crisis?
Speaker 2: No, how do you take a crosstown trip that can
Speaker 2: literally be three turns, you know, end up on the
Speaker 2: major thoroughfare and just ride through town, and you take
Speaker 2: me through neighborhoods I've never seen before.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
Speaker 2: With, like, dead-end streets, four-way stop signs, roundabouts, switchbacks. You know,
Speaker 2: turn around this guy's driveway and then go across here.
Speaker 2: And it's like you could have just went and you'll
Speaker 2: look on the map and you're like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Well, all AI does anyway is just read a bunch
Speaker 3: of shit on the Internet and like explain it to
Speaker 3: you like Cliff's notes.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: And so it can give you tons of misinformation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it could be that could be its base
Speaker 2: could be misinformation.
Speaker 3: OK. A while back, I have to say there is
Speaker 3: a missing persons case that we covered some years ago.
Speaker 3: And I was just interested in like, has there been
Speaker 3: any more, you know, any more investigation or whatever come
Speaker 3: out in this case? And I looked it up and
Speaker 3: there is a true crime podcast that had posted this
Speaker 3: entire like long blog post on their website about this
Speaker 3: particular missing persons case. Right. Where they name like the
Speaker 3: accused suspect and that they found this missing persons body
Speaker 3: and all this shit. completely fabricated not correct at all
Speaker 3: it sounds like fucking fan fiction or some shit about
Speaker 3: a real missing persons case it's so weird and it's
Speaker 3: very obvious to me AI wrote this script for this
Speaker 3: podcast and that they did no research to like find
Speaker 3: out if it's true that's crazy because this victim's never
Speaker 3: been found she's still missing we don't know if it
Speaker 3: was a homicide there's definitely not a suspect I mean
Speaker 3: none of it is true well look and they've still
Speaker 3: got it out there on the internet like it's a true.
Speaker 2: Thing And I think that's very dangerous. Now, that might
Speaker 2: be okay if you're talking about comic books or, you know,
Speaker 2: any Legos or something like that to not have accurate information.
Speaker 2: But I think it's unethical. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of discussion about how ethical podcast space is, period. But
Speaker 2: I think that's just, when you're talking about real people,
Speaker 2: real victims, real people's lives and stories, that's not okay. Okay.
Speaker 2: It's not okay to put some slop out there and
Speaker 2: call it the truth.
Speaker 3: No, it's terrible. And I can't even believe that this
Speaker 3: post is still up, that no one's called these people out.
Speaker 3: There's absolutely no credibility at all to this story.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it didn't just have a couple of
Speaker 2: minor mistakes. The whole thing's not right. The whole story. Right.
Speaker 2: Which is crazy.
Speaker 3: It sounds to me like some bizarre AI thing. script
Speaker 3: just making up some script for this podcast.
Speaker 2: No it's funny there's a like a tone like you'll
Speaker 2: see these videos and sometimes they'll trick you for a
Speaker 2: second but if you hear the tone and the cadence
Speaker 2: of the dialogue and just watch you you almost instantly
Speaker 2: know that this is not a real video this is
Speaker 2: ai right.
Speaker 3: Well, in the end, this just creates confusion. It undermines
Speaker 3: the investigation. It does more harm than good, especially when
Speaker 3: it is proven to be a lie. So the story
Speaker 3: about a hoax is a lie. Very harmful, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because now you have a lot of people, they don't
Speaker 3: even think Morgan's missing.
Speaker 2: Well, and you'll have people that..
Speaker 3: It just derails the whole investigation.
Speaker 2: You'll have people that repeat that over and over again.
Speaker 2: You'll have, even if some facts or some big kind
Speaker 2: of break in the case was to come, people will
Speaker 2: be like, that's not true. This is what I heard.
Speaker 2: And it really could be damaging people to maybe resources
Speaker 2: or donations that could help fund the search or anything
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, I just don't understand why they would
Speaker 2: do that. Unless they truly believed it was a hoax
Speaker 2: and not real, which maybe is the case.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, it does seem her sister believed that.
Speaker 3: that this was all a hoax. But I also wonder,
Speaker 3: you know, years later, does she look back and be like,
Speaker 3: oh gosh, I have an egg on my face because
Speaker 3: I was wrong. Right. And I possibly, potentially, like, detracted
Speaker 3: from this case. I don't know. Alyssa believes her opinion
Speaker 3: so strongly that she posts on Facebook that she's spoken
Speaker 3: to Morgan and that Sherry knows her daughter is safe
Speaker 3: and the whole ordeal is just for attention. Sherry just
Speaker 3: wants attention.
Speaker 2: She's made up.
Speaker 3: The whole thing. She goes on to say she was
Speaker 3: manipulated and abused by this woman her entire life. That's
Speaker 3: a quote. She had allegedly cut off contact with her mother, Sherry,
Speaker 3: and had only known about Morgan being missing after law
Speaker 3: enforcement contacted her. She said, quote, Sherry fed me the
Speaker 3: same lies as everyone else through this and is the
Speaker 3: sole reason Morgan left and doesn't want to reveal herself.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: So it sounds like there's a lot of animosity between
Speaker 3: Alyssa and her mother. Alyssa goes on to describe Sherry
Speaker 3: as manipulative, bipolar, and choosing different personalities to fit the narrative.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Now, it turns out that Sherry had been a young
Speaker 3: mother when Alyssa was born, like a teen mom, and
Speaker 3: that she had placed her daughter in the custody of
Speaker 3: her parents. So Alyssa was raised by her grandparents, and
Speaker 3: she held deep resentment about it. Sherry believed this is
Speaker 3: why Alyssa had such deep-seated anger and was posting all
Speaker 3: of these accusations and claims on social media. Due to
Speaker 3: this back and forth, Morgan's case was diminished. Sherry and
Speaker 3: the rest of the family began receiving backlash and hate online.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: Death threats, just horrible stuff.
Speaker 2: T.J.
Speaker 3: Ward, the private investigator, agreed that at first he thought
Speaker 3: Morgan had staged... this disappearance to break away from her
Speaker 3: family and start a new life. But when Morgan didn't
Speaker 3: start showing up for, like, scheduled dates and appointments, jobs,
Speaker 3: you know, she's supposed to dance this night, whatever, his
Speaker 3: concerns kind of grew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but she'd already moved away. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not like she's trying to get out of her
Speaker 2: mom's house or something. She'd already moved away a good
Speaker 2: distance into a new city. And now she's doing these things.
Speaker 2: It's siding her, right? Shaking her little booty on the
Speaker 2: dance floor, if you will.
Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I want to be a dancer.
Speaker 3: I know you do. You just want to go to
Speaker 3: the Pink Pony Club.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I just want somebody to pour a bucket
Speaker 2: of water on me on stage.
Speaker 3: Ooh. Like Flashdance?
Speaker 2: Exactly like Flashdance.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: With me wearing that exact outfit.
Speaker 3: Okay. The leg warmers.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: The little gray... Sweatshirt with the neckline cut out.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a big gray sweatshirt on me.
Speaker 3: Now, as the case gained traction, despite the setbacks, law
Speaker 3: enforcement considered foul play was involved in Morgan's disappearance. Law
Speaker 3: enforcement questioned everyone who came into contact with Morgan during
Speaker 3: those few weeks in Georgia. They tracked down the man
Speaker 3: from Craigslist. He was cleared along with some of the
Speaker 3: other people who had come into contact with Morgan. Police
Speaker 3: were still skeptical of the couple. The couple that, you know,
Speaker 3: she had met at the nightclub, Lilith Chaos.
Speaker 2: Right, the ones who live near Yellow, the park.
Speaker 3: And her boyfriend, yes. But they had no evidence to
Speaker 3: prove that they were involved in Morgan's disappearance. Searches were organized.
Speaker 3: Flyers were passed out. A billboard was erected. But there
Speaker 3: was no sign of Morgan. Tips and sightings were reported,
Speaker 3: but none brought law enforcement any closer to finding Morgan,
Speaker 3: and eventually Sherry had to return to South Dakota. Years
Speaker 3: passed with no word on Morgan, like her case, it
Speaker 3: just goes cold. But Sherry had been keeping watch on
Speaker 3: that couple, Lilith and her boyfriend. She kept tabs on
Speaker 3: their move out of state, their breakup, and even after
Speaker 3: they settled in two different states.
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: Sherry had this gut feeling that they knew more and
Speaker 3: just could not let it go.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you almost can't blame her, right? They're telling,
Speaker 2: you know, their stories are changing. Maybe she's just getting
Speaker 2: like a vibe from them that they're kind of sketchy.
Speaker 2: Not being truthful. And that would bug you. It's like
Speaker 2: something you couldn't let go of.
Speaker 3: And it does seem like all of those things, Dylan.
Speaker 3: Nearly seven and a half years after Morgan's disappearance, a
Speaker 3: shocking development emerged. On July 26th of 2023... The FBI,
Speaker 3: which is now involved, along with the GBI, the Georgia
Speaker 3: Bureau of Investigation, and multiple law enforcement agencies, they announced
Speaker 3: plans to search a residence on South Broad Street in Porterdale, Georgia.
Speaker 3: They had received a tip that they deemed credible, and
Speaker 3: it was about human remains at this location.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Though details were kept tight-lipped, Newton County officials confirmed that
Speaker 3: the remains of Morgan Bauer had been discovered the manner
Speaker 3: of death homicide by strangulation.
Speaker 2: Oh my God. So she's no longer missing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, interestingly enough, the indictment named the very couple
Speaker 3: Sherry had suspected all along. Lilith Chaos, whose real name
Speaker 3: is Caitlin Goble, and her then-boyfriend Jonathan Alexander Warren were
Speaker 3: were both arrested in October of 2023, just a few
Speaker 3: months after Morgan's remains were uncovered.
Speaker 2: Damn, what a last name, right? Goebbels?
Speaker 3: Caitlin was living in Peoria, Illinois, on charges of... So
Speaker 3: she's living in, I'm sorry, in Peoria, Illinois, and she
Speaker 3: is charged with concealing a death and tampering with evidence. Jonathan,
Speaker 3: who goes by the name Alex, was living in Los Angeles, California... Now,
Speaker 3: he's arrested on charges of murder, aggravated assault, and concealing
Speaker 3: a death. It was revealed that after strangling Morgan, the
Speaker 3: couple allegedly attempted to burn her body to hide evidence.
Speaker 3: So their home, again, very close to the place Morgan's
Speaker 3: phone last pinged.
Speaker 2: Now, I wonder how or if the cops did at
Speaker 2: all take a look at this couple early on. so
Speaker 2: but no I'm sorry you said they did but there
Speaker 2: really wasn't any kind of evidence no nothing to so
Speaker 2: nothing for like a search warrant or anything like that
Speaker 2: so now I wonder what broke.
Speaker 3: The case we're gonna get to that so on the
Speaker 3: day of the murder Caitlin posted a bizarre threat about
Speaker 3: her boyfriend Alex saying he was a murderer and that
Speaker 3: she was quote unwilling to share her man with anyone.
Speaker 2: Else that's right he's mine If.
Speaker 3: You hear violence in the background, it's because our cats
Speaker 3: are psychotic.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
Speaker 3: They wake up every day and choose violence.
Speaker 2: Yeah. What is happening? Damn.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's like they're on a mission to
Speaker 3: fuck each other up.
Speaker 2: They really are. All right, guys. Cut it out.
Speaker 3: I don't have access to that Facebook post or whatever. But, again,
Speaker 3: it was something along those lines of, like, My man's
Speaker 3: a murderer, and I ain't going to share him.
Speaker 2: He's mine. You may have had him once, but I
Speaker 2: have him all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: He don't want you. He wants me. Oh, God. Remember
Speaker 3: that stupid social media song?
Speaker 2: They need to bring that trend back.
Speaker 3: It was always like.
Speaker 2: The roughest couple.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That nobody else wants, and they would be all in, too.
Speaker 3: I'm fighting for my man.
Speaker 2: They would be for real.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, let me just say, Dylan, trust me, bro.
Speaker 3: I've seen Caitlin's former man, Alex. And I'm just going
Speaker 3: to say I highly doubt anyone was busting down that door.
Speaker 2: OK.
Speaker 3: OK.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's funny or something. Maybe he has a really
Speaker 2: good personality.
Speaker 3: Maybe. Yeah. Maybe he's charming.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Charming as a motherfucking pig. All right, so after the murder,
Speaker 3: Alex and Caitlin moved to Illinois, where she went on
Speaker 3: to dance at another club. They were both addicted to heroin,
Speaker 3: and Alex was described as being very abusive. The couple
Speaker 3: moved in with Caitlin's grandmother and her partner. So this
Speaker 3: grandma and her boyfriend were so creeped out by Alex
Speaker 3: and his very just weird behavior that they kicked him
Speaker 3: out of their house.
Speaker 2: Oh, gosh.
Speaker 3: Alex camped in their backyard. And once they were finally
Speaker 3: able to remove him from the property, he stalked and
Speaker 3: harassed them for months, making threats.
Speaker 2: Just hollering at them.
Speaker 3: Stalking them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's out in the bushes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm going to get you. Look, I'm going
Speaker 2: to get you for what you've done to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Come on, I can't sleep in the house. You won't
Speaker 2: even let me sleep in the backyard either, you son
Speaker 2: of a bitch.
Speaker 3: How dare you. Now, eventually, Alex moved to Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Caitlin met and married a guy named David Settles and
Speaker 3: had two children. Now, I don't know how true this is,
Speaker 3: but allegedly, after Caitlin's first child was born, Alex sent
Speaker 3: her a threatening message, basically saying, like, if you ever
Speaker 3: tell anyone what we did to that girl, meaning Morgan,
Speaker 3: that he would kill her and the child.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 3: A scared Caitlin confessed to her husband, David, what had happened.
Speaker 3: But instead of calling police at that time, Caitlin claims
Speaker 3: David used that information to control her.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: They both struggled with drug and alcohol abuse. The relationship
Speaker 3: was turbulent, just filled with violence. And after they finally
Speaker 3: split up, that's when David went to Atlanta police with
Speaker 3: the tip about Morgan's remains.
Speaker 2: So that's what broke the case open.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Hell hath no fury.
Speaker 2: Like a David scorned.
Speaker 3: Like a David scorned. Caitlin and Alex were arrested and
Speaker 3: extradited back to Georgia, where they were held without bail.
Speaker 3: In a strange turn of events, Alex pled guilty to
Speaker 3: charges of malice murder, concealing the death of another, aggravated assault,
Speaker 3: tampering with evidence, and necrophilia?
Speaker 2: Ew.
Speaker 3: Alex requested the death penalty?
Speaker 2: Kill me.
Speaker 3: I love your inner monologue that you let out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I unleash it on our listeners. Kill me. I
Speaker 2: don't deserve to live.
Speaker 3: In the end, he was given the life without parole. No.
Speaker 3: Caitlyn Goebel's defense team attempted to have her declared incompetent
Speaker 3: to stand trial. Prosecutors pushed to use Caitlyn's social media
Speaker 3: posts that occult involvement and Satanism led the couple to
Speaker 3: kill Morgan.
Speaker 2: From Facebook posts?
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what kind of posts they were, too.
Speaker 2: I've seen them before.
Speaker 3: During the 2025 hearing, Alex told investigators what happened to
Speaker 3: Morgan's body after death, and the details go considerably beyond
Speaker 3: what was contained in the original indictment.
Speaker 2: Well, it was probably a post that said something like,
Speaker 2: I fight hard, but I love harder. Something like that.
Speaker 2: You ever seen them like that? Those Facebook posts.
Speaker 3: You ever seen them like that? Gosh, you're a country.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen those?
Speaker 3: You ever seen them? I mean, I understand. Yes.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: I know the kinds of posts you are speaking of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll have like skeletons and hearts.
Speaker 3: Or like the Joker.
Speaker 2: Or the witches and stuff.
Speaker 3: Or they'll have like Harley Quinn and be like, you know.
Speaker 3: I've been to hell and back, but I'm a survivor.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Or like a phoenix rising up out of the cigarette ashes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, out of an ashtray.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes. Alex Warren told investigators that both he and
Speaker 3: Caitlin had put their hands around Morgan's neck, causing death.
Speaker 3: Then the couple dismembered Morgan's body. Alex admitted to committing
Speaker 3: sex acts with Morgan's torso over the period of several days.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That's disgusting in so many ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah. At the hearing, prosecutors stated that Alex Warren told
Speaker 3: them that he and Caitlin Goble had eaten part of
Speaker 3: Morgan's genitalia.
Speaker 2: So it just keeps getting worse.
Speaker 3: These people are incredibly fucked up people. Three days after
Speaker 3: her murder, the couple placed Morgan's body in a suitcase
Speaker 3: and burned it in the backyard. Alex also told investigators
Speaker 3: that Caitlin Goble was not only interested in Satanism, like
Speaker 3: serial killers, the occult, but also forensic pathology, and had
Speaker 3: allegedly wanted to murder someone so she could dissect a
Speaker 3: human body. She wanted to perform her own autopsy. Ooh.
Speaker 3: There is also a piece of evidence taken from Caitlin
Speaker 3: Goble's social media showing her with what appears to be
Speaker 3: a severed head.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Now, prosecutors want to use this as well as her
Speaker 3: interests in these, I guess you could say, dark arts,
Speaker 3: dark activities at trial because it shows that Caitlin had
Speaker 3: motive and her motive was like, I want to kill
Speaker 3: someone because I am the devil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she posts stuff like, I love the devil.
Speaker 3: My name is Lilith Chaos. Yeah. Now, as far as
Speaker 3: I can tell, Goebbels is still awaiting trial in Georgia.
Speaker 3: There's no new information about her trial date, anything like that.
Speaker 3: And that wraps up our case on Morgan Bauer. It's
Speaker 3: the saddest story.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God. So we started out as a missing person.
Speaker 2: And then her remains were found. And they actually got
Speaker 2: the people who killed her.
Speaker 3: Yes. So the family finally has some closure. Justice has
Speaker 3: partially been served. But Caitlin Goble needs to pay for
Speaker 3: what she did.
Speaker 2: Well, sure she does. Well, yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think she was mentally incompetent to stand trial.
Speaker 3: She was competent enough to participate in all this sick shit.
Speaker 2: So do we think this was a thrill kill? Probably.
Speaker 3: Probably.
Speaker 2: Something along that line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a crime of opportunity, a thrill kill.
Speaker 2: You have this girl, vulnerable.
Speaker 3: Yep. We're going to take advantage of this situation.
Speaker 2: God, pieces of shit.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely. Damn. It's like all of Sherry's worst nightmares
Speaker 3: came to fruition.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: About her daughter moving to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Exactly what she was worried about. Her coming across some violent,
Speaker 2: terrible people.
Speaker 3: Deviant people.
Speaker 2: God, what sickos.
Speaker 3: Anytime I hear necrophilia, I'm like, what the fuck is
Speaker 3: wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Well, even the word alone is dark and scary, right?
Speaker 3: That's just a level of depravity I cannot wrap my
Speaker 3: brain around.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to kiss a dead person.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to kiss a dead body.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't kiss my dead body?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go to second base with your dead body.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't touch my heart and nipple?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 3: That's sad.
Speaker 2: I don't want to feel a cold nipple. That would
Speaker 2: be weird.
Speaker 3: You will feel my corpse nipple. That's the name of
Speaker 3: my new punk band, Corpse Nipple.
Speaker 2: Okay, pretty groovy. Now, if I can get some heat
Speaker 2: lamps in there, well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: Okay, moving along here, Dylan.
Speaker 2: We could definitely snuggle. I would snuggle you one more time.
Speaker 3: What if I shit on you?
Speaker 2: Well, I think you probably already did all that.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: We'll clean you up.
Speaker 3: I did that before I died. Sorry. All right. All right. Well,
Speaker 3: that wraps up our case on Morgan Bauer. Again, such
Speaker 3: a tragedy.
Speaker 2: It's terrible.
Speaker 3: This story has haunted me since the first moment I
Speaker 3: heard of her disappearance years ago. I am glad her
Speaker 3: family does finally have some answers at least. Yeah. That
Speaker 3: not knowing part is so hard.
Speaker 2: No, I'm glad they got the animals that did this
Speaker 2: to this poor girl.
Speaker 3: But it's also got to be quite a burden to
Speaker 3: live with the knowledge of what they did. As a mom,
Speaker 3: I can't imagine what Sherry goes through every day thinking
Speaker 3: about what these fucking demons did to her child.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's got to be one of the worst
Speaker 2: parts of having a loved one be the victim of
Speaker 2: a homicide. Just knowing that they were probably scared and
Speaker 2: what was going through their mind in their last moments. And, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that could probably drive you crazy
Speaker 2: thinking about that.
Speaker 3: I've seen Sherry. She's active on social media. She still
Speaker 3: discusses her daughter's case and advocates for other families, other victims,
Speaker 3: other missing persons. And she uses that Missing Morgan Facebook
Speaker 3: page to promote flyers and posters to share information about
Speaker 3: other missing persons.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So she does seem to have an interest in advocacy.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think that really drives a lot of people.
Speaker 2: who've lost somebody like this, and they really do a
Speaker 2: lot of good.
Speaker 3: Well, it's trying to find, I guess, a little bit
Speaker 3: of silver lining inside the most devastating thing that could
Speaker 3: happen to you.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, these passionate parents and friends and family
Speaker 2: of victims... Change legislation. You know, they get new laws
Speaker 2: on the books that protect everyone.
Speaker 3: They get shit done.
Speaker 2: They get shit done.
Speaker 3: Like Tim Miller with Texas EquiSearch.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You know, his daughter was a victim of the, like
Speaker 3: the Texas Killing Fields murders. And he went on to
Speaker 3: create this organization that has helped find, you know, many
Speaker 3: missing people. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Well, thank you for that, Heather. And thank
Speaker 2: you listeners for tuning in once again. Sorry I was
Speaker 2: a little flat. A little flat on this episode. I
Speaker 2: was a little bit tired. But that's alright.
Speaker 3: We forgive you.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get some sleep.
Speaker 3: You can't always be the top of Gainesville. You can't
Speaker 3: always be the top of your game.
Speaker 2: I'm going to come over to Frankenfurters. That's where I'm
Speaker 2: going to dance at.
Speaker 3: My new club, the Top of Dillon.
Speaker 2: No, I came up with the Pole Barn.
Speaker 3: You said the Pole Barn would be a good name.
Speaker 2: Good name for a male strip club.
Speaker 3: Or like a pole fitness academy. Where people go and learn, like, to,
Speaker 3: you know, intro to pole. We call it the pole barn.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Speaker 3: Okay. We're going to put you to bed. Yeah. Good night, Dylan. Bye.