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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, The Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>It is May twenty ninth.

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<v Speaker 3>We're live at Cell Block G today because our main

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<v Speaker 3>studio is undergoing some sort of a fix.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In the break, guys, we started talking about drugs and

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<v Speaker 1>we were oh yeah, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>We went from we were convinced.

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<v Speaker 3>By the end of the show today we will have

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<v Speaker 3>tried uh pruno, you know, the toilet wine that they

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<v Speaker 3>make in jail, and some sort of butter.

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<v Speaker 2>Rice Christians Country.

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<v Speaker 1>You find out what you're made of when you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the inside, and we're not.

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<v Speaker 5>Made of much.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 5>We are crumbling also very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>If you guys might help me out, I have I

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<v Speaker 3>have two invitations to join a couple of gangs already

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<v Speaker 3>here in Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so there's only four of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Well one of them is just one of them is

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<v Speaker 3>just the white power thing. I don't know if I'm

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not down with the with the ideology, but I

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<v Speaker 3>mean in terms of like protection and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to do a lot more push ups

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<v Speaker 1>to hold the white power flag. Well, then the other

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<v Speaker 1>gang is because you're out numbered, is the Clean.

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<v Speaker 2>Boys gang, which I had never heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh tell me more about the clean That's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Only they said. The only requirement is no tattoos.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, you don't have, right, So I I qualify

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<v Speaker 3>for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I could probably tattoo you with a pen while we're

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<v Speaker 1>in here.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think we should do.

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<v Speaker 2>That prison tat? Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Howard cheek like a ballpoint pen and I and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Start jabbing it into my skin.

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<v Speaker 5>And it bleeds? Does it stay?

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<v Speaker 4>See?

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<v Speaker 1>These are things you have early on when you get

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<v Speaker 1>into prison. These are Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>You use a sharpie. A sharp sharpe will leave a

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<v Speaker 5>lasting long It will last a little longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell yeah, hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So give me you need something to give me

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<v Speaker 3>a risk. You need to poke into my skin and

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<v Speaker 3>then put.

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<v Speaker 1>I have the I have this sharper pen, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I should use the you to use a paper clip.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's there's some pushpins over there that'll work. There we

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<v Speaker 3>go all right, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Then I put the sharpie ink in your bloodstream.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, We told you a couple of weeks ago about

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<v Speaker 3>that Smokey Robinson lawsuit these four women accuse him of

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<v Speaker 3>sexual abuse for years. He has now filed a counter

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<v Speaker 3>suit for five hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Good.

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<v Speaker 1>He should, He should because listen, like I've said from go,

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<v Speaker 1>Smokey Robinson is no saint.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know that. It's just a guess.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't look like that and go through that many

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<v Speaker 1>decades in the music career and not get what you

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<v Speaker 1>want when it comes to women and things.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But had he been the kind of person to assault

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<v Speaker 1>women that doesn't start when you're seventy eight years old,

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<v Speaker 1>that is something we would have heard about retroactively. We

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<v Speaker 1>would have heard about it decades ago. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>who he is, because we would have heard about it

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<v Speaker 1>if that was who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember, so we saw this lawsuit from the four women

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks ago. According to this counter suit,

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<v Speaker 3>Smokey Robinson and his wife Francis alleged that these four

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<v Speaker 3>housekeepers tried to extort one hundred million dollars from them

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<v Speaker 3>last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's transparent to me that they stayed around. They probably

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<v Speaker 1>tried to elicit behavior that they could then turn around

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<v Speaker 1>and sue for a great deal.

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<v Speaker 5>Of money.

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<v Speaker 3>For other quick celebrity news. Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence

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<v Speaker 3>are now officially in laws. Eddie's oldest son married Martin

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<v Speaker 3>Lawrence's oldest daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's cool, married earlier this month.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Are running out of time, so we'll get to it

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<v Speaker 1>coming up next.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the story.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a news item that didn't receive too much attention.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a mother's body found downtown LA and the

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<v Speaker 1>Westlake neighborhood. Still don't know how she died, but the

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<v Speaker 1>family is blaming Los Angeles for not clearing these encampments

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<v Speaker 1>like the one where mom died ops. When her family

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<v Speaker 1>went to go look for her, they found her body

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<v Speaker 1>being eaten by dogs. I mean, that's really the awful,

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<v Speaker 1>awful thing that makes the headline and makes this story

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<v Speaker 1>stick around. But the fact that a mother, a forty

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<v Speaker 1>six year old mother, was found dead in this homeless

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<v Speaker 1>encampment that happened under the rules of Los Angeles, that

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<v Speaker 1>happened under the lack of rules of Los Angeles. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're legislating with feelings for homeless people and you're legislating, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do that. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>force them into jail or off the street, or take

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<v Speaker 1>away their cardboard box or their tents or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The people on the West Side and their ivory towers,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like that. It's not good for me politically.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll just let anything go. Well, when you let

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<v Speaker 1>anything go, anything goes to the tune of what could

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<v Speaker 1>be multiple murders. And as a city on the hook

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<v Speaker 1>for that, this family says it should be, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got to agree with them.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that when we come back.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 4>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever race a Ferrari on an F one track?

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like fun, isn't it done?

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<v Speaker 4>That?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you open it up? I mean, would you really

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage? Or would you go thirty five?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a Ferrari on an F one track. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have to? Wouldn't you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>You, even if it scared the living crap out of.

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<v Speaker 5>You, you'd have to, now, yes, you would.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple stories that were following.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, a federal court has block President Trump from imposing

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<v Speaker 3>tariffs on imports using an emergency powers law. So that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of throws everything into question.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Global financial markets have been rattled for the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of months because of these tariffs, and actually shot up

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<v Speaker 3>today as a result of this ruling. It's from the

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<v Speaker 3>US Court of International Trade. The Trump administration immediately appealed.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a story going around about I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to butcher her name. Lucrecia Lucretia Lucretia Lucretia Baranjas, forty

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<v Speaker 1>six years old, found dead, oh, right around Mother's Day

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<v Speaker 1>by one of our three daughters. This is a US

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<v Speaker 1>Army veteran found dead by one of our three daughters.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the daughters used the Find my iPhone app

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<v Speaker 1>to find her mom, and she did. A large tarp

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<v Speaker 1>covered shelter in a notorious Westlake cul de Sac that

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<v Speaker 1>is home to a homeless encampment. There was another dead

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<v Speaker 1>person in the encampment, a guy thirty nine year old man,

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<v Speaker 1>the situation, shall we say. The LAPD says that this

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<v Speaker 1>was a suspected drug overdose, and the family says.

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<v Speaker 5>That the LA was too quick to rule out foul play.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the reason the family believes there may be

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<v Speaker 3>something nefarious here is that there were a couple other

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<v Speaker 3>people in that area at the time. Just before the

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<v Speaker 3>bodies were found, they said they heard a woman screaming

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<v Speaker 3>for help very early in the morning, and the witnesses

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<v Speaker 3>the makeshift tent, but nobody really intervened. It was the

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<v Speaker 3>next day that the witnesses learned of Lucretia's death and

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that was with her. No established relationship between

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<v Speaker 3>those two anyway at this point, but Lucretia's family says

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<v Speaker 2>She was a loving mother.

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<v Speaker 3>The oldest daughter had been diagnosed with cancer three years

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<v Speaker 3>in her power to support the family. Another sister says

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<v Speaker 3>struggling and would bring clothes and food to homeless people,

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<v Speaker 5>Now the family is upset with the LAPD.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe it was a murder, that something was nefarious,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't blame the LAPD.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not my business, not my mom, it's not my family.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Look about let's look around at the environment that this

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<v Speaker 1>the area is designated as a forty one point one

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<v Speaker 1>eight Special Enforcement Zone, which prohibits people from camping in

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<v Speaker 1>the area camping. The signs were put up there in

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty twenty two, but.

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<v Speaker 5>They do no good. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been numerous reports about encampments there. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just something that goes on in several different pockets of

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<v Speaker 1>the city. This is an area that has been mired

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<v Speaker 1>in gang violence, drug use, homelessness, organized retail theft. City

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<v Speaker 1>officials say they had made progress in addressing the issue

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<v Speaker 1>and that reported crime has dropped in recent months, with

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<v Speaker 1>the exception of burglaries and break inst's.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop pull the car over right there, all the crime

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<v Speaker 2>but except that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if I live in the area and my home's

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<v Speaker 1>broken into, and they're like, no, no crimes down except

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, the break in, except for you burglaries

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<v Speaker 1>and break ins. I mean, isn't that quality of life

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<v Speaker 1>right there? What are you cracking down on people selling

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<v Speaker 1>drugs to each other? I don't care about that. This

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<v Speaker 1>is some people break it into my house for money

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<v Speaker 1>for drugs in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>This story of Lucretia brajass Is.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately exemplifies the biggest issues that come with homelessness, because

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<v Speaker 3>obviously city officials have and i'll use air quotes here,

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<v Speaker 3>tried to clear some of these encampments by helping people

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<v Speaker 3>get into housing and giving them access to support services.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they say it's more compassionate, it's compassion, But where

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<v Speaker 1>where is the compassion and letting people die from their

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<v Speaker 1>addictions and from the ridiculous environments you've allowed to flourish

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<v Speaker 1>in your city in these encampments. It's the wild wild West.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awful. Where's the compassion there? And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>point I always go back to, you're one of my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I have compassion for you. If I find out that

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<v Speaker 1>you're living in a tent downstairs and shooting up meth

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<v Speaker 1>I am not going to let you continue to do

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<v Speaker 1>that out of compassion. That's not compassion for you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not me being a friend to you. Me being a

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<v Speaker 3>And whenever we talk about this, we talk about people

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<v Speaker 2>And however it works that.

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<v Speaker 3>The carrots that they extend to these people that live

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<v Speaker 2>There has to be some stick.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not talking about the Mahogany hairwash kind of

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<v Speaker 2>But you've got to cite people.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to make it criminal again to live in

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<v Speaker 3>areas that it's illegal to live in. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>in camp that we're talking about, but that the city

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<v Speaker 3>that's not the empathetic way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>There should be a different passion, there should be a

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<v Speaker 5>It just isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You're making it comfortable for people to continue doing the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's killing them. And again, you can't force them

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<v Speaker 1>understand all that, but enabling them to just stay there

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<v Speaker 1>is not the answer. And it's not it's the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of compassion in difference. It's in difference you're indifferent to

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. And that is right up there with

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite of love.

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<v Speaker 2>That's more dangerous. Yeah, that's more dangerous. All right?

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<v Speaker 5>Are we able to talk about something good?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, it's making something good out of something tragic.

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<v Speaker 5>This is just a America, is what this is?

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<v Speaker 2>Entrepreneur?

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<v Speaker 1>You entrepreneur, Why is that word so difficult to say?

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<v Speaker 1>Entrepreneurial spirit?

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<v Speaker 2>You just said it. You sounded drunk when you said it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you said it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too long. There's too much going on there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>two there's ewes that just come at you.

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<v Speaker 2>They fly at you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right in the middle of that word, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, there's a U, there's an R, there's

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<v Speaker 3>I well, we'll go back to our remedial high school

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<v Speaker 1>I went to public school here in California, so I

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<v Speaker 4>A M six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>The monkeys, Oh, the monkey's stealing other monkeys. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>never say the word right capuchin, Yes, right, capuchin. The

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<v Speaker 1>Capuchin monkeys are stealing the howler monkeys babies.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this China?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean is this?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that the Chinese are now turning one?

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<v Speaker 3>That they have pecies of monkeys.

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<v Speaker 1>Against them, or that they have Yeah, that they have

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<v Speaker 1>mobilized the monkeys to steal other monkeys, like the way

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<v Speaker 1>they have mobilized our college students.

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<v Speaker 3>A strange story out of Switzerland. One man is missing

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<v Speaker 3>after the majority of a tiny little village in Switzerland

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<v Speaker 3>was buried after a glacier collapsed, the Birch Glacier, the

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<v Speaker 3>entire glacier collapsed. That caused a gigantic landslide. Footage showed

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<v Speaker 3>ice and mud and debris flowing near Blatton, they said,

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<v Speaker 3>about fifty five miles south of the capital of Burn.

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<v Speaker 3>They say at the bottom of the valley, huge deposit

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<v Speaker 3>of ice and rocks several dozen meters thick and approximately

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<v Speaker 3>two kilometers long, buried most of the village of Blatten.

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<v Speaker 3>The damage is considerable, adding that that one person I

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<v Speaker 3>believe to be a sixty four year old man is

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, you have a into.

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<v Speaker 1>The La County Corner's office right there off North Mission Road.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been made popular now by I believe. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's still on the air, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary show North Mission Road for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>about different cases, high profile cases that made their way

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<v Speaker 1>through the corners office Ed Winter, you remember that name.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's this like nondescript building off North Mission Road,

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<v Speaker 1>right off the five there downtown La East La area.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we'd go there for interviews and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that when we were when we were reporters and

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity would die and you would go there and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just just this run down It's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like when you go to Hollywood and you're like, this

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<v Speaker 2>This is it.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in your mind it's this big deal in

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<v Speaker 1>North Mission Road and the Ellie County Corner's Office is

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal and it's not. It's like this you know,

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<v Speaker 1>building built in the late sixties, run down and anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets a lot of media attention because of well

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<v Speaker 1>all the bodies that have.

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<v Speaker 5>Gone through there.

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<v Speaker 1>And somebody had the brilliant idea to open up a

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<v Speaker 1>Corner's gift shop, a gift store adjacent to the Corner's

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<v Speaker 1>office where visitors could grab merchandise and it would help

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<v Speaker 1>make money for an ailing office. I think the last

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<v Speaker 1>time that the Corner's Office made big news, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't for a celebrity's body where we were determining cause

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<v Speaker 1>of death and things like that. It was because they

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<v Speaker 1>were so underfunded that there were bodies stacking up in

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<v Speaker 1>the hallways.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I I remember when was I became first aware of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it was because I did it as

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<v Speaker 3>a story sometime in two thousand and four. Having not

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<v Speaker 3>been in La I didn't realize that this was a thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but it struck me at first as pretty insensitive. But

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<v Speaker 3>if you had lost somebody's anywhere in La County and

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<v Speaker 3>you realize that the corner of the tandling your loved

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<v Speaker 3>one's body is also selling T shirts with a funny

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<v Speaker 3>little chalk outline, that you might consider it insensitive. But

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<v Speaker 3>I have shied away from that feeling and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>get the idea that this is much more of somebody

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<v Speaker 3>doing a creative thing and taking advantage of what is

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<v Speaker 3>just a normal reality of a big city, which is

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<v Speaker 3>there are people who die, and there are stories that

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<v Speaker 3>can be told about them, and every once in a

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<v Speaker 3>while you can buy a T shirt. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just not necessarily a connection that the county for some

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<v Speaker 3>reason isn't taking seriously the business of death that they

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<v Speaker 5>It's pretty creepy though.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you've seen in crime scene footage, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>on the news or in documentaries or movies. You know

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<v Speaker 1>just that dark navy or or black shirt with the

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<v Speaker 1>big blood lettering of white corner on the back of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sell those shirts there.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, dark humor.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess meets Kitchie trinkets on beach towels with chalk outlines.

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<v Speaker 1>They sell piggy banks shaped like nineteen thirties Area black Mariah.

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<v Speaker 5>Hearst vans, toe tag keychains.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do like the idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the County of LA's Department of Medical Examiner.

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<v Speaker 3>This all started back when it was the County Coroner's

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<v Speaker 3>office in the they said, in the early nineties, and

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<v Speaker 3>they did a symposium. It's a big city, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the one of the largest corner's offices in the country,

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<v Speaker 3>and they would do a symposium for you know, basically

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<v Speaker 3>for people in the industry. They'd come from around the

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<v Speaker 3>country and probably from around the world to see how

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<v Speaker 3>they do it in LA. And at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>this symposium, they would give a souvenir coffee mug that

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<v Speaker 3>just had the simple logo of at the time, the

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<v Speaker 3>LA County Corner's Office. Well, that generated a lot of buzz,

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<v Speaker 3>and the people who came to the symposium the next

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<v Speaker 3>year were like, oh, are we getting Are we getting

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<v Speaker 3>those cool mugs at the end?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we get those cool mugs?

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<v Speaker 3>And they realized that maybe what they should do is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, put their foot on the gas a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit marketing wise. So they had a skeleton dressed up

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<v Speaker 3>as a detective named Sherlock Bones, and they said that

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<v Speaker 3>those those mugs flew off the shelves. And then it

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<v Speaker 3>became the idea of Marilyn Lewis. She was the one

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<v Speaker 3>who'd come up with the idea for that Sherlock Bones character.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not do this gift store adjacent to the coroner's

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<v Speaker 3>office where everybody could grab merchandise and then use the

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<v Speaker 3>money to help what is a chronically underfunded part of

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<v Speaker 3>county government, which is what they did. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how much money they're making every single year. Necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>it's not gonna be enough. They said that it nets

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<v Speaker 3>about are sorry. In nineteen ninety eight it had netted

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<v Speaker 3>about seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars per year.

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<v Speaker 1>You like to hold on to things. That's a nice

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<v Speaker 1>way of saying that you're a hoarder. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're a hoarder, but you know that you have the

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<v Speaker 1>hoarding tendencies. I think you've talked about this. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>putting words in your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a collector without clear reasoning.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So When you start saying that you're a collector,

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<v Speaker 1>you're moving into the unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 5>I have the descriptors of a hoarding.

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<v Speaker 3>When I saw this this morning, I specifically thought of

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<v Speaker 3>one very specific example of something that I had capped

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<v Speaker 3>but for no good reason. That I that I you

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<v Speaker 3>could argue collected but for no good reason.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this the quilt from the ex girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 2>That is not it? Okay, it's worse.

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<v Speaker 5>It's worse.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worse. I can't wait, Aryan Shannon will get well.

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<v Speaker 1>Just briefly, if you don't know the story, Gary had

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<v Speaker 1>an ex fiance whose mom at one point made him

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<v Speaker 1>a quilt. He broke up with the free fiance who

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<v Speaker 5>Breakup, and he kept the quilt for like years.

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<v Speaker 2>I did anything else to put on my bed?

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<v Speaker 5>On your bed?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean, where else do you put a quilt?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that so weird?

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<v Speaker 4>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>About one hundred and thirty active fires, they say, burning

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<v Speaker 3>across Canada today. A smoke from some of those wildfires

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<v Speaker 3>likely to make its way into the Upper Midwest over

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<v Speaker 3>the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Matoba. A good news story.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a new fiber optic cable has been installed

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<v Speaker 3>to try to fix the air traffic control issues around

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<v Speaker 3>Newark International Airport. Secretary Transportation Sean Duffy announced the installation

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<v Speaker 3>of the cable yesterday, said it replaces the troubled part

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<v Speaker 3>of the line between Philly and New York and the

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<v Speaker 3>good news is it should be ready for use by July.

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<v Speaker 3>So just around the corner collector for no good reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's my example. When we moved into the house that

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<v Speaker 3>we're currently in, my kids were gosh, it's like fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>twelve and fifteen something like that, and my wife was

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<v Speaker 3>was putting stuff or we're packing up an underwear drawer,

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<v Speaker 3>something like that, and as she opened my drawer she

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<v Speaker 3>found something rattling in the back and realized that I

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<v Speaker 3>had saved my children's teeth. And when asked why, I

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<v Speaker 3>had no good reason.

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<v Speaker 2>That's there. That's a bone collector reason.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I think that that's normal. I think people do

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<v Speaker 1>that it's sentimental.

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<v Speaker 3>Only because I don't know, it feels wrong to throw

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<v Speaker 3>away a baby teeth, right, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you're on my team now, I am okay.

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<v Speaker 5>In this situation. I think a lot of parents do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's weird. It's weird.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's not. I don't think it's weird. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's pretty common.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely But that doesn't mean it's not weird. It

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<v Speaker 2>is weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Why My question is why do we humans? Why do

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<v Speaker 3>we do something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a piece of your kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like, it's don't touch a hair on

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<v Speaker 1>my kid's head kind of thing. It's like your kid

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<v Speaker 1>lost at tooth. That's my kid's baby teeth. I would

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<v Speaker 1>totally keep those.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's normal.

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly believe that my I know that my mother

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<v Speaker 3>kept a clip of hair from my very first haircut,

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<v Speaker 3>like put it like scotch taped it into the baby

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<v Speaker 3>album kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the first little cutting.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom won't even let me keep a T shirt

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<v Speaker 1>in my former bedroom. My mom throws out everything, has

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<v Speaker 1>thrown out everything. I brought it up to her last

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<v Speaker 1>time I was up there. I was like, so you

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<v Speaker 1>just don't care about nostalgia. I mean, she's just thrown

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<v Speaker 1>she just throws out everything. I mean nothing remains you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she she still has all my brother stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of me. There's no record of me

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<v Speaker 1>ever existing in that home.

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<v Speaker 2>I see.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's like she called me the other day, She's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a pair of tennis shoes. I'm like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>left a pair of running shoes, if that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I had to ask if it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay to leave a pair of running shoes in her

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<v Speaker 1>home because she's had me completely take everything and get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that and you're still not getting that message?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh yeah, I should huh right, But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a lock of hair, things like that, that's all very normal.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>The quilt is much more trouble than the tilt.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but the quilt was I was a poor college student,

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<v Speaker 3>and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing about this is going to either.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's other than that. You just don't

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<v Speaker 1>throw things out. I mean it gave me.

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<v Speaker 2>The engagement ring back. I threw that out.

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<v Speaker 5>You threw it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I donated it to like goodwill or something like.

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<v Speaker 5>That, an engagement ring.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what am I going to do with it? Sell

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<v Speaker 3>it upawn it for how for twenty box up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you buy perfectly good drugs with that. Pawn money,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So there actually was a list twelve items

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<v Speaker 1>you should never throw out, according to pro organizers. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you are somebody who's a collector, we will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what it's okay to collect tools.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't throw out tools.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an easy one, right, yeah, But never get in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble for that because women never wives never really get

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<v Speaker 1>into the tool area.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, that's true, but they you can have

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<v Speaker 3>too many tools. If you have a bunch of different

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<v Speaker 3>sockets and they all fit the same thing, you can

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<v Speaker 3>overdo it with tools. But in general, if you're not

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<v Speaker 3>a tool person, like do you know where a hammer,

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<v Speaker 3>a flathead screwdriver, and a fillip screwdriver are in your house?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Those three things. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Outside of that, I mean, call somebody. But if you

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<v Speaker 3>like tools and you're handy with tools, you can keep

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is like cognitive dissonance for you

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<v Speaker 1>to say things like you can overdo it with tools

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you have a hamber on, a flathead screwdriver,

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<v Speaker 1>and a phillip screwer, you're fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Not making sense, baloney.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make any sense, and it feels wrong for

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<v Speaker 1>you to say those words.

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<v Speaker 5>Doesn't it birthday?

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<v Speaker 2>They say birthday cake candles.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like me when I'm like, no, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>another glass of wine. Just every part of me is like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>Birthday cake candles because you can ever find them. Umbrellas.

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<v Speaker 3>We have three or four umbrellas in my house and

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<v Speaker 3>I know where they are, and I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 3>used one for years.

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<v Speaker 5>But you want more, don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's just one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought a bunch of umbrellas in here. You'd take

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<v Speaker 1>them home and keep them for twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 3>We got married in December, not just this December, many

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<v Speaker 3>decembers ago. We got married in December and it rained

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<v Speaker 3>the day of our wedding. So we bought a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of big, huge golf umbrellas from Costco. We had those

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<v Speaker 3>things for twenty years. Mm hmm, because we I mean

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<v Speaker 3>in Seattle. When we moved to seattlee obviously came in

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<v Speaker 3>very handy.

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<v Speaker 5>Did they Yeah? A lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Well they were.

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't use them?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you use them?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Right some real work here today we will make our

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<v Speaker 1>way through the list throughout the day. But tools, tools

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<v Speaker 1>are good. You can you can hold onto those and umbrellas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so far, but we got twelve of those things

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<v Speaker 1>and listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead and fire off one of those talkbacks on

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<v Speaker 3>the iHeart app.

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<v Speaker 5>It works again.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but we'll see, and maybe maybe it's just me

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<v Speaker 3>that could be it too. Okay, we'll see. Gary and

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<v Speaker 3>Shannon will continue right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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