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Speaker 2: Kind Of to kick things off, I'm gonna take a
step back. When I listen to a lot, you know,
I don't listen to too much of it. I try to.
I do more reading than I know. It's hard to believe.
Even my friends are mace. I do more reading than talking.
I even't talked to myself. By the way, for those
of you who do, who have that InterVoice, you're likely
to be more creative problem solvers because you run through scenarios,
you run through you're you're constantly criticizing yourself. It's not
having a multiple personality, it's just the way your brain
kind of clicks along. So having said that, I was
doing a hike this morning and I was cogitating as
I perambulated and was thinking in terms of why we
find ourselves so far apart on a couple of things.
And to me, it's not so much partisan. It expresses
itself in Trumpian terms. It expresses itself in partisanship to
a degree, but that's not That's how it comes across.
But that is not the underlying problems. In my opinion.
This is me, so you'll just have to bear with it,
and it is that we as a nation typically endeavor
to solve great problems. Now here's the reality of what
I'm about to say on that front, is that usually,
historically speaking, we recognize the problems regardless of our perspective.
In other words, I could say, right now, all of you,
you know, left leaning democrats or leftists, you want, I
would say, you want a safe neighborhood. If you and
I were if we were neighbors, if we were neighbors
out on the street and our kids were planned, you
would want a safe neighborhood for your kids. You would
want good schools, you would want good roads, you would
want many of the same things. We would see many
of the issues. Likewise, Now, when we get to larger issues,
this is where we have a divorce. But let's go
back in time a little bit. When the Framers were
creating the country. Even Thomas Jefferson, an owner of Slaves
by the Way, recognize that the issue of slavery needed
to be dealt with. But the only way to get
the Southern States to sign it and move forward and
separate divorce from Great Britain was to not deal with
that issue. They many of them, knew this is a
problem moving forward. When we get to the eighteen sixties
and all of this was percolating up, it was an
unsustainable problem. And the divorce happened, and it was violent
and it was horrific, But the divorce happened. Whether a
state could leave the union was another one that was
tested horrifically. The issue of slavery. It gets settled. We
move forward as a nation. We recognize and then the
beauty of our nation is that we look back and go, Yep,
it was bad. We came together as a nation afterwards
and we rectified this and women's suffrage, we moved through
to civil rights. All these we recognize pretty universally that
these are problems. I mean, there's you know, fringy people
that want to push back on these things, but we
general and we move forward. Hiptop diplomacy of Vietnam horrible, terrible.
Hopefully we never do it again. Learned a lot, although
we get involved in these intractable situations in Afghanistan and
we learn a little bit. But at least we let
the military kind of deal with the targeting over in Afghanistan.
We didn't do it in a boardroom, but I digress.
We endeavored to solve great problems, the civil rights legislation
of the sixties, even the creation of the Great Society.
There was a lot of recognition across the spectrum about
what the problems we saw, we solve them. We wanted
to solve them differently, but we wanted to solve them. Nonetheless.
One of the greatest unity moments early before nine eleven
was Kennedy's Moonshot. So Kennedy comes along and in nineteen
sixty one says, hey, you know, before the end of
this decade, we endeavored to put a man on the moon.
Now he didn't say bring him home, but that was
part of the solar We had to get him there.
But we have to get him home. We're not even
going to strand him up there and thank you, mankind.
You die on the moon, but you did it. So
we had to get him there and back. So but
that was a great that was a huge endeavor that
from a technological standpoint still stands as a magnificent accomplishment
of mankind. And I say humankind for those of you
who are offended, but mankind. So we spend the better
part of that decade, and in nineteen sixteen it was
an artificial deadline, Kennedy said, by the end of this decade,
and everyone took that seriously. So we have identified the problem.
What's the problem? We want to get a man to
the moon. How do we do that? We've got when's
the timeline? End of the decade? Okay, so we got
to the end of nineteen sixty nine to get a
man on the moon and back. How do we do that?
Everyone comes together, and believe you me, they had debates,
they had disagreements. A lot of those these people that
came together to solve this problem. And you saw a
lot of that in the Apollo thirteen movie or if
you're familiar with that story, with duct tape and square
boxes and round holes and stuff like that. But the
issue was you disagree, but the goal is this. The
problem is how to get them there and back, regardless
of your background. That's you know, we didn't disagree about that,
but we start rolling forward and we get to the
point now. And it wasn't all at once that we
don't tend to recognize that certain things are problems the border.
If you lean right at all, you fully embrace and
recognize that the border situation was untenable, it was unacceptable,
it was a problem. We had hundreds of known people
on the terrorists watch lists that we encountered and caught.
We don't know how many made it into the country,
but that should have been and should be to this
day something that the political left goes, that's a problem.
We want to solve it now. What they did was
they repackaged it and put it out there for you saying, look,
Congress has a plan, and Donald Trump's trying to stop
the immigration plan. But that was too little, too late.
Number one. You know, if your boat is taking on
water and getting ready to sink, you stop the boat
from sinking before you go through the iterations of passing
a bill. You have to deal with the boat sinking first.
And that's what the executive branch tried to convince you,
the American public, we can't do anything. That's what Congress
has to do. We now know that was a lie.
We now know, I don't care what your political party
or leanings are, we know that was a lie. The
immigration situation, that the executive branch of government responsible for
securing the country lie to the American public.
Speaker 1: We don't know.
Speaker 2: We don't even know who was in charge of that lie.
We know it wasn't the president, but it was a lie.
So when you step down from the executive level and
you go, okay, well we can't seem to agree on that.
You look at the local level and you look at
big cities and rural America and this stuff. We all
heretofore agreed that we wanted safe communities, We wanted to
enforce the law. We you know, the left would say, hey,
we need to be a little more you know, sensitive
to racial issues, cultural issues, whatever, but the laws of law.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: But what we see is a divorce on that as well,
where large cities like la would say, hey or New
York cash list, fail you commit a crime, will bail
you out no cash. You know, if you steal in la.
If it's blow a thousand dollars for really, that's a mission,
We're not going to really and charge that. So those
two policies encouraged rampant criminal activity. We no longer find
ourselves in agreement with the political left on crime. So
issue after issue after issue, we find ourselves a chasm,
a grand canyon, if you will, that is both wide
and deep.
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Speaker 2: We were talking as we as I went to the
break about the concept of problem solving. You know, when
you and your significant other, if you're if you're fortunate
enough or unfortunate enough to be in one of those
situations you like to and when you are most successful
is when you're functioning as a team. And there's no
way anyone's going to convince me that any couple of
any size or model or shape gets along all the
time they do. There's some serious underlying problems there that
are being not being addressed. They generally bump up, you
kind of move forward, and when you when you find
a way to move forward, that's when you're your strongest.
That's why married couples tend to do much better financially,
is because they're moving ahead together and in society. Though,
when I went to the break, I was talking about
the situation in like La or New York where I mean,
there was a shooting in Philadelphi last night. It was
unflipp and believable, and someone taped it. I don't know
if it was a ring doorbell camera or someone on
their phone, but there were like fifteen people on a
front porch. They were like Uzzi's being pulled out. And
I didn't mean to say the word like I really
despise that in modern society's way too many. But there
were guns similar to Uzzi's, these highly automatic weapons. There
must have been, you know, eight hundred to one thousand
rounds discharged handguns going in one direction, and the other
people trying to take shelter under the brick wall of
the porch that about two and a half the climbing
over that. It was this primitive warfare with guns that
was taking place. Thousands of rounds so I didn't mean
to distract, but it's the we talk about neighborhood safety.
Nobody wants that in their neighborhood. We find ourselves in
society at this huge divorce. Not even we don't want
to be them. We're trying to keep from being divorced.
You know, you hear people saying, hey, California is just
a seed. We should cheer off the left coast, you know,
get Oregon, Washington, and California and then get rid of
some of those Northeast states. That's not the way we
solve problems. That's the ease that. It's the modern way,
isn't it. Marriages are very much not all that sacred anymore.
It was like, oh, you can do better, grass is
always greener, and and it's never it never is, oh
you can get rid of that guy, get rid of
that girl, you can do better. Oh my gosh. Look,
being single is great. It's really not. And it's usually
your single frustrated friends that will tell you stuff like that.
It's an abdication of responsibility. And I'm not saying all
because there are domestic violence situations. There are, There are
a thousand different things that cause but in general there
are a lot of them that are just people that
don't want to solve problems. They don't want to take
it seriously. There's a degree of narcissism at work. They
think they can always do better instead of pushing through
and solving the problem. And that's where we find ourselves
Republicans and Democrats in many ways. And I used to
I used to frustrate for friends and enemies, like I
guess when I would give speeches all over the state
and I would say, you ever notice that a nego.
Here's the problem with freedom, and it is that we
exist somewhat in a natural free state. You know, we're
endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, and a
lot of that is delineated in the Constitution. We have
the freedom to pursue things as long as we're not
hurting other people. You have the right to pursue free freedom, freedom, freedom, freedom, freedom.
Whenever there's a negotiation, Hey, you need to compromise. Whenever
there's a negotiating negotiations with the left. It is generally
in this way abortion being kind of the outlier here,
but speaking in terms of just absolute freedom, the compromise
with the left is always you on the right need
to give up some freedoms for us to enact our legislation.
Every compromise is about giving up. You want higher to
they want higher taxes. You want lower taxes. And when
they enact a higher tax they're encroaching on you on
property rights when they say, well, we need to enact
all these government regulations on your property, that's an erosion
of So every negotiation is an erosion of freedom in
the modern era. And I think the right has just
reached a point where we're done. We've given and given
and given, and you guys, and there's never it's never
a there's never stopping point with you. You guys never
say Okay, we're good. We don't have to deal with
this issue again. In fact, Governor Youngkin in Virginia, you
know it's not in the media here, but if you're
following politics in Virginia, he has done a phenomenal job
of gutting regulations. I think he's gone through the books
and gotten rid of about twenty five percent of all
their existing regulations on the books, which just show society
doesn't fall apart if you get rid of a lot
of those. In North Carolina, we needed to do the same.
We have many outdated regulations, many that are duplicative. We
have many that serve no useful purpose. They have many
they are outdated. Many of our environmental regulations no longer
serve the purpose of protecting you and I. They don't.
They don't protect me, they don't protect you. They're just there,
and in fact they're corrosive. So that would be a
great endeavor for Bleft and Right to go through and say, hey,
what are the regulations that no longer serve a useful purpose,
but are there nonetheless and are forcing our citizens to
comply with, which is a cost of money, which is
a boat anchor on the economy. I said that in
a long winded way, so that was kind of the
start of the show. I didn't mean to go on
that long about it, but I wanted to frame it
in a way that I felt was very fair. Public safety,
border security, even the trans issue in women's sports, that
should not be a disagreement. Anybody with enough brain capacity
to walk upright, should easily be able to say, you
know what, X Y chromosome can't compete with XX chromosome.
The advantages are too great. Period. It the political left
should say, you know what, that's a bridge too far
for even us. Let's deal with that issue and get
it off the table. But no, they can't do that,
and that's come on, Your girls are competing on I look,
if you go to lacrosse, if you've ever been to lacrosse,
can you look at seventeen year olds play lacrosse? Look
at the girls and guys. It's a chasm. It is
a vast difference. The guys are fully padded, they got
helmets on. They run faster, they throw stronger, they hit harder.
Girls across very different. They don't even wear helmets. But
you put an X Y chromoson on that field, they
will dominate, they will destroy, They will absolutely wipe the field.
And it is this shouldn't be again if you can
walk up right even again, you know you're picking on
people that can't welcoup. You pick on a governor ab
it from Texas. No, come on, let's have a little
bit more sense. You're kind of defeating of things about
being upright. So the point being, we need to get
we need to get passed some of these things. I
don't know how we do. I don't know how the
left ever comes back. They've been given such a pass
for so long that you watch these videos, they're absolutely
these people are melting down and their perspective is wrong,
their facts are wrong, their their knowledge is wrong. Maybe
it's a failure of the public education system, maybe it's
the parents, maybe it's both. But we've got it. We've
got to start solving the large problems in life, and
we've got to be on the at least the same
page where we can have the debates. If you identify
the problem, you're ninety percent on the way to solving it.
Just identify the problem, all right.
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Speaker 2: Now we were talking about, you know, big problems, and
we there's a huge chasm. We can't even agree on
what the problems are. If the left doesn't agree that
the border is a problem, how do you solve a
problem that they don't even not a problem. I don't
see what you're talking about. It's like, don't you see that,
you know, five hundred foot wave that's about to demolish
you know, your city. No, I don't see a wave.
There must be climate change, you know, this kind of
stuff that is just this detachment from reality. Now you're
welcome to be a part of things. I've got much
more to go because I want to get to where
A lot of people say, well, the AOC, Jasmine Crockett,
that wing of the party, that's not the mainstream, that's
not where the party really is. It is where there.
I don't want to believe that's where the Democrats are.
But you look at the victory of the Chicago mayor
that's moving left. You look at Mam Donnie's victory in
New York. Is a Democrat primary that's moving left. And
where does the rest of the party. What do they
have to say? Some of the stalwarts in the party,
some of the the leaders in the party, what do
they have to say? Surely, I mean Nancy Pelosi's a
fate in the party, which she's still very powerful. Chuck
Schumer hasn't rejected Mamdani uh Hakeem Jeffries, the Minority leader,
highest ranking member of Congress for the Democrats. He said,
I'm meeting with him later this week. He wouldn't. I mean,
this is a guy who's espoused taking away money and
redistributing it to other people, taxing certain people because of
just where they live and that they're white. I mean,
I couldn't believe he said that the white neighborhoods. But
he did He's going to have government run grocery stores.
He's going to take over rent control places. I mean,
if you're a property owner, your taxes are going up,
how do you pay the taxes in rent rent control?
When the rent's fixed and the government says you can't,
you can't raise your und Sorry, you get in on
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when I said that the is kind of coalescing there,
I don't just say that to be arbitrary. They literally,
they literally are coalescing around this. And I remind you
that there was a guy named Jim Clyburn, and Jim
Clyburn is the guy who really salvaged Joe Biden. When
Joe Biden was doing terrible in the primaries in twenty twenty,
Jim Clyburn said, Hey, we need to get together and
get behind Joe. And you know what, that was the beginning.
Joe then wins South Carolina after flailing in New Hampshire
and Iowa comes together. Clyburn, who in many aspects is
seen as a center left kind of guy from South Carolina.
But here's what he had to say about mam Donnie. So,
mum Donnie's an avowed Democrat socialist. It is a socialist.
I can count the number of socialist experiments that have
worked out. In fact, it's not hard. It's not even mathematic.
You could say it's not a rational number because it's zero.
It's not a prime, it's just zero. You have to count,
there's not one. And the left always says, well, we
just do a different socialism workout. It doesn't. But here's
what Cliburn had to say about Mumdani. Representative Clive from
South Carolina.
Speaker 4: Point, do you support Mamdani's candidacy as the Democratic nominee
for for Mayor of New York?
Speaker 3: Absolutely I do. I suppoth Democratic nominees. The fact of
the matter is my relationship with Cuomo goes back to
when he was Secretary of of Hood and the South
Carolina got one of those uh inmpowerment zones because of
his help. Uh it happens to be something to Columbia
empowerment zone. So just to.
Speaker 4: Be clear, uh, you support Mamdanie's running or I guess
his position as the Democratic primary winner. Is that an endorsement?
Are you endorsing him as mayor of New York City?
Speaker 3: I support the Democratic nominee.
Speaker 2: Now from you could discern from that that maybe Cliburne,
you know, the elevator didn't go to the top floor,
didn't have a full compliment of sandwiches in the picnic basket.
I don't know, pick your metaphor, but that is interesting
that he said I support the nominee, and then he
starts talking about Cuomo, and then you know, the CNN
is like, uh, so do you support him or not?
I support the nominee. Theoretically, Cliburne and mom Donnie are
light years apart. But now you've got old school Democrats embracing,
openly embracing a socialist candidate, which tells me that the
rudder has shifted, not back to the middle, not to
a more moderate perspective, not toward even a Bill Clinton
way of looking at things, but far left, toward the
Jasmine Crockett. And I think this is a problem. I mean,
I think North Carolina Democrats have done a magnificent job
of avoiding being connected to their national party. If Josh
Stein were to come out and embrace Mom Donnie, if
Jeff Jackson, they won't. And the media and this is
cowardly enough to not ask them, Hey, what do you
think about this guy? They don't have And then I
think if the media was, you know, had the courage
to ask the question, I don't think that they would
have the courage to answer it in a direct way.
That's what Democrats have this problem. They're so afraid to
offend the other members of their party. They can't just
be honest. One thing about Trump that a lot of
people like to mind refreshing is he doesn't care what
the other the other part of the party says. He's
not looking for a pole test to answer. It's just
going to give you an answer, like it or not.
That's just the way he rolls.
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Speaker 2: We don't have a lot of rational thought anymore. I mean,
for Jim Clyburn to think that, Mom, Donnie, He's going
to support the nominee no matter what I mean, Mom
Donnie's got views that are completely contrary to what Cliburn
has expressed openly and been a part of for decades.
I mean, it's just this blind adherence people say well, people,
what Trump are that way? No, no, no, no, no no. And
I can prove that MAGA nation is not a cult,
and that is the Epstein files. There's almost nobody on
the MAGA right that is pleased with Pam Bondy saying,
you know what, there's nothing to see here. I looked
at the files. Wait, Pam Bondy, you told us there
was something to see there, and now you're telling us
there's nothing to see here, which you know. And I'm
telling you they may like Trump and they're not happy
about this situation. It is not and these are not
folks to be taken for granted. And I'll guarantee you
if Trump all of a sudden did a one ay
said yeah, what, there's no problem at the border, the
hell with all his bord security crap, they would turn
on him because that's what the idea they're wed to
is that that was a problem we're going to solve.
Trump has been consistent on this. He's consistent on the
situation with NATO, He's consistent on his lack of desire
to be embroiled in more wars. I think he's going
to run into a little head win with the Ukrainian situation,
because but he's also staked out. Hey, Russia, guys just
losing it. Can't deal with him anymore. And when you
can't deal with someone anymore, we saw what happened in Iran,
didn't we. So I tell you that because Clyburn and
other Democrats have a problem, they have a serious ideological
problem moving forward. And I mentioned Josh Diine, the governor
of the state of North Carolina, has a problem Governor Cooper.
By the way, we're on the street, and from several
folks inside that I happen to know, are saying that
at a private gathering that Jeff Jackson kind of an
ap Dillon put it out there that Jeff Jackson and
others have said it too, that Jeff Jackson said Cooper's in. Well,
here's the issue, and I don't want to belabor this
one because we will talk about it later in the broadcast.
The problem for Roy Cooper getting in his entire political
career has been defined by being risk averse. I say
that because in every single instance when he ran, he
really did not face a significant challenge. He did not
face his significant child. Pat McCrory was very wounded when
he was running for a second term HB two, which
by the way, is aging better now in light of
the reality of the world we live in. But HB two,
the toll road situation in this area, then down east
with the Fisherman in the northeast part of the state.
McCrory was a very wounded first term governor facing a
very well funded challenge. Now, a lot of criticism at
Cooper at the time was that he waited too long.
He waited forever. The Democrats, when you're gonn run, when
you're gonna run, when you're gonna run, he just didn't run.
You're not gonna run. When's he gonna run. He waited
until he almost couldn't lose, and that's what he ran.
And when he ran against Stan Forrest in the middle
of covid and and at the time, Cooper's not allowing
anyone to get out, so Dan Force couldn't raise money,
couldn't get his word out. They criticized him for not
wearing a mask. They went after. It was all these
personal attacks. So Cooper really didn't have to run on
any issues. He just had to run saying I'm not
that guy, and then he's out. He did his two
terms and he's out now. This race next year, were
Cooper to enter is a very different world because he
would be subject to massive criticisms, and he's not good
at handling criticisms, and the media would ask him questions.
Because the media has been roundly, substantially and very forthrightly
criticized for not being critical. So that's a problem now.
I say that because the political left finds hisself and
I'll give you an example of where the media is
kind of waking up from a slumber and Chrystaliza not
exactly crystalize for those of you know leftist journalists, very
critical of Trump, very passive on Biden. There's no thing
to see here with Biden. Here's what he wrote just today.
This is where they're trying to get their reputations back
post number one. In the final years of his presidency,
Joe Biden's top aids and his wife Jill hid him
from the media and the public in ways that we
are only now beginning to fully grasp. So he did
a thread. If you follow social media, it's a thread.
It's one to that they're short, they're all short blasts.
The second one on Tuesday, we got another look at
how pervasive the effort to keep Biden from speaking extemporaneously
really was, and how it was continued even after his
time in the White House. There's a book penned by
Tyler Pager and two other political reporters, and it's called
twenty twenty four. It's pretty stunning, and the guy says,
when I reached mister Biden on his cell phone in
late March, he answered and agreed to talk. I mean,
this is the reporter that got through Biden's cell phone
directly to the president. No one knows how he got it,
but he got it. And when he did, you know,
Biden said, Ah, he broke his silence on his successor
to criticize the early weeks of Trump's second term. I
don't see anything he's done that's been productive. When I
ask if he had any regrets about dropping out of
the presidential race, mister Biden said in a detached tone, no,
not now. I don't spend a lot of time on regrets.
Then he hung up because he was boarding a train.
My brief conversation with Biden prompted a cascade of concerns
among his top aides. One screamed at me for calling
the former president directly. Others texted furiously trying to figure
out how I got the number. Mister Biden had seemed
open to continuing the conversation, but my subsequent calls went
straight into voicemail, and then he had an automated greeting,
and the two days later the greeting was replaced by
a message from Bryce and saying this number has been changed, disconnected,
or no longer in service. The next one truth exposed
by that anecdote from Tyler's this the Biden inner circle
simply believes that Biden himself is no longer to be
trusted in any sort of non staged interaction. Even the
left reporters have turned. They finally see the error of
their own ways.
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