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Everyone. 29 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:42.200 It's Saturday, August first, twenty twenty six. I'm Joel Danel 30 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:45.599 alongside my co host here, Greg Canner, and this is 31 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:50.920 the all Elite Conversation Club podcast for PW torch dot com. 32 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:55.239 Good morning, Joel, coming to you from beautiful Saugatuck, Michigan, 33 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.680 Western side of Michigan, taking a little nice weekend. My 34 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.840 wife was generous enough to allow me some time to 35 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:05.200 talk to you, which is nice because this is this 36 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:08.159 is a special place. It's a place where I have 37 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:11.240 Saugatuck rules And I know, you know, you may not 38 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:12.759 care about it, but I at least got to say 39 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:15.759 this is this what helps the marriages like you know, 40 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:19.120 stay like longer. Since you're nicely and newly married, is 41 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:22.400 that Saga Tuck rules are she goes into any store 42 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:25.159 she wants, she takes as long as she wants. I 43 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:27.439 put in the air pods, I listen to something. I 44 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:32.159 don't complain. I don't. I'm not impatient, and it's it's nice. 45 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:35.319 It helps. So so I'm glad to be with you 46 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:36.120 though this morning. 47 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:43.599 You're good man, Greg Canner, and even better husband. Well see, 48 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:45.759 I have the privilege of being able to see also 49 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:47.680 see your camera here, so I get to see you 50 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:50.240 walking around the outside here. I get to see the 51 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.759 nature of it, and our listeners don't uh don't get 52 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:56.680 to see you in the in the cool background scenery. 53 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.000 Yeah, it's very nice here, you know, summer's in Michigan. 54 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:03.280 In are very nice winters in Michigan and Minnesota as well. 55 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:06.680 I know you know is not so nice, but so 56 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.639 we appreciate this time of year out here for sure. 57 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:13.199 Well, Greg, we got you and I both have very 58 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:16.080 busy weekends with you just mentioning what you got going on. 59 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:18.680 I also have mentioned I got the Summer Slam, all 60 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:23.240 that stuff that's going on today, yesterday, today, tomorrow. So 61 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.000 let's before we get into the main entre of what 62 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:29.719 everybody wants to hear about which was your in person 63 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:33.000 experience at Dynamite, which I think most people have said 64 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:35.879 is one of the best Dynamites they've ever done. Let's 65 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:38.759 quick just look back at the pay per view redemption 66 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:42.120 from last Sunday and just kind of get the overall 67 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:45.759 thoughts of things. There's a lot of good matches on there. 68 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.280 I think kind of the general consensus of things, and 69 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.319 you can tell me if you agree or disagree, is that, 70 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.639 while although a very good pay per view, you know, 71 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.719 probably not the best of twenty twenty six, But that's 72 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:59.199 not really saying much. That's not much of a knock 73 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.319 onto aw onto this pay per view because the other 74 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:05.840 ones have been just so great. But I think also 75 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:09.240 the main focus here is we had a title change 76 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:13.360 where Willow Was took the Women's World Championship, and you'll 77 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:18.319 talk about that celebration that happened on Dynamite, but most 78 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:23.079 importantly is the stuff that happened in the world title match, 79 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.439 where Kenny Omega defeated Kevin Knights to retain the World 80 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:30.519 Championship as expected. But then we had the postmatch angle 81 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:34.160 there with will Osprey separating himself from the Death Riders 82 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.560 and also Kenny Omega, I guess getting confused in the moment, 83 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:41.480 or you know, being a little more self absorbed now 84 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:45.040 that he's gotten to the mountaintop and actually attacking will 85 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:49.160 Osprey even though Osprey was trying to save Omega from 86 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:50.800 an attack from the Death Riders. 87 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:52.680 Indeed. 88 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:55.759 Yeah, so I would sum up that pay per view 89 00:04:55.839 --> 00:05:01.399 as okay, good, it's funny, like you look at that, 90 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:04.240 and there was some great wrestling, there were some storyline movements. 91 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.720 All in all, it was probably one of my, you know, 92 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:11.560 least enjoyable pay per views they've ever done. But when 93 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:13.399 I say that, I don't mean I had a bad 94 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.600 time or regretted to spending the money. It just, you know, 95 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:18.839 we talked about it. It was kind of thrown together. 96 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:21.959 They had another plan that they you know, had to change, 97 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:25.160 and so it kind of just ended up what it was. 98 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:27.680 You know. I'm glad I got it. I'm glad I 99 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:31.600 watched it. I was so bummed when Willow won, as 100 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:35.879 I talked about in previous weeks. You know, well, I'll 101 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:40.439 get to how I may have changed my views after Wednesday, 102 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:44.040 But but you know, I was not wild about you know, 103 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:48.279 Jericho beating Champa in that match, and you know, the 104 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.560 hardcore match and and all that as well. So some 105 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:55.160 of the booking I wasn't thrilled about, so that probably affected, 106 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:58.240 you know, my enjoyment of it. But again, it was it, 107 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.480 you know, it was it was fine. So I was 108 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.639 a little concerned going into Wednesday, you know, So, but 109 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:06.199 I did. I did like the storyline progression at the 110 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:09.959 end with you know, Omega taking out Osprey. You know, 111 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:13.279 there's so many little callbacks and things that I miss 112 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:18.399 but seeing online, like apparently Omega did the exact same 113 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:21.199 thing to aj Styles in New Japan back in the day, 114 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:24.199 and like in the exact same way. So I, you know, 115 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:28.920 AW tries really hard to pay homage or do callbacks 116 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:31.680 and all that stuff, and probably fifty percent or less, 117 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:33.879 you know, I get and I do a podcast with you, 118 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:36.279 so I'm sure a lot of people, you know, more 119 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:38.959 people don't get it than do get it. But when 120 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:40.639 you do get it, it's kind of like, oh, that's 121 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.720 kind of cool that they did that throwback. So you know, 122 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:47.000 so okay, you know, moving on, and I was a 123 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.040 little concerned with you know, what I was going to 124 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.519 see on Wednesday leading up to it. 125 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:56.279 Yeah, they really front loaded the pay per view coming 126 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:58.639 out with that six way ladder match, so Mike Bailey 127 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:02.600 gets that homecoming being Montreal winning that number one contender 128 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:04.839 ship for the international title, which is going to happen 129 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:06.519 next week at Grand Slam Mexico. 130 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.040 Then you had that Young Bucks Death. 131 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.000 Riders match, which was very good, kind of had that 132 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:14.040 weird spot there with with kind of Nick Jackson and 133 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:17.240 Osprey like seemingly kind of bonking heads and but they 134 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.480 were selling that, but still very very good match. And 135 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:24.680 then Kyle Fletcher Bondido just another tremendous way to kick 136 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:25.680 off this pay per view. 137 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:27.600 Kind of hit the match of the night to me. 138 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:30.920 Yeah, the Kyle Fletcher Bandido And that was another one 139 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.879 where it's like I appreciated all they did and it 140 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:36.839 was so great of a match. And then but it's like, 141 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.560 at some point you want Bandido to win one of these, 142 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:41.560 you know, because we kind of you kind of knew, 143 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:44.759 you know it. They did a little you know at 144 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:46.759 the end to kind of make you think, well maybe, 145 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.399 but but yeah, for the most part, you kind of 146 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.560 knew that was predictable as far as the finish was 147 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:54.879 going to go. Mm hmm. Yeah. 148 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:56.800 The show then kind of hit a lull there with 149 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:00.680 the double Chain match. You had the TBS title match 150 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:02.480 that wasn't all that great. 151 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:03.879 You know. 152 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.920 I think that the the a W tag team to 153 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:09.639 match with Cajun Copeland versus the Death Rice was fine, 154 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:11.920 you know, it was it was fine action. I think 155 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.639 that Jericho and Champa, you know, gave more than they 156 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:19.079 had in their previous matches. But you know, they also 157 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:22.959 have the stipulation of no holds Barren Jericho doing the Painmakers, 158 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:24.360 so he's got to live up to that gimmick. 159 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.079 So yeah, I mean they did a lot for our entertainment, 160 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:28.920 you know, no doubt. I was just kind of bummed 161 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:32.960 about the you know, the the booking in that one. Yeah. 162 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.279 There's also I want to mention too that there's been 163 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:38.679 some reporting to that in the pre show that they 164 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:42.600 had an honorary segment for the for the Raugau family, 165 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.120 and you know, as if you watch the pre show, 166 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:49.480 you saw that Jacques Rougeau was booed during that and 167 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:53.279 also apparently there's some reporting here I believe it's from 168 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:56.759 Wrestling Observer newsletter where Dave Meltzer was saying that I 169 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:00.759 guess Jacques Rougeau came to the event with a video 170 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.679 package that he wanted to have played for this segment, 171 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:08.320 and AW ultimately shut it down understandably, so they got 172 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:10.320 a They have a whole show that they have booked out, 173 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:13.879 so they can't be adding things on the fly into it. 174 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.320 And I guess that they didn't have rights to some music, 175 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.039 some footage that there was some AI stuff in there 176 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:22.519 as well. It was too long, so Chakhrujo was not 177 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.960 happy about it. Uh, and then goes out there and 178 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:28.759 gets booed because he has a bad reputation within the community. 179 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:31.240 Yeah, I was reading that. 180 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:34.200 I was thinking to myself, Yeah, that that all tracks, man. 181 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:35.200 I mean, everything you've. 182 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:40.639 Heard about about the Mounty has always been, uh, you know, 183 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:41.720 not the best guy. 184 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.960 And listen, you know, I rights are a big deal. 185 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:47.200 You can't just come in with some video that has 186 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:50.799 apparently has AI and music, you know, rights that AW 187 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:51.320 doesn't have. 188 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:53.120 One would have to pay for and. 189 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:55.000 You know, you pay a lot more if you run 190 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:57.759 it and then you get caught or someone you know 191 00:09:57.879 --> 00:10:02.200 comes at you. So it's like, yeah, brainer, And apparently 192 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.600 according to that, he kind of had a meltdown. That's 193 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:10.000 like wow, you know, sorry man, but I enjoyed that segment. 194 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:10.720 I enjoy it. 195 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:13.759 It's again it was another regardless of what happened backstage, 196 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:19.080 it was another example of aw honoring legends if you 197 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:21.519 want to call them legends, but at least you know 198 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:26.879 Montreal legends, and and you know, honoring people from the 199 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:29.440 areas that they're visiting that they want to, you know, 200 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.399 just pay tribute to. 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Check out the lineup. 219 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:28.000 Go to Patreon and search pw Torch and subscribe and 220 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.200 sync it up with Spotify or stay within the Patreon ecosystem. 221 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:32.200 Either way works. 222 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.440 Go to Patreon and start your seven day free trial. 223 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:39.080 I think what they showed here is that, you know, 224 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:43.320 Montreal has all this history of wrestling, but segueing into 225 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.600 this past Wednesday's Dynamite is that it felt like it 226 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.759 was a bigger building. Crowd was still engaged. But man, Detroit, 227 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:54.639 your your current hometown. 228 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:57.320 Is where they need to be having a pay per 229 00:11:57.399 --> 00:11:57.799 view there. 230 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:01.840 I mean, I'm assuming you haven't watched the broadcast at 231 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:03.600 this point because of time constraints. 232 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.960 Obviously I watched some of it. I've watched some of 233 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.159 it a couple of couple of segments because I was curious, 234 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:12.399 at least, especially before talking to you, how some of 235 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:15.200 it came across, and also some of the commentary, because 236 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:19.759 obviously you know we're hearing no commentary we're glancing. We're 237 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:22.000 glancing over at one point and seeing a shark dancing 238 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:26.399 behind the announced desk and wondering. I all I was 239 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:29.600 wondering was what is Tash saying or what is the 240 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:31.559 look on his face while this is happening, because I 241 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:33.519 you know, it's glorious. 242 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:38.200 Yeah, there's always well the segue or the little peace 243 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:41.279 on that is it's always like, oh, it's shark Week. 244 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:43.799 That's that's still a thing, and that happens once a 245 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.120 year and all of a sudden it just pops up 246 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:46.919 out of nowhere and. 247 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:52.679 You're like, huh, huh, okay, you know anyway, yes, yes, anyway. 248 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.360 So they they talked about the crowd and how loud 249 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:58.759 and engaged they were throughout the whole night. I mean, 250 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.879 the commentary team just could not believe how loud they were, 251 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:04.960 and it came across in the broadcast and made for 252 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.559 an excellent environment for it. I mean, that Grant, that 253 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.519 Masonic temple that's there in Detroit, it just looks really 254 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.879 good on television because it has some depth to the 255 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:20.000 rose too, where some of these smaller buildings just kind 256 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:23.320 of either go straight up or there's just not very 257 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:26.559 many rows to go back, but there's a lot more depth, 258 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:31.000 and so the way that it captures that sound just. 259 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:34.480 It looks good. It sounds really good in there. 260 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:37.480 And then with all the angles that they had to 261 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:40.320 shoot to kick off the road to all in, I 262 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:43.639 mean just everything really clicked well. So with that setup, 263 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:45.879 I just kind of want you now to kind of 264 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:49.279 take the wheel here, Greg as to your experience, anything 265 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.120 that you want to note from it, and then obviously 266 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:53.519 let's get into the major segments on the show. 267 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:55.159 Yeah, no doubt. 268 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.240 So yeah. 269 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:58.279 So you know, it was funny because coming off of 270 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:00.240 the pay per view and with the MAC which is 271 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.600 you know, the multiman matches, which I kind of expected 272 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:05.159 because usually coming off of a pay per view, you know, 273 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:08.879 Tony doesn't know the injury situations with you know, the 274 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:11.279 guys that obviously go all out for the pay per views. 275 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:12.960 So I knew we were going to get a lot 276 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:15.440 of those type of matches. I wasn't sure whether we 277 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:17.159 were gonna you know, it says you're gonna hear from 278 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:21.000 Kenny Omega. I didn't know, you know, was Osbury gonna 279 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:24.519 be there? How are they really gonna you know, forward things? Oh, 280 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:26.919 there's a Willow celebration. I was like, great, you know, 281 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:29.799 hope someone beats her up. That's like my mentality going 282 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:32.840 into it was and nothing, you know, I just I 283 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:35.480 was kind of tired of the Willow character, as anyone 284 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:38.200 who's listened to our podcast. I was just thinking to myself, Oh, 285 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:40.360 I don't want to see her in Mercedes again. And 286 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:43.399 all in this was my you know, my thought going in. 287 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:47.600 So I already could tell because I went last year, 288 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:54.039 same venue, there were six hundred fewer people last year. 289 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:57.360 Still a lot of people there end up being like 290 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:00.919 twenty nine hundred or something like that last year. And 291 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:03.480 we had a great time and it was cool because 292 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:06.279 the venue is a lot you know, mostly for concerts 293 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.919 and things like that. You know, so you're you know, 294 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:12.559 you're you're acoustics are good. You know, you're there's no 295 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:14.480 bad seat in the house. You know, you're really like 296 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:16.120 on top of it, I was second row in the 297 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:17.879 balcony and it was perfect. 298 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:19.279 You could see perfectly. 299 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:23.559 So we're walking to the venue and there's a line, 300 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:26.440 you know, to get in and you know, we weren't 301 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:28.720 later anything. You're you know, normal like an hour before 302 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:32.440 or so, and there's a line that literally went like 303 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:38.840 around the corner and three blocks down, which I was like, wow, okay, 304 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:41.600 like you know, here the aw's and you know, kind 305 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:44.120 of improved. People are more into it now than they 306 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:47.000 were last year. This might be a really good crowd. 307 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:49.639 So weight line, it moved fine. We were in a 308 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:52.720 good half hour before the show started. We're probably a 309 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.399 little more uh sat down. First thing we got is 310 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:00.480 a dark match with Rhino Detroit native. So he out 311 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.679 and You're like, okay, you know, first I Nick Camarado 312 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:06.759 comes out and starts healing on the crowd, very cliche like, 313 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:08.240 and then said, you know, I put an rope a 314 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:11.840 challenge to anyone from Detroit, and then of course I 315 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:14.320 was like, oh I know, and then Gore happens, and 316 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:17.639 the crowd that was there which is probably three quarters, 317 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:20.279 were in their seats at that point like white nuts, 318 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.039 and I'm like, okay, you know, this is a dark match. 319 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:25.399 Yes it's a local guy, a local legend guy, but 320 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.879 still you know. Second Matt dark match was a Bang 321 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:37.399 Bang Gang tag match against the three Jobbers, So and 322 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.399 that got a lot of like guns up chance and 323 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:43.519 all this stuff and thinking okay, okay, and then when 324 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:48.120 the show started you it was you know, I said, 325 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.279 you know, Wade mentioned it multiple times because they wrote 326 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:54.000 him an email on their post show. The entire thing 327 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:58.120 was the coolest atmosphere for wrestling I've ever been in. 328 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:03.879 And you know, I was at WrestleMania, you know, twenty three, 329 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:08.200 twenty yeah, whenever, that was so, you know, but yeah, 330 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:10.559 so it was like the you know, and I've been 331 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:12.480 to you know, some events, obviously, you know you have 332 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:15.039 been to you know, many, many more than I. But 333 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:16.960 but the ones that I've been to in person, this 334 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:20.839 is just because everybody was engaged. There was not one 335 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:24.799 portion of the show, even the interview segments that were 336 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:28.279 people weren't engaged. That opening match with Andrade and Jack 337 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:32.279 Perry and Nick Wayne was unbelievable. They went all out 338 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:34.359 in a match that you were kind of thinking, all right, 339 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:35.279 it's a three way match. 340 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:36.720 But I'm sitting next to one. 341 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:38.759 Guy you know who came with the group I was 342 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:41.720 with that you know, isn't really a huge wrestling fan. 343 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:44.119 You know, he likes it enough to go, but doesn't 344 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:46.680 really follow, and he's on the edge of his seat. 345 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.480 The ones, you know, the one part. 346 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:53.680 Where Perry and Wayne both did outside the ring crazy, 347 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:56.559 you know, ridiculous spots. They were like out of their 348 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:01.640 seat crazy. The crowd was nuts, and that just set 349 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:03.480 the tone for the whole night. 350 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:06.559 I'll take a pause here for a second so I 351 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:07.079 can breathe. 352 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:10.319 Yeah, well, I'll jump in and just say that, Yeah, 353 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:13.000 I mean the atmosphere of everything. And so what I 354 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:15.599 also heard too, Greg, and you can chime in if 355 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:17.920 you stuck around for this, is that I guess at 356 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:20.119 the end of the show, you know, Tony kind of 357 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:23.519 comes out and says his pretty you know, generic things, 358 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:26.640 who's been here before, who was here on our last show, 359 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:29.119 who's here for the first time? We should bring a 360 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:31.880 pay per view here? And what I've heard is that 361 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:34.359 in this one, it just there was something about that 362 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.200 felt a lot more authentic about it that where Tony 363 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:40.880 was very excited about the prospect of bringing a pay 364 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:43.400 per view here and the reporting on it. Because people 365 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:46.319 have asked certainly about like why why not Detroit, because 366 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:48.319 you and I have asked the same question that it 367 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:51.279 just doesn't really make a lot of sense. Is that 368 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.960 I guess that Tony has been trying to get a 369 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:57.599 date there at the Little Caesars Arena but it's been 370 00:18:57.640 --> 00:18:59.920 a challenge to secure a date there. And he did 371 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.319 mentioned that arena by name at the end of it. 372 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.640 And I guess with WWE's contracts of kind of their 373 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:09.400 in and outclause of that there can only be so 374 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:12.480 much time before they go there, so much time afterwards 375 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:15.359 that that's been a challenge for Tony to secure a date. 376 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.319 Was was this year read as well? And did you 377 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.240 did you stick around for that? For Tony to say that. 378 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:25.119 One hundred and it teaches you and all the listeners 379 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:28.279 a valuable lesson to always read all of your texts, 380 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:30.839 because I because I sent you the video of Tony 381 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:37.559 talking afterwards, uh throwing Joel under the bus. But anyway, 382 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:39.440 so you can go back and listen to it actually 383 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:42.359 finding your text and when we're done. But anyway, yes, 384 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:44.759 I stuck around. Obviously I recorded it because I wanted 385 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:47.839 to send it to you. And yes, I mean he 386 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:50.519 definitely said all of the things that you normally sad, 387 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:55.880 But there was something special because there were multiple pay 388 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:58.839 per view chances drout the night during commercial breaks and things, 389 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:02.640 you know, and just and Roberts at one point was. 390 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:07.279 The chance pay per view or was that World's end World. 391 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:12.880 It was pay per view. Yeah, but you know, as as. 392 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.200 We have speculated on our show, you know when it's 393 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:18.799 come up, is you know, the only big venue that 394 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:21.640 would have that could house a pay per view, uh 395 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.799 truly would be Little Caesars Arena in Detroit, and they 396 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:28.960 house the Red Wings and the Pistons, and there's a 397 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:31.759 new women's hockey team there and they do concerts and 398 00:20:31.799 --> 00:20:34.720 they do you know, some WWE as you said, when 399 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:37.880 they come here, and so it's got to be very 400 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:41.319 difficult to you know, plan something even like World's End. 401 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.119