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Speaker 1: today former LAPD detective Mike Cadello, who's been on the
Speaker 1: show before. We just repeated the show. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, in the past month, I got so much response.
Speaker 1: Everybody says, hey, ed, bring them back. So and then
Speaker 1: I heard from Jim Rodstein. He says, hey, ED, give
Speaker 1: me Mike's phone number, And so Mike gets more attention
Speaker 1: around here than I do. Mike's the outher of the
Speaker 1: is the other of the book. Alphaville nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1: Welcome to what is it again? Welcome to what?
Speaker 3: Welcome to Heroin City.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Heroin City. Alphaville, nineteen eighty eight. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Heroin City. Hey, Mike, remind the audience who is Mike Cadella?
Speaker 4: Okay, So I retired NYPD detective sergeant. I came on
Speaker 4: the job back in nineteen eighty three. I've retired in
Speaker 4: two thousand and three after twenty years. And I, of course,
Speaker 4: like everyone else, saw that as a regular cop and
Speaker 4: was promoted eventually to uh sergeant of detectives.
Speaker 1: And you're living in Staten Island now, I'm in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, okay, But but you were living in Staten Island.
Speaker 4: Right for a short time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, so give us it. You had
Speaker 1: you on the show last time because you were talking
Speaker 1: about I guess you contacted me. You wanted to get
Speaker 1: a hold of MARITORI originally.
Speaker 3: You know, remember who I wanted?
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't remember. Possibly, yeah, I I to be honest,
Speaker 4: I don't remember what for me as I contacted you,
Speaker 4: But I listened to your show several times and I
Speaker 4: had some thoughts and I was actually involved with this
Speaker 4: the son of same investigation, of course years later after
Speaker 4: Burkwood's been invested. But I contacted you, and you were
Speaker 4: kind of to reach out to me. We spoke and
Speaker 4: eventually were again nice enough to let me on your show.
Speaker 1: And did you ever wind up talking to Monterry.
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: I had spoken to years years ago when I was
Speaker 4: involved with the investigation with the Berkwitz the Processed Church
Speaker 4: investigation back probably in nineteen ninety five ninety six.
Speaker 1: I would sorry, okay, and can you remind us exactly
Speaker 1: what was your involvement with the investigation of the process Church.
Speaker 4: Well, at the time, I was working for the NYPG,
Speaker 4: working with the I was in the NYPD as a
Speaker 4: sergeant and I was the Missing Person squad. And what
Speaker 4: happened was we received the call or I received the
Speaker 4: call from an inmate at Attica from Attica asking to
Speaker 4: speak to me. When I went on, when I answered
Speaker 4: the call, it appeared that this individual, who was an
Speaker 4: inmate Attica, wanted to give me information regarding his knowledge
Speaker 4: and I guess you could say involvement with the Processed
Speaker 4: Church and the.
Speaker 3: Bur Burke Berklewitz call. And he had a lot of information.
Speaker 4: We went up to see him, and my involvement stemmed
Speaker 4: from this initial meeting with this inmate.
Speaker 1: From Attica, and this was regarding the adoption of a
Speaker 1: young child in New York City. It was a very
Speaker 1: high profile case.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, when we went up to when we went
Speaker 4: up to Attica, I was met by this individual name
Speaker 4: his nickname Time, I mean, that's what they called him, because, uh,
Speaker 4: he was at anything but tiny. He was a really big,
Speaker 4: kind of an unusual looking dude. And by that I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, most people we see in the street or
Speaker 4: we see in everyday life looks somewhat like someone you
Speaker 4: might know or resembles, you know, someone who's not unusual.
Speaker 4: Tiny was a different kind of person. He was exceptionally big.
Speaker 4: He had really really strange looking eyes. You couldn't really
Speaker 4: tell what nationality or race he was. He was just
Speaker 4: a strange kind of guy all the way around, not
Speaker 4: only in looks but in the way he carried himself.
Speaker 4: And he went on after the initial meeting Coup in Antica,
Speaker 4: he went on to tell me about how he and
Speaker 4: he was He was a vice president of a motorcycle
Speaker 4: gang before being arrested, and how he and his motorcycle
Speaker 4: gang or club would do security at houses up in
Speaker 4: west Chester and Yankes, New York for a cult and
Speaker 4: that cult was the processed church, and what they would
Speaker 4: basically do is they would secure the area or the
Speaker 4: house houses where where the cults was doing. Saying that
Speaker 4: fans is like sacrifices and just other kind of I
Speaker 4: don't know, other kind of a cult activities, and eventually
Speaker 4: him and other members of his biker gang ingratiated themselves
Speaker 4: with this particular cult in these particular people, and they
Speaker 4: allowed him and some of his biker guys to come
Speaker 4: in and join in the activities that this cult was performing.
Speaker 1: And what kind of information did he give you.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing the thing initially he had told us
Speaker 4: about a missing like you like you stayd They've been
Speaker 4: back in the in the mid to the late seventies,
Speaker 4: missing kids from New York City, a very high profile case.
Speaker 4: And in one of the instances where he was doing
Speaker 4: the security him in his motorcycle gang, he was allowed
Speaker 4: in and what he observed, according to him, was the
Speaker 4: high priest of the cult called up this particular kid
Speaker 4: by name. The kid was led up to the author
Speaker 4: in this mansion.
Speaker 3: Up in Westchester young kids.
Speaker 4: The kid was led up to the author, he was measured,
Speaker 4: and they performed some kind of ritual on him. And
Speaker 4: then according to Tiny, who at the time, takes himself
Speaker 4: out of the situation. In other words, he says he
Speaker 4: left at this particular time, but he had heard that
Speaker 4: they sacrificed the young boy on a makeshift author in
Speaker 4: the house Now that was his initial Our initial conversation
Speaker 4: was that was his let's say, let's say, the main.
Speaker 3: Thing that he was going to tell us about his involvement.
Speaker 4: And then later on he spoke about Berkelewoods and other
Speaker 4: members of the cult, the process serfs, and the son
Speaker 4: of Sam killing.
Speaker 1: Now Tiny told you that this boy who had it
Speaker 1: was a big story back in New York. That this
Speaker 1: boy who was abducted had been kept alive for some
Speaker 1: time and passed around amongst the cult members and then
Speaker 1: ultimately quite a while later, was killed.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Yeah, I don't remember exactly, but it was
Speaker 4: some time later they eventually, uh performed this sacrifice of.
Speaker 1: The kids and the public. The young boy's body has
Speaker 1: never been recovered.
Speaker 4: No, the boy's body has never been recovered.
Speaker 1: Okay, I know you don't want to go into details
Speaker 1: about this because you're concerned about the boy's family.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still feel that, you know, it's kind of know,
Speaker 4: you never get over losing a child, obviously, and I
Speaker 4: think at this point they've they're kind of a piece
Speaker 4: with with I don't want to say the results, they're
Speaker 4: kind of a piece with what they believe happened. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I'd rather not, I mean, get him get too explicit
Speaker 4: on who the missing kid was.
Speaker 1: What was Tiny's motivation for contacting you and telling you
Speaker 1: the story.
Speaker 4: Well, at the time, Tiny was in Attica in jail
Speaker 4: for sexual abuse of minus I mean being his own children,
Speaker 4: and he was facing a lot of time. However, he
Speaker 4: was up for parole eventually, and he was looking to
Speaker 4: get out and work with the police and and uh
Speaker 4: so he was basically looking to work off.
Speaker 3: Up in Attica.
Speaker 1: And where is he today today?
Speaker 4: He's out? He did, he did, We never got on
Speaker 4: paroled and he did his time. In fact years I
Speaker 4: ran into him when when I was actually working in
Speaker 4: the Secret Service pass Force, one of the other divisions,
Speaker 4: or one of the other groups in the Secret Service,
Speaker 4: excuse me, one of the other groups in the Secret
Speaker 4: Service were doing a case and they had they had
Speaker 4: an informant that was going to lead them to some
Speaker 4: kind of counselor thing. Secret Service at the time was
Speaker 4: under the Treasury, so they worked a lot of counselor cases.
Speaker 4: They needed somebody to go up with as a Tiny
Speaker 4: is going to do the buy, but they wanted an
Speaker 4: agent to go up with them, and they asked me
Speaker 4: to go up as an undercover with with China. Of
Speaker 4: course it had been years. It was probably probably I
Speaker 4: don't know, four or five years later.
Speaker 3: And I arrive.
Speaker 4: At the scene and I get in the backseat of
Speaker 4: the car, and who's the informant that's going to go
Speaker 4: make the buy. It's this individual Chiny. And the deal
Speaker 4: never went went through though, so it never happened.
Speaker 1: Okay, But now you were working trying to help him
Speaker 1: get parole. Say that again, Yeah, I thought I heard
Speaker 1: you saying something like you're trying to help him get parole.
Speaker 3: We wanted to try to get him parole and see
Speaker 3: if he could work with us, but it was denied.
Speaker 4: Well, the whole case I shut down basically, so we
Speaker 4: never we never got to we never got him out
Speaker 4: on parole.
Speaker 1: Now, okay, and so now I missed it. Did When
Speaker 1: was the last time we talked to Tiny?
Speaker 4: The last time I spoke to Tiny was right after
Speaker 4: nine to eleven because in jail. So when I met
Speaker 4: him with Seek the Service, that was probably I want
Speaker 4: to say, maybe early two thousand and one, maybe maybe
Speaker 4: at the end of two thousand, uh.
Speaker 3: And I took.
Speaker 4: His number and right after night and he had become
Speaker 4: a Muslim or you know, his thing was he never
Speaker 4: really didn't become a Muslim, but in the Can he
Speaker 4: became a Muslim because they eat better and you know,
Speaker 4: certain they get privileges that other inmates don't get. So
Speaker 4: in the Can he was in the places of becoming
Speaker 4: a Muslim or at least acting like a Muslim. So
Speaker 4: after then eleven, I remember that he tried to become
Speaker 4: a Muslim. So I called him up to see if
Speaker 4: he would be able to work, you know, with the
Speaker 4: FBI regarding the terrorists, and so I hooked him up with.
Speaker 3: Some FBI people.
Speaker 1: Okay, because in September eleventh, two thousand and one, you
Speaker 1: were still a cop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a sergeant working at the time with
Speaker 4: the Secret Service.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was a supervisor for secret with Secret Service. I
Speaker 4: was the supervisor of what the Cold Electron and Climbed
Speaker 4: Sales Force and the West African Task Force it was
Speaker 4: that did the I wasn't in charge of any kind
Speaker 4: of protection of any kind of dignitaries. It was probably
Speaker 4: investigation to investigation uns.
Speaker 1: I guess the West African one was investigating those Nigerian scams.
Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of Nigerian scams a lot of banks
Speaker 4: for that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right around that time, I was helping my friend of
Speaker 1: mine get a passport in the Nigerian They needed a
Speaker 1: visa stamp in the Nigerian embassy and I went in
Speaker 1: there and they got ahold of my name and my
Speaker 1: fax machine number. It's all these facts. But it was
Speaker 1: before the years of that, you know. I used to
Speaker 1: do it by facts back in those days. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they never got any money out of me. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it was they were working right there out of the embassy.
Speaker 1: They had to because it was the only way they
Speaker 1: can get my fax number.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now since we talked last time, you've gone back
Speaker 1: and you've you've done some more work on this. What
Speaker 1: have you been working on?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I've started to do a lot more
Speaker 4: investigation as I've retired, and I kind of hit a
Speaker 4: lot of walls, a lot of you know, berkeweights in
Speaker 4: the and his I want to say, his associates or
Speaker 4: the people he dealt with, a lot of them are
Speaker 4: dead at this point, are just old and you know,
Speaker 4: out of New York and so nothing, a lot of
Speaker 4: dead ends. However, after I was unusual. Last time I
Speaker 4: gave my email out and I reuslyved the bunch of
Speaker 4: emails hit on there from people that thought they knew
Speaker 4: something that could help.
Speaker 3: Or hope that they could help.
Speaker 4: But probably the beginning, I want to say, the beginning
Speaker 4: of last summer, I got a kind of an unusual email.
Speaker 4: Excuse me. We traded emails a couple of times, and
Speaker 4: basically it was from an individual that want wanted to meet.
Speaker 4: And he was kind of very specific about me coming
Speaker 4: alone and you know, not recording him. You know, he
Speaker 4: was real safe and a little bit hinked up, kind
Speaker 4: of nervous.
Speaker 3: So we met over.
Speaker 4: In the hand at a diner and he gave me
Speaker 4: information that well, let me say this, he gave me information.
Speaker 3: That was verifiable.
Speaker 4: However, he didn't give me everything, and he said we
Speaker 4: would meet again. I guess it was more of a
Speaker 4: feeling out process for him, for him to understand that
Speaker 4: I wasn't looking to arrest him or have him arrested
Speaker 4: or have him jammed up. And he was in the
Speaker 4: he was involved in the in the Processed church, and
Speaker 4: he was from that west Chester Younkers area. He knew
Speaker 4: a lot of individuals. He had forced paths with Berkewoods,
Speaker 4: and he actually knew members of the biker gang.
Speaker 3: He verified himself.
Speaker 4: About the biker game that I didn't let anyone really know,
Speaker 4: and so he was he was someone with some kind
Speaker 4: of intimate knowledge. However, we only met that one time,
Speaker 4: and I, like I said, he was exceptionally uh nervous
Speaker 4: and in fact, at the meeting, well, I said, meeting.
Speaker 4: You know, we were just having coffee after we sat
Speaker 4: in the diner. When he got up, he kind of
Speaker 4: wiped down all the instruments utensils he was eating with
Speaker 4: with a napkin. So I guess he assumed I was
Speaker 4: looking to get his fingerprint and identify him, which I
Speaker 4: would love to have done, but that wasn't my you know,
Speaker 4: my I wasn't going to do that. I told him,
Speaker 4: I you know, I wasn't going to try to identify him.
Speaker 4: But he was just a real nervous, safe kind of guy.
Speaker 4: And I don't know, we just met that one time,
Speaker 4: and he has a best up for me.
Speaker 1: Again, Okay, that's interesting, now, he was you were never
Speaker 1: identifying who he was?
Speaker 4: No, I mean, you know, I told him I wouldn't
Speaker 4: and I never did, and you know when we're going
Speaker 4: to meet again, and we never did you know he
Speaker 4: was going to reach out to me.
Speaker 3: And we would talk again.
Speaker 4: He seemed to he seemed to be happy to way
Speaker 4: the way the meeting went, or the supposed lunch went.
Speaker 4: But you know, maybe he thought twice about it, or
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, to be honest.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now, and he reached out to you because
Speaker 1: he heard your email address on this show.
Speaker 4: Yes, you you allowed me to get my email out
Speaker 4: and I got you know, I got email from you know,
Speaker 4: like anything else, I get emails from people that are
Speaker 4: just looking to, I don't know, write an email to someone.
Speaker 4: And some people thought they could help. Others knew they
Speaker 4: couldn't help and just wanted to write. And he obviously
Speaker 4: has some hats. And it took a while because this
Speaker 4: only happened at the beginning of the summer, which I
Speaker 4: think was probably by the years since you and I
Speaker 4: had spoken, So he held on to or he I
Speaker 4: guess he had been on emailing me for about a
Speaker 4: year or so, and then he eventually did it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, did he tell you that he had spoken
Speaker 1: to Maury Terry or James Rustein or anything like that
Speaker 1: or other people.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, he I you know, he did not
Speaker 4: speak to anyone, you know, he told me that.
Speaker 1: Okay. Now, and since he did an interview here with me,
Speaker 1: have you done any other any other shows, any other
Speaker 1: interviews about the top it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right now. So then now, after you and
Speaker 1: I I repeated your show just recently and Jim Rothstein
Speaker 1: reached out, did you wind up talking to him?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I had spoken to Jim.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he had remembered.
Speaker 4: I had spoken to him several times before, you know, uh,
Speaker 4: before before the SLASHT call, which was I don't know,
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, and Jim had some you know,
Speaker 4: had some information was actually helpful.
Speaker 3: One was an informat that I had.
Speaker 4: Interviews back in ninety seven, and I couldn't think of
Speaker 4: the guy's name. You know, a lot of my notes,
Speaker 4: not a lot, all my notes burned down in the
Speaker 4: World Trade Center, my office, the Secret Services and seven
Speaker 4: World Trade Center, so I lost everything, you know, not
Speaker 4: nothing survived.
Speaker 3: So there was a couple of.
Speaker 4: People that I remembered, However, I didn't remember that full
Speaker 4: names or their addresses. And one of the guys was
Speaker 4: a guy that Jim, Jim knew his nickname was Ace
Speaker 4: and he you know, he knew the whole name and
Speaker 4: Mont he said it. I'm like that, I've been trying
Speaker 4: to find this guy, but he's since the deceased.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Okay, well, let's say a little commercial break and
Speaker 1: we get we get back. We're gonna talk more with
Speaker 1: Mike Cadella, author of Alphaville nineteen eighty eight. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Heroin City, and we'll get some more information from Mike
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Speaker 1: is Alphaville in nineteen eighty eight. Welcome to Heroin City. Now, Mike,
Speaker 1: you mentioned you worked in Building seven, right, and now
Speaker 1: that's where they had that big response center. You know,
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be this big, you know, with
Speaker 1: all these flat screen TVs and stuff like that. Did
Speaker 1: you ever see that to a command center?
Speaker 4: I think that was supposed to be, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 4: in the basement of the building. So no, I'm never
Speaker 4: I you know, I've never seen it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, because I had actually heard that it was
Speaker 1: just used for just for like press conferences and it
Speaker 1: wasn't the real command center. That they just would invite
Speaker 1: the press in there and take pictures of their computers
Speaker 1: and their flat screen TVs. But the real command center
Speaker 1: was someplace else.
Speaker 4: Se Yeah, I never heard.
Speaker 3: To be honest, I never heard that, Okay.
Speaker 4: All I heard about that it was the command center
Speaker 4: and it was a foolish move, you know, at the time,
Speaker 4: people you know, criticizing it for being there and thinking
Speaker 4: that that would be a target and I wasn't a
Speaker 4: small place for it, but you know, I don't that's
Speaker 4: I don't know if.
Speaker 3: It was or it wasn't there, all right.
Speaker 1: And also too, there was like a big tank of
Speaker 1: like gasoline or carosen kind of fuel was was kept
Speaker 1: in that building, right right, Yeah, supposedly, So you were there,
Speaker 1: and I say that building that collapsed.
Speaker 4: I was actually in the building that came down first.
Speaker 3: What happened was.
Speaker 4: I was I got to work, and I believe both
Speaker 4: planes are already hit by the time I got to work. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they both planes are already hit. And I was actually
Speaker 4: stuck in the book com Battery tunnel and a fire
Speaker 4: truck you know with life sirens of course, was making
Speaker 4: its way through the tunnel, and I was in and
Speaker 4: unmarked a vehicle, and I put my cherry on the
Speaker 4: car and I was able to let's say, right behind
Speaker 4: it the fire truck and make it through the tunnel.
Speaker 4: And I parked literally right outside the tunnel because it
Speaker 4: was jammed up.
Speaker 3: So I just pulled all the park on the sidewalk.
Speaker 4: And ran over to the building. And my goal was
Speaker 4: to help people come out of help people out of
Speaker 4: the building. And as I was helping people out of
Speaker 4: the building, the building started to come down. So I
Speaker 4: was actually in the building when when it came down.
Speaker 1: And you were able to run away far enough that
Speaker 1: did all of the breeding collapse on your head?
Speaker 4: I mean I ran, but as Dick collapsed on my head,
Speaker 4: I looked really like those people you've seen in.
Speaker 3: The news with all the whites of Farmersmuh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was pretty banged up. It was. It was.
Speaker 4: It was a tough tough day, tough morning, everyone, not
Speaker 4: just me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well no, We've had a bunch of guests
Speaker 1: on the show talking about this, you know. And then
Speaker 1: where then when Building seven came down? Did you ever
Speaker 1: expect the Building seven to come down?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: It was it was on fire for such a long time.
Speaker 4: I mean I never expected to come down like that.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think anybody did, to be honest,
Speaker 4: But you know, the whole thing is strange, you know.
Speaker 4: At that's what I can say.
Speaker 1: Right, And a lot of people who showed up firemen
Speaker 1: and cop and stuff like that that showed up to
Speaker 1: those hearings back in New York city. When they were
Speaker 1: having those hearings every morning on n Y TV, they
Speaker 1: was being disrupted all the time. People were saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: what the hell was going on? People could just confused
Speaker 1: as you Now, what about people who say that it
Speaker 1: had to be some kind of controlled demolition to take
Speaker 1: down Building seven? Do you think that's possible?
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's possible.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say with the certainty that other people say with.
Speaker 4: You know, some people slay by it, and they have
Speaker 4: all these you know, all these scientific facts. But I
Speaker 4: don't believe that anyone with any kind of scarce could
Speaker 4: say one way or the other.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just.
Speaker 4: When you're dealing with that kind of heat and those
Speaker 4: kind of you know, that kind of structure. I mean,
Speaker 4: the people all get the way the buildings went down,
Speaker 4: and you know, it couldn't have just been those that
Speaker 4: initial uh dance or from the planes that made the heat.
Speaker 3: So strong, you know what.
Speaker 4: I'm not convinced one way to the other to be.
Speaker 4: But but but like I said, I don't believe that
Speaker 4: anyone could be as certain as they claim that it's
Speaker 4: that it was.
Speaker 3: That there was more too than the than the the
Speaker 3: two airplanes.
Speaker 1: Okay, And now I have a guest coming on shortly,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking about Andrew Crispo and that murder,
Speaker 1: the murder of right, oh you know, okay, you know
Speaker 1: about the case and the prosecutor. The prosecutor is coming on,
Speaker 1: Kevin Grabitz. Do you know anything about that case?
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually we believe it or not.
Speaker 3: That actually.
Speaker 4: Got caught up in our case a little bit.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: The thing with with what we were doing was there
Speaker 4: was there were so many tentacle of of avenues to
Speaker 4: go down with the information that uh the you they
Speaker 4: gave us and where some of it live. But Chrispal
Speaker 4: case was was kind of an interesting thing with the
Speaker 4: sm M and and their involvement. You know, they supposedly
Speaker 4: the killers supposedly had some kind of involvement with the
Speaker 4: Satanic cult and and that kind of stuff. So we
Speaker 4: actually tried to interview some people that were involved with that,
Speaker 4: but most of them a lawyer it up at that.
Speaker 1: Point, right, the Crispal case was I think it was
Speaker 1: Chrispa's birthday that night. He was a famous art dealer
Speaker 1: back in New York. And they had gotten this young model,
Speaker 1: this young male model, homosexual male model. And they really
Speaker 1: put this guy through the business man. They put him
Speaker 1: in one those masks and the leather out and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. They had his face down in a toilet
Speaker 1: and uh, guy wound. They strangled him to death. I believe, right.
Speaker 4: I don't remember how we died, but yeah, I to
Speaker 4: be honest, I'm not sure. And uh and Chris Paul
Speaker 4: with his status now, he's I believe right.
Speaker 1: As of a couple of years ago, Chrispon ever got
Speaker 1: arrested for that because they said they couldn't connect it
Speaker 1: to Chris. But the other guy, Bernard la Grosse, he's
Speaker 1: the one who got to and he's getting out. He's
Speaker 1: getting out. I think he's out. I think he's out
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, any day. I think I just saw I just
Speaker 4: thought I just read.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1: So then we have that prosecutor.
Speaker 4: He was an odd dealer, like you said, and he
Speaker 4: owned some galleries and I.
Speaker 1: Believe right right, And he was connected to that same
Speaker 1: bunch Patty Smythe and maple Thorpe and all those guys.
Speaker 4: Right, And and there was a famous missing person case.
Speaker 3: His name I.
Speaker 4: Hate that his name always. He always escapes me. The
Speaker 4: missing person. He was a Jesuit suoner and.
Speaker 1: I remember that, Okay, Ran tell us about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was coming home on New Year's Eve
Speaker 4: or where he was going. Hey, I left the party
Speaker 4: and he was coming home on New Year's Eve. Well,
Speaker 4: like I said, wherever he was going after the party.
Speaker 4: And he disappeared without a trace. And supposedly people involved
Speaker 4: with that, with that case, with the crestbel case and uh,
Speaker 4: the murder of this this guy who they put in
Speaker 4: the mask, Supposedly they had told somebody that they were
Speaker 4: involved with that disappearance and with that kid's murder. Us
Speaker 4: really and that's how, that's how how we got involved
Speaker 4: with it. Yeah, they said they abducted off the street
Speaker 4: and they threatened somebody with like something.
Speaker 3: To the fact that the way we made him disappear,
Speaker 3: we'll do that to you. And that was the information
Speaker 3: we got. So we tried to.
Speaker 4: Interview a bunch of people involved and involved with that.
Speaker 3: The murder of this other.
Speaker 1: Individual now in that case has never been solved.
Speaker 4: No, never been solved. And literally that kid disappeared off
Speaker 4: the street like he just just vanished. It was a
Speaker 4: house Houston Street. And I want to say, like by
Speaker 4: uh uh, like Broadway somewhere.
Speaker 1: Around there right now, with all this stuff going on
Speaker 1: in New York City, how much should what does you
Speaker 1: think that in the NYPD turning a blind eye to all.
Speaker 4: This, to that case, see the case we talked about
Speaker 4: at the moment, No, I mean they did. They did
Speaker 4: the investigation at the time, and you know, nothing came
Speaker 4: up there.
Speaker 3: And and then years later.
Speaker 4: Freshfalling, those people came to light because of tiny uh,
Speaker 4: because of the investigation we did, and we tried to
Speaker 4: interview a bunch of them. As far as the Burkleer's case. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I believe IPD turned the blind eye back in
Speaker 4: the seventies and back in the nineties when I was
Speaker 4: involved with her, for sure, they turned the blind eye
Speaker 4: and didn't even want an investigation to proceed.
Speaker 1: And why do you think that is?
Speaker 4: You know, I always say to me in this only
Speaker 4: personal opinion to me, when Burke was when burkeo Witz
Speaker 4: was out there, it was a you know, it was
Speaker 4: a tough thing for New York and the girls was
Speaker 4: running scared, and the politicians couldn't do anything and they
Speaker 4: couldn't find this serial killer. Eventually, when they do make
Speaker 4: this arrest. They pretty much thought it was a done deal.
Speaker 3: They had one body. He confessed.
Speaker 4: He was supposedly mentally uh deficient, right, and he said
Speaker 4: the dog was talking to him. So it seemed like
Speaker 4: there was a great arrest of one individual. Later on,
Speaker 4: berkele Wood's recanted that story about the dog speaking to him,
Speaker 4: and he gave information regarding you know, other people's involvement
Speaker 4: and a cult involvement and other shooters. But at this
Speaker 4: point I don't believe. I believe NYPD didn't want to
Speaker 4: hear it. They had one on the rest, it appeared
Speaker 4: that the homicides had stopped. They didn't want to hear that.
Speaker 4: Everybody or many people involved with the case were promoted.
Speaker 4: Politicians were taking their bowels, and you know people in
Speaker 4: the NYPD.
Speaker 3: Like I said, were promoted. They didn't want to hear that.
Speaker 4: Oh no, there's there were more people out there and
Speaker 4: they're still running around and now we've got to open
Speaker 4: this investigation up. And people that we promoted actually didn't
Speaker 4: do such a great job. They may have actually screwed
Speaker 4: up by not arresting other individuals, and so they just
Speaker 4: want to leave it as is where one individual was involved.
Speaker 4: They rested them. He confessed, even though he recanted, but
Speaker 4: he confessed, and you know, let's leave wall it up alone.
Speaker 4: That's my personal opinion.
Speaker 1: Every now and then when I do these shows on
Speaker 1: this topic, I'll get a message and they'll say, hey, Ed,
Speaker 1: you know the process and the children and that group
Speaker 1: up there in Yonkers. These were small, rag tag groups
Speaker 1: and they didn't have the kind of political power and
Speaker 1: the kind of uh reach that that you claim that
Speaker 1: they do. But what was your what's your feeling about that?
Speaker 4: You know? I actually, and even not only this case,
Speaker 4: just in general, I really believe that it's it's more
Speaker 4: powerful than people believe, with these child sex rings and
Speaker 4: the stenophiles and the culture that that, you know, that's
Speaker 4: the reason for existence, I believe for the you know,
Speaker 4: they may use the satanic stuff as a as a
Speaker 4: cover or a backdrop or an actuality. It's all about
Speaker 4: the sex, the drugs, the sex with children. And I
Speaker 4: believe that there's a lot of people in high high
Speaker 4: places that that a use, for lack of a better term,
Speaker 4: compromise in some way, whether they have some involvement or
Speaker 4: they know something. And people that are involved with these
Speaker 4: child sex things like the cult have a lot of
Speaker 4: pull and have a lot of know, a lot of
Speaker 4: information on people that they hold over their heads. So
Speaker 4: I think it's a wide ranging situation in New York,
Speaker 4: in Hollywood, I think it's it's it's more small prevalent
Speaker 4: that people believe.
Speaker 1: And we also some of the people around burk Woods,
Speaker 1: they used to hang out at Studio fifty form, Is
Speaker 1: that right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they were, like I said, they were
Speaker 4: into the drugs, they were into the sex.
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, And it's a pretty exclusive club to
Speaker 1: get into. Back in the seventies. It wasn't the joke.
Speaker 1: You know, you can just walk in off the street,
Speaker 1: especially if you look like Burkoit's and his buddy, you know,
Speaker 1: if his pals people over there, a bunch of nerdy
Speaker 1: looking guys, you know. But somehow they were in their
Speaker 1: hob nobby.
Speaker 4: Yep. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Now, last night I did a show about It's a Repeat,
Speaker 1: and it was about the Steve the story of the
Speaker 1: Roy raid and murder and the Cotton Club murder. Right,
Speaker 1: and many people believe that Roy Raiden was connected to
Speaker 1: the Son of Sam cult. He was involved with the
Speaker 1: filming snuff films for them and stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: again Robert Evans, who was around that whole situation, he
Speaker 1: was involved with all these guys out in California and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Now, you had mentioned earlier that these
Speaker 1: bikers were used for security outside these parties, in these events.
Speaker 1: Now last night, when I'm doing my show, I started
Speaker 1: getting all these messages from someone who's kind of around
Speaker 1: these kind of things, and he's mentioned the same thing
Speaker 1: about these parties in California where these guys people from
Speaker 1: Larry Flint's bodyguards and stuff like that, people around the
Speaker 1: Roy Raid murder, who would do security at these parties.
Speaker 1: Did you look into that connection in California but these guys,
Speaker 1: these bikers and stuff doing security.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I reached out to some detectives out there and they
Speaker 4: confirmed that bikers were involved with the Even was Charlie
Speaker 4: Manson and Coase out there, the guys out here, the
Speaker 4: bikers out here. It's it's kind of funny I spoke
Speaker 4: to you know, Like, like I said, I was still
Speaker 4: I'm still not as a late, not as a late
Speaker 4: as much, but I was still.
Speaker 3: Doing some uh research.
Speaker 4: Like even when I spoke to you and and and afterwards,
Speaker 4: and when this guy.
Speaker 3: You know, when this.
Speaker 4: Guy emailed me, and I ran into a kind of
Speaker 4: an older guy, a biker, a real real let's say,
Speaker 4: an old school one percenter who was kind of retired
Speaker 4: at this point.
Speaker 3: And I asked him and.
Speaker 4: He knew the biker game that Sime he was the
Speaker 4: vice treasurer, was a biker game called the rat Pack,
Speaker 4: and apparently they had had some internal strife and one
Speaker 4: one backpack member stabbed another and then was on the lamb.
Speaker 4: And but he knew the whole situation about that, and
Speaker 4: he also knew the president whose name was his nickname
Speaker 4: was Pushcott. And he actually, you know, he didn't supply
Speaker 4: me with it, but he says, if you go online,
Speaker 4: you'll probably find this guy's picture.
Speaker 3: And I did.
Speaker 4: I found, uh a Pushcock's picture. But he but this
Speaker 4: whole time biker knew that this particular biker gang was
Speaker 4: involved with secure on these locations up in.
Speaker 3: Westchester and yncas.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, have you come up with anything else
Speaker 1: new since lesson we talked?
Speaker 3: No? Really, that's what that's it. You know.
Speaker 4: I was hoping that this guy who who, like you
Speaker 4: just said, you talked about the stuff stones a little bit.
Speaker 4: I think he he seemed to. I believe that's where
Speaker 4: he was leading when we met. He was going to
Speaker 4: get into that a little bit. But again, it was
Speaker 4: a feeling out process and and I think that's where
Speaker 4: we might have eventually went in the investigation or whether
Speaker 4: his involvement or his knowledge. But like I said, I
Speaker 4: haven't heard from since.
Speaker 1: So who knows any threats or anything since you've gone public?
Speaker 1: Say it again, any any threats or anything since you've
Speaker 1: gone public?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no nothing.
Speaker 1: Let me ask a question by your book at Alphaville
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, Welcome to Heroin City. Now you wrote this,
Speaker 1: I guess about the eighties in New York City. And
Speaker 1: I was in New York City in the eighties and
Speaker 1: heroin was really bad. But what do you think about
Speaker 1: comparing back in those days to what we have going
Speaker 1: on right now?
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's totally different. Like in the eighties,
Speaker 4: people that were on heroin for the most part, looked
Speaker 4: like they were on heroin and they were you know,
Speaker 4: strung out junkies, and you know, very few of them
Speaker 4: were like functioning heroin addicts, where today, you know, the
Speaker 4: OPIOI epandemic a lot of the heroin news is, you know,
Speaker 4: they it seems like it seems like a whole different ballgame,
Speaker 4: like the next door neighbor, your friend could be a
Speaker 4: heroin us and you wouldn't even know it. Back then,
Speaker 4: down the Lower east side, Alphabet City, that's where people
Speaker 4: really come from. I hate to say from all over
Speaker 4: our country, but really they would come from all over
Speaker 4: our country to get the heroin and bring it back
Speaker 4: from Alphabet City because there was strong, it was ponent
Speaker 4: and you know that's that's where that's where the chunkies
Speaker 4: got together as a poster. Now it's so widespreader it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems tune in with this black tar heroine.
Speaker 1: They can smoke that too, And it also seems like
Speaker 1: they're just not like like sometimes one day they'll smoke
Speaker 1: and the next day they'll get some coatine and a
Speaker 1: cough syrup, you know, and the next day some oxy contins.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's like this whole you know,
Speaker 1: schmokesborg menu here where you can just hid all this
Speaker 1: stuff and people walking around like zombies. They're functioning, but
Speaker 1: they're walking around likeing zombies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's terrible and it's so so available nowadays. Like
Speaker 4: I said, back then you have to go to the
Speaker 4: Lower East Side for good, you know, for adults or heroin.
Speaker 4: Now it's you know, and the thing is, back then
Speaker 4: people that sold sold though, you know, they were millionaires.
Speaker 4: They made millions of dollars. Here you got like regular
Speaker 4: next door neighbors selling, you know, like so they'd have
Speaker 4: twenty thirty bags and they'd get rid of it.
Speaker 3: But then they with the profits, they just get.
Speaker 4: High with it, like they weren't you know, looking to
Speaker 4: make millions of dollars. Back then, these people who were
Speaker 4: selling were making millions millions of dollars. Here they're just
Speaker 4: looking to It appears that the people that are selling
Speaker 4: in like the suburbs, they're just looking to support their
Speaker 4: own have it. So there's a lot more drug dealers,
Speaker 4: not in the traditional sense, but they're dealing drugs and
Speaker 4: just to like survive, just to support themselves.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I guess the cartels are still making money
Speaker 1: bringing it across the border. But like you said, once
Speaker 1: it gets to these it's like these heroin communities. You
Speaker 1: know what people like all they have in common is
Speaker 1: that they're chasing after this drug every day, you know,
Speaker 1: and then they rip each other off, and then they
Speaker 1: become friends, they're dating each other. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: this wide, this community that what they have in common,
Speaker 1: you know, driving them is circulating these small amounts of
Speaker 1: heroin and pills and whatever they can get. You know,
Speaker 1: he needs something tonight, and they're all, and how do
Speaker 1: you stop something like that? You really can not through
Speaker 1: law enforcement, and.
Speaker 4: It's really difficult, I mean now, especially if so many
Speaker 4: people are so addictive.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously.
Speaker 4: They'll sell with the pills and the prescription drugs and
Speaker 4: there's just so many additions that you know, as a country,
Speaker 4: we're gonna we have some top top battle in towels.
Speaker 1: It also seems too that this is it's a breeding
Speaker 1: ground for informants for in police reformance too. So again
Speaker 1: you can't stop this because the cops kind of like
Speaker 1: this happening, you know what I mean, they kind of
Speaker 1: like having this intelligence network out they're working for them
Speaker 1: of informant sentence people.
Speaker 4: What they get is another guy who sells twenty bags.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you know, a guy that's a.
Speaker 4: Big shot is a guy who has one hundred bigs
Speaker 4: in his house, you know, I mean maybe a couple maybe,
Speaker 4: or once in a while, But you don't get like
Speaker 4: the guy who's driving a Lamborghini and he's got fifty
Speaker 4: thousand dollars worth of heroin in his house and one
Speaker 4: hundred thousand k's from the mattress. You don't get that.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just a lot of work. And they
Speaker 4: get small tying guys and they get arrested and maybe
Speaker 4: they go to jail.
Speaker 3: They probably don't.
Speaker 4: They get for basin, you know, and it's just a
Speaker 4: continuous cycle.
Speaker 1: You know. I don't know if we talked about this
Speaker 1: last time, because but you and me we have a
Speaker 1: mutual friend, Bobby Harris, And you know his dad was
Speaker 1: the guy who arrested Nicky Barnes that Nicky Barnes tried
Speaker 1: to bribe him with the forty thousand dollars. Did you
Speaker 1: know that story?
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I know, we both know bothered,
Speaker 4: but no, I didn't know about it about his old man.
Speaker 3: Actually, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Bob Harris sceon even if you look it up. He
Speaker 1: was the cop that he pulled over Nicky Barnes, and
Speaker 1: Nicky Barnes had some I guess heroiny in his car. No,
Speaker 1: he had cash and stuff like that, and he offered
Speaker 1: them money and he said, okay, yeah, I'll take the money,
Speaker 1: but I gotta call my sergeant. My sergeant gotta come down.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they set him up for the They got them
Speaker 1: for the burglary charges. That's one. I think that's one
Speaker 1: of the only charges that Nicky Barnes ever had with
Speaker 1: Bobby Harris's dad. Mike Cadella, what do you want to
Speaker 1: leave us with?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'll give you my email if people
Speaker 4: want to email me regarding the you know, anything.
Speaker 3: That might help us out.
Speaker 1: Sure, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So it's Mike see New York City spelled out at
Speaker 4: gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Mike C. New York City at gmail dot com. Yes, okay, great,
Speaker 1: Mike Cadell, thank you so much. Okay, if anything new
Speaker 1: comes up, give me a call. Put you right back
Speaker 1: when here.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, thank you. I have a good day, man.
Speaker 1: You tooe man, take it easy.
Speaker 3: Thanks again.
Speaker 1: Okay. Then we had Mike Cadella and back to visit
Speaker 1: us again. His book is called Alphaville nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Heroin City and also to his experience there
Speaker 1: with the child abduction case. Very notorious case. I've talked
Speaker 1: about it on the air a few times. We do
Speaker 1: want to cure and most people who have listened to
Speaker 1: the previous shows I have guessed who that kid is.
Speaker 1: I actually discussed that one time. The wanted the missing
Speaker 1: Person's poster for that kid was up on the wall
Speaker 1: over there at Mickey Sasar's diala joint headquarters there, So
Speaker 1: we do. I think it was even a frame too.
Speaker 1: So very fascinating mixture of people involved in all this. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, I got coming up, oh you know it,
Speaker 1: then crashed coming up to some show about the Crispo case.
Speaker 1: And the Crispo was this Andrew Crisp who was this
Speaker 1: famous art dealer, artist guy, a bunch of galleries, and
Speaker 1: like I said, he was having a birthday part and
Speaker 1: they had this young model and they did this whole
Speaker 1: s and M torture thing on this young model. They
Speaker 1: got him. He died and Chrispo never never went to
Speaker 1: prison for that, but the guy, one of the guys
Speaker 1: who actually killed him, he did wind up going to prison.
Speaker 1: So we're going to have the prosecutor on from that case.
Speaker 1: Let's take a little commercial break and then we'll be
Speaker 1: right back a little bit more of the Opperman Report.
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Speaker 1: had another friend too, who was in the one of
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