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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your

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<v Speaker 1>daily comedy news. Tomorrow on this program, one of two

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<v Speaker 1>things is going to happen. Either I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 1>my guest today is Matthew Bissard, or I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how Matthew Bisard canceled. And I have no reason

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to cancel. Well, that's a plan

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<v Speaker 1>for tomorrow because I'm taping him in about an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Riife's book came out this week kind of quietly.

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<v Speaker 1>It took two days for anything on Google to show up.

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<v Speaker 1>I had kind of forgotten. I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>make of that, but now he seems to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>some press. The book is called Your Mom's Gonna Love Me,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talked about his change in looks. Did Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Rife have plastic surgery. He claims it was simply puberty

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<v Speaker 1>that led to an accelerated appearance change. He writes puberty,

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<v Speaker 1>after its sweet time for more than twenty years, finally

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<v Speaker 1>decided to hit me square in the face. He claims

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<v Speaker 1>he went from looking like a thirteen year old to

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<v Speaker 1>an actual Grownish man. He says his wider and more

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<v Speaker 1>prominent features were all from a bizarrely stunted journey through puberty.

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<v Speaker 1>People who have accused him of getting classic surgery have

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<v Speaker 1>a frightening lack of common sense, and claims that his

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<v Speaker 1>attractiveness has negatively affected his career. In the book, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>is a comic, you're supposed to make the audience like you, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>who the f likes attractive people? No one? Okay. He

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<v Speaker 1>did an interview with US Weekly. He says he has

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<v Speaker 1>no regrets about anything. It's comedy. Sometimes you don't hit

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<v Speaker 1>the mark. Plenty of people think I did. He was

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<v Speaker 1>referring to the controversial joke in his November twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>special Natural Selection. He says, to me, the joke was

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<v Speaker 1>just that, a joke. I wasn't trying to make some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of profound statement about the state of society. I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to set the tone for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the show via personal spin on a classic joke. He

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that practically overnight, and he went from a TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>sensation to basically canceled. Maybe it wasn't dear taste. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>That happens, not to me very often, but it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't make me a support of domestic violence.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I grew up with an abusive stepdad. Verbal abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>psychological abuse, fiscal abuse I experienced at all. He says.

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<v Speaker 1>The only negative thing about the special is that people

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<v Speaker 1>were upset. He says it's inevitable with almost any comedian.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the business of making people happy. But I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be me. The immense positivity I received at the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning of my career can't last forever. It sought

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<v Speaker 1>me to respectfully not give a hoot. I know my intentions,

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<v Speaker 1>I know where my heart lies. Matt turns thirty in

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<v Speaker 1>September of twenty five and said this was the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>time to release a memoir and show fans the real hymn.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only did I feel it necessary to explain more

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<v Speaker 1>about my life and everything it took to get here,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also feels like I've already lived a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So much of your life when you're in the public

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<v Speaker 1>eye is open interpretation. Gave me a chance to tell

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<v Speaker 1>my story on my terms. Matt Riife went on the

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<v Speaker 1>view Whoopy Goldberg said the book is wonderful and asked

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<v Speaker 1>if he recorded the audiobook version. Raife said he did

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<v Speaker 1>the audiobook a little lazy, but I respect it. Joy

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<v Speaker 1>Behar said the comedians are runner attack now. Raife pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out that his close friend Nate Berghetzi, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>those two were friends. That's fascinating. He says. Nate doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come under the same fire for his jokes, which are

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<v Speaker 1>less raunchy. That's where you'd have to decide how much

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be yourself and how much you want

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<v Speaker 1>to pander to a community that might not even care

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<v Speaker 1>about you in the first place. Whoope, Goldberg greed, telling

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<v Speaker 1>Rife on the panel that comics are always under fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Inlander spoke to David Cross and I asked him about

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<v Speaker 1>the people he surrounds himself with. Is that important to

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<v Speaker 1>his own creativity? Cross said, well, it's less about importance

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<v Speaker 1>and just what I prefer. It's a great thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm able to do. I mean, I know plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>people who aren't creative, but creative people are more fun

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out with. He talked about his podcasts and

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<v Speaker 1>said for years I didn't do one. I had no desire.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't listen to podcasts myself. I have nothing against them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't occupy my time that way. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>started doing it. I loved it. It's really fun. It

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<v Speaker 1>is really fun, and they're just conversations. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>the why I approach it is what I tell people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like, imagine we're strangers and we're sitting next

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<v Speaker 1>to each other at a pub that kind of conversation. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like he went to podcast programming executive school.

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<v Speaker 1>One oh one. The amount of meetings I've been in. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just a conversation. Cross, Do you get

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<v Speaker 1>annoyed by people who come up and recite arrested development lines?

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<v Speaker 1>Cross said, Oh, that's annoying. I've experienced pretty much everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and by far most people are cool and respectful, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of folks that aren't. Good question here,

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<v Speaker 1>what's it been like seeing a decent chunk of the

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<v Speaker 1>commit landscape shift from alt comedy to alt rights comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I agree with the premise. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a good question, but there's It's not like alt comedy

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<v Speaker 1>went away. Joe Rogan opened a club and Tony Hinchcliff's

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<v Speaker 1>podcast took off. That's it, Relax everybody, Cross it Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's depressing because I've never really enjoyed or

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<v Speaker 1>take import in comedy that punches down and makes fun

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<v Speaker 1>of the disenfranchised or vulnerable out there. That's never been

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<v Speaker 1>my thing. So it's a bummer that it's so celebrated,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, financially rewarded. I mean, I don't make one

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thirty amount of money that some of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are. But I'm going to do my stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>always be me. I've always had a kind of stew

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<v Speaker 1>of different stuff. I have very silly jokes. I have

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<v Speaker 1>some that are kind of a little offensive. I have

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's anecdotal. I'd say easily a third of the

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<v Speaker 1>set is just about anecdotal stuff. This thing happened to me,

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<v Speaker 1>or this thing I observed, And then obviously I dip

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<v Speaker 1>into the current state of affairs. And there's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little religious stuff in there for people

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<v Speaker 1>who know my body of work, which there are literally

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<v Speaker 1>decades worth of specials and alms and stuff. It's that MOA.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayer's show is getting a season two. The show is

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<v Speaker 1>called mo. You may remember this one, the Netflix comedy

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<v Speaker 1>about a Palestinian immigrant attempting to secure Silomon Houston I

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<v Speaker 1>either didn't know or forgot they renewed it. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that show a lot. It was very good. The next

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<v Speaker 1>batch of episodes spoilers, we'll see Moe stranded across the

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<v Speaker 1>border and desperate to get back to Houston before his

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<v Speaker 1>family's asylum, hearing he's going to need all the hustle

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<v Speaker 1>and charm he can muster. Little does he know that

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<v Speaker 1>the journey home is just the start of his troubles,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a new guy in town ready to steal

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<v Speaker 1>both his longtime love Maria and his Falafel Tago recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>Mo back on Netflix January thirtieth, Moa Mara says, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thankful to continue to tell a universal story of struggle

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<v Speaker 1>that relates to so many refugees and millions of underrepresented

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<v Speaker 1>humans trying to be seen around the globe. Sarah Silverman

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<v Speaker 1>was politically active this fall, supporting the losing candidate. After

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<v Speaker 1>the electoral College numbers came in, Silverman said, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>oh God, what am I doing? Why am I on

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<v Speaker 1>the road right now? I want to go home, But

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<v Speaker 1>being on the road has made her feel better about

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<v Speaker 1>the future. Sarah says, it's been really for whatever it's worth,

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a solve. I don't know what fresh

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<v Speaker 1>air we're in for, but to be together in a

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<v Speaker 1>big group of people at night, it's been nice. Having

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of feeling connect on a local level has

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<v Speaker 1>been oddly comforting. The optimist in me feels like community

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be our savior. Being on tour feels

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<v Speaker 1>like the beginnings of that for me. Bill Maher, who's

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<v Speaker 1>totally not going to quit his HBO show, Stop dude,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to yesterday's podcast, mar is taping his next special

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<v Speaker 1>tonight and tomorrow at the CIBC Theater in Chicago. Defector

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<v Speaker 1>wrote an article that caught my attention. The headline crowd

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<v Speaker 1>work isn't a substitute for comedy? Right there. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the article because they've already nailed the premise. Defector writes,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to say it, but the biggest laugh in

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<v Speaker 1>James Acaster's new special, Heckler's Welcome, comes from a hackle.

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<v Speaker 1>I made it seven minutes into that special, or was

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<v Speaker 1>it eight? I can't remember. I think I made it

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<v Speaker 1>seven into Jesly Neck and eight into a caster. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>a total of fifty minutes between the two. Didn't enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>either one Defector writes fast forward about thirty minutes into

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<v Speaker 1>the latest special on the punch line to another a

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<v Speaker 1>Caster joke as a guy yelling to a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>bullies that their parents don't love them, to which one

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<v Speaker 1>audience member pipes up, my parents are dead. A Caster

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<v Speaker 1>is so impressed by the callback that he says, lovely

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<v Speaker 1>to have a Heckler in here who appreciates stretcher to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair to the audience. Heckler's welcome is in a

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<v Speaker 1>Caster's best work. From the title on the setup, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>expected to be quite a bit of intervention, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he was expecting, but there isn't a ton

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that was I can't even get out of sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so perplexed by the special. Yeah, I was watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, where are the Hecklers, what's going on? Where's

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<v Speaker 1>the comedy? And I bailed that life is too short.

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<v Speaker 1>I got too much to watch. If you can't get

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<v Speaker 1>to it in the first seven eight minutes, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>move on, Defector, right. So I wonder if ay Caster

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<v Speaker 1>thought it'd have more to work with by opening the

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<v Speaker 1>floor to the Hecklers, But he was a little thrown

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<v Speaker 1>off by the relational change to his audience. I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know he's usually a lot better than this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they recommend that you check out his previous special

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<v Speaker 1>Coldasignia Hate Myself nineteen ninety nine for an example. Matt Rife,

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<v Speaker 1>that browie comedian who sells out arenas and looks like

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<v Speaker 1>he was manufactured by a chad machine. Hey, look, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Rife did not have plastic surgery. He's made that clear. Okay, defector.

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<v Speaker 1>He became TikTok famous about six years ago off his

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<v Speaker 1>crowd work. I mean, fine, he's quick, but the recurring

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi punch lines also seem a little overly available to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and explains that these clips allowed you to promote your

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<v Speaker 1>gig gun Law without ruining it for anybody who actually

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<v Speaker 1>pays to come. It's kipping ahead. Despite CrowdWork being leveraged

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<v Speaker 1>in the past by older comics like Todd Barry, who

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty fourteen released the crowd Work Tour, newer comedians

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<v Speaker 1>say they're expected to produce content incessantly, and releasing audience

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<v Speaker 1>interactions allows them to do that without burning material or

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<v Speaker 1>SNL Writer and comic Vanessa Jackson sold the new York Times.

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<v Speaker 1>The younger crowds, I think enjoy authentic content more than

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<v Speaker 1>something that's crafted. Wow, I'm just gonna build a cabin

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<v Speaker 1>up here on Old Man Mountain then and listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Old Kamedy. Colin Jos is out there promoting what is

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<v Speaker 1>it pop culture Jeopardy? I keep wanting to say celebrit Jeopardy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pop culture Jeopardy. I actually misspoke that in the

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday episode. Now to use the AI to replace my

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<v Speaker 1>own words, you'll hear someone say pop culture jeopard if

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<v Speaker 1>Joe said, I found pop Culture Jeopardy harder than regular Jeopardy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really impressed. You have to know different erarors

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<v Speaker 1>really well. You know, I got a trivia on Wednesday night,

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<v Speaker 1>I were reasonably smart and reasonably educated. It depends what

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten's music and I'm like, we don't know any

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<v Speaker 1>of eighties questions and we crush and we went a

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<v Speaker 1>would know something from the nineties, or no one would

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<v Speaker 1>Pop Culture is so different for everyone in what sticks

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<v Speaker 1>divided because in almost in an algorithmic way, your experience

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<v Speaker 1>with culture is so fragmented. Joe says, I promise, in

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<v Speaker 1>no way am I trying to steal Ken Jennings's job.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very good at his job. I also have a job.

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<v Speaker 1>He and I texted during the Pop Culture Jeopardy tapings.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually he was supportive. What he was saying is true.

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<v Speaker 1>There's almost no one that knows what it's like to

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<v Speaker 1>host the game. You know, all those crazy specific things

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<v Speaker 1>who used to host Weekend Update. It has its own

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<v Speaker 1>vocabulary and its own experience. That's very specific. He used

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<v Speaker 1>to host Weekend Update. Well, he has released a deluxe

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<v Speaker 1>edition of his Holiday Seasoning Christmas album. He added nine tracks. Now, Jimmy, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I bought this thing three weeks ago? Say,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent fifteen bucks and now you're like, here's nine

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<v Speaker 1>more tracks. I mean, I have Apple Plus, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. It's all unlimited streaming for me, except for

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<v Speaker 1>that pesky monthly payment. But you know, if I had

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<v Speaker 1>actually bought a CD or a cassette or an a

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<v Speaker 1>track and now you drop nine more songs, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not cool. Who did this? The new tracks are

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<v Speaker 1>called Christmas Alone. The Elves are unionizing Broadway. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember today at Christmas time? Remember Christmas with Lang Lang,

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis on the Shelvis Little Drummer Boy, Silent Night, and

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<v Speaker 1>Holiday with the Jonas brothers in el Cooljay. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>your comedy news for today. All right, tomorrow Matthew Brissard

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<v Speaker 1>or not, so come back and find out what happens now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no reason to think that he's going to cancel.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes with these tape things, the comedians forget and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all good. I understand. It's a dude in the basement

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<v Speaker 1>recording podcasts, and they forget. I feel like I'm throwing

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<v Speaker 1>Basarda under the bus. He's done nothing wrong. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one o two pm and I'm recording with him

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<v Speaker 1>at three point thirty. Anyway, come back tomorrow and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>find out what happened. See you then,
