WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:06.879 Wamen starts. 2 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:19.800 Name name name, the name. 3 00:00:30.559 --> 00:01:17.599 Didn't what you're putting. 4 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:24.159 We got some water or nothing probing out here. I 5 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:26.280 can't go, but I know I did. My vendor light 6 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:28.159 came on and I did that. But they went and 7 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:30.840 the thing running across the yard. Not a good fight 8 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:32.920 man or something I look like the man. 9 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:34.239 I don't know what if? 10 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:34.000 What if? 11 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:35.680 The right across the yard. 12 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:37.920 It seems to be a big foot leaning against a 13 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:40.920 tree in a wooded area. I have seen plenty of 14 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.480 people with big feet, but not bigfoot tree minks and rush. 15 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:46.599 He sees about a seven and seven and a half 16 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:49.879 foot tall fast watch looking back at him, and. 17 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:51.879 That kind of looks like a wolf, but not like 18 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:52.760 a neighborhood dog. 19 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:54.719 Pick these stores for what they are and hopes that 20 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:58.439 maybe if it's out there, then show me yeah, and 21 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:01.599 says he might have caught the mythical chup of cabra 22 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:03.480 creature terrorizing. 23 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:05.680 His chickens like a grunt and a knock like a 24 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.080 w I think there's kind of a cultural tendency for 25 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:11.479 people to want to make big Foot a quote unquote monster. 26 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:22.639 Welcome to ecb ro O Bigfoot Radio. Hey guys, it's 27 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:26.800 your host Janie bin Wan. Tonight we bring you another 28 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:31.759 special guest that's joining us today right here in Virginia, 29 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:33.840 and we're going to talk some big quot today. We're 30 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:36.919 going to talk about some encounters and experience this individual 31 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:41.319 has shared. But I want to welcome everybody. Uh well, 32 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:44.719 first I want to welcome uh miss April April. How 33 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:45.319 are you doing. 34 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:47.960 I'm good. Thanks for having me. 35 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:52.360 Absolutely, I am doing great. Now let me ask you, 36 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:53.919 is this the first time you've ever been on a 37 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:55.919 podcast or anything like this? 38 00:02:57.280 --> 00:02:58.599 Really very first time? 39 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:01.879 Okay, hey, well this is great, This is good, This 40 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:06.800 is good stuff. So now, aypl me and you. We've 41 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:10.080 known each other for some years now, we kind of 42 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:14.080 go back. I don't forgive me for not remembering timeframes, 43 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:15.960 but it's been a long time. I know that much. 44 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:18.879 So I think. 45 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:25.879 Back in twenty twenty thirteen is when we first met. 46 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:28.840 Oh wow, so yeah, that has been a good while. 47 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:33.960 That's been twenty thirteen. That's been I can't think of 48 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:35.639 the top of my head. I'm a little slow right now. 49 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:41.479 So yeah, that's been a good while. Good deal. Now, 50 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:47.199 I do recall Well, first of all, let me ask 51 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:52.120 you before we get into anything further big the subject 52 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:55.919 depict with has something has that kind of been an 53 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:59.280 interest to you or is that something kind of fell into. 54 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.719 I've always been interested in vixit Like some people why, 55 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:06.680 I don't believe in it, but I believe. 56 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:15.400 Nice. No, have you had experience you will? I recall 57 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:19.439 you shared an experience with me a long time ago. Well, 58 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:23.040 one of the things you shared with me, you said 59 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:29.199 you had a sighting at a young age. Is that correct? Yes, okay. 60 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:31.399 I was wondering if you could kind of kind of 61 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:35.000 give us a background or backstory on that and like 62 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.560 when that happened, what you know, what led up to it, 63 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:39.920 where you were and all that good stuff. 64 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:47.800 I was up on Peak Mountain, actually I was at 65 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:51.279 like he's like a stepbrother to me. We were at 66 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:53.680 his place and we were dear hunting him, riding four 67 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:58.160 wheelers and me and my brother was riding a four 68 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:02.319 wheeler up and down the driveway and through the woods, 69 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:07.240 and out of nowhere one came out and started actually 70 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:10.000 chasing this one formula Oh. 71 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:14.800 Wow, and then oh go ahead, go ahead. 72 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:17.439 I'm sorry, And then we end up actually shooting a 73 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:19.959 deer the same night, and when we went to go 74 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:24.480 get it. We seem were dropped, and we went in 75 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:27.000 the house to get the big spotlight, and once we 76 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.279 come out, the deer was nowhere to be found. No 77 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:31.959 blood tracks, no nothing. 78 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:37.720 Wow. Wow. You know it's funny that you mentioned that, 79 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:41.600 because I've heard that happening here in Virginia a couple 80 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:44.720 of different times from other hunters where they've actually seen 81 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:48.519 the deer was in their sight and they dropped the deer, 82 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:51.839 and even though the deer was at a little bit 83 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:54.360 of a distance, by the time they worked their way 84 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:56.959 up to where the deer was dropped, the deer was 85 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:03.160 nowhere in sight. But now you said Peaks Mountain? Is 86 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:04.600 that is that here in Virginia? 87 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:09.160 Yeah, that's right out pier on thirty three west and 88 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:10.319 Rocking Him County. 89 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.360 Okay, is that? Would you say? Is that over towards 90 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:21.240 the Burkeen area that you mentioned and talked about before? No? Oh, okay, 91 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:24.040 But how far west on thirty three would you say that? Is? 92 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:27.120 Like you're going towards Fox Run. 93 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.120 Oh, it's going out that way, but it's before so 94 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:32.439 it's before Falks Run. 95 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:36.279 Yeah, Like you can take Peak Mountain right and. 96 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:38.920 Off of thirty three. 97 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:40.519 You saw a Peak Mountain all the way down and 98 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.240 you could actually go into Fox Run that way off 99 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:44.360 of Peak Mountains. 100 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:51.800 Okay, wow, okay, very cool. Now did know you when 101 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:53.439 when the big foo came out and you said it 102 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:55.279 started chasing you, did you get a good look at it, 103 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.480 like any kind of description or like, how would you 104 00:06:57.480 --> 00:06:59.639 describe it? I don't know. 105 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:01.399 I was young and I was scared. 106 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:05.240 I didn't look back once I've seen it was chasing inside, 107 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:07.959 and looked back. I buried my head and my brother's back. 108 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:14.319 Wow, all you know? So, but there was still daylight 109 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:20.720 like it was. It wasn't dark yet though, right. No? Wow, 110 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:25.959 So since then you're thinking much about that? Or I mean, like, 111 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.519 did that affect you in any way since then? As 112 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:32.519 far as going into the woods, Nope. 113 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:38.680 I also go in the woods. I love being outdoors. 114 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:39.480 That didn't stop me. 115 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:43.959 Yeah, I mean I know a lot of people. It 116 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:46.199 drives people to keep going and wanting to be in 117 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:48.959 the woods be so they appreciate nature. But I've heard 118 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:53.120 stories from others who have seen them. Some people say 119 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:55.120 it took them a while to get back in the 120 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:56.800 woods after having any kind of encounter. 121 00:07:58.240 --> 00:07:59.920 I was in the back of the woods next day. 122 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.439 Wow, Yeah, that's awesome. That would be me because you know, 123 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:09.000 you know, I don't let much scare me. It really doesn't. 124 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.680 I mean I've had my shares of experiences with both 125 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:15.519 wildlife and the unknown, and it doesn't stop me. It 126 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:23.040 just keeps me going. So I'll see. I know, since that, 127 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:25.720 have you had any other experiences since then? Or what 128 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:28.199 was the next experience was when I met up with 129 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:32.600 you when you guys are camping out there by Elcorn. 130 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.360 That's the next experience I had was when we were 131 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:39.679 camping at Elcorn when I have rock staring over my head. 132 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:41.200 M M. 133 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:44.480 Now I know I got the interview. I got the 134 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:47.720 interview on camera. It was of course I had. That 135 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:49.879 was my That was some years ago, and I had 136 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:52.399 a cheap cameraphone, which I did. I think it was 137 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.799 a cameraphone or was it my I can't remember. I 138 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.440 mean it was either my cheap cameraphone or it was 139 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:01.200 one of my old little quarters. I know I had 140 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.720 my daughter with me, but I do have that quarter 141 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:08.519 you had. It was okay, That's what I'm starting to 142 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:10.240 think because I know a lot of times I did 143 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:12.519 a lot of recording with my old camera phone and 144 00:09:12.759 --> 00:09:18.559 it was a low quality film. Uh, but yeah, was it? 145 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:21.120 Could you recall it? Was? It was? It? Was it 146 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:23.879 just one night when the rocks started were thrown at you? 147 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:25.720 Or did it happen a couple of nights or I mean, 148 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:28.399 what could you recall about that that night or the 149 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:29.159 whole situation? 150 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:32.879 It was just that one night, like we came back 151 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:39.559 from coming from Harrisonburg and we just said that, well, 152 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:45.039 I did said down to eat dinner, and and at 153 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:49.639 the time was doing something and next thing I know, 154 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:54.120 I had rocks starting over my head. And then he's 155 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:58.000 seen the rocks from over my head, and then he's like, 156 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:00.799 I'm going to knock three times. Was a piece of 157 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:04.440 you know, a stick, So he knocked three times on 158 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.519 a tree, and a bout that time we heard three 159 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:12.039 knocks back, and then then again bout that time again, 160 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:14.679 I done had a bigger rock thrown in my head 161 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:17.360 and I just felt just the hair of it touched 162 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:21.559 the top of my head. And about that time it 163 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:24.879 scared me so bad that I threw my food into 164 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.879 the fire and my dog almost went into the fire 165 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.759 because she was on my lap also because she was scared, 166 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:40.519 and no one once I felt the rock like taking 167 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:42.600 just a hair of it touched the top of my head. 168 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:45.799 I ran and jumped in the car and I told 169 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:48.039 him I was leaving, and I even locked the doors 170 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:53.240 on him so he couldn't even get in the car 171 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:53.720 in the. 172 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:55.679 Car, and that's when we left from there that night. 173 00:10:57.080 --> 00:11:02.720 Wow man, Uh yeah, because I think it was the 174 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:10.080 next morning you guys you would contacted me and was it? 175 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:11.879 Was it the same day? Did I come out that 176 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:14.519 same day or I think they did? 177 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:16.519 Yeah, I'm pretty sure you did. 178 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:21.159 Now, a couple of things I recall. We we did 179 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:24.200 some exploring. We did a little investigating up behind your 180 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.360 camp and you know the I know, the creakers right 181 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:32.000 behind the campsite, and we went we went just beyond 182 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:33.720 the creek where we were able to cross the creek, 183 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:38.279 and uh, I do recall, and I I'm pretty sure 184 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:42.159 I still have pictures, but there was what appeared to 185 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:47.000 be some very u fairly sized flat impressions and some 186 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:51.639 grass up behind it that we did come across. Another 187 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:55.919 thing too, I think it was just me and Ed. 188 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.960 Ed took me to another spot where you guys were 189 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:04.559 camping at and he me the location of that camp 190 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:07.000 site and part of the creek or the stream that 191 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:10.120 ran up behind that camp, uh, which was this was 192 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:12.879 probably almost a good two miles from where you guys 193 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:16.320 were set up where I first met you guys at, 194 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:19.840 and he said something very similar happened there where there 195 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:22.559 was rocks being thrown across that stream, which that stream 196 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:25.840 was a little it was a little wider, but yeah, 197 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:27.440 he told me there were some rocks that were being 198 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:31.720 thrown from the opposite side over there as well. I 199 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:34.440 don't know, do you recall anything about that location. 200 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.320 I don't remember that. Of course, I probably asleep when 201 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:44.919 that happened at him mm hmm, can tell me about it, 202 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.799 but yeah, I don't recall it happened and when I 203 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:48.600 was awake. 204 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:55.600 Yeah, Because what's what's interesting about that second location, there's 205 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:57.960 a trail if you follow the trail that branches from 206 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.639 that that camp spot, which is bird along the river, 207 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.279 on that trail all the way through it will lead 208 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:07.720 you up behind where I camp at, where the main 209 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:09.080 one of the main spots where I know on the 210 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:13.279 camp at, and uh, yeah, there's been some experiences there 211 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:15.960 and up across from where I've camped at. Because if 212 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:18.120 you know the location of the Elkhorn Lake or the 213 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:22.120 entrance that leads into the lake. Yeah, right, yeah, right 214 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.960 outside of that entrance, there's a there's a big camp 215 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:30.759 spot right out on the outside where, Yeah, there's a 216 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:33.600 group of us that camp there. And I believe I 217 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.080 actually got pictures. I think that was back in twenty seventeen. 218 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:39.879 We did a group picture. I knew you and Ed 219 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.240 came out there to visit for a little while and 220 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:43.919 if you guys were in the you guys are in 221 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.919 the group picture we took. Yeah, but that location there, 222 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:53.440 we had a few things, interesting things that happened there 223 00:13:53.440 --> 00:14:00.200 because my father camped out with me that week and yeah, yeah, 224 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.080 and while we were sitting around that campfire one of 225 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:07.360 the nights we were out there, Dad had just gone 226 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:10.320 down into his tent and lay down. He was tired. 227 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:13.120 It was kind of to me it was early, but 228 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.879 Dad was tired, and you know, because the medication he 229 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:19.200 was taking at the time made him you know, it 230 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.080 was a blood threader for his heart, and he had 231 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:25.200 he had just gone down to lay down in his 232 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:28.799 tent and the rest of us were sitting around the campfire. Yeah, 233 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:30.840 we were kind of shooting the shit, talking here and there, 234 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:34.960 But then it was dead quiet, and from out of nowhere, 235 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:42.080 right across from camp, we had this powerful wood on wood, 236 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:47.159 powerful tree knock bang. And what was actually kind of 237 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:51.399 funny about it, Dad was scurry. Dad wasn't asleep, apparently 238 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:55.360 he was laying awake listening to everything. But when we 239 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:57.279 all heard that tree knock, we were pretty much on 240 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:00.759 our feet. Dad came scurrying out of his tent. Soon 241 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:02.480 as Dad jumps out of his tent and he's like, 242 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:06.480 I heard that, and I'm actually I'm kind of almost 243 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:09.240 like laughing, but I'm not, but I'm like pointing in 244 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:11.679 the direction where it came from. And when he stepped down, 245 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:13.960 I was like, Dad, I told you, you know, I've 246 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:16.320 been telling him about what goes on around there, you know, 247 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:19.480 the activity that we normally get, and I'm just glad 248 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.679 that he was able to get that little bit of 249 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:25.399 you know, experience. You know, that tree snock really had 250 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:30.559 he'd had us on our feet, but that particular night, 251 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:34.639 we were actually, you know, we started hearing things even 252 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:38.519 after that tree knock took place. Some moments later, I 253 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:42.519 know Greg that was with us. He did a couple 254 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:47.440 of vocalizations. We had. We got some responses from his vocalization, 255 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:53.000 some that almost sounded very similar in response. But after 256 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:55.360 hearing a couple of vocals here and there, we started 257 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:57.799 to hear a movement on the outskirts of our camp, 258 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.799 like through the bushes in this forest, and it sounded 259 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.440 like something walking around us, like we were being circle, 260 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:07.360 you know. Now, we never saw anything, but that's what 261 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:11.360 we heard, and we started, you know, looking around. We 262 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:14.320 actually end up walking up behind camps see if we 263 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:17.960 can see it, which we never did. But of course 264 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:20.279 perhaps we should have gone walking to where we heard 265 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:22.759 that big tree knock, which was on the opposite side. 266 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.559 But so that was one thing I could recall because 267 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:29.000 I've had some of the other experiences there, you know, 268 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.320 in just a few years prior to all that. But 269 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.960 Elkhorn Lake has been very interesting because there's been a 270 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:39.759 lot of interesting things that's happened over there before I 271 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:42.759 ever had an encounter. I've had stories from people I 272 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:44.679 used to work with that told me about what they've 273 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:47.759 seen across the road in front of them. And these 274 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:50.600 are for people that never knew nothing about me, and 275 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:57.799 they just came out and told me their stories, you know. Yeah, 276 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:01.080 So have you have you just I'm just curious. Have 277 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:04.359 you had anything ever since that last moment? 278 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:06.559 I haven't. 279 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:10.000 It's been a while since I've been out there again. 280 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:11.119 I need to go back. 281 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:18.799 Yeah, absolutely, Now you you came out and canceled us 282 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:21.599 a few days. It was about a couple of days 283 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:28.079 or so, back in October of this this previous year. Now, 284 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.160 one of the things that happened at that camp site, 285 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:33.839 Now I wasn't there because it was towards the end 286 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.319 of the campsite where some of us had to pack 287 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:39.119 up and leave. We were talking about this on a 288 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:43.079 previous podcast because one of the couples that came down 289 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:45.960 there was a couple. There was a couple that end 290 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:50.200 up coming down from Pennsylvania, a husband and wife. And 291 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:52.640 you know, I mind you the wife, she doesn't know 292 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.160 much about wild life. She doesn't she doesn't get to 293 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:58.319 experience that, she doesn't see anything. She doesn't know how 294 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:01.279 they behave and what they do. But her and her 295 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:04.240 husband had gone down and drove down to the gate 296 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:11.440 at the lake. And what was funny was as her 297 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.200 husband was parking, she was in the passenger seat looking 298 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:18.759 over her shoulder towards the gate and she seen what 299 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:20.880 she claimed to see. She claimed it to be a 300 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:25.880 bear and she's looking over there. She said, oh my god, 301 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:30.559 there's a bear over there, you know. But there's details 302 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.119 that she didn't share until after she got back to camp. 303 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.319 But her husband was telling her he don't worry about bears, bear, 304 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:38.519 you know. She she's like, I got my side arm. 305 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:43.519 Bears ain't gonna bother us. We're protected anyway, blah blah blah. 306 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:45.599 So they went about their hike and this and that, 307 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:50.559 and later on after they got back, Melissa and my 308 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:52.759 friends Melissa and David were still at camp. They were 309 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.839 backing up getting ready to leave where they started bringing 310 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.559 it up again. And keep in mind, there's a details 311 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.839 of her husband did not know. But she started talking 312 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:06.640 about what she saw again she thinks it's a bear. 313 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.440 But her story was when she looked over, she saw 314 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:14.240 it standing on two feet at the edge of the gate, 315 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:17.640 behind the behind some of the trees and bushes, and 316 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:19.400 it was it was standing there for a little bit, 317 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:22.519 and then all of a sudden, real fast, it started 318 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:24.960 taking off on two feet and it ran across that 319 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:28.480 little uh that roadway by the gate and went across 320 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:32.039 into the woods. And it stayed on two feet, running 321 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:36.279 like lightning, And and of course everybody would starting to 322 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:39.880 listen to her story, they're like, wait a minute, you 323 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:42.359 said you saw a bear and it was running real 324 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:46.279 fast on two feet, And they're like, no, that wasn't 325 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:49.200 a bear. Bears might walk and stumble a little bit 326 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:52.200 on two feet at a short distance and have short steps, 327 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:58.559 but they will not run on two feet. And how tall? Yeah, 328 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.680 she she said it was almost around six week tall 329 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:05.640 is what she estimated. So after sharing the details, they're like, 330 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:07.799 wait a minute, you didn't see a bear. That was 331 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:12.319 not a bear. So yeah, from what she described and 332 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:14.359 what she said she saw and how. 333 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:18.359 It moved and behaved, yeah, we believe she may have 334 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.799 seen a young sasquatch, which is not surprising because I've 335 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.000 heard so many stories from that general area out near. 336 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:31.599 Around falk Run in the other areas. Some years ago, 337 00:20:31.720 --> 00:20:35.880 when I was over by Elkhorn Lake, back when I 338 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:38.000 had my other Blazer, you know, the a group of 339 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:40.039 young guys that were driving up. I was parked up 340 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:43.799 by the bathouse that leads into the Elkhorn Lake. These 341 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:46.680 guys on my vehicle and they thought, hey, wait, let's 342 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:48.920 stop and talk to this guy. They started talking to me. 343 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:51.279 I keep in mind they were kind of young guys 344 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:54.720 on a small pickup truck. They pull out their phone 345 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:57.720 and showed me a picture that they had captured on 346 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:01.960 their phone. And the picture was some tracks and some snow. 347 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:04.559 And I'm going to tell you, like I've told the 348 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:06.559 others before, when I've seen this picture, it was probably 349 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:09.920 the best looking pictures of tracks I've seen. And it 350 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:12.960 was on a side road or a backcountry road, and 351 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.240 I thought they would showing me something that they captured 352 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:19.480 from this general area up around Elkorn, But no, it 353 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:23.480 wasn't from Elkcorn. These large, clear humanoid tracks in about 354 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:26.559 a couple inches of snow, a whole long trackway off. 355 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:29.519 I said, where was this at? Over up my folks 356 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.160 run going on the outskirts of the hog Fin area, 357 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:37.119 and I was like, my job, I drop. I was like, really, 358 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:40.000 you know I at this point, I had just learned 359 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:43.359 of that location out there from a friend of mine 360 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:45.839 I used to work with who lived in Singers Glenn, 361 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:52.039 and he's told me some stories that he's experienced weird 362 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:56.640 things out there when he was younger. But so you know, 363 00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:58.799 this is just one story. I've heard stories from bear 364 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:03.480 hunters that claimed to have mean big foot sasquatch peeking 365 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:07.519 out behind trees out there on them, and uh, those 366 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:10.079 stories I find to be incredible because bear hunters know 367 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.559 what bears look like. They hunt bears all the time, 368 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:15.680 and there was no mistaken that they knew this wasn't 369 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:21.079 a bear that was watching them, you know. So yeah, yeah, yeah, 370 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:24.599 the folks run the Hogpin area. Yeah, I mean there's 371 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:28.440 reports of stories from this location that you won't hear 372 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:31.400 or see you or find on the b f R database. 373 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:35.440 So yeah, these these people have seen things out there, 374 00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:37.160 and a lot of people, there's a lot more than 375 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.319 probably witnesses, observe things out there. But you know, these 376 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:42.039 are country folks. A lot of them don't come forward 377 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:44.400 that easily. So you know, a lot of people like 378 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:47.160 to keep stuff to themselves. A lot of mountain folks 379 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:49.799 are quiet of things. But at the same time, once 380 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:53.359 they get to know you, get familiar with you, feel comfortable. Yeah, 381 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.000 they don't mind sharing stories like that, you know, as 382 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:00.240 long as they feel like they could trust you. Yeah, 383 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:05.599 absolutely so, But you don't I got a question for you. 384 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:07.880 I ask a lot of a lot of people this, 385 00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:11.880 you know, and as far as I'm concerned, there's no 386 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:15.279 wrong answer. Everybody has their own belief or whatever reason. 387 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:18.839 But my question to you is what do you what 388 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:21.680 do you feel? Well, what do you think Bigfoot might be? 389 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:28.599 I mean I've heard a lot of stories. 390 00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:31.680 I mean, I've heard people say that they're just like 391 00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:32.759 one of us, half. 392 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:38.200 Human and like half eight but you never know what 393 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:38.680 to believe. 394 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:44.960 But I mean my opinion, I mean, the way you know, 395 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:46.960 they walk on two feet, just like we do. 396 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:50.839 They're just like one of us. 397 00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:56.480 Right, So so you believe that they could be some 398 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:57.279 type of human. 399 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:04.039 I'm they could, but I mean I'm really I don't know. 400 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:06.160 That's always one of that. 401 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:12.880