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Speaker 1: How's it going? Clippers fans, Welcome to another Happy Hour

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live for Clips and dipp Maybe Unhappy Hour Live today

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on November the seventh. If you're listening to this and

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you miss the stream and you want to hang out

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on Fridays, which we do fairly regularly now, check us

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out at YouTube dot comish at Clippers Podcast. I am

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Chuck Buckler. Adam Osm is here. William up Ike should

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be here in just a few We talked about this,

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Adam before we started this stream. You asked me how

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am I feeling? Am I feeling any better the day

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after the loss? And I gave you a quick port

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respectful No, No, are you in the same boat? How

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are we feeling day officially day one of being three

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and five?

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Speaker 2: Maybe we're expecting too much with them not having James

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Harden and Kawhi in that game, and just the fact

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that they led the half should be seen as a positive,

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But it's just the pattern of getting smoked in second

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halves or just not having energy to close out games

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or to finish off games.

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Speaker 3: Going back to.

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Speaker 2: Game one, I mean, they haven't won a road game yet,

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so it's a continuous problem here. And then you go

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back to starting lineup.

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Speaker 3: It's be toom. Everybody wants Collins.

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Speaker 2: At least Cam Chirsty played and played well, but there's

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not a lot to go off of that can be

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seen as encouraging right now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I like what Alphonso Lopez is saying watching Dodger

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Highlights until the Clippers right the ship. It said a

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very similar thing, Dad, when we were sitting down for

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this one thing that is encouraging, I gave I gave

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this player the lone bright Spot award. Last night against

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the Suns, Cam Christie looked pretty good and is that

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particular game. He's confident, He's putting the ball on the floor,

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he used his length on defense, started to finish the

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fast break. I don't know how I feel about inserting

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him into the rotation, but sure, when people are hurt,

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get in there, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder how this is going to go the

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rest of the way.

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Speaker 2: If Bogie and CP three continue to struggle, is Cam

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Christie does he become a better option or at least

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just get more opportunities out there. I don't expect them

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to keep struggling, but if they do so, you need

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to pivot to Cam.

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Speaker 3: That could make sense to me. I thought he looked

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great in Summer league.

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Speaker 2: I thought he looked you know, he looked good as

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first Summer league, and then last year he really improved

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in areas we were looking for this past summer where.

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Speaker 3: He's getting downhill.

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Speaker 2: He put on a little bit size. His defense was better.

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He was in attack mode and you saw that in

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that play and transition. Yeah, yesterday up in the big leagues.

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Speaker 3: That was great to see. It didn't look like the

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moment was too big for him.

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Speaker 1: I like what clip Show for Life said here, who

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was also the first one to comment, congratulations, clip Show

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for Life. Tip of the hat, don't even care if

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they win. The blowouts are the thing that's infuriating. Yeah,

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as Justin Rousseau, our favorite French Canadian reporter pointed out,

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it's been the same. They've been three and four of

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the last like four years in a row or something

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like that. But if you look at those lines on

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Basketball Reference that show you how big you won or

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how big you lost, the lost ones are pretty big

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for the Clippers, except for one.

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Speaker 3: Right, they're right in line. They're in lockstep with past.

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The first teams that get blown out in Game.

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Speaker 1: Eight Yeah, they've they've lost a buzzer beater, they've won

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a buzzer beater, and they've been absolutely smoked a couple

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of times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, last year was kind of the outlier.

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Speaker 2: That was they were down twenty six, but it was

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their first win of the season. They came back against

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San Antonio and got the victoried into it the first

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win ever there. And outside that, this is pretty consistent

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with what we've seen, But that makes it all the

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much more frustrating. How do you not have a higher

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sense of urgency to finally get off to a good

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start this season. Well, there's some builts in excuses and

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Bradley BeO getting acclimated, and you haven't had Kawhi the

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last two games and James Harden the last game. It

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just still doesn't feel like I was driving around earlier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just just driving, just seeing seeing where it takes me.

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Speaker 1: Three and five. You didn't stop driving from last night,

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that's what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Cam Christy drives to the hole. I'm like, I'm

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gonna start driving and I'm not gonna stop. I was

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coming back from the jam and I was.

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Speaker 3: Like, what is it? It's hard to put your finger

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on one thing when this many guys are underperforming, and

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I came up with the hole is worse than some

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of its parts right now. Does that makes sense? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of.

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Speaker 2: Like better individual talent that is not coming together and

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it's taking them as a unit worse for some reason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're having well, they're short guys, and in being

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short guys, they're putting a crunch on a roster that

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doesn't seem as season or pace as you brought up

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on our last chat ready right, Like the death doesn't

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seem ready for what the pace is. The starters offensively

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seem ready for what the pace is. Not so much defense,

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but the depth is getting crunched, and it kind of

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feels like guys are over compensating, like I don't know,

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Like some of the turnovers are just that hook pass

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that Lopez through yesterday. Harden's been sloppy with it as well.

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I'm not singling out Brook Lopez obviously, but that turnover

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to me is the epitome of kind of the vibe

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right now. Speaking of the vibe right now, fellas, William

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Mupdyke is back.

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Speaker 4: I heal a little traffic on my way back. I'm

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here afresh on the new background.

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Speaker 1: Look at that.

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Speaker 5: It looks great, looks incredible.

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Speaker 1: We were talking being frustrated about this team, and and

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if we felt any differently today than we did yesterday,

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how are you feeling?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: Still feel like a big pile of shit. But least

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it's Friday, you know, so about the same.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 4: And they don't play, and they don't play, Adam, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It was objectively hilarious that the only NBA action uh

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free human beings could watch yesterday was Clipper's Sons. It's

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the only game that was that was.

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Speaker 6: Scheduled primetime TV. Baby, the hot button issue prevalent through

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the slow start. When are we gonna get serious and start?

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Speaker 1: John Collins? I think we got about fifteen more games

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before that enters the realistic question. I'm not saying that's

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the right thing, but.

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Speaker 5: Two more games.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's split the difference somewhere between two and fifteen.

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But like, there hasn't been enough of the regular starters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if Brad the Beal is in the starting lineup,

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who are you taking out?

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Speaker 3: I guess DJ for John Collins.

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Speaker 2: DJ has been one of the players that has actually

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played well so far this season.

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Speaker 3: This is not on him. That's a very tough conversation

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to have.

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Speaker 2: So I it really is we need to start with

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Beal is not coming out.

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Speaker 3: Coach Lou made that abundantly clear recently.

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Speaker 2: Unless that changes, you're talking about taking DJ out of

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the starting lineup.

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Speaker 3: Therefore, you don't have a point of attack defender. It's

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not the defense has.

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Speaker 2: Been good so far. But in theory you want one

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on the floor. So there's a trade off there. If

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you want John Collins but you don't want DJ.

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Speaker 1: Will are you on start Collins? The starter's defensive raigning

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right now in sixty three minutes is one hundred and

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thirty one with Derek Jones Junior on the court. So

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I don't think taking him out.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is like what we've been talking about

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since the acquisition.

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Speaker 4: Really, Like, you know, if you want to completely switch

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with the identity of this team, is sure it makes

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sense take take DJ out from what we've seen so far,

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you know, like knowing that Beal is going to be

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the starter, Like, I don't really see how that's the answer.

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And I also like, I know we're gonna talk about

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this fifty more times this season, but it doesn't matter

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it really, I just I have to be honest with you.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter who's starting, Like, uh, the.

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Speaker 1: Clippers will be bad anyway.

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Speaker 4: The Clippers will be bad anyways, and we can, like

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we can game matchups around it, like it doesn't it's.

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Speaker 1: You're Bruce Willison uh in jumper right now, It's.

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Speaker 5: A it's a paper tiger. The start the starting five

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is a paper tiger.

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Speaker 4: Like you can, like, it's more about how the minutes

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Speaker 1: And which has proven difficult too, because which.

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Speaker 5: Has proven difficult.

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Speaker 4: And Collins has looked really good in the spots that

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he's been at, Like it's not like he's being underutilized.

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Speaker 1: What's that Kawhi is out tomorrow? Oh boy again with

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the right ankle sprain.

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Speaker 5: If only for Kawhi John Collins?

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Speaker 1: Hey, I mean, maybe we do see Colins start now?

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Speaker 2: Right Like, if it's him or Batoom, it's hard to

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make the argument Batoomb's not scoring right now, he's struggling.

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Speaker 3: Why not Collins.

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Speaker 2: We're not even talking about when their whole and what

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that optimal starting lineup is. We're saying without Kauai, why

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not start Collins?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: To be fair, you may you may have more turnovers.

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Collins has nine turnovers the last.

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Speaker 3: Two games in some brutal ones.

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Speaker 2: So I do think that has to be mentioned for

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everybody screaming about play Collins more. And by the way,

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he's not Roco. He's already closed a game this season. Yeah,

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wasn't playing at all.

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Speaker 3: Stop it. You are the hyperbolics, talk about it? Come

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Speaker 1: And there has been La Clippers film posted some good clips.

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I'm a Collins is another. Collins and Derek Jones Junior

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might be the only guys on this list who have

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been good for the whole start to the year so far.

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He's still learning the offense. He still going to the

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dunker spot sometimes when he needs to go to the corner,

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which just adds a couple seconds to setting the play up.

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I'm not knocking him saying he shouldn't start or whatever,

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but like there's still some growing pains. But yeah, tomorrow,

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since things aren't falling for Batom, get him, put him

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in the starting lineup. What's the harm? Do it?

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Speaker 3: Well? Plus James Harden isn't on the injury report, so.

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Speaker 5: That is going to be active.

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Speaker 3: So hardened real DJ Cullins zubats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. Yes, doesn't that sound good?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, A lot of stuff has sounded good all summer.

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Speaker 1: A very good point.

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Speaker 3: It is not panned out so far.

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Speaker 5: The paper kings over here, we are papered. It sounds

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pretty good.

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Speaker 3: The paper Are you yeah?

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Speaker 1: Continuously?

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: It's okay? I guess what's our concern level for Kawhi's ankle.

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Speaker 2: I I did not expect him to miss the next

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it was just three straight games. Now, yeah, okay, see

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was is it his ankle? Is it a reason to

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not play him on back to backs? But he's missed

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the next two games? Now what are we talking about?

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Speaker 4: And it was surprising that he missed it, like just

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giving all the fanfare ahead of time about how he was,

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you know, clear for back to backs and he was

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good to go and he was gonna play them.

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Speaker 5: And then he doesn't.

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Speaker 4: And it's kind of like, okay, I mean that's like understandable,

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but now I'm wondering, like, okay, so maybe so that

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wasn't just like a maintenance thing. That was clearly a

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real issue now and now we're going three games deep,

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so it's it's concerning also.

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Speaker 5: Because it's just a new thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can we see that. No, it's worse because Adam

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and I talked about it too. When I first heard

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the like, oh, there's no restrictions for the back to backs.

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I was like, put some restrictions on man, Yeah, I

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don't want you to play back to backs.

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Speaker 4: And then when he got it, was like, okay, they're

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keeping him out of the back to back South Smart.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, now it looks a lot different. Yeah, like

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the on the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're it's season four. We got a we can

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make it say anything. This is a classic that I did.

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I showed this off the first time when Adam said

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something which I felt bad for.

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Speaker 5: We need a background. That's just Chuck giving the veteran

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the well will.

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Speaker 1: They Yeah, we can do that.

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Speaker 5: Oh we can do that, and the three of us

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all trying to hold him back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Where is the replay? Adam? Did you see the

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clip of when he heard his did he.

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Speaker 5: Go theruter on this yet?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I think it was did he turn it when he

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fell to the ground and they got an open three

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out of it?

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Speaker 3: Miami? It was Andrew Wiggins three on the right wing that.

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Speaker 1: They saw the replay. Alex Webb, if you could shoot,

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if you could go ahead and shoot that replay over.

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We would appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that he made it clear. It's seem mild,

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but I'm no doctor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, some people say they are a doctor when

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they're not, so I do appreciate that. Yeah, this makes

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me feel worse about tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: They have to win tomorrow. I don't give a damn.

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You have to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hart in his back, get Collins in there, or

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play him thirty minutes regardless, whatever this is. You can't

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start three and six and you can't lose to the

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same Phoenix team two games in a row.

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Speaker 1: No, not at all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's your cope level with the last loss? Just

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given that we were down guys, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, okay, this guy's paying us eight dollars super chat.

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Do y'all miss KPJ? Seeing how he turned out on

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the Bucks. He's hurt right now, So no, and not.

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Speaker 2: Really seeing out what they lost in the first round

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in like five games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I will say this. I think the Clippers

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problems are bigger than not having KPJ. I think the

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team would be in a same if all this team.

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Thank you for that. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: We need it.

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Speaker 1: We need it.

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Speaker 2: When when when Joannis ends up asking out of the bucks,

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I'll remember this super chat.

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Speaker 1: We'll put this eight dollars towards Jonas's contract.

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Speaker 5: He's like, I'm going and KPJ's coming with me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have to win tomorrow. I thought Zoo was

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gonna have a monstrous night last night, but that cooled

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off a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It was good.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I will say this Bill got like, I

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don't think it's coach speak or player talk afterwards to

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say he got a lot of good looks.

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Speaker 1: He had fourteen shots. Some of them are going to

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be good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if he gets that shot profile again in a game,

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you know he's probably hitting seven.

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Speaker 3: So hopefully that happens Saturday.

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Speaker 1: It needs to happen Saturday. We got another ten dollars

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from Jimmy Williams. Thank you for the Happy Hour live stream.

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Clippers fans didn't excuse to drink on a Friday evening. Yeah,

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there's no game, so we're your excuse to drink. I

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appreciate that. Jimmy Williams. Jimmy's always in the chat.

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Speaker 5: Yeah what are you drinking, Jimmy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Will How are you feeling about tomorrow? What do

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you want to see tomorrow? Oh? Hell yeah, Alex Webb,

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thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy drinking Jimmy Beam.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like.

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Speaker 5: Again with a short and squad.

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Speaker 4: It's hard, but like just the level of execution has

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not really been there.

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Speaker 5: Would love to see that tightened up.

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Speaker 1: Just maybe not lose or like, did they lose turnovers

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last night?

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Speaker 3: Uh? They definitely did in the third.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the total was because they were

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better in the first half. I think the Sun's had

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eleven and they had five.

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Speaker 4: But has there been one quarter, like at least one

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quarter every game where it just gets completely away from them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you're right, Jimmy Williams said, Torpedo, I

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p a, let's go.

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Speaker 3: That's like drinking a pine tree.

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Speaker 5: Is a two thumbs up for the stinkies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let me see. We got this Kawhi

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replay the kai An.

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Speaker 3: Let's see it.

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Speaker 1: It's probably gonna look like ship because the video is

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pretty small, but I'll do my best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I think he falls on the right wing.

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Andrew Wiggins gets a wide open three.

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Speaker 1: He's right here.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of tough to see from that ang goal.

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Speaker 3: What he got caught up with Harden?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: He yeh?

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Speaker 5: Or does he just land on it? Weird?

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Speaker 1: Oh he's no, he steps on hero.

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Speaker 5: See Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: We got it.

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Speaker 3: I was not Hero. Whoever it is, that's a guy

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he hasn't played yet. But the Italian guy, uh Nikola Yovich.

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I think I thought it was fun. Oh yeah, it

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might be.

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Speaker 1: Let me get some wad Man classic Cat Williams. Yeah yeah,

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not I do, Adam.

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Speaker 5: How quick are you returning from that?

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Speaker 2: I'm at depends uh what type of Uh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm out for the year.

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Speaker 1: So the Clippers, they got Suns tomorrow and then the

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Hawks on Monday. So let's hope he doesn't miss the

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Hawks game.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you what, Folks, losing the Suns twice,

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on losing the Hawks, I'd be in a pretty dark spot.

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Speaker 2: So if he comes back with the Hawks game, that

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means he would have missed a week.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's not crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's not crazy, but it sucks.

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, they should beat this Phoenix team regardless. Yeah

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at Jalen Green had a great game last night. Jalen

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Green is not always like that. He can be an

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absolute chucker and a volume shooter and a guy that

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actually hurts you.

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Speaker 3: And I think Houston was very glad to move on

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from him.

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Speaker 1: We don't have to use chucker like that as.

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Speaker 3: A Okay, sorry, he's a Charles Er, Damn god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he Robert Flamm had a funny tweet of something

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like losing to j Green is the worst way to lose,

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which I thought was funny. People are asking us there

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was a rumor that started today about Ja Morant coming

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to the Clippers. Maybe please know I agree. We're gonna

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do a quick audio break because you're gonna put this

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Speaker 4: All right, we're backing on this live stream if you're

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watching live over on YouTube dot com at Clippers Podcast.

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Speaker 5: We never left yet.

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Speaker 4: Uh, but we're talking about this some mumblings. Is there

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is there officially smoke?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brett Siegel.

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Speaker 5: There's some speculative smoke, but to certain.

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Speaker 1: Brett Siegel take that with a great couple of grains

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assault Uh Jason now Jason Uh said another team league

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personnel have mentioned as a team to watch if Moran

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became available as the Los Angeles Clippers. Steve Baumer is

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never afraid to pursue star level talent, and with James

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Harden not getting any younger, bringing in a twenty six

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year old point guard with dynamic, explosive style of play,

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Morant possesses first of all. Chat gpt wrote this.

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Speaker 2: Is this just reading tea leave speculation, like has some

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reclamation projects in the past.

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Speaker 3: John Morant kind of fits that. I we would be it's.

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Speaker 1: So bad with John Morant instead of James Harden leading

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the point because James Harden has gone.

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Speaker 4: He's a point guard? Are right, He's a point guard?

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I mean highest assist game. We looked this up the

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other day, it's like seven or eight assists.

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Speaker 2: My concern with John Moran is he is getting to

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the basket twenty one percent less of the time than

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he was like three years ago, and his frequency is

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way down from what it was his.

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Speaker 1: Highest West program, his highest assist per game is eight.

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Speaker 3: He wishes he's not young. He can be a very good.

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Speaker 2: Player, And I thought a couple of seasons ago, like

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job Moran. You know, he's he's one of the faces

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of the league. It sure felt like that.

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Speaker 1: They had motion. They were like the causes were terrifying.

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Speaker 3: And Joe was talking about the West. I ain't got

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no problems with the West. Since then, he's missed time

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for various reasons. I don't know. I would think it's unlikely.

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Speaker 1: If we had job Moran at shooting guard. First of all,

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no pun intended, I hope. Second of all, he can't

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shoot a basketball from outside.

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Speaker 5: Also, look at the Grizzlies. They were largely fine last

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year without him. Look at this team without James Harden.

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How are they?

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Speaker 1: We all we're in a pretty level headed pod. I

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feel like, but I love that this is causes so much.

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Speaker 5: Com This is foolish.

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Speaker 1: This is foolish, And I feel like, Adam, You're right,

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this is like completely made up. I think reading Tea

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leaves is a very polite way to say it, because

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it's like because his leaves over there, like because Harden's

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getting older, like he's not signed for six more years,

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you know what I mean. Like, yeah, there's a pretty

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hard stop where all the Clippers' money opens up.

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Speaker 5: Like the hard end to Harden.

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Speaker 1: There you go, and we need him anyone saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing too, Like if

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you've watched this team at all, since he's like since

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he's been here, including even the Paul George half season, like,

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he's clearly essential to what this team is doing. He's

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clearly a part of this identity, even though they've built

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more of a defensive thing, like he is the system,

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so we need at least another point guard of a

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similar ilk.

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand.

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Speaker 2: There is a little bit of a ground swell support

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for Jaw from some.

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Speaker 3: People in cliper Nation, and I get it if you

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haven't watched much recently.

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Speaker 2: It's like, it's not like he doesn't have a big contract,

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and also, how would that affect twenty six, twenty seven

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free agency and other moves they could make in the future.

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so you might as well go for Jaw. But if

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his athleticism is dwindling, that his game is predicated upon,

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that is.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it is.

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Speaker 2: I think he's definitely lost probably half a step, but

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may maybe you know, I don't watch.

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Speaker 3: Memphis Grizzlies every night.

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Speaker 2: He did have the second highest vertical jump last season

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in the league average or like now there's there's a

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new dunk uh measurement thing on NBA dot Com.

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Speaker 1: When I was growing up, you didn't measure dunks great.

476
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Speaker 5: And then what's the spacing around him?

477
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: No, with no hearten, I mean he jumps pretty high.

478
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,279
There's a lot of space on our knees.

479
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Speaker 1: Oh, for God's sake, he jumps on his shoulders. We

480
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:22,000
have an extra tall guy out there.

481
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Speaker 2: Will we're putting two level basketball this season because we

482
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,640
looked at this the other nine too afropo of nothing

483
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,559
like thirty three thirty four percent.

484
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Speaker 1: I think we were just kind of saying, how it

485
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,720
would be horrible if he was your point guard. His

486
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:40,079
best three point shooting year is thirty four percent, and

487
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,079
that was in twenty two, and he's taking he's taking

488
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,799
more every year since then, the shot worse. Here's his

489
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,319
last here's from twenty two to twenty three. Admittedly there's

490
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this is this account this year, which is eight games,

491
00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:57,640
and then twenty three twenty four, which was nine thirty

492
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,200
one percent, twenty eight percent, thirty one, fourteen percent this

493
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:04,720
year yeah, he's not a motivation thing.

494
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 5: He's a loath. He's a low thirty three point shooter.

495
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,519
Speaker 1: Like that's and like he's gonna make Zoo that much better.

496
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 5: Like he's not a.

497
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: Pass pick and roll.

498
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: His pick and roll numbers are really good, Like they've

499
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:20,200
been really good over the years.

500
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: I don't know where they are this year, but nothing.

501
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: I think we can throw this year out right because

502
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,720
like this year, yeah, yeah, that's.

503
00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 3: Fair and awesome.

504
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: He's how many games has he played the last three years?

505
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,119
It's he's twenty plus every oh, I think he's had

506
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,680
a year hsion twenty.

507
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: Or thirty since let's go just since he's been in

508
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,359
the league nineteen twenty uh sixty seven games, sixty three

509
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:59,319
fifty seven, sixty one, nine fifty. That's like we it's

510
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:05,720
an injury prone guy. Harden doesn't get hurt, knock on win.

511
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: I think Jaw has a legion of stands that just.

512
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,759
Speaker 1: You know, every bad point guard does.

513
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 2: If you're getting him, if the idea is we're talking

514
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,359
pennies on the dollar because of way things going in Memphis,

515
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,200
but I mean you.

516
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,759
Speaker 5: Have dollar because of the contract, and.

517
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: I also I agree, I.

518
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: Don't mean any disrespect to Memphis fans who like John Morant.

519
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,599
I understand drafting your guy and being like this has

520
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:35,640
to work. I'm saying from the perspective of Clippers trading

521
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,720
for John Rant to your point, Adam, like it's a

522
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,000
lot of money, it makes the Clippers worse.

523
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: I like this comment from Tony Toms nineteen to twenty four.

524
00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: He loves basketball. That's his damn avatar.

525
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: We don't need job with the LA Clippers really need

526
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,119
is last season's high defensive levels. Yes, they need their

527
00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,000
defensive floorback. They are are they a bottom five defense currently?

528
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: Right now?

529
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: After last nice game, I'm gonna check the new advanced numbers.

530
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,079
It's it's bad. And we go from top three to

531
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:12,119
almost bottom five. This is this is shockingly bad. Even

532
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,480
though it's just eight games.

533
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 3: I still would have been like it worse. They're fifteenth,

534
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:17,680
middle of the pack.

535
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,359
Speaker 1: They are. We're still twenty fifth.

536
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: That's it's almost bottom five.

537
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, right there, we're kissing bottom six. We're right

538
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,640
there to be.

539
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: It's on the bottom. We're back.

540
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: Damn. I don't like that.

541
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 4: We have like three games where we hold teams to

542
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,440
eighty points. We're right back in there.

543
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,319
Speaker 1: Baby, Yeah, you rip on us thirteen fourteen more times.

544
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,960
I swear we're at it here. I'm happy we're all

545
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,680
against the jam.

546
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:55,759
Speaker 3: Morane set squeaks from baseball. Yes, yeah, but you're a

547
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:56,319
little bitch.

548
00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: Had a hankering for that a couple of months ago

549
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,240
I watched it. First two acts are great, really falls

550
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,480
off of.

551
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Speaker 3: This, I agree.

552
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,079
Speaker 2: I felt like that when I saw it in the theaters.

553
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:08,640
The third act to me back then was like, yeah,

554
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,480
it's kind of what off.

555
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: The rails yet off the rails? Okay, so we're anti job.

556
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,839
People are saying, Trey Young, that's been a guy I know.

557
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,319
I don't think the Clippers are going for anybody. Also,

558
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,839
Jay the Boy saying twenty fifth is still cheeks. Yeah,

559
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,599
twenty fifth is terrible. Twenty fifth is not far off

560
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,079
from the very bottom.

561
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,079
Speaker 2: And I would like to point out for everybody that

562
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,039
comments type who over and over again in the comments

563
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:40,440
section and fire TYLERU, I would just like I would

564
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,920
just like to point out that when the defense was

565
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,680
good last.

566
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Speaker 3: Year, nobody gave Tyler an he credit. They gave all

567
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,559
the credits to Jeff Van Gundy. Yeah, now the defense

568
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,000
is bad.

569
00:30:55,759 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm saying, maybe not everything is co lose fault.

570
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,839
Speaker 3: I think I put this.

571
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:05,279
Speaker 2: On the players so far this year guys more so

572
00:31:05,319 --> 00:31:07,839
than anything. I just I think it's so lazy to

573
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,759
go after the coaches when you look at the turnover

574
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:15,680
mix that TOE mayre put out that, yeah, awesome.

575
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put that in the chat. Actually, Alex Webb

576
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:21,400
breaking news on our podcast saying Dylan Brooks upgraded for

577
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,880
the game tomorrow. That might help the Clippers.

578
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 7: Or hurt us horribly, And yeah, I like Brooks, but

579
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:38,759
I don't care.

580
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't care who's available for Phoenix. I almost don't

581
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,519
care who's available.

582
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:46,119
Speaker 3: You have to win.

583
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: They have to win. Uh.

584
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: Everybody keeps saying stop defending ty Lewis like, I defend

585
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:59,920
things that are defendable. They have turned the ball over

586
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,200
for in excess, and I don't put that on the

587
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,119
coaching staff.

588
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,799
Speaker 1: It's put a lot of turnovers. Someone on the YouTube

589
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,839
was funny, they were like, just don't play all the

590
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,079
injury prone guys together, and I was like, I don't

591
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:16,359
know what that has to do with anything. I don't

592
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:21,759
know what that helps. What do we he won? We

593
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:25,319
won fifty games last year and also things are bleak.

594
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:28,240
I don't think anyone who's listening to our shows recently

595
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:32,319
should think that we're sugar coating anything we don't feel good. Okay,

596
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:35,160
this is a good point. Adam is just a fan

597
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,720
of Oregon players.

598
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: I wore My Duck's hat in a while.

599
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: Like Dynastics and didn't get a fair shot.

600
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: Dylan was he did his knee.

601
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: Dylan uh was probably one of my least favorite guys

602
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,640
on that team that went to the Final four. But

603
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,680
I like the way he's changed his game in the NBA.

604
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,319
Like certain like Chris On, he was an offensive player.

605
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,160
Comes in the NBA, you got to make your bones

606
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:03,720
a different way.

607
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: How we felt about Lopez so far this season looks

608
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,680
a little creaky hot to start.

609
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the preseason, I think the Jazz game, he hit

610
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,160
a few threes.

611
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:24,519
Speaker 1: He has to hit threes or his like it's pretty rough.

612
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: Well the last was it last night? Or okay, c.

613
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: Where he hits a He hit a couple of non

614
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:38,400
three pointers. Finally was that last night?

615
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:43,079
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so his first three or four games

616
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:43,720
in Yeah.

617
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was good to see.

618
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: They just look out of sorts, Like the chemistry is

619
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,240
so off so disconnected.

620
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: Which is so weird because it felt like in the

621
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,839
preseason things were simpatico.

622
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:01,519
Speaker 3: Will would you say the whole is great than the.

623
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were thinking let's say, I mean from what

624
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,960
I thought coming into this season, Yes, like from from

625
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:18,880
what we've seen, the some of its parts would individually.

626
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 5: Indicate something greater.

627
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: So far, the some of their parts is one hundred

628
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,320
and thirty one defensive rate. Yeah.

629
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

630
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: And and I thought too, like just with a healthy

631
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:37,000
off season and you know, full training camp and everything.

632
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,159
Like I I really did not think it would look

633
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:46,280
this disjointed this early on. And I don't know, Like

634
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,719
I I really I'm at a loss as to what

635
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,239
to even attribute that to because it's not there's no

636
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:55,159
like major changes or shake ups and the coaching staff,

637
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,239
there's really no major changes.

638
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,559
Speaker 1: I mean like like guys been hurt in.

639
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 5: And out of the lineup for sure.

640
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:07,639
Speaker 4: Like even trying to to you know, like reform these

641
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:11,840
pieces into the same identity, uh that you had last season,

642
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,920
I guess that is.

643
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 5: Gonna be like more difficult maybe than I had thought.

644
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:20,199
Speaker 4: But it just just the on court like product, like

645
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,960
I said, was saying, the execution is just like it's

646
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,639
not been there and it doesn't look it. Yeah, it

647
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,239
just doesn't look very cohesive right now. And I don't know,

648
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,199
I just don't know what that is about. Is it

649
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:34,480
just I mean, we have somebody making a comment about

650
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:36,519
a team of unst like, is it just like guys

651
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:38,599
need to play their way into shape? Like I'm just

652
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,199
I'm really at a loss as to how it looks

653
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,639
just so disjointed.

654
00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: I want to I'm gonna pour another beer. But Adam

655
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:50,079
has a theory that I think is correct about why

656
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:54,719
the team looks slow. Tell me what it's the pace thing?

657
00:35:56,159 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: Oh their shell shock with how fast the NBA is

658
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,559
moving right now, I could see it.

659
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: In the seventies, right. Yeah, Bro, those cats, you gotta

660
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,320
assert yourself.

661
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: Duca's going, Wow, I can't controls Thelippers.

662
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 5: Too, Dude, you can't control the cat, Charles, you should know.

663
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,159
Speaker 1: Better than well. Yeah, you can't hone a horse, you

664
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:19,199
can't control the cat.

665
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,119
Speaker 2: I do think there's something to that, especially for the

666
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:25,360
older players like CP three out there.

667
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 3: I saw him moving well in the preseason. Yeah, it

668
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,599
looks like he's overthinking everything, maybe because they're not on

669
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:35,320
the same page. Offensively maybe because.

670
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 5: What the hell I think.

671
00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: He's shell shot from the way they're picking him up

672
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,639
full court and how many teams are doing it consistently.

673
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,800
The book was out on the Clippers the second half

674
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,079
of last season when it came to this stuff, and

675
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,480
then the league got even faster after they saw the

676
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,599
Pacers and Thunder get to the NBA Finals and said,

677
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:56,880
we need to do more of this too, And so

678
00:36:57,079 --> 00:37:00,840
everything is pointing in the wrong direction for this Clippers team.

679
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,079
Speaker 3: With how the NBA is trending.

680
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,639
Speaker 1: Do we think it holds up though, because the paces

681
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:07,400
are like pretty incredible right now, and we have seen

682
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,800
this in season six.

683
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 5: We have seen this in seasons past before too, where

684
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,440
like teams are playing at like a ridiculous pace that's

685
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,119
like twenty percent faster than the season before, and then

686
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:21,079
it does tail off after a certain point.

687
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:23,159
Speaker 1: Because teams will get tired. I don't think you can

688
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:25,320
play I don't think four teams can play one hundred

689
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,159
and six pace for eighty two games.

690
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:29,519
Speaker 7: No.

691
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,519
Speaker 2: I agree, it will regress at some point here, and

692
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,119
maybe the Clippers are just waiting for their moment for

693
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:39,880
that to happen.

694
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:42,039
Speaker 3: But how long is it gonna take is it gonna

695
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:46,599
take twenty games? But the real question is is what happened?

696
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:49,679
Is what's happening to the Clippers right now? Fixable internally

697
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,599
with what they happen.

698
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,079
Speaker 1: I think it is. The amount of veteran presence to me,

699
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:59,719
would suggest that they're they've gone through ups and downs

700
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,679
before or as pros, right, they should be able to

701
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,960
fix or just gradually fix, right, Like, let's just have

702
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,360
one game where we don't turn the ball over some

703
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,480
absurd amount in the quarter, Like I think it's fixable.

704
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 5: Let's have some fourteen turnovers.

705
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's have.

706
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,639
Speaker 2: Something they did when Kawai came back last season. That's

707
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:27,559
what I hate is seeing it would be one thing.

708
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:29,960
If it's still all on James Harden to do everything

709
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:32,760
like it was the start off last season, then you

710
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,440
know there's gonna be turnovers. But they had Kawhi healthy

711
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:38,320
the first five games and they still were turning it over.

712
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: Well and offensively, Like you look at shooting percentages, I

713
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,760
think Kawhi and Harden are averaging a combined like forty

714
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,960
seven points and they're both shooting over like it's like

715
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,440
forty seven points on forty nine and a half percent

716
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,280
from the floor. Like the offense, the shooting is there,

717
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,159
and we're remember when we would talk about kind of

718
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:01,320
wasting those the good Paul Jeorde and Kawhi Leonard games,

719
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:04,559
We're wasting some shooting wise.

720
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:08,079
Speaker 4: I do want to say one thing though, and this

721
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,079
is I agree things are bad.

722
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't say it.

723
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:14,679
Speaker 4: Things are bad. They have not they have not looked good.

724
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,679
How much differently do you feel about everything right now,

725
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,440
assuming everything else stays the same, had Kawhi just made

726
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,400
the shot versus.

727
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: The heat same because we had to have two buzzer

728
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,760
beat like the buzzer beater against the Pels I think

729
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,440
is brutal. We had to win a buzzer beater against

730
00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,039
quite literally the worst team in the league, and that

731
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,079
second half was rough. We almost threw that game.

732
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, but nobody loses eighty two games.

733
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean, oh wait, no, they won't. But I don't

734
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,559
know I feel the same, because why are we needing

735
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:54,800
two buzzer beaters, one against the Pells team that is bad.

736
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,159
It's I don't know, man, I would feel the same,

737
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,280
like the record would be good, but I think we'd

738
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,960
be having the same conversation of like, well, our losses

739
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,760
are still by nineteen points.

740
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, would be what they'd be four and four.

741
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 5: And yeah, exactly, But then you figure like, but then

742
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,800
you figure no ko no harden.

743
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:19,119
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I feel better if Gli wasn't

744
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:19,800
out tomorrow.

745
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Actually, that's a really good point.

746
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,199
Speaker 3: I didn't expect this.

747
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: Ob he's asking about zoo Zuo's had a rough start

748
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,000
to the year. That's been a surprise too, and that

749
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:37,679
this has been shocking. Shocking is a good word.

750
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,159
Speaker 2: But he also looked completely fine when they went to

751
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:42,760
him in the first half last night and he had

752
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,639
sixteen points. Like, everything is there, there's nothing missing from

753
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:47,599
his game. I know.

754
00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:51,119
Speaker 1: I guess in the I'm also getting stressed because we

755
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:54,920
need these damn wins. I think that's also making me

756
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,119
more critical of But he he's had one good game.

757
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: This many players playing this bad at the same time

758
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,280
is just really unfortunate and unlucky and unexpected.

759
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, as many.

760
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 2: An old that's the whole is lesser than some of

761
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,920
its parts. Theory, they're bringing each other down right now,

762
00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:27,039
good individual players that somehow are connecting out there on

763
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:27,400
the court.

764
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: Do they need to take the ping pong tables out.

765
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,079
Do we need to go football team that's playing bad

766
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:36,679
and remove all extracurricular fun things.

767
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 5: Have Lamar come in there and give a pep talk.

768
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: Have Steph Curry come talk about how good the popcorn is.

769
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 5: I did that for y'all.

770
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,519
Speaker 1: That popcorn you're eating. Dude, play better.

771
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: They need to play defense. They need to play defense.

772
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:01,239
It's an all starts there.

773
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 3: That's it.

774
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: The starters.

775
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 4: And when I say the Stars would be the team

776
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,000
to put that together against.

777
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: You would think, Yeah, was getting to the rim like

778
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:21,320
Allen iverson yesterday. I was like, what is this? Yeah?

779
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,440
I was like, why are we letting him do this?

780
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:27,599
Like what the law? Murray had a great tweet too.

781
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:31,719
There was a loose ball in the paint and he

782
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,840
tweeted something like, loose ball in the pain, I don't

783
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,239
see a single guy on the floor, like and I

784
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,800
think that was more of a comment of just like

785
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,480
how Wa plays basketball, hustle, but like he's got a

786
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:45,519
point man, Like let's get a little grit with what

787
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:49,679
we're doing. Not it's that weird dirty shit, but like

788
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,320
you said, like defensive identity.

789
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: When they got off to what were they last year?

790
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: Were they four and four? After eight were they ten

791
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:02,800
and ten something like that. Yeah, we were fine with

792
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,559
it because they were still maximizing their potential given who

793
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:10,519
was available, and they were playing great defense, and it traveled.

794
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:13,800
There was a consistency to it, and we finally had

795
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,920
a real identity that should not have regrets to this

796
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:22,880
point in eight in even which is eight games so far,

797
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,599
it should not be this bad. So maybe it is

798
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:27,800
some of the little things the hustle plays they're not

799
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:28,519
doing out there.

800
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 3: Gods just aren't simply playing as hard.

801
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:34,599
Speaker 5: Do they know how serious it is?

802
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:38,119
Speaker 1: Are they aware of the stakes.

803
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: I've said this before and people.

804
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 4: Said understanding the locker room strength of schedule and how

805
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,039
that works, and how you should be playing better than

806
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:52,639
five hundred during your easiest stretches of basketball.

807
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: And I will say, I think you get myself, little

808
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,679
pat on the back. I haven't even mentioned March yet.

809
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 5: I knew what was coming.

810
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: Though, I haven't even made a restraint.

811
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,519
Speaker 1: The eighteen games in March. What is this team going

812
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:08,039
to look like?

813
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:11,679
Speaker 3: Chuck full restraint mockler.

814
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to make up for these games somewhere.

815
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,840
So if the idea is we're going to take our

816
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,639
lumps to the beginning. But it's going to pay off

817
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:22,360
down the line.

818
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 4: We're going to see it in fifteen of seventeen to

819
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,199
close off the season.

820
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: Again, he just fifteen to seventeen. The end of the season,

821
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,719
they will get swept in the playoffs.

822
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: I agree with that.

823
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: I don't like like last year they did won eighteen

824
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,679
of twenty one, they get a week off, they still

825
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,119
lost to.

826
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 3: Denver in the first round. What was a very winnable series.

827
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: Some games will's birthday.

828
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,599
Speaker 2: I would love it if they could find a way

829
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:58,519
to not some people think, oh, you're more battle tested

830
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:00,480
if you have to fight at the end of the season.

831
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be great.

832
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 5: To not have to do some of that now average

833
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,079
for seven.

834
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like save it up, store up some energy for

835
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,880
the playoff run if you want to have a long one.

836
00:45:11,199 --> 00:45:14,199
But now it seems like they're gonna be fighting, like

837
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:15,800
if they're gonna have a chance of getting a top

838
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,119
three seed. Now, guys, oh, oh.

839
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: We can show that one in the door.

840
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: Well after eight games, being able to say that and

841
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,199
be like, yeah, it's hard to argue shuck that that

842
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,599
hasn't that horse hasn't left the barn. That is pretty

843
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:39,519
shocking that after eight games were like, oh, I guess

844
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:40,800
we're not getting the top three seed.

845
00:45:41,039 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: It's like, damn, are you kidding me?

846
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:47,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I maybe I am jumping the gun a

847
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:50,679
bit right now. The top three seeds are eight and one,

848
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,599
seven and two and five and two and four and

849
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:55,039
five are five and two.

850
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: Who are the three teams three?

851
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: It has the same record though, it's Lakers, Nuggets, and

852
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,119
Spurs all at five and two.

853
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then.

854
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: Are seven and two, the Lakers being seven and two also,

855
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,760
I saw some Earls have.

856
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: Some question marks, but I think the Spurs are. I

857
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,559
don't know. It doesn't feel good. Lakers has passed us.

858
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 5: By at him.

859
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,119
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if the game of basketball has passed them

860
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:30,400
by at this point with how fast they're playing out

861
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,079
there compared to this Clippers roster.

862
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,079
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we still have a shot at winning the

863
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:42,639
nd season tournament. You ever heard of it? You ever

864
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:49,440
heard of the Emirates Cup. The season does make me

865
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,119
feel punched drunk, just with how rough the losses have been.

866
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,519
Buzzer beat losing on a buzzer beater or getting blown

867
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:00,800
out is how the Clip have lost.

868
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: If you go back to.

869
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:09,519
Speaker 2: Game five against Denver last season, they have been getting

870
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:13,039
blown out in the second half of games on the road.

871
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:18,159
Going back to that playoff series game five, that is alarming,

872
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,519
Like they're it feels like they're letting go of the

873
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:21,280
rope a little bit.

874
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: We're one game better than the Maps.

875
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god. That that really puts things in perspective.

876
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: A franchise that made a crazy trade.

877
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 3: Uh, but that's one way to put it.

878
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:42,519
Speaker 5: But we do have as the Jazz.

879
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have to head to head tire.

880
00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's so funny. Uh, Wami is saying, assume

881
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:56,840
you guys have already talked about Beal. We talked about

882
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,559
Bill a little bit last It was incredibly disappointing. There's

883
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:06,760
no way to sugarcoat at Uh. It's still I still

884
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,360
wonder what his shot diet looks like. When Kawhi and

885
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,840
when the full actual starting lineup can string more than

886
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,719
two games together. Start the starting five that was supposed

887
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,320
to be hardened Beal, Kawhi, Derkton Junior and Zoo have

888
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,800
played sixty three total minutes over eight games. We don't

889
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,360
know what the offense like looks like. We don't know

890
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,760
what his shot diet looks like within this offense, which

891
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,719
is what has me a little worried.

892
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: Shoot, sure to shoehorn a couple of metaphors together.

893
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: Let's do it, dude. We've been killing it with the

894
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,760
metaphors today.

895
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 5: You've been bringing it over there.

896
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

897
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,039
Speaker 2: Is it possible to pull out of a tailspin while

898
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,840
building the plane and flying it like.

899
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise could do it? Mission impossible.

900
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,199
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like if they're going to have

901
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,599
a sense of urgency and we already have an injury

902
00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:05,159
going on with Kauhi.

903
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,599
Speaker 3: Afc sells out of reach.

904
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:17,679
Speaker 2: Cultsally great at some point it'sin the next week. If

905
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,679
you're still losing and trying to play the long game,

906
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:30,960
but you're now let's say you're six and ten, do

907
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:33,119
you just have to go kitchen sink approach every night

908
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:36,320
and play the best guys available? Yes, and just figure

909
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,639
this out on the fly, which is the whole build

910
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:39,679
a plane while you flyed thing?

911
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: First of all?

912
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 5: What else is there?

913
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: I think the metaphor totally hit and if they are

914
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,519
six and ten, they do have to somehow build the

915
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:54,280
plane while pulling out of a tailspin and not looking

916
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,119
the gift to us in the.

917
00:49:55,079 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 4: Mouth maybe he was bringing all these old players together

918
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,119
and trying to like re fit the mold of an

919
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:06,840
identity that was so successful for us last year. Is

920
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,559
the equivalent of those guys who tried to redo the

921
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:11,760
Right Brothers for play and died.

922
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: Feels like that. It's a great story that was man.

923
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,519
I went to the Outer Banks in North Carolina on

924
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:23,079
a big anniversary of the Right Brothers flight. Not for that,

925
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:25,320
not for that reason. I just happened to be there.

926
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,719
You're not a fan of aviation, no, uh, and I'm

927
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,000
living it up right now. But these two guys recreate

928
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:34,840
tried to recreate the Right Brothers plane and they flew

929
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,880
it off a cliff and they dined. I was the

930
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,559
only one in the family reunion who thought it was funny.

931
00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:43,760
Tony Topes is saying, how many more wins would we

932
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,119
need to have to feel like we have righted the

933
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,159
lac ship. We're at the twenty game mark. Where are

934
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,760
we at to feel that you've righted the ship?

935
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: When they're at the twenty game mark?

936
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, what do you want?

937
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,079
Speaker 3: Plast the record?

938
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 5: Five?

939
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: Yep? I would feel great about that.

940
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 3: Uh, twelve and eight are better.

941
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,039
Speaker 1: Twelve and eight would feel good because that we would

942
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:17,079
be playing good basketball because we're without Kawhi tomorrow, so

943
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:18,400
we might lose tomorrow.

944
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 5: Just win twelfth straight.

945
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: I like that idea. M win twelve straight.

946
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,679
Speaker 3: Okay, it's just dine straight.

947
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: No, we should win twelve straight too, See Adam, this

948
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,320
is why the coaching is all fucked.

949
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 3: Who is the guy that said we just win? Here's

950
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,039
the game plan.

951
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,039
Speaker 1: That was al Davis? Just win? Baby? Was that trouser?

952
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:48,880
J Slacks says, just for fun, if we're below five

953
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,679
hundred at the trade deadline, what would it take to

954
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,480
get jaw We already talked about this. I don't think

955
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,079
you'll find that deal. I don't think you could put

956
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:58,599
three people in a room together in twenty twenty six,

957
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,639
twenty twenty five, whatever it is, and get them to

958
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,599
agree on one thing as hard as us three agree.

959
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:09,880
I'm not wanting jamrant on this team, and no disrespect

960
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,880
to the question, because it's been floating around, but that

961
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:14,559
would be hell.

962
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,159
Speaker 2: I'd have to see what the trade is, but I

963
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:20,599
don't she's pretty unlikely.

964
00:52:20,679 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: Where's that? What's that?

965
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,639
Speaker 4: If the if the biggest issue is still pace and

966
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:33,639
the trade is job for Harden and a couple of seconds.

967
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 5: Sure, well we'll kick the tires on that.

968
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: What you're looking at his contract?

969
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: No, I'm looking I'm in fans bow trade machine, a

970
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,760
better a superior trade machine to ESPN. I'm in too deep.

971
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,840
So John Morant, and we're also just saying, who cares

972
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,000
about the apron whatever? John Morant's at all? Right, So

973
00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:00,360
we get John Morant, we trade Jane It's.

974
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: Hard, yeah, John Moran blows up all their twenty twenty

975
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,119
six twenty twenty seven plans. He makes thirty nine million

976
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:09,639
this year.

977
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: Well, and they're also like hard caps, so like the

978
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:17,599
Grizzlies are also in a weird spot contractually, so it

979
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:18,360
makes it weird.

980
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: He's under contract till twenty twenty eight, right, it would be.

981
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 5: So maybe we just push this rebuild back to twenty

982
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,440
thirty fellas we call.

983
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,559
Speaker 3: It good, that is when they get their first round pickback.

984
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: Damn. The trade seems hard to do.

985
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not easy. Clippers have more flexibility than the

986
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Grizzlies because.

987
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: To but despite making the same amount per fans both

988
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,079
thirty nine point four for Jaw thirty nine point one.

989
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:02,519
And then I'm just going I know that the trade

990
00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:05,639
wouldn't be straight out, but salary wise, that should work.

991
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:11,599
We're hard capped at the first aprin so we'd be

992
00:54:11,679 --> 00:54:17,239
over the cap. And he and James also can't be traded.

993
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,760
Uh so I guess that would work. Three months haven't

994
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,480
passed since he was signed. He's okay, He's hels laughter

995
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:29,639
October sixth, okay, fuck fans, but never mind, it'd.

996
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,039
Speaker 3: Be I got it. I got a head out, boys,

997
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:34,480
not just because the jaw talk. I just gotta get

998
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:36,039
out of here. I got a head out.

999
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: Have a good one out.

1000
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,599
Speaker 3: Duck is destroying me. A love y'all.

1001
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,039
Speaker 1: Love you promote your show.

1002
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ox Sports Radio tonight five seventy locally starting out

1003
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,239
eleven were there?

1004
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: Good bye buddy. Yeah. I don't know, man, it doesn't

1005
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:56,880
feel great.

1006
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 5: No, it feels terrible. Feels like.

1007
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: The thing that's difficult is because I'm trying to rationalize.

1008
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,840
I'm like, there's so much wrong with the team.

1009
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 5: It's nothing that winning twelve straight can't solve.

1010
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: Have they tried winning twelve straight? This is a funny

1011
00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:19,920
clip clip show for Life has at some good bits.

1012
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,840
Elon became the first trillionaire before the Clippers won a championship. Yeah,

1013
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:25,719
whoop do you do?

1014
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:28,119
Speaker 5: Evil prevails in this world? What do you want me

1015
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:28,480
to say?

1016
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,039
Speaker 1: Trouser j Slack saying I like j'all and the Clippers

1017
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:33,800
for all the wrong reasons. I feel like if the

1018
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,440
league is gonna treat us like villains, you might as

1019
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,000
well lean into it. Honestly, Sure, I'm fine with that.

1020
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,039
We just turned complete heel, the complete antithesis of the

1021
00:55:44,039 --> 00:55:50,400
brand that they've built would be pretty funny. On court, Yeah,

1022
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,400
Warblade is saying it wasn't necessarily injuries that he missed

1023
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,119
so many games, but because he kept getting suspended for

1024
00:55:56,159 --> 00:55:58,320
the off court stuff that doesn't.

1025
00:55:58,079 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 5: Which makes you feel good.

1026
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:02,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't necessarily make me feel that much better.

1027
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 5: Basically hard to get in trouble in LA lost A.

1028
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think it's h ell full heel. I

1029
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,000
will Hey, how about this? I would take both kinds

1030
00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:23,559
of heel. We turned full heel to be an evil.

1031
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,639
We turned full heel. We get some manna and Kawhi's

1032
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:30,360
ankle is good to go, and everyone's at you know,

1033
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,079
one hundred shield, one hundred health.

1034
00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 5: How worried are you? A hardened as a late scratch.

1035
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: A late scratch because of injury or because of the

1036
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:47,039
personal reasons. Either because okay, personal reasons. I feel infinitely

1037
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:50,480
better late scratch because of injury, and like he's tripped

1038
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:51,800
on the way to the arena.

1039
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,159
Speaker 5: He heard himself.

1040
00:56:55,199 --> 00:56:57,199
Speaker 1: It is unclear why he had the personal reasons. Thing

1041
00:56:57,199 --> 00:57:02,360
I hope is everything is cool with James Harden. Someone's

1042
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,360
asking why does Kawhi have another day off? He sprained

1043
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:12,079
his ankle, but he's at prudered it not forty five

1044
00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:14,239
minutes ago. Pretty well?

1045
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, go back because it does look not great.

1046
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: It looks not great. And it's also like I didn't

1047
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,840
want Kawhi to play back to backs. I thought it

1048
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,920
was crazy we were going to play him back to backs,

1049
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,559
and now I think it shows that he's a fragile player.

1050
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:36,320
And I don't mean that disrespectfully. The guy gets hurt. Yeah,

1051
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,559
so don't play in the back to backs.

1052
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: It's like a microchip.

1053
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: He's like a microchip, dude. Yeah, he's not a robot anymore.

1054
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,119
He is a microchip. That is how fine tuned to

1055
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:55,760
is prosis is? So the next five games, the next

1056
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:03,039
six games, break it down, Suns, Hawks, Nuggets, MAVs, NBA Cup,

1057
00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:09,920
group stage Celtics seventy six ers. MAVs Celtic seventy six

1058
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,519
ers is a road trip and the Celtic seventy six

1059
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:18,880
ers is a back to back. My god, we have

1060
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,800
no kawhi against the Suns. I guess the Mavericks is

1061
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,719
a way too. So that's five and oh that's a

1062
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:33,599
damn dude, that's a three and four all away for

1063
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,840
MAVs Celtic seventy six ers.

1064
00:58:37,239 --> 00:58:43,559
Speaker 5: Five and oh, that that's tough. I don't know I'd

1065
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:44,719
consider going five and now.

1066
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, JJ, the boys on on your on your size,

1067
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,679
that all I heard was doing. I will say the

1068
00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:57,159
gallows humor from Clippers fans, we love it.

1069
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 4: I tend to, honestly, if things are going bad, that's

1070
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,360
the time for you to bring the VOTs.

1071
00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: When things are going bad, I would say, I think

1072
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,760
we both get better at making things not seem as

1073
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,960
hellish when things are going good. It's not as fun.

1074
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:13,599
If I'm being totally honest, I don't want to see

1075
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:15,039
to be bad. Obviously.

1076
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,679
Speaker 4: I do think if that shot falls against the heat

1077
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,159
and we're four and four right now, it's still not

1078
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,039
great and the defense is still terrible.

1079
00:59:23,719 --> 00:59:28,239
Speaker 1: And the turnovers are bad, but it feels you're still

1080
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,239
having a bad start.

1081
00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 5: It feels slightly more manageable.

1082
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:36,679
Speaker 1: It feels whatever the winning percentage change from three and

1083
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,239
five to four and four is, it feels that much

1084
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:43,159
more manageable. I mean, there's twelve and a half percent

1085
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:44,000
more manageable.

1086
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 5: Five hundred ball is still better than I can't do

1087
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,360
the math on we're we're at right now, punch.

1088
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:58,519
Speaker 1: My gunn window. So if we can go, I think

1089
00:59:58,519 --> 01:00:01,440
the Nuggets will prove to be a difficult test. Call

1090
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:06,920
me crazy, and I yeah, we probably split the back

1091
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,960
to back because one of the games is also twelve thirty.

1092
01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:13,440
That's LA time, so it's three thirty.

1093
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 5: That's even crazy.

1094
01:00:17,639 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: Well, it's six games because we got so you're we

1095
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,639
got Sons, Hawks, Nuggets, MAVs, Celtic seventy.

1096
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:24,639
Speaker 5: Six ers for two.

1097
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:31,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, four and two gets us to five hundred. Awesome,

1098
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:48,760
right where we want to be where you can Yeah.

1099
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 5: If at twenty games.

1100
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,199
Speaker 1: We'll be if we go four two at five hundred,

1101
01:00:54,239 --> 01:00:58,880
after fourteen we're at seven and seven and so then

1102
01:00:59,199 --> 01:01:01,360
then after that we it's six more games.

1103
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 5: So we go four and two and then four and

1104
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:08,440
two again, and that doesn't feel that bad.

1105
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:15,519
Speaker 1: I feel like games, Okay, it doesn't. The games after

1106
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:23,000
that six are at the Magic, at the Hornets, at

1107
01:01:23,039 --> 01:01:31,239
the Calves, at Lakers, Grizzlies at home, Mavericks at home

1108
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:31,880
that last.

1109
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,119
Speaker 5: But I mean it would be, it would be there's two.

1110
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: Back to backs in there.

1111
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:42,639
Speaker 5: It would be incredibly difficult. But being at twelve and

1112
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:43,960
a and at twenty games would be.

1113
01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't think we will be. There's two. There's we

1114
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,960
have a back to back over the next six and

1115
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,800
then the next six there's two.

1116
01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:54,519
Speaker 5: Back to backs eleven and nine.

1117
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:01,119
Speaker 1: Fine, fine, we'll go be elevel and Nick saying we're

1118
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:03,159
in the right. We're in the Mario Kart spot. Boys,

1119
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:06,920
we need a blue shell. Is there a blue shell

1120
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,639
we can and I'm not even talking about the first seed.

1121
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,159
Let's knock out whoever's in that playing spot. Back down

1122
01:02:13,199 --> 01:02:19,679
to where we're at. Yeah, Jimmy, Jimmy Chong is speaking

1123
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:22,039
some knowledge. Tickets are cheaper and there's less pressure in

1124
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:23,000
the beer costs the same.

1125
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 5: All right, you're making a lot of sense, but the.

1126
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:31,039
Speaker 1: Beer is all me am I right, guys, I don't know, man.

1127
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:32,119
I hope you win tomorrow.

1128
01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 5: I hate losing of the Sons.

1129
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,039
Speaker 1: I hate the Sons.

1130
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 5: I hate how much we played them so early in

1131
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,440
the season. I hate that they've won one game.

1132
01:02:44,159 --> 01:02:49,079
Speaker 1: I really and it's like, yeah, I just I dislike

1133
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:53,159
them so much. Yeah, they're stupid, annoying own her. Do

1134
01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:54,840
you have anything else to say about the Clippers?

1135
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,599
Speaker 5: Team win more games?

1136
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,119
Speaker 1: J Bo's is saying eight to the party. Is this

1137
01:03:01,159 --> 01:03:03,199
a pity party or a fun party? It's a fun

1138
01:03:03,239 --> 01:03:03,880
pity party.

1139
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's both. I would say a little call, a

1140
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:08,920
little calm bank.

1141
01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. We're gonna head out. Thank you eye for

1142
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,599
hanging out. We're trying to bring some fun vibes. Yeah

1143
01:03:17,679 --> 01:03:20,960
to this this horrific start for the Clippers.

1144
01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 5: All they need is a twelve game winning streak.

1145
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: Will what were you drinking tonight? Because it is a.

1146
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 5: Happy hour tomorrow.

1147
01:03:29,679 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh fancy, We're like a moro because I just want

1148
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:40,280
another one. Exactly, I had a Guinness and a Mason jar.

1149
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:41,679
Speaker 5: I see that.

1150
01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: That's how we're living over here. Devin's Booker's face is

1151
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,880
the most annoying in the league. Don't get me started

1152
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:52,920
on his shoes. His shoes are disgusting. Yeah, We're probably

1153
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:58,519
gonna do a full episode on Sunday, just to talk

1154
01:03:58,639 --> 01:04:01,280
what's coming up next week for the clips and reacts

1155
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,480
to whatever the hell happens tomorrow against the Suns. Jimmy Williams,

1156
01:04:05,719 --> 01:04:07,880
thank you for coming through. Thanks you everyone for hanging out.

1157
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1158
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: Well, if people are listening to this, because we are

1159
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,119
going to put this out on audio, where can they

1160
01:04:14,679 --> 01:04:17,639
voice their thoughts on the quality of this podcast.

1161
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're listening to this, you can what you

1162
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:21,239
can listen to wherever you get your podcasts. You can

1163
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,519
go ahead leave us a little rain or review over

1164
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:26,199
on Spotify or Apple podcast. It would really help us out.

1165
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,039
I don't know if you can review on Google podcasts.

1166
01:04:28,119 --> 01:04:30,079
Let me know, leave a leave a review. We'll find

1167
01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:30,719
it somehow.

1168
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: We have a review that we don't know if you

1169
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:34,400
can leave, we'll read it.

1170
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 5: We'll read it.

1171
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,199
Speaker 4: The best way you can see the show is over

1172
01:04:37,239 --> 01:04:41,760
on YouTube dot com. That's at Clippers Podcast. Yeah, you

1173
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,920
can catch this live, you can you can chime in,

1174
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,519
be part of the conversation. But whoever you listen, however

1175
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:48,280
you watch, you know we appreciate you.

1176
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: We absolutely do. Clip Show for Life says thanks guys,

1177
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,360
It's great not to feel alone in this Clipper's life

1178
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,599
of pain. That's what we.

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Speaker 5: All signed up for, that's what we chose.

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Speaker 1: You didn't join the show if you thought it was,

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you know, because of success. Thank you Jon for hanging out.

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We'll be back on Sunday. Have a safe weekend and

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as always, let's go Clipse.