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Speaker 1: inside scoop from Breitbart News Today the return of Kalamadi
Speaker 1: and he is the tech editor at Breitbart and bookmarket folks.
Speaker 1: I would like to start out the segment reminding you
Speaker 1: it's b R E I T B A R T
Speaker 1: Breitbart dot Com. Some great reporting there and of course
Speaker 1: outside of the the legacy media Columbadi and welcome back
Speaker 1: to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. My friend's a
Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on today and the time. He
Speaker 1: couldn't be better considering what happened to paveld Durrov.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Brian happy to be here with you.
Speaker 1: He was the founder of this apparently wildly, wildly popular
Speaker 1: social media program. It's a platform I guess analogous to
Speaker 1: a Twitter or a TikTok or something, but it's called Telegram.
Speaker 1: And he was arrested not from what he did, but
Speaker 1: apparently what he didn't do. He allowed people to speak
Speaker 1: their mind and engage in the free exercise of ideas,
Speaker 1: including some kind of terrible stuff, you know, terrorism and
Speaker 1: racism or whatever whatever. The European Union is deemed in
Speaker 1: its infinite wisdom to be verboten. He got arrested for
Speaker 1: it merely because he provided the platform. Are they not
Speaker 1: aware of? Like, for example, Colin, I have to throw
Speaker 1: this one out there. You can say whatever you want
Speaker 1: and someone whatever you want through the mail, You can
Speaker 1: talk to and say whatever you want on a telephone,
Speaker 1: and you can even go right now, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: it to Amazon and get a copy of The Anarchist Cookbook, which,
Speaker 1: according to the author, I detailed advice concerning electronics, sabotage, surveillance,
Speaker 1: date on everything from bugs to scramblers. There's a comprehensive
Speaker 1: chapter on natural, non lethal and lethal weapons, running the
Speaker 1: gamut from cattle prodz to submachine guns to bows and arrows.
Speaker 1: The section on explosives and booby trap ranges from TNT
Speaker 1: to whistle traps. He goes on, But there it is.
Speaker 1: It's free speech. It's a published book. You can go
Speaker 1: buy it. They're not being held accountable for that, Colin.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a great point, Brian, and it's France
Speaker 3: looks worse and worse every day as this telegram situation unfolds.
Speaker 3: And there's a number of reasons why. The latest is,
Speaker 3: you know, they're coming at him. One of the charges
Speaker 3: is related to, you know, child pornography being spread on
Speaker 3: this platform and you know, related sexual imagery. Now, the
Speaker 3: problem with that is the greatest spreader of child pornography
Speaker 3: and discussing sexual imagery on earth is Mark Zuckerberg on
Speaker 3: Instagram and Facebook. You don't see him quicking in his
Speaker 3: boots worrying about France arresting him. So what we're seeing
Speaker 3: here because the political prosecution, you know, being covered up
Speaker 3: as oh, it's for the children, and oh it's the
Speaker 3: fight drugs, which is you know, kind of familiar language.
Speaker 3: Does in the US we see the left saying that,
Speaker 3: you know, this is why we got a combat free speech.
Speaker 3: To me, what's really going on here is an extension
Speaker 3: of what we've seen unfolding around all of Europe. Like
Speaker 3: in the UK. The problem to these powerful governments aren't
Speaker 3: the crimes being committed like the horrible, horrific knife murders
Speaker 3: of children, the problem isn't that crime. The problem is
Speaker 3: people talking about that crime. That's what England is throwing
Speaker 3: people in jail for. And now France has thrown this guy.
Speaker 3: You know, he made the unfortunate decision to take French citizenship,
Speaker 3: which I don't think anyone should ever do that. I
Speaker 3: would advise against it, just not because it's France. But
Speaker 3: in this case, you know, this Russian born guy has
Speaker 3: his platform with a couple of billion users and he
Speaker 3: landed at an airport to go to his house and
Speaker 3: he was thrown in jail. And the reason is the
Speaker 3: government doesn't like what people are saying to each other
Speaker 3: on his platform.
Speaker 1: But again, you know, nothing more effect than the exploitation
Speaker 1: of children for any reason whatsoever. It is a crime
Speaker 1: to do that. If people are exchanging this information on
Speaker 1: this social media platform, they are engaging in criminal activity,
Speaker 1: I will admit. But then again, if you want child porn,
Speaker 1: I suppose you could put in the US mail and
Speaker 1: mail it to whoever you want to send it to.
Speaker 1: The US mail is not going to be responsible for
Speaker 1: the content of what's in any given envelope or container.
Speaker 1: You have committed a crime. They could go after the
Speaker 1: people who perpetrated these acts of horrific evil by virtue
Speaker 1: of them being and having a presence on this particular site,
Speaker 1: it would make their job that much easier, it seems
Speaker 1: to me, Colin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to clean up child pornography, and
Speaker 3: I certainly do it. Yeah, But you know, it's a
Speaker 3: major issue that we cover extensively at Bright Part. It's
Speaker 3: one of the largest problems on the Internet is grooming
Speaker 3: and child pornography and how those crimes are facilitated by
Speaker 3: the Internet. You don't go after the head of the
Speaker 3: platform with the exception of trying to force them to
Speaker 3: actually enforce rules and figure these things out. You go
Speaker 3: after the people spreading it, because there's people making millions
Speaker 3: of dollars, if not billions, in facilitating these crimes. So
Speaker 3: you know that's not Francis answer. Francis answer is we
Speaker 3: must arrest this guy and try to shut down his
Speaker 3: platform because of these you know, these Trump charges essentially.
Speaker 1: Well, and moving away from the obvious horrors of child
Speaker 1: pornography over to what you pointed out is happening in England.
Speaker 1: That is political discourse. If there are people rioting in
Speaker 1: the streets, people are going to have comments on it,
Speaker 1: they're either going to approve it, they're going to be
Speaker 1: against it. They're going to point to the evil doers
Speaker 1: and make comments about them. They're going to point to
Speaker 1: the perpetrators of violence and say things about them, either
Speaker 1: supportive or against them. And this is all important political discourse.
Speaker 1: But if you utter a syllable that, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: in support of maybe the the rioters who are upset
Speaker 1: about the state of the immigration system, that should be
Speaker 1: supported by government rather than going after people for their utterances.
Speaker 1: If they want to arrest someone who's broken the law,
Speaker 1: there they are right out in the street. If they're
Speaker 1: breaking things, arrest them for their crimes. But you can't
Speaker 1: arrest me for having a comment in observation about those crimes.
Speaker 3: Well, Brian, you through no fault of your own, because
Speaker 3: I share it. Have a very American centric view of speech.
Speaker 3: You know what I've learned over my decade at Breitbart
Speaker 3: from working with people in Europe is Europeans don't think
Speaker 3: like us. Europeans don't think you have the right to say, golly,
Speaker 3: these folks should not be murdering children with nice because
Speaker 3: they will throw you in jail for that. And I
Speaker 3: can tell you that some of my colleagues in Europe
Speaker 3: are privately making plans. What do I do if I'm
Speaker 3: arrested for publishing the truth on Breitbart dot Com? What,
Speaker 3: you know, how do I get my family out of
Speaker 3: the United Kingdom? You know, which is shocking to us
Speaker 3: to believe, because we consider these countries, you know, essentially
Speaker 3: equivalent to the US. You know, we look at English
Speaker 3: culture and think it you know, in many ways it's
Speaker 3: very similar to us. But they use some funny words
Speaker 3: for things, right, Like they call potato chips crisps, and
Speaker 3: they're so silly, you know. In fact, there's a basic
Speaker 3: difference in how we consider free speech and associated topics.
Speaker 3: So where I'm kind of taking conversations on this subject
Speaker 3: with people in America is you need to reconsider a
Speaker 3: European vacation. You know, the Brian Thomas's of the world,
Speaker 3: the column the Darns of the world, could get arrested
Speaker 3: if we go to Europe. You know, I don't think
Speaker 3: that's beyond the pale, because they really don't like the
Speaker 3: concept that you Brian Thomas can sit down at the
Speaker 3: microphone and speak truth that the government doesn't like.
Speaker 1: That is uh, you know, it's interesting.
Speaker 4: It's been for a long time.
Speaker 1: In France. I have a longtime friend. I went to
Speaker 1: church with him growing up, and he has been a
Speaker 1: French citizen for decades now. He married a French girl
Speaker 1: and he majored in France, so he's fluent in the language.
Speaker 1: But I was speaking out against our government over the
Speaker 1: dinner table once when he was in town, and he
Speaker 1: looked at me and he goes, wow, He goes, you know,
Speaker 1: you couldn't even say that kind of thing in France.
Speaker 3: What right?
Speaker 4: The first time I ever heard that, The first time
Speaker 4: I'd ever heard that. I'm like, it's like a core
Speaker 4: American principle is speaking out against the government and screaming
Speaker 4: your head off what these chuckleheads are doing to us.
Speaker 3: And there's another layer there, Brian, which is their media
Speaker 3: is even more captured by the establishment than ours. You know,
Speaker 3: I would joke that if you turned on CNN for
Speaker 3: a random French person, they would almost think it's scandalous
Speaker 3: and independent media, right, because when you look at like
Speaker 3: the AFP and Lamond and these other French media sources,
Speaker 3: English media versus, they're not going to go outside of
Speaker 3: what the government wants. Unless it's things like we hack
Speaker 3: the cell phones of these celebrities and look a look
Speaker 3: at the celebrity gossip there. They might have the free media,
Speaker 3: but when it's things like, you know, major world issues
Speaker 3: and major national issues in these nations, they're marching to
Speaker 3: the be, to the government, you know, without exception. And
Speaker 3: that's why you know, we have many bright part readers
Speaker 3: in Europe because we have a London team and a
Speaker 3: focus on European affairs. And it's even shocking in our
Speaker 3: internal messaging systems when we see messages from lawyers saying
Speaker 3: things like don't talk about this because it's illegal. That's
Speaker 3: not something we normally hear in America. It's kind of
Speaker 3: contrary to our mindset. But the more I think about it, Brian,
Speaker 3: you know, don't you think the left would love for
Speaker 3: that to be how it is here? You know what
Speaker 3: they love for example.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean look what they went through. I mean,
Speaker 1: just hot news off the press. Zuckerberg's letter to Jim
Speaker 1: Jordan acknowledging that he was pressured by the Biden Harrison
Speaker 1: administration to suppress various topics of conversation which ultimately turned
Speaker 1: out to be true things we were saying about COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen during the time, as well as the comments about
Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop, which, oh my god, with the
Speaker 1: benefit of hindsight, he says, we should have allowed that,
Speaker 1: and we promised we're not going to do that again
Speaker 1: until all the information's in and allow you to engage
Speaker 1: in the free discourse. And we all don't believe that
Speaker 1: as far as we could throw Mark Zuckerberg from a
Speaker 1: mile away, but you know that's the point being that's
Speaker 1: what our government tried to do through internal pressure. You
Speaker 1: pointed out that, you know, Mark Zuckerberg isn't afraid of
Speaker 1: getting locked up. Maybe that's because he's got friends in
Speaker 1: the administration who have promised him we will never come
Speaker 1: after you as long as you do our will.
Speaker 3: Well, Brian, it's you know, he's even deeper than friends
Speaker 3: in the administration, which he certainly has. You know, the
Speaker 3: the one of the very top executives of Facebook is
Speaker 3: the former Deputy Prime Minister of the UK. You know,
Speaker 3: he's got juice with the global deep state. He's not
Speaker 3: losing any sleep about any anything posted on his platforms
Speaker 3: that are getting other tech CEOs arrested.
Speaker 1: Well and Colin do you feel that that is part
Speaker 1: of the problem with this unregulated, unmitigated flow of illegal
Speaker 1: immigrants into our country. As you point out, we are
Speaker 1: one of the few, if not only, countries on the
Speaker 1: planet that has a First Amendment that is very well protected.
Speaker 1: We literally can say, I mean, with very little exception,
Speaker 1: almost anything we want. We believe in the free exchange
Speaker 1: of ideas, and we believe that the more we talk
Speaker 1: about something, the more elevated our conversation becomes, and the more,
Speaker 1: you know, the better our solutions come through conversation, the
Speaker 1: exchange of ideas. You have a bunch of people flowing
Speaker 1: in from the four corners of the globe that have
Speaker 1: no connection with that, and like my friend from France
Speaker 1: can't believe that we can even say things like that.
Speaker 1: That's their mindset and that's culturally transforming.
Speaker 3: Well, that's right. That's certainly what Europe's gone through, and
Speaker 3: that's what we're going through. And even in different ways.
Speaker 3: If you look at Canada, they flooded Canada with Indian
Speaker 3: immigrants who are not you know, they don't share the
Speaker 3: values of Canadians and they're not sort of becoming Canadians, right.
Speaker 3: I think what you've hit on is generation after generation,
Speaker 3: especially in this country, people do come from the four
Speaker 3: corners of the Earth and they learn English and their
Speaker 3: kids kind of come out as Americans, right, you know,
Speaker 3: first and second generation Americans from wherever they came from, Ukraine, Russia, Ireland,
Speaker 3: like my forefathers. That's how America's always worked. Now we're
Speaker 3: seeing folks come and it's not limited to one culture
Speaker 3: or one country. There's no incentive for that to happen
Speaker 3: other it's almost they're almost incentivized to keep their language
Speaker 3: and their culture and their values which are foreign on us.
Speaker 1: And of course they haven't become naturalized citizens or the
Speaker 1: appropriate immigration process where you are taught civics and the
Speaker 1: founding principles of our country. They don't even teach that
Speaker 1: to our own children and our own schools these days, Colin, No,
Speaker 1: they don't.
Speaker 3: They're they're learning their genders and their their gender identity flags,
Speaker 3: but not you know, the American flag and what it
Speaker 3: stands for. So you know, what I personally worry about
Speaker 3: is the result of what you've just described, the lack
Speaker 3: of integration, the lack of American values. To me, that
Speaker 3: weakens things like the first Amendment because you have a
Speaker 3: generation who multiple generations now who would rather you not
Speaker 3: have the right to free speech if it is inconvenient
Speaker 3: for them or their side. And you know, as you
Speaker 3: know it certainly is a lawyer, and as the talk
Speaker 3: show host, the first Amendment is exactly for pizza. That's
Speaker 3: not convenience, because no one needs to protect the speech
Speaker 3: that everyone agrees about, right, there's no rest to that speech.
Speaker 1: It shall be illegal for you to make an utterance
Speaker 1: that causes somebody else cognitive dissonance, Collin.
Speaker 3: And what and tech companies like you know, Facebook being
Speaker 3: one of the worst, have sort of taken that approach
Speaker 3: because you know, what Zuckerberg and friends do is when
Speaker 3: Breitbart publishes articles about illegal immigration that are inconvenient and
Speaker 3: sure facts they don't like, they use their algorithms to
Speaker 3: basically memory hold them, you know, to make it so
Speaker 3: very few people read that.
Speaker 1: I understand that all day long, Colin. That's why you
Speaker 1: have to post things in a certain way to remind
Speaker 1: people that there is Breitbart out there, Breitbart dot com.
Speaker 1: If you don't put a direct link to the Breitbart article,
Speaker 1: but you maybe capture a headline or refer people over
Speaker 1: it in an indirect way. Your content will be seen
Speaker 1: if you link something specifically, no one will see it.
Speaker 1: If I say Happy Friday, which I do every Friday
Speaker 1: on Facebook, Colin, I'll get hundreds of people saying happy
Speaker 1: Friday to you are making nice comments. If I were
Speaker 1: to link any article from Breitbart, I bet no one
Speaker 1: would see it. I've done this test on a number
Speaker 1: of different occasions and not a single chime, not a
Speaker 1: negative comment, not a positive comment, no thumbs up, just silence.
Speaker 1: And I'll even go back later Sai, didn't anybody see
Speaker 1: my post? And like what post exactly?
Speaker 3: And it's designing to make you feel a little bit crazy.
Speaker 3: It's a form of gaslighting. It is you know, it
Speaker 3: makes you say, gee, does no one care about this issue? No,
Speaker 3: they're just not seeing its algorithm why Internally we sometimes
Speaker 3: refer to Mark Zuckerberg as the editor of the Internet
Speaker 3: because he decides what you see, you catch off.
Speaker 1: I could laugh at it, but it's a sorry state
Speaker 1: of affairs. But it's truth and that's what I like
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