Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 1: Michelle Trachtenberg, just thirty nine years old, was found dead.
Speaker 1: They're saying now that her body may have rejected the
Speaker 1: liver transplant she received within the last year, causing complications.
Speaker 1: Her mother found her, of course, Michelle Trachtenberg. She was
Speaker 1: in Gossip Girl, Buffy the Vamfire Slayer euro Trip Gossip.
Speaker 1: I already mentioned that police sources have confirmed that its
Speaker 1: natural causes. The exact cause remains unclear. Police and paramedics
Speaker 1: responded to a call for a woman in cardiac arrest
Speaker 1: found her unresponsive dead on the scene. She was pronounced
Speaker 1: she had been known to struggle with alcohol and again
Speaker 1: had that liver transplant recently within the last year.
Speaker 2: Internationally, we know that Hama said it's going to prepare
Speaker 2: to release it the last four Israeli hostage bodies included
Speaker 2: in the initial phase of this ceasefire deal. In Israeli
Speaker 2: official confirmed that they were going to receive the bodies
Speaker 2: would be eleven o'clock local time. I believe so that
Speaker 2: would be I think it's one o'clock our time. Israel
Speaker 2: had previously refused to release the more than six hundred
Speaker 2: Palestinian prisoners and deteenies last weekend because they accused Tamas
Speaker 2: of breaching the ceasefire deal by those ridiculous public parading
Speaker 2: of the hostages in Gaza before they would turn home
Speaker 2: over to the Red Cross, and Egyptian officials who have
Speaker 2: been working on this ceasefire have apparently gotten promises from
Speaker 2: Hamas that they won't be doing that again.
Speaker 3: In DC, it's time for swamp watching a politician, which
Speaker 3: means I'm a cheat and a liar.
Speaker 4: And when I'm not kissing babies, I'm still in that lollipops.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got. The real problem is that our leaders
Speaker 3: are done.
Speaker 1: The other side never quits.
Speaker 4: I'm not going anywhere. So that is how you train the.
Speaker 3: I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by
Speaker 3: what has been. You know, Americans have always been guman act.
Speaker 3: They're not stupid.
Speaker 5: A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 3: Have the people voted for you were not swap watch,
Speaker 3: They're all countero.
Speaker 1: President Trump has previewed as plans for a new visa
Speaker 1: gold card, describing it as somewhat like a Green card,
Speaker 1: but at a higher level of sophistication.
Speaker 2: He was signing his latest round of executive orders yesterday,
Speaker 2: one of them related to terras on copper imports. Lutnick
Speaker 2: Howard Lutnick is the Commerce Secretary, and explained that this
Speaker 2: Trump gold Card, as he called it, would replace the
Speaker 2: EB five visa, which would also or does also provide
Speaker 2: a pathway to citizenship for a wealthy foreign investor, but
Speaker 2: has been an avenue for fraud a lot of places.
Speaker 2: Lutnick implied that the administration would be more discerning as
Speaker 2: to who would qualify for the gold card, and the
Speaker 2: plan is not just we don't want to just get
Speaker 2: a bunch of rich people in here.
Speaker 3: Obviously their money would be.
Speaker 2: Great, but it's the idea that they would be smart
Speaker 2: enough business owners that they would then turn around and
Speaker 2: create jobs in the United States. Is it as simple
Speaker 2: as saying it's a five hundred dollars price tag on this,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if that passes legal
Speaker 2: muster or if there would be rules against that sort
Speaker 2: of thing when it comes to immigration.
Speaker 1: But did you say five hundred or did I have
Speaker 1: an aneurysm. No.
Speaker 3: I may have said five hundred, but five million is the.
Speaker 1: Feeds a million dollars. It's for very high level people
Speaker 1: for their route to citizenship. We're going to make sure
Speaker 1: they're wonderful, world class global citizens what Nick said. Trump added,
Speaker 1: it will be people with money and people that create jobs.
Speaker 1: Asked whether a Russian oligarch might be eligible for a
Speaker 1: gold card, Trump seemed amused, Yeah, he replied possibly. He said, hey,
Speaker 1: I know some Russian oligarchs that are nice people, if possible,
Speaker 1: and then he said they're not as wealthy as they
Speaker 1: used to be, but I think they can afford five
Speaker 1: million dollars.
Speaker 2: Secretary Lutnik did say that they would have to go
Speaker 2: through a vetting, of course, to make sure that they
Speaker 2: are wonderful, world class global citizens, and Lutnik is using
Speaker 2: the exact same language that his boss is. It sounds
Speaker 2: like more than twenty civil service employees resigned from the
Speaker 2: Department of Government Efficiency, saying that they're refusing to use
Speaker 2: their technical expertise to dismantle critical public services is what
Speaker 2: they see.
Speaker 1: These are the tech workers who are not the doze
Speaker 1: rising young stars of Elon Musk's choosing. These are tech
Speaker 1: workers that have already been in the federal government and
Speaker 1: are raising their hands and saying, we are not using
Speaker 1: our skills in the tech world to dismantle what this
Speaker 1: country is built on.
Speaker 2: Essentially, Yeah, they resigned from the US Digital Service, which
Speaker 2: is an that was established during Obama's administration after the
Speaker 2: incredibly cocked up rollout of the healthcare dot gov web
Speaker 2: portal that they completely blew. And again, that's proof that
Speaker 2: the government is not good at some things, and this
Speaker 2: was one of those things that the government was not
Speaker 2: good at. There's an interesting aspect This story specifically kind
Speaker 2: of crystallizes something that I've been thinking about but couldn't
Speaker 2: quite put into words.
Speaker 3: Seth Moulten, Yes, that's Seth Moulton ran for president. Seth
Speaker 3: Moulten talk.
Speaker 1: To everyone remembers that it.
Speaker 2: Talks about the importance of having an actual plea. You
Speaker 2: can't just complain about Elon Musk and Doge. You got
Speaker 2: to have a plan.
Speaker 6: Actually, the last time there was a big push for
Speaker 6: government efficiency, it was under Clinton and Gore, and it
Speaker 6: was a widely praised effort. Saved hundreds of billions of dollars,
Speaker 6: but didn't create the chaos that Musk is creating today.
Speaker 6: My case is Democrats need another plan like that. Do
Speaker 6: what Clinton and Gore did, show that we want to
Speaker 6: reform government too. We're just going to be more responsible
Speaker 6: about going about it, and we can rather than just
Speaker 6: complain about Musk.
Speaker 2: Now, there's a thing about that he's going that's going
Speaker 2: on that I thought he brought to light. I couldn't
Speaker 2: crystallize it until he said that. This is similar to
Speaker 2: Republicans saying we've got to do away with Obamacare. It's
Speaker 2: an absolute mess, it's not doing anybody any favors, but
Speaker 2: then not having a plan to replace it with. And
Speaker 2: Democrats right now are saying Elon Musk is tearing apart government.
Speaker 2: He shouldn't be going after the waste, fraud, and abuse,
Speaker 2: he shouldn't be cutting these programs or these workers, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But then they don't have a program to do just
Speaker 2: those things. They don't have it. That's set up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like most people, they don't like the way
Speaker 1: things are, but then they don't want change, you know.
Speaker 1: It's there was a memo that was distributed today by
Speaker 1: Trump his administration that federal agencies must develop plans to
Speaker 1: eliminate employee positions. So now they're putting the onus on
Speaker 1: the federal agencies. Come up with your own hatchet plan.
Speaker 1: They say, it's going to be a sweeping realignment of
Speaker 1: American government. The memo expands Trump's effort to downsize the
Speaker 1: federal workforce. He's described it as an impediment to his agenda.
Speaker 1: Thousands of sorry probationary employees have already been fired, and
Speaker 1: now they're looking at people who have civil service protection
Speaker 1: and get ready for the lawsuits. We're cutting down the
Speaker 1: size of government, he says. We have to. We're bloated,
Speaker 1: we're sloppy, we have people that are not doing their jobs.
Speaker 1: So in this memo this morning, it says agencies are
Speaker 1: directed to submit by March thirteenth their plans for what
Speaker 1: is known as reduction in force, which would not only
Speaker 1: lay off employees, but eliminate the positions all together, which
Speaker 1: would be extensive changes in how government functions. Going to
Speaker 1: get rid of a lot of people, and then you're
Speaker 1: going to have to come up with new protocols in
Speaker 1: all those departments.
Speaker 2: The White House says that that large bruise that is
Speaker 2: on the back of President Trump's right hand is from
Speaker 2: him shaking so many hands.
Speaker 1: He shakes a lot of hands. He shakes hands all day,
Speaker 1: every day, is what they say.
Speaker 2: He has had visible bruising or redness on his right
Speaker 2: hand on at least two other occasions, in August and
Speaker 2: November of last year, which obviously would have been right
Speaker 2: in this middle of campaigning stuff. Bruises on his hand
Speaker 2: were also noted by various news outlets last year, and
Speaker 2: Time magazine quoted Trump in twenty in December of twenty four,
Speaker 2: saying it's from shaking hands with thousands of people.
Speaker 1: Daily mail, which is the bastion of journalism as we
Speaker 1: know it, ran to a doctor named doctor Stuart Fisher.
Speaker 1: Stuart Fisher says that while an aggressive handshake could be
Speaker 1: partly to blame, that his age may also provide a clue.
Speaker 1: We all know this. We've all had relatives that have
Speaker 1: bruises or age spots that look like bruises on their hands.
Speaker 1: I've got a couple of them, he says. The doctor
Speaker 1: that old age naturally weakens blood vessels, makes them more brittle,
Speaker 1: which makes bruising on any part of the body much
Speaker 1: more likely and severe. That osteo arthritis of course breaks
Speaker 1: down cartilage and bone and the joints. That could be
Speaker 1: another possibility. It can cause easy bruising or discoloration that
Speaker 1: affects joints in the hand. The doctor says he thinks
Speaker 1: it's probably all of those things together.
Speaker 2: If you look on social media, which is also a
Speaker 2: great idea, the suggestion is that this was an IV.
Speaker 3: That bruise.
Speaker 2: It put an IV on the top of the hand
Speaker 2: there and that left a bruise when they removed it.
Speaker 1: But rich people get dehydration ivs like every day. It's
Speaker 1: a thing. It keeps your energy up, you keep those
Speaker 1: B twelve shots in. It's a thing. So that also
Speaker 1: would not be out of the realm of possibility. And
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be like he needed an IV because he's
Speaker 1: near death or he's experiencing health problems. It's probably just
Speaker 1: because you get a little you get a little boost,
Speaker 1: you get a little hydration. Especially with all the diet
Speaker 1: cokese he drinks, probably doesn't drink.
Speaker 3: A lot of water.
Speaker 1: I won't be surprised if he got regular hydration ivs.
Speaker 3: Are you worried about him?
Speaker 1: No, Okay, I just said, I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: he just gets regular hydration IVS.
Speaker 3: I know, but that consistent dehydration could be an issue too.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's not like dehydration that can put you
Speaker 1: in the hospital. It's just you know, you've seen those places.
Speaker 1: They've popped up everywhere now, the hydration therapy. They're in
Speaker 1: like strip malls and stuff.
Speaker 2: The only time I think I've even recognized them was Vegas.
Speaker 3: They're all over the place.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, there is a proposal, and I want to
Speaker 2: throw this in there only because it's weird. State assembly
Speaker 2: Member Rick Chavez Burr introduced a bill last week to
Speaker 2: substantially narrow the legal justification for homicide in California. Homicide
Speaker 2: is just person on person death. Basically, the term for
Speaker 2: murder actually is illegal homicide, which would mean that there
Speaker 2: are legal homicides that are there. For example, if your
Speaker 2: life is threatened, you can defend yourself. But they talk
Speaker 2: about this bill. Homicide would no longer be justifiable when
Speaker 2: it's committed in defensive property or habitation. So somebody could
Speaker 2: break into your house, you can't shoot them unless they
Speaker 2: are killing you, or unless they're about to kill you.
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris said she was going to shoot you if
Speaker 1: you broke into her home.
Speaker 2: Well, this is one of those things that it doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense to me because I don't know who the
Speaker 2: victim is in this case or who assembly Member Rick
Speaker 2: Chavez ber is trying to protect.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: Are you trying to protect the people who just happen
Speaker 2: to break into a house to steal stuff, that's who
Speaker 2: you're trying to protect.
Speaker 3: Or you're trying to protect.
Speaker 2: The law abiding homeowner who wants to protect his fam
Speaker 2: And how do I know when you break into my
Speaker 2: house in the middle of the night what your intentions are?
Speaker 2: And do I have to wait until you try to
Speaker 2: kill me before I defend myself.
Speaker 1: That's why you need to get a burn a gun.
Speaker 1: You can shoot them, name them and not kill them,
Speaker 1: but they won't be breaking into your house again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gun safety advocates said this bill is a way
Speaker 2: to prevent armed extremism and vigilante violence. You're not walking
Speaker 2: down the street and shooting people. This is if you
Speaker 2: are threatened. If someone threatens to you, sorry, it is
Speaker 2: a threat to you. It's criminalizing home defense. It's protecting
Speaker 2: the bad guys again. And uh, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: and I don't like it.
Speaker 4: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: That's what you were going to say, Huh.
Speaker 3: And I don't like it.
Speaker 4: I do like that.
Speaker 1: I wonder if if you named a kid a certain name,
Speaker 1: if he or she would be more apt to to
Speaker 1: shoot people.
Speaker 2: What if you named your kids Spider something like that,
Speaker 2: or Tommy two thumbs.
Speaker 1: Or something Tommy two thumbs.
Speaker 3: Just thinking of mafia hit.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna give my baby some time to
Speaker 1: develop its nickname in the mafia world. You're gonna think, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Justin worship Is with us, host of the Dad podcast.
Speaker 3: We like talking parenting things.
Speaker 2: The idea of naming your kid is obviously probably step
Speaker 2: two or three of being a parent, right in the responsibility.
Speaker 4: I like that sequence. I'm afraid to ask what one
Speaker 4: number one is?
Speaker 3: You gotta make it?
Speaker 4: There you go, thanks Gary, or buy it?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how people get their kids these. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true, but step two or.
Speaker 3: Three is gonna be okay, So what are we gonna
Speaker 3: call this thing?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: And there's a lot you're setting up your kid for
Speaker 1: financial failure if if you don't pick these top five names.
Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, if you if you named your kid uh Anna, Maria, Laura, Helen.
Speaker 4: Or Sarah, you did good for them.
Speaker 1: They're gonna do a good female.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna do. They're gonna be great financially. For
Speaker 5: the guys, it's Andrew, Sam Alex, Christopher and Darren.
Speaker 4: Good for you.
Speaker 1: But my husband, I mean, I'm sorry, my brother. That's
Speaker 1: a weird slip. My brother's name is Andrew, right at
Speaker 1: the top of the list.
Speaker 4: Zoom number one. Well, guess what, borrow some money from bro.
Speaker 3: He's loaded.
Speaker 4: And then if you're doing poorly. Karen's taken a lot
Speaker 4: of hits in these last few years.
Speaker 5: She topped the list of struggling financially, probably because she's
Speaker 5: calling the cops on people that now deserve to be
Speaker 5: She's getting a lot of lawsuits, so she's got she's
Speaker 5: got a lot of retain.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 5: Uh, Claire, Lisa, Jennifer and Rachel. And then for guys
Speaker 5: Allie and Rob, Dan, Chris and Dominic. Which is interesting
Speaker 5: because if you shorten it from Christopher, not so good financially,
Speaker 5: but if you got the full toafer going on, you were,
Speaker 5: you're thriving as a guy.
Speaker 1: That's just the most ridiculous circle. I've ever read that
Speaker 1: in my life. It's insane and ps. Claire is a strong,
Speaker 1: firm name. I don't think. I don't think of Claire
Speaker 1: as a financial failure. I don't see Claire as somebody
Speaker 1: who's in a gutter in financial ruin. But that's how
Speaker 1: Claire doesn't live on skid row.
Speaker 4: That's how strong Claire is.
Speaker 5: She can make you believe she's thriving when in actuality,
Speaker 5: deep down, she's struggling.
Speaker 4: She needs a hug.
Speaker 1: No, she's not. Claire has a matching sweater set and
Speaker 1: a string of pearls on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but she's financed. They're all on credit card debt. Shannon, Oh,
Speaker 5: maybe that's what I'm saying. I'm telling you Claire is
Speaker 5: not okay. If you have a friend named Claire, you
Speaker 5: need to call her and make sure she's okay and
Speaker 5: buy her lunch.
Speaker 1: She's not going to split yes about Claire.
Speaker 2: But they don't even there's no there's no connection, I
Speaker 2: mean right, I mean they can't establish what the connection
Speaker 2: would be between these names and films.
Speaker 5: They just basically went through and looked at social security
Speaker 5: data and figured out who was thriving. Financially and what
Speaker 5: the most common names were about for those people that
Speaker 5: were thriving financially, and then technically you should all be fired.
Speaker 1: Those people should be elon musk. If your job is
Speaker 1: to go through Social Security data and find out what
Speaker 1: the first name is successful.
Speaker 5: This is a This is a college funded study, So
Speaker 5: I don't think this is actually from the federal government.
Speaker 4: What was it. I think it was Brigham Yell.
Speaker 1: Go back to the Mormons.
Speaker 3: College closed, but they did.
Speaker 4: It's funny they did kind of what I The reason.
Speaker 5: Why I brought this to you guys is for just
Speaker 5: the funny of just laughing that your name has anything
Speaker 5: to do with your financial success. But I also think
Speaker 5: it's a reflection of what I feel that these anks
Speaker 5: written parents go through. That we've now added icing onto
Speaker 5: a cake, which is this is probably more of a
Speaker 5: multiple flower icing flower that's being added on top of
Speaker 5: the cake of like things you should worry about. You
Speaker 5: failed your kid because you didn't name them Anna, right,
Speaker 5: You would have just named them Anna.
Speaker 2: Listen, there's pressure in the process of naming the kid already.
Speaker 3: I think that's your point.
Speaker 2: And in terms of what we were saying, what my
Speaker 2: wife and I were saying when we were doing this
Speaker 2: exercise of what would you even begin? Would you want
Speaker 2: a family name? Would you want to name it after
Speaker 2: your grandfather? Like? What, how do you even begin? There's
Speaker 2: plenty of pressure. You got it, and you should cut
Speaker 2: down on the rules. The rules are basically for me,
Speaker 2: the rules were, I'm not going to name my son
Speaker 2: anything close to one of your ex boyfriends.
Speaker 3: That was really the only thing I didn't.
Speaker 1: That is so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: That is not ridiculous because she's had so many boyfriends
Speaker 2: that the list was pretty small.
Speaker 4: See, this is why I brought this. I didn't know.
Speaker 4: This was an undintended consequence. Look at how much fun
Speaker 4: we're having.
Speaker 1: That's such an early twenties thing, like I'm not what
Speaker 1: are your ex boyfriends name?
Speaker 5: The fun game I named with I played with my
Speaker 5: wife is that my wife had been talking about like
Speaker 5: all the girl names, Kiara, Noel, these were all names
Speaker 5: that she was thrown around, and Kiara was my favorite.
Speaker 5: And so when we bought our house, we adopted this
Speaker 5: kind of feral kitten that had lived in the park
Speaker 5: across the street and walk up to us, and so
Speaker 5: she was.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, let's keep the kitten. I was like, you
Speaker 4: know what your neighbor is Kiara. That's one of the
Speaker 4: names you like.
Speaker 5: And my wife is so caught up in the emotional
Speaker 5: She's like, that's a great idea, and I'm like, great.
Speaker 4: We never have a daughter named Kiara now.
Speaker 2: And then an electric fence was built around the name Kiara.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: It is so manipulative.
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I'm very I'm very very rarely
Speaker 4: am I good at it?
Speaker 1: That like, especially my wife peace of who you are?
Speaker 5: I know, but it felt so strong. Oh my god,
Speaker 5: wait a minute, hold on. I have never felt more
Speaker 5: alive than that day.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's an immature thing to say, is
Speaker 2: you can't name my son after ex boyfriend.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's immature. I'm saying that, like in
Speaker 1: my early twenties, I was more obsessed with like like
Speaker 1: my boyfriend or now husband or whatever it was with
Speaker 1: their exes.
Speaker 5: I was more Yeah, she's saying it was a sign
Speaker 5: of the time of your age. You're right, because because
Speaker 5: if I look, yes, because right now, if I look
Speaker 5: three years previous, I'm the only person that my wife
Speaker 5: has had sex with.
Speaker 4: I'm not even.
Speaker 1: Thinking about it in your forties or whatever, right, and
Speaker 1: when I'm twenty one, yes, I may not be the
Speaker 1: only person on that list three years. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 3: I'm sorky, all right, good, like.
Speaker 5: You know what's funny about me? As soon as you
Speaker 5: said it, I agreed. I was just like I would
Speaker 5: have never thought of that. I'm so glad my maaming
Speaker 5: I dotched that bullet.
Speaker 2: And the thing is her most I think the boyfriend
Speaker 2: that she had before me was also named Andy, and
Speaker 2: if that had happened, and like, we named our kid
Speaker 2: and I know five million andies now and they all
Speaker 2: haunt me because they.
Speaker 3: Remind me of my my wife's sex boyfriend.
Speaker 5: I was afraid one of them was going to be
Speaker 5: named Alvin, and so she found a loophole with Calvin.
Speaker 4: Or Alan or something.
Speaker 1: The best part of that is like, and I think
Speaker 1: kind of we have a magnetic quality about us. Gary,
Speaker 1: Like one of your best friend's name is Andy now, right,
Speaker 1: And I think also there's this weird thing that that
Speaker 1: just happens. I call you Andy sometimes. My brother's name
Speaker 1: is Andy.
Speaker 3: And it hurts every time.
Speaker 1: And I do that sometimes. I haven't done it in
Speaker 1: a long time, But there's something to be said. When
Speaker 1: you really don't want something, sometimes the universe.
Speaker 4: Does and it hurts because you're not as financially successful as.
Speaker 2: The other thing is that my in laws for the
Speaker 2: first year that my wife and I were dating, they
Speaker 2: called me and no way, absolutely, no, yeah, and they
Speaker 2: wouldn't even catch on. Like I remember distinctly, we were
Speaker 2: sitting in the backseat of a car. We're going with
Speaker 2: them to I had to be dinner somewhere, and we
Speaker 2: were visiting them while they were in Seattle and we
Speaker 2: were living in Sacramento, and her mom, my now mother
Speaker 2: in law, kind of spun around and was like, so, Andy,
Speaker 2: what was it like at work this week? And I
Speaker 2: mean direct eye contact and everything, and no, I was like,
Speaker 2: nobody was talking to me.
Speaker 5: Nobody on this planet is better, by the way than
Speaker 5: your Shannon. And like the comedic response take to that
Speaker 5: of just like I just imagined going stiff and just
Speaker 5: lowering her head at a.
Speaker 4: Forty five and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife said, My wife corrected her right away,
Speaker 2: She's like, his name is Gary, And to her credit,
Speaker 2: my mother in law now mother in law, was mortified.
Speaker 2: But and she said it like at dinner time, I'm
Speaker 2: really sorry for calling you that I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 2: and my wife then again, she pops up, she's like,
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 3: Do it all the time. No, we don't, and yes
Speaker 3: you do.
Speaker 1: How long were they together?
Speaker 3: Gosh, that's a great question. I don't know. Months.
Speaker 1: It's it's so weird. And I said, how long were
Speaker 1: Shannon and Andy together? Because my whole life it's been
Speaker 1: Shannon and Andy, Shannon and Andy.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll try living my life where I go
Speaker 2: home and they're like, who who? When I went to
Speaker 2: get notarized yesterday's signature and they're like, who's who's signing today?
Speaker 3: And I said, Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4: Don't forget to download the podcast.
Speaker 1: They together.
Speaker 2: I think it was a year plus. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know. He just got a list. He
Speaker 2: didn't get time, pranks.
Speaker 1: He just needed seems like it's enough time for the
Speaker 1: mother or the father to continually call the new one
Speaker 1: the old one.
Speaker 4: And nice, and that's what.
Speaker 1: Similar.
Speaker 2: I don't think we have time to go into this
Speaker 2: blonde hair. He's also addicted to porn. But that's sorry.
Speaker 2: I couldn't just let that. Yeah, you had to take
Speaker 2: a shot at him. You won, Garrett, It's okay. You wondorn.
Speaker 2: The study that reveals that parents do have a favorite child,
Speaker 2: and to break it down, by U and Western University
Speaker 2: looked at all of these different things. Kids who are
Speaker 2: favored tend to have better mental health, to do better
Speaker 2: in school, to have better family relationships.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if.
Speaker 2: That's the cause or the effect of being a favorite
Speaker 2: or but they also said that the older child and
Speaker 2: often girls, yes, tend to be the favorite child.
Speaker 4: Daughters predominantly are favorite.
Speaker 5: And this is what I love is bringing this in
Speaker 5: is that both of you guys have siblings that, like,
Speaker 5: you have a sister, Shannon has a brother.
Speaker 4: Do you think that your sister got favorite of treatment.
Speaker 2: I think they at times did get the favorite treatment, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but for different reasons. I mean, one of them was
Speaker 2: very school minded and driven and was the first to
Speaker 2: graduate college because she was older. But but and then
Speaker 2: the other one was very sporty, like she was super.
Speaker 3: Involved and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I was like, hey, there's there's that
Speaker 2: guy keeps showing.
Speaker 3: Up at our house every day.
Speaker 4: That was the opinion on you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Shannon, do you think that you got I think,
Speaker 5: like Gary, you're a rule follower, like before you got here.
Speaker 1: Justin we were talking about it and Gary said that
Speaker 1: his parents routinely told him that he was the favorite.
Speaker 1: And and I think that you are really good with
Speaker 1: following rules and not getting like you get into the
Speaker 1: correct amount of trouble without being a like a problem
Speaker 1: or a problem or a worry. Yeah, whereas your sisters
Speaker 1: there was two of them. Girls are kind of tricky
Speaker 1: boys a lot of the time. I think probably get
Speaker 1: the bad rap because they're little boys, and they're all
Speaker 1: over the place, and they're dirty, and they're not rule followers,
Speaker 1: and they're you know, they're rambunctious, and that's just what
Speaker 1: little boys are. And I think that that's probably it.
Speaker 1: Girls are probably more self contained for the most part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because what I've heard is that like daughters feel
Speaker 5: like they aren't that the brother always has more leeway,
Speaker 5: particularly like going out to parties and dating, because for
Speaker 5: whatever reason, parents worry less about their sons, but brothers
Speaker 5: feel like the girls get away with more because they
Speaker 5: get treated with a little bit more mittens and like
Speaker 5: and tenderly than the boy would.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: That's like, and I think the other thing that this
Speaker 5: article kind of talks about, which I kind of agree with,
Speaker 5: is that this is really about a kid's perception. This
Speaker 5: opened my eyes because I think if you were to
Speaker 5: ask me until recently, I would probably if I had to,
Speaker 5: like gun to my head, I had to pick a
Speaker 5: favorite kid, it would be my older son until recently.
Speaker 5: Now my younger son is probably more my favorite because
Speaker 5: he's employed. I've decided that having a child.
Speaker 3: In two weeks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've decided that having a child that has a
Speaker 5: job is my new favorite thing about being a father.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: That's the thing we were talking about, too, is how
Speaker 1: it changes, like your favorite kid changes.
Speaker 4: My dad said.
Speaker 5: The way he I asked him, and I know I've
Speaker 5: said this multiple times here is that I said, do
Speaker 5: you really have a favorite? And he was like, you
Speaker 5: don't have a favorite, You just always have. It rotates
Speaker 5: who you're worried about, Like there's always he said, there's
Speaker 5: always one of you that your mom and I are
Speaker 5: worried about. And then when that one starts to like rally,
Speaker 5: he goes, you don't stop worrying because now you're like
Speaker 5: looking at the other two of going Okay, which what's
Speaker 5: going to happen to you two now because all three
Speaker 5: of you are never thriving at the same time.
Speaker 2: Like, it just doesn't work out that way. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: we've used the quote before. I heard it said by
Speaker 2: Heraldo Rivera, but I don't know if he was the
Speaker 2: one who originated it, which is your never as you're
Speaker 2: only as happy as your unhappiest child, and that, I
Speaker 2: mean that kind of plays into it. There you go
Speaker 2: back and forth, they go through different light and depending
Speaker 2: on how old they are too, if there's a wide
Speaker 2: age separation, they're going to go through different life stages
Speaker 2: at very different times and give you sort of the
Speaker 2: roller coaster effect of got to pay attention to this
Speaker 2: one as she's a preteen, but that guy's going to
Speaker 2: be an you know, late adolescent.
Speaker 3: What's happening with their and vice versa.
Speaker 5: Because like like it says, the more agreeable child is
Speaker 5: also usually the more favorite, which is I think what
Speaker 5: Shannon's saying about you. I would also say that about
Speaker 5: my older son. It's just always been easier for me
Speaker 5: to talk to my older son. He's like me, he
Speaker 5: likes to talk things out. My younger son is like
Speaker 5: my wife. He holds it in if he's upset and
Speaker 5: you have to pull it out of him. But I
Speaker 5: would also argue that if you're talking about favoritism my
Speaker 5: older son, I think thinks that we favor the younger
Speaker 5: one because I have to try, I have to put
Speaker 5: in an effort to get things out of my younger son,
Speaker 5: whereas I don't have to do anything with my older
Speaker 5: son to feel like I have, like that he knows
Speaker 5: that there's a connection there. I guess I don't know,
Speaker 5: but it's all perception. Nothing is real, because how do
Speaker 5: you sit down and have a sincere conversation about who
Speaker 5: do you think mom and dad love more?
Speaker 2: Right? And when I talked about it last week, there
Speaker 2: were people who were upset that I would even entertain
Speaker 2: the thought of telling one of my children that they
Speaker 2: were my favorite, Like, what good is that? You're just
Speaker 2: going to sew division between the two of them, which
Speaker 2: I've never I want to tell these people shut up.
Speaker 3: Well, I would never.
Speaker 2: Also, I don't think I would ever seriously say to them, Hey,
Speaker 2: it's like, sit them both down and go. You know
Speaker 2: it's been bugging me for a long time. You I
Speaker 2: hate you, But she I like her? She for you're
Speaker 2: a moron, but he's really got his stuff together right now, and.
Speaker 5: Listen, I'll be the first to admit that I'm not
Speaker 5: perfect or do we all this great? But I'll tell
Speaker 5: you like, we have videos of my wife telling me
Speaker 5: she was pregnant with each of our sons, and with
Speaker 5: the second one, it was not a happy moment. It
Speaker 5: was definitely like we were struggling financially. And after the video,
Speaker 5: she goes, should I delete this, like basically erasing the evidence?
Speaker 4: And I said no, I said, because yes, this is.
Speaker 5: Kind of like a oh crap moment, But in reality,
Speaker 5: I go, if this kid looks at this video at
Speaker 5: twenty two years of age and doesn't laugh at it
Speaker 5: because he has spent the last twenty two years of
Speaker 5: his life being loved and growing in this family and
Speaker 5: being supported, then yeah, we were hosted to begin with.
Speaker 5: And that video didn't change any of it. Like that
Speaker 5: doesn't make any difference, I said, so I think it.
Speaker 4: Is what it is.
Speaker 5: And both of my sons have listened to both all
Speaker 5: of my comedy albums, which is just me jokingly like
Speaker 5: making fun of being them and talking about how bad
Speaker 5: being a dad is, and they laugh like, I don't
Speaker 5: think it really matters. It matters when it's like when
Speaker 5: I guess it's real, Like I think if you genuinely
Speaker 5: told your kids, like.
Speaker 4: Oh, you're my favorite, I don't think it's really that sincere.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean exactly.
Speaker 1: That's really sweet that your kids have listened to your albums.
Speaker 4: Oh it scared me. My dad played them when he
Speaker 4: brought him home.
Speaker 5: He played all three of them when they were like
Speaker 5: four and seven, and I'm like, Dad, did you.
Speaker 4: Give any context?
Speaker 5: He's like, no, I just thought theyd get a kick
Speaker 5: out of hearing their dad do what he does, and
Speaker 5: they still to this day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they like it.
Speaker 5: They think it's funny, like which I agree, Shannon, it does.
Speaker 5: It warms my heart.
Speaker 3: But your point also is they probably don't take it seriously.
Speaker 4: They don't. They know much. I love them.
Speaker 5: I cry at everything they do, and I hug them
Speaker 5: all the time. Again, like this idea that we worry
Speaker 5: that the kids don't feel like you love them, I
Speaker 5: start crying right now.
Speaker 4: I already am.
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