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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to men, sex and tantra.

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<v Speaker 2>Discover where your parents, porn and religion never taught you

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<v Speaker 2>about being a man and having extraordinary sex. Get ready

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<v Speaker 2>to have your mind blown and your world rocked. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Sparren is hanging in there. Are You's still here with me?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like even clapping his hands. It's like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you just reflected back that this is kind of fun

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<v Speaker 2>because you're being able to look at where you've come

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<v Speaker 2>from and where you are in this process, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of gold down this. So I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>showing up and doing this. And so let's jump back

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<v Speaker 2>and then we're gonna jump forward. So back in the

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm like you shall shouldn't do this relationship thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And one thing we've learned with Tanya is tinya is

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<v Speaker 2>typically right about things.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a little bit of experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess whatever, Yeah, yeah, whatever, Tina, fuck that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So you went ahead with this relationship anyway, the one

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<v Speaker 2>that you know you learned how to say no to

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<v Speaker 2>me but not no to ye and tell me what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you mentioned it like three months in about that

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<v Speaker 3>she did You didn't use this verbiage right in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I got three months in or so, she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>this woman has a life raft, and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but I need a life raft right now. So we

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<v Speaker 3>kind of negotiated that aspect and U because I was

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<v Speaker 3>going through so much trauma with the kids, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was going just getting used to my new new life,

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<v Speaker 3>my new normal, And then I knew it wasn't going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a permanent thing for a variety of different reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>How the woman showed up in the world, and how

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<v Speaker 3>I was showing up around the woman. Like I was

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<v Speaker 3>talking earlier about, the best version of myself wasn't being

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<v Speaker 3>with her, and so I was not showing up really

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<v Speaker 3>well when I was around her. And I don't blame

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<v Speaker 3>her for that. I blame myself for that. And so

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<v Speaker 3>it it ultimately ended three and a half years later.

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<v Speaker 1>It ended. What's a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like nuclear, It didn't go blow up, but

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<v Speaker 3>it just ied at some point I deserve better, a

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<v Speaker 3>better life, a better partner, and this doesn't work for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said earlier, if it doesn't work for me,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't work. The relationship doesn't work. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>had to end it because I was like, I'm becoming

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<v Speaker 3>a worse version of myself. And I wouldn't say I

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<v Speaker 3>was going back to where I was, but I was

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<v Speaker 3>just creating new new trauma kind of loops and new

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<v Speaker 3>stupid things that I knew were bad. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not keep I'm not going to go down this road.

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<v Speaker 3>It worked way too or it on all kinds of

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<v Speaker 3>different things over my years, and so I ended it.

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<v Speaker 3>And now yeah, I'm solo and for like six months

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<v Speaker 3>or so, and it's it's been different. It's it's like

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<v Speaker 3>I love it being quiet, which is that was so

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<v Speaker 3>fearful when it first started out, being in a quiet space,

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<v Speaker 3>being with my own thoughts on my own head, and

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<v Speaker 3>and like right now, I down music on and I

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<v Speaker 3>have nothing in the backgrounds. There's no even not a

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<v Speaker 3>minor distraction. And it's being quiet and living a new

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<v Speaker 3>life in my own new skin that I like and

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<v Speaker 3>improving every day. It feels like I'm not repairing things anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm growing now, which is great. Like that for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>and so not having to deal with all these traumas

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<v Speaker 3>I've kind of it's like, you know, you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>backpack full all your traumas around, and if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>let them go, you're going to bring them to the

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<v Speaker 3>next relationship, You're going to bring in the next business situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's nice to kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of, I think, have the backpack at least a lot lighter,

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<v Speaker 3>and now I could start feeling with stuff I love.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's way different from me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that. I like that you said that

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, a lot of the times when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>working with people, of course they come to me because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a problem, a challenge, right, and so they come

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<v Speaker 2>to me with the challenge, and most stay after the

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<v Speaker 2>challenge because then, like you said, now it's like the

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<v Speaker 2>personal growth work. It's like the challenge is over. How

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<v Speaker 2>do I make sure I don't ever do that again? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And that was me with you. It's like, look, you

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<v Speaker 2>still you haven't cleared this. It's just because you left

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean you're in a position to be in a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship because you're going to fall back into the same

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<v Speaker 2>pattern for sure, and that's normal. That's what we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we do because it takes time to rebuild

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<v Speaker 2>the pattern, and we do it best on our own.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would almost tell every single person when you

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<v Speaker 2>get out of a relationship, it's best to spend time

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<v Speaker 2>on your own so you can without the noise. And

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking literally and figuratively. We're talking about like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>without somebody else's influence and dynamic, you can get to

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<v Speaker 2>where you need to get faster, because once you layer

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<v Speaker 2>a dynamic in there, you're walking into the same patterns.

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<v Speaker 2>Chances are the person picked you because you were running

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<v Speaker 2>those patterns and that's what they were attracted to. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the interesting thing. People. We're attracted to people that either

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<v Speaker 2>are opposite of our trauma bonds or the same as

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<v Speaker 2>our trauma bonds. And a lot of people trauma bond together,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when they get divorced, and the next person they

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<v Speaker 2>talk to their like you know, whether that's rebound or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But so even though yes, you did that, I supported

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<v Speaker 2>you through that new relationship. At times, I always know

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<v Speaker 2>when something's up it's because you like disappear, you won't talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About I think I go quite un meditating a lot

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<v Speaker 1>by myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes so all a sudden, I'm like, huh,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen a fair and in a while what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on, you know, but revisiting like how you how

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<v Speaker 2>how what was being going on with the treatment, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how things were changing, the patterns you were stepping back into,

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<v Speaker 2>but you were also challenging those you were doing new things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>The one great thing is you know we were in

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<v Speaker 2>we were still in touch, we were still coaching, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'd say, this is what's going on. Yeah, I'd say,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have this conversation. So you started having to say

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<v Speaker 2>no and having difficult and like need conversation. Tell me

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<v Speaker 2>about that, like actually exploring what your needs were for

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<v Speaker 2>the point you didn't even know what needs you had before.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I needed to survive in the last relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>the or my marriage, but this relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're very accurate because.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, I told myself and also talking to you, is

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<v Speaker 3>that if I'm going to go into another relationship, it

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<v Speaker 3>cannot be like the last relationship. So the needs, wants,

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<v Speaker 3>the desires, anything that that angered me and or emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could put it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to address and so I did it

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<v Speaker 3>with the last girlfriend on multiple occasions. And then at

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<v Speaker 3>some point when you don't see your partner changing and

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<v Speaker 3>you need them to change, or you need them to

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<v Speaker 3>address certain issues in your relationship. You have to make

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<v Speaker 3>a decision is more important for my sanity to stay

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<v Speaker 3>in this relationship and just start to eat shit again

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<v Speaker 3>or step out of it. And so working with you

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<v Speaker 3>in that regards to helped me understand that I have

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<v Speaker 3>to value myself at a higher level if I want

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<v Speaker 3>to be a different version of myself. So that was

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<v Speaker 3>that was going from the survive perspective to thrive. And

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<v Speaker 3>so that's when I started because I knew in that

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<v Speaker 3>relationship she's a lovely person and still lovely, but I

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<v Speaker 3>knew that ultimately, unless she did her trauma kind of work,

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<v Speaker 3>this is never going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And she wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, Okay, we have stuff that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>working on my own. You're not doing anything on your side.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this is ultimately going to come to a

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<v Speaker 3>chasm or fork in the road where I get to

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<v Speaker 3>I'm probably gonna have to step out of it because

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<v Speaker 3>you're not doing your work. And so I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>get to a point where I could thrive in life

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<v Speaker 3>instead of just survived. And so we kind of put

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<v Speaker 3>a pattern a pattern timelines together and frameworks some stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had that tough conversation multiple times, but it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't working.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just wasn't working.

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<v Speaker 3>If your partner is not working on themselves, when either

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<v Speaker 3>you're having a conflict with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't get her to move, it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to work. It's just not going to work.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that I wanted to I wanted to thrive

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<v Speaker 3>in the next you know, thirty forty whatever years I

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, and I think the big thing was like

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<v Speaker 2>in the situation right now, you wouldn't actually pick her today,

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<v Speaker 2>So this would not be somebody that you would pick today.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's that's part of it is when we're

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<v Speaker 2>going through big growth and challenges and challenges, the chances are,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if we're with somebody, we're going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to make them change or that work. Women do this

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<v Speaker 2>all the time too. Like they get with a guy

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<v Speaker 2>and like he thought everything was cool, you know, sitting

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<v Speaker 2>drinking bud and his wife, beaters shirt, scratching his balls

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<v Speaker 2>watching football. We're like thinking, that's like what's going to

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<v Speaker 2>stay that way? Now all of a sudden, she's getting

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<v Speaker 2>rid of the chair and the football and the way

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<v Speaker 2>because women want the man to grow. And so every

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<v Speaker 2>guy who's ever listened to my show knows I adore men,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hats off to fucking men who want to

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<v Speaker 2>grow and do the challenging work. It's not as easy

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<v Speaker 2>for men as it is for women. Women are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of designed and built to grow. Yeah, it's men are

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<v Speaker 2>more emotionally sensitive. They are not as emotionally resilient. They

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<v Speaker 2>tick the hits in their childhood and teenagehood way harder,

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<v Speaker 2>carry them way longer than a woman ever will. And

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<v Speaker 2>from the first disappointment of their mother not smiling at

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<v Speaker 2>them to their first rejection in school when they have

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<v Speaker 2>a crush on somebody, they wear that for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And so one of the things that I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>important to know that as a man, if you are

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<v Speaker 2>embark if you are embarking on self growth, if you're embarking,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you're wanting to let go of

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<v Speaker 2>the trauma and all the things that you were raised with.

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<v Speaker 2>Mass respect, And I tell women all the time, if

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<v Speaker 2>you do, know, you got to respect the shit out

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<v Speaker 2>of a man who is willing to start changing things

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<v Speaker 2>because you're not hired wired to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know there's a difference between male and female

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<v Speaker 1>and that interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, women are just we're built for potential, raising

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<v Speaker 2>potential babies. We're raising kids, seeing potential, raising that potential

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<v Speaker 2>for loving the messy stuff when it happens, because and

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<v Speaker 2>more emotionally resilient. The way our hormemonnes are set up

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Men are made to stay the course once

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<v Speaker 2>they get programmed, they're supposed to stay the course. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's so that they could leave and go hunting, gathering,

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<v Speaker 2>leave people they loved all this stuff. The ability to

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<v Speaker 2>compartmentalize and disconnect used to be helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could see totally.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see that programming the wild kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>Tribe or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know, in the tribe, it used to be that,

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<v Speaker 2>was an Amazonian you know, warrior women, warrior tribe, in

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<v Speaker 2>which case it might be different. But you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>the ability to leave what you love and leave what

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<v Speaker 1>Programming, biochemical reactions.

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<v Speaker 2>In your brain exactly, exactly. So you know, men that

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this show are trying to learn stuff, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's to have better sex, and they One of the

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<v Speaker 2>things you realized because we did work on sex stuff too,

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<v Speaker 2>is that better sex isn't necessarily about techniques.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure, presence soniques you did teach me that

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, no it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you show up more for yourself. How do you

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<v Speaker 3>If you're grounded in your own skin and you're comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>where your in life and where you're going, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>actually be become that traumatic either if you have to

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<v Speaker 3>because you know who you are, it's huge and I

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<v Speaker 3>think women feel that when you're in a bedroom with

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<v Speaker 1>Or even like going to the bar ever, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm relatively good looking guy, but I get picked

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<v Speaker 3>up on by women and stuff. It's and it's still,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't say uncomfortable. It's something that's new for me

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<v Speaker 3>skin and I walk in and I show that presence,

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<v Speaker 3>and you show up differently, and I think you could

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<v Speaker 3>take it from the boardroom to the bar, to walk

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, so the ability to handle your nervous

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<v Speaker 2>system because you've learned emotional regulation, you've learned how to

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<v Speaker 2>were chronically under and being comfortable like that and also like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you were new. I love the fact that it's like

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<v Speaker 2>women are looking at me, you know, because that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>over here, you know, and you know, I like to

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<v Speaker 2>get I'm always honest with my male clients when they

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<v Speaker 2>start dating and stuff, you know, I'll give them their assessment,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because if somebody, if a guy says to me, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>know that anybody's going to look at me if a man,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm working with a man who is considered not

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<v Speaker 2>attractive by most standards, and there's a thing, then I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not leading with that, right, But they they will still,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, the presence trumps it. All women will

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<v Speaker 2>pick men who are you make them laugh, who are safe,

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<v Speaker 2>feel safe right, and touch their heart over just a

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<v Speaker 2>hot guy.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody wants to look at hot Everybody's like, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>the reality of life, is we all like hot men.

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<v Speaker 2>Women are just as visual as men are. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>call it what it is, hot as hot and nothing

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with that. And if that's the only thing you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at, of course you're leaving a lot on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>In a way. You also have said that you like

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be able to talk to somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>M I mean like yeah, yeah, for sure, from from

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<v Speaker 3>my intelligence or place chip standpoint or anything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like I think You're right, an attractive woman opens

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<v Speaker 3>the door. Literally, I'm like, or figured that we could

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<v Speaker 3>say that opens the door to a conversation. But if

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<v Speaker 3>I get in the room and the conversation is dead,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gone there, yeah, like a barn door, We're brain dead.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, I can't know. That's why I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't tried to and I won't most likely try to.

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<v Speaker 3>But a date younger women like in their twenties, and

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<v Speaker 3>friends are like, you should go to this bar and

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<v Speaker 3>do this, And I was like, what are we going

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to a twenty five year old about?

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<v Speaker 1>She might be a super hot, but what am I

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk to her about?

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<v Speaker 3>I have to So for me, if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>put a hierarchy on on females, like they got to

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<v Speaker 3>be attractive to a certain respect, but they one or

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<v Speaker 3>two points up or down, it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>that variable for me. But the the intelligence, they got

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<v Speaker 3>to be intellig I love talking to you, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have someone that's intelligent.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they're not intelligent, what are you going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you if you go for a hike with

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<v Speaker 1>them and you're like, they're staring at the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>eating rocks or something.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just like they're staring at their ass in front

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<v Speaker 2>of you. You just keep your keep your.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, sex only lasts so long as a percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, and it's like no, no way, no way.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, showing up with a different presence physically, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in good shape too as well, that's that makes

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<v Speaker 3>it more confident inspiring. But it shows up differently for women, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they get way more attracted to it, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's surprising because I'm still not used to it. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable in my own skin, but I'm not comfortable to

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<v Speaker 3>the physical intention.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not used to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the fact that I told you that women were

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<v Speaker 2>going to throw themselves at you as soon as you

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<v Speaker 2>went out there, and you were like yeah, whatever, and

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden like oh hey.

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<v Speaker 1>What the Yeah, this wasn't like when I was nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>and one hundred and seventy pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's a different world out there, for sure about

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<v Speaker 2>what we all want, what we're looking for, and with

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<v Speaker 2>that comes responsibility. Yeah, because you could be the kid

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<v Speaker 2>in the candy store just like oh they should I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really care about any consequence here, I'm just doing

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<v Speaker 2>everything and yet how would that it would serve your ego?

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<v Speaker 2>But how would that serve you in general? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think if that's where you were.

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<v Speaker 1>Like transactional kind of sex things? Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>This all comes back to for me, I don't the

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<v Speaker 3>transactional sex is fine, but it's I don't like to burking.

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<v Speaker 3>I want a steak, so I would sit out for

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<v Speaker 3>a state my perception of women, and I'd rather wait

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<v Speaker 3>for that steak. But I think this all wraps in

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<v Speaker 3>for me thinking about this is like once you learn

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<v Speaker 3>the kind and what the difference between kind and nice is.

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<v Speaker 3>Once you get comfortable in your own skin, once you

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<v Speaker 3>can calm yourself down, you start showing up differently. And

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, the girl I just broke up with,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't date now because I'm a different person than

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<v Speaker 3>when we started. So that's once you start to understand

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<v Speaker 3>who you are and how to comfort yourself, you start

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<v Speaker 3>showing up differently, and different women start showing up in

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<v Speaker 3>your life at a most likely a lot higher level

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<v Speaker 3>than you've ever had in your past. So that's the

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<v Speaker 3>part I don't I know the interior results of how

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<v Speaker 3>I feel and now I'm physically showing up, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see the exterior results. Meaning now I'm seeing the

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<v Speaker 3>women show up, and I'm like and business opportunities. Actually

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<v Speaker 3>everything's getting a lot better because I know. I know

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm showing up different in differently in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>and my mindset's different and my habits are different, and

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<v Speaker 3>everything's changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I decided to go down this path. It's not easy,

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<v Speaker 1>but my life is.

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<v Speaker 3>A thousand, a million times better than it was when

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<v Speaker 3>I was married, like a million. I can't even measure it.

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<v Speaker 3>And so like myself myself, just if I didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>better than.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was married.

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<v Speaker 2>So just feeling better, just feeling better about life and yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>But so the business part is interesting too, right because

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<v Speaker 2>if you think about it now, like who you are

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<v Speaker 2>and how you have relationships with anybody, anybody, everybody, anybody

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<v Speaker 2>is different, and so how does that help when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to business? I mean, can you like take a

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<v Speaker 2>step out, like what what would that have been like

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that.

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<v Speaker 3>When you first Oh shit, man, like if we'd have

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<v Speaker 3>done this, I wish we'd have known each other when

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<v Speaker 3>I was like a teenager, after deal with a million

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<v Speaker 3>different things I dealt with as a child, and none

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<v Speaker 3>wrapping these trauma up things earlier because I would be

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<v Speaker 3>man from business perspective, million miles ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>But from a.

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<v Speaker 3>Business perspective, you start showing up like present day. You

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<v Speaker 3>start showing up differently. In negotiations, you start showing up

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<v Speaker 3>differently and how people want to put you in partnerships,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I had a guy that wanted to I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to buy self storage companies right now. And this guy's

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<v Speaker 3>worth like, let's say, ten million dollars and I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>worth ten million, and he's done stuff I've not done,

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<v Speaker 3>and I really wanted to get in the room with him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got in the proverbial room with him to

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<v Speaker 3>help buy a storage company. And the way he negotiated

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<v Speaker 3>it was not advantageous for me. But in the past

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<v Speaker 3>I would have sacrificed and literally eaten shit because I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to learn. But now I'm like, no way. I

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<v Speaker 3>know my value, I know my strengths, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>there's more opportunities. It's like when you're in a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>like the girl I just broke up with I thought

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<v Speaker 3>there was only one woman, you know, that was going

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<v Speaker 3>to love me, because I just went from a terrible relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>So you start taking these things you learned in an

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<v Speaker 3>intimate relationship and applying in the business and knowing that

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<v Speaker 3>there's always another business opportunity, there's always another relationship. If

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<v Speaker 3>this doesn't fit me, it doesn't fit me, and go

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<v Speaker 3>to the next one. And so I showed up differently,

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<v Speaker 3>and I look at business opportunities differently because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>there's a plethora of stuff out there's a plethoro of

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<v Speaker 3>women out there. This woman doesn't work, or this business

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work. It doesn't work, so move on to the

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<v Speaker 3>next one. Because it's like, what was the guy I

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<v Speaker 3>can't remember his name, the Virgin Airlines, rich Richard Branson,

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<v Speaker 3>and he says, like businesses are business opportunities. Like buses.

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<v Speaker 3>You know one will leave and one will definitely be

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<v Speaker 3>coming right down right around the corners. Just sit and

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<v Speaker 3>wait for the next one. And so it's same with

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<v Speaker 3>women and same with business, and same with everything. There's

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<v Speaker 3>always another opportunity, but your time is not You don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how much more time. So sitting around and waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for the perfect opportunity to get out of a situation

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work. It's not it's not healthy. It's not healthy

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<v Speaker 3>to step into it. You have to step into the pain.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not fun like you're saying it's I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know there's a difference between men and women.

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<v Speaker 1>But the the it was hard. It's super hard. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the better you get it doing the harder things,

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<v Speaker 1>the better your life is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I think one of the things that has always

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<v Speaker 2>worked well for me in life is that I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of being uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You know if it's my own discomfort, or you know

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<v Speaker 2>that I've got to say something to somebody else that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be on comfortable or whatever, until like, I

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<v Speaker 2>just got to experience discomfort that I haven't experienced in

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<v Speaker 2>a long long time. I don't know if you I've

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<v Speaker 2>said this on the Lap with the last guest, but

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<v Speaker 2>I one of my goals this year was to make

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<v Speaker 2>a music album.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay you mentioned that your last time, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, And I just shared my the first song I

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<v Speaker 2>created out into the few people, and it scared the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck out of me. I was so surprised. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you. I like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't what if I have not had that feeling about anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when I put out books or i'm speeches

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever the hell I'm doing, I'm just hear it whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's been a while since I which I

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<v Speaker 2>was like curious, like what does this mean? Why am I?

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<v Speaker 2>That was so an interesting, like fascinating. But that makes

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<v Speaker 2>me that.

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<v Speaker 3>They call that growth in my industry. You see, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what an opportunity growing is. And I'm just glad you're

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<v Speaker 3>on your podcast to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>God, you know what, Thank you, Sar. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're the way you're laying that out for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're laying that down for me is something that I

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<v Speaker 2>find really growth. So I should probably write that. Should

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<v Speaker 2>I put that in my notebook?

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<v Speaker 1>There's something l seventeen letters.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to grow awesome, And so that growth thing,

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<v Speaker 2>what should I do? Tell me? Give me some tangible steps,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is how we're going to end this, So

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<v Speaker 2>give me.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have not opened my mouth. That's what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Lean into the uncomfort the discomfort that I'm feeling for growth,

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<v Speaker 2>What should I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's great, you get comfortable getting uncomfortable about what

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<v Speaker 3>I do. If I was in your shoes, I would

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<v Speaker 3>write down the emotional what your emotional feeling right then

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<v Speaker 3>and kind of sit with that and be like, why

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<v Speaker 3>is this feeling?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it excitement? Is it fear? Is it anxiety?

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<v Speaker 3>And kind of sit with each one of those words,

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<v Speaker 3>and is it something from the past or is it

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<v Speaker 3>something that's exciting you because an opportunity to grow there

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<v Speaker 3>and that that's just because I'm thinking about same thing,

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<v Speaker 3>which is I want to do a five minute stand

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<v Speaker 3>up comedy thing and I haven't set it out yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, or it, So I'm like and I'm super sarcastic,

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't think it'll be hard. But it's one

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<v Speaker 3>of those things where my stomach goes, oh shit, Like

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<v Speaker 3>buying self storage doesn't do that, Buying companies, building these

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<v Speaker 3>other properties I'm building.

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<v Speaker 1>And dating, none of that gets me scared per se,

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<v Speaker 1>but this kind of gets me like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that I bombed my first comedy to

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<v Speaker 2>be fucking hard and you know how funny I am?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit bomb the fuck out of it. It was devastating,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna do it again. I have a friend

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<v Speaker 2>who does stand up when I've worked on a three

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<v Speaker 2>minute stet, so we'll we'll have to have some fun together. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>lean into this, guys. You got to lean into the discomfort,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's your emotion, something you're avoiding, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll find out that people who are successful, like Farrien,

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<v Speaker 2>I would put him in success category for sure myself.

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<v Speaker 2>People that are successful learn how to deal with their

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<v Speaker 2>emotion a landscape, and their ability to feel the feelings

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<v Speaker 2>that are scary and uncomfortable instead of distract from them.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of you know, run from them, avoid them whatever

510
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<v Speaker 2>the hell is happening here, you learn to lean into

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<v Speaker 2>it because you figure out that even though it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like it might kill you. And I know that most

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<v Speaker 2>men I've talked to, and I'm talking about like X

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<v Speaker 2>you know, special ops, marine guys and all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>things are scared that when they break open that feeling,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll never stop and they'll be devastated by that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, especially if you're going about with the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>person or wrong partner.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very challenging, absolutely and it's not that people won't

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of that. Yes, can you be emasculated by

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<v Speaker 2>somebody 'or with when they ask you to show up

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<v Speaker 2>emotionally and you do and they're toxic and don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to handle it. Yes, that's horrible. You should hear

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<v Speaker 2>what I tell women that do that to men. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to hear me tough with man, you should

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<v Speaker 2>hear what I am with women who know better. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>The women are always like, oh, we're couples with Tanya,

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<v Speaker 2>she's gonna like and then I look at the woman

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, that ship's got to stop now, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, wait, hold up, the guys'll be me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So women have more ability to handle more stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>I make women way more accountable and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the ship that's going on. And uh, but yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>it's always going to be about not distraction. It's always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be about showing up for what's actually really

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<v Speaker 2>happening inside of you. And if you don't feel anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not alone. It's not that you're stoic or devoid

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<v Speaker 2>of those feelings. Is you've become really good at distracting

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<v Speaker 2>your self. Thanks Baron, I really appreciate being on.

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<v Speaker 3>You're awesome, always fun, Tanya, thank you for the Opportunity's

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<v Speaker 3>fun to chat with the funnesty of your smile and face.

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<v Speaker 1>I know nobody else gets to see it right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever, it's good time. I appreciate it

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<v Speaker 2>And gentlemen, we'll be back.
