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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gee

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First Podcast, Episode six hundred and sixty five.

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Speaker 2: I'm the Doctor Trash Now I'm joined by.

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Speaker 3: I am the Alpha Hog, Curricle Patzer, and then Mark

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Cast Jill Mss.

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Speaker 4: I'm the iodine to the field.

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Speaker 2: Yes, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Man, we have a good one, I think, and so

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I think it's gonna be very interesting review.

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Speaker 2: You might be thinking, hey, did you guys reveal the others?

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Of course we did.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know our thoughts before we get

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to the actual one, and maybe you're leading up to it,

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you just hear for Nonspoilers, we did review twenty eight

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days and weeks later.

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Speaker 2: They're on the Patreon.

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Speaker 1: Go check that out, along with The Mission Impossible, Superman

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Fantastic Four. Those are our retro series this year and

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there'll be some fun just spin off funds come in

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the fall.

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Speaker 2: But we did talk about those other two, so if

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you want our full in depth thoughts there and there.

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Speaker 1: I think the first one's a really good discussion, and

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I think the second one is a very fun discussion

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which leads to a lot of what ifs and like

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what would you do?

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Speaker 2: In this situation and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So glad people are listening to that and getting the

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kick out of that, and you know, find out how

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Taylor would respond incorrectly. But I feel that, you know,

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this one presents with some more opportunities, more conversation. So

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I'm gonna throw to the man who's seen it firstly,

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who's seen it the longest, mister muss he saw this afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Before the longest. I don't know if that's you've.

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Speaker 2: Seen it for the longest. Right out of all of us,

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you've seen you know long.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you make it sound like I'm gonna have a

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more informed take, but now now I have to. Now

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I feel like the pressure is on that I have

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to sound really smart and cool during this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't gonna throw it correctly because he just

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got home, so it's given him time to sit on it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: He liven Taylor for the last because he's a twenty

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days later, saw me guy, So I thought of you,

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because oh you've you've sat with it and people.

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Speaker 2: Already heard me intro, so they're already sick of me.

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So you're the perfect gateway.

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Speaker 5: I'll take that. Take that baton, man. I I don't

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know where to start with this one. This is a

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this is a crazy movie. I think that this is

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a series if you go back to those retros, Like

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I hadn't seen either of these movies until when did

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we do the first retro last month? So like you know,

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an go pretty pretty fresh and coming for both of them,

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like pretty lukewarm the second one like luke cold, even

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like it's not really my cup of te You didn't

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really love these movies, and so I was very excited

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to do this retro and go to this movie in

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like the coming months, talking about it on trailers and

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things like that. But then you know, after then the

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retro's like, okay, well, my high level is a little

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bit lower. I think the expectations are pretty low on this,

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and so I think I'm kind of out of this,

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like very happy and very surprised. And I think maybe

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one of the big reasons is that going back to

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that first movie, you know, it's not it's not perfect.

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We all talk about how like maybe kind of drags

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and the third act and stuff, but I feel like

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it was a very weird and different and pretty stylish

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movie in terms of like the music and the vibes

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of it and even just a look, and we talked

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about like a lot of the camera tricks and things

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they used, and so it ends up having like a

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very unique vibe to it. And then the second one.

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like it was kind of vibeleist, like it was just

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very generic, very boy. The book kind of lost that

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style and replaced it with like no style whatsoever, and

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like it's ten to twenty percent two stylish, Like it's

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too much. It's like a scattershot of tons of stuff.

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The editing in this movie is fucking wild, and I

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was thinking about it, I'm like, I feel like most movies,

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you know, you could give the editors like all the

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same shots, right, probably nine percent of the time is

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a random number off the top of my head. Nine

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percent of the time you'll get like a mostly similar movie.

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movie all the shots that they have to a one

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hundred different editors, I think you get a hundred completely

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different movies just because it is all over the place.

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It's crazy, and I love that because it's super weird.

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And different. It makes me think about a lot of stuff.

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when we get to the spoiler section, I need to

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just ask you guys about because I have no idea

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what some of these things are supposed to mean, if

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they're supposed to be anything, what the deeper meaning is,

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if they're connecting on the story stuff in a deeper level.

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So ultimately I come out of this, I'm like, I

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just love movies like this that give me a lot

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to chew on, a want to think about. And I

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wasn't really expecting that after what the first two movies were.

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So yeah, I think there's some really great emotional depth

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of that this movie. It goes to at certain points

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and times. I think some of the action stuff's really good.

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what like thirty six iPhones at one time, and it

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looks like in a weird way, like this movie looks

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so different than a lot of other things, and it

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brings back some Pink Floydi music from the first one.

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So yeah, I'm pretty hot on this. But also it

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does feel like there's, like I said, kind of ten

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to twenty percent too much style, Like there's so much

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grafted on to this and I feel like maybe they

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could have pulled a little bit off to make it

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a little bit cleaner. So I don't know, feel it

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feels like a very murky situation here. But I'm very

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excited to break this one down. I think there's a

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lot to break down. This is an interesting ride.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I'll go kirking you think a little longer.

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It's funny you brought up the retro.

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Speaker 1: This remind me and this probably spoils my thoughts for

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the movie, but this reminds me of when we did.

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Speaker 2: The John Wick retro and john Wick four happened. And

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I'm not sure where your level is, but for me,

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that was retro series similaris where like, Okay, I like

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the first one.

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Speaker 1: This one only has one fall, but still was like,

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all right, this is fine. But like I was excited,

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I was more curious to see, like it's been a

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long time for a sequel, Danny Boyle hasn't been this

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world for a while. I was garling, like fantastic writer, director,

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He's back. So I was just more curious, And the

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trailers were really good, so I'm like Okay, I can't

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wait to see this, And much like with John Wick,

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I was going into like, all right, I haven't loved

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this series, but let's see what happens. And that's exactly

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happening with this and John Wig. Four end up loving

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and I end up loving this.

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Speaker 2: I am in shock by saying this is my movie

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the year I loved Sinners.

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Speaker 1: But there's your spoyl. I put this above six. Yeah

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really because for me, what I was not expecting in

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Sinners has some of this too.

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Speaker 2: But this movie is hardcore.

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Speaker 1: This movie is nasty, it's dirty, it's mean, but then

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it's super like at times beautiful. And I don't mean

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by oh the shots of visions. I mean like the

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storytelling and what these characters are going through and the

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messages they have, you know, like just like Myersports. It's

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mostly in the third act, but there's stuff where it's

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like I was not expecting to be choking up during

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twenty eight years, not at all, not never had that

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on my Bengo card. That happened to me multiple times

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in the third act, and it's just it's it's beautiful,

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it is grace.

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Speaker 2: It's very odd, just like don't even talk about the

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style of the movie. The whole movie's odd but been in

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a good way where even after that beautiful stuff, right away, okay.

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Speaker 1: Something really crazy is going on, you know. So it's

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and they do the bounce pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I have one minor critique, but my minor critique I

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completely understand why they did it. It just feels like

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a little off but no end performances all around. I've

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said this before. I have to do a study that

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maybe Aeron Taylor Johnson is only great when he gets

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to do his natural accent.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking that that's what it is because I still

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seeing Craven. But in Craven, did he do like a

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Russian accent? Or was he American?

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Speaker 1: Or Okay, I like bullet train this. I'm trying to

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think of other stuff. But I think those are times like, oh,

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he's good. This is I don't know, like a big

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Eron Taylor Johnson guy. So I can't maybe say this,

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but I think this is probably his best performance. Jody

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Coemor's fantastic. This, I'll find out the kid's name. He's fantastic,

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fines this fantastic across the board. There's certain things that

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a chapter of the twenty years or Day's world and

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I say, okay, am I gonna miss X, Y and

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me completely adapted the universe. Well, they evolved it, which

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is great because this almost feels like it's oh it

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has like even visually it sometimes looks a lot like

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how we talked about with twenty eight Days Later, where

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it looks very old, and he used the type of

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camera where it's like, Okay, this is a lot older

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than you needed to do in the late nineties or

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early two thousands, and same thing this reopens up, You're like, oh,

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it looks old. It almost looks like this should come

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out in like two thousand and five.

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Speaker 2: But that's what I love about it. But that's what's

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weird is it's still the same writer. Not weird, it

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just shows how much time has passed out. Great there

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it's the same writer and same director. But there's at

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Speaker 1: Grew up with twenty eight Days Later, and they had

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this in remind like, oh, if I could make a

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sequel this is what it would be.

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Speaker 2: But no, it's just the two that started it. They've

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evolved and.

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Speaker 1: They're just that damn good. I talk about Bond directors

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right now. Danny Boyle almost directed a Bond movie. I

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very much want that now after this, I'm like, man,

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that to me is shot up my front runner. But no,

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across the board sound design, visuals, like Dylan said, there

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is some wacky, crazy shots that take you out of

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it for a second, because I feel like it does

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remind you it's a movie, and at times it almost

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feels like a video game. Some of these like slow

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motion action stuff. But I still wouldn't take it out

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because it like it that was allowed vehicle.

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Speaker 2: There's two.

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Speaker 1: My god, I wouldn't take it out because it adds

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some uniqueness to it. So yeah, this was a huge

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surprise for me and I cannot wait for more. Please

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go see this movie so we can get I know

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two at least happening, but they said three depends on

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this man. I am very much invested in this world

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and they're still just everything they introduced. We have a

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lot to talk about. I'm very interested in the concept.

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So yeah, to me, absolute home run. Kudos to the

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team loved this movie so.

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Speaker 5: And with the second one, we know it's called the

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Bone Temple. If you're curious what the heck that means,

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this movie will answer that for you. You will know

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what a bone temple is, so will.

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Speaker 6: It will it fully answer that.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you get thoroughly enjoyed this movie. So

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that's like my quick review rating. But like I was,

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I was very confused throughout. I feel like this movie

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has a lot of setup in it, like we get

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introduced to a lot of just wild stuff. I feel

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go through something and then it's like, man, I can't

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see you next time. Well, you know, we're getting the

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next movie, So I'm gonna hold my breath for it.

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Speaker 6: But I think it because I was, I.

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they're thrown at us. And it's not like just one

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big thing. It was it was a handful of them. Obviously,

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thoroughly enjoying everything about it, like sound design. Like you said,

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what the original was. And the original one had just

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gripped by this film. Highly highly recommend watching it. But

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really enjoy it, but I yeah, it definitely it's hard

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judge it on that, but I don't know. It's it's

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tough to say right now because I don't want to

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say anything that might spoil something, but definitely recommend it.

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I think performances, especially by the lead what was his

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name here, Alfie Williams. I like the boy Spike so

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fantastic as a lead, Like man, he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And if you haven't seen the other ones, I don't

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think you have to at all. Honestly, I think this

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is like a okay movie to jump in. I don't

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know if you guys feel the same way, but yeah.

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the later ones are going to start to get more

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into the like, h you probably should see them all,

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you know. I feel like they'll go that rope, but

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this one I feel like you could pick up and

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just they'll fill you in enough of what's going.

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like Aranta Johnson's teaching his son to hunt and using

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that character's exposition is fantastic because he's just quizzing his son.

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well this is what happened they say, it was like no,

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it's okay, I've told you this, you know, you repeated

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back to me. But for us, some of the stuff

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we know and some of the stuff we don't because

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it's been twenty years. So there's a great way to

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drop that exposition. That felt very natural and again.

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Speaker 2: Very video very video gaming.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Will said, Last of Us inspired, like some of this,

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it's like this had like the last of his game.

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Speaker 2: This has all that over this, Like it feels like

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like a character as like Amnesia to do that sort

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of thing, right, but this is just like, ah, I

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we'll just put a kid in that in that spot instead.

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Speaker 2: M hmm, mister Field.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, this this movie. I was thinking it would

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be one other, complete, different thing based on the trailers,

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and I'm so happy the trailers do a dang good

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job and misleading or at least not giving you enough

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context of what's going on. When you actually sit down

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and watch this movie, that that makes for a much

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much better time because trailers these days they give you

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all the context, all the information, and then there you go.

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Speaker 4: It's it is what it is.

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Speaker 7: But this movie has a lot of surprises and it

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has a lot of things that you see the scenes

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in the trailer. You don't have the context. You just

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don't know. When you watch it, it's like, wow, this

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is totally different when I was thinking, and it's it's

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really really good.

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Speaker 7: It's It does a good job at presenting the Okay,

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this is the problem, this is what we're dealing with,

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and then it carries on to okay, how things have changed,

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and then it carries on to where things are going.

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its own. Like you said, Kirkling, you don't need to

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really watch the other two. If you watch this and

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this is your first time getting into it and you

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want more of this world, Boom, there's two more that

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you can you can get into, and those two on

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their own, they stand for if someone is really engaged

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with this this franchise, they can get at it. But

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they're also set for different type of audiences with different

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demographics because they're both done very very differently. The camera

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work in this completely caught me off guard. When you

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get certain I'm not gonna say because it's a spoiler,

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but just the way the camera turns at certain sequences,

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it's like, Wow, I was not expecting that. And it's

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so unique because I don't know if I've ever seen

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something like that before. I feel like it's it again.

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a video game when you do something specific and it's

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just it's it was really really cool. I've never seen

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anything like that before on the big screen before. So

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I that being said, I think a little too much

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of that could be bad, but I think there was

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just the right amount that they threw in here and

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you got something there, Travis.

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Speaker 2: And that's when you're talking about I've ever seen that before.

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Speaker 1: There's never been anything like that before, like the Table

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of twenty four, but it's so.

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Speaker 6: Disc it's waste level a couple of times, Oh, they.

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Speaker 2: Had lots of waste level cameras.

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Speaker 1: But it's funny seeing this now but now seeing the film,

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you exactly know how that works when it's designed for right,

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because I think in their discord, we're like, oh.

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Speaker 2: Why so many of this and that? But then the

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second thing we have is like, oh, that's you know, well,

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you know cool, or you know, it might have been

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some overuse, but still it's uh, right away.

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Speaker 6: Gorilla filmmaking. That's bullshit, that's not gorilla film.

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Speaker 4: I say, that's gorilla No, that's not gorrilla film. Thrillilding

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your own like platform and putting cameras on it.

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Speaker 5: The I phones are like cheap and they just like

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you fall out of like a cereal box, but expensive.

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Speaker 6: We don't have that movies.

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Speaker 1: The definition of gorilla filmmaking is like The First Evil Dead,

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where it's Bruce Campbell, Sam Raim and a few friends

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and they're out there for days like legit animally getting

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like hypothermic because they're so fucking cold. They got no budget.

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like that's I would not say it's gorilla making. It's uh,

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you know, I don't know again because remember how this

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was pitched. It's just an iPhone and everything we've seen

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from this, it's not just an iPhone. You know, I

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appreciate it, but it doesn't make anything less cool just

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saying not it's.

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Speaker 2: Not grilla making.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 7: The other thing that I really really liked about this

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is the amount of world building that it's done. You

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don't get a lot of that in Zombie Flix. I know,

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these aren't zombies, they're they're people that are infected, but

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that being said, you don't get that kind of context

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in those types of movies, and it's just it's really

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neat to see them not lay it down on you,

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but you just you're going through the narrative and it's

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just sprinkled in and I really appreciate that because that

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you just get these little tidbits like notes like oh something,

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this person says, oh something that's going on here, and

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then you can just look at the overall world that

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Speaker 4: Okay. You know, you know, generally certain limitations certain I

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don't want to say that because that's a spoiler, but

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I'm excited.

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Speaker 7: I'm excited to break this down because there's just there's

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so much in here that I feel like people are

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not expecting and it's it's a really, really good time

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and I definitely recommend it.

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Speaker 4: You should go see this in theaters. Absolutely, Well, there

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you go.

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Speaker 2: We a lot of recommendations. Anything else.

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Speaker 1: Non spoilers shut out, Yeah, going once, going twice, Sold

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to the lady in the White gloves.

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after the sad break.

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Speaker 1: And we're back if you don't want that a break,

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or like we talked about many others stuff you had

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a patron.

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Speaker 2: The link is down below, like for everything you know

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the discord how to suscribe to video audio. We very

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much appreciate that. August ninth is our GV day, which

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is gonna be a ten hour stream at least could

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be more if you subscribe up your tier Patreon. Tomorrow

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actually gues we got Netflix and Fail. We're gonna be

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watching Extinction.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be quite the whiplash effect from watching you know,

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two movies I haven't seen before or twenty years later

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two of that. But uh, I don't know I about

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the same high remarks. But it's gonna be a fun time,

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so look out for everything dropping next like a month

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and a half, lots of ten year celebration content and yeah,

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get everything. Add free Scoots episodes, early episodes. You can

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call in for that show another after nights. It's a

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good time boy. Where where should we start with? Well,

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we obtually have to start with the Patroon producers. Aaron

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bray Abo Darkness, Jack Grant, Sam's We've Bet Mike God

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Loves Me sixty nine, Jimmy Renner, who was not in

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this movie unfortunately, Charlie Rendell and Cocktail Clay and yeah,

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final warning if.

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Speaker 2: Anyone's curious, this is a spoiler. Walson. Now.

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Speaker 1: From now on we're gonna be talking about everything that

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happened this film. So oh Taylo's fingers going. But I'm

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gonna throw to Kirkland first.

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Speaker 7: Well, speaking of people that are not in this movie,

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and unless I forgot all, I miss it, uh Killian

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Murphy was not in here.

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Speaker 2: I was. He was the one hanging upside down, the

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bag over his head.

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Speaker 4: That was him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a tattoo on his shoulder.

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Speaker 4: You fucking trolling me, man, This fucking guy.

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Speaker 6: The Alpha.

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Speaker 5: You got the steroid, the one in like the flower Field. Uh,

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that's what everyone thought that Spike kills right, yeah, him.

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Speaker 2: He's not it and he's not him. I wasn't sure

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if he heard you not.

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Speaker 1: Danny Boyle confirmed when we're getting Killing Murphy, so that

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is that's out there. So but it was known before

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that was not this one. I think he was smart,

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even though I'm sure not all the gas like one

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star no Killing Murphy, but he did. I can't remember

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where they screened it first. They did someone where they

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screened the first twenty minutes later, you know, fun but

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he said like, yeah, just the temper expectations, like killing

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is not in this movie, and he has revealed when

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he is coming the series and whatnot, so okay, see

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it's soon enough.

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Speaker 3: So they had to choose a Killian Murphy looking zombie

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for all the marketing.

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Speaker 6: Remember over the posters.

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two days, everyone thought this was Killing Murphy. How does

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Killy Murphy feel about that? You know, like like and

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00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,200
I get it.

475
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 5: Because he's looking like a decrepity.

476
00:20:20,279 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 6: He's just getting gains.

477
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 1: Ever since first look at a skinny zombie and was like, yeah,

478
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,720
that's that must be Killian Murphy.

479
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,079
Speaker 4: You know.

480
00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 2: So but yeah, no, no, Killian Murphy. We start off

481
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,319
with uh, I guess is village is right? What would

482
00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:37,680
you call this place where they are town? Village, community,

483
00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:40,599
Hamling the community.

484
00:20:40,599 --> 00:20:44,039
Speaker 5: I don't like him by the shire, uh island people.

485
00:20:44,519 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have a name. I can't remember.

486
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,519
Speaker 6: But anyways, like Jimmy's town, is that what you're talking about?

487
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy talking about you know.

488
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,799
Speaker 4: Mmy, No Holly Island.

489
00:20:54,839 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, let's circle back. Let's circle back we will.

490
00:20:58,599 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 1: How about let's talk about the beginning thing when we

491
00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:03,519
get to the end, because that kind of shut Jimmy. Yeah,

492
00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:06,759
the Jimmy stuff, you know, little Jimmy. But the after

493
00:21:06,759 --> 00:21:09,759
the beginning when we meet our main characters, Jody, you know,

494
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,839
I can't even remember their name names. Now there was Samp,

495
00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:19,359
there was Ice, and then what was the kid's name?

496
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 2: Again, I forget that. I don't know.

497
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,039
Speaker 3: To be fair, I needed subtitles for this movie. I

498
00:21:26,039 --> 00:21:30,000
feel like I missed a lot of the dialogue.

499
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 4: Like the thick accents are nice though, But anyway, it.

500
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 6: Was like Spike for a long time.

501
00:21:39,839 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: It's a but Yeah, we start off in this community

502
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,160
where it is seemingly uh, there is life.

503
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,839
Speaker 2: You know, there's a bunch of people around.

504
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,799
Speaker 1: There's people I guess jobs are cooking, you know, people

505
00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:54,680
are seem living happily. And Spike he's woken up by

506
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,880
his dad and okay, today's day and we kind of

507
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,960
figured where this was going to the trailers and you know,

508
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,319
he's gonna go hunting. But is there anything I think

509
00:22:01,319 --> 00:22:03,480
we kind of seen, like saw some of this community

510
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,000
stuff in the trailer, but was there anything things specifically

511
00:22:06,039 --> 00:22:08,440
before we get to like the big stuff about this

512
00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:11,640
that you wanted to bring up or move forward or

513
00:22:11,759 --> 00:22:12,599
I Yeah.

514
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 5: One one thing I'm curious how you guys felt about

515
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,359
this is like, I you know, as a lot of

516
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,839
this movie is we're getting it for like from the

517
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,599
perspective of a Spike as you were talking about of

518
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,440
like you know, getting the tutorial of the world and

519
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,759
all that, but there's a lot of stuff with the

520
00:22:24,759 --> 00:22:27,680
town that was just super weird and felt kind of

521
00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:29,200
culty And I didn't know if they were trying to

522
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,079
reference back to like the beginning sequence and like the

523
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,079
church and this guy having like this kind of radical

524
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,839
view of things, but like like especially like the party

525
00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:38,559
when he comes back. Obviously the like they're feeding them

526
00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:40,720
alcohol and stuff, which makes him sick, but like it's

527
00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:43,599
just over stimulating. He doesn't seem to be into it

528
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,680
at all. We get like the old guy cruising around

529
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,680
and like the mask, and then we get like weird.

530
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,519
You know, Curtly, you're talking about like some of those

531
00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:51,880
crazy shots just edited in the middle of nowhere, and

532
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,680
we see various mask shots and stuff. So I don't know,

533
00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:56,880
I felt like they were trying to make the town

534
00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:59,359
like unsettling to a certain extent, but then other times

535
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,759
it's like a jolly old time, like when they're first

536
00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:04,559
walking out of the town and everyone's like, oh, Spike,

537
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,440
it's a big day and there's like a guy showering

538
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,200
in the street, and everyone seems happy and good. So

539
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,359
it did seem like a weird kind of mixture of

540
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,240
like super weird CULTI vibes and then just like, actually

541
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,519
this is.

542
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 6: Pretty normal, yeah, one hundred percent.

543
00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 3: I I I definitely got the vibe more so as

544
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,720
we I think just spent time like amongst the other

545
00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:27,200
people in the town, I mean, especially highlighting the uh

546
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,920
like the party at the end. It was giving me

547
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,480
like midsomar vibes, which is like like the tapestry even

548
00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:38,359
like our our land are whatever it was. It just

549
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,160
had like a slogan where it's like this is this

550
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,799
is strange and yeah it h I did like just

551
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,359
the initial like world building of the town, like like

552
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,400
when they're first leaving and you just have those signs

553
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,160
everywhere of like reminder like we're short, like you know,

554
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,880
take what you only what you need. That one guy's

555
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,519
just showering in the it's like trying to take too

556
00:23:57,519 --> 00:23:58,200
long of a shower.

557
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:58,319
Speaker 6: Like.

558
00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:01,839
Speaker 3: I just like all those little messages throughout, and I

559
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,119
mean it just was cool to see like this town

560
00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:08,759
not just in like the early stages of its formation,

561
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,880
like it's it's it is pretty established here. So yeah,

562
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,640
it definitely reminded me of Last of Us, but it

563
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,079
felt like just a more established town. I mean, defense wise,

564
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,119
way better strategically they have like a perfect spot.

565
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,039
Speaker 6: It's just way better.

566
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: Way yeah.

567
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,599
Speaker 7: Oh yeah.

568
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,799
Speaker 1: Also gonna un till later, but some of the views

569
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:29,799
they got going on in that place, my god, you

570
00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:33,920
know there's a beautiful skylight. Yeah, and I just feel

571
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,680
like there's a bit more fun going on there, which.

572
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see if that leaves anything bad.

573
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: But Yeah, I'm curious because what I loved about this

574
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,000
and we're gonna tell us throughout the movie we talked

575
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,240
about in twenty eight weeks later, we're like, Oh, they

576
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,240
set up this great family drama, what they're gonna do

577
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,839
with it? And they didn't really do anything with it?

578
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,480
Were this movie that's all it is is family drama

579
00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:55,640
of course with like the rage monster everything, but that

580
00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:57,960
is like a through line between the son, the mother

581
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000
and the father and then other stuff that's going on. Right,

582
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,519
But that's what I'm curious about, is none of the

583
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,640
drama was Oh because that community does this?

584
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: You know, Uh, what's ray fines is They're like, oh,

585
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,000
you're from there.

586
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: Like there was no signs whatsoever of this place being

587
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:17,799
shady other than the camera and like some scenes telling us, hey,

588
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,960
some stuff is a little messed up here. I don't

589
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,480
know if I need like supernatural or power telekinesis, but

590
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:27,160
I was wondering with Spike's dream there that felt a

591
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,440
little weird. So I'm starting to wonder if there's something,

592
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,039
if he can sense something that is off with the

593
00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:34,559
town that we haven't learned yet, because he has a

594
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,359
dream where it's covered in red and his mom's in

595
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,599
the fucking lake and her head's just bobbing around and.

596
00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:40,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, looking like the cover of the first movie, which

597
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:42,000
was kind of a fun little connection.

598
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: So that's why it's like is and that's a lot

599
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,000
of time when we saw some that stuff is from

600
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,359
his perspective, whether he was sleeping or wait, you know,

601
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,359
like daydreaming in the middle when he's like watching Guard

602
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,000
and he gets that. So that's why I'm wondering if

603
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:56,799
it's something with him. Uh But like I said, nothing

604
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,680
is in this movie relaying to that. But that's where

605
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,400
I'm gonna wait for the second because that wasn't a

606
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,480
big concert. Okay, I'm curious, but I feel like that

607
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:05,440
is stuff that maybe the second we'll get to because

608
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,480
obviously at the end we meet another faction that maybe

609
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,480
there's some issues between factions or communities or whatnot, because

610
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:13,119
the only other person we met was Ray Fienes and

611
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,480
he's just kind of definitely and again I can't even

612
00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:17,279
judge that because he's definitely doing his own thing. Feels

613
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:19,279
like he didn't care about anything. He's he's gonna help

614
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:24,400
you out, and so maybe not a good person. Where

615
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,680
the people we meet at the end, probably a bit

616
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,720
more in tune to what's going on with everything, right,

617
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:32,799
because even even the way I was wondering, Air Johnson

618
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:35,799
was asked like acting kind of shady when Spike's like, Hey,

619
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:36,279
what's going on?

620
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: Mom? Is she dying?

621
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,759
Speaker 1: And the fact that when tell her is like, okay,

622
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,319
what is going on with her? But obviously we get

623
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,079
to reveal later that. I don't think it was a

624
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,119
secret because they were mischievous. I think it's a secret

625
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,480
because like he's just protecting his son. So that's where

626
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,200
I don't know. Well, I guess we'll find out maybe

627
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:50,799
as we go along.

628
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, there's there's a lot of

629
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,160
like hints to something like that, like like just I'm

630
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,279
gonna call it like a power essential. I feel like

631
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,640
definitely I got that from Spike. But even the mom honestly,

632
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,759
I thought that was gonna be going like a specific way,

633
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,960
like she is some sort of infected or like some

634
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,200
yeah yeah, or like like some sort of because like

635
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,279
there's many moments where I mean, she's going through confusion

636
00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:22,480
multiple times throughout. We find out why that is later on,

637
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,559
But I thought it was just gonna be like she's

638
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,920
in and like she's hearing like it sounds like radio

639
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,200
waves or like frequencies, and it's just like what is

640
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,039
going on with this lady? And there's just many moments

641
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:34,720
where it just seems like she's being guided by something,

642
00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:38,240
and then we get you know, led later on when

643
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,400
she births that baby, it just seems like she's drawn

644
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,240
to it, and then it just never really like nothing

645
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:47,400
comes out of that at all, and then she's just

646
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:49,920
you know, Ray Fines brings out her skull here, put

647
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,720
her down, put her down, son, and then that's just

648
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:54,599
the end of the character. So I'm really hoping there

649
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,079
is something there because if not, it just seems like

650
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,640
a really convenient way of like, well, the mom was

651
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,359
just there to birth the baby, and there is no

652
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:04,519
explanation why that was. She was just the right time

653
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,559
at the right place, And personally, I don't really like that.

654
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:09,480
So I'm kind of holding my breath on that.

655
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say you said that it's all

656
00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:13,839
there was that. I mean, they didn't just decide to

657
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,839
put her down. You didn't mention that she had like

658
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,799
brain cancer or what?

659
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: Right?

660
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,519
Speaker 3: I alluded to it, okay, like story stuff, but like, yes,

661
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,720
that that like just the human side of like you know,

662
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:32,440
the what's the term Rafines called the momentous morales, saying, yeah,

663
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,920
all of that beautiful, and yes, I was getting choked

664
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,119
out with it with like just when with the Sun

665
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,839
realizing that he's losing his mom, and it was a

666
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,640
really beautiful scene. But just for like progressing the plot,

667
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,319
I thought she was gonna be like a really key

668
00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:46,720
figure and I don't think she was, even though like

669
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:48,759
for character growth, I guess you can make that argument,

670
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:50,119
but for telling the story.

671
00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she was key to I think she'll

672
00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:57,599
be key to Oostly Spike in many ways with the

673
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000
way she was raised. And also we didn't get more

674
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,720
with that rage baby mother because obviously she got shot

675
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,319
to shit and she did look like she's gonna attack,

676
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,799
but like that's still gonna be a window to like, Okay,

677
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:10,680
what else more is there? But I guess for me,

678
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:14,440
I really like that because the whole movie never thought cancer.

679
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: I'm think, okay, what like you said, is shake care,

680
00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:17,559
what's this? And everything?

681
00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:19,559
Speaker 1: But that's where I like, when they sit down, Refine

682
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,359
just says like, oh, we're all gonna die. It's just

683
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:24,519
many different ways, right, And you kind of think about

684
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:27,319
that where there's all the stuff going on. You could starve,

685
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,000
you could get killed by an alfas cock, you could

686
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:31,440
like get lost and drowned.

687
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: But this was just like, no, she got sick, and unfortunately.

688
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: Now we're in a world where you can do nothing

689
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,799
about it and you just kind of have to accept it.

690
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:40,960
And at least now she's gonna, i'd say, get a

691
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,759
pretty pain free death because you know, probably didn't feel anything.

692
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:45,759
Ray Fine puts her down and then she's kind of

693
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:47,640
moralized that. That's what I guess it worked for me,

694
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:49,799
was it worked enough for Spike. But I just love

695
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,559
that it was as simple as cancer because I was like,

696
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,759
I wouldn't even thought that.

697
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm thinking so much big picture, but it's like, no,

698
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,920
still in this shitty world, the same shit that happened

699
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640
twenty years later or twenty years ago, it can happen here.

700
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,680
And you're like, and it seemed worse because there is

701
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:06,720
no treatment. There's nothing there. And yeah, that whole sequence

702
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:09,559
when the sun got shot and then she got shot

703
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:10,079
with darts.

704
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: If people are for some reason listen to Spoison and

705
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,079
see the movie, it's like to make them, you know,

706
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,640
at ease. It's you know, numbing them and getting them

707
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,160
a little high and stuff. But that moment where it's

708
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,799
just like she's holding Spike and then Spike's holding the baby,

709
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,599
Jesus Christ, you know, I was ready to go.

710
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think I think that sequences is well,

711
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,839
not the sequence, Like the whole movie building up to

712
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,960
that is really great. Like even the first scene when

713
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:37,160
Spike and APJ are just in the in the kitchen

714
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:39,480
or yeah, in the kitchen having breakfast, and at one

715
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,720
point you hear here's like wailing and smashing the walls

716
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,319
a bit, and it's like that just sounds like an

717
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:45,720
infected up there are they just like walking her up

718
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:47,400
until there's like a cure and then they're gonna go

719
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,920
pup out a cure and so like obviously they're hinting

720
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,200
at it as early as that moment, and then there's

721
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,559
just various sequences throughout where she's acting a bit odd,

722
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:57,519
she's acting off, which you know very much ties into

723
00:30:57,559 --> 00:30:59,039
like the second movie and the mom in that movie.

724
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:00,480
You don't see a ton of her there. But when

725
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,519
they finally recover her from that house and bring her

726
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:05,240
back and she's locked up, she's acting strange, She's not

727
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,559
sharing a lot, and obviously like the mother connection between

728
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:09,759
those two characters, so I think they're trying to play

729
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:11,599
off that, and that's why I was wondering. It's like,

730
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:14,279
is she a carrier as well? And that's why she's

731
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:16,480
acting so strange? And is that gonna be the impetus

732
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:18,720
for war? How this village eventually goes to shit is

733
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,400
because I mean, I don't know. Presumably she's kissing ATJ

734
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,880
all the time, so it's not like she would transmit

735
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,279
it that way, but I don't know, maybe some other

736
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:26,640
way that would get transferred over to someone else and

737
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,039
that's what's gonna happen there. But obviously that's not what

738
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:30,440
the movie was doing. He was just setting it up.

739
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,599
And then even in that scene kind of when they

740
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,759
finally go on their adventure and they're sleeping for the

741
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,839
night and then like the crawler is coming up and

742
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,720
about to take him out, and then we kind of

743
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,799
get like, oh, I'm thinking it's probably the doctor who

744
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:44,200
saves them, and then they reveal it like thirty seconds later,

745
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:46,359
it's not too long where they reveal that it was

746
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,759
just the mom, and it was like, whoa that seems

747
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,400
really out of character for her. I didn't even think

748
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,400
she had that like amount of energy in her to

749
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,960
do something like that. And I don't know if that's

750
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,880
just like mother's instinct. Was that just like the rage

751
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,559
kicking in, like what was going on there? But I

752
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,559
think that was a really great shot to just throw

753
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,200
off the scent a little bit, like they did a

754
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,880
really good job of smoke screening the cancer behind obviously,

755
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,000
Like this is what this whole series is about to

756
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:08,640
this point.

757
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,799
Speaker 2: It's similar to the ending of the first movie where

758
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:12,920
they do the chillion right where they hide his eyes

759
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,960
you can't see when he's popping off the rage, the

760
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,920
same thing I thought when.

761
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,839
Speaker 1: That happened, Like, Okay, it's definitely what we talked about

762
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:21,519
twenty weeks later that maybe people are born or the

763
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:24,519
carriers are more often but we like, however, if they

764
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,240
eventually gets worse, it wears them down.

765
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking, especially with the nosemen.

766
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:29,799
Speaker 1: They Okay, it's where this is like a slow burn

767
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,440
rage where now it's okay, if you get bit that's

768
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,359
a ten twenty second, but if you get born or

769
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200
maybe infected this way, you could live with Like I

770
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,440
think we even talked about it like a cancer almost

771
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,000
in that second one of like you can live with

772
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:43,839
it for years, but eventually's gonna catch up to you,

773
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:46,200
you know so, But it didn't. It was just regular

774
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,119
old cancer that you can't you can't treat and everything.

775
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 5: So it's something that I wonder, how like going back

776
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,640
to the first movie, if that was part of the metaphor,

777
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,920
like the layers of what this thing is supposed to

778
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,720
stand for. I was looking up afterwards, I just go

779
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,000
with like Alex Garland cancer because I'm wondering, like there

780
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:06,720
must be someone in like obviously cancer, like like if

781
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,079
you haven't been touched by cancer in some way with

782
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:11,480
someone else in your life, like you're incredibly lucky, Like

783
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:13,440
it's just so prevalent, right, and so if like a

784
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,400
lot of the take in here just felt very nuanced

785
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,759
to me, and it felt like you must have had

786
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,440
someone in his life who's affected by this. And then

787
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,240
when I googled that, all I saw was that a

788
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:23,279
bunch of people are saying that like Annihilation is like

789
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:25,519
a big allegory for cancer, which I haven't seen that movie,

790
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:27,960
but okay, maybe it's like material he's kind of dealt

791
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,240
with before. But I think one of the sweetest moments

792
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,920
of it that made me tear up for sure, was

793
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,079
when Spike is just kind of in those last moments

794
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,759
thinking back on her, and he's not thinking about those

795
00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:43,519
moments when she's been aggressive or off or not like

796
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:45,079
the mom that he loves, but he's thinking about like

797
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,079
the goofy, little like hand things she did when they're

798
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:49,440
doing the like winky face thing. He's saying about like

799
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,680
those great moments, and that just reminded me a lot

800
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:54,480
of how I think about my grandma who died from cancer,

801
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:56,559
and I don't think about those moments those last few

802
00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:58,640
months when she was in the hospital and like had

803
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,960
no none of her personality anymore. I think of like

804
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,200
the funny jokes she would do, or how she would

805
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,720
like sing and dance with like her Garth Brooks cut

806
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:06,839
out that she had in the living room.

807
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 7: You know.

808
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 5: I think about like the fun like things about her

809
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,519
personality and not like these these moments that are kind

810
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:13,480
of sad and not like her. You know, it's like

811
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,599
that's when the cancer is taken over. So yeah, I

812
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:17,239
just I thought that was very nuanced, and maybe I

813
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,559
haven't seen like a movie about cancer in a while.

814
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:21,360
But I think that really hit me for sure, because

815
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,760
it was just bringing up some emotions I haven't felt

816
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,400
in a while. So yeah, once again, Travis, to your

817
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,119
point in the nonsplay, I was like, that's not what

818
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,079
I expected this movie to give me. So that was

819
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:32,480
like a really nice, surprising pivot, and I just thought

820
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,679
it was really well done. And yeah, tied in so

821
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,679
well with the material of what the first two movies are,

822
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,840
even if they didn't feel like that originally. So just

823
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,239
really really cool. Whether that was kind of planning from

824
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,079
the beginning obviously they didn't think they would make a

825
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:45,599
third movie twenty years later. Yeah, it's just cool.

826
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And like I get why I won't thought

827
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:51,679
about there's multi reasons that after that, there's continuing ending

828
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:56,280
and whatnot. But I was partially hoping when he puts

829
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,480
her skull on the whole bone temple thing, but then

830
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,679
he turns it to face the sunset and pan out

831
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,079
and just him with his arm around the bones and

832
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:05,400
the skull and they're both in the sunset. I'm like, oh,

833
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,559
you should end the movie right here like that that shot.

834
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:09,159
And I get what they because I felt like the

835
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,239
last fifty minutes was really like, we gotta still make

836
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,159
money and make sure people want to come back, which

837
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:17,159
I get right, because this isn't like it's not Gorillaming,

838
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:18,960
but it is independent in a sense where it's like

839
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,360
the first one where it's independently funded but still somewhat

840
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,599
back by a studio.

841
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:25,679
Speaker 2: So I get that. But I was like, man, that

842
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,719
shot right there, like that's the show I'm thinking of

843
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,800
this year so far. But yeah, how do you take

844
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,079
the the mom's stuff Jody coolmore?

845
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 7: Again, it was a curveball knowing that Okay, she is sick,

846
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,280
she has cancer. That was completely unexpected and I don't

847
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,639
think they alluded to the mom character and the trailers whatsoever.

848
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,159
So that was again a complete surprise, trying to catch

849
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,119
up to the idea that because she's freaking up a

850
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,440
freaking out upstairs, thinking like you guys highlighted, Oh yeah,

851
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:56,800
maybe she is infected.

852
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 4: Maybe she's a carrier. Who knows what this village is

853
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,039
up to. You don't know yet. Uh.

854
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:03,679
Speaker 7: I had to tell myself, Okay, no, it's it's got

855
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,719
to be that something else like this village wouldn't keep

856
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:10,519
them like infected in here because that just goes against

857
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,519
your proper judgment.

858
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very very risky.

859
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,559
Speaker 7: So the idea though, that she is sick and you

860
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:21,599
get this emotionally send emotional send off moment between them.

861
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: It was very unexpected. But yeah, it's a good reminder.

862
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:24,199
Speaker 7: Then.

863
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: I like the messaging too.

864
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 7: I can't remember the the Latin phrasing that they said,

865
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,599
but yeah, just the fact that I.

866
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 4: Did left remember after that.

867
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 7: It's such like aments, that's what you gotta remember, remember

868
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,119
that you'll die, and then you got to remember to

869
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:41,960
love and the two kind of go hand in hand

870
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,599
with each other. And yeah, I think everything everything with

871
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:52,719
Ralph's character was just fantastic. Rae Rae ray Fimes fine,

872
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,760
the doctor.

873
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,679
Speaker 2: It's Latin language.

874
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,119
Speaker 7: I I just thought he was fan and everything that

875
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:04,199
he had interacting with the mom and Spike was.

876
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: Really really good. But yeah, the.

877
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 7: Uh, the the concept of them dealing with dealing with

878
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,920
her sickness and just them trying to hide it. I

879
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480
didn't get the sense that it was anything sinister or shady.

880
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:23,039
It was just the the the idea that okay, that

881
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:25,000
the dad didn't know how to handle this, to process this,

882
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:26,920
and I feel like we've seen this kind of story

883
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,639
in other movies where you're dealing with the sick wife

884
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,920
and the dad's out cheating or sleeping around or doing

885
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,639
something because you can't process it and whatever, And what

886
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,000
did you.

887
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: Laugh about, Kirk? And what are you laughing on?

888
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 6: It's just adult.

889
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: It's just a funny series of events that that evening

890
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,239
because he's just well, you're taking me so done with

891
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:44,880
his wife.

892
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,679
Speaker 2: This guy, first of all, the Taylor, I don't know

893
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:51,880
why you made him sound like Ben Mendelssohn from a supernation.

894
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:54,079
Speaker 4: He was drunk and he had a different voice.

895
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta think about, man, what that guy goes

896
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,480
through in twenty four hours and hits the song, which

897
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,119
that's the lowest point of that character.

898
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: I still enjoy the character from other point of that.

899
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,519
I was like, oh, man, now you've gone too far.

900
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:08,719
But gets thrown out.

901
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 2: Of his own home.

902
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:11,559
Speaker 1: I would assume at some point goes back to try

903
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:14,280
and make good. Wife and son are gone, which when

904
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,639
that what was happening, when the sun set everything on

905
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,239
fire and.

906
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: He's taken him, I'm like, oh.

907
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:22,119
Speaker 4: My god, laughing you're a giggling.

908
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,519
Speaker 1: Because I was like, this is fucking especially she's like

909
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:27,320
sometimes in the Cosmo, she's out there, it's like this

910
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,960
is super risky, Like this is probably one of the

911
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,320
worst people you want to have out there.

912
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, you can not perform well

913
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,599
on his trial run, you know. I was like Aaron

914
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:37,480
Taylor Johnson carried that first mission.

915
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, they they.

916
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: Prompt him out, but still it's just like, Okay, fight

917
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,199
with his family, gets kicked out, goes back, family's missing.

918
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,079
And then next time you hear from your family, you

919
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,360
get a note from your son saying, hey, I'm not

920
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:49,920
coming back.

921
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,679
Speaker 2: Don't know when I'm coming back. Maybe one day. Your

922
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:53,360
wife's dead.

923
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, here's a baby named after your

924
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,199
wife as well, have a good one. And it's just like, man,

925
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,440
what a the if you thought this man was fucked

926
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,880
up before the particles that are blasting off in his

927
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,239
head right now, that's why he's just like looking like

928
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,639
Sam and Fellowship just yelling in the water at the end,

929
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:11,320
and yeah, I love that mo where he just like

930
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,920
he just just books it and gets to that door.

931
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,039
But no, that tide, that tide is too far out,

932
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:19,119
and he's just I love with each step he's like

933
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:22,480
falling is trying very far. No, no, no, that's that

934
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:24,679
tide is a big tide. And uh that's why I

935
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:25,000
love that.

936
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: That's a it's a flawed character, but it's like a

937
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,800
shade's a great character. It's not.

938
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: It is to the extent where we talked about in

939
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,239
twenty eight weeks later where they presented a like a

940
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,880
situation for that dad and we talk about what would

941
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,440
you do right?

942
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,599
Speaker 2: But then as time went on and it's like, Okay,

943
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:41,039
they think that.

944
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:44,159
Speaker 1: Character is very kind of, you know, just just allies

945
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:46,199
to the kids, kind of shitty to the wife because

946
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,400
oh I didn't mean to leave you. But at least

947
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,719
with Arthia Johnson, I feel like obviously he cares about

948
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,519
his son. I don't think he does not care about

949
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,079
his wife. I think it's just that he's stressed down.

950
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:58,880
They've probably not been romantic and really loving because like

951
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:02,199
there's a great moment when that happens and she throws

952
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,760
the stuff and she's mad and he walks away, I'll

953
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,119
go take care of him. Right before he goes to

954
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:09,480
the steps, he's like, he's like psyching himtuff, which people

955
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:11,800
can attest. I'm not saying, go cheat on your wiser's partners.

956
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,679
But I'm just saying, like people that have had to

957
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,559
look after people that are either whether it's cancer or dementia,

958
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,599
that stuff can wear anything. Especially again, this is a

959
00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,960
situation where there's no medicine, no doctors. It is you, dude,

960
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,679
every day in a world that has raged monsters. You

961
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,880
have a kid, so it's like I can get all

962
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,039
that stuff. I think he went he got too far

963
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:33,199
a sweet argument with the sun where he's punching the

964
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:34,000
walls and he hit him.

965
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: But the second he hit him, it wasn't like a yeah,

966
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,480
you shut your fucking mouth, kid, I'm your dad.

967
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: It was like he right away recoiled. He was born here.

968
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:43,199
He's like, oh, I totally fucked. It's sounded like yeah.

969
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,679
So I don't love many Irrita Johnson performances or characters,

970
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,920
but this is one. Now I cannot fucking say as

971
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,840
Killy Murphy and now Spike, I can't wait to see

972
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,079
where ATG is in two like because the same thing.

973
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:58,639
Speaker 2: Does he feel like he has to take care of

974
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,800
this baby or is he like that's not my fucking kid, like,

975
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,880
but I don't know will he do it as like

976
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,079
a make good of like I failed my family, and

977
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:09,079
I can't fail this kid, Like I'm so interested, And

978
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:10,840
I thought they did a great job with that character

979
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,880
of very shades of gray all over the place.

980
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, I think they They are kind

981
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,559
of playing in a couple of ways too, where when

982
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:20,480
you get that first scene when him and Spite go

983
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,000
out into the world and they eventually make it to

984
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:25,559
that house and there's a body hanging there from the

985
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:27,880
roof and the rafters, and that's when he's like, really,

986
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,599
you know, teaching him to kill this person or this

987
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:32,400
this raid manch what are you're gonna call it? And

988
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,480
he has that very specific line he's like, this thing

989
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:37,840
has no brain, no no heart, no soul anymore either.

990
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,280
Like he's very adamant this is not a human anymore.

991
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,679
And you know they're obviously playing out the personification of it,

992
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,320
because like there's a name written on this person's chest

993
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,920
and it's Jimmy's name. It's not this character's name, but like,

994
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,639
you know, making you feel like this is a human

995
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,079
and obviously he feels like, Okay, this is this person

996
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:54,440
is sick, this is not a person anymore. He makes

997
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,360
that total disconnection. I feel like they're playing you know,

998
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,719
obviously I would not expect him to feel the same

999
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,880
way about his wife that he does these rage monsters.

1000
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,760
But I think that idea is there, like this person

1001
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,440
is sick, this is not the this is not a

1002
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,880
person anymore to me, And so I think that angle

1003
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,159
of it is is cool. And once again like I, yeah,

1004
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:11,320
I feel like he's maybe short changed a little bit

1005
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,960
in terms of the ending here and in terms of

1006
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,639
the doing one doing part one of it all, like, yeah,

1007
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:17,400
it feels like part two is gonna be a lot

1008
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,960
more in depth content for him, where he seems like,

1009
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:22,480
you know, he's he's great to have in here as

1010
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:24,519
like a shades of great. Yeah, for the whole movie

1011
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:26,320
of different ways that people look at the world and

1012
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,000
all that. So yeah, I'm I and you know, I

1013
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:31,679
like him. I'm not traditionally big fan of him as

1014
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,599
an actor, but I do think he was good here

1015
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:35,480
for what he needed to do. I will say the

1016
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:37,719
accent sometimes I could not understand a few of the

1017
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,760
sentences he was saying, so I struggle that with subtitles

1018
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,199
would have helped me out here. But yeah, Taylor, I

1019
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:45,400
feel like you're atg fan number one. I feel like

1020
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,119
you haven't talked about him a whole lot. So are

1021
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:49,159
you were you jazzed by his performance here?

1022
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 4: I was really jazzed. I'm with you, guys.

1023
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,039
Speaker 7: Though there was some stuff I could not understand what

1024
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,480
he was saying, but for the most part, like that's

1025
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:56,039
that's fine.

1026
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 4: I fun you get the gist of it. Yeah, I

1027
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,239
I I love a lot of what he is in.

1028
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,639
Speaker 7: I am definitely present for and I think he's he's

1029
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:08,639
fantastic or since I saw kick asses like ATJ atj

1030
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:15,079
Early the Jet Fuel the jet, so when you see

1031
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:17,440
him in this movie and he's just dealing with all

1032
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,840
these tribulations, it's pretty crazy. And I loved getting the

1033
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,119
scene of them being out together in the woods and

1034
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,719
just doing all this like it's a coming of age,

1035
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,639
and I feel like you get these sprinkles of weird

1036
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:36,159
flashbacks of soldiers fighting and different wars and stuff like that,

1037
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:40,280
and it's just I think it's highlighting the again that

1038
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,840
that coming of age and that masculinity and that passing

1039
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,920
of the torch and this.

1040
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 4: Age old kind of like ritual tradition.

1041
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 7: Like when I was a little kid, I went out

1042
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,280
into the woods with my dad and would go out hunting,

1043
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,800
and it's just it's I feel like it's a very

1044
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,000
ancient crawlers looking for crawlers, Yeah, eating the worms and shit, so.

1045
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: Huge voices, even showing all those wars, it shows that

1046
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,960
even now, like it's an unthinkable situation, but these rage

1047
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,199
Mantra zombies they're still using those same protocols, right as

1048
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:16,880
far as like they have that lineup where they're old

1049
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,840
age showing black and white footage of the arrows, and

1050
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,440
then when they go to modern day they're doing the

1051
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,400
same type of attacks with the arrows in the formation, right.

1052
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,559
So it's to show like, Okay, there is stuff that

1053
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:27,960
no matter what happens in the world, good or bad,

1054
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:31,199
it's gonna stick through. Whether it's a method that you said,

1055
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:34,159
the hunting, certain war tactics, especially now, you'd be doing

1056
00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:36,480
lots of those old war tactics because you're not like

1057
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,039
the the sweden people or the French people. You don't

1058
00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:41,239
have assault rifles, and we actually.

1059
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 6: Go for the Sweden or the French people.

1060
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: And I love that we actually saw both him and

1061
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,039
the Sun run out of arrows in this It wasn't

1062
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:50,639
a legoless situation. Yeah, behind them, there was always stuff

1063
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:52,119
going on. It was like no and a night one,

1064
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:54,320
they're like we're out. We're like, we're just gonna have

1065
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,000
to get to shore the tie and just.

1066
00:44:56,159 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 5: Risky too because the blood, yeah, toxic in this world. Yeah,

1067
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,840
that's that's a good point because I was wondering what

1068
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,599
the heck those scenes were really meant to meant to

1069
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:07,559
be about. And I feel like there's another scene too

1070
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:08,920
that I was kind of confused about. Now I feel

1071
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,480
like they're connecting a bit in my head, which is

1072
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,039
when they're in that same field and she and the

1073
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:16,599
mom is looking out at that giant like angel statue

1074
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,719
and she's talking a lot about time travel and she's like, ah,

1075
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,559
it was like this hundreds of years ago when we

1076
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:23,519
were here, and it's like, what are you talking about?

1077
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:25,280
But I think that, yeah, there is kind of this

1078
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,360
connectivity of like this endless cycle to it. And obviously

1079
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,639
there's a bit of a cycle too of like the

1080
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:32,159
baby being named after the mom, who you know, was

1081
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:34,000
born like a couple of days after she died or

1082
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:36,440
a couple of days before she dies. So yeah, I

1083
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,239
just feel like there's definitely a lot of cyclical stuff

1084
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,000
going on here.

1085
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 7: Well, you get I was just say you get two,

1086
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:47,000
you get two journeys between the Spike and the dad

1087
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:48,519
and Spike and the mom, and you get one that

1088
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:50,760
is based in savagery, and you get one that's based

1089
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,519
and more like civility and like, uh like stillness, like civilization,

1090
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:58,239
that kind of thing. And I think those two, those

1091
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,559
two play a heavy part in this story because it's

1092
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:03,400
it's people that are trying to reclaim their civilization and

1093
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,880
in this town, and you got you have the outside

1094
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,280
world in the mainland, which is just savagery and killing

1095
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,400
and all this crazy shit. So there's a line between

1096
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,000
the two there.

1097
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: Well, and that's why, like when Dylan was talking about

1098
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,440
you know, Airti being like, oh souls has no mind.

1099
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,840
That's where you jump to the scene where you have

1100
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,000
the pregnant rage monster and the mother's intuition is to

1101
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:26,599
help it give birth to this Now it did because

1102
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:28,199
I was curious what was gonna happen next, if they're

1103
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:29,920
gonna give the baby back to her or what was

1104
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,039
gonna happen. Look like, the second that thing was born,

1105
00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:34,760
the monster is gonna go back into killing, but it's

1106
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,159
still there's some sort of giving life for even someone

1107
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:40,639
that's that far gone this rage monster. But then at

1108
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:43,760
the same time, uh, like we're just talking about with Erton,

1109
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,760
Johnson's probably looking at the mom being like, well, it's

1110
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,360
probably best at she because even the kid calls me

1111
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,239
all like, you're just are you waiting for her to

1112
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,199
die any kind of is right, Like I think he's

1113
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,719
probably there's nothing he can do for and she's getting

1114
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,119
worse and worse. But they've come to the same conclusion

1115
00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:00,920
because once the mom gets that confirmed the cancer, she's

1116
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:03,000
down to take her own life and kind of do

1117
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:05,559
eth in Asia, right, So that's where it's Again, they

1118
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:07,679
have very different mindsets when they went on the journey,

1119
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,880
but their conclusion kind of similar as far as if

1120
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,280
you got to put something down, you probably should for

1121
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,039
the best of it, right.

1122
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: So that's where it's.

1123
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:17,679
Speaker 1: You know, it's tough because I was really curious, like, oh,

1124
00:47:17,679 --> 00:47:20,000
after this adventure, I can't wait to see the scene

1125
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:22,559
between those two, but we don't. We're obviously never getting

1126
00:47:22,599 --> 00:47:25,079
that scene. So maybe with the sun at some point,

1127
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:29,519
but yeah, it's gonna be interesting what happens. And uh, yeah,

1128
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,679
we got pregnant rage babies or that again that I

1129
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,880
don't know if that baby's a carrier. Now they say

1130
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,960
it's just completely fine.

1131
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: What the deals.

1132
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: We talked about that again too, as far as okay,

1133
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,239
how does this thing continue?

1134
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: They're looking lot of them are looking pretty scared. We

1135
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:43,840
gotta calm.

1136
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: But I don't know what is going on with the

1137
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,559
big bloater ones, you know, because we have tons of

1138
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,159
them that are super skinny and it's probably like food

1139
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,039
is sparse. But then you have these ones that are

1140
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,679
quite large, so I feel like they would be eating

1141
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:55,039
a lot.

1142
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: That's what I understand.

1143
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 7: You're yeah, you're dealing with some that are skinny and

1144
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,800
starving and who knows, maybe like they break an ankle

1145
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,039
and they just they can't make it. They're laying in

1146
00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:05,920
the in the flower fields and they just can't do

1147
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:08,360
shit all. And then you've got other ones, which I

1148
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,960
think if you look at twenty eight weeks later and

1149
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,800
you got the dad in there, I think that's like

1150
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,599
an example of an alpha.

1151
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 4: And in this obviously it's years later.

1152
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 7: These alphas are like a step ahead of the curb

1153
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,079
on many many levels. And then they're talking about how

1154
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,599
the virus has steroids in it, so there's another little

1155
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:26,360
piece of the east egg. While they're so big and

1156
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,840
like heavy muscle and what on, big cog they got

1157
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,119
some fucking biagraa in there and then on top of theids.

1158
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:39,639
So when you're dealing with the big chubs that are

1159
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:43,760
just crawling on the ground there, I thought that was

1160
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,519
interesting because you're dealing with you got the male that

1161
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,360
they killed, then you got the female, and then you

1162
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,360
got the little baby one too, So it's like, okay,

1163
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,920
they're they're able to get pregnant because they're still humans.

1164
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 4: There are one hundred percent humans. They just are infected

1165
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:57,639
with a virus.

1166
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,280
Speaker 7: So they get pregnant and they give birth, and then

1167
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,280
the wold talk about the placenta is very interesting and that's.

1168
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 4: What the doctor's.

1169
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,039
Speaker 7: But again I'm not super well versed on on how

1170
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:13,440
the body is and whatnot though, but I do know, okay,

1171
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,079
with the placenta, you're dealing with an evolved human uh

1172
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:23,920
internal body part that has developed to help protect the

1173
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,480
baby from viruses and infections the mom might get. And

1174
00:49:28,519 --> 00:49:30,800
so it's evolved to this stage and that's not that's

1175
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,480
not just the movie saying that's a real thing.

1176
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: It protects the baby from infections.

1177
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 7: So I think, okay, at this point, this is their

1178
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,880
corporate hand the story, which I thought was really cool.

1179
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,760
So I'm willing to believe that the baby is not

1180
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,039
a carrier. But I would love it if they were

1181
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,079
to build off that a little bit and be like, Okay,

1182
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:46,719
this there is some immunity involved with this.

1183
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,159
Speaker 5: I feel like there could easily be like a cure

1184
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:53,920
embedded in that in that baby's like blood, you know,

1185
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:56,719
like I could see that being a connection, but I

1186
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,760
could also see it not being that, And I don't

1187
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,800
think i'd be disappointed.

1188
00:49:59,840 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: You.

1189
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:02,039
Speaker 5: I feel like it can just be a baby for

1190
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:03,559
the sake of being a baby.

1191
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's tough.

1192
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: Like, I we only got chapter one so far this trilogy,

1193
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,599
but I feel like, unlike the first two, less of

1194
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:13,679
the first one, I feel like the goal of this

1195
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,199
trilogy is not to find a cure to like to

1196
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,760
end it. Like I feel like it's just like, okay,

1197
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,800
this is like a three story in this world. You know,

1198
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,800
I still two things, like I'll walk with the Plaseta thing.

1199
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:27,400
This one's a hard like jump for me. Still, Like, yeah,

1200
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,760
I get the placent and does a lot of things,

1201
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,239
but this is like this feels like this is a

1202
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,519
nuke and then speaking of nukes, the other thing is, again,

1203
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:36,239
I'll never believe that the world would not nuke this place.

1204
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,519
They did set up that in the beginning. Okay, it's

1205
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:42,239
just still quarantine. It's by itself. They like even before

1206
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,159
the film they often mentioned like, oh yeah, the thing

1207
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:46,280
that happened in France, they just got rid of it

1208
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,159
right away, like they contained it, killed it, and it

1209
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:50,960
was done. That clearly was like Danny Boyle being like, yeah,

1210
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,679
we didn't put that in our movie.

1211
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 2: Cool shot, but like we're not going to France, so

1212
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:56,280
they contain that.

1213
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: So it's just again this area. So I still think,

1214
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,199
like I guess the human thing is you're letting them

1215
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,880
live their whole like shier life.

1216
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 2: But still I feel like everyone would be worried of

1217
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,880
like what I a boke like anything? Right, Like, I

1218
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,519
just don't.

1219
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,079
Speaker 3: Believe nowadays people would be swimming across that channel with

1220
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:14,760
their fucking YouTube yeah fling.

1221
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: No fucking way.

1222
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: No to me, there's no way the world we live

1223
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,800
in now, boys, honestly, this is a fake universe, but

1224
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,760
there's no way it would not be destroyed, destroyed, destroyed.

1225
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,599
Speaker 2: But you know, it's fine. I'll walk with them.

1226
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's definitely gonna be part of

1227
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,199
it where That's why when we first got they revealed

1228
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:31,960
that there was like a big fire out in the

1229
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,079
distance before we knew is the doctor. I was wondering to, Oh,

1230
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:37,360
are these creatures evolving and like they've invented fire and

1231
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,320
we're going through like the history of human kind here. Yeah,

1232
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,159
but I feel like that is part of what we're

1233
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:44,639
seeing here with these different types of like the alphas

1234
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,159
have evolved so that they can like catch these animals

1235
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:49,039
that like these deer and stuff that run really fast

1236
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:51,840
and catch them without you know, having weapons or anything.

1237
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:52,719
They just have to catch them.

1238
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 6: With their own two feet.

1239
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:56,159
Speaker 5: But like even the crawlers, like I couldn't tell the

1240
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:58,679
crawlers were because they're kind of bloated like a corpse

1241
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,440
or something. So I don't know. These ones like died

1242
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,559
and come back to life and obviously like you know,

1243
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,239
eating like worms and like crawling around the ground is

1244
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,880
like I guess that's maybe just a way of survival,

1245
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,360
Like it's using less energy because it's just crawling instead

1246
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,519
of using its whole body. But yeah, like we're seeing

1247
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:16,239
them kind of evolve in like a pretty short amount

1248
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:17,800
of time compared to how long it takes to actually

1249
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,599
evolve like in the in the real world Darwin style.

1250
00:52:20,679 --> 00:52:23,119
So yeah, I mean, who knows. Maybe they'll yeah get

1251
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:24,880
swimmers at some point and then they can make it

1252
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,199
out to the other parts of the world. But that

1253
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,719
might be twenty eight centuries later. I don't know how

1254
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:30,079
long that was.

1255
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: We won't see that one.

1256
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe maybe in a couple of centuries if they've

1257
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,559
come back to the series.

1258
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 3: Just getting back to the whole placenta thing. I I definitely.

1259
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,559
Speaker 5: That's gonna be only in this movie can we have

1260
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:45,360
that transition.

1261
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a thing like in this universe.

1262
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, that's a tough one to sell for me, honestly,

1263
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,400
because like, like so they're setting up that the infect

1264
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,920
it could just give birth and like grow their colony

1265
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:00,400
that way.

1266
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 6: Like is that what that means?

1267
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 4: I don't know. I would say, okay, like because.

1268
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: Like what happened, Jody Komer doesn't deliver that baby, the

1269
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,119
mom bursts, it gets crazy again, and then just eats

1270
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:11,119
her baby because the baby's not infected, Like I think

1271
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:11,960
the baby would.

1272
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: Become affected and then like yeah, grow to be infected, like.

1273
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 7: They would bite the baby and yeah, the baby, that child,

1274
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,840
I don't think it's gonna Again, we haven't seen at

1275
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,280
most we we've not seen enough of just what this

1276
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,000
their colony is doing. Of these infected we've seen them.

1277
00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:27,840
They're in the river, they're trying to grab fish, and

1278
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,719
they're trying to survive. And that's one of the things

1279
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:32,519
they were trying to highlight. Okay, how does something like

1280
00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:36,440
this move on from uh just that that scene where

1281
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,679
they all died out from starvation. Okay, well years ago

1282
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,960
by some have gotten smarter. You have the alphas that

1283
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,079
can kind of corral a few of them together and

1284
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:45,960
then get them into this river where okay, yeah, let's

1285
00:53:46,039 --> 00:53:48,400
just like collect fish and just start eating it. And

1286
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,920
then yeah, they're there's still living, breathing things. That's the

1287
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,719
thing that there's makes them separate from the zombies. They're

1288
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,400
not rotting corpses. Well, some of them are obviously rotting

1289
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,920
flesh for sure, but they're not like reanimated rotting corpses

1290
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,960
that are decaying and decaying. While some will die, the

1291
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,760
other ones that are still strong. There there's plenty of food,

1292
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,800
there's lots of deer when you got on alpha killing

1293
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,320
a deer for you and letting like takes the head

1294
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,920
and let's the rest of his posse like keep the thing.

1295
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,239
Then okay you have you have that kind of hierarchy.

1296
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,000
You got the food source. And so that Alpha is

1297
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:21,400
gonna you know, fuck who he wants or whatever, like

1298
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,519
no no hold backs or drawbacks.

1299
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:24,679
Speaker 4: They're having rage sex.

1300
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 5: So as Sunset Crossover, honestly, some of the shots were

1301
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:29,920
reminded me.

1302
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,559
Speaker 1: Of kudos to that man when he was running that

1303
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:38,360
train station. That cock was everwhere, that cock was. That's

1304
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,360
the biggest cock I've seen.

1305
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 5: The reason they got Jason Momoa to do that, how.

1306
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 7: Do you think they cast like we need a man

1307
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,119
with the biggest cock around or do they just say, okay, man,

1308
00:54:48,519 --> 00:54:49,679
here you strap this on.

1309
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna sound weird, but I don't

1310
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,559
know for sure. He could suffer from giantism.

1311
00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:57,039
Speaker 1: And the reason I know that's because the rest of

1312
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,360
the big show people had said that before, Like he

1313
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,800
says some audientism, but everyone's like, but his cock is

1314
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,599
fucking I had always heard about that, that.

1315
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:04,639
Speaker 2: His cock was massive.

1316
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: And this guy, this guy, this man in this movie

1317
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,639
to me, is not body builder big. He is like

1318
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,599
a different like he is an alpha love. So I

1319
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:15,400
do bet he'd been probably look.

1320
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 5: For movie magic, you know, like Gandalf's tall as fuck,

1321
00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:19,000
but like he's not actually right.

1322
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: No, I bet this guy, especially.

1323
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 4: iPhones iPhones making his cock.

1324
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: That I think he's like a really obsessive he's like

1325
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:28,519
it was.

1326
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: It was right there the whole audience too, especially there

1327
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,880
were some young girls in our crowd that you can

1328
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,840
just see them like looking around, like what's happening right here?

1329
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: Like I don't think they're expecting big nudity at that point.

1330
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: But no, I think he's like a Paul White under

1331
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,360
the giant, that he's someone that and not suffers from

1332
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,239
a giant people live on to be could be sixty

1333
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,440
eighty whatever. It's just like it is technical a disease, giantism.

1334
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,360
But all his features were very big and elaborate, like

1335
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,119
his his hands, everything about him.

1336
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: He was a massive guy. Like this is a guy

1337
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,679
like in real life, he is a guy.

1338
00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:01,119
Speaker 1: I realized you need like fucking twenty dudes to take down,

1339
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,079
like he's messing you up no matter what. One dart

1340
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,760
from doctor whatever, yeah, or one well play start.

1341
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:08,559
Speaker 5: Which you know Samson.

1342
00:56:08,599 --> 00:56:11,079
Speaker 1: Oh, Samson, that's how they took down the Big Show

1343
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:12,679
one time in wrestling. They shot him with the darn

1344
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:14,239
and shaved his head to embarrass him.

1345
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: So, and this guy was in Gladiator two he played

1346
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,840
us and he was also in Cradle the Hunter and

1347
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,360
he just played he just played Stuts.

1348
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,599
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, what's his name? Shout him out?

1349
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 6: Shouts out to Chee Lewis Perry.

1350
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: Was a superhero draft Man. That's the next Batman right there.

1351
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,800
You know, no one's fucking with that Batman. David Cornsan's

1352
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,199
gonna see him be like, oh my.

1353
00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 6: God, there's no pants.

1354
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the cod piece, No, the codpiece on that

1355
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,760
just massive. But uh, let's take an out of break

1356
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,360
and we'll be right back. And we are back.

1357
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,559
Speaker 1: Someone wanted to say before I forgot about it again

1358
00:56:54,599 --> 00:56:57,119
with the air Terry Johnson. Uh, in a weird way,

1359
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,280
he did spare that like younger blow or one, which

1360
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,320
I wasn't expecting because like he sees it the sights

1361
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,400
and it's certainly he doesn't do it.

1362
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,079
Speaker 2: So again, that's why I like this still show. There's

1363
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,760
maybe certain lines because that was even though it's a

1364
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,840
kid bloat or thing.

1365
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,599
Speaker 1: It's like it's still you know, rage effect, like it's

1366
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:15,599
still we're probably killing you for given the chance, right,

1367
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:15,960
and it.

1368
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,719
Speaker 4: Ran off, which is another interesting thing.

1369
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: Quick.

1370
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 7: Yes, there there's a few moments where they they emphasize

1371
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,360
that these things are again evolved, obviously what you see

1372
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,360
their different hierarchies in their classes. But when they're inside

1373
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,760
that building and he wants Spike to shoot and execute

1374
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,000
this one hanging there, and uh it it's it's the

1375
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:38,079
dad is basically saying like, oh, you know, these things

1376
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:39,880
don't have a soul, YadA ya dad. It cuts to

1377
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,320
the thing's face and it does a weird mouth kind

1378
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,559
of like gasping behind the bag, like you're almost like

1379
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:48,320
it is terrifying, but it's in a way of like, Okay,

1380
00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:51,599
I doubt that it understands what the dad's saying, but

1381
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:54,679
it almost it's like they implied that this thing could.

1382
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,599
Speaker 4: Detect the hostility. And you see the way that these.

1383
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 7: Things are watching them and the way that they've been

1384
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:03,199
react it's like they've hit a certain stage of civility

1385
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:04,000
in their own sense.

1386
00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:05,519
Speaker 1: Even the thoughy triest if I added that, right, you

1387
00:58:05,519 --> 00:58:07,880
can make an argument that airt Johnson's consoleate you gotta

1388
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,239
kill this thing on a kill saying that's when the

1389
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:11,840
things get worked up and once right back. And that's

1390
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,199
where it's like, I could believe it's almost something that

1391
00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:15,199
I'm not gonna say in.

1392
00:58:15,159 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: Three movies from now they're stand up speaking everything.

1393
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: But if it kind of evolves and gets even like you,

1394
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:24,039
there's like I don't want to say a tolerance because

1395
00:58:24,119 --> 00:58:26,159
I don't think someone could build a tolerance in a

1396
00:58:26,199 --> 00:58:28,400
sense right where it doesn't infect their mind that much

1397
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,039
and there has to be.

1398
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:32,079
Speaker 2: Some slight of humanity left because even then it felt

1399
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:34,639
like the birthing scene again, she was definitely gonna chow

1400
00:58:34,679 --> 00:58:36,320
that baby right away, but in that moment while she

1401
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,920
was given birth, it felt like there was still some

1402
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:41,840
humanity for her to still grab a hold of Jody

1403
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,280
Komer's hands for support and give birth the baby.

1404
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 5: That's we're powering through past the virus.

1405
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: So that's why there's still something in there with them,

1406
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,639
and that's why maybe when we started this in twenty

1407
00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:54,079
eight days later, that wasn't there, right. That was the

1408
00:58:54,199 --> 00:58:56,760
instant shot like, no matter what, you're just raised, there's

1409
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,719
nothing left. Few were now it's like even if there's

1410
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,800
like two percent, there's something something in there, you know,

1411
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:04,960
but I don't know. That's fascinating.

1412
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 7: On on the note of the alphas, the h like

1413
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,119
the when they first introduced the the initial one and

1414
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:18,760
he was just standing on the hillside and they.

1415
00:59:18,599 --> 00:59:20,079
Speaker 4: Were, oh, great shot.

1416
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:24,239
Speaker 7: They did this weird kind of sideways panoramic like skew

1417
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:27,039
where they looked like it was almost like three dimensional

1418
00:59:27,039 --> 00:59:29,960
emplacement where I was standing with them with the tree

1419
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,840
it was so cool and eerie. And then with the

1420
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,320
sunset and then just watching out the the from the

1421
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,119
loft of this house and it's just standing there so.

1422
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,119
Speaker 4: Fucking eerie and freaky.

1423
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 7: Yes, but yeah, just that scene one ups itself when

1424
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,639
you know, it felt like it was great, everything was good,

1425
00:59:46,679 --> 00:59:52,159
and they're running across the the beach courtay yeah, and

1426
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:53,519
then all you hear.

1427
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,639
Speaker 5: Is just the talkers.

1428
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:58,719
Speaker 4: Holy ship.

1429
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,559
Speaker 6: And I was on a loss from oh yeah, Hunter

1430
01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:03,079
running that.

1431
01:00:03,679 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: Was crazy, right.

1432
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 7: What he gets there and they like they they fucking

1433
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,719
spear him and he goes, oh Jesus.

1434
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 5: You have like full on Nebulas in the sky too.

1435
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,320
It makes it feel like a sci fi movie for

1436
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,079
a moment there, like we're in space, the reflection off

1437
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:20,039
the water and just like when they do those super

1438
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:21,840
zoom ooat shots and you just see like the puddles

1439
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,480
splashing going through like the different kind of checkpoints that

1440
01:00:25,519 --> 01:00:28,199
they have set up there. Yeah, that shot was I mean,

1441
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:30,400
almost every action sequence in this had me on the

1442
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,079
edge of my seat because I think what the first

1443
01:00:32,119 --> 01:00:35,079
two movies set up pretty well is that like anyone

1444
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:37,480
can die, and these movies like no one's safe, and yeah,

1445
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,639
maybe there's like interviews like oh yeah, this guy's in

1446
01:00:39,679 --> 01:00:41,880
the next movie, so you could have deduced that because

1447
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:44,159
we know there's like a direct sequel coming out, but

1448
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:45,400
I didn't really know any of that. So I'm like,

1449
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,599
any literally, any single one of these people could die

1450
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:49,920
at any moment, even the kid in this because very

1451
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,880
early on in this movie, like seventeen kids get slaughtered

1452
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,760
in room watching Teletubby. So yeah, it feels like no

1453
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,440
one's safe, and I think that's what adds to the

1454
01:00:57,639 --> 01:01:00,000
tension of this compared to other series where you feel

1455
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:02,320
you're like, oh, yeah, obviously these three have like plot

1456
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,880
armor and they're gonna make it through, but that's not

1457
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:04,639
necessarily the case.

1458
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:07,199
Speaker 2: Well, and even with the whole bridge thing.

1459
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:11,679
Speaker 1: It felt like I'm sure that's happened before, but I

1460
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,400
just didn't get the impression from everyone talking about the

1461
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,360
rules that oh, constantly these things like run up on us,

1462
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,760
we gotta fight, Like I know there's a gates. I'm

1463
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,840
sure it has happened, but this just felt like death

1464
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,039
con five of not only is one of these things

1465
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:26,360
running after you, but it is an alpha and they've

1466
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,199
said like, oh, this will take at least twelve arrows

1467
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:30,119
to kill it. Obviously was shooting it. They had to

1468
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:33,400
shoot like that big fire. You know, what are those

1469
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,280
called bas steels right like they have the Limniver. Yeah, Blissa,

1470
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,840
thank you, like a mini version of that. But that

1471
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,559
to me, like I don't know for sure, because I

1472
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:41,960
think there's a lot of great scenes this movie, but

1473
01:01:42,159 --> 01:01:42,559
right now I.

1474
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: Think for Golden I have that in my mind is

1475
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,480
like anominy.

1476
01:01:45,039 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: That just because it goes from that high to yeah

1477
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,000
we're going home to just looking back and that thing

1478
01:01:50,119 --> 01:01:52,400
is trucking. Like you said, Dylan, I love just the

1479
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,079
glimmering of the moonlight when you see it's just it's

1480
01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:57,039
so good. And again, I guarantee you someone could look

1481
01:01:57,079 --> 01:01:59,119
at that scene I'd be like, there's too much going

1482
01:01:59,159 --> 01:02:01,960
on there, like the glimm of the moonlight, the northern

1483
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,599
stars type of look like the big thing.

1484
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: Really, it's like it seems.

1485
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,159
Speaker 3: Like he's so close to them and they're like halfway

1486
01:02:09,239 --> 01:02:10,519
and I'm like, they're not making it.

1487
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:12,519
Speaker 5: Come on now, And then the lady of the gate

1488
01:02:12,719 --> 01:02:17,280
is really dragging her heels, which makes sense, you know.

1489
01:02:17,079 --> 01:02:19,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's great because that's where it's like, that's

1490
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:21,159
where it helps seeing those other movies because you know, oh,

1491
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:23,360
she's waiting for that twenty seconds because that's the peak

1492
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,440
of if they're gonna turn.

1493
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: It's ten to twenty and she's waiting and he's like,

1494
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:27,639
look at her eyes.

1495
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,679
Speaker 1: I was like, you know how it goes, but and

1496
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,599
what a great shot from that they fall on the

1497
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:35,039
ground to then it's just Anertaino Johnson fucking plaster, just

1498
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:38,320
like wait dead, Like my son's the best, Like just

1499
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,280
to show that for him, not that it wasn't a

1500
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,079
big deal, but.

1501
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: He's just already over where the sun. That is a traumatic.

1502
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: His life has changed in multitudes where Anato Johnson's like

1503
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,480
I'm gonna get drunk, I'm gonna fuck, I'm having a

1504
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,599
good time. But yeah, that was a horrifying scene. I

1505
01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:55,559
did want to ask though, and I don't know, like

1506
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:57,199
I said, if I'm on anything, because the some of

1507
01:02:57,239 --> 01:03:00,679
those visions, what do you guys take anything from anytime

1508
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:03,920
the alpha's It didn't happen so much in the second half.

1509
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,559
In the first half, the crows were moving wherever the

1510
01:03:07,559 --> 01:03:09,840
alpha was going, and that to me was curious.

1511
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,599
Speaker 5: It seemed like scouts spots.

1512
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: They were bats at first, right with the first okay.

1513
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:18,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then they were crows later on.

1514
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 7: But I thought with the bats that were introduced, I thought, okay,

1515
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,880
these bats, obviously animals can't get infected with this virus,

1516
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,119
but they can still spread it through blood transmission, and

1517
01:03:26,119 --> 01:03:27,320
so feeding.

1518
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 2: Is that how it started?

1519
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,079
Speaker 7: The monkeys they because they shared that similar kind of

1520
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:34,159
DNA to us, I guess is the context. But no

1521
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,920
animals have been infected. The crows aren't infected, nothing else.

1522
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,559
The deer aren't infected, So that's something they highlighted as well.

1523
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,880
So I thought for sure that these bats, if they're

1524
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,400
biting infected, that they're gonna have blood on their mouths.

1525
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,360
They're gonna go and bite humans. I thought they were

1526
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,920
gonna hoard of bats are gonna go to Holy Island

1527
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:49,840
and start biting people.

1528
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,599
Speaker 4: I'll be like, holy fuck, Like this is brutal.

1529
01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 6: I thought we were going into the Wizarding Realm.

1530
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 3: Honestly, I thought they were like, like the Alpha was

1531
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,360
sending them to just ran this village.

1532
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you send them, but I guess there

1533
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:04,400
could be something to it, unless they just say, ah,

1534
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:05,840
now we thought looked cool, But it.

1535
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 5: Just mean that could be how you get this virus

1536
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,360
to the mainland if they ever want to do that

1537
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,400
in a sequel.

1538
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,679
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, like just how it goes. But I just

1539
01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:16,800
thought it was strange in the first act that happened

1540
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,079
twice where there's an Alpha and there's things in the

1541
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:21,199
air around and make said it didn't really happen later

1542
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:23,760
on when they were like after ray fines and chase them,

1543
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,679
so that kind of got dropped.

1544
01:04:24,719 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: But that was a different Alpha as well. So maybe

1545
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,760
you could make a case that I don't know that

1546
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,559
Alpha was in tune with fucking nocturnal like flying animals.

1547
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:35,440
I don't know how that would be, but I thought

1548
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,239
it was interesting. Note, but I very much love the ALFA.

1549
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,800
Last week again, very video gamy. That felt like all

1550
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,079
of a sudden's like, okay, here's your bloto type, here's

1551
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,280
your quick day, and comes up with the bottom of

1552
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:45,800
the screen.

1553
01:04:46,119 --> 01:04:49,159
Speaker 7: Yes, man, I thought they were safe on their little

1554
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,159
bone Temple island. But when Samson's just charging cocking all

1555
01:04:53,199 --> 01:04:55,119
in there, it's like, holy fucking.

1556
01:04:55,239 --> 01:04:58,559
Speaker 3: Takes down a fucking skull with that thing, you see.

1557
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,119
Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing where we're talking about the humanity.

1558
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,199
I don't think Samson was there just to fuck everything up.

1559
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:05,800
He was there to get that baby.

1560
01:05:05,519 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 4: Right, That's how I took it.

1561
01:05:07,079 --> 01:05:09,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, which should not be the case if it's just

1562
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:11,679
they're completely because before ray Fin's pretty much like yeah,

1563
01:05:11,679 --> 01:05:13,800
they don't really come around him that much. He created

1564
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,360
that like rock bridge to like this, like so.

1565
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 6: She was carrying like the newborn on that bridge. I'm like,

1566
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,440
oh no, this is so dangerous.

1567
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,159
Speaker 2: Don't Eve get her hands way up there, like oh,

1568
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,360
I don't worry, but like to keep them out, And

1569
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,280
he's like, I can't get it. He made it sound

1570
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,639
like no, like they don't like really like he could

1571
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:31,239
not built this huge temple and all these kind of

1572
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:34,320
like a graveyard for these people. If it's always getting

1573
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,280
messed up, right, So that's where it's like, okay, and

1574
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,360
that's where I think you and the baby have to go.

1575
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,679
Uh but yeah, that's another interesting note of it. Won

1576
01:05:41,719 --> 01:05:42,199
that baby.

1577
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, even in the train, like, I don't

1578
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,840
have ever seen an infected react to another one of

1579
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,719
the infected, right being killed? Right, he picked it up,

1580
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,639
her up, acknowledged her, And that's I can't think of

1581
01:05:52,679 --> 01:05:53,679
it another time we saw that.

1582
01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 7: Right Yeah, no, yeah, that's the first. And you're gonna

1583
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,320
be You're probably gonna see Samson again in the charges.

1584
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:08,719
Speaker 5: Ready Taylor, Ready three? Oh yeah, glasses on quick quick shot.

1585
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,679
There's a sequence that maybe this could segue into another character,

1586
01:06:12,719 --> 01:06:17,440
but where our crew, their spike and the mom end

1587
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:21,079
up at a gas station. Man Chocolate Moose would have

1588
01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:30,559
been thrilled walking into that gas station showed out to

1589
01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:33,639
our top secret episode if you want to understand that.

1590
01:06:33,719 --> 01:06:36,079
But but yeah, I guess that could lead kind of

1591
01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:39,760
nicely into Eric, who's the one surviving navy. So we

1592
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,280
see early. I think this is a nice connection. We

1593
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,320
see early in the movie that like the boat cruising around,

1594
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,119
they're like, well, who is that? It's a navy And

1595
01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:47,440
then he's like, oh, yeah, we crashed on something. I

1596
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,119
think what they crashed on was like their little island bridge,

1597
01:06:50,199 --> 01:06:51,280
right that goes to the island.

1598
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:52,719
Speaker 6: That's what I assume. What think?

1599
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's what the boat must have smashed into.

1600
01:06:56,719 --> 01:06:57,039
Speaker 6: Uh.

1601
01:06:57,079 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 5: And then yeah, we get that sequence, which I love

1602
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,400
the set piece of that, like this canal or damn,

1603
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,559
I don't know exactly what it was, but like them

1604
01:07:04,599 --> 01:07:06,159
all jumping in there, one of them like breaks their

1605
01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:07,960
leg on the way down. Then all this were the

1606
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:10,400
infect that just kind of swarming in over top. And

1607
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,519
then obviously this in fact they don't have to enter

1608
01:07:12,599 --> 01:07:14,519
through that one place, they can just start toppling in

1609
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:18,400
from the random locations. I thought the intensity of that

1610
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,800
was great. And once again just like super incompetent army,

1611
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,480
then that like I have really bad technique, really bad tactics,

1612
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:28,119
not any form of teamwork. That seems like they've never

1613
01:07:28,159 --> 01:07:31,159
actually been in a combat sequence before, so they're really

1614
01:07:31,159 --> 01:07:33,480
out of their depths. But yeah, that kind of leads

1615
01:07:33,519 --> 01:07:36,039
us into getting Eric, who's in there for like maybe

1616
01:07:36,039 --> 01:07:38,840
a good twenty minutes or so. As a little side characters.

1617
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,559
Would you guys think of Eric?

1618
01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:43,599
Speaker 1: I was worried when he's introduced as a goal boy,

1619
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,480
this could be like because he was he's a mile

1620
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,280
a minute, he was joking, he was throwing out lots

1621
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,000
of stuff. I just wasn't sure. I was happy for

1622
01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:54,079
the most part of how he was used. I'm still

1623
01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:55,920
a little unsure on his ending there because it felt

1624
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,239
like he was kind of warming up to them and

1625
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,119
then he went on to like death con like I'm

1626
01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:02,039
gonna just as you right here. I do get it

1627
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:04,000
when he's like, oh, our things are to kill these people.

1628
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,000
But he even said like, once you're on the signe,

1629
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:08,000
you can't leave. So I just feel like, maybe you

1630
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:10,239
go with now the new customs or the people, because

1631
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,880
like this is your life now, dude, Like you are

1632
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,760
living with these people, You're you're not going back. But

1633
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,039
I thought there was some fun stuff killed in our theater,

1634
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:21,760
which I will mention was very packed, which was crazy.

1635
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,920
I think like packed them some more like the bigger

1636
01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:26,560
like Marvel and DC Star Wars. I guess we haven't

1637
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,600
seen stars maybe in fucking years, but like some of

1638
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,720
the bigger IP stuff, our theater was about seventy five

1639
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,039
percent packed. I was surprised, but he killed it so

1640
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,840
now it was fun and yeah it was a good

1641
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,520
little I think you talked about it there, but almost

1642
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,720
alluding to like twenty weeks later where some of those

1643
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,000
soldiers were kind of dumb too, and the same thing

1644
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,399
where he's talking like, oh, I could have been a

1645
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:47,119
delivery driver.

1646
01:08:47,239 --> 01:08:51,039
Speaker 2: I'm this like now just being a.

1647
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: Quarantine soldiers just like a job, and she's like, yeah,

1648
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,359
you're gonna go watch the island over there and just

1649
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:56,840
make sure nothing funky's going on, you know.

1650
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: So liked the.

1651
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 6: Character, Yeah, I was. I'm glad it was short lived.

1652
01:09:03,079 --> 01:09:04,079
I was pretty.

1653
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,520
Speaker 3: It was just like a dynamic where I'm like, I

1654
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,199
don't need this guy in the crew, you know, moving

1655
01:09:10,199 --> 01:09:13,399
forward with Spike and the mother, and it's like what

1656
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:14,840
would he have done when we got to the bone

1657
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,560
temple and stuff. It's just like, no, this is not

1658
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,439
what I what I wanted. I do agree. I think

1659
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,840
his like switch came a little bit quickly, but I

1660
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,119
guess it makes sense if he's just a trained soldier

1661
01:09:25,159 --> 01:09:27,600
and he just knows like all infected is a bad infected,

1662
01:09:28,079 --> 01:09:31,079
so you know, the only good bug is a dead

1663
01:09:31,119 --> 01:09:34,079
bug sort of mindset. I feel like he is just

1664
01:09:34,119 --> 01:09:39,239
that mentality, so it does make sense. The iPhone joke

1665
01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:40,039
definitely got me.

1666
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 6: He's like he's like, oh yeah, you got photos of this.

1667
01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:46,079
Speaker 2: I knew it was gonna be grown.

1668
01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 6: I knew it the second Oh yeah, no it was.

1669
01:09:50,199 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 3: We got quite funny. So that one did get me.

1670
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,319
But I don't know. I'm I'm happy the way it went,

1671
01:09:55,359 --> 01:09:59,760
but I was just I don't know, turn in my

1672
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,960
seat when they were just running through the gas and

1673
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,399
like they just didn't go down.

1674
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 6: Low like below the gas. Like I get it.

1675
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,159
Speaker 3: The mom was going crazy, but like she shouldn't have

1676
01:10:09,239 --> 01:10:10,119
lived like she should have.

1677
01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 6: She should have.

1678
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,520
Speaker 3: Dropped dead in like four seconds, honestly, like with that

1679
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,640
much density of like what was it Benzene just just

1680
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,720
running around, just choking on it, like.

1681
01:10:21,119 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 5: She's not juggling.

1682
01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:25,319
Speaker 1: She was even Like again, you can suspend your disbelief,

1683
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:27,520
but even if she's that far on the cancer, even

1684
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,399
some of those hikes would have probably done her in,

1685
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,039
you know, like when you when you were sick, like

1686
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:34,159
you can't even make it to the fucking bath, mean

1687
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:34,720
you know.

1688
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,399
Speaker 3: And yeah, like I was suspending, suspending your disbelief, like man,

1689
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,359
just the fact that baby didn't cry like once like no.

1690
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:43,319
Speaker 6: New born.

1691
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that never came up. I thought that was

1692
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,359
gonna be like, oh, the big thing, but they never

1693
01:10:49,399 --> 01:10:51,520
even the guy I thought, I thought that's why he

1694
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,880
wanted to kill them, because he's like, we can't get

1695
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:54,520
rid of that baby.

1696
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,359
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, because it's gonna bring noise, Like, no,

1697
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:57,760
I just kill all infected stuff.

1698
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 2: So no, great baby. But he didn't.

1699
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 4: He did say that.

1700
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,399
Speaker 7: He did say like it's a pouting baby or crying

1701
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,720
baby or whatever, because the baby was crying at the time.

1702
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 2: He did. But then he's like, if it's infected, we

1703
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,720
put it down. It's like, I get it.

1704
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 1: But at the same point, again, that baby had no

1705
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,279
milk either, so just going off water, which again in

1706
01:11:14,319 --> 01:11:17,520
real life, if a newborn does not have that protein,

1707
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,640
they're gonna be fucking losers.

1708
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 7: I said too, like the baby's only got a couple

1709
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,359
of days living off of water, and then like it

1710
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:24,000
needs milk.

1711
01:11:24,359 --> 01:11:26,159
Speaker 1: No, I know it could survive, but I mean, like,

1712
01:11:26,279 --> 01:11:27,680
I don't think it would be as calm as that

1713
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:32,119
that that child. That water would not be enough, especially

1714
01:11:32,199 --> 01:11:36,000
I'm gonna assume it's not getting the best nutrients from

1715
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,920
the rage monster mother. It's not like a mass like

1716
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,960
oh you get here's your guy, and here's what you eat,

1717
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,279
and here's what you do. This thing we saw it's

1718
01:11:45,319 --> 01:11:47,960
in the river like shaking about. It's like it's not

1719
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:49,920
going through a good time.

1720
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 2: So this baby, you know? And I guess do they

1721
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,520
have animals on the community that they can get milk from? Oh? Yeah,

1722
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:58,600
I just didn't see the cat.

1723
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 4: I thought they had some. I was on there and

1724
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,079
they got pigs. Maybe you can milk a pig.

1725
01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't know where are they getting stuff? Like, I

1726
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:06,640
guess where are they getting any of this stuff after

1727
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:07,319
twenty years?

1728
01:12:07,399 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 2: Right?

1729
01:12:09,279 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 5: I guess it's fully self sustaining at this point, with

1730
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,000
like some awe, like a few exceptions, but then that's

1731
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,520
what the tripe.

1732
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like to me, wine is like where they getting that?

1733
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,640
But I guess they're growing grapes and letting it fer

1734
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:22,399
men and all that stuff.

1735
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,279
Speaker 5: That would be crazy. I would not expect them to

1736
01:12:24,279 --> 01:12:24,840
have that problem.

1737
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: But there they were. A character was drinking wines. It's like, oh,

1738
01:12:29,119 --> 01:12:30,840
do they get stuff sent from.

1739
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,239
Speaker 5: I kind of took that as like, this is a

1740
01:12:32,359 --> 01:12:37,000
rare time when they do this particular celebration, and maybe

1741
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,359
they do come up with a lot of excuses to

1742
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:40,399
have these celebrations as much as possible, but it seemed

1743
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:42,039
like they kind of save it for the right moment

1744
01:12:42,039 --> 01:12:45,000
instead of just you know, busting out every night like that.

1745
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:47,039
I th that's why everyone was going so crazy, because

1746
01:12:47,079 --> 01:12:49,000
it's like, oh, this is our Yeah, maybe do this

1747
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,359
two or three times a year kind of thing.

1748
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 3: Captains covered top shelf stuff. I like the way that

1749
01:12:54,159 --> 01:12:56,800
we're setting up with the established village. In the beginning,

1750
01:12:57,039 --> 01:12:59,359
I thought there was gonna be like traders coming through

1751
01:12:59,399 --> 01:13:01,359
and stuff like that, and like other cities that they're

1752
01:13:01,359 --> 01:13:03,439
trading with. But we just never got that at all,

1753
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,279
which was I don't know, a little bit disappointed in

1754
01:13:06,359 --> 01:13:09,640
just to see it's true. Yeah, I don't think Jimmy

1755
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,560
is really strating with anyone. Just don't get that vibe.

1756
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,560
Speaker 5: But I don't know, you don't get those clothes you

1757
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,279
got very true.

1758
01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 6: Yeah they were swagged out, that's true.

1759
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 5: Where to go back to the placenta, No, back to

1760
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,600
back to Eric for a bit. I don't have much

1761
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,000
stand the carrier. I did like him in there. I

1762
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,920
think Kirkly you mentioned like he was in there for

1763
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,399
just the right amount of time. If you put too

1764
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,319
much more of him in there would have been like, Okay,

1765
01:13:34,319 --> 01:13:36,079
now we're dragging the movie down. But I think he

1766
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:38,159
was fun. I think just what's so great about this

1767
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,640
movie and the potential of this series is just getting

1768
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,680
different characters world views, and he definitely has a very

1769
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,479
war world view. And it's weird to like insert him

1770
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,199
kind of where they do, because I feel like he's

1771
01:13:48,399 --> 01:13:50,720
he's a bit of like an exposition machine. He's kind

1772
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,279
of explaining what the mainland is like and like what

1773
01:13:52,319 --> 01:13:54,079
a phone is, but it's like, as a viewer, we

1774
01:13:54,359 --> 01:13:55,880
know what a phone is, and then he and then

1775
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,640
the kid is kind of sort of explaining what the

1776
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,560
rules of this island aer like. But he also doesn't much,

1777
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,520
so he's not giving him much information, which maybe that's

1778
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,479
just kind of leading into how little they really know

1779
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,560
about it, and that's I don't know, telling in and

1780
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,479
of itself. But I thought he was fun to heaven

1781
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,399
there as kind of like a shithead, annoying army guy.

1782
01:14:12,399 --> 01:14:14,319
I thought he actually had like a bit more personality

1783
01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:16,359
than we normally get for those types, and especially compared

1784
01:14:16,399 --> 01:14:18,720
to the first movie, which had a ton of those types.

1785
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,439
And I consolutely think it was weird one of them

1786
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,199
right now, even though I watched that movie a month ago.

1787
01:14:23,279 --> 01:14:26,279
But yeaheah. I liked him for the short stint he hadn't.

1788
01:14:26,079 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 2: Here well, even the even Brendan Gleese and the Dan

1789
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,520
twenty twenty days there before, like the dramatics have happens

1790
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:33,159
with him at the end.

1791
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:36,039
Speaker 1: He's I think a pretty comedic relief character, right sure,

1792
01:14:36,199 --> 01:14:38,279
And I feel like this character is broad here for

1793
01:14:38,319 --> 01:14:41,640
this like fifteen to twenty minute arc because after him,

1794
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:42,079
you're just.

1795
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 2: Gonna get a lot of heavy stuff.

1796
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's why, Like, hey, let's let

1797
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,359
the gap like the pedal off the gas a little

1798
01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:50,840
bit here. Like let's like, especially two, you're dealing with

1799
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,800
Tody Comber, who's like going through a difficult situation.

1800
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,199
Speaker 2: It's like even the stuff where he's carrying her and then.

1801
01:14:57,039 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: She starts to walk there your mom can walk this

1802
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,239
whole time, like and the whole that stuff. Like, Yeah,

1803
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,479
I think the movie needed, like let's get a little

1804
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,840
levity because we're about to you know, give them on cancer.

1805
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,039
We're gonna give birth this baby, We're gonna kill the soldier,

1806
01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:11,760
We're gonna have air to Johnson lose everything. We're gonna

1807
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,920
have all this stuff go down. The Doctor's gonna be

1808
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,880
chased by Sam. Like it's just one beat after another

1809
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,800
of heavy, heavy, heavy stuff. So I think it works

1810
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,600
in that way, just be like, okay, let's have him

1811
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,079
have a couple of laughs, because this one's definitely twenty

1812
01:15:25,279 --> 01:15:26,239
eight weeks later.

1813
01:15:26,359 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: I don't think was that funny.

1814
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,159
Speaker 1: I think they tried because it's not Danny Boyle and

1815
01:15:30,199 --> 01:15:32,680
no Ascar and they are missing that. Twenty eight days

1816
01:15:33,319 --> 01:15:35,319
is funny sometimes the point where it just feels so

1817
01:15:35,359 --> 01:15:38,079
weird when you just get into these situations or just

1818
01:15:38,079 --> 01:15:39,720
stuff that happens, and it's supposed to be like a

1819
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,039
very dramatic movie, but at times it's almost slapsticky what's

1820
01:15:43,079 --> 01:15:45,159
going on? So I think that was kind of like

1821
01:15:45,159 --> 01:15:47,880
a good ode to the first one and be like, yeah,

1822
01:15:48,039 --> 01:15:50,680
remember that had some really weird stuff, Like even then,

1823
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:52,239
it was kind of funny that we found them at

1824
01:15:52,279 --> 01:15:55,479
Like I I was wondering it didn't turn out to be,

1825
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,079
but the way that building was shaped, I thought it

1826
01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:59,760
was gonna be that same building killing Murphy killed, like

1827
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,439
that child rage thing, because it looked like that same

1828
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,079
kind of like tee thing, but it wasn't because I

1829
01:16:05,119 --> 01:16:07,680
just saw like something burger and I remember him saying,

1830
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,239
you want burger, So I thought, oh, was that that?

1831
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 2: And I guess maybe someone could point off it is.

1832
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,720
But yeah, so I I enjoyed the laugh break.

1833
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 4: So yeah, Eric, I thought, Okay, a little too much

1834
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,279
of this, it could get a little bit of exhausting

1835
01:16:23,279 --> 01:16:24,880
and really pull you out of it. But what we

1836
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,319
got with this character I liked.

1837
01:16:26,359 --> 01:16:29,399
Speaker 7: I was laughing at the jokes, and I really really

1838
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,520
enjoyed his introduction and showing, okay, where the modern world

1839
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,760
is kind of at with things, and his viewpoint on

1840
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,920
everything on this island and the stigma and the stereotypes

1841
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,279
involved with it, because yeah, you can, like you guys said,

1842
01:16:43,319 --> 01:16:45,239
people will be going there with their their live streams

1843
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:45,760
and stuff like that.

1844
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 4: There'd be such a.

1845
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:52,359
Speaker 7: Crazy dynamic and the real world of people just there's

1846
01:16:52,399 --> 01:16:55,319
a fact that there's an island, like yeah, like not

1847
01:16:55,359 --> 01:16:57,840
just an island, but it's the fucking United Kingdom like

1848
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:02,159
that we've just disassociated the Yeah, like that's that's fucking huge.

1849
01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:03,840
And so for them just to be still be there,

1850
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,159
you'd have conspiracies, you have all these different things going on,

1851
01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:08,359
and so I think it's just funny how you have

1852
01:17:08,359 --> 01:17:10,119
the stigma he's talking about, Oh, you know, you guys

1853
01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:12,000
are inbreeding and all this kind of stuff, and there's

1854
01:17:12,039 --> 01:17:14,840
just this real negative association with this island.

1855
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,199
Speaker 4: And but if you get stuck there, you're on your own.

1856
01:17:17,239 --> 01:17:17,760
You're fucked.

1857
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:22,159
Speaker 7: And so him coming in here and talking shop and

1858
01:17:22,199 --> 01:17:25,840
not knowing the rules either, because there's no proper training,

1859
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,640
Like obviously the outbreak that happened in France was at

1860
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,359
the beginning of all of this, right, Like, now we're

1861
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,960
near thirty years later and we're dealing with a new

1862
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,760
generation of soldiers that don't know. These guys don't obviously

1863
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,159
have the discipline and they don't have much of the

1864
01:17:41,239 --> 01:17:43,640
experience to be dealing with the situation like this because

1865
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,319
there's no boots on the ground missions, there's no one

1866
01:17:46,399 --> 01:17:48,239
going in here doing anything. And so as soon as

1867
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:50,159
that gas station blows up, he's like, what happens?

1868
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 2: What doing it?

1869
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 7: Are more coming like what's going on? He doesn't know

1870
01:17:53,039 --> 01:17:56,000
the rules of or anything like that. They don't know

1871
01:17:56,039 --> 01:17:57,680
about the albums, they don't know about any of that,

1872
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,800
And so that's why again he's laughing at the idea

1873
01:18:00,079 --> 01:18:02,520
and Spike is telling him about alphas and stuff like

1874
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,079
that and just thinking like like it's calling it some

1875
01:18:05,119 --> 01:18:06,760
of their term vikings whatever.

1876
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, I liked it.

1877
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 5: I mean, even Eric like at one point he like

1878
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,279
just calls them zombies, and so I feel like, you know,

1879
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,800
the perspective he's probably coming in with is like thinking

1880
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,600
about what we see zombies often on TV and stuff,

1881
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,159
which is like just slow lumbering like brainless creatures. But

1882
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:24,199
obviously at twenty years is a long time and yeah,

1883
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:26,319
like it's been a long as time since we had

1884
01:18:26,319 --> 01:18:28,600
that mission from twenty eight weeks later and even then

1885
01:18:29,319 --> 01:18:31,439
all those people died right like pretty much that's all

1886
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,039
anyone's getting that information back of like here's what we

1887
01:18:34,199 --> 01:18:36,199
learned about this kind of thing. It's just like, I

1888
01:18:36,199 --> 01:18:37,960
guess we just kind of swooped out another rug because

1889
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,199
we don't know anything about it and it's dangerous as heck.

1890
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I swear they showed us some clips from

1891
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:44,960
that movie.

1892
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,159
Speaker 7: It did right from the end of the sniper's perspective

1893
01:18:47,159 --> 01:18:48,199
with the people running.

1894
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,119
Speaker 5: Out with the bows. Yeah, they're kind of switching back

1895
01:18:50,119 --> 01:18:51,880
and forth. That was interesting, which.

1896
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: I like because it's still like it's like I said,

1897
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,079
they kind of I won't say they wretcon the France thing,

1898
01:18:56,119 --> 01:18:58,199
but they've to me kind of recon like, hey, we're

1899
01:18:58,239 --> 01:18:59,239
gonna figure that out.

1900
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,359
Speaker 2: They've solved that. That's good. But I like that.

1901
01:19:01,399 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, it's a movie that they weren't exactly

1902
01:19:04,039 --> 01:19:05,880
a part of. I think they produced and obviously they

1903
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,800
shot the opening scene, but I still like it's not

1904
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,600
like one of those cases like yeah, but don't don't

1905
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,800
associate anything of that second one, Like okay, that was

1906
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,359
like a little venture there and they used some stuff

1907
01:19:15,399 --> 01:19:18,479
there and but yeah, I don't think anything hybody made

1908
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:18,720
it out?

1909
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,079
Speaker 5: When did when did the I actually missed that Paris

1910
01:19:21,159 --> 01:19:22,720
line to be honest, Like, but who said that or

1911
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:23,840
when was that in the movie?

1912
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,039
Speaker 1: Because I think it's when they're talking about the quarantine people,

1913
01:19:28,199 --> 01:19:30,760
And I could be inflating it with that. They said

1914
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,359
that in an interview like outside of the movie as well,

1915
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,680
that they did that happen. Yeah, that the Parist thing,

1916
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:41,000
like pretty much what happens. It sounds like, well, I

1917
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:43,520
think they they talked about it. I think they're gonna

1918
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,600
probably talk more about later. But when they're talking about

1919
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,239
the quarantine people and the soldiers from Paris, and they

1920
01:19:48,319 --> 01:19:50,560
say something like, oh, well they took care of it before,

1921
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:51,800
like they kind of allude that.

1922
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 7: And that was in the text too, write when it

1923
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,399
was like twenty years later they driven it off of

1924
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:57,720
the mainland Europe.

1925
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, thank you.

1926
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think they gave like that and then

1927
01:20:01,159 --> 01:20:03,279
like a sentence of like, oh, they've dealt with this before.

1928
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,319
Speaker 5: So I found it interesting that, like, you know, the

1929
01:20:05,399 --> 01:20:07,319
jump between the first movie and the second movie obviously

1930
01:20:07,359 --> 01:20:09,680
like half a year, this one twenty eight years. Yeah,

1931
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,119
the second movie had like a way more into like

1932
01:20:12,359 --> 01:20:14,359
had way more lines and that kind of Star Wars

1933
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,319
crawl at the beginning of this was like very quick,

1934
01:20:16,399 --> 01:20:18,439
but I feel like I kind of breeze past that line.

1935
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:19,920
But then when we get Edic, you know, I can't

1936
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,760
even buy backs that up because he's like talking about

1937
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,039
comes from Sweden. I'm like, Okay, I guess everyone else

1938
01:20:24,119 --> 01:20:26,199
is safe in the world. So I don't know, maybe

1939
01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:28,000
maybe that was like for idiots, maybe there's soo many

1940
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,439
people like me missing some less details early on as

1941
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,000
they throw him deeper in the movie to kind of

1942
01:20:32,079 --> 01:20:33,560
just reinforce like oh, Yeah. The rest of the world

1943
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,720
is safe, by the way, it's just just England.

1944
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 6: That guy got aft.

1945
01:20:37,119 --> 01:20:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know we're gonna talk about I just

1946
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,439
don't want to forget about it. Very much like that

1947
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,479
when the main movie is done, they did the twenty

1948
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:44,359
eight days later and then that got us to the ending.

1949
01:20:44,399 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 2: I love that.

1950
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,279
Speaker 1: That just kind of keeps happening in this franchise. So

1951
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,680
but very fun like tag there and whatnot.

1952
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,520
Speaker 2: So let's see anything else.

1953
01:20:54,039 --> 01:20:56,239
Speaker 5: We have an off sit, so many notes, but we're

1954
01:20:56,279 --> 01:20:57,880
already an how we're twenty in. I don't know how

1955
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,960
this rapid fire rapid firearm Okay. One one thing I

1956
01:21:01,039 --> 01:21:03,560
really like. I feel like several characters said the exact

1957
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,199
line well done, Spike his mom said at one point,

1958
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:09,039
at is saying it, the doctor's saying it. I forget

1959
01:21:09,039 --> 01:21:10,960
if Jimmy said it when he encountered him at the

1960
01:21:11,039 --> 01:21:13,000
very end, like at the hill when he's showing some

1961
01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:16,319
do like the first bow shop, but like exactly those words,

1962
01:21:16,359 --> 01:21:18,560
well done. I thought that was kind of funny.

1963
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 6: Good Lad too many times Good Lad you talked about this.

1964
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 5: Trev's like, I don't think we ever really see anyone

1965
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,079
turning in this movie, like I guess with a couple

1966
01:21:31,079 --> 01:21:33,399
of the army, like Eric's friends in the canal, you

1967
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,119
get like that that's kind of the most of it,

1968
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:36,920
which I feel like is.

1969
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 4: The beginning too, I guess, but that's the starting.

1970
01:21:39,079 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 2: I don't count the beginning. I don't kill Yeah, I don't.

1971
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,279
Speaker 1: I don't count the twenty days later because that's like, okay,

1972
01:21:44,279 --> 01:21:47,880
that's kind of in that time frame that we've covered before, right.

1973
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 5: But yeah, I just I thinel like that's such an

1974
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,479
iconic imagery of this series. It seems like so I'm

1975
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,039
kind of surprised they didn't kind of dig into that more.

1976
01:21:56,079 --> 01:21:57,279
But I don't know who the characters would have been

1977
01:21:57,279 --> 01:21:59,800
that would have done that. Two questions. One, I mention

1978
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,960
it like the the people in the in the town,

1979
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,479
like the old guy had like the mask. And then

1980
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,800
there was even like a weird quick shot when uh

1981
01:22:08,079 --> 01:22:10,000
Spike was freaking out or I forget I was a

1982
01:22:10,039 --> 01:22:12,199
dreamstick was something where they're they're like setting up for

1983
01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:14,439
the party and then like somewhere of the mask like

1984
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,079
pops up for like a frame and then they like

1985
01:22:16,119 --> 01:22:19,520
remove it, like we're going on with a mask. Does

1986
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,199
that mean anything like am I missing something there?

1987
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 2: I don't think it means anything, but I think it's

1988
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,119
gonna have to the way they emphasized it, So okay.

1989
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:29,159
Speaker 6: Very culty.

1990
01:22:29,119 --> 01:22:33,239
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and then what about the radio waves, Like

1991
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,159
you know, earlier on in the movie, we're getting a

1992
01:22:35,239 --> 01:22:38,039
lot of like just all sorts of audio thrown at us,

1993
01:22:38,279 --> 01:22:40,279
and one is like the staticky radio thing kind of

1994
01:22:40,279 --> 01:22:42,000
cutting it out, and like, I forget what that, lady,

1995
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,439
I don't keep saying something. That's when we're getting a

1996
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:45,840
lot of the shots of like the night shooting, the

1997
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,800
bows and stuff. But I also felt like I was

1998
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,960
maybe missing something of whether it's that a callback or

1999
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,039
was that something else.

2000
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,359
Speaker 4: Just for I don't know about a callback.

2001
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,079
Speaker 7: It's just it's something that needs a little bit more context,

2002
01:22:59,119 --> 01:23:00,520
or maybe it's up to repretation.

2003
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:01,399
Speaker 4: I really don't know.

2004
01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:04,359
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, m.

2005
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 5: I got more rapid Fires music. We talked about this

2006
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,800
a little bit, but yeah, once again very much bringing

2007
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,359
back some of those kind of trippy psychedelic vibes that

2008
01:23:14,399 --> 01:23:16,359
the first movie had, and then the second movie had

2009
01:23:16,359 --> 01:23:19,439
a lot of like kind of church hymns and like

2010
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,439
those kinds of sounds, and I feel like this movie

2011
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,720
kind of stitched between those two things, which was fun

2012
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,439
because I feel like, yeah, the second movie didn't have

2013
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,600
a ton of personality in the music department, but when

2014
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,840
you mix it with like the weird psychedelic stuff and

2015
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,960
then this movie just having like sound effects all over

2016
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,760
the place that we were just talking about some of them,

2017
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,119
I feel like, and like there's screaming sounds and like

2018
01:23:37,159 --> 01:23:40,279
breathy noises and like drips I feel like are really

2019
01:23:40,319 --> 01:23:42,439
accentuated in this which, like you know, go back to

2020
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:47,039
the first movie when yeah, like the dad gets infected

2021
01:23:47,119 --> 01:23:48,760
and you know it's because there's like some blood just

2022
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,880
dripping down from some that building up ahead when the

2023
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,640
guards get there. Like when I just hear dripping sounds

2024
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,439
in the series. Now I'm like on edge because I'm like,

2025
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,239
what exactly is dripping in this case, I think it

2026
01:23:58,279 --> 01:24:00,600
was just water when they're like in that church. But yeah,

2027
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,520
I just like the sound, like more than just the music.

2028
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,920
Like the soundscape that this movie makes is really, I

2029
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,840
feel like, exceptional, and it was cool. It was a

2030
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,039
kind of a blending of the two previous movies.

2031
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 2: No sound design spectacular, and yeah, I like that they

2032
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,479
brought back It's a very not if you were to

2033
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,960
hear these songs separately and be like, hey, this is

2034
01:24:20,039 --> 01:24:22,039
gonna be in a zombie type of movie, like, oh,

2035
01:24:22,079 --> 01:24:24,319
that doesn't really fit, but they make them fit in

2036
01:24:24,399 --> 01:24:26,640
this one. So the only thing I was hoping they

2037
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,239
brought back is they brought back kind of some of

2038
01:24:28,279 --> 01:24:29,239
the vibes of the music.

2039
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: I was hoping We're gonna get some really weird transitions.

2040
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,239
There was at one point where the mom and some

2041
01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:36,520
were walking. It was very far on the flower field

2042
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,840
and it looked like a very art pastel but not

2043
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,239
as hard as the original, and we didn't get that

2044
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,880
you know, mouth in the bottom frame. I was hoping, like, oh,

2045
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,800
could we get one really just fucking weird when they

2046
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,560
never did it. So I'm kind of hoping when Danny

2047
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,960
does number three that they do. Okay, that's for old

2048
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,039
time's sake, let's throw in something that like it kind

2049
01:24:54,039 --> 01:24:56,960
of looks bad, but it like it just has some

2050
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:01,000
you know, fun I don't know personality to it, but yeah,

2051
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,760
I really enjoyed the music and sound choices throughout all this,

2052
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,479
So mhm.

2053
01:25:06,359 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 5: H, I'll just keep going camera, can't. We've obviously talked

2054
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,319
a lot about the different shots and things like that.

2055
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:12,960
I mean, so many of the shots in this are

2056
01:25:13,399 --> 01:25:16,119
just like the perspective of them being watched, and that's

2057
01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:17,800
like every character in this But it's like you'll get

2058
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,000
a weird shot from like the underbrush or from like

2059
01:25:20,039 --> 01:25:21,800
some trees far away, and then we'll just cut it

2060
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,399
back to like a regular shot of them, like from

2061
01:25:23,399 --> 01:25:25,760
a regular perspective. But I feel like they mix that

2062
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,840
in there so well to just always make you a

2063
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,840
little bit on edge. I think the suspense in this

2064
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,000
movie is fantastic, and a lot of obscured angles or

2065
01:25:33,399 --> 01:25:35,920
just the camera has all sorts of effects thrown over

2066
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,840
top of it, but it doesn't feel like cheesy or

2067
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,840
cheaper movie maker, right, Like they just have very different

2068
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,079
vibes to their certain shots, doing like the weird odd

2069
01:25:43,079 --> 01:25:47,159
angles that the mostly the first movie had a little

2070
01:25:47,159 --> 01:25:48,600
bit of second movie too, So I really like some

2071
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:49,239
of that stuff.

2072
01:25:50,359 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 6: Ahead.

2073
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,319
Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna say we didn't even talk about because

2074
01:25:52,319 --> 01:25:54,640
we talked about nons boys, but those shots of we

2075
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,520
saw they use the iPhones was let's say I get

2076
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,239
shot with an arrow and then it gives like a

2077
01:25:59,319 --> 01:26:03,159
rapid filing all around you, and that's where it's like, okay,

2078
01:26:03,239 --> 01:26:06,000
so all these angles they have, like let's say, sixteen

2079
01:26:06,039 --> 01:26:08,119
different angles and they just edit them together all at

2080
01:26:08,119 --> 01:26:10,239
the same time for a rapid fire. And that's where

2081
01:26:10,279 --> 01:26:12,199
that felt like a video game when a character get

2082
01:26:12,279 --> 01:26:14,319
hit and it's almost like it stops and it's not

2083
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,560
slow motion but it looks like solow emotion but it's not.

2084
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,279
It's still moving, but it's because it's rapidly flipping. It's

2085
01:26:20,319 --> 01:26:22,960
such an off settling thing and like it feels like.

2086
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 2: When you have like dead eye or like vats and

2087
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:29,880
fall like Bethesda. Yeah, and that I loved it because

2088
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:31,840
it's like that's not stuff you that's that stuff you

2089
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,800
made see like a short or someone maybe like that's

2090
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,079
something in a movie where again, at times it's a

2091
01:26:36,159 --> 01:26:38,000
very dramatic scene that happens, I go like, oh, it

2092
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,079
does this fit here, But it's just so cool.

2093
01:26:40,079 --> 01:26:42,079
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, and it's so unique. It's like, yeah,

2094
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:44,239
do it. But yeah, it was cool to see. Like

2095
01:26:44,279 --> 01:26:46,239
I said, now, when we see the iPhone ring, it's like, oh,

2096
01:26:46,279 --> 01:26:49,079
we know exactly what those shots are. It's ending term

2097
01:26:49,079 --> 01:26:52,159
of actions hit and then it's seeing all these different

2098
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:53,119
angles where like if they.

2099
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:56,119
Speaker 2: Switch their head, so very cool method.

2100
01:26:56,279 --> 01:26:58,520
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's like putting your finger on a piano

2101
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,359
and just like rolling it down. It's like all these

2102
01:27:00,399 --> 01:27:03,600
like different notes just kind of crescendo together in a

2103
01:27:04,079 --> 01:27:07,079
way that you're not normally used to. I guess a

2104
01:27:07,119 --> 01:27:11,239
couple action sequences we maybe have glanced past a little bit,

2105
01:27:11,239 --> 01:27:14,720
but I once again, I love just that first sequence

2106
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,680
with the Alpha when he sends them after sends like

2107
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,760
the whole crew after Spike and I cannot remember ATJ's

2108
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,199
characters name in this movie, but anyway, those two characters

2109
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,359
and they make it to the house and then like

2110
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,199
just very slowly, you know, they keep stopping, take a

2111
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:31,199
couple of shots, and then they keep moving again. They

2112
01:27:31,239 --> 01:27:33,079
try this thing where like one shoots while the other

2113
01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:35,680
runs and then they switch. But like obviously they just

2114
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,880
aren't not super coordinated at that yet. And they also

2115
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,600
the soldiers suck at that later too. But when they

2116
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,760
get into the house, so fucking claustrophobic, such a tight

2117
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,319
space getting up the stairs, like I was always on

2118
01:27:47,319 --> 01:27:48,800
that edge to my seat. Once again feeling like these

2119
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,560
characters can die at any moment, which most movies don't

2120
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,439
have that vibe and then just like sneaking into the

2121
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,880
attic just barely, and then obviously when that was like

2122
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,840
comes crumbling down later and then it's like night and

2123
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,880
you know that like they they can't get across the

2124
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:02,520
water yet, which turns out they can by the time

2125
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,279
they get there. But man, like that that whole sequence

2126
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,920
it was so intense. I just love that they took

2127
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,479
a really tight space for that, rather than like obviously

2128
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,000
the endless openness of like these fields, but instead just

2129
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,239
like this really tiny house. It was super dramatic.

2130
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: And when the kid got up the attic but then

2131
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,239
fell out of that like onto, Tim Tron says, like,

2132
01:28:21,279 --> 01:28:22,199
oh my god.

2133
01:28:22,279 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: It's because I thought I didn't think the kid was done,

2134
01:28:25,039 --> 01:28:27,600
but like I could see Johnson die right here. Because

2135
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,159
it's like, we know we have Jody Coomber. We didn't

2136
01:28:30,159 --> 01:28:31,399
know how sick she was, but we know we have

2137
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,359
her as like a co lead. We know Killian's in

2138
01:28:33,399 --> 01:28:35,359
here somehow, so it's like I knew he was in

2139
01:28:35,399 --> 01:28:37,000
this movie, but it's like, oh, that is that how

2140
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,680
he gets set up? It's like, or I thought, is

2141
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,439
Danny Boyle lie and that's how you meet up? Is

2142
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,359
Killian saves or meets this kid, right, so that's the thing.

2143
01:28:44,359 --> 01:28:46,319
And even then, we did, like we keep telling, we

2144
01:28:46,359 --> 01:28:48,079
did lose a lead in this movie, lost the mom

2145
01:28:48,119 --> 01:28:50,800
who was like a co lead for half the movie. Right,

2146
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,079
so it's like still a main character is a one

2147
01:28:53,119 --> 01:28:55,039
and done. A great character, but a one and done.

2148
01:28:55,119 --> 01:28:57,000
And I'm not sure if it's any RAPI fire notes,

2149
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:58,239
but I have to bring up because I feel like

2150
01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:01,279
we talket on sections. We probably got distracted by the Alphas.

2151
01:29:01,319 --> 01:29:04,520
But Ray Findes is fucking incredible.

2152
01:29:04,039 --> 01:29:09,159
Speaker 2: This movie, Like, ok yeah, everything about that character I

2153
01:29:09,159 --> 01:29:11,760
would take maybe a movie, but a nice short, twenty

2154
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,560
five to three minute film. This setup of him, of

2155
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,760
how they met him, hundreds of bodies and he looks

2156
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,439
up just that wave, and I think in my mind

2157
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,560
while I'm watching, like okay, the big reveals he's doknay psycho,

2158
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,560
but like they sure set him up, Like yeah, I

2159
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,039
wouldn't talk to this guy either. It's just crazy.

2160
01:29:28,039 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 1: But all the stuff of like yeah he has the

2161
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:34,000
iodine all in his body, how quainty is, how knowledgeably

2162
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:35,760
he is not only in just like the medical field,

2163
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,079
but in life and everything he's been through. How you

2164
01:29:38,119 --> 01:29:40,600
know he'll find people burn them up, but he's doing

2165
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,800
it to tribute them. And you know, all these people

2166
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,319
have thoughts or they spoke like it's this thing where

2167
01:29:45,319 --> 01:29:47,359
it's just matter of the fact that hey, this person's dead.

2168
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,640
I gotta go burn their skull and wipe their skin off.

2169
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,600
But I'm doing that to immortalize them in a sense.

2170
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,840
And this character, I'm so glad he was alive because

2171
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,840
when he got picked up with the Alpha, I was like,

2172
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:58,840
don't you dare fucking preeder Or's spine rip him. I

2173
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,560
was like, don't you do it? Especially the second one

2174
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,159
is called Bone Temple. I imagine that's gonna be edit. Taron

2175
01:30:04,239 --> 01:30:07,279
Johnson's first stop in the second movie is going to

2176
01:30:07,399 --> 01:30:10,239
the doctor because he would have some info. But I

2177
01:30:10,279 --> 01:30:12,239
was like, man, and I so badly want to see

2178
01:30:12,279 --> 01:30:16,000
him and Killian Murphy interact. Like this character one of

2179
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,720
my favorite characters this year. Even this decads Fey, it's

2180
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,159
just like and he's not in the mood that much.

2181
01:30:20,199 --> 01:30:23,359
But no notes like negative notes for Ray Fryan's just

2182
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:27,399
home run Ted Ted loved everything about the character. Writing

2183
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,560
so good and yeah, very emotional and great beings.

2184
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do such a good job and building up

2185
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,880
to like he is going to be a whack job,

2186
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,960
but like he's just like a little like philosopher when

2187
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,359
when Spike meets him, like he teaches him Memento Maury

2188
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,920
and just like all this like really like he doesn't

2189
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,720
seem like he is like trying to get something out

2190
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,159
of Spike. Like he just like, actually, well, yeah you're here,

2191
01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:55,880
how can I help you? And like just being open

2192
01:30:55,880 --> 01:31:00,000
to like accepting like even having them there. And yeah,

2193
01:31:00,039 --> 01:31:04,000
he's he's something of just like a just like a

2194
01:31:04,079 --> 01:31:06,920
like a weird version of like a like just a

2195
01:31:07,039 --> 01:31:08,119
chill Buddhist man.

2196
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:09,199
Speaker 2: He's still.

2197
01:31:11,079 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 6: That's what I mean.

2198
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, yeah, he's.

2199
01:31:13,319 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 6: Definitely got a couple of screws loose.

2200
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,520
Speaker 3: The fact that like I don't know, I couldn't help,

2201
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,039
but just it was really like emotional sequence, but I

2202
01:31:20,119 --> 01:31:23,840
like actually just chuckled when like, uh, Spike is just

2203
01:31:24,239 --> 01:31:27,520
he's like morphine realizing that he's loses mom and Ray

2204
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,680
finds like here we go go find a good place

2205
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:31,800
for her, and it's just like her perfectly clean skull.

2206
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,920
It's just like Okay, I guess like that's goodbye. She's

2207
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:35,800
completely gone.

2208
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 6: Now.

2209
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 5: It's just like a polished skull.

2210
01:31:40,399 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 3: Uh, it's just like a like wow, Okay, that really

2211
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,079
just happened. And even when he's doing it to Eric

2212
01:31:46,279 --> 01:31:48,439
and like he you know, he throws him in the

2213
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,359
roaster and the fucking trigger grill smoker gets them all

2214
01:31:51,359 --> 01:31:53,399
seasoned nice and then pulls him out and he's just

2215
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,199
like rubbing like brain goo off of the skull. It's

2216
01:31:56,239 --> 01:32:00,359
like going out off into like into the river that

2217
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,720
Like is that just where Jody Kolemer was like sipping water?

2218
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,199
Speaker 5: Like who else is just baby drinking brain juice?

2219
01:32:06,279 --> 01:32:07,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2220
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,319
Speaker 3: Maybe that that helps with the lack of milk. You know,

2221
01:32:10,359 --> 01:32:14,239
the brain juice has some nutrients in there. But yeah,

2222
01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:17,960
I really wanted to just know more about I think

2223
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,119
what is going on with the bone temple and stuff

2224
01:32:20,159 --> 01:32:23,680
like that. And like I guess, yeah, like you said, Travis,

2225
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,720
like he is just doing it to honor these people,

2226
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:27,840
but like I kind of hope there's more than that.

2227
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:29,800
Like I don't know, it just it just seems like

2228
01:32:30,079 --> 01:32:33,119
such a bizarre thing to do that, Like he's just

2229
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:34,319
living on his own.

2230
01:32:34,319 --> 01:32:36,039
Speaker 2: But what else would you do for me?

2231
01:32:36,079 --> 01:32:38,039
Speaker 1: I guess it's like the cancer thing where it's such

2232
01:32:38,079 --> 01:32:41,880
like a simple answer, but I think the Bone Tone

2233
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,760
could be, like it said, the point of some stories

2234
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,239
popping off, like a location that they got to get to.

2235
01:32:47,319 --> 01:32:49,279
But I don't think it's gonna be, you know, where

2236
01:32:49,319 --> 01:32:51,960
the crows are reciding or anything. But it's like, what

2237
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:53,359
else would you do if, like no one wants to

2238
01:32:53,399 --> 01:32:55,960
talk to you because you're this fucking weird doctor guy

2239
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:57,479
and he cause.

2240
01:32:57,279 --> 01:32:59,520
Speaker 6: You're doing that, you're doing that?

2241
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just I guess that's what he lives

2242
01:33:03,039 --> 01:33:05,600
where he's given these people, you know, some sort of

2243
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:11,119
I don't know, yeah, an homage to the lies that

2244
01:33:11,279 --> 01:33:14,760
you know, people did lose for this terrible thing that's

2245
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,479
going on. So but the second movie is called The

2246
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:21,399
Bone Temple, so it does have to have I imagined something.

2247
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they just suck it up, maybe just messes that

2248
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:24,840
whole thing up. I don't know.

2249
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,199
Speaker 3: I think knowing that it's called the Bone Temple like

2250
01:33:27,359 --> 01:33:29,560
made me think that of Like, okay, let's get into

2251
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:30,560
the nitty gritty.

2252
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 5: Here.

2253
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 3: We have Ray Fines, who's like killing his performance. He's

2254
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,039
looking orange, is a fucking orange and like.

2255
01:33:36,319 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 6: I love this.

2256
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 3: He's all the dialogue is really good. I like his

2257
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,880
dynamic with Spike and then yeah, like he's like yeah.

2258
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,279
Then when Alpha comes and grabs his spine, I'm like,

2259
01:33:46,359 --> 01:33:50,680
holy fuck, please don't kill his for you, and it's not.

2260
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,520
And then he's like yeah, see you next time and

2261
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:53,960
just sends him off on his journey. And that's where

2262
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,600
I'm like, really, okay, Yeah, that's more set up for

2263
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,159
the next film. And it just seemed like because we

2264
01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:03,359
had consecutive moments like that, whether it's with you know,

2265
01:34:03,399 --> 01:34:05,600
we're gonna get to the Jimmy stuff, but like even

2266
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,439
Samson like I want to know more about the fucking

2267
01:34:09,239 --> 01:34:12,000
the the infected and like like what the hierarchy is Like,

2268
01:34:12,079 --> 01:34:13,920
is it just these little out like there's just a

2269
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,439
couple of alphas out there, they just have their own

2270
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,560
little cruise or like are they actually forming like a

2271
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:23,640
village or something. And earlier on when they're camping out

2272
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,920
Aaron til Johnson and Spike and they see the fire,

2273
01:34:27,079 --> 01:34:29,119
like I was hoping that that was actually infected because

2274
01:34:29,159 --> 01:34:30,920
I'm like, let's get into it, like we were already

2275
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,840
getting u what was probably my favorite sequel, Like my

2276
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,920
favorite shot in the entire movie is is honestly when uh,

2277
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,800
like I was alluding to in the spoiler free section

2278
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:41,840
when they're when they're going on their mission and you

2279
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,119
just have that like chant I don't even know what

2280
01:34:44,119 --> 01:34:45,960
the fucking words were, but like it was in the

2281
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,640
trailer and it just splicing in like the red scenes

2282
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,840
of like being infected and their glowing eyes.

2283
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,039
Speaker 5: Like those shots were crazy.

2284
01:34:52,079 --> 01:34:53,399
Speaker 6: I'm getting just.

2285
01:34:53,359 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 3: Thinking very yeah, very outlast and like just like I said,

2286
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,239
like very like the Witch is what it reminded me of,

2287
01:34:59,359 --> 01:35:02,359
Just this like dish like activity in the deep woods,

2288
01:35:02,359 --> 01:35:05,199
and I wanted to get into that and we just

2289
01:35:05,279 --> 01:35:07,359
never did. So I think it was just like multiple

2290
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:11,800
in my mind build up for Bone Temple stuff, and

2291
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,680
I mean it got me excited. I am definitely ready

2292
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,760
to get there, but I couldn't help feel wanting more.

2293
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,520
But I'm just a glutton. I just I just want

2294
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,479
all of it right now. I could have doubled back

2295
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,640
to back, you know, twenty years later into the Bone Temple.

2296
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:25,079
Speaker 6: Let's go.

2297
01:35:25,159 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I wonder how we'd feel about this character

2298
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,039
in that sequence. In general, we didn't know the title

2299
01:35:31,039 --> 01:35:33,000
of the second one, right, Like I think if I'm

2300
01:35:33,039 --> 01:35:35,199
coming out of this without knowing that title, I think

2301
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:36,800
we all thought, oh it was that was a cool

2302
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:38,600
spot that we went to. Okay, what's I wonder what

2303
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:39,960
they'll do in the next moment. Now it's like, okay,

2304
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:41,520
we're gonna go back there. For some reason, I think

2305
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,239
we said tribes makes a lot of sense of obviously

2306
01:35:44,279 --> 01:35:47,319
his kid was talking about going to see the doctor

2307
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,520
and them's not there anymore, so that too. That would

2308
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:51,800
be the next spot.

2309
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 2: He name drops in the not Remember, he says, I

2310
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,520
met the doctrine, he's not insane, So same thing of

2311
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,560
like and I actually don't even I think they put

2312
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,720
two and two together. I don't actually call in the

2313
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,279
note of he said that the mom was dead. I

2314
01:36:03,279 --> 01:36:05,680
don't know if he said that. I'm sure Eric to

2315
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,319
Johnson would infer that with everything that's going on, but

2316
01:36:08,359 --> 01:36:10,640
I don't. I don't remember narration of like, oh she

2317
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:11,640
had cancer and this and that.

2318
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,359
Speaker 1: I guess Aaron Tillier Johnson kind of already knew that, right,

2319
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,159
So maybe again he didn't have to say it, But

2320
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:17,600
I just think that would be there.

2321
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 5: Feels like a detail to put in there every year.

2322
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,359
Speaker 2: I personally was, you know, but yeah.

2323
01:36:23,279 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what I last thing, because you guys

2324
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:28,520
mentioned most of the stuff, But yeah, I think one

2325
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,199
thing I really liked about the Doctor is just how

2326
01:36:31,279 --> 01:36:33,920
dramatic he was, Like, so much of this feels like

2327
01:36:34,079 --> 01:36:36,600
a theater performance to an extent, and I think it's

2328
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,399
probably because he's just been chilling here on his own

2329
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,840
for so long that he's just kind of been thinking

2330
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,239
about like the things he wants to say when he

2331
01:36:43,279 --> 01:36:45,439
finally does meet someone. Obviously he did mention as much.

2332
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,600
He's like, I've been waiting thirteen years if someone asked

2333
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,159
me this, and he's like, hey, now it's my time, Shinea,

2334
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:51,880
I don't have the que cards. I gotta get this right.

2335
01:36:52,039 --> 01:36:54,119
But he's like just such a confident character. He just

2336
01:36:54,199 --> 01:36:57,079
nails it. He's speaking in these yeah this dead language,

2337
01:36:57,079 --> 01:36:59,760
but it sounds beautiful. He's like just seems like he's

2338
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:03,079
totally enlightened and totally at peace with the world and

2339
01:37:03,079 --> 01:37:05,039
where it's at, and he's like found a way to

2340
01:37:05,239 --> 01:37:08,520
live and thrive, which is totally different than like most

2341
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,439
people who would yeah, just try and find like a

2342
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,079
piece of shelter, build like a big ass wall and

2343
01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:15,760
just like live. But he's like trying to do something

2344
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,359
very different, and I love how not precious he is

2345
01:37:18,359 --> 01:37:20,159
about it too. Like, yeah, a strong gust of wind,

2346
01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:22,800
we'll knock over half those towers. But he says that,

2347
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,479
he's like, yeah, the you know, this is how it is,

2348
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,960
but like, you know, the elements are constantly like changing

2349
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,079
things and can knock some of this up. But that's okay,

2350
01:37:30,119 --> 01:37:32,039
it doesn't matter. It doesn't have to be final. You know,

2351
01:37:32,079 --> 01:37:34,640
we put to this stuff here, but you know death,

2352
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,600
you know it comes for all of us at some point.

2353
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:38,720
And the same thing with like these monuments too, like

2354
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,600
they don't have to be any more permanent than like

2355
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,159
a human life. And so yeah, I just think he

2356
01:37:42,199 --> 01:37:45,279
had such a weird ass worldview. He obviously becovered on

2357
01:37:45,319 --> 01:37:48,760
the iodine and looking super weird and freaky. I'm just like, yeah,

2358
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,720
that once again that confidence with Samson, right to get

2359
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,079
to shoot him, but then to walk right up to

2360
01:37:54,119 --> 01:37:56,079
his face and like, eyeball, how do you do like

2361
01:37:56,119 --> 01:37:59,279
this guy who's murdered probably hundreds of people, But you know,

2362
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:03,239
he's just perfectly confident because he is something of a scientist, right,

2363
01:38:03,239 --> 01:38:06,319
Like he's got this down to like a perfect ritual

2364
01:38:06,359 --> 01:38:08,399
at this point. So and that's just such a weird,

2365
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,319
unique perspective to have in a world like this. So

2366
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,520
whether or not he's just like a trip along the

2367
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:14,760
way for atj in the next movie or if we

2368
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,760
go deeper into this character, I'm super down for whatever

2369
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:21,560
we get next for Ray Fines in this Bone Temple movie.

2370
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just refreshing because it kind of goes

2371
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,359
back to again not to shit on that movie. I

2372
01:38:26,359 --> 01:38:28,560
don't think I failed it, but like twenty weeks later,

2373
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,600
didn't really have this in twenty days later they kind

2374
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,560
of talked about that with the father and the daughter

2375
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,079
and Killie Murphy brings up but like, oh, having somebody

2376
01:38:36,319 --> 01:38:39,760
and those like hit on moments of okay, we have

2377
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,119
life here. What we're like, what are the things we

2378
01:38:42,159 --> 01:38:45,359
can do to enjoy? And that's you know, finding yourselves

2379
01:38:45,399 --> 01:38:47,560
with other people. But then Ray finds is the end

2380
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,119
of that? I like, well, there's always the end of

2381
01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:51,560
that journey. But you still got to just still appreciate

2382
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:53,319
life while you have it, even if it's all this

2383
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:55,640
you know, weird stuff going on.

2384
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,119
Speaker 2: You still got to find, you know, whatever good there

2385
01:38:59,159 --> 01:38:59,600
can be.

2386
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 1: And then all see, you know, layer Spike has those

2387
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,560
flashbacks of his mom, So I like that there is

2388
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,840
a character that's trying to push that forward of this

2389
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,359
world is you're literally in a bone temple that is

2390
01:39:08,399 --> 01:39:10,399
surrounded by hundreds of dead bodies.

2391
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:14,039
Speaker 2: But hey, try to try to sell but he can.

2392
01:39:14,239 --> 01:39:16,359
Speaker 5: But he's not even coming across as like a preacher either,

2393
01:39:16,359 --> 01:39:18,199
which I think is so important about it. He's just

2394
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:22,399
sharing his worldview, and you know, he keeps it super honest,

2395
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,119
like obviously when the kids like, hey, how's my mom doing,

2396
01:39:25,159 --> 01:39:28,560
Shena live, No, she's she's gonna die toun like, you know,

2397
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,960
he doesn't sugarcoat anything. He just tells it like it is,

2398
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:36,079
which is h which is great. Yeah, yeah, I'm ready

2399
01:39:36,119 --> 01:39:38,640
to talk to Jimmy if we're if we're in Jimmy town.

2400
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 1: So as usual, well we'll take our last ad break

2401
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,439
because we'll do Jimmy and then final thoughts ratings like

2402
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,359
a Jess will be right back and we are backs.

2403
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,560
Speaker 2: Let's talk about mister Jimmy here.

2404
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: So in the you know, it's tradition and now I'm

2405
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,520
I didn't really think about this, but now it's happened

2406
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:56,000
three times.

2407
01:39:56,039 --> 01:39:59,239
Speaker 2: I hope five. I guess where we're at. Four and five?

2408
01:39:59,399 --> 01:39:59,880
Same thing.

2409
01:40:00,119 --> 01:40:02,640
Speaker 1: We need to make sure the twenty eight whatever series

2410
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,800
has a bang or opening first one we debated like

2411
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:07,399
how much we like to run now but still set

2412
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:10,359
the stage of fucking crazy monkey. You know, that's it's

2413
01:40:10,359 --> 01:40:13,439
at least memorable. Of that second one. You had the

2414
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,760
whole you know, the dad leaving his wife or the

2415
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,600
bruin kid and getting on the boat and going off

2416
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:22,039
that way. And now this one man shout out to

2417
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,439
those at least there's two of them, of the younger

2418
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,079
girl actresses, because a lot of those kids like, hey,

2419
01:40:28,079 --> 01:40:31,800
look scared, cry. There's a difference of you know, act

2420
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:33,680
like that. And there's two girls that were to the

2421
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:37,399
right up in front legitimately looked unsettled, like, man, this

2422
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:39,479
is messed up. Because I was like, oh, is this

2423
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:41,560
the beginning of it? They're gonna hear, but no, this

2424
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:43,840
is clearly they know something's wrong. Like we talked about,

2425
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:47,119
they're watching teletuppies and man, they just look so fair.

2426
01:40:47,159 --> 01:40:48,399
They throw a kid and they're like, hey, you know,

2427
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,279
like just stay in here, don't do anything. And yeah,

2428
01:40:51,279 --> 01:40:54,439
the opening scene is rage. Monsters busted in there. Jimmy

2429
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:56,159
does get away, but the rest of those kids and

2430
01:40:56,359 --> 01:41:00,319
the youths just get destroyed, and you see Bleve like

2431
01:41:00,319 --> 01:41:02,760
a savage way to start. When that was open like

2432
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,399
okay we are we are when you're killing off kids,

2433
01:41:05,399 --> 01:41:07,399
and they opening like, okay, we are in for it,

2434
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,159
and uh yeah we got Jimmy ran away, which I

2435
01:41:10,199 --> 01:41:12,359
was wrong with my prediction. I thought that priest was

2436
01:41:12,399 --> 01:41:14,520
gonna be the priest that killing Murphy bumped into the

2437
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,479
first one. I thought they're gonna show us how that

2438
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:20,600
priest became you know, uh whatever, rage monster. But no,

2439
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:23,079
he's very Hey, this is Judgment Day, this is what's

2440
01:41:23,119 --> 01:41:26,640
been happening. You know, son, you know this will help

2441
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:29,000
you lead the way, gives Jimmy his cross, and Jimmy,

2442
01:41:29,039 --> 01:41:31,560
heis a little you know, great or something. He runs

2443
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,920
away and we don't see him again. I'm like, who

2444
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,279
is Jimmy? Like where's it gonna be? And then lo

2445
01:41:37,399 --> 01:41:41,520
and behold this very Danny boyle out of nowhere. Which

2446
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,279
again I've heard so many things about this guy for years,

2447
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:46,600
and now in the last year I've watched Eden Lake.

2448
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,880
He was amazing in Sinners and now Jack O'Connell is

2449
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,479
because I'd heard he was in this. But now he's

2450
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,640
gonna be the villain of part two, I would imagine.

2451
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,640
And he has a gang of people that got track

2452
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,920
suits and jewelry, and as Spike, because we didn't.

2453
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,319
Speaker 2: Talk, Spike has sold his dad like I'm not coming back.

2454
01:42:02,319 --> 01:42:03,359
I'll be back at some point.

2455
01:42:03,399 --> 01:42:05,079
Speaker 1: He's just gonna go off on his own walk the

2456
01:42:05,119 --> 01:42:07,359
earth kills a couple of rage monsters, but a bunch

2457
01:42:07,399 --> 01:42:09,000
are coming to say, oh you mind if we help you,

2458
01:42:09,039 --> 01:42:12,560
and they're doing backfoot fights. They're just they're looking like

2459
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,479
Marvel m Sue character. They look like Daredevil in the

2460
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,960
twenty eight years Later universe, and they shaken.

2461
01:42:19,279 --> 01:42:21,520
Speaker 6: They just came out of the trees exactly.

2462
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 2: So Jimmy shakes hand with Spike and he said, oh,

2463
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:25,279
I think we would be friends. That's they zoomed on

2464
01:42:25,319 --> 01:42:27,800
the Spike the cross and oh it's that same kid.

2465
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:32,039
So clearly lots has happened. So yeah, what do we

2466
01:42:32,039 --> 01:42:35,840
think about this ending and the reveal who Jimmy is, Well.

2467
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,159
Speaker 5: I'll throw one quick thing, and with the opening sequence

2468
01:42:38,319 --> 01:42:41,760
is that like Jimmy gets cornered hard, he's up like

2469
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,640
in the staircase, and then like up the stairs there's

2470
01:42:45,159 --> 01:42:47,199
rage monster. Down the stairs, there's the lady who just

2471
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,199
got chewed up his mom presumably, and then like other

2472
01:42:50,319 --> 01:42:52,239
rage monsters. I really wanted to see how he got

2473
01:42:52,239 --> 01:42:54,119
out of that house because I could not foresee a

2474
01:42:54,159 --> 01:42:56,880
single direction he could have gone that would have resulted,

2475
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:58,479
like there's a window there, But it didn't seem like

2476
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:00,000
he went to the window. So it was a bit

2477
01:43:00,199 --> 01:43:02,159
that we didn't actually see like how he got out

2478
01:43:02,199 --> 01:43:04,239
of the house. Maybe that's a bit of a nitpick,

2479
01:43:04,279 --> 01:43:09,359
but the ending sequence, I was not a fan of it.

2480
01:43:09,359 --> 01:43:12,640
It was very weird and uh not in like the

2481
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:14,720
good weird that most of this movie was.

2482
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2483
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:17,159
Speaker 5: I guess it just took me out of it a

2484
01:43:17,159 --> 01:43:19,359
bit because it just felt like larger than life in

2485
01:43:19,359 --> 01:43:21,239
a way that there is this movie. I mean, you know,

2486
01:43:21,279 --> 01:43:22,760
if you think about it, like the Doctor he's a

2487
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:24,560
pretty larger than life character, and some of these other

2488
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,760
moments are. But I feel like if there's a level

2489
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:30,199
of groundedness to it where this felt just really strange,

2490
01:43:30,199 --> 01:43:32,720
and I feel like, to me, it almost feels like

2491
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,000
a bit of a reck coon, Like we've just seen

2492
01:43:34,039 --> 01:43:36,359
how easily if you get hit with one drop of

2493
01:43:36,359 --> 01:43:39,119
blood in the wrong place you turn, and with the

2494
01:43:39,159 --> 01:43:42,720
way they're chopping up these infected and they're all melee

2495
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,920
combat and they're doing like backflips and they're like chopping

2496
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,319
heads off and blood is gut and everywhere, like yea.

2497
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,680
To me, it makes no sense that they aren't like

2498
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,399
getting infected, like one person isn't just based on like

2499
01:43:53,399 --> 01:43:55,199
the world of these previous movies. So maybe if you

2500
01:43:55,239 --> 01:43:57,039
haven't watched this movie in twenty years, that wouldn't be

2501
01:43:57,079 --> 01:43:59,199
an issue. But for me, it's like, God, we've seen

2502
01:43:59,239 --> 01:44:02,359
how fragile people are and how easy they get infected,

2503
01:44:02,399 --> 01:44:05,359
and just doing this melee combat like parkle sh just

2504
01:44:05,359 --> 01:44:07,239
feels like a recipe for failure.

2505
01:44:07,279 --> 01:44:09,199
Speaker 1: Here they referred back to it though, even if you

2506
01:44:09,199 --> 01:44:11,119
haven't seen the movies, remember when the mom got blood

2507
01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:12,760
on her and right away the sun wiped it off

2508
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,479
and said like close your eyes, like so they've still

2509
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:19,000
referred back to you can get infected by some liquids,

2510
01:44:19,039 --> 01:44:20,079
so it's still there.

2511
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:23,199
Speaker 3: It bothers me so much with how little like ppe

2512
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:27,000
they wear in those situations, like no fucking safety glass, Like.

2513
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 5: They put a bag on one of its head, but

2514
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:30,640
then they're chopping its arms off, So yeah, I don't

2515
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:31,520
know if that really.

2516
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, like you're doing that like riot shield you know,

2517
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:37,319
like you need some protection because it sprays.

2518
01:44:37,039 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 8: Those things bubbles, you need those all the time, you know, Yeah, yeah,

2519
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:49,199
I mean I was just so surprised seeing this fucking

2520
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:54,199
velvet suit tracksuit wearing motherfucker with the chains and.

2521
01:44:54,159 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 6: You said it was who from Sinners?

2522
01:44:55,960 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Travis, just the guy who plays the main villain, Jack's crazy.

2523
01:45:00,079 --> 01:45:02,359
Speaker 2: Legally, they gave him a bunch of bad teeth. They

2524
01:45:02,399 --> 01:45:05,239
gave him like I've always heard his deterred me.

2525
01:45:05,399 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I forgot about he was in et Like

2526
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,479
I watched this year with Fastbinner, But if I hadn't

2527
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,520
seen Sinners, I wouldn't be so excited.

2528
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,279
Speaker 2: I think that's why I almost gave this a pass,

2529
01:45:14,319 --> 01:45:16,119
and like, oh fuck, it's Shack O'Connell. You know.

2530
01:45:17,039 --> 01:45:17,279
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2531
01:45:17,319 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 3: I was just so shocked by this point in the movie.

2532
01:45:20,079 --> 01:45:22,079
It was just like, how was this adventure gonna end? Like,

2533
01:45:22,159 --> 01:45:24,119
how is Spike gonna be moving on to the next

2534
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:28,960
Well he goes to fucking Rivendell and Gil Galad comes

2535
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:33,600
out and fucking chops up some motherfuckers. I was just

2536
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:36,800
so Yeah, I think I was just shocked. It seemed

2537
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,520
like such a comedic turn. Honestly, with with the moves

2538
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:43,479
they had with the dress were that they had just

2539
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:47,520
the way like their little like fucking praying mantis like

2540
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:50,600
thing that they do at the end. Oh yeah, yeah,

2541
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,640
I was just I was just shocked. Was just shocked

2542
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:58,079
across the board. I mean, yeah, a lot of setup

2543
01:45:59,119 --> 01:46:02,920
and and like even like the earlier scene, I really

2544
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:05,640
thought that the and it might go this way. I

2545
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,600
really thought like the priest dude like Jimmy's dad, was

2546
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,039
gonna be like a leader of the zombies, because like

2547
01:46:11,079 --> 01:46:13,199
it's like they're coming to take me, and I'm like, okay,

2548
01:46:13,199 --> 01:46:16,119
he's just a crazy religious guy saying this judgment day.

2549
01:46:16,399 --> 01:46:18,319
But then like when they infect him, it looks like

2550
01:46:18,359 --> 01:46:20,960
the infected actually like follow him out of there, and

2551
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,760
I'm like, oh my god, this is actually like their

2552
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:23,520
hierarchy here.

2553
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 5: He seems different than the other ones.

2554
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:25,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2555
01:46:25,279 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seemed very different, and it like made sense

2556
01:46:29,039 --> 01:46:30,960
in that moment of like, oh, he actually knows this

2557
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,239
is happening, and this is gonna be like a thing

2558
01:46:33,359 --> 01:46:35,960
moving forward plot wise with the infected that they're gonna

2559
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:39,760
be i don't know, coordinated, not necessarily a hive mind

2560
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,640
type thing, but like a hierarchy in that way, and

2561
01:46:43,319 --> 01:46:45,800
because we just don't get any of that answered at

2562
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,560
all or followed up on, I still think there might

2563
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:52,000
be something there, just with the setup of Jimmy. Maybe

2564
01:46:52,039 --> 01:46:56,439
I'm wishful thinking there, But again, that was another thing

2565
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:58,960
where I'm like, we got introduced to that really quickly

2566
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,319
and just not followed up on. And so that was

2567
01:47:01,359 --> 01:47:07,439
just another ad to my calling this a setup movie.

2568
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:10,079
But the ending was such a different vibe than the

2569
01:47:10,119 --> 01:47:12,039
rest of the movie, and I don't know how I

2570
01:47:12,079 --> 01:47:15,239
feel about it. Honestly, they should have done a centers

2571
01:47:15,279 --> 01:47:16,840
thing and just had that as the end credit. Can

2572
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:19,039
you imagine if, like the movie is just its own

2573
01:47:19,079 --> 01:47:22,079
tone mid mid credit.

2574
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:24,119
Speaker 6: Scene Jimmy shows up like this would be even.

2575
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,119
Speaker 1: Which is funny because some people argue that end credit

2576
01:47:26,159 --> 01:47:27,119
for Sinners should just be there.

2577
01:47:27,159 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly right, So that's.

2578
01:47:28,359 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 2: Kind of funny.

2579
01:47:29,199 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 1: But that's where I am with the asterisktuff, like, I

2580
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:36,680
don't really I'm fine, I'm a few minds. I'm a

2581
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,199
fine in the humor because Danny Boyle, like we saw

2582
01:47:39,239 --> 01:47:40,760
a business in twenty weeks later, but a lot of

2583
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:44,359
his movies have some very off the wall, just take

2584
01:47:44,399 --> 01:47:44,840
you out of it.

2585
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 2: Characters. I think I'm fine with getting there. It's just

2586
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:49,239
weird to be the last thing that's left with.

2587
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,399
Speaker 1: But I completely maybe it's a cop out thing, but

2588
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:54,319
just because I think it is just we got to

2589
01:47:54,359 --> 01:47:56,600
sell the movie. And if it ends in a way

2590
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,119
where oh Spike is in the woods on his own,

2591
01:47:59,119 --> 01:47:59,960
there's enough.

2592
01:48:00,079 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 2: That will check out. Be like, well, I've seen twenty.

2593
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 1: Eight years later and that was that movie right where

2594
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,159
that ends, and it's like, and I'm saying it might

2595
01:48:06,199 --> 01:48:07,920
be the best way totally to end, because it's a

2596
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:08,760
little more comedic.

2597
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,039
Speaker 2: But maybe it.

2598
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,359
Speaker 1: Is just that who are these people and why do

2599
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,319
they act like like it's such a weird ending and

2600
01:48:14,359 --> 01:48:16,479
it's a clippinger that I think it will get people

2601
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:20,079
that now when The Bone Collector comes out, more on track,

2602
01:48:20,079 --> 01:48:21,840
because I think it is in a situation or sorry,

2603
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:22,520
the Bone Temple.

2604
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 5: It is a situation, Yeah, collecting the bones to build temple.

2605
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah it's again it's not Gorilla, but it's still it's

2606
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,800
a smaller All of them have said, hey, this is

2607
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:33,680
do well, We're not doing part three. It's part two

2608
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,079
is already filmed or about to be done. So I

2609
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,239
get it from that point of view. And my hope

2610
01:48:38,359 --> 01:48:40,760
is that when all three of these movies are out,

2611
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:42,560
I'm gonna give it the same faith I gave Doon

2612
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:44,840
that Hey, when Doom Part two comes out, it's gonna

2613
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:46,880
completely make sense. And it did, and I'm gonna hope that, hey,

2614
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:50,239
when we get Bone Temple and whatever three is, it's

2615
01:48:50,239 --> 01:48:53,000
just gonna feel like one gigantic movie, you know, like

2616
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:54,840
I lower the rings or way where yeah, it ends

2617
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:58,680
in a sense, but still it's not over till Proto

2618
01:48:59,119 --> 01:49:01,960
destroys that ring. Right, you can't end fellowship with them

2619
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:03,880
almost split apart and big Well, that's the end of

2620
01:49:04,359 --> 01:49:06,760
the Chapter's like, no, if you're trying to a trilogy

2621
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:08,600
and get the funding, you got to end in a

2622
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:10,720
very clipping way, even if it makes this movie like

2623
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:11,840
feel awkward.

2624
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 5: You know, it's only when Jimmy throws his necklace in

2625
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:17,119
the fires of Mount Doom will all be.

2626
01:49:17,079 --> 01:49:20,199
Speaker 2: Over the Bone Temple Doom.

2627
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,279
Speaker 5: Did the priest look like hot Priest from Fleabag?

2628
01:49:24,319 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 2: To you? I feel it looked like Andrew Scott.

2629
01:49:26,119 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 1: It did look like, yeah, which I would love to

2630
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:30,800
be at these you know, I would be great, But.

2631
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 5: I'll take him as a rage monster or a human out.

2632
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah he's British, so get him in there.

2633
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, very excited for it's just center type, but

2634
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,760
very excited for Jack O'Connell, very dynamic actor. And I'm

2635
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:42,880
very excited that they didn't show him any marketing or

2636
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,840
they they with people knew he's in it, but they

2637
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:46,479
withheld him.

2638
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 2: And I think he's gonna be I think it's gonna

2639
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:52,520
be similar to the Army Camp in twenty eight days later,

2640
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:56,199
but this time it's going to be interesting, not kind

2641
01:49:56,239 --> 01:50:00,680
of boring, I think. So, yeah, there, what do you

2642
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:02,920
think of this? Uh camp? But then you can give

2643
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:03,720
your final thoughts too.

2644
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:12,199
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, what were we talking about?

2645
01:50:12,359 --> 01:50:15,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm not gonna lie.

2646
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:20,279
Speaker 7: I'm getting just having fun man making movies, big adventure,

2647
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:21,560
having a great time.

2648
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:23,359
Speaker 4: I'm getting hit.

2649
01:50:23,279 --> 01:50:28,039
Speaker 7: With the twenty seconds twenty seconds.

2650
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:31,079
Speaker 2: Okay, So what did you think of the ending of

2651
01:50:31,119 --> 01:50:32,760
the movie, and then you can go into your final

2652
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:34,880
thoughts and rating as the alpha.

2653
01:50:35,079 --> 01:50:42,039
Speaker 4: Uh No, I'm just kidding. The ending of the movie.

2654
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:47,239
Speaker 7: Right right, we're talking about Jimmy, Jimmy specifically, that's for

2655
01:50:47,399 --> 01:50:51,039
that's why I got lost in there. So Jimmy, I

2656
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:53,159
I didn't think they were gonna bring it back. When

2657
01:50:53,199 --> 01:50:55,239
we got to the the end here and the character

2658
01:50:55,279 --> 01:50:57,520
was in here, I completely caught me off guard because

2659
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:00,960
when I read reviews and ahead of time, the thing

2660
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,520
people were lightly touching upon was just how you get

2661
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:05,880
this great story and how things just get to the

2662
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:09,119
end and then boom, it takes this curve ball down

2663
01:51:09,159 --> 01:51:11,439
the sideway his pathway, and it's like, what's going on?

2664
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 4: It turned a lot of people off.

2665
01:51:13,359 --> 01:51:17,319
Speaker 7: I was expecting something much worse, like a major character

2666
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,399
death after like the mom Like, okay, like the boy's

2667
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:23,560
gonna die, They're gonna kill the baby something crazy, And

2668
01:51:24,039 --> 01:51:26,880
that didn't happen. No, we got Jimmy coming back. He's

2669
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,199
got the upside down Cross now, he's got this weird look.

2670
01:51:29,279 --> 01:51:33,880
He's got like the Ninja like crew guys now like

2671
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:38,399
doing all this funky stunts. It was crazy, and I

2672
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,359
did not mind it. I thought, Okay, this is just

2673
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:43,840
a faction that's just getting super zany and super weird.

2674
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:48,359
And I like the idea of Spike becoming one of

2675
01:51:48,399 --> 01:51:50,920
them or them trying to bring them in and seeing

2676
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:51,600
where that goes.

2677
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,319
Speaker 4: I really like that a lot. So yeah, I'm on

2678
01:51:54,399 --> 01:51:54,880
board with that.

2679
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 7: And I'm excited to see where that's gonna go and

2680
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,880
hopefully it pays off because it could be done for

2681
01:52:00,199 --> 01:52:02,640
poorly in the sequel, but we'll find out what's going on.

2682
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,520
I don't trust them, not at all. But yeah, the

2683
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:06,159
whole idea to.

2684
01:52:06,279 --> 01:52:09,199
Speaker 1: Me, the crew or the film, the crews, the crew, Yeah,

2685
01:52:10,079 --> 01:52:13,199
because I remember it is even though I really enjoyed

2686
01:52:13,199 --> 01:52:14,880
Candy Man. Remember the next one is not directed by

2687
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:16,560
Danny Boyle as well as Nacosta.

2688
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,640
Speaker 2: So who did the Marbles and candy Man? Which Marbles? Eh,

2689
01:52:20,159 --> 01:52:21,840
you know, the cree came.

2690
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: Here hopeful, but I really like candy Man, so I'm hoping,

2691
01:52:25,159 --> 01:52:27,199
you know, still has some of that juice going on.

2692
01:52:27,279 --> 01:52:30,520
Speaker 7: So the Yeah, and the actor playing adult Jimmy. Fuck

2693
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:31,880
I even Lake.

2694
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 4: You mentioned that one. I did not realize.

2695
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 2: He's the little shit kid in there.

2696
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,119
Speaker 7: You've seen in Lake, right, No, I haven't, but it's

2697
01:52:38,199 --> 01:52:40,199
I can't remember her name, O'Reilly.

2698
01:52:40,319 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 4: I think she was in Sherlock Holmes.

2699
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 2: She's in Yellowstone and Fastbenders. Her the male lead in that.

2700
01:52:46,079 --> 01:52:48,119
Speaker 4: He's in there. Okay, Yeah, so I'm gonna watch that.

2701
01:52:48,159 --> 01:52:49,000
Add it to my list.

2702
01:52:49,119 --> 01:52:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's same thing.

2703
01:52:50,279 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: It's like in a UK Europe set where they are

2704
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,520
going vacation fast Bear and plans to propose. But it's

2705
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:57,920
Jack O'Connell a bunch of like and it's young Jack

2706
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,439
O'Connell sixteen seventeen, and they just decided to hair eyes

2707
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:02,920
this couple and like torture them. And they're like it's

2708
01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:07,239
full straight kind of not almost body horror, body horror.

2709
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,199
Speaker 2: But there's lots of disturbing stuff. But yeah, he's like

2710
01:53:09,239 --> 01:53:12,039
the ring leader of this, like fucking maybe it's the

2711
01:53:12,079 --> 01:53:15,119
same people, you know, it's the same characters, but yeah,

2712
01:53:15,279 --> 01:53:17,319
and it's like, what are these guys motivation? You know

2713
01:53:17,359 --> 01:53:19,079
when they're doing all these flips and chains, it's like

2714
01:53:19,399 --> 01:53:22,800
what is their what is their goal? Because clearly we're spikes.

2715
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,159
Speaker 1: From its just to survive, right, build a community, you

2716
01:53:25,199 --> 01:53:28,000
know the doctor, the doctor, I know that.

2717
01:53:28,159 --> 01:53:31,279
Speaker 5: The YouTuber of this world. Maybe they could go livestrem

2718
01:53:31,319 --> 01:53:31,680
going on.

2719
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting.

2720
01:53:34,079 --> 01:53:37,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, but iPhones, excuse me.

2721
01:53:37,199 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 7: I think it's just gonna be It's gonna be fantastic

2722
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:43,239
to see him taking on this this mantle of main

2723
01:53:43,399 --> 01:53:46,840
villain kind of weird q key guy because yeah, after

2724
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:47,680
seeing him as Sinners.

2725
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,159
Speaker 4: I was just well the Rocky Road.

2726
01:53:50,039 --> 01:53:53,079
Speaker 2: To Dublin, you know, just like he could sing.

2727
01:53:53,119 --> 01:53:55,159
Speaker 4: He might sing, but I hope he does. They should

2728
01:53:55,199 --> 01:53:55,520
cut that.

2729
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:57,680
Speaker 1: If they do, you don't wanna You don't want to

2730
01:53:57,760 --> 01:53:59,960
draw too many comparison to Center Ripoff.

2731
01:54:00,359 --> 01:54:02,319
Speaker 4: Turn this into a musical in the sequel.

2732
01:54:03,119 --> 01:54:05,359
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if they get back to home base

2733
01:54:05,399 --> 01:54:07,479
and that's where they reveal killing Killian is the leader

2734
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:10,000
of this fucking gang and he's like dressed up the

2735
01:54:10,039 --> 01:54:10,600
same way.

2736
01:54:11,399 --> 01:54:12,039
Speaker 2: Well, that's true.

2737
01:54:12,039 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 7: The interesting thing is we all assume Killian got rescued

2738
01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:17,199
because of that plane.

2739
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 1: You didn't because back I record on air, I thought

2740
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:22,439
they drove past him and a lot of bad shit

2741
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:24,239
happened to him.

2742
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. That's true.

2743
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 7: I feel in my interpretation, I think back at then,

2744
01:54:30,039 --> 01:54:32,560
in the beginning of the outbreak and at first Wave,

2745
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:34,640
they probably tried to rescue as many people as they could,

2746
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:36,960
and when the receiving of Britain didn't work out, it's like, no,

2747
01:54:37,119 --> 01:54:39,520
fuck it, you guys are on your own America lost.

2748
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:42,399
You know, it's all just it's not looking good. So

2749
01:54:42,439 --> 01:54:45,319
now I think it'll be interesting to see. Yeah, maybe

2750
01:54:45,399 --> 01:54:48,159
Killian Murphy is someone that was just stranded here and

2751
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:52,199
he's here the whole time, or maybe that's probably the

2752
01:54:52,319 --> 01:54:54,840
likelier story, because the odds of him being someone on

2753
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,359
the mainland and going here doesn't make any sense. Why

2754
01:54:57,439 --> 01:55:00,640
wait thirty years later to go back here from the mainland.

2755
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,079
Speaker 1: Because also, not to make this view any longer, but

2756
01:55:03,079 --> 01:55:05,479
my thing is, in between twenty eight days and twenty

2757
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,640
eight weeks, when they were quarantined, people weren't allowed to

2758
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,039
leave that area, right, even when the disease was gone,

2759
01:55:11,239 --> 01:55:12,960
they weren't allowed like, oh, I'm gonna go to Canada.

2760
01:55:13,119 --> 01:55:15,439
So even if killing Murphy would survived that moment, he

2761
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:17,800
was still he would still be here when everything went

2762
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:18,439
shit again.

2763
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:21,359
Speaker 7: So it's not like, oh, well, if he came back,

2764
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,079
if he came back came back from what because I mean,

2765
01:55:24,159 --> 01:55:26,399
if he was rescued and brought to the mainland like

2766
01:55:26,439 --> 01:55:29,399
all these other people were, then he may not have

2767
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:33,680
decided to go back to do the receding thing repopulating

2768
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:34,680
of England, right.

2769
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 2: M okay, didn't the mainl I get fucked up too?

2770
01:55:38,039 --> 01:55:42,720
Speaker 7: Or no, well like France did, but then that all

2771
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:44,000
got rectified, right right?

2772
01:55:44,119 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So just this pocket. I guess if he got

2773
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:47,159
to the mainland.

2774
01:55:47,159 --> 01:55:49,159
Speaker 1: I just feel like I wonder if they'd start capping

2775
01:55:49,159 --> 01:55:51,800
those people, you know, like, eah, the disease is back,

2776
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:52,640
you're coming from here.

2777
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:54,479
Speaker 2: We'd watch the mainland.

2778
01:55:54,039 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 5: You know, I Eveland, it's pretty big. I mean, there's yeah,

2779
01:55:57,479 --> 01:56:01,159
there's obviously a lot of people who'd never even privy

2780
01:56:01,199 --> 01:56:05,039
to that kind of receding plan. Right, They're still out

2781
01:56:05,039 --> 01:56:07,319
there building their bone temples.

2782
01:56:07,039 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 4: And things, building their bone temples. Yeah.

2783
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,119
Speaker 7: I was curious because I was looking at because they

2784
01:56:10,119 --> 01:56:13,840
made a point another hour here we go. Yeah.

2785
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 9: Well, at the at the start for you listeners, you know,

2786
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,279
at the at the start of the of the movie,

2787
01:56:20,319 --> 01:56:24,039
they talk about like the Scottish hillsides, and it's like, okay, well,

2788
01:56:24,079 --> 01:56:26,840
if you look at the United Kingdom down here, like

2789
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,840
England where the viruses and we're going way up north

2790
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,640
up to where Scotland is, Like, isn't.

2791
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:35,199
Speaker 5: Like a thing though of like in the Scotland Hills

2792
01:56:35,239 --> 01:56:37,239
or whatever, Like, aren't they actually in Scotland?

2793
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's up north up here. So I mean the

2794
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,239
outbreak starts way in England here in London, and so

2795
01:56:42,279 --> 01:56:43,079
it goes all.

2796
01:56:43,279 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 5: What I'm in Ireland. That's what I want to know.

2797
01:56:45,359 --> 01:56:47,239
Speaker 7: Oh, they're just they're having a good time over there.

2798
01:56:47,279 --> 01:56:50,239
They closed the bridges on the Rocky Road due Dublin.

2799
01:56:50,359 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 4: Look at that fucking right there.

2800
01:56:52,039 --> 01:56:53,359
Speaker 2: That's where he came from.

2801
01:56:54,119 --> 01:56:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's a Because I scrolled up, I was

2802
01:56:58,279 --> 01:57:00,359
going to do something with the fantastic, But I looking

2803
01:57:00,399 --> 01:57:03,239
at this picture of back in the day, Charlton Heston.

2804
01:57:03,399 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 2: Fuck he was an alpha. Look at him, Charltons. Oh yeah,

2805
01:57:09,319 --> 01:57:11,359
my score.

2806
01:57:13,239 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna give this.

2807
01:57:15,039 --> 01:57:15,159
Speaker 3: Uh.

2808
01:57:17,399 --> 01:57:19,239
Speaker 7: I don't have any reason not to give it a

2809
01:57:19,239 --> 01:57:22,239
ten out of ten. I think, well, I like certain

2810
01:57:22,279 --> 01:57:24,680
other things in a zombie movie, and this didn't have

2811
01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:27,319
like the crazy all you craziness.

2812
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:28,479
Speaker 4: Of like World War Z or all out war and

2813
01:57:28,479 --> 01:57:31,000
anything like that. It gave me little bits and pieces of.

2814
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 7: World building that I really like in a zombie movie

2815
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:35,479
that I don't get in other zombie flicks. There's so

2816
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:37,000
much going on here, and I think it did a

2817
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:39,600
great job for a sequel, and it really left the

2818
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:40,960
door open for me to be really.

2819
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 4: Excited for what's to come.

2820
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:45,479
Speaker 7: And I think this movie tackles so many different beats

2821
01:57:45,479 --> 01:57:49,560
of humanity and just emotion and family and trauma, and

2822
01:57:50,119 --> 01:57:53,000
like I've said many times already, like the civilization's civility

2823
01:57:53,079 --> 01:57:54,760
and savagery and all that kind of stuff. I think

2824
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,479
it's great. I'm really excited to rewatch this. And I again,

2825
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:00,600
if you've tuned into the spoilers review when you haven't

2826
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:04,279
seen the movie yet, I suggest you go watch the movie.

2827
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:09,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't spoil anything, yeah courct uh.

2828
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I thoroughly enjoyed this one. I do have

2829
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,600
some hold ups. I'll do the classic Dune Part one

2830
01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:18,159
rating thing now. I think I'm gonna give it a

2831
01:58:18,239 --> 01:58:22,800
nine out of ten for now. Curious if it goes

2832
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,479
up or down on a rewatch, because it is just

2833
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:29,640
a fun time honestly, like when when they're on their mission,

2834
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:34,279
like it it's intense, and it's also just beautiful, like

2835
01:58:34,319 --> 01:58:36,159
some of the locations that are within, like the deep

2836
01:58:36,239 --> 01:58:41,359
woods and everything. So yeah, it's a different zombie adventure

2837
01:58:41,399 --> 01:58:44,239
as well, Like it feels different than the traditional ones

2838
01:58:44,239 --> 01:58:46,439
that I had, and especially like coming off of twenty

2839
01:58:46,439 --> 01:58:49,840
eight days and weeks later, like us doing the retro,

2840
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:53,680
I thought those movies were pretty pretty alright, you know,

2841
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:55,880
like like definitely nothing special, So This was like a

2842
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:59,640
big step up, honestly in quality across the board, I

2843
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:01,800
think for the franchise as a whole. So it's pretty

2844
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:03,840
sweet that they're able to really pull that off. And

2845
01:59:04,079 --> 01:59:07,800
uh yeah, I'm I'm hoping it's honestly, I I hope

2846
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:09,720
this does really really other box office so we get

2847
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:12,000
that third film, because I do like a lot of

2848
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:14,239
the stuff that they introduced here, and if we don't

2849
01:59:14,239 --> 01:59:17,880
get all of that answered in the subsequent films or film,

2850
01:59:18,119 --> 01:59:20,079
I'm gonna be pretty disappointed never.

2851
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 2: See Killian ever because they don't do the third one.

2852
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like I'm not like super tied

2853
01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:28,439
to that being like Chillian's gonna.

2854
01:59:28,279 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 2: Be back, like the curious actions of our generation.

2855
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be good, but like what does

2856
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:36,600
that do for story purpose? You know?

2857
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:40,159
Speaker 3: Like I want to know more about just Ralph Fines

2858
01:59:40,239 --> 01:59:41,159
and his bone temples.

2859
01:59:41,199 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 2: You know, Ralph, well, he was our guy though, you know, he's.

2860
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 6: Great, man, he's great. Just let him. I guess he's

2861
01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:50,000
in the Scottish Hillens and playing himself.

2862
01:59:50,079 --> 01:59:52,039
Speaker 4: Where Oh my.

2863
01:59:52,079 --> 01:59:56,279
Speaker 5: God, mister mus hmm, Yeah, I I love this movie.

2864
01:59:56,359 --> 01:59:59,560
I Uh, I think it's it's it's you know, it's

2865
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:01,880
a tricky I feel, you know, this series doesn't have

2866
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:04,520
enough sauce for us to take a full retrospective ranking

2867
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,000
like we usually do for other rankings. But this is

2868
02:00:07,039 --> 02:00:09,000
clearly far and away, like the best one in the

2869
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:11,039
trilogy for me. And that's great because I feel like

2870
02:00:11,079 --> 02:00:12,960
a lot of the legacy sequels that is not often

2871
02:00:13,039 --> 02:00:14,600
the case. It's rare that you get one that's just

2872
02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:18,560
like so clearly better than like the predecessors. But yeah,

2873
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:20,640
I feel like this movie. I don't want to use

2874
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:22,680
the word messie, but it's just there's so much going

2875
02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:25,039
on here. It definitely has a bit of that, like

2876
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:28,239
doing one situation of like I don't know how are

2877
02:00:28,279 --> 02:00:30,000
some of these things go to resolve that could change

2878
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:32,039
how I feel about this, And like I said, like

2879
02:00:32,039 --> 02:00:34,000
there's just there's a move. There's a lot of things here,

2880
02:00:34,039 --> 02:00:35,880
and there's a lot of things just like taped and

2881
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:39,359
grafted on. So you know, I'm gonna do something unprecedented here.

2882
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:42,840
I'm gonna give this movie an eight and a ten,

2883
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:45,520
so you can you can round that out to a

2884
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:47,079
nine if you want, or you can look at it

2885
02:00:47,079 --> 02:00:50,560
as two separate scores. I don't care. I make the score,

2886
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:53,319
you can interpret it. So I'm gonna give you two

2887
02:00:53,399 --> 02:00:54,600
separate numbers there, and you do.

2888
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:55,359
Speaker 6: With it what you will.

2889
02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:57,960
Speaker 2: I respect it.

2890
02:00:57,960 --> 02:00:58,760
Speaker 4: It's a negative two.

2891
02:00:59,399 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 5: There you go. People will read that as a minus too,

2892
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:03,760
and you know what, that's fine. That's fine with me.

2893
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 2: Mind this too, Danny Boyles, Fine, let's look at the map.

2894
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:17,319
Oh boy, I wonder what the no no no the

2895
02:01:15,439 --> 02:01:21,119
y I directed this movie twenty years later.

2896
02:01:22,319 --> 02:01:25,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've said everything I need to fantastic movie by

2897
02:01:25,199 --> 02:01:27,319
film the year so far. I will be rewatching maybe

2898
02:01:27,399 --> 02:01:29,079
since again this week because the we hasn't seen it.

2899
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:32,520
I'm excited because she really likes the twenty eight series,

2900
02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:34,079
so I'm excited for her to see this is when

2901
02:01:34,119 --> 02:01:35,159
I cannot wait to U.

2902
02:01:36,119 --> 02:01:37,600
Speaker 5: Did she do a rewatch with you?

2903
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:42,199
Speaker 2: We watched them, both them. I think she's pretty much

2904
02:01:42,199 --> 02:01:43,479
alive with our thoughts.

2905
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 1: Like the first one, same thing, like the ending is

2906
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:48,720
very and the second one was like, yeah, it was fine.

2907
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:50,319
But I think this is to me, it's just like

2908
02:01:50,399 --> 02:01:53,079
I'm gonna try to underplay it because I just don't

2909
02:01:53,079 --> 02:01:54,800
want to set up for all it's amazing. Don't wory

2910
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:56,479
about to feel like, this is a whole new beast

2911
02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:58,880
coming our way. But uh yeah, no, we did not

2912
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:01,720
think I would anyway. I think this would be at

2913
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:04,119
any point having not that.

2914
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:08,439
Speaker 5: Beast, that the whole new Beast come out with me

2915
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:09,279
this weekend, you know.

2916
02:02:09,359 --> 02:02:13,479
Speaker 2: But no, I think that I'm just in shock that

2917
02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:15,680
even if it gets bumped, the fact that at one

2918
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:18,199
point I had it Frank number one and have it

2919
02:02:18,239 --> 02:02:19,880
for multiple things and gold gas coming up.

2920
02:02:20,079 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 1: It's a facet too good job to the entire crew

2921
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,239
cast and specifically Garland Boile.

2922
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:27,720
Speaker 2: You guys still got the juices, still got the gasoline.

2923
02:02:28,039 --> 02:02:31,439
Can't wait to see two and three hope Hopeless continues.

2924
02:02:31,479 --> 02:02:34,159
I'm now now and we're in the dangerous spot because

2925
02:02:34,159 --> 02:02:35,840
I feel like Bone Temple's gonna have a hype that

2926
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:39,159
I don't know will match this, But we'll see, baby,

2927
02:02:39,159 --> 02:02:41,479
it will. I mean, we'll just get this great trilogy here.

2928
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:46,159
Speaker 1: But I'm very invested in multiple characters now, including Killing.

2929
02:02:46,279 --> 02:02:48,600
I want Killing back, you know, and I can't wait.

2930
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:52,520
So we'll be back in the future next couple of weeks.

2931
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:55,479
Stern July, Durassic World two Men Fantastic for some big

2932
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:59,279
other juicy gasoline field reviews coming up. But unlike the

2933
02:02:59,399 --> 02:03:01,119
room in this one, we don't pass out. We just

2934
02:03:01,199 --> 02:03:03,039
thrive on it. We're like the Alphons when we get

2935
02:03:03,039 --> 02:03:04,880
the gas, so we're here for us next.

2936
02:03:05,399 --> 02:03:07,399
Speaker 2: I love you, Bory Bye,