Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gee
First Podcast, Episode six hundred and sixty five.
Speaker 2: I'm the Doctor Trash Now I'm joined by.
Speaker 3: I am the Alpha Hog, Curricle Patzer, and then Mark
Cast Jill Mss.
Speaker 4: I'm the iodine to the field.
Speaker 2: Yes, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Man, we have a good one, I think, and so
I think it's gonna be very interesting review.
Speaker 2: You might be thinking, hey, did you guys reveal the others?
Of course we did.
Speaker 1: If you want to know our thoughts before we get
to the actual one, and maybe you're leading up to it,
you just hear for Nonspoilers, we did review twenty eight
days and weeks later.
Speaker 2: They're on the Patreon.
Speaker 1: Go check that out, along with The Mission Impossible, Superman
Fantastic Four. Those are our retro series this year and
there'll be some fun just spin off funds come in
the fall.
Speaker 2: But we did talk about those other two, so if
you want our full in depth thoughts there and there.
Speaker 1: I think the first one's a really good discussion, and
I think the second one is a very fun discussion
which leads to a lot of what ifs and like
what would you do?
Speaker 2: In this situation and stuff.
Speaker 1: So glad people are listening to that and getting the
kick out of that, and you know, find out how
Taylor would respond incorrectly. But I feel that, you know,
this one presents with some more opportunities, more conversation. So
I'm gonna throw to the man who's seen it firstly,
who's seen it the longest, mister muss he saw this afternoon.
Speaker 5: Before the longest. I don't know if that's you've.
Speaker 2: Seen it for the longest. Right out of all of us,
you've seen you know long.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you make it sound like I'm gonna have a
more informed take, but now now I have to. Now
I feel like the pressure is on that I have
to sound really smart and cool during this.
Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't gonna throw it correctly because he just
got home, so it's given him time to sit on it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: He liven Taylor for the last because he's a twenty
days later, saw me guy, So I thought of you,
because oh you've you've sat with it and people.
Speaker 2: Already heard me intro, so they're already sick of me.
So you're the perfect gateway.
Speaker 5: I'll take that. Take that baton, man. I I don't
know where to start with this one. This is a
this is a crazy movie. I think that this is
a series if you go back to those retros, Like
I hadn't seen either of these movies until when did
we do the first retro last month? So like you know,
an go pretty pretty fresh and coming for both of them,
like pretty lukewarm the second one like luke cold, even
like it's not really my cup of te You didn't
really love these movies, and so I was very excited
to do this retro and go to this movie in
like the coming months, talking about it on trailers and
things like that. But then you know, after then the
retro's like, okay, well, my high level is a little
bit lower. I think the expectations are pretty low on this,
and so I think I'm kind of out of this,
like very happy and very surprised. And I think maybe
one of the big reasons is that going back to
that first movie, you know, it's not it's not perfect.
We all talk about how like maybe kind of drags
and the third act and stuff, but I feel like
it was a very weird and different and pretty stylish
movie in terms of like the music and the vibes
of it and even just a look, and we talked
about like a lot of the camera tricks and things
they used, and so it ends up having like a
very unique vibe to it. And then the second one.
I think the most disappointing part for me is that
like it was kind of vibeleist, like it was just
very generic, very boy. The book kind of lost that
style and replaced it with like no style whatsoever, and
I feel like this movie kind of overcorrected. I feel
like it's ten to twenty percent two stylish, Like it's
too much. It's like a scattershot of tons of stuff.
The editing in this movie is fucking wild, and I
was thinking about it, I'm like, I feel like most movies,
you know, you could give the editors like all the
same shots, right, probably nine percent of the time is
a random number off the top of my head. Nine
percent of the time you'll get like a mostly similar movie.
But I feel like with this movie, you give this
movie all the shots that they have to a one
hundred different editors, I think you get a hundred completely
different movies just because it is all over the place.
It's crazy, and I love that because it's super weird.
And different. It makes me think about a lot of stuff.
But there's also like several things that I really need
when we get to the spoiler section, I need to
just ask you guys about because I have no idea
what some of these things are supposed to mean, if
they're supposed to be anything, what the deeper meaning is,
if they're connecting on the story stuff in a deeper level.
So ultimately I come out of this, I'm like, I
just love movies like this that give me a lot
to chew on, a want to think about. And I
wasn't really expecting that after what the first two movies were.
So yeah, I think there's some really great emotional depth
of that this movie. It goes to at certain points
and times. I think some of the action stuff's really good.
I think this movie, I mean, you know, shot with
what like thirty six iPhones at one time, and it
looks like in a weird way, like this movie looks
so different than a lot of other things, and it
brings back some Pink Floydi music from the first one.
So yeah, I'm pretty hot on this. But also it
does feel like there's, like I said, kind of ten
to twenty percent too much style, Like there's so much
grafted on to this and I feel like maybe they
could have pulled a little bit off to make it
a little bit cleaner. So I don't know, feel it
feels like a very murky situation here. But I'm very
excited to break this one down. I think there's a
lot to break down. This is an interesting ride.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I'll go kirking you think a little longer.
It's funny you brought up the retro.
Speaker 1: This remind me and this probably spoils my thoughts for
the movie, but this reminds me of when we did.
Speaker 2: The John Wick retro and john Wick four happened. And
I'm not sure where your level is, but for me,
that was retro series similaris where like, Okay, I like
the first one.
Speaker 1: This one only has one fall, but still was like,
all right, this is fine. But like I was excited,
I was more curious to see, like it's been a
long time for a sequel, Danny Boyle hasn't been this
world for a while. I was garling, like fantastic writer, director,
He's back. So I was just more curious, And the
trailers were really good, so I'm like Okay, I can't
wait to see this, And much like with John Wick,
I was going into like, all right, I haven't loved
this series, but let's see what happens. And that's exactly
happening with this and John Wig. Four end up loving
and I end up loving this.
Speaker 2: I am in shock by saying this is my movie
the year I loved Sinners.
Speaker 1: But there's your spoyl. I put this above six. Yeah
really because for me, what I was not expecting in
Sinners has some of this too.
Speaker 2: But this movie is hardcore.
Speaker 1: This movie is nasty, it's dirty, it's mean, but then
it's super like at times beautiful. And I don't mean
by oh the shots of visions. I mean like the
storytelling and what these characters are going through and the
messages they have, you know, like just like Myersports. It's
mostly in the third act, but there's stuff where it's
like I was not expecting to be choking up during
twenty eight years, not at all, not never had that
on my Bengo card. That happened to me multiple times
in the third act, and it's just it's it's beautiful,
it is grace.
Speaker 2: It's very odd, just like don't even talk about the
style of the movie. The whole movie's odd but been in
a good way where even after that beautiful stuff, right away, okay.
Speaker 1: Something really crazy is going on, you know. So it's
and they do the bounce pretty much.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I have one minor critique, but my minor critique I
completely understand why they did it. It just feels like
a little off but no end performances all around. I've
said this before. I have to do a study that
maybe Aeron Taylor Johnson is only great when he gets
to do his natural accent.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that that's what it is because I still
seeing Craven. But in Craven, did he do like a
Russian accent? Or was he American?
Speaker 1: Or Okay, I like bullet train this. I'm trying to
think of other stuff. But I think those are times like, oh,
he's good. This is I don't know, like a big
Eron Taylor Johnson guy. So I can't maybe say this,
but I think this is probably his best performance. Jody
Coemor's fantastic. This, I'll find out the kid's name. He's fantastic,
fines this fantastic across the board. There's certain things that
I was wondering because I feel like it's more of
a chapter of the twenty years or Day's world and
I say, okay, am I gonna miss X, Y and
Z And not at all. This showed like they to
me completely adapted the universe. Well, they evolved it, which
is great because this almost feels like it's oh it
has like even visually it sometimes looks a lot like
how we talked about with twenty eight Days Later, where
it looks very old, and he used the type of
camera where it's like, Okay, this is a lot older
than you needed to do in the late nineties or
early two thousands, and same thing this reopens up, You're like, oh,
it looks old. It almost looks like this should come
out in like two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: But that's what I love about it. But that's what's
weird is it's still the same writer. Not weird, it
just shows how much time has passed out. Great there
it's the same writer and same director. But there's at
times where I go, oh, this is like a new
This is like something that.
Speaker 1: Grew up with twenty eight Days Later, and they had
this in remind like, oh, if I could make a
sequel this is what it would be.
Speaker 2: But no, it's just the two that started it. They've
evolved and.
Speaker 1: They're just that damn good. I talk about Bond directors
right now. Danny Boyle almost directed a Bond movie. I
very much want that now after this, I'm like, man,
that to me is shot up my front runner. But no,
across the board sound design, visuals, like Dylan said, there
is some wacky, crazy shots that take you out of
it for a second, because I feel like it does
remind you it's a movie, and at times it almost
feels like a video game. Some of these like slow
motion action stuff. But I still wouldn't take it out
because it like it that was allowed vehicle.
Speaker 2: There's two.
Speaker 1: My god, I wouldn't take it out because it adds
some uniqueness to it. So yeah, this was a huge
surprise for me and I cannot wait for more. Please
go see this movie so we can get I know
two at least happening, but they said three depends on
this man. I am very much invested in this world
and they're still just everything they introduced. We have a
lot to talk about. I'm very interested in the concept.
So yeah, to me, absolute home run. Kudos to the
team loved this movie so.
Speaker 5: And with the second one, we know it's called the
Bone Temple. If you're curious what the heck that means,
this movie will answer that for you. You will know
what a bone temple is, so will.
Speaker 6: It will it fully answer that.
Speaker 3: I feel like you get thoroughly enjoyed this movie. So
that's like my quick review rating. But like I was,
I was very confused throughout. I feel like this movie
has a lot of setup in it, like we get
introduced to a lot of just wild stuff. I feel
like the third act like we're just we're just we
go through something and then it's like, man, I can't
wait to find out what's going on here. It's like
see you next time. Well, you know, we're getting the
next movie, So I'm gonna hold my breath for it.
Speaker 6: But I think it because I was, I.
Speaker 3: Was just so confused with with with the things that
they're thrown at us. And it's not like just one
big thing. It was it was a handful of them. Obviously,
I'm gonna save that for spoilers, but I think that
just had me per plea even though I was like
thoroughly enjoying everything about it, like sound design. Like you said,
the shots, especially with the infected, were just upgraded from
what the original was. And the original one had just
a lot of unique camera work, and I think this
one it just feels like a modern version of it
and they did such.
Speaker 6: A great job.
Speaker 3: There's a specific I mean it's in the trailer, so like,
I guess I'll kind of spoil it, but like when
you have that sequence with two characters and there's just
like this chant that's going on and it's just like
as like just the like splicing to different shots, I
was so disturbed and unsettled and like nothing was even
really happy. I felt like I was watching The Witch
first for for a sequence, and yeah, I was so
gripped by this film. Highly highly recommend watching it. But
and then like, yeah, like the last shot, I just
I'm not even gonna say anything. I was just like
what is going on here? So yeah, yeah, I did
really enjoy it, but I yeah, it definitely it's hard
for me to give it like a perfect ratio. I'm
just disconfused, I think, but like I don't know, I
know I'm getting more, so I don't want to just
judge it on that, but I don't know. It's it's
tough to say right now because I don't want to
say anything that might spoil something, but definitely recommend it.
I think performances, especially by the lead what was his
name here, Alfie Williams. I like the boy Spike so
fantastic as a lead, Like man, he was like, yeah,
I felt like I was following him on this journey
and I was really impressed by just the performance and
the situations that he was tackled or sorry, tackling and yeah.
Speaker 6: No, I thought it was really really solid.
Speaker 3: And if you haven't seen the other ones, I don't
think you have to at all. Honestly, I think this
is like a okay movie to jump in. I don't
know if you guys feel the same way, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for the most part, I feel like
the later ones are going to start to get more
into the like, h you probably should see them all,
you know. I feel like they'll go that rope, but
this one I feel like you could pick up and
just they'll fill you in enough of what's going.
Speaker 3: On, give you a little text at the beginning of
like yeah, you know, this is the situation.
Speaker 1: And it's like myners spoils, but it's all in the trailers,
like Aranta Johnson's teaching his son to hunt and using
that character's exposition is fantastic because he's just quizzing his son.
And what an awesome way because in most of them like,
well this is what happened they say, it was like no,
it's okay, I've told you this, you know, you repeated
back to me. But for us, some of the stuff
we know and some of the stuff we don't because
it's been twenty years. So there's a great way to
drop that exposition. That felt very natural and again.
Speaker 2: Very video very video gaming.
Speaker 1: Daniel Will said, Last of Us inspired, like some of this,
it's like this had like the last of his game.
Speaker 2: This has all that over this, Like it feels like
that at times.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I feel like video games would typically use
like a character as like Amnesia to do that sort
of thing, right, but this is just like, ah, I
we'll just put a kid in that in that spot instead.
Speaker 2: M hmm, mister Field.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, this this movie. I was thinking it would
be one other, complete, different thing based on the trailers,
and I'm so happy the trailers do a dang good
job and misleading or at least not giving you enough
context of what's going on. When you actually sit down
and watch this movie, that that makes for a much
much better time because trailers these days they give you
all the context, all the information, and then there you go.
Speaker 4: It's it is what it is.
Speaker 7: But this movie has a lot of surprises and it
has a lot of things that you see the scenes
in the trailer. You don't have the context. You just
don't know. When you watch it, it's like, wow, this
is totally different when I was thinking, and it's it's
really really good.
Speaker 4: I like that this is Oh that's a bit of
a spoiler.
Speaker 7: It's It does a good job at presenting the Okay,
this is the problem, this is what we're dealing with,
and then it carries on to okay, how things have changed,
and then it carries on to where things are going.
I think it does a great job at standing on
its own. Like you said, Kirkling, you don't need to
really watch the other two. If you watch this and
this is your first time getting into it and you
want more of this world, Boom, there's two more that
you can you can get into, and those two on
their own, they stand for if someone is really engaged
with this this franchise, they can get at it. But
they're also set for different type of audiences with different
demographics because they're both done very very differently. The camera
work in this completely caught me off guard. When you
get certain I'm not gonna say because it's a spoiler,
but just the way the camera turns at certain sequences,
it's like, Wow, I was not expecting that. And it's
so unique because I don't know if I've ever seen
something like that before. I feel like it's it again.
You guys highlighted it video games. It's right out of
a video game when you do something specific and it's
just it's it was really really cool. I've never seen
anything like that before on the big screen before. So
I that being said, I think a little too much
of that could be bad, but I think there was
just the right amount that they threw in here and
you got something there, Travis.
Speaker 2: And that's when you're talking about I've ever seen that before.
Speaker 1: There's never been anything like that before, like the Table
of twenty four, but it's so.
Speaker 6: Disc it's waste level a couple of times, Oh, they.
Speaker 2: Had lots of waste level cameras.
Speaker 1: But it's funny seeing this now but now seeing the film,
you exactly know how that works when it's designed for right,
because I think in their discord, we're like, oh.
Speaker 2: Why so many of this and that? But then the
second thing we have is like, oh, that's you know, well,
you know cool, or you know, it might have been
some overuse, but still it's uh, right away.
Speaker 6: Gorilla filmmaking. That's bullshit, that's not gorilla film.
Speaker 4: I say, that's gorilla No, that's not gorrilla film. Thrillilding
your own like platform and putting cameras on it.
Speaker 5: The I phones are like cheap and they just like
you fall out of like a cereal box, but expensive.
Speaker 6: We don't have that movies.
Speaker 1: The definition of gorilla filmmaking is like The First Evil Dead,
where it's Bruce Campbell, Sam Raim and a few friends
and they're out there for days like legit animally getting
like hypothermic because they're so fucking cold. They got no budget.
Like that's like there, this is still a movie from Sony. Yeah,
like that's I would not say it's gorilla making. It's uh,
you know, I don't know again because remember how this
was pitched. It's just an iPhone and everything we've seen
from this, it's not just an iPhone. You know, I
appreciate it, but it doesn't make anything less cool just
saying not it's.
Speaker 2: Not grilla making.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 7: The other thing that I really really liked about this
is the amount of world building that it's done. You
don't get a lot of that in Zombie Flix. I know,
these aren't zombies, they're they're people that are infected, but
that being said, you don't get that kind of context
in those types of movies, and it's just it's really
neat to see them not lay it down on you,
but you just you're going through the narrative and it's
just sprinkled in and I really appreciate that because that
you just get these little tidbits like notes like oh something,
this person says, oh something that's going on here, and
then you can just look at the overall world that
is existing here and with a couple more introductions, this boom.
Speaker 4: Okay. You know, you know, generally certain limitations certain I
don't want to say that because that's a spoiler, but
I'm excited.
Speaker 7: I'm excited to break this down because there's just there's
so much in here that I feel like people are
not expecting and it's it's a really, really good time
and I definitely recommend it.
Speaker 4: You should go see this in theaters. Absolutely, Well, there
you go.
Speaker 2: We a lot of recommendations. Anything else.
Speaker 1: Non spoilers shut out, Yeah, going once, going twice, Sold
to the lady in the White gloves.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after the sad break.
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Speaker 1: That's gonna be quite the whiplash effect from watching you know,
two movies I haven't seen before or twenty years later
two of that. But uh, I don't know I about
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final warning if.
Speaker 2: Anyone's curious, this is a spoiler. Walson. Now.
Speaker 1: From now on we're gonna be talking about everything that
happened this film. So oh Taylo's fingers going. But I'm
gonna throw to Kirkland first.
Speaker 7: Well, speaking of people that are not in this movie,
and unless I forgot all, I miss it, uh Killian
Murphy was not in here.
Speaker 2: I was. He was the one hanging upside down, the
bag over his head.
Speaker 4: That was him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a tattoo on his shoulder.
Speaker 4: You fucking trolling me, man, This fucking guy.
Speaker 6: The Alpha.
Speaker 5: You got the steroid, the one in like the flower Field. Uh,
that's what everyone thought that Spike kills right, yeah, him.
Speaker 2: He's not it and he's not him. I wasn't sure
if he heard you not.
Speaker 1: Danny Boyle confirmed when we're getting Killing Murphy, so that
is that's out there. So but it was known before
that was not this one. I think he was smart,
even though I'm sure not all the gas like one
star no Killing Murphy, but he did. I can't remember
where they screened it first. They did someone where they
screened the first twenty minutes later, you know, fun but
he said like, yeah, just the temper expectations, like killing
is not in this movie, and he has revealed when
he is coming the series and whatnot, so okay, see
it's soon enough.
Speaker 3: So they had to choose a Killian Murphy looking zombie
for all the marketing.
Speaker 6: Remember over the posters.
Speaker 1: I saw a tweet where one was like, man, for
two days, everyone thought this was Killing Murphy. How does
Killy Murphy feel about that? You know, like like and
I get it.
Speaker 5: Because he's looking like a decrepity.
Speaker 6: He's just getting gains.
Speaker 1: Ever since first look at a skinny zombie and was like, yeah,
that's that must be Killian Murphy.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, no, no, Killian Murphy. We start off
with uh, I guess is village is right? What would
you call this place where they are town? Village, community,
Hamling the community.
Speaker 5: I don't like him by the shire, uh island people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have a name. I can't remember.
Speaker 6: But anyways, like Jimmy's town, is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy talking about you know.
Speaker 4: Mmy, No Holly Island.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, let's circle back. Let's circle back we will.
Speaker 1: How about let's talk about the beginning thing when we
get to the end, because that kind of shut Jimmy. Yeah,
the Jimmy stuff, you know, little Jimmy. But the after
the beginning when we meet our main characters, Jody, you know,
I can't even remember their name names. Now there was Samp,
there was Ice, and then what was the kid's name?
Speaker 2: Again, I forget that. I don't know.
Speaker 3: To be fair, I needed subtitles for this movie. I
feel like I missed a lot of the dialogue.
Speaker 4: Like the thick accents are nice though, But anyway, it.
Speaker 6: Was like Spike for a long time.
Speaker 1: It's a but Yeah, we start off in this community
where it is seemingly uh, there is life.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a bunch of people around.
Speaker 1: There's people I guess jobs are cooking, you know, people
are seem living happily. And Spike he's woken up by
his dad and okay, today's day and we kind of
figured where this was going to the trailers and you know,
he's gonna go hunting. But is there anything I think
we kind of seen, like saw some of this community
stuff in the trailer, but was there anything things specifically
before we get to like the big stuff about this
that you wanted to bring up or move forward or
I Yeah.
Speaker 5: One one thing I'm curious how you guys felt about
this is like, I you know, as a lot of
this movie is we're getting it for like from the
perspective of a Spike as you were talking about of
like you know, getting the tutorial of the world and
all that, but there's a lot of stuff with the
town that was just super weird and felt kind of
culty And I didn't know if they were trying to
reference back to like the beginning sequence and like the
church and this guy having like this kind of radical
view of things, but like like especially like the party
when he comes back. Obviously the like they're feeding them
alcohol and stuff, which makes him sick, but like it's
just over stimulating. He doesn't seem to be into it
at all. We get like the old guy cruising around
and like the mask, and then we get like weird.
You know, Curtly, you're talking about like some of those
crazy shots just edited in the middle of nowhere, and
we see various mask shots and stuff. So I don't know,
I felt like they were trying to make the town
like unsettling to a certain extent, but then other times
it's like a jolly old time, like when they're first
walking out of the town and everyone's like, oh, Spike,
it's a big day and there's like a guy showering
in the street, and everyone seems happy and good. So
it did seem like a weird kind of mixture of
like super weird CULTI vibes and then just like, actually
this is.
Speaker 6: Pretty normal, yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: I I I definitely got the vibe more so as
we I think just spent time like amongst the other
people in the town, I mean, especially highlighting the uh
like the party at the end. It was giving me
like midsomar vibes, which is like like the tapestry even
like our our land are whatever it was. It just
had like a slogan where it's like this is this
is strange and yeah it h I did like just
the initial like world building of the town, like like
when they're first leaving and you just have those signs
everywhere of like reminder like we're short, like you know,
take what you only what you need. That one guy's
just showering in the it's like trying to take too
long of a shower.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 3: I just like all those little messages throughout, and I
mean it just was cool to see like this town
not just in like the early stages of its formation,
like it's it's it is pretty established here. So yeah,
it definitely reminded me of Last of Us, but it
felt like just a more established town. I mean, defense wise,
way better strategically they have like a perfect spot.
Speaker 6: It's just way better.
Speaker 2: Way yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Also gonna un till later, but some of the views
they got going on in that place, my god, you
know there's a beautiful skylight. Yeah, and I just feel
like there's a bit more fun going on there, which.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see if that leaves anything bad.
Speaker 1: But Yeah, I'm curious because what I loved about this
and we're gonna tell us throughout the movie we talked
about in twenty eight weeks later, we're like, Oh, they
set up this great family drama, what they're gonna do
with it? And they didn't really do anything with it?
Were this movie that's all it is is family drama
of course with like the rage monster everything, but that
is like a through line between the son, the mother
and the father and then other stuff that's going on. Right,
But that's what I'm curious about, is none of the
drama was Oh because that community does this?
Speaker 2: You know, Uh, what's ray fines is They're like, oh,
you're from there.
Speaker 1: Like there was no signs whatsoever of this place being
shady other than the camera and like some scenes telling us, hey,
some stuff is a little messed up here. I don't
know if I need like supernatural or power telekinesis, but
I was wondering with Spike's dream there that felt a
little weird. So I'm starting to wonder if there's something,
if he can sense something that is off with the
town that we haven't learned yet, because he has a
dream where it's covered in red and his mom's in
the fucking lake and her head's just bobbing around and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, looking like the cover of the first movie, which
was kind of a fun little connection.
Speaker 1: So that's why it's like is and that's a lot
of time when we saw some that stuff is from
his perspective, whether he was sleeping or wait, you know,
like daydreaming in the middle when he's like watching Guard
and he gets that. So that's why I'm wondering if
it's something with him. Uh But like I said, nothing
is in this movie relaying to that. But that's where
I'm gonna wait for the second because that wasn't a
big concert. Okay, I'm curious, but I feel like that
is stuff that maybe the second we'll get to because
obviously at the end we meet another faction that maybe
there's some issues between factions or communities or whatnot, because
the only other person we met was Ray Fienes and
he's just kind of definitely and again I can't even
judge that because he's definitely doing his own thing. Feels
like he didn't care about anything. He's he's gonna help
you out, and so maybe not a good person. Where
the people we meet at the end, probably a bit
more in tune to what's going on with everything, right,
because even even the way I was wondering, Air Johnson
was asked like acting kind of shady when Spike's like, Hey,
what's going on?
Speaker 2: Mom? Is she dying?
Speaker 1: And the fact that when tell her is like, okay,
what is going on with her? But obviously we get
to reveal later that. I don't think it was a
secret because they were mischievous. I think it's a secret
because like he's just protecting his son. So that's where
I don't know. Well, I guess we'll find out maybe
as we go along.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, there's there's a lot of
like hints to something like that, like like just I'm
gonna call it like a power essential. I feel like
definitely I got that from Spike. But even the mom honestly,
I thought that was gonna be going like a specific way,
like she is some sort of infected or like some
yeah yeah, or like like some sort of because like
there's many moments where I mean, she's going through confusion
multiple times throughout. We find out why that is later on,
But I thought it was just gonna be like she's
in and like she's hearing like it sounds like radio
waves or like frequencies, and it's just like what is
going on with this lady? And there's just many moments
where it just seems like she's being guided by something,
and then we get you know, led later on when
she births that baby, it just seems like she's drawn
to it, and then it just never really like nothing
comes out of that at all, and then she's just
you know, Ray Fines brings out her skull here, put
her down, put her down, son, and then that's just
the end of the character. So I'm really hoping there
is something there because if not, it just seems like
a really convenient way of like, well, the mom was
just there to birth the baby, and there is no
explanation why that was. She was just the right time
at the right place, And personally, I don't really like that.
So I'm kind of holding my breath on that.
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say you said that it's all
there was that. I mean, they didn't just decide to
put her down. You didn't mention that she had like
brain cancer or what?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: I alluded to it, okay, like story stuff, but like, yes,
that that like just the human side of like you know,
the what's the term Rafines called the momentous morales, saying, yeah,
all of that beautiful, and yes, I was getting choked
out with it with like just when with the Sun
realizing that he's losing his mom, and it was a
really beautiful scene. But just for like progressing the plot,
I thought she was gonna be like a really key
figure and I don't think she was, even though like
for character growth, I guess you can make that argument,
but for telling the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she was key to I think she'll
be key to Oostly Spike in many ways with the
way she was raised. And also we didn't get more
with that rage baby mother because obviously she got shot
to shit and she did look like she's gonna attack,
but like that's still gonna be a window to like, Okay,
what else more is there? But I guess for me,
I really like that because the whole movie never thought cancer.
Speaker 2: I'm think, okay, what like you said, is shake care,
what's this? And everything?
Speaker 1: But that's where I like, when they sit down, Refine
just says like, oh, we're all gonna die. It's just
many different ways, right, And you kind of think about
that where there's all the stuff going on. You could starve,
you could get killed by an alfas cock, you could
like get lost and drowned.
Speaker 2: But this was just like, no, she got sick, and unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Now we're in a world where you can do nothing
about it and you just kind of have to accept it.
And at least now she's gonna, i'd say, get a
pretty pain free death because you know, probably didn't feel anything.
Ray Fine puts her down and then she's kind of
moralized that. That's what I guess it worked for me,
was it worked enough for Spike. But I just love
that it was as simple as cancer because I was like,
I wouldn't even thought that.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking so much big picture, but it's like, no,
still in this shitty world, the same shit that happened
twenty years later or twenty years ago, it can happen here.
And you're like, and it seemed worse because there is
no treatment. There's nothing there. And yeah, that whole sequence
when the sun got shot and then she got shot
with darts.
Speaker 1: If people are for some reason listen to Spoison and
see the movie, it's like to make them, you know,
at ease. It's you know, numbing them and getting them
a little high and stuff. But that moment where it's
just like she's holding Spike and then Spike's holding the baby,
Jesus Christ, you know, I was ready to go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think I think that sequences is well,
not the sequence, Like the whole movie building up to
that is really great. Like even the first scene when
Spike and APJ are just in the in the kitchen
or yeah, in the kitchen having breakfast, and at one
point you hear here's like wailing and smashing the walls
a bit, and it's like that just sounds like an
infected up there are they just like walking her up
until there's like a cure and then they're gonna go
pup out a cure and so like obviously they're hinting
at it as early as that moment, and then there's
just various sequences throughout where she's acting a bit odd,
she's acting off, which you know very much ties into
like the second movie and the mom in that movie.
You don't see a ton of her there. But when
they finally recover her from that house and bring her
back and she's locked up, she's acting strange, She's not
sharing a lot, and obviously like the mother connection between
those two characters, so I think they're trying to play
off that, and that's why I was wondering. It's like,
is she a carrier as well? And that's why she's
acting so strange? And is that gonna be the impetus
for war? How this village eventually goes to shit is
because I mean, I don't know. Presumably she's kissing ATJ
all the time, so it's not like she would transmit
it that way, but I don't know, maybe some other
way that would get transferred over to someone else and
that's what's gonna happen there. But obviously that's not what
the movie was doing. He was just setting it up.
And then even in that scene kind of when they
finally go on their adventure and they're sleeping for the
night and then like the crawler is coming up and
about to take him out, and then we kind of
get like, oh, I'm thinking it's probably the doctor who
saves them, and then they reveal it like thirty seconds later,
it's not too long where they reveal that it was
just the mom, and it was like, whoa that seems
really out of character for her. I didn't even think
she had that like amount of energy in her to
do something like that. And I don't know if that's
just like mother's instinct. Was that just like the rage
kicking in, like what was going on there? But I
think that was a really great shot to just throw
off the scent a little bit, like they did a
really good job of smoke screening the cancer behind obviously,
Like this is what this whole series is about to
this point.
Speaker 2: It's similar to the ending of the first movie where
they do the chillion right where they hide his eyes
you can't see when he's popping off the rage, the
same thing I thought when.
Speaker 1: That happened, Like, Okay, it's definitely what we talked about
twenty weeks later that maybe people are born or the
carriers are more often but we like, however, if they
eventually gets worse, it wears them down.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking, especially with the nosemen.
Speaker 1: They Okay, it's where this is like a slow burn
rage where now it's okay, if you get bit that's
a ten twenty second, but if you get born or
maybe infected this way, you could live with Like I
think we even talked about it like a cancer almost
in that second one of like you can live with
it for years, but eventually's gonna catch up to you,
you know so, But it didn't. It was just regular
old cancer that you can't you can't treat and everything.
Speaker 5: So it's something that I wonder, how like going back
to the first movie, if that was part of the metaphor,
like the layers of what this thing is supposed to
stand for. I was looking up afterwards, I just go
with like Alex Garland cancer because I'm wondering, like there
must be someone in like obviously cancer, like like if
you haven't been touched by cancer in some way with
someone else in your life, like you're incredibly lucky, Like
it's just so prevalent, right, and so if like a
lot of the take in here just felt very nuanced
to me, and it felt like you must have had
someone in his life who's affected by this. And then
when I googled that, all I saw was that a
bunch of people are saying that like Annihilation is like
a big allegory for cancer, which I haven't seen that movie,
but okay, maybe it's like material he's kind of dealt
with before. But I think one of the sweetest moments
of it that made me tear up for sure, was
when Spike is just kind of in those last moments
thinking back on her, and he's not thinking about those
moments when she's been aggressive or off or not like
the mom that he loves, but he's thinking about like
the goofy, little like hand things she did when they're
doing the like winky face thing. He's saying about like
those great moments, and that just reminded me a lot
of how I think about my grandma who died from cancer,
and I don't think about those moments those last few
months when she was in the hospital and like had
no none of her personality anymore. I think of like
the funny jokes she would do, or how she would
like sing and dance with like her Garth Brooks cut
out that she had in the living room.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: I think about like the fun like things about her
personality and not like these these moments that are kind
of sad and not like her. You know, it's like
that's when the cancer is taken over. So yeah, I
just I thought that was very nuanced, and maybe I
haven't seen like a movie about cancer in a while.
But I think that really hit me for sure, because
it was just bringing up some emotions I haven't felt
in a while. So yeah, once again, Travis, to your
point in the nonsplay, I was like, that's not what
I expected this movie to give me. So that was
like a really nice, surprising pivot, and I just thought
it was really well done. And yeah, tied in so
well with the material of what the first two movies are,
even if they didn't feel like that originally. So just
really really cool. Whether that was kind of planning from
the beginning obviously they didn't think they would make a
third movie twenty years later. Yeah, it's just cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And like I get why I won't thought
about there's multi reasons that after that, there's continuing ending
and whatnot. But I was partially hoping when he puts
her skull on the whole bone temple thing, but then
he turns it to face the sunset and pan out
and just him with his arm around the bones and
the skull and they're both in the sunset. I'm like, oh,
you should end the movie right here like that that shot.
And I get what they because I felt like the
last fifty minutes was really like, we gotta still make
money and make sure people want to come back, which
I get right, because this isn't like it's not Gorillaming,
but it is independent in a sense where it's like
the first one where it's independently funded but still somewhat
back by a studio.
Speaker 2: So I get that. But I was like, man, that
shot right there, like that's the show I'm thinking of
this year so far. But yeah, how do you take
the the mom's stuff Jody coolmore?
Speaker 7: Again, it was a curveball knowing that Okay, she is sick,
she has cancer. That was completely unexpected and I don't
think they alluded to the mom character and the trailers whatsoever.
So that was again a complete surprise, trying to catch
up to the idea that because she's freaking up a
freaking out upstairs, thinking like you guys highlighted, Oh yeah,
maybe she is infected.
Speaker 4: Maybe she's a carrier. Who knows what this village is
up to. You don't know yet. Uh.
Speaker 7: I had to tell myself, Okay, no, it's it's got
to be that something else like this village wouldn't keep
them like infected in here because that just goes against
your proper judgment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very very risky.
Speaker 7: So the idea though, that she is sick and you
get this emotionally send emotional send off moment between them.
Speaker 4: It was very unexpected. But yeah, it's a good reminder.
Speaker 7: Then.
Speaker 4: I like the messaging too.
Speaker 7: I can't remember the the Latin phrasing that they said,
but yeah, just the fact that I.
Speaker 4: Did left remember after that.
Speaker 7: It's such like aments, that's what you gotta remember, remember
that you'll die, and then you got to remember to
love and the two kind of go hand in hand
with each other. And yeah, I think everything everything with
Ralph's character was just fantastic. Rae Rae ray Fimes fine,
the doctor.
Speaker 2: It's Latin language.
Speaker 7: I I just thought he was fan and everything that
he had interacting with the mom and Spike was.
Speaker 4: Really really good. But yeah, the.
Speaker 7: Uh, the the concept of them dealing with dealing with
her sickness and just them trying to hide it. I
didn't get the sense that it was anything sinister or shady.
It was just the the the idea that okay, that
the dad didn't know how to handle this, to process this,
and I feel like we've seen this kind of story
in other movies where you're dealing with the sick wife
and the dad's out cheating or sleeping around or doing
something because you can't process it and whatever, And what
did you.
Speaker 2: Laugh about, Kirk? And what are you laughing on?
Speaker 6: It's just adult.
Speaker 3: It's just a funny series of events that that evening
because he's just well, you're taking me so done with
his wife.
Speaker 2: This guy, first of all, the Taylor, I don't know
why you made him sound like Ben Mendelssohn from a supernation.
Speaker 4: He was drunk and he had a different voice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta think about, man, what that guy goes
through in twenty four hours and hits the song, which
that's the lowest point of that character.
Speaker 1: I still enjoy the character from other point of that.
I was like, oh, man, now you've gone too far.
But gets thrown out.
Speaker 2: Of his own home.
Speaker 1: I would assume at some point goes back to try
and make good. Wife and son are gone, which when
that what was happening, when the sun set everything on
fire and.
Speaker 2: He's taken him, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 4: My god, laughing you're a giggling.
Speaker 1: Because I was like, this is fucking especially she's like
sometimes in the Cosmo, she's out there, it's like this
is super risky, Like this is probably one of the
worst people you want to have out there.
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, you can not perform well
on his trial run, you know. I was like Aaron
Taylor Johnson carried that first mission.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they they.
Speaker 1: Prompt him out, but still it's just like, Okay, fight
with his family, gets kicked out, goes back, family's missing.
And then next time you hear from your family, you
get a note from your son saying, hey, I'm not
coming back.
Speaker 2: Don't know when I'm coming back. Maybe one day. Your
wife's dead.
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, here's a baby named after your
wife as well, have a good one. And it's just like, man,
what a the if you thought this man was fucked
up before the particles that are blasting off in his
head right now, that's why he's just like looking like
Sam and Fellowship just yelling in the water at the end,
and yeah, I love that mo where he just like
he just just books it and gets to that door.
But no, that tide, that tide is too far out,
and he's just I love with each step he's like
falling is trying very far. No, no, no, that's that
tide is a big tide. And uh that's why I
love that.
Speaker 2: That's a it's a flawed character, but it's like a
shade's a great character. It's not.
Speaker 1: It is to the extent where we talked about in
twenty eight weeks later where they presented a like a
situation for that dad and we talk about what would
you do right?
Speaker 2: But then as time went on and it's like, Okay,
they think that.
Speaker 1: Character is very kind of, you know, just just allies
to the kids, kind of shitty to the wife because
oh I didn't mean to leave you. But at least
with Arthia Johnson, I feel like obviously he cares about
his son. I don't think he does not care about
his wife. I think it's just that he's stressed down.
They've probably not been romantic and really loving because like
there's a great moment when that happens and she throws
the stuff and she's mad and he walks away, I'll
go take care of him. Right before he goes to
the steps, he's like, he's like psyching himtuff, which people
can attest. I'm not saying, go cheat on your wiser's partners.
But I'm just saying, like people that have had to
look after people that are either whether it's cancer or dementia,
that stuff can wear anything. Especially again, this is a
situation where there's no medicine, no doctors. It is you, dude,
every day in a world that has raged monsters. You
have a kid, so it's like I can get all
that stuff. I think he went he got too far
a sweet argument with the sun where he's punching the
walls and he hit him.
Speaker 2: But the second he hit him, it wasn't like a yeah,
you shut your fucking mouth, kid, I'm your dad.
Speaker 1: It was like he right away recoiled. He was born here.
He's like, oh, I totally fucked. It's sounded like yeah.
So I don't love many Irrita Johnson performances or characters,
but this is one. Now I cannot fucking say as
Killy Murphy and now Spike, I can't wait to see
where ATG is in two like because the same thing.
Speaker 2: Does he feel like he has to take care of
this baby or is he like that's not my fucking kid, like,
but I don't know will he do it as like
a make good of like I failed my family, and
I can't fail this kid, Like I'm so interested, And
I thought they did a great job with that character
of very shades of gray all over the place.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, I think they They are kind
of playing in a couple of ways too, where when
you get that first scene when him and Spite go
out into the world and they eventually make it to
that house and there's a body hanging there from the
roof and the rafters, and that's when he's like, really,
you know, teaching him to kill this person or this
this raid manch what are you're gonna call it? And
he has that very specific line he's like, this thing
has no brain, no no heart, no soul anymore either.
Like he's very adamant this is not a human anymore.
And you know they're obviously playing out the personification of it,
because like there's a name written on this person's chest
and it's Jimmy's name. It's not this character's name, but like,
you know, making you feel like this is a human
and obviously he feels like, Okay, this is this person
is sick, this is not a person anymore. He makes
that total disconnection. I feel like they're playing you know,
obviously I would not expect him to feel the same
way about his wife that he does these rage monsters.
But I think that idea is there, like this person
is sick, this is not the this is not a
person anymore to me, And so I think that angle
of it is is cool. And once again like I, yeah,
I feel like he's maybe short changed a little bit
in terms of the ending here and in terms of
the doing one doing part one of it all, like, yeah,
it feels like part two is gonna be a lot
more in depth content for him, where he seems like,
you know, he's he's great to have in here as
like a shades of great. Yeah, for the whole movie
of different ways that people look at the world and
all that. So yeah, I'm I and you know, I
like him. I'm not traditionally big fan of him as
an actor, but I do think he was good here
for what he needed to do. I will say the
accent sometimes I could not understand a few of the
sentences he was saying, so I struggle that with subtitles
would have helped me out here. But yeah, Taylor, I
feel like you're atg fan number one. I feel like
you haven't talked about him a whole lot. So are
you were you jazzed by his performance here?
Speaker 4: I was really jazzed. I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 7: Though there was some stuff I could not understand what
he was saying, but for the most part, like that's
that's fine.
Speaker 4: I fun you get the gist of it. Yeah, I
I I love a lot of what he is in.
Speaker 7: I am definitely present for and I think he's he's
fantastic or since I saw kick asses like ATJ atj
Early the Jet Fuel the jet, so when you see
him in this movie and he's just dealing with all
these tribulations, it's pretty crazy. And I loved getting the
scene of them being out together in the woods and
just doing all this like it's a coming of age,
and I feel like you get these sprinkles of weird
flashbacks of soldiers fighting and different wars and stuff like that,
and it's just I think it's highlighting the again that
that coming of age and that masculinity and that passing
of the torch and this.
Speaker 4: Age old kind of like ritual tradition.
Speaker 7: Like when I was a little kid, I went out
into the woods with my dad and would go out hunting,
and it's just it's I feel like it's a very
ancient crawlers looking for crawlers, Yeah, eating the worms and shit, so.
Speaker 1: Huge voices, even showing all those wars, it shows that
even now, like it's an unthinkable situation, but these rage
Mantra zombies they're still using those same protocols, right as
far as like they have that lineup where they're old
age showing black and white footage of the arrows, and
then when they go to modern day they're doing the
same type of attacks with the arrows in the formation, right.
So it's to show like, Okay, there is stuff that
no matter what happens in the world, good or bad,
it's gonna stick through. Whether it's a method that you said,
the hunting, certain war tactics, especially now, you'd be doing
lots of those old war tactics because you're not like
the the sweden people or the French people. You don't
have assault rifles, and we actually.
Speaker 6: Go for the Sweden or the French people.
Speaker 2: And I love that we actually saw both him and
the Sun run out of arrows in this It wasn't
a legoless situation. Yeah, behind them, there was always stuff
going on. It was like no and a night one,
they're like we're out. We're like, we're just gonna have
to get to shore the tie and just.
Speaker 5: Risky too because the blood, yeah, toxic in this world. Yeah,
that's that's a good point because I was wondering what
the heck those scenes were really meant to meant to
be about. And I feel like there's another scene too
that I was kind of confused about. Now I feel
like they're connecting a bit in my head, which is
when they're in that same field and she and the
mom is looking out at that giant like angel statue
and she's talking a lot about time travel and she's like, ah,
it was like this hundreds of years ago when we
were here, and it's like, what are you talking about?
But I think that, yeah, there is kind of this
connectivity of like this endless cycle to it. And obviously
there's a bit of a cycle too of like the
baby being named after the mom, who you know, was
born like a couple of days after she died or
a couple of days before she dies. So yeah, I
just feel like there's definitely a lot of cyclical stuff
going on here.
Speaker 7: Well, you get I was just say you get two,
you get two journeys between the Spike and the dad
and Spike and the mom, and you get one that
is based in savagery, and you get one that's based
and more like civility and like, uh like stillness, like civilization,
that kind of thing. And I think those two, those
two play a heavy part in this story because it's
it's people that are trying to reclaim their civilization and
in this town, and you got you have the outside
world in the mainland, which is just savagery and killing
and all this crazy shit. So there's a line between
the two there.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's why, like when Dylan was talking about
you know, Airti being like, oh souls has no mind.
That's where you jump to the scene where you have
the pregnant rage monster and the mother's intuition is to
help it give birth to this Now it did because
I was curious what was gonna happen next, if they're
gonna give the baby back to her or what was
gonna happen. Look like, the second that thing was born,
the monster is gonna go back into killing, but it's
still there's some sort of giving life for even someone
that's that far gone this rage monster. But then at
the same time, uh, like we're just talking about with Erton,
Johnson's probably looking at the mom being like, well, it's
probably best at she because even the kid calls me
all like, you're just are you waiting for her to
die any kind of is right, Like I think he's
probably there's nothing he can do for and she's getting
worse and worse. But they've come to the same conclusion
because once the mom gets that confirmed the cancer, she's
down to take her own life and kind of do
eth in Asia, right, So that's where it's Again, they
have very different mindsets when they went on the journey,
but their conclusion kind of similar as far as if
you got to put something down, you probably should for
the best of it, right.
Speaker 2: So that's where it's.
Speaker 1: You know, it's tough because I was really curious, like, oh,
after this adventure, I can't wait to see the scene
between those two, but we don't. We're obviously never getting
that scene. So maybe with the sun at some point,
but yeah, it's gonna be interesting what happens. And uh, yeah,
we got pregnant rage babies or that again that I
don't know if that baby's a carrier. Now they say
it's just completely fine.
Speaker 2: What the deals.
Speaker 1: We talked about that again too, as far as okay,
how does this thing continue?
Speaker 2: They're looking lot of them are looking pretty scared. We
gotta calm.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what is going on with the
big bloater ones, you know, because we have tons of
them that are super skinny and it's probably like food
is sparse. But then you have these ones that are
quite large, so I feel like they would be eating
a lot.
Speaker 2: That's what I understand.
Speaker 7: You're yeah, you're dealing with some that are skinny and
starving and who knows, maybe like they break an ankle
and they just they can't make it. They're laying in
the in the flower fields and they just can't do
shit all. And then you've got other ones, which I
think if you look at twenty eight weeks later and
you got the dad in there, I think that's like
an example of an alpha.
Speaker 4: And in this obviously it's years later.
Speaker 7: These alphas are like a step ahead of the curb
on many many levels. And then they're talking about how
the virus has steroids in it, so there's another little
piece of the east egg. While they're so big and
like heavy muscle and what on, big cog they got
some fucking biagraa in there and then on top of theids.
So when you're dealing with the big chubs that are
just crawling on the ground there, I thought that was
interesting because you're dealing with you got the male that
they killed, then you got the female, and then you
got the little baby one too, So it's like, okay,
they're they're able to get pregnant because they're still humans.
Speaker 4: There are one hundred percent humans. They just are infected
with a virus.
Speaker 7: So they get pregnant and they give birth, and then
the wold talk about the placenta is very interesting and that's.
Speaker 4: What the doctor's.
Speaker 7: But again I'm not super well versed on on how
the body is and whatnot though, but I do know, okay,
with the placenta, you're dealing with an evolved human uh
internal body part that has developed to help protect the
baby from viruses and infections the mom might get. And
so it's evolved to this stage and that's not that's
not just the movie saying that's a real thing.
Speaker 4: It protects the baby from infections.
Speaker 7: So I think, okay, at this point, this is their
corporate hand the story, which I thought was really cool.
So I'm willing to believe that the baby is not
a carrier. But I would love it if they were
to build off that a little bit and be like, Okay,
this there is some immunity involved with this.
Speaker 5: I feel like there could easily be like a cure
embedded in that in that baby's like blood, you know,
like I could see that being a connection, but I
could also see it not being that, And I don't
think i'd be disappointed.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 5: I feel like it can just be a baby for
the sake of being a baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's tough.
Speaker 1: Like, I we only got chapter one so far this trilogy,
but I feel like, unlike the first two, less of
the first one, I feel like the goal of this
trilogy is not to find a cure to like to
end it. Like I feel like it's just like, okay,
this is like a three story in this world. You know,
I still two things, like I'll walk with the Plaseta thing.
This one's a hard like jump for me. Still, Like, yeah,
I get the placent and does a lot of things,
but this is like this feels like this is a
nuke and then speaking of nukes, the other thing is, again,
I'll never believe that the world would not nuke this place.
They did set up that in the beginning. Okay, it's
just still quarantine. It's by itself. They like even before
the film they often mentioned like, oh yeah, the thing
that happened in France, they just got rid of it
right away, like they contained it, killed it, and it
was done. That clearly was like Danny Boyle being like, yeah,
we didn't put that in our movie.
Speaker 2: Cool shot, but like we're not going to France, so
they contain that.
Speaker 1: So it's just again this area. So I still think,
like I guess the human thing is you're letting them
live their whole like shier life.
Speaker 2: But still I feel like everyone would be worried of
like what I a boke like anything? Right, Like, I
just don't.
Speaker 3: Believe nowadays people would be swimming across that channel with
their fucking YouTube yeah fling.
Speaker 2: No fucking way.
Speaker 1: No to me, there's no way the world we live
in now, boys, honestly, this is a fake universe, but
there's no way it would not be destroyed, destroyed, destroyed.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's fine. I'll walk with them.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's definitely gonna be part of
it where That's why when we first got they revealed
that there was like a big fire out in the
distance before we knew is the doctor. I was wondering to, Oh,
are these creatures evolving and like they've invented fire and
we're going through like the history of human kind here. Yeah,
but I feel like that is part of what we're
seeing here with these different types of like the alphas
have evolved so that they can like catch these animals
that like these deer and stuff that run really fast
and catch them without you know, having weapons or anything.
They just have to catch them.
Speaker 6: With their own two feet.
Speaker 5: But like even the crawlers, like I couldn't tell the
crawlers were because they're kind of bloated like a corpse
or something. So I don't know. These ones like died
and come back to life and obviously like you know,
eating like worms and like crawling around the ground is
like I guess that's maybe just a way of survival,
Like it's using less energy because it's just crawling instead
of using its whole body. But yeah, like we're seeing
them kind of evolve in like a pretty short amount
of time compared to how long it takes to actually
evolve like in the in the real world Darwin style.
So yeah, I mean, who knows. Maybe they'll yeah get
swimmers at some point and then they can make it
out to the other parts of the world. But that
might be twenty eight centuries later. I don't know how
long that was.
Speaker 2: We won't see that one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe maybe in a couple of centuries if they've
come back to the series.
Speaker 3: Just getting back to the whole placenta thing. I I definitely.
Speaker 5: That's gonna be only in this movie can we have
that transition.
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a thing like in this universe.
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, that's a tough one to sell for me, honestly,
because like, like so they're setting up that the infect
it could just give birth and like grow their colony
that way.
Speaker 6: Like is that what that means?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I would say, okay, like because.
Speaker 3: Like what happened, Jody Komer doesn't deliver that baby, the
mom bursts, it gets crazy again, and then just eats
her baby because the baby's not infected, Like I think
the baby would.
Speaker 2: Become affected and then like yeah, grow to be infected, like.
Speaker 7: They would bite the baby and yeah, the baby, that child,
I don't think it's gonna Again, we haven't seen at
most we we've not seen enough of just what this
their colony is doing. Of these infected we've seen them.
They're in the river, they're trying to grab fish, and
they're trying to survive. And that's one of the things
they were trying to highlight. Okay, how does something like
this move on from uh just that that scene where
they all died out from starvation. Okay, well years ago
by some have gotten smarter. You have the alphas that
can kind of corral a few of them together and
then get them into this river where okay, yeah, let's
just like collect fish and just start eating it. And
then yeah, they're there's still living, breathing things. That's the
thing that there's makes them separate from the zombies. They're
not rotting corpses. Well, some of them are obviously rotting
flesh for sure, but they're not like reanimated rotting corpses
that are decaying and decaying. While some will die, the
other ones that are still strong. There there's plenty of food,
there's lots of deer when you got on alpha killing
a deer for you and letting like takes the head
and let's the rest of his posse like keep the thing.
Then okay you have you have that kind of hierarchy.
You got the food source. And so that Alpha is
gonna you know, fuck who he wants or whatever, like
no no hold backs or drawbacks.
Speaker 4: They're having rage sex.
Speaker 5: So as Sunset Crossover, honestly, some of the shots were
reminded me.
Speaker 1: Of kudos to that man when he was running that
train station. That cock was everwhere, that cock was. That's
the biggest cock I've seen.
Speaker 5: The reason they got Jason Momoa to do that, how.
Speaker 7: Do you think they cast like we need a man
with the biggest cock around or do they just say, okay, man,
here you strap this on.
Speaker 2: I think this is gonna sound weird, but I don't
know for sure. He could suffer from giantism.
Speaker 1: And the reason I know that's because the rest of
the big show people had said that before, Like he
says some audientism, but everyone's like, but his cock is
fucking I had always heard about that, that.
Speaker 2: His cock was massive.
Speaker 1: And this guy, this guy, this man in this movie
to me, is not body builder big. He is like
a different like he is an alpha love. So I
do bet he'd been probably look.
Speaker 5: For movie magic, you know, like Gandalf's tall as fuck,
but like he's not actually right.
Speaker 2: No, I bet this guy, especially.
Speaker 4: iPhones iPhones making his cock.
Speaker 2: That I think he's like a really obsessive he's like
it was.
Speaker 1: It was right there the whole audience too, especially there
were some young girls in our crowd that you can
just see them like looking around, like what's happening right here?
Speaker 2: Like I don't think they're expecting big nudity at that point.
Speaker 1: But no, I think he's like a Paul White under
the giant, that he's someone that and not suffers from
a giant people live on to be could be sixty
eighty whatever. It's just like it is technical a disease, giantism.
But all his features were very big and elaborate, like
his his hands, everything about him.
Speaker 2: He was a massive guy. Like this is a guy
like in real life, he is a guy.
Speaker 1: I realized you need like fucking twenty dudes to take down,
like he's messing you up no matter what. One dart
from doctor whatever, yeah, or one well play start.
Speaker 5: Which you know Samson.
Speaker 1: Oh, Samson, that's how they took down the Big Show
one time in wrestling. They shot him with the darn
and shaved his head to embarrass him.
Speaker 3: So, and this guy was in Gladiator two he played
us and he was also in Cradle the Hunter and
he just played he just played Stuts.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, what's his name? Shout him out?
Speaker 6: Shouts out to Chee Lewis Perry.
Speaker 2: Was a superhero draft Man. That's the next Batman right there.
You know, no one's fucking with that Batman. David Cornsan's
gonna see him be like, oh my.
Speaker 6: God, there's no pants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the cod piece, No, the codpiece on that
just massive. But uh, let's take an out of break
and we'll be right back. And we are back.
Speaker 1: Someone wanted to say before I forgot about it again
with the air Terry Johnson. Uh, in a weird way,
he did spare that like younger blow or one, which
I wasn't expecting because like he sees it the sights
and it's certainly he doesn't do it.
Speaker 2: So again, that's why I like this still show. There's
maybe certain lines because that was even though it's a
kid bloat or thing.
Speaker 1: It's like it's still you know, rage effect, like it's
still we're probably killing you for given the chance, right,
and it.
Speaker 4: Ran off, which is another interesting thing.
Speaker 2: Quick.
Speaker 7: Yes, there there's a few moments where they they emphasize
that these things are again evolved, obviously what you see
their different hierarchies in their classes. But when they're inside
that building and he wants Spike to shoot and execute
this one hanging there, and uh it it's it's the
dad is basically saying like, oh, you know, these things
don't have a soul, YadA ya dad. It cuts to
the thing's face and it does a weird mouth kind
of like gasping behind the bag, like you're almost like
it is terrifying, but it's in a way of like, Okay,
I doubt that it understands what the dad's saying, but
it almost it's like they implied that this thing could.
Speaker 4: Detect the hostility. And you see the way that these.
Speaker 7: Things are watching them and the way that they've been
react it's like they've hit a certain stage of civility
in their own sense.
Speaker 1: Even the thoughy triest if I added that, right, you
can make an argument that airt Johnson's consoleate you gotta
kill this thing on a kill saying that's when the
things get worked up and once right back. And that's
where it's like, I could believe it's almost something that
I'm not gonna say in.
Speaker 2: Three movies from now they're stand up speaking everything.
Speaker 1: But if it kind of evolves and gets even like you,
there's like I don't want to say a tolerance because
I don't think someone could build a tolerance in a
sense right where it doesn't infect their mind that much
and there has to be.
Speaker 2: Some slight of humanity left because even then it felt
like the birthing scene again, she was definitely gonna chow
that baby right away, but in that moment while she
was given birth, it felt like there was still some
humanity for her to still grab a hold of Jody
Komer's hands for support and give birth the baby.
Speaker 5: That's we're powering through past the virus.
Speaker 2: So that's why there's still something in there with them,
and that's why maybe when we started this in twenty
eight days later, that wasn't there, right. That was the
instant shot like, no matter what, you're just raised, there's
nothing left. Few were now it's like even if there's
like two percent, there's something something in there, you know,
but I don't know. That's fascinating.
Speaker 7: On on the note of the alphas, the h like
the when they first introduced the the initial one and
he was just standing on the hillside and they.
Speaker 4: Were, oh, great shot.
Speaker 7: They did this weird kind of sideways panoramic like skew
where they looked like it was almost like three dimensional
emplacement where I was standing with them with the tree
it was so cool and eerie. And then with the
sunset and then just watching out the the from the
loft of this house and it's just standing there so.
Speaker 4: Fucking eerie and freaky.
Speaker 7: Yes, but yeah, just that scene one ups itself when
you know, it felt like it was great, everything was good,
and they're running across the the beach courtay yeah, and
then all you hear.
Speaker 5: Is just the talkers.
Speaker 4: Holy ship.
Speaker 6: And I was on a loss from oh yeah, Hunter
running that.
Speaker 2: Was crazy, right.
Speaker 7: What he gets there and they like they they fucking
spear him and he goes, oh Jesus.
Speaker 5: You have like full on Nebulas in the sky too.
It makes it feel like a sci fi movie for
a moment there, like we're in space, the reflection off
the water and just like when they do those super
zoom ooat shots and you just see like the puddles
splashing going through like the different kind of checkpoints that
they have set up there. Yeah, that shot was I mean,
almost every action sequence in this had me on the
edge of my seat because I think what the first
two movies set up pretty well is that like anyone
can die, and these movies like no one's safe, and yeah,
maybe there's like interviews like oh yeah, this guy's in
the next movie, so you could have deduced that because
we know there's like a direct sequel coming out, but
I didn't really know any of that. So I'm like,
any literally, any single one of these people could die
at any moment, even the kid in this because very
early on in this movie, like seventeen kids get slaughtered
in room watching Teletubby. So yeah, it feels like no
one's safe, and I think that's what adds to the
tension of this compared to other series where you feel
you're like, oh, yeah, obviously these three have like plot
armor and they're gonna make it through, but that's not
necessarily the case.
Speaker 2: Well, and even with the whole bridge thing.
Speaker 1: It felt like I'm sure that's happened before, but I
just didn't get the impression from everyone talking about the
rules that oh, constantly these things like run up on us,
we gotta fight, Like I know there's a gates. I'm
sure it has happened, but this just felt like death
con five of not only is one of these things
running after you, but it is an alpha and they've
said like, oh, this will take at least twelve arrows
to kill it. Obviously was shooting it. They had to
shoot like that big fire. You know, what are those
called bas steels right like they have the Limniver. Yeah, Blissa,
thank you, like a mini version of that. But that
to me, like I don't know for sure, because I
think there's a lot of great scenes this movie, but
right now I.
Speaker 2: Think for Golden I have that in my mind is
like anominy.
Speaker 1: That just because it goes from that high to yeah
we're going home to just looking back and that thing
is trucking. Like you said, Dylan, I love just the
glimmering of the moonlight when you see it's just it's
so good. And again, I guarantee you someone could look
at that scene I'd be like, there's too much going
on there, like the glimm of the moonlight, the northern
stars type of look like the big thing.
Speaker 2: Really, it's like it seems.
Speaker 3: Like he's so close to them and they're like halfway
and I'm like, they're not making it.
Speaker 5: Come on now, And then the lady of the gate
is really dragging her heels, which makes sense, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's great because that's where it's like, that's
where it helps seeing those other movies because you know, oh,
she's waiting for that twenty seconds because that's the peak
of if they're gonna turn.
Speaker 2: It's ten to twenty and she's waiting and he's like,
look at her eyes.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know how it goes, but and
what a great shot from that they fall on the
ground to then it's just Anertaino Johnson fucking plaster, just
like wait dead, Like my son's the best, Like just
to show that for him, not that it wasn't a
big deal, but.
Speaker 2: He's just already over where the sun. That is a traumatic.
Speaker 1: His life has changed in multitudes where Anato Johnson's like
I'm gonna get drunk, I'm gonna fuck, I'm having a
good time. But yeah, that was a horrifying scene. I
did want to ask though, and I don't know, like
I said, if I'm on anything, because the some of
those visions, what do you guys take anything from anytime
the alpha's It didn't happen so much in the second half.
In the first half, the crows were moving wherever the
alpha was going, and that to me was curious.
Speaker 5: It seemed like scouts spots.
Speaker 2: They were bats at first, right with the first okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then they were crows later on.
Speaker 7: But I thought with the bats that were introduced, I thought, okay,
these bats, obviously animals can't get infected with this virus,
but they can still spread it through blood transmission, and
so feeding.
Speaker 2: Is that how it started?
Speaker 7: The monkeys they because they shared that similar kind of
DNA to us, I guess is the context. But no
animals have been infected. The crows aren't infected, nothing else.
The deer aren't infected, So that's something they highlighted as well.
So I thought for sure that these bats, if they're
biting infected, that they're gonna have blood on their mouths.
They're gonna go and bite humans. I thought they were
gonna hoard of bats are gonna go to Holy Island
and start biting people.
Speaker 4: I'll be like, holy fuck, Like this is brutal.
Speaker 6: I thought we were going into the Wizarding Realm.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I thought they were like, like the Alpha was
sending them to just ran this village.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you send them, but I guess there
could be something to it, unless they just say, ah,
now we thought looked cool, But it.
Speaker 5: Just mean that could be how you get this virus
to the mainland if they ever want to do that
in a sequel.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, like just how it goes. But I just
thought it was strange in the first act that happened
twice where there's an Alpha and there's things in the
air around and make said it didn't really happen later
on when they were like after ray fines and chase them,
so that kind of got dropped.
Speaker 1: But that was a different Alpha as well. So maybe
you could make a case that I don't know that
Alpha was in tune with fucking nocturnal like flying animals.
I don't know how that would be, but I thought
it was interesting. Note, but I very much love the ALFA.
Last week again, very video gamy. That felt like all
of a sudden's like, okay, here's your bloto type, here's
your quick day, and comes up with the bottom of
the screen.
Speaker 7: Yes, man, I thought they were safe on their little
bone Temple island. But when Samson's just charging cocking all
in there, it's like, holy fucking.
Speaker 3: Takes down a fucking skull with that thing, you see.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing where we're talking about the humanity.
I don't think Samson was there just to fuck everything up.
He was there to get that baby.
Speaker 4: Right, That's how I took it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which should not be the case if it's just
they're completely because before ray Fin's pretty much like yeah,
they don't really come around him that much. He created
that like rock bridge to like this, like so.
Speaker 6: She was carrying like the newborn on that bridge. I'm like,
oh no, this is so dangerous.
Speaker 2: Don't Eve get her hands way up there, like oh,
I don't worry, but like to keep them out, And
he's like, I can't get it. He made it sound
like no, like they don't like really like he could
not built this huge temple and all these kind of
like a graveyard for these people. If it's always getting
messed up, right, So that's where it's like, okay, and
that's where I think you and the baby have to go.
Uh but yeah, that's another interesting note of it. Won
that baby.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, even in the train, like, I don't
have ever seen an infected react to another one of
the infected, right being killed? Right, he picked it up,
her up, acknowledged her, And that's I can't think of
it another time we saw that.
Speaker 7: Right Yeah, no, yeah, that's the first. And you're gonna
be You're probably gonna see Samson again in the charges.
Speaker 5: Ready Taylor, Ready three? Oh yeah, glasses on quick quick shot.
There's a sequence that maybe this could segue into another character,
but where our crew, their spike and the mom end
up at a gas station. Man Chocolate Moose would have
been thrilled walking into that gas station showed out to
our top secret episode if you want to understand that.
But but yeah, I guess that could lead kind of
nicely into Eric, who's the one surviving navy. So we
see early. I think this is a nice connection. We
see early in the movie that like the boat cruising around,
they're like, well, who is that? It's a navy And
then he's like, oh, yeah, we crashed on something. I
think what they crashed on was like their little island bridge,
right that goes to the island.
Speaker 6: That's what I assume. What think?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's what the boat must have smashed into.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then yeah, we get that sequence, which I love
the set piece of that, like this canal or damn,
I don't know exactly what it was, but like them
all jumping in there, one of them like breaks their
leg on the way down. Then all this were the
infect that just kind of swarming in over top. And
then obviously this in fact they don't have to enter
through that one place, they can just start toppling in
from the random locations. I thought the intensity of that
was great. And once again just like super incompetent army,
then that like I have really bad technique, really bad tactics,
not any form of teamwork. That seems like they've never
actually been in a combat sequence before, so they're really
out of their depths. But yeah, that kind of leads
us into getting Eric, who's in there for like maybe
a good twenty minutes or so. As a little side characters.
Would you guys think of Eric?
Speaker 1: I was worried when he's introduced as a goal boy,
this could be like because he was he's a mile
a minute, he was joking, he was throwing out lots
of stuff. I just wasn't sure. I was happy for
the most part of how he was used. I'm still
a little unsure on his ending there because it felt
like he was kind of warming up to them and
then he went on to like death con like I'm
gonna just as you right here. I do get it
when he's like, oh, our things are to kill these people.
But he even said like, once you're on the signe,
you can't leave. So I just feel like, maybe you
go with now the new customs or the people, because
like this is your life now, dude, Like you are
living with these people, You're you're not going back. But
I thought there was some fun stuff killed in our theater,
which I will mention was very packed, which was crazy.
I think like packed them some more like the bigger
like Marvel and DC Star Wars. I guess we haven't
seen stars maybe in fucking years, but like some of
the bigger IP stuff, our theater was about seventy five
percent packed. I was surprised, but he killed it so
now it was fun and yeah it was a good
little I think you talked about it there, but almost
alluding to like twenty weeks later where some of those
soldiers were kind of dumb too, and the same thing
where he's talking like, oh, I could have been a
delivery driver.
Speaker 2: I'm this like now just being a.
Speaker 1: Quarantine soldiers just like a job, and she's like, yeah,
you're gonna go watch the island over there and just
make sure nothing funky's going on, you know.
Speaker 2: So liked the.
Speaker 6: Character, Yeah, I was. I'm glad it was short lived.
I was pretty.
Speaker 3: It was just like a dynamic where I'm like, I
don't need this guy in the crew, you know, moving
forward with Spike and the mother, and it's like what
would he have done when we got to the bone
temple and stuff. It's just like, no, this is not
what I what I wanted. I do agree. I think
his like switch came a little bit quickly, but I
guess it makes sense if he's just a trained soldier
and he just knows like all infected is a bad infected,
so you know, the only good bug is a dead
bug sort of mindset. I feel like he is just
that mentality, so it does make sense. The iPhone joke
definitely got me.
Speaker 6: He's like he's like, oh yeah, you got photos of this.
Speaker 2: I knew it was gonna be grown.
Speaker 6: I knew it the second Oh yeah, no it was.
Speaker 3: We got quite funny. So that one did get me.
But I don't know. I'm I'm happy the way it went,
but I was just I don't know, turn in my
seat when they were just running through the gas and
like they just didn't go down.
Speaker 6: Low like below the gas. Like I get it.
Speaker 3: The mom was going crazy, but like she shouldn't have
lived like she should have.
Speaker 6: She should have.
Speaker 3: Dropped dead in like four seconds, honestly, like with that
much density of like what was it Benzene just just
running around, just choking on it, like.
Speaker 5: She's not juggling.
Speaker 1: She was even Like again, you can suspend your disbelief,
but even if she's that far on the cancer, even
some of those hikes would have probably done her in,
you know, like when you when you were sick, like
you can't even make it to the fucking bath, mean
you know.
Speaker 3: And yeah, like I was suspending, suspending your disbelief, like man,
just the fact that baby didn't cry like once like no.
Speaker 6: New born.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that never came up. I thought that was
gonna be like, oh, the big thing, but they never
even the guy I thought, I thought that's why he
wanted to kill them, because he's like, we can't get
rid of that baby.
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, because it's gonna bring noise, Like, no,
I just kill all infected stuff.
Speaker 2: So no, great baby. But he didn't.
Speaker 4: He did say that.
Speaker 7: He did say like it's a pouting baby or crying
baby or whatever, because the baby was crying at the time.
Speaker 2: He did. But then he's like, if it's infected, we
put it down. It's like, I get it.
Speaker 1: But at the same point, again, that baby had no
milk either, so just going off water, which again in
real life, if a newborn does not have that protein,
they're gonna be fucking losers.
Speaker 7: I said too, like the baby's only got a couple
of days living off of water, and then like it
needs milk.
Speaker 1: No, I know it could survive, but I mean, like,
I don't think it would be as calm as that
that that child. That water would not be enough, especially
I'm gonna assume it's not getting the best nutrients from
the rage monster mother. It's not like a mass like
oh you get here's your guy, and here's what you eat,
and here's what you do. This thing we saw it's
in the river like shaking about. It's like it's not
going through a good time.
Speaker 2: So this baby, you know? And I guess do they
have animals on the community that they can get milk from? Oh? Yeah,
I just didn't see the cat.
Speaker 4: I thought they had some. I was on there and
they got pigs. Maybe you can milk a pig.
Speaker 1: I don't know where are they getting stuff? Like, I
guess where are they getting any of this stuff after
twenty years?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: I guess it's fully self sustaining at this point, with
like some awe, like a few exceptions, but then that's
what the tripe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like to me, wine is like where they getting that?
But I guess they're growing grapes and letting it fer
men and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: That would be crazy. I would not expect them to
have that problem.
Speaker 1: But there they were. A character was drinking wines. It's like, oh,
do they get stuff sent from.
Speaker 5: I kind of took that as like, this is a
rare time when they do this particular celebration, and maybe
they do come up with a lot of excuses to
have these celebrations as much as possible, but it seemed
like they kind of save it for the right moment
instead of just you know, busting out every night like that.
I th that's why everyone was going so crazy, because
it's like, oh, this is our Yeah, maybe do this
two or three times a year kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Captains covered top shelf stuff. I like the way that
we're setting up with the established village. In the beginning,
I thought there was gonna be like traders coming through
and stuff like that, and like other cities that they're
trading with. But we just never got that at all,
which was I don't know, a little bit disappointed in
just to see it's true. Yeah, I don't think Jimmy
is really strating with anyone. Just don't get that vibe.
Speaker 5: But I don't know, you don't get those clothes you
got very true.
Speaker 6: Yeah they were swagged out, that's true.
Speaker 5: Where to go back to the placenta, No, back to
back to Eric for a bit. I don't have much
stand the carrier. I did like him in there. I
think Kirkly you mentioned like he was in there for
just the right amount of time. If you put too
much more of him in there would have been like, Okay,
now we're dragging the movie down. But I think he
was fun. I think just what's so great about this
movie and the potential of this series is just getting
different characters world views, and he definitely has a very
war world view. And it's weird to like insert him
kind of where they do, because I feel like he's
he's a bit of like an exposition machine. He's kind
of explaining what the mainland is like and like what
a phone is, but it's like, as a viewer, we
know what a phone is, and then he and then
the kid is kind of sort of explaining what the
rules of this island aer like. But he also doesn't much,
so he's not giving him much information, which maybe that's
just kind of leading into how little they really know
about it, and that's I don't know, telling in and
of itself. But I thought he was fun to heaven
there as kind of like a shithead, annoying army guy.
I thought he actually had like a bit more personality
than we normally get for those types, and especially compared
to the first movie, which had a ton of those types.
And I consolutely think it was weird one of them
right now, even though I watched that movie a month ago.
But yeaheah. I liked him for the short stint he hadn't.
Speaker 2: Here well, even the even Brendan Gleese and the Dan
twenty twenty days there before, like the dramatics have happens
with him at the end.
Speaker 1: He's I think a pretty comedic relief character, right sure,
And I feel like this character is broad here for
this like fifteen to twenty minute arc because after him,
you're just.
Speaker 2: Gonna get a lot of heavy stuff.
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's why, Like, hey, let's let
the gap like the pedal off the gas a little
bit here. Like let's like, especially two, you're dealing with
Tody Comber, who's like going through a difficult situation.
Speaker 2: It's like even the stuff where he's carrying her and then.
Speaker 1: She starts to walk there your mom can walk this
whole time, like and the whole that stuff. Like, Yeah,
I think the movie needed, like let's get a little
levity because we're about to you know, give them on cancer.
We're gonna give birth this baby, We're gonna kill the soldier,
We're gonna have air to Johnson lose everything. We're gonna
have all this stuff go down. The Doctor's gonna be
chased by Sam. Like it's just one beat after another
of heavy, heavy, heavy stuff. So I think it works
in that way, just be like, okay, let's have him
have a couple of laughs, because this one's definitely twenty
eight weeks later.
Speaker 2: I don't think was that funny.
Speaker 1: I think they tried because it's not Danny Boyle and
no Ascar and they are missing that. Twenty eight days
is funny sometimes the point where it just feels so
weird when you just get into these situations or just
stuff that happens, and it's supposed to be like a
very dramatic movie, but at times it's almost slapsticky what's
going on? So I think that was kind of like
a good ode to the first one and be like, yeah,
remember that had some really weird stuff, Like even then,
it was kind of funny that we found them at
Like I I was wondering it didn't turn out to be,
but the way that building was shaped, I thought it
was gonna be that same building killing Murphy killed, like
that child rage thing, because it looked like that same
kind of like tee thing, but it wasn't because I
just saw like something burger and I remember him saying,
you want burger, So I thought, oh, was that that?
Speaker 2: And I guess maybe someone could point off it is.
But yeah, so I I enjoyed the laugh break.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Eric, I thought, Okay, a little too much
of this, it could get a little bit of exhausting
and really pull you out of it. But what we
got with this character I liked.
Speaker 7: I was laughing at the jokes, and I really really
enjoyed his introduction and showing, okay, where the modern world
is kind of at with things, and his viewpoint on
everything on this island and the stigma and the stereotypes
involved with it, because yeah, you can, like you guys said,
people will be going there with their their live streams
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: There'd be such a.
Speaker 7: Crazy dynamic and the real world of people just there's
a fact that there's an island, like yeah, like not
just an island, but it's the fucking United Kingdom like
that we've just disassociated the Yeah, like that's that's fucking huge.
And so for them just to be still be there,
you'd have conspiracies, you have all these different things going on,
and so I think it's just funny how you have
the stigma he's talking about, Oh, you know, you guys
are inbreeding and all this kind of stuff, and there's
just this real negative association with this island.
Speaker 4: And but if you get stuck there, you're on your own.
You're fucked.
Speaker 7: And so him coming in here and talking shop and
not knowing the rules either, because there's no proper training,
Like obviously the outbreak that happened in France was at
the beginning of all of this, right, Like, now we're
near thirty years later and we're dealing with a new
generation of soldiers that don't know. These guys don't obviously
have the discipline and they don't have much of the
experience to be dealing with the situation like this because
there's no boots on the ground missions, there's no one
going in here doing anything. And so as soon as
that gas station blows up, he's like, what happens?
Speaker 2: What doing it?
Speaker 7: Are more coming like what's going on? He doesn't know
the rules of or anything like that. They don't know
about the albums, they don't know about any of that,
And so that's why again he's laughing at the idea
and Spike is telling him about alphas and stuff like
that and just thinking like like it's calling it some
of their term vikings whatever.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 5: I mean, even Eric like at one point he like
just calls them zombies, and so I feel like, you know,
the perspective he's probably coming in with is like thinking
about what we see zombies often on TV and stuff,
which is like just slow lumbering like brainless creatures. But
obviously at twenty years is a long time and yeah,
like it's been a long as time since we had
that mission from twenty eight weeks later and even then
all those people died right like pretty much that's all
anyone's getting that information back of like here's what we
learned about this kind of thing. It's just like, I
guess we just kind of swooped out another rug because
we don't know anything about it and it's dangerous as heck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I swear they showed us some clips from
that movie.
Speaker 7: It did right from the end of the sniper's perspective
with the people running.
Speaker 5: Out with the bows. Yeah, they're kind of switching back
and forth. That was interesting, which.
Speaker 1: I like because it's still like it's like I said,
they kind of I won't say they wretcon the France thing,
but they've to me kind of recon like, hey, we're
gonna figure that out.
Speaker 2: They've solved that. That's good. But I like that.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, it's a movie that they weren't exactly
a part of. I think they produced and obviously they
shot the opening scene, but I still like it's not
like one of those cases like yeah, but don't don't
associate anything of that second one, Like okay, that was
like a little venture there and they used some stuff
there and but yeah, I don't think anything hybody made
it out?
Speaker 5: When did when did the I actually missed that Paris
line to be honest, Like, but who said that or
when was that in the movie?
Speaker 1: Because I think it's when they're talking about the quarantine people,
And I could be inflating it with that. They said
that in an interview like outside of the movie as well,
that they did that happen. Yeah, that the Parist thing,
like pretty much what happens. It sounds like, well, I
think they they talked about it. I think they're gonna
probably talk more about later. But when they're talking about
the quarantine people and the soldiers from Paris, and they
say something like, oh, well they took care of it before,
like they kind of allude that.
Speaker 7: And that was in the text too, write when it
was like twenty years later they driven it off of
the mainland Europe.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think they gave like that and then
like a sentence of like, oh, they've dealt with this before.
Speaker 5: So I found it interesting that, like, you know, the
jump between the first movie and the second movie obviously
like half a year, this one twenty eight years. Yeah,
the second movie had like a way more into like
had way more lines and that kind of Star Wars
crawl at the beginning of this was like very quick,
but I feel like I kind of breeze past that line.
But then when we get Edic, you know, I can't
even buy backs that up because he's like talking about
comes from Sweden. I'm like, Okay, I guess everyone else
is safe in the world. So I don't know, maybe
maybe that was like for idiots, maybe there's soo many
people like me missing some less details early on as
they throw him deeper in the movie to kind of
just reinforce like oh, Yeah. The rest of the world
is safe, by the way, it's just just England.
Speaker 6: That guy got aft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know we're gonna talk about I just
don't want to forget about it. Very much like that
when the main movie is done, they did the twenty
eight days later and then that got us to the ending.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: That just kind of keeps happening in this franchise. So
but very fun like tag there and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So let's see anything else.
Speaker 5: We have an off sit, so many notes, but we're
already an how we're twenty in. I don't know how
this rapid fire rapid firearm Okay. One one thing I
really like. I feel like several characters said the exact
line well done, Spike his mom said at one point,
at is saying it, the doctor's saying it. I forget
if Jimmy said it when he encountered him at the
very end, like at the hill when he's showing some
do like the first bow shop, but like exactly those words,
well done. I thought that was kind of funny.
Speaker 6: Good Lad too many times Good Lad you talked about this.
Speaker 5: Trev's like, I don't think we ever really see anyone
turning in this movie, like I guess with a couple
of the army, like Eric's friends in the canal, you
get like that that's kind of the most of it,
which I feel like is.
Speaker 4: The beginning too, I guess, but that's the starting.
Speaker 2: I don't count the beginning. I don't kill Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't count the twenty days later because that's like, okay,
that's kind of in that time frame that we've covered before, right.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I just I thinel like that's such an
iconic imagery of this series. It seems like so I'm
kind of surprised they didn't kind of dig into that more.
But I don't know who the characters would have been
that would have done that. Two questions. One, I mention
it like the the people in the in the town,
like the old guy had like the mask. And then
there was even like a weird quick shot when uh
Spike was freaking out or I forget I was a
dreamstick was something where they're they're like setting up for
the party and then like somewhere of the mask like
pops up for like a frame and then they like
remove it, like we're going on with a mask. Does
that mean anything like am I missing something there?
Speaker 2: I don't think it means anything, but I think it's
gonna have to the way they emphasized it, So okay.
Speaker 6: Very culty.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and then what about the radio waves, Like
you know, earlier on in the movie, we're getting a
lot of like just all sorts of audio thrown at us,
and one is like the staticky radio thing kind of
cutting it out, and like, I forget what that, lady,
I don't keep saying something. That's when we're getting a
lot of the shots of like the night shooting, the
bows and stuff. But I also felt like I was
maybe missing something of whether it's that a callback or
was that something else.
Speaker 4: Just for I don't know about a callback.
Speaker 7: It's just it's something that needs a little bit more context,
or maybe it's up to repretation.
Speaker 4: I really don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, m.
Speaker 5: I got more rapid Fires music. We talked about this
a little bit, but yeah, once again very much bringing
back some of those kind of trippy psychedelic vibes that
the first movie had, and then the second movie had
a lot of like kind of church hymns and like
those kinds of sounds, and I feel like this movie
kind of stitched between those two things, which was fun
because I feel like, yeah, the second movie didn't have
a ton of personality in the music department, but when
you mix it with like the weird psychedelic stuff and
then this movie just having like sound effects all over
the place that we were just talking about some of them,
I feel like, and like there's screaming sounds and like
breathy noises and like drips I feel like are really
accentuated in this which, like you know, go back to
the first movie when yeah, like the dad gets infected
and you know it's because there's like some blood just
dripping down from some that building up ahead when the
guards get there. Like when I just hear dripping sounds
in the series. Now I'm like on edge because I'm like,
what exactly is dripping in this case, I think it
was just water when they're like in that church. But yeah,
I just like the sound, like more than just the music.
Like the soundscape that this movie makes is really, I
feel like, exceptional, and it was cool. It was a
kind of a blending of the two previous movies.
Speaker 2: No sound design spectacular, and yeah, I like that they
brought back It's a very not if you were to
hear these songs separately and be like, hey, this is
gonna be in a zombie type of movie, like, oh,
that doesn't really fit, but they make them fit in
this one. So the only thing I was hoping they
brought back is they brought back kind of some of
the vibes of the music.
Speaker 1: I was hoping We're gonna get some really weird transitions.
There was at one point where the mom and some
were walking. It was very far on the flower field
and it looked like a very art pastel but not
as hard as the original, and we didn't get that
you know, mouth in the bottom frame. I was hoping, like, oh,
could we get one really just fucking weird when they
never did it. So I'm kind of hoping when Danny
does number three that they do. Okay, that's for old
time's sake, let's throw in something that like it kind
of looks bad, but it like it just has some
you know, fun I don't know personality to it, but yeah,
I really enjoyed the music and sound choices throughout all this,
So mhm.
Speaker 5: H, I'll just keep going camera, can't. We've obviously talked
a lot about the different shots and things like that.
I mean, so many of the shots in this are
just like the perspective of them being watched, and that's
like every character in this But it's like you'll get
a weird shot from like the underbrush or from like
some trees far away, and then we'll just cut it
back to like a regular shot of them, like from
a regular perspective. But I feel like they mix that
in there so well to just always make you a
little bit on edge. I think the suspense in this
movie is fantastic, and a lot of obscured angles or
just the camera has all sorts of effects thrown over
top of it, but it doesn't feel like cheesy or
cheaper movie maker, right, Like they just have very different
vibes to their certain shots, doing like the weird odd
angles that the mostly the first movie had a little
bit of second movie too, So I really like some
of that stuff.
Speaker 6: Ahead.
Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna say we didn't even talk about because
we talked about nons boys, but those shots of we
saw they use the iPhones was let's say I get
shot with an arrow and then it gives like a
rapid filing all around you, and that's where it's like, okay,
so all these angles they have, like let's say, sixteen
different angles and they just edit them together all at
the same time for a rapid fire. And that's where
that felt like a video game when a character get
hit and it's almost like it stops and it's not
slow motion but it looks like solow emotion but it's not.
It's still moving, but it's because it's rapidly flipping. It's
such an off settling thing and like it feels like.
Speaker 2: When you have like dead eye or like vats and
fall like Bethesda. Yeah, and that I loved it because
it's like that's not stuff you that's that stuff you
made see like a short or someone maybe like that's
something in a movie where again, at times it's a
very dramatic scene that happens, I go like, oh, it
does this fit here, But it's just so cool.
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, and it's so unique. It's like, yeah,
do it. But yeah, it was cool to see. Like
I said, now, when we see the iPhone ring, it's like, oh,
we know exactly what those shots are. It's ending term
of actions hit and then it's seeing all these different
angles where like if they.
Speaker 2: Switch their head, so very cool method.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's like putting your finger on a piano
and just like rolling it down. It's like all these
like different notes just kind of crescendo together in a
way that you're not normally used to. I guess a
couple action sequences we maybe have glanced past a little bit,
but I once again, I love just that first sequence
with the Alpha when he sends them after sends like
the whole crew after Spike and I cannot remember ATJ's
characters name in this movie, but anyway, those two characters
and they make it to the house and then like
just very slowly, you know, they keep stopping, take a
couple of shots, and then they keep moving again. They
try this thing where like one shoots while the other
runs and then they switch. But like obviously they just
aren't not super coordinated at that yet. And they also
the soldiers suck at that later too. But when they
get into the house, so fucking claustrophobic, such a tight
space getting up the stairs, like I was always on
that edge to my seat. Once again feeling like these
characters can die at any moment, which most movies don't
have that vibe and then just like sneaking into the
attic just barely, and then obviously when that was like
comes crumbling down later and then it's like night and
you know that like they they can't get across the
water yet, which turns out they can by the time
they get there. But man, like that that whole sequence
it was so intense. I just love that they took
a really tight space for that, rather than like obviously
the endless openness of like these fields, but instead just
like this really tiny house. It was super dramatic.
Speaker 2: And when the kid got up the attic but then
fell out of that like onto, Tim Tron says, like,
oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's because I thought I didn't think the kid was done,
but like I could see Johnson die right here. Because
it's like, we know we have Jody Coomber. We didn't
know how sick she was, but we know we have
her as like a co lead. We know Killian's in
here somehow, so it's like I knew he was in
this movie, but it's like, oh, that is that how
he gets set up? It's like, or I thought, is
Danny Boyle lie and that's how you meet up? Is
Killian saves or meets this kid, right, so that's the thing.
And even then, we did, like we keep telling, we
did lose a lead in this movie, lost the mom
who was like a co lead for half the movie. Right,
so it's like still a main character is a one
and done. A great character, but a one and done.
And I'm not sure if it's any RAPI fire notes,
but I have to bring up because I feel like
we talket on sections. We probably got distracted by the Alphas.
But Ray Findes is fucking incredible.
Speaker 2: This movie, Like, ok yeah, everything about that character I
would take maybe a movie, but a nice short, twenty
five to three minute film. This setup of him, of
how they met him, hundreds of bodies and he looks
up just that wave, and I think in my mind
while I'm watching, like okay, the big reveals he's doknay psycho,
but like they sure set him up, Like yeah, I
wouldn't talk to this guy either. It's just crazy.
Speaker 1: But all the stuff of like yeah he has the
iodine all in his body, how quainty is, how knowledgeably
he is not only in just like the medical field,
but in life and everything he's been through. How you
know he'll find people burn them up, but he's doing
it to tribute them. And you know, all these people
have thoughts or they spoke like it's this thing where
it's just matter of the fact that hey, this person's dead.
I gotta go burn their skull and wipe their skin off.
But I'm doing that to immortalize them in a sense.
And this character, I'm so glad he was alive because
when he got picked up with the Alpha, I was like,
don't you dare fucking preeder Or's spine rip him. I
was like, don't you do it? Especially the second one
is called Bone Temple. I imagine that's gonna be edit. Taron
Johnson's first stop in the second movie is going to
the doctor because he would have some info. But I
was like, man, and I so badly want to see
him and Killian Murphy interact. Like this character one of
my favorite characters this year. Even this decads Fey, it's
just like and he's not in the mood that much.
But no notes like negative notes for Ray Fryan's just
home run Ted Ted loved everything about the character. Writing
so good and yeah, very emotional and great beings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do such a good job and building up
to like he is going to be a whack job,
but like he's just like a little like philosopher when
when Spike meets him, like he teaches him Memento Maury
and just like all this like really like he doesn't
seem like he is like trying to get something out
of Spike. Like he just like, actually, well, yeah you're here,
how can I help you? And like just being open
to like accepting like even having them there. And yeah,
he's he's something of just like a just like a
like a weird version of like a like just a
chill Buddhist man.
Speaker 2: He's still.
Speaker 6: That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, yeah, he's.
Speaker 6: Definitely got a couple of screws loose.
Speaker 3: The fact that like I don't know, I couldn't help,
but just it was really like emotional sequence, but I
like actually just chuckled when like, uh, Spike is just
he's like morphine realizing that he's loses mom and Ray
finds like here we go go find a good place
for her, and it's just like her perfectly clean skull.
It's just like Okay, I guess like that's goodbye. She's
completely gone.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: It's just like a polished skull.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's just like a like wow, Okay, that really
just happened. And even when he's doing it to Eric
and like he you know, he throws him in the
roaster and the fucking trigger grill smoker gets them all
seasoned nice and then pulls him out and he's just
like rubbing like brain goo off of the skull. It's
like going out off into like into the river that
Like is that just where Jody Kolemer was like sipping water?
Speaker 5: Like who else is just baby drinking brain juice?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Maybe that that helps with the lack of milk. You know,
the brain juice has some nutrients in there. But yeah,
I really wanted to just know more about I think
what is going on with the bone temple and stuff
like that. And like I guess, yeah, like you said, Travis,
like he is just doing it to honor these people,
but like I kind of hope there's more than that.
Like I don't know, it just it just seems like
such a bizarre thing to do that, Like he's just
living on his own.
Speaker 2: But what else would you do for me?
Speaker 1: I guess it's like the cancer thing where it's such
like a simple answer, but I think the Bone Tone
could be, like it said, the point of some stories
popping off, like a location that they got to get to.
But I don't think it's gonna be, you know, where
the crows are reciding or anything. But it's like, what
else would you do if, like no one wants to
talk to you because you're this fucking weird doctor guy
and he cause.
Speaker 6: You're doing that, you're doing that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just I guess that's what he lives
where he's given these people, you know, some sort of
I don't know, yeah, an homage to the lies that
you know, people did lose for this terrible thing that's
going on. So but the second movie is called The
Bone Temple, so it does have to have I imagined something.
Speaker 2: Maybe they just suck it up, maybe just messes that
whole thing up. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think knowing that it's called the Bone Temple like
made me think that of Like, okay, let's get into
the nitty gritty.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 3: We have Ray Fines, who's like killing his performance. He's
looking orange, is a fucking orange and like.
Speaker 6: I love this.
Speaker 3: He's all the dialogue is really good. I like his
dynamic with Spike and then yeah, like he's like yeah.
Then when Alpha comes and grabs his spine, I'm like,
holy fuck, please don't kill his for you, and it's not.
And then he's like yeah, see you next time and
just sends him off on his journey. And that's where
I'm like, really, okay, Yeah, that's more set up for
the next film. And it just seemed like because we
had consecutive moments like that, whether it's with you know,
we're gonna get to the Jimmy stuff, but like even
Samson like I want to know more about the fucking
the the infected and like like what the hierarchy is Like,
is it just these little out like there's just a
couple of alphas out there, they just have their own
little cruise or like are they actually forming like a
village or something. And earlier on when they're camping out
Aaron til Johnson and Spike and they see the fire,
like I was hoping that that was actually infected because
I'm like, let's get into it, like we were already
getting u what was probably my favorite sequel, Like my
favorite shot in the entire movie is is honestly when uh,
like I was alluding to in the spoiler free section
when they're when they're going on their mission and you
just have that like chant I don't even know what
the fucking words were, but like it was in the
trailer and it just splicing in like the red scenes
of like being infected and their glowing eyes.
Speaker 5: Like those shots were crazy.
Speaker 6: I'm getting just.
Speaker 3: Thinking very yeah, very outlast and like just like I said,
like very like the Witch is what it reminded me of,
Just this like dish like activity in the deep woods,
and I wanted to get into that and we just
never did. So I think it was just like multiple
in my mind build up for Bone Temple stuff, and
I mean it got me excited. I am definitely ready
to get there, but I couldn't help feel wanting more.
But I'm just a glutton. I just I just want
all of it right now. I could have doubled back
to back, you know, twenty years later into the Bone Temple.
Speaker 6: Let's go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I wonder how we'd feel about this character
in that sequence. In general, we didn't know the title
of the second one, right, Like I think if I'm
coming out of this without knowing that title, I think
we all thought, oh it was that was a cool
spot that we went to. Okay, what's I wonder what
they'll do in the next moment. Now it's like, okay,
we're gonna go back there. For some reason, I think
we said tribes makes a lot of sense of obviously
his kid was talking about going to see the doctor
and them's not there anymore, so that too. That would
be the next spot.
Speaker 2: He name drops in the not Remember, he says, I
met the doctrine, he's not insane, So same thing of
like and I actually don't even I think they put
two and two together. I don't actually call in the
note of he said that the mom was dead. I
don't know if he said that. I'm sure Eric to
Johnson would infer that with everything that's going on, but
I don't. I don't remember narration of like, oh she
had cancer and this and that.
Speaker 1: I guess Aaron Tillier Johnson kind of already knew that, right,
So maybe again he didn't have to say it, But
I just think that would be there.
Speaker 5: Feels like a detail to put in there every year.
Speaker 2: I personally was, you know, but yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think what I last thing, because you guys
mentioned most of the stuff, But yeah, I think one
thing I really liked about the Doctor is just how
dramatic he was, Like, so much of this feels like
a theater performance to an extent, and I think it's
probably because he's just been chilling here on his own
for so long that he's just kind of been thinking
about like the things he wants to say when he
finally does meet someone. Obviously he did mention as much.
He's like, I've been waiting thirteen years if someone asked
me this, and he's like, hey, now it's my time, Shinea,
I don't have the que cards. I gotta get this right.
But he's like just such a confident character. He just
nails it. He's speaking in these yeah this dead language,
but it sounds beautiful. He's like just seems like he's
totally enlightened and totally at peace with the world and
where it's at, and he's like found a way to
live and thrive, which is totally different than like most
people who would yeah, just try and find like a
piece of shelter, build like a big ass wall and
just like live. But he's like trying to do something
very different, and I love how not precious he is
about it too. Like, yeah, a strong gust of wind,
we'll knock over half those towers. But he says that,
he's like, yeah, the you know, this is how it is,
but like, you know, the elements are constantly like changing
things and can knock some of this up. But that's okay,
it doesn't matter. It doesn't have to be final. You know,
we put to this stuff here, but you know death,
you know it comes for all of us at some point.
And the same thing with like these monuments too, like
they don't have to be any more permanent than like
a human life. And so yeah, I just think he
had such a weird ass worldview. He obviously becovered on
the iodine and looking super weird and freaky. I'm just like, yeah,
that once again that confidence with Samson, right to get
to shoot him, but then to walk right up to
his face and like, eyeball, how do you do like
this guy who's murdered probably hundreds of people, But you know,
he's just perfectly confident because he is something of a scientist, right,
Like he's got this down to like a perfect ritual
at this point. So and that's just such a weird,
unique perspective to have in a world like this. So
whether or not he's just like a trip along the
way for atj in the next movie or if we
go deeper into this character, I'm super down for whatever
we get next for Ray Fines in this Bone Temple movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just refreshing because it kind of goes
back to again not to shit on that movie. I
don't think I failed it, but like twenty weeks later,
didn't really have this in twenty days later they kind
of talked about that with the father and the daughter
and Killie Murphy brings up but like, oh, having somebody
and those like hit on moments of okay, we have
life here. What we're like, what are the things we
can do to enjoy? And that's you know, finding yourselves
with other people. But then Ray finds is the end
of that? I like, well, there's always the end of
that journey. But you still got to just still appreciate
life while you have it, even if it's all this
you know, weird stuff going on.
Speaker 2: You still got to find, you know, whatever good there
can be.
Speaker 1: And then all see, you know, layer Spike has those
flashbacks of his mom, So I like that there is
a character that's trying to push that forward of this
world is you're literally in a bone temple that is
surrounded by hundreds of dead bodies.
Speaker 2: But hey, try to try to sell but he can.
Speaker 5: But he's not even coming across as like a preacher either,
which I think is so important about it. He's just
sharing his worldview, and you know, he keeps it super honest,
like obviously when the kids like, hey, how's my mom doing,
Shena live, No, she's she's gonna die toun like, you know,
he doesn't sugarcoat anything. He just tells it like it is,
which is h which is great. Yeah, yeah, I'm ready
to talk to Jimmy if we're if we're in Jimmy town.
Speaker 1: So as usual, well we'll take our last ad break
because we'll do Jimmy and then final thoughts ratings like
a Jess will be right back and we are backs.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about mister Jimmy here.
Speaker 1: So in the you know, it's tradition and now I'm
I didn't really think about this, but now it's happened
three times.
Speaker 2: I hope five. I guess where we're at. Four and five?
Same thing.
Speaker 1: We need to make sure the twenty eight whatever series
has a bang or opening first one we debated like
how much we like to run now but still set
the stage of fucking crazy monkey. You know, that's it's
at least memorable. Of that second one. You had the
whole you know, the dad leaving his wife or the
bruin kid and getting on the boat and going off
that way. And now this one man shout out to
those at least there's two of them, of the younger
girl actresses, because a lot of those kids like, hey,
look scared, cry. There's a difference of you know, act
like that. And there's two girls that were to the
right up in front legitimately looked unsettled, like, man, this
is messed up. Because I was like, oh, is this
the beginning of it? They're gonna hear, but no, this
is clearly they know something's wrong. Like we talked about,
they're watching teletuppies and man, they just look so fair.
They throw a kid and they're like, hey, you know,
like just stay in here, don't do anything. And yeah,
the opening scene is rage. Monsters busted in there. Jimmy
does get away, but the rest of those kids and
the youths just get destroyed, and you see Bleve like
a savage way to start. When that was open like
okay we are we are when you're killing off kids,
and they opening like, okay, we are in for it,
and uh yeah we got Jimmy ran away, which I
was wrong with my prediction. I thought that priest was
gonna be the priest that killing Murphy bumped into the
first one. I thought they're gonna show us how that
priest became you know, uh whatever, rage monster. But no,
he's very Hey, this is Judgment Day, this is what's
been happening. You know, son, you know this will help
you lead the way, gives Jimmy his cross, and Jimmy,
heis a little you know, great or something. He runs
away and we don't see him again. I'm like, who
is Jimmy? Like where's it gonna be? And then lo
and behold this very Danny boyle out of nowhere. Which
again I've heard so many things about this guy for years,
and now in the last year I've watched Eden Lake.
He was amazing in Sinners and now Jack O'Connell is
because I'd heard he was in this. But now he's
gonna be the villain of part two, I would imagine.
And he has a gang of people that got track
suits and jewelry, and as Spike, because we didn't.
Speaker 2: Talk, Spike has sold his dad like I'm not coming back.
I'll be back at some point.
Speaker 1: He's just gonna go off on his own walk the
earth kills a couple of rage monsters, but a bunch
are coming to say, oh you mind if we help you,
and they're doing backfoot fights. They're just they're looking like
Marvel m Sue character. They look like Daredevil in the
twenty eight years Later universe, and they shaken.
Speaker 6: They just came out of the trees exactly.
Speaker 2: So Jimmy shakes hand with Spike and he said, oh,
I think we would be friends. That's they zoomed on
the Spike the cross and oh it's that same kid.
So clearly lots has happened. So yeah, what do we
think about this ending and the reveal who Jimmy is, Well.
Speaker 5: I'll throw one quick thing, and with the opening sequence
is that like Jimmy gets cornered hard, he's up like
in the staircase, and then like up the stairs there's
rage monster. Down the stairs, there's the lady who just
got chewed up his mom presumably, and then like other
rage monsters. I really wanted to see how he got
out of that house because I could not foresee a
single direction he could have gone that would have resulted,
like there's a window there, But it didn't seem like
he went to the window. So it was a bit
that we didn't actually see like how he got out
of the house. Maybe that's a bit of a nitpick,
but the ending sequence, I was not a fan of it.
It was very weird and uh not in like the
good weird that most of this movie was.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I guess it just took me out of it a
bit because it just felt like larger than life in
a way that there is this movie. I mean, you know,
if you think about it, like the Doctor he's a
pretty larger than life character, and some of these other
moments are. But I feel like if there's a level
of groundedness to it where this felt just really strange,
and I feel like, to me, it almost feels like
a bit of a reck coon, Like we've just seen
how easily if you get hit with one drop of
blood in the wrong place you turn, and with the
way they're chopping up these infected and they're all melee
combat and they're doing like backflips and they're like chopping
heads off and blood is gut and everywhere, like yea.
To me, it makes no sense that they aren't like
getting infected, like one person isn't just based on like
the world of these previous movies. So maybe if you
haven't watched this movie in twenty years, that wouldn't be
an issue. But for me, it's like, God, we've seen
how fragile people are and how easy they get infected,
and just doing this melee combat like parkle sh just
feels like a recipe for failure.
Speaker 1: Here they referred back to it though, even if you
haven't seen the movies, remember when the mom got blood
on her and right away the sun wiped it off
and said like close your eyes, like so they've still
referred back to you can get infected by some liquids,
so it's still there.
Speaker 3: It bothers me so much with how little like ppe
they wear in those situations, like no fucking safety glass, Like.
Speaker 5: They put a bag on one of its head, but
then they're chopping its arms off, So yeah, I don't
know if that really.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, like you're doing that like riot shield you know,
like you need some protection because it sprays.
Speaker 8: Those things bubbles, you need those all the time, you know, Yeah, yeah,
I mean I was just so surprised seeing this fucking
velvet suit tracksuit wearing motherfucker with the chains and.
Speaker 6: You said it was who from Sinners?
Speaker 1: Travis, just the guy who plays the main villain, Jack's crazy.
Speaker 2: Legally, they gave him a bunch of bad teeth. They
gave him like I've always heard his deterred me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I forgot about he was in et Like
I watched this year with Fastbinner, But if I hadn't
seen Sinners, I wouldn't be so excited.
Speaker 2: I think that's why I almost gave this a pass,
and like, oh fuck, it's Shack O'Connell. You know.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was just so shocked by this point in the movie.
It was just like, how was this adventure gonna end? Like,
how is Spike gonna be moving on to the next
Well he goes to fucking Rivendell and Gil Galad comes
out and fucking chops up some motherfuckers. I was just
so Yeah, I think I was just shocked. It seemed
like such a comedic turn. Honestly, with with the moves
they had with the dress were that they had just
the way like their little like fucking praying mantis like
thing that they do at the end. Oh yeah, yeah,
I was just I was just shocked. Was just shocked
across the board. I mean, yeah, a lot of setup
and and like even like the earlier scene, I really
thought that the and it might go this way. I
really thought like the priest dude like Jimmy's dad, was
gonna be like a leader of the zombies, because like
it's like they're coming to take me, and I'm like, okay,
he's just a crazy religious guy saying this judgment day.
But then like when they infect him, it looks like
the infected actually like follow him out of there, and
I'm like, oh my god, this is actually like their
hierarchy here.
Speaker 5: He seems different than the other ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seemed very different, and it like made sense
in that moment of like, oh, he actually knows this
is happening, and this is gonna be like a thing
moving forward plot wise with the infected that they're gonna
be i don't know, coordinated, not necessarily a hive mind
type thing, but like a hierarchy in that way, and
because we just don't get any of that answered at
all or followed up on, I still think there might
be something there, just with the setup of Jimmy. Maybe
I'm wishful thinking there, But again, that was another thing
where I'm like, we got introduced to that really quickly
and just not followed up on. And so that was
just another ad to my calling this a setup movie.
But the ending was such a different vibe than the
rest of the movie, and I don't know how I
feel about it. Honestly, they should have done a centers
thing and just had that as the end credit. Can
you imagine if, like the movie is just its own
tone mid mid credit.
Speaker 6: Scene Jimmy shows up like this would be even.
Speaker 1: Which is funny because some people argue that end credit
for Sinners should just be there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly right, So that's.
Speaker 2: Kind of funny.
Speaker 1: But that's where I am with the asterisktuff, like, I
don't really I'm fine, I'm a few minds. I'm a
fine in the humor because Danny Boyle, like we saw
a business in twenty weeks later, but a lot of
his movies have some very off the wall, just take
you out of it.
Speaker 2: Characters. I think I'm fine with getting there. It's just
weird to be the last thing that's left with.
Speaker 1: But I completely maybe it's a cop out thing, but
just because I think it is just we got to
sell the movie. And if it ends in a way
where oh Spike is in the woods on his own,
there's enough.
Speaker 2: That will check out. Be like, well, I've seen twenty.
Speaker 1: Eight years later and that was that movie right where
that ends, and it's like, and I'm saying it might
be the best way totally to end, because it's a
little more comedic.
Speaker 2: But maybe it.
Speaker 1: Is just that who are these people and why do
they act like like it's such a weird ending and
it's a clippinger that I think it will get people
that now when The Bone Collector comes out, more on track,
because I think it is in a situation or sorry,
the Bone Temple.
Speaker 5: It is a situation, Yeah, collecting the bones to build temple.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's again it's not Gorilla, but it's still it's
a smaller All of them have said, hey, this is
do well, We're not doing part three. It's part two
is already filmed or about to be done. So I
get it from that point of view. And my hope
is that when all three of these movies are out,
I'm gonna give it the same faith I gave Doon
that Hey, when Doom Part two comes out, it's gonna
completely make sense. And it did, and I'm gonna hope that, hey,
when we get Bone Temple and whatever three is, it's
just gonna feel like one gigantic movie, you know, like
I lower the rings or way where yeah, it ends
in a sense, but still it's not over till Proto
destroys that ring. Right, you can't end fellowship with them
almost split apart and big Well, that's the end of
the Chapter's like, no, if you're trying to a trilogy
and get the funding, you got to end in a
very clipping way, even if it makes this movie like
feel awkward.
Speaker 5: You know, it's only when Jimmy throws his necklace in
the fires of Mount Doom will all be.
Speaker 2: Over the Bone Temple Doom.
Speaker 5: Did the priest look like hot Priest from Fleabag?
Speaker 2: To you? I feel it looked like Andrew Scott.
Speaker 1: It did look like, yeah, which I would love to
be at these you know, I would be great, But.
Speaker 5: I'll take him as a rage monster or a human out.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's British, so get him in there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, very excited for it's just center type, but
very excited for Jack O'Connell, very dynamic actor. And I'm
very excited that they didn't show him any marketing or
they they with people knew he's in it, but they
withheld him.
Speaker 2: And I think he's gonna be I think it's gonna
be similar to the Army Camp in twenty eight days later,
but this time it's going to be interesting, not kind
of boring, I think. So, yeah, there, what do you
think of this? Uh camp? But then you can give
your final thoughts too.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, what were we talking about?
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 7: I'm getting just having fun man making movies, big adventure,
having a great time.
Speaker 4: I'm getting hit.
Speaker 7: With the twenty seconds twenty seconds.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what did you think of the ending of
the movie, and then you can go into your final
thoughts and rating as the alpha.
Speaker 4: Uh No, I'm just kidding. The ending of the movie.
Speaker 7: Right right, we're talking about Jimmy, Jimmy specifically, that's for
that's why I got lost in there. So Jimmy, I
I didn't think they were gonna bring it back. When
we got to the the end here and the character
was in here, I completely caught me off guard because
when I read reviews and ahead of time, the thing
people were lightly touching upon was just how you get
this great story and how things just get to the
end and then boom, it takes this curve ball down
the sideway his pathway, and it's like, what's going on?
Speaker 4: It turned a lot of people off.
Speaker 7: I was expecting something much worse, like a major character
death after like the mom Like, okay, like the boy's
gonna die, They're gonna kill the baby something crazy, And
that didn't happen. No, we got Jimmy coming back. He's
got the upside down Cross now, he's got this weird look.
He's got like the Ninja like crew guys now like
doing all this funky stunts. It was crazy, and I
did not mind it. I thought, Okay, this is just
a faction that's just getting super zany and super weird.
And I like the idea of Spike becoming one of
them or them trying to bring them in and seeing
where that goes.
Speaker 4: I really like that a lot. So yeah, I'm on
board with that.
Speaker 7: And I'm excited to see where that's gonna go and
hopefully it pays off because it could be done for
poorly in the sequel, but we'll find out what's going on.
I don't trust them, not at all. But yeah, the
whole idea to.
Speaker 1: Me, the crew or the film, the crews, the crew, Yeah,
because I remember it is even though I really enjoyed
Candy Man. Remember the next one is not directed by
Danny Boyle as well as Nacosta.
Speaker 2: So who did the Marbles and candy Man? Which Marbles? Eh,
you know, the cree came.
Speaker 1: Here hopeful, but I really like candy Man, so I'm hoping,
you know, still has some of that juice going on.
Speaker 7: So the Yeah, and the actor playing adult Jimmy. Fuck
I even Lake.
Speaker 4: You mentioned that one. I did not realize.
Speaker 2: He's the little shit kid in there.
Speaker 7: You've seen in Lake, right, No, I haven't, but it's
I can't remember her name, O'Reilly.
Speaker 4: I think she was in Sherlock Holmes.
Speaker 2: She's in Yellowstone and Fastbenders. Her the male lead in that.
Speaker 4: He's in there. Okay, Yeah, so I'm gonna watch that.
Add it to my list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's same thing.
Speaker 1: It's like in a UK Europe set where they are
going vacation fast Bear and plans to propose. But it's
Jack O'Connell a bunch of like and it's young Jack
O'Connell sixteen seventeen, and they just decided to hair eyes
this couple and like torture them. And they're like it's
full straight kind of not almost body horror, body horror.
Speaker 2: But there's lots of disturbing stuff. But yeah, he's like
the ring leader of this, like fucking maybe it's the
same people, you know, it's the same characters, but yeah,
and it's like, what are these guys motivation? You know
when they're doing all these flips and chains, it's like
what is their what is their goal? Because clearly we're spikes.
Speaker 1: From its just to survive, right, build a community, you
know the doctor, the doctor, I know that.
Speaker 5: The YouTuber of this world. Maybe they could go livestrem
going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but iPhones, excuse me.
Speaker 7: I think it's just gonna be It's gonna be fantastic
to see him taking on this this mantle of main
villain kind of weird q key guy because yeah, after
seeing him as Sinners.
Speaker 4: I was just well the Rocky Road.
Speaker 2: To Dublin, you know, just like he could sing.
Speaker 4: He might sing, but I hope he does. They should
cut that.
Speaker 1: If they do, you don't wanna You don't want to
draw too many comparison to Center Ripoff.
Speaker 4: Turn this into a musical in the sequel.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if they get back to home base
and that's where they reveal killing Killian is the leader
of this fucking gang and he's like dressed up the
same way.
Speaker 2: Well, that's true.
Speaker 7: The interesting thing is we all assume Killian got rescued
because of that plane.
Speaker 1: You didn't because back I record on air, I thought
they drove past him and a lot of bad shit
happened to him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 7: I feel in my interpretation, I think back at then,
in the beginning of the outbreak and at first Wave,
they probably tried to rescue as many people as they could,
and when the receiving of Britain didn't work out, it's like, no,
fuck it, you guys are on your own America lost.
You know, it's all just it's not looking good. So
now I think it'll be interesting to see. Yeah, maybe
Killian Murphy is someone that was just stranded here and
he's here the whole time, or maybe that's probably the
likelier story, because the odds of him being someone on
the mainland and going here doesn't make any sense. Why
wait thirty years later to go back here from the mainland.
Speaker 1: Because also, not to make this view any longer, but
my thing is, in between twenty eight days and twenty
eight weeks, when they were quarantined, people weren't allowed to
leave that area, right, even when the disease was gone,
they weren't allowed like, oh, I'm gonna go to Canada.
So even if killing Murphy would survived that moment, he
was still he would still be here when everything went
shit again.
Speaker 7: So it's not like, oh, well, if he came back,
if he came back came back from what because I mean,
if he was rescued and brought to the mainland like
all these other people were, then he may not have
decided to go back to do the receding thing repopulating
of England, right.
Speaker 2: M okay, didn't the mainl I get fucked up too?
Speaker 7: Or no, well like France did, but then that all
got rectified, right right?
Speaker 2: Okay, So just this pocket. I guess if he got
to the mainland.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I wonder if they'd start capping
those people, you know, like, eah, the disease is back,
you're coming from here.
Speaker 2: We'd watch the mainland.
Speaker 5: You know, I Eveland, it's pretty big. I mean, there's yeah,
there's obviously a lot of people who'd never even privy
to that kind of receding plan. Right, They're still out
there building their bone temples.
Speaker 4: And things, building their bone temples. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was curious because I was looking at because they
made a point another hour here we go. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well, at the at the start for you listeners, you know,
at the at the start of the of the movie,
they talk about like the Scottish hillsides, and it's like, okay, well,
if you look at the United Kingdom down here, like
England where the viruses and we're going way up north
up to where Scotland is, Like, isn't.
Speaker 5: Like a thing though of like in the Scotland Hills
or whatever, Like, aren't they actually in Scotland?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's up north up here. So I mean the
outbreak starts way in England here in London, and so
it goes all.
Speaker 5: What I'm in Ireland. That's what I want to know.
Speaker 7: Oh, they're just they're having a good time over there.
They closed the bridges on the Rocky Road due Dublin.
Speaker 4: Look at that fucking right there.
Speaker 2: That's where he came from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's a Because I scrolled up, I was
going to do something with the fantastic, But I looking
at this picture of back in the day, Charlton Heston.
Speaker 2: Fuck he was an alpha. Look at him, Charltons. Oh yeah,
my score.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna give this.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: I don't have any reason not to give it a
ten out of ten. I think, well, I like certain
other things in a zombie movie, and this didn't have
like the crazy all you craziness.
Speaker 4: Of like World War Z or all out war and
anything like that. It gave me little bits and pieces of.
Speaker 7: World building that I really like in a zombie movie
that I don't get in other zombie flicks. There's so
much going on here, and I think it did a
great job for a sequel, and it really left the
door open for me to be really.
Speaker 4: Excited for what's to come.
Speaker 7: And I think this movie tackles so many different beats
of humanity and just emotion and family and trauma, and
like I've said many times already, like the civilization's civility
and savagery and all that kind of stuff. I think
it's great. I'm really excited to rewatch this. And I again,
if you've tuned into the spoilers review when you haven't
seen the movie yet, I suggest you go watch the movie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't spoil anything, yeah courct uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I thoroughly enjoyed this one. I do have
some hold ups. I'll do the classic Dune Part one
rating thing now. I think I'm gonna give it a
nine out of ten for now. Curious if it goes
up or down on a rewatch, because it is just
a fun time honestly, like when when they're on their mission,
like it it's intense, and it's also just beautiful, like
some of the locations that are within, like the deep
woods and everything. So yeah, it's a different zombie adventure
as well, Like it feels different than the traditional ones
that I had, and especially like coming off of twenty
eight days and weeks later, like us doing the retro,
I thought those movies were pretty pretty alright, you know,
like like definitely nothing special, So This was like a
big step up, honestly in quality across the board, I
think for the franchise as a whole. So it's pretty
sweet that they're able to really pull that off. And
uh yeah, I'm I'm hoping it's honestly, I I hope
this does really really other box office so we get
that third film, because I do like a lot of
the stuff that they introduced here, and if we don't
get all of that answered in the subsequent films or film,
I'm gonna be pretty disappointed never.
Speaker 2: See Killian ever because they don't do the third one.
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like I'm not like super tied
to that being like Chillian's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be back, like the curious actions of our generation.
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be good, but like what does
that do for story purpose? You know?
Speaker 3: Like I want to know more about just Ralph Fines
and his bone temples.
Speaker 2: You know, Ralph, well, he was our guy though, you know, he's.
Speaker 6: Great, man, he's great. Just let him. I guess he's
in the Scottish Hillens and playing himself.
Speaker 4: Where Oh my.
Speaker 5: God, mister mus hmm, Yeah, I I love this movie.
I Uh, I think it's it's it's you know, it's
a tricky I feel, you know, this series doesn't have
enough sauce for us to take a full retrospective ranking
like we usually do for other rankings. But this is
clearly far and away, like the best one in the
trilogy for me. And that's great because I feel like
a lot of the legacy sequels that is not often
the case. It's rare that you get one that's just
like so clearly better than like the predecessors. But yeah,
I feel like this movie. I don't want to use
the word messie, but it's just there's so much going
on here. It definitely has a bit of that, like
doing one situation of like I don't know how are
some of these things go to resolve that could change
how I feel about this, And like I said, like
there's just there's a move. There's a lot of things here,
and there's a lot of things just like taped and
grafted on. So you know, I'm gonna do something unprecedented here.
I'm gonna give this movie an eight and a ten,
so you can you can round that out to a
nine if you want, or you can look at it
as two separate scores. I don't care. I make the score,
you can interpret it. So I'm gonna give you two
separate numbers there, and you do.
Speaker 6: With it what you will.
Speaker 2: I respect it.
Speaker 4: It's a negative two.
Speaker 5: There you go. People will read that as a minus too,
and you know what, that's fine. That's fine with me.
Speaker 2: Mind this too, Danny Boyles, Fine, let's look at the map.
Oh boy, I wonder what the no no no the
y I directed this movie twenty years later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've said everything I need to fantastic movie by
film the year so far. I will be rewatching maybe
since again this week because the we hasn't seen it.
I'm excited because she really likes the twenty eight series,
so I'm excited for her to see this is when
I cannot wait to U.
Speaker 5: Did she do a rewatch with you?
Speaker 2: We watched them, both them. I think she's pretty much
alive with our thoughts.
Speaker 1: Like the first one, same thing, like the ending is
very and the second one was like, yeah, it was fine.
But I think this is to me, it's just like
I'm gonna try to underplay it because I just don't
want to set up for all it's amazing. Don't wory
about to feel like, this is a whole new beast
coming our way. But uh yeah, no, we did not
think I would anyway. I think this would be at
any point having not that.
Speaker 5: Beast, that the whole new Beast come out with me
this weekend, you know.
Speaker 2: But no, I think that I'm just in shock that
even if it gets bumped, the fact that at one
point I had it Frank number one and have it
for multiple things and gold gas coming up.
Speaker 1: It's a facet too good job to the entire crew
cast and specifically Garland Boile.
Speaker 2: You guys still got the juices, still got the gasoline.
Can't wait to see two and three hope Hopeless continues.
I'm now now and we're in the dangerous spot because
I feel like Bone Temple's gonna have a hype that
I don't know will match this, But we'll see, baby,
it will. I mean, we'll just get this great trilogy here.
Speaker 1: But I'm very invested in multiple characters now, including Killing.
I want Killing back, you know, and I can't wait.
So we'll be back in the future next couple of weeks.
Stern July, Durassic World two Men Fantastic for some big
other juicy gasoline field reviews coming up. But unlike the
room in this one, we don't pass out. We just
thrive on it. We're like the Alphons when we get
the gas, so we're here for us next.
Speaker 2: I love you, Bory Bye,