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much for your support. So I'm sure Brett talked about this.
I think I heard him talk about this the other day.
The what's his name, Hargender Singh, the truck driver down
in Florida who had a CDL license to drive a
big rig, got it from California, got one from Washington State.
Doesn't really speak any English, can't tell you what road
sids look like or what they mean. And he was
on the interstate down in flaw and decided to use
one of the turn the U turn lanes like you know,
the for official use only that you know, emergency vehicles
are supposed to use. And he decided to just hang
a U turn using that lane to turn around, and
in doing so, he turns the you know he turns
the the rig and now he's blocking all of the
interstate lanes because the trailer when you turn like that right,
it's now perpendicular to the flow of traffic. And a
van comes zooming down the highway and plows right into
it because you don't expect a truck to do that.
That's why it's illegal. And it killed all three people
in the van, and they took him back to Florida.
He's been charged with believe it's reckless or negligent homicide
or something. There's a development though in this story that
is disgusting, which is there is now a petition that
has been launched on his behalf, a petition asking the
governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis, to be lenient on him,
like to show mercy and why First off, DeSantis is
not going to do that. Number one right, but number
two like, why would you even do this? Why would
you sign it, let alone rack up nearly three million
signatures for this guy?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Everything about this case, writes David
strom Over at hot air dot com. Everything about this
case is infuriating. Hargender seeing should never have been in
America in the first place. He's an illegal alien. Number two,
he should never have been issued a commercial driver's license,
but he got two of them from two different states.
He should never have been hired by any company to drive,
yet he was. All the people who made this happen
are going to get off scot free, though not seeing
that guy, he's probably going to jail to prison right
as he should. But the people who allowed this to happen,
that enabled him, right, the people who set the policies
that sing utilized to get into the country, Those who
tested his English proficiency found it wanting and then gave
him a CDL anyway, and the companies that have hired
him over the last what seven years I think he's
been in the country. He failed an English language proficiency assessment.
He could only provide correct responses to two out of
twelve verbal question He doesn't speak the language, and he
could only identify correctly one of the four highway traffic signs.
Singh has lived in the US for seven years. He
hasn't learned the language, and he hasn't had to, right,
That's the problem. He hasn't had to even though his
job required him to be able to read signs and
follow directions he hasn't had to and why because leftists
keep repeating the same mantra about refugees and migrants just
trying to get by. We're told that the rules don't
apply to them because they are just victims. That's the
sick logic that gets millions of people to rally behind MS.
Thirteen and trende Arabah members illegal aliency can do no
wrong because they're victims. This is what's called toxic empathy.
According to David Strom, I use the term suicidal empathy,
but toxic is fine too. Right, This idea and this
is the core tenet of Marxism, and it just gets
smuggled in in all these different scenarios, in different situations.
But it is always oppressor oppressed mindset. There's always a victim.
And then you just target a particular other category or
class of people, whether it's the landowners, the wealthy, a
racial group, whatever. And what it does is it calcifies
in the brain what's called the tendency for interpersonal victimhood TIV.
It is an actual psychological personality defect, tendency for interpersonal victimhood.
And when you start thinking like this, and you start
thinking in terms that you're the victim. And this does
replicate at scale. Right, there are all sorts of damaging
downstream effects of this. For one thing, like you don't
sympathize with other people who are actually going through some
terrible thing. Do you ever wonder why the left makes
these arguments about who's going to clean your toilets if
we deport all illegal aliens, who's going to clean your toilets?
Who's going to raise your kids? Right, that's not that's
not a sympathetic argument because you're you're you're basically saying
that there's a whole class of people that that's what
they should be doing. Right, That's that's not sympathetic. But
they think that they're being sympathetic, but they actually are not. Yeah,
this guy should not have been here, and there are
people all along the way that enabled this, and now
three innocent people are dead in Florida. It's the same
thing like we just talked about in the last hour
about crime. These are choices and Donald Trump is showing
that when you make a different choice, you get different results.
And the different choice is no, we're actually going to
enforce our immigration law. No, we're actually going to enforce
our criminal law. We're going to put more people on
the streets of the District of Columbia because he can
do that. I don't know if he can do it
with these cities he's talking about now, sending them to
Chicago and stuff, and I don't know if you I
don't know if you've got that kind of authority. But
then again, we're buying shares of intel, so I don't
even know what we're doing anymore. With Like, I'm old
enough to remember when that was considered to be socialism
and that was not good, not good. Although it's not
surprising to me because I recognize Donald Trump is a
lifelong Democrat, so he has these instincts that tend towards
that old philosophy of state ownership of things. And yeah,
I'm not a fan of that. That doesn't mean I
hate Donald Trump. I'm just saying if this was Joe
Biden or Barack Hussein Obama, I don't think people would
be cool with it. Well, I mean leftists would be
cool with it. But meanwhile, quite the admission from ABC
News headline, immigrant families fear Trump's deportations as children returned
to school school, public school. So this is an admission
right that illegal aliens do carry a cost for public benefits. Right,
they are accessing taxpayer funded services and such, right, And
they just you know, admit it, just acknowledge it that
many of the nation's school districts are returning to the
classroom with immigrant families. No, no, no, no, illegal immigrant families,
illegal immigrant families. See, this is how this is what
they take from you. They take the language. You control,
the language, you control the debate. That's why they are
dropping the word illegal. They drop the word alien. They
tried undocumented, unauthorized, whatever. Now they're just saying immigrant. Now
they're just lumping all immigrants together, illegal and legal. And
they do it to opfuskate, to cloud the argument because
then they can win that argument by playing to your
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From the text line, here's one from Doug who says
we are already in a proxy civil war. Half the
Congress and the mayors of blue cities are welcoming and
protecting violent illegal immigrants as well as the homegrown violent
radical elements. Um Let see here. Joseph says, the Trump
administration just said they're reviewing fifty five million visas. Couple
that with at least thirty five million illegals, and you
can safely assume one out of every four people here
should not be here. No wonder howses cost so much
and you can't get into the er. This is an
eight to eight number. I agree with you on the
renaming of illegal aliens. What's the deal with American born
jobs reports?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: What do you mean, what's the deal with American born job? Yeah,
well that's data. Whenever they put the jobs report out,
they break it down foreign born and American born, And
so what we have seen since Trump took office is
a declining share. It's actually the people who are foreign born,
their numbers have been dropping as far as employment, and
American born employment is growing, which is due to deportations
and also self deportations, right, which is what Mitt Romney
promoted back in twenty twelve, And he said, like, if
you enforce the law that's already on the books, as
Trump is doing, if you enforce the law, then it
makes it untenable, unappealing, unattractive for people who are here
illegally to remain here, and they will self deport That's
what Mitt Romney said. And oh my gosh, like the
amount of people that went nuts over that like we
hadn't had to have the national conversation over Mitt Romney
saying people will self deport. Oh my gosh, bring out
the fainting couches. But he was right, and there isn't
anything wrong with that. There isn't. That's why you have law.
You have these laws so as to know, disincentivize certain behaviors. Otherwise,
don't have the law. If you're not going to enforce
this stuff, then just take it all off the books.
Why even bother having it on the books. Just repeal
all of the law and just allow people to come
across the border without even signing the guest book on
the way in, right, like why bother? And by the way,
like this is not hyperbole. This is now what we
have witnessed now thanks to Donald Trump, is that you
we do have half the country roughly that is advocating
for open borders. They don't believe anybody should be deported.
They I mean this guy, what's his name, Abrago Garcia
that now they just they picked him up, he turned
himself in, They picked him up. They're going to send
him to Uganda because they couldn't send him to l Salvador, right,
because that was where he is from, and uh, now
they're going to send him to Uganda and they're like,
you can't send him there, So now they're suing overall
of that too. But the guy was trafficking people and
this is their poster child. Which is one of the
things that's always intrigued me with the left is why
do they always pick the worst poster children for these
types of issues. I mean, it's one thing to take
the wrong side of the issue, and then it's another
to find like the worst type of an offender in
that system, in that structure, and then to go to
bat for that person. It's like the hands up, don't
shoot Michael Brown Ferguson thing, Like, really, that's the guy
you chose. The guy went in and robbed the convenience
store and tried to take a cops gun, Like that's
the anyway. So many of the nation's school districts are
now going back to the classroom, and this has gotten
immigrant families fearful. According to ABC News, they quote Esmeralda Alday,
former executive director of Dual Language and English as a
Second Language Migrant Education for the San Antonio Independent School District,
which is one heck of a title. I don't think
it fits on a business card. She says. It's coming
at our families from every angle. It's affecting our families
from all angles, almost leaving them with no choice but
to self deport. Yes, right, because the law was put
on the books in order to make things not comfortable
for people who are violating the law. And if you
are violating the law, then you should be worried that
you are going to be caught and suffer the repercussions
of that, which is a one way flight back to
your home country. So you can make arrangements ahead of time,
Like you can make some plans now and do it
on your schedule, right, Like you can make sure you
get everything taken care of and then go back on
your own. You could do that. Families, she says, now
dread dropping their kids off at school. Some won't even
leave their homes. And this got me thinking, what's thet there, Like,
what's the play? Right, You're gonna what hunker down for
four years and then hope jd Vance doesn't win or
something like You're you're just going to ride this out.
And if that's the strategy, then the play is that
you want Democrats to get back into power, so they
will give you the amnesty. So how is it that
this population knows this? How does the illegal alien population
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I want to welcome to the program, bread Wingeable Brett.
How are you, sir.
Speaker 2: I'm great. I'm fleeing the uh, I'm fleeing the Beltway.
We are leaving Washington, d C. And we had an
incredible day of talking to the people that are making
policy here at the White House, and it was it
was it was a really great day, especially on this
day where we found out that Kilmar only speak Spanish,
only speak Spanish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long has he been in the country, like
fifteen years or something?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of interesting. It's they took him
back into custody just in the last hour or so,
and they wouldn't say where they're taking him. And everybody's
very upse everybody's upset about that. Pete. Every everybody who
was at that press conference earlier this morning was very upset.
And so now we don't know where he is.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, he's not going back to El Salvador, right,
He's not. We know where he's not going. He's not
going to l Salvador, right.
Speaker 2: So with that in mind, we had we had a
we had a couple of briefings Ron Votello, who is
his customs in Border Patrol. Uh, he was, he was
really magnificent. I'm gonna play all this stuff tomorrow because
we got out of here late because we had the
South Korean president at the White House, so it tied
everything up, so we weren't gonna be able to move
very easily in that regard. But we so Ron Vitello
and Mike Banks, who is the actual chief of the
Border Patrol, and man, they are they are so happy
just to not be getting attacked by by the Bidenistas
and that sort of stuff. They're happy to be allowed
to do their job. Pete, I don't understand. I've never
thought that you should be able to do your job,
especially if it's national security.
Speaker 1: Right now. Look, I started, uh started the first hour
talking about this Ukrainian woman that was murdered on the
Charlotte light rail line, uh, covering the immigration stuff in
this hour and in both. The connection with both of
these topics is what you just said there. It's like
this lack of focus on your first order, your first priority,
which is public safety. That's the only reason why we
seed some liberty to a government. It's so we have
mutual protection. And if you're if you're not going to
do that, then there isn't any reason for me to
be involved in this, in this social contract any longer.
Speaker 3: It's right.
Speaker 2: And I was talking when talking to Chief Banks, who
he's been stationed all over the southwestern part of the
United States, and he's he's one of those guys where
you're saying, Okay, this guy lived it, and he lives
it every day. You know, he knows what's going on.
And he said, I asked him, how does this grate
on you when you hear you're not you know what's
going on in La, what's going on in Baltimore, what's
going on in Chicago. And he says, people think that
this is a race issue. This is not a racist
it's a safety issue. And he said, he said, sixty
percent of our people in the Border Patrol are Hispanic, right,
And he says, and he said, he said something like
I don't remember the exact number. He said, like thirty
percent that we hire our first generation Americans or have
come to the United States to become Americans. And he said,
including my wife who's also a Border Patrol agent and
was and was from Mexico City. And he says, and
they try to tell us that we're fascists and we're rats,
and he's like, nobody, No, none of these people are racists.
They're just one enforcing the law.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one. It's it's part of the suicidal empathy
in the Western societies, which is like all other countries
are allowed to have borders and protect them however they
see fit, except us.
Speaker 2: Right exactly. Okay, Now I want you to say this
to me. Who else did you talk.
Speaker 1: To well Bred before I let you go? Who else
did you talk to?
Speaker 2: Doctor Oz?
Speaker 1: Really the man behind the curtain.
Speaker 2: We had a great conversation. He loves the CMS, not
not not Charlotte Mecklenburg School, but he loves the CMS
and the and the and the process. You know what.
He's he's got a crazy idea people. Uh oh, he
wants to get older people healthy, and he's saying what
they need to do is go check out with their
doctors because it's the thing that they're supposed to do,
so we don't end up blowing up the healthcare system
because people don't go and get their cell themselves checked out.
Speaker 3: Is that that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that sounds pretty fascisty right there.
I don't know. I mean, yeah, I mean this guy
sounds like as big of a racist monster as the
border patrol guy.
Speaker 2: No, No, he's thought, he's actually really incredible, and he's
he's he's he's just mesmerizing when you talk to him.
I mean, he's he's got such a passion for people
being healthy and saving lives and and that sort of stuff.
And then the pier there resistance Pete Judge shanein.
Speaker 1: Very cool.
Speaker 2: So we'll be playing the stuff tomorrow because I am driving,
I'm speeding back, speeding but I'm driving back from the
f L Way as quickly as I can because I
don't want to get contaminated. But it's it was. It
was a very fullsome number of hours and uh, they
really gave us their best in so many ways. Uh,
and so I just wanted to report back and uh,
you know, just if if you've got any questions, I'll
take them, Pete.
Speaker 1: But you know, proof of well, it was I did
promise proof of life to your audience. So I'm glad you. Uh,
I'm glad you, uh because I thought I was colonizing
your show and that that's what you do. So you're
the colonizer. So wait, I am curious were you Were
you able to If I had known you were going
to talk with doctor Oz, I would have I would
have suggested this before you went to talk with him,
which is, can you can he changed the acronym instead
of it being CMS, can it be C M M
S because that's actually the acronym. There are two m's.
Speaker 2: You know you're right about that. I start it. I
think I have his card. I think I can maybe
reach out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's just like a text or something like.
I don't wonder stand why everybody drops one of the m's,
you know, because it's Medicare and Medicaid.
Speaker 3: Well is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you know what it's. I think it's
probably because of dogeus.
Speaker 1: Had to drop a letter you gotta drop. They would
save on some printing costs, sign printing, sign manufacturing, any
any of the signs you gotta do. I guess that
would help. But yeah, for years they call it CMS.
I've never understood why they why they drop one of
the m's so opportunity, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to buy a vowel pete.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, no, it's consonant, hard consent anyway, it's
soft consonant or anyway. Bread Winnable travel safe. I will
keep the seat warm for you. Yes, you're doing a
great job.
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Thanks.
Speaker 1: Buddy, appreciate it. That's Brett Winnable. I'm keeping his seat warm.
Do not, don't ask how, but he'll be back tomorrow
and safe travels to him.
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better returns. That was yes, Brett Winterble. This is the
Brett Winterble Show. I am not Brett Winterble. I was
just talking with Brett. He's in DC meeting with muckety
MUCKs pooh bahs if you will of the White House,
and he will return to the airwaves tomorrow and I
will go back to my noon to three slot. Let
me jump over to the phones here and get Ray. Hello, Ray, Ray,
how you doing?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 1: I'm well, how are you pretty good?
Speaker 3: I know your Pete. And the previous caller was Brett Winnable.
But yeah, I wanted to make sure that you know,
how do you know that was Brett Winnerable and not
one of your callers that call in under different identity
sometime and he was maybe changed his political persuasion but
didn't want people to know it and call in talking
for the Conservative life Unable.
Speaker 1: That's a fair question. We UH thoroughly vetted him when
he called. Uh, and by we I mean Isaac. Isaac
vetted him when he called. Asked him, you know the
secret code words and such and he passed, so we
knew it was Brett. But otherwise very good. It's a
very good flag to raise. Luckily Isaac was on it. Also,
we have caller ideas.
Speaker 3: I was just learned to make sure.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, take care, Ray, I appreciate it. Here is
a message from russ Uh just spitballing here, Pete. But
illegal aliens may have gotten the idea that Democrats want
to give them amnesty and they just need to wait
it out from you know, like based off of like
policies that like Los Angeles distributing debit cards to illegals
who are afraid to go outside due to Trump's fascist
deportations and such like. That may be that may be
why they've gotten in their head that they just need
to hunk her down and wait it out for about
three and a half more years and then they will
be allowed to come out of the shadows, as it were. Now,
I saw this piece at the Charlotte Observer, and then
there was another one at Enlache Latino andc dot org.
They apparently both got to sit down interview with Assistant
Field Office Director Maria Summers from the Immigration Customs Enforcement
in Charlotte, and there was something interesting here at the.
Speaker 3: She is.
Speaker 1: I believe she is a naturalized citizen. She's originally from Mexico.
To Brett's point, Yeah, she told us she is a
Mexican of Mexican origin and is a naturalized citizen and
that she has been working for the AGE for twenty
three years. Maria Summers. Now that's reported in the En
Latche Latino, NC dot Org piece by Patricia Ortiz that
did not make it into the Charlotte Observer article, but
I think that it probably should have because it's I
think an important piece of information, particularly when you start
off the piece by saying, quote, the official leading Immigration
and Customs enforcement in Charlotte denied that the agency racially
profiles people. That's how you started the article. So don't
you think that I think it would be of note
that she is of Mexican origin herself. No, she's a
naturalized citizen. She's an immigrant, So that seems to be
kind of relevant, particularly if you're starting off with this
denial of an accusation that ICE is racially profiling people,
and what evidence is there for that. Who is making
these accusations. Our job is to enforce immigration law, and
we do it very humanly, she said. Since President Donald
Trump returned to the White House in January and launched
a mass deportation campaign, ICE has been more active in Charlotte.
Increasingly public arrests have led to anguish and backlash. Churches,
a parent teacher association, an immigrant advocacy group, and others
have accused the agency of violating people's rights and creating dysfunction.
Throughout the observers and Lache Latino's hour long conversation with Somers,
she frequently redirected public criticism of Ice. What does that mean?
She redirected public criticism. I don't know what that means.
Then they have her quote people are very defiant. End quote.
That's it. Now you go to the Lache Latino piece,
and she says she pointed out that in operations, people
turn out to be very challenging. Quote. People don't just
say here, I am please, what can I do? We
don't always have cooperation, although we also have it in
some cases. That's another possibility. We have our identification machines
that we can use. We have, you know, different means
to do it. However, everything depends on the situation and
the level of cooperation of the person. Quote. The truth
is that when we are making an arrest and people
start running or fighting, many of them say I did
nothing wrong because they think that being here illegally is
not doing anything wrong, or because they were allowed to
stay and be released without any action being taken against them,
they think they haven't done anything wrong, and then we
find them they're not very receptive or cooperative. So I'm
a why guy. I like to ask why, and just
like with the other question about like why are people
behaving this way? Why do they think this is a
good strategy? Well, why do they think that they haven't
done anything wrong? What would give them that idea? This
question is not some answerary question here. This is at
the core of the entire issue. Yet the observer doesn't
even explore it. They don't report it, they don't This
isn't even in the observer story, and there's no exploration
of why, because that's the first thing I would have
asked her. Why do they think that there's nothing wrong? Oh, well,
because they haven't. They haven't faced any ramifications for breaking
the law in the first place, or they've been recruited
to come and they've been told and sold a bill
of goods that you can go there and you're not
going to be deported. Who's spreading those messages? All right?
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