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Speaker 3: Yeah, underrated is a funny statement anyway. It is December five,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, allegedly, according to that thing we call
Speaker 3: a calendar, and uh damned if I'm not still alive.
Speaker 3: So here we go with the first live broadcast since
Speaker 3: I returned from Dallas, and I'm waiting for my co
Speaker 3: host to join me here on the stream. Hopefully he's
Speaker 3: seen his link I sent it over to him, and
Speaker 3: hopefully he'll pop up momentarily. So I've got phone lines
Speaker 3: set up three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 3: one six in a great deal of pain, I really
Speaker 3: am not going to be talking about it too much,
Speaker 3: although probably I'm gonna mention it here and there, so
Speaker 3: there's a little double talk for you, you know, for
Speaker 3: those of you that are where, I'll just give the
Speaker 3: simple facts about that trip in a moment. But like
Speaker 3: I said, I'm hoping for my coast to jump on
Speaker 3: in at some point here and waiting to see if
Speaker 3: he does. And hopefully he does. But I haven't seen
Speaker 3: him there yet and told him I was setting up.
Speaker 3: He said okay, and I sent him the jitsy link,
Speaker 3: so I don't have the chat room in front of
Speaker 3: me where he usually is earlier than myself. But looks
Speaker 3: like everything is broadcasting live, so hopefully you guys are
Speaker 3: hearing it. Look, I'm a little behind on the news.
Speaker 3: I've had some difficulties this week and last and well
Speaker 3: the week before that too. Now, I guess because I
Speaker 3: left here in the teen days what the eighteenth, I
Speaker 3: guess of eighteenth or nineteenth of November, and I have
Speaker 3: not broadcast live since I bailed on doing the hell
Speaker 3: in high Water with Maria and a few other things,
Speaker 3: because first of all, I didn't get back home on time,
Speaker 3: but also I had to carefully deal with some issues.
Speaker 3: And I'm doing the best I can here because anyway,
Speaker 3: I'm live. And if you want to talk to me
Speaker 3: and you're hearing me live, three one nine five two
Speaker 3: seven five zero one six, let's see, it is just
Speaker 3: ten after the hour of eight pm here on the
Speaker 3: East coast of what we used to call America. So
Speaker 3: if you're hearing me on December fifth, at twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five on that particular time, you're hearing me live. Otherwise
Speaker 3: you're hearing a replay, and you've been hearing a lot
Speaker 3: of replays on the ocell network as of late, so
Speaker 3: I don't expect a lot of people to even tune
Speaker 3: in because this will be a limited engagement. But I've
Speaker 3: also got the Age of Transitions and Uncle to produce
Speaker 3: starting at ten pm Eastern here on ocelly dot com Radio.
Speaker 3: So let me talk about a couple of things that
Speaker 3: are going to change in the near future. I don't
Speaker 3: know how it's gonna turn out money wise in April,
Speaker 3: when I've got to pay some big bills, uh, But
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to keep the live stream going. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna try to keep the website up, gonna try to
Speaker 3: keep the feed that gives you the podcast going as
Speaker 3: best I can. But there's gonna be some changes here.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go down to just three Ocelli
Speaker 3: effects per week as a constant, and each one is
Speaker 3: going to have a point. You know. One of them
Speaker 3: will be an interview day where I have a guest.
Speaker 3: Will maintain this Friday night call in thing, but we're
Speaker 3: going to change that up a little bit too. I'm
Speaker 3: redesigning it and we're going to change things a bit.
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna keep my show's name and all that,
Speaker 3: and who knows what else this little network might produce.
Speaker 3: I considered retiring the Ocelli Effect name because it feels
Speaker 3: kind of useless when I've gone from you know, having
Speaker 3: five listeners to or let's put it this way, eight
Speaker 3: listeners to eighty thousand and then back down into the
Speaker 3: low thousands over the course of this little trip since
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, so you know, that's where I'm at. I
Speaker 3: don't know why BP has not joined me as of yet.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should check in and see what's being said
Speaker 3: in the Ocelli chat room to get an idea, because
Speaker 3: usually he's over there unless he's got a phone or
Speaker 3: internet problem. And I don't like this because I really
Speaker 3: wanted him to just kind of join as I am
Speaker 3: running things here. But then again, team sucks, so I
Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 4: Because I sent them the message via teams.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the issue. Let's see, I don't need chat GPT,
Speaker 3: what the hell anyway, Let's see if I can find
Speaker 3: my own website about that, because I'm working on a
Speaker 3: new browser because I've had problems and to be honest
Speaker 3: with you, you know, after learning really, really the hard way
Speaker 3: who my friends are in the past few weeks and
Speaker 3: who they are definitely not. It's been a hell of
Speaker 3: an interesting journey, I gotta say. So, let's go check
Speaker 3: with its live chat room, which you can find at
Speaker 3: Ocelli dot com. If you go over there and search
Speaker 3: and you hit the listen live button and for some
Speaker 3: reason your browser doesn't work right, you'll be able to
Speaker 3: click on a button to go straight to the Chatsango page. Hey,
Speaker 3: it does look like I got ppete, so I don't
Speaker 3: have to finish going to my own website. B Pete,
Speaker 3: how you doing? Oh? Maybe be Pete good. Oh for
Speaker 3: a second there, I thought you didn't hear me. I
Speaker 3: decided to go live so we wouldn't waste more time,
Speaker 3: you know, And I was trying to get on time,
Speaker 3: but I missed by about five minutes, and I said,
Speaker 3: to hell with it, let's get it live and let
Speaker 3: you join in progress. So anyway, I was talking about
Speaker 3: a couple of things that I'm planning on changing in
Speaker 3: the new year, for sure. But yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to interrupt.
Speaker 4: You're saying I tried to join the room once and
Speaker 4: it started to enter the room and then it foes.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, new glitch. Plus, it seems like there's a
Speaker 3: delay on what I'm saying to you. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 3: well we'll get through it one way or another. I
Speaker 3: have I think, Yeah, yeah, apparently big delay.
Speaker 4: Go back to what you were saying about changes.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, So I'm going to change things up in
Speaker 3: the new year. I want to change the focus of
Speaker 3: I'm going to keep the call in show, but we're
Speaker 3: going to change this a little bit because I think
Speaker 3: it's high time that we pay more attention to you
Speaker 3: and me talking because we're not attracting new callers, and uh,
Speaker 3: you know what, maybe that's not the key. I mean,
Speaker 3: we'll leave the phone lines open, and obviously everybody can
Speaker 3: still call in, but we might handle it a little different,
Speaker 3: and I think it should focus more on you and
Speaker 3: me talking through things. This is based on third party
Speaker 3: advice that I got, because you know what, I'm sitting
Speaker 3: there trying to figure out. As I said at the
Speaker 3: beginning of the show, you know exactly why I made
Speaker 3: the journey from eight listeners to eighty thousand, you know,
Speaker 3: to practically nothing now except a couple thousand. You know,
Speaker 3: this is this has been a rough, weird journey over
Speaker 3: the past well twelve years, and I think some new
Speaker 3: changes need to be implemented in order to get back
Speaker 3: to what needs to be done on here. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think you and I should have more of the conversation,
Speaker 3: and I think we need to format that a little different.
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk to you off air about it,
Speaker 3: but I think we should format our conversation a little
Speaker 3: and make it something that is a little more attractive
Speaker 3: to new callers because we need more of them. I mean,
Speaker 3: I appreciate the people that join us, but you know,
Speaker 3: we've been stuck in a rut now for a while.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I've got a new design idea, so I
Speaker 3: want to do that. I think we'll do one night
Speaker 3: a week of the Ocelli effect, where I actually talk
Speaker 3: to somebody else who's like, you know, a guest co
Speaker 3: host or interview subject, and then we'll have one other
Speaker 3: night where I'm just gonna go, you know, straight for
Speaker 3: here is my weekly roundup of the information you need
Speaker 3: to know, whatever the hell it is I think you
Speaker 3: need to know. And I think that's where I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go from now on because if I streamline it that way,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe uh, it'll you know, be better quality content
Speaker 3: as opposed to the quantity I put out.
Speaker 5: Over the years.
Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, it sounds like a good idea.
Speaker 4: I just hear what the past four years I've been
Speaker 4: with you doing this, what's six? Yeah, just over six
Speaker 4: And I've noticed in the past three or four years
Speaker 4: that it's just getting so saturated with podcasts and rumble
Speaker 4: and the whole genre is just swamped right now.
Speaker 6: Everybody's got a yeah exactly, And I think, but I
Speaker 6: think that you know, you and me and and me also,
Speaker 6: and whoever it is that continues to work with me,
Speaker 6: because Aaron is stuck with me.
Speaker 3: But outside of that, whoever continues to work with me,
Speaker 3: we got to find ways to stand out among this
Speaker 3: sea of nonsense, because there is a big sea of
Speaker 3: nonsense out there. You know, there's a bunch of crap.
Speaker 3: And if it's custom made for the thing you already
Speaker 3: want to hear, well, that's great. There's plenty out there
Speaker 3: for you, right and it doesn't matter if we're talking
Speaker 3: about politics or Star wars. Okay, you can find the
Speaker 3: thing that already reinforces what you want to hear. I
Speaker 3: don't do that, So I'm gonna stop trying to do that,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to go back to you know in
Speaker 3: my mind what it was that made this show work
Speaker 3: and grow, so well, that's what I'm gonna do. And
Speaker 3: I know everybody who is bothering to listen tonight wants
Speaker 3: to hear about Lancer and the trip and all that.
Speaker 3: I got a little bad news and I wanted to
Speaker 3: wait for you to get on the line with me
Speaker 3: before I delivered a bad news, so and then I
Speaker 3: want to hear what you got to say. Okay, because
Speaker 3: I'm taking up too much of this. This is one
Speaker 3: of the things that we got to learn to do
Speaker 3: too on here is I think you and I need
Speaker 3: to turn the mic over to each other a lot quicker.
Speaker 3: We're going to do that in the future, but for tonight,
Speaker 3: I'm going to finish my list of announcements and then
Speaker 3: we're going to change things up in the future. Anyways,
Speaker 3: Clearly some people know that I got into a nasty accident.
Speaker 3: A lot of things happened over the past couple of weeks,
Speaker 3: and quite frankly, I don't want to discuss the accident
Speaker 3: or the Lancer conference at all publicly. The reason is that, frankly,
Speaker 3: there's multiple investigations going on for multiple reasons, and I
Speaker 3: am not going to be involved in messing with any
Speaker 3: of it or causing something to become a piece of
Speaker 3: evidence from this podcast. So I'm not discussing Lnswer, I'm
Speaker 3: not discussing the accident. I'm only gonna give you guys
Speaker 3: kind of a cryptic sort of message about these things.
Speaker 3: And that's gonna have to stand for now, because yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna shoot myself in the foot, and I'm
Speaker 3: also not going to cause problems for people who don't
Speaker 3: need them, And I'm gonna let people do the job
Speaker 3: that do this job, to investigate things and turn things
Speaker 3: over and sort things out. And I'll get involved in
Speaker 3: it later and I will talk about it later, but unfortunately,
Speaker 3: I think it's best for myself and others to have
Speaker 3: to say I'm not going to really talk about it
Speaker 3: at all now. I am hurt, still did not expect
Speaker 3: to be as banged up as I was, but also
Speaker 3: I was kind of worried I was going to get
Speaker 3: stuck in the middle of the sticks in Mississippi, which
Speaker 3: is where I was when the accident occurred. So I
Speaker 3: just wanted to get home. I got home, but I
Speaker 3: am hurting pretty bad, and the only reason why I'm
Speaker 3: in a halfway decent mood is muscle relaxers. Right now,
Speaker 3: Let's put that that way, And you know, my excuse me.
Speaker 3: I got other damages besides that. But again, I'm going
Speaker 3: to let others sort out their work first and then
Speaker 3: we'll be able to talk about it. But also I
Speaker 3: can't talk about Lancer because during the course of my
Speaker 3: attempt to MC and be part of that organization and
Speaker 3: all of that, things went wrong, guys, really really wrong.
Speaker 3: And you know, I am fairly certain my cell phone
Speaker 3: got stolen toward the end. But my cell phone disappeared,
Speaker 3: so I had no way of communicating with anybody, and
Speaker 3: it was secondhand. I had to relay things to Kim.
Speaker 3: So my apologies to people who cared about what was
Speaker 3: going on and felt like I wasn't communicating. I had
Speaker 3: no way to communicate for a while, and I specifically
Speaker 3: got that phone so I could communicate while I was
Speaker 3: on the road, But either fate or somebody's sticky fingers
Speaker 3: decided to make sure I didn't have a phone, So
Speaker 3: we'll leave that there. Apologies. But also another unfortunate thing
Speaker 3: where I've got to give another sad announcement, are intrepid
Speaker 3: occasional caller Spent Kent is no longer among the living,
Speaker 3: And you know it's again. I mean, some people got
Speaker 3: annoyed because he called up and did his professional wrestling
Speaker 3: thing and whatever else. But Kent was a good guy
Speaker 3: really and for the most part, was worth putting up with,
Speaker 3: you know, regardless of what anybody else thought about him.
Speaker 3: And he was getting ready, we were in process of
Speaker 3: and I was waiting to get back from Lancer and
Speaker 3: all that to talk to him about doing a regular
Speaker 3: radio show, which he had been part of the show before.
Speaker 3: As a regular piece. He did a call in show
Speaker 3: kind of like what me and B Pete did, but
Speaker 3: definitely Spent Kent and B Pete are not the same person,
Speaker 3: so it was definitely a different call in show. But
Speaker 3: he had also done other stuff on blog talk radio,
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, and he was so proud of
Speaker 3: it that he brought it up every time he called in. Anyway. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: on the twenty first and no remember, while I was
Speaker 3: at the conference, I got informed that spent Kent has
Speaker 3: officially finally left this building we call Planet Earth. So
Speaker 3: I'm a little saddened by that. I'm saddened by the
Speaker 3: fact that we lost Vance some time ago, but I
Speaker 3: found out late on that. I did pop in on
Speaker 3: the tribute they had for him on the Saturday Night
Speaker 3: Anarchy show, but could not stay on the line long
Speaker 3: because I was in too much pain. And I just
Speaker 3: showed up there at a complete respect for that man,
Speaker 3: because he was a good man and I actually had
Speaker 3: personal interactions with him. I hope someone is going to
Speaker 3: look after his daughter, and he was just a good
Speaker 3: guy who had maybe different things to say than some
Speaker 3: of you might have wanted to hear. But he was
Speaker 3: at all times generous, polite, and decent even of front
Speaker 3: to people. And so I find that sad, and I
Speaker 3: find it sad that accompanying him is a guy who
Speaker 3: believed in but couldn't articulate it as well. Similar ideas
Speaker 3: Kent and Vanarchy. There Vance were similar in their idealism. Now,
Speaker 3: Kent was not the best at articulating it, but Vance
Speaker 3: was extremely articulate in his common way and was a
Speaker 3: guy who you know, up until he got sick, was
Speaker 3: a guy who worked on ranches and stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: an actual cowboy, which is why on that tribute show,
Speaker 3: I say my cowboy's gone, because that was the only
Speaker 3: guy I knew that was listening to me who was
Speaker 3: a cowboy in my mind, lived in Texas all that,
Speaker 3: and I'm particularly sad that he never did quite make
Speaker 3: it because of family emergency one time, and then another
Speaker 3: thing happened, other thing, and this year he wasn't alive.
Speaker 3: But I went to Texas and was hoping that I
Speaker 3: would have time to run into Vance, and I never
Speaker 3: got to shake his hand in person. So these are
Speaker 3: two people that are gone. And this is a signal
Speaker 3: to me from the universe that, you know what, change
Speaker 3: is inevitable and good, bad, annoying, whatever it is you
Speaker 3: want to call people, or whatever it is you think
Speaker 3: of anyone. You know what, Eventually, one day we're all
Speaker 3: going to exit. And when we do, what we leave
Speaker 3: behind is what we leave behind. And I felt like
Speaker 3: I left a lot of things behind on my recent trip.
Speaker 3: I might fully and finally abandon any of my work
Speaker 3: in the assassination community whatsoever. But maybe I'm starting to
Speaker 3: say too much now. So with that, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 3: feeling great, be Pete, I'm not feeling great. I'm not
Speaker 3: feeling happy. I mean, I'm grateful that I got back home,
Speaker 3: and I'm also grateful to a couple of very good
Speaker 3: guys who gave Kim the resources to make sure that
Speaker 3: I didn't have to starve along the way. And I
Speaker 3: also know after the fact that there were people that
Speaker 3: probably would have been willing to come and get me,
Speaker 3: despite the fact that I was stuck very very far
Speaker 3: away and not in a convenient place. And I want
Speaker 3: to thank the people who know who I'm thinking right now,
Speaker 3: and I appreciate that. And I also appreciate that I know,
Speaker 3: at the very least my family has a Christmas dinner
Speaker 3: and uh and and that kind of stuff. Because this
Speaker 3: cost me this uh, this trip cost me a lot.
Speaker 3: And uh it's not just money, but it cost me things.
Speaker 3: It cost me part of my health now it's cost
Speaker 3: me and uh, I really never imagined that that's the
Speaker 3: position I'd be in, but here we are. Anyway. With that,
Speaker 3: b Pete, you know I haven't talked to you in weeks.
Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't talk before I left really and
Speaker 3: wound up. I got to tell you, my memory is
Speaker 3: a little fuzzy. I think I spoke to you in Mississippi,
Speaker 3: but I was in a weird state and still, you know,
Speaker 3: I was having trouble hearing and all kinds of things,
Speaker 3: So my mind's a little muddled. Yes, but I do
Speaker 3: believe I spoke to you Mississippi to at least let
Speaker 3: you know I was alive. But I had to borrow
Speaker 3: somebody else's phone to do that, and I did. And
Speaker 3: you know, what can I say, except there's a lot
Speaker 3: that's going to be said in the in the near future,
Speaker 3: but I gotta wait, sadly, But how was your time
Speaker 3: while I was away? I mean, you know, outside of
Speaker 3: the fact that you are one of my actual friends,
Speaker 3: regardless of the fact that you know some people hear
Speaker 3: us argue and whatnot. CVP's my friend who I can
Speaker 3: argue with, and it's still my friend afterwards anyway. But
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that to you, saying that to the
Speaker 3: person who might be hearing us. If anybody's even listening,
Speaker 3: I don't know, because nobody's calling in three one nine, five,
Speaker 3: two seven, five zero one six. But what's been going
Speaker 3: on with you.
Speaker 4: It's it's been kind of weird. The weather has been
Speaker 4: up down. It's wintertime now, rain and sleep and crap
Speaker 4: like that. But we got right before Thanksgiving, we got
Speaker 4: the contractor in. I've got power to the garage. I'm
Speaker 4: getting ready to strip everything in the inside of the
Speaker 4: garage and rewire everything. But i mean the process of
Speaker 4: digging an eighty foot two foot deep deep trench. And
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something, at my age, i am
Speaker 4: not really cut out for digging. It's just getting old.
Speaker 4: But I mean, other than that, we're getting ready for wintertime.
Speaker 4: We're trying to get things buttoned down. We got our
Speaker 4: Christmas parade tomorrow, and of course it's going to be
Speaker 4: raining during the parade. But other than that, just trying
Speaker 4: to stay healthy and stay on top of stuff. I've
Speaker 4: been fighting Amazon for the past week. Amazon dot Com,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you they can be brilliant at times,
Speaker 4: but some of their sellers need to be taken off
Speaker 4: the list. Don't offer products if you can't provide them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as with everything, as with everything right, it begets
Speaker 3: is crap.
Speaker 4: I've been waiting to weeks. Yeah, you get too many
Speaker 4: two weeks on parts that are keeping me from being
Speaker 4: able to make income.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, with everything, if you get too many
Speaker 3: people involved in something right, you start attracting the extra
Speaker 3: people that think it's easy and they come in and
Speaker 3: screw things up. See, the initial people that start with
Speaker 3: things usually care about what it is they're doing because
Speaker 3: they're the new people, and they want to prove themselves,
Speaker 3: and they want to prove in fact, the whole business
Speaker 3: of doing things that way, you know, to be viable, valuable,
Speaker 3: et cetera. And it don't matter if it's a coffee
Speaker 3: shop or if it's a big online business, it's irrelevant.
Speaker 3: It's it's like the first people in and for a
Speaker 3: little while after that are usually high quality people. Right
Speaker 3: when they're building an industry or building a business, or
Speaker 3: building a type of food, anything, anything that isn't previously established.
Speaker 3: Then there's always a time period, you know, the shit
Speaker 3: show shows up. I mean that's just the reality, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think be.
Speaker 4: People it all started, yeah, but this well, this was weird.
Speaker 4: It all started years ago back during COVID when we
Speaker 4: were having to file a bunch of paperwork and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. I had to get a replacement battery from
Speaker 4: my laptop. I couldn't find one anywhere, so I go
Speaker 4: to Amazon. I buy the thing now that was back
Speaker 4: in like twenty So I'm ready to order some parts.
Speaker 4: A friend of mine has a Prime subscription, so it's
Speaker 4: free shipping. So I would go to them and say, look,
Speaker 4: when you make your order, put these things in here,
Speaker 4: and I'd give them money for it, and they'd show up. Well,
Speaker 4: I go in and I open up Amazon, and I
Speaker 4: go to my old account, and I go and update
Speaker 4: my address, and I changed my method of payment to
Speaker 4: different card, and then I order three things. A set
Speaker 4: of tires for the mower, a carburetor for a weed eater,
Speaker 4: and some precut strings for a weed eater head. Okay,
Speaker 4: it goes through and they build me for the tires
Speaker 4: and say they are shipped and all that. Suddenly I
Speaker 4: start getting hit with emails. My account has been put
Speaker 4: on hold. Two of my tums have been canceled.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: So I go through their method online and they say, well,
Speaker 4: you know, we noticed some unusual activity. And I type back,
Speaker 4: unusual activity. We're trying to buy stuff from you? Is
Speaker 4: that unusual? They said, well, your account hadn't been used
Speaker 4: in you know, four years, so we locked everything down.
Speaker 4: It took three days of back and forth emails providing
Speaker 4: documentation of who the hell I was. It would have
Speaker 4: been easy year if I had just ordered this shit,
Speaker 4: not through any type of account. And in the process
Speaker 4: of doing this, I bought a Prime membership for the
Speaker 4: only reason I would get free shipping and I could
Speaker 4: watch Thursday Night football. Since Amazon bought out the contract
Speaker 4: an NBC doesn't have it anymore.
Speaker 3: I knew that was part of the reason you you
Speaker 3: would get.
Speaker 4: I'm getting ready to buy exactly because for years I
Speaker 4: talked shit about Amazon. I didn't want to give my money.
Speaker 4: It was bad enough having to go through Walmart. But
Speaker 4: Walmart's at the point now you order any yeah, there's
Speaker 4: things on them online, it takes them. They'd have stuff
Speaker 4: within two days. Well, they let the first order go
Speaker 4: through the tires, they canceled the carburetor and the pre
Speaker 4: cut streams, and then I have to go through all
Speaker 4: these hoops. Six days later, they finally reinstated my account
Speaker 4: and I reordered those two items from Amazon that my
Speaker 4: shipment should have been here December first. For my tires
Speaker 4: from December first, I get a notice, it's been delayed,
Speaker 4: it hasn't even been shipped yet. It ships will bill
Speaker 4: you then, of course. And I'm pulling up my bank statement,
Speaker 4: going you mother fuckers build me already.
Speaker 3: Of course they did.
Speaker 4: So that's basically the past week and a half has
Speaker 4: been arguing with contractors and arguing with Amazon.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you a sad thing, and I find fun.
Speaker 3: I find myself in the past few weeks having to
Speaker 3: do a lot of I told you so's to people
Speaker 3: and I'm not doing this to you, but I'm I'm
Speaker 3: going to do this to the audience. See, there was
Speaker 3: a reason why I complained and why people like me
Speaker 3: complained for years about. Look, everything is getting, you know,
Speaker 3: shoved into this digital space where you have to deal
Speaker 3: with these online entities for everything, and it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: if it's banking or food or anything. You're going to
Speaker 3: be relying on this. And here's the problem. If they
Speaker 3: decide snip, yeah, you're no longer eligible, like they did
Speaker 3: to me on PayPal, or like they've done to other
Speaker 3: people on other accounts, or they banned Larry from Facebook
Speaker 3: or whatever, right they can lock you out.
Speaker 4: Now here's a don't understand that one.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. No, you won't. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Here's the bad part, right, and the thing nobody thinks
Speaker 3: of eventually. What that means is that whether they're weaponizing
Speaker 3: it now or not, somebody can So I could turn around,
Speaker 3: bepete and make you pretty much a nothing by cutting
Speaker 3: your digital strings. Now, how many pushes of a button
Speaker 3: do you think that takes at the NSA? How many
Speaker 3: pushes of a button do you think that takes for
Speaker 3: the government to turn around and disallow you from now
Speaker 3: doing what?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Right? The thing the Bible warns you about about not
Speaker 3: being able to do commerce without the mark of the
Speaker 3: beast upon you, Well, now you got to have the
Speaker 3: right digital footprint, and if not, you don't have the
Speaker 3: mark of the beast to do the commerce any longer.
Speaker 3: Do you get it? Now? Does anybody get it? Now?
Speaker 3: I wonder because I've read Sorry, Goo, I didn't mean
Speaker 3: to interrupt you.
Speaker 4: It kinda uh, you know, use the digit the digital social.
Speaker 3: Social credit system scoring.
Speaker 4: For people, and you know the homeless over there they
Speaker 4: don't have, Yeah, they don't. They don't have programs over
Speaker 4: here like we do for housing and food benefits and
Speaker 4: things like that for people over in China and China,
Speaker 4: if you're cut off, you're cut off, right, You're basically
Speaker 4: on your own. So there's a lot of homeless people
Speaker 4: over there. But on the phone is that everybody is
Speaker 4: that is required to have, that are eligible for a phone.
Speaker 4: They have a system in place where it will alert
Speaker 4: you if you're within so many feet of somebody who
Speaker 4: is considered unsociable, as a warning for you not to
Speaker 4: be even be near them because it can affect your score.
Speaker 4: And I thought, well, now that's really taking it to
Speaker 4: the stream right there, and it's coming here, Vina.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's coming here now.
Speaker 5: But it's not alcohol there.
Speaker 3: Right, No, it's coming here in a slightly different creep. Right,
Speaker 3: it's creeping in a little different over there. The communist
Speaker 3: government says it is. You can't fight with them, You
Speaker 3: can't even begin to complain. That's that. But over here,
Speaker 3: you know they got to make it look like either
Speaker 3: you volunteered for it, or you know, you signed up
Speaker 3: for it, or you agreed to it. See that's the
Speaker 3: illusion of choice. Okay, that's really what it is. This
Speaker 3: is my point. Everything is going this way. It doesn't
Speaker 3: matter if you think your vote counts. Doesn't matter if
Speaker 3: you think your dollars count. It doesn't matter if you
Speaker 3: think your identity counts. All of it is now under
Speaker 3: the control of the central database. And yos is a number,
Speaker 3: got it? I mean, this is what people like me
Speaker 3: were saying. We shouldn't keep doing this stuff. We shouldn't
Speaker 3: l this is not a good idea. And you know what,
Speaker 3: everybody thought, we were crazy. It's stupid. Hey, I can
Speaker 3: have my groceries delivered. I don't even have to talk
Speaker 3: to a person. It's all good, you know, I can
Speaker 3: get my discounts. And hey, you're just the stupid luddite.
Speaker 3: You're afraid of technology. I'm not afraid of technology. I'm
Speaker 3: afraid of that's what you're now dependent on. This is
Speaker 3: what the problem is. You're dependent on that to do anything.
Speaker 3: And at any moment they can turn around and do
Speaker 3: to you what they did to me with PayPal. That
Speaker 3: was my only real banking outlet. Okay, luck so they
Speaker 3: clip it. What can I do? They just decided I'm done.
Speaker 3: I still can't get the remaining money out of PayPal,
Speaker 3: even though they said I've let it go by you know,
Speaker 3: a certain amount of time or whatever. That's just the
Speaker 3: way it is. So I'm screwed anyway. It looks like
Speaker 3: I may have lost be Pete. But I was going
Speaker 3: to go to a break, but I see a caller,
Speaker 3: so I'm going to take that call. And it is
Speaker 3: a friend in Florida. I think I know who it is.
Speaker 3: But let's see. Anyways, is this who? I think this is?
Speaker 5: Not sure?
Speaker 3: I think it is one of my few friends.
Speaker 5: How are I'm not sure?
Speaker 3: How uh see, be Pete's having trouble with his Yeah,
Speaker 3: be Pete's having trouble with his, and you're having trouble
Speaker 3: with yours a little. And there's a delay here, so
Speaker 3: I don't know, but you know, speak your peace, brother,
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I got beat, I got you back. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you're delayed. Hello, yep, I think be
Speaker 3: Pete still believed. Yeah, good, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Damn technology, yep.
Speaker 7: I just I was just gonna add to the point
Speaker 7: of the you know, the like the social credit system.
Speaker 7: I think, you know, like in times of how we're
Speaker 7: kind of being up showed into that. If you look
Speaker 7: at Let's says he's like Walmart as an example, you
Speaker 7: know all the online orders, you know where you can
Speaker 7: just even drive to the parking lot pick up the order.
Speaker 7: I mean, anytime I'm ever in the store. I mean,
Speaker 7: it's always the.
Speaker 8: Most inconvenient shopping experience anymore at this point, because the aisles,
Speaker 8: especially during peak shopping hours, are filled with people selecting
Speaker 8: orders and they don't give two ships about anybody else
Speaker 8: around them.
Speaker 9: M h, I think that I want to say to me,
Speaker 9: it seems like the using is as a it's called
Speaker 9: a dissuation, you know, for you to come in store,
Speaker 9: that least to me.
Speaker 5: That's why how it comes across.
Speaker 3: Oh no, this is all intrate.
Speaker 5: Shut up and lets you add to that if you want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so this is uh, this is Chris everybody,
Speaker 3: just so in case I forgot to mention that part.
Speaker 3: But you know, because you're still a person to me.
Speaker 3: But when it comes to this situation, these things are
Speaker 3: all interlocking. The fact that the store is now filled
Speaker 3: with order pickers, Okay, it's just a place to do that.
Speaker 3: We're being incrementally nudged and ushered into a position where
Speaker 3: you become entirely reliant on the technology to deliver everything.
Speaker 3: Your source of income, how you spend it, how you
Speaker 3: get your food, everything, and this is all being done
Speaker 3: and everybody's happily rolling along with it. But eventually we're
Speaker 3: going to be in the same position that people say,
Speaker 3: you know, oh, the communist Chinese, tell me what the
Speaker 3: difference is really, I mean, except they're ahead of us
Speaker 3: a little as usual, you know, when it comes to
Speaker 3: rolling this stuff out. But yeah, here we go. We're
Speaker 3: being ushered into this. And yeah, they can just clip
Speaker 3: your strings. Man, that's it. Somebody decides turn off your bank,
Speaker 3: turn off your ability to get this or that. And
Speaker 3: the next thing, you know is, even if you think
Speaker 3: you got the independence of a car, go ahead and
Speaker 3: try and find some gas, and also find a place
Speaker 3: that takes cash. Because I will tell you this about
Speaker 3: my Dallas trip, even though I'm not gonna comment about it, really,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that I found places where cash was
Speaker 3: not an option, okay, And that means everything relies on
Speaker 3: the digital. And know they didn't have to stick a
Speaker 3: chip in you, because they make you carry the chips
Speaker 3: all over the place, and any one of those can
Speaker 3: be turned off at any time for any reason. And
Speaker 3: then guess what you're stuck with if they turn off
Speaker 3: all your chips. I mean nothing. You don't have access
Speaker 3: to anything, and where is everything you need? Well, if
Speaker 3: you don't have it stored at your house, you're out
Speaker 3: of luck. And even if you do have it stored
Speaker 3: at your house, do you have enough there for you
Speaker 3: to straighten out things or reobtain or get somebody else
Speaker 3: to digitally deliver you something or get your money or whatever.
Speaker 3: Do you have that ability? We are now in a
Speaker 3: position where your strings can be clipped if you're undesirable.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, be pete.
Speaker 4: Think about Dallas just a couple of years ago when
Speaker 4: we went a place where we were staying, didn't want
Speaker 4: to take my card, and they almost refused cash until
Speaker 4: I explained to them they were walking away from twelve
Speaker 4: hundred dollars. Then they kind of woke up, but it
Speaker 4: took a manager making a phone call after several other
Speaker 4: phone calls for them to even accept cash. That's the
Speaker 4: part to piss me off more than anything.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there's that. Plus they still didn't want to
Speaker 3: let us take the room, by the way, unless we
Speaker 3: could get somebody with an acceptable type of card to
Speaker 3: give a deposit and be responsible in case I don't
Speaker 3: know you and I went all led Zeppelin on the joint,
Speaker 3: you know, lifted riffs and just decided to bust it up.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, they wanted to make sure they had a
Speaker 3: credit card to charge otherwise they weren't going to give
Speaker 3: us a room.
Speaker 7: Okay, years ago they just call the cops and pressed
Speaker 7: charges on their as frame on the ceiling.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they want to be able to charge you
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm sure everybody wanted to take home the
Speaker 3: paint brush in a frame which was apparently on the
Speaker 3: ceiling of a bunch of rooms. But go ahead, Chris.
Speaker 3: You were saying something else about about how you know,
Speaker 3: in the old days they would just call the cops
Speaker 3: to sort it out. But now why call them? I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know if they even show up in Dallas.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I didn't see police anywhere, uh
Speaker 3: when I was out and about, and I wasn't out
Speaker 3: and about too much. But where are the police in Dallas?
Speaker 3: By the way, Chris, good question. No, I mean.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean I agree with you that we.
Speaker 7: Are being ushered into that entital age of control. I
Speaker 7: mean it's like we're being you know, right now, we're
Speaker 7: you know, we're getting a soft push. You know, we're
Speaker 7: being incentivized if you were to drive. I'm sure other
Speaker 7: gas stations. He's the same tactics is like, let's say
Speaker 7: like a circle K where right now you've got the
Speaker 7: easy pay of the circle K where you you know,
Speaker 7: you link your debit card to your circle k at
Speaker 7: you say ten cents per gone.
Speaker 5: You know that's the soft push.
Speaker 7: You know, they're preparing us for the hard push when
Speaker 7: the time comes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then people wonder why I stopped working for Exxon.
Speaker 3: We developed when Exon merged with Mobile, we developed the
Speaker 3: easy pass system. We gave you guys a thing on
Speaker 3: your key ring so that you had a way to link.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean nowadays, I mean ship you can't even
Speaker 7: get a discount. I mean they're like, let's once again,
Speaker 7: we'll throw it back to circle K. And I know
Speaker 7: other you know, other retailers they are starting to join to,
Speaker 7: you know, jump on the bandwagon. Is that you know,
Speaker 7: you want to get that cell price, Well guess what,
Speaker 7: you got to have your phone number linked to it,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, you got to have that
Speaker 7: at downloaded. Oh yeah, we all know damn well that
Speaker 7: they're doing more than you know, they're they're they're tracking
Speaker 7: quite a bit of information, you know, collecting quite a
Speaker 7: bit of data.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and before the smartphones. And listen, before the smartphones, though,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, we developed this situation where it was
Speaker 3: tied to your bank account, it was tied to a
Speaker 3: credit card, it was tied to your name, your phone number, everything,
Speaker 3: and it was a key tag you carried that you
Speaker 3: scanned at our pumps. I helped install that system.
Speaker 7: Okay, that we still Kipon's back, you know, a few
Speaker 7: years ago.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and that's the weird. New Jersey was ahead
Speaker 3: of that trend. The only state in the Union, by
Speaker 3: the way, where it's illegal for you to pump your
Speaker 3: own gas still because Oregon finally went over to the
Speaker 3: dark side. But but we developed the the the mobile
Speaker 3: speed pass. Go look it up. I'm sure there's something
Speaker 3: online about it. But I know about it because I
Speaker 3: developed it. I was part of the team you know
Speaker 3: that they brought in to try and you know, figure
Speaker 3: out what the Northeast would do with it. They figured
Speaker 3: out what the whole country would do with it, and
Speaker 3: then rolled it out and it was like futuristic to people.
Speaker 3: They were happy and oh, by the way, yeah, it
Speaker 3: came with a discount. You got a couple cents off
Speaker 3: a gallon or whatever in order to sign up for
Speaker 3: all this stuff and give Exxon Mobile, one of the
Speaker 3: largest corporations on the planet at that time, all of
Speaker 3: your information. So you know, I didn't know necessarily what
Speaker 3: I was even working for. But here we are with
Speaker 3: the evolution now where they can tie it all to
Speaker 3: your phone and your ID even directly. You know, back
Speaker 3: then you'd have to show us an ID to prove
Speaker 3: that you were tied to your card. Maybe, but it
Speaker 3: was a little different story now if it's actually tied
Speaker 3: to your ID. So you know, now it's fully integrated,
Speaker 3: is all I'm saying. But I saw early stages of
Speaker 3: this with Exon Mobile, and now everything has it. Chris right,
Speaker 3: just they.
Speaker 7: Do well, I mean, loves being one of them, you know,
Speaker 7: Love's I think it was within the last two years
Speaker 7: that they started requiring you know, anybody with a you know,
Speaker 7: military pest.
Speaker 5: You know they used to.
Speaker 7: Well, now you've got to physically provide your military idea.
Speaker 7: You know, it used to be that you could just
Speaker 7: climb it you're a military service.
Speaker 5: But now you have to thanks.
Speaker 7: You have to provide you know, identification for all that stuff.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you look at their smart smart checkout counters,
Speaker 7: they've got one of the more sophisticated systems that has
Speaker 7: a trekking. You know, you can see a little square
Speaker 7: track in your face, you know, as you're standing in front.
Speaker 5: Of the self checkouts.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: And now self checkouts.
Speaker 7: Are on the option unless you're checking out in the
Speaker 7: garden center, you know which I'm sure they'll close that
Speaker 7: shit down here soon, do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure that's going to happen. I don't they'll
Speaker 3: streamline that. I mean, you know what does it take
Speaker 3: one robotic arm to fix that? Because that's all you
Speaker 3: got to do is you know, work it like a
Speaker 3: claw machine, right that you don't guide the AI will
Speaker 3: guide it.
Speaker 7: I know you still pick you on ship. I mean, well,
Speaker 7: we're still a little ways away. Before and you know,
Speaker 7: I know, Amazon they were one of the first ones
Speaker 7: that were talking about going fully automated with like America's
Speaker 7: first you know, fully automated grocery store to where you
Speaker 7: didn't even have to step foot inside. You know, they
Speaker 7: would have machinery gun around picking your orders. You know,
Speaker 7: you basically just come and collect, you know, but we're
Speaker 7: not you know, maybe one person you know, monitoring the
Speaker 7: equipment operation, making sure everything performs flawlessly. Yeah, I haven't
Speaker 7: heard anything else about that.
Speaker 5: You know, that was maybe two three years ago. But
Speaker 5: I mean that's what we're trending towards.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, we get like the digital lockers
Speaker 7: at seven eleven's and that type of shit.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we want fully automated. We don't want we're trying
Speaker 7: to eliminate any human involvement. Yeah, all you got to
Speaker 7: do is sit back, eventually collect your universal basic income and.
Speaker 5: Don't pick your shit up.
Speaker 7: Out of the lockers or what not, or will deliver it
Speaker 7: to you by drone, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but see what are you going to have to
Speaker 3: do to get your universal basic income right in order
Speaker 3: to keep it? Even if you do get it, which
Speaker 3: by the way, I'm not even for sure they're gonna
Speaker 3: give it, but if they do, imagine what requirements they're
Speaker 3: gonna have for that. You know, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 3: I guess some people would say, hey, that solves the
Speaker 3: border crisis right there, because you can't be a border
Speaker 3: jumper and come here and do anything. You got to
Speaker 3: be in the system right anyway. You know, people will
Speaker 3: try and sell it that way. And I'll tell you
Speaker 3: the Joe Rogan's of the world, the Elon Musk's of
Speaker 3: the world. They are selling us all down the river.
Speaker 3: Real quick. Hang on a second, Chris, I'm gonna try
Speaker 3: and get to somebody that the last time I talked
Speaker 3: to him, yelled at me and I didn't even publish
Speaker 3: the podcast. So let's do that and check in with
Speaker 3: Jimmy James. Jimmy, how you doing, man?
Speaker 10: Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah? A lot of them. I hear you might be
Speaker 3: a delay though, I don't know. We've had a weird
Speaker 3: delay tonight, but I hear you.
Speaker 10: I came in a little late.
Speaker 2: Is something happened to spec Count.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, he passed away.
Speaker 10: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: When that happened on the twenty first, apparently of November,
Speaker 3: while I was at the conference, which you missed the
Speaker 3: beginning of the show, so you might have missed. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to comment on the conference in ordy accident
Speaker 3: because there are ongoing multiple investigations regarding these things, and
Speaker 3: I'm going to choose not to interfere or add to
Speaker 3: anything or undercut anything by making public comments or making
Speaker 3: this podcast a piece of evidence. So I gotta hold
Speaker 3: back until things are resolved a little bit to tell
Speaker 3: you a lot of ugly stories.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, ugly stories that happen, uh during which
Speaker 2: part of the journey.
Speaker 3: All of it except the trip there?
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, well I knows good. H Well, that's been
Speaker 2: going up a couple of months for the CHELLI apparently
Speaker 2: advanced day. Yeah, I can't die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kent. I was a little surprised at Actually, yes, sir.
Speaker 2: I'm glad. Yeah, I'm shocked. I can't that's wow out there.
Speaker 2: I can't believe where I'm gonna hear him call in anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you. You know. He also co hosted
Speaker 3: a call in show sort of similar to this with
Speaker 3: me for a little while in case people forgot uh.
Speaker 3: But he was planning on coming back on to do
Speaker 3: a show of his own uh soon actually, And that's
Speaker 3: why I was especially shocked. I was supposed to talk
Speaker 3: to him about it when I got home. We had plans,
Speaker 3: but he got an infection from what I understand, and
Speaker 3: uh just lost the battle with an infection of some kind.
Speaker 3: And I have not been given more details. I know
Speaker 3: he was getting over his father's death at the time still,
Speaker 3: and he had called in and mentioned it. Uh maybe
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, I think. But yeah, between that
Speaker 3: and he'd call into the Uncle Show and he'd impersonate
Speaker 3: wrestler's voices and all kinds of stuff, right, you know,
Speaker 3: can uh Kent might have might have bothered some people.
Speaker 3: Uh and I could even get annoyed with him, But
Speaker 3: he was a good guy and he left. I said,
Speaker 3: he left the building that is Planet Earth, right, So
Speaker 3: you know, there you go, brother, best on your journey.
Speaker 3: What can I say? Right?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Uh, I care. I always like.
Speaker 10: Can't good an upbeap fella?
Speaker 2: True? I mean yeah, for sure, mess him on the
Speaker 2: Ucle Show and he calls him and hold him holy right, Well,
Speaker 2: Chris Graves, you've you've been recruited. You're the new wrestler.
Speaker 3: Well, what's weird about that is? Uh, you know, look,
Speaker 3: I'll just say this about Graves. He was telling me
Speaker 3: he was going to make a donation to me and
Speaker 3: all this because he had gotten some sort of settlement,
Speaker 3: you know, from his mother's estate, and he wanted to
Speaker 3: help me with this and that and the third thing.
Speaker 3: And quite frankly, I don't know what's happened to Chris
Speaker 3: Graves because he was making promises to me about, you know,
Speaker 3: helping me fund my trip to Dallas and everything, and
Speaker 3: uh never did that and now is not answering any
Speaker 3: of my messages or anything. So I don't know if
Speaker 3: something has happened to Chris Graves. Honestly at this point.
Speaker 2: Send him a little money yesterday seeing if I could
Speaker 2: shake him loose.
Speaker 10: Fy know what's going on there?
Speaker 2: I could swear that a couple of weeks ago, I
Speaker 2: could swear I.
Speaker 10: Heard him on the Mark Levince Show.
Speaker 3: Oh maybe I don't know, but you said he.
Speaker 2: Was talking to the which kind of made me mad
Speaker 2: because you may recall when I tried to get in there,
Speaker 2: they sent me through some art ai stuff. Chris, Oh,
Speaker 2: come on in, and of course he did a punch. Wow,
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, I get him.
Speaker 3: Hire you kidding me?
Speaker 10: You know what?
Speaker 3: I remember that weirdness where we couldn't even figure out
Speaker 3: what thing they sent you to, because like you were
Speaker 3: talking to a host who shouldn't be on the show,
Speaker 3: and it was a weird thing. Uh, But Chris a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, you know figured it out. Oh
Speaker 3: you did, okay, Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 10: What Chris somehow got too. I was just like, oh,
Speaker 10: that's nice and mean a pretty good listener.
Speaker 11: I'm a.
Speaker 2: Lot better than I'm guessing than Chris.
Speaker 10: Oh whatever, he's all right too, he's just guys. Probably Chris,
Speaker 10: you know where to get hold hold.
Speaker 3: Hey, I hear you. Let me know if you get
Speaker 3: a hold of him, because honestly, like I said, he
Speaker 3: made promises to me and then just disappeared. So I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know what his status is at
Speaker 3: this point. I know that he was supposedly going to
Speaker 3: be okay because he got some kind of settlement from
Speaker 3: his mother, his mother's estate or something. But that's all
Speaker 3: I knew. He was telling me you wanted to take
Speaker 3: me to Jersey and all kinds of stuff on this show,
Speaker 3: and promising he was going to send money so I
Speaker 3: could have money for Dallas and but not and none
Speaker 3: of that ever came through, you know, because he said
Speaker 3: he had money all of a sudden. So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to Maybe maybe they took his
Speaker 3: money away. I have no idea honestly, I maybe it's me.
Speaker 10: I just I donated AD last month.
Speaker 3: Well there you go. I mean, look, all I'm saying
Speaker 3: is I don't know what happened to him. Uh, maybe
Speaker 3: he's working for Mark Levin. Maybe you got the solution already.
Speaker 3: Who knows? Uh, Bet Pete, have you heard from Chris Graves?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 10: No, no, Yeah, I said you last month. I just
Speaker 10: want to make sure you get.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, anything you sent through to Kim. You're
Speaker 3: You're one of the people that actually, you know, put
Speaker 3: something through that said you were gonna and I appreciate it,
Speaker 3: you know, despite our last inner reaction, despite our last
Speaker 3: interaction on.
Speaker 10: You know, yeah argument.
Speaker 2: I mean, and you were in that roop shape that
Speaker 2: had done what I could when you were and got
Speaker 2: off of Mississippi.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well apparent, But but I didn't even have you know,
Speaker 3: the phone I got before I left was was either
Speaker 3: swiped or lost, and I suspect somebody might have stolen
Speaker 3: but you know, I guess I'll let people sort that
Speaker 3: out too. Yeah, And so I had no way of
Speaker 3: contacting anybody or nothing and anybody who was in contact
Speaker 3: with Kim. You know that That's the best I could
Speaker 3: do is borrow somebody smoan and tell her. You know, look,
Speaker 3: I'm stowing one piece, uh for the most part, but uh,
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you the airbags suck. But but anyway,
Speaker 3: uh I. Again, I don't want to get in any
Speaker 3: details because I don't want to screw anything up. And
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let people that are supposed to do this
Speaker 3: professionally do it and I'll criticize them afterwards if they
Speaker 3: need it. That's what I'm going to do. And there
Speaker 3: may be a lot of things that are going to
Speaker 3: come out after all this, and I know there's a
Speaker 3: lot of angry people online and such about a bunch
Speaker 3: of different things, but I can't comment on any of
Speaker 3: it really until things are resolved. So we shall see. Anyways,
Speaker 3: you got anything else on your mind outside of the
Speaker 3: fact that, yeah, we lost another one and all that.
Speaker 12: You want to get to, well, I'm always up to
Speaker 12: talk to jaff Campus sounds like VP that stuff, and
Speaker 12: he was good.
Speaker 3: Cut in with, Oh, I don't know, Bpete, what you
Speaker 3: got on your mind. I mean, we'll let you do
Speaker 3: your thing, and I'm gonna put everybody on hold and
Speaker 3: we'll take a break after that and come back. Good.
Speaker 4: I have no idea what you're talking about, Jimmy sitting
Speaker 4: here watching X and watching the Boise uh Boise State.
Speaker 4: Oh crap, who the UNLV football game? I've I've not
Speaker 4: had a thing to say. Oh, congratulations on your Lions
Speaker 4: beating the Cowboys yesterday. That was wonderful.
Speaker 3: Oh, the Lions beat the Cowboys yesterday. That's cool. Anyway,
Speaker 3: And and by the way, did you did you wind
Speaker 3: up keeping the Amazon subscription so you could at least
Speaker 3: watch football or what? I'm sorry to ask.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how I was able to watch the Cowboys
Speaker 4: a Lions game.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay to the end.
Speaker 4: I got a thirty day trial, so I got until
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Speaker 3: So b Pete. We got Chris and we also got uh,
Speaker 3: Jimmy James waiting on the line. But obviously I want
Speaker 3: to give you room if you got anything you want
Speaker 3: to throw in here, and please do so, go ahead.
Speaker 4: I've just been noticed in the past week of meltdown
Speaker 4: on different platforms between podcasters as apparently, you know, Sandazowas
Speaker 4: has got everybody all balled up right now, and yeah,
Speaker 4: everybody's picking side. So this is is going to be
Speaker 4: interesting the way this one falls out. Oh, it's in
Speaker 4: an update too. You know. I was reading stuff on
Speaker 4: X that supposedly, you know, the Crohn's had dropped their lawsuit,
Speaker 4: but they haven't. So I'm still waiting to see that
Speaker 4: one come out, see the results of that. But other
Speaker 4: than that, it's been an exciting week perusing the blogs
Speaker 4: and listening to the podcast. But not much new, you know,
Speaker 4: not much new on that front, you know, some new
Speaker 4: political stuff we've got. Oh, we found out today that
Speaker 4: the fraud in Minnesota that's been going on from all
Speaker 4: the programs has started back in COVID and programs for
Speaker 4: housing and feeding kids and all that. A couple of
Speaker 4: days ago they came out and said, oh, it's not
Speaker 4: it's you know, we're looking at not just millions, we're
Speaker 4: looking at maybe a billion. And apparently somebody that's been
Speaker 4: auditing a few things has come up with a new
Speaker 4: figure of over eight billion dollars. So well, it's like
Speaker 4: Tim Wallace is going to have fun explaining that one.
Speaker 3: Well, dropping the bucket when you're looking at the trillions
Speaker 3: and trillions, getting right, only eight billion? Come on, be pete,
Speaker 3: that's hardly a hiccup, you know. I mean, look, you
Speaker 3: got to take the new attitude with the bad, don't
Speaker 3: you anyway. On top of that, I guarantee something that
Speaker 3: didn't hit your news feed is that a brand new
Speaker 3: lawsuit was also filed against guess what, the Epstein estate
Speaker 3: and Donald Trump directly, so in the state of Florida.
Speaker 3: You know, I should ask Chris if he saw any
Speaker 3: news about that in his home state. Yeah, one of
Speaker 3: the uh, one of the you know, confirmed and yet
Speaker 3: still masked victims of the sex trafficking thing that went
Speaker 3: on with a curious date on it. Actually, it's kind
Speaker 3: of interesting. Don't know how far it'll go. I'm thinking
Speaker 3: it'll be one of those lawsuits it gets dropped. But
Speaker 3: it's weird to see civil action going on still with
Speaker 3: the Epstein estate, isn't it? And Candice and that whole
Speaker 3: you know, uh one podcast war. There's a bunch of
Speaker 3: podcast wars going on. Go ahead, Yeah, yeah, there are.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say on the Epstein front. I also
Speaker 4: read today a federal judge has ruled for the release
Speaker 4: of his original grand jury transcripts. So these are the
Speaker 4: ones from back when he got popped back in two
Speaker 4: thousand and nine, was it two thousand, Well, started in
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven, and then I think he finally
Speaker 4: got popped in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3: Well, he got popped first time in two thousand and three.
Speaker 3: In two thousand and three was his first problem. But
Speaker 3: you know then he got clipped again later and in
Speaker 3: New York it was what twenty nineteen Florida.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was the one down in Florida that
Speaker 4: he you know, spent time, you know, during the day,
Speaker 4: basically in jail or nighttime. He was allowed to go
Speaker 4: to his officer in the days. But that grand jury
Speaker 4: testimony has now been ordered to be released. So you're
Speaker 4: gonna see a lot more, well, i won't say a
Speaker 4: lot more. You should see some new names, if they
Speaker 4: haven't been redapted. Then we should find out a little
Speaker 4: more about what went on on a sweetheart deal, what
Speaker 4: they were looking at.
Speaker 3: Then yep, let's see in a timeline. Let's just double
Speaker 3: check ourselves here, just to check with the facts. If
Speaker 3: you don't mind, I'm going to a timeline of the
Speaker 3: Epstein investigation, and I'm thinking from the stuff that popped
Speaker 3: up in my initial search, which I'm doing anonymously via
Speaker 3: a new browser. By the bye, let's see. Okay, so
Speaker 3: you had these things brought in twenty nineteen, But where's
Speaker 3: the first part of the timeline. You know, it looks
Speaker 3: like we might both be wrong, which is funny. Two
Speaker 3: thousand and six looks like is the correct year for
Speaker 3: his first you know problems they're regarding the charges against him,
Speaker 3: So two thousand and six, and then of course he
Speaker 3: was again like I said, yeah, well you said, I
Speaker 3: thought you said two thousand and eight, But either way
Speaker 3: would be right. And then, like I said to, twenty
Speaker 3: nineteen is when you know, he ends up in prison
Speaker 3: and then you know, hangs himself right. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: if we were on YouTube, i'd have to say he
Speaker 3: unlived himself, right, you know, and his charges for SA
Speaker 3: would be the thing that we're discussing here, because we
Speaker 3: got to speak like we're talking around four year olds.
Speaker 3: If you're online anymore, otherwise you get popped. But anyhow,
Speaker 3: good thing we're not on YouTube, right, b Pete.
Speaker 4: Yeah, from what I got here says he was convicted
Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight. That's what I thought. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he started back. It took him a couple of years
Speaker 4: to get him prosecuted, and then it was back in
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen when they nailed them again, right, And I
Speaker 4: don't understand that. I have seen stuff on YouTube watching
Speaker 4: these you know, longer length not documentaries, but presentations are
Speaker 4: not an hour or more, right, And all of these
Speaker 4: content creators, oh he unlived himself. Oh, and they bleep
Speaker 4: out all this stuff so that sometimes even to what
Speaker 4: they've got on, you can't make half of it out
Speaker 4: for the bleefs, for the words they have doing with
Speaker 4: But these longer things, no editing whatsoever. They say whatever
Speaker 4: they want. They talk about human trafficking, they talk about
Speaker 4: child sex offenses, they talk about murder, suicide, everything, And
Speaker 4: it's like, why are there I know, people they don't
Speaker 4: want to get demonetized and people that rely on it.
Speaker 4: Why the hell are they not blanketing everybody with these
Speaker 4: damn restrictions.
Speaker 3: I don't get it because some people are you know,
Speaker 3: I here goes the o'cell I told you so dance.
Speaker 3: Some people told you that some people get a privilege
Speaker 3: on these platforms and others do not. And that is
Speaker 3: the interesting thing. See, if you're, for instance, what is
Speaker 3: sixty minutes in Australia put out something internationally, no problem
Speaker 3: with all the rough words in it. Okay, they didn't
Speaker 3: have to say KP. When they were talking about a
Speaker 3: particular type of pornography, they didn't have to say you
Speaker 3: were unalived. When they were talking about you know, or
Speaker 3: self unlived or whatever for suicide, they didn't have to
Speaker 3: you know, none of that. Nope, And they're on the
Speaker 3: biggest platform with a huge audience, and it's just fine. Now,
Speaker 3: that's the corporate privilege. But there's independent, allegedly independent producers
Speaker 3: of content that also get a privilege where they get
Speaker 3: away with a whole bunch of stuff that you or
Speaker 3: I could not possibly get away with. Okay, even when
Speaker 3: I had you know, subscribers of about five thousand, which
Speaker 3: was my peak, and never moved on YouTube, despite the
Speaker 3: fact that again I'll mention it, at my peak here
Speaker 3: I had eighty to one hundred thousand listeners. I only
Speaker 3: had five thousand subscribers on YouTube. Fine, fine, but you
Speaker 3: know I was not allowed to say certain things and
Speaker 3: I got hit with all those COVID restrictions. And that's
Speaker 3: what you said. You know, hey, look look this article.
Speaker 3: They're gonna let people with the you know, medical problems
Speaker 3: come back on YouTube, but not all of us, because
Speaker 3: my appeal has gone nowhere on even those things to
Speaker 3: try it. Hey, restore my channel that you took away
Speaker 3: from me that I had from twenty eight to twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two. Nope, no good for me. I'm gone anyway.
Speaker 3: The Charles o'celly channel does exist, but I if I
Speaker 3: get any attention on it, I guarantee you they'll take
Speaker 3: it down too. So there you have it. You can,
Speaker 3: if you have the privilege, you can do it. It's
Speaker 3: just like the people that you know lose a lot
Speaker 3: of money and keep going back to the bank and
Speaker 3: getting loans. They can do that as well. But you
Speaker 3: or I if we screw up, you know, one light
Speaker 3: light bill payment, you know, we're not allowed to even
Speaker 3: get the slack to not get something without putting a
Speaker 3: deposit on it. Right, So, you know, there's just people
Speaker 3: who have the privilege and there's others who don't.
Speaker 4: Anyway, you know, that's something that always got me back
Speaker 4: to Michael jacks and Stays and they were talking about, oh,
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson is Bankruptyes, you know he's got in He's
Speaker 4: six point three million dollars in debt. And I'm sitting
Speaker 4: here thinking, how does somebody that's six point three million
Speaker 4: dollars in debt, go out and buy the things that
Speaker 4: he remember that article of the interview he did with
Speaker 4: Martin Basheer when they were going out shopping and he
Speaker 4: tells the store owner, Yeah, I want two of those,
Speaker 4: and I want this, you know, I have it ship
Speaker 4: And you're talking thousands and thousands of dollars. It's like
Speaker 4: how somebody that's you know, in the hole six million
Speaker 4: bucks keep doing that. It's because people know that he's
Speaker 4: six million bucks in the hole, but he's Michael Jackson.
Speaker 4: That's the difference.
Speaker 3: But see that that used to be the way it worked.
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you now, people whose names you don't
Speaker 3: even know run tremendous debts on stuff that you or
Speaker 3: I could never assemble. And what happens when they collapse,
Speaker 3: They get more. So I don't know, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: working in the wrong direction here. I got to figure
Speaker 3: out a way to get six million in debt, so
Speaker 3: somebody will give me a hundred million dollar loan, you know.
Speaker 4: A crook?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that probably would have been the move. And
Speaker 3: I did reveal. I did reveal which is only partially
Speaker 3: up online. But you know, at some point my presentation
Speaker 3: will probably come out at lancer where I explained to
Speaker 3: you that I had that choice at one point, but
Speaker 3: I didn't take it. Uh, you know, but stupid me,
Speaker 3: because you know, steal big or don't bother. Okay, that's
Speaker 3: just really a blessing, could you know. I mean, instead
Speaker 3: of handling ten thousand dollars worth of drugs at a time,
Speaker 3: I really should have handled a million. I mean, I
Speaker 3: would have walked away with a much better deal and
Speaker 3: a book and a movie of the week anyway, and
Speaker 3: a good contracted that even if I had to go
Speaker 3: to prison for a little while.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, that's just like this guy that just
Speaker 4: last week. Trump pardons this guy. Now he got convicted
Speaker 4: of scamming people out of one point six billion dollars. Yep,
Speaker 4: and he's not even twelve days in his sentence and
Speaker 4: Trump pardons, and which means all those people that were
Speaker 4: ordered to be given restitution now he doesn't have to
Speaker 4: pay it.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: I have to pay a damn thing. All these families
Speaker 4: are out of money. And I'm you know, I look
Speaker 4: at when Trump does stuff like this, and I'm sitting
Speaker 4: here going that's one of the things that I couldn't
Speaker 4: stand about him. Twenty years ago. Yeah, now, you know
Speaker 4: he's pulling this shit every I mean, I'm just, oh God,
Speaker 4: can't wait to see this guy going.
Speaker 3: Is that the one where his mother went to the dinner,
Speaker 3: the million dollar a plate dinner and sat down next
Speaker 3: to Trump? Is that that guy?
Speaker 4: Or was that a Let me look, I'll have to
Speaker 4: let me I'll have to research it.
Speaker 3: Because between the crypto guy, look, between the crypto guy,
Speaker 3: the guy who stole pensions, and the serious drug trafficker
Speaker 3: that he pardoned in the past couple of weeks. I
Speaker 3: know one of them their mother showed up and paid
Speaker 3: million dollars to have dinner with Trump, and another one
Speaker 3: paid something like you know, I don't know, ten to
Speaker 3: fourteen million into his crypto scheme and suddenly got a
Speaker 3: pardon you know, once again. But anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm confused at this point.
Speaker 4: Ess. Let's see, this was a built investors, Nicola founder
Speaker 4: and Trump donner gets presidential pardon. See and this was
Speaker 4: March No, this was March twenty eight. No, who the
Speaker 4: hell was it?
Speaker 3: Well, whatever it is. In this year, it's been interesting
Speaker 3: his pardons. But I'm not even gonna talk about that.
Speaker 3: I give up. I mean, I can't make the point anymore.
Speaker 3: I tried to explain to people here it is that
Speaker 3: you know, he's gonna page.
Speaker 4: And yeah, David Gentilly, he was convicted. Let's see one
Speaker 4: point six one point six billion dollar froster are just
Speaker 4: days into a seven year six I can't believe only
Speaker 4: got seven years. Yeah, his roller skating to the fraud
Speaker 4: more than ten thousand investors by misrepresenting the performance of
Speaker 4: three private equity funds. He and his partner Jerry Schneider
Speaker 4: were accused of achieving more than seventeen thousand retail investors
Speaker 4: who were falsely promised an eight percent return on their investments.
Speaker 4: And it doesn't they don't say what is restitution, how
Speaker 4: much he was ordered for restitution, But all those people
Speaker 4: lose out now now we don't have any chance of
Speaker 4: getting anything back because of the part And it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, what the hell is Trump doing?
Speaker 3: I mean, with a full pardon, You're right, with a
Speaker 3: full pardon, restitution is eliminated because there you go, it's gone.
Speaker 4: Anyway, it's nothing crazy.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Chris. I mean, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: necessarily mean they got to talk about that, but I'm
Speaker 3: going to go back in the order. We'll go to
Speaker 3: Chris and then we'll go to Jimmy James. But anybody
Speaker 3: else who wants to join us, become part of this
Speaker 3: and tell us something different, go ahead. I had a
Speaker 3: whole thing I could say right there about the guy
Speaker 3: who spent five years writing a book on Trump, and
Speaker 3: I was cracking up because, you know, his whole podcast
Speaker 3: appearance sounds like me in twenty fifteen when I was saying,
Speaker 3: don't vote for this guy. But it was hilarious. So
Speaker 3: I spent five years, you know, And I was at
Speaker 3: the before that, I was with the New York Times,
Speaker 3: and I was I had access to this and that,
Speaker 3: and I can't believe that people don't realize how you know,
Speaker 3: it took twenty years to slow roll the bankruptcies through
Speaker 3: the three casinos, And I'm like, dude, all you have
Speaker 3: to do is talk to me. You don't even got
Speaker 3: to go through the trouble of buying this guy's book.
Speaker 3: I could have told you this stuff. What is this
Speaker 3: guy even telling people? Anyway? Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter
Speaker 3: at all because nobody cares, and anybody who does care
Speaker 3: doesn't believe it so there you go. All right, So
Speaker 3: back to Chris and Florida. See what's on his mind.
Speaker 3: And you know, look, no rules, man, go for it.
Speaker 3: Whatever you want to say.
Speaker 7: Well, I actually it was interested kind of sparked my interest.
Speaker 7: I want to touch on what VP was when he
Speaker 7: brought up Michael Jackson. You know, I was able to
Speaker 7: secure loans when he was so much in debt. Remember
Speaker 7: he was he was in the business of acquiring other
Speaker 7: people's musical licenses.
Speaker 3: Essentially, I was going to, Oh, Chris, I was gonna
Speaker 3: Chris and the Beatles. Chris, Wait a minute. He didn't
Speaker 3: buy albums. He bought the entire Beatles catalog. And that's
Speaker 3: the thing. He was able to get loans against the
Speaker 3: fact that he owned that. But here's here's the real
Speaker 3: rich man's trick. They turn around and they get real
Speaker 3: money for stuff that is potential earnings. Right, this is
Speaker 3: what the deal is that. This is really why they
Speaker 3: beat us, because his potential earnings from the Beatles would
Speaker 3: get him those big loans, not the money he has
Speaker 3: in his hand, not the money he should be making,
Speaker 3: not his you know, paychecks, none of that. And people
Speaker 3: do this in the stock market with junk bonds and
Speaker 3: everything else all the time. Where Look, Elon Musk did
Speaker 3: this in order to buy Twitter, right, he went, look,
Speaker 3: I got this much Tesla stock. It's worth this much.
Speaker 3: Now Elon Musk doesn't have that money, but he can
Speaker 3: show you that he has the potential to have that
Speaker 3: kind of money. So the bank goes, he's got the
Speaker 3: potential for a trillion dollars, No big deal to give
Speaker 3: him a couple of billion.
Speaker 15: Right.
Speaker 3: This is why it works this way. You got to
Speaker 3: have stuff that looks like it has the potential to
Speaker 3: make money, show it to the financial institutions, and if
Speaker 3: they accept it, they'll give you all kinds of slack
Speaker 3: to hang yourself with. I mean, it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: And that's the truth about Michael Jackson. He didn't just
Speaker 3: buy the Beatles catalog. He bought others, but the Beatles
Speaker 3: one made headlines because it was crazy. It was like,
Speaker 3: how did you just buy the whole Beatles catalog for
Speaker 3: an obscene amount of money? Well, two things. He got
Speaker 3: a loan to buy it because he had no cash,
Speaker 3: and then got loans against it once he allegedly owned it,
Speaker 3: and all he owned was the earning potential of the
Speaker 3: Beatles catalog indefinitely, right, so you know, and back then
Speaker 3: they were like looking at well, we got to print
Speaker 3: all new CDs. We gotta print you know, new home videos.
Speaker 3: We got to release some stuff out of the vault.
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson has to get paid for all that. The
Speaker 3: potential earnings on that was astronomical at the time, which
Speaker 3: is exactly how Michael Jackson got that money. You are
Speaker 3: dead on Chris got go ahead be people eventually.
Speaker 7: I don't think they purchased it for seven hundred and
Speaker 7: fifty million dollars. There you go, after he died, there
Speaker 7: you go, they purchased back the rights, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: And sadly, we don't know where Prince's vault went to.
Speaker 3: But Prince had a physical vault of stuff that is
Speaker 3: probably enough to release a lifetime's worth of music out
Speaker 3: of the man who's already dead. And I don't even
Speaker 3: know where it all went. You know, nobody reported on
Speaker 3: who bought it, who carried it out of there physically.
Speaker 3: Somebody had to carry out tapes because Prince was still.
Speaker 5: You know, he didn't have children, did they, Prince?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, I know there were people
Speaker 3: that were attached to his estate, but I don't know
Speaker 3: if they were children. I don't know. See that's a
Speaker 3: weird thing. Go go ahead and try and figure that
Speaker 3: one out. But the physical description of the stuff he
Speaker 3: had in his vaults, it means that there is a lifetime,
Speaker 3: probably decades worth of Prince music that could be released
Speaker 3: at some point. I don't know where it went. I
Speaker 3: don't know if new artists are making it. I don't know.
Speaker 3: But the guy did know how to write a song
Speaker 3: on k Yeah, he had one kid.
Speaker 4: Okay, Prince had one child, but he died six days
Speaker 4: after he was born to a genetic just.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well he left his money to somebody, and you know,
Speaker 3: you know, they cheated the estate out of all kinds
Speaker 3: of money. I mean, look at it this way, be Pete.
Speaker 3: If you're in charge of the Prince's state, right, and
Speaker 3: you know you've got something worth a hundred million dollars,
Speaker 3: and I come to you, I say, I'm sony, listen,
Speaker 3: tell you what. I'm not going to pay a hundred
Speaker 3: million dollars for that. But you're just the executor here.
Speaker 3: You get some sort of nominal fee for doing this.
Speaker 3: Tell you what we're gonna do. We're gonna give you
Speaker 3: a job. You don't even got to show up for it,
Speaker 3: but we're going to give you a job that's gonna
Speaker 3: pay you five million dollars or twenty million dollars. Now,
Speaker 3: you sell me that one hundred dollars Prince asset there
Speaker 3: for twenty million dollars. We get this done for forty
Speaker 3: done and out twenty of it is yours, man. What
Speaker 3: do you think you're gonna hand that to me so fast?
Speaker 3: You know, might might set my hand on fire. Okay,
Speaker 3: And this is the way they do these guys when
Speaker 3: somebody's dead. If you've got a corrupt executor, and you.
Speaker 4: Know, Prince died without a will. Oh, it was a
Speaker 4: legal battle over the estate his errors, determined by Minnesota laws.
Speaker 4: Was a full sister, a half sister, another half sister,
Speaker 4: three half brothers, and apparently the estate was divided into
Speaker 4: two main entities, Prince Legacy Llc, which holds fifty percent
Speaker 4: of the state and it includes interest for three of
Speaker 4: Prince's half siblings and his former advisors, and Prince Oat Holdings,
Speaker 4: which owns the other half of the estate and interest
Speaker 4: from other half siblings who sold their shares. So apparently
Speaker 4: some of the siblings sold out to this LLC, and
Speaker 4: apparently there's been lawsuits ever since.
Speaker 3: There you go. See. Now I didn't know that, but
Speaker 3: it makes sense. So Chris, you are dead on about
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson, though, Man, that is perfect. And I was
Speaker 3: going to say something about that Beatles catalog because I
Speaker 3: know that had a lot to do with it. But
Speaker 3: he owned other people's catalogs too, little lesser known artists,
Speaker 3: you know, people that probably didn't.
Speaker 7: Have major ones, like Lady Gaga was one of I recall, Harry,
Speaker 7: I want to say that he owned it was other
Speaker 7: back in maybe a backstreet you know, like some of
Speaker 7: the boy bands back in the early nineties.
Speaker 5: Also, he had bought.
Speaker 3: Into probably plus don't forget he wrote he wrote the
Speaker 3: Batman soundtrack. Okay, so he's got a piece of the
Speaker 3: Batman franchise if they ever you know, release or monetize
Speaker 3: that again. Uh, I'm just saying it is endless. The
Speaker 3: fact that there's only two corporations that are dividing up
Speaker 3: Prince's stuff is amazing. But look what happened to Michael
Speaker 3: Jackson's stuff. It scattered to the win and he was
Speaker 3: buying up things on credit. Like man, I don't know
Speaker 3: at the end of the day if he was a
Speaker 3: good businessman or not, considering where it all turned out.
Speaker 3: But it is crazy when these guys, but this is
Speaker 3: how they end up with. You know, oh, he's one
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars in debt. He owns eighty million dollars
Speaker 3: to the irs. You know, people like you and me
Speaker 3: can't even fathom that, Like, how do you get there?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 3: But this is how potential earnings I swear to god,
Speaker 3: that's a phrase. Never forget it. The potential earnings from
Speaker 3: something that you have control over. Forget about the concept
Speaker 3: of ownership. You control it, you can make money on it. Therefore,
Speaker 3: you can take a loan against something that has potential
Speaker 3: earnings and that's it.
Speaker 7: Well, you basically what got Tom placed all your assets
Speaker 7: into a trust.
Speaker 5: I mean, isn't that.
Speaker 7: I mean, I believe that's what I've heard before. I mean,
Speaker 7: that's the way to go around it. I mean, you
Speaker 7: tape inheritance taxes and that type of stuff. You know,
Speaker 7: you transfer all your your assets into a trust, and
Speaker 7: then I think there's some you you alleviate some.
Speaker 5: Of your tax liabilities.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 5: Well the I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: The original, the original bass player for the Sex Pistols,
Speaker 3: would agree with you. I remember talking to him. I
Speaker 3: never got him on air, but speaking to him about
Speaker 3: this stuff. He definitely was all about it. Not said vicious,
Speaker 3: but the guy who was there before said vis was like, hey,
Speaker 3: look this is how I still don't have to work
Speaker 3: for a living. And that was part of his formula.
Speaker 3: Is that whole thing with placing everything in a trust
Speaker 3: and then you're just somebody who can use the house
Speaker 3: based on the trust. You're somebody who can use the
Speaker 3: cars based on the trust. You don't try to own
Speaker 3: it self. Business expenses, yeah, basically yep. And depreciation is
Speaker 3: just that, you know, you actually get to mark things
Speaker 3: down based on the fact that you used them, and
Speaker 3: you used them in the course of doing business for
Speaker 3: the corporation, which, by the way, the business of that
Speaker 3: corporation is just take care of you anyway, which is hilarious.
Speaker 3: But look, this is why I'm not rich. I guess
Speaker 3: also because it was either this or you know, or
Speaker 3: getting me. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I got a load down on Michael Jackson what
Speaker 4: he thought in nineteen eighty five. He bought HTV Music
Speaker 4: for forty seven and a half meal and that included
Speaker 4: rights to two hundred and fifty songs. Earlier, in nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty he founded my Jack Music and it included his
Speaker 4: stuff and a lot of stuff by Sliding the Family Stone,
Speaker 4: Elvis Presley and Ray Charles. Then in nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 4: after owning the Beatles stuff for ten years, they formed
Speaker 4: Sony ATV where he sold half of the interest to
Speaker 4: Sony in ninety five, and it included a lot of
Speaker 4: other stuff, but he owned in his own personal company,
Speaker 4: My Jack. They owned stuff from Jerry Lee Lewis, Jackie Wilson,
Speaker 4: Curtis Mayfield, Dion as just a slew of artists, and
Speaker 4: it was like individual songs, not entire catalogs.
Speaker 3: Now, keep this in mind. Every time a TV show
Speaker 3: or a movie was made where they wanted to, you know,
Speaker 3: get the rights to play Slide in the family Stone
Speaker 3: or you know, Jerry Lee Lewis, whatever, these companies were
Speaker 3: getting paid. So there's your potential earnings. And that's what
Speaker 3: it is. So think about that that huge swath you
Speaker 3: just mentioned people in the soundtracks that were created right
Speaker 3: for the next forty years or thirty Wait, thirty five years.
Speaker 7: I don't think you mentioned Elvis Presley.
Speaker 3: Oh you did mention Elvis? Yes he did, Oh he did.
Speaker 5: Okay, I missed that one of my policies.
Speaker 3: No, but it's crazy, right, I mean Dion all that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was under Michael Jackson's mydjack catalog was the
Speaker 4: Elvis Presley stuff.
Speaker 3: So the king of pop owned pretty much most of
Speaker 3: popular music at one point, at least a piece of it.
Speaker 4: Had He even had some of Aretha Franklin stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild. That's wild because Ray Charles when he
Speaker 3: was alive, was fighting to own his own master tapes,
Speaker 3: you know, and got them at one point, and it's
Speaker 3: it's some point it ends up just as part of
Speaker 3: this you know, conglomeration that Michael Jackson assembled.
Speaker 4: Bolence is interesting too. In the publishing rights for what
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson had, his Magic Catalog, they were managed by
Speaker 4: Warner Chapel from nineteen eighty when he started the company.
Speaker 4: In two thousand and five, they said that that catalog
Speaker 4: was worth seventy five million, and after he died in
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine they estimated it between fifteen one
Speaker 4: hundred million, rising to one hundred and fifty million within
Speaker 4: a year according to Billboard magazine. And then in twenty ten,
Speaker 4: John Branca, the executor of Jackson's estate, moved the catalog,
Speaker 4: now this is just Michael Jackson's stuff, moved it from
Speaker 4: Warner Chapel to Sony Music. And what they did is
Speaker 4: they granted Sony the rights to administration for seven years
Speaker 4: for two hundred and fifty million dollars, and then they
Speaker 4: just renewed it in twenty eighteen for an additional seven years,
Speaker 4: which means is running out this year for another two
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million. So they're generating two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty million every seven years by giving Sony the rights
Speaker 4: to administer the catalog. They don't own that, they're just
Speaker 4: administering it, right.
Speaker 3: And here here's what's lost in all this. All the
Speaker 3: original artists you list right, almost all of them died broke.
Speaker 3: The people that actually created this stuff, almost all of
Speaker 3: them died broke. And you know, everybody thinks Elvis didn't die.
Speaker 3: Elvis was all messed up when he died. They had to,
Speaker 3: they had to turn Graceland into a tourist attraction, like
Speaker 3: there was no alternative they were going to lose that
Speaker 3: house even at one point be a state. And yeah,
Speaker 3: a lot of deals got made, including selling Elvis's music,
Speaker 3: so you know, oh he.
Speaker 7: Was a washed up mess before I mean before his death,
Speaker 7: wasn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Elvis, But again the potential of what his
Speaker 3: stuff should would have been earning, or what they should
Speaker 3: have been able to borrow against and everything else. I'm
Speaker 3: just saying the original artists or this is why if
Speaker 3: you're if you've ever been a musician and you've ever
Speaker 3: tried to do business, you look at it like, man,
Speaker 3: there's nothing but gangsters above us. And outside of the gangsters,
Speaker 3: you know, there's the lawyers and accountants, and I don't
Speaker 3: know which is worse. Uh, you don't get to make
Speaker 3: any money. That the the idea of rockstardom is like
Speaker 3: bs you temporarily.
Speaker 5: Uh money.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 5: And he was from a.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, being that Frank was from Jersey, I
Speaker 3: gotta tell you he did have connections, Okay, because there's
Speaker 3: there's a guy who was from Jersey and yeah it's
Speaker 3: sort of legendary, but not as big as you might think. People.
Speaker 3: He wasn't like you know, he he didn't have rock
Speaker 3: star power, and he didn't have my boss power behind him,
Speaker 3: but he had just enough to not get drowned as
Speaker 3: an artist. Frank Sinatra, I'm.
Speaker 7: Not trying to take up a conversation here tonight, but
Speaker 7: like him and the Rat BacT, I mean, there's a
Speaker 7: little bit of power behind them, wasn't that man? And
Speaker 7: I know they were heavily supposedly heavily mafia connected.
Speaker 3: Well that's the funny time.
Speaker 7: If my memory starts mccorrectly, Frank Sinatra is also passing
Speaker 7: around Maryland Moreau.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, some look, some things are legend there and
Speaker 3: some things are true. It's a mix. But here's what
Speaker 3: I know for certain. The only guys that didn't get
Speaker 3: drowned in the music or entertainment business for a long
Speaker 3: long time because they would just use you up. You'd
Speaker 3: look like you were doing well and then you were broke. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's all there was to it. Only guys that got
Speaker 3: to keep a little piece of the pie they created
Speaker 3: were people that had gangsters looking out for them. That's
Speaker 3: the truth, okay, Because if you didn't have a gangster
Speaker 3: partner who was definitely gonna get his cut, you were
Speaker 3: gonna get cut and it's just the way it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is it's kills me, but it's true.
Speaker 3: It is true, you know. And again I don't know
Speaker 3: about all the legends. I mean that was way before
Speaker 3: my time, but I do know about the legends and
Speaker 3: the things that they just recently put out, you know,
Speaker 3: regarding like for me, I knew it a long time,
Speaker 3: the stuff about literally the movie The Godfather and all
Speaker 3: the stuff that went on with that, that's been New
Speaker 3: York legend, like since the day it happened. They put
Speaker 3: out that series, The Offer, which is kind of hilarious
Speaker 3: because it does retell a lot of those stories that
Speaker 3: people just considered to be like urban myths, but they
Speaker 3: weren't urban myths. They were true stories, you know, from
Speaker 3: the streets of New York and New Jersey. Honestly.
Speaker 5: But what is that a season? I haven't seen that one?
Speaker 3: No, the Offer? Yeah, No, that's okay, No, they only did.
Speaker 7: One and my team he's also consumed by a well
Speaker 7: a seven.
Speaker 3: Year old, So I got you.
Speaker 5: But I don't watch a lot of entertainment.
Speaker 3: No, I understand all that. I don't. I don't watch
Speaker 3: a lot of entertainment. Either. But the offer came out
Speaker 3: a few years ago and at the time I was
Speaker 3: sharing somebody's password, so I did get to see it,
Speaker 3: but you you didn't. It's not a new season. They
Speaker 3: only did one season where basically it's like behind the
Speaker 3: scenes or inside story on how they made The Godfather,
Speaker 3: just the first one. You know. I good so, but
Speaker 3: but it's funny because I saw a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: on there where I'm like, yeah, I know this already.
Speaker 3: People are surprised by this. Wow, that's funny because I've
Speaker 3: known this like my whole life. That was real. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what happened. Yes, indeed, this guy did get shot
Speaker 3: in the head, like you know, the the one guy
Speaker 3: was the head of the Anti you know, the Italian
Speaker 3: Anti Defamation League, basically was a mob boss and somebody
Speaker 3: shot him in the head at a you know, like
Speaker 3: don't pick on Italian's rally and they sent, you know,
Speaker 3: a black dude who posed as a cameraman to shoot
Speaker 3: him in the head while he was on stage. He
Speaker 3: got shot in the head and survived a while afterwards,
Speaker 3: and the people that were responsible for sending the black guy,
Speaker 3: I mean, the black guy got beaten to death, right
Speaker 3: there in the crowd, you know, for shooting him. But
Speaker 3: the guy that was responsible for that got clipped a
Speaker 3: couple days later, quite frankly, on my birthday, literally in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy two. I was born exactly the same day
Speaker 3: that Crazy Joe Gallo died in nineteen seventy two. So
Speaker 3: that's true anyway. Yeah, all real. But it's just crazy
Speaker 3: to me when I see like things that people dismiss
Speaker 3: his mythology for a while. It's like, you know, people
Speaker 3: accept a lot of mythology, but on the other hand,
Speaker 3: you hear real stories and you think it's not real
Speaker 3: until somebody puts out a movie or a documentary and
Speaker 3: shows you, yeah, by the way, this is real stuff.
Speaker 3: It just cracks me up because I lived in certain
Speaker 3: places and new things and saw things happen, and not
Speaker 3: in the you know, not in seventy two obviously, but
Speaker 3: some of the stuff that's like starting to come out
Speaker 3: about some of these like gangsters, like you know, like
Speaker 3: John Gotti and all that, it's hilarious to me. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: we just discovered. You just discovered. All you had to
Speaker 3: do was talk to somebody from Jersey or New York.
Speaker 3: What are you stupid. You just discovered No, you didn't.
Speaker 3: It's like the Canadian government they just discovered that somebody
Speaker 3: other than Sicilians, you know, send gangsters to North America. Right,
Speaker 3: They just discovered the in dragona like two years ago
Speaker 3: or three years ago, and they're like, wow, these guys
Speaker 3: aren't even Sicilians. There's another mafia. Yeah, there's eight of them. Stupid. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I tried to explain this when my my Lancer presentation,
Speaker 3: which I think went over people's heads. But there is
Speaker 3: literally what I call the Italian or Mediterranean octopus over there.
Speaker 3: There's not just one Sicilian mob, there's two, and there's
Speaker 3: six others that go along that I know of, that
Speaker 3: actually control half of the world's business. Because the Italians
Speaker 3: don't control the Asian part of the world. There's the
Speaker 3: Asian organized crime, and then there's Mediterranean because really Italy
Speaker 3: is a fabricated country. They made it up out of Sardinia,
Speaker 3: Sicily and the remains of a Roman empire there in
Speaker 3: that papal state where the Catholics have their headquarters. Okay,
Speaker 3: and they fabricated it together like in the eighteen hundred
Speaker 3: say look it up, it's true. But anyway, And they
Speaker 3: also fabricated the Italian language. But I happened to be Sicilian,
Speaker 3: so I know the Sicilian part of the story, and
Speaker 3: I know these other things exist. And meanwhile, these researchers
Speaker 3: that claim to know anything about the mafia nothing, they
Speaker 3: don't know that. All of them. They start out, they
Speaker 3: tell you, oh, in the eighteen hundreds, they formed these society.
Speaker 3: Eighteen hundreds, at the time Jesus allegedly walked the earth,
Speaker 3: some of these secret societies existed. Still not I don't
Speaker 3: know what to do with people. These are secret societies
Speaker 3: that have evolved and survived through every occupation and empire
Speaker 3: that landed on the little island of Sicily. And people
Speaker 3: ignore it because they don't want to know the real
Speaker 3: history or the real thing that's happening. And they look
Speaker 3: at the American franchise and think this is the A team.
Speaker 3: These guys are mostly clowns mostly anyway.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if I may let me, let me have one thing,
Speaker 7: you know what, Let's pass it on to Jimmy.
Speaker 3: How many let's do that.
Speaker 7: As far as that's that's no different than anything else.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's uh, you know, it's not different than
Speaker 7: people trying to blame Bill Gate through the vaccine or whatever.
Speaker 7: All right, there's always a figurehead, all right, the figurehead,
Speaker 7: the person that you see is never the person.
Speaker 5: In charge, never the one right in the show.
Speaker 3: No Oh, Before I let you go and we go
Speaker 3: to Jimmy, though, I got to ask you one thing, Chris,
Speaker 3: did you see any local news about since you mentioned
Speaker 3: Bill Gates? You brought it back to my mind. There
Speaker 3: is a new lawsuit that was filed against the sex
Speaker 3: traffickers where they claim that ready for this one, the
Speaker 3: Epstein okay, Epstein himself and the Epstein estate is attached,
Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Bill Gates all come together as part
Speaker 3: of a sex trafficking thing that happens in a year
Speaker 3: that doesn't make sense to a lot of people. But
Speaker 3: that lawsuit was filed in Florida, and most news outlets
Speaker 3: I've refused to report on it so far. Did you
Speaker 3: see anything about that in any of your local news
Speaker 3: because it was filed.
Speaker 5: In Florida, I personally have not.
Speaker 3: Okay, I just wanted to see if anybody you know,
Speaker 3: I know, you're not the media watch guy in Florida.
Speaker 3: I know. And before I turned over to Jimmy, I do.
Speaker 7: Want to say that's in the news, but now I
Speaker 7: haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: No problem. But before I do go over to Jimmy, though,
Speaker 3: I just want to say thanks. I don't want to
Speaker 3: embarrass you about anything or anything, but I appreciate the
Speaker 3: fact that you know you're with me, man, I really do,
Speaker 3: and I want you to know that personally. Once again,
Speaker 3: we don't have to get into details, but I appreciate it. Okay,
Speaker 3: I appreciate it too, So we'll try and we'll try
Speaker 3: and get back around to you before we're all done.
Speaker 3: I haven't checked the clock, but we do got to
Speaker 3: get back to Jimmy, so I'm gonna put you on
Speaker 3: hold and we'll bounce over to Jimmy James, who's been
Speaker 3: waiting a long time. I hope I didn't put him
Speaker 3: to sleep. But anyway, Jimmy, a lot of things discussed
Speaker 3: their music business and gangster them and a new lawsuit
Speaker 3: I want to ask Chris about but I doubt it's
Speaker 3: gotten obridge in a lot of places, but it was
Speaker 3: filed in the past couple of days. Anyway, maybe you
Speaker 3: got something else on your mind, or you want to
Speaker 3: talk about the music. It's up to you.
Speaker 2: Well as far as music goes, Uh, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to do it all yourself for now on.
Speaker 10: There's only three record labels left in existence. My mom's
Speaker 10: not involved in them. The major corporations. Yep, we're in
Speaker 10: this weird We're in a weird digital age.
Speaker 2: And what you guys called the potential I would call, uh,
Speaker 2: it's an asset.
Speaker 10: He borrowed against Kead. What do you call it?
Speaker 2: He put a basically a lean against what you call
Speaker 2: when you borrow gets uthing with worth money.
Speaker 4: No, I get it.
Speaker 3: But but Jimmy, let me ask you a question, just
Speaker 3: just in that equation. I want your opinion. How is
Speaker 3: it that you determine what the okay, you get an
Speaker 3: appraisal on a house if you're going to take a
Speaker 3: mortgage out right, so they determine how much the house
Speaker 3: is worth based on what you can get out of it.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you could burn it down today and
Speaker 3: it's worth nothing, but they assume that you can live
Speaker 3: there and therefore it's got you know, various amenities, this
Speaker 3: much property, whatever, How is it you evaluate the value
Speaker 3: of you know, Dion's catalog exactly. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: When it comes to these music catalogs, where do you
Speaker 3: Because it's all potential. It's not something that has a
Speaker 3: direct appraisable value, even you could be way out of whack,
Speaker 3: underrated or overrated any which way, right, because it's all potential.
Speaker 3: So what do you think about that?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I believe like if you're going to sell something like that,
Speaker 2: you would have actuaries look over everything, like how much
Speaker 2: money has it made?
Speaker 10: And then that's how you would figure out. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 10: in theory where it's going to make. But oh, it's
Speaker 10: all Willie Nelly, like you said, who knows?
Speaker 3: Well, it's intangible, Jimmy. Here's why I say it's intangible.
Speaker 3: You don't know. Okay, see Jimmy Buffett. Right, let me
Speaker 3: throw Jimmy.
Speaker 12: Buffett a little tangible when you got I mean the
Speaker 12: Beatles catalog.
Speaker 10: I mean, don't matter what. You're got a bank on that.
Speaker 10: Oh okay, I get it, don't matter what. It's a
Speaker 10: money make the machine.
Speaker 3: I get it. But in nineteen seventy, let's say, right,
Speaker 3: you couldn't even imagine that maybe they would use the
Speaker 3: Beatles songs in video games. You couldn't imagine that there
Speaker 3: was going to be home video sales because that stuff
Speaker 3: didn't even exist yet, right. You couldn't imagine in the
Speaker 3: eighties and nineties that streaming was going to be a thing.
Speaker 3: So there is potentially to either gain or lose money,
Speaker 3: and you don't even know about the next technology that's coming.
Speaker 3: So at some point, no matter what actuaries you have
Speaker 3: or what information you have, at some point there is
Speaker 3: a question mark there where it's really kind of subjective.
Speaker 3: You know, you could see the potential in something where
Speaker 3: other people might not, Right, don't you agree?
Speaker 5: Or No?
Speaker 10: Definitely risky. Yes, I agree, it's very risky. I mean
Speaker 10: I was just thinking of that. You remember when John
Speaker 10: Barker was.
Speaker 2: On here at that time, he interviewed Bob Hope, right,
Speaker 2: and he's like, Bob, why don't you get so rich?
Speaker 10: I mean, you're like a financial genius.
Speaker 19: It's just kid, I you think I'm a genius. I
Speaker 19: thought Bob Bill was going to be for apper, right.
Speaker 19: I thought radio was going to be for a right.
Speaker 19: Now your kids think TV is gonna be Forepper.
Speaker 10: It won't be. He says, I just got lucky and
Speaker 10: someone else told them to start buying land. That's how
Speaker 10: he made his money.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 10: You go he was talking about in the industry exactly.
Speaker 3: Bob Hope was an institution to himself. Like, here's another thing.
Speaker 3: I want to bring up Jimmy Buffett with you real quick,
Speaker 3: because I'm always amazed at this. Jimmy Buffett made more
Speaker 3: money than a hundred rock stars combined. He created an
Speaker 3: industry out of basically one hit. He was basically a
Speaker 3: one hit wonder, Jimmy Buffett. If you think about it
Speaker 3: as far as commercial sales, it was Margaritaville. That's it.
Speaker 3: He took that turned it into a brand. Right now,
Speaker 3: if somebody was buying Jimmy Buffett's catalog before anybody turned
Speaker 3: it into a brand, you'd say, look, it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's worth a little bit. But I mean not a lot.
Speaker 3: This guy is I think near a billionaire off of Margueritaville.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of one hit wonders are sitting
Speaker 3: there scratching their heads going damn.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: So the potential earnings there have a wild range that
Speaker 3: they could fall into. So there's there's always going to
Speaker 3: be a risk, and there's always going to be some
Speaker 3: guesswork in there, don't you.
Speaker 2: Think, Oh absolutely, I mean you could lose everything if
Speaker 2: you invest in anything. I don't you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think the best thing to buy these days is
Speaker 2: like just actual crap. You need cars, trucks, guns, ammo,
Speaker 2: stuff like that.
Speaker 3: M I'm with you on the guns and AMMO. I
Speaker 3: gotta tell you. And was really upset that I didn't
Speaker 3: have a pistol in Dallas. But then again, we might
Speaker 3: be telling a different story in the future anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we're getting close to the end of the time here,
Speaker 3: b Pete, looks like I got about six minutes here left.
Speaker 3: What do you think we should do? Let him give
Speaker 3: a shout out, start with Jimmy since he's already on
Speaker 3: the line, and then get ready for Aaron or what. Yeah, definitely, Okay,
Speaker 3: is the game going your way? You're enjoying it, by
Speaker 3: the way, because I know you're watching it while you're talking.
Speaker 4: Well, it's twenty eight to fourteen. Boise State is kicking UNLV's.
Speaker 5: Ass right now, So it's halftime.
Speaker 4: We'll see here you go. Don't care who wins that one?
Speaker 3: You don't no, Okay, is there a game coming up
Speaker 3: you do care about? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I have to look at the schedule tomorrow. We're getting
Speaker 4: towards the end of the season, so it's all everything's
Speaker 4: hanging on you know, who's going to get elected for
Speaker 4: a championships.
Speaker 3: So all right, fair enough, So Jimmy, go ahead and
Speaker 3: give your final thoughts for this week, and then we'll
Speaker 3: go back over to Chris and probably close this one.
Speaker 2: Out shout out to Chuck. I'm glad you survived you
Speaker 2: or deal.
Speaker 10: There, Rest in Peace camp, Rest in Peace vamps.
Speaker 3: There you go, Thank you, Jimmy James. So we'll go
Speaker 3: to Chris in Florida real quick. Like I said before,
Speaker 3: I got to flush the lines and turn it on
Speaker 3: over to Aaron Franz for the Age of Transitions at
Speaker 3: ten pm and then Uncle at eleven pm here on
Speaker 3: o'chelly dot com radio. But if you're hearing the podcast,
Speaker 3: you'll have to go to the next podcast on the list.
Speaker 3: So Chris, your final thoughts for the week.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not trying to be selfish. I'm gonna leave
Speaker 5: us one on a heavier and oe.
Speaker 7: Over the last couple of weeks, I've developed a lump
Speaker 7: on the side of my knee. I'm hoping it's just
Speaker 7: a swallen lump, nude, you know, could be the good
Speaker 7: old C word, which I'm trying to avoid right now.
Speaker 7: So well, prayers and all that good shit, so always appreciated.
Speaker 3: All right, Chris, Look what I'm hoping is you just
Speaker 3: got bit by a bug that gave you a lump
Speaker 3: or something, but because that would be an easy fix.
Speaker 3: But whatever it is, brother, I I just hope it's well,
Speaker 3: you know what, doesn't matter what I hope. I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna hope that you survive as long as you need
Speaker 3: to to get done what you need to get done.
Speaker 3: And I might be envious of you if you go
Speaker 3: ahead of me here, but but nonetheless I'm happy to
Speaker 3: have you still along with us unlike some others. So
Speaker 3: try to stick around, will you.
Speaker 5: I'll do my mess.
Speaker 3: But all right, man, I appreciate it, and thank you
Speaker 3: for everything, including calling in, and damn uh, you'll have
Speaker 3: my thoughts and prayers. That's all I got to say there,
Speaker 3: b Pete, looks like you got the final final word
Speaker 3: for the week, So go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well appreciate everybody calling in and another one that can
Speaker 4: go to a Chlli dot com hit the donate button
Speaker 4: if you can. Every little bit helps I know things
Speaker 4: are getting tight when Christmas coming up, but you know
Speaker 4: it's the giving season, so everybody do what little bit
Speaker 4: you can. It's it's all a big help. Other than that,
Speaker 4: looking forward to doing this next week and we'll.
Speaker 3: See you then and if it is at all humanly possible,
Speaker 3: we will do this again next week. I want to
Speaker 3: say again thanks to you know, Jimmy and Chris and
Speaker 3: Pat and be Pete even you know, the people that
Speaker 3: actually stuck with me and help me here. Uh you know,
Speaker 3: And what can I say? Man, I got a lot
Speaker 3: of stories to tell, and in the coming weeks and months,
Speaker 3: hopefully I'll get the time and ability to tell them,
Speaker 3: and hopefully investigators do their jobs correctly, because I think
Speaker 3: they're gonna tell a wild story that I'm going to
Speaker 3: get to retell on here and I'm also going to
Speaker 3: get to fill in some gaps later. There's some unfortunate
Speaker 3: things to it. There's some disappointment. There's definitely some backstabbing
Speaker 3: to it. There's some people that you know, I thought
Speaker 3: we're friends that I now learn I shouldn't even be
Speaker 3: willing to piss on if they're on fire, Just saying
Speaker 3: and there is no end to the ways that people
Speaker 3: will let you down. So do your best to value
Speaker 3: and show appreciation to those that don't. That's all I
Speaker 3: can tell you. That's the best I got to report
Speaker 3: for you. And you know JFK research and all that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm even going to continue with it, man,
Speaker 3: I am at I'm at a weird point. We're gonna
Speaker 3: change up some of these shows. We're gonna try and
Speaker 3: go forward best we can, and if your support is there,
Speaker 3: this will continue. So that's the end of the O'Kelly
Speaker 3: effect for this Friday night, and I appreciate BP, Chris
Speaker 3: and Jimmy James for calling in. Coming up next is
Speaker 3: Aaron Franz with the Age of Transitions, So stay tuned,
Speaker 3: Ocelli dot Com Radio and we'll see you on the
Speaker 3: other side. Goodbye Vance and goodbye spent kent with love
Speaker 3: man from me. Anyway, I hope that your journey is well,
Speaker 3: something that you enjoy and appreciate. I'll miss you. I'll
Speaker 3: see you soon though, and I hope that video Shelly
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