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<v Speaker 1>Stringy live. I mean I heard radio whif. This is

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<v Speaker 1>I on the Ball with Steve Ribera and Jay Gonzalez,

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Winning the Ball here at Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Roberta in today for Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Lemon Hunry and now we have one with

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<v Speaker 2>breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball, Breaking news.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, y'all, Happy Friday out there. From yours truly,

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<v Speaker 3>mister goody two shoes. Starting off with some Olympic news,

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<v Speaker 3>the USA mixed relay team say a world record and

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<v Speaker 3>placed first in gold and therefore by four hundred. The

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<v Speaker 3>team of Vernnon Norwood, sameir, Little Kaylon Brown and Bryce

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<v Speaker 3>Deadman did it with the time of three seven forty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Said bix based on previous performances.

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<v Speaker 3>No, so like man and women's Oh I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>they had.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they have a mix male and females run together

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<v Speaker 4>just the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard the word mixed, so I was that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I guess so kind a sport guy

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<v Speaker 4>on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a good one, not a good I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>I've told people on the show. I'm not a sports

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<v Speaker 2>fan anymore. You you're fan. You athletes are a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>pain in the asses. Why would I follow you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I stayed behind it from away from them, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know you probably have friends with some of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys are just kind of not not great guys.

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<v Speaker 4>I apologize, but explain that one. We got to figure

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<v Speaker 4>it out out.

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<v Speaker 3>See if I can get that more information on that,

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<v Speaker 3>because I barely know enough about it. But I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's a new Olympics. You know, they looked through everything

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<v Speaker 3>after what we went through the last four years and

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<v Speaker 3>all the changes and everything. So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>cool thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And with with highs of highs, there comes lows. The

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<v Speaker 3>USA men's soccer team was eliminated today by.

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<v Speaker 4>Morocco or not even close?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah close.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but I mean they went out there, they competed.

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<v Speaker 2>Before your daughter got into soccer. Did you know anything

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<v Speaker 2>about soccer? Yeah, me too, I didn't know it was

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<v Speaker 2>called that was all sides. What position did you play?

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<v Speaker 4>She played defensive?

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<v Speaker 2>Port? Oh so she was out front?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. On the Olympics men's basketball side. Germany beat France today,

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<v Speaker 3>which kept Greece alive for the Olympic knockout round, but

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of Germany's undefeated, so you're kind of looking

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<v Speaker 3>at a possible opponent for the USA men's team. They've

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<v Speaker 3>been doing good, possibly headed for a collision course with

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<v Speaker 3>the USA team.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they play the women?

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<v Speaker 3>I think they did. I believe they play one early

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<v Speaker 3>this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I can find that, and did did the chase playing

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<v Speaker 2>ger and then play already?

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<v Speaker 3>And simp they played today? I played later today. I

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<v Speaker 3>know they're one two.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>They're one and two or one and one, one and two.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost again. Oh they're not going to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Round then, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's now in the men's volleyball. Is it two

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<v Speaker 4>teams one?

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<v Speaker 2>They have to they have two because I saw the

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<v Speaker 2>second team play yesterday and they won yesterday. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that either, but I guess to have two teams.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I figured it is because they have two women.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to do our researches.

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<v Speaker 2>See mixed mixed volleyball.

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<v Speaker 4>Research with that mixed basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>But look at the three on three.

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<v Speaker 4>I had no idea about that.

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<v Speaker 2>That just started and they're not doing Could you do

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<v Speaker 2>that and they're not doing well?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, honestly, how could we have such a bad

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<v Speaker 4>three on three Because be some talents.

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<v Speaker 2>There is, but they're not pro well. Jimmy ferd was

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the key guys. Good players, guys that

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<v Speaker 2>you would name. No, but they're not NBA guys or not.

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<v Speaker 4>But the three on three used to be x NBA players.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah kind of yeah, well at least one of them was.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the other two. They weren't the final four.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of did an exhibition. But guess what. The

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<v Speaker 2>other places have pretty good. There are other weightlifting or

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<v Speaker 2>or places that sell equipment that do pretty well. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you that. Are there.

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<v Speaker 4>No, we don't show it town.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh look at you monopoly.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, it just turned that way. Come see me serious.

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<v Speaker 4>Series is no longer your business. You put them out

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<v Speaker 4>of business. No, they made that choice. I had nothing

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<v Speaker 4>to do with it. It's a guy here, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead to follow up on the women's basketball. They

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<v Speaker 3>beat Belgium eighty seven seventy four yesterday, so that was okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how about how about the women's gymnastic start again tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's free. There's like five different it's called it free something. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>freestyle freestyle. I think that's different than the Olympics, the

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<v Speaker 4>ones that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just saw because in the Biles kind of winning, but.

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<v Speaker 4>She got an opportunity. They don't get medals for the freestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>That's different. I think that's with the ribbons and stuff. See,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the homework that we don't do. This is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but she's a part of it. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about that because she just won the all around.

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<v Speaker 2>She won, I know that, which means that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>almost almost wrapping up the whole situation because that's a

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<v Speaker 2>different type of thing. And we're gonna get a call

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<v Speaker 2>here saying that we don't know what the hell we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. It would stead be right right because I

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<v Speaker 2>have you bring it up stuff, but don't talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just work here.

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<v Speaker 3>But UH, as some NBA news, the Kobe Bryant Staples

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<v Speaker 3>Center locker UH sold for two point nine million at

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<v Speaker 3>an auction. What's up the locker from two thousand and three?

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<v Speaker 3>Four seasons?

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<v Speaker 2>So we have time, we have time to be as

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<v Speaker 2>I know, you collect stuff, and you have stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>you're in house and blah blah blah. What's the cool

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<v Speaker 2>most thing you have that would be it would be

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<v Speaker 2>worth something.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, I got a few things that were something.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, well I gotta I have a autograph football

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<v Speaker 4>with Roger starback on it. I have a helmet with

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<v Speaker 4>Jim Brown on it. Okay that can I have a

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<v Speaker 4>basketball with she's the basketball coach at U s l A.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, we wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't we would not have a basketball and an autograph book.

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<v Speaker 2>I have that.

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<v Speaker 4>So those are three things.

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<v Speaker 2>That mean something to you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what. Actually, the one autograph that I do

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<v Speaker 4>have that means to me, it's it's it was from

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<v Speaker 4>Randy White that and actually Randy White was playing for

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<v Speaker 4>the Cowboys. It just started. I was a Cowboys fan

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<v Speaker 4>back in the day, and Randy White was just started

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<v Speaker 4>playing for the cowboy Boys, and and Ricky was on

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<v Speaker 4>his recruiting ship at Maryland and Randy played that and

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<v Speaker 4>so Ricky got he had this this shirt of something

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<v Speaker 4>and he had ran the right autographic for me. And

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<v Speaker 4>that means something to me because I was a big

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<v Speaker 4>Cowboy fan.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you it's it's a shirt, a shirt with

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<v Speaker 2>his autograph, just a sample shirt. Yeah, framed or.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, I got I had it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like folded up. Okay, okay, cool?

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah that that was about doing and stand up

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<v Speaker 4>and man, I have other things I got stuff like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's just collective, is that it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>You got going In the NFL news Seahawks. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Smith got positive news on his injury. They said he

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<v Speaker 3>should have been missing any more time than the practice.

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<v Speaker 3>You know Smith, quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>The quarterback. Okay, he was hurt. He got injured at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the year, didn't it. Yeah. How about

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<v Speaker 4>the Cowboys? Man, it's seas Lamb. Is he gonna? Are

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<v Speaker 4>you gonna sign on?

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<v Speaker 3>If you did?

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<v Speaker 4>What it matter? You must be a Reskin no Commander.

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<v Speaker 2>Fan, a Cowboy fan. Not really so I used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in New Mexico. The only thing you

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<v Speaker 2>saw was the Cowboys. I got over that a long

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<v Speaker 2>time ago. The fact that he was there last weekend

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<v Speaker 2>and I called them the they're the delusionals because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when we were both young men, the last time they

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<v Speaker 2>played in the Super.

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<v Speaker 4>Bowl exactly right, and you know, and and the only

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<v Speaker 4>reason I became a cowboy fan because I didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to be a redskin everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Else in my house my dad was askin.

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<v Speaker 4>We're from Virginia, so that was the team back there,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I wanted to be different, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>became this big cowboy fan. And you know, and the

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<v Speaker 4>stallbacks and well it was okay when you were younger

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<v Speaker 4>was great, Thursty, Oh my god. We had the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>fights in.

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<v Speaker 2>My house, especially especially when the quarterback replaced who replaced

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<v Speaker 2>starback that.

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<v Speaker 4>You remember you got in a fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Fight. Eventually he saved him, he saved and then he

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<v Speaker 2>got in the fight and then he was gone.

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<v Speaker 4>He was yeah, because he's gotten to fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't know you were a Dallas Cabs. Moved

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<v Speaker 2>to Dallas out of college and possibly end up there

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<v Speaker 2>and worked at the paper. And do you realize that's

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<v Speaker 2>too big of a market for a kid?

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<v Speaker 4>Now? Did I see something about Jerry selling his team

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<v Speaker 4>to Crunky the Rams or is that fake news?

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<v Speaker 2>That's gotta be fake.

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<v Speaker 4>That's gotta be that's fake.

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<v Speaker 2>What sites are you on?

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<v Speaker 4>Fake? But I saw something I did. I saw something

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<v Speaker 4>like that. He the deal is a solid, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Yeah, he has nothing else, but this team to live.

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<v Speaker 4>For well first and foremost. He can't sell that team

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<v Speaker 4>to his own. So now you know, now I know

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<v Speaker 4>it's fake. You answered your old question. I did. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe there was there was some hope and belief that

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<v Speaker 4>new ownership can make the difference in this team.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, that's a solution.

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<v Speaker 4>This that's where it all started. Ownership. She's been ownership.

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<v Speaker 4>But we got time. And then when I played for

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<v Speaker 4>the Indianapolis coach and I played for the family field

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<v Speaker 4>and my god, you tell my ownership. And honestly, the

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<v Speaker 2>That was just plato.

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<v Speaker 4>He was practicing one day, right and he brings his

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<v Speaker 4>We've just moved out a way out here, right office

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<v Speaker 4>It was awful and and it just goes to show you, man,

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<v Speaker 2>Sure he went on the field. No, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>Usually happened.

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<v Speaker 3>That's in some college football news Baylor consulting. Gary Patterson

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I saw that. That just happened today.

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<v Speaker 4>So because he couldn't be the head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably didn't believe in his philosophy.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was with the Texas Texas Longhorns before that.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, he's a pretty good coach.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you'll go back to Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that probably take all the hell.

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<v Speaker 2>your pockets too, trying to give me some money. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a he's a character.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, he's a character. He's in the right place.

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<v Speaker 3>But today is the official first day for Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about.

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<v Speaker 4>The teams that's coming into the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, pretty much?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, he's pretty much.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the Big twelve. That's what it says.

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<v Speaker 2>So official.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a line in there where he says space is

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<v Speaker 3>there's this whole beef between serious beef being like between

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<v Speaker 4>Whose country?

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<v Speaker 3>Or like what whose territory is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they showed that at the meeting this morning, and

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<v Speaker 3>Oh someone, there's a video out there of.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh someone took the video, okay, because what we saw

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<v Speaker 3>There's a video out there of someone talking about like, hey, welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the exes and oh it's Steve Rivera

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I have the ball here Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve your Lamont we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>her on right, okay, so go ahead kill that line

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<v Speaker 2>Jenny Kraska. She's the new psychologist at u.

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<v Speaker 4>A Sports you used to help outter this session.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna go to your wife and say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>That stuff was old stuff. It's about your time.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't good for Hello? Is this Jenny?

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<v Speaker 12>Yes? This is Jenny.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic, thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 4>We need you, miss Jenny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have I have a lot of people. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this time you're you have Lamont Hondley year. I don't

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<v Speaker 12>Yes we have met. Okay, yeah, okay, God bless you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, I'm sure, yeah, I'm using your I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>I always and I'm Steve Rivera. I love what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked to your predecessor a lot because I believe

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<v Speaker 12>for all athletes, especially at the elite level. Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>And you played forty years ago. Sorry to say that

432
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<v Speaker 2>forty years ago and you're probably not even twenty five, Jenny,

433
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<v Speaker 2>But how how do you think it's changed since the

434
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<v Speaker 2>time Lamont played Today?

435
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<v Speaker 12>It's changed a lot the landscape has changed, I believe

436
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<v Speaker 12>in a positive way. Even when I was a former

437
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<v Speaker 12>college athlete as well, So even from when I was playing,

438
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<v Speaker 12>it's way more supported to talk about mental health and

439
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<v Speaker 12>mental performance. It's more integrated, respected at these elite levels,

440
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<v Speaker 12>and it's more accessible, which is great for athletes. I

441
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<v Speaker 12>didn't have it. I doubt you had it either back then.

442
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<v Speaker 12>So it's an excellent movement that we've had, and it's

443
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<v Speaker 12>becoming more and more a priority.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think it was. It was more taboo to

445
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<v Speaker 4>talk that way, you mean, to put that out in front.

446
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<v Speaker 4>And I was speaking to Steve earlier. I can recall

447
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<v Speaker 4>when we had a gentleman with common and and have

448
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<v Speaker 4>all of us just lie down on a on a

449
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<v Speaker 4>football or the gymnasium floor and close eyes and think

450
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<v Speaker 4>good thoughts and do all these different things and whatnot.

451
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<v Speaker 4>I was like, why the heck am I doing this?

452
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<v Speaker 4>You know? I mean, how is this going to help

453
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<v Speaker 4>me tackle somebody?

454
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<v Speaker 12>You know?

455
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<v Speaker 4>And so it wasn't to me back in those days.

456
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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't mainly, I mean, you don't do this, you know,

457
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<v Speaker 4>But I do believe it's very important. It's very important

458
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<v Speaker 4>to help your game and any any game you play.

459
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<v Speaker 4>I think it's very important to push yourself mentally in

460
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<v Speaker 4>that position so you can see the game happen before

461
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<v Speaker 4>the game is played.

462
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<v Speaker 12>Yep, exactly, It's just part of the preparation.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Does each person like you, the people who come in

464
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<v Speaker 2>have different philosophies or it's it's a standard philosophy and

465
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<v Speaker 2>you're there to help the kids.

466
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<v Speaker 12>Great question. Our team, we are a team of four

467
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<v Speaker 12>sports psychologists and providers. We have some different training and

468
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<v Speaker 12>different education, different areas of expertise, but overall, the philosophy

469
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<v Speaker 12>is pretty consistent that we prioritize and see our athletes

470
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<v Speaker 12>as humans and individuals first and take care of them

471
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<v Speaker 12>and their mental health. And then we also see them

472
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<v Speaker 12>as this added layer of a high performer, and how

473
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<v Speaker 12>do we also take care of them within the context

474
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<v Speaker 12>of being a high performer and an elite athlete.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me question, what time period did this become really

476
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<v Speaker 4>relevant in regards to having a person like yourself on

477
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<v Speaker 4>staff or needing a person like yourself on safe I mean,

478
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<v Speaker 4>what is it that happened that all of a sudden

479
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<v Speaker 4>this had to be a muss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, great question. So the MLB, Major League Baseball, I

482
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<v Speaker 12>think they were the first professional organization to really prioritize

483
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<v Speaker 12>mental health and mental skills. They're the first org to

484
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<v Speaker 12>have a sports psychologist or a mental skills clinician mandated

485
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<v Speaker 12>to be on staff. So they were a big time movement.

486
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<v Speaker 12>And then I think over the past ten years there's

487
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<v Speaker 12>been a really big push from professional and collegiate athletes

488
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<v Speaker 12>speaking out about their own mental health how it impacts

489
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<v Speaker 12>their performance. So seeing that has certainly helped change the landscape.

490
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<v Speaker 12>And then unfortunately, just due to the level of acuity

491
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<v Speaker 12>and increase and concern for mental health that we're seeing

492
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<v Speaker 12>in the college population, the NCAA has put out a

493
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<v Speaker 12>mandate essentially to have a mental a designated mental health

494
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<v Speaker 12>provider on staff for college students.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes sense to me, especially in baseball. And you know

496
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<v Speaker 2>this a month back in the day, and this should

497
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<v Speaker 2>happen way before. Remember Steve, Steve, Steve no no second

498
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<v Speaker 2>basement for the Dodgers. It was that Steve Gouty was

499
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<v Speaker 2>second basement. He had the yips. Couldn't throw the ball

500
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<v Speaker 2>the first base. Simple it's throwing the ball for the

501
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<v Speaker 2>first base, and you're thinking he just couldn't do it

502
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<v Speaker 2>because he's mentally something happened. And then golfers who can't

503
00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>hit the two foot buttons, right, So is that kind

504
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<v Speaker 2>of that's obvious stuff, right, But there's more to it.

505
00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:13.680
<v Speaker 2>There's more to it than that.

506
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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it's very complex and individualized. And look at Simone Biles.

507
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<v Speaker 12>I think she's a perfect example of this right now.

508
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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, twists.

509
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<v Speaker 2>To overcome.

510
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you use the word mental health. Obviously that work

511
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<v Speaker 4>can go pretty much anywhere. But then yet, now you

512
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<v Speaker 4>do you find yourself as far as being in position

513
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<v Speaker 4>you in that kids use that against the game In

514
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<v Speaker 4>regards to I can say, use mental health as a

515
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<v Speaker 4>reason not to do whereas mentally they they're they're really

516
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<v Speaker 4>not mentally in a bad situation.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, great question. I can speak on what we do

518
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<v Speaker 12>here at University of Arizona. So we work with our

519
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.960
<v Speaker 12>student athletes and our coaches in a way that we

520
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<v Speaker 12>never want to enable an athlete to use mental health

521
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<v Speaker 12>as an excuse per se. I think that's a misconception.

522
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<v Speaker 12>We encourage the student athletes to take initiative in taking

523
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<v Speaker 12>care of themselves, right, and we support them in that,

524
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<v Speaker 12>but we also hold them accountable, like what are you

525
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<v Speaker 12>doing to better your mental health and better yourself? That's

526
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<v Speaker 12>the key point for us. How are we working towards

527
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<v Speaker 12>getting through this and improving? And we work together as

528
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<v Speaker 12>a medical team, We work with coaches, we work with athletes.

529
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<v Speaker 12>We take a very holistic approach to help hold the

530
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<v Speaker 12>athlete accountable and move forward. But I do think it's

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<v Speaker 12>a little bit of a misconception. I'm sure it happens

532
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<v Speaker 12>that some people could potentially use it as an use,

533
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 12>but overall that's how we work around it. At Arizona,

534
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<v Speaker 12>Steve Sachs.

535
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<v Speaker 2>Was the guy Steve Sacks.

536
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 4>You googled it.

537
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<v Speaker 13>The name.

538
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<v Speaker 2>I did google your name. I don't. You didn't get much,

539
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<v Speaker 2>so somebody else, How have you been doing this?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, So I've been at University of Arizona for two years.

541
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<v Speaker 12>Prior I was at Washington State and Arizona State unfortunately

542
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:35.400
<v Speaker 12>for two years. So I've been actively working for four

543
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:38.680
<v Speaker 12>years in the field, and then prior to that, got

544
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:43.240
<v Speaker 12>my doctorate over a five year span and worked with

545
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.079
<v Speaker 12>student athletes and specialized in this along the way. So

546
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:49.519
<v Speaker 12>a good, good chunk of time and I love it,

547
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.839
<v Speaker 12>super passionate about it being a former college athlete myself too,

548
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 12>it's really meaningful work to me.

549
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 2>So because you're a former athlete, we're at just what

550
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<v Speaker 2>was the sport?

551
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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I'm a former college soccer player. I played a

552
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<v Speaker 12>small school in southern California.

553
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, so good two questions. The thing that I've

554
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<v Speaker 2>observed most, at least I've heard too, having been a

555
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.440
<v Speaker 2>sports where depression is a huge deal in college with

556
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 2>all the pressures involved in school and life and all that.

557
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<v Speaker 2>And one, now you worked pre nil and now they're

558
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<v Speaker 2>making money, So what's the difference with that as well?

559
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.599
<v Speaker 2>So both depression that's one issue, and now the pre

560
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<v Speaker 2>money and now the post money.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, great, great question. Our athletes present with a lot

562
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 12>of different things. Depression is certainly something that we work

563
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:43.839
<v Speaker 12>with frequently. Anxiety is also a big one, So managing

564
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.240
<v Speaker 12>the pressures related to performing in their sport, and that

565
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<v Speaker 12>includes NIL.

566
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<v Speaker 2>Right.

567
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<v Speaker 12>You know a lot of our athletes are also providing

568
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.480
<v Speaker 12>for their families and people back home, so there's family

569
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:59.160
<v Speaker 12>pressure even behind the scenes that's going on. So NIL

570
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:04.799
<v Speaker 12>and the ever changing landscape of what college athletic finances

571
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.319
<v Speaker 12>is going to look like. It's just an added layer

572
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 12>of stress. There's great benefits that comes with it, but

573
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.440
<v Speaker 12>there's also a level of pressure and stress that comes

574
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<v Speaker 12>along too. So it's certainly something that we talk about

575
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<v Speaker 12>frequently with with our athletes.

576
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<v Speaker 4>Question Jenny, Yeah, within the within the landscape, male female,

577
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<v Speaker 4>do you find yourself, you know, dealing with male or

578
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<v Speaker 4>female more or less? And why?

579
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<v Speaker 12>Good question. At University of Arizona, we're highly utilized and

580
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:46.720
<v Speaker 12>because that is because we're highly embedded and respected and

581
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:50.759
<v Speaker 12>valued within the department. So I've met you actually because

582
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.599
<v Speaker 12>I'm the lead provider for our football team. So I'm

583
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.359
<v Speaker 12>out at practices, at games, I travel, I'm in the

584
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:01.599
<v Speaker 12>training room. I am very very supported by coaches and staff.

585
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.160
<v Speaker 12>I'm just another part of the team, part of the squad.

586
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 12>I've sit next to coach on Lee on the plane.

587
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 12>So because of that, I'm able to see more of

588
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.039
<v Speaker 12>our football guys what is historically an underserved population and

589
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 12>there's a ton of stigma that exists for them. I'm

590
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 12>able to build those relationships so they feel more comfortable

591
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 12>seeing me. So fortunately, at University of Arizona, it's about

592
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<v Speaker 12>a fifty to fifty split between female and male athletes

593
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<v Speaker 12>that we.

594
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<v Speaker 2>See so I'm sure in your studies these guys are

595
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<v Speaker 2>are are superlative athletes, elite athletes, in fact, most many

596
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<v Speaker 2>of them. Is it mirror what we see day to

597
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<v Speaker 2>day in normal people's life, like me or other people.

598
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:47.119
<v Speaker 4>You're not athlete.

599
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.880
<v Speaker 12>So they're humans, right, Like, they're just like us. I

600
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.559
<v Speaker 12>come from, very like they're people first, and then they

601
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:04.839
<v Speaker 12>have these additional stressors, right, So these athletes have family, stress, relationships, stuff, academics,

602
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 12>just regular clinical things like the general population has depression

603
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 12>and anxiety, adjustment, trauma, all of that. And then there's

604
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.880
<v Speaker 12>the added layer of the pressures and the time demands

605
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.680
<v Speaker 12>and everything that comes with being a college athlete. So yes,

606
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 12>they're humans just like us, very high achieving humans, and

607
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 12>there's all these additional layers that make it even harder.

608
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<v Speaker 2>So do you have a solution for a co host

609
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<v Speaker 2>who doesn't listen? That solution for what for a co

610
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<v Speaker 2>host who doesn't listen?

611
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:39.359
<v Speaker 4>And you called him human?

612
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeahs, but no, I don't.

613
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<v Speaker 12>It's all about working with with people, right Like I'm

614
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 12>in the field of being a human and also working

615
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 12>collaboratively with coaches, athletes, everybody, just support.

616
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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear a specific thing. But you've been

617
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>here for four years, You've done this for a while now,

618
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>great education, Anything surprise you that you've learned along the way.

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<v Speaker 12>That's a good question. I think the deeper I get

620
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 12>into working in athletics, I'm able to just see the

621
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<v Speaker 12>depth the true death and the demands that these athletes face,

622
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<v Speaker 12>and it just continues to kind of build every year. Honestly,

623
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:43.079
<v Speaker 12>it just seems to continue to increase over time. And

624
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 12>the resiliency that these athletes have is something that I

625
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.359
<v Speaker 12>knew from the jump that it's there. Being an athlete,

626
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.759
<v Speaker 12>you know, you learn that resiliency. But with the added pressures,

627
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<v Speaker 12>I think just seeing how resilient that these athletes are

628
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<v Speaker 12>to manage all the things, the ever changing landscape, I

629
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<v Speaker 12>think that has just been really pleasant and empowering surprise

630
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<v Speaker 12>to see.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like more money, more money, more problems exactly, you know, exactly, Jenny.

632
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<v Speaker 4>I think your position is very important, you know, because

633
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<v Speaker 4>because this, like you said, this day and time, I mean,

634
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<v Speaker 4>all kids, I mean all kids got so many edit

635
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 4>pressures that's coming on them, and you know, and and

636
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 4>and a lot of these kids are like not just

637
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 4>taking care of themselves. They've taken care of family members.

638
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 4>That comes additional pressures, you know. So I think the

639
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:36.519
<v Speaker 4>road that you play, you know, is very important. It's

640
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 4>just like being on the coaching staff and and one

641
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 4>of the coaches that's over there.

642
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<v Speaker 12>So I applaud you, thank you, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>So what point did you decide you want to do this.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm a little bit rare. I knew pretty early on.

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<v Speaker 12>I think I was a freshman or sophomore in undergrad.

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<v Speaker 12>I loved psychology, and then I did a little bit

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<v Speaker 12>of research on what some options were to get into

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<v Speaker 12>the field, and I sound sports psych and I was

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<v Speaker 12>that was. It came over.

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<v Speaker 2>Over time. Don't deal with coach Hunley. Deal with Brothernley

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll really put you to work.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. But there's more, honey, So it's trust and

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<v Speaker 4>we can keep you employed.

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<v Speaker 12>How you get I love then they're great people.

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<v Speaker 2>Six brothers, six brothers. You'd make a ton of money.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh wow, okay, so I got some more to beat.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing I know about you feel is Pablo Dog.

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<v Speaker 4>I learned that in in psychology one on one.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jenny Dog, funny, fun to have you Jenny but

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<v Speaker 2>probably use you a lot as we go through the year.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, you have my number.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a bunch you guys.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Take Jenny Presca, I agree with you at this time

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<v Speaker 2>of year party even when you played it so it

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<v Speaker 2>was not known, but it was still there, right, just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't show up. Uh much needed.

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<v Speaker 4>As much more than ever. I mean, like because more

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<v Speaker 4>is given to these kids, right, and they have to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to you know, be able to manage it

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<v Speaker 4>and having someone like her to allow them to manage

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>They have four I'm surprised that they have the university.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what. When she said because she's dealing with

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<v Speaker 4>the guys more, she feels that that's more need for

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<v Speaker 4>the well, she ain't say in those terms, but she

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<v Speaker 4>finds that there's more guys that she's dealing with versus females.

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<v Speaker 4>Well maybe because it's his numbers and then she deal

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<v Speaker 4>with on a regular base. But I still, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I still would say that, you know, guys need it

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<v Speaker 4>more than females. I think I think, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of the females they kind of

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<v Speaker 4>balanced it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's go to the other side and come back

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<v Speaker 1>Streaming live on the iHeartRadio app. This is I on

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<v Speaker 1>the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fourteen to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I in the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me

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<v Speaker 2>is Payn Neck, Lamont Leywan is with me for fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>more minutes. Somebody Gody thinks, give me the hell out

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<v Speaker 2>of here.

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<v Speaker 4>We know people. Yeah, yeah, you can call it Jenny anytime.

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<v Speaker 4>Jenny's here to help us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you're to call out the show. What can I

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<v Speaker 2>get my personal appointment?

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<v Speaker 4>Who need a beer? When you got Genny?

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<v Speaker 2>The cost of cope that you get four beers that well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know beers going up to James. James, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that stuff. I love that stuff. But you

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<v Speaker 2>asked a couple of good questions, mister Unley.

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<v Speaker 4>I can pull everyone every now and if you let

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<v Speaker 4>me know who the guests, I do research.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't do that, so.

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<v Speaker 4>At least I could be you know, we have some

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<v Speaker 4>understanding what's in.

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<v Speaker 2>Front of you were good to today with with our

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<v Speaker 2>guy Jake Fisher, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Is different, you know, and I've been in the locker

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<v Speaker 4>room together. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we talked about this with women and men.

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<v Speaker 2>I texted Kevin Leeman maybe to see if he could

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<v Speaker 2>call us in and give us his observations in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of men and women. And uh, that's a why do

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<v Speaker 2>you say men would probably I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You had you had a girl who played sports. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a guy, a son who played in college sports,

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<v Speaker 2>that I would think that there's a lot of No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna go here. I'm not gonna go here

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<v Speaker 2>because it's issues issues on teams and issues on women's teams.

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<v Speaker 4>But well, there's different issues on both sides. You're right

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<v Speaker 4>as far as and some people think, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 4>more female issues than risk right on. My My thinking

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<v Speaker 4>is this, I think women are more balanced than men

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<v Speaker 4>period and mentally in life balance.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by balance?

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<v Speaker 4>As far as they know what they want, they know

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<v Speaker 4>where they're going, and they can make it happen. We

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<v Speaker 4>as young guys, we chasing those women first and foremost.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, at least I'll give you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give it into a big problem. Yeah, okay, So

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<v Speaker 4>that's why I'm saying. I think I think young men

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<v Speaker 4>need that help quicker and faster than the females would

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<v Speaker 4>want to need it. Young men choose not to want

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<v Speaker 4>that help or accept that help, so they.

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<v Speaker 2>Think something.

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<v Speaker 4>Get is what whatnot is keeping them want to go

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<v Speaker 4>that direction. So I think most males you know, don't

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<v Speaker 4>even consider, you know, trying to get some psychological help

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<v Speaker 4>in regards to you know, if it's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>not mental health per se or whatever they might term

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<v Speaker 4>it nowadays. But most guys seem that that's a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no way I can be that way. And if

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<v Speaker 4>if I tell my friends, you know, they gonna think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a sissy. The female. They are open with themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>If I got a problem, I'd have.

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<v Speaker 2>To Well, you're speaking from a man's perspective.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking from a man's perspective that has daughters.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, and you have more credibility there than me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would like to ask a female about that

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<v Speaker 2>to see is this accurate? Is it not accurate?

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<v Speaker 4>This is only no, no no.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll say this because you there's a line here.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you've got somebody here likes solve this issue. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>you on the air, eye on the ball.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey, Steve Lamont, this is uh, this is done done?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you just done? He calls him.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm all right. I wanted to talk to Lamont's point

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<v Speaker 13>about the women and the and the stresses that they

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<v Speaker 13>have to go through. They just had a situation a

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<v Speaker 13>few years ago with the women's soccer team that it

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<v Speaker 13>never came out when when the coach was here until

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<v Speaker 13>after he got fired at Florida. Yeah, and then he

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<v Speaker 13>had like he had he had his players on certain

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<v Speaker 13>diets because he wanted them to look a certain way,

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<v Speaker 13>and they had to lose weight, and there was girls

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<v Speaker 13>that were quitting the team, and and and transferring out

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<v Speaker 13>out and things like that, and that never came out

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<v Speaker 13>when he was here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well wait wait, you know this because it happened at Florida, right.

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<v Speaker 4>But it didn't came out in regards did he come

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<v Speaker 4>out here where they.

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<v Speaker 13>Did not come out here? Well after after he was

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<v Speaker 13>I mean I would I would have remembered hearing that

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<v Speaker 13>those stories.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's my point. Did you it never came out here?

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<v Speaker 2>You're just assuming that happened here?

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<v Speaker 13>No, because after after the Florida thing, there was some

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<v Speaker 13>there was there was girls that had played at Arizona

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<v Speaker 13>under him, and they said, yeah, we had we had

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<v Speaker 13>to follow that same thing. And the stories didn't come

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<v Speaker 13>out here until after he was the guy was fired

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<v Speaker 13>at Florida for that stuff, right right, And so I

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<v Speaker 13>think I think that all these kids and then here

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<v Speaker 13>we go again, Steve. Now they're kids again, right right now,

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<v Speaker 13>they're kids. They're not don't just because the nil but

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<v Speaker 13>these young people, I mean, they're away from home, they're

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<v Speaker 13>having to deal with all this stuff on their own.

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<v Speaker 13>They don't have you know, they don't have that support,

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<v Speaker 13>or maybe sometimes they don't think they don't have that support.

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<v Speaker 4>And they have to listen to their coaches and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>because that's that's the authority that's in front of them.

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<v Speaker 4>And especially I mean, you know, in this well I

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<v Speaker 4>can speak of it because my daughter was on that team.

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<v Speaker 4>My daughter was actually uh her freshman year. She was

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<v Speaker 4>on the team under Tony. Tony was her first coach

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<v Speaker 4>and okay, and my daughter was there for one semester,

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<v Speaker 4>one semester. And when I first introduced myself to Tony,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, Tony, first and foremost, this is what you're

856
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 4>gonna have. You're gonna have a father that does not

857
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.239
<v Speaker 4>intrude in your sport. But I'm gonna take and give

858
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.000
<v Speaker 4>you my daughter's hand, and you take care of my baby.

859
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 4>That's all I ask, you, know you. And and I

860
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.039
<v Speaker 4>remember Tony calling me at the end of the season

861
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 4>and letting me know that, well, I don't think your

862
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.119
<v Speaker 4>daughter is just this and this and good enough to

863
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:06.519
<v Speaker 4>play on this team. And there was some things that

864
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.559
<v Speaker 4>was spoken. Now that I know think about it, it

865
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 4>is in the lines of what happened in Florida, not

866
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.760
<v Speaker 4>directly to my baby, but in a way he was

867
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 4>trying to push my daughter off the team, My daughter

868
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.800
<v Speaker 4>and a few other young ladies off the team because

869
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 4>he had some other kids that he wanted to bring

870
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 4>in to fill in that scholarship spot. And so I said, well, Tony,

871
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 4>first and foremost, I don't raise a baby. I hadn't

872
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:34.880
<v Speaker 4>raise a kid as a quitter. So I'm gonna have

873
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.400
<v Speaker 4>a talk to my baby and see what's going on.

874
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:39.559
<v Speaker 4>Because you're not talking to the average parent. You're talking

875
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:42.079
<v Speaker 4>about trying to know the system here. So I will

876
00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 4>respect you if you're telling me you need the money.

877
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 4>And my daughter is one of these people that's going

878
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.639
<v Speaker 4>to be pushed out. And so my daughter and I

879
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.320
<v Speaker 4>think it was two or three other girls that was

880
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 4>on that team knew that they wasn't wanted. So my

881
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 4>daughter and these other young ladies, they say, we quit,

882
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 4>and that's what he was doing. He was leading them

883
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:06.559
<v Speaker 4>up to quit. So they end up quitting. And and

884
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 4>at that point of time, I mean, positive things did

885
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 4>happen for my baby because she went to Pima and

886
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:15.559
<v Speaker 4>became college football it's a junior college All American, and

887
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 4>got a full scholarship at Utah and finish her career there.

888
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 4>But those things did take place and do take place,

889
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.400
<v Speaker 4>and you know, like you say, you're dealing with young

890
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:28.679
<v Speaker 4>girls or young kids in general, people in general, who

891
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 4>has to deal with that? And you got a leader

892
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 4>who's supposed to be the coach who's doing things like that.

893
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:38.039
<v Speaker 4>And the kids, some kids didn't have what have what

894
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:42.519
<v Speaker 4>my daughter had, You met my support and so now

895
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 4>you got these kids with their back against the wall.

896
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.079
<v Speaker 4>And and that's where miss Jenny comes in place, right,

897
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, that's the beauty of having a person like

898
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.840
<v Speaker 4>her on that staff, so these kids can get their

899
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:55.480
<v Speaker 4>mentor right.

900
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:58.559
<v Speaker 2>So, so, Donnie, what was your point You're calling it

901
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.320
<v Speaker 2>the women's have more issues.

902
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 13>Or I was just I was just saying it's it

903
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:09.079
<v Speaker 13>probably likely is, like the guest said, is pretty pretty

904
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 13>down the middle. I do think that that girls are

905
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:19.239
<v Speaker 13>more strong willed earlier than boys. And I do think

906
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.159
<v Speaker 13>that if if they do have a support system with

907
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:26.679
<v Speaker 13>them and everything, I think that they have the better

908
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:31.039
<v Speaker 13>tools to thrive easier. I agree with I agree with

909
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:32.440
<v Speaker 13>Lamont on that one for sure.

910
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Stick on the lines, even though I want another call.

911
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.079
<v Speaker 2>But Lamont, Okay, So we've talked about this a few times.

912
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:40.519
<v Speaker 2>The kids are getting money, not a little money, They're

913
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:44.239
<v Speaker 2>getting a lot of money. Are they Are they fair game?

914
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Now to be criticized by people like the media. Me

915
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:47.880
<v Speaker 2>need the media.

916
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.599
<v Speaker 4>I got it all. No, no, they don't make a difference, man,

917
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 4>just because these kids get what they get I mean professional,

918
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 4>but they're still kids, they're still young kids, and they people,

919
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.599
<v Speaker 4>and they are performers. So you make that choice to

920
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:04.960
<v Speaker 4>go spend a dollar to watch him play. So why

921
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 4>would you sit there and criticize somebody because you made

922
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.079
<v Speaker 4>that choice to spend the dollar. If you was good enough,

923
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 4>you'll but be on the field playing too. So their kids,

924
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean when it comes to criticizing, I mean that's

925
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.719
<v Speaker 4>to me. I hate that. I can't. I mean I'm

926
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:21.920
<v Speaker 4>in the stands and I heard people talk about, oh

927
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.920
<v Speaker 4>I can do that. Why you do that? You do well?

928
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:26.719
<v Speaker 4>If you can do it, you'll be out there playing.

929
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 4>You can't do it. They need that support, they need

930
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.719
<v Speaker 4>the cheering so it can turn over and become a

931
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:33.920
<v Speaker 4>win and all.

932
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 2>The loss your thoughts and your thoughts too quick.

933
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 13>I agree with that to the point of until they

934
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:45.159
<v Speaker 13>start playing games like the price socks deal. When he

935
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.199
<v Speaker 13>tweeted out his jersey, his Arizona jersey for sale and

936
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 13>stuff right, and he knew he was going to transfer

937
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Speaker 13>out when you if you do shady stuff, then your

938
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 13>fair game. That's what I say. But I agree, I

939
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.480
<v Speaker 13>agree with you, Lama, And I'd like to add that

940
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 13>if you're a kid playing D one sports, in my opinion,

941
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.800
<v Speaker 13>you're an lead athlete because not everybody can play at

942
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:15.239
<v Speaker 13>D one, absolutely and and and the same goes for

943
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:18.840
<v Speaker 13>D two because you know, just just think of how

944
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:21.119
<v Speaker 13>many high schools are there in the country and how

945
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 13>many colleges are there for these kids to continue.

946
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:27.840
<v Speaker 4>But just because just because you're an lead athlete, that

947
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:31.480
<v Speaker 4>doesn't make you a target, a target for anybody. You know,

948
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:34.000
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, that just doesn't make your time because

949
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 4>you're on a stage and you're performing, and you're performing

950
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 4>because you know, for the fans.

951
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I hear you, and I kind of I agree with you.

952
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know. They're making a ton

953
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 2>of money. They're professionals kind of now without being professionals.

954
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.519
<v Speaker 4>So what they wasn't professional last week when they were

955
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:53.920
<v Speaker 4>not making the money? Did you yell?

956
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 2>And I'm talking about more media, how they can say

957
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.320
<v Speaker 2>this guy didn't perform up to his capability.

958
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 4>To his dollars dollars capability is still there. Okay, so

959
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:06.880
<v Speaker 4>up to the dollar amount he's getting paid.

960
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Correct, So then we're going.

961
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 4>To measure a guy's snaps. They saw how much money

962
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:13.159
<v Speaker 4>he is probably probably Well.

963
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.760
<v Speaker 5>The thing is to those TeVeS is the media has

964
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:20.679
<v Speaker 5>always done that. Yes, yes, you know, because who's like

965
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:23.119
<v Speaker 5>they say, who's the most popular kid on the you know,

966
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.960
<v Speaker 5>who's the most popular player on the football team? Is

967
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 5>the second second string quarterbacks?

968
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.320
<v Speaker 13>If the first stream guy isn't getting it done, let's

969
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 13>get the other guy in. Yeah, yeah, well you know,

970
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:39.480
<v Speaker 13>so that's that has always happened. I just don't want

971
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 13>I just don't want to see a student athlete, you know,

972
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Speaker 13>acting up and thinking they're above things and then seeking

973
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:48.760
<v Speaker 13>that they're above any type of criticism that they get

974
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:53.840
<v Speaker 13>because like it or not, they're professionals. If they're making money,

975
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 13>they're professionals.

976
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:59.079
<v Speaker 4>But I think the attitude is within the person if

977
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.960
<v Speaker 4>he has dollars on, so if that person gonna be

978
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 4>an ugly person, he or she gonna be an ugly person, regardless.

979
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:07.159
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about the criticizer.

980
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:11.400
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no player becoming the player the player him or her. Okay,

981
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:13.000
<v Speaker 4>they may be, it's not based on.

982
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:16.840
<v Speaker 13>You look at the character of the guys that stuck

983
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:19.360
<v Speaker 13>it out to play with to stay wildcats, and to

984
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.760
<v Speaker 13>stay together for this next season, right you think of that?

985
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 13>Those are high character guys.

986
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:26.199
<v Speaker 4>Ye, perfect example right there.

987
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:29.159
<v Speaker 13>Okay, they're going, Hey, I love my guys. I love

988
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 13>playing with my guys.

989
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay done.

990
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:33.639
<v Speaker 13>You know, why are we gonna mess this up? Let's

991
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:34.280
<v Speaker 13>keep dancing.

992
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Donny, thanks for the call.

993
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.280
<v Speaker 13>Thanks guys, good call.

994
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Good call. Kevin's probably not gonna call, but fifty to

995
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 2>fifty I'll give you that because it's the kind of

996
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 2>the smart answer women to men issues. And you have women,

997
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 2>so so you did you know soccer was kind of

998
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.639
<v Speaker 2>the way they were. They were good under Tony. He

999
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:58.199
<v Speaker 2>didn't get that job because they were bad.

1000
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:01.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well obviously, mean, you know, he did do some

1001
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:06.760
<v Speaker 4>good things here in regards to points and loss and

1002
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:08.960
<v Speaker 4>and and and that's where Florida came to get it.

1003
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 4>And then obviously Florida knew what they got eventually. Yeah,

1004
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:16.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, I didn't know how deep it was, honestly,

1005
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 4>of off that end of it as far as you know,

1006
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.280
<v Speaker 4>because that wasn't directed to my kid, you know, at

1007
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:26.639
<v Speaker 4>least my daughter never said that, but I knew some things.

1008
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:28.639
<v Speaker 4>Some things was going on as far as the character

1009
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.239
<v Speaker 4>him as a coach, especially the conversation him and I had.

1010
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:35.079
<v Speaker 2>With my daughter after the season after that.

1011
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:36.159
<v Speaker 4>First did she.

1012
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Played much her first year?

1013
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.039
<v Speaker 4>She didn't play much first and and and his big

1014
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.519
<v Speaker 4>thing was that he don't think she's big enough, strong enough.

1015
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 4>She has I mean, she's one of the smartest kids

1016
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.199
<v Speaker 4>on the team. And so and my my comeback is this,

1017
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:53.400
<v Speaker 4>it's your job to coach. Mark your job to get

1018
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:56.559
<v Speaker 4>a stronger you know, in the weight room, that's your job.

1019
00:52:56.760 --> 00:52:58.559
<v Speaker 4>Coach up, coach, coaches.

1020
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:01.639
<v Speaker 2>Better, coaches better. Another point of us, you got to

1021
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I got to friend for you on a good note. Yeah,

1022
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm not. I'm leaving right there right. Thank

1023
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:11.679
<v Speaker 2>you for joining me today.

1024
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 4>We're not done.

1025
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:19.119
<v Speaker 2>I always love having you in. You know that. You

1026
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 2>know I love you. You know.

1027
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:22.360
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate it.

1028
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you for good stuff. Good Thanks for

1029
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:27.320
<v Speaker 2>the calls and and and the conversations for the people.

1030
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Jenny was great, so is Jake. Uh talk to you

1031
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:30.920
<v Speaker 2>guys later. Thank you