Speaker 1: Steve Bravera and Jacon Salles. They had their eye on
Speaker 1: the ball on Tucson's Sports Stay Chef Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to winning the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve. You're Jay and right away
Speaker 2: you's got a call.
Speaker 3: Hi, you're on the air, and I on the ball.
Speaker 4: All right on the right radios, Jo, you're on the air. Hey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 6: At the game and he's can take a holder, And
Speaker 6: that first half I was a little a little nervous
Speaker 6: only up there. They led at one point in.
Speaker 3: The first half, right right, Yeah, they were up twenty
Speaker 3: four to seventeen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But New Mexico was a good looking team. That
Speaker 6: quarterback could roll out and throw the number fifteen, and
Speaker 6: he had hands, he could just come down with anything.
Speaker 7: There were a couple of catches he made. There was
Speaker 7: one in particular where you know, there were two guys
Speaker 7: just all over him almost passing interference, and the ball
Speaker 7: somehow got through there.
Speaker 6: So I think it was a good challenge, good challenge
Speaker 6: for him. It is a good football team. Sometimes I
Speaker 6: feel like any of you is a little bit of
Speaker 6: a waste. But I think that they at least spit
Speaker 6: the ball around. I like to see some of the
Speaker 6: tight ends get some get some throws. Replaced McMillan from McLoughlin.
Speaker 6: I mean from last year, right, I like, so the
Speaker 6: tight ends get some work.
Speaker 2: So how long you been in a season ticket? Older?
Speaker 6: My fourth year?
Speaker 2: Fourth year? Okay, so you're still kind of fresh. Uh,
Speaker 2: obviously the best team you've seen in a while outside
Speaker 2: of last year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well you know you're there through the growing pain.
Speaker 6: So that one win then four wins was it? And
Speaker 6: so you know it's and I'm we've been following pretty
Speaker 6: close this year. I'm impressed with the coaching staff. When
Speaker 6: I really I really started the staff and Chuck cecoul
Speaker 6: and uh the wide receivers coach you got out of
Speaker 6: uh Tony's name again.
Speaker 4: Bobby Wade, Bobby Wade.
Speaker 6: You know, when you go up and down that boat,
Speaker 6: you staff, it's it's a pretty impressive looking to have
Speaker 6: backing back. It's a I'm pretty impressed by it.
Speaker 2: Good good for you, Good for you. Well, thanks for hey,
Speaker 2: Thanks appreciate your calling. Thanks, thank call any time, call anytime.
Speaker 2: No you get some breaking news or just news or whatever.
Speaker 7: Well, I can't. I can't play the I can't play
Speaker 7: the thing because I forgot to set that up. All right,
Speaker 7: we're gonna go breaking news. We've got a few things. Uh,
Speaker 7: first of all, the big it's not breaking, but it's happening.
Speaker 7: The NFL starts tonight. Yeah, it's the first day.
Speaker 3: You got it.
Speaker 7: You got a great game, a game that I kind
Speaker 7: of wish was on Sunday instead of Thursday night.
Speaker 3: Big game. But it's you know, it's on NBC as
Speaker 3: the Chiefs and the Ravens.
Speaker 2: What time does it start?
Speaker 3: Uh? Five thirty?
Speaker 7: I want it's five point twenty is kickoff. The Chiefs
Speaker 7: are a three point favorite. It's in Kansas City, and
Speaker 7: because it's in Kansas City, the Chiefs will be getting
Speaker 7: their Super.
Speaker 3: Bowl rings tonight. And it's a big, old, ugly thing
Speaker 3: like all the other ones are.
Speaker 7: They spell out world champions in diamonds, the rich, and
Speaker 7: then there's and then there's four Super Bowl you know
Speaker 7: things that look like the trophy and all of those
Speaker 7: are made of diamonds.
Speaker 2: How big is this thing? It's how are you fit
Speaker 2: all that stuff on? Me? There?
Speaker 3: It is? Yeah, he's looking at what.
Speaker 2: Does the sandwich? It's worth her. That's just the picture.
Speaker 7: That's just the picture. That's crazy. But anyway, so they're
Speaker 7: getting their Super Bowl rings to night.
Speaker 3: But it should be a good game.
Speaker 7: I'll sit down and watch it, you know, I'll pay
Speaker 7: attention to it, and it's you know, it's fun. I mean,
Speaker 7: I'll probably put some money on it. Just because my
Speaker 7: wife's not home. I'll be home all by myself with
Speaker 7: nobody to talk to. So I'm gonna watch the game.
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go.
Speaker 7: Arizona announced that it's I'll give you three guesses to
Speaker 7: the honorary captains.
Speaker 2: Three guesses to the honorary cap sinis already? Is this
Speaker 2: a trick question?
Speaker 3: Or is this no, it's just okay, you know, give
Speaker 3: me an okay, give me eighties.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a singleton, one of the singletons, not
Speaker 2: one of the Uh oh god, did we cover him?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: So before us?
Speaker 3: Yes? Three nineteen eighty seven because that's when I started.
Speaker 2: Pre nineteen eighty seven. Uh don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Was it not one of my co hosts? Right?
Speaker 3: Bi?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we'll give me one more chance. Uh oh
Speaker 2: the quarterback a ton of clip? No? Well, then I'm
Speaker 2: out Max and da oh okay, yeah, okay, yeah, how
Speaker 2: many just one guy or two guys? Just one guy?
Speaker 3: One gay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I wanted to I want to come
Speaker 2: up and get.
Speaker 3: A big Yeah, get a big all right, kind of
Speaker 3: along the along the same vein. Not really.
Speaker 7: I guess USC has retired a couple of jerseys, one
Speaker 7: really recent and one not so recent.
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams got his number thirteen retired, So that's quick. Uh.
Speaker 7: And Reggie Bush, who I guess you're probably holding off
Speaker 7: because you know he was in n C double a
Speaker 7: jail and now.
Speaker 2: He's not and everything is right again? Who?
Speaker 3: Okay? Who was as a football player? Which are those two?
Speaker 3: Do you think it was a better player? I know
Speaker 3: they played different positions.
Speaker 2: Well, so you're talking to an older dude, now less
Speaker 2: more jaded, and I think Reggie Bush, Yeah, and you
Speaker 2: know how it is. It's it's I'm sure you've yesked
Speaker 2: your son.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Caleb, Caleb Willms was a good player, a great player,
Speaker 7: won the Heisman. Reggie Bush was Electrifiedly.
Speaker 2: You went to a game to see Reggie and you think,
Speaker 2: how did he do that?
Speaker 3: You went to games to see.
Speaker 2: Him, right, and you saw teamm do a thing with
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly.
Speaker 2: It'll stop on a dime.
Speaker 7: That's the point I make. You know, we went to
Speaker 7: a game at the coliseum. It was in the mix
Speaker 7: tubs here and saw him playing. We had we had
Speaker 7: We were with the Arizona section in the seats in
Speaker 7: the corner of the end zone, and so we had
Speaker 7: a great angle on a punt that he took. And
Speaker 7: he caught a punt and you saw him break And
Speaker 7: now that he didn't score a touchdown on it, they
Speaker 7: caught it, but you saw him grab the ball, and
Speaker 7: you go, Arizona's in trouble right.
Speaker 2: Now, dude special right now.
Speaker 3: And and he had he had a big return one time.
Speaker 2: How much time we have time? Right, I have a
Speaker 2: lot of time. So who who other than you know
Speaker 2: Tmac in the last few years, even when we covered him,
Speaker 2: you said, Wow, that dude's just different. Well besides Gronk
Speaker 2: maybe too.
Speaker 7: I thought I thought I thought Coadeen carry was. But
Speaker 7: in the sense that he was, he was. He was
Speaker 7: as tough a player as as.
Speaker 3: As there was. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Wait, we talked about how every time he ran the
Speaker 7: ball he fell forward. He ran people over every time
Speaker 7: he ran the ball, and you wanted to see him
Speaker 7: get that Colorado game where you ran for whatever the
Speaker 7: number of three hundred sugar and you just said you
Speaker 7: wanted them to give him the ball so you could
Speaker 7: see him run, right, And so that's as close as
Speaker 7: rich you say, he ran angry? Yeah, yes, he fell forward, Colot. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you had to put him in the top five for sure,
Speaker 7: maybe top three because of the stuff that he did
Speaker 7: for that.
Speaker 3: One that stretch of game.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think that the thing that outside of
Speaker 2: maybe a coach's decision or two or three or whatever,
Speaker 2: he he started loving himself too much. Yes, and that
Speaker 2: kind of hurt that didn't kind of hurt him and
Speaker 2: hurt him that Sports Illustrated cover all that he.
Speaker 3: Was just his personality was not the type that could handle.
Speaker 2: Correct And you know what, that's a lot to be
Speaker 2: said because we see those kids.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you know again, it's a hard thing
Speaker 7: to do right al sudden, you're twenty twenty one years
Speaker 7: old and you're getting that kind of attempt.
Speaker 3: It's hard not to get off. Well, let me tell you,
Speaker 3: but some guys do really.
Speaker 2: Well, no question, let me tell you the guy who
Speaker 2: didn't handle it very well. And I'm probably speaking to
Speaker 2: saying something that people don't know. Miles. Miles was horrible
Speaker 2: as the most outstanding player. The next year he was
Speaker 2: he was a different dude. He was a different dude
Speaker 2: and not a good not a good one, right, And
Speaker 2: I think that if I pressed, the guys who played
Speaker 2: with him would say the same thing. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then you look at a guy like Gronk who
Speaker 7: embraced it, Yeah, had fun with it.
Speaker 2: He was, but he was kind of like a big knucklehead.
Speaker 7: He was exactly though, but he was kind of a
Speaker 7: personality who can have you want that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: A guy who doesn't didn't take himself so serious exactly.
Speaker 2: You don't like when we talk about pressument, Oh they
Speaker 2: don't know any better. So you knoweah, that guy, that's
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. He didn't take himself so seriously
Speaker 2: and say walk around with his you know, strut around
Speaker 2: with his head.
Speaker 7: He was like, I know, I'm good, but I'm having
Speaker 7: fun with it. Sure, sure, And that's what you liked
Speaker 7: about party exactly exactly, all right. A good news for
Speaker 7: a guy from Arizona from last year, Tyler Manoa got
Speaker 7: signed to the Cardinals practice squad today. He was a
Speaker 7: late cut, uh from wherever he got where we signed
Speaker 7: a free agent contract with. But oh with the Vikings,
Speaker 7: he was a late cut there. But he's been signed
Speaker 7: by the Cardinals today, so he'll he'll be on the
Speaker 7: practice squad.
Speaker 2: Everyone has about ten to eleven people too, guys on
Speaker 2: the roster, so we'll see if he if he gets
Speaker 2: in there. Yeah, and of course the old man Gloom,
Speaker 2: the kicker is not old man Gloom, but old man Yeah,
Speaker 2: the kicker. What's his name folk? Yeah, Yeah, he's older
Speaker 2: than new On So Ricky Piersoll.
Speaker 7: There's video of him, the guy got shot and he's
Speaker 7: at practice at at forty nine ers practice, walking around
Speaker 7: tossing the football around like he want you, like, coach.
Speaker 3: I really really really really want to play. Can you
Speaker 3: let me in? But I unbelievable. You see this deo
Speaker 3: of him just walking around?
Speaker 7: You never really guy got shot just a few days ago.
Speaker 7: Crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy all right. I don't know
Speaker 7: why this came up, but it was there was a
Speaker 7: meeting of some sort of meeting where the University of
Speaker 7: I weare President Barbara Wilson was asked if the Big
Speaker 7: Ten is done growing, are they still looking for teams?
Speaker 3: And she said, I would say for now that we're done.
Speaker 7: She said if the team were to add, if the
Speaker 7: they were to add a team, it would have to
Speaker 7: be quote for the right reasons.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of a kind of a no, but
Speaker 3: kind of a leading.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have this on your breaking news,
Speaker 2: but the Big twelve commissioner said that they halted talks
Speaker 2: about Yukon coming on. Oh, they're paused them, he says,
Speaker 2: so it'll be a while. Yeah, And I hadn't seen it,
Speaker 2: And if that ever happens, I'd be another fantastic get,
Speaker 2: at least in basketball.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: Okay, what do you think Arizona? The line is in
Speaker 7: the Arizona A game eight? No, it's well, it went
Speaker 7: up by a lot. I don't know what you saw it.
Speaker 2: I saw it, you say, didn't you say? Somebody said
Speaker 2: maybe tuesday, maybe one of the kids in twenty twenty eight. No,
Speaker 2: of course it thirty something.
Speaker 3: According to Justin Spears.
Speaker 7: And I'm looking it up right now to see if
Speaker 7: if he's if that in fact is the case.
Speaker 2: What is Justin said thirty something?
Speaker 3: Oh, here it is. I found it. Forty four and a.
Speaker 2: Half against any of you. Yeah, that that line of
Speaker 2: twenty eight When they said that, I said, how could
Speaker 2: they be less than yes, Mexico? Yes, And now I
Speaker 2: thought that to be kind and a half. Oh, there's
Speaker 2: no way I'm touching. Not no. In fact, my days
Speaker 2: of picking Arizona are done. I'm gonna I'm gonna pull
Speaker 2: a jay.
Speaker 3: Hey did we didn't it during the summer?
Speaker 7: Didn't we see a line of Arizona getting nine and
Speaker 7: a half against Kansas State?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not to six and a half. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: should have gotten out.
Speaker 7: Of gotten it at nine and a half, right at
Speaker 7: six and a half now, so that that line is
Speaker 7: already out. But yeah, forty four and a half Arizona
Speaker 7: against against an Okay, real quick, we got three minutes,
Speaker 7: Andy Kats put out.
Speaker 2: There's two of those things. But you want to talk
Speaker 2: about that, we'll talk about because we might not have
Speaker 2: anything to talk about, Okay, yeah, yeah, because and then
Speaker 2: I sent you something else. We have three things because
Speaker 2: Andy had two things. One last week about the crowd
Speaker 2: and then he talked about the arena. Last week he
Speaker 2: talked about did you know that's my question about this.
Speaker 2: When you talked about the arena, is it just the
Speaker 2: arena the arena because the fans are different because in
Speaker 2: the in the fans, he didn't have him on.
Speaker 7: The Okay, all right, that because that like, because I
Speaker 7: was saying, when he says the arena, is he counting.
Speaker 3: The fans, the atmosphere and all that.
Speaker 2: No, No, he's talking about Well, we need to dig
Speaker 2: up that other one because I don't remember seeing that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it came out last week.
Speaker 7: But it's an anty Cat's top ten list of best
Speaker 7: arenas in America. And I think I'm looking at the
Speaker 7: at the replies, I think that people are saying, wait
Speaker 7: a minute, why why are they in there? Because it's
Speaker 7: a terrible you know, it's a terrible crowd. Nobody goes
Speaker 7: to their games. Yeah, Yet if it's the arena itself,
Speaker 7: then yeah, I think that I think that belongs to
Speaker 7: the I'm.
Speaker 2: Curiously we'll talk about that because I'm curious whoul to
Speaker 2: have a NXE arena where the game where the people
Speaker 2: don't show up.
Speaker 7: You'll see, Okay, you'll see all right, So no, I'm
Speaker 7: interested in So, Yeah, like I said, chiefs, chiefs Ravens. Tonight,
Speaker 7: another game of interest where we're interesting spread. You got
Speaker 7: the forty nine Ers taking on Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.
Speaker 7: Forty nine er is only giving four and a half
Speaker 7: at at home.
Speaker 2: I thought that was the Rogers factor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want is he going to be any
Speaker 3: good or not?
Speaker 7: The Cardinals are getting only six and a half at
Speaker 7: the Bills.
Speaker 3: I mean I think I think that's.
Speaker 2: Too low.
Speaker 3: I think it's way too low. Yeah, way too So.
Speaker 2: That's something's going on with the Bills.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, that's someone's going on with the Bills.
Speaker 7: The Bears are favored with a rookie quarterback starting for them.
Speaker 2: So did you see the Justin flow Twitter? His performance
Speaker 2: on Saturday? He just went down and I.
Speaker 3: Saw we went and blasted somebody else kick off.
Speaker 2: That's just who he is. In fact, we had a
Speaker 2: jake last week, put him on the special teams and
Speaker 2: just let him.
Speaker 3: Loose, let him loose, and that he did. I saw that.
Speaker 3: I saw that. He just pancaked a guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah he says, hey, I didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty good.
Speaker 2: All I know is I'd rather have him on my
Speaker 2: team than.
Speaker 7: They then not on your team exactly. All right, let's uh,
Speaker 7: let's take a break. We're gonna come back. We've got
Speaker 7: who do we have? Marquis Mars Flowers.
Speaker 2: I won't tell you.
Speaker 3: I don't tell him.
Speaker 7: I said that, dude, you know what, he should be
Speaker 7: honored that I forgot. I forgot trunk candidate's name. Okay,
Speaker 7: that's what you need to know. All right, coming back,
Speaker 7: it'll be Marquise Flowers will talk about NFL season again started.
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Speaker 1: Steve Rivera and Jake and Salez they have their eye
Speaker 1: on the ball on Tucsons stage.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live. I mean I heard radio.
Speaker 2: Wams Hey, welcome back to Ian the ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve, He's Jay, and we're
Speaker 2: still waiting to get ahold of Marquis. I will tell
Speaker 2: you whose fault that was, will be okay, we'll get
Speaker 2: them real quck.
Speaker 3: I doubt the wrong number.
Speaker 2: Oh good, that's good news.
Speaker 3: Then, yeah, I doubt the wrong number. I mix up
Speaker 3: some numbers there.
Speaker 2: We're nothing with other kids.
Speaker 7: Oh, we are, we are, we are. We need we
Speaker 7: need to find a way to pay those.
Speaker 2: The lottery. You might help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree that. Okay, no, cool, you need something
Speaker 3: screw up right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we're just talking here and we got to
Speaker 2: kind of so we're just waiting for his car real quick. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, we'll talk more about the arenas. I saw
Speaker 2: what I saw the list, so I kind of prey.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. I know what you're
Speaker 2: talking about. So a couple of basketballs. Then I sent
Speaker 2: you one about the Did you see mine that I
Speaker 2: sent you? I sent you one about the players where
Speaker 2: Arizona ranks in terms of players on the roster.
Speaker 3: Oh I saw that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it might surprise you. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it surprised you when I sent it to you, but
Speaker 2: it despised me a little bit. Well, here you go,
Speaker 2: Here you go. Okay, here we go, Marquise, is this you?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 2: Well fine? Thanks thanks for jo and Marquise, Flowers for.
Speaker 7: Harley Marquees That that was my bad. I screwed up
Speaker 7: your phone number, So what can I tell you?
Speaker 4: It's all good?
Speaker 2: All right, Good to have you on the show. So
Speaker 2: you played in the league a number of years. What
Speaker 2: would be today? If you were playing today, what would
Speaker 2: be the what would be the situation in terms of
Speaker 2: emotions and stuff? Another year? How would you feel? Were
Speaker 2: you nervous? Were you excited? What was the situation?
Speaker 4: It's always the same thing and nervous excitement kind of
Speaker 4: a bundle of all the bulches mixed together. I don't
Speaker 4: know if I'll still be playing now. I am thirty two,
Speaker 4: you know, with some back pains now I'm getting old.
Speaker 4: But it would just be, you know, the excited man,
Speaker 4: nervousness obviously preparation for a week, going into another season,
Speaker 4: and just wanting to put your best foot forward.
Speaker 3: What were you? Were you a lot less nervous? Uh?
Speaker 7: You know after your rookie year or after your first game?
Speaker 7: You know, were you're super nervous at that first the
Speaker 7: first time you walked on the field. I mean, just
Speaker 7: compare what it was like at the beginning versus later
Speaker 7: in your career.
Speaker 4: So me, man, honestly, I was nervous every single game
Speaker 4: and I did it back to honestly, Pop Warner, I
Speaker 4: mean I just wanted to do so good obviously, just
Speaker 4: thinking about football day. The plays that you want to
Speaker 4: make obviously don't want to be a reason why a
Speaker 4: team scores or you get be just little things like
Speaker 4: that and kind of creeping your head. So I was
Speaker 4: nervous honestly before every single game, but it would go away.
Speaker 4: Honestly after the first kickoff. I just kind of needed
Speaker 4: to get into the moment, be there, either get hit
Speaker 4: hard or hit someone harder, you know, kind of just
Speaker 4: get into the game and the nervousness will go away.
Speaker 4: But I mean every game, it came back before the game,
Speaker 4: and the figger the games, the bigger the jitters.
Speaker 2: So so along those lines of wanting to play well
Speaker 2: every game and who doesn't. Right, So let's assume the
Speaker 2: second you played in two hundred three hundred games in
Speaker 2: your lifetime, probably more than that. What's the percentage of
Speaker 2: the games you said, Okay, I went out and did
Speaker 2: the thing I wanted to do, and I'm happy with
Speaker 2: my performance.
Speaker 4: Such a low percentage, man, that's you love. It's almost
Speaker 4: like we're insane people. Man. We chase perfection, but we
Speaker 4: will never play perfect.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: There's always gonna be plays you want back. There's always
Speaker 4: going to be things when you watch them like, man,
Speaker 4: why did I do that? You know, because you can't
Speaker 4: see yourself, you figure doing everything right. So that was
Speaker 4: It's a very low percent. It's out of all those games,
Speaker 4: maybe like four or five games out of my home
Speaker 4: where I'm like, okay, I played how I will place.
Speaker 4: But still I'm sitting there like I could have did
Speaker 4: so much, so many more things better.
Speaker 2: And you're saying more people are like that than not
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: Do you know what? I can't speak for other people.
Speaker 4: I can't speak for other people. You know. There's just
Speaker 4: some some guys who you know who honestly like, I
Speaker 4: don't know how many games Tom Brady when he can
Speaker 4: probably tell you something, I justly do Tom Brady because
Speaker 4: that's just one of the other guys I know. As
Speaker 4: a quarterback, it's a little harder. It's a little different
Speaker 4: the preparations to everything. I'm sure he had games where
Speaker 4: he want throws back and he wants that back. But
Speaker 4: once you kind of get into the game, that's the
Speaker 4: biggest thing is like, hey did we win did we lose?
Speaker 3: That's that biggest thing.
Speaker 4: You know, you want to be a good teammate and
Speaker 4: you want to get to win for your team, even
Speaker 4: if you know there's gonna be guys that kind of
Speaker 4: probably have bad games when they won it, and it's
Speaker 4: terrible to watch when you watch in film because you
Speaker 4: feel so bad on yourself. But as long as you
Speaker 4: get to win, man, that's all that matters kind of
Speaker 4: at that moment, and then you work on your your
Speaker 4: technique and work on yourself. But yeah, man, for me,
Speaker 4: it was I hated watching myself on film because it
Speaker 4: was like, Man, why did I do that? You know,
Speaker 4: and I know what to do. I just I don't know,
Speaker 4: just gonna get caught up in the game and you
Speaker 4: you kind of just you know, do your own thing,
Speaker 4: and there's miss tackles or miss dessignments or mental errors,
Speaker 4: and it's like I know what to do, so I
Speaker 4: don't know why I did that.
Speaker 7: Okay, you've probably been asked a million times, but I
Speaker 7: don't know that we've ever asked you this. I'm gonna
Speaker 7: ask you best player, best receiver, best player, running back,
Speaker 7: whatever that you ran into that you saw you were
Speaker 7: on the field with in the NFL, it has.
Speaker 4: To be, uh, in my opinion, one of the hardest
Speaker 4: guys I had trouble with Washa McCoy was Shaw McCoy.
Speaker 4: So that's probably the best running back I ever went
Speaker 4: against or even played with. And I would say receiver
Speaker 4: for me it was aj Green. I don't know, it
Speaker 4: was a Green.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, tough.
Speaker 7: What what was tough about playing? What did they do
Speaker 7: that made it hard on you?
Speaker 4: Well, Lashaw McCoy, Man, he was just one of those
Speaker 4: guys man, it didn't matter what you didn't matter how
Speaker 4: which your technique was, his feet, his his ability to
Speaker 4: make someone miss. I mean, you know, we are a
Speaker 4: professional grown man and he could make a whole defense
Speaker 4: look like they're Pop Warner team.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So you know you prep for it all week, all week,
Speaker 4: and it just actually when you get out there and
Speaker 4: he got you in space. Man, I had a tough time,
Speaker 4: you know, tackling my I tell people all the time
Speaker 4: that one time I did tackle him was when I
Speaker 4: when I just sat there, he ran it to me.
Speaker 4: I literally just sat there when I was chasing him,
Speaker 4: like I can't get this guy. And then I just
Speaker 4: sat there. He ran it to me, and I'm like
Speaker 4: that's that can't be the way you tackle him. But
Speaker 4: uh but uh, yeah, he was a tough one.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 4: That's probably one of the hardest running backs I ever
Speaker 4: had to go against man because you know, he could
Speaker 4: make any move from uh play gold front side, he
Speaker 4: could make one cut and go backside, and it was
Speaker 4: just his feet was just amazing, amazing athlete.
Speaker 2: So mean, I'm sorry again an apologize for this answer.
Speaker 2: How many years did you play? Seven? Six?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Six? Did you? Did you go out on your own terms?
Speaker 2: Maybe an injury or so, or did they, you know,
Speaker 2: call you in and say it's it's time.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I mean with that with that league, it's
Speaker 4: it's a little bit. I want to all my own
Speaker 4: terms in terms of you know, I did get kind
Speaker 4: of banged up and washing it and I hurt my neck,
Speaker 4: and as a linebacker would a hurt neck, I didn't sure,
Speaker 4: you don't want to risk anything and didn't want to
Speaker 4: wait to be seriously seriously injured. I had to go
Speaker 4: check that out. And then on top of that, I
Speaker 4: got tired man of it, in my opinion, putting my
Speaker 4: best foot forward. And it wasn't about hey, this guy's
Speaker 4: a good player, he could help us win no more.
Speaker 4: It was all about money salary, so I wanted so
Speaker 4: I just walked away from it. You know, I had
Speaker 4: kids at home that you know that that I was
Speaker 4: putting a lot of pressure on their mom, who did
Speaker 4: a great job, but she was really by herself at
Speaker 4: that time. Man, because football took so much, specially being
Speaker 4: a professional. I'm going to city city state to stay,
Speaker 4: not being with my kids. So I walked away on
Speaker 4: my own and it came home and you know, definitely
Speaker 4: had to get right transmission back into that. And I'm
Speaker 4: still doing that.
Speaker 2: To this day.
Speaker 3: Did you do you have any boys?
Speaker 4: I won U.
Speaker 3: Is he gonna play football? Is he gonna play football?
Speaker 7: With all that, with everything that you went through, the
Speaker 7: good stuff, the bad stuff, the injuries.
Speaker 3: Will play that.
Speaker 4: I was one of those dads and said I didn't
Speaker 4: want my son to play football, but you know, him
Speaker 4: growing up around it and him doing that. He actually
Speaker 4: does play football right now. He plays soccer football for
Speaker 4: my old high school. We got a feeder team, so
Speaker 4: I'll try to help him with that. He's actually really good,
Speaker 4: and that's one of the hardest things. I of course
Speaker 4: he's good. Of course he's good at football, and of
Speaker 4: course he wants to play football. But if I teach
Speaker 4: him the right techie you know, because everybody experience is different.
Speaker 4: You know, I got the blueprint for him now, and
Speaker 4: I know he loves the game and the love of
Speaker 4: the game just like I did. And you know, I
Speaker 4: would definitely let him know when it turns into more
Speaker 4: of a business than it doesn't matter how much you
Speaker 4: love a game, you know, because when you start getting
Speaker 4: older at the higher levels, they don't really love the
Speaker 4: game no more. They love the business.
Speaker 2: Right. So how old is he twelve? Twelve? Yeah, so
Speaker 2: right at that age of either you do it or
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, either you do it or you don't. But
Speaker 4: whatever we do, I'll tell him all the time, we're
Speaker 4: gonna get mac depper. You know. He's better than I
Speaker 4: was at his age, you know, so you know, he
Speaker 4: listens really well. He's a better version of me. I
Speaker 4: tell people out all the time, and I'm very proud
Speaker 4: of him. But yeah, he's really good.
Speaker 3: Does he like to hit?
Speaker 7: Because that's the thing, that thing separates kids who keep
Speaker 7: playing football the kids who don't. The kids who like
Speaker 7: to hit, like to hit, like to get hit. Where's
Speaker 7: where's he on that?
Speaker 4: Yeah he is. He's not afraid to hit. He's not
Speaker 4: afraid to hit. I don't know if he likes it,
Speaker 4: but he's not afraid to hit. He plays cornerback, so
Speaker 4: I get on him some time when he guys try
Speaker 4: to stay out the playoff on one of the NFL
Speaker 4: quarter cornerbacks, I said, we're not doing that. We're tackling
Speaker 4: the ball come your way. You need to get in
Speaker 4: and get into action. I'll be standing there watching. But
Speaker 4: on offense, he's the offensivelayer. So he's gonna have a
Speaker 4: decision to make like I did coming out if he
Speaker 4: does make it, when he hopefully, when he does make
Speaker 4: it to the point we're getting scholarshipsoot that he wants
Speaker 4: to play office or defense?
Speaker 7: How how will how will you advise? How I was
Speaker 7: gonna say, how will you advise him in that?
Speaker 3: What you know? What will you say to him?
Speaker 4: Follow your heart? Follow your heart? I mean you're always
Speaker 4: gonna have that other side. Doesn't matter what you cake
Speaker 4: to just know that you're gonna matter. You're gonna say, man,
Speaker 4: what if I win him for defense? If you go
Speaker 4: for offense, and if you go for office, You're gonna say,
Speaker 4: what if I went for defense? So just follow your heart?
Speaker 4: What do you like to do? What do you feel
Speaker 4: like you're better at where you feel like you could
Speaker 4: be more help your team more more at. So that's
Speaker 4: what I would tell him, and I will try to
Speaker 4: tell him if I if I see it right now,
Speaker 4: I think he's equally good at both. You honestly, is
Speaker 4: equally good, really good at both. So it's gonna be
Speaker 4: completely up to him. It's his journey, it's his path.
Speaker 4: I don't want to do nothing to it's the mess
Speaker 4: that have. Like, man, my dad nested up for me.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna let him choose that.
Speaker 2: So I know you probably watch a game on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on what you saw and especially on your
Speaker 2: side of the ball.
Speaker 4: Oh man, yeah, of course, you know. I watched the game.
Speaker 4: Watch the game, you know, big u of a guy.
Speaker 4: You know, so everybody likes to watch the game with
Speaker 4: me because I'm intense and I'm into it. But I
Speaker 4: thought it was good for a game. I thought, I
Speaker 4: think everybody needs to relax. Yes, the defense didn't play
Speaker 4: like they wanted to play, but sometimes that happened Week one. Yeah,
Speaker 4: everybody wants to come out and perform. Everybody wants to
Speaker 4: make the play, to do something. And you know, you know,
Speaker 4: sometimes you got to just get credit to New Mexico statement.
Speaker 4: They had a good game plan. Very athletic quarterback. Obviously
Speaker 4: he's from Phoenix, Arizona, so he was definitely a problem athletic,
Speaker 4: dual threat quarterback like that, creating play, creating extra play.
Speaker 4: But if anything, I know Dwayne Keena, he'll get it
Speaker 4: right and trusted Dwaynea Quina. He didn't go our way
Speaker 4: week one on defense, like he won through offense. Explosively, explosive,
Speaker 4: very explosive, but defense. That's the thing about it. They're
Speaker 4: still becoming a team. They got to become a team.
Speaker 4: They gotta trust each other, They got to do their assigmons.
Speaker 4: I think. Man, I'm really not worried about it. They
Speaker 4: got a lot of time to get better, get and
Speaker 4: to come together.
Speaker 7: Do you remember seeing anybody like Tam Mac during your
Speaker 7: time in college, Not as a pro because of a
Speaker 7: bunch of those guys, but yeah, in college, anybody like
Speaker 7: that that you can.
Speaker 4: Recall, Yeah, yeah, you know t Mac. He's a he's
Speaker 4: a phenomenal player man, great wide receiver. He's minded me.
Speaker 4: You know, I think last year he reminded me of
Speaker 4: Jeron Kriner when we came when I came in, and
Speaker 4: how Jeron Kriner used to be out there, him and
Speaker 4: Nick Foe and all the crazy catches and good games
Speaker 4: he had. But I think t Mac is now understanding
Speaker 4: that he's he's basically unguardable and how good he is,
Speaker 4: and I think he's taking next step. So it'd be
Speaker 4: like more of a drunk rider and the Kadeen Caerry.
Speaker 4: You know, Kadeen carry dominated at his position to the
Speaker 4: point where you know, you sat down and you watch that.
Speaker 4: On the other side, it's like, man, these guys can't
Speaker 4: can't deal with him, and man, look how good you know,
Speaker 4: look how good he is? So uh t Mac though, Man,
Speaker 4: he's real good man, and it's honestly, it's fun watching him. Man,
Speaker 4: I can't believe teams lead him wide open sometimes. So
Speaker 4: but I know the offense, I know it explosive and
Speaker 4: all that, but we definitely gonna have the other and
Speaker 4: I'm not saying the other players think that, but they
Speaker 4: all did great. But but there's no way when we
Speaker 4: get into the conference, like these teams are gonna let
Speaker 4: Tam Mac this. You know he's about to double in
Speaker 4: even maybe Chiple cover. So it's gonna be fun to
Speaker 4: see somebody really step up off that and you know
Speaker 4: for feet that he does a good job back there
Speaker 4: controlling the offense. Obviously the offense has no problem at
Speaker 4: least after week one. They have no problem yet, and
Speaker 4: they have no problem. So once we've cleaned the defense up, man,
Speaker 4: it's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be exciting for you of a So we always ask
Speaker 2: this former players, who who played the game, Uh, how
Speaker 2: do you look at a game?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 2: Do you watch your position? Do you watch the game?
Speaker 2: Are you a fan who just watches it, or do
Speaker 2: you kind of critical critical eye it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's why I kind of stopped watching football
Speaker 4: four a while. At first, I couldn't stop watching it,
Speaker 4: like I was watching the film, finding out who did wrong,
Speaker 4: what happened, and and you know, getting up said. So
Speaker 4: now I try to watch it as a fan and
Speaker 4: understand it. You know, sometimes you know these other teams
Speaker 4: are gonna make plays, but I kind of put everything together.
Speaker 4: I'll watch it as a fan. Then if they show
Speaker 4: the replay, I'll break it down to see who did
Speaker 4: wrong or who or or where where we got be
Speaker 4: at and then you know, after that and it'd be
Speaker 4: like critical, like man, what should they do to to
Speaker 4: to I'll try to think ahead, like what are they
Speaker 4: gonna do? What coverage are they gonna go in, or
Speaker 4: what what are they gonna do defensively? Obviously, I can
Speaker 4: watch it as a fan because I haven't played offenses
Speaker 4: so long. You know, I'm a deft the guy actually
Speaker 4: watch the other defense and I'll say like, oh, they
Speaker 4: about to get beat because they or something like that.
Speaker 4: So I do watch it a little critically. Obviously playing
Speaker 4: the game, knowing the game, it helps a little bit
Speaker 4: to understand. And then it doesn't help when I'm watching
Speaker 4: them with people and they're asking me questions about.
Speaker 2: Why this, so leave me alone. I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: watch the game, right right. So eventually, at the end
Speaker 2: of the day they're in the Big Twelve. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you like the move because it's gonna be a competitive situation.
Speaker 2: How do you think you're gonna finish?
Speaker 4: Oh, you know what, after they got taken one week
Speaker 4: at a time, the Big Twelve is gonna be explosed.
Speaker 4: They got some explosive offenses in the Big twelve, so
Speaker 4: we got to prepare for you know, you know, honestly,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of great skill players. It reminds me
Speaker 4: a little bit of the Pac twelve with the skill
Speaker 4: player that they have on offense. It's uh, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be some. It's gonna be some dog fights, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be some some some some shootouts. And so if we
Speaker 4: could get the defense to get the defense right. Man.
Speaker 4: Obviously I still believe defense wins championships, but we gotta
Speaker 4: be ready for shootouts and not critical on that because
Speaker 4: I mean, there's some real tough, tough teams and it's
Speaker 4: big twelve, so it's got to say. I think we
Speaker 4: gotta take it when we get a time. I can't
Speaker 4: look ahead because I haven't seen everybody yet. I've seen
Speaker 4: Colorado play a tough Dame against in DSU is gonna
Speaker 4: make them better. Obviously we know Deon. He's a professional,
Speaker 4: so he's gonna have them ready to make them better.
Speaker 4: So many good team. I haven't seen Utah play yet.
Speaker 4: I know they're high on Utah. I want to see why.
Speaker 4: So it's a lot. We gotta take it when we
Speaker 4: get a time. We got to understand the game, playing
Speaker 4: great weekue of preparation and ukay man, they could really
Speaker 4: do good. They should finish you know, I think they
Speaker 4: should be playing for the Big Cold Championships or in
Speaker 4: the twelve team playoff if they with the potential that
Speaker 4: they got. But we'll see it's it's gonna be a
Speaker 4: great year.
Speaker 2: Okay, Marquis, thanks a bunch for joining us. Man, it's
Speaker 2: always talking. Good talk to you.
Speaker 3: Appreciated Mark's good stuff.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Thank you talk to you so appreciate it. Marquis Flowers,
Speaker 2: formerly of Arizona and Cincinnati.
Speaker 7: I could have gone another ten minutes to come about
Speaker 7: that New Mexico the New Mexico Bowl ole game. Yea,
Speaker 7: he had that pick at the end of the game
Speaker 7: to clinch the game. But just what that what that
Speaker 7: had to be like that day as.
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Speaker 1: Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacobzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Steve Rivera, you're chaking Zalez and
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk a little about hoops. Yeah oops, why not? Right,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about Andy Katz's stuff.
Speaker 3: Like he puts these lists out. He does a bunch
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 7: He did top ten Rivalry, top ten college basketball rivalry,
Speaker 7: top ten college towns, top ten student sections which.
Speaker 2: The zone was not Did you did you see that?
Speaker 2: Did you find it? Top ten student sections?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about that first. Okay, because you're Arizona
Speaker 2: was not in it. It came out last week, nuts priced
Speaker 2: Arizona just belonging to it, right, right, it's totally different.
Speaker 2: Like you were talking about venue, game experience and then
Speaker 2: student sections outside of the and I know I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be we have a lot of older people here to
Speaker 2: defend the older people. They do a good job when
Speaker 2: it's a big game, that's a huge game, they're that
Speaker 2: that arena rocks and they pay a lot of money.
Speaker 2: They said without the students, right. The students help obviously,
Speaker 2: but it's just a great atmosphere. That's why it made
Speaker 2: the top ten.
Speaker 7: Well again, I always say any slap can be great
Speaker 7: when when it's a big game and all that kind
Speaker 7: of stuff.
Speaker 3: It's what do you like when you know Oregon State shows.
Speaker 7: East West Tennessee State is in town. Yeah, right, So
Speaker 7: that's what's separates.
Speaker 2: So the students and everyone talks about the arena and
Speaker 2: people are saying, well, they need to move the students
Speaker 2: on the side. No, no, because it's the same. They're
Speaker 2: gonna have the same amount of students, right, it's not
Speaker 2: gonna be any different. Right, And they have them, whether
Speaker 2: they have them on the side or the sidelines. How
Speaker 2: many students you think gets them it? How many in there?
Speaker 2: Two and a half? Yeah, they're not going to change that, No,
Speaker 2: they need to pay some bills, right, and they're not
Speaker 2: gonna put them on the side. They're not gonna put
Speaker 2: them on the side. Stop asking, right or saying that's
Speaker 2: the solution. If it's not, it's not, it's not. No,
Speaker 2: and you say, well Duke does it, Well that's a
Speaker 2: little different because it's a nine thousand stuff.
Speaker 7: And Duke's is a rich freaking school, all right. It's
Speaker 7: expensive to go there. The people that go there end
Speaker 7: up making a lot of money. It's like Stanford, they
Speaker 7: get they got money coming out of places that you
Speaker 7: don't even know.
Speaker 3: So no, that don't compare.
Speaker 2: That, right, So they didn't. There was a lot of
Speaker 2: concern last week, I mean talk not concerned about how
Speaker 2: can we're not know because you're not you're not student
Speaker 2: section though.
Speaker 7: Now say I don't know these student sections, so I
Speaker 7: don't know if I should be surprised to.
Speaker 2: Go down because I've seen a few of them.
Speaker 3: Well, San Diego State's in there.
Speaker 2: And they're good. They're good, very good.
Speaker 7: I've never been to a game at San Diego to day,
Speaker 7: so I couldn't tell you. Rutgers, I've never been, never been, right, Providence, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, Yes, Arizona played them in the early nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety six ish. I think time very good.
Speaker 3: Pretty good.
Speaker 7: But I mean like Duke, Purdue, Kansas, Michigan State, Conzagi.
Speaker 7: Those are the top five. Not surprised to see them,
Speaker 7: even Yukon.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I didn't I didn't see
Speaker 2: was the Grand Canyon one because they rocked too. They've
Speaker 2: brought out of sight, out of my student section, out
Speaker 2: of sight, out of mind. They've even showed up here
Speaker 2: for the game Ember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, out of sight, out of mind, they don't.
Speaker 2: And that was it. What's the rest of them?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 7: Okay, after those five, then you got Yukon, Auburn, San
Speaker 7: Diego State, Rutgers, Providence.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know about that last five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. The scariest place I ever went
Speaker 2: to cover a game, and obviously I went to twenty
Speaker 2: three years old, the best ball was l s U. Crazy, scary,
Speaker 2: and I was just a reporter there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, and I and I can't speak for even paying
Speaker 7: attend to what the student section was, but I know
Speaker 7: that the loudest arena that I ever went to and
Speaker 7: the craziest arena ever went to was the pit.
Speaker 2: The well Mexico circumstances were that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well the number team in the country. I mean
Speaker 7: they they were locked and loaded. We got there for
Speaker 7: that game, you know, and they didn't disappoint.
Speaker 2: In fact, I should have asked will last week insist
Speaker 2: because I talked about this at time that that's diminished.
Speaker 2: Patino's kind of bought them back a little. But for
Speaker 2: a long stress stretch there. Uh, they weren't. They were
Speaker 2: twelve thousand, eleven thousand because they weren't any good. Now
Speaker 2: they're good again.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I mean it's such an unassuming building from the outside, right,
Speaker 7: and then you walk in and it's this madhouse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this down and you look down in the hole, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's crazy. And I have to give you that that'st
Speaker 2: it's crazy there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was That's a liars arena I've
Speaker 3: ever been in.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, especially the circumstances dictated.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of the funnest for me was was Stamford when
Speaker 2: Naples rocked and the thing was bouncing, Holy crap.
Speaker 3: And the old Matt Court.
Speaker 2: Oh that organ, that's my favorite of all time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because anybody had a cigarette in there, places can burn down.
Speaker 2: It was so old.
Speaker 7: Well I kind of made me think that that that
Speaker 7: must have been with the old Boston Garden used to
Speaker 7: look probably right like that, just this old rickety.
Speaker 2: Yeah, built on just wood and nothing.
Speaker 7: And the footprint was like the size of a bedroom.
Speaker 7: I mean it was so small because it was just
Speaker 7: went straight up.
Speaker 3: In the air.
Speaker 2: You were top of the people, on top of each other.
Speaker 3: It was like three or four decks.
Speaker 2: You remember the locker rooms.
Speaker 3: Oh god, you had to go downstairs. Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, horrible.
Speaker 2: Crazy, but it was the best.
Speaker 3: That was the best unbelievable, unbelievable atmosphere at that place.
Speaker 7: Plus you know Arizona at that you know, came in
Speaker 7: and they you know they Arizona was Arizona by that time,
Speaker 7: and they just wanted to beat the hell out of
Speaker 7: you and they got a big kick out of it.
Speaker 7: And it was it was fun when Arizona went in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go to the list that you were trying.
Speaker 7: The other one is they called it Vaunted Venues, the
Speaker 7: bet the ten best arenas in America. So this is
Speaker 7: the arena itself as opposed to the atmosphere, the atmosphere,
Speaker 7: the fan. Yeah, whatever. And uh, you know again not
Speaker 7: surprised at the top now that I know that this
Speaker 7: is that this is the category because you got Allen Fieldhouse.
Speaker 3: Uh can this Cameron Indoor Duke?
Speaker 7: I would I would think that Alan field House is
Speaker 7: above Cameron because it's bigger, bigger war fans.
Speaker 2: Right right, you know what to me? And I went
Speaker 2: to Cameron last year, very cool, very tight, you couldn't
Speaker 2: move for all game. I've been to Allen three times.
Speaker 2: I would still pick Cameron ahead of but Arizona beat
Speaker 2: I don't know, it didn't have that did have something,
Speaker 2: but Arizona went in and beat a member Candygate and
Speaker 2: and Selim going off in that second half and beat it.
Speaker 3: You're thinking, but why would you pick over?
Speaker 2: It didn't because maybe I'm biased?
Speaker 3: You said you think Cameron.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from from my perspective because I've been to both. Now,
Speaker 2: Cameron was just Cameron. I mean it was kind of
Speaker 2: had that. Yeah, And maybe there's a bias in me
Speaker 2: because you're thinking, I get to go to New York
Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium and it's this and and maybe I didn't
Speaker 2: live up to it, but in your mind, back your head,
Speaker 2: it did. And I've been to Allen three times, so
Speaker 2: I don't, Cameron. Still, there's other ones.
Speaker 7: But then you got Purdue never been macked arena before,
Speaker 7: it's poly Pavilion.
Speaker 2: See there's only one time that's good Arizona.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but as an.
Speaker 7: Arena with the history, when you think about the history
Speaker 7: and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: As an arena and it's a great looking arena.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nassive.
Speaker 3: Walk in and you walk in and you feel Louel
Speaker 3: Sender and Bill.
Speaker 2: Walton and we'll see that biased.
Speaker 7: To So so I can see why you would put
Speaker 7: the as an arena. Yes, as a venue when you
Speaker 7: bring in the fans in the atmosphere, not even in
Speaker 7: the top twenty five because they get seven thousand. There's
Speaker 7: sometimes they get seven thousand at a game. So I wouldn't.
Speaker 7: But I remember the first time I walked into poly Pavilion.
Speaker 7: You had a bias I got. I got Tamo I did,
Speaker 7: of course, because you had this bias and UCLA that
Speaker 7: I remember because there was not that far removed from
Speaker 7: those teams that I saw growing up with Walton and
Speaker 7: and and Lowell Sendor, Sidney Wis all those guys.
Speaker 2: And the coach was still on the sidelines watching games
Speaker 2: and he.
Speaker 3: Was yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So so then after Polly is Bud Walton and you
Speaker 2: got I was there Arkansas the first year when they
Speaker 2: opened it because everyone who played them it Wasona had
Speaker 2: Chris Mills and did will ever tell you the trip
Speaker 2: to to Arkansas.
Speaker 3: Told me how hard it was out of there.
Speaker 2: You had to get plans, change the plans. We were
Speaker 2: stuck in the airport for like nine hours. He had
Speaker 2: drove the sportsmith. It was crazy crazy. It was very
Speaker 2: very good, very good place, very good place.
Speaker 7: And then number six and it's a place in Arizona
Speaker 7: will ultimately go to Iowa State when what we've heard.
Speaker 2: That right, and you see the student section can go
Speaker 2: crazy with the way.
Speaker 7: We've been told that that watch out that in Iowa
Speaker 7: State is very underestimated as a place to go both
Speaker 7: for football.
Speaker 2: And basketball, good and basketball.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: And then the Palestro at Penn University never been University
Speaker 7: of Pencil and yet I wouldn't know, but you you
Speaker 7: know you're here, tell us one of those places that's
Speaker 7: a little smaller but just crazy.
Speaker 3: The Michigan State's Arena, the center.
Speaker 2: Very very good. I remember going there cold as all hell.
Speaker 2: Will Bynum was on the team at the time in Salima,
Speaker 2: and all they did was buying Will bying them is
Speaker 2: tell him he was Gary Coleman. Gary all game they
Speaker 2: called Arizona lost that game? You remember Will?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's not right, that's right, that's all right. Then
Speaker 7: Michaeale Center comes in at number nine. Yeah, which I
Speaker 7: think that's about you know, every big game. It's a
Speaker 7: nice it's a great venue. Uh you know, the underground
Speaker 7: of it, you know, if you're behind the scenes private,
Speaker 7: it's it's tight and tiny and weird. But yeah, in
Speaker 7: terms of you know, watching a basketball game in there
Speaker 7: is uh, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: So I think that that belongs there.
Speaker 7: And then the which again probably has lost a lot
Speaker 7: of its mojo over the last you know, many years,
Speaker 7: But as a venue, I mean that that that that
Speaker 7: famous final foward where North Carolina State beat beat Houston.
Speaker 7: That was at the pit and and it's a crazy place.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, no question nineteen eighty three. Okay, so I
Speaker 2: get the most talented teams in college hoops, I send
Speaker 2: it to you.
Speaker 3: I have that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So this kind of surprised me. And this just
Speaker 2: came out yesterday and I rightway looked for the AA
Speaker 2: symbol and I'm thinking, Okay, Arizona's gonna be ranked about
Speaker 2: twelve this year to begin the year. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 2: twenty fifth on the list of talented players here, which
Speaker 2: is kind of surprising. And there's kind of a weird correlation, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, what how you know? How is that?
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you have Caleb Love on your team that
Speaker 7: that alone should put you, you know, close to the
Speaker 7: top ten. I mean, who does who does Georgetown have
Speaker 7: that they say is more talented than Arizona?
Speaker 3: Who does Maryland have? Who does Texas A and M have?
Speaker 3: Even U C L A.
Speaker 7: And there's a bunch of teams here that go Okay,
Speaker 7: somebody I don't know. I don't think somebody did their homework.
Speaker 7: You have Virginia the number four talented team in the country.
Speaker 2: Well that's the funny thing about it. Uh, That's why
Speaker 2: I asked who did these type of things? Could be
Speaker 2: some dude, some dude in the basement. And let me
Speaker 2: say this to you, Uh, Florida. Did you see the
Speaker 2: quote from Florida's coach about the fans and he says, oh,
Speaker 2: that's some We're not gonna worry about some dude in
Speaker 2: the basement, and he got criticized for it. What our
Speaker 2: coach can't say anything anymore because I guess he ripped
Speaker 2: the fans. They were they were upside. They're gonna rip
Speaker 2: him over anything. What can you can? What can you
Speaker 2: and cannot say? That's not gonna piss anybody off? Sure,
Speaker 2: I know you do. I know you do, and and
Speaker 2: most of the times you're right with that, because anybody
Speaker 2: has a computer like.
Speaker 7: This is somebody that it's called bart barttorvi dot com
Speaker 7: that's got some sort of a analytics website that has
Speaker 7: put this together and the ranking came from there somehow.
Speaker 7: But I don't you know, Uh, there's a bunch of
Speaker 7: teams in here that you go, well, why do you
Speaker 7: think they're more talented than Arizona?
Speaker 3: And you know, we'll see why, you know why they think.
Speaker 2: That dev Utah thirty eight? Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And youtubh hasn't been relevant in a long.
Speaker 3: Time quite a while. You know, ole miss is in there?
Speaker 2: Who's the dog there? Who's the dog at the end?
Speaker 2: Is that Georgetown?
Speaker 3: Is that Georgetown is thirteen?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Georgetown? And who's thirteen? That must be Gonzaga
Speaker 2: talented players. Zaga is well, that might be Zabing. Is
Speaker 2: that zaber who's the dog at the end?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You see it though, Yeah, I don't know who that.
Speaker 7: Is at thirteen? That gee, that's not Gonzaga. That's George
Speaker 7: sounding or is it Gonzaga? Maybe that is Gonzaga.
Speaker 3: I don't think. Oh you know what Gonzaga is thirty seven?
Speaker 3: That pulled out? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's three seven?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: George is twenty one? So I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know who. You know, who these teams are.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's that number twenty four. Who's that is that?
Speaker 3: Creighton?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Blue Jazz?
Speaker 3: Great, yeah, the Blue Jays.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: But here here's okay.
Speaker 7: This is their list of top ten talented teams and
Speaker 7: college troops Yukon obviously Illinois. These are in order, Illinois, Indiana, Virginia,
Speaker 7: North Carolina, Duke. I have no idea who number seven is?
Speaker 7: Purdue at eight, Houston nine, and Michigan State at ten.
Speaker 2: Well in Kansas, who's going to be the number one
Speaker 2: team in the country?
Speaker 3: At eleven, Wake Forest or twelve? I don't know.
Speaker 7: What's the again, some guy somebody develops the criteria and
Speaker 7: it fits whatever this says it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know well to me and we can probably
Speaker 2: dissect all this in a in a real way. Kansas
Speaker 2: is eleventh best talent, but they're gonna be the number
Speaker 2: one team in the country. There's only twenty fifth in talent,
Speaker 2: but they're gonna be number ten, twelve in the rankings.
Speaker 2: There's kind of something wrong with it. Doesn't right, either
Speaker 2: the rankings or this right.
Speaker 7: It doesn't seem it doesn't seem right. Okay, I mean,
Speaker 7: what's UCLA got left? I'll tell you another one. I
Speaker 7: got it, I got it bone to pick on. Back
Speaker 7: to Andy Katz's rankings, he has got he ranked the
Speaker 7: top basketball rivalries college basketball.
Speaker 2: He missed on that too, at number five.
Speaker 7: He's got UCLA USC. There isn't one person outside of
Speaker 7: U LA and USC who gives a crap about that
Speaker 7: basketball rivalry. You know why that should be UCLA in Arizona,
Speaker 7: not UCLA and USC. And maybe they may maybe that
Speaker 7: was a mistake because U C l A US. He
Speaker 7: isn't even a basketball rivalry and it hasn't been a
Speaker 7: basketball rivalry pretty much ever. Right, And if somebody says
Speaker 7: who's UCLA's basketball rival, they're gonna say Arizona every time, right,
Speaker 7: So I don't know why that.
Speaker 2: And Natty hasn't been here in a long time into Arizona.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him here in the game in a while.
Speaker 2: You know, he's not like good Man.
Speaker 3: Who next time he shows up, you need to smack him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you. I tried to get him
Speaker 2: on the show about three months ago. He didn't have time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we'll see. Well, let me try to get him
Speaker 2: on all right, basketball season? Yeah, we gotta go.
Speaker 3: All right, man out of time. That was fun, all right.
Speaker 3: We will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 7: We'll be uh picking up the NAU game and we'll
Speaker 7: have the fast five Friday picks.
Speaker 3: I'll be sure to be here tomorrow