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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the Fire Escape Cast. It

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is episode one hundred and thirty seven. I think it

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is nine to thirteen pm in Shanghai. Hello to all

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our listeners there where.

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Speaker 2: I'm Michael Party. Yeah, millions, well in Shanghais. I think

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it's only in the hundreds of thousands in Shanghai.

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Speaker 3: That's our main demo.

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Speaker 2: There's one hundred thousand in China.

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Speaker 1: About twenty k of them are in Shanghai spread around

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the country, which is nice.

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Speaker 4: We love Shanghai and Shanghai loves us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, that's me Hi's and that's Mary.

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Speaker 4: Hello. It's Shanghaians.

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Speaker 2: How do you I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It can't be Shanghaians. That's how you say it.

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Speaker 2: Let me look it up.

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Speaker 1: Some city citizens have cool names, like Liverpool's. They're a Liverpudlian.

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Speaker 3: That's fun.

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Speaker 5: That sounds like a that sounds like, what's the thing

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with a little people live the giant Lila Puttian?

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Speaker 3: Is that it?

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Speaker 2: You're Jonathan Swift whatever.

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Speaker 5: There's the monster guy and then he lives in like

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a bunch like a kingdom for couplings type like.

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Speaker 2: I think it's little little Puddians.

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Speaker 3: A fun name.

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Speaker 2: They are as a Shanghai.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not Shanghais.

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Speaker 4: Amazing.

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Speaker 2: In Mandarin Chinese, they're referred to as Shanghaian.

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Speaker 4: Have them even more?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Shanghanese people ethnic subgroup of Han Chinese who have

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ancecil roots from Shanghai.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you learn something every day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Cool, there's like, what are fun city?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how to say that fun name people?

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Speaker 3: The cities and countries.

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Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Canadians isn't funny? Mexicans isn't funny?

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Speaker 1: Americans not Boston, Massholes, just Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Hartlepool are called monk oh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, these are not actual Yeah, these are, like Mary said, nicknames.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're probably given by the locals and you're

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not even supposed to know them because you're not from there.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's like, we don't belong here.

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We shouldn't.

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Speaker 6: If you go into some of these places and call

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them these things, they'll punch you in the face.

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Speaker 5: It's like the San Francisco thing, like the people to

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say Frisco and stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: You know, Like I remember when I first moved there

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and said San fran and they were like don't.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, okay.

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Speaker 4: Do you not say to San Francisco?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: I think, what's so annoying about it?

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Speaker 2: But I called it Frisco.

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Speaker 5: I called it from Australia.

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Speaker 4: Short it shortening it is fair.

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Speaker 1: I know it is also accepted, but it's San Francisco,

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s F or just the city if you're not, if

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you're in there, but here in Michigan and then Upper Peninsula,

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up up Upper Peninsula.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've heard that.

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Speaker 2: Thing, and I don't. I've never heard this other one.

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Speaker 1: If you there's a bridge that can next the peninsulas,

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if you live below the bridge, you're a troll according

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to Reddit, like you live below a bridge.

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Speaker 4: I would not say that to the locals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just ran out of gas.

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Speaker 4: Troll, Do you think you can help me out?

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Speaker 2: My brother? My brother's a troll? Hey, troll? Can you

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give me a ride at the airport?

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Speaker 3: Troll answering riddles even when you're not asked.

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Speaker 4: One Mike Mahrty was last scene below the.

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Speaker 1: Bridge somewhere in Mackinaw cheeseheads. That's what Yeah, these are

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these are not this is not what I meant.

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Speaker 4: Ye, they're dangerously closed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah again.

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Speaker 4: I think you have to you have to be there.

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Speaker 1: Doms that's what we wanted. Liverpool is Liverpudlian. Manchester is

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a Mancoonian is Monagas.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about that one.

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Speaker 2: So Glasgow is Glasswegian. I've heard that that's fun. Style

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of fact.

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Speaker 6: I have the same reaction based on how silly they sound, doesn't.

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Speaker 3: You If it just has an end with an n as,

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it's fine.

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Speaker 2: This one's good. Winnipeg is a Winnipegger mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: I would definitely not use that. I saw the area.

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Speaker 2: I thought Quebequa was all of Quebec.

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Speaker 3: Apparently that's fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Aberdonian Hobart. I'm trying to find like a fun one.

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Speaker 3: Oh this is good.

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Speaker 2: There's a place in France called Condom. There's a condom.

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Speaker 3: Wah, Oklahoma's Oakie. Oh yeah, Oki from Kie. Yeah, what's like?

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Speaker 2: What's that's nice?

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Speaker 4: I like a good rhyme or an alliteration.

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Speaker 6: I can get behind all those, and if it has

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some kind of silliness to it, yes, but other than.

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Speaker 2: That interesting okay, well, yeah, that's that's cool.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a Liverpoolian. I'm from Liverpool in New York. Do

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people say that there? I have no idea. I just

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always said they set out he's from Liverpool.

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Speaker 4: Anyone who says metrol to around New York City is

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a troll?

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Speaker 1: Your Yeah, it was not related to my geographical location.

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They just called me a troll. Coincidentally, it was.

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Speaker 6: A nickname and it stuck and I've kind of gotten

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accustomed to it now.

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Speaker 4: When someone says troll, I I respond, I assume that's me.

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Speaker 2: What is Minneapolis? Just say Minnesota?

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Speaker 5: Like from Minnesota's yeah, like, yeah, there's from the Twins Minnesotan.

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Speaker 1: I don't do you call people from Minneapolis Twin cities?

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Speaker 2: That is, in many Minneapolitans, no one says that.

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Speaker 3: No one says, no one's ever said that.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: You should try a Juicy Lucy if you're in Minnesota.

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Thanks Gemini. Fuck off, you don't know, you don't know

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about Juicy Lucy's.

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Speaker 2: I'm so stupid. Wow, damn, what's new with you? Uh?

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Speaker 3: I watched a movie this morning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you mentioned this and you did not say what

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it was, So yeah, okay.

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Speaker 5: So I'm seeing the Odyssey tomorrow, and I want to

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touch on that with Mary here because I've got some

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thoughts going into it because it's like I don't know

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anything about the Odyssey I like, and it's funny because

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like I've been talking on Giant bomb stuff this week

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about the Odyssey and people are getting mad at me

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as they are wont to do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's an iconic story, right, yeah, like I know

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broad strokes, but I also don't.

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Speaker 2: I like, have never read the Odyssey, Like here we.

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Speaker 3: Go and you've read like every goddamn book in the

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world like that.

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Speaker 1: I know the broad strokes of the Iliad the Odyssey

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like Homer's I understand, like off like certain story.

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Speaker 2: Traits somebody I know it. No, I know what they are.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like I could tell you every plot

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point from every version of the Odyssey is.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's not just that. Okay, well okay. People were

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complaining that, like I was saying, well, you know, I'm

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from Kansas. They didn't teaches this stuff, and like somebody

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in the Commons said, like, I went to your school district,

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like it was definitely part of the curriculum.

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Speaker 2: Classics teacher, Yeah, I taught you this and then I do.

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Speaker 5: I remember we had an eighth grade project called the

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Odyssey where we were supposed to put together is the

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end of the year thing where it's like my Odyssey

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and we'll put together like a timeline of our life

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and essays about things that happened to us. And I

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did kind of remember that we were supposed to also

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read the Odyssey as part of it.

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Speaker 3: So I do think they did try to teach it

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Speaker 6: I think maybe you have remnants of it in there,

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like when you watch it, maybe you'll be like, oh

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my god, I do think I know this part of

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the story.

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Speaker 4: There's like eight parts.

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Speaker 3: I think I will.

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Speaker 5: There will be like creatures and stuff and like oh

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I remember this thing or whatever, and I'll get to

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how the ties on of the movie I watched this morning.

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But the thing I thought, guys, you're right, yeah, well no, no,

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I don't know that. I'm thinking of American ladiators like Zelda.

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Speaker 1: Like most of Zelda Miyamoto has said, like the idea

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of a temple that you're descending into to fight a

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boss is what Odysseus did in the Maze.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, So yeah, if you.

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Speaker 5: Don't know it, you have you understand I'm chrudging that

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a billion things that were inspired by it or directly

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reference it and just didn't.

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Speaker 3: We're like got of war, you know, like all of

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those creatures and stuff. But I also know stuff that.

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Speaker 6: Are vague, like oh, brother, we're out there is very

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directly connected to the Iliad, and like people might not

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directly recognize it, but now after tomorrow, once you've seen it,

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if you rewatch o, brother, we're out though.

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Speaker 4: You'll be like, oh my god, I get it. So

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it's all connected.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing I read about all the movies I

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see and everything, and I do it does like oh brother,

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we're arth though. It came up with that, So I

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knew watching old brother, We're out there that is based

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on the Odyssey and everything, but like I just don't

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know the actual story.

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Speaker 3: So but the thing that got me.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I think the main thing I said that made

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people upset was I was talking about how like I

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don't know a lot of like once you get to

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like castles and swords, times, I don't really know what's

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from mythology, what's from Shakespeare, what's from it's all just

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castles and and what's that's a key one. They that

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didn't make people as mad as when I said I

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didn't know if Joan of Arc or Helen O Troy

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were real, and apparently one of them is very real,

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and one of them Joan of.

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Speaker 2: Arc real person.

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Speaker 4: She really she was really burned, really really.

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Speaker 2: Tragic figure in history. That's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if that was from a Shakespeare thing

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or something.

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Speaker 1: Dad, I'll be the first to tell you if you're

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being stupid for something, I don't think you that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe Watergate was.

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Speaker 1: Let me say what probably pissed people off is that's

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like maybe they thought that's disrespectful to Joan of Arc,

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who's a new, very real person, and like, but I

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don't think that's indefensible or wait, I yeah, I don't

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think that's the end.

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Speaker 2: Of the world. I mean, it's just.

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Speaker 5: Like this is not the era or anything I know

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anything about. So like that kind of goes into what

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I was thinking today watch this movie is because like

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you know, again Castle's swords, I don't know the difference

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medieval or Renaissance or like even like Dracula. I was

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gonna say Dracula times not. I know, Dracula is not tract.

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Speaker 2: Dracula is real, but you know what I mean, like like.

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Speaker 5: Not rot too, like you know, the eighteen hundreds or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Melge he's here, he's in our senate.

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Speaker 1: Then I just lowered you a ladder into the hole,

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and instead of climbing up my ladder, you start furiously

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deep deeper. I just I get what you mean. I

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don't think the joanav rc Helen of Troy thing is

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the end of.

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Speaker 5: The world, right, And for the I'm not saying at

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of is swords and castles, time to make anything pre

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like revolutionary nineteen hundreds. Basically, I'm like, it's all just

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Speaker 1: Difference between like revolutionary war and like midie like medieval.

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Speaker 1: Like hundreds and years of years, but like there's a

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difference between muskets and like yeah.

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Speaker 3: So once there's once there's guns. Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 5: Once there's guns and America, Like, I know that's different

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than like nights and torture and stuff like that. But

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this morning, I so I had to run twelve miles

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today as part of the marathon training. And that's what

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I mean for part of them Earthon training ad. It's

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like it's a schedule, you know. So it's like, and

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I did the math, I'm like, shit, I need a

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long movie to watch for this. And I'm like I'm

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just kind of like looking through what's on Netflix and stuff,

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and I never seen the Northmen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What's his name?

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Speaker 5: Avid Eggers and one of the one of the forties

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stars Guard Kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very gray Bill or Stellin or one of

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the bill is Pennywise.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, And so okay, I guess I'll lightly spoil

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some Northman here, So gip ahead a little b if

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you're worried about that. But it's like, so I go

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into this and anytime I see like a year and

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so again swords and castles, I think my default brain

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state is assuming, like, well, this is probably loosely based

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on reality, and I think it's like like in that

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Brave Heart way where you know, like Braveheart is like

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my understanding is that, like, Okay, this is based on

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an actual war. William Wallace was an actual guy. They

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probably took a lot of creative liberties. But this is

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loosely kind of stuff that happened, you know, in like fiction,

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I guess, yeah. And so like I went into this, yeah,

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Speaker 1: The funny movie that ship, the ending, especially the final duel.

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Speaker 3: Well actially, so that's what I'm thinking of.

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Speaker 5: I'm on this treadmill today and I'm like, all right,

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well this thing it says like a D seventeen hundred

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something and it's like Iceland, and I'm like, Okay, I

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wonder if this is like a real maybe this is

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how Iceland got founded or something. It's like and then

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for like an hour it's not totally supernatural. There's like

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she's like a raven and it's like that, I'm like, Okay,

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maybe this is like a dream or like a drug

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trip or something, or a vision he had and like

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maybe this is still like Iceland's origin or something. And

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then like an hour in, I'm an hour of this

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fucking movie and it's like a talking skull is telling

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him he has to go fight a stalfos night to

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get a magic sword that fucking like only as magic

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at night. And I'm like, okay, I don't think this happens, Yeah,

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inside a volcano. That's I think they're in a volcano

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and it's a hill. But it's so confusing because they're

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also talking about like Christians and stuff and like things

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that like in Iceland they say Iceland and Christians and

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like terms that.

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Speaker 3: Are in the real world. And I was like, let's

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pick a lane here.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if this is supposed to be like

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super duper supernatural or if this is like, yeah, this

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is the Iceland War, you know.

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Speaker 6: But think about anytime you have history that's really really

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old and it's.

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Speaker 4: Passed down from generation to generation, often.

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Speaker 6: Over like a fire, and like kids that are listening

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over generations, it gets more whimsical, it gets more obtuse,

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it gets more exciting because these are stories that are

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being passed down and so a lot of times and

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like there are elements where people are like, yeah, I

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mean these.

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Speaker 4: Places are real.

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Speaker 6: Troy was real, these battles did happen, and then it's

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the details where people will say, well, she wasn't you.

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It wasn't just a battle over like a lady. It

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was the most beautiful woman in the world and her

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face launched you know, a thousand ships, and it's like it.

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Speaker 4: Just starts exaggerating.

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Speaker 6: So there is a possibility to some degree that even

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like these happened, and then somewhere between the eighth and

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the ninth generation they were like they were in a

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volcano when they fought each other, and all the kids

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are eating this shit up, and I think it's genuinely

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how culture tells stories over time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's it's so twisted where it's like, because

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I didn't look it up afterwards to be like, all right,

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is this based on a myth or an actual figure

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of some sort, And like I looked it up and

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it's like the guy's name is like Amlet or something

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or Amulet or It's something is his name, And then

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I clicked the link of like, okay, it's from this

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guy's stage of Britannica or whatever in the twelve hundreds,

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and turns out this guy's also the character that Hamlet

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was based on, which I don't know shit all about Hamlet,

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but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a guy killing his

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uncle in a volcano.

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Speaker 3: Like, like, what the fuck is this? Like how does

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this happen there?

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Speaker 2: It's like, what do you want to call it?

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Speaker 1: Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey like Star Wars is basically taking

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that one for one. George Lucas just read that. I

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was like, I'm gonna do this, but it's gonna be

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a space opera. Like there's only like I don't I'm

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exaggerating here, but there's only like four original stories. There's

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a Gilgamesh, there's BeO Wolf, and then I'm forgetting like

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one or two. But then every single hero story from you,

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it's like, this is very, very stupid. There's really only

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six cocktails, but every single cocktail you've ever tried is

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like a variation of those.

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Speaker 2: It's similar.

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Speaker 1: It's like no a like a last word or a

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last word is not the same as agrony, but they

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basically have their roots in the same thing like similar

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like stories. It's like there's the same tropes that are

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repeated throughout thousands of years, but like the original one itself.

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Speaker 4: Same thing with music too, I mean there's like not

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as many chords as you think.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you.

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Speaker 4: Got, you.

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Speaker 2: Got.

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Speaker 1: That's like there's the scene in the what was that movie?

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I think it was Greg Kinear.

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Speaker 2: Yes, wow, No, it's actually not. It's he's a loyal.

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Speaker 1: And basically they are trying like the he's a def

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I think he's a defense lawyer for someone who invented

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something like some sort of windshield wiper. I'm butchering the

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fucking details. People can email me and tell me what

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it really is, but I think the gist of it,

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he's a defendant saying like, Okay, did Shakespeare invent this word?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: He's like okay, but did Shakespeare write this sentence? And

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they're like, like, I think to be or not to be?

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he used the constituent parts to form this sentence does

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not mean that the person who originally made those words

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are like has like patent rights over. He's trying to

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show how like you can combine things. But like, at

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the end of the day, Shakespeare is still using the

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English language, but it doesn't mean that his stories are

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the same as anybody else writing the English language, even

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they come from the same source. It's very I don't know,

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Speaker 2: What the movie. I think it was Windshield Wipers. I

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don't know why that stuck in my head.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Similarly, it's like, if you really look at

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any story, like Annihilation is kind of like the Odyssey

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because there's four people, Like I don't know. The juice

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of the Odyssey is that Odysseus is getting back trying

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to go home after a ten year war.

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Speaker 2: That's the basic premise.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the journey and is the journey home?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that's where the word odyssey comes from.

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But is the war supposed to be the war of

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like Troy.

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Speaker 4: Battle of Troy is within the war. He's kind of

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the crux of it.

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Speaker 3: This is what sucked me up because I saw Troy

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the brad Pitt one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 5: And it's like, okay, yes, I assumed that was like

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a saving private Ryan type like, here's what the war was,

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like you know.

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Speaker 2: Like that's it, that's all. Yeah, that's that's dude.

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Speaker 6: When he like slowly lowers the knife into his heel

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and he's like no, no, no, and he's like and

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then slowly puts the knife into.

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Speaker 3: See what we're doing here.

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Speaker 2: That's good, thank you.

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Speaker 3: No, but like that before we move on, is that

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was the Trojan war?

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Speaker 2: Real the Trojan So the movie itself with a war

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in Troy.

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Speaker 3: The horse thing happened?

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Speaker 2: No, that that was it?

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Speaker 4: That is a myss No.

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Speaker 3: Do you say why this is confusing?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, that was mentioned in the I believe is

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mentioned in the Odyssey, but it's like, what the hell

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is the word?

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Speaker 2: It's not the Iliad, it's not the Odyssey.

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Speaker 3: The a need A.

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Speaker 2: Need that's another story and I believe that deeper into that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and so does this movie.

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Speaker 6: And so that's kind of important context for people who

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are like, I mean, everyone's hearing about this movie because

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it's like the first movie that was ever made completely

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on imax, which is a huge obstacle in cinema.

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Speaker 4: This machine is like extremely heavy and loud.

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Speaker 6: And it's it creates all these problems, which way they

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never make movies with it.

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Speaker 5: I also heard the camera only the magazine is only

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three minutes of films. She had to shoot like three

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minutes at a time, which is insane.

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Speaker 4: Because it's so much memory that it was a huge

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slog to get it done.

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is just really quickly the actors, because the machine is

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so goddamn big, it's in between them while they're shooting,

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so the actors can't see each other.

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Speaker 4: So they had to invent a series of.

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while they're filming. Because the camera was so big, it's

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in the fucking way, it's in the scenes. They had

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to invent all these things to make sure they could

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see each other. And then when a yeah, like if

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an actor was supposed to like look down the barrel

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of the gun or like you know, look you know,

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directly into the camera, they had to be like, here

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is where you should look, because it's you're just like

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looking at this giant.

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Speaker 3: Of Ferris Bueller monologues to the lens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's constantly You're amazed with how much you will

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not laugh in this film funny at.

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Speaker 6: Just it's never funny. No, it's just not a it's

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not a joke. It's never funny. It's like a very

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intense and it's three.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what I want.

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Speaker 1: I have a bunch of questions for you, and we're

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not to be sure we're not spoiling anything, and like

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I will not like if you are someone who is

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really into the Odyssey or the Iliad and want to know,

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like like we were talking like the Trojan War as

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it's describing the story pretty much did not happen.

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Speaker 2: But there was a city called Troy stuff like that,

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like and there was.

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Speaker 4: A war, yeah, like there were there.

470
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,599
Speaker 1: There wasn't like a ten year siege the over Helen

471
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,079
of Troy etctera, but like it was Helen and Troy

472
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,720
a real person, I don't think so, Okay, I think

473
00:20:29,759 --> 00:20:30,839
she was an invention in myth.

474
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,319
Speaker 2: She was like Zeus is one of Zeus's daughters, I think.

475
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 6: And this is very much based on on gods, So

476
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,880
in this movie there's gods everywhere. But I think in

477
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:45,200
this version of it, the vision for this film feels

478
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,319
mythical yet human because the gods don't look like gods.

479
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,319
Speaker 3: So they aren't like God of War, is it?

480
00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 6: It's it's well, they have like people who look like

481
00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:55,880
people who are gods.

482
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,839
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

483
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,519
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean our dudes like throwing lightning bolts and stuff.

484
00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:05,079
Speaker 6: Oh, it's not like that. It's more like ethereal. But

485
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,920
there are there are mystical There are several mystical creatures

486
00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:12,400
or like things where you're like, that ain't human, that's

487
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,400
not normal, and that's it's spectacular to look.

488
00:21:16,039 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 1: So my friend said, it's as it's the most grounded

489
00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:23,359
version of a story with actual cyclopses that he's seen.

490
00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, Like there's a couple of monsters or things

491
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,920
that aren't human. But then there's also things that I

492
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,799
suspect in the in the in the books are meant

493
00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:37,240
to be much more wild looking, and in this movie

494
00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:41,319
they feel grounded. Maybe the person is bigger than they

495
00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:42,279
should be, but.

496
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Speaker 4: They still look like people. Does that make sense? Or maybe?

497
00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:49,079
Like I think in the end, and again I won't.

498
00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:51,039
Speaker 6: Spoil it, but there's like a there's like a scene

499
00:21:51,039 --> 00:21:55,359
where I think Homer is supposed to be uh or

500
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,240
sorry Odysseus.

501
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,799
Speaker 4: I don't know why I keep calling him Homer.

502
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 6: Odysseus is meant to disguise himself, and I think in

503
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,039
more of like the books and stuff, it's like he's

504
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,359
using magic, like gods are disguising him, and so it

505
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,279
probably looks so cool. And in this one, it's like,

506
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,440
I probably he has like a cloak on him. He's

507
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,319
like wearing like wearing, he's like wearing a robe and

508
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,920
you can't see his face. And I was like, I

509
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,920
don't think it's interesting, right, Like it's it's weirdly grounded

510
00:22:23,039 --> 00:22:23,319
to be.

511
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 4: Like he's disguised.

512
00:22:24,599 --> 00:22:26,599
Speaker 6: You can't see him, can you? But I don't think

513
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,119
that was the original interpretation of it. But nevertheless, that

514
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,279
makes you feel very grounded when you watch it, because

515
00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:37,039
when something not normal happens, it's a spectacle.

516
00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 4: It's shocking because.

517
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 5: Like the idea of the cloak guy being just like

518
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,759
we're going to cut of corners and some costs here.

519
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,079
Speaker 6: I know there's been some people that have ragged on

520
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:51,839
the set, not the set, the outfits, and it just

521
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,680
kind of looks like some of them are three D printed,

522
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,480
which I'm sure is true. I'm sure that's helped a

523
00:22:56,559 --> 00:22:59,240
lot with like the way that they've made certain shields

524
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,240
and helmets that there.

525
00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:03,599
Speaker 4: The design of the warriors looks.

526
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,319
Speaker 6: Awesome, I think, and I think some people have been

527
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,200
like these look ridiculously three D printed, But I just

528
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,839
think it's they wanted a new version, and they wanted

529
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,839
a new vision, and.

530
00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 4: So they took some they took some risks.

531
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 2: The helmet shot.

532
00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:21,079
Speaker 1: I saw the shot of Menelause hunting John Bernhal's character

533
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,119
with like a bon and arrow, but his armor looks

534
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,000
like someone said, it looks like Lulu Lemon made hunting armor,

535
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,000
and I was like, I have Okay. There's a lot

536
00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:33,039
of like controversy surrounding this movie. That's bullshit and people

537
00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:35,359
need to get off the internet. But for that screen shot,

538
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,240
I was like, yeah, that's kind of on the nose.

539
00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:41,079
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm fully in agreement with you. Mike's like they're there.

540
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 6: They were like casting things that people were like, I

541
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,960
can't believe you'd cast the movie is perfectly cast.

542
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, we don't have to get too far

543
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:51,160
into it.

544
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,519
Speaker 4: I don't give.

545
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,599
Speaker 3: Me a one sentence. What is like two woke or

546
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,920
whatever about the Odyssey.

547
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: Uh Athena is played by a black actor.

548
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,279
Speaker 1: I say, you know who was birth out of a

549
00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:06,559
fucking swans egg.

550
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,799
Speaker 2: They were pissed that this was not a realistic white character. Yeah, anyway, and.

551
00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 6: Also this this character is supposed to be like stunningly beautiful.

552
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960
She's written suddenly beautiful, and she's played by the most

553
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,880
stunningly beautiful actress.

554
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: Like it's it's.

555
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,279
Speaker 6: Unbelievable, and so like, I think it's unnecessary to even

556
00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:27,880
go down that route. The point is is like the

557
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,039
casting is extremely good, the acting is very good, but

558
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,519
you also have to recognize all of this dialogue was

559
00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:37,440
written in yesteryear. It was written so long ago that

560
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,880
half of it wouldn't make sense. They had to rewrite

561
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:45,319
it in modern day speak because it it wouldn't translate. Well,

562
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,079
if you literally tried to make a Hamlet today the

563
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,160
way they talk, you'd be like, I don't get it,

564
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,559
what's going on? Like who's who's with who? Because of that,

565
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,319
I think sometimes the writing will suck you. It sucked

566
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,640
me out of the film where I was like, well,

567
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,279
I wouldn't say that, and it's just.

568
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: Like that's how they talk.

569
00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:07,519
Speaker 6: They tried to merge old ass language with the way

570
00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:12,920
we talk today, and sometimes that means you know, yeah,

571
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,920
they're saying like, you know, I'm not going to take

572
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,079
this l They're running around with a with a mix

573
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,359
of dialogue, but I think it's a really nice mix

574
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,480
of the world and it's a feast for the eyes

575
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:26,519
in terms of how many times I went ooh, like

576
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,319
that is a lot of times you're like leaning back

577
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:32,640
in your chair because the action sequences or the these

578
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,920
poor dudes. The general plot here is is this is

579
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,400
after the war, they are ready to go home.

580
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:39,319
Speaker 4: Is a bunch of really strong men.

581
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 6: They're all warriors, they're all extremely what they did because

582
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,720
they just did a war and one because they're so good.

583
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:50,519
But they keep coming into shit on their way home,

584
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,039
and it is it is like dire, like it just

585
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,680
keeps getting like damn. It just like hit after hit

586
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,200
after hit to these like really strong dudes. So every

587
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,680
time it happens, it's really shocking to watch these like

588
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:07,960
really strong, very surefaced, muscular warriors face absurd situations, not

589
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:10,000
just in terms of like maybe a giant or like

590
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:14,400
some kind of being, but also sneaky stuff like witches

591
00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:17,480
and sirens and sirens are like an ethereal, you know,

592
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:19,279
you know, there's like that lore that if you hear

593
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:19,720
their song.

594
00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: You'll that's that's sirens.

595
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 4: That's a sirens call.

596
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:27,279
Speaker 5: Okay call. I hate most of these things. I'm probably

597
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:28,319
gonna recognize from God of War.

598
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 6: You know, I think you're absolutely right interpretation luckily for me,

599
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:37,640
because I also haven't I haven't read these books, but

600
00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:42,559
I have seen the Wishbone episode. Wishbone was the dog

601
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,480
that would play different characters in books and try and

602
00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:50,400
explain the books. And it is unbelievable to me how

603
00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:54,240
much my understanding of this Wishbone episode came in to

604
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,960
serve me during this movie.

605
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 4: I knew exactly what I knew it was gonna happen

606
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,319
the whole time. You guys, you see in the Wishbone episode.

607
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 6: You've seen this film and like maybe the design is

608
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,960
a little nicer, but like it's so funny, even like

609
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,039
the major plot, like the ending, it's Wishbones episode. You guys,

610
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:17,319
like I was, I was laughing, Yeah, quick appearance, so Hilaire,

611
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,640
Yeah there there is a puff in.

612
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 4: Uh, there is a pupp not a see.

613
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 6: It's really good and he's really cute and plays like

614
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:28,680
a pretty vital role as he should. I was laughing

615
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,920
at myself, like how much, Uh, I mentioned something that

616
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,039
I won't bring up now because I think it's too

617
00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:35,640
much of a spoiler. And my friends were like, that

618
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,960
didn't happen in the books, and I closed my mouth

619
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,680
because I was like, ooh, that's a Wishbone reference. They

620
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,519
must have been wrong.

621
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,079
Speaker 4: It was in the movie. He was right the whole time.

622
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,519
My friends must have like missed a piece of the book.

623
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 6: But Wishbone got it right, and Mary got it right

624
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,880
because I had wash Wishbone. So like that episode, and

625
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,319
maybe Wishbone in general has saved me from embarrassing myself

626
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,440
in terms of like not knowing what books were about.

627
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 5: Well, is it even like an applicable question to ask,

628
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,799
like what year or time period does this take place in?

629
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: Or is it just like the past?

630
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,079
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not sure if because it's so based

631
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,839
in Greek mythology, if it has a year, Mike, you

632
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,079
might be better to answer that.

633
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,079
Speaker 3: But generally when we talk was the Trojan War?

634
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,799
Speaker 1: I mean, let me let me, I really don't know, Uh,

635
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:23,640
the Trojan War again didn't really happen like in the

636
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,440
way we know it.

637
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 4: They don't even again, this is great Greek mythology.

638
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I want to say Homer like the Odyssey,

639
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,319
the epic poem was like, fuck, I'm gonna sound stupid.

640
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,000
Four hundred BC. Okay, fact check that. That's not even

641
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:40,480
fact checking. It's see how close I was, or just

642
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,599
see like when was the Odyssey written?

643
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 3: Let's see the Odyssey was.

644
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,839
Speaker 2: It's absolutely BC. It's it's it's it's a while ago.

645
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,759
Speaker 5: Uh, boys, you think it's usually books. They just have

646
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,400
a thing there. Okay, first composed around the eighth or

647
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,640
seventh century BC.

648
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,839
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ eighth or damn it.

649
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say so, like, okay, so seven or

650
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,160
eight hundred BC. Yeah, okay, I was not nearly far enough.

651
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's good.

652
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,039
Speaker 6: I will say, like, I didn't see it in IMAX,

653
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:12,119
and I wish I had.

654
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: I do an IMAX.

655
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you kind of cut out some of

656
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:17,559
the There were action scenes where I felt like it

657
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:20,079
was really zoomed in because I'm losing I was losing

658
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:22,160
like probably a third of the screen, you know what.

659
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,839
Speaker 5: I'm confused by it because, like I know, the IMAX

660
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,319
thing is a huge deal with this, and so I

661
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:26,880
want to make sure I'm like seeing it in the

662
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,319
best possible way and so I looked it up in

663
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:31,039
like the theater I'm seeing it, I has, like, okay,

664
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:33,880
Imax with laser, which is what we're seeing, which sounds

665
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,039
like that's like one of the good.

666
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,079
Speaker 4: Lasers right into your eyes.

667
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then.

668
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 5: There's Imax, like there's a seventy milimeter one, and like

669
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,079
I looked it up and I saw a chart that

670
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:43,680
shows the difference, and it's like the polar opposite, like

671
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:45,039
Imax is.

672
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: Like a square four three, yeah, and the.

673
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 5: Seventy milimeter is just the most just like the super

674
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,759
duper crazy, like you got like four monitors strung together,

675
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,240
Like how could you shoot a movie for both? Like

676
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,799
I don't really understand how that works.

677
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:02,839
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, they have, they have visuals guides when

678
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,440
they're making this, just like just like you do when

679
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,240
you shoot anything, you recognize that there's a safety center

680
00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:11,079
that you could do it. But the way it was

681
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,000
intended was on Imax in that four x three version,

682
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,559
so that, yeah, the laser is how I would see it.

683
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: No, I saw it.

684
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,559
Speaker 6: I saw it on a broke boy theater. I saw

685
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:24,519
in a regular theater for regular people. I thought it

686
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,799
was fantastic and I still enjoyed myself fully and I would.

687
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,240
I think my lasting point is is like, yes, I

688
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,119
think I probably there were some action scenes where I

689
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:34,839
didn't see all of it, right. I don't think I

690
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,640
saw all of the detail that the director had in mind.

691
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:39,519
Speaker 4: It's a fuck.

692
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 6: Movies are expensive. This movie was expensive to see as

693
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,359
it was.

694
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:47,039
Speaker 4: My popcorn was like twenty dollars.

695
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 6: See it, however you want to see it like I

696
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,079
saw it on a regular ass screen and I had

697
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,200
a great time. And I don't know, I can't possibly.

698
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,839
I don't feel like in good conscience I could say

699
00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:01,519
if you don't see it on Imax, you're not seeing

700
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:02,839
It's like, shut the fuck up.

701
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:03,519
Speaker 4: Watch the movie.

702
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,359
Speaker 6: However, you can't afford to watch the movie and enjoy it.

703
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,319
I thought it was great on a regular screen.

704
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: Is this a good uh?

705
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,039
Speaker 5: Because I love I'm sending it at an AMC and

706
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:15,640
they got that mcguffin's bar, and I love getting drinks

707
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,279
during movie.

708
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:18,359
Speaker 4: I love getting a drink, the gimmick.

709
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 5: Drinks like they have, Like so I'm looking at the

710
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,400
hero's journey. Is the cocktail for this? We're like a

711
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,359
ten AM show. Would this be a good drinking movie?

712
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,119
Speaker 6: I think it's a good drinking movie because it's three hours, and.

713
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: So you think I can go three hours without a drink.

714
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: By the final button, She's got a problem.

715
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,079
Speaker 6: I saw it at the place where they bring you

716
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,759
like dinner, and I got I got boneless wings, and

717
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,359
it was awesome because I had coursed it out. So

718
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,680
I did fried pickles as my app with a drink,

719
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,440
boneless wings with loaded fries from my main and then

720
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,480
I got like popcorn, salt and vinegar my dessert. Yeah,

721
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:02,920
because I'm not much of a dessert person.

722
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: It's a bold person who gets bone in wings in

723
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:12,079
a dark r Yeah, just say fucking everybody hears you

724
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,960
crunching and yelping.

725
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: I have a rack of ribs with the oh, I.

726
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: Could not imagine. I feel like I have been the

727
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,319
theaters that have.

728
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:27,559
Speaker 6: Like full on nice meals, you know, like a like

729
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,680
lamb chops and stuff like that, and I'm always like,

730
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,319
it feels wrong to watch a movie with such a

731
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:36,200
fine meal. I don't the juxtaposition doesn't make sense to me.

732
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,000
But but boneless wings and the Odyssey was where it

733
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,720
was actus. It was constantly I constantly had something to do, right,

734
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:45,759
you're constantly drinking and like watching this and not that

735
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:48,599
it's boring, but three hours is a long time.

736
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: There are stretches where they're just like.

737
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,279
Speaker 6: On the water and they're like I don't know, maybe

738
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:56,640
we're lost, and it's like all right, like another double Sarah.

739
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,599
Speaker 4: Like there are.

740
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,799
Speaker 6: Times I've said this before. I think it's a controversial.

741
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,880
I don't think any truly needs to be three hours.

742
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't.

743
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:06,319
Speaker 6: I do not believe so, not in my heart of hearts,

744
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,960
except for Lord of the Rings extended edition that gets

745
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,920
like one pass everything else. Most of the time, I

746
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,559
feel like you could have you could have cut a

747
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,880
couple of pieces from.

748
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,519
Speaker 1: This, including his previous movie, which I thought Boppenheimer was.

749
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:21,759
Speaker 3: It's pretty.

750
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: Heimer, but it was.

751
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:26,039
Speaker 1: There were some stretches were like all right, I don't

752
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:27,960
I don't need this part of this courtroom hearing.

753
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: I heard that people who like that movie are called Opaheim's.

754
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:34,319
Speaker 3: Oh nice, nice that.

755
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: I made that up.

756
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: It sounds right.

757
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: They don't have any fans. That movie is universally disliked.

758
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: It's fine.

759
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: I made that up.

760
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: Took that.

761
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 6: I heard Barbenheimer, and I remember vividly I loved Barbenheimer,

762
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:04,759
and I remember looking out of Oppenheimer. I did Barbie second.

763
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,119
I can't remember. I actually remember I walked out of

764
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,360
Oppenheimer saying that's a film, and walking out of Barbie

765
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,599
and being like, what.

766
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,599
Speaker 4: The fuck was that about.

767
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,679
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I didn't love it.

768
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 6: I was like, it's just nonsensical. Barbie was like, we're

769
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,239
going to the Magical Gum Drop Kingdom.

770
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 4: Get on the bike. I was like, I don't know

771
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,599
what's going on. I knew exactly what was going on

772
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,639
in Oppenheimer. They just talked a lot.

773
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: Oh god, Amanda and I both left bar We saw

774
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,400
Oppenheimer first with a few friends, then we saw Barbie

775
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,400
and we're like, I think I.

776
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: Like Barbie more than Oppenheimer.

777
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:42,679
Speaker 6: I I liked Oppenheimer more, but I think they were

778
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,559
both fun when actually Oppenheimer isn't fun at all.

779
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,159
Speaker 4: I think they were doing a different thing.

780
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,519
Speaker 2: They were doing.

781
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:50,519
Speaker 4: They were trying very different journey.

782
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. It's just a yellow drink with

783
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:54,199
lemons in it. That's the.

784
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 5: Bies.

785
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

786
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:03,519
Speaker 5: It says tart honey spice cocktail with a legendary finish.

787
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: Okay, am I thinking of a Yeah, I think it's

788
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,800
a beasknees honey, lemon bourbon.

789
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: I might be coating something. I might be confused.

790
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 4: There's only five cocktails.

791
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: There's only six of them.

792
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,559
Speaker 5: I love going to the bar at r AMC because

793
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:20,280
it's always the same bartender lady.

794
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,519
Speaker 3: She's great. She seems like she's like.

795
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,039
Speaker 5: Like this fifty year old probably worked a bunch of

796
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:26,360
like dive bars her entire life. But then it's obvious

797
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,719
she loves movies, and so every time I go in,

798
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,760
she's like, all, what are you seeing?

799
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,599
Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna see honest Oh yeah, yesterday. It's awesome.

800
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 5: It's like and I always come out two or three

801
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,840
times during the movie and get another drink or whatever,

802
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,239
like how's it going, what's going on? Did you get

803
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,280
to this bart and it's just chatting movies with this

804
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,519
bartender getting gimmick drinks, Like I love this try.

805
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:44,679
Speaker 1: That would be awesome to have to, like to be

806
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,519
a regular and have a usual at a movie theater bar. Yeah,

807
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:49,679
she's got it ready for you at certain times, like

808
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,960
I'll be out an intermission, dude.

809
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,559
Speaker 5: And there are times too where it's like she gave

810
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:54,199
me I think the dead Reckoning was the name of

811
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:56,360
the cocktail permission impossible, and it was like blue and

812
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,800
had all this stuff in it, and she gave it

813
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,239
to me. It's this giant, expensive drink and and then

814
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,559
I came out to piss at one point during the movie,

815
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,760
and she like ran across the like the thing to me,

816
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,519
and she's like get in here, like pulled me into

817
00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:09,880
mcguffin's and she's like, I forgot to put the pineapple

818
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,239
juice in it.

819
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,079
Speaker 3: Here, you go have another one. I was like, fuck, yes,

820
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,039
that's awesome.

821
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,639
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good bar tends awesome.

822
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, a good.

823
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 6: Bartender is like, I messed up this drink and I

824
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:20,840
don't know.

825
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't drink it. Do you want to

826
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,360
drink it?

827
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 6: And it's like we all know that I'm gonna drink

828
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,239
this drink. I had the opposite experience I went to.

829
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,000
When I went to the bar, I got a I

830
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,199
got a whiskey sour which they make with egg white

831
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,000
and shaken and I was like, great, that's how I

832
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,280
like it. And then when I was in the theater,

833
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:44,880
you order VIAQR code, and so I tried to order

834
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,239
another whiskey sour via QR code, but in this theater,

835
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,679
they don't have cocktails by list. You order the liquor

836
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,880
and then the additives and then how you want it.

837
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,960
And so I said, okay, it's a whiskey sour, so

838
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,360
I want a double of bourbon. And then I said,

839
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,239
I want sour mix because that's what you need, and

840
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,239
I want it served up, and so I I ordered it,

841
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,000
and I was like, I'm sure they know what to do.

842
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:17,400
And I got a fucking whiskey and and sour mix

843
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:21,400
neat on a in a glass and it was awful

844
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:23,719
and I drank it, but I was like, this is.

845
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:24,519
Speaker 2: Not what I wanted.

846
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,519
Speaker 1: I think sour takes some a bit of prep. Yeah, yeah, approach.

847
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:30,599
Speaker 2: Egg whites listed on that list, I'm assuming.

848
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,559
Speaker 6: No, they didn't have add egg to my content.

849
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,039
Speaker 2: I get that in like in a movie theater setting,

850
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:37,519
but like.

851
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,079
Speaker 4: This, I was hoping they'd put it together. I thought

852
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:41,880
they would put it together. They did not put it together.

853
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 5: Well that's weird to me because like this, this particular

854
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,440
context sounds terrible for ordering and drink that way, because

855
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,239
like even if I went to a normal bar, like

856
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,320
I don't want it to be like a Chipotle, or

857
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,119
like I go to a soft serve place, and I

858
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:54,239
pointed three topics that were like I want to just

859
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,119
like if you're in a movie, you want to scan

860
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:57,920
the QR code, press a button. And then like, I

861
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,000
don't like the idea of like putting together a drink

862
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:01,800
while you're sitting in a seat at a movie, like.

863
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: The cocktail mix and yeah, it's not everybody does at all, Like, yeah,

864
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,119
that's that's annoying. I think they're assuming you'll either want beer,

865
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,119
wine or like.

866
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 3: A mixture something.

867
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:13,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

868
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 6: The guy was like, I don't know, I got all

869
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,199
this shit back here. What does she want from me?

870
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,000
She wants she wants a she wants no ice, she

871
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:23,719
wants it served up with. All right, whatever, lady, here's

872
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,400
your growth, here's your juice, here's your juice and whiskey.

873
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,519
Speaker 4: And I was like, God, damn it. That was my odyssey,

874
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,559
was not was dealing with like alcohol.

875
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 6: Anyway, I think people will like it. It's got great,

876
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:40,000
it's got so much attention. I'm sure there's going to

877
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:43,320
be the occasional hater. But my suspicion is that both

878
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,199
of you will walk out of that and say, what

879
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,199
a ride, because that's truly what it is. You're watching

880
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,239
like a group of burly men attempt to go home,

881
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:54,239
and it's really fucking difficult.

882
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: I've seen every Nolan movie. I still have not seen Tenant.

883
00:38:58,559 --> 00:38:59,559
Speaker 3: It's such ship.

884
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:01,119
Speaker 2: That's the only one.

885
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:04,159
Speaker 1: And I will say every single movie by Christopher Nolan,

886
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,119
even I would say maybe his weakest movie is.

887
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 3: The Dark Knight Rises Tenant.

888
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Tenant.

889
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,079
Speaker 1: I've seen Okay, I'll take your word for it, and

890
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:13,280
I've heard that from some people.

891
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have.

892
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:16,159
Speaker 2: I know one person who defends it vehemently, and.

893
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:17,559
Speaker 3: I'll tell you they're an idiot.

894
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: I'll tell you when we're not recording. Okay, uh, it's

895
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,880
someone we like.

896
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:24,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, not anymore.

897
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: Wait, I'll look at my letter box and see what

898
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,280
people I know scored it.

899
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,159
Speaker 2: His his movies.

900
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,559
Speaker 1: They're always so easy to pick apart and say this

901
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:35,199
is so stupid, like oh, like Talia Algol's death, why

902
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:37,239
didn't you use a different take in Dark Knight Rise?

903
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,280
But like, oh right, not being said, they always stick

904
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,440
with me in a way that I like going back

905
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:43,800
to them.

906
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: Interstellar.

907
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: When I first saw it, I was like, that was

908
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,639
a messy as fuck, But now that I go back,

909
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:51,079
I'm like that movie's actually like maybe top twenty five

910
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:53,559
for me, even though I could pick it apart.

911
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,519
Speaker 5: Sure most of his stuff, because like I think, I

912
00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:00,920
like to love to like all timer all of his movies,

913
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,280
you know, except fore Tennant, which I am looking right now,

914
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,599
and I need to talk to Casey Malone. I need

915
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:08,480
to talk to Leo Vader. Gave it three stars out

916
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:10,440
of five. That's fine, sees, I could tell you. I

917
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,400
guess I could tell you who it is.

918
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: If that many people it's a Simon from rock Star.

919
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 2: It's like trying, like like pushing me to watch it.

920
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,599
He's wrong, and it's not okay, it's wrong. It's yeah,

921
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:23,280
it's okay. I like, I just haven't.

922
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 5: I'm looking at grubs review on Letterbox. He gave it

923
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,719
three stars, which sure finds it two stars.

924
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:30,079
Speaker 2: Too high five.

925
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,559
Speaker 5: And he says it's bullshit, but at least it's my

926
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:32,800
kind of bullshit, all right.

927
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 3: I can accept that. I can accept that.

928
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Because, like I still mean, I think maybe oppenheimerg a challenges.

929
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,360
I still think Dunkirk is Nolan's quote unquote like best

930
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,320
movie because he's actually restraining himself. And I like that

931
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,039
movie a lot, but it's not the movie that I

932
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,239
always want to go back and watch. I love rewatching

933
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,760
the Batman movies, even Dark Knight Rises every single time

934
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,719
I watched him like this is so stupid in some.

935
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: Parts fun though this is a terrible take.

936
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: But it's still like the dude understands momentum and they're

937
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:02,360
always gorgeous shit going on. And I love that he

938
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,840
tries his absolute best, Like the fact that Odyssey was

939
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,320
shot with such like space age technology but he's also

940
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,599
trying to do as much of it analog as possible

941
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:17,639
is pretty awesome. But those movies always stick with me

942
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:20,559
and I I he's I'm not going to say he's

943
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:22,119
like one of my favorite directors, but like.

944
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 4: Movies, that's because they're made for you.

945
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:34,599
Speaker 6: Nolan makes films about the terrible feelings of a man,

946
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:36,360
and that is what he is known for.

947
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:39,079
Speaker 4: All of his films are like, oh.

948
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 6: It is so hard being a dude, and and that's

949
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:47,800
why they appeal to you, guys.

950
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 2: He got to like a flesh down there you go.

951
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: Woman character was Jessica Chestain an Interstellar, and even that

952
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,199
that movie became more about his experience though than her.

953
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,599
Speaker 2: She became she became the elderly woman.

954
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:00,519
Speaker 4: That's right.

955
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:04,639
Speaker 6: It's about the experience of a man emotionally dealing with

956
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:06,039
the subject matter that Rachel.

957
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: Rachel gets blown up in Dark Knight.

958
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 6: And didn't that make Batman feel things? Wasn't that hard?

959
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:18,679
I think about that every time I watch the next

960
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:20,840
Nolan film, I go, I, I know a man is

961
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,280
going to go through some real tough stoff and it's

962
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,480
gonna make him feel bad, and we're gonna we're gonna

963
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,159
really empathize with this man.

964
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: No Dunkirk, they saved a lot of women back in London, and.

965
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 5: It was those guys got shot with bullets and I

966
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,360
heard think about the boys.

967
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,679
Speaker 4: I think about them boys movies. I always think about

968
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,119
the boys. Every time I go to the theater, I go, man,

969
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,119
I really hope they tell a story about how a

970
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:47,000
man feels.

971
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Oppenheimer and Barbie in that context are

972
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:54,599
really wow. I know, now you're not wrong. What's There's

973
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:57,039
a lot of Fridge wives in Nolan's movies.

974
00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 6: Like their background characters for sure, and this movie is

975
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:03,800
no exception. I think that it has some pretty sick

976
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,400
lady moments, and I'm happy to say that some of

977
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,400
them are like so memorable. I think there's like a

978
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,760
a scene she's not I don't think she's like one

979
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,280
of the famous actor scenes. She's like a you know,

980
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,239
they they're hungry and there's a lady who needs to

981
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,800
feed them, and that scene will stick with me.

982
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 4: For a while.

983
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 6: There's some really good sequences.

984
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,559
Speaker 4: Who's to say, but I.

985
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 6: Think, uh, I think they it's an iconic film. I

986
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,840
think it's a very memorable film, and I think that

987
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,239
every man who watches it is going to be like, man,

988
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,880
I really was worried about those men, and I'm so

989
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,679
I'm so glad that I saw that because I see

990
00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:43,199
myself in them. You know, how strong they were, sure,

991
00:43:43,559 --> 00:43:53,360
how important they were. How dude, the muscles in this

992
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,400
film is crazy. Everybody's got an eight pack.

993
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,559
Speaker 2: It's it's Tom Holland. Hang don, there's no dong.

994
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,199
Speaker 4: It is bobliss.

995
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: It's not two stars maximum I know outside of I

996
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,440
don't even know who's in this A lot of Tom Holland,

997
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:13,960
Robert Pattinson, Lapita Longo, Anne Hathaway is his wife back

998
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:18,079
home Enda John Marl Zendia is she?

999
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:19,599
Speaker 3: Who is she?

1000
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,039
Speaker 4: She's a god? Is she?

1001
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:26,199
Speaker 2: Athena? Did I butcher it. There's Lapita, there's Lapita's Athena.

1002
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,639
Speaker 4: I get them mixed up.

1003
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 6: But Zindia is a god and uh Lupita is the

1004
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,519
one who the face that launches a thousand ships.

1005
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: She's really yes, okay, okay, that's.

1006
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,159
Speaker 6: Yes, that's right because Athena is the one that like

1007
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,840
dresses him up as a disguise and it's a fucking rag.

1008
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: There's more. There's like other famous people in it.

1009
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 6: I feel like, but it's got a crazy cast and

1010
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:57,639
it's and it is really well casted.

1011
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: I think anyone who criticizes the cast is crazy.

1012
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 6: See it's it's very brilliantly casted and every everyone, even

1013
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,360
like the ones where people were like, I don't know

1014
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,280
about this, they do a great job. Robert Pattinson is

1015
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,159
a fantastic, fantastic actor, and it's so fun to see

1016
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:17,000
him in this role because he's usually like, I don't know,

1017
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:19,320
he's just usually such a beloved character. So it's really

1018
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,000
fun watching him not being the main guy.

1019
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 5: It's funny because like, I feel like my my feelings

1020
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,000
in Pattinson are similar to how I felt about DiCaprio,

1021
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:28,880
where it's like when they first start you know, like

1022
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:31,239
him with Twilight and DiCaprio kind of like, I know

1023
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,039
he did Steff four Titanic, that was a big thing.

1024
00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:35,119
I just kind of assume they're like, oh, Okay, these

1025
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,039
are these like heart throb types or whatever that are

1026
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:40,760
just like not great actors. And then afterwards and he's like,

1027
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,960
oh wait, okay to Caproo's one of my favorite actors.

1028
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,960
And then I haven't seen any Twilight thing, but I've

1029
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,559
every single thing I've seen Robert Pattinson, and I'm like, oh,

1030
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:48,360
this guy's awesome.

1031
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 4: You've seen The Lighthouse, right, He's so.

1032
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:52,519
Speaker 3: Probably next that's coming up.

1033
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I should watch The Lighthouse, right.

1034
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 5: I was thinking about that today because it's like, man,

1035
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,599
I'm really liking The Northman a lot, so I should

1036
00:45:58,639 --> 00:45:59,400
check out The Lighthouse.

1037
00:45:59,480 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 4: I think.

1038
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,199
Speaker 6: So Lighthouse was the one that put Robert Pattinson on

1039
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:04,840
the map for me where I was like, oh, this

1040
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,480
guy is not a heart throb, this guy is an actor.

1041
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does some stuff in that movie that I

1042
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:11,599
was like, this is bold.

1043
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good, it's fine. I'm looking forward to seeing that, Daniel.

1044
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:18,199
Speaker 4: I'm excited to hear what you guys think. Yeah, I am.

1045
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 6: I excited to hear what everybody thinks with the world things.

1046
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,199
It's like probably like one of the biggest releases of

1047
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,639
all time. I think it's opening box office was like

1048
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:26,239
one hundred and twenty million. Like this is going to

1049
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,760
be one of those movies that everybody's it's Nolan. It

1050
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,880
appeals to all men. This is going to be a

1051
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,280
big one, and it's true.

1052
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:38,119
Speaker 4: But they love it. They want to make it for

1053
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:39,519
the men, and they did.

1054
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: We have movies for us.

1055
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: Finally, boys, we're.

1056
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: Tired of all these lady movies, all these women.

1057
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 4: When will they make one about war?

1058
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: They need to make one about war and men returning

1059
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,440
home after war and having a hard time. Now, Like

1060
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:59,000
it's funny because the King Arthur, the Clive Owen one.

1061
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,800
Did you ever see that with Kiaren? I watched that

1062
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,840
movie weird when growing up, Like I just like that movie.

1063
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,639
That's about like certain versions of the King Arthur and

1064
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:10,920
Camelot story are the odyssey He's trying to get.

1065
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: Home after war. It's so much of this here Russell

1066
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,079
Crowe is trying to get home and then he gets Basically.

1067
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: It's all the same. Dan. Once you see this, what

1068
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,719
I think would be neat is.

1069
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 6: Maybe you could keep like a little notes document or

1070
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:25,280
just like an audio tab of any time you're like.

1071
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 4: Oh, is that Odyssey or Iliad related?

1072
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 6: Because there's gonna be so many pieces in this movie

1073
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,920
where you'll be like, that's familiar, and I think they

1074
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:37,920
stole this. And that's because every fucking movie we've ever

1075
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,199
seen has stolen from Iliad and Odyssey, like they've they're

1076
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:47,480
all they're all so borrowed games one hundred percent. This

1077
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,679
is a very familiar subject matter. But you're seeing I mean,

1078
00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:53,360
I don't know if these even the original, but you're

1079
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,280
seeing like the original as far as back as we know,

1080
00:47:56,519 --> 00:48:01,239
interpretation of some of these story story elements, and like, yeah,

1081
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,199
the general consensus is get home, good fucking luck, and

1082
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,760
and it's great. It's it's a great journey. I think

1083
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,320
you guys will like it.

1084
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,119
Speaker 2: Enough About movies though, do you want to talk about

1085
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:12,679
video games?

1086
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: Yes?

1087
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I hope they're about men.

1088
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: They don't make games about the men.

1089
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: About men and.

1090
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: Being a father and how God changed us on my son.

1091
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,280
All right, Mary, I finally played Taro tech Legion. Yeah,

1092
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,480
I was dming you guys a bit about it.

1093
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: You're You're both.

1094
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:34,039
Speaker 1: Right, Mary, you were right initially and Dan and your

1095
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,719
support for it, that game's rad.

1096
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:36,519
Speaker 2: Uh.

1097
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,079
Speaker 1: I don't have too much new stuff to say. I

1098
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:42,360
will say, Dan, I think you had a concern where

1099
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,320
it's like, all right, well, if I'm stopping every x

1100
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,960
seconds to like add to my car, I feel like

1101
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,719
that'll hurt the momentum you gain during something like MEGABONK

1102
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,159
or Vampire Survivors or Deep Rock Survivors. But the game

1103
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,079
is structured such where it's like they make building the car,

1104
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:02,800
so the games that like, it's not it's not that

1105
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,880
that's taking away from the momentum of the game. It's

1106
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,960
like you're you are putting more thought into it, and

1107
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,840
it's not like you're not like engineering rockets. You're just

1108
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,559
stacking stuff in a way that's very resonuval for at

1109
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,880
Ta Shay case, kind of like making sure things fit,

1110
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:18,960
thinking about the firing arc of different things, like Okay,

1111
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,760
I want to give this as much three sixty room

1112
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,760
as possible, so I'm not blocking. It's like I still

1113
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,920
don't even have the fourth character. I've just been playing,

1114
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,320
like I think I played three hours total and I'm

1115
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,800
like already really hooked on it from I DMed you

1116
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,679
guys as like, I started like putting all the spikes

1117
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,280
on the side of my car so I could drift

1118
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,039
into crowds, and you asked me if I had them.

1119
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:39,119
Speaker 2: Apparently the fourth character is based around drifting.

1120
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:40,159
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, so.

1121
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:43,119
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to getting them. But yeah, the game's awesome.

1122
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:45,519
Speaker 1: I also just love the different like biomes you get into,

1123
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,639
Like it's yeah, crunchy. Uh, there's a lot of side

1124
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:53,159
stuff to pursue. But at first the steering felt a

1125
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:55,480
bit too floaty. But then I started like, that's kind

1126
00:49:55,519 --> 00:49:57,679
of on purpose because you get the gripstat which you

1127
00:49:57,679 --> 00:50:01,400
can improve, which from my understanding, makes your steering tighter.

1128
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,760
But then when I'm trying to drift, I don't like

1129
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,559
that stats. So balancing all those different stats and learning

1130
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:10,519
how they work is super fun.

1131
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: It's also funny.

1132
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,199
Speaker 1: It just remembered, like every time I make like a

1133
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,280
monstrosity of a car, I hear cousin Eddie and Christmas

1134
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,760
Vacation saying like, as she abute Clark looking at this.

1135
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 6: Beat up our discussing, yeah, you want it to be symmetrical,

1136
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,159
but you don't. Your your luck isn't there, So you

1137
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,519
keep getting the wrong things and so your your back

1138
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:35,679
end is like all awkward. I also love I think

1139
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,039
it's a contender for most Dewey because there's like no.

1140
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: Story, Like it's not like we gotta kill these aliens.

1141
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 6: They're coming after us, like you don't know, like you

1142
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,880
could be a real piece of ship in this In

1143
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,199
this game, they don't explain.

1144
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 4: Why you're killing everyone. It doesn't who gives a ship

1145
00:50:55,679 --> 00:50:56,239
kill them?

1146
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,679
Speaker 2: Which is saying more good.

1147
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it is. The story is non existent.

1148
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 5: I'm a truck driver and I'm gonna put spikes on it.

1149
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,440
It really is just a trucker and.

1150
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: It's I love that. I love that, dude. Oh yeah,

1151
00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:12,760
that game's awesome.

1152
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: I played quite a bit on just my PC, but

1153
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,519
I also played on Steam Deck.

1154
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:17,199
Speaker 2: It's great on both.

1155
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 5: It's tremendous, like the way it does all the like

1156
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:21,840
putting the car together stuff with just the controller and

1157
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,360
it feels great. Like that could have been that felt fucky,

1158
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,360
that would have ruined the experience. But like and that

1159
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,599
question I had when Mary was describing it before I

1160
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:30,079
played it about like, oh it does a break up

1161
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:30,920
the flow?

1162
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: No?

1163
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,559
Speaker 5: No, no, every single time I go to that screen,

1164
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:35,119
I'm like, hell, yeah, Okay, what am I gonna do now?

1165
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: Like I'm excited you can completely rebuild.

1166
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,079
Speaker 6: It doesn't punish you to say, take everything off and

1167
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:42,079
put it back together again, Like it's just it's it's strategy.

1168
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mary, I think you started like a whole domino

1169
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,199
effect thing when, like, because this game came out in

1170
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,920
like April or something, and I hadn't heard anyone talk

1171
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,280
about it. You mentioned it. I started playing it. I

1172
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,079
go to Giant Bomb starting and we've got some Giant

1173
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,559
Bomb folks planet. Then we got fifty codes from the

1174
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:58,320
developer that we gave out to fans, and like, it's

1175
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,840
like people are playing. I'm seeing people in the industry

1176
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,199
start to pick up on this and stuff like that.

1177
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:05,199
I think you, personally, you telling us about it on

1178
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,760
this show has probably led to thousands of people playing

1179
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,400
this game that had.

1180
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,159
Speaker 3: Not heard about it before.

1181
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,679
Speaker 4: Finally, strong influence.

1182
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,079
Speaker 1: I like that. That's like my main game I'm playing now,

1183
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:18,639
even though I only played three hours so far.

1184
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 4: That's great.

1185
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: Speaking of a newer I believe a new game didn't

1186
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:23,159
come back.

1187
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 4: You both driving Yeah, the.

1188
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: Anc point on bench Attack or not.

1189
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 4: It is there is there is an exclamation.

1190
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: Had a type of damn, why I edit it?

1191
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: This is the longer Oh my god, it's an exclamation point.

1192
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:38,119
I don't.

1193
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:43,519
Speaker 5: I don't Infamous style guid Ship. This was the longest

1194
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:45,960
fucking embargo ever. I played this game like over a

1195
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,199
month ago. It feels like, so I'm kind of like

1196
00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:51,639
good for good for the getting out. It's a good thing.

1197
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:53,280
But it's like, yeah, when you got to like think back, like,

1198
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,320
oh right, okay, that was like.

1199
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,159
Speaker 4: Did I like that?

1200
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1201
00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 6: I played it yesterday, so it's very fresh.

1202
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 4: But I'm curious.

1203
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 3: Did you play Thumper, Mary, Yes, amazing game.

1204
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1205
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,079
Speaker 5: To me, this was like kind of like Thumper meets

1206
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,079
Tony Hawk meets like a Dreamcast game. You know, it's

1207
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,519
all the style of Dreamcast game. It's kind of on

1208
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:15,880
that rail like Thumper. There's a certain amount of kind

1209
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,320
of rhythm to everything and certainly timing, and then the

1210
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,360
Tony Hawk kind of like you're landing stuff into manuals

1211
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,599
like you're you're a bus. That's like grinding on a rail.

1212
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,079
You jump up in the air, you do a flip,

1213
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:28,079
you slam down, and you hold in up to like

1214
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:30,440
do a manual into it, like so you're you know,

1215
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,840
putting combos together and stuff like that.

1216
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: Tricks is a huge part of it.

1217
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 6: You get bonuses for finding things in the world that

1218
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,039
you're meant to interact with.

1219
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 4: So oh god, they're called something.

1220
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 6: There's usually seven of them in a round, and you

1221
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,039
get bonus points forgetting them.

1222
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,559
Speaker 4: One might pay cans or totally.

1223
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,119
Speaker 6: One of them might be like there's an air balloon,

1224
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,440
and if you jump on the air balloon, that counts

1225
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,920
as like one of these like elite tricks. I think

1226
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,119
it's I appreciate your general consensus. I would be nervous

1227
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,199
comparing it to Thumper, only in the sense that I

1228
00:54:03,199 --> 00:54:06,480
think Thumper is like melodic and and then that you

1229
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:10,679
would send out to and it's it is just so

1230
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:16,599
extraordinary of the style, whereas this one it feels.

1231
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: Cartoony and whimsical and silly.

1232
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 6: It's a completely different vibe aesthetically, audio even wise.

1233
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:26,639
Speaker 4: They're kind of just like, that's crazy, do it again.

1234
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:27,760
I don't.

1235
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I felt kind of like this is more youth

1236
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:37,280
kid style for me. When I was playing it, I

1237
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,480
was like, I feel like kids will really like having

1238
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,119
someone be like try that trick again, you know, but

1239
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,280
I don't. Thumper was more like I'm in the fucking zone.

1240
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:49,280
This one was more silly and childlike to me.

1241
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, Thumper is demanding in a way that this is

1242
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,639
like you can kind of float through a level and

1243
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:57,079
die like twenty times on the same weird spot and

1244
00:54:57,079 --> 00:55:00,239
then like maybe you don't get a super ranking and

1245
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,960
get every objective or anything like that, but like you

1246
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,840
can beat most of these levels fairly easily.

1247
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: It's forgiving. It's also uh, it almost has a.

1248
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 6: Uh there's just like such a weird whimsy to it

1249
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:18,000
where all of a sudden you'll be on uh, you'll

1250
00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:21,519
be riding your bus and you'll land on a boat

1251
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,039
and now.

1252
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 4: You're surfing on a boat and your wheel, yeah.

1253
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,679
Speaker 6: Or a ferris wheel and you're you're knocking over machines

1254
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:33,599
to get to the end of this farise fue wheel ride.

1255
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:40,800
It feels ridiculous and uh, otherworldly and animated in this

1256
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,119
like childlike sense of wonder. It feels like a dream

1257
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,280
when you're playing it, which I really liked. I liked

1258
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,079
when they broke out of the mold of you're a

1259
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:52,239
bus doing kickflips, and I liked when they were like.

1260
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 4: Now you're surfing a sick way. That was when I

1261
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,159
felt like I was actually alive in the game.

1262
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 5: That's a good point because it's like I do think

1263
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,679
it is stuck between like okay, kind of whacky, like

1264
00:56:03,679 --> 00:56:06,199
like I think of this game Incredible Crisis for PS one,

1265
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,159
where it is almost like a warrior Ware esque very

1266
00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:12,159
humorous game, one silly thing into another, and it's kind

1267
00:56:12,199 --> 00:56:15,519
of stuck between that and like trying to be a demanding,

1268
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:18,840
like trick based game. It gives you almost too much

1269
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,559
where it's like there are times where it's like like

1270
00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:22,760
the whole First Island is constantly like okay, now here's

1271
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,199
how you wall ride, and here's how you do this.

1272
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,079
Speaker 4: Here's twenty different things you need to learn.

1273
00:56:26,199 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and then here's like you get here's how

1274
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:29,880
like you have to split off and do three different

1275
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,519
objectives here, and here's how we do manuals. Here's you jump,

1276
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:34,199
and then here's how you slam down, and like it

1277
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,000
is just throwing a lot at you. So it does

1278
00:56:36,039 --> 00:56:38,599
feel like it's stuck between like are we doing gimmick

1279
00:56:38,639 --> 00:56:42,119
fun time cartoony game bus skating game, or are we

1280
00:56:42,159 --> 00:56:44,559
doing you know, Tony Hawk Thumper like trying to be

1281
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:46,519
like a more demanding skill based game, and.

1282
00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 4: It's a bit stuck.

1283
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 5: It is, I mean, but that's not to say it's

1284
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,480
not like I've enjoyed it a lot, Like I think

1285
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:53,840
it's a really good game.

1286
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't.

1287
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,079
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's going to be a thing

1288
00:56:57,079 --> 00:56:59,039
where it's like like a Neon White or something where

1289
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:00,800
it's I'm playing these levels over and over again trying

1290
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,880
to you know, get a better score, better time or

1291
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:03,519
something like that.

1292
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 6: Can you compare your scores to your friends online? Because

1293
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,039
I didn't see that when I was playing it.

1294
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,199
Speaker 3: I don't remember, so I've played pre release, so.

1295
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:14,039
Speaker 4: I didn't see your guys' scores.

1296
00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 6: Like we're friends on Steam, so I never saw your

1297
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,760
guys' scores when I was doing it. But it compares

1298
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,079
your time because these are time based levels, plus your

1299
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:26,280
sick flips every time you do a kickflip or whatever

1300
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:30,079
that adds to your score, plus those seven bonuses.

1301
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 4: That I told you about.

1302
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 6: So it's like if you see the hot air balloon

1303
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,320
and you pop it or you like figure out this

1304
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,639
like secret, and there's secrets in every level, which I

1305
00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:39,639
think are really fun. If you do those that all

1306
00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:43,039
adds to your total score. You also get like a rating.

1307
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:45,440
I can't remember what they are, but you get a

1308
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:49,079
rating based on like whether they think you did okay, good, great,

1309
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:51,960
And then you get a final score that you can

1310
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,639
I think stars. Yeah it's one, two, three stars. And

1311
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:58,719
then you get a score. But it's like who am I?

1312
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,239
Who am I replaying this level four so I can

1313
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,119
get the better score?

1314
00:58:02,239 --> 00:58:02,679
Speaker 1: Is my question.

1315
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,159
Speaker 5: It's one of those things where it's like, yeah, if

1316
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:05,920
you're like a game Zene Quick Person or something, I'm

1317
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,159
sure you could do some incredibly impressive stuff where you

1318
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,599
chain at combo the entire level and get every objective

1319
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:14,320
in one run. But like, I think most people are

1320
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,840
going to be like, Okay, that was fun, and then

1321
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,440
move on to the next level and like and that's

1322
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:17,880
fine too.

1323
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,559
Speaker 3: You know you did you?

1324
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 4: How much did you play of it?

1325
00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 6: I only I started playing it yesterday on a plane,

1326
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,559
and I will say it was a great plane game

1327
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,400
on my flight because for this two hour flight, I

1328
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,400
was just doing kickflips and I was completely locked in

1329
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,480
and I really liked my two hours with it.

1330
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 4: This is a portable game. How long is it did

1331
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:40,920
you how far.

1332
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 5: Did I got into? Like I'm probably halfway or a

1333
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,719
little beyond that. And the second island, it's like surprisingly

1334
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,400
like just look at the map. It looks like there's

1335
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,639
you know, I don't know if there's four or five

1336
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:53,159
islands or something. And like each level, like it's like

1337
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:54,719
a Mario World type thing where there's you know, there's

1338
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,159
seven eight levels here, you know, like some side things

1339
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:59,360
and like, oh, this one's like a race, this one

1340
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,800
is a battle thing. This is an objective base thing.

1341
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,519
So there's a lot of variety here. There's just more

1342
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,679
game here than I think I expected from what I

1343
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,519
thought might have been more of a gimmick game.

1344
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 4: You know, you can upgrade your bus.

1345
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 6: There's things you can do to alter your bus to

1346
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,599
make it like, I don't know, more reliable or faster,

1347
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,719
have more acceleration. There's things that you can do to

1348
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,559
esthetically change your bus. I changed all my stickers to

1349
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:22,960
look like like octopus, and it's I have like this

1350
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:26,360
like underwater looking bus. I find it fun if it's

1351
00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:31,400
not obvious to listeners yet, this is this is just

1352
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,360
like another worldly game where buses don't work like regular buses.

1353
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,719
This is This is far beyond crazy taxi. This bus doesn't.

1354
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,519
Speaker 4: Work on any level the way a bus should really work.

1355
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:43,679
And I don't know.

1356
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:47,079
Speaker 6: Exactly why they have had it within the world of

1357
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:49,400
a bus, because it's not operating like a bus. You

1358
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,119
are you're not even hitting a to accelerate except for

1359
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,880
to literally start your bus, you hit go.

1360
00:59:55,719 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 4: Other than that, there's no acceleration.

1361
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:00,199
Speaker 6: You're just you're just grinding and kick flipping and moving

1362
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:02,760
your bus around jumping, yeah.

1363
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 5: Holding the are and then yeah, like what The mechanic

1364
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,239
that feels the best to me is like when you

1365
01:00:06,239 --> 01:00:08,599
do the turn and you hold in lt yes, and

1366
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:10,199
then there's like a little meter that pops up and

1367
01:00:10,199 --> 01:00:12,159
if you let go in the green you can get

1368
01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:14,280
a boost coming out of the turn, which like it's

1369
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,280
almost like that feeling of like on the drift mark.

1370
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 3: Yep, that's it.

1371
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,079
Speaker 6: So one hundred percent, one hundred percent, And I think

1372
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:20,760
that is when the game is the best, is like

1373
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,880
when it gives you little rewards for doing the turns properly.

1374
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,639
Speaker 4: Sometimes you'll see an element in the.

1375
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:29,719
Speaker 6: Sky and it'll be like, Ooh, if I jump at

1376
01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:31,679
the right time, I can grab that item.

1377
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,239
Speaker 4: That feels really good in order to do that.

1378
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 6: I think this game is going to be very addictive

1379
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,719
for a lot of people, especially people who want to

1380
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,400
collect them all got the people who like getting all

1381
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,760
the different items. I think this is going to be uh,

1382
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:47,199
something that a lot of people enjoy. And I also

1383
01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:50,480
think it's accessible to kids because, like we said, if

1384
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,400
you die, you they don't even restart the level. They

1385
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,239
go back ten seconds and a little person.

1386
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 4: Goes, that's not going to stop me. It's kind of

1387
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:04,599
an anime character and they just generously let you. I

1388
01:01:04,639 --> 01:01:04,960
didn't know.

1389
01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 6: You probably noticed this, but the time does not go backwards.

1390
01:01:08,519 --> 01:01:11,840
So if you get hurt, sure, sure you eat that time. Yeap,

1391
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,079
that's your punishment. Is your time is not going to

1392
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:14,519
be as good?

1393
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, overall fun, I'm enjoying it. I mean

1394
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:19,559
it's not one like I don't know if it's gonna

1395
01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:21,480
be top ten of the year for me, but I'm

1396
01:01:21,519 --> 01:01:23,199
having a good time with it. If you, I don't

1397
01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:24,840
know how much it is, but seen on a sale,

1398
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:25,840
you know, grab it.

1399
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 3: How much is it? I'm curious now.

1400
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 4: I know I want to check too.

1401
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 5: This is oh seventeen ninety nine, you know that's that's

1402
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,679
a good price for this. There's a lot of game here. Yeah,

1403
01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:36,960
there's a lot of game here that's.

1404
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 4: Under under twenty bucks is like my new vibe.

1405
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 6: And all the games that I've played this this round

1406
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:49,400
have all been light hitters for me. They've all been like, hey,

1407
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,320
this game's four ninety nine, that's the steal snag that

1408
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,559
bad boy. So yeah, for bargain games, this is a

1409
01:01:56,639 --> 01:01:57,239
heck of a deal.

1410
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: I have a game. Speaking of bardain games, this game

1411
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,360
is thirteen dollars. It came out, I will say, in

1412
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,000
twenty twenty four. Did either of you play Throne Fall?

1413
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:11,159
Speaker 4: No, I don't even know.

1414
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:12,559
Speaker 2: I found it.

1415
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: It's been in my wishless forever and I finally pulled

1416
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,239
the trigger because it's the same publisher as Tarot Tech Legion.

1417
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:21,360
So the best way I can describe it, and I

1418
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,599
will say, it's it's one of those games that starts

1419
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:25,920
very chill, and you think it's going to be very relaxing,

1420
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:28,280
and then it gets to be really intense, like, oh,

1421
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,119
there's way more fucking game here than I thought it

1422
01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:35,079
would be. So generally speaking, it is late base building

1423
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,280
meets light tower defense meets Vampire Survivors.

1424
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,119
Speaker 2: If you look up the store page. I think it's.

1425
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,159
Speaker 1: Gorgeous for it looks fantastic. Did you guys play Door

1426
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,880
Romantic that tie game? It looks like Romantic.

1427
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,119
Speaker 6: It looks like it's a simple in a beautiful way,

1428
01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:52,199
right like minimalist.

1429
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: So it starts off and they're the tutorial and you

1430
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,840
go through a bunch of different biomes. But basically you're

1431
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,559
controlling this person. This the king of a town on

1432
01:03:00,599 --> 01:03:04,280
a horse in this like kind of isometric not top

1433
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,480
down like isometric view.

1434
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:07,079
Speaker 2: In this like look it up.

1435
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: It looks like Door froment kind of watercolored cell shaded

1436
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:10,639
combination world.

1437
01:03:11,079 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: And there are waves wave defense. I should also mention

1438
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,400
the tower defense.

1439
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,719
Speaker 1: So there are enemies that are attacking your town as

1440
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,159
you're building it up and you're just protecting the castle.

1441
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,079
You start off just building bless me, building towers on

1442
01:03:24,199 --> 01:03:28,880
specific plots, building walls around specific lines, and you're upgrading

1443
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,559
your barracks, your archers, range your farms, you're you know,

1444
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:36,280
you're managing your economy similar to real time strategy games,

1445
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:39,159
and your character is auto shooting most of the time.

1446
01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:41,360
And it gets to the point where there's hordes similar

1447
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:46,280
to Vampire Survivors or megabonk et cetera. But you're also

1448
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,800
managing different troops in a very simple way. It works

1449
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,760
well on controller, I will say it works.

1450
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,199
Speaker 6: Are you like an elite attacker, so you you're personally attack,

1451
01:03:54,360 --> 01:04:00,320
but you also yell at people if you die, king man.

1452
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, you start over at the beginning. I think it's

1453
01:04:02,239 --> 01:04:04,960
twenty it goes up. I think it starts at your

1454
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,119
like twenty rounds. You're defending the castle as you're also

1455
01:04:07,199 --> 01:04:09,679
improving it and building up the economy. But it starts

1456
01:04:09,719 --> 01:04:13,199
off at just like enemy archers and swordsmen and spearmen

1457
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:16,639
are attacking you. But like by the biome I'm in, Dan,

1458
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:21,320
you'll appreciate there are like wooden kirov airship blimps attacking me. Okay,

1459
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,719
and your base is no longer just like a few

1460
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,199
farmhouses and mills and fields and the castle. It's like

1461
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:33,320
six layers of walls with turrets and towers strewn throughout it.

1462
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,239
The beginning starts off very meditative and kind of cozy game,

1463
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,920
and it now is at the point where it's actually

1464
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,360
an intense tower defense real time strategy game. It's gorgeous.

1465
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:44,480
It's an amazing steam that game. I will say the

1466
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:49,440
most frustration I've had with controls is you before you

1467
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,800
activate around you literally you hold a to say okay,

1468
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,599
send the enemy troops. Before that, you could do with

1469
01:04:53,639 --> 01:04:56,679
some base building. You can arrange your troops and put

1470
01:04:56,679 --> 01:04:58,400
them at different because like at a certain point, the

1471
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,920
enemy will be coming from like eight different spawns, so

1472
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,159
you could put okay, I it shows you where what

1473
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,679
enemies are gonna spawn there as well, so you could say, okay,

1474
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,239
knights are gonna be spawned up here, so I'm gonna

1475
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,199
put my spearmen there to counter them. So you can

1476
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,239
you can snap them to you hold your character near

1477
01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:17,760
you do like a click and drag near them, and

1478
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,400
then you could just tap a button. Then they'll warp

1479
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,320
to the spot you want as long as the wave

1480
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,800
has not started. Once the wave starts, different units will

1481
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,239
move in real time at different speeds. Selecting all of

1482
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:33,119
them in certain units is not the most intuitive, So

1483
01:05:33,199 --> 01:05:35,800
it's intuitive doesn't always work, I would say, because I, oh, fuck,

1484
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,760
I just accidentally painted a night as well.

1485
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: In addition to these spearmen.

1486
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: That's the extent of my frustrations outside of this, Like

1487
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,920
I was, we were just talking about like a good bargain,

1488
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,719
like thirteen dollars. It's not new, it came out two

1489
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,639
years ago, but like extremely simple idea that they build

1490
01:05:49,719 --> 01:05:52,000
upon in really fun ways. You go to really gorgeous

1491
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,719
different kinds of biomes, like not just artistically, but also like, oh,

1492
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,360
this one has layers of cliffs like terraces that I'm defending,

1493
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,920
like minis Ter with the Lord of the Rings, or

1494
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,159
this one has a lot of different winding pathways through

1495
01:06:04,199 --> 01:06:05,599
the woods to my village, which.

1496
01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:08,719
Speaker 4: Here biomes look like settlers of Catan.

1497
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's another good comparison. It's like they

1498
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,800
play with the art in a cool way throughout each biome,

1499
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,159
but they also play with the actual mechanics of the

1500
01:06:18,199 --> 01:06:20,559
defense in fun ways where it's like, all right, this one,

1501
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:24,559
the castle is very central and safe, but your mills

1502
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:27,440
and fields and farms are way out on the outskirts,

1503
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,280
which means they're the enemy. All they have to do

1504
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,320
is like hit the field once and they' quote unquote

1505
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,480
burned it. So there's like, you, the fields don't cost

1506
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,199
a lot to establish, but they can also destroy them

1507
01:06:38,199 --> 01:06:40,880
really quickly. And it's at that point so like, oh,

1508
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,079
maybe I stationed my troops to protect the mills, and

1509
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:45,840
then I'm kind of roving around and just going where

1510
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:46,679
I'm needed.

1511
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,159
Speaker 2: Based on the mini maps.

1512
01:06:48,159 --> 01:06:50,559
Speaker 1: Great, it'll shop, Okay, Okay, shit, I'm losing a lot

1513
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:52,440
of people up here against this group, so I'm going

1514
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:53,079
to go help out.

1515
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: And you do get some active abilities as well.

1516
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: You start off with a simple sword swing and you're

1517
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,000
automatically shooting arrows the whole time.

1518
01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:02,239
Speaker 2: Later on you get new weapons. Oh shit, I should also.

1519
01:07:02,039 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: Remenzan tons and tons of modifiers, like dizzying amount of

1520
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,840
modifiers where oh your your.

1521
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: Mills take you.

1522
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,159
Speaker 1: They're more expensive to upgrade, but each time you upgrade them,

1523
01:07:14,159 --> 01:07:15,920
they get all three on the tree instead of just one,

1524
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,519
which would be cheaper and faster, et cetera.

1525
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:18,079
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.

1526
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:21,079
Speaker 1: But also like, oh, this weapon will now do AoE

1527
01:07:21,159 --> 01:07:22,840
damage in a way that makes it less like an

1528
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,880
arrow more like a lightning bolt kind of thing. There

1529
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,559
are a ton of those, and it's similar to Tarotech,

1530
01:07:28,639 --> 01:07:31,800
Legion or Vampire Survivors. They have a really good UI

1531
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,360
showing you what you haven't unlocked yet, So like, I

1532
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,440
know what the carrots on a stick I'm chasing are

1533
01:07:36,519 --> 01:07:40,199
at all times for the most part, but you get

1534
01:07:40,239 --> 01:07:44,119
active abilities that keep you from getting too complacent. Like

1535
01:07:44,679 --> 01:07:46,920
I love MEGABONC, but there are times when I'm on

1536
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,559
a flight and I'm playing MAGAPONC, I'm kind of I'm

1537
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,159
almost falling asleep because.

1538
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,119
Speaker 3: It's so passive running and jumping.

1539
01:07:52,199 --> 01:07:54,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this game's great about like, oh, okay, so

1540
01:07:54,679 --> 01:07:59,519
I get a sort attack that the less health than

1541
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:02,719
an enemy has when I attack it, the quicker the

1542
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,159
recharge my active thing will be. So you're kind of

1543
01:08:05,239 --> 01:08:08,000
using it as this assassination like dagger in their back,

1544
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,239
so you can do it quickly again as opposed to

1545
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,480
hitting someone full health, waiting for a much slower radial

1546
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,559
reload and then doing it. But you get a lot

1547
01:08:15,559 --> 01:08:18,239
of stuff like that where they're like it's like Gears.

1548
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:21,920
Active reload is just enough to keep you like engaged

1549
01:08:22,039 --> 01:08:24,079
when it can be just a lot of third person

1550
01:08:24,079 --> 01:08:25,640
shooting and cover shooting, et cetera.

1551
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: Would you compare it.

1552
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,520
Speaker 6: To Kingdom at all Kingdom two crowns, you know, like

1553
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,920
you're a king in that and you set up your

1554
01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:35,199
little thingies for way more attacks.

1555
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:38,399
Speaker 4: No, it's don PC two Kingdom.

1556
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:39,319
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know it.

1557
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,319
Speaker 4: Let me see if I'll send it to you.

1558
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:43,520
Speaker 6: But I think like that you're also like a king

1559
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:52,960
that's defending and but if you die.

1560
01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say, so that was side scrolling.

1561
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 4: I loved that game.

1562
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, check this game again. It's thirteen dollars.

1563
01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:58,119
Speaker 1: I think it's money well spent, even if it's not

1564
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:00,520
like your favorite game ever. And also it's been a

1565
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,239
part of a bunch of sales this summer. That's also

1566
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:05,199
why I came across it. Like as of this recording,

1567
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:06,039
I think it's part.

1568
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:06,199
Speaker 2: Of the.

1569
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:13,119
Speaker 1: Uh secret Sauce sale that.

1570
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 6: Is going on right now, so it'll be around this

1571
01:09:14,079 --> 01:09:16,199
so when this episode goes out, you'll have a couple

1572
01:09:16,239 --> 01:09:16,600
of days.

1573
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: So it's thirteen right now, but it might be it

1574
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,680
might be less. It's just telling me I already own it.

1575
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,800
Oh yeah, shit, Mary, there's a bundle with throwne Falling

1576
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,720
Kingdom two crowns, so apparently they're similar.

1577
01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 4: Well, well, well.

1578
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:32,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great, Like it's not new, it's not the

1579
01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:34,159
most exciting thing. It's not going to be talked about

1580
01:09:34,199 --> 01:09:35,439
in the Game of the Year, but it could be

1581
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,600
it maybe comes up in the best year that didn't

1582
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,319
come out this year for me. But outside of that,

1583
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,880
just like I think if anybody's looking for an affordable,

1584
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,840
super simple game that they then make very engagingly complex

1585
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,880
throughout the course of the game. On Steam deck, I

1586
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,560
think this is right up your alley.

1587
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,079
Speaker 5: I mean, just looking at the Steam page here, it's

1588
01:09:54,079 --> 01:09:56,119
it's reminding me of when I said Tarottach and it's like, oh,

1589
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:58,600
I love to look at this. This looks really fun. Like, Okay,

1590
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,479
I missed it when came out. I should check this out.

1591
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it a lot.

1592
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,359
Speaker 1: It's it's probably my playing game for the foreseeable future,

1593
01:10:06,399 --> 01:10:07,279
alongside Tara Tech.

1594
01:10:07,359 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 2: Legion.

1595
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,119
Speaker 1: Not as involved as Taro Tech, I will say, but again,

1596
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:13,520
by the you'll get to biomes, You're like, oh my god,

1597
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,800
it's like blimps and siege towers and you got to

1598
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,920
like use different troops and who do I upgrade? How

1599
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,439
do I spend my money? It's it's a it's a

1600
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:26,479
rad game, just extremely well made. Uh mythrights the publisher

1601
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,359
really quick. I just want to give a shit Grizzly Games.

1602
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:30,159
Speaker 2: They made a good game.

1603
01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: They've done some other stuff. They did Islanders in twenty nineteen.

1604
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,439
I remember playing that again. Just simple games done really well,

1605
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,119
and they expound upon the idea, initial idea, really cool.

1606
01:10:38,119 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 3: Ways, nice.

1607
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 2: Dan, you played Heave Ho two as well?

1608
01:10:46,039 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 3: Yes, a multiplayer with our multiplayer? Yeah?

1609
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:50,119
Speaker 1: Fuck you?

1610
01:10:52,359 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 3: Like cut out for a second? Whererose that?

1611
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,039
Speaker 4: I said, tell us more?

1612
01:10:57,239 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, like three seconds, my internet went down,

1613
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,199
and then I came back and Mike was laughing, And

1614
01:11:03,199 --> 01:11:04,520
now it seems like Mary's lying.

1615
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: She said tell us more.

1616
01:11:06,039 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: But she also told this really blue joke about someone

1617
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:09,960
you don't know.

1618
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: I gotta been quick.

1619
01:11:11,079 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, normallyvo it's very fun. It's if you

1620
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,000
played the first one. It is just the concept is

1621
01:11:19,159 --> 01:11:22,279
you're a little dude. You got hands and arms. Left

1622
01:11:22,399 --> 01:11:24,600
trigger grabs with your left hand, right trigger grabs with

1623
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,720
the right hand. It's a lot of swinging around and

1624
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,640
creating ropes with your friends and flinging each other, and

1625
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,640
it's a lot of just laughing and farting and there's

1626
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,279
a fart button, and just getting from point A to

1627
01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:36,920
point B for the most part, and then trying to

1628
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,680
figure out, like, how the fuck are we getting around

1629
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:39,079
these spikes?

1630
01:11:39,079 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 3: How are you okay?

1631
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,119
Speaker 5: This whole area is ice, So it's like it is

1632
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:44,319
not that different. I mean, to be fair, we only

1633
01:11:44,319 --> 01:11:46,319
played the first area, which is like the ice area.

1634
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,760
We did go forward and try like a later level,

1635
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,880
and it seems like they do introduce some crazy mechanics

1636
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,199
later on that we haven't gotten to yet. But I

1637
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:56,720
would say the biggest changes or upgrades we've seen from

1638
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,960
the first one was there is mechanic where it's like,

1639
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,520
let's say the three of us were place with Jake,

1640
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,119
and the three of us get to the end and

1641
01:12:03,239 --> 01:12:05,279
instead of like you know, some of these levels, it's like,

1642
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:07,600
how the fuck would Jake ever get over here? One

1643
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,279
of us can pilot a drone and like so we

1644
01:12:10,319 --> 01:12:12,079
can have like a little drone with our head on it,

1645
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:14,399
like go over and we can like direct him like okay,

1646
01:12:14,399 --> 01:12:16,520
grab onto the drone and it's like a fun way

1647
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,319
to get a straggler to the finish basically. But then

1648
01:12:20,359 --> 01:12:23,079
also this competitive multiplayer mode is fucking hilarious. We put

1649
01:12:23,079 --> 01:12:25,239
a quick look up on Giant Bomb, just a lot

1650
01:12:25,279 --> 01:12:27,640
of just you know, here's a survival mode, here's a

1651
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,800
race mode, here's a mode where you get lightsaber.

1652
01:12:30,359 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 6: Amount of people you can play this with, you know,

1653
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,119
we played with four online.

1654
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,079
Speaker 5: I bet you could have fue with two. I don't

1655
01:12:37,119 --> 01:12:38,520
even know if you can with one. I don't know

1656
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,000
what the fuck that looks like, but I.

1657
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 4: Can confirm you cannot play it with one.

1658
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,119
Speaker 3: Okay, that would be fucked up.

1659
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:49,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty sad you got Oh oh no,

1660
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:52,840
I was trying to fling my own lonely ass around

1661
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:53,239
and I.

1662
01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 3: Just let you get into a level I.

1663
01:12:56,399 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 4: Played like I started playing.

1664
01:12:58,079 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh so maybe technically you could wait are you

1665
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:01,399
just bad at it?

1666
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 3: Are you bad and have no friends?

1667
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:04,119
Speaker 5: Is that?

1668
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:07,119
Speaker 4: What? How do you throw your own ass?

1669
01:13:07,319 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: Well?

1670
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 5: Why would why would it let you go into the

1671
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:10,760
level if you can't do it?

1672
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 4: Because it's probably like get some friends, like you know,

1673
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:14,600
they can drop.

1674
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 6: I think it's fucked up that you played without me

1675
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,640
because I was dying alone on an island.

1676
01:13:24,399 --> 01:13:25,079
Speaker 4: So many friends.

1677
01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: We have to be on like a chameleon on Friday,

1678
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:27,680
and you couldn't do that.

1679
01:13:28,279 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 4: I'm booked and busy, bitch.

1680
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 5: Okay, well then takes both.

1681
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:39,159
Speaker 4: I'm conflicted. Watch Barbie friends see me.

1682
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:44,359
Speaker 7: But I yeah, oh yeah, because we've moved this recording

1683
01:13:44,399 --> 01:13:50,199
specifically for your schedule, sex, I said, we have to.

1684
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,319
Speaker 4: We have to record at ten in the morning.

1685
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, I appreciate it.

1686
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 4: Shut the fuck up. You should be on my side.

1687
01:13:58,960 --> 01:13:59,920
You are not an ally.

1688
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they only served.

1689
01:14:07,319 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 4: Where are we fighting? No Ah, you are not.

1690
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,359
Speaker 1: The testimon everyday live.

1691
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,079
Speaker 4: That means leaving the room women can talk not about you.

1692
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,520
Speaker 2: Mary. You played Scale the Depths.

1693
01:14:28,199 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm probably gonna burn through several smaller indie games

1694
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:33,920
that I played that came out.

1695
01:14:34,039 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 4: These are all on sale.

1696
01:14:37,399 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: Singing that's right, the music.

1697
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:43,039
Speaker 4: Mary's Bargain, bin Hole, cozy.

1698
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: Game, and indie stuff.

1699
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:49,079
Speaker 1: I had so many friends except for when they deal with.

1700
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,079
Speaker 4: Your trauma for a deal.

1701
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 6: This is Scale the Depths is a fishing game that

1702
01:14:57,039 --> 01:15:00,239
uh creatures will come up to your boat and say

1703
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:00,960
I'm hungry.

1704
01:15:01,319 --> 01:15:06,039
Speaker 4: You need to fish, and it's a boat.

1705
01:15:06,079 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 6: You treat the fish and then you feed the mythical creature.

1706
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,319
Some of them are mythical, some of them are real,

1707
01:15:12,399 --> 01:15:14,680
like eagles, and then they give you money and that

1708
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,399
upgrades your fishing equipment.

1709
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 4: The fishing in this game.

1710
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:21,399
Speaker 6: Is hard to describe, but it's very simple. It's a

1711
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,520
string that has a You have a certain amount of

1712
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,840
string with a lore on it that has a certain

1713
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,000
amount of strength, and all you have to do is

1714
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,279
dink the fish. If you dink the fish, you've injured it.

1715
01:15:32,319 --> 01:15:34,079
If you dink it again, you'll probably kill it.

1716
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 4: The lower you go into the water, the stronger the

1717
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,159
fish you will find, meaning you'll need to dink it

1718
01:15:40,199 --> 01:15:44,359
a lot. When you run out of line, you immediately.

1719
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 6: Go back up to your boat boat and you have

1720
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,399
to cast again and bring your line back down there.

1721
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,680
That's why the upgrades are really important, because at the beginning,

1722
01:15:51,279 --> 01:15:53,720
your line isn't long enough for you to attack.

1723
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 4: Any creatures in the depths, which are worth the.

1724
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 6: Most points and kind of the most fun to kill,

1725
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,560
so you you want to up grade your line almost immediately,

1726
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,520
plus your lure, you can upgrade your knife because the

1727
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,039
second half of the game is once you've filled your

1728
01:16:07,039 --> 01:16:10,039
bucket with fish, you have to descale them.

1729
01:16:10,079 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 4: You have to worm them.

1730
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 6: Sometimes it kind of grows some of them barnacles, and

1731
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,560
you have to smack the barnacles off, and you get

1732
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,079
scores for how good you are at cleaning up your

1733
01:16:20,079 --> 01:16:22,800
fish and chopping them up. A perfect score gives you

1734
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,359
a star on your fish that's worth more points, and

1735
01:16:25,399 --> 01:16:27,960
then you feed it to the creatures. Thus that is

1736
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,960
the game loop. I think for people who like fishing

1737
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,800
games and like, I'm gonna call this kind of mindless

1738
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,359
gaming where you turn off your brain and you're just like,

1739
01:16:39,399 --> 01:16:44,119
I'm a fisherman and I love feeding eagles, and you

1740
01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:47,680
just really slow your brain down. This will cure what

1741
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,439
ails you. It is for people who are looking for

1742
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,960
a challenge or they're looking for strategy, this will bore

1743
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:57,119
you two tears. This is a chill game about feeding

1744
01:16:57,159 --> 01:17:00,880
fish to animals and making them happy. And I think

1745
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,439
role playing as a fisherman. That's that's kind of the scale.

1746
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,000
There's some fun things down there. Sometimes you find messages

1747
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,119
in a bottle with some lore.

1748
01:17:09,239 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 4: I didn't read it.

1749
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 6: Sometimes you find treasure boxes with stickers and stuff that

1750
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,720
you get to put on your boat. I think it's fun,

1751
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:23,800
but it's this is a simple game done well that

1752
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,359
allows you to feel like you can enjoy ben a

1753
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,800
fishermen in the sea. And I think it's also uh

1754
01:17:31,039 --> 01:17:34,199
pretty cheap right now. This is an under ten dollars game.

1755
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 3: Are you saying and lure are the same.

1756
01:17:37,319 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 4: Damn it? Uh your lore and then there are animals

1757
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,720
from low damn it.

1758
01:17:48,199 --> 01:17:51,279
Speaker 2: Lure, Laura Lure.

1759
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,279
Speaker 6: I will burn through the other two if that's cool,

1760
01:17:54,359 --> 01:17:55,560
because these are these.

1761
01:17:55,439 --> 01:18:00,199
Speaker 2: Are short go cat. Oh that's your ty.

1762
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:05,199
Speaker 4: No, it's not. You can't read bitch again. Don't you

1763
01:18:05,239 --> 01:18:10,800
start with me? Thank you, Dan, You're.

1764
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 2: An ally, all right? What's cat company?

1765
01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 6: Cat mail is a cozy cat post office. You are

1766
01:18:20,039 --> 01:18:22,920
yourself a cat, although it's first persons, you never really

1767
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,640
see yourself as a cat. So I don't know why

1768
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,079
they all your No, there's no whiskers.

1769
01:18:28,119 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 4: It's through your eyes and when you know, it's in color.

1770
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,159
Speaker 6: Because all of the creatures in this game are cats,

1771
01:18:37,239 --> 01:18:40,960
so all of your uh, all the patrons that people

1772
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,159
come in to either collect their mail or drop off

1773
01:18:43,159 --> 01:18:44,239
their mail, they're all cats.

1774
01:18:44,279 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 4: And they all have real fun names like.

1775
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 6: Uh, like whiskers mixed snuggle muffins or like you know,

1776
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,119
rumpel tail feather that would make sense. But they have

1777
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:59,479
ones that are like free mixed scratch ems and they're

1778
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,960
really cute and they'll always say they'll come to your office.

1779
01:19:03,079 --> 01:19:05,000
The post office. You get a shit ton of mail.

1780
01:19:05,039 --> 01:19:06,880
You have to organize it. It's your job to organize

1781
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,560
your own mail and put it in the right spots.

1782
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,119
Mail can come in and mail can come out. It'll

1783
01:19:13,119 --> 01:19:15,359
make you go a little crazy. I was thinking of

1784
01:19:15,399 --> 01:19:18,039
that episode It's always Sonny in Philadelphia, or it.

1785
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,079
Speaker 4: Was like, I keep getting this mail from Pepe Sylvia.

1786
01:19:20,199 --> 01:19:22,119
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know where Pepe Silvia is.

1787
01:19:22,119 --> 01:19:23,880
I kept getting mail and I was like, I don't

1788
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,479
know where this goes. I don't know where it's supposed

1789
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,560
to be. But the important thing, and the reason I

1790
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,000
think they can call this a cozy game is that

1791
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,199
there's no time limit, so you don't need to be

1792
01:19:31,239 --> 01:19:33,920
stressed when someone goes, I'm here to pick up a

1793
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:40,399
piece of mail from uh Tatum Kristofski and it's heavy.

1794
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 4: And so you go back into all of your packages

1795
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,800
and you look for mail that says Tatum k and

1796
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,760
it needs to have the heavy symbol on it. And

1797
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,880
if you do that, you're returning, you're giving that person

1798
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:50,159
the mail.

1799
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:53,399
Speaker 6: Then they'll drop off mail that has There's all these

1800
01:19:53,399 --> 01:19:55,720
different like little toys that you get to play with.

1801
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 4: One is a scanner. You scan it.

1802
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,119
Speaker 6: It lets you know if the mail is heavy that

1803
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:02,479
needs a heavy sticker, or if it's fragile, which means

1804
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,159
it needs a fridge elaysticker. Some you open up new

1805
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:08,039
areas of your mail. I opened up one that's it's

1806
01:20:08,079 --> 01:20:10,640
a fridge, and so they'll be like, hey, this contains

1807
01:20:11,079 --> 01:20:13,880
stuff that goes bad that needs to go in the fridge.

1808
01:20:14,119 --> 01:20:15,800
So all these different stickers, you need to weigh it,

1809
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,239
you need to put the right amount of postage on it,

1810
01:20:17,239 --> 01:20:18,359
and then you need to put the thing on it

1811
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,439
of the island that it goes to.

1812
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 4: It gets complicated. I actually was not super relaxed.

1813
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 6: Playing this because I was going through all this mail

1814
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,359
because I was trying to find mail of some fucking cat.

1815
01:20:30,399 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 4: I couldn't figure it out. And I stumbled across the

1816
01:20:33,079 --> 01:20:34,279
package that I had had.

1817
01:20:34,079 --> 01:20:36,239
Speaker 6: For three days that was meant to go in the fridge,

1818
01:20:36,279 --> 01:20:38,079
and it was not in the fridge, y'all. And so

1819
01:20:38,119 --> 01:20:40,399
I put it in the fridge, but that fish had

1820
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:41,159
gone bad.

1821
01:20:42,319 --> 01:20:45,079
Speaker 4: That did not feel good. This game is for organizers.

1822
01:20:45,159 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 6: Is for people who like going sorting through mail and

1823
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,720
junk and like role playing.

1824
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 4: As if you have a job at night.

1825
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 6: A captain of a ship comes to collect the mail

1826
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,840
that's meant to go to different islands, and that's a

1827
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,760
Tetris game, and that's my faceavorite part. There's a very

1828
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,560
finite amount of space on this boat. You have to

1829
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,920
get as many packages on it as you humanly can.

1830
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:08,119
I'm and to do it perfectly. You need to tetrist

1831
01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:11,119
the packages in a very particular.

1832
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 4: Way so that you can minmax the space. That feels

1833
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,560
fucking good, and I like that.

1834
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 6: I don't know if I love being inundated with packages

1835
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,079
that literally don't have a home. I'm running out of space.

1836
01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:22,079
My post office is out of this mind. People need

1837
01:21:22,119 --> 01:21:23,359
to stop shipping things.

1838
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,399
Speaker 5: I'm looking at this right now, and I think next

1839
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,279
time my dad comes here, I do want to make

1840
01:21:28,319 --> 01:21:30,119
him play this as someone who worked at the post

1841
01:21:30,119 --> 01:21:32,279
office and half of his day every day was organizing

1842
01:21:32,319 --> 01:21:34,720
a mail, and I guarantee his reaction plan is going

1843
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,239
to be like, this isn't what it's like at all.

1844
01:21:38,279 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 3: At Yeah, there's not any cats, there's.

1845
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:42,560
Speaker 2: There's no boat.

1846
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:46,039
Speaker 4: It's fun. I actually played this for hours and got

1847
01:21:46,079 --> 01:21:48,079
really into it. Oh it's also multiplayer.

1848
01:21:48,119 --> 01:21:50,239
Speaker 6: I didn't play it as multiplayer, but if I played

1849
01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:52,279
it again, what I'd really like is for you guys

1850
01:21:52,359 --> 01:21:54,600
to also be cats in cat mail co and for

1851
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:55,560
us to play it together.

1852
01:21:56,239 --> 01:21:57,560
Speaker 2: Chrek if you're actually are a cat.

1853
01:21:58,119 --> 01:21:59,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if I have.

1854
01:21:59,079 --> 01:22:00,239
Speaker 3: Friends, that's true. Yeah.

1855
01:22:00,319 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like a thought experiment about this somewhere that

1856
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:09,279
I it's not like bullshit to me, Mary, what tilted golf?

1857
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,039
Speaker 6: Tilted Off is the last one at Tilted Golf is

1858
01:22:13,279 --> 01:22:18,920
a also smaller game that I suspect is Oh my.

1859
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,600
Speaker 3: God, it's the Breath of the Wild mini game.

1860
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, it is the Breath of the Wild mini game.

1861
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:23,560
It's used.

1862
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,039
Speaker 6: You have to play this on a Steam deck. This

1863
01:22:26,199 --> 01:22:28,880
is a I would not recommend playing this on anything else.

1864
01:22:29,239 --> 01:22:33,399
It is a gyroscopic where you don't hit the ball,

1865
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,239
you tilt your yes, sorry, mobile hand thank you my god,

1866
01:22:38,279 --> 01:22:42,359
mobile device handheld device where you use the gyroscopic to

1867
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,640
move the ball into the hole. It is time based,

1868
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:51,079
which I like because instinctively you'll try and get the.

1869
01:22:51,039 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 4: Ball in the hole really fast.

1870
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 6: And they get pretty complicated, but some of the levels

1871
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,880
don't have edges, so it don't the ball will fall

1872
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,359
off the edge of the world if you're if you're

1873
01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:04,920
not careful. It's it's very simple. This is not a

1874
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,359
complicated game. This is a This is a game that

1875
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:13,039
makes you feel fun and competitive and makes you want

1876
01:23:13,079 --> 01:23:15,479
to try and get the lowest possible times to get

1877
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:16,319
ball in the hole.

1878
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:17,199
Speaker 4: Ball in the hole.

1879
01:23:17,199 --> 01:23:20,199
Speaker 6: This game should be called ball in the hole, and

1880
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,000
you just tilt, tilt the device to get it there.

1881
01:23:23,039 --> 01:23:23,359
Speaker 4: That's it.

1882
01:23:23,359 --> 01:23:27,039
Speaker 6: It's a very simple pitch. This game is probably not

1883
01:23:27,119 --> 01:23:29,159
a lot of money. It's it's four ninety Oh wow.

1884
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,760
Is a simple game that if you like the gyroscopic golf,

1885
01:23:36,279 --> 01:23:38,439
this will burn two hours of your life.

1886
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:39,159
Speaker 4: No problem.

1887
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, there's DLC coming out soon. Yeah, all right, tilted.

1888
01:23:47,239 --> 01:23:53,119
Speaker 1: That's the end of Mary's Indy Happy Hour. Dan, you

1889
01:23:53,279 --> 01:23:55,479
mentioned retro achievements. You asked if we knew what that was.

1890
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,199
Speaker 5: We said no, So, okay, this is I mean, you know,

1891
01:23:58,239 --> 01:23:59,920
I play a lot of old games all the time,

1892
01:24:00,119 --> 01:24:02,920
and uh, you know, you run out of I like

1893
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,239
playing old games a lot.

1894
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:12,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, you are spicy today, Mike, he's drunk. Yeah, you

1895
01:24:12,079 --> 01:24:13,720
said it so authentically.

1896
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: Good for you tell us about these old games.

1897
01:24:19,039 --> 01:24:22,079
Speaker 5: So you know, I've played these old games a million times,

1898
01:24:22,119 --> 01:24:24,439
even just the normal way. And then I've always known

1899
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,560
of the existence of retro achievements, which is exactly what

1900
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,039
it sounds like. It is a thing that you can

1901
01:24:29,039 --> 01:24:31,319
attach your emulators, retro arts, whatever you used to play

1902
01:24:31,319 --> 01:24:34,079
your old games, and it adds like there's a huge

1903
01:24:34,199 --> 01:24:36,159
robust community that adds.

1904
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,199
Speaker 3: Like all these fucking old games.

1905
01:24:37,239 --> 01:24:39,359
Speaker 5: Obscure old games with a whole you know, kind of

1906
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,760
a points system, and you have an overall point like

1907
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,600
on the website in your account. You have like it's

1908
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,399
just like an Xbox Gamer score basically, And it's just

1909
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,279
really fun for me because like this is all part

1910
01:24:48,319 --> 01:24:49,640
of my Like I've just been going nuts with the

1911
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,359
Steam Machine for like a month now, and it's just

1912
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,760
my all purpose retro box as well as new stuff,

1913
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,039
but all the retro stuff. Like I'm now playing old

1914
01:24:58,079 --> 01:25:00,399
games again like I always do, but I'm playing it

1915
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,399
in ways that I haven't played them before. And it's

1916
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,439
really like giving new life to a lot of old

1917
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,520
games for me. Like, for instance, puzzle Fighter, that is

1918
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,920
a game that Bonk and I played a billion time.

1919
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,880
I've played hundreds of hours a puzzle Fighter. Did not

1920
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,399
know that the PlayStation version had these like kind of

1921
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,600
like these puzzle stars that you could earn. Each character

1922
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,640
has like six different challenges you can do to unlock

1923
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,199
stuff in the PlayStation version, and I learned that by

1924
01:25:23,359 --> 01:25:25,279
opening up this game that I love and then looking

1925
01:25:25,319 --> 01:25:27,039
at the achievements and being like, oh shit, I didn't

1926
01:25:27,039 --> 01:25:28,720
know that was the thing. And so it's like it's

1927
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,119
giving me these different ways to like, Okay, beat a level,

1928
01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:33,199
beat an opponent without ever rotating a block. It's like, oh,

1929
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:35,079
that's fun. Like these games that I know all the

1930
01:25:35,119 --> 01:25:37,640
mechanics very deeply, and it's Okay, here's a fun new

1931
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,319
way to play it. Mario three. You know, it's like

1932
01:25:40,359 --> 01:25:42,800
I beat World one one without ever letting go of

1933
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,359
the right button on the dpads.

1934
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:45,079
Speaker 3: That's cool.

1935
01:25:45,159 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 5: Okay, I've beat this level five hundred times. I've never

1936
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:48,279
done it that way.

1937
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 3: Mario one.

1938
01:25:49,039 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 5: Do a passpist run of World one where you don't

1939
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,960
hurt any goombas and you don't get a fireflower.

1940
01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 3: You know. It's like that type of thing.

1941
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,279
Speaker 4: Well makes these the communities? Can it just like another nerd?

1942
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1943
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's the whole retro community is insane,

1944
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,840
like they are to go so deep on all this stuff,

1945
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,399
and I love tinkering with all these devices and stuff,

1946
01:26:05,399 --> 01:26:07,640
and like the Steam Machine is like I'm just spending

1947
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,399
so much time trying to make it like my ultimate

1948
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,960
retrobox that I am like, this is the first time.

1949
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,319
I'm like, I'm actually going to do retro achievements. I've

1950
01:26:14,319 --> 01:26:15,720
really been like every time before you go to bed,

1951
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,279
it's like I'll try to get a couple. I'll open up,

1952
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,079
you know, to pick an old game. I like Twist

1953
01:26:19,119 --> 01:26:20,960
the Metal two, and it's like, Okay, here's the thing.

1954
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:22,159
Here's a fun way I can try to beat the

1955
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:24,439
Los Angeles level or something and get a quick retro achievement.

1956
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,600
So it's breathing a lot of new life into a

1957
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,000
thing I already was doing and loving. It's just making

1958
01:26:30,039 --> 01:26:30,760
it feel fresh.

1959
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,079
Speaker 4: It's great now you have a goal.

1960
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:33,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1961
01:26:33,159 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like one that like there's never gonna

1962
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,319
be an end to this. There's a million retro games.

1963
01:26:37,319 --> 01:26:39,920
I love playing old favorites, I love trying new ones,

1964
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,279
and now there's like a fun extra layer to it.

1965
01:26:42,359 --> 01:26:45,279
Speaker 1: You know that sounds rad I looking back at the

1966
01:26:45,319 --> 01:26:47,960
three six here, I was initially resistant to achievements. I

1967
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,359
was like, oh, I see what they're doing, and then

1968
01:26:49,399 --> 01:26:51,239
I was like, I'm thinking way too much about this

1969
01:26:51,319 --> 01:26:54,159
and less about just enjoying the game. However, as time

1970
01:26:54,199 --> 01:26:57,000
went on between trophies, and achievements. I do appreciate how

1971
01:26:57,039 --> 01:27:00,000
you kind of have a journal of what you've done

1972
01:27:00,199 --> 01:27:02,680
in a game throughout its run time, which is which

1973
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:04,640
is nice because and it's also just that second layer

1974
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,640
of like, all right, I have one hundred percent of

1975
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,760
this according to like yes, the game, but there the

1976
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,720
publisher or the developer, there's still something else I could

1977
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,520
be doing that I like to say, I really completed this.

1978
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 5: And that's how I've done like PlayStation trophies stuff for

1979
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,880
the last few years. Is like Astrobot. I wait for

1980
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,319
a game that I really fucking love and I'm not

1981
01:27:23,359 --> 01:27:25,439
done playing it yet, and it's like I beat every level,

1982
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,399
I've done everything I can do, like you said, Mike,

1983
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,479
But then it's like, oh, but then there's this thing

1984
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,159
and this thing, these fun little bonuses I can get.

1985
01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:32,680
So it's just a way of extending the life of

1986
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:33,479
games you already love.

1987
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,279
Speaker 6: So are you going to give a challenge to someone else,

1988
01:27:36,399 --> 01:27:37,880
considering you know these games really well?

1989
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 4: Can you upload your own? And I'm like, can you

1990
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:40,640
do it this way?

1991
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,560
Speaker 5: Tyson, It's not really like that. It's like they're they're

1992
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,840
baked in. So if it's like retrotreatments, dot Org. And

1993
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,920
it's like, I don't know who makes the sets. Like,

1994
01:27:48,119 --> 01:27:51,119
I'm sure if I wanted to, I could like to

1995
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:51,800
be fun for you.

1996
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,600
Speaker 4: To add one one thing you think is challenging for you.

1997
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 5: But most games already happen, Like most games already have

1998
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,479
a full set, So it's like and it's retro, so

1999
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:00,960
it's not like they're a bunch of new retro games

2000
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,840
coming out. So there's the occasional like really deep cut

2001
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,359
game like the game I just beat for Blake Club

2002
01:28:05,399 --> 01:28:06,239
that doesn't have a set.

2003
01:28:06,359 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, why.

2004
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 2: Am I blanking on the fighting game we play on

2005
01:28:11,039 --> 01:28:12,239
your cabinet? Oh?

2006
01:28:12,319 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 3: The out Foxies, I bet you anything Foxies have. Oh

2007
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:15,479
I bet it doesn't.

2008
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,079
Speaker 1: The out Foxes kill someone, kill someone with the cannon,

2009
01:28:18,239 --> 01:28:20,159
which you did to me when I was playing with you.

2010
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:22,039
Speaker 5: Now I'm gonna have to get some retrochiements. Yeah, there

2011
01:28:22,039 --> 01:28:24,560
are twenty one retro achievements worth two hundred and fifty points.

2012
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:25,520
They do have them.

2013
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,159
Speaker 2: Oh, is there one about the cannon that you could

2014
01:28:27,159 --> 01:28:27,800
see at a glance.

2015
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:28,199
Speaker 3: There's one.

2016
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,319
Speaker 5: There's one called He's Got a Gun and it's clear

2017
01:28:31,399 --> 01:28:32,479
as dweb only.

2018
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a dwee Maine. I love it.

2019
01:28:37,319 --> 01:28:40,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, kill Betty ninety seconds, get a time out, throw

2020
01:28:40,399 --> 01:28:43,239
Dweeb off the plane is one I've.

2021
01:28:43,079 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 1: Been I've been meaning to add quote unquote Dweeb Maine

2022
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,000
to my Instagram bark.

2023
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 6: Our Christmas festivities are sorted. It looks like we're gonna

2024
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:51,239
have to get.

2025
01:28:51,079 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 4: Through all of these during our game deliberations.

2026
01:28:55,279 --> 01:28:57,239
Speaker 5: It's so twenty two. Like I'm looking at recent players

2027
01:28:57,239 --> 01:28:59,439
of the out Foxies. It's like, oh yeah, Evil Murray

2028
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,720
two hours ago got a Bernard White versus Deueeb achievement.

2029
01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:05,239
Speaker 2: Like I'm starting to like this guy.

2030
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very cool. It's it's very for me. It

2031
01:29:09,319 --> 01:29:11,359
really works for me. And then another quick thing just

2032
01:29:11,399 --> 01:29:13,520
with the Steam Machine is Clone Hero. Are you familiar

2033
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,199
with that? It is just another community thing where it's

2034
01:29:17,239 --> 01:29:19,640
like it's a way to play Guitar Hero on modern stuff,

2035
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:20,600
like a modern computer.

2036
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 3: So basically I.

2037
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,119
Speaker 6: Saw you posting about this on Instagram because you're playing

2038
01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:26,239
Guitar Hero again, and I was like, why are are

2039
01:29:26,359 --> 01:29:27,159
you back there?

2040
01:29:27,399 --> 01:29:30,319
Speaker 3: Well, because it's you know, they got the PDP riff.

2041
01:29:31,119 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's like everyone has very fun memories

2042
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:34,600
of that, and it just kind of went away for

2043
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,800
the most part, and so now with the Steam Machine,

2044
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,760
just kind of like tinkering around with all this stuff

2045
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:40,319
that you can do with it. It's like, all right,

2046
01:29:40,319 --> 01:29:42,399
I do so much retro stuff, and like Guitar Hero

2047
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,279
is one that you don't hear about as much because

2048
01:29:44,319 --> 01:29:47,239
it's like not as successful you need a guitar, but

2049
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,279
the riff Master enough people bought that and people love

2050
01:29:50,319 --> 01:29:53,840
those games. So there's a thriving community of people charting song.

2051
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,920
So it's like you can get a program where you

2052
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,840
type in like, oh, here's every led Zeppelin song and

2053
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,399
stuff that was never in and they have the community

2054
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:02,239
has charted them.

2055
01:30:02,319 --> 01:30:03,279
Speaker 3: But you can also down.

2056
01:30:03,319 --> 01:30:07,159
Speaker 6: All under underground because they don't have the rights to

2057
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:07,760
these songs.

2058
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,319
Speaker 4: I assume I wear I own.

2059
01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 2: The album, so I'm probably goody with Mick Jagger.

2060
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:17,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, Robert Plant's been churning these and clone Hero yeah,

2061
01:30:17,119 --> 01:30:17,600
but yeah.

2062
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,159
Speaker 6: I do with so much music licensing bullshit. I like

2063
01:30:21,159 --> 01:30:22,439
like this and I'm like, how do they do it?

2064
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 5: And listen just absolutely underground. Yeah, but it's thriving. Like

2065
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,479
there's these like zip files and stuff where it's like

2066
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,119
here's all of the actual charts and everything. From every

2067
01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:34,359
Guitar Hero and every rock band, and so you can

2068
01:30:34,359 --> 01:30:36,920
get all those on one I load up Clone Hero

2069
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,199
and here's the set list with hundreds and hundred and

2070
01:30:39,279 --> 01:30:41,520
hundreds of songs of the official ones from Guitar Hero.

2071
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,439
And then there's like, oh, the entire Nirvana discography over

2072
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,960
here that I've gotten people have charted out meticulously and

2073
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,039
done different you know, difficulty levels and stuff like that.

2074
01:30:50,399 --> 01:30:52,000
So it just I mean, my brother in law has

2075
01:30:52,039 --> 01:30:54,560
been thank you scientists like that is they have like

2076
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:56,680
tons of tracks on there. So it's just insane that,

2077
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,399
like that wrestling promo I was playing on Instagram, there's

2078
01:30:59,399 --> 01:31:01,720
like gimmick ones like that. There's video game music Caslvania

2079
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:02,439
tracks you can play.

2080
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:06,039
Speaker 6: You know, you get a score. Yeah, can you compare

2081
01:31:06,039 --> 01:31:07,159
your score to your friends?

2082
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,079
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think you can.

2083
01:31:10,399 --> 01:31:14,159
Speaker 5: I think there is a leaderboard aspect. Yeah, I've just

2084
01:31:14,159 --> 01:31:15,079
been kind of tinkering around.

2085
01:31:15,119 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm a broken record with this.

2086
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,520
Speaker 6: But usually if I'm like playing a game where there's

2087
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,479
a score, I want to be like, well, did I

2088
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:22,920
beattherboard stuff?

2089
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Miss pac Man all the time.

2090
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,079
Speaker 4: I think about it all the time.

2091
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:29,359
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any.

2092
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:30,239
Speaker 4: About hitting him.

2093
01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 3: There's no record there.

2094
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:34,199
Speaker 4: I took a photo of it.

2095
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 3: I lost the time.

2096
01:31:38,039 --> 01:31:40,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks like there's some semblance of leader words here. Yeah,

2097
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:41,960
leader boards, Yeah, yep.

2098
01:31:42,279 --> 01:31:43,039
Speaker 4: I think that's neat.

2099
01:31:43,119 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 6: I think that makes it really fun to be able

2100
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:48,000
to play like a childhood beloved song or just like

2101
01:31:48,039 --> 01:31:51,359
a song that you love so much now and try

2102
01:31:51,399 --> 01:31:53,239
and master it and then compare your score to others.

2103
01:31:53,239 --> 01:31:55,079
Speaker 5: That's great, And it's just one more step towards what

2104
01:31:55,079 --> 01:31:56,680
I'm going with with the Steam machine, where it's like

2105
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,760
this is the ultimate box one HDMI in with every

2106
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:01,960
old old game I've ever wanted to play, and way

2107
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,680
more all new games you know, and then also like

2108
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:07,239
Guitar Hero and stuff like Weird. So if you can

2109
01:32:07,239 --> 01:32:09,520
do with perival t I'm learning like Linux shit and stuff.

2110
01:32:10,079 --> 01:32:13,079
Thanks for this. It's it's a really fucking cool machine.

2111
01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 2: Cool both sound like cool. Community. Yeah, what's the word,

2112
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,560
I'm looking for community fuel projects?

2113
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:21,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

2114
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:22,279
Speaker 2: Last thing.

2115
01:32:22,319 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: I'll say I did play David Divers DLC a bit.

2116
01:32:25,239 --> 01:32:27,439
I've not played a ton to go fully into it.

2117
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,640
I do appreciate Mary, I will say they do. The

2118
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,000
wording is confusing you do not need to finish the

2119
01:32:33,039 --> 01:32:35,960
first game before you play a DLC what I thought

2120
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,399
he did, unless they changed it since you talked about it,

2121
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:42,680
you do not. It just heavily recommends, like maybe there's

2122
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,279
a pop up that sounded like you said you had to,

2123
01:32:44,319 --> 01:32:46,479
but I played it without finishing the bass game.

2124
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 6: Oh interesting, I wonder if they changed it, because when

2125
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,159
I looked it up, it said, yes, you need to

2126
01:32:51,239 --> 01:32:51,920
roll credits.

2127
01:32:52,119 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 2: Oh you need credits. I do like that. Like the

2128
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,800
Stardew Valley elements, it's not just that's great.

2129
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,079
Speaker 1: From education to location like die to the sushi to

2130
01:33:01,119 --> 01:33:03,399
the gun thing, you're actually they've got the glue of

2131
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,279
like trying to impress the different towns people.

2132
01:33:06,319 --> 01:33:07,399
Speaker 2: I'll last Stardu Valley.

2133
01:33:08,359 --> 01:33:10,079
Speaker 1: I've only played like two hours of it or three

2134
01:33:10,119 --> 01:33:11,439
hours of I don't know how long it played.

2135
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:12,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play way more.

2136
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:13,600
Speaker 1: I'll talk about it more in the next one because

2137
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,520
I do intend to keep playing this as well. Outside

2138
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:18,760
of Tarotech, Legion Throne Fall, this is really good. I'm

2139
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:20,600
kind of just going between these three for steam Deck,

2140
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:21,600
which has been really fun.

2141
01:33:22,359 --> 01:33:23,199
Speaker 4: Interesting.

2142
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,039
Speaker 6: That's I'm glad you're playing it. I'm very confused by this.

2143
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,600
I feel like when you do a quick search, everybody

2144
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,239
says you have to play the game main game.

2145
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,399
Speaker 2: Unless I rolled credits without knowing about it or without

2146
01:33:38,399 --> 01:33:39,039
remembering that.

2147
01:33:39,039 --> 01:33:42,279
Speaker 4: I did, you don't know if you finish the main game.

2148
01:33:42,279 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 1: I played a lot of the main game. I didn't

2149
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,279
think I did. Maybe it's just because I thought there

2150
01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:48,439
was more to do, but it's I don't know. I

2151
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:49,000
let mean.

2152
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:50,199
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wrong. That's great.

2153
01:33:50,319 --> 01:33:54,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, either way, it's freaking great because I I was

2154
01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:55,920
thinking about it, and I didn't love the end of

2155
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,199
Day of the Diver and so being able to do.

2156
01:33:58,239 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 1: This negative memories about my later hours in that game.

2157
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:02,159
So maybe I did play more than I thought. But

2158
01:34:03,119 --> 01:34:05,880
either if you if you can play the Jungle DLC

2159
01:34:06,039 --> 01:34:06,680
right now, go play.

2160
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:08,279
Speaker 2: It's it's rad added.

2161
01:34:08,079 --> 01:34:11,359
Speaker 6: That if I spend eight hours finishing Day of the

2162
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:11,960
Diver and I.

2163
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,560
Speaker 4: Didn't have to, that pisses me off.

2164
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,239
Speaker 1: I remember seeing the way they were. I was like,

2165
01:34:16,359 --> 01:34:18,600
I don't think Mary needed to do that, but it's possible.

2166
01:34:19,119 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 5: Oh Mary, you do need to pay for it twice,

2167
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,359
don't I hope you like that's worse.

2168
01:34:23,079 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 4: Than kishing it.

2169
01:34:24,279 --> 01:34:27,039
Speaker 6: Spending eight hours playing a game that I don't want

2170
01:34:27,039 --> 01:34:29,399
to finish to get to DLC.

2171
01:34:30,079 --> 01:34:32,560
Speaker 1: Now because the search results are in consistent. I need

2172
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,359
people listeners to if you've beaten the game, go check

2173
01:34:35,399 --> 01:34:36,439
it out, or if you haven't been the game, go

2174
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:37,880
see if you could play it, because that now I

2175
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,920
want to know if Mary did quote unquote, I'll.

2176
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:42,399
Speaker 4: Be so, I'll be frustrated.

2177
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,279
Speaker 6: I did not love the end of that game, and

2178
01:34:44,319 --> 01:34:47,960
I and I was like ready to move the fuck on,

2179
01:34:48,239 --> 01:34:50,640
but I I do think the DLC is fun and

2180
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,640
worth playing, And that was my main feedback was, I

2181
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,720
think the DLC is great, but it's not worth beating

2182
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,800
the game over Like that's generally how I felt.

2183
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,239
Speaker 4: So damn it, I'll play.

2184
01:35:02,279 --> 01:35:04,359
Speaker 1: I'll talk more about that next episode because I haven't

2185
01:35:04,399 --> 01:35:07,039
played enough to get a firm grasp of everything.

2186
01:35:07,039 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 2: But that's the nature of that game.

2187
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,560
Speaker 1: You start getting crazier and crazier with the activities, which.

2188
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:16,319
Speaker 6: Ye that is shaking those trees, getting the coconuts, getting

2189
01:35:16,319 --> 01:35:18,520
the little dry land stuff.

2190
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, reminds me of the action RPG aspect of Call

2191
01:35:27,079 --> 01:35:29,960
to the Lamb, not mechanics. Fact that you're like delving

2192
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:34,960
into this maze of pathways et cetera.

2193
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:41,199
Speaker 4: Believable. If that's the case, this counts as my blight club.

2194
01:35:43,079 --> 01:35:44,560
Speaker 2: All right, you guys want to talk about emails?

2195
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, okay.

2196
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:49,119
Speaker 1: As always, you can run into Firescape cast at gmail

2197
01:35:49,159 --> 01:35:52,880
dot com. Get those coffers overflowing, get our inbox full

2198
01:35:53,079 --> 01:35:54,000
of questions.

2199
01:35:54,039 --> 01:35:55,079
Speaker 2: We got a few here today.

2200
01:35:55,119 --> 01:35:59,039
Speaker 1: We're gonna read one from Melbourne, one from Coffers enough,

2201
01:35:59,119 --> 01:36:02,600
I know one from but yeah, get some questions in

2202
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,800
or comments, corrections, concerns.

2203
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,119
Speaker 2: They're all welcome. Mary, do you want to read this

2204
01:36:08,199 --> 01:36:10,359
first one from Wassi? Sure?

2205
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:14,359
Speaker 6: Hey, Escapees Love the Pod have been a Day one listener.

2206
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,479
Last pod, Mary was talking about Dave the Diver and

2207
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,840
we talked about this time too, and it got me thinking,

2208
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,039
every time I play a new game, which is generally

2209
01:36:21,039 --> 01:36:23,359
on release, I'm min max and play the shit out

2210
01:36:23,359 --> 01:36:25,199
of it trying to get the platinum, and then by

2211
01:36:25,239 --> 01:36:27,359
the time a DLC is released, I've already moved on

2212
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,439
and I've played other games, and I've never gone back

2213
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,239
to the old game, no matter how much I loved it,

2214
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,680
I always worry that I'm going to forget the controls

2215
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:36,359
and the story and pretty much everything from the game.

2216
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 4: So probably stuck myself out.

2217
01:36:38,119 --> 01:36:41,199
Speaker 6: I probably play one tenth of the amount of games

2218
01:36:41,199 --> 01:36:44,560
that you guys do. My question is, how do you

2219
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,000
re engage with an old game You're not feeling totally

2220
01:36:47,039 --> 01:36:49,439
lost after you go back to it after some time?

2221
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,079
Speaker 4: Am I overthinking it? Cheers?

2222
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:56,039
Speaker 6: Wassee from Melbourne of avid Barbecue shapes Eater. Oh yeah

2223
01:36:56,119 --> 01:36:59,199
better than chicken crimpy o OI any Aussie will tell

2224
01:36:59,239 --> 01:37:04,399
you that. I don't know if I think sometimes barbecue

2225
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,079
is just too sweet for me. And I'm not a

2226
01:37:07,319 --> 01:37:12,760
sweet snack person. I'm a salty, savory snack person. This

2227
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:13,760
might be a personal.

2228
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,239
Speaker 3: Precice's I never thought of barbecue being sweet, but.

2229
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:25,359
Speaker 1: Miss mesquite definitely has some sweetness too, Okay, stuffy.

2230
01:37:23,079 --> 01:37:26,279
Speaker 4: I definitely like brown sugar.

2231
01:37:27,119 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 6: I I will accept this, And because you are truly

2232
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:34,439
from the landown hunner, I feel like you get more sway.

2233
01:37:34,239 --> 01:37:35,079
Speaker 4: Than I do in this.

2234
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,039
Speaker 6: But I'm allowed to decide my own favorite snacks, and

2235
01:37:38,079 --> 01:37:41,439
chicken crimpy is my favorite, so you know.

2236
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:42,560
Speaker 4: Sorry.

2237
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,359
Speaker 1: Uh As far as the question goes, I have this

2238
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,520
problem often because there are not percentage wise of games

2239
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,479
I've actually finished in the last two years that I

2240
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,960
started is very low. Just because I try so many

2241
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:59,960
things on Steam and for my day job. Everything i'm playing,

2242
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,319
i'm finishing for the most part, and obviously, where like

2243
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:08,479
we're talking extensively about Pragmata, I'm finishing it because, like

2244
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:09,960
I mean, that game's easy to finish, but there are

2245
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,600
other games like I still have not done nearly everything

2246
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:16,720
I could in Elden Ring or in certain Dark Souls

2247
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:17,399
or some side stuff.

2248
01:38:17,399 --> 01:38:19,399
Speaker 6: I still feel like going back to Dark Souls would

2249
01:38:19,399 --> 01:38:21,199
be pretty brutal, because like.

2250
01:38:21,159 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: You're building up a muscle memory from the tutorial in

2251
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,680
those games and trying to you know, like you're ingraining it.

2252
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:31,319
Starting from not from square one, but starting from going

2253
01:38:31,359 --> 01:38:34,000
back to the game after like a year away and

2254
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,680
relearning the timing and everything is one thing, but there's

2255
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,840
also little things you're gaining along the way and your

2256
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,359
character build that are nuanced and like, oh this helps

2257
01:38:42,359 --> 01:38:46,279
against these enemies. Like I usually just start over because

2258
01:38:46,319 --> 01:38:48,760
I don't feel like I have the training to get there,

2259
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,479
like I did that with Ghost of Yota. I didn't

2260
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,880
finish it when it first came out. Love that game,

2261
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:55,359
just had to move on to other stuff. And then

2262
01:38:55,399 --> 01:38:56,760
before Game of the Year, I'm like I'm just going

2263
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:00,399
to restart this that game, especially because like to learning weapon,

2264
01:39:00,399 --> 01:39:03,079
you're literally going through like several quote unquote weeks of

2265
01:39:03,159 --> 01:39:04,880
training to learn it from the master. I was like,

2266
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:06,359
I feel like I need to really start over because

2267
01:39:06,359 --> 01:39:09,840
the's a lot of stances and timing and little equipment

2268
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:11,479
things that I probably forgot about.

2269
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:13,600
Speaker 5: I think it really depends on the game though, Like

2270
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,720
Elton Ring is a great example, because like that's one

2271
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,199
like when Urgery came out, where it's like I think

2272
01:39:17,199 --> 01:39:19,399
a lot of people loaded up their old characters, like god,

2273
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:21,239
what was I even okay? What am I to battle

2274
01:39:21,279 --> 01:39:23,520
age here? What are my spells? I don't really fucking

2275
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,359
know what this guy's deal is. But then there are

2276
01:39:25,399 --> 01:39:27,800
things where it's like, you know, for instance, I was

2277
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:29,840
thinking about how I don't engage with DLC most times,

2278
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,199
even with games that I love, like Requiem. You know,

2279
01:39:32,319 --> 01:39:34,800
Resona will Requiem easily one of my favorite games of

2280
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,239
the year. They did something like DLC not that long

2281
01:39:37,279 --> 01:39:39,840
ago that Leon Must Die Rogue Light something or other mode,

2282
01:39:40,039 --> 01:39:43,439
and like, I adore that fucking game. And with that,

2283
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,680
it's just like, you know, barely enough time to like

2284
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,439
just kind of play all the new releases as they

2285
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:50,239
come out, So my barrier is not worrying about like

2286
01:39:50,399 --> 01:39:52,319
with games like that, like oh am, I gonna remember

2287
01:39:52,319 --> 01:39:55,000
how to play this or anything. It's more just like,

2288
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:59,159
you know, like is this something I need to go

2289
01:39:59,239 --> 01:40:00,880
back to? Is this important enough?

2290
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:01,279
Speaker 3: Or anything?

2291
01:40:01,319 --> 01:40:04,359
Speaker 5: Like urd Tree is something that is a huge addition

2292
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,319
and you want to go back to, but it's also.

2293
01:40:06,079 --> 01:40:07,239
Speaker 4: One practically a new game.

2294
01:40:07,319 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 5: There's like yeah, and the mechanics are so complicated or

2295
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,720
not complicated, but they're more involved to the point where

2296
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:14,439
it's like that would be harder to go back to

2297
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,000
with a character in progress where it's like requim, I

2298
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,840
could pick that up start playing immediately, but that DLC

2299
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:21,880
just kind of seemed like maybe a skippable thing, you know.

2300
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:23,439
So it's really a case by case basis.

2301
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 6: Wah see, it's kind of u The consensus generally is

2302
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,199
that you're not overthinking it. It's really hard to go

2303
01:40:30,279 --> 01:40:32,840
back to a game that you have, in my opinion,

2304
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:34,720
you finish. It reminds me of going back to a

2305
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,199
book that I've read three quarters of.

2306
01:40:37,239 --> 01:40:38,520
Speaker 4: It's like now I just got to start over.

2307
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:41,119
Speaker 6: I find it awkward to go back to a game

2308
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,319
I've tried to pick up Hollow Night Silk Songs several times.

2309
01:40:44,319 --> 01:40:45,279
Speaker 4: In my current play.

2310
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 6: It's very far in. I'm in a very difficult spot.

2311
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,560
I'm fucking miserable. I would rather restart that game than

2312
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:56,520
start it like ninety percent where I'm at right now

2313
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,640
and just be like completely obliterated. I find that kind

2314
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,960
of I also tried to go back to Blueprints the

2315
01:41:03,039 --> 01:41:05,640
other day, and it was kind of the same thing

2316
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:09,039
where I was like, I've already played I've discovered so

2317
01:41:09,239 --> 01:41:11,720
much of the whimsy of this world. I met that

2318
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,279
part where I think I'm trying to there's a certain

2319
01:41:14,319 --> 01:41:16,039
area where you need to get the tunnels so that

2320
01:41:16,039 --> 01:41:19,359
the airflow goes a certain way, and I was like, I.

2321
01:41:19,239 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 4: Don't want to deal with all this. I already felt all.

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01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 6: The vibes that I wanted from Blueprints. I don't think

2323
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:30,039
you could catch me replaying Blueprints from scratch like or

2324
01:41:30,079 --> 01:41:32,640
sorry mid game again. I would have to play it

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01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,199
from scratch, and I'd have to be in the zone

2326
01:41:34,199 --> 01:41:36,159
to play it from scratch. I actually think your instincts

2327
01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:39,560
are spot on. You play a game, enjoy it when

2328
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,199
you're done with it. If you feel the nostalgic itch

2329
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:45,319
go back to it, but ultimately like it's over, it's

2330
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:46,439
jo move on.

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01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:47,359
Speaker 2: No, I don't think.

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01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 1: I also don't think you're overthinking it, because I mean,

2333
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,920
for my consulting, we work with a lot of studios

2334
01:41:54,119 --> 01:41:57,079
and like WAT, more than anything we talk with them

2335
01:41:57,159 --> 01:42:00,199
about onboarding, they think a lot about it. They a

2336
01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:03,479
lot of time into easing people into different mechanics and

2337
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:07,359
making sure they stack in intuitive ways. Most of the

2338
01:42:07,399 --> 01:42:09,960
developers are not like, how do we design this if

2339
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,359
the player lapses for six months and needs to come

2340
01:42:12,399 --> 01:42:12,680
back in.

2341
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 2: They're not thinking that.

2342
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 1: They're like, how do we ease them in if they've

2343
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,119
already been playing for twelve hours since release? Like vast

2344
01:42:18,119 --> 01:42:20,439
majority of games these days are played in the first

2345
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,079
two weeks after release, So they're not thinking about this

2346
01:42:23,199 --> 01:42:25,720
unique situation. Not that they're not thinking about it, but

2347
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,199
it's not a priority. And I don't think that's like

2348
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,359
saying too much. I'm not like putting any of the

2349
01:42:30,399 --> 01:42:32,520
people I work with on blast, like that's just not

2350
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,199
how they think. But like David Diver was easy enough

2351
01:42:35,239 --> 01:42:37,159
just because that game has already got that warrior where

2352
01:42:37,239 --> 01:42:39,119
structure of like doing a bunch of different things where

2353
01:42:39,159 --> 01:42:41,920
it's like I'm still learning those mechanics and they're simple mechanics.

2354
01:42:42,399 --> 01:42:45,760
But also like a lot of design developers design their

2355
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,119
games to be a certain amount level of difficulty here

2356
01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:51,760
based on what you've been doing the previous few hours.

2357
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,119
So like it, I just feel like most games are

2358
01:42:54,119 --> 01:42:55,960
not designed to be able to jump back in, even Balatro,

2359
01:42:56,039 --> 01:42:59,159
which is simple mechanically, like there's a lot of cards

2360
01:42:59,239 --> 01:43:01,640
I need to really grain like what these jokers do.

2361
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:03,760
Metro Vanias, I think is the worst genre to try

2362
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,279
to jump back into because you have the mini map,

2363
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:09,000
but you don't have that mental map that you've been

2364
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:10,960
building and knowing exactly what all these dead ends are

2365
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:11,720
and where you need to go.

2366
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 2: So those are tough. Thank you, Wissie. Dan. Do you

2367
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:17,920
want to do this? One? From David from your neck

2368
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:21,479
of the Woods? What Toledo your original neck of the

2369
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:24,800
Woods to Toledo is Toledo, not Kansas?

2370
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 3: Is here in Topeka?

2371
01:43:26,239 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of Tepeka. Toledo's Ohio.

2372
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's where I'm from.

2373
01:43:31,079 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 2: I've been not even but that right up?

2374
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,359
Speaker 4: Classic cut it Dan from Toledo.

2375
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,279
Speaker 2: From Ohio, Do you want to read this one from

2376
01:43:41,359 --> 01:43:42,960
David how to Escape Ease.

2377
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 5: I'm finishing up a two weeks day in Italy as

2378
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,760
part of an archaeological dig. My now fiance took me

2379
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:51,439
on after a Mike's frequent wine talks. I was excited

2380
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,159
to try the different types of area as famous for Okay,

2381
01:43:54,199 --> 01:43:55,319
I know, David, I'm not mocking you.

2382
01:43:55,359 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this in a mic voice.

2383
01:43:57,119 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 5: After tasting at least fifteen different local including separate taste

2384
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,359
things out of the Mantasino Brunello's, I can firmly say that, well,

2385
01:44:04,399 --> 01:44:06,880
I respect the complexities. Matte sweet to you, still prefers

2386
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:09,520
the alcoholic grape juice. Have a good reggae red. My

2387
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,279
question is it sounds just like my question is, well,

2388
01:44:13,319 --> 01:44:15,359
it's something you've had the best of, but still prefer

2389
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:16,479
the cheap version of that.

2390
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:18,039
Speaker 3: Thanks for all you, dude, David Toledo.

2391
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 2: Separate from all this, that is actually a really good

2392
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:21,600
cartman once.

2393
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:25,079
Speaker 5: I've never tried to do a carbon always, including now the.

2394
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,319
Speaker 1: Intonation at the end, the curl at the end of

2395
01:44:27,319 --> 01:44:29,840
the sentence. I thought I did a good carbon You're

2396
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:33,119
all way better. I'm not kidding that. I was trying

2397
01:44:33,119 --> 01:44:36,560
to do you. I know, but I'm saying you could

2398
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:37,119
do a kick.

2399
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 3: Ass if you want purpose learning stuff.

2400
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,119
Speaker 2: What is something you've had the best stuff but still

2401
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:44,439
prefer the cheap version of it. That's a good question.

2402
01:44:45,239 --> 01:44:47,119
Speaker 5: I got one because around here we try to like

2403
01:44:47,159 --> 01:44:48,960
I'm always talking about the burgers around here, and like

2404
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:50,840
not just like the Juicy Lucy, Like there's just great

2405
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:51,920
fucking burgers everywhere.

2406
01:44:52,199 --> 01:44:54,039
Speaker 3: And there's a new place that just open up.

2407
01:44:54,039 --> 01:44:56,199
Speaker 5: It's called Late Burger forty three oh four and had

2408
01:44:56,239 --> 01:44:58,000
great reviews and stuff. I saw it in the paper

2409
01:44:58,039 --> 01:44:59,800
and it's like we went there and it's like, you know,

2410
01:45:00,039 --> 01:45:01,520
all the burgers. I'm looking at the ingredients for the

2411
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:06,359
La Royale and it's one year crew booth, faux gras,

2412
01:45:06,359 --> 01:45:11,119
Cooper's Fromage Americane, black truck, black truffle, aoli and pickles,

2413
01:45:11,399 --> 01:45:13,960
and it's like it's all like kind of overthought stuff,

2414
01:45:14,079 --> 01:45:14,439
you know.

2415
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 2: And it's like you don't need that in a burd

2416
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:16,760
inventing the wheel.

2417
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like it has good reviews. I know

2418
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,439
it's it's good. It's well made stuff, but like Bak

2419
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,600
and I both had that, and like, man, I would

2420
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,600
just really prefer lions.

2421
01:45:25,279 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 3: Tap that place.

2422
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:27,359
Speaker 5: Then we go to when when you guys come in,

2423
01:45:27,399 --> 01:45:29,079
it's like and that is just like a basic ass

2424
01:45:29,119 --> 01:45:31,199
burger on a paper plate at you know, on the

2425
01:45:31,199 --> 01:45:33,319
side of the road in Minnesota is a million times

2426
01:45:33,319 --> 01:45:35,000
better than this kind of fancy burger place.

2427
01:45:35,079 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 6: The people meal of a burger is better affordable, it's

2428
01:45:40,039 --> 01:45:43,439
better with like whatever you can scrounge up. American cheese

2429
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,720
is great on a fucking burger. You don't need it.

2430
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 2: Like I have.

2431
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:50,119
Speaker 6: Preferred American cheese over cheddar on burgers for years because

2432
01:45:50,119 --> 01:45:52,239
it's meltier, it's give gives you more of that like

2433
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:56,399
go that you are looking for. Smash burgers are amazing,

2434
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,279
and they're so you can make them at home for

2435
01:45:58,359 --> 01:46:00,000
like next I make my own smash burger.

2436
01:46:00,159 --> 01:46:03,239
Speaker 4: They're so cheap, they're so good one hundred percent. You

2437
01:46:03,279 --> 01:46:03,880
just don't need it.

2438
01:46:04,039 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 6: I would not go to a fancy place and buy

2439
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:08,640
a thirty dollars burger. That feels like a waste of

2440
01:46:09,079 --> 01:46:09,960
time and energy.

2441
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 1: This is not the exact same thing. This is sort

2442
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:17,119
of different. I love coffee. I love good coffee. I

2443
01:46:17,159 --> 01:46:21,239
care a lot about how my coffee tastes. But similar

2444
01:46:21,399 --> 01:46:23,960
to how I'm not averse to like shotgunning a bud light.

2445
01:46:24,199 --> 01:46:27,199
If I'm on a road trip and i'm driving, I

2446
01:46:27,239 --> 01:46:29,319
don't think it's truly a road trip unless I'm buying

2447
01:46:29,359 --> 01:46:33,720
like shitty Cumberland Farms gas station coffee. It's not good,

2448
01:46:34,399 --> 01:46:37,640
but it's still I don't want like my local cappuccino

2449
01:46:38,039 --> 01:46:39,720
to I don't want that before I'm getting in the

2450
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:43,680
car to driver. I want like jet fuel way overcooked.

2451
01:46:44,039 --> 01:46:46,319
I want it to taste like like diners same thing.

2452
01:46:46,359 --> 01:46:48,840
I don't want really really good coffee at diners. I

2453
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:52,279
want like the lowest common denominator thing or else I'm

2454
01:46:52,279 --> 01:46:54,640
not really having a diner experience. I don't prefer it

2455
01:46:55,279 --> 01:46:58,000
in the most contexts, but like in certain ones, like

2456
01:46:58,239 --> 01:47:01,119
I'm taking the shitty thing here because otherwise I feel

2457
01:47:01,119 --> 01:47:03,479
like I'm being way too bougie.

2458
01:47:04,279 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 6: I think that's I think there's like a lot of

2459
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,359
examples of it where the cheap thing is also a

2460
01:47:09,399 --> 01:47:15,600
part of its benefit. Loaded fries, I want them moderately priced,

2461
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,239
or they don't taste as good even if they're delicious.

2462
01:47:18,359 --> 01:47:22,079
If they're twenty dollars, that pisses me off. Loaded fries

2463
01:47:22,119 --> 01:47:26,479
should be somewhere between like seven to fifteen dollars like max.

2464
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,760
After that, it's like, what are we doing here? It's fries, cheese,

2465
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:33,239
some bacon, some green onion drizzle some sauce on it

2466
01:47:33,279 --> 01:47:34,119
and be done with it.

2467
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:36,319
Speaker 4: And some of that is just.

2468
01:47:36,279 --> 01:47:39,159
Speaker 6: Like the bedrock of there is a price for a

2469
01:47:39,199 --> 01:47:41,720
good meal that I am willing to pay. There is

2470
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,079
always a point with no matter how good the meal is,

2471
01:47:44,159 --> 01:47:46,319
if it was if I feel like it was overpriced.

2472
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,039
Now I don't think it tastes as good. It bums

2473
01:47:49,079 --> 01:47:50,680
me out to eat something that I feel like I

2474
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,760
paid too much money for, So I'm always looking for

2475
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:56,560
a good bargoon in SF.

2476
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 4: I will always remember that.

2477
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,520
Speaker 6: It was impossible to go out to eat in San

2478
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,520
Francisco for less than twenty thirty dollars.

2479
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 4: Who's so freaking expensive there? I found a.

2480
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 6: Place that had a deal on Wendy Wednesdays for chicken

2481
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:18,319
wings and you could get twelve wings.

2482
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 4: Club the best deals on wings, and they were so good.

2483
01:48:19,079 --> 01:48:22,840
Speaker 2: Gold Club was joking, that's the dude.

2484
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, I prefer the wings and the booth were so

2485
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:27,800
good and I could get out of there.

2486
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 6: I could get out of there shift twenty Bucks, I

2487
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:30,680
could get out of there.

2488
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 2: I would have the courage charge though we know, we

2489
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:34,840
know somebody used to go there for lunch during a

2490
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:37,279
work day, because I know who you're talking about. Yeah,

2491
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:39,760
for the.

2492
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 4: Wings, for the wings. He would always say, it's just

2493
01:48:44,039 --> 01:48:44,760
such a good deal.

2494
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 2: Last one.

2495
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:49,039
Speaker 1: When I'm getting like legit barbecue down South, if they

2496
01:48:49,039 --> 01:48:51,479
give me like fucking fukasha bread on the plate.

2497
01:48:51,319 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm leaving immediately.

2498
01:48:53,079 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 1: I need white wonder bread, like shitty white bread to

2499
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:56,600
mop it up.

2500
01:48:57,119 --> 01:48:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're giving.

2501
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 1: Us, I'm like, nope, I'm frisbeeing the bread back into

2502
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,479
the kitchen and then I'm rab it up.

2503
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 2: But anyway, good question, Thank.

2504
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 4: You, Yeah, thank you guys.

2505
01:49:08,359 --> 01:49:12,720
Speaker 2: David from Topeka, Uh sure, I know.

2506
01:49:13,319 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I say, that's our.

2507
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:19,079
Speaker 7: Show, David from Topeka, David from Topka, Classie from the

2508
01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:23,880
BOSSI it was a good weekend recording.

2509
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:28,039
Speaker 2: Mary. What do you have going on before our next episode?

2510
01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:31,640
Speaker 4: Just streaming on Mondays as usual. Check it out.

2511
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:35,239
Speaker 6: I usually do go live on Mondays after work, and

2512
01:49:35,279 --> 01:49:36,600
I've been playing a lot of the games that we

2513
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:37,920
talk about, which is fun.

2514
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:40,600
Speaker 4: And then I'm going to try not travel.

2515
01:49:40,319 --> 01:49:43,520
Speaker 6: For a while because I'm so tired. I went to

2516
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:45,319
open sauce. Well we'll talk about that some other time.

2517
01:49:45,359 --> 01:49:47,560
But it was really cool. But I'm like so exhausted.

2518
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,119
Speaker 4: No more traveling for Mary for a little bit, Unlike Dan.

2519
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:52,239
Speaker 2: I'm coming to you, Dan, Yeah, Dan, what do you

2520
01:49:52,279 --> 01:49:52,720
have going on?

2521
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,199
Speaker 5: Come to me, Dan, I've got a road trip coming

2522
01:49:55,279 --> 01:49:57,840
up here and flying into San Francisco a couple days early,

2523
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:00,600
hanging out, staying with some friends and and then hitting

2524
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:04,960
the road with Giant Bombs Jeff Grab, Jiannachoa and Mike Manatti,

2525
01:50:05,039 --> 01:50:07,840
and we were gonna drive up the coast and wind

2526
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,880
up in Portland, hang out with Mary doing a mis

2527
01:50:11,079 --> 01:50:15,199
convention apparently. Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, sure, that'll be interesting.

2528
01:50:16,079 --> 01:50:18,159
And then yeah, hanging out with some fans at We're

2529
01:50:18,159 --> 01:50:19,399
gonna put together a little meet up things.

2530
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 6: So Giant bompans, how do people find it if we're

2531
01:50:22,039 --> 01:50:22,600
keeping it low key?

2532
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:24,119
Speaker 5: So we're gonna keep like kind of a premium thing.

2533
01:50:24,199 --> 01:50:27,319
So we've got you know, discord and stuff. We're we're

2534
01:50:27,319 --> 01:50:29,119
gonna get it out there. But it's gonna be very fun.

2535
01:50:29,159 --> 01:50:31,319
Looking forward to seeing you. That's gonna be great.

2536
01:50:31,239 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 4: And I'm excited.

2537
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:33,640
Speaker 3: It's gonna be awesome.

2538
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 4: We got to take the voice to a good brunch spot.

2539
01:50:36,119 --> 01:50:39,039
Speaker 3: Oh god, that Pine State Biscuits was the fucking best.

2540
01:50:39,399 --> 01:50:40,079
That was so good.

2541
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: And speaking of speaking of premium members, I should mention

2542
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:44,960
if you're already a video patron, you saw we did

2543
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,760
a mecha chameleon bonus video co op video with all

2544
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,319
three of us and Jake, our producer. You're not already

2545
01:50:50,319 --> 01:50:52,840
a bonus a video patron. Go become one.

2546
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:53,319
Speaker 2: You'll get that.

2547
01:50:53,359 --> 01:50:55,279
Speaker 1: You'll get all our past bonus episodes. That one was

2548
01:50:55,319 --> 01:50:59,199
super fun co op kind of friends sloppy game you

2549
01:50:59,239 --> 01:51:01,319
know we always want to do. You can also get

2550
01:51:01,359 --> 01:51:04,239
add free episode. Just go to firescapecast dot com to

2551
01:51:04,279 --> 01:51:06,159
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2552
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:08,359
We also just have a you know, a tip jar

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if you appreciate what we do. We again, it's fire

2554
01:51:12,279 --> 01:51:15,159
Escape cast at gmail dot com. As far as I'm concerned,

2555
01:51:15,319 --> 01:51:18,439
my day job, it's all behind the scenes stuff with games. However,

2556
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you can probably easily find out where I work as

2557
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a somier should tell people I'm at a French wine

2558
01:51:24,239 --> 01:51:25,880
bar in New York and I'm now at an Italian

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01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,720
restaurant as well which is famous wood fires.

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Speaker 2: Everything.

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01:51:29,199 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 1: You two need to come, like next time we do

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01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:32,279
a fire escape thing in New York, or just next

2563
01:51:32,319 --> 01:51:33,760
time you're in New York. Need to come because it's

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01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:37,560
like all wood fired, like rustic Italian food.

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01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 2: It's kickass. You can find those places on my Instagram.

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01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:44,319
Speaker 1: I won't say I'm out loud now, but I'm like,

2567
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,159
I'm basically doxing myself on my Instagram. So you can come,

2568
01:51:47,199 --> 01:51:49,159
say hi, tell me you're a fire Escape listener, and

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01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:50,239
be fun to hang out.

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01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:51,199
Speaker 2: All right.

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01:51:51,239 --> 01:51:53,079
Speaker 1: We will be back in a couple weeks with episode

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01:51:53,079 --> 01:51:55,920
one thirty eight. Thanks for joining today, everybody, We'll see

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01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:56,159
you then.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye,