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<v Speaker 1>That's no moon, it's a space station. Hey guys, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the show. Just a few quick reminders before

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<v Speaker 1>we get started. Our Hawaii conference is right around the corner,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are still tickets available if you would like

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<v Speaker 1>to join us April twentieth through to twenty fourth on

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Island. All of that information can be found

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<v Speaker 1>at journey totruth dot online. That link is below. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Aaron, did you notice that our links are

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<v Speaker 1>working again on YouTube? They gave us. They just gave

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<v Speaker 1>us a feature back.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I just noticed the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, how about that?

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<v Speaker 1>So for a minute there for those who don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess YouTube took away some of our advanced features

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<v Speaker 1>and we could put links under our videos. But that

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<v Speaker 1>option has been given back to us. So that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you can click the links that we talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, now you don't have to copy and paste the

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<v Speaker 3>links again rrectly right.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and we can't wait, guys. There are very

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<v Speaker 1>limited amount of tickets left for Hawaii, like twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five tickets and maybe even less. But if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to join us, I would start planning your trip now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a blast. You know, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to this for a long time and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be here before you know it. So April twentieth,

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<v Speaker 1>start planning your trip now, grab a ticket, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see you there. I did also just

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<v Speaker 1>create a telegram link for that conference, so anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>has purchased a ticket email me and I will send you,

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<v Speaker 1>guys to telegram link if you want to join the

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<v Speaker 1>chain to try and coordinate with people and plan your

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<v Speaker 1>trip and all that stuff. So I will also put

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<v Speaker 1>that link on the website here. I just need to

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<v Speaker 1>remind myself to do it anyway. That being said, today

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<v Speaker 1>we are joined by Alandra Markman, somebody we've been meaning

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<v Speaker 1>to have on the show for quite some time, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're excited to be here with him. We ran into

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<v Speaker 1>him in Mount Shasta a couple of years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just it took us this long to finally get together.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know he specifically he's been doing career teaching

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<v Speaker 1>with in co creative meditation and helping other SRA and

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<v Speaker 1>SSP survivors to heal. So we're going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about some of that. But he has his own secret

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<v Speaker 1>space program story a satanic ritual abuse story. He's a survivor,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also likes to help people and integrate, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to fragmented the soul, fragments and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to get into plenty of fun stuff today.

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<v Speaker 1>But welcome to the show, Alandra.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, so. I understand I probably didn't do the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest job introducing you. So if you would like to

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<v Speaker 1>let our audience know a little bit more about who

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<v Speaker 1>you are and how you found your way into doing

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing today, and then we can go from there. Sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I am Alandra. I am a meditation teacher and

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<v Speaker 2>I do coaching work with people for spiritual development, and

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<v Speaker 2>I also help survivors of trauma based mind control to heal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my preferred term. It's a big category include satanic

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<v Speaker 2>ritual abuse, secret space program stuff, targeted individual stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>went through all of those categories growing up and I

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<v Speaker 2>found my path to freedom. So that now that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, my part of my continuing learning is

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<v Speaker 2>to teach others. So that's where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 1>Right So, and we don't have to get into the heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>the dark stuff obviously, but so your story begins at

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<v Speaker 1>what age? What like, what did you realize or looking

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<v Speaker 1>back on it now, when do you when did you

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<v Speaker 1>realize this was all starting for you?

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<v Speaker 2>There are two main timelines that I'm on. The initial

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<v Speaker 2>person his name is Max, was born in nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 2>and then the person whose body this is who we're

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<v Speaker 2>calling Alandra I was born as Allen was born in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty six. So I'm working with those two main

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<v Speaker 2>reference points for timing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna pause you really quick because I actually

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<v Speaker 1>I find that aspect very interesting and I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>something similar going on with myself. So explain to me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a five year old, what do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 1>How can you be born two different places to differ years?

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand that it's real, but for I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>still trying to understand it, so I will appreciate this explanation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well, the simple way to say it is, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>two people in one body. So some people would consider

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<v Speaker 2>that nineteen seventy birth a past life. For me, that's not.

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<v Speaker 3>What it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Past lives are normal. Everybody reincarnates, So this I just

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<v Speaker 2>considered normal. Nothing really outstanding about that in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do remember the past lives, so I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that part is special. But what happened here is

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't go through the natural reincarnation process. We were

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<v Speaker 2>just moved directly from that body into this body by

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<v Speaker 2>artificial means consciousness transfer. I don't know if that was

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<v Speaker 2>like five year old.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but no, but that that helps. Yeah, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely helps.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, continue, Yeah, So our original body is passed away,

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<v Speaker 2>and now in this body we have these two people

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<v Speaker 2>plus some other beings that are functioning together as one.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're an inter being. We combine a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>different human perspectives and a couple of et perspectives.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, co and then so then essentially then you

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<v Speaker 1>were just born into whatever program this is or was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in that body, I was abducted as a young

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<v Speaker 2>child when I was four years old. In this body,

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<v Speaker 2>it was from birth. This body is from a Satanic

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<v Speaker 2>bloodline family. The abuse happened from birth in this body.

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<v Speaker 1>So your family, the family lineage, I guess, has been involved.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's an ancestral thing. And like this is I

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<v Speaker 1>guess to just clarify, So it's not confusing. Your memories

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<v Speaker 1>from this lifetime are they real time memories? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>also like abduction memories from another branch?

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<v Speaker 2>Well both because I was also at regressed, so that

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<v Speaker 2>gets into a lot of different complexity. This body has

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<v Speaker 2>also been on over a dozen different timelines, so those

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<v Speaker 2>are simultaneous memories where it's the same dates but different events,

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<v Speaker 2>different circumstances.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's also true.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're getting into quantum mechanics, the many world's theory,

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<v Speaker 1>like we have infinite many versions of ourselves living simultaneously,

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<v Speaker 1>part time, exactly parallel realities timelines.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's the organic version of that, which we all

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<v Speaker 2>have some glimpse into, and then there's the art official

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<v Speaker 2>version of it, which is much more dense and much

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<v Speaker 2>more reliant on different forms of technology.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was the big turning point for you in

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<v Speaker 1>your adulthood when you realize, oh, my gosh, I'm involved

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<v Speaker 1>with this. This has happened to me Because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that you always had that knowing or did you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a part of me always did, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>very conscious. Yeah, my memories really started coming back around

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine. That was kind of my watershed moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So in this body, I was in my late twenties

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<v Speaker 2>and really well, first came some of the more traumatic

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<v Speaker 2>sexual assault experiences. That was some of the first stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to come up, and I started realizing there was more

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<v Speaker 2>going on than I had been aware of. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>my narrative at that point was just that I came

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<v Speaker 2>from an emotionally and physically abusive, you know, home with

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<v Speaker 2>very mentally ill mother. And that part's also true, like

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<v Speaker 2>that's the part that I was always aware of, But

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<v Speaker 2>all this other stuff I started to become aware of.

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<v Speaker 2>Around then, I had very intrusive memories. It was when

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<v Speaker 2>I started meditating seriously. Well that was two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 2>So that kind of late two thousands period is when

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting big chunks of memory back, getting flooded

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<v Speaker 2>with like really intense, painful body sensations. So that's when

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<v Speaker 2>the ball really started rolling and I gradually started putting

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<v Speaker 2>the pieces together, but it took me a while. It

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<v Speaker 2>took me roughly from that period like two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and eight up until twenty thirteen ish, so

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<v Speaker 2>a good four years five years where I was very

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<v Speaker 2>confused about what had happened. To me, I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>pieces coming back. The way I approached it basically was

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<v Speaker 2>to go in outward order from more believable in a

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<v Speaker 2>consensus reality way to less believable. So I just I

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<v Speaker 2>started with the sexual stuff. Oh I came from a

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<v Speaker 2>family with incest. You know, that was like the first

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<v Speaker 2>big chunk. And then I started accepting that, moving through

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<v Speaker 2>my shock about that, and then you know, moving outwards

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<v Speaker 2>out out of consensus reality. Oh I was also I

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<v Speaker 2>was commercially sexually trafficked. You know, that's that's still consensus reality,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's kind of on the edge.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like people have a hard time just accepting that

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<v Speaker 2>that happens, including myself, Like I was having trouble believing myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, this is why I was doing it

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<v Speaker 2>this way. And then from there I went to my

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<v Speaker 2>first real trauma therapy in twenty thirteen, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>floodgates really opened and I was able to speak about

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<v Speaker 2>more detailed things that were farther outside of consensus reality. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just sexual trafficking. These were satanic rituals. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just satanic rituals. This was an organized military

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<v Speaker 2>operation with et beings and lots of moving parts outside

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<v Speaker 2>of Earth. So that's kind of how I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, A good way to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, start start with the more believable, so to speak, things,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you go and then you realize, oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff isn't not only real, but it happened to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a lot to process, I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's one of the biggest challenges for survivors of

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<v Speaker 2>these things, like learning to believe ourselves, learning to trust ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's still you know, we just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>premiered our documentary the other night in Sedona, and it

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<v Speaker 1>talks about similar themes and we had did a Q

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<v Speaker 1>and A at the end and and somebody asks, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how how do you expect people out there the masses

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<v Speaker 1>to even buy this type of time travel twenty and

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<v Speaker 1>back stuff, Like like, we understand, we've been at this

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<v Speaker 1>for years, that this is actually very fundamentally true, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know time travels name of the game, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>technologies involve blah blah blah blah that we're not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to know about. But how does for to get the

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<v Speaker 1>normal person to bite onto that right, and then take

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<v Speaker 1>it seriously. I think that's where most people need to

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<v Speaker 1>find They need to walk that tightrope because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to scare people off with this stuff if you

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<v Speaker 1>want them to take it seriously, Like you had to

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<v Speaker 1>do that even with yourself. As what I'm trying to say,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can imagine we can. We have to keep

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<v Speaker 1>this in mind if we're trying to tell other people

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<v Speaker 1>about it, you know, so to wrap your head around

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<v Speaker 1>these insane technologies and you know what we're capable of.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very healthy approach. So then you started realizing

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<v Speaker 1>that you were involved in these programs and stuff, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>at what point did you say, Okay, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>do something about this. Am I still involved? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>did that look like? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, by the time I had my memories coming back,

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<v Speaker 2>most of the hard work to get free was already done, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 2>So some people have to deal with targeting while they're

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<v Speaker 2>still getting their memories back. For me, that was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>the memories back, So I was kind of lucky in

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<v Speaker 2>that way, because it's very very hard to navigate the

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<v Speaker 2>past stuff when you're still dealing with present targeting. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but for me, that's how it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you give us an example of, let's just say,

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I spent a lot of time on Mars. I

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<v Speaker 2>It was almost a forty year career. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>But when I when I look across my different timeline experiences,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the more stable ones because I was

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<v Speaker 2>So that's an easier one to talk about. There were

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and those are much more intense. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd get blown to pieces and then thrown in a

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<v Speaker 2>just really miserable experience. And of course the memories are

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<v Speaker 1>So right, so what what is your opinion as far

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<v Speaker 1>as life on Mars existing?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Pete Keer Cassidy had the whistle boarer one time

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<v Speaker 1>that said, the people that get their memories back from

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<v Speaker 1>Mars are remembering life from a different dimension, meaning that

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<v Speaker 1>if we went there in a spaceship, we wouldn't see

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<v Speaker 1>the things and find the things that people are remembering.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think this happened on a higher plane and

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<v Speaker 1>a parallel timeline, Like, do you think we would go

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you would definitely physically find it. It's three D

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<v Speaker 2>in this in this reality, yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you agree with the other aspect of that too,

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<v Speaker 1>that you know there's are.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, there's always more to the story. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>these human lives that we live are just incredibly multi

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<v Speaker 2>dimensional phenomena by their nature. You know, whether you go

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote normal life, our life, by its nature operates

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<v Speaker 2>across all these dimensions and so there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>content that a lot of us remember and experience across

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<v Speaker 2>many different modes of perception and dimensions. So yeah, in

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<v Speaker 2>a general sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, whenever you say, okay, so did you experience

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<v Speaker 1>targeting as an adult as you were like remembering this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It was more subtle. I had basically gotten free by

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<v Speaker 2>around two thousand, So after that, I was never actually

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<v Speaker 2>in the cult again. I was never in the military

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<v Speaker 2>programs again. What would happen instead is I would have

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<v Speaker 2>people come into my life who were, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to trigger me or trying to block memories. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I would especially love interests. I would have love interests

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<v Speaker 2>that showed up that would be functioning as handlers and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to just slow down my whole process of remembering

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<v Speaker 2>and speaking out and becoming a teacher and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So there were definitely some targeting instances after I got free,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were more subtle and they relied more on

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<v Speaker 2>my free will participation, you know, like, once you're free

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<v Speaker 2>of the of the immediate manipulation, they need some degree

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<v Speaker 2>of you saying yes in order to get into your field.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a sovereign adult person. You know, as a child,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very different, like you don't have that power over

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and you don't have that kind of insight into

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<v Speaker 2>your mind just because you're not physically mature. But as

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<v Speaker 2>an adult free of the programs, there were infringements on

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<v Speaker 2>my sovereignty, but they were still like basically coming from

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<v Speaker 2>my free will expression.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let's talk about that a little deeper. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree that it all has to be done with your

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<v Speaker 1>consent on some level, even though they might have a sick,

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<v Speaker 1>twisted perspective on how that actually looks. But we are

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<v Speaker 1>tricked into consent in many situations and there's deception involved.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, how do you how do you cope with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like understanding that, Yeah, I agreed, but I was tricked

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<v Speaker 1>into it, you know, And that's something that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people struggle with because you know, it's not fair, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's incredibly unfair. It's so unfair, and the Higher

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<v Speaker 2>Self does make some agreements that are radically unfair to

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<v Speaker 2>the human person, just radically, and that was definitely the

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<v Speaker 2>case for me. I mean, this was not my idea

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<v Speaker 2>of initiation. You know, I'd rather go through some consensual

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<v Speaker 2>shamanic experience, Like I didn't want to have all this trauma,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was my higher selves idea of initiation.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what happened, right, Yeah. I think it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that we find ourselves in these situations and you wonder

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<v Speaker 1>why and how, and then you have to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the root cause. And actually, like we want to

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<v Speaker 1>at first, we want to point the fingers at all

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<v Speaker 1>these agencies and corporations, but then we consent it. But

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<v Speaker 1>then where we tricked into it, Like it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>fine line there, and I don't think it's black and white,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, maybe we chose it on a higher level.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we just chose the overall experience. But the details

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<v Speaker 1>or the specifics, we're going to evolve as they as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that came into our lives. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's any number of situations that can happen. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have anything to add to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say that that some body minds are more fought

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<v Speaker 2>over than others. So this particular body that I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>comes from a reptilian bloodline family, and so in order

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<v Speaker 2>to incarnate into this body, I had to run the

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<v Speaker 2>gauntlet of all these things even before I came into

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<v Speaker 2>this incarnation, you know, this was a heavily guarded, heavily

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<v Speaker 2>fought over incarnation, and so there's a lot of competition

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<v Speaker 2>to get into these kinds of bodies. There are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of souls that are knocking at those gates, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of them don't realize the full implications of

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<v Speaker 2>what they're getting into. When you look at it from

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<v Speaker 2>the soul level, you think, oh, sure, I can deal

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<v Speaker 2>with that, and then you get into it, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh fuck, this is a living hell, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's that piece. I just want to say, this body

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm in is, as far as some of the

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<v Speaker 2>drake garre concerned, it's very valuable real estate. Not every

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<v Speaker 2>human body is so fought over as this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron, were you going to say something, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a dovetail onto this. I know. I've heard many

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<v Speaker 3>people either near death experiencers or people that remember their

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<v Speaker 3>their life between livees when they were at the soul

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<v Speaker 3>level or the higher self level where they're even choosing

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<v Speaker 3>their current incarnation, and they're they're like, wow, I actually

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<v Speaker 3>signed up for all this horrible stuff. Why would I

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<v Speaker 3>do that? But they they remember being in that perspective

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<v Speaker 3>where you have such a greater perspective and to them,

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<v Speaker 3>this life is like that, it's like so quick and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like nothing, and they see the and you see

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<v Speaker 3>the value of your experiences from that perspective, whereas once

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<v Speaker 3>you get in here, you kind of have this amnesia

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<v Speaker 3>and you're just in it and it's a whole different experience,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, and you're like, would why is this happening?

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<v Speaker 3>Why would I choose this? This is insane? And so

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<v Speaker 3>you get back there and you're like, oh, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>was so valuable. Now I get it again, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just from this small three perspective, things are

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<v Speaker 3>hard to kind of grasp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, my soul family is very large, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>true for a lot of people who use these difficult experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the the Draco beings, the Zeta reticular beings,

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<v Speaker 2>the Orion beings, the ones that are perpetrating these things,

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<v Speaker 2>those are also my soul family, you know. So we

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<v Speaker 2>had our own communion and our own agreements, like before

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<v Speaker 2>I took this incarnations, like okay, like we're we're all

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<v Speaker 2>family in an extended sense, even though in this body

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<v Speaker 2>I would never trust them, you know, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, right, yeah, so Aaron, really quick check your

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<v Speaker 1>microphone and see if it's on the right setting. We

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<v Speaker 1>can we can still hear you, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's not anyways, sticking it up for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sorry, sorry about the interruption there. So okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>you say this goes far, goes beyond trauma based mind control,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's et is involved, even like your ets embodying

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<v Speaker 1>you and other soul fragments and stuff. But what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean when you say it was beyond that?

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<v Speaker 2>It means that this is just a small part of

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<v Speaker 2>a very long journey kind of what Aaron was getting at.

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<v Speaker 2>These events of our lives are put into motions so

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<v Speaker 2>long ago, the entire string of all of our human incarnations.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's not just counsel between lives, there's counsel before

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<v Speaker 2>all the lives. And I have my soul contracts with

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<v Speaker 2>Gya herself to serve her in many, many different forms.

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<v Speaker 2>And this has been my journey with Gya across countless

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<v Speaker 2>millennia and countless bodies, human and non human bodies, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I have just a standing commitment my own conscious relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with Gia. She's the one I'm serving first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 2>and so basically whatever sort of experience will allow me

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<v Speaker 2>to serve her best is the one that I choose

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<v Speaker 2>for myself in the extended.

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<v Speaker 1>Sense, right, And I like that you brought that up,

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<v Speaker 1>because remembering that we're here to either serve Gia or

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<v Speaker 1>work with her, you know, live in harmony with the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>bring it back online, whatever that is, like we that's

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing to remember because like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>it can feel like a living hell. If once you

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<v Speaker 1>go through this stuff and you're down here, I'm like why,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're just bombarded every day. So to like, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>to have that fundamental understanding of what you're actually doing here.

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<v Speaker 1>And it might be to blow the whistle, remember being

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<v Speaker 1>part of these programs and blow the whistle and help

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<v Speaker 1>expose that. But there's even a higher mission, is what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would like to mention in addition to serving Guy,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a very close relationship with the Ontarians. They're

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<v Speaker 2>a positive eighth density alien race from the Scorpio constellation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've called my business on tarian journeys that are

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<v Speaker 2>very very close to my heart. I have a future

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<v Speaker 2>incarnation in the Antarist system, and that magic, that Ontarian

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<v Speaker 2>magic has been part of every incarnation that I've had

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<v Speaker 2>on Earth, not just the recent ones. So there are

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<v Speaker 2>some threads from deeper time that are flowing through here.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Ontarians are the ones who helped me survive

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<v Speaker 2>these experiences. Helped me survive mon Talk, helped me survive Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they were always there with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this is really interesting. This is a group

423
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<v Speaker 1>that I don't hear a lot of people talk about.

424
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<v Speaker 1>I've heard them brought up before. Now whenever you say

425
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<v Speaker 1>they're helping and are they coming in the form of

426
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<v Speaker 1>a spirit guide? Are there actual Ontarians like in a

427
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<v Speaker 1>base here on Earth physically or what do you know

428
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<v Speaker 1>about that?

429
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<v Speaker 2>Primarily as spirit guides, sometimes also in physical matter. It

430
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<v Speaker 2>takes them a tremendous amount of energy to become physical,

431
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.480
<v Speaker 2>so they don't often do it, but they do on occasion,

432
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<v Speaker 2>and they have to. They have done that to save

433
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<v Speaker 2>my life on a few occasions. So that's a big

434
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<v Speaker 2>part of why I'm talking to you, is because they

435
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<v Speaker 2>made themselves three D for long enough to help me

436
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:55.119
<v Speaker 2>with something, you know, to help get me through something.

437
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<v Speaker 1>Oh go ahead.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't don't hear about them that much because

439
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:04.319
<v Speaker 2>not a lot of humans are incarnated from that source.

440
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<v Speaker 2>The Ontarians are a true neutral party. They're not part

441
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<v Speaker 2>of the Galactic Federation, although they do support all those

442
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:13.200
<v Speaker 2>other groups, the ones that we hear about more, you know,

443
00:24:13.319 --> 00:24:17.799
<v Speaker 2>Pleadeans and Syrians and Arctarians, and yeah, much love to

444
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:22.839
<v Speaker 2>all of those groups. The Ontarians are are more of

445
00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 2>an independent civilization. They don't serve good or evil. They're

446
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:30.960
<v Speaker 2>completely beyond those kinds of distinctions, you know, like the

447
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Federation groups are serving good, and the Orions and the

448
00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:37.440
<v Speaker 2>draco are mostly serving evil. And there's that whole drama,

449
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:40.519
<v Speaker 2>which I do appreciate and obviously I have been part of.

450
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:45.720
<v Speaker 2>But the Ontarians basically don't touch any of that karma

451
00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:51.240
<v Speaker 2>drama stuff. They're on a higher level and every being

452
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:53.920
<v Speaker 2>needs them in order to incarnate on planet Earth. They

453
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<v Speaker 2>have a very intimate relationship with the birth cycle. Ontario's

454
00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:59.599
<v Speaker 2>is kind of the birth canal. It's like households move

455
00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:03.880
<v Speaker 2>into the earthplane. So everybody needs that, like the good,

456
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:06.720
<v Speaker 2>the evil, the indifferent, they all have to use the

457
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.759
<v Speaker 2>birth canal of Antaras, and so it's a neutral space.

458
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<v Speaker 2>It's a space which all parties, regardless of orientation, understand

459
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.759
<v Speaker 2>to be so fundamental to life that it basically can't

460
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<v Speaker 2>be tampered with.

461
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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, that's beautiful, and I don't know that I've

462
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.319
<v Speaker 1>ever actually heard that before. And it would make sense

463
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<v Speaker 1>that certain groups have are assigned specific roles in the

464
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<v Speaker 1>human experience. And when you say that, a few occasions

465
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<v Speaker 1>they've incarnated or manifested physically, what did they look like.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Did they come in the form of a human or

467
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<v Speaker 1>did they have a very specific look or what.

468
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<v Speaker 2>There are a couple of main groups. One group is

469
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<v Speaker 2>dog headed, so they're humanoids with dog heads, kind of

470
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<v Speaker 2>like Anubis, the Egyptian god Anubis, which is part of

471
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<v Speaker 2>I was also part of Project Ivis, and I was

472
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<v Speaker 2>Anubis was my avatar, so you know, they had some

473
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<v Speaker 2>insight into who I was at a soul level to

474
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:10.920
<v Speaker 2>use me in that way. So basically, these jackal beings,

475
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:15.319
<v Speaker 2>these Anubis type creatures, jackal is still my heart animal,

476
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.799
<v Speaker 2>my spirit animal, and there's a very strong connection there.

477
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.039
<v Speaker 2>There's you know, the the energy pattern of the jackal

478
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:25.880
<v Speaker 2>is very reminiscent of the Ontarian heart. So that's one

479
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:31.240
<v Speaker 2>thread other times they'll show up as insectoids, commonly manteds,

480
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:35.319
<v Speaker 2>sometimes ants or things in between, kind of an ant

481
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:41.759
<v Speaker 2>mantis hybrid and very very benevolent, very intelligent, a little

482
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:44.359
<v Speaker 2>bit similar to the ants on Mars that you know,

483
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:49.759
<v Speaker 2>other survivors have talked about and that I've seen. But

484
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:53.880
<v Speaker 2>but they've had millions, billions more years of evolution, so

485
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.799
<v Speaker 2>they're they're in a very different place. But physically, usually

486
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<v Speaker 2>they'll come in either this kind of dog headed form

487
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>or this insectoid form, or just as orbs, which is

488
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>just the generic way that we see higher beings a

489
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.119
<v Speaker 2>lot of the time, you know.

490
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.839
<v Speaker 1>So what determines which form they choose. I'm very curious

491
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>about this because that somebody that can be confusing. You're

492
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:21.799
<v Speaker 1>talking about this Anubis type of dog being and then insectoids,

493
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.279
<v Speaker 1>but they're being the same race.

494
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the same, it's the same basic frequency. So well,

495
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.839
<v Speaker 2>this gets really meta, but it kind of.

496
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Started off that way. So yeah, yeah, we get.

497
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.039
<v Speaker 3>That, we get we go everywhere on the show.

498
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that so much. Well, every star has its

499
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.880
<v Speaker 2>harmonics for the forms of life that it can support.

500
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, our son's soul is incredibly diverse, like he

501
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>supports all sorts of crazy life forms. We have star

502
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 2>seeded life forms from just about everywhere in many, many universes,

503
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, showing up in our systems, showing up on Earth.

504
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Most star systems are a little less diverse in the

505
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>forms that will show up there. So Ataras is a

506
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.799
<v Speaker 2>binary star system. There's atars A and B. A is

507
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a big red star and B is a small blue star.

508
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Part of it depends on how they're relating to the

509
00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:22.319
<v Speaker 2>frequency of the star that they come from. So most

510
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 2>of my people are from Atara's B and so they'll

511
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:32.799
<v Speaker 2>primarily use the dog headed forms. And well, that was

512
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>a great lead up, But I don't know if I

513
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>actually understand the specific like reasons for the choice in

514
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the moment. I just know that's how they've showed up,

515
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:41.440
<v Speaker 2>and they've told me that it has to do with

516
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>the harmonics of the stars.

517
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, that's very interesting. I mean, I love

518
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:50.359
<v Speaker 1>the I love where you're coming at this from because

519
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>it's such a deeper perspective, right and yet like understanding

520
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the frequencies involved in that, like basically anything's possible. They don't,

521
00:28:58.400 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not, it's not finite.

522
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, I guess the other I guess the last

523
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:04.559
<v Speaker 2>part of that was if they're coming from antaras a

524
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:06.960
<v Speaker 2>from the larger star, they're more likely to show up

525
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 2>as mantids. Yeah.

526
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Interesting. So then that that begs the question when somebody

527
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>encounters a dog being or manted it doesn't specifically mean

528
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.839
<v Speaker 1>that they're from a you know, A or B place, right,

529
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>It could be.

530
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily Well, like humans, you know, we can be

531
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.119
<v Speaker 2>from anywhere. The human civilization is all across the universe.

532
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>There are many many people that look like us. Just

533
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>because they look like us doesn't mean they're from Earth,

534
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>you know.

535
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think the Stargate SG one series depicts

536
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:40.039
<v Speaker 1>that beautifully and found.

537
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:42.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, that Night Sky showed that, Amanda and I

538
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 3>just watched a few months ago too. This guy comes

539
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.839
<v Speaker 3>through basically it looks like a jump gate, and he's

540
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.160
<v Speaker 3>a human, but he's from some planet many many light

541
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:57.359
<v Speaker 3>years away, and and he speaks English, but like the

542
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:02.119
<v Speaker 3>language they're they're taught Latin on his planet, which I think,

543
00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 3>I think it's like pure disclosure, like you know, so

544
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:06.640
<v Speaker 3>much like we see in sci fi is like straight

545
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 3>up just pure disclosure.

546
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

547
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh I could also say, on the physical level, I'm

548
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>hybridized with alpha Centauri humans, so there are some slight

549
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>differences that make me a little unusual on Earth, but

550
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I'd be very average by alpha Centaurian standards. So there's

551
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:24.640
<v Speaker 2>that connection.

552
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Also, So antarian and Centaurian, yeah.

553
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Ontarian and alpha Centaurian.

554
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I just thought I've always heard that alpha

555
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Centaurians referred to as the Centaurians, So yeah, yeah, interesting.

556
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<v Speaker 3>But real quick, the human format, like our format of itself,

557
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 3>is that didn't start on this planet, so we are

558
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:48.319
<v Speaker 3>you could say, ets, you know, this is true that

559
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 3>he came here along, you know, from all over the place,

560
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:55.079
<v Speaker 3>and some people say Lyra was really kind of the

561
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.319
<v Speaker 3>the birthplace of the modern human.

562
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And one of the things in Targate that I

563
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>find interesting too is so they'll go discover a new

564
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:08.559
<v Speaker 1>planet and there'll be a humans humans on that planet

565
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 1>that actually they've learned originated on Earth from like the

566
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Hebrides Islanders Islands or something, and they have like this name,

567
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 1>but they don't even know that that's where they're from.

568
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:24.559
<v Speaker 1>And it's to me that's such a random, weird, unique

569
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>detail to include in a show, unless there's some that's

570
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.799
<v Speaker 1>actually the truth, right, Yeah, So they're encountering people who

571
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:34.799
<v Speaker 1>have actually originated on Earth some time ago and now

572
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 1>have forgotten who they are, and they're on this other planet,

573
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>don't even under they have no awareness that their origins

574
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>are tied to Earth. So there's so many situations like that.

575
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.079
<v Speaker 1>That's one example. Like I don't think we can fathom

576
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the complexity of what's actually going on.

577
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Probably not, and that's why we're here to try to

578
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:53.920
<v Speaker 2>fathom it.

579
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Right. So you're talking about you know, you like the

580
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.319
<v Speaker 1>hell people heal you say healing age regressions and distortions.

581
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 1>When you say healing age regressions, what does that mean?

582
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:11.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, I work with a lot of people who are

583
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>up there in the secret Space program somewhere having a

584
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>parallel life experience or having a parallel timeline experience. It's

585
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 2>a very, sadly, very common thing that a lot of

586
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>people deal with, mostly unconsciously. The vast majority of super

587
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.519
<v Speaker 2>soldiers are dealing with this on an unconscious level. But

588
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:33.519
<v Speaker 2>for those who are working through it consciously and want

589
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:36.279
<v Speaker 2>to ground and have some insight and disconnect from all

590
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 2>those kind of false realities collapse, Those timelines. That's something

591
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I help people with.

592
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, so and but okay, so the age regressions,

593
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:50.559
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm specifically wondering what you mean by healing

594
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.799
<v Speaker 1>from the oh yeah diression. Yeah.

595
00:32:53.839 --> 00:33:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, there are some distortions of the physical and the

596
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.480
<v Speaker 2>emotional and mental bodies that happen when someone's been age regressed.

597
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 2>In terms of concrete outward symbols, a lot of us

598
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>have autoimmune disorders. This is a very very common thing

599
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>in the SSP community because the time regression technology tends

600
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.319
<v Speaker 2>to create those things. The body has its ways of

601
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.599
<v Speaker 2>aligning to the present time continuum, and when you drag

602
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>people outside of that continuum, all sorts of untoward physical, emotional,

603
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:29.359
<v Speaker 2>mental things happen. So I guess I'm speaking to some

604
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 2>of those, particularly emotional distortions. Those are some of the

605
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:39.359
<v Speaker 2>ones that I feel particularly skilled in clearing because of

606
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:44.160
<v Speaker 2>the Ontarian connection. Basically, the ontarians, as I was saying,

607
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 2>are serving as sort of the mother archetype for this

608
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:49.640
<v Speaker 2>entire system. So I have a lot of that nurturing

609
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 2>mother energy and that comes through the Great Mother can

610
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty much heal anything on any level of experience. So

611
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>that's the primary medicine that moves through me, and it

612
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>works for all kinds of things. It doesn't it doesn't

613
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 2>have to be secret space programmed people. But it's especially

614
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>relevant when you're so dissociated and like, you know, all

615
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 2>these things just don't work to heal because you know

616
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the connections to the other timelines are not being understood

617
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 2>very well. Yeah.

618
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 1>Right, So ultimately you're helping people recover from the I

619
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:26.280
<v Speaker 1>D associated.

620
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on the more local level of consciousness, yes, the

621
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:35.559
<v Speaker 2>I D is a big one. Most the things I've

622
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.079
<v Speaker 2>been talking about so far are are well beyond d

623
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I D. But yes, also even if someone just has

624
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:49.199
<v Speaker 2>just just has ritual abuse and one timeline of experience

625
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and has d I D, that's also something that I

626
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>help people with. Sometimes it's really hard to get help

627
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.840
<v Speaker 2>with d I D because the professional associate that deal

628
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:06.480
<v Speaker 2>with it are so infiltrated by the satanic perpetrators. I Mean,

629
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>there are some good d ID resources out there, but

630
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:12.559
<v Speaker 2>they're so careful to never talk about richual abuse. It's very,

631
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>very frustrating. But yeah, most of the time, there's a

632
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 2>very direct connection between someone having survived trauma based mind

633
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 2>control and someone having d I d I've touched on

634
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>this in some of my other interviews a little bit,

635
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.280
<v Speaker 2>and I'm happy to go more into that if it

636
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>feels alive.

637
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I just more or less. I think you

638
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 1>answered it fairly enough. But I want to also touch

639
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 1>on something you just said, people having I guess physical

640
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 1>ailments that are directly related to the programs or a

641
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 1>result of an age regression, which I think we know

642
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>what just happened with James Rink and that's very sad,

643
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 1>but I think that's a perfect example of somebody who

644
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.159
<v Speaker 1>has gone through that and the physical ailments. You know,

645
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.519
<v Speaker 1>there's a byproduct of his time in the programs, and

646
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't consider that enough because we're over

647
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.880
<v Speaker 1>here trying to heal ourselves right and not understanding the

648
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 1>root cause. So we're having no luck. In many cases,

649
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 1>people don't understand why they can't overcome something, but that's

650
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>because they've literally been disconnected from the root cause of that,

651
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>which might have happened on another timeline, or it might

652
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>be a result from an age regression. Technology sometime we

653
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.079
<v Speaker 1>don't consider and it makes so much sense, it makes

654
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>so much sense.

655
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Or even the super soldier aspects, I would imagine that

656
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:34.599
<v Speaker 3>would take a massive toll maybe as well.

657
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Definitely. Yeah, I mean they juice you up really really

658
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:43.360
<v Speaker 2>badly when you're in those programs. I mean you're on

659
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.880
<v Speaker 2>so many like steroids and stimulants and like all kinds

660
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 2>of intoxicants, and then like people present with these things

661
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.239
<v Speaker 2>in their bodies and they're like, well, I've never used

662
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>steroids in this lifetime, but right, obviously there's some there's

663
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 2>some bleed through from these other their experiences.

664
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

665
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, And I think that that's also a

666
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>great point, Like you have things in your body, like

667
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>many abductees will have radiation poison, but they've never been

668
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 1>as exposed to radiation. Like this makes no sense. Yeah,

669
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's just, like I guess, an the easier way

670
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>to understand it, because that's that's something that's very I

671
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>guess it's been tracked. I mean, it's been documented. I

672
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 1>guess you could say many people have had including myself.

673
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I've woken up with basically radiation sickness.

674
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 2>And yes, I have died from radiation burns many times, unfortunately,

675
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and I've been put in the regen tank. If they

676
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 2>have enough of your brain stem left, they can put

677
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 2>you in the regen tank. I've also just been regressed

678
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 2>out of some of those death experiences and starting all

679
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>over again as a toddler. So yeah, unfortunately, I know

680
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.559
<v Speaker 2>how that feels. So I used to have recurring dreams

681
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:02.400
<v Speaker 2>of dying of radiation point, like over and over again,

682
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.519
<v Speaker 2>and it took me a very long time to understand, like, oh,

683
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that's like part of my literal life, and I want

684
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:08.760
<v Speaker 2>to integrate that.

685
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Yeah, So you at the beginning you said

686
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.119
<v Speaker 1>there's two versions of you, one born in nineteen seventy

687
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 1>and the other one in eighty six. But that would

688
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 1>technically mean that your actual first or this incarnation on

689
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.559
<v Speaker 1>earth that when we're talking now, technically happened in nineteen

690
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy and then it just got sucked right back into

691
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.800
<v Speaker 1>eighty six. So that would make you fifteen years sixteen

692
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.159
<v Speaker 1>years older than you actually are.

693
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's basically true. Although this is not the original body,

694
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:42.880
<v Speaker 2>this is the second body.

695
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, So I'm saying, like, I think

696
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that happens more than we realize, because like you feel

697
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>like an old soul and a young body. Yes, And

698
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm only saying this because this is what has

699
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 1>been brought up to my attention session that I had

700
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.039
<v Speaker 1>one time that I was I incarnated. My first incarnation

701
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 1>on earth occurred in Venice, Florida in nineteen sixty six,

702
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 1>and then I was whatever taken into this program for

703
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty years, and at the end of that twenty years,

704
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>instead of coming back, I went into another body, which

705
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 1>was my mother gave birth to And it's like really confusing,

706
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.800
<v Speaker 1>but in a way it made so much sense to

707
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>me because I've always felt like, literally like twenty years older.

708
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:31.039
<v Speaker 1>All my friends are older than I am, they always

709
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>have been, you know, you just kind of you have

710
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.119
<v Speaker 1>this wisdom that people your age don't typically have, and

711
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:41.800
<v Speaker 1>so I think it just having discussions about things like

712
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 1>that being possible might help somebody who's listening to this

713
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:48.559
<v Speaker 1>understand and maybe they won't feel so crazy for being

714
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a specific way, you know.

715
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, yeah, I do feel mentally more like my original age,

716
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 2>which would be about fifty six.

717
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, And then how does your body feel? Does

718
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:04.280
<v Speaker 1>your body feel like fifty six? Because that's what I

719
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:04.880
<v Speaker 1>deal with.

720
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm so grateful for this body. It's been so

721
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:12.519
<v Speaker 2>forgiving of so many horrible things, and my guides have

722
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:19.519
<v Speaker 2>intervened on many levels with this body. So basically they

723
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:21.880
<v Speaker 2>my guides, have told me that I would be in

724
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 2>terrible shape if it wasn't for their ongoing support, So

725
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 2>I do rely on their support. They've worked miracles with

726
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:32.840
<v Speaker 2>this body, and I'm very grateful for that. So most

727
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 2>days it does feel like the birth certificate age, which

728
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 2>is thirty eight, thirty nine something like that. Right now,

729
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:42.199
<v Speaker 2>I mostly.

730
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Feel like that.

731
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Of course, you know, part of the journey of maturity

732
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 2>is that you're always getting into your full power, and

733
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.239
<v Speaker 2>your life force increases as you age. You know, if

734
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:58.079
<v Speaker 2>you're aging with consciousness, your life force increases, and it's

735
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.280
<v Speaker 2>possible that the body can can hold a lot more

736
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 2>life force as you age, So it's kind of the

737
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.440
<v Speaker 2>opposite of the usual aging paradigm.

738
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have a lot more control over that once

739
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you have that awareness, and like you mentioned when you

740
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:16.400
<v Speaker 1>sent me, consciousness blending, so it's also understanding that, like

741
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:18.800
<v Speaker 1>there's other aspects of you that need to be integrated,

742
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:22.639
<v Speaker 1>and having that understanding can help you stay youthful.

743
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it helps very much, and sometimes it's especially helpful

744
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:31.440
<v Speaker 2>ford ID systems because usually when we have that experience.

745
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Most of those altars are going to be pretty young,

746
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, even if they're presenting as adults. Like nine

747
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 2>times out of ten when I go into a certain

748
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>altar and the person is like, oh, I think that

749
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.159
<v Speaker 2>person's an adult. Almost all the time when we go

750
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.440
<v Speaker 2>into it, it's actually a child and it needs to

751
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>be related to as a child. So it can be

752
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:58.719
<v Speaker 2>very helpful ford ID systems to remember the transcendence of age,

753
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 2>and it helps us respect ourselves as survivors because those

754
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:07.320
<v Speaker 2>parts are just they're they're a lot younger than they appear, right,

755
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 2>And that's especially true in the in the space programs

756
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 2>when you've been age progressed, you know, because you can

757
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 2>be age progressed going the other way, made older, and

758
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:21.280
<v Speaker 2>you're basically operating with the child's degree of emotional maturity

759
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:23.960
<v Speaker 2>in a body that's like a fully mature adult.

760
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>So there's actually Andrew Bishago I think has the best

761
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:33.360
<v Speaker 1>testimony of age progression. He describes it well. He isn't

762
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>very he's articulate anyway, and he has an incredible memory,

763
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 1>but he's experienced age progression and he was, in fact

764
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:45.199
<v Speaker 1>whenever they were I guess experimenting on him with that technology.

765
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>They put him in a room with like children's books

766
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, but he was an adult because

767
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 1>they had to like the mind had to catch up, right, Yeah,

768
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>And they did that because he had to I guess,

769
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:58.280
<v Speaker 1>go through you know, the Montoc time Tunnel or whatever

770
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 1>it was, wherever they were sending him with whatever time

771
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 1>travel technology they had. That he had to be an

772
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:07.599
<v Speaker 1>adult for that mission, right to fit in or blend in.

773
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:11.079
<v Speaker 1>So he has a really really interesting testimony surrounding that,

774
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 1>and I don't I hardly hear people talk about age progression. Yeah,

775
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>so I'm glad I brought you up. Yeah.

776
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I also went through that experience on a few occasions,

777
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:27.840
<v Speaker 2>mostly in clone bodies. So I've also had experiences outside

778
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.840
<v Speaker 2>of the two people that I've mentioned, where my consciousness

779
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.639
<v Speaker 2>was moved into clone bodies and those get age progressed

780
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>really quickly, you know, because they basically they need to

781
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.440
<v Speaker 2>turn an infant into a soldier, like very very fast,

782
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.880
<v Speaker 2>so they'll do It's very common with clone bodies to

783
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 2>do that. Progression can be even more debilitating than regression sometimes,

784
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.159
<v Speaker 2>but with clone bodies, they don't care, you know, whenever

785
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.079
<v Speaker 2>that clone dies, they might regent it, or they might

786
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 2>just put you back in your organic body, so they

787
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>don't really care what's happening on more subtle levels.

788
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Yeah, we did a webinar and cloning, and

789
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that was talked about that you know your age progress,

790
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody the age twenty right, and in fact it creates

791
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a specific type of anger and anxiety within that being

792
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:18.559
<v Speaker 1>which makes them more susceptible to your mind control and

793
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>become they want to be a soldier because they're angry

794
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and they'll fight, they'll fight.

795
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:27.519
<v Speaker 2>For you, Yes, exactly. They they really, the perpetrators really

796
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 2>value people in anybody that are in an adrenalized state

797
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 2>already and have emotions that are easily turned against this,

798
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 2>against the person manipulated. Yeah, that's just they eat that up.

799
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so how much of you, how much of this

800
00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:48.639
<v Speaker 1>would you say, is you in this lifetime healing ancestral

801
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>karma or or ancestral just healing and ancral lineage?

802
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Definitely some of this is for my biological lineage because

803
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:02.320
<v Speaker 2>they did go down such dark pathways. They've been Satanists

804
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 2>for a very long time. My biological ancestors a long

805
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>time ago, they were Jewish, they converted to Catholicism in

806
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the Middle Ages, but you know, they've had a front

807
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:16.800
<v Speaker 2>religion the whole time. But basically they've been Luciferian Satanists,

808
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>like going back for a very long time. So there

809
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.599
<v Speaker 2>is a lot of personal family karma to clear and

810
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>that is part of the mission here. I do a

811
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:29.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of that on my own. Some of my ancestors

812
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:35.639
<v Speaker 2>are helpful. Sometimes my ancestors are on their own healing journeys,

813
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:40.320
<v Speaker 2>which I which I judge to be slower than mine. Uh,

814
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:43.960
<v Speaker 2>but they but they do continue. You know, we're all

815
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 2>going towards the light in one way or another.

816
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and interestingly enough, I don't know if you there

817
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:50.239
<v Speaker 1>it is again.

818
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:55.559
<v Speaker 3>I've seen more than that. Yes, there's been a bunch.

819
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.760
<v Speaker 1>And they're very prominent. Yeah, it could be like well

820
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned earlier, there's another one, another one just yeah,

821
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 1>just they just showed up and they you know, these

822
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>higher dimensional beings. They're everywhere on your screen. Yeah, they

823
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>as orbs. It could be wow, highway just open up

824
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and can you stand them on your screen? Yeah? Oh yeah, no,

825
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean Elandra.

826
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I'm not I'm not seeing them physically, I can

827
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I can sense them though, yeaheah.

828
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's wild. Like when you watch this replay,

829
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:28.320
<v Speaker 1>you have to whatever min in Mark we're at we

830
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 1>you have to you should Okay, you should check that out. No,

831
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:36.159
<v Speaker 1>because I think I think this what everybody coming forward

832
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:39.199
<v Speaker 1>now with these memories and sharing their stories or whatever.

833
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a sign of the times that this

834
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:45.639
<v Speaker 1>planet is experiencing a massive shift because it seems that

835
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>everyone in this incarnation is here to end a cycle.

836
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 1>There's another orb they're just flying around there crazy, but

837
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.559
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're here to end that karmic cycle. Right,

838
00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:59.639
<v Speaker 1>It's been going on generation after generation and then where

839
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:03.079
<v Speaker 1>the green that chose to incarnate to break free? And

840
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's self evident at this point if you

841
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.679
<v Speaker 1>listen to all these testimonies, why now, Why in this

842
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>era and not so much before. Maybe certain people were

843
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:14.599
<v Speaker 1>breaking out earlier, but right now that's the theme.

844
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yeah, we on Earth are resolving the karma of

845
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:23.400
<v Speaker 2>many times in places, many nations, many locations. A lot

846
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 2>of us who have the Secret Space Program experience are

847
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:32.239
<v Speaker 2>resolving millennia of societal conflict from Orion, from the Orion Wars,

848
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, from the Lyron Wars, we're metabolizing that through

849
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.920
<v Speaker 2>this present lifetime, through our present bodies. Like this is

850
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.079
<v Speaker 2>massive collective stuff that's going on through each of us individually.

851
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, which is why things are so intense mm

852
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 3>hmm on this play right now. It makes sense.

853
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it really does. And what is your opinion,

854
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, zooming out and looking at the world stage

855
00:47:57.239 --> 00:47:59.559
<v Speaker 1>right now and where we're at, Like a lot of

856
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:02.679
<v Speaker 1>people believe that we're you know, entering into this higher

857
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>timeline you can call the Golden Age or whatever. But

858
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>then there's the other side of that coin where people

859
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.519
<v Speaker 1>think our ascension. Yeah, then there's the other side of

860
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 1>that coin where people are mistaking the chaos for darkness

861
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and doom and gloom.

862
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 3>New world order enslavement and we're all screwed no matter what.

863
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's a valid it's a valid perspective to have,

864
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 1>especially if you don't really if you're not having discussions

865
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:30.320
<v Speaker 1>like this, which requires an understanding that most people don't have, unfortunately,

866
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:33.840
<v Speaker 1>because we've just been born into this program with amnesia.

867
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:37.239
<v Speaker 1>So what do you see occurring right now? Do you

868
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>really think we are on this ascension timeline?

869
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:40.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

870
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's all true, Yes, it's all of the above, Yeah.

871
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>All of the above. Please.

872
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a very hopeful time, and it's still a

873
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.519
<v Speaker 2>very very dark time, you know, like we're being dragged

874
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 2>down into just the depths of depravity by the whole

875
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:05.079
<v Speaker 2>just you know, nsay Facebook complex of things, which is

876
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:09.400
<v Speaker 2>just like the dragging people into the dumbest possible version

877
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:14.039
<v Speaker 2>of humanity, like that stuff that's obviously happening. At the

878
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.960
<v Speaker 2>same time, people are more and more resistant to manipulation

879
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 2>and more and more in touch with their true spirit bodies.

880
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so many people are just spontaneously waking up

881
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:29.760
<v Speaker 2>now without any you know, traditional spiritual practice. They're just like, well, okay,

882
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.880
<v Speaker 2>wake up one morning and realize, oh, I'm having a

883
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:38.280
<v Speaker 2>parallel experience in the Seria system. Oh wow, right, or

884
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.440
<v Speaker 2>they're you know, they're getting there however they get there,

885
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:45.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe plant medicine or whatever works for people. But I'm

886
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:49.159
<v Speaker 2>seeing a lot more of that, which is very very encouraging.

887
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:51.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, the more of us that are tuned in

888
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and turned on, the more we can resist the death

889
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:58.280
<v Speaker 2>agenda and the Instagram agenda, which just like you know,

890
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:01.719
<v Speaker 2>move into our sovereignty and our free So yeah, that's

891
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:03.159
<v Speaker 2>my version of all of the above.

892
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and real quick, I'm want to say, I think,

893
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:12.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, I get I totally get the it's you know,

894
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.239
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like the truth or general mindset of

895
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 3>they're only looking at information and things look really scary

896
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:20.760
<v Speaker 3>from that level. And I get it. And I was

897
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 3>more there years ago, and I until you have a

898
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 3>greater perspective, like everything you're talking about in a more spiritual,

899
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.119
<v Speaker 3>grounded state of being in perspective, you're not really going

900
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 3>to understand there of what's going on, right, and it's

901
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 3>going to look really scary. And I get why they

902
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 3>can you know, you're like, oh my god, we're all

903
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:42.760
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing you can do. They have all the power

904
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 3>and we're just and it's like, well, actually, I think

905
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 3>it's the exact opposite. I think we have all the power,

906
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:50.239
<v Speaker 3>but you got to tap into that. And that's what

907
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.239
<v Speaker 3>the awakening in the Ascension is is like we are

908
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:55.440
<v Speaker 3>coming online naturally and organically, and there's going to be

909
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 3>a certain point where, you know, and right now we're

910
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.079
<v Speaker 3>on the chaotic phase of the turmoil and chaos of

911
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.239
<v Speaker 3>the transition from the old to the new, and the

912
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:08.840
<v Speaker 3>old's trying to hang on for dear life, and then

913
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.000
<v Speaker 3>people's karmos are playing out and everyone's getting triggered, and

914
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:13.960
<v Speaker 3>there's all this stuff happening all at the same time,

915
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.239
<v Speaker 3>which is why it's so intense. But ultimately, we have

916
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.199
<v Speaker 3>all the power, and we are creating We are creating reality.

917
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:21.480
<v Speaker 3>We are co creating it. Yes, we just have to

918
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 3>wake up and do that consciously instead of being manipulated

919
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.880
<v Speaker 3>to create someone else's reality. That doesn't serve us, right.

920
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.360
<v Speaker 3>So that's the hope I have is that the more

921
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.280
<v Speaker 3>and more things, the farther we go, the more the

922
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:35.199
<v Speaker 3>marketing is going to go along, and the more we're

923
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.400
<v Speaker 3>going to naturally start creating a reality we actually want

924
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.719
<v Speaker 3>to create, and then it's going to be one that

925
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:41.880
<v Speaker 3>serves everyone. And that's a lot more beautiful.

926
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Amen a women, Yeah, you know, And that's like a

927
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>great reminder too. You know, if we are that much

928
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 1>in control of our reality, then why aren't we much

929
00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:00.480
<v Speaker 1>more intentional about where we put our focus and what

930
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:03.719
<v Speaker 1>choices we make every day as far as our diet

931
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 1>meaning everything food, our social media, television, who you hang

932
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 1>out with, you know, And I'm talking to myself here too,

933
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:14.599
<v Speaker 1>because we sometimes we all kind of we aren't so

934
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:17.039
<v Speaker 1>intentional with the things that we do, and we find

935
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:20.320
<v Speaker 1>ourselves slipping into an autopilot mode or something and we're

936
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.639
<v Speaker 1>just kind of going through the motions. But if you

937
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll find ourselves in a situation like, man,

938
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:26.880
<v Speaker 1>how did this happen to me? Well, you know, at

939
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 1>some point along the line, you made an unconscious choice

940
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:33.199
<v Speaker 1>to do something that wasn't your serving your highest timeline.

941
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I think being self aware, like hyper

942
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.920
<v Speaker 1>self aware right now about everything you do, even every

943
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>thought that you have, can actually help manifest the reality

944
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.599
<v Speaker 1>that you want to see. And it's actually very possible.

945
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>And most people aren't doing that, and that's not their

946
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.760
<v Speaker 1>fault because we're constantly distracted.

947
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.119
<v Speaker 3>And we prog from one to not do that. It's

948
00:52:57.119 --> 00:52:58.960
<v Speaker 3>not the easiest thing to get to there, but once

949
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.719
<v Speaker 3>you do, it's like, you know, there's a point I

950
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 3>feel like you get to in your growth, in your

951
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:06.960
<v Speaker 3>awakening where suddenly you're you're enough in your sovereignty you

952
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 3>can't really be manipulated in the same way where I

953
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:13.280
<v Speaker 3>see a lot of people getting to that point more

954
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:16.159
<v Speaker 3>than I've ever I mean, I feel like, you know,

955
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I call my awakening. I happened in twenty twelve, but

956
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:21.320
<v Speaker 3>like it was years after that where I feel like

957
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I got to that point where I really grew enough

958
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:29.800
<v Speaker 3>spiritually and to where I'm like, Okay, I get it now,

959
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I get what's going on here, and I think

960
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.599
<v Speaker 3>I get why I'm here, you know, right, Yeah, fe

961
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:37.320
<v Speaker 3>like more and more people are getting there.

962
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:40.840
<v Speaker 2>This might be a good moment to mention that I

963
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.840
<v Speaker 2>host meditation groups and the group vibe is really great.

964
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:47.639
<v Speaker 2>I have a really good time with it. I love

965
00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:49.480
<v Speaker 2>the people that show up. We do a lot of

966
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:53.599
<v Speaker 2>good light work, a lot of good healing, and my

967
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:57.760
<v Speaker 2>part of it is basically guided meditation with my whole council.

968
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:00.559
<v Speaker 2>So sometimes it's me talking and sometimes it's the other

969
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:05.880
<v Speaker 2>higher aspects talking. But yeah, those are gatherings that really

970
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:09.400
<v Speaker 2>nourish me and I hope nourish other people. Yeah, and

971
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I just want to mention those.

972
00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well yeah that's important too. I mean, so yeah,

973
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:17.880
<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit more about what you do as

974
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 1>far as helping people here. I know we talked about

975
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.400
<v Speaker 1>it earlier, but like you do these meditations and all

976
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, like what like you today? This has obviously

977
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 1>everything that you've gone through has shaped you into the

978
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>person we're talking to, and what you have to offer

979
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>now is directly a result of your experience. And I

980
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>think that's huge because it's a perfect example, and you're

981
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>showing people like listen, like you can play victim to

982
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:43.920
<v Speaker 1>this and perpetuate it, or you can like find a

983
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 1>way out and help people. So I guess give us

984
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>a little more of a well rounded pick oh idea

985
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:52.000
<v Speaker 1>of what you do? Oh?

986
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Sure, well, A lot of a lot of what I

987
00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:57.880
<v Speaker 2>do is based in storytelling. A lot of my Earth

988
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:02.079
<v Speaker 2>incarnations have been as a storytell Most cultures have this

989
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:06.280
<v Speaker 2>role in a more direct, obvious way. Of course, this

990
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:08.559
<v Speaker 2>is what we're all three of us doing in a

991
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:12.760
<v Speaker 2>way here. But I've had a lot of lifetimes where

992
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I was the village storyteller and I would go around

993
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:18.760
<v Speaker 2>and you know, spinning yarn for people. Other lifetimes where

994
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I was the shaman figure and I had my hut

995
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.199
<v Speaker 2>outside the village and people would come from the village

996
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 2>to get spirit medicine or whatever. I just bring those

997
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.280
<v Speaker 2>things up because those go into what I'm presently doing.

998
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:35.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a storytelling exercise. It's also a shamanic exercise, and

999
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:40.719
<v Speaker 2>we have different levels of perception and assistance going on.

1000
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:44.840
<v Speaker 2>The Ontarians are the highest level that I have consistent

1001
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:47.440
<v Speaker 2>access to. There are many many higher levels. I'm not

1002
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:51.920
<v Speaker 2>placing any limitation on it, but often the Ontarians are

1003
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:56.679
<v Speaker 2>working through me. They are again in divine feminine consciousness,

1004
00:55:56.719 --> 00:55:59.760
<v Speaker 2>so it's got us awareness in a very direct sense.

1005
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:04.320
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the pillars of what I'm offering, which

1006
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 2>is also alignment with Gaya. Gaia is our local goddess,

1007
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:11.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, of our human experience, the most obvious goddess

1008
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:15.840
<v Speaker 2>that we owe our entire lives too. So those are

1009
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:20.920
<v Speaker 2>the two main kind of entry points into a greater

1010
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:25.199
<v Speaker 2>story and entrance into spirit that I use kind of

1011
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:28.360
<v Speaker 2>from the eighth dimensional goddess level, and then from the

1012
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 2>ground up from the Gaya goddess level. That's my main

1013
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:37.239
<v Speaker 2>inspiration and my main service. And then within that points

1014
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 2>in between, lots of stuff comes up. We work with dragons,

1015
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:45.280
<v Speaker 2>we work with angels, we work with all sorts of

1016
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:49.440
<v Speaker 2>other et beings. I have a very strong Syrian presence

1017
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:53.599
<v Speaker 2>who comes through quite a lot more six density Syrian presence,

1018
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 2>and we work on those in between levels, you know,

1019
00:56:57.239 --> 00:56:59.119
<v Speaker 2>for D five d levels.

1020
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Also, Yeah, and you must be doing something right because

1021
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I've

1022
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:05.519
<v Speaker 1>seen at least one hundred orbs or more.

1023
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:11.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just they're just increasing in frequency now, Like.

1024
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:14.840
<v Speaker 1>It's extremely it's very impressive. Like we don't see this

1025
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:19.519
<v Speaker 1>very often, not that many. Yeah, it's happened before, you know, occasionally,

1026
00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:22.280
<v Speaker 1>But you're I mean, there's something going on around you

1027
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:27.880
<v Speaker 1>right now that is very interesting, multi dimensional for sure,

1028
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:31.320
<v Speaker 1>which could be the these groups of these beings that

1029
00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about, your guides, Like they could just be

1030
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>here like supporting and showing themselves. Like okay, Like I

1031
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:39.559
<v Speaker 1>feel like this is what the future looks like. We

1032
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:41.599
<v Speaker 1>talk about these things for so long, and now we're

1033
00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:44.480
<v Speaker 1>going to literally start gaining more evidence of they're going

1034
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:48.599
<v Speaker 1>to be more tangible, more perceivable. This way, it's not

1035
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 1>such a stretch to believe what you're talking about because

1036
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 1>the actual evidence is literally floating around behind.

1037
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 3>You while you're talking, right, literally floating.

1038
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.480
<v Speaker 2>That definitely helps.

1039
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, but do you agree with that, Like we're

1040
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:09.760
<v Speaker 1>like like these antarians like showing up in physical form.

1041
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 1>We say, it takes a lot for them to do, so.

1042
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:12.599
<v Speaker 3>It does well.

1043
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:13.280
<v Speaker 1>The orbs.

1044
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:16.000
<v Speaker 2>The orbs are pretty low effort. Any anybody can do

1045
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:18.800
<v Speaker 2>an ORB, you know. It's just like, oh, here's here's

1046
00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 2>something in your visual field to make you feel more valid,

1047
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Like that's that's one of the easiest manifestations around. So yeah,

1048
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:28.920
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's the ontarians, sometimes it's other ones.

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00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So do you think the ORB is them projecting

1050
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:36.199
<v Speaker 1>their consciousness or what is that? Or is it mercabo

1051
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:37.599
<v Speaker 1>traveling light body?

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00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's those things. I'd say the most common is

1053
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:46.840
<v Speaker 2>they're just stimulating the fabric of our visual space time

1054
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:49.840
<v Speaker 2>so that it's glowing, Like they're just like making our

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00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:52.679
<v Speaker 2>reality sparkle a little bit, is the most common one.

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00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:55.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

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00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 2>But then but then obviously there are much more involved

1058
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.800
<v Speaker 2>visitations where you might have like a full on Maricaba

1059
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:02.960
<v Speaker 2>form or something like that.

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00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Like you're saying, yeah, and I have heard many experiencers

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00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:10.960
<v Speaker 3>or contactees or whatever say that the being first came

1062
00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:13.000
<v Speaker 3>to them in an ORB and then it transformed from

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00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.920
<v Speaker 3>an ORB to a being and then back to an

1064
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:18.360
<v Speaker 3>orb and fluid you know. Yeah, yeah, so I've heard

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00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:20.119
<v Speaker 3>that many times. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you said the easiest thing form to manifest. So

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00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:27.199
<v Speaker 1>the way I perceive it is even like I always

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00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:30.159
<v Speaker 1>wonder even if a remote viewer is creating an ORB

1069
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.199
<v Speaker 1>whenever they project their consciousness to our location, and somebody

1070
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:37.199
<v Speaker 1>in that room could literally identify an ORB that is

1071
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:39.599
<v Speaker 1>your consciousness remote bearing is do Do you think that's how

1072
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:40.039
<v Speaker 1>it works?

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00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Sometimes it works like that. Yeah, I mean, the

1074
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 2>astral body is way more fluid than the physical body.

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00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:49.159
<v Speaker 2>It can take many forms. A point it could be

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00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a point of light, or it could be a fly

1077
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:54.679
<v Speaker 2>buzzing around the room. You know, there's really no limitation

1078
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:58.519
<v Speaker 2>on that. But yeah, I think I think a point

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00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:01.519
<v Speaker 2>of light is just one of the most practical, universal

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01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:03.760
<v Speaker 2>applications of consciousness that exists.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, no, it's it's absolutely fascinating. I'm still kind

1082
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:13.800
<v Speaker 1>of getting distracted by these orbs, but yeah, well, you know,

1083
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:16.639
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's so cool. But I don't know, it's

1084
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:18.320
<v Speaker 1>just something that you don't see every day. I know

1085
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:20.440
<v Speaker 1>happens all the time, but to capture it on a

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01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.280
<v Speaker 1>camera like this, it's just really cool. So I hope

1087
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.719
<v Speaker 1>everyone watching, if you're listening to the audio version that

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01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:28.599
<v Speaker 1>has come tune in because it's really something to see honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, so as far as okay, this is you

1090
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.840
<v Speaker 1>brought up the astral body and stuff. And something that

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01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I noticed especially that has been prominent in my journey

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01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:43.079
<v Speaker 1>is dream warfare, right yeah, And what can happen in

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01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.639
<v Speaker 1>the dream state? Are these dream societies is a new

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01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:48.400
<v Speaker 1>one I've heard. So it's like these secret societies that

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01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:51.840
<v Speaker 1>are in the astronom or the dream world. Have you

1096
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.079
<v Speaker 1>encountered a lot of that, And like, I think that's

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01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:56.800
<v Speaker 1>a whole other layer to this that needs to be

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01:00:56.840 --> 01:00:57.960
<v Speaker 1>taken much more seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, Yeah, dream warfare is well very often, especially with

1100
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:11.079
<v Speaker 2>SSP survivors, they're not strictly dreams, you know, they're also

1101
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 2>they're also just direct perceptions of physical events, So there's

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01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:19.679
<v Speaker 2>that aspect, and then just in a in a more

1103
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:23.280
<v Speaker 2>poetic sense, it's always good to pay attention to dreams

1104
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:26.679
<v Speaker 2>like they're they're always full of wisdom and light and

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01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.320
<v Speaker 2>power or where you're denying your self power, you know,

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01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:34.360
<v Speaker 2>they're always a window into the subconscious. Dreams are the

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01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:36.840
<v Speaker 2>most common example that I bring up if somebody asks,

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01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:40.039
<v Speaker 2>like what's fourth density? What's the next density? Dreams are

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01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.159
<v Speaker 2>the first thing that I always talk about, you know,

1110
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.440
<v Speaker 2>because it's just easy for everyone. We've all had some

1111
01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:48.119
<v Speaker 2>sort of dream and it gives us, even if we

1112
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:51.400
<v Speaker 2>have no experience with meditation or whatever, it gives us

1113
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 2>an introduction to the astral realms, which is very concrete

1114
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:57.639
<v Speaker 2>and a bit of understanding about how those realms work,

1115
01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, how things how fluid things are, and dreams.

1116
01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:06.639
<v Speaker 2>So I see those as a really useful portal and

1117
01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:10.920
<v Speaker 2>introduction to a lot of different realms. But then, yeah,

1118
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:15.280
<v Speaker 2>specifically warfare, there's a lot of warfare over our dreams. Uh,

1119
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:18.320
<v Speaker 2>there are false dreams that are given to us with

1120
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:23.639
<v Speaker 2>malicious technology. A friend of mine calls them wi Fi dreams,

1121
01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Like like she she'll always sleep with the Wi Fi

1122
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 2>off because if she if she has it on, she'll

1123
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:34.159
<v Speaker 2>like have dreams about negative zetas. Like Okay, I mean

1124
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:38.480
<v Speaker 2>not everybody is that sensitive to that stuff, obviously, but

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01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:42.239
<v Speaker 2>our dreams are fought over just as surely as these

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01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:43.639
<v Speaker 2>three D lives are fought over.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, yeah, that's really makes it. I think

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01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:51.239
<v Speaker 1>it makes perfect sense. But also I think what people

1129
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:56.280
<v Speaker 1>need to understand is it's not just always spiritual, Like

1130
01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:01.880
<v Speaker 1>there are actual corporations agencies that have technology that or

1131
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:06.039
<v Speaker 1>even psionic abilities that people can literally project themselves into

1132
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.599
<v Speaker 1>your dreams. And it doesn't mean that you're always going

1133
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:12.039
<v Speaker 1>to encounter some demonic entity or some reptilian like you

1134
01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:14.360
<v Speaker 1>could be like you're dealing with some dude in a

1135
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:18.159
<v Speaker 1>warehouse or in a basement somewhere, and like literally we

1136
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:21.519
<v Speaker 1>can have it in your dreams and therefore that translates

1137
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:24.119
<v Speaker 1>into your daily life. Therefore that weakens you and then

1138
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:30.519
<v Speaker 1>like you become more susceptible. So understanding that there's technology

1139
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:34.119
<v Speaker 1>involved too, and sometimes people call entity assisted technology. There's

1140
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:37.159
<v Speaker 1>entities working in tandem with this stuff. It's very complicated,

1141
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying this is scare anybody, but I've

1142
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:42.320
<v Speaker 1>experienced this firsthand to the point where I've had to

1143
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.239
<v Speaker 1>research it to understand what they're capable of it and

1144
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:48.880
<v Speaker 1>what this game really looks like. And it's just something

1145
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to be aware of, is all I'm trying to say.

1146
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:51.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be in fear of it. But

1147
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.239
<v Speaker 1>if you are having these experiences in the dream time

1148
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and their negative, it could be a something as simple,

1149
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:03.000
<v Speaker 1>like you said, cutting off whatever is, letting them into

1150
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.159
<v Speaker 1>your home, allowing them to do that in the first place.

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01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:09.119
<v Speaker 2>M M. Another thing I might want to bring up

1152
01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:12.280
<v Speaker 2>in case other survivors are listening. There are a lot

1153
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:15.679
<v Speaker 2>of screen dreams also, and things that come just from

1154
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:21.440
<v Speaker 2>repetition and programming in childhood and adolescence. Like personally, I've

1155
01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:25.000
<v Speaker 2>been subjected to hundreds, maybe thousands of hours of just

1156
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:30.360
<v Speaker 2>virtual reality crap and getting tortured in virtual reality and

1157
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:34.199
<v Speaker 2>also having characters from media come in to cover up

1158
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:38.400
<v Speaker 2>actual abuses. Like to this day, I will still have

1159
01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:43.119
<v Speaker 2>dreams that are totally saturated with Star Trek characters. And

1160
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:45.519
<v Speaker 2>now I know to pay attention and look beyond that

1161
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:48.000
<v Speaker 2>because that was a programming thing that was used on

1162
01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:50.280
<v Speaker 2>me when I was a kid, you know, in like

1163
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:52.760
<v Speaker 2>the late eighties and nineties, when The Next Generation was

1164
01:04:52.760 --> 01:04:56.920
<v Speaker 2>on TV, Like they would literally like give me acid

1165
01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:00.239
<v Speaker 2>and sit me down like clockwork orange style with my

1166
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:04.280
<v Speaker 2>eyelids open, like in front of marathon screenings of the

1167
01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Next Generation, and they would replace things like my actual experiences.

1168
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.360
<v Speaker 2>They would try to replace them with these downloads from

1169
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:14.280
<v Speaker 2>the show. And the show is pretty good. It's nothing

1170
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 2>against the show, no great, yeah, yeah, but like this

1171
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:20.920
<v Speaker 2>is something I became very aware of when I started

1172
01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:22.920
<v Speaker 2>to get my memories back, like I would wake up

1173
01:05:22.920 --> 01:05:26.239
<v Speaker 2>in a cold sweat, but I couldn't describe anything concrete.

1174
01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I just had a dream about Star Trek characters, right,

1175
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:32.760
<v Speaker 2>But if I meditated with it and let those false

1176
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:35.320
<v Speaker 2>images start to dissolve, I could get to the actual

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01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:38.039
<v Speaker 2>picture of what was happening and why my body was

1178
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 2>reacting so violently. So, yeah, I just want to mention

1179
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:43.880
<v Speaker 2>screen dreams and screen memories here.

1180
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, taking a deeper look through that stuff is

1181
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:50.639
<v Speaker 1>also important. I mean there's a whole other conversation that

1182
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:51.639
<v Speaker 1>I've experienced that too.

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01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:59.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, many abductees and things have screen memories, and it

1184
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:00.760
<v Speaker 3>seems like a lot of times they come from the

1185
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Earth military, the deep state military, whatever that puts that

1186
01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:10.480
<v Speaker 3>in place over their actual other et abduction or contact

1187
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:12.400
<v Speaker 3>because they don't want them. And then they're like, well,

1188
01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:14.800
<v Speaker 3>I always have this recurring dream of like an owl

1189
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.679
<v Speaker 3>or of like a something else, whatever the screen is,

1190
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:21.280
<v Speaker 3>and and it's not until they either a lot of

1191
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:25.440
<v Speaker 3>times it's from having a hypnotic regression session where they realize,

1192
01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:27.440
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, this is what actually happened.

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01:06:28.159 --> 01:06:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I've had a lot of ones like that

1194
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:34.000
<v Speaker 2>when I was a child, I had a recurring dream

1195
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:36.760
<v Speaker 2>that there were these giant Muppet characters in my living room,

1196
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:40.280
<v Speaker 2>like super recurring dream. It took it took so long

1197
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:43.199
<v Speaker 2>to like get through that and like what is that

1198
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:46.519
<v Speaker 2>hide thing? You know, just like ah, because the emotions

1199
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:49.920
<v Speaker 2>were not like, oh, muppets, you know. The emotions were

1200
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:51.480
<v Speaker 2>like horrible trauma emotions.

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01:06:52.159 --> 01:06:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it doesn't make sense until you get the

1202
01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:55.800
<v Speaker 3>real memories, yeah right.

1203
01:06:56.159 --> 01:07:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Or it's also normalizing something for your waking world, in

1204
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:03.239
<v Speaker 1>your working world as far as Muppets or Star Trek

1205
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:06.800
<v Speaker 1>or whatever that it could be used for programming in

1206
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a strange way, you know, so they normalize it if

1207
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:12.239
<v Speaker 1>you're dreaming about it and you see it, like, I

1208
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:15.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's just kind of I guess normalizing would

1209
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.199
<v Speaker 1>be the best way. So they can use that as

1210
01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a tool for manipulation or whatever it is they're trying

1211
01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:20.559
<v Speaker 1>to do.

1212
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:22.559
<v Speaker 3>But there's lots of good stuff that happens to through

1213
01:07:22.599 --> 01:07:26.000
<v Speaker 3>dreams as well. Yeah, oh yeah, so it's benevolenty contact

1214
01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:30.599
<v Speaker 3>starting to dreams or happens to dreams absolutely and your

1215
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:33.599
<v Speaker 3>guides or you know, angels or whatever. So there's definitely

1216
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:34.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot of both, I think.

1217
01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the benevolence far outweigh the benevolent the malevolence

1218
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:39.519
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, absolutely, I mean lots of premonitions and many things.

1220
01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:48.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've had beautiful experiences, and in fact, I

1221
01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:50.960
<v Speaker 1>think that you should like, yeah, I don't. Yeah, I

1222
01:07:50.960 --> 01:07:52.519
<v Speaker 1>guess this is a great point to make because I

1223
01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:54.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to discourage people not to trust their dreams,

1224
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:57.440
<v Speaker 1>because I think dreams, dreams is where are the real

1225
01:07:57.559 --> 01:07:59.719
<v Speaker 1>That's the real stuff. You know, that's where you get

1226
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the real information. So absolutely trust it, but just know

1227
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that you know there's just aware, just be aware. You know,

1228
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:08.639
<v Speaker 1>we got a whole audience of ets. It's such a

1229
01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:12.559
<v Speaker 1>distracting thing trying to literally right now and then tire

1230
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:15.960
<v Speaker 1>audience beings like I can't believe it. I'm still like

1231
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:17.039
<v Speaker 1>it at all.

1232
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh, I should say my my team and I

1233
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:24.399
<v Speaker 2>are very available to work with people and to work

1234
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:29.880
<v Speaker 2>with people in dreams specifically or just any time. But

1235
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.640
<v Speaker 2>but I am known to materialize in people's dreams to

1236
01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:37.199
<v Speaker 2>do different light light work things. I'm usually not conscious

1237
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:40.279
<v Speaker 2>personally of what they are, but it's almost always something

1238
01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:44.119
<v Speaker 2>really good. So I just want to say, I'm very

1239
01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:44.880
<v Speaker 2>available for that.

1240
01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:49.439
<v Speaker 1>How much? Yeah, that's and that's great. How much of this?

1241
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:52.840
<v Speaker 1>How many people have you come across where you they're

1242
01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:56.840
<v Speaker 1>like really struggling, but you realize that a curse has

1243
01:08:56.880 --> 01:08:59.159
<v Speaker 1>been put on them? Is that something that comes up?

1244
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that happens. Yeah, most of the time with my clients,

1245
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:14.399
<v Speaker 2>it goes back to some sort of trauma based mind

1246
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:16.640
<v Speaker 2>control thing most of the time.

1247
01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:17.359
<v Speaker 3>Not always.

1248
01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:21.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, there are curses that are just placed by individuals,

1249
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:24.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, that are just out there. More organic curse

1250
01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:28.359
<v Speaker 2>work is definitely a thing. But in my case with

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<v Speaker 2>my clients, typically when they start out talking about a curse,

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<v Speaker 2>usually it leads directly into some trauma based mind control recovery.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's interpreted as a curse. Yeah, I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes sense, right, Well, is there something that

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<v Speaker 1>comes up a lot? And I do think that even

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<v Speaker 1>like black magic, that's what that is, right, And like

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, yeah, people can even unconsciously curse somebody

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<v Speaker 1>without even understanding what they're doing with right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Yeah, yeah, but for but for a curse

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<v Speaker 2>to really stick, it's got to have a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more dis intention in it. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 2>was curious. It's something that came up with somebody in

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<v Speaker 2>my life, and I just thoughted asking you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure in your sessions.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're always happy to remove curses. This is uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's part of our bread and butter activity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I might have this person reach out to you

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<v Speaker 1>directly after this, because they're looking right now, so cool,

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<v Speaker 1>look looking for some help. So this has been This

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<v Speaker 1>is a deep conversation. I mean it's quantum. We went

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<v Speaker 1>out there. I mean we just dove straight in and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this isn't for the beginner, but that's perfectly okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you made this far into the episode and

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to this, you know, we appreciate you sticking around.

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<v Speaker 1>You amazing, this is yeah, you're amazing. This is some

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<v Speaker 1>really deep stuff that we're covering. And it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>understand the things that we're bringing up like in a

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<v Speaker 1>linear way, for one, because right off the bat, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about parallel lives and born in seventy and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six and two aspects of even body in the

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<v Speaker 1>same avatar and all stuff, people are like whoa, whoa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all these programs and abductions and all these things dream

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<v Speaker 1>warfare and curasies. It's it sounds very over the top,

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming and confusing, but it's the reality of the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>and until you start understanding the complexity of it, then

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only time. That's when you can rise above it,

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to know what you're up against. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we came here for this spiritual war to participate in this,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only way to really take down your enemy

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<v Speaker 1>is to know your enemy, right, not that we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to take them down, because they're going to do that

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<v Speaker 1>to themselves, but to rise above it, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're what they're capable of. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>your orbs in the background are literally proof that, like

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<v Speaker 1>your guides are with us all the time, and like

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<v Speaker 1>your star family and everything they're they're around, and there's equally,

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<v Speaker 1>if not more, positive things that you can tap into.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that the dark seems more apparent because it's

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<v Speaker 1>being exposed right now, and they're doubling down because they're

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<v Speaker 1>losing their grip and we know all that. So are

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<v Speaker 1>there any final words you'd like to leave us with

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<v Speaker 1>before we wrap up today?

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<v Speaker 2>We are also loved. Love is the most infinite force

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<v Speaker 2>in all creation. Everything is grounded in love. We are

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<v Speaker 2>here because of love. All of the evil that we

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<v Speaker 2>experience is just a fractal of love. Everything goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to that beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely beautiful, absolutely spot on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah simple, it's just that simple. And let our audience

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<v Speaker 1>know how they can find you. Your website and all this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well, Ontarian Journeys A N T A R

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<v Speaker 2>E A N journeys dot com is my spirit work site.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a YouTube channel. Some of my meditations are

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<v Speaker 2>on there, and that's just my name. YouTube dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>slash a laundro Markman all one word like it's on

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<v Speaker 2>the screen. Those are the main places. I have some

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<v Speaker 2>other projects, cooking. I have a lot of side projects,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know if they're so relevant to the

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<v Speaker 2>consciousness conversation. I write poetry on a portable typewriter. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a website for that poetry upon request. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a video game channel. I've got different things nice, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but mainly Ontarian journeys dot com and my YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah great, and you'll have to send me over those

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<v Speaker 1>links and we'll put everything below. And yeah, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us today. This has been great

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<v Speaker 1>and make you for having me. I hope the audience

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this. I hope you know everyone here, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here. We can't do this without you. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd like to join us in Hawaii, there's still

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<v Speaker 1>tickets available. We'd love to have you there. Journey Thetruth

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<v Speaker 1>Dot online and until next time, have a great evening,

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<v Speaker 1>good night. We love you. Hey guys, Journey the Truth

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<v Speaker 1>is going to Hawaii. Join us in twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>for Journey the Truth's first every Vacation conference on the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Island at the beautiful Queen Emma Community Center in Kona.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy Hawaii as we travel the sacred sites and connect

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<v Speaker 1>with our murion past and reactivate the land. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>to get our bodies moving and take a boots on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground approach to the Awakening. We'll also be making

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<v Speaker 1>a trip to Volcano National Park to pay our respect

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<v Speaker 1>to Peley that got us a fire. We'll then journey

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<v Speaker 1>to the water for an ocean adventure with our multi

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<v Speaker 1>dimensional aquatic family. We'll gear up and head to the

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<v Speaker 1>harbor as we set sail under the sun for an

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<v Speaker 1>activating day on the water. While we experience the Hawaiian

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<v Speaker 1>ocean life like never before. Enjoy Hawaiian sunsets and walks

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<v Speaker 1>on the beachs, while connecting the soul family and learning

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<v Speaker 1>a few things from our amazing lineup of speakers. Grab

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