WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.120 --> 00:00:05.320 It's time for coffee and company. 2 00:00:05.559 --> 00:00:09.960 Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety Holy. 3 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:11.519 Crap, I don't know who the hell we think when 4 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:14.480 we are get off our show, idiot. 5 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:17.000 The kids are playing or tail off. The countries are 6 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:20.039 screwing it up. Gold play inter murals, Brother, gold play 7 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:23.679 inter Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're 8 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:25.839 really not. Who's the kid here? 9 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:27.760 Who's the kid here? 10 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:38.840 Are you kidding me? Now? Here's nick coffee. 11 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:43.200 I'm not sure how many there are, but there's certainly 12 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:44.560 a few, and this is one of them. What I 13 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:46.799 mean is one of those days that everybody just feels 14 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.479 like should be a national holiday and we shouldn't have 15 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:53.600 to have our normal Monday routine when you have an 16 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:56.039 event such as big as the super Bowl, you know, 17 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:59.719 taking place on a Sunday evening. And while I agree 18 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:01.439 with you, in fact, I know a lot of people 19 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:02.960 who took the day off. My wife used one of 20 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.079 her vacation days today. Again I agree, I get it. 21 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:08.519 Even if it was the case, we would be the 22 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:10.480 ones that would not get off regardless, because you know, 23 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:13.159 this is, believe it or not, this is a sports show, right, 24 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:15.719 sometimes we talk about things that you know, have nothing 25 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:17.920 to do with sports, and we end up going down 26 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:19.920 paths that I'm not really sure how we how we 27 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.400 get there. But you know, talking about the super Bowl, 28 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:25.680 if that's considered work, then sign me up. 29 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:26.120 Yah. 30 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:28.519 Yeah, sound like a real company man when I say. 31 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:30.959 That, Absolutely, you were worth every penny. 32 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:33.280 Yeah, I'm fired up and ready to be here, but 33 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:35.159 I am I'm a little tired. I mean a little tired. 34 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.239 You know, I thought about dragging at the day after 35 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:39.920 the super Bowl, just dragging ass or yeah, I know 36 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:42.640 what it is. What did you get hammered last night? 37 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.879 Not hammered by any means, but she had as Yeah. Yeah, 38 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:49.760 like I would say if I was going to have 39 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.000 some some bruise on a on a work night and 40 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.760 you know, watch any other game, I would say the 41 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:59.000 Super Bowl was that turned up a couple of notches 42 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:01.719 where maybe a couple more beers than usual and I 43 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:04.439 was up later than I typically would be. So that's 44 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:06.040 why I'm still a little a little tired. 45 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:07.879 But did you go to a party? 46 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:11.039 Yes? Yeah, we uh we ended up getting together with 47 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.199 some friends. They had a little get together with all 48 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.639 the kids and there was a lot of fun, so 49 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:17.719 big thanks to to Kaitlin and Stephen. 50 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:18.800 Coleman who had us out. 51 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:21.000 They had They had a great, a great little party. 52 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.120 Everybody brought different foods and uh it was some good stuff. 53 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:27.520 So you guys bring My wife brought meatballs, and I 54 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:29.960 just brought what a super Bowl staple, and I brought 55 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.960 bush lights for myself and and vibes be well guest ever, yeah, 56 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:36.240 and I brought some vibes too, So we had a 57 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:37.719 good time and I ended up it was kind of 58 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:39.360 the first time that I've been at a Super Bowl 59 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:43.319 party where I kind of really wasn't keeping up with 60 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.080 the game all that much. I mean I was, but 61 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:49.360 I wasn't intently watching and it was okay because it 62 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:51.759 really wasn't worth watching because it wasn't much of a 63 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:53.919 game at all. So we'll certainly talk about that as 64 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:56.759 we take you up till six o'clock, hang out, take 65 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:58.280 us with you wherever you go. You can listen live 66 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.360 on the iHeart Radio web listen live at seven ninety 67 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:02.759 Louisville dot com. Certainly a lot to react to from 68 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:06.039 the weekend, not just the super Bowl, and we'll certainly 69 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:07.639 do that. There'll be plenty of ways for you guys 70 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:08.719 to be a part of the show, and I'll let 71 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:10.840 you know how you can do that coming up here shortly. 72 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:14.080 But in the end, I mean last night you said 73 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.479 it right before the show started, how boring the game was. 74 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:17.800 Yeah, that was awful. 75 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:20.599 Did but did you take any like knowing that it 76 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:24.000 wasn't competitive and it wasn't close? I mean, did you 77 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:27.520 take any extra satisfaction knowing that it was the Chiefs 78 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:29.159 that were getting brains beat out of them? 79 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:31.520 It was funny? Yeah, I love how they didn't show 80 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:32.800 Taylor Swift all that much. 81 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:34.759 When they did, she got booed. 82 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:37.199 Yeah, I didn't. I didn't hear that part. 83 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:38.000 Oh you didn't see that. 84 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.159 I mean, oh, the only time I think they showed 85 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:42.400 her like maybe late in the first quarter. I think 86 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:43.439 it was, but I don't remember. 87 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.080 Here she got booed. Yeah, she and you can and 88 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:50.680 you can that's rough. You can actually see her looking 89 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:55.199 very like surprised. She's not used to that and stunned. 90 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:57.520 I mean I should I mean I think she probably. 91 00:03:57.840 --> 00:03:59.360 She kind of laughed it off. In fact, I just 92 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:02.599 sent you on her the Sports Center. The Sports Center's 93 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:05.479 Twitter account posted the clip of her getting booed, and 94 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:07.360 they've got her up on the screen and she's kind 95 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:09.840 of got a surprise reaction. She didn't you know, she 96 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.039 didn't do anything crazy, But to me, I think she 97 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:16.319 I think it was there was a genuine surprise that 98 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.279 she was getting booed, as if she couldn't believe that 99 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:20.519 anybody didn't like her. I mean, I'm sure she knows that. 100 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:22.720 You know, there's nobody in the world that has a 101 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:25.920 unanimous approval rating by just about everybody. But you know, 102 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:28.399 she's clearly very popular. But I was not expecting her 103 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:29.040 to get booed. 104 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.120 Yeah, you could kind of see her mouth like what's 105 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:31.560 going on? 106 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:33.279 Yeah she said what are they doing? Or why are 107 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.319 they doing that? Yeah, maybe she did say what's going on? 108 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:37.079 But like doesn't I mean, don't you think that was 109 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:40.639 a real raw reaction, Like that wasn't like she she 110 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:44.519 wasn't expecting it. And I hate saying this because I 111 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:46.720 don't know. I don't know anything about her other than 112 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.639 that she's a really famous musician who has a crazy, 113 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:52.800 kind of weird following. But you know, she's successful. I 114 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:55.199 don't have any reason to like or dislike her. She's 115 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:58.519 just very much whatever to me. But I kind of 116 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.279 liked that she got booed, and I don't know why. 117 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:01.639 Kind of made me feel like an a hole. 118 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:03.680 I'm wondering if they did that last year of No, 119 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:06.160 I don't, and I don't think that's sharing. 120 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:08.800 Wow, I mean I don't. I don't know if. I 121 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:10.959 mean again, just looking at her, I feel like she 122 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:12.680 might have been booed for the first time ever in 123 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:13.160 her life. 124 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:15.879 Oh, this isn't the Raors Tours, sweetheart, this is the 125 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:18.079 National Football League. 126 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.040 Yeah, so that, I mean like it kind of all 127 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:22.560 worked out for for for all of us haters if 128 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:26.600 you were watching, really with that being the only element 129 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:29.040 that had you interested at all. Right, Like, I don't 130 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:32.360 like either of these teams. I disliked the Chiefs more, 131 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:34.480 but as we got closer to the game, I started 132 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:37.319 to think, Man, they don't really do much to make 133 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:39.560 me hate them, Like I'm just a pure hater because 134 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:41.759 they're so good. And that's not a good feeling, but 135 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:43.720 you know, it is what it is. You can't really 136 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:46.120 control how you feel about certain things. So I thought 137 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.959 maybe when the game kicked off, I would be more 138 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:51.839 neutral and just kind of think whatever. But no, I 139 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:54.079 mean I don't see this fading at any point. I 140 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.800 don't see this going away. When the Chiefs are on, 141 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:59.720 I want to see them get embarrassed, and I rarely, 142 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:01.639 I mean really do we ever see that. But to 143 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:05.759 have them get killed, to have the the there's some 144 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:07.240 crazy stats. We'll get into it. I don't have him 145 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.480 pulled up right now. But how bad the Chiefs were 146 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.920 in the first half. I mean, didn't the Eagles have 147 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:16.279 more points than they had total yards in the first half? Yeah, 148 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:18.600 like it was, I mean, and Mahomes was terrible. 149 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:20.959 Yeah, they had more points and they had like first 150 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:24.079 they had more first downs than the Chiefs had yards 151 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:24.720 at one point. 152 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:29.279 So to see them struggle, to see Mahomes press rather 153 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.759 than you know, become the cool, comfortable quarterback that makes 154 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:34.639 all the plays, I mean, he got rattled a little 155 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.439 bit and it started making mistakes that you really never 156 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:39.680 see him make. Like the game really got away from him. 157 00:06:39.720 --> 00:06:43.000 They got blown out. And you add in you know, 158 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:47.680 sad Travis Kelce, you add in Taylor Taylor Swift getting 159 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.240 booed as we just mentioned, like all of that came 160 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:53.120 together and it was a beautiful night. But I just 161 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:57.360 you know, I hate knowing that I I'm a satisfied 162 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:01.399 watcher of the Super Bowl because because I'm just a hater, 163 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:03.720 Hall of fame hater, hall of fame hater, that's what 164 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:05.279 I am. And look, I think there are some really 165 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:07.399 good villains in sports, and I think there are people 166 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:12.079 that their brand is maybe not to be hated, but 167 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.959 like they know going in Like Draymond Green, for example, 168 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:17.199 that guy's a great villain in sports, right, Like I 169 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:19.759 almost respect how much I hate him because he's a 170 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:22.000 great villain, you know what I mean. Like he's he 171 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:24.759 plays the role, doesn't care, and he lets you know 172 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:26.920 about it exactly. I don't really know if the Chiefs 173 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:30.720 are that way, but sure enough, I found myself really 174 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:34.519 enjoying seeing them get embarrassed. And I mean, I'd be 175 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:36.160 a liar if I said I think this meant like 176 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:39.319 it's the end of the run that they've had. I mean, 177 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:42.079 it could be, but I won't be shocked if if 178 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.720 they end up right back there next year with another 179 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:46.319 chance to win the Super Bowl. Believe it or not, 180 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.920 this is not the first time that Patrick Mahomes and 181 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:50.560 the Chiefs have been blown out on the Super Bowl. 182 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:52.639 And I'll tell you what. I gotta be honest, because 183 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:54.959 they've just been so good and they've won two out 184 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:57.600 of three or I guess was it two out of 185 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:59.959 three that they'd won before. Yeah, and they were gonna 186 00:07:59.959 --> 00:08:02.160 go for the three peat last night. And just because 187 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:04.839 they've just been so good for for years now, it's 188 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.160 been a constant, I kind of forgot that when they 189 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:09.959 did get beat by Tampa that they got killed. Yeah, 190 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:13.240 I mean they got So you've got Patrick Mahomes now 191 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.360 with two super Bowls that really weren't competitive. And I 192 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.639 was listening to Colin Cowherd today and he did a 193 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.560 you know, I know, first of all, I love cow 194 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:23.279 Herd for you know, for what that is, right, that's 195 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:25.519 I mean, it's much. It's a national show. They're not 196 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:27.759 going to veer off on things that aren't hard hitting sports. 197 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:30.519 And they talk ninety nine point nine percent about the NFL. 198 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:33.000 So you know, it may not be the most entertaining 199 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:34.600 thing for folks around here, but I think he's really 200 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:36.639 really good at what he does. And you know, his 201 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:40.120 opening monologue about about Mahomes and sort of what last 202 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:44.559 night did, it surprised me a little bit because it 203 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:47.679 was just comparing everything to Brady, and I get it. 204 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:50.879 Mahomes is the guy that has a realistic chance to 205 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:54.879 potentially pass Brady or maybe catch Brady when it comes 206 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:57.200 to rings much easier so than done. But he's off 207 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:59.519 to a phenomenal start to his career. But he was 208 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:02.039 almost setting it up as if like it's over now, 209 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.559 and I'm thinking he's not even thirty years old yet. 210 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:06.200 Now he's not. I mean, he'll be thirty next year 211 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.799 when he plays. And he didn't look good last night. 212 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.080 But I just I don't know, Like I wish that 213 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:13.320 the Chiefs would, you know, their run would come to 214 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.360 an end, but I think the fact that they're already 215 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:18.840 taking shots at Mahomes and I guess maybe that really 216 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:21.240 wasn't what he was doing. But there were things that 217 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:24.559 Brady did when he would put together performances in the 218 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:27.360 Super Bowl where he could win with maybe out without 219 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:29.399 having better talent than the other team. Right, he could 220 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:33.080 manipulate the defense, and last night, I mean that defense 221 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.840 was dominant. I mean, Vic Fangio, he probably deserves the 222 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:37.600 MVP of the game, to be honest with you, just 223 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:40.399 because of how great that defense was. Their defensive line 224 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:44.120 as a whole was phenomenal, and I thought Jalen Hurts 225 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:46.639 did a good job and didn't even need Saquon Barkley. 226 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:48.720 I mean he was out there, but like he didn't 227 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:51.159 need to go have some crazy game. And I thought 228 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.120 there's no chance they beat him without him being a 229 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:55.159 big factor, and I was dead wrong, and it's because 230 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:57.200 of how great their defense was. So anyway's back to 231 00:09:57.240 --> 00:10:01.279 the Mahomes thing. I mean, maybe there was some things 232 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.519 that Brady threw out many of his Super Bowl wins. 233 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.039 He was able to do that Mahomes hasn't done yet 234 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:12.000 in these big games. But again, he's twenty nine years old. Yes, 235 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:14.919 Mahomes has never came back from a deficit in the 236 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:16.840 Super Bowl, but he he has one? Two? 237 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:18.080 Is it two? 238 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:19.559 Or three? Did he already has? Is it three? 239 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:20.600 Three? 240 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:20.879 Yeah? 241 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:21.120 Yes? 242 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:21.360 Three? 243 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:23.960 Yeah, So I mean he has one. I mean he 244 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:26.519 hasn't come from behind, but you know what, he hasn't 245 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:28.759 had to in three because he has three Super Bowl wins. 246 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:32.679 And yes, he didn't come back from behind like Brady did. 247 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:35.000 I mean, again, I don't even like Mahomes, but here 248 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:38.080 I am finding myself kind of defending him because his 249 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:40.240 career is not over. He's got a lot more left 250 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:43.240 and these little things that clearly were an issue last night. 251 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:45.720 He couldn't will his team from behind. He's up there 252 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:47.799 as one of the best of all time already, therefore 253 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:52.960 the standard is set so high. But I mean, I 254 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:56.600 think the Falcons choking a Super Bowl away to Brady 255 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.240 was a bigger factor than Brady really fine than a 256 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:01.399 way to come from behind. I mean, he still deserves credit. 257 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.080 That was insane, but let's not act like it wasn't. 258 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:05.759 The Atlanta Falcons on the other side, reminding us that 259 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:08.039 they are the Atlanta Falcons, and there was some kind 260 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:10.279 of glitch that they even got there. They just they 261 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.879 were they were reversing course and and giving the game 262 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.440 away because they you know, they were frauds. So I 263 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:20.000 just I wish I could believe what some of the 264 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:22.440 folks are running with that like mahomes is, you know, 265 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:25.200 is it is probably going to be done for him. 266 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:27.159 I mean, why can't they? I mean, I don't know how, 267 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.200 I don't know what their contract situations with certain players, 268 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.639 but they could run it back same team and maybe 269 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:37.480 draft somebody really good a skill player and be even better. Now, 270 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:40.639 Jalen Hurts, I've always gone out of my way. When 271 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:44.600 talking about Jalen, Hurts mentioned how much I respect his 272 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:48.679 story because he's the rare dude who actually did have 273 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:51.879 it all as far as the come up. He was 274 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:54.240 an elite recruit. That's how you ended up playing quarterback 275 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:57.799 for Nick Saban and Alabama. I mean, he's got a 276 00:11:57.799 --> 00:11:59.840 lot of talent. He was drafted in the second round. 277 00:11:59.879 --> 00:12:03.200 Like it's not he's not he's he wasn't bagging groceries 278 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:07.120 or selling you know, furniture, whatever the hell Kurt Warner 279 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.639 was doing, right, I mean, that story was out there. 280 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.120 He was a journeyman where Kurt want to go to college? 281 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:16.039 Because I feel like he's the one who like really 282 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.799 had the story about you wouldn't believe this, this guy's now. 283 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:21.639 I mean, you make movies about this. He went in 284 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:25.240 Northern Iowa, So I don't know much about his about 285 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.480 his you know, his college career, but I do remember 286 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:29.080 they talked about when he was in the Super Bowl 287 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:31.919 with the Rams that you won't believe it. This guy 288 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:35.159 was just you know, bagging groceries or selling insurance, whatever 289 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.360 it was. And then now you know, now you hear 290 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:39.559 stories like that every now and then. But My point is, 291 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:43.639 like Jalen Hurts, he actually, you know, he's had some 292 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.360 God given talent his whole life, and he's been blessed 293 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:47.879 to be able to take advantage of that and have 294 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:50.480 a phenomenal career thus far. He's now a super Bowl, 295 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:53.399 super Bowl champ. However, if you consider sort of the 296 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:55.960 roller coaster of it, right, he gets to Alabama at 297 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:58.159 that time, no quarterback from Nick Savid, it ever really 298 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.759 been great, right, say, was still winning with just having 299 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:04.080 better players than everybody in a really really good defense. 300 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:07.759 AJ Mccaern was decent, but you know they didn't really 301 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.159 have him do a whole lot. So Jalen Hurts comes in, 302 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.000 everybody says, well, he's a running quarterback, he didn't have 303 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.919 the arm. And he gets benched in the National Championship 304 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:18.200 game for Tua. And yet you know, still kept a 305 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:21.279 cool head about him, worked his tail off, was motivated 306 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:24.440 by it. I'm sure came back to Alabama, was sharing 307 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:28.240 quarterback duties a little bit, and then essentially got benched. 308 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:30.919 I mean they went with Tua instead of him. What 309 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.960 does he do? He goes to Oklahoma, puts up phenomenal 310 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:36.679 numbers as a Heisman finalist, takes them to the College 311 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:39.799 Football Playoff, proved that he could he could still be 312 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:41.960 a great quarterback at the college level and take a 313 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:44.679 team to the playoff. However, he didn't get a lot 314 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:46.480 of credit for you know why, Well, he's playing in 315 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.519 Lincoln Riley's system. I mean, that's in any quarterback you 316 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:51.799 plug there. Look what Baker did, Look what Kyler did. 317 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:53.759 I mean, everybody just said, well, that's why he had 318 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:57.279 those numbers, So it goes pro I don't believe he 319 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:59.720 was expected to be taken anywhere near as early as 320 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:01.879 he was. He was a second round pick by the Eagles, 321 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:05.279 and their fans hated the pick. I mean they they 322 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:08.120 went insane when they drafted him because at the time, 323 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:10.799 I mean, was that the time they were still thinking 324 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:12.240 that Carson Wentz was going to be the guy? 325 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:13.960 Or was he just gone Yeah, that's when, like Doug 326 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.320 Peterson was still trying to ride with the Carson Wentz 327 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:18.600 train because he was he was damn nearing an MVP 328 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:21.399 before he got it, before he shattered his achilles or 329 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:24.039 his ACL that year that they won to the Super 330 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:28.120 Bowl and and your boy Nick Foles took over, right, Doug, 331 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:32.559 Doug Peterson was he was still high on the Carson 332 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:33.039 Wentz train. 333 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.399 So look, the drafting, I mean drafting each other Hurts 334 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:39.279 did kind of seem odd, but it's clearly worked out 335 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:42.600 to this point. But he wasn't somebody that fans had 336 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:45.039 a lot of confidence in. I mean even whenever he 337 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.639 played in his rookie season, he didn't. I mean it 338 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:50.600 wasn't much, but he didn't. He didn't do a whole lot. 339 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:53.879 And then he became their starter in twenty twenty one 340 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:57.320 and you know, had a winning record and showed some upside. 341 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:59.080 Well then it was the next year where he broke out. 342 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.320 They go fourteen and one. I mean, did he win 343 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:02.919 MVP or was he? I mean, I know he was 344 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:04.399 a finalist. I don't know if he ended up winning 345 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:06.360 it or not. I kind of don't remember him winning it, 346 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:08.399 but he was in the conversation Jalen Hurts, did he 347 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:12.399 win MVP uh last night or no? No? In the NFL, like, 348 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:14.279 I don't think he's ever won. He was up for 349 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.559 it in the year they went to the Super Bowl. 350 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:18.320 But I but I guess he didn't get it. He 351 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:20.879 had to be a finalist. But so my point is this, 352 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:23.679 this guy has has you know, he's had that. 353 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:24.559 Was a Lamar MVP. 354 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:27.919 I think he's had the big stage clearly. Uh and 355 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:30.559 and and it's not some rags to riches story, but 356 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:34.200 he has had some real adversity where people have doubted him, 357 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:37.759 and every time he's been able to prove that he's 358 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:40.679 worthy of of of you know, I mean he he 359 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:44.360 hasn't he's not worthy of your praise or your you know, 360 00:15:44.679 --> 00:15:46.279 or a pat on the back. I mean, he is, 361 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.240 but like he doesn't have to get that. He can 362 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:50.200 just go out there and improve it. I mean, that 363 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:53.559 was a statement type of win for his legacy as 364 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.039 as as an athlete. I And I'm and it's cornied 365 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:58.679 at some but I love stuff like this because there's 366 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:01.120 no doubt this guy's been motivating, right he probably I mean, 367 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.480 and look, I'll be honest with you. Once he got 368 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:05.679 to the Super Bowl in twenty twenty two, and then 369 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:07.519 they came back to next year and weren't quite as 370 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.679 good and he didn't have great numbers, you know, I 371 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:11.440 kind of thought, well, you know, maybe that was not 372 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.399 a fluke, but maybe that was you know, the best 373 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:15.240 we've seen of him. And then sure enough this year, 374 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.080 I mean they were twelve and three. And you know, 375 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:22.000 he's consistent, he wins, he's a good leader, and I 376 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.879 just think, you know, to have him actually get to 377 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.320 his second super Bowl and finally win one and now 378 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:31.799 this is just his Yeah, so this is his fourth 379 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:36.919 year as their full time starter. Okay, so Patrick Mahomes, 380 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:38.519 same thing, didn't start as a rookie. 381 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:38.720 Right. 382 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:41.200 What if I told you Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts 383 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.519 now have the same number of Super Bowl appearances, the 384 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.879 same number of Super Bowl wins, and the same number 385 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.240 of Playoff wins. They have the exact same numbers after 386 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.320 four years as the full time starter. Wow, I mean 387 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:55.440 that's me again. I'm not saying we should start saying 388 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:57.720 that Jalen Hurts is as good as Patrick Mahomes because 389 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:00.399 I don't know if I believe that Patrick moms is 390 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.799 clearly talented, But you know what, so is Jalen Hurts. 391 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:05.799 And as far as accomplishments. When it comes to quarterbacks 392 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:08.160 and their legacy, what do we know? It matters when 393 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:10.599 you do it, It matters what you do in the postseason, 394 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:14.839 and Super Bowl rings matter, right, Like Lamar has two MVPs, 395 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.519 he should have got a third this year, Lamar can 396 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:21.160 win eight more MVPs. Not sure if you will, but 397 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:24.839 his legacy is sort of it's on hold right now 398 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:26.960 because people want to see him make a deep run, 399 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.759 take the Ravens to the super Bowl and win. And 400 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:32.759 you know, I think, you know, I hope he does that. 401 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:34.119