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Speaker 4: That's the place where the conversations are always lightly I'm
Speaker 4: your host, Doc Brown, and here we like to use
Speaker 4: the allegory of the Prometheus lens to take a second
Speaker 4: look at everything. Hey guys, I got a great episode
Speaker 4: for you lined up once again. I know I say
Speaker 4: it every week, but I mean it every week.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: This is a woman that's seen her stuff for a
Speaker 4: while now, actually spent some time with her in the
Speaker 4: woods with Operation smoke, but I like the welcome the
Speaker 4: show first, hopefully first of many. Jessica Jones, the Cryptid Huntress. Jessica,
Speaker 4: thank you for coming on today.
Speaker 2: Hey, Doc, thank you for having me. I'm happy to
Speaker 2: be here and it's good to see you again.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Hey, just maybe for those that been living under a
Speaker 4: rock or maybe not that involved with the Cryptid space,
Speaker 4: just introduce yourself to the audience, give a little background,
Speaker 4: what you're into, what your shows like, and just give
Speaker 4: everybody a feel for Jessica Jones.
Speaker 2: All right, well, I'm I'm Jessica Jones. I am a
Speaker 2: longtime Bigfoot field researcher. Actually, I'm just a cryptid field researcher.
Speaker 2: Started off back in twenty eleven doing field research down
Speaker 2: in the southeastern region of the United States. I'm actually
Speaker 2: from Georgia, and I'm on four separate field research teams.
Speaker 2: And I was never ever, ever expecting to speak publicly
Speaker 2: about my research until about three or four years ago,
Speaker 2: and so I waited at least ten years to ever
Speaker 2: speak publicly about Bigfoot at all. I used to us
Speaker 2: to have a real job where I worked in the
Speaker 2: government and stuff. Okay, so but nonetheless, here I am today,
Speaker 2: and so I am a bigfoot field researcher. I did
Speaker 2: get asked to speak publicly at an event a few
Speaker 2: years ago, and I did and it just snowballed from
Speaker 2: there and now I'm known as the Cryptid Huntress after that,
Speaker 2: and I have I have a YouTube channel, and I
Speaker 2: have some live shows I do every week where I
Speaker 2: talk about my research and I bring on other researchers
Speaker 2: from all over the world, mostly just around North America.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, my life is full of cryptids and activity.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm still very active out in the field as well,
Speaker 2: as you know. I got to hang out with you
Speaker 2: over in East Tennessee not too long ago, and so
Speaker 2: I'm out there boots on the ground. That's my thing.
Speaker 2: I'm a boots on the ground field researcher and I
Speaker 2: love it. I love being outside outdoors. But but yeah, life,
Speaker 2: life has gotten really crazy because now I am chasing
Speaker 2: not just Bigfoot, but dog Man out there. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of me in a nutshell right there. You know. Also,
Speaker 2: my team is trained in the head of one of
Speaker 2: my original team is a one of the world's best
Speaker 2: remote up in my opinion, one of the best remote
Speaker 2: viewers in the world, and he trained our entire team
Speaker 2: in remote viewing over the past ten years. And and
Speaker 2: so we have that tool in our belt and we
Speaker 2: use that in the cryptied field research actually, and so
Speaker 2: it kind of sets our team apart from a lot
Speaker 2: of the other teams are out there doing research today.
Speaker 2: So that's my thing. That's who I am, Jessica to
Speaker 2: cryptin Hunters.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 4: Well, since you brought it up, the whole remote viewing thing,
Speaker 4: that's something I'm not familiar with. And I've heard, you know,
Speaker 4: a lot of Christians in the space talk about you know, oh,
Speaker 4: that's that's the devil, and that's witchcraft, and that's the
Speaker 4: same as astral projection. And honestly, I am completely ignorant
Speaker 4: to what that is. I mean, I kind of got
Speaker 4: a thirty thousand foot view, But could you explain that
Speaker 4: to a dummy like me or maybe somebody that's watching
Speaker 4: this show that may have some you know, misconceptions on
Speaker 4: what that is exactly.
Speaker 2: Yes, Well, you know there's a lot of people out
Speaker 2: there right now. That is a very popular buzzword buzz
Speaker 2: term is remote viewing, and it's almost the bane of
Speaker 2: my existence. Okay, because I turn on the you know,
Speaker 2: I turned on YouTube, and everybody is like, I'm a
Speaker 2: remote viewer, and you know, it's just basically people who
Speaker 2: are psychic who are tuning into stuff. And that's okay,
Speaker 2: but that's not my definition of a remote viewer. Okay.
Speaker 2: Remote viewing is something that our military utilizes, and they
Speaker 2: have been using this since at least the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2: It is a scientific way to look into things psychically,
Speaker 2: to locate targets psychically. And we are all psychic. Every
Speaker 2: human is psychic, whether you use your abilities and hone
Speaker 2: in or not. Okay, we're born with those abilities, those gifts.
Speaker 2: And so back in the nineteen sixties, the Soviets were
Speaker 2: using remote viewers psychic spies is what they're called, to
Speaker 2: go locate targets. These are blind we call them blind targets,
Speaker 2: and that's you know, hostages, coordinates of you know, locations
Speaker 2: where people are being held or there's people hiding out
Speaker 2: or places that need to be bombed or whatever they
Speaker 2: were sitting in psychic spice to go look into you know,
Speaker 2: get information and uh. And so Russia was doing it
Speaker 2: during the Cold War. So the United States had to
Speaker 2: counter it, right, So so they started some programs with
Speaker 2: the US military, uh, the US Army where they were
Speaker 2: bringing in they brought in I guess you have a
Speaker 2: lot people in your audience have seen the men who
Speaker 2: stere a goats. It's it's basically based off of that. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: you can it's based off of those programs. That movie
Speaker 2: is based off those programs. And and let me I
Speaker 2: have there's different modes of remote viewing, Okay, basically it's
Speaker 2: it is psychic spying. Call it that if you want.
Speaker 2: I'm trained in all almost I think. I guess I'm
Speaker 2: trained in every mode of remote viewing. The one that
Speaker 2: I the most is called coordinate remote viewing. And so
Speaker 2: I am given a set of coordinate numbers. Okay, coordinates,
Speaker 2: and that's all I'm given. I'm given a set of
Speaker 2: eight numbers, and I sit down in a room by myself. Okay,
Speaker 2: I have a stack of paper. I have a stack
Speaker 2: of pins, bunch pins, bunch paper, and I am trained
Speaker 2: to go through a process where I go through stages
Speaker 2: after I'm given those numbers, and I pull data out
Speaker 2: of those numbers. We call it data, Okay. And at
Speaker 2: the end of that session. I've gotten all this data
Speaker 2: out of those eight numbers. And I consider I have
Speaker 2: a stack of paper with just a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: information on it. It means nothing to me. I have
Speaker 2: no idea what this information is. It's just stuff that
Speaker 2: I'm sensing. We call it sensory data. Okay, I'm sensing
Speaker 2: information off of those numbers. I'm seeing things, you know,
Speaker 2: like call it like premonitions, you know, like you get
Speaker 2: a premonition, like your phone rings, like you just think
Speaker 2: of something. It's almost like just pulling information out of
Speaker 2: my the subconscious basically is what it is. And and
Speaker 2: I give I hand those papers over to the person
Speaker 2: who tasked me those numbers, Okay, And and that's that.
Speaker 2: That's all I do. Okay. It's called remote viewing. And
Speaker 2: and so I have utilized it in more ways than
Speaker 2: just our team has utilized it more ways than just
Speaker 2: the cryptid stuff. I help locate missing people and and
Speaker 2: locate cold cases things like that. I have definitely helped
Speaker 2: locate where bodies have been buried, and uh, the methods
Speaker 2: and the ways that people have died and uh and
Speaker 2: helped definitely have helped I'm gonna say, solve some cold cases.
Speaker 2: Uh and uh, in my data, the information that I've
Speaker 2: gotten out of these cases has been very accurate, Okay,
Speaker 2: very accurate. And and why why not use utilized someone
Speaker 2: like a remote viewer. If you have a missing child,
Speaker 2: let's just say, or a missing a missing relative or
Speaker 2: something like that. You know, I think that if some
Speaker 2: something like that happened to me and my family, I
Speaker 2: would use every resource I had available, you know, to
Speaker 2: locate that loved one, you know. But but it shus
Speaker 2: for much more than that. I mean, remote viewing can
Speaker 2: be basically used to to locate any kind of a target. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I'm locating targets. They can be geographical targets. The
Speaker 2: coordinates I get are not always geographical coordinates. They're just
Speaker 2: random numbers, okay, that are assigned to a target. And
Speaker 2: so I can here's how I use it in the
Speaker 2: cryptied world. Okay, if my team is going out to
Speaker 2: a new a location and we're wondering, like, what kind
Speaker 2: of activity is going on there, what kind of cryptids
Speaker 2: we have there, what kind of history is on that land?
Speaker 2: Someone on my team? I mean, and these are blind coordinates,
Speaker 2: so we don't know what the targets are going to be,
Speaker 2: but somebody will send me some coordinates and I'll sit
Speaker 2: down and do a session and we can pull out
Speaker 2: data from that location to find out what's going on there,
Speaker 2: like portals, Bigfoot, you know, Native American land disputes or something.
Speaker 2: I mean, all sorts of stuff. We can find out
Speaker 2: what's going on there on those pieces of land. They're
Speaker 2: doing remote viewing on it, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the target can bring pretty much anything, going
Speaker 2: back to events and time, okay, different times in history.
Speaker 2: We can go backwards and times, we can go forward
Speaker 2: in time. I can remote view off planet. As a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, this week I just covered the Sidonia
Speaker 2: Complex on Mars was given to me as a coordinate
Speaker 2: remote viewing target, okay, and we went over that on
Speaker 2: a show on my channel actually, and that covers you know,
Speaker 2: the face on Mars that people talk about and the
Speaker 2: pyramids and these are all alleged okay, but the remote
Speaker 2: viewing data suggested that there actually was a civilization on Mars. Okay,
Speaker 2: through that data. That was a blind target. So's it's
Speaker 2: just interesting. You know. I do it as a hobby
Speaker 2: and I love it. I love it. I think it's
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. And and the people that are
Speaker 2: on my team are you know, a lot of them
Speaker 2: are former military and currently you know, contracted with you know,
Speaker 2: Department of Defense and stuff like that. So it's an
Speaker 2: interesting thing to do in a really cool hobby to have.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: So you didn't have to sign some contract with the
Speaker 4: devil and cut yourself and bleed onto the paper or no,
Speaker 4: sit in a pentagram with a bunch of lights and
Speaker 4: say a bunch of chants from a medieval grimoire, none
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 3: Kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: No, I would not do that. If it required that,
Speaker 2: I would have walked out. Okay, absolutely not. No, that's
Speaker 2: not my thing. No, uh yeah, you know I have
Speaker 2: when I and that's something else when I when I
Speaker 2: came out as a remote viewer publicly. You know, it's
Speaker 2: hard enough coming out as a bigfoot researcher publicly, but
Speaker 2: I did. I got more pushback from talking about remote
Speaker 2: viewing because it is I want to say, misunderstood, but
Speaker 2: some people understand it just you know, as it is.
Speaker 2: Here's my thing. Like That's why I kind of explained
Speaker 2: in the beginning when I started talking about it that
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who claim to be remote
Speaker 2: viewers who are not talking about the same remote viewing
Speaker 2: that I do. Okay, it's different. It's not just looking
Speaker 2: at something secularly. This is something that I have been
Speaker 2: trained in. This is a a science. Okay, it's a
Speaker 2: science that has been studied. It's a program. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: call it a program, I guess, uh. And yes, there
Speaker 2: are different modes of remote viewing. The coordinate remote viewing
Speaker 2: is one that I prefer to do because there's data,
Speaker 2: tangible data that I can hand people and actually show
Speaker 2: show my audience. You know, I do a show every
Speaker 2: Thursday night just on my remote viewing targets that I've
Speaker 2: been tasked with, and so to show the audience the process.
Speaker 2: You can see every bit of my thought process and
Speaker 2: everything that goes into all this. It's all on the
Speaker 2: papers and the data. Okay. So it's it's it's just
Speaker 2: important to note that militaries, governments all over the world
Speaker 2: do utilize remote viewing. And I have a friend who
Speaker 2: is a sniper in the military, and he has assured
Speaker 2: me that every unit, every sniper unit he's been a
Speaker 2: part of, has been assigned a remote viewer. So they are.
Speaker 2: They are heavily utilized in our in the military from
Speaker 2: what I've been told.
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, you don't really know how deep the rabbit
Speaker 4: hole goes til you jump.
Speaker 2: Into it, right exactly.
Speaker 4: And you had mentioned too, you know your boots on
Speaker 4: the ground. You've been a member of several teams throughout
Speaker 4: your time doing this, and you said you did it
Speaker 4: for ten years before you even started talking about it.
Speaker 4: You want to just kind of give us a walk through, like,
Speaker 4: you know, what is a team, what do you guys
Speaker 4: do when you go out in the woods, and any
Speaker 4: kind of you know, cool weird stories that you might
Speaker 4: share with us, kind of give us a little inside view.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, like I said, I'm on several different teams, right,
Speaker 2: and all the teams are different. They're very similar, but
Speaker 2: they're all different. And the very first time I ever
Speaker 2: went bigfooting, okay with a bigfoot research team, I was
Speaker 2: not a member of that team yet, And by the
Speaker 2: time I left that weekend, I was a member of
Speaker 2: their team.
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Speaker 2: But you know, I do most of my field research
Speaker 2: up in North Georgia. I used to Okay, it used
Speaker 2: to be mostly just or Georgia. Now we we cover
Speaker 2: some specific areas all over the South. Uh they're undisclosed locations,
Speaker 2: so I can't tell you the exact location of these places.
Speaker 2: But but a lot of our spots are in national
Speaker 2: and even state parks and some private land as well.
Speaker 2: But it's you know, some some of the main places
Speaker 2: we go are in national parks, and some of the
Speaker 2: teams are more you know, just kind of like going
Speaker 2: out there to communicate with the with the cryptids. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're we're out there observing, we're communicating. Uh. You know,
Speaker 2: when I've that first team that I've joined is called
Speaker 2: Enigma Research Group, and those are those are the guys
Speaker 2: that I'm trained in remote viewing with. But when I
Speaker 2: first met them, they were telling me, they said, well,
Speaker 2: you know, we have already established that bigfoots are out here.
Speaker 2: We've already we've moved on to communicating with the bigfoots now. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we're out there to establish a connection. We're out
Speaker 2: there to establish some communication. And part of the whole
Speaker 2: remote viewing thing. And I keep saying remote view and
Speaker 2: remote viewing, it's not just locating targets. It's also exercising
Speaker 2: your psychic abilities as well. And uh, and tuning into
Speaker 2: your intuition just say, your intuition, spirit tracking. You're familiar
Speaker 2: with that never heard of spirit tracking and stuff. This
Speaker 2: is just it's important to be able to tune into
Speaker 2: your environment when you're out in the woods, Okay and uh.
Speaker 2: And so that's what we were I was pretty much
Speaker 2: trained to do, was to go out into the woods
Speaker 2: and just understand shifts and energy shifts in the environment
Speaker 2: and things like that. And that's that's part of the
Speaker 2: training that we had to tune into our intuitive abilities.
Speaker 2: Let's just say out there, so these guys that had
Speaker 2: already established at Bigfoot was real, let's go to the
Speaker 2: next level. And I was all for it, okay and uh.
Speaker 2: And so the first, the first time I ever went
Speaker 2: on an expedition with them, I mean, and I had
Speaker 2: something that ran up behind me. I thought it was
Speaker 2: I thought it was one of the guys trying to
Speaker 2: scare me. And I had volunteered to be bait, okay,
Speaker 2: big foot bait, and I wanted I went out there
Speaker 2: for the first time. Was I wanted to see a
Speaker 2: big foot. I had no intention of seeing one. I
Speaker 2: had no intention of being on a big Foot team.
Speaker 2: I had no intention of ever ever having this become
Speaker 2: my life. If I had known then what I know now,
Speaker 2: I would have said, you were crazy. Okay, that was
Speaker 2: going to be the crypt tod hunters. One day, but
Speaker 2: I went out uh to North Georgia, and we had
Speaker 2: a big expedition and I didn't know anybody there except
Speaker 2: for some of the guys i'd met at a presentation.
Speaker 2: They had given and they invited me to their expedition,
Speaker 2: and I just saw it, well, if I'm ever going
Speaker 2: to see a bigfoot, this is my chance. So I
Speaker 2: got all the gear, and I got a tent, even
Speaker 2: put my tent up in my friends but my best
Speaker 2: friend's backyard to make sure I could put it together
Speaker 2: so I didn't look an idiot when I got out there.
Speaker 2: And and so yeah, So I went out there, and
Speaker 2: when I got there, I told the guys. I was like, well, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm here to see a big foot. So
Speaker 2: put me in a weird predicament out there so that
Speaker 2: when I get out there, I see a bigfoot. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't care how wacky it is, how dangerous it is.
Speaker 2: Just put me out there. And I want to go
Speaker 2: with whoever is going to do the most weird, dangerous
Speaker 2: black op event tonight. I want to go with them.
Speaker 2: And uh, and so they put me with with some
Speaker 2: of the old I don't say they were old, they were,
Speaker 2: of course, we're all rednecks and overalls. What are you
Speaker 2: talking about? Get her done? It was basically, yes, shout
Speaker 2: out to Craig, because that's who you're talking about. You
Speaker 2: just don't know it. Yeah. So I went out with
Speaker 2: there's like five or six guys. Uh, two of the
Speaker 2: original team members I was with, and and some of
Speaker 2: the some other guys that were from out of town
Speaker 2: that came in that were ended up being like some
Speaker 2: of the big names of bigfooting back then. And I
Speaker 2: didn't even know. I didn't know who they were. I
Speaker 2: was just hanging out. I just want to go see
Speaker 2: a bigfoot with some strangers in the woods. And so
Speaker 2: we got up to this like field and they were like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: I said, I volunteered to be bait, and they were
Speaker 2: joking around about how they were going to make me
Speaker 2: bait because I was, you know, I'm a female. They
Speaker 2: did they weren't used having females out there with them,
Speaker 2: and they were like, well, we're gonna use Jessica's bait.
Speaker 2: And I was like okay. I was just show me
Speaker 2: what to do, tell me what to do, and I'll
Speaker 2: do it. And one of the guys goes, okay, Jessica,
Speaker 2: we want you to walk up this field by yourself
Speaker 2: and make it up to that tree line. And I
Speaker 2: was like all right, cool. And so I didn't have
Speaker 2: a flashlight on me. I had a headlamp, but they
Speaker 2: told me not to turn it on. And you know,
Speaker 2: they were like, we don't use flash lights out here
Speaker 2: and stuff. But it's in the middle of the woods, Okay. Cool.
Speaker 2: So I was not going to do anything that they
Speaker 2: didn't do. And so I had a backpack that had
Speaker 2: some snacks and a water in it or something. I
Speaker 2: didn't have any I had nothing other than just peanuts
Speaker 2: and bottled water in my bag. And I decided they
Speaker 2: were like, hey, walk up to that tree line by yourself.
Speaker 2: We're gonna sit down here at the bottom of the
Speaker 2: hill and watch you through our thermals and our fleer
Speaker 2: or whatever they had. And I mean, I think they
Speaker 2: had some lawn chairs or something, and they took their
Speaker 2: camping chairs and everything, and they were just kind of
Speaker 2: sitting there watching me get eaten by bigfoot basically what
Speaker 2: they were doing. And so I just took off walking. Now,
Speaker 2: let me describe the landscape. Was that there's there's like this,
Speaker 2: it's just a big hill. I'm going to say it's
Speaker 2: about a football field about seventy five to one hundred
Speaker 2: yards and going up into like a mountain basically right,
Speaker 2: And it was open field like a meadow kind of
Speaker 2: and there was a big tree line up at the
Speaker 2: top of this mountain and they just said, hey, walk
Speaker 2: up to that tree line. And I thought, well, okay, well,
Speaker 2: if anything happens to me, at least they can tell
Speaker 2: my mom what happened to me, because you know, back then,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a long time ago. And uh,
Speaker 2: it was before I had gotten married and had a
Speaker 2: kid and all that kind of stuff. I was wild
Speaker 2: and free, and so I was like, they can just
Speaker 2: tell my mom what happened. And uh. And so I
Speaker 2: started walking up this hill and I was very nervous. Okay,
Speaker 2: it was very nervous. Uh, but I they said they
Speaker 2: had seen a big foot up there the night before
Speaker 2: or something, and so I was like, okay, well this
Speaker 2: is my chance. I started walking and I got it.
Speaker 2: I literally got about halfway up that mountain, up the hill,
Speaker 2: and I heard one of the guys trucking it behind me,
Speaker 2: like I could hear him. I could hear him his footsteps.
Speaker 2: I could feel the energy of it like I could
Speaker 2: feel it. I could feel the footfalls and uh. And
Speaker 2: I played rugby in college, okay, and so I knew
Speaker 2: what it was like to like somebody was coming up
Speaker 2: to tackle me. That was the feeling that I had.
Speaker 2: I was like, somebody, they're coming up here to try
Speaker 2: to scare me. And I was like, that's weird because
Speaker 2: I was just trying to make it up to that
Speaker 2: that tree line. And uh. And I got this knucklehead
Speaker 2: coming up behind me about to tackle me, which is
Speaker 2: not cool. And and I'm already nervous, and so I
Speaker 2: heard I could even like hear his I could hear
Speaker 2: him breathing and everything. It was weird. And so I
Speaker 2: have kind of braced for impact when I thought this guy,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, was running up behind me, and I
Speaker 2: thought he was gonna somebody was gonna say boo, you know,
Speaker 2: and uh. And so I kind of like braced for
Speaker 2: impact as I was walking trying to make it up
Speaker 2: to that tree line. And and right when whoever this
Speaker 2: was got up to me, I was ready for them
Speaker 2: to like grab me kind of and and something whoever
Speaker 2: it was like swept my legs out from underneath me
Speaker 2: from behind, and they kept running and I lost my
Speaker 2: balance a little bit and I looked over and there
Speaker 2: was nobody there, and I thought, man, that was weird, okay,
Speaker 2: And I was already nervous, and I was confused, and
Speaker 2: I was expecting to see one of the guys and
Speaker 2: there was nobody there. And so I looked immediately, and
Speaker 2: I know that I had lost my balance because my
Speaker 2: hands kind of went up in there just a little bit, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, this was the distress call to put
Speaker 2: my hands way above my head, and I didn't, and
Speaker 2: I purposely, I remember when when it all happened, I
Speaker 2: kind of kept my hands down because I didn't want
Speaker 2: them to think that I was in distress. But I
Speaker 2: was just so confused. I was looking around. I was
Speaker 2: like kicking around, trying to see if like I had
Speaker 2: tripped over a stick or a log or fell in
Speaker 2: a hole or something, and there was nothing there. So
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well that was just weird. My
Speaker 2: mind was playing tricks on me, or you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I must have been nervous, that's what I
Speaker 2: kept thinking. I was like, I'm just nervous. I just
Speaker 2: imagine that, I guess. And so I just kept walking.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, put on my big girl
Speaker 2: panties and I just kept on walking. And and so
Speaker 2: I got about almost to the tree line. After that happened,
Speaker 2: and Craig, one of those one of the guys from
Speaker 2: down at the bottom of the hill, did come walking
Speaker 2: up behind me and I heard him walk into but
Speaker 2: he was walking quickly and he was trying to catch
Speaker 2: up with me because I was. I slowed my pace
Speaker 2: down a good bit because at that point I was
Speaker 2: very nervous and a little scared. Was I was a
Speaker 2: little more hesitant to get up to that tree line
Speaker 2: at that point, okay, but I didn't want to look
Speaker 2: like a baby. So Craig came up behind me and
Speaker 2: I said, hey, are you a human? I said, are
Speaker 2: you a human? And and he goes, yeah, it's me,
Speaker 2: you know. Are you okay? We saw you, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of throw your hands up, but we didn't know
Speaker 2: if you needed us or not. And I was like,
Speaker 2: I told him what happened, and he said, whoa. He goes, well,
Speaker 2: let's go back and see where where that happened. Let's
Speaker 2: see if there's anything there, you know. He pulled his
Speaker 2: flashlight out and walked back and we went to the
Speaker 2: exact location. There was nothing there for me to tripped
Speaker 2: over or anything. And he he kind of hesitantly said,
Speaker 2: he was like, well, When I explained to him what happened,
Speaker 2: he said, well, you've ever heard of a cloak bigfoot?
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, it was like, I s
Speaker 2: heart a bigfoot. He goes, well, there's a They say
Speaker 2: that they're able to cloak and become invisible, and they're
Speaker 2: there and we just can't see them. And he was
Speaker 2: kind of explaining to me. He was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that's what that was, but it's a possibility, you know,
Speaker 2: that could have been that. I don't know. Uh And
Speaker 2: and let's just say he and I ended up walking
Speaker 2: back up to that tree line, and as we did,
Speaker 2: the guys were watching us down at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the hill through their thermals and their fleers. And I
Speaker 2: walked over to the right hand corner of that tree
Speaker 2: line and as I stood there, I just I'm just
Speaker 2: standing there. Something drew me over to that corner and
Speaker 2: they said that a bigfoot peeked its head up from
Speaker 2: behind the tree directly in front of me and stared
Speaker 2: at me for a while. And uh and I didn't
Speaker 2: have a radio. I didn't know and uh So, anyways,
Speaker 2: that was that was my first experience. I didn't get
Speaker 2: to see that bigfoot. But it was right there and
Speaker 2: all the guys were watching it looking at me right
Speaker 2: there in the corner of that field. Now, was that big?
Speaker 2: Was that thing that that swept my leg out from
Speaker 2: behind me? Was it a bigfoot? I can't say it
Speaker 2: was okay, but it was something and and it yeah,
Speaker 2: it was something. I mean it maybe could have been
Speaker 2: a ghost or something. I mean, I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: kind of weird. Could have been a cloak, bigfoot. It
Speaker 2: was definitely something. Whatever it was, it was the beginning
Speaker 2: of my bigfoot journey.
Speaker 4: And uh, I was hugged.
Speaker 2: Well. We even had more activity the next night we
Speaker 2: were out there, and and we went to that same
Speaker 2: field the next night, and we ended up having so
Speaker 2: much UFO activity out there that we had missing time.
Speaker 2: I had all sorts of crazy stuff that happened. That
Speaker 2: was actually the event that got the head of our
Speaker 2: team to decide he was going to teach us remote
Speaker 2: viewing because we were having so much I'm gonna say,
Speaker 2: just paranormal activity out there. Not only were we have
Speaker 2: encrypted activity throughout the entire area from all the different
Speaker 2: teams that had branched off throughout the whole area, the
Speaker 2: whole weekend. But we had we had a lot of
Speaker 2: UFO stuff happening out there and in red lights and
Speaker 2: the woods out there with us and orbs and you
Speaker 2: name it. It was just non stop the entire time
Speaker 2: I was out there. So that's how I got into bigfooting.
Speaker 2: That was my first trip out there, and we have Yeah,
Speaker 2: I go out to that same location pretty often. Still
Speaker 2: I still like going out there, and it's still full
Speaker 2: of activity, absolutely full of activity and full of bigfoots
Speaker 2: out there. If anybody wants to go have a bigfoot experience,
Speaker 2: you can go to the East Tennessee Mountains, western North
Speaker 2: Carolina or North Georgia and I can promise you're gonna
Speaker 2: find some bigfoots there.
Speaker 4: So you are, uh, I guess from just talking to you.
Speaker 3: You know you have the.
Speaker 4: Jah Genta Pithecus camp, and you have the the Spirit Camp,
Speaker 4: and then you have the Scott Carpenter's the Nephelum Camp.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Do you have a camp or do you think it's
Speaker 4: kind of like a uh a schm mortgage board mix
Speaker 4: mixed bag deal.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm if you had like a multiple choice, I'd
Speaker 2: be d all of the above, Okay, Uh that's that's
Speaker 2: been my experience. I think that there's a variety of
Speaker 2: bigfoot you know. Uh, we got, like you said, the
Speaker 2: flesh and bone camp. We have the interdimensional camp or
Speaker 2: the X factor, you know, that's what my team likes
Speaker 2: to call it, the X factor. Okay, I don't believe
Speaker 2: that all big foots are just like interdimensional I think
Speaker 2: they're all different.
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Speaker 2: Okay? And what is interdimensional anyways? Okay? I think that
Speaker 2: bigfoots can access Earth's natural portals. I think that is
Speaker 2: a thing. Okay, So I think that I think humans
Speaker 2: have paranormal and abilities in the X factor as well, Okay,
Speaker 2: just like bigfoot. So I'm a I'm a all of
Speaker 2: the above type of a person. I think there's such
Speaker 2: a variety. I mean, we've encountered bigfoots out there that
Speaker 2: are just out looking for food and they're animalistic and
Speaker 2: they look like, you know, more primate. And then we
Speaker 2: have bigfoots out there that look like Neanderthal humans and
Speaker 2: things like that that are I'm not saying they're any
Speaker 2: more intelligent than any of them. We have some that
Speaker 2: are highly advanced and highly intelligent and or highly telepathic
Speaker 2: that are out there in the woods as well. So
Speaker 2: there is a variety. Just like humans. We have variety
Speaker 2: of humans, right, we have varieties of bigfoots out there
Speaker 2: as well. And I think all cryptids are like that.
Speaker 2: I'd say even dog men are probably like that. There's
Speaker 2: different levels of them of intelligence and different levels of
Speaker 2: behavioral you know, characteristics and stuff like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: some that will eat you and some that want to
Speaker 2: take care of you in a sweet way, like grandma.
Speaker 4: Yeah, You've got types and kinds and different personalities, you know,
Speaker 4: like people.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Which we were talking pre roll and you had mentioned
Speaker 4: portals and you were talking about you really like looking
Speaker 4: into like the missing four one ones and all these
Speaker 4: people that go missing in parks, and you had mentioned
Speaker 4: that you had a theory on.
Speaker 3: Some of this stuff. Would you like to talk about that? Sure?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah. My team Okay, So I have another team that, uh,
Speaker 2: that I go out with and uh we work on
Speaker 2: a I guess you call it a project called the
Speaker 2: Meadow Project, okay, and uh and that is anomalous studies
Speaker 2: in an observation group.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: One of the guys on the team wrote a book
Speaker 2: about it and about our research and stuff, and uh
Speaker 2: they've been shooting documentaries on it all sorts of stuff lately. Uh.
Speaker 2: And so it's gotten a buzz lately. Okay. But we've
Speaker 2: been going out to there to that that area for
Speaker 2: almost tenure now for a while, and it's set of
Speaker 2: undisclosed location. Okay, but uh, but the claim to fame
Speaker 2: one of the claim to fames there, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of okay, because I've I've even heard my own
Speaker 2: voice yell at me from across the creek and said
Speaker 2: time travel one night. Okay, So I don't know what's
Speaker 2: going on out there. There's just a whole lot of
Speaker 2: high strangest. Uh. But we one of the claims to
Speaker 2: fame out there is that we have recorded what we
Speaker 2: considered to be a portal out there in this area,
Speaker 2: and we sent two of our teammates into check it out.
Speaker 2: And they didn't know they were going into anything, Okay,
Speaker 2: But once they got to this thing, their heat signatures disappeared.
Speaker 2: And that wasn't until they stepped out of it that
Speaker 2: their heat signatures reappeared. Now, what I'm referring to is
Speaker 2: the cube. Okay, we call it. Call it the cube.
Speaker 2: I'd never heard of another cube found by any other
Speaker 2: team or anyone else, any researchers until someone sent me
Speaker 2: a link to one of those David Politis films, one
Speaker 2: of those missing for one one the UFO connections. I
Speaker 2: think one of his films he made where there was
Speaker 2: a hunter that was out hunting elk, I believe, and
Speaker 2: he went to go shoot some elk and he came
Speaker 2: across a clear cube. Now this cube is similar to
Speaker 2: what my team encountered out in the middle of the
Speaker 2: woods middle of the night. He said that the next
Speaker 2: thing he knows when he got up to this cube,
Speaker 2: because he described it as a spacecraft and he saw
Speaker 2: this invisible It was like an invisible cube kind of.
Speaker 2: He said, the next thing he knows, he's inside the
Speaker 2: cube with the elk going into outer space. That is
Speaker 2: what he said. And yes, my team had had this
Speaker 2: cube experience back and I think it was twenty seventeen
Speaker 2: or something like that. It's been a while. And it
Speaker 2: was late one night, and the team had dispersed out
Speaker 2: into the meadow and into small, small groups, small teams,
Speaker 2: and I had posted up a different areas in the meadow,
Speaker 2: and one of the teams was posted at the front
Speaker 2: of the meadow and it consisted of David Terry and
Speaker 2: Christen Okay and they were just kind of sitting. We
Speaker 2: don't go out there and like knock on trees and
Speaker 2: like whoop and stuff. We're not out there just looking
Speaker 2: for Bigfoot. We're out there looking for all the other stuff.
Speaker 2: We know Bigfoot's real. We're not you know that team.
Speaker 2: We're out there looking for UFO stuff and any kind
Speaker 2: of high strangest, any kind of critters that are out there, lights,
Speaker 2: light beings, whatever, and our shadows whatever we can find, okay.
Speaker 2: And David started looking. He was looking through his fleer
Speaker 2: and he started noticing that this like object was forming
Speaker 2: in the middle of the meadow, and he thought his
Speaker 2: eyes were playing tricks on it because of what he
Speaker 2: was seeing was like it look it looked the size
Speaker 2: of a shed, okay, like a small garage behind your house.
Speaker 2: Like it was like a big old box. And it
Speaker 2: had the way he described it it was it had
Speaker 2: like two windows on each side it had like crosses
Speaker 2: in them. And he thought he was seeing things, and
Speaker 2: so he handed his monocular over to Terry, said hey, Terry,
Speaker 2: look over there and see if you see what I see.
Speaker 2: And and Terry looked at it and he was like,
Speaker 2: all right, yeah, I'm seeing like a cube or something
Speaker 2: over there. What in the world. And you couldn't see
Speaker 2: it with your naked eye. You could only see it
Speaker 2: through the flear of the thermal. So they radioed over
Speaker 2: across to a team across the field that was closer
Speaker 2: to it, got Bob and Tim, and they said, hey,
Speaker 2: y'all go check out this thing that she showed up.
Speaker 2: We don't know what it is, just go y'all go
Speaker 2: check it out. And so they stayed on there. We
Speaker 2: have ham radios out there, and so they guided them
Speaker 2: over on the radios and you and Kristin had the
Speaker 2: wherewithal to light turned on her video, her Fleer video,
Speaker 2: and so she started recording, and you can see in
Speaker 2: this video they actually have this on video. The cube
Speaker 2: was actually starting to kind of dissipate a little bit,
Speaker 2: so it wasn't as bright as it had been before.
Speaker 2: The heat had kind of gone down a good bit,
Speaker 2: and you can see as Tim and Bob are walking
Speaker 2: over to this cube to go check it out, they're
Speaker 2: guided over to it, and as they get up to it,
Speaker 2: they disappear. And then they said that when they they
Speaker 2: got up to whatever this area was, they just they
Speaker 2: didn't know they were in anything. They said that the
Speaker 2: temperature had dropped, the stars disappeared, the vegetation changed on
Speaker 2: the ground, and they knew there was something wrong, and
Speaker 2: and so they sat there for a second. And they're
Speaker 2: both uh, former military special forces, you know, Bob was
Speaker 2: in the Navy. Tim he was actually in the Army,
Speaker 2: and both trained and remote viewing extensively as well. So
Speaker 2: they're very very much aware of their environment and their
Speaker 2: energy energetics in the area, and they were noticing there
Speaker 2: was something off, and so they backed out of where
Speaker 2: they had been standing and things the environment changed back
Speaker 2: to normal, and that's when their heat signatures reappeared, and
Speaker 2: you could see it in the video that Christen has
Speaker 2: and and let's just say as they reappeared, the box
Speaker 2: actually started shrinking down and you can see it get
Speaker 2: really small and then it flies away or it flows.
Speaker 4: Away, and so they don't even dissipate. It just gets
Speaker 4: so small and then just yes, flies away.
Speaker 2: Yes, correct. So it was very odd. And this is
Speaker 2: in an area where we do a lot of research, okay,
Speaker 2: and we've had a lot of weird stuff that's gone
Speaker 2: down out there, and it's not only cryptid related but
Speaker 2: also like et related UFOs. And now we have what
Speaker 2: we consider to be a portal. We call it a portal.
Speaker 2: You know, we've had other instances out in the field
Speaker 2: and different locations where we have encountered other portals as well,
Speaker 2: but we didn't have them on video. And they're different
Speaker 2: types of portals and they look different. They're all different. Now,
Speaker 2: what we encountered out there in that field, the team encountered,
Speaker 2: you can't say positively that was a portal because we
Speaker 2: just we call it that it could have been a spacecraft,
Speaker 2: but also could have been a portal into a spacecraft.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it sounds weird, but that's all
Speaker 2: we know. And my theory is that a lot of
Speaker 2: these people that are going missing at these national parks
Speaker 2: are potentially walking into what we have on video at
Speaker 2: a national park. Okay. Trey has already announced this is
Speaker 2: a national park, Okay, and so I am not given
Speaker 2: any kind of information away tonight. But my feeling with
Speaker 2: this as well is that it's not it's not each
Speaker 2: I mean, it may be et technology, but I think
Speaker 2: it was like man made. Maybe these things are put
Speaker 2: there on purpose, Maybe people are targeted. Okay. That's part
Speaker 2: of David Politis's research is that there's some characteristics of
Speaker 2: some of the people that go missing, Okay, like nationalities,
Speaker 2: and backgrounds and things like that. Science a lot of scientists. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe maybe it was put there to
Speaker 2: to take some people away. I mean, we don't know,
Speaker 2: but I can tell you that we have our suspicions
Speaker 2: that that incident with that portal, as we call it,
Speaker 2: led to the complications that Tim and Bob both had
Speaker 2: that they are no longer here with us today. They
Speaker 2: both have passed away since that incident happened. After that happened,
Speaker 2: they both got very sick, and Tim had a heart
Speaker 2: condition out of the blue, and Bob got a really
Speaker 2: aggressive form of cancer and passed away just last year.
Speaker 2: And and we even Bob, we had his suspicions that
Speaker 2: it all had to do with that portal incident and
Speaker 2: the research that we do out there, because you know,
Speaker 2: we do take a lot of measurements out there. You know,
Speaker 2: we started carrying Geiger meters with us and Gager counters
Speaker 2: and measuring the radiation. We already been measuring radiation, but
Speaker 2: now we really pay attention to it because every time
Speaker 2: there's any kind of paranormal activity out there, anything that happens,
Speaker 2: there's usually a little, a tiny, little spike of radiation
Speaker 2: at least there's usually radiation spikes. So the stuff we're
Speaker 2: doing out there, it's not just dangerous as far as
Speaker 2: the cryptids go, and the people and the animals and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, we have to worry about radiation. It's
Speaker 2: a big factor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's wild too, because I think of I
Speaker 4: can't remember the saints' name now, but he was a
Speaker 4: saint in the Catholic Church that he kept talking about
Speaker 4: having visitations, you know, from angels or spirits, and some
Speaker 4: people thought it was a or whatever, but he said
Speaker 4: they were angels and that he had such close contact
Speaker 4: with them that he would like to sit with them
Speaker 4: and talk with him, he said. And all of a
Speaker 4: sudden he got really sick and got cancer and he died.
Speaker 4: And like they had documented in the stories and stuff
Speaker 4: about him, that they believed that it was his close encounters,
Speaker 4: you know, with these what he called angels. And I
Speaker 4: had recently spoken with doctor Greg Little, and he wrote
Speaker 4: a book with Andrew Collins a few years back called
Speaker 4: The Origins of the Gods, and he talks about that
Speaker 4: apparition of the Virgin Mary in Egypt back in the eighties,
Speaker 4: like millions of people seen this and they got video
Speaker 4: of it. You see this like glowing aura of this
Speaker 4: person walking across the roof of the church. And it
Speaker 4: was this big fun omnoon back in the day that
Speaker 4: everybody was going to Egypt to this cathedral and getting
Speaker 4: pictures and video of it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like.
Speaker 4: It wasn't just like one or two people seeing this
Speaker 4: thing or claiming they seen this thing. This was something
Speaker 4: that was all over the news, millions of people seeing
Speaker 4: it and got pictures and videos, so they can't really
Speaker 4: deny this thing. And they even covered Joan of Arc
Speaker 4: and her visions that she had that she's seen angels
Speaker 4: and described them as these glowing beings and things like that.
Speaker 4: So he theorized in his book he wasn't trying to
Speaker 4: de supernaturalize anything, but he was trying to find like scientific.
Speaker 3: Stuff to merge it with.
Speaker 4: And he said in one of the correlations that he
Speaker 4: found was plasma in plasma fields and he even called
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Speaker 4: And he said that there's this energy in the Earth
Speaker 4: and you can find it in like lay lines and
Speaker 4: like different spots of the Earth and fault lines. That's
Speaker 4: this energy that the Earth creates that it basically tries
Speaker 4: to seep out of the Earth, and it's this electromagnetic
Speaker 4: plasma and it comes out in these fault lines and
Speaker 4: these lay lines and ever things like that, and it
Speaker 4: materializes as these glowing orbs or manifestation looking figures and
Speaker 4: things like that. And he was saying in the book,
Speaker 4: he said, I'm not saying that every time so I
Speaker 4: has a vision or sees a portal or some kind
Speaker 4: of glowing orb, that it's just all science. It's just
Speaker 4: this energy, you know, leaving the Earth. He said, No,
Speaker 4: he said, I think it's basically how he described it
Speaker 4: was a tool that's supernatural or interdimensional beings use to
Speaker 4: communicate with us or to cross over into our dimension
Speaker 4: and or realm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I've always said that cryptis bigfoot. Bigfoot are
Speaker 2: able to access Earth's natural portals. Okay, And people are
Speaker 2: always like, well, Bigfoot's interdimensional, and so I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: well what does that even mean? Okay, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess it can change their vibrational frequency us to
Speaker 2: go into another dimension. I mean, okay, totally, anything is possible.
Speaker 2: I've seen some weird stuff. Okay, I've seen some weird stuff,
Speaker 2: but I think most likely they're accessing portals. That's what
Speaker 2: they're doing. They're they're accessing these portals. I mean, we
Speaker 2: have we have encountered too many portals out and the
Speaker 2: field we just have of all different types. And that's
Speaker 2: interesting about the whole Uh what were you just saying
Speaker 2: about the lay lines and things like that. I mean
Speaker 2: we you know a lot of the places of high
Speaker 2: strangeness where we do our research do sit on lay lines.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: That's another thing too, is like that that meadow project
Speaker 4: you know you're that you're involved in, and some of
Speaker 4: these other research areas. It'd be interesting to uh check
Speaker 4: and see, uh how close they are to lay lines
Speaker 4: and or fault lines. Fault lines, especially now with all
Speaker 4: the seismic activity we've had the past few months, you know,
Speaker 4: the earth is shaking and moving, and all these fault lines,
Speaker 4: especially out there in this Pacific rim are really active,
Speaker 4: so that there's a lot of activity and shaking and
Speaker 4: stuff going on. And there's already plasma fields and energy
Speaker 4: scientifically documented to be seeping out of these places. If
Speaker 4: you did have a place that you knew there was
Speaker 4: fault lines and stuff at right now, will probably some
Speaker 4: really high activity.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. I have never even thought about
Speaker 2: the fault lines. Okay, we do discuss the lay lines
Speaker 2: quite often, but not the fault lines. You just gave
Speaker 2: me some new homework for tonight. Actually, yeah, you're welcome. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. You may have to come on
Speaker 2: my show sometime. We'll talk about it, okay. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's really interesting because I need to look to see
Speaker 2: where all the fault lines are. Just man, I mean,
Speaker 2: we've had I don't know why I'm thinking about this.
Speaker 2: You said something about the plasmoid, you know, portals and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. We've had something that happened up in
Speaker 2: the same area where I had the whole invisible thing
Speaker 2: run behind me and sweep my legs out from behind me.
Speaker 2: That same area in North Georgia. I was up there
Speaker 2: with my buddy Tim, one of the one of the
Speaker 2: fellas that passed away after he went into the portal.
Speaker 2: Tim and I and we were up there with our
Speaker 2: whole team, but we had a group of people with us,
Speaker 2: and we had gone up late one night to do
Speaker 2: some research in one of the fields. And uh, this
Speaker 2: fog started following the following us down the mountain, and
Speaker 2: it was I'm going to say it was the top
Speaker 2: two times. Okase, I don't get scared. I really don't.
Speaker 2: I don't get too scared. I could get uneasy sometimes, okay,
Speaker 2: but but I've never I've never. I don't run. Okay,
Speaker 2: we don't live and fear. But I was unnerving. We
Speaker 2: had a fog that seemed to have a consciousness to
Speaker 2: it that was following us around.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: I know you'd mentioned the missing people, and I think
Speaker 2: this may have something else to do with where these
Speaker 2: missing people are going as well. Maybe they are being targeted.
Speaker 2: Some people are targeted, and you know they do. They're
Speaker 2: trapped inside these boxes or portals or whatever this is
Speaker 2: that my team's encountered. But we were up in that
Speaker 2: mountain late one night and and Tim and I started
Speaker 2: noticing that there was like this really thick fog. It
Speaker 2: was very unusual creeping from above us where we were,
Speaker 2: and it was coming down the trail, and every time
Speaker 2: we would go down the trail, it would go down.
Speaker 2: If we'd speed up, it would speed up. We slow down,
Speaker 2: slow down, it stopped, it would stop. We were testing
Speaker 2: it out to see, like, well, what you know? And
Speaker 2: he and I weren't saying anything to the people that
Speaker 2: were with us because we were trying to keep it
Speaker 2: to ourselves. We didn't want to upset or alert anyone.
Speaker 2: It was with us. It wasn't our normal team that
Speaker 2: was with us. It was some friends of friends that
Speaker 2: were with us, and and so he was keeping an
Speaker 2: eye on it and I was too, and and something
Speaker 2: was giving us a really bad feeling about this fog.
Speaker 2: And it's like, why would why would fog creep you
Speaker 2: out so bad? And didn't make any sense back back
Speaker 2: then at first, but when it started happening, we were like,
Speaker 2: all right, there's something wrong with this. And he said, okay, Jessica,
Speaker 2: you you take take us out of here. He was like,
Speaker 2: I'll stay behind and you take us out. You lead
Speaker 2: the group down back to base camp and try to
Speaker 2: get us out of here as fast as you can.
Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, and and he he
Speaker 2: stood back. And there was something in that fog that night.
Speaker 2: There was something in it. I don't know if it
Speaker 2: was in the fog or if it was the fog. Okay, uh.
Speaker 2: But since I I eventually talked about it publicly, since
Speaker 2: I went public, okay, because this happened many many years ago.
Speaker 2: When this happened, but when I spoke on it publicly,
Speaker 2: I started having people contacting me saying, well, you know,
Speaker 2: the same thing happened to me. And there are cases
Speaker 2: of people who have been a lot of people have
Speaker 2: disappeared in the fog before, especially at like Yellowstone National
Speaker 2: Park and places like that. They have a really dense
Speaker 2: fog out there. But I think it's maybe it used
Speaker 2: as a cover for cryptids things like that, maybe even
Speaker 2: for just for animals. But this fog had an intellig
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you, that had an intelligence to it,
Speaker 2: a consciousness as we would call it, in the fog.
Speaker 2: And every move that we made, that fog made too,
Speaker 2: and it was not It was very unnerving. Okay. So
Speaker 2: I tell my stories about this stuff, about my personal
Speaker 2: experiences of my encounters because I want other people to
Speaker 2: be aware of what's going on out there and to
Speaker 2: pay attention. A lot of people don't pay attention to
Speaker 2: their surroundings out there, and we have, like I said,
Speaker 2: an epidemic of people going missing out of our national
Speaker 2: parks and uh, and I just want to warn people
Speaker 2: and uh tell people what to be aware of. Okay,
Speaker 2: out of my experience.
Speaker 3: And going these places, don't go along.
Speaker 4: You know, it's best to have a buddy with you
Speaker 4: or if you are going, let everybody know where you're
Speaker 4: going and what time you plan to be out and
Speaker 4: things like that. But yeah, even grown men get get
Speaker 4: scared out in the woods. As you were talking, you
Speaker 4: know how you said, you know, I'm not scared. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't run. But we all went out there with
Speaker 4: that Operation Smoke, and we you know, we've all grown
Speaker 4: men and women out there. Yeah, a lot of uh
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of weaponry. So we had no
Speaker 4: reason to be afraid. Uh, if something did come at us,
Speaker 4: we had enough bullets and weapons to put it down
Speaker 4: if it was fleshly. And a lot of the guys
Speaker 4: were ex you know, military and stuff and swat and
Speaker 4: so we went out there and we set up a
Speaker 4: bait trap and broke up into groups of four or
Speaker 4: five and surrounded the bait trap at about I don't know,
Speaker 4: fifty yards sixty yards away and just went totally lights out,
Speaker 4: and we kept noticing. One group just kept turning their
Speaker 4: lights on. They turn it on for a minute, and
Speaker 4: then they turned it off. Turn it on for a minute,
Speaker 4: turn it off. And I was with Drewski and Kevin
Speaker 4: and we were just kind of talking, like, what the
Speaker 4: hell's going on down there? Maybe somebody dropped something, or
Speaker 4: maybe somebody needed to get something out of their pocket
Speaker 4: or you know, or whatever. But it happened several times,
Speaker 4: and then finally one of the guys has come across
Speaker 4: the radio is like, Hey, what's going on down there?
Speaker 3: Y'all? All right? And it was.
Speaker 4: One's group and he radio back over the radio and
Speaker 4: it was like, hey man, we're freaking out all of us.
Speaker 4: He said, we hear stuff going on all around us.
Speaker 4: He said, sticks breaking, leaves ruffling. He said, the whole
Speaker 4: group just has this fear of dread over us. He said,
Speaker 4: we're all not just one or two, he said, we're
Speaker 4: all freaked out and we want to get out of here.
Speaker 4: And they had the largest group. They had like five
Speaker 4: people in their group, and Riley was in there with
Speaker 4: them too, and they did uh. They was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: go ahead and go and uh, I mean so this
Speaker 4: dread this you know, I think they called it infrasound,
Speaker 4: which I'm new to the whole bigfoot gripted space, but
Speaker 4: they described it as infra sound. But yeah, all the
Speaker 4: grown men sitting in the dark for you know, five
Speaker 4: to ten minutes, got so freaked out and scared and
Speaker 4: they had all they had weapons, they had stuff to
Speaker 4: protect themselves. They wanted to hell out of there.
Speaker 2: Nothing can ever prepare you for that. And I just
Speaker 2: want to point out it was a bunch of newbies, okay,
Speaker 2: a bunch of newbies out there. But nonetheless, it's it's
Speaker 2: very scary, and that's why I'm very particular about. You know,
Speaker 2: when I talk about my research teams, cw ops, that's
Speaker 2: who we're with. Okay, that's that's that's my other that's
Speaker 2: my fourth team there and uh and those guys like
Speaker 2: to go out and we go on kamakaze missions. Okay,
Speaker 2: so it's a little different than my research teams. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're out there I'm gonna say that team is more
Speaker 2: an investigative team. Okay, we're gonna call it investigative. Uh
Speaker 2: my other teams we don't go out there. We were
Speaker 2: out there to observe solely, that's it, and to communicate. Okay,
Speaker 2: going out there with those guys, that's a fun that's
Speaker 2: a fun that's a fun time though.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: We had a great time out there, living on the edge,
Speaker 2: living dangerously and going right into the heart of monster
Speaker 2: country out there, and I've gone on several investigations with them,
Speaker 2: and we've got we've got more planned Okay, we've got
Speaker 2: more planning coming up, even taking people. We only go
Speaker 2: where hunters have been found, ripped apart and things like that.
Speaker 2: That's what we do.
Speaker 3: In October. We got to that one.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm I think I'm the one that decided
Speaker 2: the location here. Okay, Yes, we've got we've got a
Speaker 2: great backstory on that the location that we're going to next,
Speaker 2: but we can't we won't talk about it on here, Okay, Yes,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I've I've done Skinwalker Cave investigations
Speaker 2: with those guys, and we've we've gone and done some
Speaker 2: let's see where else do we go. We've been We've
Speaker 2: been in George, We've been up to North Georgia actually
Speaker 2: had some has some pretty cool activity. We've gone, uh,
Speaker 2: dog man hunting in Alabama. We we ended up we
Speaker 2: ended up having bigfoot activity instead of dog man activity
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, a couple of the guys, you know, Brian
Speaker 2: and his dad, had had an encounter with their nephew
Speaker 2: out there in the Alabama Forest in North Alabama one
Speaker 2: weekend or one one night actually where they didn't know
Speaker 2: if they were going to make it out of their live.
Speaker 2: They got surrounded by what they were convinced we're dog
Speaker 2: men one night and uh, scared of scared of them
Speaker 2: enough to and those are marines, Okay, they're all three Marines,
Speaker 2: and and they were. It was nerving enough to call
Speaker 2: up some of the crew and get us all out there.
Speaker 2: We hiked into those woods about five or six miles
Speaker 2: in the middle of summer. It was I'm going to
Speaker 2: say it was around it was July of last year,
Speaker 2: and uh, and it was brutal hot, brutally hot. God,
Speaker 2: it was horrible and uh, but it was it was
Speaker 2: actually really worth it, really worth it. I got to goes,
Speaker 2: we set up our hammocks stuff out there. After we
Speaker 2: get out there, we set up our hammocks and our tarps,
Speaker 2: and we became dog man bait. Basically, I said, I
Speaker 2: like to be bigfoot bait. Right well, I'm also in
Speaker 2: dog man bait as well. And we were out there
Speaker 2: having a lot of interesting activity. Actually, and here's another thing.
Speaker 2: We did past two cemeteries on the way out there,
Speaker 2: hiking as a matter of fact, and we had some
Speaker 2: random guy that like hiped out of the woods. As
Speaker 2: we were unloading our vehicles and stuff, getting our backpacks
Speaker 2: on and stuff, getting off our gear out this man
Speaker 2: just kind of came out of nowhere and he was
Speaker 2: holding this big rock. He was like, hey, do you
Speaker 2: guys know about dragons? The guys are like, what, No, again,
Speaker 2: we know about dragons, I guess. And I was like hey,
Speaker 2: I was wondering what he was talking about. And I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, I know about dragons. What you got
Speaker 2: in your hand there? And he goes, well, this is
Speaker 2: the wing of a dragon. And if you guys are
Speaker 2: hiking through this trail right here, he said, you're gonna
Speaker 2: step over the dragon. Oh, You're gonna walk right over
Speaker 2: its wing, and this is a piece of the wing.
Speaker 2: I was like a petrified dragon. You know. I'm into
Speaker 2: like the mud fossil stuff, you know, and Mud Fossil University.
Speaker 2: And I follow I followed Roger on YouTube and the
Speaker 2: guy who goes yeah, he goes, I've been coming out
Speaker 2: here for years. My wife hikes on these trails, and
Speaker 2: while she's hiking, I wipe off the dragon, like I
Speaker 2: cleaned it off. And he had a brush in his
Speaker 2: hand and he said, he this gigantic dragon. It makes
Speaker 2: up the whole top of the hill and the hiking
Speaker 2: trail goes through the wing. And he said, I'll show
Speaker 2: you where's sad if you guys want to go see it.
Speaker 2: And he said, I took the little piece of the
Speaker 2: wing because I want to have it analyzed. And I thought, man,
Speaker 2: that's really cool. So he showed us where it was,
Speaker 2: and sure enough, it looked like a dragon body and
Speaker 2: you could see the tail and every it was a
Speaker 2: It's a perfect dragon out there in the Alabama, Alabama forest.
Speaker 2: And I think it's really cool, you know. I love
Speaker 2: going down the rabbit hole of like petrified animals and
Speaker 2: petrified dragons, and I've really gotten into it since then,
Speaker 2: since we saw that dragon out there on that dog
Speaker 2: man Hunt of all things. And yeah, I've done some
Speaker 2: digging into like declassified like KGB documents and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: talking about because you know, trying to get to the
Speaker 2: bottom of like why why would there be petrified giants
Speaker 2: all over the earth? Okay that are not like not fossilized.
Speaker 2: IM talking about petrified things like giant animals and giant
Speaker 2: humans that have been turned into limestone stone limestone, right,
Speaker 2: And it's like a lot of them if you look.
Speaker 2: And I know this is like not cryptid, but this
Speaker 2: is cryptid related kind of right, because we were going
Speaker 2: into a dog man hunt ran into a dragon. And
Speaker 2: so I'm digging into all this documents and stuff trying
Speaker 2: looking into like people being turned to stone, okay, or
Speaker 2: I don't know, if you're familiar with an incident that happened,
Speaker 2: and I think it was the nineteen nineties in the Ukraine,
Speaker 2: there were twenty three Russian soldiers turned to stone after
Speaker 2: they shot a UFO down.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, No, I've not heard that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: So there was a UFO that had flown over some
Speaker 2: Russian soldiers in the Ukraine. One or more of the
Speaker 2: fellas got trigger happy, they got nervous, and the story
Speaker 2: goes that they shot it down with like a I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was a heat seeking missile, but
Speaker 2: it was some sort of a missile. Okay, shot down
Speaker 2: this UFO and it crashed in front of them. Well,
Speaker 2: they said that when it crashed. This is according to
Speaker 2: these declassified documents. The ship crashed and five ET's came
Speaker 2: out of the wreck craft and they formed into a
Speaker 2: ball of light. They formed into an orb and as
Speaker 2: their bodies combined together into this orb, an energy force
Speaker 2: was blown out. Okay, blew out some kind of energy,
Speaker 2: like an energy weapon, and two soldiers, there were twenty
Speaker 2: five soldiers out there. Two of them were able to
Speaker 2: duck behind something and take cover. The twenty three weren't,
Speaker 2: and their bodies were instantly turned into limestone. Okay, ET
Speaker 2: technology right there turned the limestone their bodies were. It
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 3: Medusa, That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Medusa.
Speaker 4: And the whole story with that, you know, is it
Speaker 4: was a serpentine or serpentine tap being and you yeah,
Speaker 4: like the Bible, the seraphien, you know, and even what
Speaker 4: we called the serpent in Genesis. You know the original
Speaker 4: language that was the nakash, which means the shining one. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you have these shining ones with these serpentine top descriptions,
Speaker 4: and that's something that's universe. You go to India with
Speaker 4: the rig Beta, they talk about these serpentine type entities
Speaker 4: and they have shining ones.
Speaker 3: You go into Egypt, what is that?
Speaker 4: The d Foo building texts specifically mentions shining ones down
Speaker 4: South America, the stories of the Quasi kettle and a
Speaker 4: Varracocia and the shining ones.
Speaker 3: It's a universal story.
Speaker 4: And I love how Timothy Alberino says, you know, we
Speaker 4: get too hung up on verbage. He said, we you know,
Speaker 4: we have stories of these things that we call aliens.
Speaker 3: What are they?
Speaker 4: They are something not of this world that comes from
Speaker 4: the sky.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 4: Genesis six talks about what something not of this world
Speaker 4: that comes from the sky, he said, in every civilization,
Speaker 4: civilization has this story, he said, So textbook definition, they
Speaker 4: are not of this world. So therefore, if we just
Speaker 4: went by textbook definition, all of these things that we're
Speaker 4: talking about are extraterrestrial. Because they are not of this world.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, Oh my gosh, wow, that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, if you go if you looked all
Speaker 2: over the world, I mean all over the world, they
Speaker 2: have stories a Bigfoot as well, and things like that.
Speaker 2: You know, there's called something different. Okay, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'd really like to talk about the whole petrified animals
Speaker 2: and the petrified humans and it are correlated to that
Speaker 2: UFO encounter, okay, because that's just something that I love
Speaker 2: connecting dots just like you do. Okay, we both love
Speaker 2: connecting dots, right, And you gotta wonder, like, what was
Speaker 2: there one event? Could there have been like one event
Speaker 2: in the world that happened. Does something happen that like
Speaker 2: just turn everything into limestone instantaneously? At one point? You know,
Speaker 2: they say that some of those petrified giants, like the humans,
Speaker 2: their faces are all looking into the distance, like in
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 3: Direction the Great flood, the Great that loge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, something something happened, something came down from the
Speaker 2: sky or something. And you say it just it just
Speaker 2: makes you wonder, you know, could there have been some
Speaker 2: kind of extraterrestrial technology that came down and wiped everything
Speaker 2: out turned everything to stone. Okay, it's just something to
Speaker 2: think about.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, well just come in.
Speaker 4: I'd really appreciate you coming on and I'd love to
Speaker 4: have you back, and maybe we can deep dive on
Speaker 4: some of these things that we just kind of touched on,
Speaker 4: I know, the whole uh the mud fossils and that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. That's something really interesting that in my
Speaker 4: early conspiracy days just kind of doom scrolling seeing some
Speaker 4: of those videos and I found the interesting, but I've
Speaker 4: never actually took a deep dive on, if I'm being honest,
Speaker 4: But I love the deep dive on.
Speaker 3: So of this other stuff with you.
Speaker 4: Okay, before we leave, anybody joined the show or something
Speaker 4: that midway through or wasn't paying attention at the beginning.
Speaker 4: Let everybody know about your show, where they can find you,
Speaker 4: websites and anything that you want to plug if they
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Speaker 4: this is a woman that a lot of people talk
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Speaker 3: I'll put out a lot of content.
Speaker 4: This woman's doing three or four live shows every single week,
Speaker 4: so she's got a ton of content.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Yes, I stay busy and plus I'm
Speaker 2: out there chasing Bigfoot and dog Man on the weekdays
Speaker 2: and weekends whenever I get a chance. But thank you.
Speaker 2: You guys can find me at the Cryptied Huntress on
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Speaker 2: can find all my socials over there and everything you
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Speaker 2: me today.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, man. That's I tell people. It's like
Speaker 4: you can get more money, you can get more stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're a single guy or gal, you
Speaker 4: can find another guy or gal, but you can never
Speaker 4: get more time. That's life most value resource. So I
Speaker 4: really appreciate you taking your time to being with us today.
Speaker 2: Of course, anytime come see me on my channel too.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead coming out with me sometime. Okay, Oh
Speaker 2: yeah for.
Speaker 3: Sure, let me know. We'll line it up. Man.
Speaker 2: I love to talk, me too, Me too, man, we can.
Speaker 3: It's all for hours. Great love to talk.
Speaker 2: Imagine that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope you enjoyed that.
Speaker 4: If you want some more content and deep dive on
Speaker 4: some of these things that we touched on, definitely check
Speaker 4: out Jessica's channel. You've actually seen some of her content
Speaker 4: on my channel if you follow me, because me and
Speaker 4: the guys from Operation Smoke went on her showed just
Speaker 4: a few months ago and talked about some of our
Speaker 4: experiences we had on there. So lots of great content,
Speaker 4: lots of great conversations for guys.
Speaker 3: Hey, hope you enjoyed that. Until next time towards is Hi, guys,