Speaker 1: I'm bad to actually rock through new well one in
Speaker 1: particularly it was about a football sized stone. But I
Speaker 1: was walking down this very down trail that went deep
Speaker 1: into the woods. The girl I was dating at the time,
Speaker 1: she was with me, you know. And then we're walking
Speaker 1: up for this now trail. We get to this one
Speaker 1: spot where it kind of slightly opened up a little bit,
Speaker 1: and we're looking off the side of the trail. Something
Speaker 1: caught our attention looking over there, like is that? So
Speaker 1: I pulled my phone out and I start recording. Now
Speaker 1: we can see something dark moving into bushes, looking at
Speaker 1: like it looked like it was kind of going up
Speaker 1: and down, maybe side the side. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: she says something. She said, Oh, it's a juvenile sasquatch.
Speaker 1: So we continued up the trail and when you get
Speaker 1: up to a certain point, there's a creek right there.
Speaker 1: As soon as we get to the outside and we
Speaker 1: start working our way up on the trail and out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, right between me and her, she was righting
Speaker 1: directly right behind me, and this big stone comes flying boom,
Speaker 1: Like what the heck was that? And I'm looking across
Speaker 1: from where we just came from and as we're standing
Speaker 1: over there, somewhere in the background, you hear.
Speaker 2: Woody and having that rock throwing and hearing that makes
Speaker 2: me think that, like I got to the point where, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe that wasn't a bear.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie if I felt a little on edge.
Speaker 4: I'd like to welcome Daniel Benoa to the show. Daniel
Speaker 4: is at this point an og in the bigfoot world,
Speaker 4: I would say, and uh. He is the founder of
Speaker 4: the East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization and he has man
Speaker 4: been around for a long time and doing the damn thing.
Speaker 5: Daniel, thanks for joining me.
Speaker 6: Man, Hey, thank you for having me. This is a pleasure.
Speaker 1: Then.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel ordered to be on your show.
Speaker 4: The honor is all mine, sir, h long overdue. You
Speaker 4: know we've at least been aware of one another for
Speaker 4: a lot of years now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So.
Speaker 4: What got you started in all of this bigfoot stuff?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, to take you guys back, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, as I tell people, I believe this has
Speaker 1: done it for a lot of people, and we are
Speaker 1: most of them. I mean, anyone involved, even if you're
Speaker 1: just getting involved, everyone at one point in time has
Speaker 1: heard of the Roger Patterson, Bob GINGLM footage. That was
Speaker 1: a big part of what got me into this and
Speaker 1: the sea that footage, you know, I know it's been
Speaker 1: debated even to this day. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that believe in it, a lot of people that don't, however,
Speaker 1: are of the way I viewed it was very fascinating.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like boom, it was like
Speaker 1: a slap in the face, like look, there's actually footage
Speaker 1: that took place that came about back in nineteen sixty seven,
Speaker 1: and till this day, that video footage has been dissected
Speaker 1: left and right, and of course there's been all kinds
Speaker 1: of speculation over the years and some somewhat recent, but
Speaker 1: you know, saying, you know, there's naysayers and a lot
Speaker 1: of positive you know, presentation brought up on that film.
Speaker 1: But you know, I will say that was a big
Speaker 1: part of what got me into it. It opened up
Speaker 1: a very strong curiosity, a spark of curiosity that actually
Speaker 1: drawn me in. It drew me in real, real deep,
Speaker 1: you know, and what started off as a curiosity turned
Speaker 1: to a spark of you know, passion, you know, and
Speaker 1: that passion grew and it's still growing to this day.
Speaker 1: I mean I've been involved with a Bigfoot research for
Speaker 1: going on sixteen years. Now here we are in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six, and yeah, yeah, so I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I will tell you when I first
Speaker 1: got involved with all this as well, as I started
Speaker 1: doing some research and what you know, what little research
Speaker 1: I started off doing, and then getting on to social media,
Speaker 1: I was actually blown away because I didn't realize there
Speaker 1: was so many people involved with big research. I started
Speaker 1: learning about the different forums and the Facebook groups and
Speaker 1: you know, and I started to come across all these
Speaker 1: different uh sayings or theories that people were sharing and
Speaker 1: throwing out there. Now, for the record, I didn't jump
Speaker 1: on I didn't jump on board with all these theories.
Speaker 1: But I was I was like the kid in the
Speaker 1: class of just taking notes, right, you know, I was
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see what people were having to say.
Speaker 1: You know. I started you know, hearing people out and
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, and as I got more involved,
Speaker 1: I started reading up on things and you know, whatever
Speaker 1: literature that was available, and you know, I watched a
Speaker 1: lot of different films and I started, you know, getting
Speaker 1: involved with some of the podcasts.
Speaker 6: And you know, and uh, you know, and then here
Speaker 6: I am.
Speaker 1: You know, as far as reading and learning what I
Speaker 1: came outside of the field, I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: it had to me more and more alerted when I
Speaker 1: was out in the field. You know, I guess my
Speaker 1: senses were more heightened. You know, they're really pay attention
Speaker 1: to things out out there in nature. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say right away things were starting, you know,
Speaker 1: starting to really stand out. But things did start to
Speaker 1: stand out eventually when I was really more you know, uh,
Speaker 1: like my senses were more keen. I was more keen
Speaker 1: to be alerted and looking at things I wasn't normally
Speaker 1: looking for, you know, like, for example, some of the
Speaker 1: first things I started to notice, I did start finding
Speaker 1: some tracks you know that were like, Okay, whoa what
Speaker 1: is this? You know, I mean, could just be you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, baby, you know, I mean yeah, So
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, you know, starting to you
Speaker 1: start to pay attention to things that you never did before.
Speaker 4: I remember, correct me if I'm wrong. I think it
Speaker 4: was you though, And it's been some years. It seems
Speaker 4: like I remember you posting a video on the internet
Speaker 4: where you were driving somewhere and you had stopped the
Speaker 4: car and taken video of these tracks that were going
Speaker 4: across the road where something had like come out of
Speaker 4: a creek and left wet footprints on the pavement going
Speaker 4: across the road and into the woods.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was actually in one of my main research areas.
Speaker 1: I was actually camping in the area and I was
Speaker 1: coming back into the location. I was coming down the
Speaker 1: forest road and then in the George Washington National Forest,
Speaker 1: and I'm riding along you know courtin you don't ride
Speaker 1: that pass down the road, so you know it's it's
Speaker 1: gravel and it's got potholes. So I was driving down
Speaker 1: on my blazer that I had at the time, and
Speaker 1: come across. I take notice of that. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: What the heck was that. I stopped the vehicle right
Speaker 1: away in the middle of the road. I get out,
Speaker 1: walked behind the vehicle and what I just drove over
Speaker 1: and what I'm looking at is now some people say
Speaker 1: they may have been bears, which that is very possible, sure,
Speaker 1: but I mean you could see what looks like humanoid tracks.
Speaker 1: They were wet tracks, you know, and they were coming
Speaker 1: out of the woodline. Now there is a small marshy
Speaker 1: area where they came from out of them, but there
Speaker 1: was a you know, there was a small little cump
Speaker 1: of grass on the hillside that comes down the uh
Speaker 1: to the dishline and where it comes out to the road,
Speaker 1: and they were going across an angle over onto the
Speaker 1: other side of the road. And yeah, I did, I
Speaker 1: did do a short video on this. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: a short video on this. And uh, like I said,
Speaker 1: the way I looked at them, and like I said,
Speaker 1: what I had a back then was a cheap camera
Speaker 1: prom so I mean, I mean, the quality was whatever.
Speaker 6: I mean it was. It showed what I was seeing, right, and.
Speaker 1: You know, so it kind of had me pumped and
Speaker 1: had me excited. I mean, of course, when I shared it,
Speaker 1: I had some people like, yeah that, yeah, you had
Speaker 1: a sasquatch crossing there or blah blah blah. Then you know,
Speaker 1: it's like people were saying bear, which I didn't rule
Speaker 1: that out because there is a lot of bears in
Speaker 1: this area.
Speaker 6: I've had a lot of encounters with bears. I'm close,
Speaker 6: I'm distant.
Speaker 4: I just brought that up because it kind of plays
Speaker 4: into what you were talking about. About whenever you get
Speaker 4: into the subject of bigfoot, you start noticing things that
Speaker 4: you probably wouldn't have noticed previously. I would assume beforehand
Speaker 4: you would have just driven right down that road and
Speaker 4: not even cared about the wet spots in it or
Speaker 4: anything else. But how did the whole research thing come about?
Speaker 4: You had an interest because of the Paris and Gimlin film.
Speaker 4: When did you decide to like start going out in
Speaker 4: the woods and actually looking for Bigfoot?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, here here's the thing. I mean, I
Speaker 1: was always like to go out on hips, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, I grew up in the woods even since
Speaker 1: I was a young kid. I mean Dad had me
Speaker 1: out either, you know, I used to tack along with
Speaker 1: dad hunting, you know. But most of the time growing
Speaker 1: up when I was younger, I was always either playing
Speaker 1: in the woods. And you know, I love being on
Speaker 1: the woods, the woods, the forest whatever. It was like
Speaker 1: a I don't know, it was like a a natural
Speaker 1: recreation for me, just to be out there. But you know,
Speaker 1: and our camping. The camping is another big thing to me.
Speaker 1: I do a lot of camping. I do some even
Speaker 1: cold well camping of course, right now, that's kind of
Speaker 1: limited right now because we got snow and a lot
Speaker 1: of ice on the ground out here in Virginia. Yeah
Speaker 1: uh but you know, so yeah that was a big thing.
Speaker 1: But it gave me motivation the go.
Speaker 6: Out there to do this, you know, I mean I
Speaker 6: wanted to be out there.
Speaker 1: You know. I started researching areas that had reported bigfoot
Speaker 1: sightings or and also like my main research area right
Speaker 1: now now, I started going out there before I learned
Speaker 1: about activity up there. You know, I just like I
Speaker 1: just looked at areas while you know, watching stuff on
Speaker 1: TV or YouTube. You know, I looked at the areas like, okay,
Speaker 1: well these are where bigfoots. Some people having big Foot
Speaker 1: sightings in these areas, and the National Force here in Virginia.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of the woods out there. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: this looks very squawky, is what I did come to
Speaker 1: call it, because we're these like people out in the
Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest, you know, are looking at their forests and
Speaker 1: the trees and on these videos the atmosphere where I
Speaker 1: camp at and where I would spend time. I said, man,
Speaker 1: this just looks like where Bigfoot would be. You know,
Speaker 1: it's very heavily wooded, it's thick in a lot of
Speaker 1: areas up there. Yeah, there's a few you know, hiker
Speaker 1: trails here and there. People hunt there during the hunting season,
Speaker 1: and you know it's primitive camping where you know, people
Speaker 1: do camp there during the nice warm weather and everything. Uh.
Speaker 1: But then again I started spending time out there. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like this would be a good habitat for if
Speaker 1: there's a sasquatch or you know in the area. I
Speaker 1: think this is where I need to be. And what
Speaker 1: actually kept me there even more was one of the
Speaker 1: places I worked at. You know, one of the one
Speaker 1: of the guys there that I worked with, you know,
Speaker 1: they're big time hunters, and he he you know, he
Speaker 1: heard me. I guess he found out.
Speaker 6: You know, I've been talking to people where I've been
Speaker 6: camping at and this and that.
Speaker 1: Well this one guy came out of come out of
Speaker 1: the woodwork, you know, just started sharing, you know, he
Speaker 1: said he's up there hunting all the time. He bear
Speaker 1: hunts and he did your hunts to but he's marly
Speaker 1: a bear hunter. And he told me it was the
Speaker 1: same location where I camp at. He said he was
Speaker 1: riding up the forest road one He then he said
Speaker 1: it would probably I don't know. I think he was
Speaker 1: probably close to six o'clock or so in the evening
Speaker 1: where it was still daylight, but it was just before
Speaker 1: it got dark.
Speaker 6: And he told me exact spot from where.
Speaker 1: He was and which I was pretty familiar with that area,
Speaker 1: and he told me a story where he had what
Speaker 1: described he described as around probably six feet tall, dark
Speaker 1: brown uh, you know, covered in hair, around six feet tall,
Speaker 1: comes out in the middle of the fourth road. It
Speaker 1: has a brief hesitation as it kind of slightly glanced
Speaker 1: at him, but it continues moving going across through the
Speaker 1: woods over towards the direction where the river was. And uh,
Speaker 1: he shared that with me, and he shared, you know
Speaker 1: again he shared in the area where's at? And I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, I questioned, Russell. You're like, why is
Speaker 1: he telling me this? I never said nothing. Nobody I
Speaker 1: knew that. Nobody I worked in new about me looking
Speaker 1: for a big I never talked about anything like that
Speaker 1: my coworkers. But uh, I said. I looked at him,
Speaker 1: I said, who told you about me? So I was like,
Speaker 1: he's very little. People at that time knew what I
Speaker 1: was doing. And he said, what are you talking abou him.
Speaker 1: I said, well, oh, by the way, here's this guy.
Speaker 6: He's a hunter and his name is Hunter.
Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, yeah, he was an older gentleman,
Speaker 1: I said Hunter. I said, yeah, who told you about me?
Speaker 1: How do you Why would you tell me that? Because
Speaker 1: I said, that's what I do. I said, I am,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for vic I researched big work. And he
Speaker 1: was kind of like, what you know, I said, I
Speaker 1: just found it odd that he came out and told
Speaker 1: me that, yeah, you know, not knowing anything about me
Speaker 1: that I'm involved with this, but I would Nonetheless, I
Speaker 1: was excited that he told me this. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. It kind of made me more excited,
Speaker 1: you know, like kind of like a kid getting you know,
Speaker 1: being presented a new.
Speaker 6: Gift or something that you know, it was kind of like,
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's hard to explain, but it was exciting that he
Speaker 1: shared that with me. So now my supervisor once I,
Speaker 1: once I started learning more about me, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: the word got around and I you know, I talked
Speaker 1: about it here and there, and then my one of
Speaker 1: my main supervisor who's still working at this time, his wife,
Speaker 1: which is she's much older than him. She retired, and
Speaker 1: he said, he told me my wife, Sue said she
Speaker 1: started a big foot, and uh, she ended up coming
Speaker 1: on and she ended up coming to work one day
Speaker 1: and met up with me on my lunch.
Speaker 6: Break and sat down and told me her story. Now, yeah, she.
Speaker 1: Had a big presiding at that time. I mean I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't worked on this location for probably about ten years,
Speaker 1: but at the time when I worked there, when she
Speaker 1: came in the story, her story was about twenty five
Speaker 1: years old at that time. And of course this is
Speaker 1: on the back road well, probably about five miles from
Speaker 1: where I live now. And she told me she was
Speaker 1: driving down to such road and she would drive along
Speaker 1: and from out of nowhere along the tree line, she said,
Speaker 1: this thing had been easily seven feet tall on two
Speaker 1: feet covered in hair. It comes across the road, goes
Speaker 1: across the pavement and continues on on the other side,
Speaker 1: which is there's a field there and where there's no
Speaker 1: tree line, but it's an open field of a creek
Speaker 1: bed that runs across the field. He said, this thing
Speaker 1: came running across the field and continued on on two feet,
Speaker 1: running across and she grew up here in the valley
Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, I live in the Shanando Valley
Speaker 1: here in Virginia, and we're surrounded by the Blue Ridge Mountains.
Speaker 1: And then we got the Alleghenies out to the west.
Speaker 1: And she said, I grew up here. I've seen bears
Speaker 1: all my life, growing up out here, living here. She says,
Speaker 1: this was no bear. This was seven feet tall on
Speaker 1: two feet and it was it stayed at a steady pace,
Speaker 1: you know. She didn't describe it as being too fast,
Speaker 1: but it was a pretty steady run, you know. And
Speaker 1: it came out from the tree line going across the
Speaker 1: road and continued on. And you know what, I really
Speaker 1: appreciated her story, you know. Uh, And little by little
Speaker 1: over the years and more and more people learn about
Speaker 1: me because I told my name out there. I got
Speaker 1: to the point where I was not ashamed of what
Speaker 1: I was doing. You know, I wanted the answers. I
Speaker 1: wanted as much as possible to learn the research and
Speaker 1: kind of hopefully maybe putting putting some kind of pattern together,
Speaker 1: you know. And sure enough, you know, I had I
Speaker 1: had business cards made up, you know, I was put
Speaker 1: I was leaving them everywhere I could. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: you're going to get your typical you know, uh, you.
Speaker 6: Know jokesters out there. I've gotten them.
Speaker 1: I had young girls calling up trying to leave a
Speaker 1: message on my plane. You can hear the other ones
Speaker 1: laughing in the background. You know, it's all a joke.
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, yeah, it comes from the territory. You're
Speaker 1: going to get that when you put yourself out there
Speaker 1: like that. But but then again, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: I met up with people, eyewitnesses, and yeah, you're gonna learn.
Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna meet a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 1: And at the same time, I've come to learn, you know,
Speaker 1: you have to keep an open mind on some of
Speaker 1: these stories. You know, you have to you know, take
Speaker 1: everything you hear with a grain of salt, because you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to believe these people, you know,
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like are they pulling your leg?
Speaker 1: You know? But you know, you kind of pick up
Speaker 1: in start developing a sense of I don't know the
Speaker 1: right way to put this, but you can start noticing
Speaker 1: when people are like really serious, the tone of boys,
Speaker 1: and you know, their body, you know, movement.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, even recently I met up with eyewitnesses.
Speaker 1: You know, some of these witnesses I've been meeting up
Speaker 1: with recently, their stories are not fresh, but their stories
Speaker 1: that I could still document, you know.
Speaker 6: Uh, I've done a lot of one on one interviews.
Speaker 1: I go out, you know, I'll meet with people. I
Speaker 1: got scheduled meetings with people now coming up, you know,
Speaker 1: both in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, you know, uh uh, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: South Carolina. So yeah, that's just the start of it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to get more involved with it.
Speaker 1: Part of you know, of course, a lot of it
Speaker 1: goes hand in hand with my my filming projects. Everybody
Speaker 1: I have scheduled to meet up with has agreed to
Speaker 1: let me film them, which is awesome. But yeah, like
Speaker 1: I said, ever since I've been involved, it's like the
Speaker 1: word of mouth has gotten around, you know, and people
Speaker 1: learn about me. So yeah, I want to, you know,
Speaker 1: get out there as much as possible. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm all about being glued from the ground, just so
Speaker 1: you know, there's so much you can do outside of
Speaker 1: the field. You know, I say that I pay attention
Speaker 1: to you know, people share podcasts with me all the time,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, it's funny. Even though I
Speaker 1: host the podcast myself, I'm the type of person when
Speaker 1: somebody shares the podcast, I mean, so, okay, cool, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you were on that podcast. But you know, it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm the type of person. I know. Maybe I'm selfish,
Speaker 1: but I go after podcasts where I use podcasts with
Speaker 1: my research. I look up in Google search or whatever,
Speaker 1: I do a search on YouTube. You know. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm in Virginia. I like to know how much more
Speaker 1: is out there in Virginia, you know. You know, of
Speaker 1: course I've expanded, you know, like I said, I've I've
Speaker 1: been up and down to the East Coast. So but
Speaker 1: being that I live here in Virginia, I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like Virginia is highly understigated.
Speaker 4: Oh for sure. For sure, you don't really hear that
Speaker 4: many people talk about Virginia in regards to Bigfoot. But
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's the prime habitat for these things.
Speaker 4: Do you run across a lot of people that are
Speaker 4: like aware that Bigfoot's around in that area?
Speaker 1: Yes, and now I mean at the same time, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's funny, it's it's some of
Speaker 1: the a lot of the older people that will come forward. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe you know, you think you would hear more
Speaker 1: from the younger people, but it's the older people that
Speaker 1: grew up here. You know, there's people that never really
Speaker 1: spoke to people, but it's like they develop a trust
Speaker 1: in you. It's like that somehow they get to know
Speaker 1: you or feel comfortable with you. Then the put up
Speaker 1: and start sharing stuff, you know. So, I mean, I've
Speaker 1: got a good group of people. I got a small
Speaker 1: resource group right here based out of Virginia, and these
Speaker 1: individuals know people that know people that know people.
Speaker 4: Is there a certain type of encounter that people have there?
Speaker 4: You know, like in the Pacific Northwest you hear a
Speaker 4: lot of you know, the kind of the silent you know,
Speaker 4: forest giant, you know, spirit of the woods type encounters
Speaker 4: or a fleeting glimpse of something or whatever, and then
Speaker 4: in the South you get more aggressive type encounters, it seems.
Speaker 4: Are there certain Is there a certain pattern that you
Speaker 4: you've noticed over the years where you're.
Speaker 1: At well, yes, I would say that a lot of
Speaker 1: the people I spoke to that have had sightings here
Speaker 1: based off of what I picked up learning from these
Speaker 1: eye witnesses, is that they are very curious.
Speaker 6: When I say they, I'm referring to this as squat.
Speaker 1: But whatever, It's just like people are. Some of these
Speaker 1: people have to be in the right place at the
Speaker 1: right time, you know. Of course, none of these people
Speaker 1: were looking for it, you know, you know, like for example,
Speaker 1: one of the most witness, the most recent eyewitness I
Speaker 1: met up with, she had a sighting on her sister's farm.
Speaker 1: You know, she goes over there to hang out, spend
Speaker 1: time with the horses, and you know, of course just
Speaker 1: in general with her her family there, and and she
Speaker 1: ended up seeing two of them are first to start
Speaker 1: off as only staying one and she was over about
Speaker 1: she wasn't far off from what the horse was, and
Speaker 1: she just so happened to look over and here's this
Speaker 1: large dark she she described it as very slender. But
Speaker 1: being you know, hearing that discrission as hearing a tall
Speaker 1: slender one. It's not the first time I heard this,
Speaker 1: you know, most important to hear all they're pretty wide,
Speaker 1: they're pretty bulky, and this has to be a tall,
Speaker 1: splendered black one.
Speaker 6: And then she said one that looked like almost like
Speaker 6: a whitish color.
Speaker 1: She described the other one as a white come walking
Speaker 1: up the side off the edge of the property by
Speaker 1: the tree line where the edge of the field is
Speaker 1: with the fences. Yeah, and you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: she didn't see that one right away. It was the tall, dark,
Speaker 1: slender one she first saw. You know, So I'm just
Speaker 1: using this one as an example. Like I said, it
Speaker 1: was just standing there, like what why are they there?
Speaker 1: You know, this family never had no reports of anything
Speaker 1: happening to their horses or they have cattle on the property.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, there's never been no history of any any of
Speaker 1: the cattle or their livestock missing or anything. But you know,
Speaker 1: in this particular area. I was actually glad to get
Speaker 1: out to this there because I've heard stories from this
Speaker 1: physical location where there's the sightings all around. I still
Speaker 1: have yet to meet up with another eyewitness who I've
Speaker 1: known for some time, this older, older woman who has
Speaker 1: been wanting to meet you meet up with her. She's
Speaker 1: been sharing information from you know, she's seen them out there,
Speaker 1: she's she said, Daniel, I still hear stuff around them
Speaker 1: around the property. I hear tree docks, and I hear
Speaker 1: weird sounds out here. And so it's like they this
Speaker 1: particular area which is way east of.
Speaker 6: Where I live.
Speaker 1: You know, they're like almost two hours east of me
Speaker 1: and outside of the mountains. But this particular area, there's
Speaker 1: a large lake there, and you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: there's been a history of different sightings and reports that
Speaker 1: in this area. And it's like it's time for me
Speaker 1: to stop ignoring this area. You know, here I am.
Speaker 1: I'm focusing more out in the mountains, and there's stuff
Speaker 1: going on way out here, you know. So, and I
Speaker 1: grew up not far from these people. You know, I
Speaker 1: didn't always live in a Shannolder Valley I live. I
Speaker 1: grew up east of the Blue Ridge, you know. And
Speaker 1: I live in a very small rural area, probably about
Speaker 1: forty five minutes from where these people have, you know,
Speaker 1: and Lake Anna, for example, anyone that let me listen
Speaker 1: here that's familiar with Louisa County, Virginia. Lake Anna is
Speaker 1: a lot of bigfoot reports. So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: activity out there. Of course, yes, they have a lot
Speaker 1: of bear out there too, there's bear hunters out there
Speaker 1: and everything else. But this area here is something I
Speaker 1: need to continue to focus on. So I have get
Speaker 1: to meet up with other people out there. But as
Speaker 1: far as other reports, you know, like I said, I've
Speaker 1: had people driving up the mountain.
Speaker 6: You know, a woman and her daughter some years ago.
Speaker 1: I remember meeting up with her. Uh it was it's
Speaker 1: that that roadway going up the mountain. It's actually a
Speaker 1: very busy active roadway because people travel, you know, east
Speaker 1: and west going over the top of that mountain on
Speaker 1: a part of the Blue Ridge. And you know, I
Speaker 1: recall she was driving up the road, you know, driving
Speaker 1: up the mountain side, and she took me to the
Speaker 1: exact location and she pointed, she showed me exactly where
Speaker 1: it was, and I you know, we did a reenactment
Speaker 1: at you know, we got there and everything else, you know,
Speaker 1: and you know, here's this she described, you I'm sick.
Speaker 1: I'm six foot tall, and she easily described as being
Speaker 1: two feet tall to me. So, you know, here we
Speaker 1: got an eight foot subject, you know, eight foot well
Speaker 1: she described as a big foot and very wide and broad,
Speaker 1: probably well over four feet wide. And she said this
Speaker 1: stood out like a sore film. As she was driving
Speaker 1: up the mountain, she's looking over and she her eyes
Speaker 1: are glued on what she's seeing. And her daughter is
Speaker 1: up in the front pastor to seat while she's looking
Speaker 1: at it. She's she says, she's tapping on her daughter's
Speaker 1: leg like what she's like again. At the same time,
Speaker 1: her eyes are glued on it, and she's like, dang
Speaker 1: iolmos went off the road staring at this thing. She said,
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe what the heck I was seeing. And
Speaker 1: she drives up. After they passed it, they go up
Speaker 1: to the top and she turns around and comes back
Speaker 1: down to try to look again, to get another look,
Speaker 1: because by.
Speaker 6: That time, she said, it was gone. So I said, wow,
Speaker 6: And you know, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I'm just wanting to these out there. These a
Speaker 1: couple of examples. So based off of what I believe
Speaker 1: for them to be very curious, you know, they'd like
Speaker 1: to get back and observe what's going on, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, they see all the traffic coming up and
Speaker 1: down these roads. Uh, you know, you know, I think
Speaker 1: in general, I think, you know, you know, like the
Speaker 1: other story I told you, they got horses and cattle.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if they're you know what
Speaker 1: what you know, what exactly it is that draws them
Speaker 1: to these areas. I mean, you know, I just think
Speaker 1: they're curious, you know, I want to be noisy, like
Speaker 1: what's going on on this property. There's horses here, there's
Speaker 1: cows here, you and stuff like that. And then then
Speaker 1: again in some answers you hear about children being involved
Speaker 1: when there's sightings occur, you know, uh, children and also females,
Speaker 1: you know, women in general. I can recall in my
Speaker 1: main research area the one area I used to venture
Speaker 1: into a lot, and you know, I would find some
Speaker 1: interesting things that would kind of stand out, like some
Speaker 1: of some odd ball up the tree structures that would
Speaker 1: be interesting to look at. But the whole time I
Speaker 1: get to go in this area by myself, not once
Speaker 1: have I ever heard anything. But I recall taking my
Speaker 1: daughter when she was just a young teenager. I had
Speaker 1: her with me one time and I took her in there.
Speaker 1: We went in and same as we got so far
Speaker 1: into this area, all of a sudden we he were
Speaker 1: hearing all these screams and whoops and hollers and all
Speaker 1: kinds of craziness. And She's like, daddy got those coyotes.
Speaker 6: And I know coyotes very well.
Speaker 1: Trust me. I've been around coyotes quite often, and I've
Speaker 1: heard them some close.
Speaker 6: A lot of them are distance and I.
Speaker 1: Know the way I solo coyote will sound versus the
Speaker 1: whole group of them. When we got onion and she
Speaker 1: asked me, she's a daddy, got those coyotes? I said, no,
Speaker 1: those are not coyotes. I mean, it sounded like you
Speaker 1: were walking into a primate exhibit at the zoo and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all the all the primates started
Speaker 1: going off and making her crazy sounds. You know, that's
Speaker 1: the best way I know how to describe it. It
Speaker 1: was like walking into a primate exhibit at the zoo,
Speaker 1: you know, and trust me, Yeah, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know how else to describe it, but that's the best
Speaker 1: way I can, you know. So you know I've been
Speaker 1: to you know, I've done a lot of solo ventures
Speaker 1: in the woods.
Speaker 6: I've been out and done a lot of I can
Speaker 6: explore by myself.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people say you go off
Speaker 1: every by yourself. Yeah, why not? You know, it's I
Speaker 1: know it's not safe. You know, people think it's irresponsible,
Speaker 1: but you should always take somebody with you, which I
Speaker 1: guess you know that's true. You know, it's safety is
Speaker 1: in numbers, right, But it's just I just always had
Speaker 1: a passion to go out there to event, you know,
Speaker 1: to adventure into these areas. You know, I don't have
Speaker 1: nobody's slow me down. I could move in my own
Speaker 1: pace and listen the way I you know, you know,
Speaker 1: just pick up on things that normally, if you have
Speaker 1: others with you, they're either talking or distracted by something.
Speaker 1: You know, they're not focusing on what we're there for,
Speaker 1: you know. But thank god, you know, I've got a
Speaker 1: good group that's with me now that is on alert
Speaker 1: and looking for what I look for. You know. They're
Speaker 1: their team, They're they're tone, they're tuned in to nature
Speaker 1: like I am, you know, And I will tell you
Speaker 1: the people I have involved with me now, with their backgrounds,
Speaker 1: it's it's actually been very beneficial, big time, it really has.
Speaker 1: They're very observative because for example, uh one of the
Speaker 1: couples that are part of my group, David and Melissa Lester,
Speaker 1: which they both met in the army. David is retired
Speaker 1: full time from the Army and also retired from a
Speaker 1: second career full time from the local law enforcement up here.
Speaker 1: And uh so, yeah, he's got two retirements under this belt,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, both military and and and
Speaker 1: law enforcement. You know, he's sixty seven over sixty eight
Speaker 1: years old, and you know, here's a gentleman who rus
Speaker 1: being out there, and we've actually experienced some interesting things,
Speaker 1: you know, together while we're out there doing in our
Speaker 1: investigations in the area we're focused in right now. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a up to this point, it has been
Speaker 1: quite the adventure. And you know, hopefully we might have
Speaker 1: answers someday. But you know, it's just when we experience
Speaker 1: things out there and we see things out there, it
Speaker 1: just leaves us scratching her head.
Speaker 6: You know, we want answers, but it leaves us with
Speaker 6: more questions, it really does.
Speaker 4: What kind of things are you experiencing in your area?
Speaker 4: Are people having sightings? Are you getting rock throwing, wood knocks,
Speaker 4: what kind of stuff's going on.
Speaker 1: I've actually had I've had to actually rock thrown at me, well,
Speaker 1: one in particularly it was about a football sized stone.
Speaker 5: It's pretty good rock.
Speaker 1: Actually, Yes, it is a real funny story about that.
Speaker 1: I was hiking up this trail. This is not in
Speaker 1: my main research here when this happened, but I was
Speaker 1: walking down this very down trail that went deep into
Speaker 1: the woods and I had the girl I was eating
Speaker 1: a time. She was with me, and she was you know,
Speaker 1: she was I don't know, I can't recall she was
Speaker 1: a full time believer, but she was interested in the subject.
Speaker 1: So but you know, she was like she agreed to
Speaker 1: go on a hike with me, you know. And then
Speaker 1: we're walking up for this now trail and we got
Speaker 1: to this one spot where it kind of slightly opened
Speaker 1: up a little bit. So and I had a smartphone
Speaker 1: at the time. This was some years ago. This is
Speaker 1: kind of like when smartphones were I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they had better ones out there. I had a
Speaker 1: smartphone I had was not the best quality. It was
Speaker 1: a key smartphone. So and you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: had a camera on it, so I took advantage of
Speaker 1: using the camera. And we're looking off the side of
Speaker 1: the trail. We're looking up. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of pig mountain wall through there and you can see
Speaker 1: beyond that it kind of went up that hill, and
Speaker 1: something caught her attention looking over there, like, what the
Speaker 1: heck is that something dark over there? So I pulled
Speaker 1: my phone out and I start recording, and I you know,
Speaker 1: I panned my phone open. I opened it up, you know,
Speaker 1: expanded a little the zoom in and I'm holding it
Speaker 1: the best I can, you know, because you know, with
Speaker 1: those phones, you can't pan in too much without it
Speaker 1: getting very shaky and the story looking right, And so
Speaker 1: we're holding I'm holding it up, but we're both looking
Speaker 1: through my phone and I'm holding it as steady as
Speaker 1: I can. And whatever it was up on the hill,
Speaker 1: you know, we can see something darker moving in the bushes,
Speaker 1: look at like it looked like it was kind of
Speaker 1: going up and down, maybe side to side and just
Speaker 1: nonchalant or whatever it was, just move around like what
Speaker 1: he's that? And it's funny because she says something. She said, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's a juvenile sasquatch. You can't make out what it is,
Speaker 1: but that's what she said. You can hear say that
Speaker 1: on the video. Yeah, it's on my it's one of
Speaker 1: my older videos on my YouTube channel, and some other
Speaker 1: YouTube channel network that shares a lot of other people's
Speaker 1: content shared it on theirs and uh, because I had
Speaker 1: people say, hey, look so and so pick up your
Speaker 1: YouTube video. We're sharing this radio Okay, cool? Well along
Speaker 1: story short, you know, yea. After viewing whatever we were viewing,
Speaker 1: I just thought, whatever, I ruled it off. It's probably
Speaker 1: just a small bear up on the hill side there,
Speaker 1: you know. So we continued up the trail, and when
Speaker 1: you get up to a certain point, there's a creek
Speaker 1: right there, and you have to be able to, you know,
Speaker 1: in order to continue on where the trail was, you
Speaker 1: have to cross that creek. Thank goodness, the water was
Speaker 1: fairly low and we were able to step across on
Speaker 1: the stones. And as soon as we get to the
Speaker 1: outside and we start working our way up on the trail,
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, right between me and her, she was
Speaker 1: right directly right behind me, like maybe a foot behind me,
Speaker 1: and this big stone comes flying boom, And I looked
Speaker 1: at her, looked at you know, look at down the ground,
Speaker 1: like what the heck was that, you know, And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I back up a little bit and
Speaker 1: I'm looking across from where we just came from. Of
Speaker 1: course you can't make that now again, it's really heavily
Speaker 1: a force over there. A lot of the I been
Speaker 1: thinking out Laura, and we're looking across over there, and
Speaker 1: as we're staying over there, somewhere in the background you hear.
Speaker 2: Wood and having that rock throwing and hearing that makes
Speaker 2: me think that, like I got to the point where, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe that wasn't a bear, maybe something.
Speaker 1: You know, we're being washed and we're got too close
Speaker 1: for comfort, and they want us out of the area.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna lie if I felt a little
Speaker 1: on the edge. I said, Okay, come on, we're going
Speaker 1: to continue up this trail. It comes up to it.
Speaker 1: I've been up here before and it comes to an
Speaker 1: opening up here. So we got up there, We got
Speaker 1: to the opening. We hung out there for a little while,
Speaker 1: and okay, it's like we got to head back out here,
Speaker 1: you know, to stay close to me.
Speaker 6: We got to go back down the same trail to
Speaker 6: get back.
Speaker 1: Out to where we came from, you know. So but
Speaker 1: sure enough, you know, we got back down there, we
Speaker 1: made our way back out of the field. We didn't
Speaker 1: have nothing happening you know after that.
Speaker 6: But that was the one moment I had a large.
Speaker 1: Thrown at me, and it was, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: the whole incident, you know, got me thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, yeah, we've probably got too close for comfort,
Speaker 1: because never had a rock thrown at me before. Out
Speaker 1: in the middle of the woods, you know, and this
Speaker 1: is you know, so it's like the other thing I
Speaker 1: think of if that wasn't a Sasquatch kid, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, unless there was a person over there hiding.
Speaker 1: I mean, they had a pretty good strong arm to
Speaker 1: throw that rock across that creek, you know, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, like I said, they had me on edge.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got too close for comfort.
Speaker 1: They wanted us away from the area. You know, I felt, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've heard I've actually met up with other
Speaker 1: white eyewitnesses in the other locations where they've had rock
Speaker 1: thrown at them wall horseback going down trail, you know.
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, the only thing I can
Speaker 1: think of when it comes to that, I believe they
Speaker 1: don't want you in that area. I believe it's a warning,
Speaker 1: you know, could they hit I mean I believe they
Speaker 1: could have hit hit one of us if they really
Speaker 1: wanted to, and they got it pretty darn close. So so,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was some years ago, but more recently
Speaker 1: here during one of our recent campus you know, we
Speaker 1: have stuff happened right at camp as well. To be
Speaker 1: more specific, I mean, we want to relate it to
Speaker 1: more of the par paranormal you know, no, And for
Speaker 1: the record, I want to be clear about this. And David,
Speaker 1: my buddy, David is part of our group. He knows
Speaker 1: for a fact, I was never getting involved with paranormal
Speaker 1: He knows I don't. I didn't get involved, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't ever do any paranormal research or anything like this.
Speaker 1: But we're in a very particular area which we're slowly
Speaker 1: learning more about the history of this location. It's very primitive.
Speaker 1: We've come across out in the middle of the woods.
Speaker 1: There's old remnants of a foundation to homesteads that once
Speaker 1: existed out there. You know, we don't know if people
Speaker 1: died out there. We don't know what happened out there.
Speaker 1: But there has been bigfoot reports in this area. And
Speaker 1: one of those bigfoot reports came from a group, not
Speaker 1: a group, but a couple that camped to camping to
Speaker 1: this one year, uh where the wife thought she saw
Speaker 1: a bear.
Speaker 6: Well, for example, I'll run you guys through that real quick.
Speaker 1: Well, her and her husband from from our campsite, they
Speaker 1: drove up the fourth road and now there's a small
Speaker 1: lake in the area. But in order to get excuse me,
Speaker 1: in order to get there, you have to drive up
Speaker 1: and park at the gate and walk in three quarters
Speaker 1: of a mile. Well, as they were pulling up into
Speaker 1: that little lot, they were turning in, and the wife
Speaker 1: and the passage, he was looking over and at the gate.
Speaker 1: I'm just on the other side of the gate. She said.
Speaker 1: She's telling her husband there's a bear over there, you know.
Speaker 1: And then and that was it. She did get into
Speaker 1: know other details. So after they got back to the
Speaker 1: camp and now started telling Wilson David that was still there.
Speaker 1: And when she started sharing details, she said, it stood.
Speaker 1: It was standing there by the time, by the tree
Speaker 1: that was overhanging by the gate, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it ran across real fast and went down into
Speaker 1: the ravine and whatever. And so wait a minute, they
Speaker 1: were like, what what do you mean it ran across?
Speaker 1: She said, yeah, it was on two feet and it
Speaker 1: ran across. Like wait a minute. And this woman, like
Speaker 1: her husband will tell you, she's she's a steady slicker.
Speaker 1: She's never seen wildlife before, you know, maybe a deer,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe deer, but she's never seen a bear
Speaker 1: in real life. And here she talked about this thing
Speaker 1: was on two feet. Of course, all the details were
Speaker 1: coming out after she got back. She yeah, I stood
Speaker 1: out there and then ran across real fast on two feet.
Speaker 1: It was black bears don't run on two feet, you know.
Speaker 1: They've been known to stand up on two feet, maybe
Speaker 1: walk a short distance, but you never hear of a
Speaker 1: bear running on two feet, especially as fast as she
Speaker 1: covert So so here and now I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: why you know? Now they did a reenactment of this.
Speaker 1: I had, you know, I had to argue left. This
Speaker 1: was towards the end of our camp. I had already
Speaker 1: left before everyone. So they agreed to do it. They
Speaker 1: actually did a short film on this where the husband
Speaker 1: was interviewing her. She was getting the details in the
Speaker 1: location to where she saw it and everything else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm convinced that she did see something, you know,
Speaker 1: which is interesting. Now. Years prior to this, I've been
Speaker 1: shared pictures of large humanoid tracks in just a few
Speaker 1: inches of snow in the same general area, just on
Speaker 1: some of the backgrounds that surround this area. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: always heard of different things about this location. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've heard of mountain lions in this area, which here
Speaker 1: on the East coast, mountain lions are not supposed to
Speaker 1: exist here, but there's large reports of them, you know,
Speaker 1: So that's another area that that's another thing that drew
Speaker 1: my interest in us to pay attention to this area
Speaker 1: because I I'm fascinated with mountain lions, you know, as
Speaker 1: well as bigot and other cryptis. But however, some of
Speaker 1: the experiences we've had out there, again I want to
Speaker 1: contribute to. We want to say paranormal, but you know,
Speaker 1: I don't love that if it's proper to.
Speaker 6: Really say that.
Speaker 1: But you know, again, paranormal for people, when you say
Speaker 1: the paranormala think of ghosts and spirits and this and that.
Speaker 1: But things paranormal is something where there's occurrences a phenomenon
Speaker 1: that are not easily explained. So you know, that's kind
Speaker 1: of how I look at it. Like I said, we've
Speaker 1: had devices that are camp brand new devices, fully charged,
Speaker 1: go dead out of nowhere from you know. We've had
Speaker 1: devices turned on on their own, you know, which has
Speaker 1: been very strange and bizarre. Now, one particular night, we
Speaker 1: were doing one of our night hips. It was we
Speaker 1: had people we had a few people left that base
Speaker 1: camp because they can't really be on feet that, you know,
Speaker 1: foot on too long as towards hiking as long as
Speaker 1: we do, you know, it's cool. We like to have
Speaker 1: people at base camp anyway, you know, kanacky bye on
Speaker 1: things while the rest of the group, you know, we'll
Speaker 1: go out and explore and you know, see what we
Speaker 1: can find here or whatever. So as we're working our
Speaker 1: way back towards our base camp, you know, we're It
Speaker 1: was probably about between ten I want to say it
Speaker 1: was between ten and eleven o'clock at night. We're walking
Speaker 1: down the forest road and David was probably about maybe
Speaker 1: ten feet out in front of me, and he was like, Daniel,
Speaker 1: there's a light over there in the woods. And I
Speaker 1: walk down towards him and I'll look over, Holy crap,
Speaker 1: what the heck is that? And sure enough we're looking
Speaker 1: at this big round ball alike. I mean, me and
Speaker 1: him describe it slightly different. I think I describe it
Speaker 1: as seeing it a little bit bigger than what he
Speaker 1: describes it. But at the distance, if I had to
Speaker 1: describe the size of it, it looked like the size of
Speaker 1: the basketball. And what I saw it was a round
Speaker 1: ball light. And here's what's interesting. It wasn't moving like
Speaker 1: you know, some people describe or just floating and moving around. However,
Speaker 1: what I saw was a round ball light. It did
Speaker 1: not illuminate nothing around it, which was strange, nor did
Speaker 1: to project a bean like. Yeah, it did not project
Speaker 1: a being like a flashlight. And we seen it for
Speaker 1: a good few seconds or so, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it went out. Immediately, thinking that maybe there's somebody
Speaker 1: over there, I had it, you know, I couldn't dismiss
Speaker 1: that immediately. I pulled it out my thermal. I started
Speaker 1: viewing the area and I didn't pick up no heat,
Speaker 1: cigres or anything over in the area.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: Dave was like, stay there. David walked down, he didn't
Speaker 1: turn the lights, and he was walking in total darkness.
Speaker 1: He walked down the fourth road so far and pulled
Speaker 1: out his fermal to try to capture in a different angle.
Speaker 1: I stayed folksing. I couldn't pick nothing up, nothing moving,
Speaker 1: no heat whatsoever. And I got a really good thermal imagery.
Speaker 1: It was nothing over there. Nothing. I don't understand it.
Speaker 1: I mean, how long ago was this? That was actually
Speaker 1: back in May? Yeah, because we do group campus usually
Speaker 1: in May and September, so it was Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: last May.
Speaker 5: Was that the first time you've seen something like that?
Speaker 1: The first time I seen lights? No, not me. The
Speaker 1: first time I seen lights was two years ago when
Speaker 1: I was in Pennsylvania. Because I've spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time in Pennsylvania doing some research, I've done a lot
Speaker 1: of camping up there. And it was two different times
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania I've seen lights, and these lights were different
Speaker 1: than what we saw here in Virginia. The first time
Speaker 1: I've seen lights, which is very weird. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to describe these other than seeing stars in the woods.
Speaker 1: And it was during the month of January. It was
Speaker 1: between January and February. And I'll run you through that
Speaker 1: story real quick. As I was the girl I was with,
Speaker 1: we wanted the area to go start checking out. She
Speaker 1: was very very much involved with a big for herself,
Speaker 1: and you know, we were like, okay, you know, she said,
Speaker 1: there's a state forest so many miles away from here.
Speaker 1: So during the daytime one time we went to school,
Speaker 1: were riding around checking out the areas and stuff. I said, man,
Speaker 1: this is beautiful out here. You know, we won the
Speaker 1: area where we were trying to find an area where
Speaker 1: we were come out and park and just hang out,
Speaker 1: you know. One evening and after riding around for along, like,
Speaker 1: we found a location. I said, okay, we're going to
Speaker 1: come back out here to see you know, this was
Speaker 1: earlier in the day. We came back out there. Now,
Speaker 1: I mind you this Ara, this particular era we were at.
Speaker 1: She it was a small field. You know, there was
Speaker 1: these boulders that came across the edge of the field
Speaker 1: at one side, and of course he get into the
Speaker 1: woods brand you so, you know, again we got out there.
Speaker 1: You know, we were dressed pretty warm. It was very
Speaker 1: very cold, and you know, we were there for some
Speaker 1: time and you know, stayed there after it got dark
Speaker 1: and She's sitting down on one of the lower boulders
Speaker 1: and I'm like three boulders back and I'm standing on
Speaker 1: top of her. She's sitting down facing out one direction,
Speaker 1: and it was quiet. We weren't hearing nothing, no animals
Speaker 1: out nothing, you know. I was like, man, we should
Speaker 1: be hearing something out here, staying quiet out here, And
Speaker 1: just for the hack of it, you know, I said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give off a couple woofs, you know,
Speaker 1: just just for ships and giggles.
Speaker 6: And I do that.
Speaker 1: I dude, who whoo? Two times? And right after that
Speaker 1: it wasn't wrong. Right after that, straight out in front
Speaker 1: of me in my direction, you could clearly hear wood
Speaker 1: on wood knock. And then a second one happens, but
Speaker 1: it don't only it came down straight out in front
Speaker 1: of where she was knock. I was like, did you
Speaker 1: hear that? She's yeah, and she was all excited because
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, I was excited. I don't
Speaker 1: know who was excited more. But but we got responses.
Speaker 6: To you know, I wasn't expecting nothing, you know, it
Speaker 6: was just whatever.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, she's telling me from her position,
Speaker 1: she said, I got I'm seeing eye shine over here.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm looking, I'm not seeing nothing from
Speaker 1: my own position, you know, And so I was like,
Speaker 1: I got down. I walked over to where she was at.
Speaker 1: I sat down right beside her. Where where are you
Speaker 1: seeing eye shine at? Now? I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: she might be seeing deer or something, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of gear in this area. So I'm looking over us,
Speaker 1: like I don't see eye shine. I'm staying, but I'm
Speaker 1: standing there. I'm trying to focus on what she's looking at.
Speaker 1: Now what I started seeing is she didn't say nothing about.
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was seeing the same thing
Speaker 1: right away or not. All of a sudden, I started
Speaker 1: seeing these different oddball little flashes of lights that looked
Speaker 1: like stars in a cluster. Like I was seeing red,
Speaker 1: I was seeing blue, and I was seeing a few
Speaker 1: that looked like yellow. I said, are you seeing those
Speaker 1: little stars in the woods right there? She's yeah. I said, well,
Speaker 1: I don't see your eye shine. I'm seeing something like
Speaker 1: I'm telling her exactly what I'm seeing. She said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to see that too. But you know, apart
Speaker 1: from the eye shine again, I just see nothing that
Speaker 1: resembled eye shine. I'm just seeing these little sparkles and
Speaker 1: flashes in the woods, and being as cold as it was,
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that these weren't lightning bugs.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just seeing something. I'm just seeing something
Speaker 1: I can't explain. Now she has a different fairy and
Speaker 1: a different belief system. She said, what we're seeing, She said,
Speaker 1: that's that's energy that bigfoots putting. Now, I never heard
Speaker 1: such a thing. You know, here, I'm pretty objective on
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, but you know, that's like I
Speaker 1: don't know where her belief system came from, but you know,
Speaker 1: here I am. I was like, hey, well I'm going
Speaker 1: to consider that, you know. I'm just you know, I'm
Speaker 1: at the point where I got to keep you mind.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know if there's any truth
Speaker 1: behind that. I mean, I've spoken to others where they
Speaker 1: believe that too, but I don't know. That was just
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever seen any kind of weird
Speaker 1: lights of the woods at all period, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, you hear about it over the years and everything,
Speaker 4: So I mean, I just kind of wanted to get
Speaker 4: your take. I know you had heard about people seeing
Speaker 4: orbs and stuff before, and oh yeah, you went a
Speaker 4: really long time without seeing any lights and now you
Speaker 4: see lights. So I mean, exactly do you think it's
Speaker 4: connected to Bigfoot somehow?
Speaker 1: Well, as much as I want to say yes, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't do that yet, you know, because it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we could assume and say yes it is,
Speaker 1: but what proof do we have of that, you know.
Speaker 1: So I mean, however, I will add on a few
Speaker 1: months later. I think it was in the month of May.
Speaker 1: This is up in Trannsylvania. I was with a different
Speaker 1: group of people, a small group of people, you know,
Speaker 1: where we camp out and we were investigating the location.
Speaker 1: Now out of the whole situation there, uh, I will
Speaker 1: dain the forest.
Speaker 6: The first Sin of Lights was in Forbes State Forest,
Speaker 6: blue Hole Division for those who know.
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and the state Forest up here again, that was
Speaker 1: that took place in Forbes State Forest in the Blue
Speaker 1: Hole Division. Now a few months later, several miles away,
Speaker 1: we're in another part of the four State Forest, but
Speaker 1: we're in the Mount Davis Division. For the record, Mount
Speaker 1: Davis has the highest elevation in the state of Virginia.
Speaker 6: I mean, excuse me, the state of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Which is only about three thousand feet, which is Virginia averages.
Speaker 1: Our mountains in Virginia average three three thousand up to
Speaker 1: five thousand in August six thousand. But you know, this
Speaker 1: particular area, I didn't know much about the area. We
Speaker 1: just learned of this area where we could set up camp.
Speaker 1: We camp there and I don't remember one night it was.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to say it was
Speaker 1: the first night. It could have been the second night.
Speaker 1: Maybe I can't recall what night it was. Well from
Speaker 1: where our campsite was. You know, I was walking away
Speaker 1: from where all the tents were, and I was looking
Speaker 1: across the other side from where we pulled in and
Speaker 1: on the other side where it's all picked force over area.
Speaker 1: I'm looking over there, whoaave me? What is that? All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I see these four different lights. Now
Speaker 1: I say different, but there they all had the same color,
Speaker 1: except some some were a little bit bigger. I would say,
Speaker 1: some like at least two of them I could describe
Speaker 1: just a little bit bigger than a softball. And there was,
Speaker 1: like I said, there was a total four of them.
Speaker 1: They weren't in a straight road, but they weren't. They
Speaker 1: were spread apart, and they kind of like zig zag,
Speaker 1: you know, they weren't in a straight pair. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking at them, and the way I can describe them,
Speaker 1: they looked like a blue deal dim light, you know,
Speaker 1: four bluish dim lights. And I just I just stayed
Speaker 1: there looking at them for the longest time. They didn't
Speaker 1: go anywhere, they didn't move, you know, so I don't
Speaker 1: know what I was looking at, you know, And the
Speaker 1: thought was like, maybe there's not maybe there's a house
Speaker 1: over there. I don't know. But I walked away. I
Speaker 1: went to tell the others that were you know what
Speaker 1: I was saying. I said, guys, there's some lights over
Speaker 1: there in the woods. And eventually a couple of the
Speaker 1: others they all end up walking over by the tamp
Speaker 1: we came back, I wasn't seeing them no more. They
Speaker 1: weren't there, So I was like, Okay. The next day
Speaker 1: I was like, we gotta go look. I gotta go
Speaker 1: look over there.
Speaker 6: I went in there and I walked through the woods.
Speaker 1: Never man, I said, there's no houses over here, you know,
Speaker 1: And I ended up pulling up on Google Maps of
Speaker 1: the location you were in. I started researching the area,
Speaker 1: looking on the maps, the woods on top of the
Speaker 1: woods over there. Eventually you keep going yet you'll come
Speaker 1: through like a farm field way beyond there, but there's
Speaker 1: nothing that would pick up. There's no Yeah, what were
Speaker 1: what was I seen in the trees over there? You know?
Speaker 6: There was four round bluish gym lights, you know, So, yeah,
Speaker 6: that was strange.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, in the Bigfoot world, especially on the Internet,
Speaker 4: you hear people talking about all sorts of paranormal things
Speaker 4: in regards to Bigfoot. You know, the mind speak portals,
Speaker 4: cloaking all of it. Have you gotten any actual paranormal
Speaker 4: type reports from witnesses.
Speaker 1: And you asked the no. I mean, I mean as
Speaker 1: far as I've learned more about hearing people talking about
Speaker 1: seeing orbs.
Speaker 6: Now people, you know, when I described and.
Speaker 1: Share this, you know life, I've seen, you know, to
Speaker 1: others like, yeah, you've seen orbs, you've seen this, you've
Speaker 1: seen blah blah blah. Right, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you hear about orbs, you hear, I mean,
Speaker 1: you hear about orbs. They usually move around these every light.
Speaker 1: Besides besides the first sort of lights that were flashing
Speaker 1: like little stars, Yeah, they were fluctuating, they were in
Speaker 1: a cluster and what something kind of panned.
Speaker 6: Out a little bit.
Speaker 1: But seeing the lights at the one camp and then
Speaker 1: seeing the light here in Virginia and they were stationary,
Speaker 1: they weren't moving, So you know, it makes you really
Speaker 1: wonder what were we seeing? What was manifesting that? You know,
Speaker 1: what was you know, could that be related? What could
Speaker 1: it be something totally different because they'd be spirits, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I try to keep an over mind on
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But but the more I dug
Speaker 1: into it, and I started researching. There was there was
Speaker 1: one podcast that came from I don't know who the
Speaker 1: individual was, but I commented in the in the in
Speaker 1: the comments, hoping that maybe that individual might find me
Speaker 1: or reach out to me. But uh, not only did
Speaker 1: they have bigfoot experiences of sightings here in Virginia, but
Speaker 1: one of the main things they talked about was seeing
Speaker 1: these flights on this property that was part of where
Speaker 1: the Civil War, you know it took place, or where
Speaker 1: the Civil War soldiers passed through at some point in time.
Speaker 1: They were seeing these forbes floating and moving around the
Speaker 1: edge of the property, you know, and and on the
Speaker 1: same properties where they had big productivity. And then of
Speaker 1: course this was down in southwest Virginia, somewhere you know,
Speaker 1: few a few hours south of me. However, you know,
Speaker 1: hearing different stories and reports, I've actually did some research
Speaker 1: on the era we've been in come to find out
Speaker 1: this area, and I'll go ahead and name it. I'll
Speaker 1: name the town in the area. I won't pinpoint the
Speaker 1: you know, the exact location of what we had our experiences,
Speaker 1: but I will say the town, folks, one Virginia f
Speaker 1: U L K s Falks one in Virginia. Now again
Speaker 1: we want answers, so we're doing all the research we
Speaker 1: can on the location. So Falks one, Virginia has a
Speaker 1: history of bigfoot, paranormal and everything in between. And then
Speaker 1: I the more I read, I came across a section
Speaker 1: about seeing strange lights in the woods. What that's what
Speaker 1: I want to hear. That's what I want, you know,
Speaker 1: I said, I screenshoted this information. I sent it to
Speaker 1: day that said. Look, I said, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: between him and his wife, they're doing research. They're looking
Speaker 1: up information for me right now, for all of us.
Speaker 1: You know, we're trying to learn more about the history
Speaker 1: of this location. Because you won't hear from what I
Speaker 1: looked up. You don't hear the history of this location online.
Speaker 1: You want to know more about this location, you have
Speaker 1: to go to the local libraries or historical sites and
Speaker 1: read stuff in person. They don't have stuff online over
Speaker 1: the ear, which is weird. You know, most places you
Speaker 1: would hear something online about something. But from what I
Speaker 1: found out online that the Fault Run area is known
Speaker 1: for seeing strange lights in the woods and moving around.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I just found that fascinating.
Speaker 1: I said, well, well, we experienced a strange light. We
Speaker 1: don't know what the heck it was, but we did, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, of course. And like again, there's other reports
Speaker 1: throughout the state of Virginia that have seen strange lights.
Speaker 1: And yes, they're just having to be big foot sightings
Speaker 1: in these areas too with a strange lights. Is it
Speaker 1: a coincidence? Maybe? I don't know, so yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't say I've heard any other strange
Speaker 1: things besides seeing strange lights related or having a big
Speaker 1: foot sight in nearby in other locations, I can't really say,
Speaker 1: like I've never heard of anything cloaking, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: or or people seeing a bigfoot disappear from out you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I've heard those stories, but not here in Virginia,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean other secondhand reports. But so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, none of reports I've ever gathered ever, no
Speaker 1: one ever pointed out was shared that.
Speaker 6: They've seen anything strange or bizarre related to.
Speaker 1: It, others seeing the physical physical you know, bigfoot sasquatch
Speaker 1: in person, you know. But yeah, I never heard anything otherwise,
Speaker 1: not in my not in my reports in investigations here in Virginia.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be clear on that. So but but
Speaker 1: everything I've always heard or you know, when I spoke
Speaker 1: with eyewitnesses, every thing's been a physical aspect.
Speaker 5: So do you ever hear any dog man sightings?
Speaker 1: Now it's funny you do that. Yeah, you mentioned that. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have, and I want to clearly state this with
Speaker 1: the record, you know. And you know, I saw a
Speaker 1: lot of people what I've been asked about dogmen before,
Speaker 1: and I was like, please don't ask me. You know. No.
Speaker 1: The reason I say that is because I don't believe
Speaker 1: in dog man. But I've heard stories firsthand from people. Uh.
Speaker 1: I host a Virginia Big for conference every year. I've
Speaker 1: been doing it for seven years. Towards the end of
Speaker 1: my last conference back in June, I had one guy
Speaker 1: pulled me aside. We went to the side room. He
Speaker 1: shared the story with me, and I know the location
Speaker 1: where he's talking about. It's in between where my main
Speaker 1: research area is and it's like and where we're where
Speaker 1: me and my group is focusing.
Speaker 6: The location is basically right in the middle.
Speaker 1: It's like if he went through a straight line, it's
Speaker 1: basically split in the middle and this area it's border
Speaker 1: it's in Virginia, but it's borderline in the state of
Speaker 1: West Virginia.
Speaker 6: And I know again, I know there's a location very well.
Speaker 1: He was down there. I forget what year it was,
Speaker 1: but I know. He said there was a little bit
Speaker 1: of snow on the ground. It was just a few
Speaker 1: inches of snow, and he was down there. He was fishing,
Speaker 1: and when he was telling me a story he said,
Speaker 1: he said, he couldn't help but feel like there was
Speaker 1: something there watching him. And while he was bent over
Speaker 1: getting into his tackle box whatever, getting some whatever he
Speaker 1: was using for bait or whatever he was doing, he
Speaker 1: started hearing something and all of a sudden, he was
Speaker 1: like he was still bent over, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he starts to lift his head up. And I
Speaker 1: want to say it was probably I can't remember if.
Speaker 1: He said twenty thirty feet right off the head of
Speaker 1: the tree line. He looks over and he sees this
Speaker 1: dark figure hunched over with a tail, and he looks
Speaker 1: stuff at it. He said, here's the thing, larger than
Speaker 1: a German shepherd on black on two feet, hunched over
Speaker 1: kind of looking at him like. But the details, he
Speaker 1: went into some pretty deep details, and you know I'm
Speaker 1: kind of cutting through what I recall him telling me.
Speaker 1: But the way, the way he talked about the story
Speaker 1: and the way it led up to everything. Now, I
Speaker 1: will tell you a lot of people's stories. When I
Speaker 1: hear reports, A lot of times I get not all
Speaker 1: the time, but a lot of times. If I get
Speaker 1: drawn into the story where I'm visualizing what the what
Speaker 1: the witness is sharing with me, I tend to believe
Speaker 1: that these people are telling something real, they see something,
Speaker 1: and you know, and the way he described it and
Speaker 1: the way he was talking to me, this guy really
Speaker 1: saw what he said, what he said he saw. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was feeling it, yeah, you know, and right here
Speaker 1: I am, and you know, I'm I'm I'm like I said,
Speaker 1: when it comes to big I mean, uh, dog man
Speaker 1: in your hand, these kind of reports with a dog
Speaker 1: man or a wolf, a werewolf, I'm not. I was
Speaker 1: never a believer in this, but his story made me
Speaker 1: really think otherwise, you know, like what the heck is? See?
Speaker 1: You know, where where are these coming from? I mean,
Speaker 1: if document is really I mean, it's just I'll tell
Speaker 1: you the reason why it's hard for me to believe
Speaker 1: in dog man versus Bigfoot. There's a deep history on Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: there is, you know, I mean the history of bigfoot
Speaker 1: type means go across the count of the whole world,
Speaker 1: you know, in several continents, in several countries. I mean
Speaker 1: just the Native Americans or Native Americans alone. You know,
Speaker 1: I have so much detail. You know again, you know,
Speaker 1: something like a Bigfoot and the way I look at Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: it's just me a Bigfoot makes more sense than any
Speaker 1: other cryptis. It's just where would the document I'm from.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I don't hear of a history
Speaker 1: of dog man. You know, you don't hear about that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Uh, It's not as common as a
Speaker 1: bigfoot type creature, you know. It's just so it's always
Speaker 1: been hard for me to comprehend, you know, a humanoid dog.
Speaker 1: You know. So it's it's just to me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that people out there are like
Speaker 1: this guy don't always talk about you know, I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: you know, I just don't know.
Speaker 6: I just never made sense to me.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: But no, I'm the I'm the same way. I'm the
Speaker 4: same exact way, you know, Like uh, like you're saying,
Speaker 4: I've definitely talked to some people where I believe them,
Speaker 4: and that's where I have the conflict because in my
Speaker 4: brain it doesn't make any sense exactly.
Speaker 6: I mean, I wanted to make sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to be able to understand things
Speaker 1: that's said. I mean, you know, like I said, I'll
Speaker 1: repeat this in there's a history of Bigfoot, you know,
Speaker 1: not just in North America. I mean there's South America.
Speaker 1: We know, different parties throughout Asia. I mean, look, even
Speaker 1: Australia has got a big Foot related bigot being, you know,
Speaker 1: the Awi or whatever, you know. And so I mean
Speaker 1: there's so much out there that relates the Bigfoot in history,
Speaker 1: you know, Dayton. You know, we can go probably almost
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand, I mean a hundred years ago. I
Speaker 1: mean that's just one hundred years ago, but way beyond that,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I mean there's a story about
Speaker 1: Leif Erickson. Now there's speculation, there's that's a debatable story,
Speaker 1: but there's a you know, Leif Erickson, the great explorer,
Speaker 1: Viking explorer. You know that him and his men supposedly
Speaker 1: encountered the savage beast covered in hair. You know that
Speaker 1: we're kind of tall, you know, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, again, there's not much detail on that. So
Speaker 1: you know, some people say, oh, now they just they
Speaker 1: just encountered the Natives that we're here. We don't know that.
Speaker 6: But the way they describe them.
Speaker 1: They were Paul Harry, smelly looking beats, you know, So
Speaker 1: what the heck do they see? You know? I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, some stories where Native Americans were covered
Speaker 1: in animal hair, you know, furs and hairs, but I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe they saw something else. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I mean I always found that to be fascinating,
Speaker 1: you know, itsell. But that was back in around nine
Speaker 1: back in the nine hundreds, you know, ad you know.
Speaker 4: So I wanted to ask you about your current film
Speaker 4: project that you're working on. What what is that?
Speaker 1: So yeah, now, for the record, I mean I'm not
Speaker 1: no professional professional film artists or you know, I'm independent.
Speaker 1: But however, with our bigfoot research that we do, our investigations,
Speaker 1: our campounds, you know, over the years, I mean, for
Speaker 1: anyone who's followed my YouTube channel, I mean I've always
Speaker 1: done field videos, a lot of them. I've always been
Speaker 1: solo and you know, very independent with my field videos.
Speaker 1: You know, of course, a lot of people find my
Speaker 1: field videos boring because I don't claim to have big
Speaker 1: foot in them. I go out there and do the
Speaker 1: research and I like to make them informative and educational
Speaker 1: and share my sceniory let people see where I go. However,
Speaker 1: same thing with what we're doing with our group Campouse.
Speaker 1: We go out there, were a very laid back, chill group.
Speaker 1: You know. We go out there to have fun. You know,
Speaker 1: we love camping out. We have fellowship together, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: we do we take the research very serious. You know.
Speaker 1: We go out through explore and you know, we go
Speaker 1: out there looking for answers, look for evidence, and if
Speaker 1: we find things or experience things, hopefully we do capture
Speaker 1: them on camera, which we were able to capture a
Speaker 1: few interesting things on camera. The whole light situation. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm kicking myself with the butt. I had my camp order,
Speaker 1: but it was not recording at the time when David
Speaker 1: first noticed it and I saw it, So not everything
Speaker 1: gets captured on camp I'm unfortunately.
Speaker 6: That's the staff thing about it.
Speaker 1: But as far as me filming everything that we do
Speaker 1: along with eyewitnesses to our investigations, our field explorations. I
Speaker 1: wanted the way to spread awareness. Over the years, I've
Speaker 1: been big about spreading awareness about what we do and
Speaker 1: what I do my research. You know, we try to
Speaker 1: keep things educational. We try to keep things informative. And no,
Speaker 1: we're not the exhibition bigfoot crew. We're not finding big
Speaker 1: for it. We don't have a production crew following us around.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: We don't add things in there for the entertainment for
Speaker 1: the viewers. What you see is what you get. But
Speaker 1: you know, I started talking to some of my other
Speaker 1: friends that do you know they do other horror films
Speaker 1: and they do films, you know, they're all independent film producers.
Speaker 1: And I was talking to one friend when they even
Speaker 1: know It's like, you know, I would love to find
Speaker 1: a way to put my research out there more. I said, Look,
Speaker 1: I said, I've been filming in my campouse, I've been
Speaker 1: filming our research. I would love to put the word
Speaker 1: out there to reach a product audience other than YouTube,
Speaker 1: you know, because everything I share is usually goes on YouTube,
Speaker 1: you know, and we.
Speaker 6: Talk about it on our podcast.
Speaker 1: We have roundtable discussions where we openly talk about our
Speaker 1: experiences and this and that. Plus, I, you know, just
Speaker 1: like what you do with me. I mean, I have eyewitnesses.
Speaker 1: I interviewed on YouTube too. So well, a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: Matt Burns out of West Virginia, and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: look i'm gonna send you. I'm gonna connect you with
Speaker 1: a buddy of mine. He's he's also a film producer
Speaker 1: and he's, uh, he does film distribution. He could get
Speaker 1: you connected with a streaming network, you know, and distribute
Speaker 1: you and do this blah blah.
Speaker 6: But I'll let you guys talk about it.
Speaker 1: I'll connect you guys. You guys go about it from there.
Speaker 1: So sure enough, I end up meeting talking with this gentleman,
Speaker 1: Shane Michaels is his name. He's based out of Indiana,
Speaker 1: I believe he's Yeah, he's based out of Indiana, and
Speaker 1: so I have to talk with him. He's like, well, look,
Speaker 1: this is what I could do for you. You know,
Speaker 1: I had a side contract with him and everything. It's
Speaker 1: part of the agreement to go along with him, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, blah blah blah. I don't get into all
Speaker 1: the more details. So that's where the filming where I
Speaker 1: was able to expand my filming project where hopefully here
Speaker 1: soon it was supposed to start up back in October,
Speaker 1: the streaming network got messed up and hopefully here in
Speaker 1: another week or two. What we have filmed so far
Speaker 1: and where where I sent in should get should start streaming? Uh,
Speaker 1: and that will be on the FOSS and TV network.
Speaker 1: There is another Yeah, there is another network. It's it's
Speaker 1: not like FLOSS and I. Uh, this one here, I
Speaker 1: never heard of it before. It's uh, it's e c
Speaker 1: U s A t V. It's called you know, it's
Speaker 1: just East Coast us A t V. Uh. This individual
Speaker 1: basically he has.
Speaker 6: A website where he puts on all the films on
Speaker 6: his website, you know.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's an actual network work or
Speaker 1: a platform you can find on streaming. But so the
Speaker 1: Floss and TV network will be the main streaming I
Speaker 1: guess eventually down the road it will be expanded to
Speaker 1: other streaming networks. So so yeah, I mean as far as,
Speaker 1: like I said, as far as the filming goes, like
Speaker 1: I'm the film producer, you know, I don't, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't have anybody to film. So our our series
Speaker 1: that we have with the group is called Bigfoot explorers,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 6: And uh, like I said, it's.
Speaker 1: A streaming it will be a streaming film series with
Speaker 1: our group Campouts and us. You know it'll be it's
Speaker 1: it's a fun show. If you're expecting to see a
Speaker 1: bit foot in it, you know, we're not going to
Speaker 1: add you know, we don't add fake stuff in there
Speaker 1: for your you know, they keep the viewers going. Again,
Speaker 1: it's the real deal. But see we're raw, We're boots
Speaker 1: on the ground. It's again it's there's no narration to it.
Speaker 1: You know, we're we're raw footage. It's basically what you see.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean our video footage. The quality of
Speaker 1: it's pretty decent. I mean, I mean I have a
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars camp order us, you know, so you know,
Speaker 1: and I have a four K. Some of the footage
Speaker 1: I used with my phone. I got four K recording
Speaker 1: off my phone, you know, So there's bitter pieces. I
Speaker 1: do use my phone, but most of it I do
Speaker 1: use the camcorder because you know, it's got the features
Speaker 1: that I really need and the quality that's put out
Speaker 1: there for the filming. So but uh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we have fun with it. I mean that's what it's
Speaker 1: all about we have fun and you know, we share
Speaker 1: what we do, you know, share what we can with it.
Speaker 1: You know. Again, we're not part of a big network.
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, some people joke about it's like yeah
Speaker 1: before long, even my coworkers, you know, they discovered that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would looking at some more information abo about you.
Speaker 1: I sue there's.
Speaker 6: A what do they call that, I am d D
Speaker 6: thing for you.
Speaker 1: Know, people that are involved with video filming. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: film distributed set that up for us, which was awesome,
Speaker 1: you know, but it makes us look a professional. But
Speaker 1: we're not trying to be professional. We're not trying to
Speaker 1: get famous from it. I mean, it's whatever. But so yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the main thing, the Bigfoot Explorers. And then there's
Speaker 1: a new one too, which I've only done. I only
Speaker 1: put together a couple of episodes of this other one,
Speaker 1: whereas me going solo. It's called Gone Rogue. Hopefully that
Speaker 1: will come out probably about a couple of weeks after
Speaker 1: Bigfoot Explorers becomes on the streaming network. But Gone Rogue again,
Speaker 1: it's just me by myself, gone solo, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean I've gone by I'll go up by myself and
Speaker 1: between both series.
Speaker 6: You'll see in between you'll see something eyewitness interviews with.
Speaker 1: That as well. So some of them, you know, most
Speaker 1: of them are based out of Virginias, some of them
Speaker 1: or elsewhere. I got investigations coming up where I'll be
Speaker 1: meeting filming with other people up in Pennsylvania. That's the
Speaker 1: one I got coming up in March, where I'll be
Speaker 1: camping and investigating need There's a location with one guy.
Speaker 1: He's come across some very strange footprints on you know,
Speaker 1: his footprints. I don't even know how to describe them,
Speaker 1: except I sent I sent pictures and images to King Gearhard.
Speaker 1: I forget all people. King Gearhard, he's he's researched a
Speaker 1: lot of weird cryptids. I sent them. I sent the
Speaker 1: pictures and stuff to him. Of course, he didn't want
Speaker 1: to speak on camera because he said he wanted to
Speaker 1: charge me. I said, well, what information can you get me?
Speaker 1: You know well, he said, well, after you know, after
Speaker 1: learning where I shared the information. These came out of
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania and blah blah blah. He said, well, there's been
Speaker 1: reports of where escaped alligators. I said, well, how big
Speaker 1: are the alligators? Because I mean these these three toe
Speaker 1: footprints that uh that my friend is finding up there
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Threw up the fourteen inches long. Not your
Speaker 1: average alligator is even that big. So and the funny
Speaker 1: thing is that these particular tracks that a friend of
Speaker 1: mine shared several years ago, another friend of mine in
Speaker 1: the western part of Pennsylvania has found these same tracks
Speaker 1: and he's got them. He's got pictures and casts of them.
Speaker 1: What the heck is up in Pennsylvania with these large
Speaker 1: free to tracks.
Speaker 4: I've never heard of alligators in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I understand there's animals that past, exotic
Speaker 1: animals that get you know, get loose, this and that.
Speaker 1: But a fourteen inch free to track, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you saw these tracks, I did comparison. I made
Speaker 1: a post on my ucbr uh my main Facebook group,
Speaker 1: but I put comparison alligator tracks next to his tracks.
Speaker 1: Alligator tracks have they almost like where the heel would be,
Speaker 1: looks like a sharp V.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: These these tracks that this guy's got again, they're up
Speaker 1: to fourteen inches and they have a rounded ball like
Speaker 1: a rounded heel. Okay, uh, you know, as some of
Speaker 1: the interests and take I've heard about them. Somebody said
Speaker 1: that's definitely what's the word of that crypted? Uh like reptilian.
Speaker 1: A lot of people believe that it's it could be
Speaker 1: some type of reptilion scrypted. I don't know. I never
Speaker 1: got into the retillion before, but I don't know. I
Speaker 1: want to get there. He's gonna, you know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: investigate this location, he said, because we want to camp.
Speaker 1: And he also mentioned, well, not far from here. He said,
Speaker 1: there's uh, there's a private resident that he's spoken to
Speaker 1: where they've actually heard and had some weird experiences on
Speaker 1: their property. Not just not far from where he's found
Speaker 1: these tracks. He said, I'm going to talk to them. See,
Speaker 1: we could set up camp on their property. I said, well,
Speaker 1: that would be great, you know, I would actually you know,
Speaker 1: I think that would be a good place. But so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm interested in checking it out. That's kind of coming
Speaker 1: up in March because uh, he agreed. You know, he
Speaker 1: was excited when I presented it to him, and I said,
Speaker 1: I've been up there. I've been wanting to film him
Speaker 1: and meet up with him for quite some time because
Speaker 1: he found he's back during the summertime, you know, So
Speaker 1: so I don't know, we'll see what we could find out.
Speaker 1: I want to explore the area. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a researcher, but he's I don't know how much
Speaker 1: in depth he is on research. I mean he does
Speaker 1: a lot of field videos where he shows him walking
Speaker 1: in the woods and this and that. But I'm the
Speaker 1: type of person. I feel like I'm more inclined to
Speaker 1: really look at things and you know, like find tracks.
Speaker 1: You know, we could walk from you know, you can
Speaker 1: have a group of people walk through the woods, so
Speaker 1: called big foot researchers.
Speaker 6: Not find a thing on me.
Speaker 1: I'm the type of person. Ever since I got involved
Speaker 1: with this, I'm looking for tracks, you know, I I
Speaker 1: over the years, I haven't found a series of what
Speaker 1: I believe to be big for tracks. I've had some
Speaker 1: cast you know, I haven't found them recently, but we
Speaker 1: have found things in our you know, during one of
Speaker 1: our explicit explorations, I have found things that look promising
Speaker 1: but very inconclusive. So I can't say, you know, they
Speaker 1: could be just could be delayed to a big bear
Speaker 1: as far as I know. As you know, some of
Speaker 1: the tracks in the mud and the way they are
Speaker 1: displayed again, yeah they're questionable. But you know, at the
Speaker 1: same time almost promising, but with concerning the history of
Speaker 1: the location that there's been big for sighting the Indus area. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe there's always that possibility. Like I tell people, I'm
Speaker 1: not the type of person that they yeah, that's big fort,
Speaker 1: that's big what you know, bigfoot broke that tree. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not that type of person. I'm very objective. But
Speaker 1: yet at the same time, I keep it over mind.
Speaker 4: You know, well, where can people find you at? Uh,
Speaker 4: what's your YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: And all that? Uh? Yeah, my YouTube channel is Bigfoot
Speaker 1: Zone e C B r oh of course for the
Speaker 1: abbreviation for the East Coast Big Poot Researchers the organization.
Speaker 1: So yeah, again that's big Foot Zone e C B
Speaker 1: r OH. I'm all over social media. I did have
Speaker 1: a website for the longest time. I actually decided to
Speaker 1: let that go because I'm on a type budget. I
Speaker 1: had to, you know, try of give that up before now.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm all over Facebook.
Speaker 6: I'm not hard to find.
Speaker 1: You google my name with Bigfoot or e cbr road
Speaker 1: next to it, you'll find information online about it. You know, again,
Speaker 1: if if your eyewitnessed, you know, you want to share
Speaker 1: things especially if you're in Virginia. I would love to
Speaker 1: hear from you. I mean, my email is E. C. B.
Speaker 1: R O ninety eight at gmail dot com. So I mean,
Speaker 1: feel free to reach out to me if you're in
Speaker 1: Virginia and we've had the experience, I definitely would love
Speaker 1: to hear from you. So, but yeah, I got people
Speaker 1: sharing information reports, you know, not recent reports, but I
Speaker 1: got other things going on here in Virginia again, I
Speaker 1: got Pennsylvania, West Virginia and in other surrounding stacy along
Speaker 1: the East Coast. So I'm looking forward to being up
Speaker 1: with these people and learning what I can and kind
Speaker 1: of going from there.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's made quite an adventure.
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's things here in Virginia you can't dismiss. Again,
Speaker 1: don't underestimate the East coast. And everyone hears about stories
Speaker 1: on the Pacific Northwest. Yeah, trust me, we got something
Speaker 1: going on here. They're here. I can promise you that.
Speaker 5: Well, Daniel, I've enjoyed it, man.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you coming on here and sharing some of
Speaker 4: your stories and insight. After a long time in the
Speaker 4: big foot field, and here's too many many more years
Speaker 4: to come.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I am definitely looking forward to all the research
Speaker 1: I got ahead. And you know, I and when we
Speaker 1: find things, when we learn about things, we share them. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 6: We don't keep things private and to ourselves.
Speaker 1: We like to share things. We want people to know
Speaker 1: what's out there, what we experienced when we do experience that.
Speaker 1: You know, people probably hate me for this, but unlike
Speaker 1: the b f r O, we we do put information
Speaker 1: out there. I know there's details. I know you could
Speaker 1: go to the bf O database, but you're not going
Speaker 1: to learn all the facts and details that.
Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of behind the scenes that
Speaker 6: the you know, researchers with the bfro.
Speaker 1: O will hide from the public. We're not like that.
Speaker 1: We want you to know, you know, what's out there.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: It's all part of spreading awareness.
Speaker 1: And I preach that a lot, you know. You know,
Speaker 1: even when I go to events, I speak at events,
Speaker 1: you know, I share my research and I share experiences,
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. So you know, again, it's
Speaker 1: all part of spread awareness.
Speaker 6: And I want people to know what's happening here, you know.
Speaker 1: You know again, I've had journalists that's done reports and
Speaker 1: stories and articles and they said, oh, there's no bigfoot
Speaker 1: in the in Virginia and stuff like that. I don't
Speaker 1: know whether they get their information on they're based off
Speaker 1: of the b f R everything else, you know. You know,
Speaker 1: it's disserting that people are bold enough to put this
Speaker 1: kind of information out there. What little do they know?
Speaker 1: You know, It's like they don't know how to research
Speaker 1: we do, you know, so they don't get out there.
Speaker 1: These are people that are you know, sitting behind a
Speaker 1: desk and you know, put information out there just for
Speaker 1: a few views, you know. But I guarantee you we
Speaker 1: have bigfoot out here in Virginia, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of strangest it takes place here, and the more we
Speaker 1: dig into things, the more we learn. If you want
Speaker 1: to continue to watch us and follow us, I do
Speaker 1: highly recommend watch the YouTube channel, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: but be on the lookout on streaming networks for Bigfoot Explorers,
Speaker 1: the film series and also Gone Road. We're boosts on
Speaker 1: the ground broad footage. You know, We're not involved in
Speaker 1: no major networks, so you won't see all that false
Speaker 1: entertainment out there to keep you drawn in. But what
Speaker 1: we have is the real deal. I promise you.
Speaker 4: That If you'd like to share your big foot and
Speaker 4: counter on the Bigfoot Crossroads podcast, email me at Bigfoot
Speaker 4: Crossroads at gmail dot com. Check out the website Bigfootcrossroads
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Speaker 4: everything you need all in one place, and until next time,
Speaker 4: remember there's something in the woods.