WEBVTT

1
00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I've Bill cunning in the Great America. One of the

2
00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:10.800
<v Speaker 1>great reasons that so many of the American people have

3
00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.560
<v Speaker 1>put Donald Trump in office is to stop the madness

4
00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:17.039
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to all these windmills and solar panels

5
00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:20.039
<v Speaker 1>from communist Red Shawnt, etc. And the lower the price

6
00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:23.000
<v Speaker 1>of energy. We have an energy demand which is unbelievable.

7
00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:25.160
<v Speaker 1>In fact, when you talk to the so called experts,

8
00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.559
<v Speaker 1>because of AI, every year we're going to have a

9
00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:31.079
<v Speaker 1>five to seven percent increase in the need for electricity.

10
00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:34.479
<v Speaker 1>And every year, because of cutbacks and brown outs and blackouts,

11
00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:37.920
<v Speaker 1>we have a five to seven percent decrease of energy production,

12
00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:40.079
<v Speaker 1>which is a major problem. We hope the problem has

13
00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:44.159
<v Speaker 1>been solved. But Sterling Burnett, PhD is the director of

14
00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:47.159
<v Speaker 1>the Robinson Center on Climate and Environmental Policy at the

15
00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Heartland Institute. And Sterling Burnett, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

16
00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:53.399
<v Speaker 1>And first of all, let's talk about the road that

17
00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:55.920
<v Speaker 1>was taken before we get to what's going to happen

18
00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:59.159
<v Speaker 1>in the future. Tell me the Biden energy policy and

19
00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:01.640
<v Speaker 1>how that increase costs for all of the American people,

20
00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:05.400
<v Speaker 1>gave us less electricity, fewer jobs, and in bold in China,

21
00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:08.760
<v Speaker 1>let's assume that Kamala Harris had won the road, thank god,

22
00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.599
<v Speaker 1>not taking what were what was the Biden policy on

23
00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:12.959
<v Speaker 1>energy and things of that character.

24
00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:16.959
<v Speaker 2>Well, the Biden policy was for Americans to live less,

25
00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:20.079
<v Speaker 2>to live less well, to pay more for goods and

26
00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:24.280
<v Speaker 2>services that depend on energy. Energy is the lifeblood of economy.

27
00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Everyone thinks about energy when they turn on their lives

28
00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:29.159
<v Speaker 2>till they drive their car. But energy goes into everything.

29
00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.879
<v Speaker 2>If you get food, it was grown using a lot

30
00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:34.159
<v Speaker 2>of energy, and it was transported using a lot of energy.

31
00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:38.959
<v Speaker 2>If you wear clothes, they were if they're probably you know,

32
00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.719
<v Speaker 2>any kind of unnatural fiber, non natural fiber, they were.

33
00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:48.239
<v Speaker 2>They were. They were produced using oil and gas and

34
00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:53.359
<v Speaker 2>of course shipped manufactured. Everything uses energy as an opponent.

35
00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Plastics six thousand plastics produced by all and Biden and

36
00:01:58.359 --> 00:02:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Harris did everything they could to raise the price of that.

37
00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:05.400
<v Speaker 2>And they're so called, you know, in their idiotic fight

38
00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:09.639
<v Speaker 2>against climate change and climate change America.

39
00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:13.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, every now and then it's so cold where

40
00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I live in the Midwest. I could use some global

41
00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.879
<v Speaker 1>warming right now. It'd be a good thing. I can't

42
00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:20.919
<v Speaker 1>imagine how cold it would be without global warming. But

43
00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the plan was this a I can't imagine having a policy.

44
00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Get in Get in the heads of a leftist. If

45
00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you can, doctor Burnette, you're in the head of a

46
00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:31.960
<v Speaker 1>leftist right now. You're Kamala Harris's energy provider, and you're

47
00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:33.639
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the White House now for about a week

48
00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:36.240
<v Speaker 1>and you're in charge. Are you thinking, you know what

49
00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:39.479
<v Speaker 1>we need to live less? Well, we need to pay

50
00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:43.039
<v Speaker 1>more for gasoline, oil, natural gas, we need to cut

51
00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:46.080
<v Speaker 1>off LNG exports, we need to put out of work

52
00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and those on the Keystone pipeline. Is that what a

53
00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:49.879
<v Speaker 1>leftist actually thinks.

54
00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it is what they actually think. They think

55
00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:56.199
<v Speaker 2>they think. No, it's not that we need to it's

56
00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:59.680
<v Speaker 2>that the other people need to sacrifice for the causes

57
00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:04.960
<v Speaker 2>we are important. Remember, Kamala Harris isn't suffering, Biden, isn't

58
00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:09.439
<v Speaker 2>suffering Obama. They don't suffer. They pay the higher cost,

59
00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:12.400
<v Speaker 2>but they can absorb the higher cost. They think other

60
00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:17.680
<v Speaker 2>people must sacrifice. The poor in America must sacrifice to

61
00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:21.680
<v Speaker 2>pay off corrupt politicians and developing countries to satisfy their

62
00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:24.479
<v Speaker 2>elite friends. They take their private jets and they don't

63
00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:27.759
<v Speaker 2>want us to travel at all. That's what they truly believe.

64
00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:34.080
<v Speaker 2>They many of them are what you call they're missing tropic.

65
00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:36.520
<v Speaker 2>But they think there are too many people on Earth.

66
00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.360
<v Speaker 2>They think the problem is too many people and too

67
00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:44.400
<v Speaker 2>much consumption. So people suffering, that's no problem with them.

68
00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:47.439
<v Speaker 2>They talk a good game, Oh we're for the poor,

69
00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:50.639
<v Speaker 2>we're for the workers, and then they do everything they

70
00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:53.639
<v Speaker 2>can to make it worse for the poor and the workers.

71
00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:56.560
<v Speaker 2>So you have to look at their actions, not their words,

72
00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:57.680
<v Speaker 2>to figure out what's really going on.

73
00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:01.400
<v Speaker 1>In our head. As far as the climate risks, it's

74
00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.159
<v Speaker 1>almost a biblical belief they have that the climate is

75
00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:08.120
<v Speaker 1>affected by human activity causing man made global warming resulting

76
00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.400
<v Speaker 1>in climate change. And if one would take the last

77
00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:15.680
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty years of the Industrial age, I'm

78
00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:18.439
<v Speaker 1>told that the average temperature on Earth's gone up and

79
00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe as much as two degrees fahrenheit. And that is

80
00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the judgment of those doing the measurement who wanted to

81
00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.439
<v Speaker 1>find result. If you know what I mean, how much

82
00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:29.560
<v Speaker 1>of a risk to me, Tony Bender and others is

83
00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:35.040
<v Speaker 1>man made global warming that is causing all these climate risks?

84
00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:36.199
<v Speaker 1>How much of a risk is it?

85
00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:39.680
<v Speaker 2>So ask yourself this, If you step outside today and

86
00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:41.759
<v Speaker 2>the temperature goes up two degree? Do you die?

87
00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:44.480
<v Speaker 1>No, it's a good thing.

88
00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Most people. Most people in fact, when they retire, where

89
00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:51.399
<v Speaker 2>they don't retire as much as beautiful plays. It may

90
00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:56.439
<v Speaker 2>be is Minnesota or North Dakota, they typically retire down

91
00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:00.000
<v Speaker 2>south where it's warmer. Warmer is better for human life,

92
00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Warmer is better for biological diversity. In the end, a

93
00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:08.759
<v Speaker 2>warmer world is a better world. And we're not warming

94
00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.759
<v Speaker 2>that much. CO two is plant food, So we're feeding

95
00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.680
<v Speaker 2>more people than ever before in history. We have fewer

96
00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:19.639
<v Speaker 2>deaths tied to temperatures than ever before in history. We

97
00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:23.519
<v Speaker 2>have fewer people day as a result of natural disasters

98
00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:25.959
<v Speaker 2>than ever before in history. So you have to show

99
00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.319
<v Speaker 2>me where climate change is making anything worse? And does

100
00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:33.839
<v Speaker 2>the data not the headlines, not what people the so

101
00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:38.439
<v Speaker 2>called expert say. The data does not back up the

102
00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:42.360
<v Speaker 2>claim that we face a climate crisis. And that's what

103
00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Trump recognized. That's the hoax Trump calls out when he

104
00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.120
<v Speaker 2>calls climate change a hoax.

105
00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:50.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, doctor Sterling Burnette, when I watched Jim Acosta

106
00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and CNN who kind of lost his gig. But nonetheless,

107
00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.920
<v Speaker 1>it just seems like there's more hurricanes. It just seems

108
00:05:55.959 --> 00:06:00.319
<v Speaker 1>like there's more tornadoes. It just seems like there's more wildfires, seams.

109
00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Everything's getting worse. Going to hell in a handbasket?

110
00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Is it? Is it worse? It's we're able to track

111
00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.920
<v Speaker 2>them better. Where there's a lot more reporting, you know,

112
00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:13.399
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours seven reporting used to if a tornado

113
00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:18.000
<v Speaker 2>happened in the middle of Kansas or the panhandle of

114
00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:20.879
<v Speaker 2>Texas and it didn't strike a town or a house,

115
00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:25.839
<v Speaker 2>no one knew about it. Now you have radar that

116
00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:30.279
<v Speaker 2>sees every little hurricane, that tornado that forms, regardless of

117
00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.480
<v Speaker 2>whether it ever impacts any place. You get tornado warnings.

118
00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I get tornado I live in I live in Dallas.

119
00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I've lived here most of my life. When I didn't

120
00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.040
<v Speaker 2>live here, I live in Ohio, which was also part

121
00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:44.040
<v Speaker 2>of a tornado alley. Know. I know tornadoes, very familiar

122
00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:48.720
<v Speaker 2>with tornadoes. I get tornado warnings all the time. I

123
00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:54.879
<v Speaker 2>probably have ten of a year. I haven't my town

124
00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:58.120
<v Speaker 2>the day after Christmas, about eight years ago, had tornado

125
00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:00.319
<v Speaker 2>struck about half a mile from me, That's the only

126
00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.920
<v Speaker 2>one that came anywhere close to my house. I wouldn't

127
00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.600
<v Speaker 2>even have known about them, except for the one that

128
00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.839
<v Speaker 2>was nearest me years ago, because they wouldn't have been

129
00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:10.680
<v Speaker 2>reporting on it because they didn't know it. They didn't

130
00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:14.240
<v Speaker 2>know the radar didn't track the little funnel coming down

131
00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:17.040
<v Speaker 2>right until it did some damage, until it hurts somebody,

132
00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.319
<v Speaker 2>And even then, if it was just one small farm

133
00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:21.519
<v Speaker 2>that got rocked out, you may never have known it.

134
00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:25.800
<v Speaker 2>C and N didn't exist twenty four hours day. Cable

135
00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:32.160
<v Speaker 2>news weather channels are a relatively recent invention. So it's

136
00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.399
<v Speaker 2>not that any of this stuff is getting worse because

137
00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:36.600
<v Speaker 2>the data. Once again, I would quaye go back to this,

138
00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:39.680
<v Speaker 2>because that's what science is built on. The data don't

139
00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.800
<v Speaker 2>show that these things are happening more frequently, or when

140
00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:45.240
<v Speaker 2>they do occur, that they're more palaul than they've ever

141
00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:45.720
<v Speaker 2>been before.

142
00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.439
<v Speaker 1>H So you know one of the things I saw

143
00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:52.160
<v Speaker 1>on Fox News the alarmists, Yeah, the alarmist because aren't

144
00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:54.959
<v Speaker 1>people paid to hold these opinions? In other words, much

145
00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like DEI, which is die there's an eight billion dollar

146
00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:02.879
<v Speaker 1>industry built or around DEI and the college is universities,

147
00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:05.959
<v Speaker 1>many major businesses costco for example, a lot of people

148
00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.439
<v Speaker 1>are getting paid and so when lots of people are

149
00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:10.439
<v Speaker 1>paid lots of money. Guess what there's going to be

150
00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:12.639
<v Speaker 1>man made climate change causing global warming.

151
00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Correct, Well, if it wasn't climate, if it wasn't global warming,

152
00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:20.720
<v Speaker 2>it was global cooling. Look, the environmentalists have had scare

153
00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.360
<v Speaker 2>stories going back since the turn of the twentieth century,

154
00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:29.959
<v Speaker 2>and the story is always the same. Humans. It's the

155
00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Bible story, human sin. In this case, they developed energy,

156
00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:37.600
<v Speaker 2>and you have to repent your sin. You need to

157
00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.360
<v Speaker 2>get rid of the energy. No matter what the crisis is,

158
00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:44.320
<v Speaker 2>whether it was global cooling in the seventies and the

159
00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:49.360
<v Speaker 2>next Ice Age, whether it was intocrene disruptors in the

160
00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:52.639
<v Speaker 2>early eighties that were going to make it impossible for

161
00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:57.320
<v Speaker 2>humans to have children, it was clean, it was air

162
00:08:57.399 --> 00:09:01.200
<v Speaker 2>and water in the sixties. The problem is always the same,

163
00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:04.639
<v Speaker 2>humans consuming too much. And their answer is always the same,

164
00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:08.360
<v Speaker 2>bigger and bigger government, to control your lives, to dictate

165
00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:12.360
<v Speaker 2>to you. Those things are common whatever the environmental problem is.

166
00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:16.759
<v Speaker 2>And the other thing that's always the same is academics

167
00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:19.279
<v Speaker 2>and the media raking in a lot of money on it.

168
00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:24.600
<v Speaker 2>If the environmental scares go away, funding to these academics

169
00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:30.000
<v Speaker 2>goes away as well. Their whole careers are built on disaster,

170
00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:34.720
<v Speaker 2>big business and for the media, look, it's not new.

171
00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.320
<v Speaker 2>If it bleeds, it leads. If they had to report

172
00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:41.120
<v Speaker 2>nothing bad happened today, many.

173
00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Times I talked to those in the news and saying, well,

174
00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.519
<v Speaker 1>we have to report something at six o'clock. They got

175
00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.080
<v Speaker 1>to find something that's going on. One of the best

176
00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.720
<v Speaker 1>things I saw in a congressional hearing about three months

177
00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.519
<v Speaker 1>ago was my favorite senator or Senator John Kennedy Louisiana,

178
00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:59.159
<v Speaker 1>and he is a panel of experts, what percent of

179
00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere is CO two? And these were experts supposedly

180
00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:07.080
<v Speaker 1>from academia, and they were giving numbers like one percent,

181
00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:11.919
<v Speaker 1>five percent, seventeen percent, one percent of the actual atmosphere

182
00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:13.720
<v Speaker 1>of mother Earth is CO two.

183
00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, a small fraction. CO two is probably less than

184
00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:23.039
<v Speaker 2>one percent. If you talk about the percentage of CO

185
00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:26.320
<v Speaker 2>two as the greenhouset. Remember, greenhouse gases are only a

186
00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:31.240
<v Speaker 2>small part of the atmosphere, right, And the dominant greenhouse

187
00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:34.720
<v Speaker 2>gas ninety six to ninety seven percent of the greenhouse

188
00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:38.840
<v Speaker 2>gays in the appophere is water vapor, right, correct, So

189
00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:42.039
<v Speaker 2>so CO two and methane and all those of the

190
00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:46.440
<v Speaker 2>greenhouse gass you hear about are are two to three

191
00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.879
<v Speaker 2>percent of the atmosphere. Are two to three percent of

192
00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:51.279
<v Speaker 2>the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, which is a small

193
00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:53.240
<v Speaker 2>fraction of all the gases in the appal Well.

194
00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Senator Kennedy had a government expert that admitted that the

195
00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:02.200
<v Speaker 1>percentage of CO two in the appmisphere is somewhere between

196
00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:07.360
<v Speaker 1>point zero three and point zero four. For those who

197
00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.639
<v Speaker 1>may not have a math background, that is well less

198
00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.960
<v Speaker 1>than one tenth of one percent. So if you take

199
00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:16.279
<v Speaker 1>an inch divided by ten, then go down to point

200
00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.759
<v Speaker 1>oh three of that. That's the percentage of CO two

201
00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.399
<v Speaker 1>in the atmosphere, which is part of methane, which is

202
00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:25.600
<v Speaker 1>a good thing, and it is not a significant part.

203
00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:29.759
<v Speaker 1>In fact, Mother Earth itself will regulate by itself methane

204
00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:31.799
<v Speaker 1>and CO two in the atmosphere by what it does.

205
00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:32.879
<v Speaker 2>And one might.

206
00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Add doctor Sterling Burnett I read in a scientific journal

207
00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:42.120
<v Speaker 1>that the wildfires in California have now put more CO

208
00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:45.440
<v Speaker 1>two in particulate matter in the atmosphere that's been so

209
00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:49.200
<v Speaker 1>called saved by California in the past twenty eight years.

210
00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:52.240
<v Speaker 1>So you have one wildfire and all of a sudden,

211
00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.440
<v Speaker 1>all the priuses that are driven don't matter anymore anyway,

212
00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:59.120
<v Speaker 1>because Mother Earth regulates, you know what I'm saying.

213
00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now, you know, And these as bad as terrible

214
00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:06.679
<v Speaker 2>as they are because where they're located, you know, right

215
00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:10.240
<v Speaker 2>in the populated Los Angeles area. These are small wildfires

216
00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:11.960
<v Speaker 2>compared to some of the wildfires that have happened in

217
00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:16.039
<v Speaker 2>California in recent years. You know, these are twenty forty

218
00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:19.639
<v Speaker 2>seven thousand acres, but they've had you know, millions of

219
00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:23.120
<v Speaker 2>acres burning in the last few years at wildfires have

220
00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:26.679
<v Speaker 2>put out more. All the sacrifices, all the sacrifices, the

221
00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:32.799
<v Speaker 2>lack of energy, the jobs lost, the people moving out

222
00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:35.279
<v Speaker 2>of the state because it's losing population largely do the

223
00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:38.960
<v Speaker 2>high energy cost, high housing costs, all the regulations. None

224
00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.759
<v Speaker 2>of that has done anything to prevent any climate change

225
00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:48.000
<v Speaker 2>at all, and it won't America. America picked to borrow

226
00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:50.080
<v Speaker 2>the President Trump and go tomar And if there were

227
00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.559
<v Speaker 2>a light switch, turn off all the energy in the US,

228
00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:55.600
<v Speaker 2>and emissions would continue to climb. And it's not a

229
00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:59.159
<v Speaker 2>bad thing. You know what, During the last ice age,

230
00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:01.480
<v Speaker 2>we dip down to one hundred and eighty parts per

231
00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:08.360
<v Speaker 2>million of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Plants stop photosynthesis.

232
00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:12.200
<v Speaker 2>They die at one hundred and fifty parts the atmosphere.

233
00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:15.279
<v Speaker 2>So we were in danger of all life on Earth.

234
00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.559
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't due to global warming. It was due

235
00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:21.000
<v Speaker 2>to global cooling and too little CO two. At CO

236
00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.080
<v Speaker 2>two not come back after the ice age to two

237
00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:26.000
<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty parts per million, we'd be in bad shape, right,

238
00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:29.000
<v Speaker 2>And most of the plants on most of the life

239
00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:31.279
<v Speaker 2>on Earth, most of the plants on Earth, evolved at

240
00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.919
<v Speaker 2>a time when CO two was much higher in the

241
00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:36.759
<v Speaker 2>atmosphere than it is now. Four hundred and twenty parts

242
00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:39.559
<v Speaker 2>per million is not a danger to anyone all of us.

243
00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, all of us are against pollutants. I'm against pollution,

244
00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.480
<v Speaker 1>but I'm in favor of economic development. Lastly, the left's

245
00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:49.960
<v Speaker 1>going crazy because of the Paris climbing of cords, which

246
00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:54.039
<v Speaker 1>is ending Chinese controlled renewable energy. Explain how the Chinese

247
00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:55.320
<v Speaker 1>are making money out of this deal.

248
00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, the Chinese weren't bound by anything. They didn't have

249
00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:01.480
<v Speaker 2>to cut their emission under the Pair's Climate Court. They

250
00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:03.840
<v Speaker 2>said that at some point in the future they expect

251
00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:06.320
<v Speaker 2>they will peak commissions. But if they peak a double

252
00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:08.799
<v Speaker 2>where they are now, and they're already more than double

253
00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:11.919
<v Speaker 2>what the US puts out, more than what the entire

254
00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:17.320
<v Speaker 2>developed world puts out. Then it wouldn't matter even if

255
00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.120
<v Speaker 2>you believe CO two was causing climate change, because they

256
00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.120
<v Speaker 2>would swamp anything, any sacrifices we make. So they were

257
00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:27.360
<v Speaker 2>going on their merry way putting out CO two, and

258
00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:30.360
<v Speaker 2>then they were selling us green technology, so called so

259
00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:35.960
<v Speaker 2>called green technologies, and our energy systems were becoming dependent

260
00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:41.720
<v Speaker 2>upon Chinese technology, Chinese critical minerals, and you know to

261
00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:44.799
<v Speaker 2>the extent that those are built in the Chips. Let's

262
00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:47.200
<v Speaker 2>say that Chinese didn't like us all of a sudden

263
00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:49.879
<v Speaker 2>and war broke out, they might be able to turn

264
00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:54.039
<v Speaker 2>off our technologies and minerals. It was crazy. It is

265
00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:58.440
<v Speaker 2>crazy to make your electrical grid and your transportation system

266
00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:05.320
<v Speaker 2>dependent on min rules technologies that come from a country

267
00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:08.360
<v Speaker 2>that is not your ally but is your enemy. No.

268
00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:12.600
<v Speaker 1>In fact, getting out of the Paris climate, that's that's

269
00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:14.960
<v Speaker 1>what they did. And thank god Trump did that, because

270
00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:17.720
<v Speaker 1>without that, we'd have more of these battery plants built

271
00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:20.559
<v Speaker 1>by the communists, red Chinese in Mexico to sell us

272
00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:23.840
<v Speaker 1>cheap evs that were mandated. I can only imagine if

273
00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.360
<v Speaker 1>we'd gone through four years of Joe Biden, then eight

274
00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:29.320
<v Speaker 1>years of Kamala Harris, then four years of Governor Tim

275
00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Watz as the vice president to be reelected. We're done,

276
00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:34.639
<v Speaker 1>it's over. We're going to turn over our economy to

277
00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:37.159
<v Speaker 1>the Red Chinese. It was a great thing. Once again,

278
00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Sterling Burnett, you're the climate environmental policy at the

279
00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:44.519
<v Speaker 1>Heartland Institute. And how many times is CBS, NBC, ABC

280
00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:47.639
<v Speaker 1>or PBS or The New York Times put your thoughts

281
00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:50.159
<v Speaker 1>of the Heartland Institute's thoughts in their stories? Does that

282
00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:50.720
<v Speaker 1>ever happen?

283
00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Very very rarely, because they decided about a decade ago

284
00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:58.440
<v Speaker 2>that there was no debate and they were going to

285
00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:00.759
<v Speaker 2>they were no longer going to cover this ing voices

286
00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.559
<v Speaker 2>on climate matters. So I won't say it never happens,

287
00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:06.720
<v Speaker 2>but when it does, it's never complementary.

288
00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Something's wrong with you. You're not thinking right. We went

289
00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:10.799
<v Speaker 1>to Chinese.

290
00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Do what they do is they try and compare us

291
00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:16.919
<v Speaker 2>the Holocaust deniers they cause climate deniers. They say we're

292
00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:22.320
<v Speaker 2>holding up progress on climate change. No, we're defending American

293
00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:24.759
<v Speaker 2>prosperity and American's freedom to choose.

294
00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, until Starship Enterprise shows up with the lithium crystals,

295
00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:31.720
<v Speaker 1>we're going to have to rely upon coal and natural

296
00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:34.320
<v Speaker 1>gas and oil for a long time, hundreds of years,

297
00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:36.639
<v Speaker 1>and we have the supply. And don't believe what the

298
00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:38.519
<v Speaker 1>mainstream media tells you, because a lot of it is

299
00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of lies. And you just laid it out.

300
00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:44.159
<v Speaker 1>And once again, doctor Sterling Burnett, PhD, the Heartland Institute,

301
00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:46.320
<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And

302
00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:48.639
<v Speaker 1>doctor Burnett, you're a great American. Thank you very much.

303
00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me, sir, have a good day, and God.

304
00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.919
<v Speaker 1>Bless God, bless America. Let's continue with more of the truth.

305
00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Will set us off free? Bill Cunningham on seven hundred

306
00:16:58.960 --> 00:16:59.720
<v Speaker 1>WLW