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Speaker 2: there is any silver lining as you get set for
Speaker 2: the Boston College matchup on Friday, is that you potentially
Speaker 2: only have to sit on that loss for for six days,
Speaker 2: meaning the loss to Miami, because you've got a quick turnaround.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are coaches, maybe even players who don't
Speaker 2: like the idea of that quick turnaround, not as much
Speaker 2: time to rest. But from a fan, standpoint. You know,
Speaker 2: I like the Friday night games for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 2: One it gives me a Saturday to you know, to
Speaker 2: to not have to you know, not have to work,
Speaker 2: although it doesn't you know, really feel like work. But
Speaker 2: you know, Friday nights are are fun for me, you know,
Speaker 2: makes it a little easier. And for what it's worth,
Speaker 2: you do have an opportunity if you play well, to
Speaker 2: probably reach some more people. You know, you're not you know,
Speaker 2: not many. I mean, I'm sure for the most part
Speaker 2: those who love college football really think of Saturday as
Speaker 2: the day, which I'm the same way. But on Friday,
Speaker 2: you've got, you know, a standalone opportunity. There's not many
Speaker 2: games that are going to be played at the same time,
Speaker 2: so you know, maybe it is a chance for.
Speaker 3: Louisville to get right, get rid of that bad taste out.
Speaker 2: Of their mouth from that Miami loss, and hopefully bounce back.
Speaker 2: And there's not as I said before we ended the
Speaker 2: three o'clock hour, there's really not a whole lot to
Speaker 2: gain by winning, other than, of course, you know, getting
Speaker 2: another acc win and avoiding a second straight loss. But
Speaker 2: as far as what's to lose, I mean, you'd no
Speaker 2: longer be able to say that every team that has
Speaker 2: beaten you at this point is clearly a good team,
Speaker 2: And I don't really like saying that. I mean, it's true,
Speaker 2: I think every team that has beat Louisville so far
Speaker 2: is at least a good team. Maybe Miami's a really
Speaker 2: really good team. But as I've made clear throughout the
Speaker 2: last I don't know a month or so ever since they
Speaker 2: lost a Notre Dame. Losing, I mean, that result itself
Speaker 2: is always a super negative thing. There's no good qualit
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no good that comes with a loss.
Speaker 2: You can maybe find, you know, a loss that isn't
Speaker 2: as bad as another one, but like losing is always
Speaker 2: the result you want to avoid. But man, I found
Speaker 2: it to be so frustrating knowing that Louisville has lost
Speaker 2: games to teams and they didn't even really play that well,
Speaker 2: and yet if they just tightened some things up a
Speaker 2: little bit here and there, then they they might have
Speaker 2: been able to win. And it's all would it, could have,
Speaker 2: should have, But because you know, at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, it's, you know, still a loss. So again,
Speaker 2: Boston College on Friday night, seven thirties when it's gonna
Speaker 2: kick off, which means our pregame show is going to
Speaker 2: start at six thirty The Louisville Football Pregame Show present
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Speaker 2: so looking forward to that on Friday afternoon. And as
Speaker 2: we get you set for for a Friday night kickoff,
Speaker 2: all right, let's go to the phone line. Five X
Speaker 2: two five seven one seventy nine hundred is the number
Speaker 2: if you guys would like to uh to give us.
Speaker 3: A call and we will welcome in. Robert. Robert Youreon
Speaker 3: sports Stock seven ninety.
Speaker 4: What's up, Good morning, Good afternoon.
Speaker 5: I hadn't called them all, Nick. I don't think I've
Speaker 5: talked to.
Speaker 4: You since they hired to coach first about him, and
Speaker 4: I wasn't to be on him because I like me,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking we're top by program, which you have at least,
Speaker 4: uh top tier.
Speaker 5: Cod anyhow, so far, so good, Uh, I predict hell
Speaker 5: when twice the games that Kenny Wan played, you know,
Speaker 5: one in two years. But uh, just like I said,
Speaker 5: those football all man, those games getting beat like that
Speaker 5: been horrible. I mean, like, and I've been listening to
Speaker 5: your postgame. I was listening to the other day and uh,
Speaker 5: it's just.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's just frustration.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 5: It is because you know, we're not bad. We're not
Speaker 5: a bad team. And I don't think the coaching, well
Speaker 5: not all the coaching, but the deep into backs. You know,
Speaker 5: we've always been. Now no one's deep into Dick in
Speaker 5: terms of them at Minifield and all these guys that
Speaker 5: played in the NFL. But see last year I thought
Speaker 5: we had decent defense back the years before that they
Speaker 5: stump and this year it's just they can't cover anybody.
Speaker 7: They can't tackle arm tackle.
Speaker 2: It's been a big I mean, that was embarrassing for
Speaker 2: those guys on Saturday. I know they're better than that,
Speaker 2: but man, that's a tough It was a national televised
Speaker 2: game and some of those guys just got trucked.
Speaker 5: Well or I and they probably hadn't getten frustrated because
Speaker 5: they did a great man. I couldn't ask for better,
Speaker 5: I don't think. I mean they keep containment. I mean
Speaker 5: they you know, they do what they're supposed to do
Speaker 5: and people in the back end of it.
Speaker 4: And then that was a great.
Speaker 5: Call that they made on that the turn for fumble
Speaker 5: to return that uh that didn't beat us. But one
Speaker 5: more thing, real quick, Lamar, I love Lamar. Couldn't ask
Speaker 5: for a greater representative for the world him. You'll never
Speaker 5: win anything low. She just he and I think mostly
Speaker 5: he makes mistakes out of trying too hard as effort,
Speaker 5: you get him a close game or.
Speaker 4: He will hell drop the ball on man.
Speaker 5: Literally and figuratively. But he's doing.
Speaker 4: Great and I'm for him and I hope he munch
Speaker 4: another MBT.
Speaker 3: Thank you for the call, Robert.
Speaker 2: I'll start with the the football comments when it comes
Speaker 2: to this team, and you know, I I guess it
Speaker 2: would be worse if I said here and said, you know,
Speaker 2: this team, this team's really bad, like they're not like
Speaker 2: we got sold something that is just nowhere near legit.
Speaker 2: But I don't think that's the case. And that's why
Speaker 2: that's why the best, you know, the best way to
Speaker 2: describe I think how a lot of fans myself included
Speaker 2: her feeling is that it's just frustrating. I mean, it
Speaker 2: would be worse if we stunk and you felt like
Speaker 2: they were potentially gonna, you know, have a losing record
Speaker 2: or something like that. And I guess that's still like it,
Speaker 2: you know, technically possible. I doubt that that happens, but
Speaker 2: it's just frustrating because you should be better than you are,
Speaker 2: and I can't really pinpoint one specific thing that is.
Speaker 2: You know, clearly the defense has not been as good
Speaker 2: as we thought it would be, and the criticism for
Speaker 2: them is fair. Right when you or forty five points
Speaker 2: and put up you know, nearly five hundred yards or
Speaker 2: whatever it was against Miami, that should be enough. But
Speaker 2: the defense also has made some timely plays. There's been
Speaker 2: games where they got off to poor starts or they
Speaker 2: had you know, a couple of bone headed plays, but
Speaker 2: then they settled in. Like, if you look at the numbers,
Speaker 2: the defense isn't that bad. And in fact, if you
Speaker 2: go back and look at the numbers compared to last year,
Speaker 2: as far as you know, the amount of rushing yards
Speaker 2: you're giving up, the amount of passing yards you're giving up.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have it in front of me,
Speaker 2: but it's really not that far off. Meaning it's not
Speaker 2: like you're you're not exactly the same, but it's not
Speaker 2: as far off as you might expect given the fact
Speaker 2: that you know you're seeing these teams. You know, I mean,
Speaker 2: clearly you're giving up more points than you typically did
Speaker 2: last year. But I don't know, it's just they should
Speaker 2: have they should not have those three losses they do,
Speaker 2: and you know, at the end of the day, you're
Speaker 2: you're evaluated by doing what winning or losing. So maybe
Speaker 2: I just wish I had a better explanation as to
Speaker 2: why they've lost these games. And the one that I've
Speaker 2: come up with that isn't a good thing, but it's
Speaker 2: I think it's valid. They've made a lot of crucial
Speaker 2: mistakes in games that yes, we know are avoidable, it happens,
Speaker 2: but their mistakes seem to come at really, really, really
Speaker 2: bad times. And even when they do that, though, they
Speaker 2: find themselves late with a chance to potentially tie it
Speaker 2: up towards the end of the game, or maybe they've
Speaker 2: got the ball with a chance to take the lead
Speaker 2: because it's tied or something like that. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think those scenarios have all presented themselves in these losses.
Speaker 2: So they've overcome some big mistakes to again give themselves
Speaker 2: a chance to win, but they come up short. And
Speaker 2: you got to think, if you avoid you know, twenty
Speaker 2: five percent of the crucial mistakes that you've made, one
Speaker 2: that doesn't make you perfect. You still are a team
Speaker 2: that has flaws, but you might have been able to
Speaker 2: like that might have been enough to where you could
Speaker 2: make those mistakes and still be to win. I think
Speaker 2: now you're making you know, especially against SMU and against
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, against Miami, you just lost to a team
Speaker 2: that's really good. And I think most would say, hey,
Speaker 2: against this Miami team with cam Ward who you know,
Speaker 2: good luck anybody to anybody who wants to get in
Speaker 2: a shootout with with with Miami. But like I think,
Speaker 2: if you, I mean, I guess you could say this
Speaker 2: about any opponent, like having a scenario like they did
Speaker 2: against Miami on Saturday, where on the kickoff return you
Speaker 2: end up getting a penalty that moves you to what
Speaker 2: your three four yard line, whatever it was, and then
Speaker 2: the first play you fumble it in the end zone,
Speaker 2: they scoop it and score. I mean, that's not ideal
Speaker 2: no matter who you're playing, but especially when you're playing
Speaker 2: a good team like Miami, you don't want to give
Speaker 2: them seven in a situation like that. And that was
Speaker 2: really the one crucial like, just man, what do you do?
Speaker 2: And you can't do that. That's the only time I
Speaker 2: feel like that happened of a than you know, whenever
Speaker 2: they would take a play that might have you know,
Speaker 2: needed only be for a few yards that they ended
Speaker 2: up getting twelve or thirteen, you know, one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty five yards on the ground for Miami after contact
Speaker 2: is embarrassing. But again, as far as just the one real,
Speaker 2: big crucial mistake that can flip the momentum in a
Speaker 2: major way, it was that penalty on special teams and
Speaker 2: then the fumble that gave them the touchdown. So you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you did get better and you instead of making
Speaker 2: three of those kind of mistakes, you made just one
Speaker 2: of them. But you just can't do it against a
Speaker 2: team like Miami and still feel like you're going to
Speaker 2: have a great shot at winning. And that's why I
Speaker 2: guess the culmination of it was just such a frustrating
Speaker 2: thing for me, is because you could have lost in
Speaker 2: Miami the same exact way that you did, and it
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been such a punch to the gut if
Speaker 2: you already hadn't lost two games that, you know, I
Speaker 2: feel like we're avoidable. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: you win or you lose, and there's certainly a lot
Speaker 2: in between there that that you can take. And you know,
Speaker 2: context always matters. But you've played three good teams and
Speaker 2: you've lost all three of them, and that's that's not
Speaker 2: what fans were expecting this year. And you still have
Speaker 2: a chance to play, you know, one, maybe two good
Speaker 2: teams the rest of the way, and here's the hoping
Speaker 2: that they can, you know, finish strong. All right, Let's
Speaker 2: see here five O two six five three zero seven
Speaker 2: ninety is the LLN N Federal Credit Union text line
Speaker 2: two of you have sent this in today. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you're trying to just get me to say
Speaker 2: something that that maybe I'm not supposed to say on
Speaker 2: the radio. But apparently there's a running back who plays
Speaker 2: for Boston College and his name is uh Turbo Richard.
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with Turbo Richard?
Speaker 8: Gone?
Speaker 3: But I love the name.
Speaker 2: Turbo Richard's a freshman running back for Boston College. He's
Speaker 2: got two hitter and seventy one yards on the season,
Speaker 2: And I mean, Turbo Dick. Is that what you guys
Speaker 2: are trying to be funny about, because obviously Richard is
Speaker 2: you know, people people you know, people use the word
Speaker 2: use the name Dick instead of Richard, Like that is
Speaker 2: a hell of a name, Turbo Dick. I mean that
Speaker 2: that is his real name, by the way, Yeah, Turbo
Speaker 2: Richard is his real name, not to Dick. But like,
Speaker 2: obviously Dick can be used in place of Richard, and
Speaker 2: it often is like I don't know many Richards that
Speaker 2: go by dick, but there are many of them, meaning
Speaker 2: I don't know any personally clearly, there's all kinds of them.
Speaker 2: And sometimes, like you know, I feel like since maybe
Speaker 2: I don't know, like the fifties or something, maybe even
Speaker 2: before the fifties, it was a known thing that if
Speaker 2: your name is Richard, you might go by Dick. And
Speaker 2: some people chose to name their kids Richard, and they
Speaker 2: just set him up to be made fun of the
Speaker 2: rest of their life, because if you name your kid Richard,
Speaker 2: you have to consider what your your last name is like.
Speaker 2: And the one that always stands out to me is
Speaker 2: there's a there's a guy who uh who. He might
Speaker 2: still be an assistant coach for the Clemson basketball program,
Speaker 2: but his name is his name.
Speaker 3: Is Richard Bender, Dick Bender.
Speaker 2: Like that's a hell of a name, like his his
Speaker 2: parents like have to have known that, like he was
Speaker 2: gonna be Dick Bender, and like, if your name's Dick Bender,
Speaker 2: you probably hurt you probably, you know, probably get a
Speaker 2: lot of looks when you tell people your name.
Speaker 6: There's also a race car driver called Dick Trickle.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's another one, Like if his name is
Speaker 2: Richard Trickle, Like his parents should have been aware that.
Speaker 2: Like now, maybe if it's you're one of like eight,
Speaker 2: like you're one in eight of the same name from
Speaker 2: your family, like you are, John. I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's eight, but I know there's at least three of you. Three, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's three, So like maybe it's just inevitable. Maybe it
Speaker 2: started with you know, Richard something, and eventually it became
Speaker 2: like you know, I don't know when it was implemented
Speaker 2: that people who are named Richard go by Dick. But
Speaker 2: you know there's many names that I questioned the parents
Speaker 2: for set, for setting their kids up to be, you know,
Speaker 2: made fun of for their name. So yes, thank you
Speaker 2: all on the text line for letting me know that
Speaker 2: there's a Turbo Dick on the Boston College roster and
Speaker 2: we got to be prepared for him. I mean, with
Speaker 2: the way Miami was able to carry or just run
Speaker 2: over Louisville's defenders at times, you got to think Turbo
Speaker 2: Dick's gonna be coming ready to play on Friday Night defense.
Speaker 6: Better have plan b ready.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at that. Look at that.
Speaker 2: Now we're getting real immature here, which is which is
Speaker 2: really our safe space. Let's go to the phone lines.
Speaker 2: Whoever's up next, good luck following that looks like it's Cody. Cody,
Speaker 2: you're joining us here on Sports Talk seven ninety Welcome
Speaker 2: into our immature radio show.
Speaker 8: Here's that's my type of show, buddy, No reason to
Speaker 8: act like an adult exactly, So I got into radio
Speaker 8: absolutely never. Nick. Let me ask you a question here, buddy.
Speaker 8: If I set the over under at one and a
Speaker 8: half games, that louis will win for the rest of
Speaker 8: the season if you were, if you're not strictly not
Speaker 8: as a fan, what would you take there? I think, honestly,
Speaker 8: I might lean the under myself because I think they're
Speaker 8: gonna lose. Honestly, I think they're gonna lose to Boston
Speaker 8: College and after that the only game that they I mean,
Speaker 8: you never know what's how this team can play, but
Speaker 8: the only game they should win is Stanford. I still
Speaker 8: remember when they played Boston College and AJ Dillon ran
Speaker 8: for about four hundred and thirteen miles against the defense,
Speaker 8: and louis will struggle so bad with a running quarterback.
Speaker 8: I think Cassanos will have his way. But let me
Speaker 8: ask let me ask you that, Nick one and a
Speaker 8: half the rest of the year, do you take the
Speaker 8: over or the under? Love the show, Thank.
Speaker 2: You appreciate it, Cody, I would take the over just
Speaker 2: because I I I mean, I still think Louisville has
Speaker 2: a pretty good team, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: Boston College is right now coming off of two straight losses.
Speaker 2: They lost to they lost to Virginia and they also
Speaker 2: got smacked by by Virginia Tech, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech seems to be playing some pretty good football
Speaker 2: right now. But I mean, I think that's one I know,
Speaker 2: and you're right, Costallanos is a guy who gave him
Speaker 2: trouble last year despite Louisville playing maybe their best game
Speaker 2: of the season against Boston College and Bill O'Brien is
Speaker 2: is an upgrade for them when it comes to to
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Head coach.
Speaker 2: So look, they could lose to anybody on the schedule.
Speaker 2: So like, I'm not telling you that it's crazy to
Speaker 2: think that they would in fact be under the line
Speaker 2: you just laid out there of one and a half
Speaker 2: the rest of the way. But I still think objectively, Again,
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to look at it as somebody who is,
Speaker 2: you know, a Louisville fan. I mean I am, but
Speaker 2: I think objectively the rest of the way. I mean,
Speaker 2: even though they have these losses to I mean, they
Speaker 2: got they've they've only mean they were one game about
Speaker 2: five hundred or four and three. So at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, you are who you are. But I
Speaker 2: feel like especially Boston College Stanford, and we'll see what
Speaker 2: Pitt's like, although Pitt did beat you last year. So
Speaker 2: I mean I think I think you're you're you're you're
Speaker 2: getting to six and six, most likely because you'll beat
Speaker 2: in my opinion, again, they could lose to anybody, but
Speaker 2: I think they'll beat Boston College. And I still feel
Speaker 2: like they're they're even though they're on the road. They
Speaker 2: should beat Stanford. So I would take the over, and
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm you know, doing it from a
Speaker 2: Homer Homer perspective, because again, to be fair, Louisville has
Speaker 2: lost three games by a touchdown each two teams that
Speaker 2: are good. Now, again, if you lose to a bunch
Speaker 2: of good teams and you only beat bad teams, that
Speaker 2: leaves you not really knowing where you are. Right by definition,
Speaker 2: you didn't beat anybody good, but you avoided a loss
Speaker 2: to a team that you know is undoubtedly a bad team.
Speaker 3: So that may be where we are.
Speaker 2: Like if they go six and six here and they
Speaker 2: lose to Clemson and they lose to Kentucky, although right
Speaker 2: now I mean Kentucky, I mean I still think they
Speaker 2: present a potential matchup problem for Louisville as far as
Speaker 2: how big they are upfront, how physical they are, and
Speaker 2: that's proven to be an issue for Louisville. And you
Speaker 2: know for many years now, you know, I still don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe that would be the one where you
Speaker 2: feel like you lost to a bad team, because right now,
Speaker 2: Kentucky they do have that one win against Ole Miss
Speaker 2: and that counts, but they also have, you know, a
Speaker 2: bad loss to Florida where they got beat by four touchdowns.
Speaker 2: They lost to Vandy, who you know, I guess technically
Speaker 2: that's that's not the same type.
Speaker 3: Of life that it usually is. But still it's.
Speaker 2: At home and it's to Vandy, and then they got
Speaker 2: killed by South Carolina. So to answer your question, I
Speaker 2: would take the over, but I'm also well aware that
Speaker 2: Louisville could lose to anybody left on the schedule if
Speaker 2: they don't come ready to play, and losing Jamari Johnson
Speaker 2: certainly hurts. And as soon as I started trying to
Speaker 2: answer Cody's question, somebody on the text line mentioned Brahm's
Speaker 2: common about injuries. Yesterday we didn't talk about that, and
Speaker 2: I don't know if that is because somebody is injured
Speaker 2: that we don't know about, or if he's just referring
Speaker 2: to guys that have been sidelined a little bit. So
Speaker 2: he mentioned there'll be more guys out than just Jamari Johnson,
Speaker 2: who by the way, is out for the rest of
Speaker 2: the season after that injury he suffered against Miami. But
Speaker 2: I don't have any and again, we're not going to
Speaker 2: find out. We'll know probably Friday afternoon or maybe Friday
Speaker 2: when this thing kicks off. They're gonna keep injuries, you know,
Speaker 2: as secretive as possible. So when he said, because that was,
Speaker 2: you know, towards the end of his press yesterday, he
Speaker 2: was asked, I believe by Rick Bozic, who you know,
Speaker 2: do you expect anybody else to be out? And he
Speaker 2: just said, yeah, I mean, we'll we'll you know, you
Speaker 2: you'd have to ask me names specifically, but yeah, we'll
Speaker 2: have guys out, and I don't think they asked any
Speaker 2: names specifically. So, yeah, you're banged up, I mean, but
Speaker 2: so is everybody. I would imagine just about every team
Speaker 2: in college football right now is dealing with some kind
Speaker 2: of an injury to somebody that they wish that they had.
Speaker 2: So I just hate being in this position where, again,
Speaker 2: you don't have a whole lot to gain here with
Speaker 2: a win, but a loss I think would be I mean,
Speaker 2: and I know it sounds so lame to say, well,
Speaker 2: at this point, at least the teams that have beat
Speaker 2: you are you know, ranked teams, which is true, Like
Speaker 2: it's not as if you lost to a team where
Speaker 2: you're just flat out embarrassed that they beat you. But
Speaker 2: Boston College, I think would be a team where okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to look at every game left on the
Speaker 2: schedule as as a as a game that you know, heck,
Speaker 2: if you lose to Boston College, maybe we look at
Speaker 2: the rest of the schedule and say you'd be lucky
Speaker 2: to win any of them. I mean that that sounds
Speaker 2: a little dramatic, but you know, let's be real, Boston
Speaker 2: College is not a good team, and the rest of
Speaker 2: the way you play Clemson and Pittsburgh, who are both ranked.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's on defeated Stanford's not any good. But you know
Speaker 2: how good would Louisill be if they lose to Boston
Speaker 2: College and they're coming off of that and I guess
Speaker 2: potential loss to Clemson at their place. All right, quick break,
Speaker 2: We'll go back on the other side and get to
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls. If you're on hold, stick
Speaker 2: with us. We'll get to you here when we return.
Speaker 2: It's Coffee and Company fuel by Thornton's right here on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety. So a couple of people have,
Speaker 2: I guess, called me out for not responding to one
Speaker 2: of our first callers there in the four o'clock hour
Speaker 2: about what he said about Lamar Jackson, and I did
Speaker 2: just go to another call and not get to that
Speaker 2: part of his comment or question.
Speaker 3: I think it was more of a comment.
Speaker 2: And look, I mean, I don't agree that Lamar has
Speaker 2: proven to be somebody that will always not get it
Speaker 2: done in a big game, in a big moment, but
Speaker 2: like I also understand why some people view it that way.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't and I will stand corrected if
Speaker 2: I'm wrong here. But when they played last year against
Speaker 2: the Chiefs in the postseason, I don't think Lamar had
Speaker 2: maybe his best game. But I don't really feel like
Speaker 2: that being a game where you you know, like there, like,
Speaker 2: I don't think there was evidence there that supports well,
Speaker 2: that's just it. He'll put up big numbers and win MVPs,
Speaker 2: but he's not built to win in the postseason. The
Speaker 2: Ravens just decided they want to do a band the
Speaker 2: running game in that matchup, and I don't know why
Speaker 2: they did it. So look, it's not a playoff game,
Speaker 2: but it was prime time last night. They were down
Speaker 2: what ten to nothing to start that game, and they
Speaker 2: clawed back and really took over and dominated. So look,
Speaker 2: Lamar can stop playing football right now, and anybody claiming
Speaker 2: he wasn't a really good quarterback. That really changed. I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe not change the game, but obviously like he's different
Speaker 2: man and he's super successful. But guys who win MVPs,
Speaker 2: you know, after that, people are going to start saying, Okay,
Speaker 2: well where's the Super Bowl ring?
Speaker 3: And he may never get it. I don't know, but.
Speaker 2: I guess this was an exercise for me to remind myself,
Speaker 2: like there will be people that will always icknowledge the
Speaker 2: lack of a ring before acknowledging like everything else he's done,
Speaker 2: that's great, and that's just that's because he has hit
Speaker 2: a level of professional athlete star that expectations are always
Speaker 2: going to be super super.
Speaker 3: High because he's that, He's that special.
Speaker 2: So look, but right now, with the NFL looking the
Speaker 2: way it looks and the Raven's playing the way they're playing,
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it changes in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Maybe they hit up, maybe they hit some tough times.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but they're playing really really good right now,
Speaker 2: and Derek Henry just makes them different.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're going to be a really really
Speaker 2: tough team to beat if they keep playing the way
Speaker 2: they're playing right now. I don't care if it's Kansas City,
Speaker 2: if it's whoever. I mean, they're they're really really clicking
Speaker 2: on all cylinders right now. All right, Five O two
Speaker 2: five seven seventy nine hundred is the number. If you
Speaker 2: want to jump in and give us a call. Let's
Speaker 2: go back to the phone lines and welcome in, Matt, Matt,
Speaker 2: what's happening?
Speaker 7: Hey, listen, I want to let you know I don't
Speaker 7: call often, very rarely at all, but I am listening
Speaker 7: to you, and I do enjoy you.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that, yep.
Speaker 7: But anyway, you know, the older I get, I mean,
Speaker 7: it used to bother me a lot of these losses,
Speaker 7: you know, when I was young, like you, I would
Speaker 7: get upset to and just you know, wonder why why why?
Speaker 7: But then again, you know it's like, Okay, Like I said,
Speaker 7: the older I get, it's always going to be the
Speaker 7: top ten guys that are always going to be there.
Speaker 7: It's always the big boys that are always going to
Speaker 7: be the winners. And you know, we we only lost
Speaker 7: three games this year and they're pretty good teams. Sure,
Speaker 7: we lost Notre Dame by one point. I guess it
Speaker 7: was and SMU, who's only was beaten by b YU
Speaker 7: If I'm correct.
Speaker 3: I think yep, that's right.
Speaker 7: Why Yeah, and then you got Miami, who's you know,
Speaker 7: nobody's beat them, and we came really close. And you know,
Speaker 7: like you said, the defense is not what we had
Speaker 7: hoped it would be. If it was, we'd be sitting
Speaker 7: at seven. And oh, I really believe that because I
Speaker 7: think the offense is really capable. Quarterback is great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's pretty special.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think he is too. So I
Speaker 7: don't know. I mean, I know it's it's it's being negative.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of people being negative right now, But
Speaker 7: you know, I don't. I don't know. I think this
Speaker 7: is a pretty good team. Myself, I do.
Speaker 2: Too, And that's I guess that's what makes it frustrating
Speaker 2: is that you're not losing to teams where you feel like, man,
Speaker 2: how the heck did that happen? You're losing the teams that,
Speaker 2: by by this point, everybody's played more than half their schedule,
Speaker 2: and everybody that you've lost to those three teams, I
Speaker 2: think everybody would claim they're pretty good. Some would say
Speaker 2: they would be Miami might be really really good.
Speaker 7: So but you know what, I tell you the truth, though,
Speaker 7: I think you might agree with me. When if Miami
Speaker 7: does get in the playoffs, which it looks like they
Speaker 7: probably will, they're going to have a hard time stopping
Speaker 7: some people. Oh yeah, but their defense is not that
Speaker 7: good either.
Speaker 2: No, I'm with you. Yeah, I think that's clearly where
Speaker 2: they are vulnerable. But but Matt, I appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 2: Good to hear from your man, and I appreciate you listening.
Speaker 2: And something you said there really stood out to me.
Speaker 2: As far as you've been you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how old you are, how much older
Speaker 2: you are than me, but you know, the losses are
Speaker 2: always going to be disappointing for fans because you know,
Speaker 2: that's part of it, that's part of being a sports fan.
Speaker 2: But when you mentioned, you know, it's really the same
Speaker 2: ten teams every year winning it, maybe that is something
Speaker 2: that I should remind myself. Maybe others can do the
Speaker 2: same thing more than we do.
Speaker 3: Because there's two ways to look at that.
Speaker 2: It's actually pretty demoralizing to think, you know, even if
Speaker 2: we put together the best team we've ever had, and
Speaker 2: we have the best season we've ever had as a program,
Speaker 2: and yet we still probably aren't sniffing a national championship.
Speaker 2: That's kind of demoralizing, is it not. And that's really
Speaker 2: college football for the vast majority of programs there are
Speaker 2: not that. I mean, if you've never won a national
Speaker 2: championship in college football, do you think you're gonna ever
Speaker 2: win one? I mean, it can happen, right, I Mean,
Speaker 2: there's a season every year and maybe somebody breaks through.
Speaker 2: But the last first time national champion being Florida when
Speaker 2: when what's his name was there who's long since retired Spurrier,
Speaker 2: the old ball coach. I mean, that's pretty telling. As
Speaker 2: far as you can have special seasons, you can have
Speaker 2: good seasons, you can feel like you've got a pretty
Speaker 2: damn good team, but as far as like the very
Speaker 2: top of the sport, it's an exclusive group and they
Speaker 2: don't have new members ever. I mean, again, the last
Speaker 2: team to play for a national championship for the first
Speaker 2: time was yeah, TCU, Because if you remember Washington kind
Speaker 2: of felt like that because they'd never really been in
Speaker 2: that spot, at least in my lifetime. But they actually
Speaker 2: can technically because college football.
Speaker 3: I love it. But how we've.
Speaker 2: Determined national championships for the vast majority of the sports
Speaker 2: existence is really really stupid. I mean, you got years
Speaker 2: where three teams can technically pull up a ranking or
Speaker 2: a formula and claim that they're they're national champs. I mean,
Speaker 2: Kentucky tried to do it until they got made fun
Speaker 2: of so much that they pulled that fake trophy they
Speaker 2: put together out of the case.
Speaker 3: Real story too, by the way, you can go look.
Speaker 2: It up, so you know, the demoralizing aspect of it
Speaker 2: is still very real, like, hey, you know, man, we
Speaker 2: could be really good, we could have the best season ever,
Speaker 2: and like we're still probably not realistically sniffing an actual
Speaker 2: national championship. But I guess the way to look at
Speaker 2: it that's not demoralizing is to know that you, if
Speaker 2: that's your team, you are, you're in the majority. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the majority of programs. It's a very it's a
Speaker 2: very exclusive and small group that that that are consistently
Speaker 2: in the mix and realistically national championship contenders.
Speaker 6: Now, I want to weigh in on this. I think
Speaker 6: part of the fun for the fans is the ride too.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you get the national championship, that's obviously
Speaker 6: which you want to have happened. But the majority of
Speaker 6: the season isn't the national championship. It's getting to that point,
Speaker 6: and I think having fun with that part of it,
Speaker 6: which is obviously that's why I'm experiencing right now with Indiana.
Speaker 6: That's a big majority of the fun for me.
Speaker 2: And it's a ride you've never experienced before. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: and that's got to make it fun. And you know,
Speaker 2: I'm envious because it would be a whole lot of fun.
Speaker 2: You know, Louisville last year, I don't know if they
Speaker 2: had hit this point, but because I think right around
Speaker 2: now is when they slipped up and lost a pit
Speaker 2: and you at that point again. I never last year
Speaker 2: like I found myself wanting to kind of be in
Speaker 2: that moment, but the playoff was only at four and
Speaker 2: even though Louisville was technically in a good spot to
Speaker 2: potentially get there, it just didn't really seem realistic. And
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, because I knew maybe they weren't as good as.
Speaker 3: The record showed.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was a part of it, But you
Speaker 2: know what, I think another part of it was me knowing, like, no,
Speaker 2: I can't I can't turn to playoff in national championship
Speaker 2: like expectations, even if I forced myself to, because it's
Speaker 2: not really it's never been realistic at any point, maybe
Speaker 2: other than that special season back in two thousand and
Speaker 2: six when it just happened to I mean, it happened
Speaker 2: to line up pretty perfectly for you where there was
Speaker 2: no team that was that dominant that year, and had
Speaker 2: you held on and beat Rutgers, you probably would have
Speaker 2: ended up playing Ohio State maybe and they you know,
Speaker 2: and we'll never know. But like a lot of folks,
Speaker 2: even objective people, think Louisville was a better team than
Speaker 2: Ohio State that year. So you know, I didn't expect
Speaker 2: that call to kind of lift my spirits a little bit,
Speaker 2: but it did because Matt's right. I mean, at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, you know, you shouldn't be looking
Speaker 2: at championship or busting look. Playoff changes it. But let's
Speaker 2: be real, I don't think the twelve team playoff is
Speaker 2: going to give us an easier path for a first
Speaker 2: time ever national championship winner. But what it does is
Speaker 2: it gives you more inclusion to the big party. It's
Speaker 2: not just two teams like it used to be forever.
Speaker 2: It's not for like it was for about a decade.
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about twelve and I think you can
Speaker 2: chalk up a playoff appearance in the college football playoff
Speaker 2: that is as something that is the equivalent of a
Speaker 2: Final Four in basketball, and those have a lot of value,
Speaker 2: and you realistically can get there now.
Speaker 3: And look, Indiana can get there this year. You know
Speaker 3: it's cool.
Speaker 2: We can't do it now, but you know it wouldn't
Speaker 2: be a shocker for a couple of years. Hell maybe
Speaker 2: next year, maybe they're right there with another opportunity to
Speaker 2: get there, and that makes it more fun.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Sorry, the first round that has the on
Speaker 6: campus games, I mean, it won't be the exact same thing,
Speaker 6: but it's gonna have the same type of feeling as
Speaker 6: the first weekend of the NCAA tournament because you're gonna
Speaker 6: have those home crowds, You're gonna have upsets potentially, and
Speaker 6: it's gonna be something that we haven't seen before because
Speaker 6: they've never done campus playoff games, but it's gonna add,
Speaker 6: you know, just another sense of excitement that we haven't
Speaker 6: seen with college football.
Speaker 2: I think the atmosphere and buzz that you're gonna see
Speaker 2: or experience if you're there in attendance for these home
Speaker 2: playoff games, like that's gonna be so awesome. I mean,
Speaker 2: and I think what it mean again, I know why
Speaker 2: you play a national championship or even like a Final
Speaker 2: Four in a neutral site, but like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: like having these games that take place in the first
Speaker 2: week of the season that are a lot of neutral
Speaker 2: site games like the Chick fil A Kickoff Classic and
Speaker 2: all that, Like, you know, those are fine, but college sports, man, like,
Speaker 2: the vast majority of games should be held at home
Speaker 2: and away situations. I mean, I know in college hoops,
Speaker 2: you know, there's the champions Classic, which serves as like
Speaker 2: the you know, the big tip off event for the sport,
Speaker 2: which you know, usually people aren't in basketball mode by
Speaker 2: that moment, but at least there's a lot of attention
Speaker 2: because you put it on ESPN and you feature some
Speaker 2: of the best brands, the biggest brands in the sport
Speaker 2: of college hoops and those.
Speaker 3: Who love college football.
Speaker 2: They're they're gonna be there already because they give you
Speaker 2: the updated rankings in between those two games. But like,
Speaker 2: why can't you have the Champions Classic but just have
Speaker 2: those games be home and away for those teams? Like,
Speaker 2: I don't understand that. I mean, it's clearly money, and
Speaker 2: you put it in a big market in an NBA arena.
Speaker 2: But like, if you're if you've got a chance to
Speaker 2: give your sport exposure that they typically don't get, don't
Speaker 2: don't do it on a neutral site.
Speaker 3: Do it where you can.
Speaker 2: Like people who don't really get into college football or
Speaker 2: college basketball, what I think would stand out to them
Speaker 2: in a major way is an insane atmosphere where a home,
Speaker 2: a home arena, or a home stadium is completely juiced
Speaker 2: and people are losing their minds. You got a student
Speaker 2: section that's you know, completely amped. Like that, really, I
Speaker 2: think is a better selling point to get more people
Speaker 2: to really want to be in and and and you know,
Speaker 2: love the sport the way a lot of the diehards do.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was surprised when I saw that that's
Speaker 2: how they were doing the twelve team playoff, that there
Speaker 2: would be some games that aren't played in big NFL
Speaker 2: stadiums and big cities. It'll just be a home game
Speaker 2: for certain teams who earned that spot. But I'm happy
Speaker 2: they're doing it, and I think it'll make a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see, because again, money matters more than anything,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure there's a financial component that has led
Speaker 2: to there being so many neutral site games in college
Speaker 2: sports over the years. But I wouldn't be shocked if
Speaker 2: you see these environments and people will realize, Okay, this
Speaker 2: sports at its best when you are on somebody's home quarter,
Speaker 2: home field, and it seems as if wherever you're at,
Speaker 2: that whole state, maybe that whole city is completely shut
Speaker 2: down because everybody is obsessed with this program and it's
Speaker 2: like their religion and they've got a chance to, you know,
Speaker 2: win a college football postseason game, playoff game, but like
Speaker 2: the first time ever.
Speaker 3: So it'll be exciting.
Speaker 2: And we still have no clue exactly who's going to
Speaker 2: be there this year, but I have high hopes for
Speaker 2: the twelve team playoff as far as the entertainment value,
Speaker 2: our quick break will come back on the other side,
Speaker 2: wrap up the four o'clock hour, keep this thing rolling along.
Speaker 2: Maybe talk about last night's exhibition game. We did talk
Speaker 2: about it a little bit at the being of the show,
Speaker 2: but some things that stood out to me. You heard
Speaker 2: a little bit of them last night in the postgame show.
Speaker 2: But there's some belated thoughts I want to share as
Speaker 2: far as what we saw last night, our first glimpse
Speaker 2: of this this Pat Kelsey team.
Speaker 3: Quick break, don't go anywhere. It's Coffee and Company.
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Speaker 2: last night's exhibition game Louisville and Young Harris, I would
Speaker 2: hope that if you were a Louisville fan, you were pleased,
Speaker 2: you were entertained with this team. Twenty four to May
Speaker 2: three pointers, forty three percent from three point range. I
Speaker 2: mean they took seventy eight shots in the game as
Speaker 2: a whole. And that speaks to what Pat Kelsey wants
Speaker 2: to do as far as his team's identity. And you know,
Speaker 2: this is the first year he was, you know, as
Speaker 2: a coach that he's ever been able to go out
Speaker 2: and literally pick players one through you know, thirteen, seemingly,
Speaker 2: and there's not anybody that's been added to this team.
Speaker 2: Rather it be freshman coming in from the high school ranks,
Speaker 2: somebody who followed him from Charleston, or like the bulk
Speaker 2: of the roster is guys that he brought in from
Speaker 2: the portal. All these guys fit with the way he
Speaker 2: wants to play, and I would assume, you know, it's
Speaker 2: been that way every year for him, right. I mean,
Speaker 2: I would assume most coaches, if they have a specific philosophy,
Speaker 2: a specific style of play, which which Pat Kelsey does,
Speaker 2: that you would always want to go out and get
Speaker 2: guys that fit that. But you know, these are guys
Speaker 2: that have played a lot of college basketball, at least
Speaker 2: most of them, and you know they're they're twenty one,
Speaker 2: twenty two, twenty three years old, and they're exactly you
Speaker 2: know that they you know they're they're a piece to
Speaker 2: the puzzle that fits perfectly. And that's why you know
Speaker 2: there's gonna be games where maybe Caseon Pryor just doesn't
Speaker 2: have it going. And he didn't played great last night.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't think he played terrible. He
Speaker 2: just wasn't as efficient with when it comes to making shots,
Speaker 2: didn't shoot it that well.
Speaker 3: But overall, I don't think he played bad.
Speaker 2: It's not as if I'm worried about well, will will
Speaker 2: he be good enough to be, you know, a key
Speaker 2: player for this Louwell team. But if he's if he
Speaker 2: is off, you know you can you can turn into
Speaker 2: a waterman who may be able to you know, have
Speaker 2: a not have a you know, have a big game
Speaker 2: where he's making four or five three pointers and scoring
Speaker 2: fifteen points a game. So you definitely have depth, you
Speaker 2: have the ability to. I mean, you can do the
Speaker 2: whole five in in any substitution if you like. Now
Speaker 2: what I'm curious to see and I don't, it'll it'll
Speaker 2: It'll take a while before we can see this. I
Speaker 2: don't think you're gonna see it against Faulding. Hopefully you
Speaker 2: don't see it against Murray State, but maybe you never
Speaker 2: see it. I just think there'll be a much thinner
Speaker 2: rotation whenever you get to you know, games that are
Speaker 2: neck and neck throughout. But maybe I'm wrong, like maybe
Speaker 2: that maybe the formula is Hey, regardless, if we get
Speaker 2: down big, we're still gonna keep pushing, pushing, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna keep rotating guys in and got guys in and out,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna try our best to get stops, create
Speaker 2: havoc and space the floor. Get as many, you know,
Speaker 2: get as many really good looks as you can. And look,
Speaker 2: I know last night's competition was not much competition at all,
Speaker 2: but regardless of the score, I just, I mean, this
Speaker 2: team clearly has an identity, and yeah, it's an identity
Speaker 2: that can make you vulnerable depending on certain opponents. Right Like,
Speaker 2: if a team is good at slowing it down and
Speaker 2: they've got some big physical presence near the rim, you know,
Speaker 2: you could be in you know, you could you could
Speaker 2: be in trouble. Not to say you can't overcome that
Speaker 2: and you can't scheme around it, but like that, that's
Speaker 2: that's the obvious that's the obvious potential issue for this team.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to call it an issue just
Speaker 2: yet because we don't know. But if you're looking at
Speaker 2: this roster and you're looking at even the production from
Speaker 2: from these guys at their previous school, and you're just
Speaker 2: looking at him in person, right like watching them play,
Speaker 2: they do not have a big physical guy that can
Speaker 2: just you know, not only protect the rim, be a
Speaker 2: rim runner for you, but just give you a physical
Speaker 2: presence down low. I mean, i'd say James Scott is
Speaker 2: your best bet at that and you know, he's a
Speaker 2: true sophomore and I think he plays strong, but he's
Speaker 2: not you know, he's not a Brandon Huntley Hatfield like
Speaker 2: you had a year ago. And I only mentioned him just
Speaker 2: because he's you know, I probably shouldn't mention a guy
Speaker 2: that played here year ago, but he's the first guy
Speaker 2: that came to mind because last year you had that.
Speaker 2: I mean, he he was a guy that more often
Speaker 2: than not, you weren't going to run into many teams
Speaker 2: that had a guy that was that was just as
Speaker 2: big as he was, not only when it comes to
Speaker 2: you know, height, length, but just a guy that's a
Speaker 2: big physical presence, a grown ass man if you will.
Speaker 2: At times, he didn't play like that. We all know that,
Speaker 2: although he did come on and play really well for
Speaker 2: the majority of last season. But yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 2: that's the one thing that would worry me. Also, I
Speaker 2: think defensively, you know, you got some guys that I
Speaker 2: think are good individual defenders. I mean, especially the guys
Speaker 2: that you started, Chucky Hepburn, Javon Hadley, Trey Olray. I
Speaker 2: mean I think those are guys that you you know,
Speaker 2: even James Scott. I think you would say that they're
Speaker 2: good defenders. But what was, you know, eye opening for
Speaker 2: me is that they're going to take risks defensively that
Speaker 2: we're not used to around here. Rather it be from
Speaker 2: Patino or Mac with the Pack line like they're going
Speaker 2: to you know, they're gonna gamble and try to get
Speaker 2: the game played at a fast paced where they can
Speaker 2: get up as many shots as they can. And that's
Speaker 2: that's the formula, and so far it's been effective for Pack. Kelsey,
Speaker 2: I see no reason why it won't be effective here,
Speaker 2: but you know, we shall see. All right, we got
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