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<v Speaker 1>It's nice time with Dan Ray. I'm tell you Boston's Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I welcome back. Everybody. Want to thank my guest last hour,

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Kraft, candidate for Mayor of Boston. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that when you look at some of the issues that

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<v Speaker 2>are starting to percolate in this campaign, it might be

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<v Speaker 2>a more interesting race than anyone, including Mayor Woo expects,

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<v Speaker 2>if Josh Craft gets some footing, particularly in some of

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<v Speaker 2>these issues. And I feel very strongly about the White

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<v Speaker 2>Stadium situation, I really do. I feel that at its core,

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<v Speaker 2>the people who are losing out the most are people

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<v Speaker 2>who live and who rely upon Franklin Park as a

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<v Speaker 2>an island of respite. You know, communities from Dorchester, Mattape

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<v Speaker 2>and Roxbury, West Roxbury, Jamaica, Plane, any of those you know, Roslindale,

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<v Speaker 2>Inner Circle communities in Boston, and for that matter, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston and everyone in the in the in the

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<v Speaker 2>suburbs surrounding Boston go to the Franklin Parks. Who would

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<v Speaker 2>have fabulous who we have under the auspices of John Lennehan,

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<v Speaker 2>who has done such a great job there over many

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<v Speaker 2>many years, and the staff that he's assembled there. The

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<v Speaker 2>golf course, I've never played Franklin Park, but I'm told

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<v Speaker 2>that it's a beautiful course right in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the city. And you have now this opportunity to do

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<v Speaker 2>something with white stadium which would primarily benefit kids in

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<v Speaker 2>the city. That's that's that's what bothers my mind and

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<v Speaker 2>boggles my mind right now. But we'll believe that for

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<v Speaker 2>another night. I just wanted tonight mention that at this

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<v Speaker 2>time last night, we were talking about the uh, the

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<v Speaker 2>the alleged anti Semitic teaching materials on the Israeli Israel

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas War that the Massachusetts Teachers Association under the leader

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<v Speaker 2>ship of Max Paige, had made available to some said,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and seventeen thousand. It's just an amazing number

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<v Speaker 2>of teachers. What a political force. One hundred and seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>thousand teachers, many of them, I'm sure are embarrassed to

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<v Speaker 2>be associated with that union in terms of the allegations

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<v Speaker 2>against the union. However, however, the union today decided to

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<v Speaker 2>withdraw those materials controversial materials. They were, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>clearly antisemitic. I mean, if you looked at any of

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<v Speaker 2>the materials we had invited. The president of that Teachers

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<v Speaker 2>Association to be on the show last night. They have

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<v Speaker 2>declined on a number of points. They are hoping to

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<v Speaker 2>win somehow here in Massachusetts, either through the legislature or

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<v Speaker 2>through a ballot ptition to give teachers the right to strike,

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<v Speaker 2>which that should never happen in Massachusetts. All of these

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<v Speaker 2>teachers strikes in recent years where the Teachers' Union and

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<v Speaker 2>specifically the mass Teachers Association have gone out on strike,

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<v Speaker 2>they're sort of like testing the waters. But anyway, they did,

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<v Speaker 2>with some reluctance, do the right things, so they have

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<v Speaker 2>to be given credit for that. But it can never

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<v Speaker 2>be forgotten that they circulated these teaching materials. And I

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<v Speaker 2>want to thank my guest last night. We had some

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<v Speaker 2>really outstanding telephone calls last night, but we also had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of outstanding guests, Jeff Robins and also Sarah coleb.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both with the Anti Defamation League. And I'm told

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<v Speaker 2>that that those two hours, and specifically the hour with

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Robbins and Sarah Cobe, was circulated today a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to listen to that hour that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hoping might have helped influence the leadership of the mass

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<v Speaker 2>Teachers Union, because I don't think I think the President,

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<v Speaker 2>Max Page had dug his his feet in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>very uh. I shouldn't say he was dug in deep.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I think the Teachers' Union probably said to him, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is We're doing the wrong thing. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a losing issue for us, uh and for our

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<v Speaker 2>reputation as teachers. So however it happened, it happened, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad it did, and we can we can move

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<v Speaker 2>on from that story. But again, never forget what they

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<v Speaker 2>attempted to do. This was some virulently antisemitic material. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>you'll read them about it tomorrow morning in the Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Globe and the Boston Herald. I think it will be

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<v Speaker 2>front page on paid stories. Now, what I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>do is talk a little bit about what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>at the federal government. Yesterday, at about two o'clock, people

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<v Speaker 2>who were on their way or arriving at the Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Public Library, excuse me, at the John F. Kennedy Library

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<v Speaker 2>and Museum. We're told that the JFK Library and Museum,

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<v Speaker 2>which I've visited many many times. I've had the privilege

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<v Speaker 2>of being there as a guest, as a visitor. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually anchored the live opening of the library back in

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<v Speaker 2>October of nineteen seventy nine when the library officially opened,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm very much a kindred spirit of the library.

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<v Speaker 2>And yesterday apparently either someone misunderstood a communication from and

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<v Speaker 2>we still don't know exactly what happened, from the National Archives,

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<v Speaker 2>which apparently is the agency that runs or oversees the

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen presidential libraries around the country, and we're told that

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<v Speaker 2>there were five relatively new young people who were they

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<v Speaker 2>called it the term that uses interface with the public

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<v Speaker 2>selling tickets at the door to enter the library or

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<v Speaker 2>selling books of souvenirs at the library of the Kennedy administration.

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<v Speaker 2>That they were told at some point that their jobs

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<v Speaker 2>had been terminated. And I think I saw one picture

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<v Speaker 2>of a couple of these, they were younger associates, carrying

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<v Speaker 2>out looked like a box of their personal belongings from

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<v Speaker 2>the library. And no one wants to see anyone lose

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<v Speaker 2>a job. I mean, who takes any glee in that?

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<v Speaker 2>I hope no one would actually take joy that someone

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<v Speaker 2>would lose a job, whether they're a veteran of thirty

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<v Speaker 2>years working for a company, or whether they have just

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<v Speaker 2>started a job. But with what's going on with our

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<v Speaker 2>country these days, and that's going to happen, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen to a lot of people. So I

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<v Speaker 2>want to take two approaches to it, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you'll bear with me on the first approach and on

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<v Speaker 2>the second approach. The first approach is, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>feel sorry for anyone who loses a job, But a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people lose the job their jobs in private

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<v Speaker 2>sector fairly frequently, fairly frequently, many people have looked at

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<v Speaker 2>jobs in government, whether it's at the state level, the

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<v Speaker 2>city level, or the federal level, as a career opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you get in somewhere, and in the federal system,

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<v Speaker 2>you become a I think it's called GS twelve or

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<v Speaker 2>GS fourteen, and you move up every year, you make

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more money, and you get some seniority,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're there for life. You there for life, and

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<v Speaker 2>there comes a point in time where you're pretty protected

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not the Republicans are running Congress or the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats are running Congress, or there's a Republican in the

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<v Speaker 2>White House. We're a Democrat in the White House. And

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<v Speaker 2>part of that is to protect people. And the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>administration has arrived with a thud. Here. They now have

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<v Speaker 2>been in office just a little short of a month.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was a month on Monday, but it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be technically a full month tomorrow when it turns February

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth at midnight. And they have done a lot and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of what they've done has been controversial, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have made a lot of statements which have proven

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<v Speaker 2>to be untrue. For example, there was some comments that

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<v Speaker 2>I think attributed to Elon Musk and even were mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>by the new Press Secretary at the White House that

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<v Speaker 2>there were people receiving or receiving social curty checks who

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<v Speaker 2>were one hundred and fifty years old. All that's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much been debunked. Is there fraud abuse? Yeah? Yeah. The

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<v Speaker 2>Government Accounting Office did GAO found a few years ago

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<v Speaker 2>that they believe that in any federal budget there was

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere between two hundred and fifty one billion and some

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<v Speaker 2>other figure like five hundred and thirty billion, million billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars billion would be waste. So so how do you

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<v Speaker 2>get at that, Well, there's some of it that's waste

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<v Speaker 2>that's not going to cost people their jobs, but then

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<v Speaker 2>when you when you look carefully and you realize that, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>how many people are doing this? How many people are

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<v Speaker 2>in this office? You know, there are more and more

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<v Speaker 2>and more in more people working for the government every year. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let me ask you a question, and then we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to phone calls. Let's assume you worked for

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<v Speaker 2>a company. Bear with me on this hypothetical. You worked

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<v Speaker 2>for a company, and let's say it was a small company,

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<v Speaker 2>a small company, five or ten people, and you were

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<v Speaker 2>producing widgets, and the owners of the company came to

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<v Speaker 2>the employees who were not unionized because there's only five

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<v Speaker 2>or ten of you, and said, look, folks, we got

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<v Speaker 2>some bad news. We're going over the books and last

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<v Speaker 2>year we lost three point seven million dollars and we

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<v Speaker 2>can't recover. We may never recover. But in order to

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<v Speaker 2>at least try to save the company, we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to terminate half the staff. Now, that has

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<v Speaker 2>to be a tough job, a tough mess to deliver.

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<v Speaker 2>But you would say, okay, I work for a company

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<v Speaker 2>and we're in the whole three point seven million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they got to stop the bleeding. The most

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<v Speaker 2>recently hired employees probably are going to be showing the door. Okay. Fine.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's say you're in a bigger company, and let's

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<v Speaker 2>say that that company has a couple of hundred employees.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel a little more confident, okay, And whatever they make,

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<v Speaker 2>they make. And the boss comes to you and says, well,

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<v Speaker 2>look here, we got problems last year. We've been losing

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<v Speaker 2>money for many years, but last year we lost three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy five million dollars. Okay, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred employees. We can't carry We can't lose three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy five million dollars and maintain stay in

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<v Speaker 2>business with two hundred employees. So we're going to ask

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<v Speaker 2>about fifty of you. We're gonna lay you off, we

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<v Speaker 2>gonna terminate you. If we get back on our feet,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll bring you back. That happens in companies across America

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<v Speaker 2>every day of the week. You read it on the

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<v Speaker 2>business pages. What happens. Let's say you work now for

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<v Speaker 2>a huge company, a huge company, I mean a big

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<v Speaker 2>international company, and they say, look we lost last quarter

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<v Speaker 2>three point seventy five billion dollars. You know, layoffs are common.

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<v Speaker 2>They you can't keep losing, you can't keep losing money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happens if you work for the federal government

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<v Speaker 2>and they tell you, look, we have a debt. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a debt of thirty six point two trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't even keep up with the debt. We have

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<v Speaker 2>no choice. I listen to one person today who said

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<v Speaker 2>that federal workers are are the life stream of the company,

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<v Speaker 2>the bloodstream of the country. Yeah. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think more and more things

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<v Speaker 2>that the federal government does can be turned over to computers. Sadly, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not right now, child Security checks and Medicare checks

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<v Speaker 2>by hand anymore. So there's gonna be people who are

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<v Speaker 2>going to lose their jobs. And some of the people

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<v Speaker 2>are going to lose their jobs. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>really unfair. It's going to be sad. Okay. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be people who lose their jobs who have recently lost

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<v Speaker 2>the spouse. There's going to be people who lose their

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<v Speaker 2>jobs who have a kid who's very sick. There's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be people who lose their jobs who maybe we're

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<v Speaker 2>in the military and suffer wounds in the military. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope they can they can mitigate some of those losses,

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<v Speaker 2>but government employment cannot be guaranteed for everyone for life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the reality that we're looking at now. Call me cold,

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<v Speaker 2>call me cruel, call me insensitive, call me anything you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't call me late for dinner, but call me anything

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<v Speaker 2>you want. Am I making sense or no? Six ones

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<v Speaker 2>that opened myself up to that criticism. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty lines are full. Two lines at six 't seven, nine, three,

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<v Speaker 2>one ten thirty. Be prepared, brace yourself. There's going to

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<v Speaker 2>to eliminate fraud, abuse and duplications. And I don't take

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<v Speaker 2>the baby boomer generation and the generation two or three

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<v Speaker 2>after us, are going to pass from this mortal coil

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<v Speaker 2>mortal or if you will, and pass on thirty seven

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<v Speaker 2>coming back on nights. You have the numbers. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's get it going here, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>Matt first, as hour and nights.

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<v Speaker 3>I go ahead, Matt, Hey, Dan, I we're just giving

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<v Speaker 3>they're like really should be approved by Congress and studied

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean, there's like five contractors for every one

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<v Speaker 3>to affect red states, like they're already cut in the

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<v Speaker 3>Park Service not hiring new ones, so it's like you're

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<v Speaker 3>not really saving that much money per employee, and then

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<v Speaker 3>like what it does to these rural and local economies

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<v Speaker 3>the federal funds. It seems like we're doing all this

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<v Speaker 3>while talking about laising the debt for trillion dollars next

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the debt. That's that is the debt ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>that we're talking about. That's similar a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 2>let me ask you this. Okay, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm mid thirties, mid thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm going to say, just for the fun,

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<v Speaker 4>Right, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know what the federal debt is right now?

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<v Speaker 2>It's thirty six point two trillion dollars. That's an extraordinary number. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinary number. What are we going to do with that?

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<v Speaker 2>How do we deal with that? We talked, We had

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<v Speaker 2>from Harvard University. It's a huge number, man, What do

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at different times we all had debt. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>This just reminds me of like you're a gambling addict.

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<v Speaker 4>You max out your credit cards and you're like, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, I still have all this stuff in my house.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna pond to go back and then if it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't work out, then you lost all the services that

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<v Speaker 4>like basically the hell of it, because I mean all

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<v Speaker 4>we're saving like one percent of the budget on an

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<v Speaker 4>annual basis, But then you're talking about, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like raise this by four trillion, cut taxes by four trillion.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like really not going to help things in the

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<v Speaker 4>grand scheme of things. And it's kind of like probably

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<v Speaker 4>upset a lot of people going forward, and there's an

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<v Speaker 4>when they're like, oh well, I mean like I have

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<v Speaker 4>but we have the national parks. Oh yeah, like none

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<v Speaker 4>of my low cost resident's going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you look there is politics is always and

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<v Speaker 2>if Trump and the Republicans don't handle this smartly, uh

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<v Speaker 2>and and do it effectively and produce some results they

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<v Speaker 2>should be thrown out of office. I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>simple that's the way it works, That's the way it.

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<v Speaker 4>Went, all across the all across the board. They should

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<v Speaker 4>be I mean, I think only like what twenty of

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<v Speaker 4>that's the biggest problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Most Congress we've done. We've told you before that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>loves their local congressman. They hate Congress, but they love

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<v Speaker 2>of times a year when he walks through and hats

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<v Speaker 2>you in the back. Hey, buddy, how you doing great

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<v Speaker 2>to see you, say to the wife and the kids

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<v Speaker 2>for me, will you He has no idea what your

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's it's a dilemma. You're right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do not.

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<v Speaker 4>They haven't done a lot since the last the Clinton impeachment.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't won.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like they haven't done a lot since the

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<v Speaker 4>Clinton impeachment. It just like every single year we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to like this fight with each other, and then that's

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<v Speaker 4>probably like the last time I really accomplished buch of any.

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<v Speaker 2>When Clinton left office in two thousand and one and

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<v Speaker 2>George Bush took over. We had a federal debt of

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<v Speaker 2>about ten trillion dollars. And by the way, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars, you got to make you got to make

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand million dollars to get to one billion. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if you get to a trillion, you got to make

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand billion to get to one trillion. And we

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<v Speaker 2>old thirty seven trillion dollars. It's a lot of mone

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<v Speaker 4>And unfortunately we can't get rid of the military because

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of it annoyed the whole world. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that that's one solution there. You can't get rid of.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think we want to disarmed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that would be a good idea. I

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<v Speaker 4>We'll be posting like two seconds, so what would be toasted?

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<v Speaker 4>I think we'd be toasting about two seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, r'd be worse than toast. Well, all right, I

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<v Speaker 2>still haven't given me a solution. And do you want

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<v Speaker 4>You about probably like a ten year budget cut or

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<v Speaker 4>five to ten year set in stone, like similar at

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<v Speaker 4>the UK austerity plan, and see how that works out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, let's see if they put something like that

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<v Speaker 2>in place. I mean that's that someone has has said

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<v Speaker 2>some of those before. You Just you cut the budget

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<v Speaker 2>by one percent every year, there will be some harm there.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you keep if you're able to cut it

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<v Speaker 2>by one percent. It's just like in your own budget,

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<v Speaker 2>if you say to yourself, look, I'm going to cut

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<v Speaker 2>back my spending this month. What can I get rid of? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, instead of having five beers every Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, go to the ball and spend twenty million.

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<v Speaker 4>That's about a solution. What's that Go to the super

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<v Speaker 4>Bowl and spend twenty million dollars for the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I often people who are going to be doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. I appreciate your comment. Talk soon, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to try to move people just a little

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan Danvers Bill, your thoughts on what's going on with

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, I mean, you know it has to even with

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<v Speaker 5>same time. You know they can. They can, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>get those tax cuts past and get fuel prices down

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<v Speaker 5>and everything else. Because but you know the fact that

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<v Speaker 5>they closed. They always do this basically, you know, they

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<v Speaker 5>want to show on important that you know, the world's

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<v Speaker 5>going to stop if you know, government work. He gets

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<v Speaker 5>laid off and because they want to inconvenience to public,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and then people buy into it. The media

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<v Speaker 5>seems to love it. I mean, you got the USA

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<v Speaker 5>today writing stories ar it's terrible these guys got laid

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<v Speaker 5>off and Trump's a bad guy and Musk and or whoever.

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<v Speaker 5>And but I don't see the USA today They didn't

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<v Speaker 5>write any stories about the guys that got taken out

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<v Speaker 5>in the Keystone pipeline. When Biden came in and they

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<v Speaker 2>And there's also there's also a lot of newspapers that

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<v Speaker 2>have folded in recent years in America, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that you get up on your screen. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>that the payroll at the Boston Globe and the Boston

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, you know, I mean this basically comes down.

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<v Speaker 5>who basically basically parts of the elites and the government structure.

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<v Speaker 5>They're basically another rail of the government basically, and and

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<v Speaker 2>Think, Bill, You're throwing some of the terms around the

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<v Speaker 2>elite medium and all that. I think it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>different than that. And let me tell you what I think. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever noticed the guys that the guys and

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<v Speaker 2>women that cover sports teams locally. They got to get

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<v Speaker 2>close to the players. They need the players to interview,

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<v Speaker 2>get you know, if if, if, the Red Sox, you

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<v Speaker 2>get those interviews? A lot of the times when you

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<v Speaker 2>the nice stories. There were no negative stories. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>someone's gonna have a great year this year. Last year

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<v Speaker 2>he was injured, but this year he's going to hit

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<v Speaker 2>thirty home runs, have one hundred RBIs, and he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>media covers Paulic Titians, and they need access to the politicians,

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<v Speaker 2>want to be going to go into journalism and say, now,

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<v Speaker 2>some of them may be a little bit more progressive

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<v Speaker 2>into it saying what I want to do is I

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times, and I want to extoll the

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<v Speaker 2>virtues of Bernie Sanders. I don't think so. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they that's that's who they were assigned to cover.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but they go to the same cocktail potties Dan too,

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<v Speaker 5>and they just seem being able leader.

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<v Speaker 2>They interact, They interact. It's the same way with the

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<v Speaker 2>sports writers and the sportscasters. They're they're on the road

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<v Speaker 2>with the guys, so they have you know, they have

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<v Speaker 2>an off night, they haven't dinner with a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>the players. What do they do say? No, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a sports writer and I cannot My ethics don't

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<v Speaker 2>allow me to socialize with the players. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine some reporter or call him to saying

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<v Speaker 2>I refuse to interact with any politician Democratic, Republican there

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<v Speaker 2>are beneath me. I will cover them objectively, but I

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<v Speaker 2>will not interact with him. That's just the human nature.

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<v Speaker 5>And in a way, you really think they would almost

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<v Speaker 5>like Trump with the access. I mean, the guy every

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<v Speaker 5>time he does something, you'll take questions for twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean probably, and well, I will say it's a

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<v Speaker 5>month tomorrow, right, They're probably had more access and there's

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<v Speaker 5>been more questions to be counted up in air time

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<v Speaker 5>than Biden in six months or a year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>he made a statement, used to run off you see

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<v Speaker 5>the back of his head, and he just shoot up

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<v Speaker 5>the back, you know, you know the guy, he just

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<v Speaker 5>let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what I'm just trying to expect. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we could. You know, if a lot of people watch

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<v Speaker 2>the right wing newscasts and it's the mainstream media and

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<v Speaker 2>it's the media elites, and it's all of this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the media, Okay. I have friends on both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>I like people on both sides. But I can criticize

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<v Speaker 2>who I want. It's I think our job is to

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<v Speaker 2>criticize what they want. When when Elon Musk is up

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<v Speaker 2>there the other day saying that there's whatever the number was,

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<v Speaker 2>he was talking about like ten thousand people getting solid

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<v Speaker 2>scurity checks who are over one hundred and fifty years

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<v Speaker 2>of age, that was flat. That was just untrue. That

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<v Speaker 2>was from La La Land. I have no idea where

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<v Speaker 2>he got I have an idea where he got that figure.

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<v Speaker 2>But I found out today something really interesting which I

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<v Speaker 2>did not know. Did you know that funeral directors are

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<v Speaker 2>obligated to report to the social Security system when they

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<v Speaker 2>bury someone.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I knew that because I have good close friends

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<v Speaker 5>that are funeral directors and I'm in.

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<v Speaker 2>The line of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I didn't know that. I believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>Your spouse or your family member was supposed to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>return the checks and say so I learned something. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just think somebody fed that to Elon. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>I understand why there was some sort of old computer

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<v Speaker 2>system that whatever. Is this a fraud? Yeah? But were

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<v Speaker 2>there like thousands of people getting checks one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years after they were born?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think, although when I read and investigated it,

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<v Speaker 7>although that it's still in the database does pose a

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<v Speaker 7>problem because other government agencies that rely on that database

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<v Speaker 7>and those people are still there, they still think they're active.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you look into that story a little bit,

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to read into that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to What I want to do is

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get the real facts bills. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I want. I don't want the facts.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I read it. I fed into me by left wing

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<v Speaker 2>or right wingers. I want to get the facts. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I do during the day. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 2>try to do as much research.

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<v Speaker 5>And I believe the statement that I just stayed said,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't you during the breaks you probably talked to

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<v Speaker 5>Rob or whatever you playing in the show. But I

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<v Speaker 5>believe it's even on WBZ that statement I just said,

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<v Speaker 5>because I think I even heard it before I got

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<v Speaker 5>out of the cot tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, all right, Bill, thank you much, keep talking here,

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<v Speaker 2>have a great night. Let me go to Susan in Cambridge,

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<v Speaker 2>Susan next time, nightside go.

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<v Speaker 6>Ahead, Hey, Dan, I wanted to second a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>what your first caller, Matt thinks said and and but

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<v Speaker 6>first I wanted to say that, you know you said nobody,

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<v Speaker 6>hopefully nobody enjoys firing people. Well, Elon Musk and Donald

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<v Speaker 6>Trump have both said that they do. They're vehemently anti union,

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<v Speaker 6>and they have both said in the discussion that you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they love to fire people. So, uh now, in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of you know, making cuts, you know that may be necessary,

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<v Speaker 6>do you feel really indiscriminate? One thing that's maybe not

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<v Speaker 6>known is that, you know, when they talk about probationary employees,

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<v Speaker 6>those are not necessarily entirely new employees. If employees are

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<v Speaker 6>moved to a different department or are promoted. They are

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<v Speaker 6>probationary in the federal government, so you're not just losing, like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the last people in. You know, you're losing

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<v Speaker 6>people who may have some valuable experience. But the big

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<v Speaker 6>thing that I wanted to again going back to what

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<v Speaker 6>Matt said, is that sure, you can make cuts, but

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<v Speaker 6>then why on earth are they already asking for a

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<v Speaker 6>four point five trillion dollars that increase the largest ever

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<v Speaker 6>so that they can provide tax cuts. There's two sides too,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, trimming our debt. One is spending, the other

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<v Speaker 6>is revenue. And if you're going to just take away

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<v Speaker 6>all that revenue, then you just create a bigger hole.

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<v Speaker 6>And you're also going to promote inflation. I mean, massive

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<v Speaker 6>tax cuts are hugely inflationary. And we're kind of right

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<v Speaker 6>on the customer.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, okay, I got the speech, and I'll let you

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<v Speaker 2>go for a minute fifty five, which is great, and

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<v Speaker 2>nothing you said to me surprised me. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>it is opinion. Let's see how it works out. My

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<v Speaker 2>question to you is this, you are really smart, Susan.

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<v Speaker 2>I've told you that before, and I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 2>to patronize you. How do we work our way out

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<v Speaker 2>of a thirty six point two trillion dollar federal debt.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we do that? When? Are you?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that's what I said, it needs to be. It

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<v Speaker 6>needs to be both on both sides, spending and revenue.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when you just so we're talking about let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk real numbers. Okay, real numbers. Let's assume you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to raise taxes dramatically. We have a federal budget every

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<v Speaker 2>year now it's somewhere around six and a half trillion dollars, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and we raise little taxes somewhere around four trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty close on those numbers. How much more do

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<v Speaker 2>you think we can raise taxes?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying that we should raise them tremendously, but

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think we should be cutting them tremendously either.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, we really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna agree with you, Susan, I'm gonna agree with you. Okay, Thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll agree with you on that. Okay. So now here's

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<v Speaker 2>my question to wipe out this thirty seven trillion dollar debt.

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<v Speaker 2>How much do you think we can raise taxes?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I don't have Again, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>Budgets of the budget. The federal budget right now is

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<v Speaker 2>about seven trillion dollars, and we raise taxes of all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts about four and a half trillion. So we'll add

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<v Speaker 2>another two trillion dollars to the federal debt. A year

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<v Speaker 2>from now, the federal debt will be.

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<v Speaker 6>Thirty is not raising taxes or is that growing the

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<v Speaker 6>or is that the tax bas just naturally growing? I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>how much of that is just you know, what I'm

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<v Speaker 6>saying right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is that every year we come up short about

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<v Speaker 2>two trillion in depth in the deficit, which then gets

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<v Speaker 2>added to the debt. So all I'm saying, raise taxes

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<v Speaker 2>all you want, raise taxes till till everybody in America

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<v Speaker 2>pays all their money in taxes. That's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. That's not going to do it. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to be some severe cuts.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>More we're just going to continue down the line. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the question becomes next, The next call you and

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<v Speaker 2>I have is I want you to come back and

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<v Speaker 2>tell me what do you think could legitimately be cut?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we got it gonna have to do. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to raise the soci security retirement age.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, security is is a separate entity to the rest

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<v Speaker 6>of the budget. So I mean that's it's a huge part.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge part of it is a huge part

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<v Speaker 2>of an additional unfunded liability. Okay, when so Scurty runs

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<v Speaker 2>out of money, what do you think they're going to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Say that's it? No more so Scurty checks. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to think about those numbers, and next time,

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to come back and I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to me about areas of cuts that you

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<v Speaker 2>think would be legitimate, that would that actually would cut

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<v Speaker 2>the cut the debt.

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<v Speaker 8>Fair enough, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't think they should all be born by

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<v Speaker 6>personnel or the poorest, which is just.

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<v Speaker 2>What I just want to know what they are. You

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<v Speaker 2>can tell me whatever you want. You can tell me

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<v Speaker 2>that we close the we close the national parts on

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<v Speaker 2>Sundays and holidays, whatever. You just give me some examples

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<v Speaker 2>of how we can save some real money. That's I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just looking for some examples, and I'm and I'm challenging

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<v Speaker 2>you to come up with some. Okay, fair enough, Thanks Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. Take a quick break coming back on night Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on w b Z the news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Next up is Alan new Hampshire, Al next on Nightsider.

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<v Speaker 2>Right ahead, Hey.

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<v Speaker 8>Dan, thank you very much, if you don't mind, if

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<v Speaker 8>you just give me a minute, I have a solution.

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<v Speaker 8>I have four one zero based budgeting. We need to

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<v Speaker 8>return the federal government to zero based budgeting. Every year

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<v Speaker 8>we just increase. If there was a year, last year's

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<v Speaker 8>increased with three percent, then the following years one percent,

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<v Speaker 8>which was previously on the last year three percent. We

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<v Speaker 8>need to figure out and go back to zero based

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<v Speaker 8>budgeting where every office has to put a line item

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<v Speaker 8>in exactly what they need and why they need it,

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<v Speaker 8>et cetera, et cetera. This start having people bringing money back,

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<v Speaker 8>in other words, if it's not spent, it's return back

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<v Speaker 8>the way it is now. It forces them to continue

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<v Speaker 8>to just continue to fund. And more importantly, the second

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<v Speaker 8>part of that is, you know, because something's budgeted there's

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<v Speaker 8>a line item doesn't mean that it. You know, after

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<v Speaker 8>the budget has passed, they use it for that specific

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<v Speaker 8>line item. Once the budget's in, you can use it

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<v Speaker 8>the way they want. The second is we start looking

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<v Speaker 8>at Graham Runman again nineteen eighty three emergency balance budget.

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<v Speaker 8>We can do that the Constitution through the States. There's

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<v Speaker 8>an Article five Convention of the States. Is our founding

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<v Speaker 8>fathers gave us that in the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the federal Do know that's that's that's looney tunes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's never going to happen, all right.

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<v Speaker 8>And the last case is, before there's any fraud and

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<v Speaker 8>there's any you know, before we go after Social Security,

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<v Speaker 8>we need to make sure that we take care of

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<v Speaker 8>the fraud. If Trump's going to go after it, or

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<v Speaker 8>anyone's going to touch Social Security, he needs to go

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<v Speaker 8>to the people after uh, he has taken care of

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<v Speaker 8>the fraud and the abuse, and then the people would

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<v Speaker 8>be more willing to take a step up and do

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<v Speaker 8>their part. But they're not going to do it when

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<v Speaker 8>a federal government, we don't clean out this fraud and

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<v Speaker 8>waste any Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is that that this week Musk made some

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<v Speaker 2>claims about fraud in Social Security which have been proven

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<v Speaker 2>to be patently untrue. So when you when you stand

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<v Speaker 2>in the Oval office and say that there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>many people on Social Security who's birth dates are getting checks,

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<v Speaker 2>but whose birth dates were one hundred and fifty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't know what he was talking about. There apparently

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<v Speaker 2>is an antiquated system where when they don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>birth dates of individual I guess they put it in

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<v Speaker 2>at eighteen seventy five and hence this were the one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred fifty year. So many people one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>some RIZK kids saw all those numbers and said, we got,

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<v Speaker 2>we got, you know, tens of thousands, maybe millions of

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<v Speaker 2>people who are getting jags who have been dead for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sixty five seventy years.

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<v Speaker 8>Point of clarification, it doesn't have to be the social

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<v Speaker 8>Security system. I mean. And in other words, for someone

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<v Speaker 8>to take a hit on Social Security, he would have

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<v Speaker 8>to say the federal government has done its part throughout

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<v Speaker 8>its government. It's looked across the board. It's fought fraud,

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<v Speaker 8>it's fought waste. And now you know, coming to the

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<v Speaker 8>American people in another fashion, raising the as you agree,

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<v Speaker 8>I agree with you raising rates or you know age rates.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you raised, you raise you raise again. That suggests

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<v Speaker 2>you listen to our show Monday nine at nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>with Professor Jeff Myron from Harvard.

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<v Speaker 8>It was a thing, I mean, think about it. Our

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<v Speaker 8>death about one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars per

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<v Speaker 8>person right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's more than that, it's got about three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand per person.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the unfunded part. I agree that's crazy, though people

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<v Speaker 8>don't in that well.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, first of all, most people don't understand economics. They

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<v Speaker 2>understand when they reach in their pocket and they have

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<v Speaker 2>no money on Thursday afternoon, they have to wait until

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<v Speaker 2>they get their paycheck on Friday. But the concept of

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven trillion dollar federal debt that we are, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that we owe other governments around the world, that we

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<v Speaker 2>owe ourselves, and that we're paying interest on interest is accumulating.

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<v Speaker 2>The average person doesn't have a clue. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>the price of eggs go from two fifty nine to

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<v Speaker 2>three ninety nine, people are upset, rightfully, so Briyce eggs

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<v Speaker 2>have gone up a dollar and a half of the

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<v Speaker 2>last week. Oh my god, the sky is falling. But

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<v Speaker 2>you ask him about the how much is the federal debt?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know how much is it.

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<v Speaker 2>But they know the price of eggs, and and it's

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<v Speaker 2>good to know the I know the price of eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>I paid for ninety nine. I wasn't happy about that

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<v Speaker 2>this week for a dozen eggs, but I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for ninety nine for a dozen eggs, then to

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<v Speaker 2>pay four ninety nine for fifteen gallons of gasoline when

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<v Speaker 2>I fill up.

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<v Speaker 8>I thought Monday's was the most powerful your station on

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<v Speaker 8>Monday or your show was so powerful. It really should

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<v Speaker 8>be played again, and I'm so it's a public it will.

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<v Speaker 2>Be played the interview with the interview, the Hour with

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Myron will be played on Sunday night at eleven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>We played the best of Nightside every Sunday night at

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<v Speaker 2>eleven pm, so I anyone who's missed it, let people

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<v Speaker 2>know that. Well. I appreciate you calling your loyalty to

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<v Speaker 2>the program. I got around. Okay, kiss, I'm up against

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<v Speaker 2>the news. Here, talk to you, Talk to you soon,

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<v Speaker 2>call more often.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Here comes the eleven. We'll be right back and let's

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<v Speaker 2>light these phones up. Uh. I want to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. Those lines

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<v Speaker 2>are full. The line to the way to get through

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven, nine three, one ten thirty. I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>gratified with the number of people who have called, and

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<v Speaker 2>the quality of the calls. That's what's most important to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent hour. Let's keep it up during the eleventh