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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>We're ending up this latest daily briefing on what was

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<v Speaker 2>referred to earlier today as the fire siege that we

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<v Speaker 2>have seen at the beginning of twenty twenty five. Out

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<v Speaker 2>of state resources good news continue to arrive in to

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<v Speaker 2>this area as we battle these continued fires. The National

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<v Speaker 2>Weather Service does say that the red flag conditions are

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<v Speaker 2>going to stay in effect through Friday probably. And the

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<v Speaker 2>number that I was always the number that I was

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<v Speaker 2>always questioning, was the thirty thousand people who had been evacuated.

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<v Speaker 2>The sheriff said there were one hundred and eighty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people who are under current evacuation orders, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty thousand and then another two hundred thousand under evacuation

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<v Speaker 2>warnings throughout La counted.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to Conway last night when the Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>fire broke out, and you could just hear it in

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<v Speaker 1>his voice or he was kind of like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>not another one, not there, And I think everyone had

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<v Speaker 1>that gut punch as well. I mean, we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>from the Palisades to Altadena and then you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>just kept getting worse. I mean, usually we're used to

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<v Speaker 1>covering these fires, and you know, there's the initial burst

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<v Speaker 1>and the initial devastation and the homes lost, and then

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours later, it's a different kind of vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't been that way. It's been what's next, What's next?

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<v Speaker 1>Since the Palisades fire erupted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the Palisades Fire itself continues to grow. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a very I mean today it's what you would

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<v Speaker 2>probably consider more normal fire behavior. Yeah, but it's going

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<v Speaker 2>the other direction now. I mean when it started.

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<v Speaker 3>On Tuesday, what day is today?

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<v Speaker 4>Today is Thursday?

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<v Speaker 3>Today? Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>When it started on Tuesday, it was going from the

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<v Speaker 2>hill down to the beach. Now it's going up north

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<v Speaker 2>towards the valley and east towards the four or five.

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<v Speaker 3>Much much slower.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the benefit of having very little wind.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is going in those uphill areas, which it

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<v Speaker 2>tends to go faster than if it were going downhill

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<v Speaker 2>or on flat lane.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm wondering if they said those backfires to protect

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<v Speaker 1>even more homes in the Palisades. It doesn't sound like

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<v Speaker 1>there's many left. Honestly, the devastation is vast there. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there are no roads, really, I mean there are roads,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's no homes. And you know, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it this morning about yeah, okay, so your home survives,

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<v Speaker 1>your home, maybe one other home on the road, those

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<v Speaker 1>are not inhabitable.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, one of the images from this morning was right

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<v Speaker 2>along pch in Malibu area, where right past Dukes. We

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about a few dozen homes right along the

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<v Speaker 2>strand right along the beach in Malibu, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>they're gone, and then there's one still standing or two

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<v Speaker 2>still standing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, you're poin. So what do you go

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<v Speaker 3>back to?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't I mean, at least you have your stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that's in your home. Your home probably smells and your

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<v Speaker 1>stuff will always smell like fire. But at least, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you have your stuff. But you can't live there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not safe to live in a neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>where everything's been decimated like that. And why would you

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<v Speaker 1>why would you want to live in the apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 2>There's still a lot We talked about this at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the show yesterday. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>questions that need to be answered. Whether it's by fire officials,

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<v Speaker 2>by political officials, whoever, about what it is that's going

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<v Speaker 2>on at what caused this, what prompted this, Why we

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<v Speaker 2>were so un or should say, incapable of handling it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot of it is just the wind.

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<v Speaker 2>You could could do anything right. There was no amount

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<v Speaker 2>of water in the tanks, There's nothing. There are questions

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<v Speaker 2>that simply will go will never have a fulfilling answer.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll never be able to pin the blame on anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You were never going to minimize the devastation. But there

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<v Speaker 1>are questions that have been addressed. I still think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little too early, but they're surfacing to the fire

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<v Speaker 1>department on the city level when you're dealing with the

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<v Speaker 1>most devastating fire in city history. The lack of water pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course the statewide effort to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>water in northern California from coming down here because of

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<v Speaker 1>the Baby smelt.

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<v Speaker 3>So all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Insurance, I mean, that's another massive issue that we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about over of course of the next few days

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<v Speaker 2>and weeks and probably months.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest, a lot of the insurance policies canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>What James Wood said four months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Just months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's not just there, it's not just in

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<v Speaker 2>the Palisades.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a California thing.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something that's happening throughout the Western United States,

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<v Speaker 2>concentrated here in Kema.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's going to keep getting worse because the

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<v Speaker 1>fires get worse and we live in these urban wildlife

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<v Speaker 1>interface areas all over the California area.

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<v Speaker 2>A quick rundown of what we know, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go out to Altadena here in just a second.

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<v Speaker 2>The Palisades fires up to seventeen two hundred plus acres

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<v Speaker 2>as of right now. They said the number of damaged

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<v Speaker 2>or destroyed buildings is into the thousands, thousands some of

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, the eastern and northern flanks of the fire

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<v Speaker 2>are moving towards the four or five. They're moving north

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<v Speaker 2>towards the vout very very slowly compared to what we

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<v Speaker 2>saw twenty four forty eight hours ago. But that is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that is still growing. Eaten fire

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<v Speaker 2>in Altadena. Pasadena's up at ten thousand, six hundred acres,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said most of the growth in that one

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<v Speaker 2>has been significantly stopped. But you're still talking about over

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand. Again, they just they don't have a good

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<v Speaker 2>count on this yet, but over a thousand structures damaged

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<v Speaker 2>or destroyed. The rest of the fires, they're fine, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's worry about the two big ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the ones that we're going to be talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about Alta Dina. I live in a town

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<v Speaker 1>over from Alta Dina and it was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>areas where I looked when we were looking to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a house and move in that area. And the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Alta Dina is it's very special. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the places with great history in this area. It is

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<v Speaker 1>got kind of a small town feel about it. You

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<v Speaker 1>brought up yesterday the loss of things like the hardware store.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen a lot of businesses. It's not just wildland,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a lot of wildland in Altadena there. I

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<v Speaker 1>go hiking there all the time. That area has all

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<v Speaker 1>been devastated. But you saw a lot of homes go up.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of that checkerboard type style of a home

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<v Speaker 1>is here gone across the street.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>The home next to that one across the street gone

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<v Speaker 1>on the flip side of the street, the home is standing.

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<v Speaker 1>This was also one of those areas where there were

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of first responders seen, and not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people telling put down your hoses and leave.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I know at least personally a few people

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<v Speaker 1>that stayed behind and were just watering down trees and

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<v Speaker 1>fences yesterday because the first responders were spread so thin there.

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<v Speaker 1>But the devastation now is just becoming apparent. Michael Monks

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<v Speaker 1>is there. He is at the corner of Mariposa there

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<v Speaker 1>in El Molino. Is that right, Michael?

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<v Speaker 5>That's exactly right right outside where that hardware store used

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<v Speaker 5>to be. It is a scene of just utter destruction,

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<v Speaker 5>like something out of a Hollywood set. It's just unbelievable

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<v Speaker 5>to stand here and absorb this. I mean, we've seen

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<v Speaker 5>some of them, will tell you that we've seen some

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<v Speaker 5>of the TV. I'm sorry of the neighborhood itself, where

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<v Speaker 5>there are just power lines down. You can't recognize which home,

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<v Speaker 5>where one home starts and the other one ends because

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<v Speaker 5>of the fire and the collapsed nature of the buildings.

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<v Speaker 5>What is it that you're seeing from that intersection. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a tale of four corners really, and Shannon really explained

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<v Speaker 5>it well. I mean, there's it's so random how this

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<v Speaker 5>fire chows what to destroy, because there are, of course

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<v Speaker 5>blocks that are leveled, and then there are other blocks

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<v Speaker 5>where one or two homes were taken in.

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<v Speaker 3>The one in the middle wasn't. It's just been so

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<v Speaker 3>strange to see that.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you right now, it looks and feels like

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<v Speaker 5>it's the evening already. It's only barely twenty after nine,

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<v Speaker 5>and the sun is this weird shade of pink. It's

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<v Speaker 5>tucked behind clouds and smoke. The air is thick, it's

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<v Speaker 5>very difficult to breathe. But here at this intersection, on

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<v Speaker 5>one side, one corner, that hardware store in an old

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<v Speaker 5>brick strip mall next to an insurance agent's that's gone.

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<v Speaker 5>The frame is still standing. Across the street from that,

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<v Speaker 5>everything is completely leveled. Then coming over to the other

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<v Speaker 5>side of the street, there's a corner, and it's an

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<v Speaker 5>interesting site because there's this sign, just a small wooden sign,

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<v Speaker 5>facing the corner advertising rentals in the Mariposa town Homes,

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<v Speaker 5>and that sign has not suffered a lick of damage. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 5>behind the sign, the town homes are gone, completely flattened

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<v Speaker 5>and leveled. And then the last corner is particularly interesting

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<v Speaker 5>because the buildings, so for no damage at all, and

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<v Speaker 5>it just happens to be a fire station. And so

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<v Speaker 5>as I'm standing here, I'm watching a lot of the

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<v Speaker 5>firefighters who are clearly coming back from the thick of it,

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<v Speaker 5>taking a little rest, taking a little break, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>watching them get right back in their trucks and head

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<v Speaker 5>back out. Another interesting scene that I saw right here

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<v Speaker 5>in this neighborhood, in on a side of the street

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<v Speaker 5>that does not appear to have suffered any damage at all.

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<v Speaker 5>There seem to be a couple I guess that we're

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<v Speaker 5>standing out here, likely the homeowners, and there was a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of smoldering in their mault near the curb

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<v Speaker 5>on the street, and they were tending to it. They

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<v Speaker 5>were digging it out and pouring a little bit of

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<v Speaker 5>water on there. So there are residents who are still

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<v Speaker 5>here despite what has happened to their neighbors across the street,

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<v Speaker 5>and it looks like they are playing defense right now

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<v Speaker 5>against any of those floating embers. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 5>there's lots of smoke coming off the ground. There are

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<v Speaker 5>little pockets of flames. The cars on the street just

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<v Speaker 5>burned out, Utility poles split in half, wires hanging again.

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<v Speaker 5>It just looks apocalyptic, something out of a scene from

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<v Speaker 5>The Walking Dead.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen more people in Alta Dina just appearing in

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<v Speaker 1>shock and in tears, and it's a lot of whiplash

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<v Speaker 1>there still. Because this was one of those fires where

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<v Speaker 1>there was no time. I think what I've heard from

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<v Speaker 1>people who live there is we didn't even know there

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<v Speaker 1>was a fire burning there until.

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<v Speaker 4>It was time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was almost too late to evacuate, let alone getting

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<v Speaker 1>an evacuation warning and an evacuation order. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>it happened so suddenly, and then coming back to find out, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a fire. Wait I had to evacuate, and wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a house left, and the businesses are gone.

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<v Speaker 5>In a blink of an eye, this beautiful city has

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<v Speaker 5>there's this little side street that is a private street.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a sign out front that makes that clear, and

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<v Speaker 5>you can tell even now that that street led to

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<v Speaker 5>some beautiful homes, and the only remnants of those homes

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<v Speaker 5>there's a white picket fence that is half standing and

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<v Speaker 5>also half charred to the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you have.

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<v Speaker 5>These beautiful chimneys and fireplaces that once stood inside these

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<v Speaker 2>The other issue I think is, I mean, outside of

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, you're talking about people whose place of

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<v Speaker 3>In many instances, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people who work here who have lost jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have a job.

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<v Speaker 2>They are going to be people who have lost their

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, and so that is very impactful to the workers,

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<v Speaker 5>to the owners of the business, to the owners of

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<v Speaker 5>the properties. And it also attacks the character of a community.

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<v Speaker 5>When you think about a small hardware store, how long

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<v Speaker 5>have people been shopping there? How many generations have stories

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<v Speaker 5>from when they needed something and got some help at

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<v Speaker 5>that place. We see it here in Altadena, we see

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<v Speaker 5>the devastation in the palisades. The character of these communities

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<v Speaker 5>have been lost as well, in addition to people's personal

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<v Speaker 3>Michael, we'll check back in with you. Thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, guys. Michael.

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<v Speaker 2>Monks there out there in Altadena, Elmalina and Mariposa Street,

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<v Speaker 2>that intersection right next to one of the fire stations.

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<v Speaker 2>As he was reporting, Amy King made a comment this

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<v Speaker 2>morning that I thought that is also one of those

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<v Speaker 2>conversations for down the road, but Michael kind of touched

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<v Speaker 2>on it right there, which is the loss of the

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<v Speaker 2>character of a neighborhood. And when we were talking yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>with the head of the Palisades Community Council, she was

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<v Speaker 2>discussing what the personality of Pacific Palisades, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>this is obviously it's la and a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're anywhere east of here, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>reading stories about celebrities that have lost their homes or

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<v Speaker 2>because they're the ones who generate the headlines, but just

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<v Speaker 2>the sheer number, I mean, the images of these neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 2>in the Palisades. There's not a house standing, and the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that there are thousands of structures, I mean to

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<v Speaker 2>me that seems like it Ell States is gone. They're

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<v Speaker 2>just neighborhoods like just as decimated and you're losing with

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<v Speaker 2>that what she described yesterday as sort of that Midwest

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<v Speaker 2>small town feel on a bluff overlooking the beautiful Pacific Ocean,

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<v Speaker 2>and Alta Dina has that as well in parts of

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<v Speaker 2>that Pacady and those Some of those homes are built,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, one hundred and twenty years ago, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to take a decade at least to rebuild

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<v Speaker 1>and to get businesses back up and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a long road to hoe, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of done with. And I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>be a negative person, but I'm really done with all

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<v Speaker 1>of the we as Angelino's are strong and we will

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<v Speaker 1>overcome and blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, the freaking smoke is still rising from the

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<v Speaker 1>homes where families.

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<v Speaker 4>Built their lives. Tell us what we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us where people can get food and shelter, and

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<v Speaker 1>where how you're going to get the water situation fixed

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<v Speaker 1>locally and statewide, and where people can go. And tell

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<v Speaker 1>us more about Airbnb giving away free lodgings, and tell

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<v Speaker 1>us which hotels are going to be offering free rooms

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<v Speaker 1>because not everybody has money that spend displaced.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell us that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough of your bad sea grade poetry, like nobody needs

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that crap.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no stomach for that crap right now.

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<v Speaker 3>What I want to know is and this.

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<v Speaker 1>For the love, that is the way we stand here united, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>Marian Joseph.

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<v Speaker 6>United and stand strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Only think she said good in that whole thing was Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is that for?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what people who do not have any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>realization how real people are living right now, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>same crap.

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<v Speaker 4>I almost at a bad word.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Garcetti would say, or all the people who live

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<v Speaker 1>in their ivory west side towers, you know the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that people are so out of touch with humanity. How

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<v Speaker 1>can you be out of touch with somebody who loses

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<v Speaker 1>their home. Don't you have a home, don't you have stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you have a family?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, how can you be that out of touch?

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<v Speaker 4>Right now? I just don't get it completely.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I pulled that cut, was because I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to make fun of it as just so tone deaf

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<v Speaker 2>for what needs to be what we need to see

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<v Speaker 2>and hear action from them right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Action. All right, it's gonna be a good day.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it gonna be a good day?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's gonna be a better day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's gonna Well, I hope. So, yes, the wind

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<v Speaker 1>is I'll be happy when the wind event.

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<v Speaker 3>Is over, Yes, and that is coming soon.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk more about what's going on fire wise,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera throughout the day Today.

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<v Speaker 4>John cobe elt.

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<v Speaker 1>In overnight twelve midnight to three am. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get a chance to listen because yeah, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't that sound kind of nice like going to sleep?

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<v Speaker 1>John Coe belts on the radio. No, no, sounds soothing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what John after dark sounds like. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what John after sunset looks like. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>well after I told you I think on Monday or

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday about the BBC shipping news and how that is

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<v Speaker 1>a big draw for people, people who have no interest

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<v Speaker 1>in shipping directions or traffic or wind or any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of forecast. But yet the guy who does the BBC

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<v Speaker 1>shipping news for the BBC obviously has such a soothing

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<v Speaker 1>voice that people subscribe to this and go to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>to the shipping news on the routine. What a nice

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<v Speaker 1>compliment for him, isn't it. Yeah, maybe you could do

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of shipping news thing. I wouldn't know the

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know the first thing. Well, just try to

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<v Speaker 1>make it up, wing it and use a British accent.

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<v Speaker 3>There is one giant shipload of oil being shipped through

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<v Speaker 3>the Suez Canal.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's pretty good. That's pretty good. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>little sleepy. Well, that's great. So one of the estimators,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what would you would say estimations

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<v Speaker 1>an estimation made by an estimator about what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, ballpark we're talking when it comes to damage

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<v Speaker 1>from the fires that have broken out in the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days. Between fifty two and fifty seven billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in damage is what they're and that's this is

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<v Speaker 1>the first forty eight hours after this thing broke out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first number that we've gotten to put that

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<v Speaker 1>in context. That obviously would be the worst in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of damage and property damage. The worst disaster in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of California, the nineteen ninety four Northridge earthquake, by comparison,

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<v Speaker 1>was somewhere about thirty billion dollars in property damage. Thirty billion,

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<v Speaker 1>and this we're talking about fifty to fifty seven billion.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the most expensive real estate in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not even what makes this that expensive. It's

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<v Speaker 2>that it's so widespread, and it's not just one two

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<v Speaker 2>million dollar house or a one point four million dollar

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<v Speaker 2>house in Altadena. This is thousands of them. Chief meteorologists

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<v Speaker 2>for ACU Weathers said it's already one of the worst

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<v Speaker 2>wildfires in history, and if a large number of additional

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<v Speaker 2>structures are burned in the coming days, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>the worst wildfire in modern history based on not just

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<v Speaker 2>the number of structures burned, but also economic loss.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked yesterday. CalFire keeps a list.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a depressing list of the top twenty wildfires

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<v Speaker 2>based on different in the state of California, based on

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<v Speaker 2>different metrics. One of them is the size, the top

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<v Speaker 2>twenty in size, the top twenty in damage, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the top twenty in terms of loss of property and

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<v Speaker 2>the campfire. The one that burned through Paradise burned about

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen thousand structures, I think is what they said, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Killed eighty five people.

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<v Speaker 2>This one could surpass that, if not in the deaths,

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<v Speaker 2>then almost certainly in the number of people I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>in the number of properties that are lost and.

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<v Speaker 3>The death toll.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to mention as well because Sheriff Robert Luna

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<v Speaker 2>said something at this news conference, which was it was

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<v Speaker 2>rare and it was important, especially in a situation like this.

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<v Speaker 2>The death toll has been reported at five in the

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<v Speaker 2>Eton fire, the one in Altade in Nepasadena. Yesterday, it

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<v Speaker 2>was two. Today, the numbers overnight in this morning were five.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he talked about it, he said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to give you a death toll for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one, we're not quite sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have our trained eyes on whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know if they're finding bodies or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said, we need to make sure we get

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<v Speaker 2>this right, because this is not there's no rush right.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't like you've said many times about the acreage

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<v Speaker 2>of things like this, the acreage doesn't matter. If it's seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>that teny, twelve thousand, that doesn't matter. What matters is

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<v Speaker 2>people's lives and property. And at this point the exact

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<v Speaker 2>death toll, we know people have died. We know that

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<v Speaker 2>that makes it a deadly fire, and that's what's important.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said in.

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<v Speaker 2>Response to one of these questions in this news conference

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<v Speaker 2>today I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make sure before

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<v Speaker 2>we start getting into that story, you believe that death

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<v Speaker 2>toll is not accurate and do you think it's less

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<v Speaker 2>than that?

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<v Speaker 7>Based on all the information that I've received in the

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<v Speaker 7>last probably eight hours, I want to be more confident

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<v Speaker 7>in the specific information that I'm getting. So what we're

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<v Speaker 7>doing now is going back through everything, because you've got

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<v Speaker 7>to understand the urgency, the chaotic nature of what we're

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<v Speaker 7>dealing with, and we're still in the middle of that.

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<v Speaker 7>So I want to make sure that as we go forward,

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<v Speaker 7>at least for the Sheriff's Department, we're actually having our

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<v Speaker 7>homicide unit involved because they do they only do murder investigations.

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<v Speaker 7>They do death investigations. That I'm going to change the

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<v Speaker 7>system and verify each number because I don't care if

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<v Speaker 7>it's just one. That's somebody's family, that's somebody we love

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<v Speaker 7>and care for, So I want to make sure that's

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<v Speaker 7>solid before we start presenting that information. Unfortunately, based on

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<v Speaker 7>the preliminary information I've seen, at least in the both

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<v Speaker 7>the two large fires that we're dealing with on each

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<v Speaker 7>side of the county, Unfortunately, I think the death toll

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<v Speaker 7>will rise.

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<v Speaker 3>Now listen, And that's the acknowledgment. He knows it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to go up.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter if it's five or four or seven

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<v Speaker 2>right now, because it is going to go up, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wants to make sure he gets.

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<v Speaker 4>It, gets it right, and I'd love to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a refreshing comment from a situation like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not poetry. It's not the BS about well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to stand strong and be the thing in

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<v Speaker 1>this and the light it sounds real person and the

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<v Speaker 1>show our better angels or whatever, None of that, none

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<v Speaker 1>of that BS.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get it right because I know that

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<v Speaker 2>people are going to be affected by whatever numbers come out,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're not just numbers, they're actual.

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<v Speaker 3>People, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next one of the most dramatic scenes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not even going to qualify it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all been dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all been awful and horrific and a freaking nightmare

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<v Speaker 1>since Tuesday morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Last night was the most recent nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say the freshest nightmare when you

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<v Speaker 1>saw the Hollywood Hills go up in flames, and spotting

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<v Speaker 1>almost immediately. The Magic Castle Hotel was in jeopardy at

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<v Speaker 1>one point. Coming up, we are going to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>the man who operates the Magic Castle Hotel about what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>how things stand now, and what's next. The four big

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<v Speaker 1>fires burning right now, it looks like just complete devastation

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<v Speaker 1>at the Palisades. I haven't seen I've seen maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>or two homes standing. Maybe it's just the news coverage

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<v Speaker 1>is focusing on the neighborhoods that have been completely decimated.

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<v Speaker 1>But it looks like I'm looking at an overhead grid

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and it is just it's a war zone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's war I mean sections of even even Sunset, those

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<v Speaker 2>buildings along Sunset that are the larger, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>housed a couple of different businesses or you know, even

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<v Speaker 2>those are the buildings are gutted. They're still standing, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're gutted. And then hundreds of homes throughout those I

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<v Speaker 2>think they call in the Alphabet streets they're in Palisades

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<v Speaker 2>that are just they're just gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Well another oh no.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night I heard Conway talk about it as this

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<v Speaker 1>fire was breaking out in the Hollywood Hills. Darren Ross

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<v Speaker 1>is the owner of service. Free Hospitality operates a Magic

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<v Speaker 1>Castle Hotel, obviously an institution there in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 4>Darren, thanks for your time this morning.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, good morning. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So walk us through your experience last night as this

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<v Speaker 1>thing was unfolding.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Sure. I had got home from work, starting to relax,

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<v Speaker 6>and then got word that this fire broke out. Came

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<v Speaker 6>right back to the hotel and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 6>we were under evacuation orders and we evacuated our hotel,

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<v Speaker 6>and on my way back in, I saw the glow

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<v Speaker 6>of the fire. It seemed pretty close. Looked like it

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<v Speaker 6>was on the other side of Le Brea and the

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<v Speaker 6>Running Cannon area. But yeah, it was a pretty scary

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<v Speaker 6>sight to see on my way in and got to

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<v Speaker 6>work and we safely evacuated our hotel.

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<v Speaker 4>How many people are we talking? How many do you

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<v Speaker 4>have to get out of there?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah we have. We have thirty nine rooms. We were

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<v Speaker 6>about Yeah, we're about ninety five percent occupied last night,

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<v Speaker 6>so a pretty full hotel with families and kids and luggage,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and going on onto Franklin Avenue, which was

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<v Speaker 6>just packed as everybody was evacuating.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like it was gridlock there through Hollywood, but

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<v Speaker 1>it died down relatively quickly. It seems like everyone got

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<v Speaker 1>out right away. Now, your area, much like we saw

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<v Speaker 1>with the Palisades and the Alta Dina area, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Altadena kind of knew they were on the radar of

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<v Speaker 1>the winds coming down from the mountains and the foothills.

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Palisades has that super large wild land area right

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<v Speaker 1>above it. But it must have been a shock when

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<v Speaker 1>when you heard the news that there was a fire

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<v Speaker 1>encroaching on your area.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a shock. We of course, we all hope

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<v Speaker 6>for the best, for more of the of course, the

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<v Speaker 6>hotel to be protected, and an historic club next door

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<v Speaker 6>to be protected. It's funny, there was a there was

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<v Speaker 6>an image going around and I started getting messages from

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<v Speaker 6>all of the country, all over the world, Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a.

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<v Speaker 6>Picture of the club with this glow behind it that

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<v Speaker 6>looked like it was on fire. But the fire was

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<v Speaker 6>actually about a half a mile away. But there was

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<v Speaker 6>a scary site, not the club's first first run in

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<v Speaker 6>with the fire.

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<v Speaker 3>What's I mean, everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>The evacuation orders were lifted a couple of hours ago,

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<v Speaker 2>so today is going to be different. Do you just

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<v Speaker 2>let people back in? How does that work trying to

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<v Speaker 2>reoccupy the hotel?

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, So we've we've been in communication with our guests

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<v Speaker 6>via email and our Facebook page, keeping them, keeping them informeds. Like,

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<v Speaker 6>the evacuation order was actually lifted at about twelve forty

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<v Speaker 6>in the morning, so we notified everybody around that time.

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<v Speaker 6>And right now as we speak, people are trickling back

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<v Speaker 6>into the hotel, enjoying breakfast in our courtyard ard and

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<v Speaker 6>things seem to be back to normal.

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<v Speaker 2>In a situation like that, and the location that you're in,

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<v Speaker 2>is this something that you had even planned for?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there? Do you guys have procedures for this on

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<v Speaker 3>a regular basis?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean absolutely, I mean we have, we have

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<v Speaker 6>evacuation plans, you know, living in an earthquake country for

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<v Speaker 6>you know, for sure, for sure. It just depends on

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<v Speaker 6>the circumstance. So we send everybody to kind of the

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<v Speaker 6>south end of Hollywood Boulevard, which was outside the evacuation

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<v Speaker 6>so we were just on a cusp of the evacuation boundaries.

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<v Speaker 6>So Hollywood Hills, Hollywood Hills High School was an evacuation center.

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<v Speaker 6>The rose of the Hollywood Roads famous Roosevelt Hotel was

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<v Speaker 6>not in the evacuation uh area, so we sent some

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<v Speaker 6>people there. Some people stay there for the night.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys had a fire there Halloween a handful of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>We did, Yeah, Halloween on a twenty eleven. God, I

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<v Speaker 6>was the guy who hired the roofing company to redo

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<v Speaker 6>the roof there. And yeah, a nice showman left the

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<v Speaker 6>torch down a little too long and that's what started

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<v Speaker 6>the fire. And yeah, there were no no injuries, but

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<v Speaker 6>a whole lot of damage. And the firefighters did such

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<v Speaker 6>an incredible job. I think it was one hundred and

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<v Speaker 6>twenty six firefighters showed up to help save that historic building.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Well good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad everybody's safe and I'm glad you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>getting back to business. Darren Ross operates a Magic Castle

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<v Speaker 2>Hotel over the just over the hill, right over there.

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<v Speaker 3>Darren, thanks for your time again today. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much. Have a great morning. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>That's quite the response. It's like, what five strike teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the good news is that's that fires out.

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<v Speaker 3>All those evacuations in that area have been left in.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching or listening to some of the television coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, run and cannyon. I hike there every day.

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<v Speaker 4>Well it's like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, it's a I was telling you off the air,

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<v Speaker 2>like I I've slept for a long time last night

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<v Speaker 2>because I was up all the night before, but I

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<v Speaker 2>also slept in a home with a bed exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's a very human thing to make something

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<v Speaker 1>about you where you want to connect to somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>going through something, or I want to connect to anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I know how tired you are.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, in situations like this, when that human condition

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<v Speaker 1>to connect happens, sometimes it can come off the wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I do it all the time. See I just did it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll stay on top of the fire right here on

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<v Speaker 1>Gary and Channer.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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