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<v Speaker 1>You see, something's going to happen. What what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>What help.

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<v Speaker 2>You know in various ways. But but also you would

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<v Speaker 2>be given this opportunity to witness these epiphanies from the

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<v Speaker 2>ascended masters uh and and uh and the visions right

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<v Speaker 2>that apparently would would be provided to to the initiates

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<v Speaker 2>or the initiated members, right and and apparently this is

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<v Speaker 2>when the expert in the production of holographic images, and

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<v Speaker 2>Antonio Dutois came into this story because he was providing

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<v Speaker 2>the obviously behind the curtain and apparently I believe it

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<v Speaker 2>was the ambros son, the Mambro's son later blew the

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<v Speaker 2>whistle on this, right as he leaves the coult and

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe also the uh, the alleged solar god king,

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<v Speaker 2>the the child Emmanuel.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. It's very interesting because it turns out that.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically as she continues to age, she essentially just and

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<v Speaker 2>ages out of the cult in a way and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like this is absolutely ridiculous, like I am not a

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<v Speaker 2>part of this, right and uh and as she leaves,

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<v Speaker 2>she she kind of like collaborates with her brother and

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<v Speaker 2>and essentially kind of blows the whistle on the inderworkings

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<v Speaker 2>of of this sort of elaborate scheme of providing these

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<v Speaker 2>holographic images that that and are supposed to to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously be this this ascended Master.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's you know, sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of providing you with with a potential vision, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think was also a part of psychedelics that you know

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<v Speaker 2>that we're being provided. So I don't know you consider

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<v Speaker 2>all of that with with sort of like the decorpoate

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<v Speaker 2>what is it decorporealizing right of of of the the

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<v Speaker 2>transit to the Star Serius. Like it's strange because this

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<v Speaker 2>is where you're supposed to join the ascended Masters and

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<v Speaker 2>and you're now basically transcended as into an immortal and

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<v Speaker 2>an awakened soul, right and and yeah, it's very interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>but it seems to be like the Star Serius is

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<v Speaker 2>a massive part of this donning age of Aquarius in

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<v Speaker 2>some strange way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's do you think it's like part belief system,

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<v Speaker 3>part part of this hypnotic program that they're programming with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Antie exactly because the anti cult network was heavily involved

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<v Speaker 2>in this exact moment, and essentially the European anti cult

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<v Speaker 2>network was basically they firmly established themselves off of the

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<v Speaker 2>back of especially the ots, which I found very interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and basically started issuing these these kind of proclamations against

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<v Speaker 2>these new ag esoteric organizations and things of that nature,

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<v Speaker 2>which I found interesting because all of the anti cult

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<v Speaker 2>network seems to directly tie into a lot of m

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<v Speaker 2>k Ultra operatives who who who tend to be like

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<v Speaker 2>Rabbi Maurice Davis being one of them, obviously doctor johny

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<v Speaker 2>On West Uh, clearly doctor Jolly's one of them. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, still it's like we have the dark Sorcerer

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<v Speaker 2>of m k Ultra himself, right, Who's doctor sid Sidney Gottlieb.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's who's kind of employing a lot of these these

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<v Speaker 2>m k Ultra operatives who are now becoming key prominent,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, individuals and advocates of the anti cult network

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<v Speaker 2>who are then going into all these scandals and cases

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<v Speaker 2>and infiltrating and and sort of you know, just sawing

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<v Speaker 2>themselves into the yeah to the criminal trials and various

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<v Speaker 2>things of that nature too. With the False Memory Syndrome

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<v Speaker 2>Foundation and the Right Board of Advisors of the Scientific

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<v Speaker 2>Board of Advisors that are on that as.

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<v Speaker 3>Far as I think, you're pointing out some great things here,

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<v Speaker 3>because once these things fail and they get rolled up,

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<v Speaker 3>then they have to come up with a new program.

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<v Speaker 3>So the anti cult network you were just describing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Scientology sues the largest organization. They're the one that's really

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<v Speaker 3>orchestrating all that stuff, the Cult Awareness Network. They sue

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<v Speaker 3>them out of existence Serra nineteen ninety four, right around

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<v Speaker 3>the same times, and then they get all their assets.

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<v Speaker 3>So then the scary thought is real quick if when

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<v Speaker 3>you start calling the cold awareness that we're to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of cult, you start talking to Scientology and no

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<v Speaker 3>one knew about it for years.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, there's so many different parallels in my mind as

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<v Speaker 2>well to Scientology and in many ways to the Ota

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<v Speaker 2>doctrine as well, and the way they kind of function.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's just like that is what struck me. Clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>They were much more of of, you know, a secret

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<v Speaker 2>society than even a cult group in my mind, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of how they functioned, and they were sort

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<v Speaker 2>of just like, what is it? The uh Neo Templar

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<v Speaker 2>Renaissance is essentially what they claimed that Joseph de Maambro

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<v Speaker 2>was basically you know, responsible.

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<v Speaker 4>For and always a Joseph Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm just I'm fascinated by all of this

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<v Speaker 2>because this kid, Emmanuel right, who's considered the cosmic child,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh an Avatar right, and and it does like

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<v Speaker 2>their aim was was sex magic.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, just obviously you're you're always it always is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I find it like interesting too.

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<v Speaker 5>You mentioned about the marriages, Like the month before JFK died,

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<v Speaker 5>Jackie goes on Onnassas's yacht, pissed off because her baby

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<v Speaker 5>passed away and he didn't want to come and deal

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<v Speaker 5>with it. And so then all of a sudden, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>twice twice he did this.

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<v Speaker 4>To her twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 5>Her sister was dating on Nassas and she talks her

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<v Speaker 5>into getting on this yacht, which he then tells her,

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<v Speaker 5>you better get off that yacht if you have to swim.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm curious, like if they did this drugging to

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<v Speaker 5>her and made her believe a that her husband's going

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<v Speaker 5>to die, which hello, and b that you know she

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<v Speaker 5>actually was truly in love with Onassis because he mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>on the yacht to his help, which is documented that

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<v Speaker 5>that will be my next wife.

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<v Speaker 1>That is crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>I did not know that Gabor a nice diamond bracelet

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<v Speaker 5>on her exit out and her sister that was the

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<v Speaker 5>girl got like some little trinket.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>Someone put in the comments that Emmanuel means God with

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<v Speaker 6>us in Biblical God.

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<v Speaker 7>Is God is with us. I honestly.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought the based on like what ancient Aliens said,

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<v Speaker 6>that the little girl Emmanuel was possessed by an alien

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<v Speaker 6>or something like that. Of course they went with that direction,

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<v Speaker 6>but it sounds like before we started recording that you

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<v Speaker 6>fad program to kill. I know JJ has to, and

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<v Speaker 6>I think people have a hard time thinking that secret

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<v Speaker 6>societies or cult ritualism or government programs are independent of

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<v Speaker 6>each other and that they somehow can't be connected because

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<v Speaker 6>people just like to put things in boxes like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>this is a ritual or oh this is a secret society.

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<v Speaker 6>It can't be tied to the government in some way.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's like, that's the biggest mistake you can make,

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<v Speaker 6>is making those two things separate and independent of each other,

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<v Speaker 6>because most of the time they run in tandem or

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<v Speaker 6>they are directly involved with each other. So to me,

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<v Speaker 6>when I saw this story about the solar Temple. It

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<v Speaker 6>was like, what three letter agencies connected with forming this group?

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<v Speaker 6>Much like the Manson family and more notable cults throughout time,

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<v Speaker 6>they're always related to something.

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<v Speaker 1>I would argue that three letter agency may in factor

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<v Speaker 1>be the s OC.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, then, so there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes sense to me. But I mean you're a

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<v Speaker 3>spot on there, Julia, for sure. Oh yeah, everything that

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<v Speaker 3>you just said I entirely agree with.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something that I just at a certain point when

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<v Speaker 2>you it's just I do not believe in coincidence any longer, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just been driven out of me. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way in hell at this point at that again,

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<v Speaker 2>at this level of uh and of research right where

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<v Speaker 2>it just it's it becomes undeniable where you have like

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<v Speaker 2>these these crazy ass political mafia Gladio ties to to Gurre.

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<v Speaker 1>And and Demembro, where you had.

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<v Speaker 2>Like basically there was even a psychiatrist who who made

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<v Speaker 2>this this support of this claim that the the affair

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<v Speaker 2>had a political mafia tie, citing possible links between Jorre

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<v Speaker 2>and members of Gladio, which clearly that comes in the

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<v Speaker 2>form of Julian Rigez in many ways, which is very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting story that that specifically ties in, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Gladio operation. But what's what's interesting here is just

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<v Speaker 2>that you have basically this trail which seems to implicate

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<v Speaker 2>that Demambrol was linked to Jean Luis Farge, a Tuln

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<v Speaker 2>crime boss who was murdered in ninety three apparently. And

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<v Speaker 2>so there was the ots was basically implicated in these

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<v Speaker 2>French political scandals, and there were all these connections with

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<v Speaker 2>the French politicians like Charles Pascal and this assassination of

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<v Speaker 2>Jan Piet I believe, and and so it's it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because it seems like there's clearly, if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the Alex Constantine archive.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's a great resource.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, every time I stumble upon some connection

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<v Speaker 2>that he's he's provided like the at least a resource

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<v Speaker 2>as far as an investigative accountant.

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<v Speaker 1>He tends to take.

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<v Speaker 2>A direction that appeals directly to, you know, my the

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<v Speaker 2>way that I kind of view the world in general.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as just uh, you know, the international

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<v Speaker 2>covert intelligence apparatus.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems to be very well entrenched. But but he

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<v Speaker 1>basically we did a great job when I ran Contra

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<v Speaker 1>and O. J. Simpson stuff too there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell yeah, yep, yeah, it gets it gets nuts

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, they basically were claiming that through destroying

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<v Speaker 2>the chalets where the deaths had all taken place, basically

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<v Speaker 2>the evidence had been burned and and obviously that was

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<v Speaker 2>a key component of what they were hoping to attempt

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<v Speaker 2>to to cover up was was clearly they but so

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<v Speaker 2>found dead and in the Vercors though Wash was apparently

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<v Speaker 2>an agent of the intelligence service that was close to Pascal.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh so there there.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a presentation of of these sources of uh that

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<v Speaker 2>apparently an agent of the Central Directorate of the Order

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<v Speaker 2>Police was a mole who had infiltrated the Order and

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<v Speaker 2>that so this this is a it's very interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>apparently you have a combination here of international arms smuggling,

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<v Speaker 2>right the presence of BCCI obviously, which which is just

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<v Speaker 2>completely a CIA cut out, and then you have these

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian journalists that were followers of the mambro and Jeor

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<v Speaker 2>Ray who were also killed allegedly to bury public disclosures

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<v Speaker 2>of this gun running and money laundering at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>So it seems like very much like Jonestown, where they're

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of like Okay, Operation green Light the cover

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<v Speaker 2>up here basically, right, and and essentially we have to

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<v Speaker 2>cover our tracks here and if we never let a

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<v Speaker 2>good crisis go to waste. And obviously we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take victims of the Montreal experiments, maybe even undocumented children

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<v Speaker 2>of some kind that right, that you've been conducting experiments on.

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<v Speaker 2>And then who knows why, oh, doctor Leslie Moutu just

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<v Speaker 2>can't count because the Guyanese are retarded. But in reality, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's the fact that they're just.

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<v Speaker 3>Adding bodies to the pile because they're trying to cut

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<v Speaker 3>tie off all these loose ends for these covert operations

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<v Speaker 3>that are being conducted.

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<v Speaker 2>All over the world. That's what bo Gritz said happened

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<v Speaker 2>at Jonestown. He said, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what green bereys told me. Who flew in

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<v Speaker 2>on the site were told to fire on site from

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<v Speaker 2>the helicopter you had green berets. Specifically, there was one

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<v Speaker 2>individual green Beray, who claimed that he was flown into

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<v Speaker 2>the remote location in the Jungles of Guyana there to

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<v Speaker 2>the People's agricultural project and he basically was told that

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<v Speaker 2>and they so, he said, as they flew in in

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<v Speaker 2>the helicopter, he witnesses survivor running up as the helicopter's landing,

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<v Speaker 2>calling for help, and they fired upon them before the

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter even landed. That was the alleged story that was

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<v Speaker 2>told the Bo Gritz and Bo Grits. He said that

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<v Speaker 2>he was told that exactly what I just said happened,

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<v Speaker 2>that they potentially had taken MK Ultra victims from doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Ewan Cameron's Montreal experiments in Canada and just dropped the

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<v Speaker 2>bodies in the People's temple as far as as far

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<v Speaker 2>as just kind of like linked them directly to you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why all the body bags were already prepared and ready,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Joint chiefs of Staff where it's just like man,

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<v Speaker 2>all of this was and the site itself had been

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<v Speaker 2>secured by the CIA and and Golan for training up

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<v Speaker 2>and Golan rebels and shit prior to this, and in

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<v Speaker 2>operation was it Project Shalom or Operations Shalom, which which

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<v Speaker 2>ties in Colston Westbrook, who's a Project Phoenix operative. And

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is the guy who set up the pipeline

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<v Speaker 2>US as a who comes back he gets a call. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, man, uh you we're good with your project Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 2>uh covert operations to come back here with those skills

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<v Speaker 2>that you've acquired, and and let's place you at U. C.

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<v Speaker 1>Berkeley as a as a fake professor to set up.

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<v Speaker 3>A pipeline too to an institution in California that that

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<v Speaker 3>happens to house.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, well, first of all, it was outed by Congressman

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<v Speaker 2>Leo Ryan as being a key uh facility for m

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<v Speaker 2>k Ultra experiments at the time. They were they were

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<v Speaker 2>basically utilizing the California prison complex and uh they had

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<v Speaker 2>prison guards who were on the payroll, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>they were running these m k Ultra experiments and then

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<v Speaker 2>releasing prisoners and claiming they escaped, and they would, like you,

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, they would turn up in Dallas,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way across the country committing a mass shooting

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<v Speaker 2>and I get a yeah, get a very light sentence,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he brought back to that specific institution.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But still it's insane that Colston Westbrook set up that

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<v Speaker 2>pipeline that Patty Hurst wound up in visiting Donald sink

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<v Speaker 2>you to freeze before she was ever kidnapped, right at

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<v Speaker 2>that specific facility where MK Ultra experiments were being conducted.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the Manson girls who were in that situation

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So you look at the what was it,

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<v Speaker 2>the hydra, the cobra of the s LA, the symbol

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<v Speaker 2>of the Symbionese Liberation Army.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's just like, well, you're describing.

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<v Speaker 3>All these innate plans and details and stuff right when

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<v Speaker 3>you do a great job at also but I think

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<v Speaker 3>the one thing they consider was you're describing how quickly

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<v Speaker 3>these folks operate. Is when they go into these operations,

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<v Speaker 3>they have contingency plans, they have plans to roll the

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<v Speaker 3>things up, and they have plans to move forward. So

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<v Speaker 3>in the event these things do happen, these things are

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<v Speaker 3>already in place. Yeah, they just got to hit the switch, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, you know, I think that's one thing

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen over the years is folks trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they have you're not having you know, you're explained that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to you know, hammer him.

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<v Speaker 3>The point you're making there is these things are well developed,

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<v Speaker 3>well established, and when when things ship does with the fan,

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<v Speaker 3>they have a number of different contingency plans in which

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<v Speaker 3>the deal with things. So which is how you're describing

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<v Speaker 3>out quickly these things roll up and operate continuously.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh so you're saying like this is the French jonestown

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<v Speaker 6>pretty much?

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<v Speaker 1>She feels like it, But of course I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>any different, right, yeah, I mean yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The geographical designation of the group itself was obviously primarily France, Switzerland,

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<v Speaker 2>and then what French Quebec Canada, right and.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that to me French Guyana right, yeah, it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and right on the border by the way, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>which is very interesting because of the covert operations that

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<v Speaker 3>they would launch from that area.

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<v Speaker 1>It's clearly it was a black site.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, what you're dealing with a Belgian Belgian mercenary, right,

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<v Speaker 3>We're dealing with the French Belgian mercenary fella.

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly. And that's what network.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, like an Operation forty or a few experierum kind

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<v Speaker 3>of network or the part of the military assistance command, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that of Bill Colby, right, because Bill Golby is involved

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<v Speaker 3>in all the business relative.

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<v Speaker 1>To P two as well, right exactly. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>ship what am I talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Colby setup Gladio and during Sun testified against Orenthal

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<v Speaker 3>J Simpson just saying.

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<v Speaker 2>During Operation Condor, I just realized that they're just they're

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<v Speaker 2>just naming this based on the geographical representation of the

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<v Speaker 2>of this this bird, right, Phoenix, Uh, Condor. You have

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<v Speaker 2>these various uh you know, manifestations of the it's the.

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<v Speaker 1>Same project, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I realized that what was happening with Condor

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<v Speaker 2>is that they had this joint intelligence operation that they

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<v Speaker 2>were all conducting. I forget the location where they all

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<v Speaker 2>had the meeting, uh to to effectively, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>they established the agenda in a very you know, uh

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<v Speaker 2>strategic and uh you know, they had a hierarchy of

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<v Speaker 2>priorities that they were that they were implementing here. And

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe that's obviously why you have a Colonia

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<v Speaker 2>Dignidad and right being utilized in the remote jungles of Chile, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and and they're just like, what are they doing there?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what that's by the way, that's how I

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<v Speaker 2>discovered the OTS was through the Colonia Dignidad story, which

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<v Speaker 2>I was introduced to from Jonestown. And that's what had

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<v Speaker 2>happened is that Adam from Deborah gets red pilled, which

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<v Speaker 2>I miss him. I was I wish they were still

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<v Speaker 2>doing stuff, man, because I love Adam.

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<v Speaker 1>He was always good to me. Good. Yeah, he's so relaxed.

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<v Speaker 6>The way you present stuff is like, all right, I

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<v Speaker 6>feel like I'm just talking to like one of my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>About you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>He he was our very first producer for Already Dead

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<v Speaker 2>when Jose and I started, because I had gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>know Adam just from he invited me on when they

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<v Speaker 2>were still doing I think I was actually the very

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<v Speaker 2>last episode they ever did, which I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Man, that makes me sad, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time they said as much while

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<v Speaker 2>while they introduced me and stuff. But I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>just living that life, you know, as far as his

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<v Speaker 2>core principles, he's actually exercising them as a homesteader.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's beautiful to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he got his purple belt in jiu jitsu

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<v Speaker 2>by the time he was about to leave the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, man, I gotta leave because my jiu

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<v Speaker 2>jitsu class. And I think it just was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>he was, you know, opting out at that point.

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<v Speaker 3>And I get it at a certain level, but I

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<v Speaker 3>live in a man down by the river. So sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you just got to do these things in life, exactly, buddy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I very much admire it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, anyway, to say the least that he's the

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<v Speaker 2>one who introduced me to Colonia Dignidad because he had

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<v Speaker 2>brought me on. We just were talking about all different

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<v Speaker 2>you know, things that we've covered, and and jonestown of

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<v Speaker 2>course came up and and then I was introduced to

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<v Speaker 2>Colonia Dignidad. I had no idea that that that existed.

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<v Speaker 2>And and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Schaeffer, the pedophile s S officer who.

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<v Speaker 2>Fled, who fled, and and and uh with all these children,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and while and then he uh he uh

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<v Speaker 2>he resurfaces in Chile and and he he he creates

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<v Speaker 2>this this Nazi safe haven and in the Chile and jungle.

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<v Speaker 2>And and that, by the way, still exists this day.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget the name of it now, but it's been renamed.

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<v Speaker 2>But it basically was a Nazi enclave in in Chile

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<v Speaker 2>during the Pinochet and right during these massive uh it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were sending political prisoners to Colonia Dignidad to

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<v Speaker 2>get tortured and ship and they had underground bunkers. They

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<v Speaker 2>had a whole weapons uh arsenal that they were manufacturing weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>It had an air strip where apparently what's his name,

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Mangela stayed in Colonia Dignidad for a time. They

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<v Speaker 2>said he would come and visit and that this was

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<v Speaker 2>a way for them to essentially uh you know, uh

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<v Speaker 2>of a skirt any sort of and circumvent any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of real like uh, you know, customs or anything of

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<v Speaker 2>that nature. Right, this is a this is a cleandestine operation,

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<v Speaker 2>so we need you know, covert flights.

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<v Speaker 3>And I learned about it through a spook, So isn't

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<v Speaker 3>that weird? Oh my god, Peter lavend I learned about.

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<v Speaker 5>Bringing up barrel and who all went and visited Bariloch

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<v Speaker 5>each president except for few, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, and you know, there's a there was a file

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<v Speaker 2>they found in Paul Schaeffer's archives that was a JFK

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<v Speaker 2>file and had bullets that matched the gun allegedly, And

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<v Speaker 2>it's just so crazy that that. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a connection there to the Lettlea assassination Eva in

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<v Speaker 2>d C, who is a diplomat that was just killed

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<v Speaker 2>in the car bomb, and and that was apparently.

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<v Speaker 3>Bomb I took I took I took Nick by that

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<v Speaker 3>site on our d C tour. When I took Nick

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<v Speaker 3>on a d C too, I took him out of

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<v Speaker 3>that's right, that's right by. That's right by the Society

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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati headquarters. It's literally right there.

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<v Speaker 7>It's connected to the Solar Tip.

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<v Speaker 3>The bombing, Yeah, that bombing is connected to the It's

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<v Speaker 3>connected to the Colonia Dignidad, right, which, yeah, the Nazi

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<v Speaker 3>in Chile.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm sorry I jumped around.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you recall when Peter Lavenda went down there and

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<v Speaker 3>invaded that place and created an international incident.

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<v Speaker 1>Invaded He definitely invaded that place, right, He was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just a young dude.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just going places and looking at things. He

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<v Speaker 3>worked for the software company at the time. It was

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<v Speaker 3>also employed his buddy John Podesta. Isn't it weird that

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<v Speaker 3>both Thelamites, decades later, we're doing all this alien stuff

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<v Speaker 3>together when they started out together doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>My God, Austin, something just really quick. I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>how much time we're going to go on for, but

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<v Speaker 6>I just wanted to ask Austin about the Third Incident

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<v Speaker 6>really quick before we wrap, Like the Solar Temple because

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<v Speaker 6>in my opinion, it's the weirdest one out of all three.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's the weirdest one.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I think that, you know, it's it definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's super interesting as far as each each individual

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<v Speaker 2>uh you know, uh mass death that occurred, it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was definitely you know, just to me, each and

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<v Speaker 2>every one of them seemed to to provide another window

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<v Speaker 2>into the real actual motivation you know that was playing

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<v Speaker 2>out here, in which I believe was just that. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that this organization itself was entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of overexposed.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the criminal investigations that being conducted into

426
00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Duret and Demembro himself for for effectively, you know, he

427
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:09.799
<v Speaker 2>he had uh you had members of the cult who

428
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:16.319
<v Speaker 2>were leaving and they were apparently, you know, filing lawsuits

429
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<v Speaker 2>against Demambro for apparently you know, gaining control of major

430
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:23.599
<v Speaker 2>portions of their private property and things of that nature,

431
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>as in sort of this this way of convincing them,

432
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, to hand over their assets in a strange way.

433
00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:35.960
<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, it's it's definitely, Uh, I'll get into

434
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:40.119
<v Speaker 2>this this third instant incident because like what what you

435
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:43.920
<v Speaker 2>have to realize too, is that like the way these

436
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:49.160
<v Speaker 2>bodies were found in the original uh in Cherrie, Switzerland. Right,

437
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:52.640
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy because this is a room that had been

438
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:57.119
<v Speaker 2>converted right Sophie stopped it's my dog, I'm sorry, into

439
00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:04.079
<v Speaker 2>uh into a this conference center, right that was chill

440
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:08.880
<v Speaker 2>out anyway, that was that was basically converted into like

441
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:12.279
<v Speaker 2>again this this uh secret ritual chamber in a way.

442
00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:14.279
<v Speaker 1>But they found all these.

443
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Handbags, suitcases, clothes, you know, the switch Swiss, French and

444
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Canadian passports. So obviously for the organization, I think again

445
00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:24.599
<v Speaker 2>it kind of like plays out that that they were

446
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 2>obviously you know, facilitating a lot of these uh you know,

447
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:30.480
<v Speaker 2>weapons sales and things of that nature.

448
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:31.279
<v Speaker 1>And and and.

449
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:35.119
<v Speaker 2>That definitely seems to have provided many of these in

450
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:38.279
<v Speaker 2>the financial assets of the organization itself and how they

451
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:41.119
<v Speaker 2>were kind of utilizing uh, the enterprise.

452
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>But there were all these traces.

453
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Of blood on the floor and and uh and the

454
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:50.759
<v Speaker 2>false store right that that basically is what led them

455
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:52.920
<v Speaker 2>to as far as the traces of blood led them

456
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.079
<v Speaker 2>to the false dore uh and in the wall right

457
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:58.039
<v Speaker 2>to the other room, which is this is what I

458
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>thought was worth noting. It's draped with crimson satin wall

459
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 2>coverings as you mentioned before, right as far as just

460
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:09.160
<v Speaker 2>the way the actual room looked, and it was adorned

461
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:13.279
<v Speaker 2>with this messiah like painting of Luke Gerrae. And this

462
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>is where they had found the eighteen bodies that were

463
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 2>arranged in a sunlike circle, right, and.

464
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Their heads were pointing outwards. Inside the circle was a

465
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 3>golden chalice on an altar, and you had these very

466
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 3>tall mirrors that filled the room.

467
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>And so you had a.

468
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Small temple, a smaller temple where like three bodies or

469
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:42.119
<v Speaker 3>more we're lying as well. And this twenty third corpse

470
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>was found in a separate room at the foot of

471
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 3>a table.

472
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:45.839
<v Speaker 1>But some of the.

473
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>Bodies had plastic bags over their heads and some were

474
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>even handcuffed behind their backs. Twenty had traces of bullet wounds,

475
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and investigators even said that some cultists had been injected

476
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 2>with powerful drugs before their deaths, so that at least

477
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:05.079
<v Speaker 2>corroborates what I had mentioned earlier about the pharmaceutical you know,

478
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.440
<v Speaker 2>batches that had just recently been provided leading up to this,

479
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:14.160
<v Speaker 2>which seemed to be far more you know it the

480
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:17.359
<v Speaker 2>number of the batches themselves, right, that as far as

481
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>how much they were actually receiving, seemed to implicate that

482
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 2>they had something planned for, right, this sort of mass

483
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>transit exodus in a way. So at the very least

484
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>you have membership, at least members of the leadership that

485
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.039
<v Speaker 2>were very much you know, read in on this. But

486
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 2>then you have one hundred miles south of Shecheri right after,

487
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>by the way, you have all these you know, white, black, red,

488
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:47.359
<v Speaker 2>and golden ceremonial robes that were discovered and some of

489
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the bodies at the farm, right, and police discovered a sword, right,

490
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>three rifles, a box of ammunition, empty champagne bottles littered

491
00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the scene, and a freezer was filled with vegetables growing

492
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.240
<v Speaker 2>by sect members. And it was interesting because the bullet

493
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>wounds on the bodies they didn't correspond with any of

494
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Speaker 2>the weapons found at the farm, which obviously suggests that

495
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>someone performed executions and then fled the scene, which was

496
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.640
<v Speaker 2>another thing that investigators were pointing out that was something

497
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 2>worth the you know, being aware of, obviously, because that

498
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 2>definitely does imply that that clearly these individuals were under

499
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 2>the you know, impression that they were they were just

500
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think performing a ritual having a party

501
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>and then effectively were mass murdered and one hundred miles

502
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>south of Sherry, Switzerland.

503
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, you have fires break out. I think that's a

504
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:44.160
<v Speaker 3>great point you make there by May real quick y Alston.

505
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 3>That's a great point you make where some I think

506
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 3>some of these folks they think they're doing a ritual

507
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:49.839
<v Speaker 3>and then you know, I think it goes wrong with them,

508
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.079
<v Speaker 3>just like when they say, like with all these false

509
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:54.799
<v Speaker 3>flags and they're doing an exercise and suddenly it goes live,

510
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:55.319
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

511
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of the same kind of concept. I think

512
00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:58.319
<v Speaker 1>within this ritual sack.

513
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't think all these people are signing up for

514
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 3>ritual sacrifices, you know what I mean. No, they're being dupe.

515
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 3>They're being duped is what I'm getting. And they're being

516
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 3>told it's some sort of ritual they're participating in. Then whoops,

517
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:08.480
<v Speaker 3>the days we.

518
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:10.839
<v Speaker 5>Right.

519
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 9>No, Definitely that brings up a good question, a question

520
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:17.279
<v Speaker 9>that I had earlier kind of with the first one.

521
00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 9>I'm not trying to like take away from the this

522
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 9>third one, but uh, you know.

523
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I promise you I'll talk about it, Julia, Sorry, Nick,

524
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

525
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:32.240
<v Speaker 9>Just even like looking at how you think blackmail and

526
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:36.799
<v Speaker 9>rich people could there really have been nothing, no outcome

527
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 9>from the sex magic except for blackmail.

528
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is, like I think that's part of it, right,

529
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.240
<v Speaker 3>it's it's the whole. I call it the whole hog effective.

530
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 3>They also just called the whole.

531
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 1>So there.

532
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:48.720
<v Speaker 3>I just don't want folks to get you know, that's

533
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 3>a great point because folks position they're doing all of

534
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 3>the things, right, I.

535
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.160
<v Speaker 8>Think you gotta have sex to make this work. They'll

536
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:56.519
<v Speaker 8>do it.

537
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 4>They had to charge, Yeah, whatever, for sure, I think

538
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:04.359
<v Speaker 4>it's a great year.

539
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:07.119
<v Speaker 1>That's definitely part of it. Yeah, now go back.

540
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I just when you when you get into the third

541
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>event in ninety seven, right, it's I think it was

542
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 2>March of ninety seven is when it actually occurred.

543
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this is where you.

544
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Have you know, they burned down the house with them inside,

545
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:30.359
<v Speaker 2>which clearly is another example of just entirely destroying evidence.

546
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I think was a major component of what they were

547
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>attempting to achieve here. And it goes without saying, honestly,

548
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 2>as far as the incendiary devices that were all strategically placed,

549
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>and and and as the investigators found who were honest

550
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning of the the uh, you know, original

551
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 2>just kind of responding to the scene. They they they

552
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>one discovered undetonated you know, incendiary devices that were intended

553
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:00.119
<v Speaker 2>to entirely destroy the rest of the evidence, and that

554
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>would have, I think, you know, effectively covered up a

555
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of the questions that we we that the public

556
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 2>had following the event, you know, and and so but yeah,

557
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:12.039
<v Speaker 2>they were.

558
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Man ask question.

559
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 3>And I do apologize Julia, because I think you were

560
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 3>you were correct. What was the date on this sort

561
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 3>of the March.

562
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Laws in March March twenty second, nineteen ninety seven, was

563
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>this was this was the same date as the Heaven's Gate.

564
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 1>My god, that's what I thought.

565
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 6>There was something with the solar temper escape being on

566
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 6>the same fucking yeah, you you.

567
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Are recommend I was conflated earlier with nineteen ninety four

568
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.839
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. Maybe I got lost in an ornithology. Simpson

569
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 3>on the warm.

570
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Holder really good because it was the September ninety four

571
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>when the more and highest Cherry Surry and Alvant fires

572
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.559
<v Speaker 2>right broke out, and and.

573
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.519
<v Speaker 3>We're talking the end of these activities, and that they

574
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 3>that is the precise same date as Heaven's Gate.

575
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 1>So these maybe these folks. Maybe they got it right.

576
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:05.440
<v Speaker 7>On Haley's comment, well, that's why I said, there's maybe.

577
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 3>We're the ones who are wrong, Julia. They're all having

578
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 3>a good time right now and Haley.

579
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, maybe.

580
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:15.000
<v Speaker 7>Send it up my ass.

581
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.920
<v Speaker 6>I mean, there's no coincidence though that those two things

582
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 6>happened and they had such SI sure.

583
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 7>But anyways, go ahead.

584
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Can I make one point on all that similarities and

585
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 3>all these other things? And I don't and I don't

586
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.000
<v Speaker 3>want to cutch you off there, Austin, but I do

587
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:32.960
<v Speaker 3>want to whenever you're done, I would like to bring

588
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 3>it all back my comments on the society and Operation

589
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.599
<v Speaker 3>pack On and how it connects to all this stuff.

590
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 3>I would like to because it doesn't sound like it

591
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:42.279
<v Speaker 3>should right with all the French stuff, right, but like

592
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 3>it literally does.

593
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>It literally does, dude.

594
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm very interested now because as much as I'm aware

595
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:53.119
<v Speaker 2>of pat Con just essentially being the right wing version

596
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 2>of Cointel pro, you know, it's it's it's obviously you know.

597
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>And also I think it's very interesting that the timing

598
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:04.279
<v Speaker 2>of it all right, the total information awareness objectives that

599
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.400
<v Speaker 2>were playing out the continuity of government that's leading into

600
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>the Patriot Act. I forget the precursor to the Patriot

601
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Act that passed just after the Oka CE bombing, but

602
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>that was all pat con that that staged the president

603
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 2>setting operations that that clearly led to that dystopian framework

604
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>being implemented and called for. Right, problem reaction solution is

605
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 2>the name of the game, you know, and just too often,

606
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 2>right I consistently we're describing elements of the same the

607
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.159
<v Speaker 2>same beast here. You know when I say these are

608
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 2>connected to did you have any more on that? On the

609
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.480
<v Speaker 2>third instinct? Because I thought, I just because I didn't

610
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:44.880
<v Speaker 2>want to cut you because I want to hear more

611
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>about it. I just don't want to cut you off.

612
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Because Julia was definitely correct there that this is literally.

613
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 3>The same days as the Heaven's Gate situations popping off

614
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:55.000
<v Speaker 3>in San Diego. That's fast Adam home at a home

615
00:34:55.039 --> 00:35:00.000
<v Speaker 3>connected to the nine to eleven, uh folks an eleven terrorists.

616
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Jesus bad? I uh, you know what's hilarious.

617
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 3>I actually they were like, I gotta get on some

618
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.159
<v Speaker 3>of this alien action here, you know, before I A.

619
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:13.559
<v Speaker 1>I have a note card that I pulled up.

620
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, you can't read it, but it says ots notes,

621
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:17.679
<v Speaker 2>and it's just a little bit.

622
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 1>It's like four notes that I had written down.

623
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.119
<v Speaker 3>That's that's a lot of that's a lot of words

624
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 3>there though, that's some good notes.

625
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just one little note. If you looked at my space,

626
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I look like a psychopath. I got zero notes. So well,

627
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I will say that I just have to because I will.

628
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 2>I just too too many details running around in my

629
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:43.079
<v Speaker 2>mind that I I and I'm too skitz o brained

630
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 2>where I just uh obviously we we uh we call

631
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.719
<v Speaker 2>the homies on already dead right the audience skits O bros.

632
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 1>We're basically the Skitzo Bros. But so that is very accurate.

633
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.039
<v Speaker 3>I will say, as far as the way my mind works,

634
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Speaker 3>I can't help myself.

635
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.800
<v Speaker 1>It has to. I think it's it's the.

636
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Right the Charlie meme, you know, the Pepe Sylvia, you

637
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:05.840
<v Speaker 3>know what I.

638
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<v Speaker 1>Mean, the arms and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly from It's always sunny and that that is effectively

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<v Speaker 2>I think how your mind has to function in a

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<v Speaker 2>way in order to kind of even breach these subjects

642
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<v Speaker 2>and and and in an objective way to where you're

643
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<v Speaker 2>at least pursuing uh some legitimate uh let's say just

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<v Speaker 2>at the very least. I'm always attempting, as I said

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning of this, to reinforce and corroborate as

646
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<v Speaker 2>much evidence as possible, because I don't want to sit

647
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<v Speaker 2>here and and and make allegations if they're if they're

648
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<v Speaker 2>too far reaching. Although I will say there are moments

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm purely being speculative. I try and always be

650
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<v Speaker 2>honest about that, but in terms of you effectively have

651
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<v Speaker 2>to speculate at times because you have to ask these questions, right,

652
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<v Speaker 2>like why on earth you know, is Joseph the bro uh,

653
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<v Speaker 2>you know, traveling across international borders with major amounts of

654
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<v Speaker 2>financial capital which seems to be some FASc money laundering happening, you.

655
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<v Speaker 3>Know, which which clearly was occurring. And like, if you know,

656
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<v Speaker 3>is he wrapping some Vatican Bank interest? What do you

657
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<v Speaker 3>if I made just ask him, what do you think

658
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<v Speaker 3>they're Vatican Bank interts with this guy?

659
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<v Speaker 1>Or was he doing mafia stuff? What's he doing?

660
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<v Speaker 2>I think the fact that he has tied so directly

661
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<v Speaker 2>into and yeah, I do think that that you have

662
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<v Speaker 2>again the unholy Alliance playing out there. You go, Gladio,

663
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<v Speaker 2>like you really do have that playing out here? And

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think that he's representing someone's interest.

665
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<v Speaker 3>Right, you got you got the other fellows doing you know,

666
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<v Speaker 3>like I said, he's got a lot of society cincin

667
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<v Speaker 3>na stuff going on around him. So and then you

668
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<v Speaker 3>got this guy represents some some other interests like the

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<v Speaker 3>MOB or the Vatican, right or you know something.

670
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<v Speaker 2>And you know what is P two, I mean what

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<v Speaker 2>is less circle? Like they are directly affiliated with the Vatican.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that you know, the Vatican Bank finances

673
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<v Speaker 2>these organizations, you know, and that's where they washed a

674
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<v Speaker 2>lot of the money too, right, And I didn't realize

675
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<v Speaker 2>that with what was what's her name?

676
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<v Speaker 1>Oh ship No, No, oh my god, she's a world banker,

677
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:23.519
<v Speaker 1>talks about laundering, washing and stuff, right, right, but uh,

678
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<v Speaker 1>mother Teresa.

679
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<v Speaker 3>Right, oh, affiliated, she's directly affiliated with child sex trafficking

680
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<v Speaker 3>and laundering the profits through the Vatican Bank, which I

681
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:43.920
<v Speaker 3>didn't realize. Yeah, Mother Teresa directly affiliated with George Bush Sr.

682
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<v Speaker 3>And and even had an an orphanage connection to Hillary Clinton.

683
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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't realize this, But that makes a lot

684
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<v Speaker 3>more sense considering the Laura Silsby stuff and and you know,

685
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 3>obviously just the Haitian children scandal. And and what it's

686
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 3>even worse than that. I mean, I found out children

687
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<v Speaker 3>that Hillary Clinton allegedly eats, right, yeah, exactly, yeahrazed.

688
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<v Speaker 6>The ugliness of her inside definitely matches the ugliness of

689
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<v Speaker 6>her outside. My the tree so looks like a fucking

690
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<v Speaker 6>scraggly ass cigarette.

691
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<v Speaker 7>But and there is no way to look like that.

692
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<v Speaker 7>But think about it.

693
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<v Speaker 6>It's like it's like, there's all the crimes that she's

694
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<v Speaker 6>committed against children, it's all over her fucking face. Look

695
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 6>at her, look at it. She looks like a demon

696
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<v Speaker 6>hag in a fucking nuns outfit.

697
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<v Speaker 1>And consider what she represents right now.

698
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<v Speaker 2>That is a perfect example of the inverted moral landscape.

699
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<v Speaker 1>Right like this, No shit, what in the hell you

700
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<v Speaker 1>know that?

701
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<v Speaker 3>This is supposed to be the bright and shining beacon

702
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<v Speaker 3>of right and just like not mine.

703
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<v Speaker 6>No, she looks like a fucking wrinkled asshole. And I

704
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<v Speaker 6>can't believe. It's like the more you look into her,

705
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<v Speaker 6>it's like, of course you know she oh, mother tree,

706
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<v Speaker 6>So mother tree.

707
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:09.119
<v Speaker 7>Fuck you.

708
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<v Speaker 6>I cannot believe it's becoming a conspiracy theorist. You have

709
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<v Speaker 6>to understand, you cannot have any idols, nobody, not music,

710
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:27.840
<v Speaker 6>not movies, not politically nothing, every single person that you think, oh, well,

711
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:28.960
<v Speaker 6>maybe they're a good guy.

712
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:31.400
<v Speaker 7>Oh maybe they are. No, they're not.

713
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<v Speaker 6>They probably eating fuck kids or they fucking do some

714
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:39.360
<v Speaker 6>kind of a like literally, I'm sorry, I just after

715
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<v Speaker 6>reading Program to Kill and and looking into Dave McGowan's work,

716
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.960
<v Speaker 6>it's like you have nothing.

717
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<v Speaker 3>Laurel King, You're not wrong, Julie, that's damn sure. It's

718
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<v Speaker 3>it's a dark world.

719
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the escellent Institute, right, just like Tavistock gone West.

720
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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's really what happened in a way, right,

721
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<v Speaker 2>and and uh, it's just like all these celebrity personalities

722
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>are clearly manufactured and and uh if many of them

723
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.440
<v Speaker 2>are entirely manufactured out of whole cloth and then kind

724
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 2>of like given this this uh this you know, disingenuous

725
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>rise right to this level of prominence.

726
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>That is so clearly uh as far as just like they.

727
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Were put on the path by the permanent establishment and

728
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<v Speaker 2>and are are given uh, the these these very it's

729
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.000
<v Speaker 2>just you're you're given that privileged position of of you

730
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.760
<v Speaker 2>get all these opportunities come your way, right, because it's

731
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>it's entirely a corrupt obviously, uh deliberately a corrupt system.

732
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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's that's intentionally creating these influencing operations as

733
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<v Speaker 2>far as that's what they become, right, they become these

734
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<v Speaker 2>sort of.

735
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<v Speaker 6>There is a Laurel Canyon of podcasting too. I know

736
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<v Speaker 6>people like to skirt around that.

737
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>But partly, boy, I'd like to talk.

738
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<v Speaker 3>I like to talk about Pat con anciently and cargo

739
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.719
<v Speaker 3>cults in the society of Cincinnative made real quick.

740
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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, But what do you think of Sean Ryan? What

741
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 1>do you think of it?

742
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<v Speaker 3>Like, I have a lot of thoughts on a lot

743
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:20.480
<v Speaker 3>of those subjects. I just I just understand that the

744
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.480
<v Speaker 3>amount of dust that gets spun up when when these

745
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<v Speaker 3>things get.

746
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<v Speaker 2>I just think that the alternative media landscape is very

747
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 2>much oversaturated with what seemed to be you know, intelligence

748
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 2>assets put into positions strategically to influence the fleeing masses

749
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<v Speaker 2>from the death of the mainstream media, who are.

750
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Being former Navy seals and suddenly pop up with a

751
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 3>full blown studio and all the guests that Joe Rogan is.

752
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.519
<v Speaker 6>Let me tell you something for the last and he

753
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.400
<v Speaker 6>vouch because I said this month ago I said, you watch,

754
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.440
<v Speaker 6>Joe Rogan is going to start talking about coming a

755
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 6>Christian and did da da da da, And I went

756
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 6>on and on, and I said, there's this disingenuine Christian

757
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.599
<v Speaker 6>conspiracy podcaster movement. And just recently my husband brought this

758
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.119
<v Speaker 6>to my attention. Joe Rogan's been talking about going to

759
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:17.159
<v Speaker 6>church and doing and I said, I fucking told all

760
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:20.960
<v Speaker 6>of you. I said, wait, it's gonna happen. And I'm

761
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<v Speaker 6>just saying, as much as there's a Laurel Canyon of

762
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 6>anything else, there's a Laurel Canyon of podcasting. And just

763
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<v Speaker 6>just to kind of sum up something that I had

764
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<v Speaker 6>thoughts on the Solar Temple really quick after I read

765
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:39.679
<v Speaker 6>Program to Kill in a couple other books, I thought

766
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:42.159
<v Speaker 6>it was important, and then I read a book about

767
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 6>the Solar Temple after I saw on Ancient Aliens, like

768
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:50.360
<v Speaker 6>a year or two ago. People don't have time to

769
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<v Speaker 6>like sit and consume information in the way that a

770
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.760
<v Speaker 6>lot of other people do. Like for me, I actually

771
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 6>like reading, like that was one of the things I

772
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.800
<v Speaker 6>like to do before I started to podcast. But people

773
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.559
<v Speaker 6>don't consume information in that way anymore. So I feel

774
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<v Speaker 6>like it's really cool that we could take a subject

775
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:11.079
<v Speaker 6>like the solar Temple, like there's probably tons of books

776
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:14.039
<v Speaker 6>and shit written about it. There's obviously programmed to kill

777
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<v Speaker 6>as a book strange scenes inside the canyon.

778
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.519
<v Speaker 7>With a book, you take it and you make.

779
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<v Speaker 6>It like consumable podcast style for people to just have

780
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.360
<v Speaker 6>like conversations about it, and I think it makes it

781
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<v Speaker 6>more easily digestible. And that's why a lot of these

782
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.719
<v Speaker 6>weird subjects are coming back to the forefront after all

783
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:40.119
<v Speaker 6>these years, is because podcasters are making like podcast versions

784
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 6>of books and the information is more readily accessible. And

785
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.039
<v Speaker 6>that's why I love listening to podcasts right, because you

786
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:53.440
<v Speaker 6>get like Nick's perspective, Austin's perspective, HEIDIJJ and I obviously

787
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:56.840
<v Speaker 6>have my own perspective, but it's these same topics, like

788
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.000
<v Speaker 6>how many people are gonna go and be like, oh,

789
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 6>I'm at the library. I wonder if I can get

790
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 6>a book about weird cults today.

791
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:05.039
<v Speaker 7>Nobody's doing that.

792
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:10.880
<v Speaker 5>To your point, it's so important to have all it's

793
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 5>going to stand out different for you, for Nick, for me,

794
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<v Speaker 5>for JJ, for Austin.

795
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<v Speaker 4>I think you're right. I think this is so critical.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean they will listen to a podcast, but

797
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.760
<v Speaker 6>they won't read the book. Right. How many times have

798
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<v Speaker 6>I said in podcasts, read this book, you should read

799
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:28.639
<v Speaker 6>this book. Nobody's going to read the book.

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<v Speaker 4>They just want to They just want to talk about.

801
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<v Speaker 7>It, you know what I mean?

802
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<v Speaker 1>Hear me talk about this to me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, read like the summarise, you know, I mean my

804
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<v Speaker 3>understanding what you're describing.

805
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.079
<v Speaker 1>I just don't read ship. No.

806
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<v Speaker 2>But I think that most of us have been conditioned

807
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<v Speaker 2>to to into this sort of you know, one for one,

808
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the attention span has been deliberately and intentionally you know,

809
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.760
<v Speaker 2>shortened for this purpose. And I think that's in order

810
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<v Speaker 2>to effectively place you in the trap of the ideological prison.

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<v Speaker 2>And and you most people aren't even aware that right

812
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<v Speaker 2>they remain in these chains of right and of ideological subversion,

813
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<v Speaker 2>that that is clearly kind of corrupting their ability to

814
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<v Speaker 2>even engage with reality in any sort of objective way

815
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<v Speaker 2>and in an honest way. And and and I think

816
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>that with that comes this lack of discipline, which comes

817
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<v Speaker 2>the lack of effort. And it's just now we we've

818
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<v Speaker 2>been conditioned to become these just lazy, I mean under educated,

819
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<v Speaker 2>but I mean it's not within the context of public

820
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<v Speaker 2>education or the system itself, right, I mean actual information, right,

821
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<v Speaker 2>like the And that's another thing is who's studying like

822
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<v Speaker 2>primary source documents and trying to pull.

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<v Speaker 6>The I mean, I'm a nineties kid, and I remember

824
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 6>like so looking forward to this stupid fucking book fair

825
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<v Speaker 6>and like actually getting books and shit, and like asking

826
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:12.480
<v Speaker 6>my mom for money to like get books at the

827
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 6>stupid fucking book fair. Like I think I'm the nineties

828
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<v Speaker 6>kids are like the last generation of kids who were

829
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 6>made to read in school and like you would have

830
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.400
<v Speaker 6>homework of reading this book and like coming back and

831
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<v Speaker 6>like I loved that shit. And I still to this day,

832
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<v Speaker 6>I'll be like, oh my god, I found this book.

833
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<v Speaker 6>But I mean there's a bookshelf behind me. My husband's

834
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<v Speaker 6>collected all these books. But I think, yeah, I mean,

835
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<v Speaker 6>podcasts are just like people talking about interesting books and

836
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:41.280
<v Speaker 6>shit that they've read that other people are not going

837
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<v Speaker 6>to read. And I think it's very important because if

838
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<v Speaker 6>you can't google it these days, it's just like, I

839
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<v Speaker 6>guess information's not out there, right.

840
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I've had people on the show that that's what they

842
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<v Speaker 8>do for podcasting, is preview books.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean it's important, I think, oh yeah, But anyways,

844
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<v Speaker 6>I didn't want a tangent too far. I just wanted

845
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<v Speaker 6>to say I I do think that the Solar Temple

846
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<v Speaker 6>is one of the subjects among many that have been

847
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<v Speaker 6>documented throughout time. But it's just coming to the forefront

848
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.840
<v Speaker 6>now because people don't go searching for this information. They're

849
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 6>interested in reading stuff. They're not interested in, you know,

850
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.719
<v Speaker 6>diving deep into weird rabbit holes about stuff like that.

851
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:31.599
<v Speaker 1>So right, you know it, no attention to the man behind.

852
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:35.920
<v Speaker 6>The curtain, right right, right, It's just two weird French

853
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.000
<v Speaker 6>dudes who had a bug up the pass right, who

854
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.400
<v Speaker 6>murdered a bunch of people underground tunnels like that.

855
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:44.280
<v Speaker 7>That's what they want you to believe.

856
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.719
<v Speaker 6>Is they just set a bunch of random idiots on fire,

857
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:55.199
<v Speaker 6>and it's like, well, yeah, no.

858
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:57.480
<v Speaker 7>The same with Heaven's Gate, the same with a lot

859
00:48:57.519 --> 00:48:58.159
<v Speaker 7>of these colds.

860
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:00.760
<v Speaker 6>They want you to believe it's a lone nuh right

861
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:03.840
<v Speaker 6>who starts a cult and murders everybody and that's just

862
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 6>the end of the story.

863
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>There, She wrote, I got so many ideas on Heaven's Gate.

864
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:09.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you want to talk about mind control they

865
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:11.159
<v Speaker 3>call themselves, Guinea and pig.

866
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:12.880
<v Speaker 7>Yes, I know they did.

867
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>They I'm always talking about.

868
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.199
<v Speaker 7>Doling tea, all these weird fucking names.

869
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the inmental hospital, right, yeah it is yeah, yeah, people,

870
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:26.039
<v Speaker 3>finy nettles.

871
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I fucking know all about the heaven skate assholes.

872
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 6>And in the end, it's more cult ritualism. Shave your head,

873
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:40.119
<v Speaker 6>become androgynists, castraight yourself and now and now poison yourself.

874
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 6>Wear Nikes, you know, gives a whole new meaning to

875
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:44.239
<v Speaker 6>just do it.

876
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:45.239
<v Speaker 7>Okay, how much.

877
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 3>How much you think Nike paid again on that side

878
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:53.480
<v Speaker 3>be a good marketing? I mean, come on, bad pr

879
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:55.599
<v Speaker 3>Everyone still talks about them black Nikes.

880
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:58.400
<v Speaker 6>I got my own pair, and I've talked about the

881
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 6>Nikes before, Okay, the same way, the same way that

882
00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 6>they promoted the fucking Nikes and Forrest Gump the running shoes.

883
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.480
<v Speaker 6>Nike shows up on all kinds of weird places. If

884
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:12.880
<v Speaker 6>you if you're really looking for it, is.

885
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:13.559
<v Speaker 1>That what you're talking about?

886
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, just saying just saying Solar Temple did not

887
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:20.360
<v Speaker 6>get off the hook for me as just being like

888
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 6>two fucking weird French dudes that set a bunch of

889
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 6>people on fire.

890
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:27.360
<v Speaker 7>It just it cannot be that simple.

891
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no way in my opinion.

892
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:35.400
<v Speaker 2>And there was a letter, by the way, that was

893
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:39.360
<v Speaker 2>clearly it was written after the fact. It was supposed

894
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:43.760
<v Speaker 2>to provide a motivation, a motivating factor for the murders, right,

895
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:48.400
<v Speaker 2>that was that was discovered, And it's really strange it essentially.

896
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh and by the way, there's an anonymous This is

897
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.400
<v Speaker 2>a clue, right as far as these two anonymous letters

898
00:50:55.400 --> 00:51:01.119
<v Speaker 2>that were sent to the Swiss newspapers, and the first

899
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>was a twenty two page document that said the deaths

900
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 2>were an act of transition from this world and gave

901
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:10.079
<v Speaker 2>sufficient details of the order's activities to make clear that

902
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.760
<v Speaker 2>this author was apparently deeply involved in them, so obviously

903
00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:19.119
<v Speaker 2>insinuating that he's a member of the OTS. And it's

904
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 2>interesting because obviously if you look at these letters and

905
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:30.079
<v Speaker 2>also consider the fact that the envelope was analyzed and

906
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it showed that it had been posted in Geneva at

907
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.039
<v Speaker 2>eleven am on Wednesday, and this is long after the

908
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 2>fires had been put out, right, So it's an interesting

909
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.920
<v Speaker 2>timing to say the least. And you have the author

910
00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:48.639
<v Speaker 2>who apparently was attempting to delude investigators into thinking he

911
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 2>was part of a suicide pact. He wrote, to everyone

912
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 2>who can still hear the voice of wisdom, we addressed

913
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.719
<v Speaker 2>this final message. It is with boundless love, unspeakable joy,

914
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 2>and no regret at all that we leave this world.

915
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:06.079
<v Speaker 7>That's coming from Joseph Dimambro.

916
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 3>This is anonymous, anonymous letters sent to Swiss newspapers, supposedly

917
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:18.320
<v Speaker 3>from the cult. Right, this is the claim, yes is

918
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 3>it's it's uh see this.

919
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:23.239
<v Speaker 6>This is another thing that makes me think this is

920
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:26.000
<v Speaker 6>all just set up bullshit, because it's like they gotta

921
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:29.599
<v Speaker 6>make this scary letter like you know, oh, I'm peeing

922
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:33.280
<v Speaker 6>my panties now. They sent this fucking letter about so

923
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:36.679
<v Speaker 6>long farewell avdter saying we're burning ourselves.

924
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:39.679
<v Speaker 7>Like this doesn't make any sense to me.

925
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:42.440
<v Speaker 6>They have to have like some scary letter that they

926
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.559
<v Speaker 6>send like we did this to ourselves and look at

927
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 6>and then you really look into the forensic medications and

928
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:57.440
<v Speaker 6>what they got poisoned and shot in the head and okay,

929
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.320
<v Speaker 6>who wrote the letter? Which one wrote the letter? Because

930
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:01.679
<v Speaker 6>they were all murdered.

931
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Exactly I mean, and that that, you know, begs the

932
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:09.320
<v Speaker 2>question why are all these as far as it at

933
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:11.960
<v Speaker 2>the very least, it in a way explains the fact,

934
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.159
<v Speaker 2>right that you had all these police raids that occurred

935
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:18.960
<v Speaker 2>in these on these apartments in Geneva after after this

936
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.920
<v Speaker 2>took place, and apparently this there was a second letter, right,

937
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that was, they were both sent the same time, but

938
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:29.440
<v Speaker 2>this second letter happened to denounce the way in which

939
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 2>the Coultists transition from life right had taken place and

940
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:41.800
<v Speaker 2>seemed to attack Durrey's incompetent and deviant behavior allegedly barbaric

941
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:43.840
<v Speaker 2>even was even what it was called in the in

942
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the letter. And it was also posted at the same

943
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:51.360
<v Speaker 2>time eleven am on the Wednesday, which is, you know,

944
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.760
<v Speaker 2>hours after the fires had had been put out, as

945
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:59.280
<v Speaker 2>they said, So the police apparently believed at the time

946
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:02.280
<v Speaker 2>that these authors of both of the letters were still

947
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:06.320
<v Speaker 2>alive in Geneva, obviously, right, because the fires have already

948
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:08.679
<v Speaker 2>been put out. So these are members of the cult

949
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:13.400
<v Speaker 2>who clearly knew of the mass death and then provided

950
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:18.079
<v Speaker 2>these letters that allegedly gave the motivation for which the

951
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:23.440
<v Speaker 2>cult members were, you know, pursuing this mass death, revolutionary

952
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:27.960
<v Speaker 2>mass suicide. And so yeah, he says that at least

953
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the police, the police and the authorities. They claimed that

954
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.199
<v Speaker 2>these individuals were potentially still in Geneva at the time

955
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:38.039
<v Speaker 2>and were directly connected to the deaths and the two villages.

956
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:43.880
<v Speaker 2>And then they subsequently rated apparently a long list of

957
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:47.440
<v Speaker 2>apartments in Geneva that were connected to this investigation. And

958
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.679
<v Speaker 2>that's why you have like evidence in Sharie and Salvaon

959
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.719
<v Speaker 2>and more in heights that also undermined the theory of

960
00:54:56.840 --> 00:55:00.960
<v Speaker 2>collective suicide, because you had fifteen bodies found not in

961
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 2>the two chalets that burnt down, but in a third

962
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 2>chalet where timing devices, as I mentioned.

963
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:08.679
<v Speaker 1>Before, had failed to set off the fire.

964
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:12.800
<v Speaker 2>And uh, and you had these witnesses right that said

965
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.719
<v Speaker 2>it was clear that the farm owner had died before

966
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:17.360
<v Speaker 2>the fire on Tuesday night.

967
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:20.039
<v Speaker 1>The corpse was cold, long cold.

968
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:23.239
<v Speaker 2>He must have died by the previous afternoon, they said.

969
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Apparently one witness claims and the discovery of these drugs

970
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:31.599
<v Speaker 2>once again administered to the cultists at Sharie by injections

971
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:36.920
<v Speaker 2>or intravenous drip, gave for the reason for individuals investigating

972
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the case to believe that.

973
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:43.559
<v Speaker 6>The Iravy really, yeah, man, this is some fucked up fuckery.

974
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:51.079
<v Speaker 7>I mean, an IVY drip v drip.

975
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.360
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, right, what did you say that too? Sounds like.

976
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:02.519
<v Speaker 3>Zizzies with the plastic bags on some of the victim's heads.

977
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:06.039
<v Speaker 7>Apparently that's like head and skate. They put fucking plastic

978
00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:07.480
<v Speaker 7>bags on their heads.

979
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:07.719
<v Speaker 1>You know what.

980
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:11.639
<v Speaker 2>They said that the reason being was they excused it.

981
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:15.400
<v Speaker 2>There was a justification, justification that jiorret himself. Luke Jora

982
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:20.719
<v Speaker 2>said his group had used plastic bags and rituals to

983
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:28.360
<v Speaker 2>symbolize humanity sinning against nature.

984
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:27.880
<v Speaker 4>Conditioned all the way around.

985
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:29.039
<v Speaker 7>Well, you have to be.

986
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:31.639
<v Speaker 6>You'd have to be because you know, and I don't

987
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:33.239
<v Speaker 6>know if we're about to wrap up or what, but

988
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:36.480
<v Speaker 6>just think of the mindset you'd have to have to

989
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.679
<v Speaker 6>want to do something like this to yourself. It sounds

990
00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 6>like most of them didn't want to and they were

991
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:45.119
<v Speaker 6>just murdered, which makes more sense to me because I'm

992
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:48.480
<v Speaker 6>not going down. I'm not killing myself in this way

993
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:54.639
<v Speaker 6>over some retarded stuff like this. But it's like, let's

994
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:57.880
<v Speaker 6>say that some of them did kill themselves. You must

995
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:01.440
<v Speaker 6>have to be so completely under the control of these

996
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:07.039
<v Speaker 6>two guys that sound it would sound better to die

997
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.880
<v Speaker 6>than to continue living without them.

998
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:14.239
<v Speaker 5>I think they just yeah, they just poisoned them after

999
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:16.599
<v Speaker 5>the fact, they got them to sleep and then you know.

1000
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.079
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean that makes more sense to me.

1001
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I would agree.

1002
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:26.760
<v Speaker 2>And considering that, you know, as I mentioned multiple times,

1003
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.159
<v Speaker 2>just the wealthy nature of many of the recruits and

1004
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:33.400
<v Speaker 2>initiates of the OTS, like you had members of the cult,

1005
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:40.440
<v Speaker 2>like one of the members wives inevitably sued de Mambro, right,

1006
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:45.079
<v Speaker 2>I believe she sued the cult and ended up receiving

1007
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:49.320
<v Speaker 2>a ninety five thousand pound out of court settlement. And

1008
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:51.920
<v Speaker 2>so there was definitely like some and this is all

1009
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:55.119
<v Speaker 2>leading up to the mass deaths, and so you had

1010
00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:59.400
<v Speaker 2>a police discovering that the OTS had even infiltrated the

1011
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Provinces Electric Power Company in Quebec, Canada, right, Hydro Quebec

1012
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:07.039
<v Speaker 2>is the name. And this is, as I said before,

1013
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.639
<v Speaker 2>where a number of these bombings of transmission towers had

1014
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 2>taken place the exact same year as the infiltration of

1015
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:19.519
<v Speaker 2>the OTS members. And Jerra was was even convicted of

1016
00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:24.079
<v Speaker 2>illegal possession of weapons in ninety three, just before the

1017
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:26.960
<v Speaker 2>deaths all began to happen in ninety four, and so

1018
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 2>you know he was even uh oh yeah, and he

1019
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:32.559
<v Speaker 2>was there.

1020
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:35.760
<v Speaker 5>Was a tape right about them talking after the fact, right,

1021
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:37.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1022
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:41.400
<v Speaker 3>They're dealing in guns, right, oh yeah, yeap. And mean

1023
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:45.840
<v Speaker 3>they're speaking of the tapes. They're on tape discussing the

1024
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:47.639
<v Speaker 3>branch Davidians beat them to the bunch.

1025
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:50.159
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's what it was that I'm thinking of.

1026
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and the branchda Indians are dealing guns, and I

1027
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:57.239
<v Speaker 3>suspected dealing guns through what is known as the Midwest Depot,

1028
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:01.079
<v Speaker 3>the secret CIA depot in northern part of San Antonio,

1029
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:03.159
<v Speaker 3>Texas Air Force.

1030
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:07.719
<v Speaker 2>That's where they said the institution was that uh, that

1031
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:11.239
<v Speaker 2>David Koresh and at least I believe seven of his

1032
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:16.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, inner circle were allegedly programmed at the institution

1033
00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:19.320
<v Speaker 2>by an MK ultra operative that was you know, in

1034
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:19.960
<v Speaker 2>that area.

1035
00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:21.800
<v Speaker 1>And you know what I'm talking about.

1036
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, And it turns out through the Paul Wilcher

1037
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:28.360
<v Speaker 2>connection that I mentioned earlier, right that journalists who was

1038
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:33.199
<v Speaker 2>assassinated said he knew more than Danny Castilero. It was

1039
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:36.559
<v Speaker 2>through that contact that CIA domestic uh uh you know

1040
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:39.360
<v Speaker 2>uh operative who who was who claimed to be the

1041
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:41.079
<v Speaker 2>pilot in the October surprise.

1042
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:43.599
<v Speaker 1>He also claimed.

1043
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:47.159
<v Speaker 2>That that David Koresh was under mind control. He was

1044
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:51.599
<v Speaker 2>essentially they were programmed to pursue the creation of a bomb,

1045
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:55.199
<v Speaker 2>and that they were actually trying to to uh uh

1046
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:58.760
<v Speaker 2>they had. It's very interesting. They said that many Green Berets.

1047
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:01.119
<v Speaker 2>There was a program that was up where green Berets

1048
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:04.639
<v Speaker 2>would be domestically, uh brought back to the US domestically

1049
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:07.079
<v Speaker 2>and then Special Forces.

1050
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.119
<v Speaker 4>Y was it doctor sir hand? Was it doctor hypnotists?

1051
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:11.039
<v Speaker 4>Sir hand? Sir hand?

1052
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:11.280
<v Speaker 7>Guy?

1053
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh my god, right, like it's the same.

1054
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:18.800
<v Speaker 7>Somehow the Branch Davidians. My husband was telling me.

1055
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:23.119
<v Speaker 6>Somehow the Branch Davidians inspired the Oklahoma City bombing stuff.

1056
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:28.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and that what was that guy's name?

1057
01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:29.800
<v Speaker 1>That Oklahoma bomb was there?

1058
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:32.599
<v Speaker 7>That's right, that's.

1059
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Right, And they're all connected to the Order in Idaho. Yes,

1060
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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:42.360
<v Speaker 6>David Koresh is a severely misunderstood character in my opinion,

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01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.840
<v Speaker 6>and I think I mean I've covered him in my

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01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:49.360
<v Speaker 6>cult series, but yeah, I mean that's a whole other

1064
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:54.360
<v Speaker 6>with the Ruby Ridge and everything. There's an HBO series

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01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:54.719
<v Speaker 6>on that.

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01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:57.800
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I think that twenty Special Forces Group

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01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.599
<v Speaker 3>is a key thing to understand there also your point.

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01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:08.519
<v Speaker 2>Out absolutely, Yeah, I'm there's this fascinating uh cavedef dot org.

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01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:12.559
<v Speaker 2>George from cave Def. He's super cool, dude. He has

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01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:16.880
<v Speaker 2>provided you know, quite a bit of the resources available

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01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 2>at at cabdef dot org that as far as like,

1072
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:22.599
<v Speaker 2>he's put together a very long list of let's say,

1073
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.440
<v Speaker 2>there's one on mind control programs, there's one on the

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01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:28.480
<v Speaker 2>son of Sam even just right that goes into very

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01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:30.199
<v Speaker 2>deep levels of research.

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01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:31.639
<v Speaker 1>It's a great resource.

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01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:36.559
<v Speaker 2>But this is where I first discovered the alleged connection

1078
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:41.519
<v Speaker 2>right between uh, the the potential mind control wrinkle to

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01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:45.039
<v Speaker 2>the Waco siege, which just blew me away. Because if

1080
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:48.440
<v Speaker 2>you I mean Waco was one of my red pill moments,

1081
01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm very much it was. It was really Ruby Ridge,

1082
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Waco and Okac that woke me up. You know that

1083
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I related so much to to Sammy Weaver, right, Sam

1084
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Sammy we for the little boy out on the farm

1085
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:05.079
<v Speaker 2>with his dog and his gun, you know, and and

1086
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:06.880
<v Speaker 2>that's how I was raised. I mean, I grew up

1087
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:09.519
<v Speaker 2>on a thirty five acre farm in northwest Arkansas. It

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01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:14.079
<v Speaker 2>was just like I related directly to this, and sure

1089
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:16.920
<v Speaker 2>it does one of these activities in that region, right,

1090
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:20.599
<v Speaker 2>the image you're talking about where you're exactly, and it's

1091
01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:23.880
<v Speaker 2>it's really just a perfect window into, you know, the

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01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:28.440
<v Speaker 2>very least what what your government is capable of, right,

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01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:30.679
<v Speaker 2>And that's it's kind of the way that I look

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01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:31.039
<v Speaker 2>at it.

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01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:34.280
<v Speaker 3>But you, David, it was all those Special Forces guys

1096
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:37.119
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about throughout all this stuff from Fort Bragg

1097
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:40.760
<v Speaker 3>operating through the twenty Special Forces Group like that, the

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01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:44.760
<v Speaker 3>infamous Mina, Arkansas pilot for the meddying cartaeil, trafficking of

1099
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Iran contrac coke into America, Berry Seal, likely member of

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01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:52.199
<v Speaker 3>the Society of Cincinnati, member of the twenties Special Forces.

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01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:52.960
<v Speaker 1>So crazy.

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01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:56.119
<v Speaker 6>So if you were going to give the Solar Temple

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01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:03.880
<v Speaker 6>a rating from one to ten, did jock Straps connected.

1104
01:03:03.480 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 7>To you know, did jock?

1105
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm betting the bank. I'm betting ten jocks, all right,

1106
01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna bet.

1107
01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:17.239
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna bet eight jock Straps on the Solar. I've

1108
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:20.320
<v Speaker 6>heard crazier. But they're up there, right, they got to

1109
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 6>be up there. They got connections, they got weirdness, they

1110
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:26.920
<v Speaker 6>got burnt bodies, They've got three different you know, events

1111
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:28.599
<v Speaker 6>happening over the span of a couple of years.

1112
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:31.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm going on both sides of the bombs. They're on

1113
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:34.639
<v Speaker 3>both sides of they've they've gone international on both sides

1114
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:35.159
<v Speaker 3>of the ponders.

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01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:36.239
<v Speaker 1>They're very prolific.

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01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:39.400
<v Speaker 7>All right, all right, I amend my rating. I'll give

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01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:41.239
<v Speaker 7>it nine. Did jock straps?

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01:03:41.360 --> 01:03:41.599
<v Speaker 1>Nick?

1119
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:47.320
<v Speaker 7>Where are you?

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01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Let me?

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01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Uh quick, I'll be right back and then I'll give

1122
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.559
<v Speaker 2>my final thoughts on that, and I'll be right back.

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01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 8>Guy. I like a seven or eight.

1124
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:01.000
<v Speaker 9>And the reason the reason why it's getting a lower

1125
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:02.480
<v Speaker 9>rating is because.

1126
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:05.400
<v Speaker 8>I do think it's probably intelligence behind that. I think

1127
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:09.280
<v Speaker 8>if there was actually organic organic every like, hell, that's

1128
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:10.119
<v Speaker 8>fucking crazy.

1129
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Yep, I'm reading my boat. I'd like to read you

1130
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:17.960
<v Speaker 3>my I'm gonna downgrade them for being French. I'm gonna

1131
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:18.599
<v Speaker 3>give them a five.

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01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:24.079
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to give them a six because I am

1133
01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:27.280
<v Speaker 5>certain if I study hard enough on this, Bouvier is

1134
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.559
<v Speaker 5>gonna come up because of the French connection, and this ship.

1135
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Is going to go a wild So he challenge except

1136
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.440
<v Speaker 3>challenge except yes? Five?

1137
01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:37.280
<v Speaker 7>Did jocks drop?

1138
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:39.800
<v Speaker 4>I said six?

1139
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:43.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to actually, I'm gonna i'd like to I'd

1140
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:46.679
<v Speaker 3>like to redo mine to give them zero jockstraps.

1141
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:51.400
<v Speaker 5>Because the zero read just because I'm just saying some

1142
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 5>there is some fuckery about There is so many. He's

1143
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 5>mentioned another podcast that I watched prepping for this. He's

1144
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:01.119
<v Speaker 5>mentioned some people that he didn't go all the way

1145
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.000
<v Speaker 5>up the line, like like Thane Eugene Caesar, and I'm like,

1146
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:05.800
<v Speaker 5>keep going, keep going.

1147
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:10.800
<v Speaker 6>People are in the comments also should rate people in

1148
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:13.599
<v Speaker 6>the comments section need to rate one to ten? Did

1149
01:05:13.679 --> 01:05:18.000
<v Speaker 6>jockstraps for the Solar Temple? Just curious what the listeners

1150
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:24.039
<v Speaker 6>think out there because I'm reading, Yeah, did jock strap?

1151
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:33.599
<v Speaker 2>So I I think we're at We're at. I mean, definitely,

1152
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm ten out of ten. I believe this was Operation

1153
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Gladio all day long. And I think that, you know, again,

1154
01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:44.039
<v Speaker 2>as I said before, like why for who is the

1155
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:47.400
<v Speaker 2>membro crossing borders with massive sums of money?

1156
01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:54.639
<v Speaker 1>That's one major NASA And also like.

1157
01:05:56.599 --> 01:06:00.880
<v Speaker 2>We have like two French policemen who were stationed in animas, right,

1158
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the alleged assassins.

1159
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Who who who basically were supposed to have been involved, right?

1160
01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:15.360
<v Speaker 2>And uh, And essentially what happened was there was Charles Pascal,

1161
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:19.119
<v Speaker 2>right was was directly as far as a few days

1162
01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:23.679
<v Speaker 2>before the Vercors massacre. Right, these two alleged assassins go

1163
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:26.719
<v Speaker 2>to the Ministry of the Interior headed by Charles Pascal,

1164
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:29.880
<v Speaker 2>who's directly involved in the local Gladio connections that are

1165
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:33.880
<v Speaker 2>playing out with the ots. And and this is a

1166
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:37.000
<v Speaker 2>few days before the Coors massacre happens. And so I

1167
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:39.599
<v Speaker 2>think that this is like deliberate connection to the plot,

1168
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:41.800
<v Speaker 2>that this is how we're carrying it out.

1169
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:44.000
<v Speaker 1>The plan is being hatched at this moment.

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01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:50.039
<v Speaker 2>And and there's a fascinating link as far as these

1171
01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:54.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of organizations, right, the Grand Lodge de France and uh,

1172
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:59.599
<v Speaker 2>all all these belonged to this this sort of it

1173
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:02.159
<v Speaker 2>was called the g l n F Opera, and it

1174
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:06.880
<v Speaker 2>was essentially like, uh, this this umbrella organization and uh

1175
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:10.079
<v Speaker 2>and it kind of like really just like you had

1176
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:13.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, a commander of the O s mt J

1177
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:16.920
<v Speaker 2>involved as well then you, which is obviously you have

1178
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:21.119
<v Speaker 2>this Martinist order, the renovated Order of the Temple, the

1179
01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:24.639
<v Speaker 2>o RT connection that's involved here, the head of which

1180
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:28.000
<v Speaker 2>right was was propelled.

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01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:28.679
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

1182
01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Uh this collaborator Julian Rigas, who is in my mind

1183
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:36.800
<v Speaker 2>the direct connection to Luke Gerray for the Gladio Dynamic

1184
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 2>and that's what I find so interesting here, right, is

1185
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:46.760
<v Speaker 2>that you have essentially, you know, with Julian Rigas, his

1186
01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:50.960
<v Speaker 2>background is so strange, right, and he's he's connected in

1187
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:56.039
<v Speaker 2>with with essentially you have like the rectified Scottish Rite

1188
01:07:56.559 --> 01:08:02.400
<v Speaker 2>that's involved ancient, uh ancient and accepted Scottish Rite. There's

1189
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.920
<v Speaker 2>all these different versions that seem to overlap with each other.

1190
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:08.559
<v Speaker 5>But the Grand Dark Rights, the Dark Rights are the

1191
01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:13.880
<v Speaker 5>ones exactly Cagliostro ones exactly right.

1192
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:21.399
<v Speaker 2>And so I think that you know, it's the Freemasonry

1193
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:24.720
<v Speaker 2>links to very much interests me, you know as well,

1194
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:28.720
<v Speaker 2>because I just think that it's hard to it's hard

1195
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.319
<v Speaker 2>to ignore at the very least that you have Jacques

1196
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Bryer and Aleister Crowley. Even I think with the White

1197
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Brotherhood as far as in many ways the Great White

1198
01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Brotherhood is very in the Great White Lodge. Much of

1199
01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:46.560
<v Speaker 2>this is sort of you know, just the least baked

1200
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.319
<v Speaker 2>in Crowleyism in a way, right, where you kind of have.

1201
01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:50.319
<v Speaker 1>A lot so much further.

1202
01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:51.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like Mystery Babylon.

1203
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:55.600
<v Speaker 5>This goes back to Scott a chronicon and Mystery Babylon.

1204
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:56.720
<v Speaker 4>This is so much further.

1205
01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:59.199
<v Speaker 5>But then everybody perverts it their own way, you know,

1206
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:00.479
<v Speaker 5>whichever flavor.

1207
01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:04.399
<v Speaker 7>So Austin is going ten ten on that.

1208
01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:07.079
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I feel like you could go ten just

1209
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:11.920
<v Speaker 6>based off of the body count, because it's much much

1210
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:16.319
<v Speaker 6>like Jonestown. Jonestown gets ten jockstraps for me just because

1211
01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:21.680
<v Speaker 6>of the you know, ten favarades, ten grape drinks, whatever,

1212
01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:26.000
<v Speaker 6>just off the body count. I mean, Solar Temple, it's

1213
01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:28.640
<v Speaker 6>it's it's one of those high up ones kind of.

1214
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:33.359
<v Speaker 6>I told Nick about a cult called the Restoration of

1215
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:35.920
<v Speaker 6>the Ten Commandments of God. They've got a body count

1216
01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:39.319
<v Speaker 6>like at least a thousand people, so they get a

1217
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:39.960
<v Speaker 6>ten for me.

1218
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:40.800
<v Speaker 7>Again, just.

1219
01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:47.880
<v Speaker 8>A point, right, dude.

1220
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:50.800
<v Speaker 6>He roasted he roasted at least seven hundred and fifty

1221
01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:53.199
<v Speaker 6>people in a church, so he gets he gets ten

1222
01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:57.600
<v Speaker 6>roasted booty holes just based.

1223
01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:58.359
<v Speaker 7>Off the body count.

1224
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:03.840
<v Speaker 6>Oh, Julia, Oh my god, crazy dude, These cults are crazy.

1225
01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:08.279
<v Speaker 6>Solar Temple is wild, you know, so.

1226
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely, But I think so the aregas connection,

1227
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:17.079
<v Speaker 2>I think we definitely should like I should at least

1228
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:20.800
<v Speaker 2>tie that in directly to Durret because I do think

1229
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:23.760
<v Speaker 2>that that's like a smoking gun honestly, in terms of

1230
01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the Gladio connection to the OTS, right and uh, beyond

1231
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:32.520
<v Speaker 2>the fact that you have like this very strange Luciferian

1232
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Internationale that I mentioned before, that that made like these

1233
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:40.279
<v Speaker 2>announcements that seem to be very much, uh you know,

1234
01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:44.600
<v Speaker 2>as far as like the the foundational principles of the

1235
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:46.199
<v Speaker 2>OTS as they were as.

1236
01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:47.920
<v Speaker 1>It was being formed by Demambro.

1237
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:52.119
<v Speaker 2>And I think that you you essentially you have like this,

1238
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:58.000
<v Speaker 2>you have basically where the Green Order they make this announcement, right,

1239
01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:02.720
<v Speaker 2>this this Luciferian you had not only the Green Order,

1240
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:06.239
<v Speaker 2>but the Grand Lodge of the Dragon, the Celtic Brotherhood

1241
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:09.880
<v Speaker 2>apparently the Aryan Order, the Sons of Fire, and the

1242
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:15.199
<v Speaker 2>Lucifer Gazelle Shaft, which was the Luciferian lucifer Society that

1243
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.439
<v Speaker 2>was based in Cologne at the time. And they made

1244
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:22.000
<v Speaker 2>this crazy ass announcement that said, the time has come

1245
01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:25.960
<v Speaker 2>for a solid union of all our societies. It is

1246
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:29.760
<v Speaker 2>high time that the sons and daughters of Hyperborea raise

1247
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:33.239
<v Speaker 2>the flame of the new Times and of the divine

1248
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:39.079
<v Speaker 2>superman air of the grail end of the Boreal Crown.

1249
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.079
<v Speaker 2>From Shimbala, the Holy City of Agartha, comes this polar

1250
01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:48.000
<v Speaker 2>message unite. And then you have these representatives of the

1251
01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Luciferian Associations who met in Brussels in seventy five. And

1252
01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:56.520
<v Speaker 2>this is crazy because it even has like this, what

1253
01:11:56.680 --> 01:12:01.000
<v Speaker 2>was they claimed was in order to seal the charter

1254
01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:04.479
<v Speaker 2>of unification of the legions of Mythris, like this is

1255
01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the terms that they utilize, which is just that's just

1256
01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:13.079
<v Speaker 2>extraordinarily right there. Yeah, exactly, we're talking the Age of

1257
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Aquarius or modern Babylon in my mind, which is kind

1258
01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:19.439
<v Speaker 2>of like what we I think we're uh, kind of

1259
01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:21.359
<v Speaker 2>in this environment where we're in.

1260
01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:25.760
<v Speaker 5>Oh, look at the symbolism for the Look at the Vatican.

1261
01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:28.119
<v Speaker 5>It looks like a key hole that the Mormon Church

1262
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:28.840
<v Speaker 5>just copied them.

1263
01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:29.560
<v Speaker 4>It's a key hole.

1264
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.279
<v Speaker 5>The o NASAs Foundation is a key hole. Go look

1265
01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:35.439
<v Speaker 5>at all these things. They all have the same information.

1266
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:36.960
<v Speaker 5>They're just in their own factions.

1267
01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:42.680
<v Speaker 2>It's the mob, right absolutely all right when they come Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's just it's this part right here I think

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<v Speaker 2>is worth mentioning because it's again it the Age of

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<v Speaker 2>Aquarius is upon us.

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<v Speaker 1>They are at the very.

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<v Speaker 2>Least attempting to kind of you know, usher this in

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<v Speaker 2>and in more ways, wasn't he Oh, yes, and and

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<v Speaker 2>uh and and the Green Order themselves And during this

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01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:11.039
<v Speaker 2>this this time specifically, they had they had made this,

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01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 2>this proclamation that it is indispensable to unite all the

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01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Polar and Solar forces before the Age of Aquarius and

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<v Speaker 2>the New Man. The superman must be ready to take

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01:13:23.680 --> 01:13:26.920
<v Speaker 2>the destiny of humanity into his own hands, because when

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01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:30.680
<v Speaker 2>the most critical moment of the Black Age comes, there

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01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:33.239
<v Speaker 2>will be only one people left to carry the flame

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01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:37.800
<v Speaker 2>us an aryan order of chivalry must be created, and

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01:13:37.920 --> 01:13:41.800
<v Speaker 2>an elite of superiors must be formed who hold the

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01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:46.479
<v Speaker 2>secrets possessed by our ancestors in the Polar Empire. And

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<v Speaker 2>this Julian Arriguez that I keep mentioning, who's directly tied

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<v Speaker 2>in with Dimambro and Gladiol. He happened to be well

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<v Speaker 2>known in these far right circles in the seventies and

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<v Speaker 2>had connections with this neo fascist movement in Italy. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it's Gladiold instantly, because in addition to the Green Order,

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<v Speaker 2>Origas happened to be a member of By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>he also was a member of the International Luciferian Luciferian Right,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just Luciferian International and the Center Templar de Tutis,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is how you pronounce it. But it's historique

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<v Speaker 2>philosophique at esulterik, right, which is just basically how it

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01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:36.319
<v Speaker 2>was pronounced it. As far as the organization in this, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's interesting though, because the grand master

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<v Speaker 2>of this Swiss branch of the O s MTJ right

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<v Speaker 2>O s MTJ, if you don't know, it's his Sovereign

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<v Speaker 2>Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem, which is interesting

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<v Speaker 2>considering Joseph de Membrose connection to israel I also did

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<v Speaker 2>find important. But you had these essentially you had members

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<v Speaker 2>that of this the Usafarian Internationale, who were trafficking weapons

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01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:05.439
<v Speaker 2>in connection with P two that was headed by Lucio

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01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Gelli at the time, and this he was utilizing Julian

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01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Orrigaz for much of these covert operations, and so that

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01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:18.920
<v Speaker 2>you had all these raids carried outs right by Italian

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01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:24.079
<v Speaker 2>authorities at Lucio Gelli's place and everything. But and it

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01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:28.600
<v Speaker 2>inevitably connected back to the OSMTJ and the formation of

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01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:33.319
<v Speaker 2>these strange Masonic allies and right, but the smoking gun

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01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:36.560
<v Speaker 2>comes in the form of in nineteen eighty one right

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<v Speaker 2>Origas becomes acquainted with Luke Giorre, Belgium ex military official

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<v Speaker 2>with ties to Gladio Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is Origas who Jorre.

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<v Speaker 2>Was also happened to be a friend of this Italian

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01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:54.239
<v Speaker 2>fascist linked to Gladio by the name of Claudio Mouti.

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<v Speaker 2>Mouti follower of Franco Freda, one of the leading neo

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01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Nazi and neo fascist intellectuals of the postwar Italian far right.

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<v Speaker 2>Freda belonged to the MSI, which was a neo fascist

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01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:11.119
<v Speaker 2>political party in the Italian social movement, and he began

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<v Speaker 2>to criticize its leadership and as far as saying that

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01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:18.840
<v Speaker 2>it was taking on this Nazi maoist inclination. But it

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01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:24.079
<v Speaker 2>turns out that you have this strange, you know, group

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<v Speaker 2>of r right ar based on the philosophy of Julius

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01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Evola and managed this far right library. Freda described himself

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01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:39.279
<v Speaker 2>apparently as an admirer of Hitler, and he participated in

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01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:45.159
<v Speaker 2>the activities of the Ordine Nuovo and was convicted later

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01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:48.880
<v Speaker 2>acquitted even for lack of evidence, for involvement in the

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01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Piazza Fontana bombing. So clearly we're talking about that paramilitary

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<v Speaker 2>underground that I had referenced earlier with the wacken Hut

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01:16:56.239 --> 01:17:00.359
<v Speaker 2>connections to all of this, and so the the final

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<v Speaker 2>point point here is that from a very young age

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<v Speaker 2>Muti himself which again is is Claudio Muti directly linked

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01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:12.399
<v Speaker 2>as an Italian fascist to Gladio friends with Jiorre and

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01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:15.800
<v Speaker 2>and it turns out that Muti he joined the MSI,

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01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:19.920
<v Speaker 2>but was expelled and then joined the Greek member John

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<v Speaker 2>Francois Thury Art's Young Europe gr ECE also known as

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01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the Research and Study Group of European Civilization. Thirty Art,

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01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:35.319
<v Speaker 2>together with Joorrey and Joseph de Mambro, members of Amoork

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01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:41.880
<v Speaker 2>associate associated with Jacques Bryer, had helped organize a split

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01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:45.760
<v Speaker 2>in the Communist Party of Belgium in the nineteen seventies,

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01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:50.399
<v Speaker 2>creating the party UH, this Nazi mauise party that was

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01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:55.159
<v Speaker 2>it was basically called the PCE and UH and and

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01:17:55.239 --> 01:18:02.079
<v Speaker 2>so this party was which succeeded to be basically this

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01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:06.720
<v Speaker 2>this juin Jewan Europe, I believe is how you pronounced it.

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01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:09.319
<v Speaker 1>But Young Europe is what it was really what all that.

1346
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:13.680
<v Speaker 2>It referenced, right, the that's all it translates to and

1347
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:17.279
<v Speaker 2>and this is a neo fascist euro nationalist movement formed

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01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:21.800
<v Speaker 2>by John Jean Thury Art in Belgium. And this group

1349
01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:25.159
<v Speaker 2>was allegedly controlled by the SDR A eight, which is

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01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:28.520
<v Speaker 2>a branch of Belgium's Gladio. So that is where the

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01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:33.159
<v Speaker 2>direct connection to Luke Jerra comes in into play, Claudio Muti,

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01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Julian Arriguez, and that all brings in the scope of

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01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:39.359
<v Speaker 2>the international Luciferian Green Order.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that's really just the crux of the

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01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:47.479
<v Speaker 2>point that I wanted to make was that it goes

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01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:50.880
<v Speaker 2>so deep into the levels of connections to the Gladio

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01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:55.479
<v Speaker 2>operation at the time. Uh, the strategy of tension obviously,

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01:18:55.960 --> 01:18:59.520
<v Speaker 2>the the what they were really trying to do is

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01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:04.159
<v Speaker 2>create an environment of destabilization, right more than anything. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a fascinating thing to me. And I think

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01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:13.920
<v Speaker 2>that Gladio never ended either, right, I mean, it comes,

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01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:18.279
<v Speaker 2>it resurfaces in full force in terms of the Omar

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01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:21.399
<v Speaker 2>Matine Pulse night club shooting. Even I couldn't believe he

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01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:24.560
<v Speaker 2>was a security guard for G four S Secure Solutions,

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01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:28.039
<v Speaker 2>which just so happened to be the renamed version of

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01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the wacken Hut Security Organization, which was directly tied in

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01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:36.680
<v Speaker 2>as a CIA front to stage GLADIO operations in the

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01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:37.640
<v Speaker 2>strategy of tension.

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<v Speaker 1>So I no, and I know that was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of names, and I apologize, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it's very important to at the least

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01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:53.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of trace this record of GLADIO connections, at least,

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01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:58.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, at some surface level, just to to kind

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01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:04.319
<v Speaker 2>of reinforce the re that this was definitely an intelligence operation.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So that's my sure, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we see the connections right with like pat

1378
01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Con and stuff like that. I think that's the one

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01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:14.119
<v Speaker 3>of the biggest key points to take away from all

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01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:17.000
<v Speaker 3>this conversation is the Gladia never ended. It's still going on,

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01:20:17.079 --> 01:20:19.159
<v Speaker 3>and we see it right there. We see it with

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01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:21.880
<v Speaker 3>what I call Idaho Contra. In my opinion, I've seen

1383
01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:25.039
<v Speaker 3>a lot of different things, right, but you know, we

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01:20:25.079 --> 01:20:26.760
<v Speaker 3>see it with these comparisons to pat Con and that

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01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.880
<v Speaker 3>quote from Heidi earlier that we were talking about with

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01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:32.840
<v Speaker 3>the the you know they were talking about, you know,

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01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:35.479
<v Speaker 3>the branch Davidians beat them to the punch. Folks can

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01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:37.760
<v Speaker 3>check that that quote out from a book that compares

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01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:41.800
<v Speaker 3>these cults, you know, the Branch Davidians and everything else.

1390
01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:44.920
<v Speaker 3>And it's called Apocalypse Observed Religious Movements and Violence in

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01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:47.760
<v Speaker 3>North America, Europe and Japan. So they do a direct

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01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:49.720
<v Speaker 3>comparative analysis in that book. And I would like to

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<v Speaker 3>note that the author of that book, a Philip Daniel Schuler,

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01:20:52.920 --> 01:20:56.720
<v Speaker 3>is a van Rensseloar Schuler, direct paternal descendant of Colonel

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01:20:57.079 --> 01:20:59.359
<v Speaker 3>Shulder of the New Jersey chapter of the Society of

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01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:01.119
<v Speaker 3>the Cincinnati I'm not saying he's a member.

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01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, you know, he's certainly in the mix.

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<v Speaker 7>So JJ, does that mean you're amending your rating because

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01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:11.279
<v Speaker 7>you gave them zero jockstraps.

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01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:16.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm amend my rating to negative five jockstraps because they're friends.

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01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:17.560
<v Speaker 10>Come on.

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01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:27.359
<v Speaker 1>The other French and I'll give them negative ten. Watch well.

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01:21:27.399 --> 01:21:29.920
<v Speaker 6>I did also want to say somebody in the comments

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01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:33.199
<v Speaker 6>section said that they appreciate my dark sense of humor

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01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:35.399
<v Speaker 6>and thank you, because.

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01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, I appreciate your darkness review.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, guys.

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01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:42.880
<v Speaker 6>I mean I feel like, yeah, this is horrible, a

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01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:45.960
<v Speaker 6>lot of people burned up and died, but I mean

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01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:49.840
<v Speaker 6>everything is also at the same time open for being

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01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:50.239
<v Speaker 6>a joke.

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01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, if you can't, we all got to continue life

1413
01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:55.079
<v Speaker 3>as it is. And if you can't make a joke

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01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:56.119
<v Speaker 3>about it, what what what?

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01:21:56.319 --> 01:22:00.079
<v Speaker 4>We definitely and we got more to do, right.

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01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:03.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I can say that this this was very informative.

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01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:07.960
<v Speaker 6>Even after looking into the Solar temple myself, what I

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01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.720
<v Speaker 6>would consider to be a pretty good deep dive, you

1419
01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:15.039
<v Speaker 6>uh surpassed me and a lot of the things that

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01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:20.600
<v Speaker 6>that I was looking into. Yeah, Austin green job, barn

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01:22:20.720 --> 01:22:22.560
<v Speaker 6>burner as that.

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01:22:22.680 --> 01:22:26.680
<v Speaker 3>The hell of a barn burner right there, and discourse

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01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:28.520
<v Speaker 3>for sure, the barn not the.

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01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Barn, I mean house.

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01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:32.079
<v Speaker 10>One.

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01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy.

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01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:39.880
<v Speaker 8>The podcast has a house burner that I made, Oh.

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01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:46.119
<v Speaker 1>My god, very fritting. Yeah, yeah, and literally but.

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01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:49.680
<v Speaker 2>I forgot most of these details because it's been quite

1430
01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:52.279
<v Speaker 2>a while since I did my my deep dive into it,

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01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and uh, just coming out the other end of this

1432
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta case, like my mind is oversaturated with those details

1433
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:01.920
<v Speaker 2>of that case obviously at this moment, and so I

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01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:04.159
<v Speaker 2>would have preferred to have done a little bit more

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01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>of prep get back affiliated with the.

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01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Good job, thank you. Yes, I definitely would have remembered

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01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:16.279
<v Speaker 1>more of these details. I don't know how that's possible, sir.

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01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:19.880
<v Speaker 5>I think we derailed you, and it would have been

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01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:21.279
<v Speaker 5>as much as now.

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01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:27.239
<v Speaker 6>He did amazingly better than ancient aliens. So if you

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01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:28.640
<v Speaker 6>can at least.

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01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Do better, friends alone, oh my god. But the only

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01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:38.079
<v Speaker 2>thing I have left to say really is just that

1444
01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:43.920
<v Speaker 2>what Alex Constantine said, you know, in his archived version

1445
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:47.239
<v Speaker 2>of like his story of of the ots and kind

1446
01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:49.760
<v Speaker 2>of the bridging of he kind of made a lot

1447
01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:53.199
<v Speaker 2>of these Gladiol connections, and and uh very much I

1448
01:23:53.199 --> 01:23:57.319
<v Speaker 2>appreciated him reinforcing a lot of the details in certain ways,

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01:23:57.359 --> 01:24:00.159
<v Speaker 2>and and what he had said, basically the way he

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01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:03.800
<v Speaker 2>ended his piece, I found this to be so poignant,

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01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:07.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, in terms of this case. And it's kind

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01:24:07.199 --> 01:24:10.439
<v Speaker 2>of what I mentioned earlier as far as just what

1453
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:14.439
<v Speaker 2>he suggests, obviously, is that the combination of international arms

1454
01:24:14.439 --> 01:24:20.680
<v Speaker 2>smuggling BCCI and BCCI presented a familiar enough picture of

1455
01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:26.159
<v Speaker 2>cia sedition. The Colt's connection to BCCI, reported in Europe

1456
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:31.159
<v Speaker 2>but filtered from American newspaper accounts, fed speculation among Canadian

1457
01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:34.840
<v Speaker 2>journalists that followers of De Maambro and Jeorret were killed

1458
01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:37.079
<v Speaker 2>to bury public disclosures.

1459
01:24:36.399 --> 01:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Of gun running and money laundering.

1460
01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:42.079
<v Speaker 2>But the fraternizing of America's national security elite and the

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01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:46.520
<v Speaker 2>colts did not begin in Sharise, Switzerland. The Order of

1462
01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the Solar Temple was but the latest incarnation of mind

1463
01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:53.680
<v Speaker 2>control operations organized and overseen by the CIA and the

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01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Department of Defense. I just thought that was beautiful, because.

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01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:01.880
<v Speaker 7>It is sure, for sure, very vor wait to sum

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01:25:01.920 --> 01:25:02.359
<v Speaker 7>it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I just think it's it's too often the case,

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01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:09.279
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, with many of these scandals, right, but

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01:25:10.359 --> 01:25:13.279
<v Speaker 2>I was thoroughly convinced that this this this was a

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01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:20.399
<v Speaker 2>a very sophisticated cover up, you know, and it's it's unfortunate,

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01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:21.239
<v Speaker 2>but it tends to be.

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01:25:21.199 --> 01:25:29.119
<v Speaker 6>The sophisticated yet sloppy and ongoing. Right, Yeah, sophisticated yet

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<v Speaker 6>you know. But it's it's right up there. And like

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<v Speaker 6>I said, you did a great job. I learned a lot.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm sure, I'm sure.

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01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:38.640
<v Speaker 6>I can't I mean, I can't speak for Nick, but

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01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:41.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean I think he dug into some ship that

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01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:43.439
<v Speaker 6>I was not even aware of.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why I said and said it covering on myself.

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01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:46.319
<v Speaker 8>I'll just have him come on.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you Nick.

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01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:52.159
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I really appreciate you brother, you as well,

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01:25:52.199 --> 01:25:55.399
<v Speaker 3>and Julia Heidi, like, it's really nice to be you

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01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:58.279
<v Speaker 3>guys officially, Like I've known of you guys for for

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01:25:58.399 --> 01:25:59.000
<v Speaker 3>quite a while.

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01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>But uh, I.

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01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Was looking forward to this because I was hoping once again,

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01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:06.479
<v Speaker 2>like the more the more interaction I can have with

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01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>like minded people like yourselves, Like, I'm so grateful for this,

1490
01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Like it's, you know, something that gives me purpose, man,

1491
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:18.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, and that's very in this moment in time.

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01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:22.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm everyone should be desperate for this, and I think

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01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:25.640
<v Speaker 2>that most people are there's and this is the reason

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01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:30.199
<v Speaker 2>why they're subconsciously acting out in many ways, right because

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01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:35.079
<v Speaker 2>they might not be entirely aware of this. But yeah, anyway,

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01:26:35.119 --> 01:26:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I just want to say thank you to all of

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01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:39.159
<v Speaker 2>you guys, and I appreciate you guys, you know, for

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01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:40.680
<v Speaker 2>for giving me this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, yes, sir, your time, I mean you brought. I

1501
01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:47.520
<v Speaker 3>got a couple of tabs open it every time we talk.

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01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:49.319
<v Speaker 3>I listened to your all share. Other day, I got

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01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:51.079
<v Speaker 3>a couple of tabs open here to check out. So

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01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:53.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely looking forward to our conversation here in the future.

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01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:58.439
<v Speaker 6>I love meeting new conspiracy friends. Should I met my

1506
01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:00.640
<v Speaker 6>husband conspiracy podcasting?

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01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:04.119
<v Speaker 7>Thanks Nick, Next.

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01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:09.000
<v Speaker 3>The matchmaker room for you, And.

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01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:10.159
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I mean you never you never know who

1510
01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.800
<v Speaker 6>you're gonna meet. And honestly, I just wanted to say

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01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:15.079
<v Speaker 6>to your point, it's great to be able to connect

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01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:17.800
<v Speaker 6>with people on on you know that are on the

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01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:18.439
<v Speaker 6>same page.

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01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:20.520
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I love the conversation today.

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01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:25.920
<v Speaker 4>It was great, man again, but.

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01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:28.640
<v Speaker 5>Love it.

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01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:31.279
<v Speaker 8>Thank you so much.

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01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:36.000
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, j all right, Julia, you want to let everybody

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01:27:36.079 --> 01:27:37.319
<v Speaker 9>know what I know.

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01:27:37.359 --> 01:27:39.279
<v Speaker 8>You want to try. You want to try real quick,

1521
01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:40.760
<v Speaker 8>just to let everybody know where they can find.

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01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:43.680
<v Speaker 7>You, cosmic peach. Thanks for having me.

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01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, great, great conversation, Austin, I appy sure your time, sir,

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01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:57.479
<v Speaker 3>h JJ vance Operation g c D not the Vice

1525
01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:01.039
<v Speaker 3>President got Fridays tonight with Phil's ze. That'll be an epic,

1526
01:28:01.479 --> 01:28:05.119
<v Speaker 3>farm burning kind of conversation right there. And Julia, I

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01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:08.720
<v Speaker 3>hope you bring your dark humor to the review of

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01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:11.600
<v Speaker 3>ghost Story next Wednesday night and Operation GCD live.

1529
01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:13.560
<v Speaker 7>You can count on it.

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01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:17.039
<v Speaker 3>You can count you always appreciate the time, man, and

1531
01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:20.720
<v Speaker 3>look forward to our occult esoteric review of So I

1532
01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Married an Axe Murder, one of my favorite films that's

1533
01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:25.960
<v Speaker 3>come up in two weeks in Operation GCD Live Nice, Nice,

1534
01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:29.760
<v Speaker 3>and then Operation GCD Sundays. This weekend here, I got

1535
01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:32.840
<v Speaker 3>to a pm E at Easter standard times or daylight times,

1536
01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:35.079
<v Speaker 3>whatever the fuck that means. I don't know the difference.

1537
01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:40.359
<v Speaker 3>The uh it's gonna be uh. That's the legends of

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01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Nathaniel Barr Jonah. And that's the homicidal Kednitlan cannibalistic psychopathic

1539
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:50.079
<v Speaker 3>serial killer whom I came face to face with in

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01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:52.760
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one in Great Falls, Montana and may

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01:28:52.840 --> 01:28:54.359
<v Speaker 3>or may not who may or may not have.

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01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Served me human meat burgers at the parties.

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01:28:56.119 --> 01:28:59.960
<v Speaker 7>Of the job man, human eye.

1544
01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:05.560
<v Speaker 3>A lot of comparisons around the cold activity surrounding this

1545
01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:08.319
<v Speaker 3>man in Great Falls, Montana to the Sun of sam

1546
01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:11.960
<v Speaker 3>process activity in mind No, North Dakota, because the two

1547
01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:14.680
<v Speaker 3>cities are very similar, with the same Air Force bases

1548
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:16.680
<v Speaker 3>in the same missions in both locations.

1549
01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:18.279
<v Speaker 1>So Detective James.

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01:29:18.039 --> 01:29:20.359
<v Speaker 7>And mine never go to Hardy.

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01:29:20.680 --> 01:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, he's a legendary there. Any I'm a big friend

1552
01:29:23.720 --> 01:29:26.279
<v Speaker 3>of his research and work and what he's accomplished there, and.

1553
01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Any boots Man, he makes me cry.

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01:29:28.439 --> 01:29:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm not even playing like reading reading anyway, I

1555
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:35.079
<v Speaker 2>won't get into it, but thank you guys, I appreciate you.

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01:29:35.119 --> 01:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and keep going. Sorry, I appreciate everyone.

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01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:37.720
<v Speaker 10>Si.

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01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:39.279
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to throw on some plugs there for

1559
01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:41.520
<v Speaker 3>any because again, I appreciate everyone's time. And I got

1560
01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.079
<v Speaker 3>some some good shows with your cult rejects coming up,

1561
01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:46.159
<v Speaker 3>and Nick obviously will be there as well in.

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01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>A couple of those at least.

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01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:51.520
<v Speaker 8>Okay and Heidi next, let us go on.

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<v Speaker 5>I am Heidelve on Filtered Rice podcast Everywhere. Podcasts are

1565
01:29:55.119 --> 01:29:58.600
<v Speaker 5>served on filtered Rise podcast dot com and that's where

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01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:00.520
<v Speaker 5>you can find me. Thank you so much Austin for

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01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:03.680
<v Speaker 5>your presentation, and to all of the occult rejects and Boss,

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01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:14.720
<v Speaker 5>thanks a lot. Yeah yeah, the organizer A that's enough,

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01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:15.600
<v Speaker 5>it's a lot.

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01:30:17.079 --> 01:30:20.680
<v Speaker 8>Uh said. Please let everybody please let everybody know they

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01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:22.399
<v Speaker 8>music brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Man again, Nick, thank you, brother, I appreciate you having

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01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:28.159
<v Speaker 2>me on for this and and uh yeah, I uh

1574
01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:33.479
<v Speaker 2>really The Underclass Podcast obviously is my my show, and

1575
01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:36.319
<v Speaker 2>and I have a show every Tuesday night at nine

1576
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:40.800
<v Speaker 2>thirty Eastern time with jose galisong from Noway jose and

1577
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:43.560
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a good time. It's called already dead, and

1578
01:30:43.720 --> 01:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, we basically skitz so out for a good

1579
01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:49.520
<v Speaker 2>forty five and then do like a live interaction with

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01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:52.760
<v Speaker 2>with patrons or or call in as well at that point.

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01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:57.039
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's a good time and and also the

1582
01:30:57.079 --> 01:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>best place to support me is definitely my Patreon. I

1583
01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>have some incentives in place, at least one of them

1584
01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:07.079
<v Speaker 2>being at even at the three dollars level, like you

1585
01:31:07.119 --> 01:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>can get my Paywalt show called whatever this is with

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01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>with Brad Bankley and Sam Tripley, which is a lot

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01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:18.399
<v Speaker 2>of fun. And and beyond that, man, oh yeah, I

1588
01:31:18.399 --> 01:31:22.439
<v Speaker 2>guess I should say. I'm going to uh the Bohemian

1589
01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Grove event next week so in Florida, so that'll be

1590
01:31:25.720 --> 01:31:28.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun. Hopefully some of the other rejects

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01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:29.159
<v Speaker 2>might be there.

1592
01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>But but either way, I heard some cancelation around.

1593
01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Dramatic At the very least, I got nothing belove for

1594
01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:47.039
<v Speaker 2>everybody involved, you know, and and I think that you

1595
01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>know it, things hopefully will will at the very least,

1596
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:52.760
<v Speaker 2>hopefully we'll we'll see some sort of.

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01:31:54.439 --> 01:32:01.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, just just awa, yeah, well what differences aside?

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01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it sounds like you guys are able to

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01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:08.399
<v Speaker 3>get it together still there exactly, it's still happen. Seems

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01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>to be the most important part.

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01:32:09.880 --> 01:32:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Had to change venues, but it is still happening, and

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01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I know Owen and Sam will still be there to perform.

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01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:17.079
<v Speaker 2>I know Shane Cashman is going to be the m

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01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:18.119
<v Speaker 2>c uh.

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01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>And then I.

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01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Talked to I talked to Jake, Jake's producer last night,

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01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:24.840
<v Speaker 2>actually Jake Shields, and he just hit me up and

1608
01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:27.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, for sure they're coming. So that'll that'll be

1609
01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>fun at least, like, well, we'll actually have some legitimate

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01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:32.439
<v Speaker 2>personalities there to to.

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01:32:33.239 --> 01:32:35.439
<v Speaker 1>I think it's you're showing up. You mean.

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01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:39.880
<v Speaker 3>You said about I mean, it all sounds like quite

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01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:41.199
<v Speaker 3>a lineup, But I mean I was about to say,

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01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:43.359
<v Speaker 3>as far as any kind of research goes or ground

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01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:45.079
<v Speaker 3>breaking information, I don't know if any of those fellas

1616
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:46.199
<v Speaker 3>are beating you their search.

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01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:51.399
<v Speaker 2>But I will say, uh, it'll be a lot of fun.

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01:32:51.399 --> 01:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I think as a networking opportunity alone, like just to

1619
01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:58.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of get to meet personally and in physical form

1620
01:32:58.479 --> 01:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>some some of the homies will be really ice and

1621
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:04.119
<v Speaker 2>and uh and beyond that, man stand on principle right,

1622
01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:07.479
<v Speaker 2>like just to be able to pursue the First Amendment,

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01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:12.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, just in this fashion, I think, especially in

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01:33:12.840 --> 01:33:15.800
<v Speaker 2>this moment right where there are so many various justifications

1625
01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:18.479
<v Speaker 2>to infringe upon the First Amendment, Like we got to

1626
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:21.399
<v Speaker 2>stay in tall with these you know, with these principle you.

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01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Ain't getting values, you ain't kidding.

1628
01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:30.159
<v Speaker 6>Conspiracy, postcasting, it's ten jock straps.

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01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I'm done. Thank you guys. I appreciate you all.

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01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:35.920
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, definitely check out that live show.

1631
01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:39.159
<v Speaker 9>He does I know, uh, JJ and Headless has jumped

1632
01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:39.760
<v Speaker 9>on recently.

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01:33:40.479 --> 01:33:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Already tune in. I usually I'm usually typing around those hours.

1634
01:33:44.279 --> 01:33:46.079
<v Speaker 3>I tune in and listening a lot. But I did

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01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I hear you all say something. I'm like, I gotta

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01:33:47.520 --> 01:33:48.359
<v Speaker 3>go to comment on that one.

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01:33:48.399 --> 01:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a good yeah.

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01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:52.399
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So I definitely go check out that lot. I

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01:33:52.439 --> 01:33:54.000
<v Speaker 8>was glad that you mentioned it because if he didn't,

1640
01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:55.800
<v Speaker 8>I was gonna bring that up. Uh.

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01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:58.760
<v Speaker 9>Thank you all again for coming on, Julia, JJ, Heidi,

1642
01:33:58.880 --> 01:33:59.479
<v Speaker 9>that's what's up.

1643
01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:01.439
<v Speaker 8>I love it. I really appreciate you guys being here.

1644
01:34:01.520 --> 01:34:06.079
<v Speaker 9>Austin. Thank you so much. Man again, don't worry about rescheduling.

1645
01:34:06.119 --> 01:34:08.479
<v Speaker 9>It worked out the way it was supposed to. So

1646
01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:10.760
<v Speaker 9>there we go. And that is the end of another

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01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:12.760
<v Speaker 9>occult rejects and thank you everybody in the chat.

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01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:15.079
<v Speaker 8>That's what's up. We'll see you again later on.

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01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.319
<v Speaker 9>Tonight and that is the end of another cult rejects

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01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:18.560
<v Speaker 9>until the next one.

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01:34:18.720 --> 01:35:15.640
<v Speaker 10>Data so everyone Combs has seen the ver sac about