Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right Podcast.
We are back with friend of the show and host
of The Sage Steel Show, Sage Steele. We've got you
back to talk about all the news of the day,
and I guess because it is such huge news of
the day, we should.
Speaker 2: Kick it off a little bit about Iran.
Speaker 1: But since we're recording this a few days ahead of
when it's going to be aired, and things are obviously
like in flux right now big time, the question for
you will just be how are you feeling in general
about what we're doing in Iran and this whole proposed deal?
How are you feeling about it.
Speaker 3: As of right now? You use the word proposed right?
Has everybody signed off on everything?
Speaker 1: I mean they say it's been like electronically signed, But
there's a wantalities I.
Speaker 2: Know everybody wants to see it.
Speaker 3: Yes, just like those white binders with alleged evidence from
the Epstein files.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got turnout.
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that I don't have faith that it's
going to get done, obviously. I think everybody with half
a brain understands the risks with Iran and how important
it was and has been to take any nuclear capabilities
out of their hands is obviously also been easier said
than done. I thought last spring of twenty twenty five,
you know, with the presidents at at that time, where
we have decimated them and it's over, it wasn't we
know that now and that's what has to happen.
Speaker 4: I do have faith that's going to happen.
Speaker 3: Here's my issue with it, and frankly with many things,
including tariffs. I mean, there's any number of things that
this administration has tackled and done a pretty good job
of tackling that I think just could have been handled
better out of the gate with clear communication and transparency
about what the goal is and what the good, bad.
Speaker 4: And ugly that could happen during the process.
Speaker 3: So then we have expectations, and then you don't have
the left doesn't have as much ammunition to come after
us when they say, you know, and they're kind of right, like, well,
you said it was a done deal.
Speaker 4: You said it was a done deal. He said it
was a done deal.
Speaker 3: So this is something that I think big picture, we
can be critical of the administration points and parts of it,
and also one hundred percent supportive too, like it isn't
either or y, and if we aren't honest about that part,
then we're just like them.
Speaker 4: So let's be honest about it.
Speaker 3: I don't like the way that it's been handled overall,
while understanding that it's a massive difficult thing. I mean,
there's a reason why no other US president has tried
to do this, along with many other things that we're
not going to mention right now, I think. But at
the end of the day, if you come out and
this is just like with parenting, I honestly believe this.
And so you have rules for your kids and expectations
for your kids, like you have to tell them what
they are or else they're not going to You're going
to be upset when you change your mind, you're pivot
this way or that way. Well wait, you said my
curfew was eleven PM. Now you're saying it's ten thirty.
Well why and what happened? It's really basic if you
just communicate, tell us with tariffs that it's going to
hurt for a while some of these small businesses.
Speaker 4: But here's the goal in the long run, here's how
we're going to get there.
Speaker 3: Communication is everything, And I don't know why it hasn't
happened better, while also understanding that there's certain things that
we cannot know for the scope of what the military
mission is for national security. I mean, there's things that
must remain confidential. There's got to be a happy medium.
So if this proposed deal actually gets signed and we
get to see it like it's official, we hear from
Iran as well, phenomenal, and I will be so grateful
when it happens.
Speaker 4: I just don't like the process that we've had to
go through.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said that, because do you feel
do you sense from your audience that when you do
offer polite criticism, real criticism, warranted criticism while you still
support the president and all of the people surrounding him.
Do you hear from your audience that you're like anti Trump?
Speaker 2: Do you get the show?
Speaker 1: You do because we get it and TDS.
Speaker 3: But you know what else I get people on the
far right who are like, screw you, I'm gonna unfollow you. You
don't understand what Trump has been through, blah blah blah.
And so it does come from both sides. And it's like, guys,
look at my body of work, look at my history here.
I mean, I put myself out there in twenty twenty four,
wearing the Maga hat and the Pink Women for Trump
jacket on the campaign road with Laura Trump and told
us the like, I'm all in, We're all on the
same side, right, And so I expect it from the
left because they will they are who they are. Like
when people tell you who they are, believe them. And
I've been told thousands of times who they are.
Speaker 4: And that's fine.
Speaker 3: I not everybody, but you know, the loud ones. When
it comes from the right, it's a little more frustrating
because then I think we're going to their level and
not actually being fair and you. And the key is
that it's constructive criticism, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And guess what.
Speaker 3: I still showed up at the White House last month
when Indiana football was being honored for winning the National
championship and I was still in the Oval office and
President Trump and I exchanged a couple pleasantries, and I
love him in a very healthy, normal way, right, And
so I just I can't stand up when people on
the right aren't honest about this stuff, like that's when
we lose credibility.
Speaker 2: Right, And I think that we're more of the critical
thinkers honestly we've shown that over how many years we've
been doing this. But the you know, the left, they
will just rally. They don't care, as evidence by Graham Platner. Right,
that's that's it's easy. He's a Nazi and they're like, okay,
well we'll support him no matter what. But yes, if
we choose to ask questions or I mean, people will
call it nitpicking in our comments section, y'all are nitpicking. Well,
I mean that's that's.
Speaker 3: What we do.
Speaker 4: We should do that.
Speaker 2: It's healthy to do that. I mean, we do that
within our families. We question each other and make sure
that we're holding each other account. But we do that
in our friendship. But I just think that it's a
healthy thing for us to do and as observatives.
Speaker 3: Too, Like I mean, we know we have seen four
years how Donald Trump reacts when people go against him,
and I get it.
Speaker 4: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Whatever, it's who he is and how he is and
it has it has worked. But I also, you know,
I was critical of some of his social media posts
of you know Rob Reiner, the former you know when
he died and said I'm glad he's dead or no,
that was the FBI, the former FBI director, right, what's
his name?
Speaker 2: I think he was. I think he was pretty abrasive
towards Rob Reiner, Muller.
Speaker 4: He was. He was with Reiner for sure, and I
criticized that.
Speaker 3: But with Muller when he said I'm glad he's dead,
oh gosh, you know, or the alleged you know, the
depiction of Jesus which they said was from a medical stop.
We know what that was, and it was, and then
Riley Gain criticized him for it, and he crushed Riley
where he.
Speaker 4: Knows who Riley is.
Speaker 3: He knows how incredibly supportive she has been and put
herself out there. So I think that's where I struggle sometimes,
where it's like it's just not necessary.
Speaker 4: But he just turned eighty years old. That man ain't
gonna change right now. You take the good filling with
the bad.
Speaker 3: But I do like, by the way, the way Riley
responded to that was beautiful, you know. I mean for
a twenty five year old woman, she's like, Okay, I
still support President Trump and I'm not going to resort
to the back and forth. I love what he's done
for women and trying to protect women in sports, and
we can separate, so you know, it.
Speaker 4: Is what it is.
Speaker 1: And he can too because I mean you've seen him
like not hold grudges with people that he has ripped
to shreds in the past.
Speaker 4: So you know what I mean, Like Donnie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when mum Donnie came in his office, he welcomed
him on in. And no, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4: And I don't know. The point is the good outweighs
the bad and.
Speaker 2: One you know, I agree, the good totally atwaighs the bad.
But we've got people like you know, Marjorie Taylor Green
and Thomas Massey who were conservative and now they're breaking
away and we were already I think we're so fractured
as conservatives. And then add that into the mix, and
I just wonder, what's going to happen with the midterms?
What do you think?
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, yeah, I'm nervous.
Speaker 3: But even if we weren't at war with Ron, even
if you know which affects gas prices in the economy
and jobs, et cetera.
Speaker 4: I mean, what does history say about the midterms?
Speaker 3: Every single time that the party that is not in
the White House is the one that takes it. I mean,
that's historically what it is, and so that's fully what
I'm expecting. I hope it's not as much of a
blood bath as people.
Speaker 4: Are people are predicting.
Speaker 3: But that's another reason why the timing of this war
ending is essential. It needs to be like yesterday, you know,
to try to recover a little bit, have time for
the economy, et cetera to recover. On the other hand,
I do think Democrats have continued to put their foot
in their verbial mouths, like every single day. When you
look at the celebration of America two fifty and you
know that this past weekend with the World Cup and
UFC and the NBA Finals and all the joy that
was brought really from across this country, with people from
across the world coming here and praising our country, and
then the left still hating. And you have the celebrities
who are out there and Julia Roberts and Bette Miller's
and Robert de Niro's of the world, and.
Speaker 4: How awful display. I mean, honestly, keep doing it because.
Speaker 2: It was a banger song. Honestly, it's my ringo now
so embarrassed.
Speaker 3: That's a great idea for a ringtow I know so,
but at the end of the day, like, no matter
what they do there, their base will always vote for them.
You know what, They'll say the same about us, Our
base will always vote for us. And and and it
makes sense. I I just, I just I guess I've
hoped that all Americans have kind of seen through the
hypocrisy of the left. The grand Platiner is a perfect example,
it really is. And the fact that they have just
continued to double and triple down on this guy, like
just let go if you allegedly have so many other
great candidates, like help yourselves here, get rid of them,
but they won't, And that that says a lot to me.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I know.
Speaker 2: But you know, but I think that that the whole
grand Platiner thing has made them forfeit their their ability
to be able to criticize us for anything ethical or moral.
You know, I mean, you can't. They just can't say
anything anymore because they are what don't they come.
Speaker 3: Back to They go back to every time. Yeah, but
your guys a rapist.
Speaker 4: So it's funny, right, he's protecting meedophiles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we went from racist because we've been
called racist forever. We've been called white supremacist. Now it's
pedophile protectors, and I'm like, what, what's next? Where do
you go from there? I have no idea, but they
always find something right and that is there, that's their
their narrative, and they all run with it. It's like
they get their marching orders and everybody and comments everywhere
are that's what they're saying now, and it's what do
you say? I mean, you can't even say anything to that, especially.
Speaker 3: When I mean, you know the number of times I've
been called a racist and a misogynist.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, and we saw something about because I
live in Texas. The Carmelo Anthony got that whole case
shook up Frisco, the surrounding area, all of America, honestly,
and so the way that Jasmine Crockett handled that, it
was we talked about on our show so gross her
comments just so it's like people don't even look at
other people as human beings anymore.
Speaker 3: I know that that's heartbreaking, and a young life was
lost at the hands of another young life, and for
people to make it about race, which again that's on
us though for being surprised at this point. We know
that that's what people do when they have no other argument,
is you immediately just just turn to that.
Speaker 4: It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: And you know, then to see some prominent people of
color come out and condemn other black people making it
about race or white Karen's white liberals doing it, that's
that's what we need. And it's funny. I was giving
a speech this past weekend, and you know, we talked
so much about Okay, I don't see color.
Speaker 4: Obviously, we all see it, Okay, most visually working right.
The one is we don't lead with it.
Speaker 3: And so when I see this Carmelo Anthony case, I'm
not leading with it. I'm seeing one kid dead and
another kid whose life is also essentially over in many ways,
and it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 4: And then you go to the racial aspect of it.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: Unless Carmelo Anthony tells us that that was part of
his motivation, then we can't assume any of it.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's heartbreaking across the board.
Speaker 3: But this is what they do when they're losing the argument.
Speaker 1: It's a tribal like I mean the way you know,
we played a lot of videos of some of the activists,
I guess or protesters that were waiting outside of the
courtroom who were being asked, you know, if the jury finds,
based on all of this overwhelming evidence, that Carmelo is guilty,
will you accept that. Nope, because we're going to stand
with our own And I'm like, that's so messed up,
Like that's so crazy, and it's so it's just not American,
Like it completely just sets aside the entire value of
the justice system just to focus on the skin color
of the accused like.
Speaker 2: That melanin crazy. It's so crazy, it's absurd.
Speaker 4: It's absurd.
Speaker 3: And do you think it would have happened if this
whole thing had been reversed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, come by.
Speaker 3: I don't think white people or say it was Puerto
Rica on black would the Puerto Rican you know groups
come and say, you know not, we're standing by them
because of filling the blank reasons, right, it tends to
only go in this direction, and that bothers me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's concerning. It's also concerning to see the people
who see it as a grift. They're they're like vultures.
They they swoop in and they're like, how can I
make money off of this? It's kind of like we're
seeing it happen with podcasters out there who are doing
it with you know, a grieving widow. And we're all
sorts of people who are out there who are just
waiting to find ways to grift off of things like this.
That's concerning to me too. Yes, it's gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where where what are your thoughts about podcast to
stand as it's been called recently, These these certain folks
that you know, we used to have a lot of
admiration for and and we're seeing just their entire perspectives
be clouded or jaded by this weird anti Israel sentiment
that is so it's just unimaginable to us how they
can have they can have turned so completely one to
eighty degrees from where they used to stand, and it's
it's bizarre, but it seems like that is the common
thread that then turns them into the same people who
would criticize a grieving widow. And it's like it's it's
like a phenomenon, and we're mystified by.
Speaker 2: It and disappointed, very disappointed in people.
Speaker 3: I think it's been a lot to try to absorb
because of how quickly it's happened. Yeah, and this is
where the journalist in me comes in where I am
not willing to throw any of them out and.
Speaker 4: Just say Okay, they're not on our side anymore. They're gone.
They're like I'm not.
Speaker 3: I think that we have to continue to listen, listen
to all of what they're saying, and I think there are.
Speaker 4: Some questions that are very fair to ask.
Speaker 3: I think what they choose to do from there, maybe
those are the things that we disagree with. They're why
behind it, which I don't know that we understand all
of it. I mean, listen, there are many things at
the beginning, especially that the questions that Candice Owens was
asking that I agree with, like this doesn't make sense.
There's still things, ladies, there's still things that don't make
sense that she has brought up. It doesn't mean I'm
all in with everything she says or supportive of everything
she says, but I think it's important to listen.
Speaker 4: To.
Speaker 3: Listen to some of the questions and then understand the
why behind it and not immediately be like, Okay, she's
just evil and she really hated Charlie and she definitely
hates Eric, and she just wants to make money, like.
Speaker 4: That's the easy way out. We've got to listen to
what she's saying.
Speaker 3: She is a very very smart woman period.
Speaker 4: Whether we love you, shavvy, brilliant.
Speaker 1: I would say she's savvy and savvyy, bright, thin, calculating.
Speaker 3: And we said all these things before she changed her opinion,
So she's still bright.
Speaker 4: And brilliant in all those ways even if we disagree, like.
Speaker 3: We can't change that part of it. It's just now
she has changed her opinions on things. But why, what
is the why behind? And so that's what that's moost
of the questions that we need to keep asking instead
of just saying she's insane, because that's what everybody else
is doing right now while she's just not. She's gone.
Is she on some things we can absolutely disagree? And
another thing is.
Speaker 4: Let's think about it because we don't know all the
answers yet.
Speaker 3: So then we are being very responsible as podcasters and
journalists by just completely shutting her down and assuming it.
Speaker 4: Tucker others. Again, I don't claim to understand it. I
do think this.
Speaker 3: You can be completely supportive of Israel and all of
the ways that I know the three of us are
and millions of people and ask questions and think that
they that there's some overstepping and that will Why are
we giving in here repeatedly, repeatedly?
Speaker 4: Like those are fair questions? It doesn't.
Speaker 3: It's just like Donald Trump, like I don't like the
way some of the things have happened, but I'm still
ninety five percent supportive. So with Israel, there's questions that
I have.
Speaker 4: I don't like some of the influence.
Speaker 3: I don't, but I absolutely am supportive of Israel and
its existence and.
Speaker 4: Overall their people. But if we don't ask questions, is.
Speaker 3: Dis go, you know, one hundred percent all in because
it's easier and safer.
Speaker 4: We don't want to be considered like some of these people.
That's irresponsible. I hear you. I think we.
Speaker 1: I think we tried really really hard to do that
for a time with some of the folks that are
considered podcast to stand right now. But with Candace in particular,
she has been so cruel, so unbelievably cruel, that it's
gone beyond just asking questions, which may be irrelevant to
begin with, and now it's just meet it's like the
most mean spirited, cruelty and unnecessary, and she's hanging blame
on people without evidence and it's irresponsible. So she's really
good at it.
Speaker 4: She's great. We can't deny that.
Speaker 1: She's unbelievably charismatic and like an absolute star on camera,
like there's no that's why she's so enormously popular. But she,
to me, she's become dangerous, like she's she's become reckless
and dangerous. And the way that her followers have glommed
on to some of her cruelty and made it exponentially
worse for the very people who are grieving Charlie's loss
the most. I can't.
Speaker 4: I just I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't be okay with it.
Speaker 3: No same page on that that that's the part that's
gross and cruel and really and totally unforgivable. And I
can't connect the dots as to how he was killed.
Speaker 2: And well, I'm I'm really I'm delighted that the case,
that the whole will be able to see the court room.
I'm glad that that's going to be public, the trial
will be public, and thank you God, because if it weren't,
it would be left up to the devices of people
in podcast.
Speaker 3: And then another, we don't trust, right, there's such a
loss of trust, right, now, so forget I think you
understand and you know me well enough like I have.
I am trained, you know, thirty years in media before
this podcasting craziness.
Speaker 4: Like to.
Speaker 3: Literally step back and listen to everybody. There's been a
lot of people through the years, just athletes, whatever that
I disagree with, don't want to listen to, don't like
their opinion, don't like the way they treat people all
the things and separate, compartmentalize and focus on the topic
at hand. So it sucks and it's not fun. Especially
you know, there's a long list of people that I
haven't enjoyed doing that with. But I do think it's
our jobs, and we lose credibility when we just completely
shut people off like I was shut off and you
guys have been by many people.
Speaker 2: And I think that that just that vacuum will go
away because I think people are looking for answers kind
of like you're talking about. They want answers to things.
I get it, it's human nature. And we also are
in a we're in an environment now, in a social
and political environment where people are quick to be conspiratorial,
you know, and they want so bad to make a conspiracy.
Everything is a conspiracy. Not everything is. Sometimes things are
just the way they are. And so that's why I'm
glad that the trial will hopefully start soon. We'll be
able to see it, We be able to make decisions
based and choices and seeing things the way we want
to see them, and that will be an individual thing.
It won't be so you know, people won't be influenced
so much by.
Speaker 3: It about podcast to Stand, which I hadn't heard.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love it because there's so much money.
Speaker 4: To be made.
Speaker 3: Because these people are making so much money, that also
brings up the questions, the questions that we absolutely should be.
Speaker 4: Asking, and that's why this is, this is so confusing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of money.
Speaker 1: When you were talking, because we just briefly sort of
threw Graham Platner's name out of there out there when
we were talking about just the hypocrisy on the left,
and we mentioned on our show earlier this week just
about this whole outrage that has come out of that fighter,
that UFC fighter making the comment about Michelle Obama being
a dude, and the reaction has been so over the top,
like the demands for Trump to denounce him and for
you know, all these folks on the left are acting
like it's the literal worst thing they've ever heard ever,
while they are promoting Graham Platner and all of his
you know, all of the things that he has done
so terribly, horribly wrong as a politician who actually has
the power of influencing what happens in this country to
all of us, whereas this fighter is just like, you know,
it's just a fighter, like he doesn't influence anything. And
so I wonder, because I know you recently had it
back and forth with Stephen A. Smith about the morality
of voting for Trump, Like he was talking, he was
talking to you about how can you do like, how
could you vote for somebody so terrible? And so I'm
just wondering if you can fill us in more on
that conversation, especially in light of those items, the Platner thing,
the UFC fight, voting for Trump, and the morality and
character of all of these people.
Speaker 3: Well, gosh, the morality bar has fallen so low, you know.
Speaker 4: Which over it it is, what it is, It's so sad.
Speaker 3: Listen, I watch the UFC fighter hadn't said that it's
just not necessary.
Speaker 4: It's just not necessary. You can think it. I mean,
there's a lot of people who talk.
Speaker 3: About that first he just I don't know how many
people have done it on that stage, So it's just
not necessary. I don't think the president should denounce it,
Absolutely not, and we know that he won't.
Speaker 4: And I oh, by the way.
Speaker 3: Has Barack Obama or Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or
any of the politicians on the left, have they denounced
anyone calling Donald Trump a nazi or a racist or
a pedophile or a misogynist or all of those things.
I know because they've actually been Many of them have
been part of it, part of it, part of that
kind of speech.
Speaker 4: So you can't pick and choose.
Speaker 3: It's just faux outrage because it's something that is, you know,
not something they're used to hearing from the right nearly
as much. Actually, if you think about it, the name
calling really comes from one direction. So I don't have
an issue with that. It's something that is going to
continue to be talked about and whatever. I feel like
we have more important things to worry about. If that's
what they want to hang on to to try to
deflect from Graham Platner, maybe that's one reason why Steven
a conversation, you know. Yeah, you guys are very busy,
But it was like two hours and thirty minutes, and
there was a lot of great conversation and back and forth.
Speaker 4: And I'm so grateful.
Speaker 3: I've known him for almost twenty years, you know, but
we've never had that kind of conversation, certainly recorded, and
not at all since I left the ESPN in two
and a half years ago.
Speaker 4: So it was it was emotional.
Speaker 3: And controversial and hysterical, like I laughed so much and
we both cried too, Like there was all emotions. Yeah,
I'd love it if you watched a little bit more
of it, because I don't want that to be taken
out of context.
Speaker 4: This is after I gave him crap.
Speaker 3: For voting for Kamala Harris despite knowing that she wasn't qualified,
literally knowing that she had one hundred and seven days
and they just shoved her in there. And he had
talked to our friend Dave Rubin a couple of months
prior and maybe it was even a year ago, and
Dave asked him he voted for was like, I voted
for Kamala and why because I don't like the way
Donald Trump talks and tweets, and so I just couldn't
do it. And that's why, Kamala, And that's that's where
the conversation began, is.
Speaker 4: Me crushing him for that and.
Speaker 3: Like that's so stupid and it's actually irresponsible, Like it's
irresponsible to do that based on your feelings. The facts
are what is he inappropriate? And does he make people
uncomfortable with ill times and sometimes ill worded tweets and
post truth social right, yes, and yeah, like what are
the policies? What is best for America? There's no way
the border would have been touched. I am scared to
death to think about how this conflict in the Middle
East would have been handled by her, Like this would
have been an absolute disaster deep down.
Speaker 4: They all know it. Stephen A knows it. And I
think he put up at that time to any voter
for her anyway. So that's where it started.
Speaker 3: And then he's like, Okay, fine, and I can say
this to you and that's what you're referring to about
well in these immoralities this and that, and I'm like
uh huh uh huh, and I don't care because more
important to me than my feelings is the health over
all of our country and well being and safety, which
to me, the.
Speaker 4: Biggest issue was the border.
Speaker 3: Like absolutely the domino effect that so many people were
on the left refused to acknowledge how it was affecting
every aspect of our society. And to see how quickly
he's been able to do that and shut it down,
like it's absolutely incredible, and he's the only one that
was willing. Others could have they chose not to be
the only one that was wanting to do it. So
for me that was huge. Again, the conflict's Middle East, Ukraine.
Nobody talks about Ukraine now right, and all the billions
that we were sending over there, you know, as Biden
wrote checks every month. So it's about the issues. And
so that's why he came back at me with well
you did this, and guess what, like it's a very
fair important.
Speaker 4: Conversation to have and guess what.
Speaker 3: At the end, we hug and we had another glass
of wine with his people, with my husband, and it
was it was great. That's what I love and that's
what I desire to do on my show, to do
with you, to do with people who think differently, is
to have the conversation and to understand and there then
like we can completely disagree. But one thing I always
say to my kids and anyone else who will listen,
our opinions are based on our experiences. Yes, and steven
A's experience was very different from mine. I mean, he
and I talked and this was part of my podcast
with him about twenty twelve, the twenty twelve election and
how torn he was because he wasn't comfortable fully voting
for Barack Obama again, but to not vote for a Democrat,
to vote for a Republican as a black man from
New York City with four sisters, and like that's a
big deal.
Speaker 1: That was very w That's so surprising to me that
that mattered to him, because he seems like such a
I don't care, I don't care.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but listen.
Speaker 3: It's also and on a different level certainly, like I
remember family members that I have My mom's white, my
dad's black, and so on the black side, who voted
for Barack Obama the first time, not necessarily the second time,
solely because of race and skin color, And it made
me sick and I was like, wait, that's not how
we were raised as a Steel family. Is to start with,
don't lead with color, right, It's not about that. And
I had to understand that I was never in the
shoes of people on the steel side who.
Speaker 4: Had lived through terrible, terrible racism.
Speaker 3: My grandmother was born in nineteen twenty think about what
she was and more importantly, was not allowed to do
as a black woman in night in the nineteen twenties, thirties, forties.
So for her to see a man that looked like
her potentially be president United States.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't live that.
Speaker 3: So I was appointed that this is where it began.
But that's also her right. So when we take the
time to understand people's why, even if we disagree, I
think we can lead with more kindness and not as
much vitriol when we think they're crazy both.
Speaker 2: I love that because it's kind of like how we
used to live in the eighties and nineties, and we
always talk about how we don't think we're ever going
to get back to that. So it's nice that your
show is one of those places where you want to
get back to that.
Speaker 3: But listen what it'll come on either, because I'm because
you know, talking to you talking to somebody that well,
she's a right wing nut.
Speaker 4: Job, so we're not going to go on her.
Speaker 3: And even people who do agree with some of the
things that we're saying are still afraid. And I understand
the fear. I mean, you guys understand the fear. What
happens when you speak up.
Speaker 4: It isn't just.
Speaker 3: Jobs and financial implications, it's friendships and family members and
people literally cut you out of their lives. So it
is risky. The fear is real. But we just I
mean I all of us. We had to make a
choice at some point, you know, do we stay silent
because it's easier and more comfortable, or do we speak
up but try to do it in a more kind
way than they do.
Speaker 4: So does Steven A regret his vote for Kamala.
Speaker 3: Regret is a strong word.
Speaker 2: That he would never use.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think he said that.
Speaker 3: I think he knows that we're very fortunate that she
did not win.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I listened.
Speaker 1: The recognition of that is enough, I think, because he
does bullet you guys.
Speaker 3: But then you saw last week where President Trump called him,
you know, stupid with a low IQ. So maybe it
was to love and common Now, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, but you know, it looks like he's going
to have another chance if he wants to vote for so. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like we've talked about that before too,
where he'll say things about Trump, says up about people,
and you know what, five months later they're best friends.
Look at radio.
Speaker 1: Which that's a great question. Are you have you picked
a horse for twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 2: Marco?
Speaker 4: JD?
Speaker 1: Do you have a preference?
Speaker 3: I mean, I would be shocked if it weren't JD.
But I love a JD Marco ticket.
Speaker 4: You know, do you think they.
Speaker 2: Would be the time together? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 2: How do you think that they could run together?
Speaker 3: I do? I think they could because they love this country.
Speaker 2: How how do they run together?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: Who would be in the alpha?
Speaker 4: I think JD?
Speaker 3: I mean, just for JD to not be the alpha
after being you know, vice president current.
Speaker 4: I think that'd be tough. I don't know. Could they
both do it? Could we like have little president?
Speaker 3: It would be amazing, right, we could come up with
some new pronouns for that.
Speaker 4: The left would like.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can have them as co presidents and DeSantis
is the vice president. Wouldn't that be great?
Speaker 3: Oh? My God, that would be you know, back before
Tulsi stepped away. And I love her. She's a dear friend.
I'm so she's right where she is supposed to be.
She is, as you know, such a faithful woman morals
and values, and we continue to pray for her.
Speaker 4: In Abraham.
Speaker 3: I did think that would be wonderful to see her
as a vice president.
Speaker 4: Certainly she ran for president a few.
Speaker 3: Years back, and you know that's not going to happen now,
but I listen, I love right now that we have
so many options.
Speaker 4: Look at the left, who do they have? Listen? They
still well and we can't even go there. Actually, I
take that back, because it doesn't matter if they're unqualified
or unfit. Look what we went through in twenty twenty four. Yeah,
it just doesn't matter. And they will think it happen.
Speaker 3: And they've always been really, really good when it comes
crunch time with campaigns and literally the lowest hanging fruit,
whether it's you know, policies, like things that they say
about us, whatever, well they're this and they're.
Speaker 4: That Maga well and people believe them. All Maga people
are Nazis and so therefore.
Speaker 3: They can fool their voters. So much easier than we then.
Speaker 4: We can, but I don't think we try to do
that as much. We can never underestimate them because they're
to come up with a vengeance.
Speaker 2: Oh they rally, Yeah, rally. They're super loyal to one another.
They rally and they get out and they vote, which
is what we're constantly killing our people. Get off your
butt and go vote, please, because that's that's what it's
going to come.
Speaker 3: But we also know that when people go out and vote,
then it ends up like California, And I think it's so.
Did you see the video that Benny Johnson posted right
before their recent election when he, you know, was doing
some investigating and he found an address in Los Angele
was yes, yeah, we're voters registered as Democrats. It was
a porter potties in the middle of an abandoned baseball field.
So and then the fact that it takes weeks and weeks.
So this is why, gosh, the voter idea, it's such
a basic concept, right, and this is why we have
to keep pushing and realizing that we've like, we've got
to continue to implore people to get out there. But
the problem is trust, Like I understand it. For the
hundreds of thousands of people who voted Republican in California.
Speaker 4: Those belts who knows that.
Speaker 2: And they're like, what does it matter? Doesn't it doesn't matter?
So that you can understand, Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Can understand that level of disillusionment when you had the
whole system is cropped. My vote isn't going to get
counted anyway.
Speaker 3: I mean in Connecticut for seventeen years, and I remember
I knew I had no shot and and it's like,
but we still go and we do it the day
of and we stand in line, and we take our
care to experience what that is and standing in line,
and that it's an inconvenance, like get over yourselves.
Speaker 4: This is what people die for. Line. I do think
it should be a national holiday. Need no excuses. There's
other holidays that we can get rid of.
Speaker 3: I think, yes, to make this because of the importance
of it for the future of our country period.
Speaker 1: Yes see, yes, Well that's a great way to conclude
our chat with you. It's always so great to talk
to you stage. Where can people see your show?
Speaker 3: Thank you for asking Sage Steel Show, YouTube and Spotify,
all the platforms wherever you find your podcasts and coming
up soon an announcement about another show that I'm launching.
Speaker 4: It is going to be completely upset of what I'm
doing and hysterical. I'll just say that. Really.
Speaker 2: Oh that's wonderful.
Speaker 3: Okay, take a look Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, all the places. Please,
but listen, I have always from day one, loved and
respect to what you lead are doing and the strength
that you've had to continue no matter what.
Speaker 4: So thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: We appreciate that. Thank you, sir, Yes, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: You, and we look forward to having you back.