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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity

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<v Speaker 1>with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, You've got the

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<v Speaker 1>privilege of talking to Mark today. Mark's an individual that

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<v Speaker 1>got connected to through YouTube and then he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>share a few interesting things that have happened through his

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<v Speaker 1>life in different locations. So Mark, welcome to the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going man, Good Jeremiah, how you doing doing great?

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<v Speaker 1>Always a good night when I'm able to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>someone about their Bigfoot interactions and learn some stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy that and give you a platform to share

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to you. So you know, Mark, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you've already said before that we've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ground to cover, So you know, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and give the mic over to you, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see where we go from here.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Okay, But like I said, you interject any time

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<v Speaker 2>you like, Yes, sir, Yeah, all right. I got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stories. Well, the main reason I had called

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<v Speaker 2>this place wasn't too or when I say this place,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in your podcast. I've been listening to you for

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<v Speaker 2>a while, and I've been listening to podcasts sasquatch podcasts

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<v Speaker 2>for a good almost ten years now, and lately I've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten board with a lot of the other ones before

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<v Speaker 2>I came across yours, and some recently it's like they'll

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<v Speaker 2>show a picture of a sasquatch with a monkey nose,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will not look at those at all. These

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<v Speaker 2>things have a hooded nose, they don't have a monkey nose.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it's got a monkey nose, go to some

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<v Speaker 2>other podcast and come to Jeremiah, because he's got pictures

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<v Speaker 2>of him. They kind of look right. So I can

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<v Speaker 2>agree with.

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<v Speaker 1>That, thank you. I try.

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<v Speaker 2>But the main reason I hear I've heard a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I allowed to say the number? Sure? Yeah, go

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<v Speaker 2>right ahead, Okay, episode six sixty there was this lady

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<v Speaker 2>on and you know, I don't call any This is

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<v Speaker 2>the first podcast I've ever talked to or even emailed.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, she was so upset about this place where

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<v Speaker 2>I used to run around when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>that she got walked out of the Garden of the

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<v Speaker 2>Gods since she was just terrified, and the whole episode

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<v Speaker 2>she couldn't stop being terrified.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought, you know, that's happened to me my

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<v Speaker 3>entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>I moved there when I was a kid, when I

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<v Speaker 2>was about fourteen fifteen years old, with.

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<v Speaker 3>My father and the family what.

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<v Speaker 2>Little he had left, and we lived right at the

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<v Speaker 2>edge of that not guarded gods, but in that area.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't say where. But they're just just all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of experiences. But when I was a kid, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that. What I knew about sasquatches was I knew

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<v Speaker 2>about the Patterson Gimlin film and at the time when

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, I thought, well, that's the last

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<v Speaker 2>crazy wild animal.

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<v Speaker 3>They're about to go excinct, And yeah, makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>They're out west down in California somewhere, But there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way that they're still here, just like there's no bears,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no saberty tigers and such. But anyway, I used

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<v Speaker 2>to run around the woods when I was a kid

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<v Speaker 2>because there was nothing better to do, and so many

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<v Speaker 2>times I just can't count them. They got to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where I just stopped paying attention that I heard

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<v Speaker 2>the same sounds that she heard, and they just follow

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<v Speaker 2>you out And I have stopped and turned around and yelled.

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<v Speaker 3>At something that's not there. It's like, who are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you following me?

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<v Speaker 2>I've screamed that out loud on my way home because

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<v Speaker 2>I used to do, like, I don't know, five six

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess I was entertainment for them because I

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<v Speaker 2>used to just run down there and before parkour was

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. The further down the creek bed you go

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger the rocks, kid, and you have to jump,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had it. It was like playing hopscotch for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess on a grander scale, and I would jump

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<v Speaker 2>from one to the other and I'd get to the

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<v Speaker 2>end and I'm just out of breath, and it's about

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<v Speaker 2>a mile and a half long. And then when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>walking back, and this is on an easy day, just

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm out playing, and then on my walk back,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm still worn out. But then by the

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<v Speaker 2>time we get about I don't know, half mile from

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<v Speaker 2>home or a quarter or three quarters a mile from home.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear all these leaves just swish, wish wish.

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<v Speaker 2>Once I get into the leaves, after I get out

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<v Speaker 2>of the canyon, and I get in the leaves, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hear all this. And I even tried to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pretend you're going to take a step and down, and

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<v Speaker 2>caught them a couple of times doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like they put their foot down.

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<v Speaker 2>But when there's no such thing as a sounsquatch and

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<v Speaker 2>you have no answer for that, you still have to

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<v Speaker 2>go about your merry way. And it's like, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just shrug my shoulders. Same thing with uh tree knox.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard so many treeochs in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I just ignore them now I don't even pay attention

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<v Speaker 3>to them anymore. And well, I learned about a tree kock.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people think that's a warning I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a warning. I think that is well kind

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<v Speaker 2>of an invitation. They let you know. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>let you know that they know that you're there, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to pay attention, and you're supposed to not respond,

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<v Speaker 2>but to be aware, and they know what you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to respond, whether you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>go tear down a tree and make yourself a baseball

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<v Speaker 2>bat hit a tree with it to respond. They just

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<v Speaker 2>want you to know that there. And I think it

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<v Speaker 2>irritates them that the people that walk by and don't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes them angry. They're not looking for attention necessarily,

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<v Speaker 2>but you need to know as you walk past this

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<v Speaker 2>point there's a possibility of danger. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 2>they're all killers. Some are, some aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark, Can you take a minute. I'm just really curious

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<v Speaker 1>if if someone was to ask you what you think

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<v Speaker 1>bigfoot is, how do you describe what they are?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what it isn't okay, it's not a gigantopithecus.

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<v Speaker 3>The amount of things that that animal.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have to do. Number One, they've only found a

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<v Speaker 2>tooth and part of a jaw bone, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>built a beast around it somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just not good enough for me. I need more evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>And from what they found, they said he ate bamboo

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, you know, just a big bamboo eater.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty hard for an animal to switch from being

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<v Speaker 2>just a herbivore to go on straight to straight meat

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<v Speaker 2>like supposedly is hospital. Well, they're an omnivore. They'll eat anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's really difficult in the amount of time that

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<v Speaker 2>it takes for something to evolve, if that exists, even

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<v Speaker 2>to get all the way across the bearing straight from China,

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<v Speaker 2>to get over to the Rocky Mountains and all that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff or whatever in Alaska and the Yukon, and turn

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<v Speaker 2>yourself to the sas cross that is now planting trees

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<v Speaker 2>upside down with the roots sticking up in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really far stretch from me. So I know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that. There's a lot of stories I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>about you know, DNA, and you know people have gathered

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<v Speaker 2>DNA on these things, but they've traced one side.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know enough about it. I'm not an expert.

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<v Speaker 2>They've traced one side, and I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>tied to us, and then there's another and then the

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<v Speaker 2>other side. It's like it's a it's nothing on the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nothing that we've had any experience with. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>know this particular DNA. So I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 2>think about that. I don't know if everybody knows and

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<v Speaker 2>it's shut down. You know, there's a lot of theories

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<v Speaker 2>out there. They say they're they're nephelin, and that's a

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<v Speaker 2>possibility after what I've seen of these things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen nothing like what I saw, and anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, maybe if it has anything, maybe something

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<v Speaker 2>has something to do with some kind of religion or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's you know, half the world is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>shut that down and the other half is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>promote the other. So I don't think we're ever gonna

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<v Speaker 2>find out unless they rise up. I can't imagine fifty

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<v Speaker 2>of these guys grouping together and then start running their neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 2>That would just be a bad thing what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're not a monkey. I know they're not a monkey.

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<v Speaker 2>They sound like a monkey, they act like a monkey sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got monkey stories because they did monkey things

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<v Speaker 2>to me. But they're still not a monkey. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>they are a frightful thing. But I didn't know it

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<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid. When I was younger, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just walk around the duck's back. I had bigger and

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<v Speaker 2>better things do. One thing I didn't do is like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people on podcasts say there they

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<v Speaker 2>hunt a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>They've hunted all their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been out in the woods, they've shot things of

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff, And like, I never did that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was always quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried, Like when I was telling you about running

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<v Speaker 2>down that creek, I was trying to be as quiet

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<v Speaker 2>as I possibly could. But I never saw many animals.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a lot of deers walk up on me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've had a lot of wild animal experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I just I wasn't a hunter. People

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<v Speaker 2>ask me, and I know how to people ask me.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you hunt? Yeah, when when I'm hungry do you fish?

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<v Speaker 2>I fish when when I'm hungry. That's the only time

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<v Speaker 2>I hunt fish. But I'm very good at it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't go out and make you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't throw a bunch of orange on and sit in

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<v Speaker 2>the top of a tree about twenty feet high I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't. I'm not interested in any of that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been able to feed myself when I need it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, you know they're grocery stores too. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not an animal activists. I don't believe in killing these things,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I think they're out there for a reason,

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<v Speaker 2>and that reason is that things, you know, times get tough,

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<v Speaker 2>There'll be plenty of food out there for me. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to be go out there killing everything every

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<v Speaker 2>year and there's six or seven less than there was

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<v Speaker 2>before hunting season. I just don't do it because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not that hungry. Huh So anyway, and so far as

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<v Speaker 2>what you're asked me, I'll try to get back on

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<v Speaker 3>They're not a monkey.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a secret, but somebody knows the end of that

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<v Speaker 2>secret because they're not telling us they You can't talk

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody that you know, they'll make you look I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a lot of people that I've tried to

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<v Speaker 2>tell this to. No I would call them. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>normal people thought would be willing to hear this part

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<v Speaker 2>of what I saw or experienced, and they'll shut you

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<v Speaker 2>down immediately, make you look like a fool. They could

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<v Speaker 2>be a friend of yours and they'll do it. I've

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<v Speaker 2>had plenty of those do it. And it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never speak to you again kind of thing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like they don't even want you to bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Up in ILLINOII, no one goes out and runs around

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<v Speaker 2>the woods like I did.

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<v Speaker 3>No One, I mean nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody went to school with I was up there for

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<v Speaker 2>a good five years before I joined the Navy. I

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<v Speaker 2>so I had to join the military.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought I was going to be a Navy

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<v Speaker 2>seal and.

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<v Speaker 3>Blah blah lah. Next thing, I know them in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyhow, everybody up there, all the people had lived there,

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<v Speaker 2>all the lives. Like I said, I only moved there

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<v Speaker 2>when I was like fourteen fifteen years old. Probably visited

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<v Speaker 2>once when I was twelve or thirteen. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>a hill in a hollow, in a hollow on a hill,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of and I had this house.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody had built it. I bought it for a song.

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<v Speaker 2>I was married, but uh, my dogs were sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>the porch middle of kind of kind of in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of nowhere. You got neighbors, but you can't see

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<v Speaker 2>or hear them. So I'm sitting on the couch watching

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<v Speaker 2>TV and my and my door's always open. So the

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<v Speaker 2>dogs just they just started barking. Hair on their back

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<v Speaker 2>came up because they were just hanging out on the porch,

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<v Speaker 2>and they ran straight in the house and ran straight

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<v Speaker 2>to the bedroom, which they never do, or are allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to do. They come in the house, but they're just

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to be sleeping in the bed and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyhow, I thought that was odd.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going and they're barking all the way inside the house.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing? I mean, something that never happens.

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of get up. I look around the

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<v Speaker 2>corner where they went. They're nowhere to be seen. They're

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<v Speaker 2>hiding under the bed or something. So I got to

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<v Speaker 2>the fORCH and I got like a thirty five white

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<v Speaker 2>light on my porch, and I'm looking around, looking around,

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<v Speaker 2>and I looked down and I see the eye shine

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<v Speaker 2>and I had this big brush pile where I'd cut

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<v Speaker 2>all these shrubs away. I'd just gotten I had gotten

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<v Speaker 2>back from Florida, and the shrubs crew to like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>feet tall. You know, they're kind of shrubs you if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't trim, and they're going to go nuts. So

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<v Speaker 2>i'd cut all those out, and I made this big

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<v Speaker 2>brush pile down the hill, not you know, ten fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>feet off the porch, and so I see these two

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<v Speaker 2>red eyes coming through there. And the first thing I

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<v Speaker 2>thought was, well, I've never seen red eye shine in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. I don't know what this is. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm standing there waiting for it to come through, because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously that's what my dogs were barking at.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a coon, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never known a dog run from the coon. So

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<v Speaker 2>all these thoughts are going through my at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>all at the same time. So I was like, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>come through, come through. It looked like coming towards me,

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<v Speaker 2>coming towards me, coming towards me, and it was an

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<v Speaker 2>optical illusion. Then I realized, I'm not looking at something

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<v Speaker 2>coming through this brush pile. I'm looking at something that's

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<v Speaker 2>on the opposite side of the brush pile. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>can see through that and this thing's looking right at me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I want to describe the eyeshine, It's not eyeshine.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see inside the scull of these things. No

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<v Speaker 2>one's going to believe this, and I don't care. I

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<v Speaker 2>know what I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like if you've got a little camp fire

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, and the coals or after all

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<v Speaker 2>the woods burnt down, and you see all the coals

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<v Speaker 2>and it's swirling around in the same colors.

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<v Speaker 3>It's inside their head, it's in their eyes, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at you with that. I'm going, what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that? And I even said that, I said

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing? I said what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>And this thing took one step towards me again, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was so black you couldn't see the body. All

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<v Speaker 2>you could see was its eyes. It was so black out.

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<v Speaker 2>There was overcast guys, that night. It wasn't raining. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just overcast, you know, no starlight, no nothing. All

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<v Speaker 2>I had was that stupid light which didn't shine into

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<v Speaker 2>the forest far enough to light up anything. And this

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<v Speaker 2>thing just kind of it gave me and it looked autistic.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an autistic cousin, and I know what that

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<v Speaker 2>looked looked like, and it looked autistic, and it looked

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<v Speaker 2>off to its right, which was to my left. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a spring down the hill from there, water spring,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of dry at the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it just came up to get.

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<v Speaker 3>A drink of water.

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<v Speaker 2>The dogs barked at it and came up and started

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<v Speaker 2>to come up to the porch by the.

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<v Speaker 3>Time I went out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I saw those eyes and it's not that

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like a red light, you know, not like

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<v Speaker 2>a flashlight. There are things swirling inside there, just like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like spirals. It was amazing, but I still shrugged

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<v Speaker 2>that off. I didn't know what it was. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what to call it. I wasn't into bigfoot. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of was, you know. I was still had the

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<v Speaker 2>opinions like boy, every place I went, because I used

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<v Speaker 2>to ride a horse from there, a couple of miles

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<v Speaker 2>from the house, just a feeder, you know, every day

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<v Speaker 2>or so, you know, single back or a single rain

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<v Speaker 2>bare back. I'm kind of an Indian and anyhow, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>during that time, that was in the nineties, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that was in the nineties when that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and anyhow, it just turned its head and walked away.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked in the house, sat down. I got the

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<v Speaker 2>dogs out of the bedroom. I had to go back

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<v Speaker 2>there and calm in down, tell them everything was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>They finally came back out, but they wouldn't go back

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<v Speaker 2>out on the porch. They stayed. They stated that they

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<v Speaker 2>stayed in the living room and watched TV. They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>interested in going out there anymore. And I wasn't afraid.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't scare me. I just thought, well, I'll figure this

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<v Speaker 2>out later, because you know, I spotlighted a lot of animals,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know what color eyes are, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>just to me, was just an animal I hadn't spotlighted

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<v Speaker 2>yet or seen, and I'll figure it out later. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't afraid. It wasn't scared. But now thinking back, see

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<v Speaker 2>this thing was about eight feet tall because where it

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<v Speaker 2>was shining through this breast pile was a straight down

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<v Speaker 2>slope that just like you can't walk down it. If

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<v Speaker 2>you get over that edge, you're going to be on

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<v Speaker 2>a slide. You're just going to slide down in the mud.

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<v Speaker 2>So how this thing had walked up to me through

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<v Speaker 2>that brush pile. It was standing, I mean ten feet

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<v Speaker 2>down nine ten feet down, and its eyes, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>The level of its eyes didn't climb higher.

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<v Speaker 2>It just kind of stayed straight and once it got

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<v Speaker 2>to a certain point it stopped. And when I asked,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing? It turned and walked away. It

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of like an It wasn't apologetic. Look, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sorry, I just came to get a drink

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<v Speaker 2>of water. You know, this is what I've come up

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<v Speaker 2>with later on in life, but I didn't understand at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and I just went about my business.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark, Do you feel like it understood you when you

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<v Speaker 1>said that to it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they do it now to me to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>I just went back to those places I was telling

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<v Speaker 2>you about when I was a kid, just a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago or a year ago. I'm a mushroom

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<v Speaker 2>hunter and extraordinary kind of not real successful at it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I went back to the same place

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<v Speaker 2>just a year or two years, and they know who

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<v Speaker 2>I am. They dropped off a bobcat. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>put a bobcat back, and there were two coons, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was more wildlife than I'd seen in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of years when I was running out there. That was

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<v Speaker 2>one other thing. When I was running around, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be as quiet as I possibly can. I was

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<v Speaker 2>practicing on being as quiet as I possibly could. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not out there making a bunch of racket, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was always my goal. I used to go out walking

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<v Speaker 2>to friends of mine and I wouldn't make it a quarter

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<v Speaker 2>mile and I turned around take them back home because

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<v Speaker 2>they can't shut their mouths. I have a rule of like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't speak. Don't talk when you're out here in the

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<v Speaker 2>woods with me. You're not allowed to speak because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hunting anything. Just don't say a word. Don't say there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to talk. I'm in about with something and nothing

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<v Speaker 2>serious happened, so there's no reason for you to say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think they have a little respect for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And they watched me do that as a child. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just run down there one day and have this

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<v Speaker 2>little exercise. I used to do that constantly because there's nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely nothing to do there.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>When turned me into a wild animal.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, okay, yeah yeah, yeh yeah, when they left

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<v Speaker 1>the bobcat and the other animals for you, what physical

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<v Speaker 1>state were those animals left.

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<v Speaker 3>In well Wed.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and my girlfriend had walked down the creek and like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she knows not to talk, and let's don't

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<v Speaker 2>take anybody take offense to that. She's like, she's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like me. So, yeah, I were walking down there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being careful with her, so I'm having to concentrate

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<v Speaker 2>on making sure she's okay because it's not an environment

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<v Speaker 2>she's used to. Right, We're not thundering down the creek,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, look at.

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<v Speaker 3>This, look at that. Hey, this is what I used.

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<v Speaker 2>To do here. I wasn't doing that. We're being quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just walking down there, walking slow. She knows the

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<v Speaker 2>history of place, you know, so she was fully aware,

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<v Speaker 2>no surprise to her. But surprisingly enough she managed to

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<v Speaker 2>spraining her ankle and so we sat down to rest.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hadn't gotten to I was just maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>quarter a mile away from my adjective because there's something

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<v Speaker 2>really a bunch of cool stuff at the end. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking down the creek, looking down the creek, and

420
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<v Speaker 2>we had two dogs with us, so my dog had

421
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<v Speaker 2>gone to the top. So you're in kind of like

422
00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:44.519
<v Speaker 2>a little miniature canyon. The woods are straight up and down,

423
00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:47.200
<v Speaker 2>not straight up and down. But you don't want to

424
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<v Speaker 2>get up there and try to climb out of that

425
00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:51.799
<v Speaker 2>creek bed. The creek bed is essentially your road and

426
00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.480
<v Speaker 2>your highway. You're not going to wander around anywhere other

427
00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:59.039
<v Speaker 2>than the creek bed, but in places. So this dog

428
00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:02.759
<v Speaker 2>comes down with what looks like from off the top

429
00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>of the hill behind me. We had sat down to

430
00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:07.599
<v Speaker 2>rest and decide we're going to turn around get out

431
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:11.279
<v Speaker 2>of there, and uh, my dog comes down the hill

432
00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:14.440
<v Speaker 2>with something in his mouth. It looks like a.

433
00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Squirrel, and I thought, oh, geez, don't kill the squirrel.

434
00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:18.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have to. I don't want to

435
00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.319
<v Speaker 2>deal with no squirrel today, you know, just don't do it.

436
00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.279
<v Speaker 2>So I go over there. I said no, no, no, no, no,

437
00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:26.480
<v Speaker 2>because I'm thinking she's getting ready choump it. But she

438
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.599
<v Speaker 2>wasn't being motherly about it. She had found a bob

439
00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:34.599
<v Speaker 2>cat kitten, brought it down to the bottom and set

440
00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:35.960
<v Speaker 2>it down before he even got there.

441
00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:37.839
<v Speaker 3>You know, she's like looking at her what is this?

442
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:41.720
<v Speaker 2>So I could go and tell you how I thought

443
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:44.960
<v Speaker 2>that may have happened, but it was just weird, weird,

444
00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:46.799
<v Speaker 2>And so I pick up this cat, and I go,

445
00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:47.640
<v Speaker 2>what is going on?

446
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:50.039
<v Speaker 4>Why is there a cat out here in the middle

447
00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:53.440
<v Speaker 4>of nowhere? A straight cat, straight kitten? Why is that?

448
00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:55.799
<v Speaker 4>I started looking at it? Well, then I found out

449
00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.599
<v Speaker 4>it's a female. It turnovers on the back, I say,

450
00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:02.680
<v Speaker 4>screaming and raising and all kinds of cane and it's

451
00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:05.960
<v Speaker 4>just like rolling it over, and I'm like, what kind

452
00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:06.720
<v Speaker 4>of cat is this?

453
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.359
<v Speaker 3>It's a bobcat? Oh no, Now what am I going

454
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:10.640
<v Speaker 3>to do?

455
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.519
<v Speaker 2>If I got caught this bobcat? I might go to

456
00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:15.640
<v Speaker 2>jail or get a fine or something like that. Now

457
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I've got a bobcat that's got no mother. What do

458
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I do? Do? I take it home, trying to nurse

459
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:21.799
<v Speaker 2>it back to health, which I've not had much luck

460
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:25.759
<v Speaker 2>with with wild animals. So I put it. I took it,

461
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:27.759
<v Speaker 2>climbed up the hill with it, and it was kind

462
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:31.839
<v Speaker 2>of like a stair step thing where water would rush

463
00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:33.799
<v Speaker 2>down through there and it washed all the dirt out.

464
00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:37.440
<v Speaker 2>So now you're walking up technically steps of you know,

465
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:39.640
<v Speaker 2>the stones or.

466
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Whatever geologic thing is underneath the dirt.

467
00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:47.279
<v Speaker 2>So I'm climbing up this thing, and I got the

468
00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:50.240
<v Speaker 2>dirt all around my head, and this cat's just raising him.

469
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:53.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like I didn't want some big bobcat coming around

470
00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:56.400
<v Speaker 2>and latching on my head and getting this cat. It's terrible, scary,

471
00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:58.759
<v Speaker 2>but I think I did the right thing. I took

472
00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>it to the top of the hill. I looked around.

473
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I tried to find to see if there was some

474
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:05.640
<v Speaker 2>place cave or something this thing came out of, but

475
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:08.160
<v Speaker 2>it didn't. So I set it on a rock up,

476
00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:10.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, next to a bluff that was at top

477
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:13.440
<v Speaker 2>of it, and got my dogs away from it and

478
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:18.759
<v Speaker 2>went back down and you know, told the dogs to

479
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:21.880
<v Speaker 2>leave it alone, you know, and just hope for the

480
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:24.559
<v Speaker 2>best that this thing screaming and the mother will come

481
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>back and pick it up. I think she dropped it

482
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.759
<v Speaker 2>because my dogs might have scared her off from whilst

483
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:31.480
<v Speaker 2>he was moving it from place to place.

484
00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:32.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

485
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>That's the only thing that seems feasible to me. She

486
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>was in the middle of moving her kittens and my

487
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:42.920
<v Speaker 2>dog showed up and she dropped the thing. So I

488
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>got to the bottom of this thing when I got back,

489
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 2>and thank god, you know, I didn't have to fight

490
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:50.519
<v Speaker 2>a bobcat around my neck that day. And I get

491
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:52.599
<v Speaker 2>to the bottom and I look right across the creek,

492
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 2>and there's this long, stringy tree, and a lot of

493
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 2>people see him, they talk about him. It's like, you know,

494
00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:00.880
<v Speaker 2>so I squatches will make a loop of a tree,

495
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and I've seen plenty of those in Tennessee, lots of

496
00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:10.839
<v Speaker 2>them anyway. So I see this little stringy tree, you know,

497
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.319
<v Speaker 2>it's like twenty five thirty feet tall. And those happened

498
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>because they're trying to reach up to the light, and

499
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, most of them eventually just fall over and die.

500
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:27.720
<v Speaker 2>But this thing had a twist in it. Something with

501
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:32.720
<v Speaker 2>two hands took it and twisted it about, you know,

502
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 2>enough to make a scar. And it was only about

503
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:39.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe a year old. Other things there. When I used

504
00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:41.119
<v Speaker 2>to run around, I used to riger and they used

505
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.599
<v Speaker 2>to take cedar trees and they twist the top of those.

506
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I'd go there, go through there one day, and I'd

507
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:51.920
<v Speaker 2>come back a week later, and they're in the cedar

508
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.799
<v Speaker 2>tree I had walked past, will be twisted up like

509
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>some hurricane got a hold the top of it and

510
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:01.440
<v Speaker 2>just twisted up up. And they don't break it off,

511
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.119
<v Speaker 2>they just twist them. They happened to me in Tennessee

512
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 2>when i'd ride my horse out to where I'd take

513
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 2>my horse out to graze. They used to twist cedar

514
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 2>trees all the time, and nothing can come through and

515
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:14.440
<v Speaker 2>do that.

516
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 3>No windstorm know nothing.

517
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>They broke out. I had a bunch of one hundred

518
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.640
<v Speaker 2>foot tall popper trees. They snapped the tops out of

519
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.400
<v Speaker 2>like three or four of them, and it's kind of

520
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 2>they lined my driveway. They snapped those out and threw

521
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>them down to the ground. They snapped another one out

522
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 2>on another time. I was coming back from Florida. I

523
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>worked back and forth from Florida. I traveled around and

524
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of these memories are hard to

525
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 2>remember because I'm not sitting still. I haven't sat still

526
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:50.240
<v Speaker 2>in fifty years. I am now retired now and I've

527
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:54.559
<v Speaker 2>sat still for about a year. So anyhow, you know,

528
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 2>they snap off trees, they do all kinds of stuff.

529
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>The other thing I want to talk about comment about

530
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.119
<v Speaker 2>is you know my problem with them because you hear

531
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:12.279
<v Speaker 2>about well they're evil or well they're kind. You know,

532
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 2>we leave them peanut butter. It's really we're habituating and

533
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't do that. I don't believe.

534
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 3>I tried to talk to my.

535
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Cousin into doing that, and then after I heard a

536
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.160
<v Speaker 2>few more videos, I called her back. I said, don't

537
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.119
<v Speaker 2>do it, don't do it, don't do it. I mean,

538
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm just north of where that I saw a dog

539
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 2>man track out there where I used to hang out.

540
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, nobody's going to believe any of this. And

541
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>when I was gone in the Navy, that's what happened

542
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>down in Katie's, Kentucky, that dog.

543
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Man spectacle that killed some campers. I was in the

544
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 3>Navy then.

545
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:58.279
<v Speaker 2>But before that, we were coming up from Tennessee, me

546
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>my little brother, and my dad knows about that. I'm

547
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>thirteen fourteen, and we were going to go deer hunt

548
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>at this property that my grandpa had just bought, which was,

549
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, the same area I'm telling me about it ran.

550
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>We eventually moved up there and lived from Tennessee. But anyhow,

551
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 2>we're going down this road from Katie's, Kentucky. I twenty

552
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 2>four was under construction, and I think at that time

553
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 2>you had to take that detour. So my dad just

554
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>bought this brand new truck. He's driving like eighty one

555
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.279
<v Speaker 2>miles an hour down this two lane road. It's it's scary.

556
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, I just like, you know, I

557
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 2>don't remember I don't remember getting to Katie's, Kentucky, but

558
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I remember driving through that road and I don't remember

559
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 2>getting to that particular night up to Illinois. But we

560
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>made it.

561
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 3>But a cop pulled us over because he was going

562
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 3>so fast.

563
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Eighty one miles an hour road like that is a

564
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:53.480
<v Speaker 2>big money money grabbed for, you know, the police or

565
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the county, you know. And all he wanted to do

566
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.759
<v Speaker 2>is see my dad's license. Told him to slow down.

567
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>He looked around a couple of times, and he got

568
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 2>back in his car. And I've heard people that I've

569
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 2>heard podcasts where people go up in that area and

570
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>they have mentioned that road and they say that they

571
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 2>saw something go across the road. And then they get

572
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 2>a little further it says, you want to turn around.

573
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Big for society who will be right back after these messages?

574
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>And they're like no, because there's no there's no way

575
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.880
<v Speaker 2>out of this. What are we going to find If

576
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>we find something, it's not going to be a good

577
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:48.240
<v Speaker 2>place to stop. It's a scary place. The whole place

578
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>up there is kind of scary. So I don't know

579
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 2>what to say to people. It's like, I don't want

580
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>you going up there where I stop around. It's not

581
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 2>far from garden, guys, But you know, it doesn't have

582
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 2>to be. It doesn't have to be a particular area.

583
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Those things I agree with, mister Elmer. Those things are everywhere,

584
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and they're especially everywhere down there. But in so far

585
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>as my experience has been so far, they're polite as

586
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 2>long as you are. Now, I have a huge problem.

587
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 2>That county is called the deer capital of Illinois. You

588
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>got everybody from Chicago coming down there deer season. It

589
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>lasts about three days. They have a big festival in town.

590
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I won't say what town. I guess I could. I

591
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be that much of a jerk, Dalkonda.

592
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:37.759
<v Speaker 2>They have a big deer festival down there every year,

593
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.039
<v Speaker 2>but everybody for Chicago comes down there. It sounds like

594
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>a war zone for three days. But there's nobody that

595
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>goes out in the middle of that. She's a deer nobody.

596
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 2>You can hear all the gunfire is coming from the

597
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.559
<v Speaker 2>road to the public road and the private properties and

598
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.519
<v Speaker 2>all places you can pull in on the edge, but

599
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:57.039
<v Speaker 2>nobody walks in the middle of that. They don't. They

600
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>just ain't got it in them. It's it's a scary,

601
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>scary place. I mean, I could talk all day about

602
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:06.319
<v Speaker 2>how scary that place is.

603
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you've had interactions with them in

604
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that area of Illinois as well? Or has it been

605
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>mainly in Tennessee where we've been talking about.

606
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 2>No, Illinois got it all started. My problem was I

607
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>was in denial. I guess you know these things don't

608
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>exist anymore. I heard all kinds of sounds, this wood

609
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.759
<v Speaker 2>knock thing. Now I listen to a podcast called wood

610
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>knocks make no sense to me. Don't tell me that

611
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 2>you're walking through the woods and all of a sudden

612
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 2>you hear a wood knock. Well, that would require a

613
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>sosquad to be standing there all day, or all week

614
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 2>or all month waiting for you to walk by to

615
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>hit a tree with a stick. That he's what, He

616
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 2>just automatically comes up with it. We know they don't

617
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.799
<v Speaker 2>walk around the clubs in their hand. Well, we don't

618
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.359
<v Speaker 2>know for sure, but they don't need clubs.

619
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.759
<v Speaker 3>That's another thing. They don't need clubs. They don't need weapons.

620
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.839
<v Speaker 2>If they are an evolved species, they decided to evolve

621
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.759
<v Speaker 2>into something that doesn't need anything but themselves. It's the

622
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:13.839
<v Speaker 2>most awesome thing when you think about it. But anyhow,

623
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 2>there's nobody. No sauce squatch is gonna stand there with

624
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.599
<v Speaker 2>a stick in his hand, you know, just happen upon

625
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 2>you crossing his path and then smack a tree. They're

626
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:25.839
<v Speaker 2>not gonna stand. They're not gonna snap a limb off

627
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and then snap the other end off. Souse. It's hard

628
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>enough because every stick you pick up around a tree

629
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>is a dead stick, and if you hit it, it just

630
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.319
<v Speaker 2>sounds like, you know, it's not gonna make much noise,

631
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.039
<v Speaker 2>not enough for you to hear it. So I was

632
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.279
<v Speaker 2>listening to one podcast one time and it finally made

633
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>sense to me.

634
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 3>They can make that sound with their tongue.

635
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I believe that because if you're gonna instantly, and if

636
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>if it were the case that you were able to

637
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 2>surprise the sauce clots, the first thing he would do

638
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 2>is stop in his track and make that sound and

639
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:58.240
<v Speaker 2>let you know.

640
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 3>If you're not lessening, you should be that he's close by.

641
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>It could also be, in my opinion and invitation, it's

642
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>also letting you know that we know you're here. So far,

643
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:16.079
<v Speaker 2>so good. Don't do anything stupid. But you are passing

644
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the point of no return if you're aware of it.

645
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.039
<v Speaker 2>But see now I'm aware of it. Back then I wasn't.

646
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I heard so many tree ox I just you know,

647
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I just ignore them, thinking, well, maybe this tree smacked

648
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 2>against another one as I'm walking through, you know, little

649
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:36.880
<v Speaker 2>breeze comes by, and you've got two trees that are

650
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>tangled up, and they just make that noise constantly.

651
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, And that's what I would always experience.

652
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.840
<v Speaker 2>But you know that's not the case, because I would

653
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 2>also look at top, you know, after I would hear

654
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 2>something like that, I would and have that opinion. And

655
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.639
<v Speaker 2>I have that opinion when I was a kid, I

656
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>would look up as I'm walking through for about you know,

657
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:57.280
<v Speaker 2>at least a fifty one hundred feet, because it's that

658
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 2>close to me. It wasn't like six miles away, and

659
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for the trees that are rubbing against each other.

660
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:06.519
<v Speaker 3>They're not there. They're never there.

661
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Never, not one time I heard some mony, And now

662
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I just anytime I hear it now just drugging my

663
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.639
<v Speaker 2>shoulders and I just keep on going because it's not

664
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:17.559
<v Speaker 2>a threat. I don't take it as a threat.

665
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Are there any other sounds that you're hearing out there

666
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 1>as well?

667
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in South Carolina, they come down and we got here.

668
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 2>We came here from Florida and was camping out in

669
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>National Forest and there was this two sasquatches. They was

670
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 2>a boy and a girl. I wouldn't say, well, you

671
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.400
<v Speaker 2>could say male and female, but they seem to be

672
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.639
<v Speaker 2>young because they were having a good time. And they

673
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>start screaming at the dogs. They'll yell directly at the dogs,

674
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.079
<v Speaker 2>and then the dogs would start just raising all for

675
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 2>miles around, and they just kept messing with them, messing

676
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 2>with them. And then they tore up a tree and

677
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:01.519
<v Speaker 2>I heard the first the boy Sasquats yelled, and then

678
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 2>the female was down in the canyon. See from my

679
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>years out and there was I can kind of see

680
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 2>through the dark kind of you know, it's nothing special,

681
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 2>but I can see what direction or something that's especially

682
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.880
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna make that kind of noise. I know which

683
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:21.039
<v Speaker 2>direction they're looking. I know how big it is, I mean, deer, whatever,

684
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 2>anything close by. I'll be able to figure it out.

685
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and we hear them all the time.

686
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't go out, I have been outside you know,

687
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>technically for a while because I'm trying to heal from

688
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 2>some injuries that have occurred over time anyhow, So they

689
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.000
<v Speaker 2>do it out here too. So after we got out

690
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.079
<v Speaker 2>of the campground. Oh and then I went down the

691
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>next day, I went down that road where we were camping,

692
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 2>and there was this tree just torn all the shreds

693
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and leaning up against the wall of the other trees

694
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that were on the side of the road. I was like,

695
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:01.199
<v Speaker 2>what did that. It wasn't something that drops got cut off.

696
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 2>It was like stripped, had one strip stripped through. It

697
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 2>looked like no lightning hit it. There was no storm

698
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 2>that came through. There was no wind that tore it up.

699
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.079
<v Speaker 2>It just got it was really it was skinny, but

700
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.719
<v Speaker 2>it was long and big kind of at the same time.

701
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, that's exactly where I heard the noise that

702
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.199
<v Speaker 2>was the night before, you know, last night heard that

703
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:27.519
<v Speaker 2>and it was just really.

704
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.559
<v Speaker 3>Funny and they loved messing with dogs. Asked my next story.

705
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 2>It's like after we got out of the campground, after

706
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>I'd come up here, I'd gotten a job because COVID

707
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>and the company I worked for went out of business

708
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:43.920
<v Speaker 2>two months before COVID then COVID hit and then I'm

709
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.360
<v Speaker 2>stuck in Florida. Finally I found a job in South Carolina,

710
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:49.800
<v Speaker 2>so we moved up here, but we just went camping

711
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>because not really good housing much up here. So finally

712
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>we found a place in the country. One hundred and

713
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:05.039
<v Speaker 2>twenty days later after camping, that's perfect. And one long

714
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 2>after that, I heard sasquatches mess some of the dogs

715
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:09.840
<v Speaker 2>up here. And there's a lot more dogs. There's a

716
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.039
<v Speaker 2>lot of neighbors around, but you can't kind of you

717
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>can't see them. It's around a lake.

718
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:14.719
<v Speaker 3>You know.

719
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.159
<v Speaker 2>There's not many water sources here, so they're gonna be

720
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>here if they are here. So what we would hear

721
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 2>is these dogs that's going crazy, going nuts. And so

722
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 2>what I do is I'll bark back. I'll tell the

723
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.480
<v Speaker 2>dogs to shut up. I'll bark at the dogs, not

724
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 2>bark like a dog, but I will sound like a sasquatch,

725
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>a mean one.

726
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 3>If they don't shut up, I get a little.

727
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Meaner, and I get as mean as I have to

728
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 2>get until all of them across the country tride shut up.

729
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Because I can't stand barking dogs. I just can't deal

730
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>with it. I don't like a dog that just barks constantly.

731
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:50.679
<v Speaker 2>My dogs aren't allowed to bark unless some importance is

732
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:51.039
<v Speaker 2>going on.

733
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not I don't have that.

734
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 2>And then when you've got a whole neighborhood, not a neighborhood,

735
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>but a countryside full of dogs marking at the same time,

736
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and the thing I was telling you about before, I

737
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>can tell when the dogs are barking and what direction

738
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 2>they're barking at, and then it kind of points out

739
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>where this is, and they'll all point straight.

740
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 3>To the perpetrator.

741
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:19.079
<v Speaker 2>And I think the reason they do that is because

742
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.199
<v Speaker 2>they want all the dogs to make all that noise

743
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 2>so they can come and raid whatever they want to raid,

744
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:26.639
<v Speaker 2>and no one hears anything except dogs barking.

745
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 3>I think they use those dogs to their advantage. They

746
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.360
<v Speaker 3>did the same things to the coyotes.

747
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:35.079
<v Speaker 2>When I lived in Tennessee, coyotes used to yip and

748
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 2>yap and yap, and they'd be like fifty of them.

749
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Why in the world would a bunch of a pack

750
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:42.719
<v Speaker 2>of fifty coyotes. You're lucky to see two or three

751
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 2>or four at a time. If you ever see them

752
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.239
<v Speaker 2>fifty coyotes all rounded up. And then you listen up

753
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the hill a little further and you hear another big

754
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>coyote just oh, and you think, you know, back then,

755
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought, well, that must be the king coyote. Well,

756
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 2>the coyote was a sad squatch running. There's all kinds

757
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 2>of running them through the mountain, getting ready to eat

758
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.679
<v Speaker 2>one of them, and they're all gathering up and hoping,

759
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:10.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, strengthen numbers.

760
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.159
<v Speaker 3>There's all kinds of rock piles off the side of

761
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:15.639
<v Speaker 3>my property.

762
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I had a house and sixteen acres there on the

763
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:18.199
<v Speaker 2>side of a mountain.

764
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:20.679
<v Speaker 3>There was no neighbors. There was a neighbor.

765
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, there are neighbors, but you know, I had

766
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.199
<v Speaker 2>a whole I don't know, twenty thirty miles out in

767
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 2>front of me. I could just go and explore and

768
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 2>anytime I wanted to and not cross, not across the street.

769
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>And there's stone rock piles out there that make no

770
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>sense to me. There were people that lived on the

771
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 2>side of that mountain. You'll find their foundations or maybe

772
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:45.440
<v Speaker 2>their chimneys. They were close by the house. But uh,

773
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the places all these rock piles are, there's no reason

774
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:51.639
<v Speaker 2>think you could even you know, cut all the trees

775
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:55.079
<v Speaker 2>out and plant corn in it. Is it was just stupid.

776
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're Indian graves.

777
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. There were some that were like cone shaped.

778
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just like a rock pile, you know, you'd

779
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:08.960
<v Speaker 2>see you know, eight feet long, three feet high, four

780
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.639
<v Speaker 2>feet wide. There's plenty of those. And then there's others

781
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:16.960
<v Speaker 2>that are just like stacked up like a cone. Strange things,

782
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 2>just you know, I see strange things everywhere.

783
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:24.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean not that I'm not making them up. I

784
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.679
<v Speaker 3>see him and that's what I see. And what are they?

785
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:27.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

786
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 1>And was that at Tennessee in Tennessee?

787
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 2>That was in Tennessee?

788
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

789
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Did I tell you about the owls?

790
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:34.559
<v Speaker 1>No? Not yet?

791
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 3>No?

792
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, the owls after the eyeball thing, the red

793
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 2>eyes after that, it wasn't long. It was the same year,

794
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 2>in the same spring, and that was See I'm trying

795
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 2>to put this together because you know, it's so long ago.

796
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:55.519
<v Speaker 2>And I have to say, was that the same year?

797
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Was it a week ago? A week before? Anyhow? So

798
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.000
<v Speaker 2>this owl goes out and starts hooting. So I get

799
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 2>out on the porch, the same porch, and I start

800
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.800
<v Speaker 2>hooting back at this thing. And I'm pretty good at it,

801
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.719
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm hooting at this owl, and I'm hooting

802
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 2>this owl, and then I realized that this may not

803
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 2>be an owl. It's giant, it's huge. All I can

804
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>see is, you know, just past the you know, it's

805
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:27.000
<v Speaker 2>just a wall of darkness through the woods. Middle of

806
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 2>the night, about ten thirty eleven o'clock at night. This

807
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.639
<v Speaker 2>thing's hooting. I'm hooting back. I'm having a good time,

808
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sitting there thinking, I think I'm gonna walk

809
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.000
<v Speaker 2>up there and see what that is. I was about

810
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.840
<v Speaker 2>to take a step off the porch, and another one

811
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 2>off to my left at about forty five degrees did

812
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 2>the same thing started hooting too. So now I've got

813
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:46.679
<v Speaker 2>two of these things hooting, so I'm hooting at both

814
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>of them. I decide to back up. You know, I

815
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.360
<v Speaker 2>put my foot back on the porch, and I think

816
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 2>these can't be owls because they're too big. They sound

817
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>like they're six foot tall. Now I've listened to owls

818
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.119
<v Speaker 2>for I know want an owl sound. I've been in

819
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.199
<v Speaker 2>the woods planning. I know what a normal sized owl

820
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.760
<v Speaker 2>sounds like. These things were just way too loud. You

821
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 2>could feel the vibration from these owls hooting. Then they

822
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.360
<v Speaker 2>just one shut up and the other one shut up,

823
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 2>and I shut up, and I went to the house.

824
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 2>But there was no way I was gonna go out

825
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:26.079
<v Speaker 2>there and see if I could get them, you know,

826
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:28.880
<v Speaker 2>out of the trees, or get a look at them.

827
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.400
<v Speaker 2>They were just too big. I've heard a lot of

828
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:35.480
<v Speaker 2>stories about that, but I had the And oh the

829
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>other thing gave away was like at the end of

830
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 2>an owl call, when you hear a real owl, it's

831
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 2>always a who who to you. These things would growl

832
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 2>at the end of it, and that's when that was

833
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:51.519
<v Speaker 2>the dead giveaway for me. But still at this time,

834
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think Bigfoot still existed. And then when I

835
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:04.360
<v Speaker 2>told you about those trees getting staffed up, happened about oh.

836
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.159
<v Speaker 3>Probably three or four weeks later.

837
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:08.599
<v Speaker 2>All those trees were in my driveway and they just

838
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.599
<v Speaker 2>snapped everything off the top. So maybe they got mad,

839
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they got mad at me because I was, you know,

840
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 2>technically mocking them.

841
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Mark, I want to I want to

842
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>make sure I'm on the right page. So you had

843
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the owl. The owl thing happened after you had the

844
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>visual with the one standing there with the squirrels, and

845
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you still were not one hundred percent together. So what

846
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>was asking, Yeah, what pushed you over then?

847
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Podcast?

848
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, so I was raised.

849
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 2>I was raised. I was raised in a family. If

850
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.199
<v Speaker 2>you brought up anything like that, told any stories like that,

851
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:54.039
<v Speaker 2>they would make you pay for it. You don't, don't

852
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>bring it up, don't talk about it. That doesn't exist.

853
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.519
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. So I was stuck with that in my brain.

854
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm not stuck with that anymore.

855
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that's why it's taken me so long to

856
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:09.000
<v Speaker 2>come around. It wasn't like I'm an automatic souled enthusiast.

857
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I was just telling my girlfriend. It's like, you know,

858
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people go out in the woods, say

859
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>hear a tree knock, and they stop in their tracks,

860
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.519
<v Speaker 2>and they turn around, they go home. I just ignored them.

861
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Big for society, who would be right back after these messages.

862
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Heard I've heard. I can't even tell how many of

863
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:44.159
<v Speaker 2>those I've heard. I just ignore them and I just

864
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 2>keep on going. You know, that's stupid. I mean, if

865
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I knew there were sasquatches in i'd stop my tracks.

866
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't way around turned around at home. Sure, but

867
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know, you know, I just thought they were

868
00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:00.079
<v Speaker 2>all dead. I didn't think they existed. I knew that

869
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:03.400
<v Speaker 2>existed in the past. I believe you know, I believed

870
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>it thoroughly. I used to sit out when I would

871
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:08.719
<v Speaker 2>ride my horse out there and let her eat, and

872
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>I'd look across the countryside, down the mountain and down

873
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>the grassway under the power lines where we were all sitting,

874
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:18.280
<v Speaker 2>and where I was sitting and just wishing to see one.

875
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.039
<v Speaker 2>I always, like always dreamed of these things. Just walk

876
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:23.679
<v Speaker 2>out the side of the wood, just let me see

877
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the top of your head, and I'll be happy. But

878
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 2>it never happened in the daylight. Never saw one in

879
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the daylight, or if I have, I've blocked it and

880
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not ready to address it yet.

881
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:36.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure.

882
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 1>So the one time that you had you were able

883
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:44.599
<v Speaker 1>to see one, the one that you said looked autistic.

884
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Was that one interaction that we've talked about. Were there

885
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>any other interactions after.

886
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:54.360
<v Speaker 2>That or I don't know, well other than you know,

887
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 2>just just hearing them constantly and knowing where they're at.

888
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 2>No have any sightings other than that one. And that

889
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:06.000
<v Speaker 2>was sighting enough for me, sure, And that's scary enough

890
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 2>for me not to want to go out in the

891
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.679
<v Speaker 2>woods again. Just like Elmer. You asked him if he

892
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.559
<v Speaker 2>still hunts. He said no, I gave that up. I

893
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 2>don't hunt, I don't fish. I just stay home. And

894
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean what he experienced is enough to would keep

895
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.679
<v Speaker 2>me out of the woods too. I wouldn't. I wouldn't never.

896
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean him seeing that calf pulled in half. You know,

897
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:34.079
<v Speaker 2>I haven't had well. I actually, down here where I

898
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.000
<v Speaker 2>live now, like a year ago or so, I found

899
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 2>a deer that all the skin was pulled off of it,

900
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't during deer hunting season.

901
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:44.039
<v Speaker 3>Found that on the.

902
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Side of the road.

903
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Did it have its legs still?

904
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Nobody took any meat off of it. There was nothing.

905
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:54.440
<v Speaker 2>It was just just tore apart. But it had been

906
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:56.519
<v Speaker 2>in the woods for a good five or six days,

907
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:58.199
<v Speaker 2>and part of it was starting to dry out.

908
00:47:59.119 --> 00:47:59.320
<v Speaker 3>You know.

909
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:02.880
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like fresh kill. But I found this thing

910
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:05.599
<v Speaker 2>because I saw some dogs run off the top of

911
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 2>a hill out the end of my road where I live,

912
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:10.719
<v Speaker 2>and I got out and looked around us that had

913
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.280
<v Speaker 2>a piece of meat or skin in its mouth, and

914
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what is that?

915
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:16.800
<v Speaker 3>So I got out and I climbed up.

916
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>On the hill and then you know, smelled the death

917
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.400
<v Speaker 2>and I went, wow, the only time I seen something

918
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.920
<v Speaker 2>like that happen is like, I know a lot of

919
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:27.760
<v Speaker 2>people and even my family, I think they.

920
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Used to do it sometimes.

921
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Is you cut it a certain way and you tie

922
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:34.679
<v Speaker 2>a chain to the skin and you just pull it

923
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 2>behind a truck, you know, and the things tied to

924
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 2>a tree and you skin it real quick. But you know,

925
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:42.880
<v Speaker 2>it usually takes the legs off. It makes a mess

926
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 2>if you don't.

927
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Cut it right. It's just like, but this thing was

928
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 3>pretty much intact.

929
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.360
<v Speaker 2>No one had you know, not a rib was missing,

930
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Coyotes hadn't been chewing on it.

931
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:54.800
<v Speaker 3>It was just there.

932
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.960
<v Speaker 2>And I what would do that?

933
00:48:58.239 --> 00:48:58.679
<v Speaker 3>And why?

934
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Because even if if the human had done that, why

935
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:03.920
<v Speaker 2>is they going to go to the trouble to trip

936
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:07.719
<v Speaker 2>the skin off, not take a back leg a front leg.

937
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Nothing was missing from this deer. So I found that

938
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:12.639
<v Speaker 3>very odd.

939
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Ollieat you know, I don't think I've eaten any roadkill

940
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:22.519
<v Speaker 2>or have I I'm not sure. Oh God know the story.

941
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.360
<v Speaker 2>We were heading down to Florida and there's a viaduct

942
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 2>in between here and Savannah can't tell you exactly where

943
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.679
<v Speaker 2>it's on nine to ninety five, and we had been

944
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 2>through there like a couple of times back and forth

945
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.199
<v Speaker 2>to Florida, and I always looked at that place and

946
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought, boy, would that'd be a good place for

947
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:41.280
<v Speaker 2>a soft because right where the viaduct is was a

948
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Speaker 2>big it starts the swampy areas down there towards Savannah,

949
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:48.559
<v Speaker 2>and so I thought, well, that'd be you look around

950
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 2>and think, well, that'd be a great place for a

951
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:53.039
<v Speaker 2>sasquash be run around. About the third trip down there,

952
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:56.000
<v Speaker 2>we hit a wall of the biggest stink you could

953
00:49:56.039 --> 00:50:02.559
<v Speaker 2>ever imagine. And I'm telling you it was mixture of skunk, garbage,

954
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:07.639
<v Speaker 2>dead animal, burnt tires of some sort, burnt suthing, just

955
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 2>with the worst stink. And this is coming from a

956
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:15.519
<v Speaker 2>man that has been actually skunked in the face a

957
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.840
<v Speaker 2>foot away from my face by an actual skunk.

958
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 3>This was ten times worse than it had that happened

959
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:22.159
<v Speaker 3>to me.

960
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.360
<v Speaker 2>It was horrible. Me and my girlfriend were just started screaming,

961
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.239
<v Speaker 2>what does that smell? It's not a paper mill. I

962
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.280
<v Speaker 2>don't want to hear anybody saying, no, it's probably those

963
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.000
<v Speaker 2>paper mills down there. I lived in Charleston when I

964
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>was in the Navy, I had to deal with paper

965
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 2>whills every day.

966
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.159
<v Speaker 3>You never got used to it. This was five times

967
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:38.719
<v Speaker 3>worse than that.

968
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:43.800
<v Speaker 2>It was horrible. So I mean it just unmistakable. It

969
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:49.320
<v Speaker 2>couldn't have been anything else couldn't have been. My sightings

970
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:55.039
<v Speaker 2>are smells of hearing things, you know, stuff like that.

971
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.440
<v Speaker 2>But my sighting to me, with the red eye thing

972
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:03.000
<v Speaker 2>is just as good as seeing this singing broad daylight.

973
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't need to see one in broad daylight.

974
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't need to make up any stories that I

975
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.880
<v Speaker 2>have seen one in broad daylight. I mean there's particular areas,

976
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Speaker 2>like when I was running around with my horse and

977
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 2>stuff in Tennessee. There's little cubby holes and little things

978
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 2>you go into. It looks like they have their own

979
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:29.039
<v Speaker 2>bias fhere, and then you get this really spooky feeling

980
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 2>about you shouldn't be in here, and you're told to leave.

981
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 2>And I've always gotten nothing, I've wept. You can be

982
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:37.599
<v Speaker 2>out gathering stuff in the woods or something, then all

983
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:39.679
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden something will happen, like a wall gets

984
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:41.760
<v Speaker 2>in front of you and says it's time for you

985
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 2>to go now. I said, really, She says, yeah. I

986
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:46.559
<v Speaker 2>used to have me down there when we were camping.

987
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, I've had that happen in my entire life.

988
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I just you know, I don't care fifty feet away,

989
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:52.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to.

990
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Go get it.

991
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like you get told it's time to go, and

992
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:59.679
<v Speaker 2>if you pay attention enough, I guess you'll get along

993
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.880
<v Speaker 2>with these critters just fine. A lot of people don't

994
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.280
<v Speaker 2>pay attention. I worry about those that come up missing.

995
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:12.280
<v Speaker 2>I worry about people that you know, call these things cannibals. Well,

996
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:14.360
<v Speaker 2>the only way you call them a cannibal is if

997
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:17.079
<v Speaker 2>they're related to us number one. So somebody needs to

998
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:20.400
<v Speaker 2>prove to me that they're an actual cannibal. But I

999
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 2>think the way that they treat us is the way

1000
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:27.800
<v Speaker 2>we treat our chickens. If you got like five or

1001
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.880
<v Speaker 2>ten chickens, you know they're out in your yard pecking around. Well,

1002
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.039
<v Speaker 2>eventually you know one of them's going to wind up

1003
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.800
<v Speaker 2>in the in the in the pot, in the oven.

1004
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:39.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like we love them, we even give

1005
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:42.199
<v Speaker 2>them names. But eventually, when that hen stops laying eggs,

1006
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.400
<v Speaker 2>she's going in the oven. And I think that's kind

1007
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.159
<v Speaker 2>of the way they may be looking at us. They

1008
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 2>like us as long as we don't mess up. Maybe

1009
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.599
<v Speaker 2>we don't do this. Maybe we get there too many times.

1010
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like time to wring the chicken's neck. I've heard

1011
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.400
<v Speaker 2>a little too many stories about, you know, finding bones

1012
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.199
<v Speaker 2>and caves of eating humans that just recently disappeared. I

1013
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know whether those are you know, true or not,

1014
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:11.159
<v Speaker 2>but it just it makes you have to wonder, because

1015
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 2>they don't they're not They're not in any hurry to

1016
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 2>sit down across any table from us and negotiate about

1017
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 2>nothing about anything, even or I think even our own

1018
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:25.239
<v Speaker 2>government can't handle these things. I think that's why they've

1019
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.760
<v Speaker 2>made all these national forests. So give them a spot

1020
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:31.559
<v Speaker 2>to where they can go live and the rest of

1021
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:39.760
<v Speaker 2>us idiots don't go invade or settle or habitat. Gatlinburg's

1022
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.320
<v Speaker 2>a good example of that. There's too many things going

1023
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:46.039
<v Speaker 2>on and smokies. I won't I won't. I won't walk

1024
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 2>around the Smokeyes, I'll go to that creek that's going

1025
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.159
<v Speaker 2>east to west towards Maryville, but that's the only place

1026
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I play around in smokey. So I've just known that

1027
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know people were disappearing that. I just

1028
00:53:56.880 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 2>always had a feeling there. I'm not a scared I'm

1029
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.719
<v Speaker 2>not a scared to anything kind of guy. And that's

1030
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.800
<v Speaker 2>just I just knew how to act. I guess I

1031
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:08.400
<v Speaker 2>just knew not to go do this, don't go do that.

1032
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, one thing happened to me.

1033
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:14.039
<v Speaker 2>I was driving down toward Gatlin Bird from the top

1034
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 2>of the mountain out of Cherokee and started seeing Indian

1035
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:21.199
<v Speaker 2>graves or pot rock piles, and then I smelled a bear.

1036
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 2>That's enough for me. I don't need to get in

1037
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:26.119
<v Speaker 2>some hollow back there and come up against the five

1038
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.079
<v Speaker 2>hundred pound black bear. You want to understand, they're not

1039
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:33.159
<v Speaker 2>very friendly. You know, you can't talk them out of hunger.

1040
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:36.800
<v Speaker 2>So I just never But I mean, that's what I

1041
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:39.000
<v Speaker 2>know now. I didn't know that then, but just the

1042
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:44.000
<v Speaker 2>atmosphere kept me from doing anything stupid in the Smokies.

1043
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:52.760
<v Speaker 2>So when you start like the built Gatlinburg, and when

1044
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:56.679
<v Speaker 2>you start pinning these people in into a certain area,

1045
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.079
<v Speaker 2>the only thing they can do is strike back. You

1046
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.679
<v Speaker 2>know what happens if you're sitting on your front porch

1047
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:05.199
<v Speaker 2>and something comes out of the woods and just starts

1048
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:09.039
<v Speaker 2>taking and eating everything, garbaging up your front yard and

1049
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.599
<v Speaker 2>doesn't even recognize you're sitting there. What are you going

1050
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 2>to do about that?

1051
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of what's going on with them.

1052
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 2>I believe. Don't get out there and do anything stupid.

1053
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:20.800
<v Speaker 2>And if you get away with it, good for you.

1054
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:23.119
<v Speaker 2>But don't do it twice. Don't do it three times.

1055
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:26.280
<v Speaker 2>They're just bad. Things can happen.

1056
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Hey, you're talking about big foot specifically, right, Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

1057
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you think people should put out any type of

1058
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:40.119
<v Speaker 1>food for them if they know that they're in their area.

1059
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 3>That's a tough one.

1060
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:47.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a yes and no. It's a I would put

1061
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:52.719
<v Speaker 2>out enough to just to let them know that I'm

1062
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:56.559
<v Speaker 2>aware that they're there, and I appreciate they're there because

1063
00:55:56.639 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 2>they're good guard dogs. They're awesome guard dog. Nothing's going

1064
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:03.320
<v Speaker 2>to come around your property if they're sleeping outside in

1065
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:05.519
<v Speaker 2>the woods, just right on the edge across the fence,

1066
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.559
<v Speaker 2>nothing's going to mess with you. But don't overfeed. If

1067
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.639
<v Speaker 2>you start feeding them and feeding them and feeding them.

1068
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to use videos for example that I've heard.

1069
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:19.960
<v Speaker 2>There was a woman that did that. I don't know

1070
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 2>where it was. I think it around North Carolina or something,

1071
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:24.400
<v Speaker 2>and she went away for a week and when she

1072
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:27.400
<v Speaker 2>got back, they had completely destroyed her entire property.

1073
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Because she wasn't there to feed them every day.

1074
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:34.239
<v Speaker 2>They had to bring in a professional team to come

1075
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:35.480
<v Speaker 2>in there and shoot that thing.

1076
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.480
<v Speaker 3>It was like ten feet tall, big giant thing.

1077
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:41.519
<v Speaker 2>And since he didn't get fed that week, she had

1078
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.519
<v Speaker 2>went off to visit somewhere and she came back to

1079
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.079
<v Speaker 2>the destarter place. They had to like calm that thing down,

1080
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.400
<v Speaker 2>and even the team that they brought in couldn't handle them.

1081
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 2>They had to call a bigger team that you know

1082
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:55.440
<v Speaker 2>even more. You know, if you want to believe this

1083
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:58.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. You know, I don't know what's totally

1084
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:03.920
<v Speaker 2>incompletely true espousing that it is, but but I can

1085
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:07.119
<v Speaker 2>surely go along if something you know that big, and

1086
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I know they're anywhere. What makes me angry the most

1087
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 2>I think is, uh, you know, we're you know, it's

1088
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.199
<v Speaker 2>some kind of stigma to speak up about this, to

1089
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:20.480
<v Speaker 2>say that, uh, you know, we believe in it, or

1090
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 2>even even the people that know about it, it's like Elmer,

1091
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.920
<v Speaker 2>he knows, I know, but you know, people look down

1092
00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:30.159
<v Speaker 2>on you and saying it doesn't exist, which you know

1093
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:33.280
<v Speaker 2>puts us in a category of people being insane and

1094
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:35.599
<v Speaker 2>need to be locked up in the street jacket all.

1095
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:39.639
<v Speaker 2>And that's just not that's I'm not willing to accept that.

1096
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not, especially when I know the way they act

1097
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:47.280
<v Speaker 2>by not giving up information. Oh here's here's one that

1098
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 2>game Warden that Elmer had talked to. He just strictly

1099
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.559
<v Speaker 2>told him just don't do it. Don't do it. He

1100
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:57.679
<v Speaker 2>wasn't trying to protect the Saucequatches.

1101
00:57:57.800 --> 00:57:58.239
<v Speaker 3>He did.

1102
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:02.079
<v Speaker 2>He knows something of him that has told him he

1103
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:05.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want the heat this. You know, he's saying, this

1104
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.679
<v Speaker 2>is my neighborhood. Do not shoot that thing, because if

1105
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 2>you do, it's gonna come down on me. That's what

1106
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:16.800
<v Speaker 2>that meant. It'll come down on him too, but it's

1107
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:18.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna come down on him first, and he don't want

1108
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.880
<v Speaker 2>to hear that music. It's a fearful it's a fearful,

1109
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.760
<v Speaker 2>frightful thing for the government to come after you. How

1110
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:28.719
<v Speaker 2>many podcasts have I heard It's like, next thing I know,

1111
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:32.280
<v Speaker 2>there's a black helicopter, or the men in black show up,

1112
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:34.000
<v Speaker 2>or the next thing I'm dealing with a bunch of

1113
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:38.199
<v Speaker 2>FBI agents making me sign an nda. You know, I'm

1114
00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:43.519
<v Speaker 2>a little I'm not fearful of that necessarily, but I

1115
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:44.480
<v Speaker 2>got a big mouth.

1116
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:45.400
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1117
00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:53.159
<v Speaker 1>The area in Tennessee. Have you have you ever talked

1118
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:56.400
<v Speaker 1>to your neighbors to see if they're experiencing things.

1119
00:58:56.679 --> 00:59:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there is one time. My neighbor Bill, good friend

1120
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:02.559
<v Speaker 2>of mine, he lived down down there. You know, I

1121
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:06.400
<v Speaker 2>used to ride my horse from through the woods from

1122
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:11.000
<v Speaker 2>my house down to his. People thought that was crazy.

1123
00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:13.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, It's just it was just normal to me,

1124
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 2>but they thought, wow, that's crazy. Yeah, So he was

1125
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:18.280
<v Speaker 2>riding my horse down there.

1126
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:20.480
<v Speaker 3>We drink beer instead of sit around hanging out and

1127
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:21.000
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff.

1128
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:23.280
<v Speaker 2>He was an old hippie. But he got drunk one

1129
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:28.559
<v Speaker 2>night and claimed he went down the road and claimed

1130
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:32.280
<v Speaker 2>he saw buffalo. He said it was right beside my truck.

1131
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm only doing ten fifteen miles an hour, and I

1132
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:42.039
<v Speaker 2>got buffalo walking beside me out my window. And I

1133
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:45.239
<v Speaker 2>couldn't figure it out. It's like, how would a stray buffalo?

1134
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:47.880
<v Speaker 2>He says. It's just like, you know, buffalo when they

1135
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:51.400
<v Speaker 2>shed their hair in the wintertime. It was like it

1136
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.840
<v Speaker 2>was all hairy and like all matted up, and it

1137
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:58.559
<v Speaker 2>was walking on all fours, he mentioned. I said, he

1138
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:00.760
<v Speaker 2>just kept saying it was walking on on all fours.

1139
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I kept saying.

1140
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.760
<v Speaker 1>That big for society, who will be right back after

1141
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:05.639
<v Speaker 1>these messages?

1142
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:24.880
<v Speaker 2>He said maybe it was a subsquatch, And I even

1143
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:27.559
<v Speaker 2>talked to him. I said, there's no way, Bill, there's

1144
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:30.760
<v Speaker 2>no sasquatch running around here. He said, the thing was

1145
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:34.239
<v Speaker 2>like it was huge. It was as big as my truck.

1146
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 2>It was tall at the back of it. I'm looking

1147
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:39.159
<v Speaker 2>at the back of it, but he didn't see the

1148
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:43.960
<v Speaker 2>front of it. So just where he had seen this thing,

1149
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:48.880
<v Speaker 2>it was right at this little little short bridge, small

1150
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.880
<v Speaker 2>low bridge that goes over a creek, a dry creek.

1151
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:55.719
<v Speaker 2>And if you make a left right there at that

1152
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.679
<v Speaker 2>thing and walk about a mile, there's this huge giant

1153
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 2>sinkhole cave system. I've been in it, got in it,

1154
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:07.239
<v Speaker 2>crawled in it, big enough for one of them things

1155
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:09.800
<v Speaker 2>to get in it and just live there. And there's

1156
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:12.639
<v Speaker 2>another cave down the road to the right. I've gott

1157
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:16.280
<v Speaker 2>in that cave when I was younger, and so there's

1158
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 2>plenty of it, you know, if he wanted to hide,

1159
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:20.559
<v Speaker 2>there's plenty of places for the big thing to hide.

1160
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:23.079
<v Speaker 2>So I went down to my other neighbor, which was

1161
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.920
<v Speaker 2>a friend of ours, and I kind of sat for

1162
01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:28.159
<v Speaker 2>a couple of days thinking about, well, maybe he's right,

1163
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:30.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe it is a big foot. And I brought it

1164
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 2>up to him and he.

1165
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:34.239
<v Speaker 3>Went monkey nuts on me and told me to shut up,

1166
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:35.360
<v Speaker 3>don't bring that up again.

1167
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk about it, and I don't

1168
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:39.119
<v Speaker 2>want to want you bring that up to Just don't

1169
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:41.840
<v Speaker 2>talk about it. I said, what's the matter, it's not

1170
01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:44.079
<v Speaker 2>a buffalo. I'm just talking about it. It's not a buffalo.

1171
01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it is a big foot. He says, that's enough

1172
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:51.199
<v Speaker 2>for me. That's enough, so I'd say, And I couldn't

1173
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:54.480
<v Speaker 2>talk to him about it ever again. It was a

1174
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:56.920
<v Speaker 2>don't don't bring us up, don't bring us up, shot

1175
01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.519
<v Speaker 2>up ever again. But he lived down right there in

1176
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 2>the valley, not three months or not a mile away

1177
01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:07.880
<v Speaker 2>from where he saw this thing. But he was just

1178
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:12.239
<v Speaker 2>not even wanting to hear the possibility of the theory

1179
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:16.840
<v Speaker 2>of maybe because we know it's not a buffalo. Oh,

1180
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:21.679
<v Speaker 2>Bill's just drunk. He was just drunk. No many what

1181
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:28.760
<v Speaker 2>it was. Sorry, it wasn't my sighting. That's just the

1182
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.719
<v Speaker 2>story that sound, and that was the end of that.

1183
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Bill died not long after that, probably about a year after.

1184
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:42.400
<v Speaker 2>But you know, yeah, Bill was a drinker, but he

1185
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:43.480
<v Speaker 2>wasn't an hallucinator.

1186
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:46.360
<v Speaker 3>I know that for a fact.

1187
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow, what an interesting area. Do you ever hear anything

1188
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.079
<v Speaker 1>else weird in the woods besides the sounds that you're

1189
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:58.800
<v Speaker 1>attributing to Bigfoot?

1190
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Well? The only oh any other things weird? Oh let

1191
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:07.920
<v Speaker 2>me think that's a curveball? Yeah, that I can't remember

1192
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.039
<v Speaker 2>what they are. I'm trying to just rack my brain

1193
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:14.559
<v Speaker 2>with what I'm dealing with. But no steel doors closing. Okay,

1194
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:17.920
<v Speaker 2>actually it's nothing. It's nothing I heard, but it's what

1195
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 2>I saw when I'm sitting there with that bob Back

1196
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:22.559
<v Speaker 2>when I was sitting there with that bobcat, I told

1197
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:24.559
<v Speaker 2>you I hadn't objective that I wanted to get to.

1198
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.000
<v Speaker 2>So while I'm dealing with this bobcat, my girlfriend's got

1199
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.199
<v Speaker 2>a sprained ankle, and you know, and my dogs, well,

1200
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:33.599
<v Speaker 2>my dogs aren't giving me a problem necessarily. And then

1201
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:35.920
<v Speaker 2>that twisted tree is right across the.

1202
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:36.599
<v Speaker 3>Creek from me.

1203
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:41.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking down and what should be darker black. I

1204
01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:41.719
<v Speaker 2>kept seeing this.

1205
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.960
<v Speaker 3>It looked like there was a white building sitting there.

1206
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I well, what is that? Why is there? There shouldn't

1207
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:51.519
<v Speaker 2>be anything white, and it's huge and it's sitting there

1208
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.280
<v Speaker 2>just like I could just you could just barely see

1209
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:57.559
<v Speaker 2>it through the trees. But it's solid white. The rocks

1210
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.400
<v Speaker 2>aren't going to be white. There's nothing there that should

1211
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:03.800
<v Speaker 2>be white. But you know, I'm dealing with, you know,

1212
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:07.119
<v Speaker 2>quite a few issues there. I keep glancing down there,

1213
01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:09.320
<v Speaker 2>see what that is. I'm glancing around. What am I

1214
01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:11.880
<v Speaker 2>going to do with this cat? So once I got

1215
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the cat down, I thought about going. Then we just

1216
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:17.239
<v Speaker 2>decided no, I'll see it some other time. But it

1217
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:20.119
<v Speaker 2>was it was just too big. I had been to

1218
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that place way too many times. There's no such thing

1219
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.400
<v Speaker 2>as anything being white. There's no building, there's no road

1220
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:29.840
<v Speaker 2>to anybody to carry anything out there. There's a huge

1221
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I just know there was like a white wall down

1222
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.280
<v Speaker 2>at the end of where I wanted to get to,

1223
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.320
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't go see what it was. Call it

1224
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.320
<v Speaker 2>a legend, call it what you will, but I just

1225
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:45.480
<v Speaker 2>found that so odd and still to this day bothers

1226
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:48.800
<v Speaker 2>me because I've been out there one hundred times and

1227
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:53.320
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing white out there. Stupid. There's no way anybody

1228
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:58.880
<v Speaker 2>brought anything white out there. As far as other sounds, no,

1229
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:03.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think really, not really. I may remember something later,

1230
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:05.360
<v Speaker 2>but right now, off the top of my head, no,

1231
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:13.360
<v Speaker 2>nothing spooky scary. I think I think there are dog

1232
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.400
<v Speaker 2>men there, but I don't think. I think it's kind

1233
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:17.840
<v Speaker 2>of like they from what I understand, they don't like

1234
01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:22.840
<v Speaker 2>each other much. They're in Kentucky across the river, and

1235
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I got the guard dogs that I got, which I'm

1236
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:26.119
<v Speaker 2>happy about.

1237
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:28.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to deal with no movement.

1238
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Would you rather deal with one over the other?

1239
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:37.679
<v Speaker 2>No, I'll deal with them both. I think dog men

1240
01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:40.199
<v Speaker 2>just like to scare people. I don't think they really

1241
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:45.400
<v Speaker 2>feed on us necessarily. I think they just like I

1242
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:50.440
<v Speaker 2>think they. I think it feeds them, our fear feeds them.

1243
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:53.880
<v Speaker 2>How bad they can scare the crap out of us

1244
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:57.639
<v Speaker 2>because there's not well, there are a lot of disappearances

1245
01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:01.840
<v Speaker 2>that not necessarily dead. Not the government's gonna, you know,

1246
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:06.320
<v Speaker 2>admit to so who knows. I know they eat people.

1247
01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I know that, so I guess I shouldn't be so

1248
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:14.079
<v Speaker 2>not afraid.

1249
01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:17.400
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not afraid of either one of them.

1250
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Actually, the only problem I would have about dying is

1251
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:24.559
<v Speaker 2>that people who have just come behind me and clean

1252
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:28.679
<v Speaker 2>up my mess. That's what I'm trying. I mean, you

1253
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:31.519
<v Speaker 2>know all the things that left behind, you know it

1254
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:35.840
<v Speaker 2>would be on them. I'm not afraid of these things necessarily.

1255
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:38.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm just afraid of how many people I'd be putting

1256
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:40.199
<v Speaker 2>out if I got eaten by one of them.

1257
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:43.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't mind dying dying. He's had a wife that

1258
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:44.480
<v Speaker 3>died in my arms.

1259
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:47.719
<v Speaker 2>So and she she came back and told me what

1260
01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:51.159
<v Speaker 2>was like up there. So I'm I'm well versed about

1261
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:53.519
<v Speaker 2>what happens after you die, and I ain't scared of

1262
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:57.320
<v Speaker 2>none of it. It's just like you just take a

1263
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.119
<v Speaker 2>big short nap, that's all. Just clonk me on the

1264
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.480
<v Speaker 2>head and have a river too.

1265
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry that Joy lost your wife.

1266
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:09.519
<v Speaker 2>That that's okay.

1267
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:13.840
<v Speaker 3>I got another girl, gotcha kids?

1268
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Did that happen before I took her?

1269
01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I took her there one I took her there one time,

1270
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.239
<v Speaker 2>as a matter of fact, and we were down at

1271
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:25.039
<v Speaker 2>a place where I used to go see in pretty

1272
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:29.079
<v Speaker 2>close the same area, and I'm telling her a story

1273
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:31.519
<v Speaker 2>about you know, the history of the place and where

1274
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:32.880
<v Speaker 2>we used to come out and hang out and do

1275
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:35.719
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. And trees start shaking at the top

1276
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:37.480
<v Speaker 2>of the ridge on the other side of the creek,

1277
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:42.159
<v Speaker 2>and there was really not necessarily any wind, and it

1278
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:44.639
<v Speaker 2>was only like three trees, and they kept just like

1279
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:48.079
<v Speaker 2>swaying and swaying and back and forth, and you look

1280
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:50.159
<v Speaker 2>up and down the ridge from one thing to the other.

1281
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:54.159
<v Speaker 2>It's just these three trees. And they just kept interrupting

1282
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:57.360
<v Speaker 2>my story because it was making noise. So I looked

1283
01:07:57.400 --> 01:07:59.000
<v Speaker 2>up and I just yelled up the hill. I said,

1284
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll be with you in a minute.

1285
01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:02.360
<v Speaker 3>And it stopped.

1286
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:08.360
<v Speaker 2>When one blowing real hard. There's a little, you know,

1287
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:14.599
<v Speaker 2>three five mile hour breeze, and she said something like.

1288
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:16.840
<v Speaker 3>What's going on up there? I said, I don't know.

1289
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Hams all the time, and then we left. I remembered

1290
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:25.359
<v Speaker 2>that the other day. I know all this sounds crazy,

1291
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.039
<v Speaker 2>but it's all horribly true.

1292
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to me, it's not crazy at all, because

1293
01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I hear versions of this every single day, and it

1294
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:44.600
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely wild how how many people are experiencing things

1295
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:48.479
<v Speaker 1>like this all across the US. And people don't realize that,

1296
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:52.239
<v Speaker 1>but I hear right them every single day. It is

1297
01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Speaker 1>absolutely wild.

1298
01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:00.520
<v Speaker 2>My only hope. Not my only hope. I have many hopes.

1299
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:08.800
<v Speaker 2>But insofar as this regard, I want people to imagine

1300
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:11.960
<v Speaker 2>themselves as a sasquatch. What they have to deal with,

1301
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 2>how cold it gets, how they don't have shoes, how

1302
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.119
<v Speaker 2>they don't have blankets, and so you know, why are

1303
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:20.479
<v Speaker 2>you're going to get upset if you know the last

1304
01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:22.600
<v Speaker 2>thing you need to worry about is running them out

1305
01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:25.760
<v Speaker 2>of the spot that they had picked that day to survive,

1306
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:28.279
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden they got to pick up

1307
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:31.039
<v Speaker 2>and run and go somewhere else. I want people start

1308
01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:32.840
<v Speaker 2>thinking about what they're doing for they go out and

1309
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:35.000
<v Speaker 2>start messing with these things, they need to leave them.

1310
01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:37.960
<v Speaker 2>They don't have to leave them alone. They can walk

1311
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:39.880
<v Speaker 2>out there. Just keep your mouth shutting up.

1312
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:40.399
<v Speaker 3>Same thing.

1313
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Don't make any noise, don't make any racket, don't bring

1314
01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:46.000
<v Speaker 2>any friends. We bring a friend or two if you

1315
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:49.880
<v Speaker 2>need to. But they need to start imagine what it'd

1316
01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:52.039
<v Speaker 2>be like if it were them sitting on the side

1317
01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:55.640
<v Speaker 2>of that ridge and having to sleep outside and all

1318
01:09:55.640 --> 01:10:00.760
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. It's not that they're suffering. They evolved into that.

1319
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, they don't need weapons, they don't need

1320
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:10.000
<v Speaker 2>fire they're perfectly fine with the way they are. The

1321
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:14.359
<v Speaker 2>only problem they have with us is we make too

1322
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:17.760
<v Speaker 2>much noise and they're not allowed to be seen by us.

1323
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:21.720
<v Speaker 2>They have to run from us. But you know, there

1324
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:25.640
<v Speaker 2>comes a time where I think another thing. I mean,

1325
01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that they're not only duplicitess, they're quadplicitess. You know,

1326
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:34.439
<v Speaker 2>if it's an easy kill, and if they can know

1327
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:38.359
<v Speaker 2>on their own that there are no witnesses and you'll

1328
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:42.199
<v Speaker 2>never be heard or spoke of again, they'll take you.

1329
01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Never put yourself into that position. I mean, the things

1330
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:49.479
<v Speaker 2>I do that I used to do, I would say

1331
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:54.279
<v Speaker 2>are dangerous or not. Just don't don't do that on

1332
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:58.000
<v Speaker 2>a reg unless you have established a relationship with them,

1333
01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:00.680
<v Speaker 2>unless you know that you're going to be safe. But

1334
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:03.720
<v Speaker 2>there may come a day, even with me, they'll just come,

1335
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:08.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, they'll snatch me up. They've had enough time

1336
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:08.840
<v Speaker 2>for supper.

1337
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you've established a relationship with.

1338
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:17.319
<v Speaker 2>With the absolutely yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely see. I make

1339
01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:19.479
<v Speaker 2>sure you know, not the word the owner or anything

1340
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:20.920
<v Speaker 2>like that. When I go out in the woods so

1341
01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:23.800
<v Speaker 2>they can smell me. I want them to remember because

1342
01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:26.319
<v Speaker 2>my scent hasn't changed since I was a little kid.

1343
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:29.520
<v Speaker 2>It's still the same, and so they can smell me

1344
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.800
<v Speaker 2>for miles away.

1345
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:39.039
<v Speaker 1>How often are you are you talking to them out loud?

1346
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you find?

1347
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:42.199
<v Speaker 3>Well?

1348
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Not lately, I've shut myself in the house for a year.

1349
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Well all the time, I still do. But you know,

1350
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:53.760
<v Speaker 2>you can call that person a crazy person easily. I

1351
01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:56.640
<v Speaker 2>believe I'm in touch with them right now. I know,

1352
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I just know it. I mean, so far, I'm in

1353
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:08.239
<v Speaker 2>negotiations with them. Okay, guys, I got something I gotta

1354
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:09.680
<v Speaker 2>come up. I got it something, I got to come

1355
01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:11.399
<v Speaker 2>up there and do it. It's in their territory and

1356
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:12.239
<v Speaker 2>they ain't gonna like it.

1357
01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:15.920
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel you're connected to them?

1358
01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Huh, I'm part Indian. I'm connected to them because they

1359
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that they I was entertainment to them. There

1360
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.640
<v Speaker 2>was another thing I did like At the bottom of

1361
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that that creek I'm telling you about, at the top

1362
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:37.880
<v Speaker 2>of that, there's a there's a bluff and I used

1363
01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:40.039
<v Speaker 2>to want to get done running. I'd go up climb

1364
01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:42.840
<v Speaker 2>that bluff and get on top of that. There'd be

1365
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:46.520
<v Speaker 2>huckleberries up there and stuff to eat, and off to

1366
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:50.520
<v Speaker 2>the right and you can see see for miles from

1367
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:54.600
<v Speaker 2>top of that bluff and off to the right was

1368
01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:59.800
<v Speaker 2>a hawk's nest about seventy feet maybe one hundred feet

1369
01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:03.399
<v Speaker 2>in the growing in a big old tree. So I

1370
01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 2>devised a way to tie up a bunch of binder

1371
01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:11.319
<v Speaker 2>twine haybales. We had a lot of horses, so we

1372
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:14.039
<v Speaker 2>had binder twine everywhere. So I devised a way to

1373
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:17.640
<v Speaker 2>make my own rope and throw a rock over the

1374
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:23.319
<v Speaker 2>limb with a small string tied to the you know,

1375
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:25.279
<v Speaker 2>the big rope that I had made out of this

1376
01:13:25.399 --> 01:13:29.640
<v Speaker 2>binder twine, and it was double, so I had to

1377
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:31.880
<v Speaker 2>throw the rock over the limb. Then you pull the string,

1378
01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:34.319
<v Speaker 2>which pulls up the rope, which springs the other side down,

1379
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:36.399
<v Speaker 2>and you twist that together and you climb the tree

1380
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:39.640
<v Speaker 2>to get to the hawk class. I'm sure that was

1381
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:44.760
<v Speaker 2>an entertaining day for them because I did that. It

1382
01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:47.159
<v Speaker 2>was it was high. It was like, I mean, I

1383
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.720
<v Speaker 2>couldn't get the rock over the limb, that's how high

1384
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the limb was. And I'm good, I'm good at throwing stuff, baseballs,

1385
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:58.199
<v Speaker 2>you name it. And it took me a good twenty

1386
01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:00.600
<v Speaker 2>five thirty minutes. I had to sit down, take a break,

1387
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:02.720
<v Speaker 2>from throwing that rug just to get over the first

1388
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:06.880
<v Speaker 2>limb of that tree. Finally got it when I was

1389
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:08.760
<v Speaker 2>about to give up, and I pulled the thing up

1390
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and then I twisted around and I climbed that fifty

1391
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:15.720
<v Speaker 2>foot rope. I mean it was high, I'm telling you,

1392
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:20.399
<v Speaker 2>sent a big tree. Climbed up and saw the little chickens,

1393
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:24.399
<v Speaker 2>and instead of taking one, I decided just leave them

1394
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:27.560
<v Speaker 2>alone and climbed back down. And that was my exercise

1395
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:31.760
<v Speaker 2>for that week. So if there's any sasquatches around there,

1396
01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:36.720
<v Speaker 2>sitting there watching me, you know, making rope, not bringing

1397
01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:39.079
<v Speaker 2>a rope, making a rope just to get up to

1398
01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:44.079
<v Speaker 2>go look at these chickens, these redtail hawk babies, and

1399
01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:47.479
<v Speaker 2>they were there. I decided I just turn around and

1400
01:14:47.479 --> 01:14:54.760
<v Speaker 2>go back, no reason whatsoever. Hey, have you seen pictures

1401
01:14:54.800 --> 01:15:00.159
<v Speaker 2>of a guard of the gods, like good pictures of them? Yeah?

1402
01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:02.920
<v Speaker 2>P Have you seen that pedalstal out in front in

1403
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:03.720
<v Speaker 2>the middle of it.

1404
01:15:05.560 --> 01:15:09.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've seen pictures of the rock formations.

1405
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:12.359
<v Speaker 2>But you've seen that. You've seen the camel head, right,

1406
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:18.399
<v Speaker 2>the camel head there's that's that's it's I mean, as

1407
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:21.239
<v Speaker 2>far as I know, that's it's claim to fame. There's

1408
01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:22.560
<v Speaker 2>a camel.

1409
01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Head, is it?

1410
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

1411
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at it right now. So it's called camel Rock.

1412
01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Big for Society will be right back after

1413
01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:48.720
<v Speaker 1>these messages. Okay, Yeah, that's pretty cool.

1414
01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Can you see that? Can you see like a pedalstal

1415
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:55.720
<v Speaker 2>down below that? Yes, it looks like about Yeah. I

1416
01:15:55.880 --> 01:16:00.600
<v Speaker 2>jumped off of that over towards a camel head when

1417
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:02.479
<v Speaker 2>I was in the Navy. I got a picture of

1418
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:06.399
<v Speaker 2>it too, and so it's a bit a bit wide there.

1419
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:10.039
<v Speaker 2>That's how crazy.

1420
01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:13.159
<v Speaker 1>I weren't kidding around now.

1421
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:17.680
<v Speaker 2>And my reason for doing it was I was going

1422
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.520
<v Speaker 2>to ask my girlfriend to marry me that day, but

1423
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I just left it up to God to see, Well,

1424
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:24.840
<v Speaker 2>if I shouldn't marry this woman, why don't you just

1425
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.680
<v Speaker 2>kill me? So I jumped jumped out the rock and

1426
01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:30.880
<v Speaker 2>told her to take my picture as I'm doing it,

1427
01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:33.159
<v Speaker 2>and we're out there with our friends and stuff. Yeah,

1428
01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:41.399
<v Speaker 2>go ahead. That sounds like a good idea. Yeah, I twisted.

1429
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I twisted my ankle really bad, but you know, wound

1430
01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:45.640
<v Speaker 2>up marrying the girl.

1431
01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:50.319
<v Speaker 1>There you go, There you go, good stuff. Mark you

1432
01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you you've been through some really interesting stuff. It sounds

1433
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:55.960
<v Speaker 1>like you're still going through it.

1434
01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to get started. I'm trying to get started

1435
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:01.760
<v Speaker 2>back up again. I have finished living my life. My

1436
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:04.039
<v Speaker 2>body's just a little broke down from all the things

1437
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I've done. I used to live on a boat in Florida,

1438
01:17:07.479 --> 01:17:11.000
<v Speaker 2>out on the hook, not at a marina, just like rowing, sailing,

1439
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:14.640
<v Speaker 2>riding a bicycle twelve miles a day, and that's if

1440
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:18.119
<v Speaker 2>nothing went wrong to get to work come backs like

1441
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:20.960
<v Speaker 2>i've really there's a lot more to it to that,

1442
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:28.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's not sosquatch oriented necessarily, right, or maybe the

1443
01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:30.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe the occurrences that happened to me in Florida. I

1444
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:35.800
<v Speaker 2>haven't popped in my you know, minus two head yet

1445
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:37.720
<v Speaker 2>you know figured out later.

1446
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know sometimes you know, connections get made later

1447
01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:45.760
<v Speaker 1>on in life, and you know things might continue to

1448
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:49.000
<v Speaker 1>happen as well on the property that you're at.

1449
01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:52.000
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, oh, I sang two songs to a

1450
01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Bobcat in Florida one night. That was crazy driving to

1451
01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:00.520
<v Speaker 2>go to I guess I was on I may have

1452
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:02.520
<v Speaker 2>been on a beer runner. I needed cigarettes.

1453
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1454
01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I was living on a boat. So I got to

1455
01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:06.880
<v Speaker 2>my bike in this park that I lived in get

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01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:10.159
<v Speaker 2>down the driveway or go down going down the sidewalk

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01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:15.199
<v Speaker 2>out of this park, and there's a giant bobcat laying

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01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:19.279
<v Speaker 2>on the sidewalk just looking at me. So I slid

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01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:22.199
<v Speaker 2>my foot to a stop from about ten feet away

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<v Speaker 2>from this thing. So I'm not going anywhere. The Bobcat's

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01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:29.640
<v Speaker 2>not going anywhere. It's not looking unfriendly, but you know,

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01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:32.600
<v Speaker 2>it's looking at me like what you got for me? Now?

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01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:34.640
<v Speaker 2>So I sat there and I sang two songs to

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01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:42.479
<v Speaker 2>that bobcat. Finally it left. What were the songs songs?

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01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I wrote?

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01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I think so cool?

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01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Well there you go.

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01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:54.880
<v Speaker 2>So anyhow, it's kind of funny. I felt like snow white.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey maybe maybe you saved that.

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01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh I had another one that out see where I

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01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:03.319
<v Speaker 2>saw that sasquatch I had just Randy used to come

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01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:05.159
<v Speaker 2>in and wake me up every morning. I finally got

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01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:08.079
<v Speaker 2>to the point getting my chest and bark right in

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01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:11.880
<v Speaker 2>my face to get me awake. God damn, you get

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01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:15.119
<v Speaker 2>out of here. It's like I felt like snow white

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01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:15.560
<v Speaker 2>then too.

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01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:19.359
<v Speaker 1>That's that's two snow white things. So who knows what's next.

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01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:24.479
<v Speaker 1>But don't go eating any apples, I guess, but uh.

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01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:29.359
<v Speaker 3>No, right, away from those I don't have the teeth

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01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:29.720
<v Speaker 3>for it.

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01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:33.760
<v Speaker 1>There you go, Mark, keep us, keep us in mind

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01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:37.439
<v Speaker 1>if if anything else continues to happen once you get

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01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:40.119
<v Speaker 1>back out there. But thank you for sharing. What you've

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01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:43.239
<v Speaker 1>experienced so far has been it's been very unlightening. I

1485
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:45.359
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people are gonna are gonna learn

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01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:46.359
<v Speaker 1>some things from.

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01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:49.479
<v Speaker 2>It, well, I hope. So. I mean, I don't want

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01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:53.640
<v Speaker 2>anybody like this calling people crazy.

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01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Stuff needs to stop.

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01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.560
<v Speaker 2>It does yeah, you know, And like I'm not here

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01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:01.760
<v Speaker 2>a lie or promote. I'm not calling the next guy

1492
01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:04.640
<v Speaker 2>to tell my story. I just need to get this

1493
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:07.000
<v Speaker 2>out and just get it over with so I can

1494
01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:10.800
<v Speaker 2>move on with my life necessarily. I'm not looking to

1495
01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:14.319
<v Speaker 2>make a podcast get famous by any meanings, just don't.

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01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I want nothing to do with it. It has to

1497
01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:22.399
<v Speaker 2>I just gotta i don't know, maybe set the records trait,

1498
01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Maybe calm some people down, Maybe tell some people they

1499
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:29.680
<v Speaker 2>need to calm down. You know, there's just so many

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01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:32.159
<v Speaker 2>variables to this thing. It's like you just like when

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01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you ask me what do I think it is? You

1502
01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:36.880
<v Speaker 2>can't just call it one thing right right? You know,

1503
01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:38.960
<v Speaker 2>there's just too many things going on and you have

1504
01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:42.199
<v Speaker 2>to recognize what you're dealing with. Like I said, you

1505
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:43.960
<v Speaker 2>can go out west, you're going to find a completely

1506
01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:47.079
<v Speaker 2>different animal. Maybe they are field. Maybe they would just

1507
01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:50.039
<v Speaker 2>put their foot down and said this is our territory

1508
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:55.159
<v Speaker 2>and we have a zero tolerance policy. There's a place

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01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:57.399
<v Speaker 2>in Alaska they wiped the town out, like I think

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01:20:57.439 --> 01:21:00.920
<v Speaker 2>twice because they just didn't want them there and ran

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01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:06.000
<v Speaker 2>them out, killed a bunch of people. So some have

1512
01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:09.680
<v Speaker 2>a zero tolerance. Some are kinder than others. You know,

1513
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:11.920
<v Speaker 2>you just gotta you always have to know what you're

1514
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:14.439
<v Speaker 2>dealing with. So that's why I say, we can't just

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01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:15.640
<v Speaker 2>call these things one thing.

1516
01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:18.279
<v Speaker 3>And you know, look at them in.

1517
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know one, you know, and in one view,

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01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:27.319
<v Speaker 2>this is what they are. You know, they're not a gorilla.

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01:21:28.279 --> 01:21:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Sure you know what to do.

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01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:31.279
<v Speaker 2>You know what to do with a gorilla. You know

1521
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:33.279
<v Speaker 2>what to do with They all do the same thing.

1522
01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:36.359
<v Speaker 2>They're not a polar bear. They all do the same thing.

1523
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:42.560
<v Speaker 2>These things don't do the same thing anyway. So sorry

1524
01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:44.600
<v Speaker 2>for running on. I know you probably have to edit

1525
01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:46.760
<v Speaker 2>that out, but that's just what I think.

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01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, Mark, I appreciate you coming on. Man, If there's

1527
01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:52.560
<v Speaker 1>anything I can I can ever do to help out.

1528
01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't be afraid to you know, you can send me

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01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:58.600
<v Speaker 1>an email, but I appreciate you sharing your thoughts tonight.

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01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Man. All right, thanks for that. I appreciate that. I

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01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:03.159
<v Speaker 2>will if I have any questions, I'll give you a

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01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:04.079
<v Speaker 2>give you a.

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01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Bother, but probably don't count on it.

1534
01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:08.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna go.

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01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go find

1536
01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:15.079
<v Speaker 2>out now that I know, now that I know everything

1537
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:17.399
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna.

1538
01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Practically walk up to one of these things because I'm

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01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:22.800
<v Speaker 3>done from them making me look like a fool.

1540
01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd be interested to see how that how that goes.

1541
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:32.079
<v Speaker 1>If you do end up doing that, I'll let you.

1542
01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Know if I'm planning on going here in about a

1543
01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:36.279
<v Speaker 2>couple of months if I can, Okay, so I'll let

1544
01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:39.720
<v Speaker 2>you know. All right, all right, thanks Jeremi.

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01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Well I'll talk to you later. Thank you.

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01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:43.560
<v Speaker 2>You're welcome.

1547
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Have a good one, mark you too bad. Just want

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01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to take a few minutes to say thank you to

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01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:54.159
<v Speaker 1>you all my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please

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01:22:54.239 --> 01:22:57.439
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1557
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01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:25.560
<v Speaker 1>please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail

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<v Speaker 1>the Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon, McKinsey Bridge area,

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area, the north part.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get what I mean, I'll see you back

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01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:48.239
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