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Speaker 3: Nicholas, how are we doing this week, sir?
Speaker 5: Light Doing good? Good? How you guys doing?
Speaker 6: Uh you know, yeah, pretty good compared to yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of uh you know, a lot of
losses for the OTV squad this weekend.
Speaker 3: But it's okay. Where a day passed what we were yesterday.
Speaker 2: We're moving forward now, but we will reflect on the
performance that happened there in Buffalo, which I understand it
no moral victories in the National Football League, but there
were some positive things I think from the New Orleans
Saints after how it looked in Seattle. I'm sorry, no, no,
I'm just saying like there's no moral victories in the NFL.
But after what happened in Seattle, I think there was
a lot of things in Buffalo that you can actually say,
we're a positive for the Saints.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there are three and one moral victories this year.
Speaker 6: Let's go.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, it's about the process. I think you
need just to enter it with the you know, the
mindset and you're realistic about it. And I understand that
there's a lot of people out there that are that
are living and dying and want to see the win
every single week. And I mean, of course that that
that's the goal. But I think if you're looking at
it realistically, they probably were always going to start going four.
And I mean there's the threat of like, if you
don't beat the Giants this week, when when do you
get that win? And I mean if you're if you're
hanging on that, I mean, it's a it's a dark existence.
But if you're looking at it and you see it
for what it is and you're kind of expecting him
to lose every game, you're you're looking at Jonas Banker
and going okay, well, like there is one building block
established that's a win. The coach had a horrible time
of just getting his team lined up and getting a
snapoff in Seattle. One week later, he goes to another loud, hostile,
crazy environment and they're cleaned and they have a better
system for it, and they lose the guard who's sigling
the snap count, but a udf Rooky in and like
it remains clean. So like seeing those things makes me
believe in the process a little bit more. They played
them top oh them four is a terrible thing, you know,
And and Aaron Glunns in the same situation, and you
got Mike Greenberg coming for his neck, you know. So
like it's there, There is a standard in there. There
has to be like wins it at some point. But
like I'm just realistic about it, and I just don't
see a very good team. And I think they cleaned
up and played well, and I think you can hang
your hat on that for now. Like I do think
you know, you got the Giants, you got the Patriots,
you got the Bears. Like if you're all three through
that stretch, I think we're probably having a slightly different
conversation at the end of it, because at some point
you got to win a game, and that goes to
the quarterback especially. But I think right now, yeah, I
feel halfway decent about the team coming out of there.
I think their defense needs a lot of work. I
don't know that I see all the bright spots on
the line that I that I'd like to see. I'd
like to see that be a little bit tighter. But
you know, by and large, I think a lot of
things went okay for them in that game. Got some
run game going. So yeah, I mean there's definitely some
bright spots.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, let's keep it on the Buffalo game just
for just for a little bit longer. So the two
bright spots for me watching the game was, you're playing
Josh Allen. You can't hope to stop him, you can
only hope to contain him.
Speaker 6: Type situation.
Speaker 7: But they contained him for a decent He made his
plays throughout the game, but they made his life kind
of hell. They got after him a little bit, got
a couple of sacks. They made it difficult on him.
But then on the other side of the ball, the
running game looked great for most of the game. I
saw I wanted to see, like you've you've spent more
time kind of going back and watching watching the replay
of the game and everything, like, what was the key
contributors to the run game.
Speaker 6: I'm curious.
Speaker 7: Was it just because they were sitting there with a
light box daring them to throw it and saying beat
us with the run. Was it a been don't break
defense that they were playing again, or what contributed to
the success on the ground.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I mean it's a little bit of both. Like,
definitely that they got some light boxes, and I think
they did a couple of things to like really really
take advantage of that. They got a seventeen yard run
in a twelve yard run on the same look where
they put Alvin and they spread out, got Buffalo all
spread out, but Alvin in the slot kind of motioned
him into the backfield. They're handing the ball off, he's
taken up to the left side out of it, you know,
right through and there was just a golf of space
on the other side. Both times I've ran that, I
think it was first quarter and then early in the
third quarter was the twelve yard run. So like there
was a couple things like that. But the thing that
was the biggest difference in it is is they use
more outside zone in this game, they've been running a
lot of inside zone. They had ten plays outside zone
in this one. I think it was like four was
the highest in the first three games, and they got
a lot of yardage out of that. And then the
other thing is they went under center and they just
started handing the ball off, you know, that drive that
led into the Philly special play, like just went all
the way down the field, and we haven't seen them
do that really either. I think that was more about
just being able to like hear the cadence and everything better.
It's a line of scrimmage, but it was effective running
the ball, So I think both those things helped, you know.
And then when they're they're under center, they're they're running
a little bit more inside zone from that look, and I think,
you know, that just helped them get a little bit
more yards before contact. Coming into the game, they were
like zero point two yards before contact on inside zone,
and I mean, if you're running that from pistol, like,
it's like seven yards before you're you're at the line
of scrimmage. So I think it just kind of maybe
allows some of those those creases to pop open a
little bit more. I'm gonna be interested to see if
they mix that in because it was like strictly a
shotgun offense. I don't know, maybe out old school, but
like I feel like play action from understanders like kind
of just works a little bit better than back in
that shotgun. Look, maybe that helps open up some deep plays.
You create a tendency like, hey, you're gonna run from
this like every single time. Maybe you start out doing
it and then you break that tendency and pop a
big play or something like maybe maybe it opens up
a couple of wrinkles. But I think they just kind
of got a couple of different things going, you know.
And I thought we saw the differences in the Run
game for sure. And then you know, just Kendrick Miller
like that was an extremely important game for him, I
think too, just to kind of show everyone, but more
so show himself that like, hey, look I can be
I can be you know Option one B in this
Run game every single week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also show Dennis Allen for if he was
watching somewhere.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you about that pass at a lave through.
Speaker 2: Gosh, it just felt like such a big moment in
the game and you're trying to do something to give
you a spark there. It's like, you don't mind plays
like that, but if the play's not there, you got
to just you know, live to play another down. And
just that play felt like it took a lot of
emotion away from what the Saints had kind of built
up there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm at the same place, like I
don't like the play. I don't think I would have
ran it. It felt like they were moving the ball well,
but at the same time, I understand the process, so
like I can't sit here and like call it a
dumb player or anything like that. You know, I think
it was actually probably I took its like maybe honesty
from the coaching staff about what they think about their
red zone offenses. They thought, like, you know, running this
trick play is their best shot at getting in the
end zone because look, you look at the data, like
they just haven't been getting that area of the field,
and like they had done running the ball, but the
last two runs went for three yards. You're at third
and five. I didn't like the second yard pass either,
maybe though like I probably would have ran, I would
have kept running probably on second down and then maybe
you're at like third and two that's probably how I
would have approached you.
Speaker 6: But easy to.
Speaker 5: Stay in hindsight, man like cold Bishop, like you look
at that play like he's taken it, you know, and
then he and then he tosses back to a lave
on the on the reverse for the throat, like before
he even pitched the ball to the lave, he's breaking
from the other hash. It was like it was doom man,
Like he was just he's seen that thing just from go. Yeah,
it was an amazing play. You know. I didn't love it,
but I understand it. And look, you know, there's been
like kind of three critical moments now the the end
a half, first first week. What was the other one
it took the ball at a out of a Rattlers dance, man,
I can't remember. It was another August of the situation.
But there's been three now where there's been three things
where you kind of look at it and you're like,
man like, how come come they don't they like trusting
them to do this stuff. But I think it's just
kind of telling about, you know, what they think and
what they need to do to score points. But yeah,
it's been tough on there, and I think, you know,
I think there's a couple of little things that Ratler
definitely needs to tighten up over the next three weeks.
But yeah, that was a little bit telling.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't sit here and say that was a
bad play call because that was probably the most underrated
best defensive play of the weekend in college or pros.
It was incredible, Like the the safety on the front
side reads the play and makes a complete sprint of
a play to the backside is able to get the
ball like, that was an incredible play. So it's hard
for me to sit there and say, like, man, that
was a that was a bad play call, because if
he if he reacts like a split second slower, I'm
making it like it's a touchdown, right, So but you're right,
like it's you want to see them not have to
do those types of plays in that type of situation
to be able to put points onward. So it is
it is a little telling. But you know, Kellimore, he's
an offensive he's a creative guy. It is surprising to
me that that you brought it up, and I hadn't
really thought about it as the so much shotgun because
it's certainly not who they were in Philly and we
kind of talked about it on here. We're we're on
the same page with you too, Like you play actions
a lot better when you have the threat of a
little bit more of run under the center. Play action
is a lot better when a quarterback turns his back
to the defense, and that happens for the most part
under center.
Speaker 6: Now you can get to it.
Speaker 7: And pistol a little bit, but your back's not turned
for quite as long. I don't know, And it's so
far by hind a line of scrimmage just not the
same effect.
Speaker 6: Has that been progressively?
Speaker 7: I don't like it never stuck out to me watching
the game this past week, and but now, as you
say it, looking back, has that been progressively more and
more shotgun each week?
Speaker 5: It's done like exclusively shotgun every week until this week
they kind of they kind of a hit that drive
with it. And yeah, I think that was a problem
in Seattle too, like they couldn't hear nothing, and like,
you know, I think I messed up some of the
timing and everything, and they tried to switch it up
this week and then it worked well. But yeah, it's
kind of like it's kind of collegi ish man, like
you know, it's just like kind of standing back there,
like the whole entire game never understand it. Like play
action hasn't been really working at all for them, And yeah,
I don't know, Like again, I might I might have
like overdosed on the the Shanan era of the NFL,
but like play action married to like outside zone action
just feels like you get those linebackers moving out of
the way and then you're creating space and you know
you can you can just open a lot of stuff up,
and it's like their play action just really hasn't been
like doing anything. So I'm just kind of curious to
see if it if it kind of progresses a little
bit that your action, but that that's well, I would.
Speaker 7: Say like that, I would say probably the top five
offenses in the NFL, which would be which would mean
the entire world are pretty balanced between shotgun and underneath
the center. You look at the Lions and the Packers,
you look at even the bills are going under the center,
And I feel like Spencer looks pretty good under the center.
Speaker 6: He looks pretty comfortable.
Speaker 7: For a guy it's probably probably been pretty exclusive shotgun
in his college career. It looks pretty comfortable under them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, man, Like I don't. I don't necessarily
love the approach it again, yeah, I want to see
if it evolves a little bit, because you know, you
get a little bit of success there. Kellen doesn't expand
a lot on things at the podium, Like he's been
asked about the shotgun stuff, you know, a few times,
and he just said he likes the timing and space
of it. But yeah, I think it. I think it
definitely needs to find a way to be a little
bit more balanced. And you know, I think again, I
think it would just open up a couple of them shots.
And that's that's the big thing missing from the offense,
you know, and the whole league's kind of go in
that direction. You look and it's who are the passing leaders.
It's like Carson wentz to three hundred and fifty yards and
then everybody else has won seventy five two hundred. Like
it's just kind of getting, you know, oppressed a little bit.
And even even Josh Allen like didn't have a ton
of passing yards this week, and I think he's averaging
two forty a game, and you know, that's kind of
the standard which is way different than like seven years ago.
But you got to be able to a couple of
those shots down the field. And now, you know, I think,
I think for this team, with the talent they have,
the quarterback they have, like it's got to be manufactured
a bit. And yeah, I mean understanding play action. I
don't know, Like again, I might be an idiot, but like,
it just feels like that's the way to open maybe
some of that stuff up when you're a little bit
deficient in a couple of spots.
Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, I just looked it up.
Speaker 2: A shotgun percentage for the New Orleans Saints seventy one
point six percent of the time, pistol seven percent of
the time, under center nineteen point two percent of the time,
And so yeah, that math.
Speaker 7: Maybe it has something to do with it being like
first and second and forever for a lot of them,
for a lot of the season.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe certainly, Hey, let me ask you about two
guys though that potentially could come back in the next
couple of weeks. We talked about it earlier, Foster Morrow
and Taysom Hill opening that twenty one day window where
they can come out there in practice. What's the latest
on them and what do you think that those two
players can help this offense achieve when they do get back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I was supposed to see it.
But when I was going out there yesterday, like you know,
they were working out on a sidefield, and like Jayson
was like like running routes like it it looks like
at full speed. So I think he's extremely close. You know,
I think Foster's been ready to go. I mean, big
talent is added to the team, I mean tight end.
You know, I don't feel like they've gotten a ton
out of it. I'm going to be fascinated really to
see what they what they do with Taysom because like
I think, obviously you have to get him involved. He's
one of your best playmakers on offense. But I wonder
how deep into it they go. I wonder if they
used him more and like traditional positions, or are you
trying to like build a whole Taysum package and be
extremely unique and all that stuff around him, you know,
with the guy that's not going to be here for
probably you know, I would guess this is probably very
very close to the end of the road. So like
I'm just gonna be curious to see if like more
tries to build like an identity that he can keep
building upon, or like you go in centralized Taysom is
a central piece of your offense kind of the way
koobi Ac did last year, and then you know you're
you're screwed them when he gets hurt again and you
have trouble bringing it back. So I don't I don't
know how to put him into it, but like, I
think he obviously has to be a part of it,
and I think he's going to be. You know, I
think he's one of the few guys on that offense
that I think can be a reason, you know, you're
winning games. So I'm curious to see it. But I
you know, I also a foster. I think huge upgrade.
You know, I obviously one of the better blocking tight
hands on the team. He can you know, you trust
them to make some some you know, critical catches down
the stretch. Last year, I think his past catching ability
was really underrated. Like you know, they had all the
injuries and they kind of had to turn to him,
and you know, I felt like he stepped up big
down the stretch. So, you know, and I think Ratler
has a lot of chemistry with him, so that that
would be possibly a very very good addition for the team.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Nick, we asked you about I think last week
we asked you about who's the vocal leader on offense
And to me, like even just from a psychological effect
of getting Taysom Hill back, getting Foster a Row back,
to me, those are guys that can immediately step in
and take over that role of being the vocal guy.
It's hard to do it when you're sidelined with an injury,
but like they get to step in a huddle, I
feel like bring a little bit of a little bit
of weight behind their voice, weight behind them if they
are going to get off onto the offensive line or
whoever it is, but they bring a little bit that
extra like that, it factored to that that psychologically can
help everybody, especially a young quarterback, especially a unit that
has been struggling a little bit.
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be a good kind of
like a psychological effect.
Speaker 7: And to that point, your answer last week on the
vocal leaders of the offense, Caesar rus gets hurt, he's
out for what three to five weeks something like that,
and you got a guy, uh is it my saying
this name right?
Speaker 6: Towards Selly Simpkins.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I guess Foster was out of site,
out of mind when we were talking about that. But
I mean he's he's maybe the biggest standard bearer that,
you know what, Like the way he is a practice,
the way he gets on guys, the way he leaves
like it. You know, it stands out among like anybody
I've ever seen on a field. And you know, I
was around the twenty tenth Patriots and you know these
Saints with your reason, you know, all them guys like
like Foster is like like head cracking leadership, like holding
people to a standard I think is on par with
like anybody I've seen. So yeah, it's just that that
aspect of getting him on the field around the young team,
you know that they got the penalty spinning up like
stuff like that, Like he's somebody that you just just
heared like tearing into people for you know, messing up
the details. And I think that helps, especially when you
have this type of you know, coach that that's you know,
kind of more laid back personality, having a player that
can kind of be your your bulldog and you don't
got to ask them to show up as the bulldog.
I think it is quietly a big deal. All right.
Speaker 2: There is our guy, Nick Underhill, New Orleans, dotch Football
joins us every single Tuesday here on the show, Nicholas.
One of these days we are going to have you
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and it might come this week against the Giants, and
so we look forward to that day.
Speaker 5: You got to beat the Giants.
Speaker 7: Yes, when the Saints get that win, we're gonna get
you on video call. Yeah for sure, so we can
see that. All right, it's the Saints when we got
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'll be there.
Speaker 3: Right perfect, all right, appreciate it, Nick, All.
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You're listening to off the bench.
Speaker 6: The team has gone a lot and your mound by
all right, welcome back. Did you say hi? No, I
said I. I said, like a Nick Saban I off
the bench.
Speaker 7: I uh so, Jake, I want to ask you about something.
It's a stat that I started looking up yesterday in
the NFL, and you were a special team's war daddy
for a long time, like special teams thus far in
the NFL through four weeks. Four weeks, oh yeah, through
week four in the NFL has made like the biggest impact.
I remember special teams doing it, like a stretch of
four game stretch that I remember in a long time.
And I started looking at you know, of course we've
had like the Saints had a big return against them.
There's been returns in different situations. I know, like the
kick off rules have really improved the game on the kickoff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cowboys, I mean benefited greatly against the Packers. Huge
so great returns.
Speaker 7: But one big thing that is sticking out to me
in the special teams world is field goal blocks.
Speaker 6: Okay, I started looking up the stats.
Speaker 7: It popped up Sunday night when the Packers got an
extra point blocked and they returned to the is a
three point difference right there. That's a three point swing.
So I looked up and said, in twenty twenty four
a total of eighteen all season, eighteen blocked field goals
or pats. In twenty twenty four through four weeks in
the NFL, thirteen blockeden field goals or pats.
Speaker 6: So my question is is is this just a fluke?
Speaker 7: Is this just a random like we're just going through
a slew of blocks here, or is this an emergence
of different blocking schemes, different blocking technique?
Speaker 6: Taller people, like, what are we doing?
Speaker 7: Or are these big leg kickers that are making sixty
sixty plus yards? Are they just like inherently in their
mind they're having a hard time controlling the trajectory because
of course the longer the field goal, the lower the ejectory.
Speaker 3: We've had to put that thing down.
Speaker 7: What I mean, is this just a fluke, like from
a war Daddy standpoint, like, that's a shocking number to me.
Thirteen blocked field goals or extra points in the first
four weeks.
Speaker 2: And some of them have not been of long distances either. No,
they have on extra point, well extra point for sure,
like the extra point. Now the extra point is backed up.
So I do think there's a more point of emphasis
for these special teams coaches to try to go after
it a little bit because before it was automatic. Hell,
you could even block it sometimes, and it was such
a short distance it would still go in right, even
if you've got a hand on it.
Speaker 3: So I think that probably plays into it.
Speaker 2: And I think that these special teams coaches see an opportunity,
and they see an opportunity.
Speaker 3: To try to stop points get points.
Speaker 2: And you see like you'll see some unique guys in
there on field goal block now too, in some different positions.
Speaker 3: You see it kind of all levels of football.
Speaker 2: But I think special teams has certainly been more of
a point of emphasis over the last couple of years
with all the new rule changes.
Speaker 3: Because like we saw who did it cost Tata? You
probably know this. You watch the NFL, like every single game.
Speaker 2: Which team was the Cardinals that didn't kick it inside
the landing zone? And so yeah it is Cardinals Vikings,
right are Seahawks?
Speaker 3: Cardinals?
Speaker 2: Seahawks saw Sam Darnold with thought Vikings they didn't kick
it inside the landing zone and so they started the
possession on the forty They one completion field goal game over.
So like, I think I think there's a lot of Hey,
we've always air quotes, taken it seriously because some teams
I was on did not That's why we were first
in offense first, and defense thirty second and special teams
that didn't make a playoffs. But I think now you
realize that you can win a game by doing one
little thing on special.
Speaker 7: Well, look, you can go back two weeks ago the
Eagles first, the Rams right MS one, Like, they beat
the Eagles for four quarters. They had two blocked field
goals in that game. Two blocked field goals, one for
a touchdown at the end, and they lose by the spread. Yeah,
they lose by seven points. The Rams should have won
that game. And the Eagles, I mean, they're they're so good,
they're so talented, but two blocked field goals in a
game that.
Speaker 6: Is unheard of?
Speaker 3: Are you like the Eagles out?
Speaker 2: Like when you look at the Eagles personnel though, they
really do have like the perfect people and have giants
that are athletic, they can be right there in the middle.
But also remember that Rams kick was low low kid.
But one of these kickers too, at least one of
them wasn't long. No, it was thirty seven yards. So
I think these these kickers, to your point, you might
have actually found something here. I think because now they're
bombing everything and like a fifty eight yard field goal
is almost automatic now, which is just ludicrous, that maybe they.
Speaker 3: Have changed kind of the way they drive the football.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 7: It's incredible, Like you go, there was was it Sunday
night the Packers kicker, I think at the end of
the aff or something.
Speaker 6: I can't remember when it was. No, it was the
end of the game. He kicked them.
Speaker 7: It was like a forty seven yard whatever, forty seven
forty eight, which is like a chip shot these days.
I feel like it went over the uprights like it
was like it was. It would have been good for
eighty I had. Like these guys are just like strolling
up to the ball and kicking.
Speaker 2: I mean, we just had the Bucks kicker just he
set the outdoor record for longest field goal in NFL history, right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Chase the McLaughlin sixty five. But they were looking
at replacing him two weeks ago because he missed like
two forty yarders. Yeah, then he's out here hitting a
sixty five the next week.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a real weapon. Looked at the Chargers
kicker Caim Dicker.
Speaker 2: He is the most accurate kicker in NFL history, and like,
that is a real weapon that you have that these
guys are making. Like you feel like Matt, if you
get over a midfield at this point, you might have points.
Speaker 3: I just get over the line.
Speaker 7: So I guess it's like a giver or take situation
because forever kickers, I made a fifty yard field goal
was a long field goal. Uh. But special teams coordinators
they evacuate everything when it comes to a kicker. I mean,
there's there's a lot of people that can kick a
football in the world. There's a lot of people that
can pun a football in the world. Deepsna a football
they look for like little things, and I think one
of the things that they always look at is the trajectory.
How high can you get the ball fast right make
it impossible to block it. I'm thinking, and I don't
know this, I'm just from what I see on the field.
Thirteen block field goals to date compared to eighteen blocked
all of last year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like there's a mindset right now.
Speaker 7: It's like we want if we get to the midfield,
we want to have the threat of getting points, and
maybe we give up a little trajectory on our cause
it's going to be hard to go from kicking a
sixty five yard field goal to kicking a thirty yard
You got to get it up.
Speaker 2: So also special teams coaches are realizing, hey, guys, if
they get across the midline, here have like past midfield
almost is like we're going to least attempt to kick, right,
I mean most of so these special teams coordinators that
are also putting together the block, like I think they
do realize, we gotta spend some more time on this,
Like we gotta come up with something because in the NFL,
you know how it is, it's always like, Okay, here's
this thing, here's this new thing.
Speaker 3: And then these other coaches are like, well, we got
stopped the new thing. How do we stop? How do
we slow down the new thing?
Speaker 2: Well, the new thing in the NFL is let's go
kick fifty five to sixty five field goals.
Speaker 7: Right, That's the thing to me, Like this field goal
has been around a long time, and all of a sudden,
like right now, coaches have figured out a way to
make people's make people taller and bigger, and like just
now figured out a scheme to block field goals more.
But it's it's starting to become commonplace, which is wild
because I remember, like if you saw a block field
goal in the game that you were a part of,
it was something special you were watching, Like that doesn't
happen unless it's just a terrible kick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, war teams, special teams, war daddies are people too, Matt.
Speaker 6: Sure are.
Speaker 7: It's just playing. It's playing such a big part. And
I didn't even put in block punts in that scenario.
There's been a bunch of black punts. People are getting
really aggressive. The ball you saw who is a Buffaloes
kicker punter nearly snaps his leg. Wasn't that Buffalo?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Oh speaking off Tyreek Hill last night, jee, that was
an ugly one dated a kneecap right, Uh did y'all
see it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: It did not look at us. It's tore multiple ligaments
including acls.
Speaker 6: What I oh was it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 6: Man, No, it looked bad. They had him in like
the bubble cast and yeah it was groose.
Speaker 3: How's a bad game, all right?
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pistol is shotgun, and I don't know why they put
it in a different category. They put a pistol in
a different category. Yep, I guess because it's like technically
like shotgun number offensive plays that are not under the center.
Speaker 3: Anybody will take a guess, LSU.
Speaker 2: Somebody's asking us how many percentage of the place for
LSU or out of shotgun?
Speaker 6: Okay, pistol doesn't count a shotgun?
Speaker 2: No, I added pistol, added pistol still a gun? Eighty
Matthew out of shotgun? Yes, Las Tigers, Yes, I'm going
to say ninety eight point seven a laundra is the
closest ninety two point five percent of the time they
are in shotgun, So like what they're calling like just
actual shotgun seventy nine point fives still thirteen percent, and
then under center seven point five percent.
Speaker 6: Seven point five percent, Okay.
Speaker 3: Because I think like some of the gold line stuff,
and they have had a.
Speaker 2: Couple of plays they had like two reverses I think
to a receiver out of they were underneath and kind
of like a toss to a So.
Speaker 7: I'm guessing about seventy five average of seventy seventy five
plays a game times five games, that's three hundred and
seventy five total plays. If you take what you say
seven point five percent, that can actually give you that's
twenty eight plays under center.
Speaker 3: I think it was twenty five when I looked, I'm
pretty sure actually was belave that.
Speaker 2: So did we have a victory formation of victory formation
probably counts, yeah for sure as under center.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to this point you've won every game before
last week.
Speaker 7: So now I'll take out the pistol is a weapon.
It's not a philosophy again, it's a weapon to use.
Speaker 2: It's it was a philosophy at a place like Nevada. Yeah,
when they had Colin Kaepernick and that's what they ran.
They were they were the first one to run pistol
and that was there, Like that's for a group of
six football is there philosophy? And now look, I love
you can do them things. I love running zone out
of pistol. I loved it because it was the same
for me. I was still gonna be toes at seven.
I was gonna be open, crossover and get the ball.
Speaker 7: And you have to you have to a lot of
teams will put the toes for the running back toes
at eight and leave the quarterback the same. You're gonna
go pistol. You move your quarterback limitations. You know, you
got to move your quarterback up a yard to four
instead of five. Let's probably toes seven and a half.
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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves gets off the
bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in OTB here on this Tuesday afternoon.
A couple more segments for you before we get out
of here. And one of the things that I was
just thinking of, because you had a lot of conversations
about how do we get this LSU run game going,
and I was like, wait a minute, hold up. I
went to practice a couple of times and I remember
seeing a lot of Juwan Johnson who started running back
and maybe but that maybe that's the reason because he
had to give a started running back and play more
running back than anticipated. But Tye, you went to camp
more than I did. You couldn't go out there, certainly
at the beginning of camp and not see Juwan Johnson
take direct snaps. So a lot of people are talking
about like adding a quarterback run element to your offense,
like that was something that was early and often when
you go to camp, it.
Speaker 8: Was it was every practice, I mean first drives, like
they had a formation where it was actually Malachai lane
walk on running back Caden Durham. They were kind of
the two lead blockers for Juwan john I mean it
was quarterback power straight to him with two running backs
his lead blockers.
Speaker 6: I mean they did it on the goal line a lot.
Speaker 8: They did it it they would do it inside like
the little red zone packages we saw. I mean we
saw that pretty much every single time I.
Speaker 3: Was out there.
Speaker 6: I hadn't seen it once.
Speaker 2: I mean I saw I went to four five practices
and I saw it a ton, Like I didn't even
think about that because you know, you get in the
season and you like none that was something they worked on.
So I wonder why that has not shown up, why
they haven't really maybe given over to at least trying.
Speaker 6: For saving it. Noah shouldn't say anything. We're saving it,
setting them up.
Speaker 7: Got everybody else, got the reci of people on our
schedule right where we want them where, right.
Speaker 6: Where we want them.
Speaker 3: Just a thought.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of bama a gump, I'm kind
of I'm with you, like I have an idea run
the ball, I'm with you. I'm just of things that
we saw in camp. That's something we haven't seen. And
I know Taylor mentioned it a ton.
Speaker 3: I know I saw it.
Speaker 2: You saw the day that you probably went out there
and just something you hadn't seen. But going back to Bamacomb, yeah, hey,
hey we're going to run thirty four zone on one
on one ready?
Speaker 6: How many passes did Nust throw those days when they
were working on that a lot.
Speaker 8: When they were working on it, it was kind of
exclusively that so like they they did a goal line,
but what we saw most was like lining up at
the ten so gold to go situations. They ranted a lot,
And I mean Nus was a receiver a few times,
which that's never going to be a threat. To anyone,
no offense figure out Nelsemeyer. But no, I mean they
kind of exclusively did that for a couple of periods.
Speaker 3: I'd rather go three and out an I formation.
Speaker 7: Just think back in the day, though, Like let's let's
take a trip down Laying eleven years ago, twelve years ago,
when our quarterback was lined up in a power formation
and he was pointing behind his back for the power.
Speaker 6: Nine talis and well, I mean the direction is going.
How much we hated it.
Speaker 3: Dag did that this last game against the Packers. He
did it. He got back and pointed which way. But
he didn't do it thirty eight times a game.
Speaker 2: I didn't say that, I just said he did it. Hey,
there's a thing called a balance of what we're talking.
Like when I watched the Buffalo Bills, they were and
gun here under center, there, a little run here, a
little past there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So I was just wondering if it was like one
of those prizes were dud didn't throw it a lot? Yeah,
two points from the Torso injury. I didn't know there
was a lot of practices like that, met I know,
I mean was weird. It's like there's something wrong.
Speaker 8: There was a pitch count, because you know, quarterbacks are
one of those all the time.
Speaker 6: Everything's fine, everything's fine. Guys all right where we want them.
Speaker 8: I also think it's convenient that the scrimmage of the
media was allowed to go to in Tiger Stadium. Nelson
Meyer did not throw a pass. But don't worry, Kelly
said the scrimmage that was closed to the media the
week before, here was a full participant.
Speaker 5: So not to work.
Speaker 6: There we go.
Speaker 7: Until we're good. Well, well let's there. Here's here. You
want to hear some facts. Though we got one loss.
Most people are predicted to be ten and two, so
we only got one. Right now, a lot of season left.
Speaker 3: You got a mulligan.
Speaker 6: I don't need one, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying, but you can use it. If
he said ten and two, yep, he still got one more.
Speaker 6: He still got one more to give. Still make the playoffs.
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 7: Those are just facts. We're giving a lot of opinions today.
You want facts. We just got one loss. It's very true.
Speaker 6: It's very true. We gonna make the playoffs. Make a run.
Jarret Torso be healed up by them.
Speaker 3: You heard it here first.
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Speaker 6: Don't even work out.
Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, nope, all right, we'll take our last break.
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