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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. We are live

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brings us a w Blood and Guts from the first

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Horizon Coliseum in Greensboro, North Carolina, Carolina. Hey, at least

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I didn't say American. This week, Ricky the Dragon steamboat

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will be there to nature boy, rick where will be there?

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The show will be highlighted by two blood and Guts matches.

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So I have a question for the podcast team, how

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would you structure aw Dynamite, especially with the with the

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blood and guts matches? And which of the blood and

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guts matches do you think should main event the show?

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Speaker 3: I think the women should main event. You know it

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was announced a while ago. I think it's head.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to say it's had a better deal build,

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but it's head. The focus has been on every woman

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in that match, like those twelve women are the core

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of the division. It's the first time you're having a

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women's blooding guts match. I don't see how you don't

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main event with that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good, Okay, I back that.

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Speaker 5: I think the women should be the main event.

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Speaker 6: But the problem is there's in between matches. You getta

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raise that cage back up and down again and stuff.

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I believe there's a Will hop isn't there a Will

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Speaker 5: Adam Page match? Yes, so that's in between that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you started off first with the

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men's and get that storyline line out of the way,

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because I get the feeling that people don't care.

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Speaker 5: About that as much. I don't particularly, but some people

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may and just have.

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Speaker 6: But the ladies has to be last, I think because

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it's a big moment and there's more storyline and I'm

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more interested in see that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't forget now that tomorrow night show is two

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and a half hours long, so the main event is

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going to go past a lot of people's bedtimes. Matt,

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what do you have to say about this?

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Speaker 1: I would like to see the women start things off.

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Actually really really excited for the women's blood and cuts matches,

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so I'd like to see them open the show. Maybe, yeah,

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have hang down in Hobbs later because I have a

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feeling that with that Samoa Joe is gonna intervene, so

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they could kind of leave that hanging at the end.

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You know what's gonna happen there, what's happening next? And yeah,

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that's my take on it, all right, what about you, Marcus?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I would actually like to see the women open

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the show. Kind of get the hottest crowd behind them.

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Another grad is probably gonna be hot all night, get

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that moment, get them going out there first. I mean

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them main eventing would be good, but I would actually

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like to see them open the show with the women.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of tore it on this part of

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me really want Hangman and Hobbs to open the show.

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I'm sure there's gonna be more matches announced, because as

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of right now, there's only the three matches, and two

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of them are the Blood and Guts. And I don't

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know how long the Blood and Guts are going to go,

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but just considering that the women's match has more combatants

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in it, two more, it's gonna take that much longer.

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Of course, the match could end at any time, but look,

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it's stupid to think that the match is gonna have

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before everybody comes out because they've been waiting so long

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for everyone enters the right. Oh, that's right, that's right.

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I'm thinking I'm thinking something else. I'm think at the

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casino match. But what you know anyway, Yeah, the match

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can only end by submission or just giving up. So yeah,

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submissioners surround two s's. But look, let's go ahead and

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talk about the men's blooding guts. Is there anything that

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you see or expect or want to see happen during

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the men's blooding guts match.

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Speaker 4: I'm just expecting a whole lot of crazy vilast I mean,

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you've got Darby Allenson saying Moxley Brisco. I mean, you

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have some crazy bastards in this match who are gonna

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and I feel like a lot of people, I don't

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know about a lot that people have been like, yeah,

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we really need a men's so they may be kind

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of wanted to be like, shut the hell up, idiots,

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us ever again. So I'm just expecting craziness. And I

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mean Darby tries to light someone on fire.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, do you think that, Uh, one of the

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questions that I've had, You know that I've been asking

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myself looking at this, Chris is uh m, how do

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you think the teams are stacked up? I mean, does

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everybody fit in this type of match?

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Speaker 4: I would say Orange Cacity doesn't really fit. But we've

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seen him have you know, crazy matches before where he

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does really well. I think I almost think the fact

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that he doesn't fit makes him a good fit, Like

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you know what I mean, It's kind of like one

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of those right, it shouldn't work, but it will. That's

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what kind of my tack everyone else, you know, I

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think they said, I know I've heard on here it

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was mid Card All Stars, but if you look at

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the death Riders outside of Moxley, who is the main inventner?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Now, I know that some people have said that

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they hope that this is the end of the death Writers. Mkay.

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I know that you've not been a fan of the

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Death Writers. Do you think that this is the end

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of the Death Writers? In One Fell Swoop at Blood

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and Guts?

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Speaker 3: I hope.

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Speaker 6: So I really do don't see anywhere else to go.

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I'm thinking Box is going to surrender somehow, uh and

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cost them, and then they're going to turn on him

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or something of that effect.

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Speaker 5: I really do hope so.

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Speaker 6: Like I said a bunch of times in this podcast,

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I just feel this has gone on too long. This

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is the perfect way to end it on their type

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of match, and if they can't win their type of match,

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then they don't need to be a stable anymore.

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Speaker 2: Right, Who who is it that has the advantage in

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this match? Is it? Is it the uh? Is it

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the death Writers?

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Speaker 1: The death Writers only seem to really have an advantage

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when they're together.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about I'm talking about the actual advantage, Like.

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Speaker 7: Oh, Darby, it's the good guys, Oh, the good guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think so. I think Darby has a lot,

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a lot going for him. I used to not be

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that much of a fan of Darby, but he has

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really grown on me. So I can see the good

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guys pulling off a win with this, and I do

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think it's going to be the end of the Death Riders.

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Something I noticed is we're hearing a lot more from

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from from Pac and I a Puck and I think

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that he's going to somehow have something to do with

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the big ending, the big finale, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am Yeah, he has been a lot more,

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although I wor I could think of it. He's taking

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more of like a leadership role of the Death Riders.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think he's empowered by pants. That was

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the trick to him all along, it is putting him

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in a pair of.

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Speaker 2: Pants and cutting his hair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's really been out there, are you.

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Speaker 2: Are you satisfied? Are you satisfied about with how well,

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for lack of better words, moist he's been in the

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last few weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think he's been an adequate amount of there's an

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adequate amount of moisture.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the dude is definitely the wettest guy in a w.

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Speaker 1: I think he just he comes right out of the

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shower and just runs to the.

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Speaker 2: Ring exactly right out of the swimming bowl, Okay, right

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out of the dakuzzi of the ring. Yeah. Well, Marcus,

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let me ask you a question here, when uh, when

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this blood and guts match starts. Let's look at strategy here,

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who do you think is the first in the ring

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for both the uh, well, the good guys and the

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bad guys, the Conglomeration and the.

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Speaker 7: Death Claudio And I was gonna say Orange Cassidy, but

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I think it's gonna be Claudio and Kyle Ray.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense what you said, Claudio. I was thinking,

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well that it makes sense for it to be Orange

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Cassidy because those two have a little bit of a

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thing going on. Yeah, I was thinking about it because

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you definitely yeah, I mean, when you think about it, Marcus,

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you I mean, you definitely have to put somebody that

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has stamina in there, and you know, and well Claudio

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can do it. I actually, pretty much everybody at the

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Death Writers has the stamina to do these long matches.

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I don't know if Kyle O'Reilly has has the stamina

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to go from the very beginning of the match all

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to the end. You know.

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Speaker 1: You know, while we're talking about Kyle O'Reilly, I really

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don't like the way that he's been booked. He is

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actually a really, really good wrestler and he is in

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all of these matches where he's just getting beaten, and

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I don't like the congomeration and whatever they're doing there.

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don't like it. I wish Kyle O'Reilly won more. He's

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he's actually a good strong wrestler, and it's almost clownish

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the way he is to me, and I just I

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don't like it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, I kind of feel differently. I like

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the side of Kyle, the goofball. He can wrestle and stuff,

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but he's he's almost pushed Max to his limits, and

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and maybe he's the one who makes Mark tap out

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or or something, or he gets revenge on Max.

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Speaker 1: I hope. So, I hope you're right. It would be

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Speaker 2: So I think everybody kind of wants to see Wheeler

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I want to go back to Marcus here because you

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were the last to go in the first question. So

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I'm gonna ask you the question that I think everybody

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wants to know. Uh well, two two part question. Who's

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gonna bleed first? And how do you see this match

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playing out? I mean, what is the end result? Not

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necessarily the winner, but what is the end result of

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what goes on in this match? What would you like

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to say?

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Speaker 7: First question of who I think is gonna bleed first?

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I think it's gonna be Orange Cassidy he's someone that

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looks good bleeding like, he can bleed like a lot.

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It'll show throughout the mask. That's why if he starts

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it like, he's someone that can take a good beating.

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But as far as how I think it's gonna play out,

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I think the majority of people can see this match

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kind of being a story with box and boxing. How

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is he going to behave in this match? Is he

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gonna be the one that quits? Is he gonna be

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the one that surrenders for someone else?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 7: How is it gonna work out him? And that's I

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think how it's gonna come out. I think it's gonna

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be down to box on whether he taps or so

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or he's surrendered, and that's how the endings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's go to let's go to time, Chris,

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What do you think.

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Speaker 4: As far as a tough question, I betta go with

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whoever enters the ring Smith is gonna be the first police?

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Speaker 2: You think it's gonna take that long for somebody to bleed?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 4: I think because it's five minutes, you know, to winner,

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and then five for five minutes and then it's thinking

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what like every Yeah, I think so that's really not

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that long when you think about it. The fifth person that's,

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you know, nine ten minutes into the match.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 4: As for the finish, I wanted this for the E

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Quick match, so I've wanted to get here since it

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didn't happen. Darby Allen threatens to set Wheeler Yudah on

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fire and Monstley is like, whatever, I don't give a

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shit about that little ship. To set Daniel Garcia on fire.

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It's like, no, no, I actually care about him. I

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actually liked him. I I don't know why I want

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that finish, I just do. I know it probably won't happened,

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but I think it would be interesting and funny, and

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Bieler would be like what the hell man?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I want that to be the fas.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to m K. I had an additional

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question for you, m K. Of course, who's gonna bleed? First?

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How do you see this match playing out? And is

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there anybody that is missing from this match that you

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would have liked to have seen in this match? And

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I'm not talking about sworst Rick later, will Osbrey somebody

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that can be in the match that isn't in this match.

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Speaker 6: I don't know who else might putting this much. I

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think everyone's pretty pretty good in this match. I think

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it's gonna be Darby Allen is gonna bleed first because

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he's gonna get thrown.

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Speaker 5: He's will get.

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Speaker 6: Lawn darted into the into the cage, or he will

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get lown darted off of it into the crash pad.

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I just I once again, I'll say that the death

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Writers are going to lose. How I don't know it

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can be anything, but I think it's their time to lose,

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and it's their time to go away for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be a finite end

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to the Death Writers, but I do see something major happening.

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Maybe to get to that net same questions, who's going

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to bleed first? How do you see this match playing out?

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And is there anybody who is not in this match

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that you would have liked to have seen in this match?

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Speaker 1: I actually think that Moxley's going to bleed first. He's

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big on bleeding, and I think that Darby's going to

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get the upper hand early on him and he's going

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to bleed first. And someone I think that should be

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in it that isn't, Well, there's someone that I would

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like to see in a blood and guts match, and

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that's Will Hobbs. I know he has a match with Hangman,

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but I would like to see him in blood and

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guts matches more so than just about anybody. He seems

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like he's made for it. And what was the other question?

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I missed it?

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Speaker 2: Well, how do you think it's going to play out?

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Speaker 1: Oh goodness, I don't know. There's so many scenarios with that.

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I don't know, and I don't I don't think it's

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the end of the Death Riders either. I think there

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may be some fractures within them where we're left wondering

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what's going to happen, and maybe they'll pick that up

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in the future, but I don't think that there. I

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don't think this is the end of the Death Riders,

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and I do think that the good guys will end

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up coming out on top. But there's gonna be some

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kind of of something that leaves us wondering what's going

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on with the Death Riders. That's what I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as who's gonna bleed first, I think

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it's gonna be Mark Briscoe. He just seems like he

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would be somebody would bleed North Carolina. I don't know why.

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That's just the way he looks. As far as way

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it's going to play out, I agree with you, Ned,

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I think that this is going to not be the

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finite ed to the Death Riders, But I think something's

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gonna happen. And I like the word that you use, fractured.

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I think something's gonna happen that will that will definitely

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fracture and expose a weakness within the group. And that's

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what I think now. As far who I would like

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to have seen in this match and who isn't. Look

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if hangman Adam Page is the embodiment of cowboys shit,

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who is more of the embodiment of blood and guts,

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then somebody would no guts. The man with the missing

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seventy two feet worth of small intestines, Kenny Omega, I'd

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like to see him get ready and be able to

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go next year. I think that's one of the things

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that I would like to see. Let's get Kenny Omega,

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is you know, minuscule small intestines out there and do this.

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Speaker 1: Don Callus would lose his mind if it happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're gonna talk a little bit about Don

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Kallis and our pro pori because I think our propri

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resection is gonna probably be a very interesting discussion. But

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let's move on to the women's blood and guts now. Look,

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I'm gonna be honest with you, and I think I

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mentioned this before the show to somebody. I've made a

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post on the aw panhub subreddit about the men's blood

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and guts and about the women's bloody and the general

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consensus was not a whole lot of people really cared

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about the men's blood and guts match. It's just a match.

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A lot of people are invested in the women's blood

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and gut. Look, it's the first women's blood and guts

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match in aw's history. We know that they can do

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it because they've had aw's had so many women's hardcore matches,

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street fights and whatnot. But this is this is a

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new era. Two rings, one gauge, blood and guts. How

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do you guys see this panning out? Chris, let's go

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to you. What are you looking for in this match?

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Speaker 3: Ah, blood and violence and craziness.

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Speaker 4: We've seen you know, Julia Hart Skyblue Willow. We know

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they're good in these kinds of matches, you know, we

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don't really know what making bag or I meet Tony

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Storm at the Hollywood Ending, we know what she brings,

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but chatlander her and Willow in the street fight. But

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there's a lot of it. Like about half of them

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we've seen what they can do in this hardcore environment,

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and the other half this will be the first time

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see you know, this crazy environment. So I'm looking for

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just violence, craziness. I think they will come up with

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some really interesting spots. Someone's getting their huha stafled.

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Speaker 3: There's no other way to say. You know it's gonna

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be Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Think this is going to be really interesting and fun, bloody,

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and I have no idea who comes out as the winner.

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You know, who submits, who surrenders. This is one of

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those it's the first time, so I just I'm just

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looking for a fun, violent match.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, there you go. Violence is the key, Marcus. I'm

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going to go to you next. What are you looking

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for in this match? Is there anything in specific that

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you particularly want to see.

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Speaker 7: I'm interested to see how they lay this match out

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with women as opposed to how they've laid out the

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men's matches in the past, just because of you know,

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some of the the differences between how the men and women,

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But I do expect a bloody, violent match. It's to

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see who actually bleeds in this match, and that's gonna

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be interesting to see. Uh. And one thing that I'm

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also interested to see is get actually exit the caves.

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I've never seen the women actually go on top of

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the cage, so that's something that I was I'm interested

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to see if they actually do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about that earlier myself, Marcus, and

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I was like, God, I hope not. The women's submission

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is too good right now for risking injury on something

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stupid like that.

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, I agree.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: So okay, let's go to you and what are your

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thoughts here. Let me ask you specifically, who do you

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think begins both begins this match for both teams.

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Speaker 5: I don't. I think stat Lander should start.

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Speaker 6: I think you should start small with some of the

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other people like stat Lander, and I'm not sure who's

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all else.

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Speaker 5: On it.

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Speaker 6: But I really do want to see Megan may come

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and last and just destroy. I think she came up

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a long way, and uh, I think she deserves to

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dominate and I think, yeah, that she deserves the title.

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Eventually and uh, and this is gonna be a heck

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of a match.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna perform myself like they always do. They're always overperform.

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And I think it's gonna be the match of the

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year for these type of matches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, one thing that I will say is

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because I was thinking about it with Julia Hart. Julia

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Hart has bled in matches before, but it's always been

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her own blood caused by It's not by it like natural,

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like she bumped her head or she bit her lip

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or something like that. So I'd be interesting to see

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what kind of blood comes from Julia Hart, from her

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just conkering herself on the head, you know, because that's

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the way it works with her. I'm also interested to

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see if the if the mist comes into play in

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this match. Matt, what do you think about the women's

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blood and guts?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, sorry, sorry, no, no, I'm here. I was

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having trouble with with my little icon. With the women's

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blood and guts, I think it has the potential to

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be very very good if they play this right. I'm

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interested to see what kinds of things they come up

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with to beat the heck out of each other. I

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think that Julie Hart actually should probably be one of

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the first people out. I would like to see her

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and Mercedes Monette actually get into it. Mercedes tend to

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void same ting, but I still think something will happen there.

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I think that's the surprise because Mercedes has a lot

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of a lot of aggression towards a lot of the

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other women, whether they are together or not. She doesn't

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seem to like anybody, and I think that she's gonna

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do something like maybe she'll push Julia or push sky

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Blue out of the way and they actually will end

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up getting into it with her. Something tells me that

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Mercedes just does not play fair and she's just gonna

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kind of be out there for herself and it's going

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to anger everyone else. I'd like to see who I'm

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a huge fan of. Is Megan Bain really just absolutely

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destroy everyone like somebody else said, I would really like

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to see her there and really showing what she can do.

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Speaker 2: So all the way around, I'm kind of thinking that

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Megan Baine's gonna be a little protected in this match,

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and the reason why is because she is committed to

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the Tag League tournament. In Stardom. She went to stardom

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over the weekend. Now she's back, and now she's going

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back to stardom. So she's bouncing back and forth between

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A and W and a W and stardom this month.

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Speaker 5: So I think she'll be last.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so I think you'd be protected. Uh,

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somebody needs to mute. But anyway, Uh, I lost my

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train of thought. You know, that brought up a point

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where Mercedes Monet and Julia Hart, and it does kind

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of make a little sense because again I bring this up,

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brought this up before in one of the previous podcasts.

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When Mercedes Monete debuted in Boston, the first person to

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confront her was Julia Hart, I mean confront her physically,

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so so they have a little bit And again I

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really do believe remember Julia Hart lost the TBS championship

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the Willow Nightingale, who only kept the championship for thirty

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five days, but for losing it to Mercedes Monet. I

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really don't believe that at that point Willow nine Gale

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was ever supposed to be TBS champion. It was just

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an injury to Julia Hart that caused that whole change

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of title to come about. Yeah, you know, women's match,

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and I can say the same thing for the men's match.

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It's really not about who wins and who loses, it's

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what happens in the match. Uh, there's no winner and

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losers in this. The winners, of course, are gonna be

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the fans if they do it right. But yeah, I mean, look,

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blood and guts is blood and guts, and you never

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know what's gonna happen. Who wasn't that said about going

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outside the cage? The women going outside the cage? Was

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that much Disney or Chris? Okay? Yeah, I mean I

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mean if that happens, if they get up on top

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of the cage, what the heck? Man? I mean, Look,

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sky Blue is built for these kind of matches. Let's

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just face it. She is the hardcore queen of aw

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If something like that is going to happen with somebody

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going outside the ring and up on top of the cage,

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it's gonna be sky Blue that comes down the wrong way,

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let's put it that way. So I'm looking forward to

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to this match, I really am. I hope. I'm really

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rooting for all the women to do really well and

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make this match special because if it flops, boy, we'll

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never see it again. So, speaking of the women, Pro Wrestling,

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Illustrated came out with their twenty twenty five Top two

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fifty to PWI two fifty. Now keep in mind that

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the evaluation period was from October one to twenty twenty

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four through September thirtieth of twenty twenty five, so it's

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not only what happens in twenty twenty five. It does

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have like the last quarter twenty twenty four in this

473
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but ranked number one was Mercedes Monet, ranked number two

474
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:41,119
was Tony Storm, Number three was Saya Kamatani from Stardom,

475
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,880
number four was Tiffany Stratton from WWE, and number five

476
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:53,480
was Stephanie ba Kerr from WWE. There was a lot,

477
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:57,119
a lot of the only word I could use for

478
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,920
it is discourse about this man his rankings, And I

479
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,880
wanted to see what you guys thought of it. I mean,

480
00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:08,759
do you you feel like rsides Monet deserved number one?

481
00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:13,880
Do you are you happy with Stephanie Vicord and Tiboty

482
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,839
Stratton at four and five? What about Saya Saya Kamatani

483
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:22,240
at three and Tony Storm at two? Uh? Really? What

484
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,480
are your thoughts here? Guys?

485
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: I thought Tony should have been number one, and I

486
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:36,759
think that Athinos should have placed in there somewhere. I mean,

487
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,720
she's been the r o H champion forever, and but yeah,

488
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,119
I thought Tony should have come in at number one.

489
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:48,279
I think that they might have picked Monette because she's

490
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:52,880
running around with all those belts. Honestly, I don't know,

491
00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:57,599
but I thought Tony Storm really really deserved number one.

492
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, you know, I just think Tony Storm,

493
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,559
because of her character work, has been better than Monette.

494
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:09,720
But but Monette has been around the world doing things

495
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,720
and putting wrestling on her back, so I can see

496
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,279
why they did it. But I don't disagree too much

497
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:18,680
with the WRESTL I don't know much of WWE or

498
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,599
anybody else, but I think it's a good fit for

499
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:23,279
what they had.

500
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Speaker 7: I actually agree with Mercedes being number one. I think

501
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:35,240
her match output this year has just been kind of unprecedented.

502
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,079
Why but it's just rare, and the matches that she's

503
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,000
had outside of AW some of those matches have been

504
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:50,000
really really good. She's even had storylines through and CMLLL

505
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,000
things like that, so she's doing a lot. I can

506
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:57,119
see the argument for Tony Storm she's been like the

507
00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:01,319
number one woman for probably the last two years if

508
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:07,519
we're being honest. But and then with the Saya Come Attorney,

509
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:11,160
she's like that next person in stardom that's coming up,

510
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,880
Like she's the next person. She's been really ban pushed.

511
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:19,440
I thought EO Sky would be higher, but I can't

512
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,880
really argue with anyone else.

513
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the thing about EO Sky here is that, well,

514
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,039
there's two women that you know, a lot of the

515
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,599
community said that EO Sky should have been higher. Uh.

516
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,240
EO Sky had an eight match singles wrestling losing streak.

517
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,319
She lost eight in a row during the evaluation period.

518
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,880
That and then in and of itself in this KFA

519
00:33:56,039 --> 00:34:01,200
blist probably ruined her chances. Another woman who was not

520
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:05,359
even in the list anywhere in the top two fifty

521
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:08,920
is Becky Lynch. Why because she didn't meet the criteria,

522
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,960
because she was out for seven months, she wasn't able

523
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,920
to meet the criteria to you know, make the list.

524
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:19,960
I mean, there was no doubt that Becky Lynch is

525
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:24,360
definitely good enough to be in the top twenty, perhaps

526
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,199
even the top ten, maybe even the top five, but

527
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,400
she's just not on the litch list because she didn't

528
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,159
meet the criteria. So who else wants to give their

529
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:35,480
opinions about the women.

530
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Speaker 4: I'll say one thing I found interesting is you look

531
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,000
at the cover. You know, normally you have the number

532
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:47,159
one who's on the cover, but at this time you

533
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,039
had Tony and verse Adi. I feel like, yeah, they're

534
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:54,519
one in two, but it's almost one A one B.

535
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:58,079
Like did you have to acknowledge what Tony Storm did

536
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:01,800
her character work? I mean how long she held the title.

537
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:09,000
But Mercedes wrestling all around the world and bring attention

538
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,039
to these smaller companies, to these women that have gotten

539
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,920
the chance to wrestle her, even if they lose. I

540
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:20,360
just don't see how I can't have her at number one,

541
00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:25,920
like I mean Tony Storm here, I mean you can

542
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:32,039
say she carried the aw women's division, Mercedes Bonet built

543
00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:37,719
up women's wrestling all around the world. As far as

544
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,039
the rest of the top ten, I think it's pretty

545
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:40,519
spot on.

546
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,679
Speaker 8: I don't watch WWE, so so I can't say, you know, yes,

547
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,840
they absolutely should be there, but I know both like

548
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,800
Tiffany Stratton, Septie Kerr, they were champions, they you know,

549
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,119
had a lot of focus on them.

550
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,559
Speaker 3: So it's one of those.

551
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,599
Speaker 4: I think the top ten is pretty spot on, and

552
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:04,119
that top spot it feels like, like I said, one

553
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:06,280
a one fee more than one in two.

554
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean one of the big arguments with Mercedes

555
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,840
Monet is that Tony Storm beat Mercedes Monett. But to

556
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:20,880
your point is something you said about Mercedes Money going

557
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,360
around the world and wrestling. If you look at who

558
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:31,280
she wrestled globally and look at this PWI two point fifty,

559
00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:35,039
you'll see a lot of the names that she beat in,

560
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:41,679
you know, places like Austria and Italy and England and

561
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:49,079
Mexico on this list, which I'm sorry, but I think

562
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,960
what Mercedes Monett is doing is fantastic for women's wrestling.

563
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,960
I really do. She's putting in on the map globally,

564
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:05,039
not just within a single company. And the weird thing

565
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:05,840
about it is.

566
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Speaker 3: If you go on.

567
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: Online and look on Reddit, and not the aw fhanhub subreddit,

568
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:19,920
but the other subreddit's like Greatness of Wrestling. I mean,

569
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:23,199
these people still call Mercedes Monet Sasha Banks. They have

570
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:29,639
no clue what goes on in any other promotion. A

571
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,719
lot of them don't other than WWE. They are such

572
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:37,559
cult it's so weird to me. I don't understand it.

573
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:42,719
I mean, I can understand watching one promotion. If that's

574
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,599
what you like to do, more power to you. And

575
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:49,199
I'm not saying anything bad about doing that. What I

576
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,079
don't like is that you watch your one promotion, talk

577
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:57,119
about your one promotion. Don't pretend to know anything about

578
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:04,400
what's going on in aaw Ring of Honor, Stardom, tjp W, TNA, whatever,

579
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:08,920
because you just don't know. You know, it's really getting

580
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,639
It's just so annoying that people just they spew out

581
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,599
of their mouth all the stuff, and it doesn't make

582
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:18,320
any sense because it's obvious that they don't watch.

583
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:19,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

584
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I've said time and time again, there's a

585
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,559
difference between being a professional wrestling fan and a fan

586
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:33,599
of one particular professional wrestling company, you know exactly. I

587
00:38:33,679 --> 00:38:37,519
don't watch a time. I watch AW I watch New Japan.

588
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,320
I watched Stardom in CMLL when I can.

589
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:42,639
Speaker 3: Same with Roight.

590
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,599
Speaker 4: I don't watch WWE because I'm just not a fan

591
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,800
of what their product is, you know. I I keep

592
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,159
up with kind I try to keep up with kind

593
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:57,119
of like the main goings on there, so I can

594
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,199
at least I say, oh, yeah, that's happening, but I

595
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,480
don't really. But I don't go out of my way

596
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:07,119
to talk about WWE either, because I don't watch it regularly.

597
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,360
If you don't watch something regularly, how can you really

598
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:18,519
have a informed opinion on it. That's like saying, because

599
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:21,880
you watch the Super Bowl, you can talk about football

600
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:26,239
all day every day. No, but that's okay. You don't

601
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,719
have to know everything about every wrestling company. Just talk

602
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,320
about the wrestling you watch, talk about what you enjoy,

603
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,920
and don't hit on what other people enjoy. I mean,

604
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,280
it's not difficult.

605
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:40,159
Speaker 3: Well it's not.

606
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 2: Only Look, wrestling is in rocket science and you don't

607
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,440
even really have to watch the matches to know who

608
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:52,280
the champions are, who has belts. Who's what I mean. Look,

609
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:56,159
if you don't watch WWE, do you know that EO.

610
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,840
Sky is well respected as a fantastic women's wrestler w

611
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:00,440
w E?

612
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 4: Yes, because I well I do, because I've seen enough

613
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,360
and I know that it's one of those I think

614
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,199
if you hear their name and see people talking about them,

615
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:22,079
well you're gonna know. Okay, they're well respected, so that's cool.

616
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:26,239
But I'm just saying don't talk about what you don't

617
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:26,639
know about.

618
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the other thing is is like, look if

619
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:33,400
somebody mentions Zo Sky and how good EO Sky is

620
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:39,079
or whoever, that you really don't know. There's this thing

621
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:43,039
called Google, There's this thing called YouTube. There's all kinds

622
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:45,800
of resources out there where if you really want to

623
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,800
know who a wrestler is, you could educate yourself pretty

624
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,400
damn quick instead of talking bad about something that you

625
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:58,079
have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. And for

626
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,639
God's sake, the biggest thing that annoy me, there's two

627
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,400
things that annoy me about the internet wrestling community. If

628
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,559
they don't know something, they will literally say, who just

629
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:15,280
go look it up? Why are you wasting everybody's time posting?

630
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:15,559
Speaker 6: Who?

631
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,559
Speaker 3: You know?

632
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:16,639
Speaker 1: What?

633
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:19,519
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just the dumbest thing that anybody can do.

634
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:25,400
The second thing, I don't know if I should even

635
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,280
bring this up, but I'm not even gonna bring it. Well, look,

636
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,360
the internet wrestling community likes what they like and they

637
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,840
ignore what they don't like. I'll just put it that way.

638
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,960
But even though they ignore what they don't like, which

639
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,679
there's nothing wrong with it, it doesn't preclude them from

640
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:47,760
lappender gums or using the little stubby fingers to type

641
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,199
out generous insults about something that they have absolutely no

642
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:57,320
idea what they're looking. Edit exposes people as being ignorant.

643
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:01,360
And because when you talk about something that you don't

644
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,480
have a clue what you're talking about. I'm sorry, but

645
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:08,559
you expose yourself. Nobody's smart enough to talk about brain

646
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:14,119
surgery without knowing anything about brain surgery. It's it's just

647
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,480
it's just the facts. Now, let's go to you. What

648
00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:21,039
do you think about this list? Is there anything that

649
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,039
stood out to you?

650
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the list yet, so no, I

651
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:34,000
just know who was like in the top five kind

652
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:38,079
of from browsing online, but I haven't looked in depth

653
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,400
at the list. So see, I'm taking your advice, Tolson,

654
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,079
I'm not just pretending to know.

655
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, and here's a question that I

656
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:54,159
can ask you. So Saya Kaatani is number three on

657
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,360
this list by far, has probably arguably had the year

658
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,880
of years women's wrestling. She's had more matches this year

659
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,159
than both Tony Storm and to and Mercedes Monet combined,

660
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:13,639
like twenty more matches than both of them combined all right,

661
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,400
you think Tony Storm. I think Tony Storm has had

662
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,599
thirty four matches, Mercedes has had thirty one, and Saya

663
00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:23,639
Kamatani has had like eighty three or something like that.

664
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:30,400
But one of the things, again, we're talking Pro Wrestling Illustrated,

665
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,599
which is obviously a North American company with probably North

666
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:45,440
American people on the committee. Do you think that having

667
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:50,719
a wrestler like Saya Kamatani who doesn't speak a word

668
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,920
of English, hertz are not only in a list like this,

669
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:56,559
but overall globally.

670
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: I don't think it, because it brings more people to

671
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:08,719
look at her and get to know her that may

672
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:14,280
not and for people that are fans of hers, it's

673
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,199
good that they see her in, like you said, a

674
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,960
North American kind of publication, because it can bring more

675
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:30,079
fans into the fold. On both sides, I think it's good.

676
00:44:30,639 --> 00:44:32,519
I think it's good to have a lot of the women,

677
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:35,480
like you were saying, on the list that Mercedes Monette

678
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:39,239
wrestled from all over the world. It brings more fans

679
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,519
in and brings us all together in something we all

680
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,840
really are passionate about. So I'm glad that they had

681
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,880
her there and I'm glad that they have the other

682
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,480
ladies on the list too. It's I think it's a

683
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:53,840
good thing.

684
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Speaker 2: Is there anybody that hasn't gone yet on this.

685
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:01,199
Speaker 3: No?

686
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: All right, then let's go to our potpaur resection because

687
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,039
I think that the popa resection is going to be

688
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:15,920
quite uh interesting tonight. But I'm gonna throw it to

689
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,920
the uh to the podcast team here. Is there anything?

690
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:22,159
Does anybody have a potpourri that they want to bring up?

691
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: I want to talk about my wrestling theories with the

692
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,760
Young Bucks because I think something big is going to

693
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,880
happen with them, but I don't know what. I usually

694
00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:46,679
have a pretty good eye for what's going on kind

695
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,480
of behind the scenes, because I'm very much into the storytelling.

696
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,400
But I was watching the latest being the Elite episode,

697
00:45:56,639 --> 00:46:01,000
and I just have a feeling that Ocada is going

698
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:06,559
to do something to the Young Bucks. Like everybody has

699
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:11,320
their eyes on Okada and Takeshta and what story they

700
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,039
have going. But I just keep getting the feeling that

701
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:18,280
he's going to do something to the Young Bucks. There's

702
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,960
that whole thing about them being pressure to join the

703
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:27,239
don Callous family, to come on over and join the

704
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:33,559
Don Callous family, and Okada just has a look about

705
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:38,119
him when he's talking to them that he's going to

706
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,800
do something to them, either in terms of kind of

707
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,920
backstabbing them or if it looks like they are going

708
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:51,880
to join the don Callus family, Okada is actually the

709
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,719
one that is going to kind of betray them. Where

710
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,000
everybody thinks that it's Takeshta, there's there's a big story.

711
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:03,239
Are you bruin there? And I was wondering if anyone

712
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,639
else is kind of caught onto it and has any

713
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,320
ideas about what it might be.

714
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 4: I definitely noticed it, you know, last week when he's like,

715
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:15,519
don't take too long, and then again he was like

716
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,400
don't take too long. I feel like something's gonna happen

717
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:24,960
at full gear, Like the Young Bucks and Alexander will

718
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:30,880
win the match through some shenanigans and then they'll be

719
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:34,880
like beating Kenny Omega down and wanting the Young Bucks

720
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,599
to attack them. But they're gonna be They're gonna be

721
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:44,440
torn because even though they're it's strange, you know, Kenny

722
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,079
Omega is still their brother.

723
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,159
Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna be right.

724
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,199
Speaker 4: I know what I know we did stuff to him,

725
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,920
but there's a difference between me attacking my brother and

726
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:04,159
you attacking my brother. Like I can beat up my brother,

727
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:08,679
you can't. So I I think I think we could

728
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,280
see something happen at full gear there where they don't

729
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,719
join and Okada is hiss, like.

730
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: But can your brother beat up my brother?

731
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeh probably, but you know.

732
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 4: Like he's gonna I think he's gonna be pissed because

733
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,800
it's like, why would you pick Omega over me? I

734
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,480
beat him, I'm better than him. You know, I'm the guy.

735
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,400
Why don't you want me? Why am I not your brother?

736
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 3: Why is it him? Like I can definitely see one

737
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,840
of those kind of like because o'conda is pretty.

738
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: He's a pretty stowic guy, and most of the time,

739
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,440
you know, he'll do his little goofy stuff, but most

740
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,440
of the time, you know, he's pretty serious. So I

741
00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:01,760
think it'd be interesting if he is, like you really

742
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,239
see some real emotion from him because he sees the

743
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,280
young buckses, you know, he sees them as brothers. He

744
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,320
wants them as part of his family. But they're gonna

745
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,239
choose Omega once again, and at least, you know, that's

746
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,800
kind of my theory on the whole situation. So yeah,

747
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,840
it's definitely interesting. I definitely want to see how all

748
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,599
that plays out.

749
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,079
Speaker 2: All right, Well, does anybody else have a pope reason

750
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:32,840
they want to talk about, because I've got a couple.

751
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,119
I have one, go ahead.

752
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,079
Speaker 6: I mentioned Megan Bain a while back, and so it

753
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:43,719
tells a little bit about her journey throughout this last

754
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,280
few weeks, and I just want to get props to

755
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,920
her because she's held her own and she's in this

756
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,760
tag tournament and stardom, and she went over there and

757
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,840
also did some trading shots with Bozilla, who, by the way,

758
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,679
I would really like to come back to AW whenever

759
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,719
she can. But she doing it, and like I said,

760
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,519
she deserves the most credit for everything that's going on,

761
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:11,599
even with the negativity that's going on with AW surrounding

762
00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:16,079
to the two that left, which I'm sure we'll get

763
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,199
to later, but I just feel, you know, she did

764
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,280
the best she could in situation, and she's she's the

765
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:22,840
next star.

766
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 5: I really do believe.

767
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: So, yeah, did you happen to see the video highlights

768
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,039
of her confrontation with Mozilla?

769
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,639
Speaker 5: Yes, they traded shots quite well.

770
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:40,119
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was power bomb and dives and

771
00:50:40,159 --> 00:50:43,519
everything else. I mean those two women for their size,

772
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:49,079
they are very athletic and very uh, I guess nimble

773
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,320
is the best way to put it. They've got a

774
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,719
lot of power, but they've got the athleticism to go

775
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,000
with it.

776
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a clothesline and erman souplex change.

777
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 6: That was.

778
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,559
Speaker 2: That was great? Like, I love that.

779
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 4: I need to see some more of it, but I

780
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:08,760
only saw, like, you know, probably a forty second clip.

781
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,719
But man, a single match between them would be oh

782
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:17,639
so so much fun, just straight up hof battle, Like

783
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:18,760
I'd love to see that.

784
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:24,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody would. Does anybody else have a potporie?

785
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:32,159
Speaker 1: No?

786
00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:39,039
Speaker 2: Well, let's uh talk about something that I found very

787
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:45,159
disturbing and I want to talk about it because did

788
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:50,239
you guys happen to see the Thanksgiving commercial that aw did?

789
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 8: Yeah?

790
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:58,039
Speaker 4: I loved it, right, but no, I didn't see it.

791
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: You didn't see it. Well, it's their beware. It's got

792
00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:04,280
it's basically for the people that haven't seen it. It's

793
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,840
basically one of those things where everybody shows up at

794
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,360
Brian Danielson's house and to have Thanksgiving dinner, and there

795
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,960
was the triangle of madness. There were the young Bucks

796
00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:18,760
was Eddie Kingston. Uh, there was Tony Storm and Mina

797
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,400
Shirkawa and a few other people and they're all gathered

798
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:27,519
around the table and uh, Brian Danielson says, okay. He

799
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:30,280
gets up, stands up, and he yells out who brought

800
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,000
the turkey? And that disturbed me because Brian Daniels is

801
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:37,199
a vegan. What the hell is he doing wanting a turkey?

802
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 3: All right?

803
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: I saw I can't remember it a few I saw it. Like,

804
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:49,719
he's not a full long vegan. He's one of those

805
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,599
like ninety percent of the time he does vegan, but

806
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,960
he will, you know, if he like for Thanksgiving, he

807
00:52:58,039 --> 00:53:00,880
would eat turkey, you know, something like that.

808
00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:05,679
Speaker 3: So it, yeah, he's mostly.

809
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:11,079
Speaker 2: Okay. So it's kind of like it's like people that

810
00:53:11,199 --> 00:53:14,960
eat that said that don't really smoke pot, but do

811
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:15,800
when they're awake.

812
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe he's maybe he meant that, what is it

813
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:27,000
that that to Ferky that Yeah, maybe he meant that

814
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,880
in kind of a joking way or something. Maybe it's

815
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:32,840
just a big joke.

816
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: Well, well, Harley Cameron came through. She had the turkey

817
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:40,239
on her hand as a hand puppet. But that was

818
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,559
the turkey. It was It was a good commercial at

819
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:47,239
w He's been knocking it out of the park with

820
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,079
these commercials. Well, let's move on. I just being silly

821
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:53,960
because I thought that Brian Anderson was a vegan, full

822
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:57,599
on be vegan, not one of those dime store vegans,

823
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,360
you know. I thought he was one of those annoying vegans.

824
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 5: He's a vegan with commitment issues.

825
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, but uh, I don't really want

826
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:09,360
to get into a whole lot about this, but I

827
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,239
did want to hear your guys' thoughts about this. Nixon

828
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:19,239
Nowle and Miranda Alise leaving Collision because well, the initial

829
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,480
story was that they left because they were booked to

830
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:25,480
lose Dana Jay and Tyme Mellow. That was not the case.

831
00:54:26,119 --> 00:54:29,000
They left because it was only a three minute match.

832
00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:33,199
They were booked to wrestle. What do you guys think

833
00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:33,559
about this?

834
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: They're idiots.

835
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. You can't you can't be like, oh, I'm

836
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,360
having trouble getting booking, and then when you get when

837
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,400
you get a booking for one of the two biggest

838
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:53,119
companies and in the country on national television, you can't

839
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,960
leave because they're not giving you enough time. Like, I'm sorry,

840
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:02,760
figure out how to make those three minutes. Like, there's

841
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:07,800
a difference between knowing your worth and overvaluing yourself, and

842
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:14,320
they overvalued themselves. Now they they've screwed themselves over most likely,

843
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:18,039
I mean, why would AW want to use them again

844
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,440
when they're like, you're not giving us what we want,

845
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,559
We're gonna leave and screw you over.

846
00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: No, the two women who.

847
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 4: Took their spots made the most of their time, and

848
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:33,000
they are guaranteeing going to get more opportunities.

849
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,159
Speaker 2: You know, like maya world who took their time. I

850
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,679
believe in that p w I two fifty. She was

851
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,079
top one hundred. She's no joke, she's not a slouch.

852
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, both of those women are challenged and they didn't

853
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,960
all get three minutes.

854
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,639
Speaker 3: They're like, okay, we'll do it.

855
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:56,519
Speaker 4: Even having a vaccinator in the night, they're like, okay, yeah,

856
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:59,280
we're gonna take the opportunity that's being presented to us

857
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,320
and make the most. If you think you're too good

858
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,119
for that, you're never gonna make it in the business. Like,

859
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,000
because here's the deal. Thirty seconds and no offense could

860
00:56:11,199 --> 00:56:14,599
lead to two minutes and a little offense, which could

861
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:17,679
lead to five minutes and decent offense, which could lead

862
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,639
to a competitive ten minute match, Like you never the

863
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,760
worst thing you can do is say I'm too good

864
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,760
for that, and that's what they did, and they've they've

865
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,159
made complete asses of themselves by following up with you

866
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:40,000
know the deal on Twitch and Instagram and like, you

867
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:43,719
went from having an opportunity with one of the two

868
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:49,000
biggest companies in the country to torpedoing your entire career

869
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,519
all because you thought you deserved more time in your

870
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,559
second ever match being an unsigned talent.

871
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,159
Speaker 2: And it's not like the they were just given this

872
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,760
opportunity and then thank you for coming, You're going home.

873
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,239
They actually was reported that they actually filmed a vignette

874
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,800
for a backstage interview for Rigam Honor, so they were

875
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,840
definitely going to be put into a program in that

876
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,400
which they probably screwed themselves out of.

877
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, look, I see.

878
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,679
Speaker 6: This is what Darby Ala was talking about a while ago,

879
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,360
was we don't need people in w in AAW who

880
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,840
are there just because oh look I was on I

881
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:36,840
was on WWE programming for not that long, but that

882
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,440
means I'm better than you. We just don't AW doesn't

883
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,280
need it. It was a bad move. I like to

884
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,840
say I understand where they're coming from, but I don't, because.

885
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:51,119
Speaker 5: You take what you're given and I don't.

886
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,159
Speaker 6: And I just think they they thought they were better,

887
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,960
but talent wise, I really had never heard of them

888
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:03,239
before this. I know people have you know, mentioned, but

889
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,119
I just don't know them from anywhere. I know Kelson

890
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:09,239
said early you shouldn't say who, but I really don't

891
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,960
know what. I don't really care to look up who

892
00:58:11,719 --> 00:58:12,599
these two were so.

893
00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:17,039
Speaker 2: Right, well, you know, not to be disrespectful, but this

894
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,480
news broke a long time ago. If you don't know who,

895
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,119
that means you didn't really take the time or effort

896
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:25,239
to look them up. So it is what it is.

897
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,760
Just you know, Nixon Dowell used to be teaking knocks

898
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,760
in w w E. Before that, she was wrestling overseas.

899
00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:39,440
As matter of fact, she was a participant in the

900
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:46,000
first ever steel cage match. I believe it was a

901
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:48,880
three way, but it was a steel cage match, the

902
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,679
first ever steel cage match in England, and one of

903
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:58,960
her opponents was timeless Tony Storm in that match and

904
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:02,559
Storm won the match by the way. Go ahead, dad,

905
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:03,280
I'm sorry.

906
00:59:03,679 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's okay. I was just gonna say something

907
00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:11,119
about them. I don't I don't know a lot about them,

908
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:16,840
but one or both of them I know, supposedly has

909
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:24,480
some kind of interpersonal issues with Megan Bain. There's some

910
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:27,920
kind of dislike on one or both of their parts

911
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,440
back and forth with Megan Bain. So I don't know

912
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:36,039
if that played into anything. And also I think it

913
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:40,719
was the last podcast we were talking about with about

914
00:59:41,559 --> 00:59:47,280
toxic fans and how some wrestling fans really have bad behavior.

915
00:59:48,039 --> 00:59:53,800
I know that after supposedly after Collision aired and news

916
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,079
broke about them walking out, they were saying that they

917
00:59:58,199 --> 01:00:00,840
woke up the next day to death threat. It's online,

918
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:04,239
and that's just what we were talking about with with

919
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:10,199
fans and people that are really cruel to people that

920
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:14,679
are out there, you know, for our enjoyment and entertainment.

921
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,039
So no matter what happened, there's no place for that

922
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,360
kind of stuff and death threats.

923
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:28,039
Speaker 4: Death threats are completely ridiculous for something like that. Like look,

924
01:00:28,119 --> 01:00:30,559
I obviously agree with what they did at all. I

925
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:34,400
think they were dumb for it. I think their follow

926
01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:38,840
up to it was dumb, But sending someone death threats

927
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,719
over that is just you were the worst kind of

928
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,280
I don't even want to say person because I don't

929
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,239
want to associate those people with human beings. Like if

930
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,199
you were sending death threats to someone over professional wrestling,

931
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,400
you need to seek professional.

932
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,239
Speaker 3: Help, you do. You know what?

933
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,599
Speaker 4: He didn't have We done have shut the hell up yet,

934
01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:08,719
because I feel like people who said it's over professional

935
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:13,840
wrestling need to shut the hell up.

936
01:01:16,639 --> 01:01:18,679
Speaker 2: We had done to shut the hell up yet, but

937
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:19,239
now we have.

938
01:01:20,039 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: Now we've got it. Thank you.

939
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 3: Sorry to from you.

940
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: It was warranted.

941
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,199
Speaker 2: Well no, but I you know, but yeah, I mean, look,

942
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:42,639
you know, shut the hell up. So Marcus something to say.

943
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:44,679
Speaker 3: Touch on this subject a little bit.

944
01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 7: So I felt a little bamboozle after they did that

945
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,880
because I was someone that was actually excited to see them. Well,

946
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:59,280
I remember Nixon, she was actually gonna be in the

947
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,360
May Young Clanc and I think she blew out her

948
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,519
knee and she was coming back, and I think she

949
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:08,119
was actually gonna beat Real Ripley when Real Ripley had

950
01:02:08,199 --> 01:02:11,440
changed her whole game or whatever, and then she blew

951
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,480
out her knee again. And after that it was kind

952
01:02:14,519 --> 01:02:18,079
of like, you know, she was around, but she really

953
01:02:18,199 --> 01:02:20,559
wasn't doing she had a nice tag team with the

954
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:26,840
tai H As far as Miranda Ali's I remember her

955
01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:30,360
because she was in the Ring of Honor Women's titled

956
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:43,280
tournament and she lost to Rock San Perez. I always

957
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:50,679
want to say, maybe I'm saying, but yeah, So I

958
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,639
thought they would be, you know, a w's building up

959
01:02:53,679 --> 01:02:56,440
a tag division. You know, they come in, you know,

960
01:02:57,239 --> 01:02:59,440
show that they can, you know, work around, work with

961
01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:05,320
this company, work with the wrestlers. And then I'm watching Collision,

962
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,119
I see the match, and I get on Twitter, and

963
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,719
Miranda's tweet is the first thing I see. It's one

964
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,239
of the first things that I see. And apparently that

965
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:19,679
was the clue to everyone that something happened, Like nobody

966
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:24,519
else had reported anything until she tweeted that about they

967
01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:28,960
had so much to tell, like nobody said anything until

968
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:32,000
she said something, and that kind of snowballed into what

969
01:03:32,119 --> 01:03:34,880
we have now. And I just think they kind of

970
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:39,039
shot themselves in the foot. And the reason I know

971
01:03:39,159 --> 01:03:42,159
they shot themselves in the foot is every a top

972
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,360
wrestler that either tweeted about it or sub tweeted about it.

973
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:52,119
None of them were in the defense of Nixon or Miranda.

974
01:03:52,719 --> 01:03:56,559
And I saw the interview where Nixon was complaining about

975
01:03:56,639 --> 01:04:00,880
not getting bookings and not having not getting enough matches.

976
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I was like, yeah, look, you got

977
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,280
to start somewhere. You can't just expect to go in

978
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:19,199
a company and just take it over, because especially when

979
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:22,800
in your old company you were a mid carter. I mean,

980
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:29,199
you're not someone like EO. Sky or rear Ripley. If

981
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:32,000
they were to come over to AW, they would be

982
01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:34,519
superstars right out the bat, you know what I'm saying.

983
01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 7: I mean he was released twice.

984
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:42,679
Speaker 2: So look I did see. Yeah, well a lot of

985
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,719
that to do with I mean, she is injury prone,

986
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:49,440
so even hiring her is risky because of her injuries.

987
01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:56,119
But look, I saw people like Tyavalkyri respond. You know,

988
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:03,280
I saw people women that had wrestled on AW but

989
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,360
were never signed to AW, wrestled Ring of Honor, who

990
01:05:07,559 --> 01:05:11,719
never signed a Ring of Honor, talking about we would

991
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:16,719
love to have one of them. Nicky XS said that

992
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,960
she had a sixty second match on Ring of Honor,

993
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,280
but she looked good doing it, and she doubled her

994
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:26,960
followers or something like that during that time and became

995
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:29,719
more popular just because of the sixty second match. She did.

996
01:05:30,199 --> 01:05:32,800
But beyond that, look at some of the women that

997
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:37,199
are popular now in AW. I will throw names out

998
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,159
at you, and these women are all women that when

999
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:46,039
they first came or first presented in AW they were

1000
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:54,360
jobbing out like crazy, participating in multiple squash matches. They

1001
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,239
had some matches that went longer, but they were getting

1002
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:07,519
beat the hell. Willow Nightingale, Queen Amanada, Julia Hart, sky

1003
01:06:07,719 --> 01:06:10,679
Blue sky Blue is a really good example of this.

1004
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,800
This woman was just of course, she was on dark

1005
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,559
and dark elevation a lot. She was getting squashed constantly.

1006
01:06:18,679 --> 01:06:26,239
Somebody needs the mute. She was getting squashed constantly. Then

1007
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,239
when it came to twenty twenty three, sky Blue had

1008
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:34,880
more matches. Sky Blue had more matches in twenty twenty

1009
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:43,159
three than any other AEW wrestler men and women. Sky

1010
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,440
Blue was number one in twenty twenty three, and that

1011
01:06:46,679 --> 01:06:50,039
was because she started out small and she worked herself

1012
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:53,920
up to where she was wrestling consequently in the women's

1013
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,039
division in twenty twenty three. Sky Blue had more wins

1014
01:06:57,679 --> 01:07:02,800
than any other woman in twenty twenty three, and she

1015
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:07,159
had more losses than any other women in twenty twenty three.

1016
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,880
She was the top of the winds at top of

1017
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,559
the losses in twenty twenty three. But look at what

1018
01:07:12,679 --> 01:07:15,480
sky Blue is right now if it had not been

1019
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:21,039
for that injury that she suffered, and frankly even with

1020
01:07:21,159 --> 01:07:24,039
Julia Heart's injury as well. I mean it kind of

1021
01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:27,639
put the Sisters of Sin on the shelf for quite

1022
01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:32,119
a while. They're back now. Sky Blue is doing fantastic.

1023
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:36,079
Julia Hart's doing fantastic. Julia Hart got out to a

1024
01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:39,280
slow start, as did I think sky Blue, but they

1025
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,679
really came into their own over these last several weeks.

1026
01:07:42,119 --> 01:07:44,800
And what they did, they looked so good in CMLL.

1027
01:07:46,599 --> 01:07:48,960
I thought they looked fantastic in CMLL. They were in

1028
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,920
their element. And don't forget these were you know, up

1029
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,639
at elevation too, you know, in the Mexico City and

1030
01:07:54,679 --> 01:07:58,440
all that. You know, So that's that's something else. But

1031
01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:02,519
the point is is that you've got to work. You've

1032
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:04,719
got to earn your spot. You're not just giving it

1033
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:10,199
unless you're a main eventor from somewhere else. Nixon Nowell

1034
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,280
was never a main eventor in WWE, so she shouldn't

1035
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,319
be treated as such. You get three minutes, You take

1036
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:19,000
the three minutes that you go with it. It's not

1037
01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:24,479
like wins and losses are going to, you know, define you.

1038
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:30,479
But here's another question. Does anybody here, because it's crossed

1039
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,800
my mind, does anybody here think that this whole thing

1040
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:42,000
is a work? No, it kind of stinks like a

1041
01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:42,560
work to me.

1042
01:08:44,119 --> 01:08:49,319
Speaker 4: I just feel like it's too weird to be a

1043
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:56,279
work like. And also their responses aren't really they don't

1044
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:59,039
seem like it's a work. Just because of the Instagram

1045
01:08:59,239 --> 01:08:59,840
post and.

1046
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:03,119
Speaker 3: The twitch and all that. It's like, well.

1047
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: Though, buddy, that's what you do.

1048
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: But they seem like they don't seem like genuinely.

1049
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 8: Up set.

1050
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 3: They seem like they're just like whatever we left because

1051
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,439
we're better than that. Like it's just but is it

1052
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,279
that what you would do if you were doing the work?

1053
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:28,800
I don't know.

1054
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,239
Speaker 2: The other thing I'll bring up, Chris, listen, why is

1055
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,640
it that Maya World did that? And I apologize I

1056
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,680
can't remember your name, but the why is it that

1057
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,199
Maya World? And then the other woman we're there. It's

1058
01:09:39,239 --> 01:09:41,039
such a drop of the hat short notice.

1059
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 3: Because they were having a match on Ring of Honor afterwards.

1060
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,279
Speaker 2: Okay, well that makes sense.

1061
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like they were just there and not

1062
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,159
going to be doing anything like they stepped up, you know,

1063
01:09:55,319 --> 01:09:59,520
even though they had another match or a schedule. Like

1064
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,800
I think if it was the work you would have had,

1065
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:06,000
you know, people who don't get a lot of time

1066
01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:10,119
already that already worked there instead of you know, using

1067
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:14,920
people you already had something planned for. That's another big reason.

1068
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:21,079
And also if they haven't really responded to, like if

1069
01:10:21,119 --> 01:10:25,279
it was the work they would have, you know, replied

1070
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,560
to some of the other wrestlers in a w SA

1071
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,359
stuff where I haven't really seen.

1072
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:34,199
Speaker 3: Any of that from them their own stuff.

1073
01:10:34,319 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 4: They haven't you know, they haven't replied to you know,

1074
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,159
let tie of Valkyrie. I would have been an easy

1075
01:10:40,279 --> 01:10:42,319
deal if it was the work they reply there. And

1076
01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:52,159
there's too much you they should have done if it

1077
01:10:52,279 --> 01:10:53,920
was a work that they haven't done.

1078
01:10:55,199 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Andy, Also the opinion on this before

1079
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:02,640
we wrap up the show.

1080
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 4: I actually did have one pop I thought of as

1081
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,720
we were in discussing, Okay, go for it, an well,

1082
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,600
anyone else who wants to comment on the work.

1083
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: Thing, Marcus, did you have something to say?

1084
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,520
Speaker 7: I had that came to my mind as well, So

1085
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:20,479
I was gonna wait.

1086
01:11:20,399 --> 01:11:27,039
Speaker 2: To okay, So Chris Goo have with your potpourri them,

1087
01:11:27,079 --> 01:11:28,079
We'll let Marcus go with.

1088
01:11:28,119 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 4: His Okay, not completely awd, but Okada has talents Kanahatski

1089
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,880
for his retirement match, and the i w TP title

1090
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:47,319
match is set between Kenoski Taqushka and Yo Tasuiti. I

1091
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,640
you know, I'm one of those who like, yeah, the

1092
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:58,159
world title should probably be the main event, but I

1093
01:11:58,199 --> 01:11:59,880
think this is one of those times where you make

1094
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:05,359
an exception because not just because, I mean, it's Tanahashi's

1095
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:12,319
last match, and Tanahashi is a legendary rivalry that is

1096
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:17,560
responsible for or at least partially responsible for, you know,

1097
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,279
New Japan rising back up. It's I think it's just

1098
01:12:21,399 --> 01:12:26,119
going to be such an emotional match that nothing is

1099
01:12:26,199 --> 01:12:29,079
going to be able to follow it. Like to Chestin,

1100
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:31,960
since you are going to have a great match, they've

1101
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,520
had great matches before, you know, but they could have

1102
01:12:37,359 --> 01:12:41,520
the match of the century. But I just feel like

1103
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,720
the crowd is going to be emotionally drained after Tanahassee

1104
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:49,640
and Okada, and I just feel like it has to

1105
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:50,399
be the main event.

1106
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 3: Just want on that.

1107
01:12:55,039 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I mean all you have to

1108
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,680
do is go back to Revolution two years ago. Sting

1109
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:02,680
and Darby Allen against the Young Bucks was not the

1110
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,359
best match on the card, but it was the best

1111
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,760
match on the card. It should have been the mean event.

1112
01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:10,359
You understand what I'm saying there.

1113
01:13:12,119 --> 01:13:18,159
Speaker 4: I completely agree with you, Like, hey, there's sometimes a

1114
01:13:18,279 --> 01:13:21,359
mass is bigger than the title, and I mean it's

1115
01:13:21,359 --> 01:13:26,279
a ton of hashy like this is he's the ace

1116
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,000
the crowd. You know, he's the guy for New Japan.

1117
01:13:31,359 --> 01:13:35,319
I think I just don't. I don't see how you

1118
01:13:35,399 --> 01:13:36,399
don't make it the main.

1119
01:13:36,279 --> 01:13:39,520
Speaker 2: Of Nope, I agree with you.

1120
01:13:40,199 --> 01:13:40,399
Speaker 3: I do.

1121
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 2: I agree with you that. Well, then let's go to

1122
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,039
Marcus and uh bring us on.

1123
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 7: To speak on with the ton of high Kada. So

1124
01:13:52,359 --> 01:13:55,199
he kind of got that with It also opens the

1125
01:13:55,279 --> 01:13:58,039
door for to teste Ilkada World Zoom.

1126
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 3: Which is nice.

1127
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,520
Speaker 7: And then this is kind of an r ip moment

1128
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,239
to the Royal Rampage that we're going to hit this year.

1129
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well, okay, are you here? Guess he's not

1130
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,960
all right? So that is going to be ignition. We

1131
01:14:31,239 --> 01:14:36,520
normally do a all the Talk, which is our Dynamite

1132
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:41,840
review showed right after Dynamite, but because tomorrow night's Blooding

1133
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,359
Guts Dynamite is two and a half hours long. If

1134
01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:47,119
we're mostly on the East Coast, we're gonna take a

1135
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:49,319
break for the week. We'll be back in two weeks

1136
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:57,439
for for the show on Wednesday after Dynamite, and of

1137
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,159
course next Tuesday. Keep forgetting that we've got Full Gear

1138
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:05,439
coming up in less than two weeks now, right, so

1139
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,960
I believe next Tuesday is the go home Dynamite. We'll

1140
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,960
be doing our prediction show, and that's one thing that

1141
01:15:14,039 --> 01:15:15,840
I think we need to look forward to. Tomorrow Night

1142
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:23,159
is both Tomorrow Night and on Collision will be matches

1143
01:15:23,319 --> 01:15:28,560
and stories being built very quickly for Full Gear. Anyway,

1144
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,560
forty aw Fanhob podcast team, thanks for listening on x

1145
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:37,920
and on Twitch and on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify, iHeartRadio,

1146
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:43,239
Apple or Amazon Music and Audible. We will see you

1147
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:48,960
again next Tuesday at eight forty five pm Eastern Time

1148
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:54,119
for Ignition with the aw Fanhobb podcast team. Good night, everybody,