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Speaker 1: every day. Is like another Super Bowl, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is amazing watching all these picks come down. We'll
Speaker 1: get to those shortly. But something pretty important, as you know,
Speaker 1: happened in the US Senate today when they picked the
Speaker 1: successor to Mitch McConnell. You already know that was John Thune.
Speaker 1: But how great to start the show with my friend
Speaker 1: Dick Wadhams, who got John Thune elected to the US
Speaker 1: Senate and in about the toughest race you can imagine.
Speaker 1: Take it on the sitting US Senate majority leader at
Speaker 1: the time, Tom dashel So.
Speaker 2: Dick, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3: Hey, Dan, nice to be with you.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. Hey, tell us everything we need to
Speaker 1: know about John Thune.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what I think that One of
Speaker 3: the things about John's background I think gets lost in
Speaker 3: the supple is that two years before he ran against
Speaker 3: Dashell and beat Dashel. He ran against the other Senator
Speaker 3: in South Dakota, Senator Tim Johnson, who just recently passed away.
Speaker 3: But Johnson defeated Soon was at a House member, and
Speaker 3: Soon's career political career looked over with he had friends
Speaker 3: of the Senate. He got beat and it looked like
Speaker 3: he was done. But he had the courage stand to
Speaker 3: get up off the mat and to take on a
Speaker 3: much ostensibly a much tougher opponent in the most powerful
Speaker 3: Democrat in America in two thousand and four, and that
Speaker 3: was Tom Dashel. And actually Dashel had been majority leader
Speaker 3: by the time he ran for reelection in four Republicans
Speaker 3: had taken the Senate, so he's actually Senate minority leader.
Speaker 3: But I will say that this was before Obama. Obama
Speaker 3: was a Senate candidate in Illinois and four the most
Speaker 3: powerful Democrat in the Mama was Tom Dashel, and he
Speaker 3: tied the Senate and not obstructing the the the George W.
Speaker 4: Bush agenda.
Speaker 3: But john had the courage to get off the mat
Speaker 3: run against AshEL and then you want a big victory.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and uh And someday I really want to talk
Speaker 1: in depth about how you guys pulled that off. But
Speaker 1: tell folks uh more about thing, just who he is,
Speaker 1: what makes him tick, his worldview, and what you expect
Speaker 1: from him as a Senate majority leader. Knowing at this
Speaker 1: point that there are concerns among some very prominent supporters
Speaker 1: of President Trump that that Tune is not a never Trumper,
Speaker 1: but maybe not that supportive of of Trump or.
Speaker 2: Not that much of a fan, you know.
Speaker 3: And I really don't understand that, Dan, because and I'll
Speaker 3: tell you why, because on ponise the issues, there is
Speaker 3: virtually no difference between John Tune and Donald Trump on
Speaker 3: Thomasy issues. Yes, Soon was critical of Trump, as a
Speaker 3: lot of Republicans have been about this election conspiracy stuff
Speaker 3: and also the January Puts attack on the Capitol. But
Speaker 3: remember Soon was part of the leadership team when McConnell
Speaker 3: was the Senate majority leader. And remember what happened during
Speaker 3: those days. In the first Trump administration. McConnell, along with
Speaker 3: the help of John Soon, got more than two hundred
Speaker 3: juditional nominations through the Senate, including three Supreme Court nominations.
Speaker 3: And remember two it was Mitch McConnell who stopped the
Speaker 3: Senate from approving a successor to Justice Galia when he died.
Speaker 3: He kept that open for a year and a half
Speaker 3: and had the courage to do it. He got the
Speaker 3: Trump tax cut built through the Senate. He defended the
Speaker 3: president President Trump's agenda on deregulation on immigration. I frankly
Speaker 3: have always been perplexed what this negativity towards Mitch McConnell.
Speaker 3: He's not the most likable guy in the world. But
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, in terms of his performance as
Speaker 3: Majority leader and getting the Trump agendas or the Senate
Speaker 3: in those years, I don't see what the problem was.
Speaker 3: Sune was a big part of that.
Speaker 1: Frankly, Yeah, I think the people who saved American democracy
Speaker 1: recently did it in twenty sixteen. I think it was
Speaker 1: Trump his voters in Mitch McConnell, because keeping that seat
Speaker 1: open for Gorsich, we would have had Justice Merrick Garland.
Speaker 1: Instead we got Justice Neil Gorsich, and then down the stretch,
Speaker 1: equally impressive getting Justice Barrett confirmed in the last what
Speaker 1: forty days. I mean, that's saved American democracy. And listen,
Speaker 1: I get it that you know there are concerns about
Speaker 1: er were McConnell because he had said some negative things
Speaker 1: about Trump, etc. And I think that just goes to
Speaker 1: the level of loyalty and devotion to President Trump, which
Speaker 1: we saw play.
Speaker 2: Out on election Day with another win.
Speaker 1: But but personally, and I've said it for years on air,
Speaker 1: I think Soon will do a great job. I think
Speaker 1: you would have done a great job if you'd been
Speaker 1: put in place five years ago. And so I think
Speaker 1: I think Trump will end up very happy with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, they will work. There is no discernible difference
Speaker 3: between John Soon and Donald Trump on the fundamental issues
Speaker 3: that the administration wants to tackle and and the priorities
Speaker 3: that the Majority leader Soon will will want to tackle
Speaker 3: as well. So I think it's going to be a
Speaker 3: great relationship along with Speaker Johnson and the House who
Speaker 3: Trump endorsed this week. Yeah, and I think it's a
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a great team.
Speaker 1: What do you think the looking ahead, what do you
Speaker 1: think the number one legislative priority for Soon and Trump?
Speaker 1: Trump and Soon is going to be? What do you
Speaker 1: see them actually succeeding with Because they've got to have
Speaker 1: a top priority, right, you got to take this political capital,
Speaker 1: put it on the table, and then push the think
Speaker 1: bigs through quickly.
Speaker 3: I think clearly immigration has got to be the number
Speaker 3: one issue. Then I don't have any special insight into
Speaker 3: what they're going to do, so it just strikes me
Speaker 3: that was the number one issue of the campaign. It's
Speaker 3: the number one failure of the of the Biden Harris
Speaker 3: heres and I know that President Trump can do a
Speaker 3: lot of that by executive order, but there will need
Speaker 3: need to be some fundamental legislation passed as well, So
Speaker 3: I think that's number one. The other thing is reducing
Speaker 3: the size scoop and of the power of the federal government,
Speaker 3: which I think that we've already seen Trump move on that,
Speaker 3: and obviously there will have to be legislation moves through
Speaker 3: the Congress. So that's where that's where the majority leader
Speaker 3: soon that comes in. I'm the speaker, Johnson. So and
Speaker 3: that goes back to inflation. I mean Biden caused the
Speaker 3: inflation by those massive there's massive spending bills.
Speaker 2: Now, that's right. Dick Dick wandhams our guest again.
Speaker 1: He ran John Thune's winning campaign in South Dakota, knocking
Speaker 1: off Tom Dashel.
Speaker 2: What do you about think about these two guys?
Speaker 1: How are they going to get along. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: they're going to have some quality time together. I mean
Speaker 1: in person and more often remotely. Are they going to click?
Speaker 3: You're talking about Trump?
Speaker 2: No, talking about Soon and Trump? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think they will. In fact, then Soon
Speaker 3: spend time at mar Lago before the election with Trump,
Speaker 3: and I think they had a great meeting there kind
Speaker 3: of and that was of course before Soon got elected
Speaker 3: the majority leader. But then, no, I think they will.
Speaker 3: I think what they will find is that they are
Speaker 3: so similar in terms of the big issues and the
Speaker 3: big policies that they want to accomplish. That that that
Speaker 3: will that will have it mean a great relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, are you going to go back there and work
Speaker 1: with him now that he's king of the hill?
Speaker 2: Pig cheese?
Speaker 4: No, I love it.
Speaker 3: I loved I loved working for four campaign. And I
Speaker 3: loved helping the other senator from South Dakota, former Governor
Speaker 3: Mike Browns, who was up for re election this time
Speaker 3: for a third term, and I helped him in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3: And I love South Dakota. It's a great state. But
Speaker 3: you know I'm staying here, Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, Richard, he appreciate the time and we're going to
Speaker 2: have lots.
Speaker 3: To talk about, Yes we should.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's all right, Thank you, Thank you, Dick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great to talk to Dick. It was I know it
Speaker 1: seems a little distant right now, but I got to
Speaker 1: tell you that was one of the great political accomplishments
Speaker 1: of the century, was knocking off Tom Dashel up in
Speaker 1: South Dakota. And Dick were in that campaign. And John Thune,
Speaker 1: obviously very good candidate. I don't claim to know him personally,
Speaker 1: had dinner with him once. If I remember it was John.
Speaker 1: It was John Thune, Senator Thune, his wife, I think
Speaker 1: his daughter joined us.
Speaker 2: It was Amy and me, and it was.
Speaker 1: Back in the day when there was a lot of
Speaker 1: talk about me running for Senate. But I remember just
Speaker 1: really liking the guy. And you know, there were some
Speaker 1: you know, kind of superficial policy discussion during the dinner,
Speaker 1: but it was it was more personal stuff and just
Speaker 1: really liking him personally. And so between that and everything
Speaker 1: you see on the policy front, I would bet you
Speaker 1: I don't know either of these guys personally, but I
Speaker 1: would bet you that they end up getting along at
Speaker 1: least a lot better than Trump and McConnell got along,
Speaker 1: but his dick was saying, McConnell came through for Trump
Speaker 1: and for America on the policy front on some real
Speaker 1: big ones. So hey, but we got to talk about
Speaker 1: what everybody's talking about, right, So let's come back and
Speaker 1: talk about Matt Gates, the pick for AG.
Speaker 2: Now, a lot of other big picks today.
Speaker 1: Will talk about Marco Rubio Secretary of State, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about Tulsea, we'll talk about others, but we got to
Speaker 1: talk about Matt Gates for AG. It's the pick. It's
Speaker 1: the water cooler conversation. I've got my own unique take
Speaker 1: I have not heard anywhere else. I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear it and say, boy, that's true. You're on the
Speaker 1: Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Got to get your take on this, Matt Gates for
Speaker 1: Attorney General. I think I don't think anybody saw that
Speaker 1: coming outside of the Trump circle.
Speaker 2: I sure didn't. Would not have been my first pick.
Speaker 1: But I see exactly what President Trump is doing, I believe,
Speaker 1: and I get it completely.
Speaker 2: So I can't wait to dive into that with you.
Speaker 2: Eight five to five for zero five eight.
Speaker 1: Two five to five the number techs d an five
Speaker 1: seven seven three nine. Quick take on that before we
Speaker 1: go to callers and texters. I think President Trump is
Speaker 1: doing two things with the Gates pick. And yes, President
Speaker 1: Trump obviously knows that it won't be the easiest pick
Speaker 1: to get confirmed, but we can talk about confirmation separately.
Speaker 1: I think he's doing two things, both very very reasonable
Speaker 1: and understandable. One is that listen, President Trump knows, because
Speaker 1: he has had to endure it and the way no
Speaker 1: other American president has. President Trump knows that the left
Speaker 1: will stop at nothing, The left will stop at nothing
Speaker 1: to end him politically. The left will stop at nothing,
Speaker 1: no limits, in order to undermine his presidency. And so
Speaker 1: the next lie, the next big lie about him, that
Speaker 1: the next big Russia hoax is just around the corner.
Speaker 2: It's coming, and it will be one of many.
Speaker 1: And there is only one individual in all of government,
Speaker 1: one individual all of government, who can undermine a president,
Speaker 1: and that is the Attorney general. And I think, having
Speaker 1: been through what Trump has been through with the Russia
Speaker 1: hoax and more, I think Trump wants an attorney general
Speaker 1: who he has total confidence is politically aligned and will
Speaker 1: not will not undermine him because remember it's that one
Speaker 1: person and the only person individual in all of government,
Speaker 1: who can destroy a presidency on his or her own.
Speaker 2: So I think Trump needed that comfort.
Speaker 1: The other thing I think he's doing is is he
Speaker 1: has been again no other president in American history subjected
Speaker 1: to this. He has been subjected to the single greatest
Speaker 1: threat to the stability and continuation of our nation since
Speaker 1: the Cuban missile crisis. And that is the lawfare that
Speaker 1: was launched against him, the abuse of our legal system
Speaker 1: to try to jail a political opponent you cannot defeat
Speaker 1: at the polls. And they wanted him think about this,
Speaker 1: think about how personal it has to be for him,
Speaker 1: but his personal interests aligned with the national.
Speaker 2: Interest on this.
Speaker 1: They wanted him to die in jail. That was the plan.
Speaker 1: They were going to abuse the legal system and force.
Speaker 2: Him to die in jail.
Speaker 1: And so I think what Donald Trump is doing is
Speaker 1: on a personal level, which is also good for the nation.
Speaker 1: He wants everybody, everybody who misused the law to try
Speaker 1: to undermine this nation, undermine our political process, undermine democracy,
Speaker 1: and cause him to die in jail. That was their goal.
Speaker 1: He wants all of those people to not sleep. He
Speaker 1: wants all of those people to fear that if they
Speaker 1: committed a crime, and I under Lundy, if if they
Speaker 1: committed a crime in the course of abusing the legal
Speaker 1: system to put him in jail. He wants them to
Speaker 1: not sleep, and he wants to send a message, and
Speaker 1: it's a healthy message for this nation. I don't want
Speaker 1: any lawfair. I'm not saying he should engage in lawfair.
Speaker 1: That would be horrible, but I think he wants to
Speaker 1: send a message that if you're going to do that,
Speaker 1: if you're going to attack the very foundation of this
Speaker 1: nation through that kind of lawfare, then you better be
Speaker 1: aware that if you committed a crime in the process,
Speaker 1: we are going to find it and we are going
Speaker 1: to prosecute you. So I think he is trying to
Speaker 1: send that message. And again, I don't want to see lawfair.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see an abuse of the legal
Speaker 1: system the way the left did, and I don't think
Speaker 1: he's going to do that for a second. But if
Speaker 1: there were actual, real crimes committed in the process of
Speaker 1: that horror of lawfare that was launched by the left,
Speaker 1: I think he has every intention of prosecuting those eight
Speaker 1: five five for zero five A two five five takes
Speaker 1: da N five seven, seven, three or nine. And want
Speaker 1: to get your take on whether you think he'll be confirmed.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Mike in Denver, Colorado. You're on the
Speaker 1: Dan Capitlis Show.
Speaker 6: Welcome, Hey Dan. Yeah, I was just screened by her
Speaker 6: collar and she was a little frustrated with me.
Speaker 2: But Kelly gets frustrated with nobody.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I am a seven generation Colorado Hispanic American, and I'm
Speaker 6: just wondering what you think will be the strategy that
Speaker 6: the Trump administration will use to extract illegal immigrants and
Speaker 6: to deport them. Do you think they'll think they'll use
Speaker 6: law enforcement? Do you think like, how are they going to.
Speaker 4: Set up roadblock?
Speaker 6: Do you think that they're going to knock a knock
Speaker 6: door to door?
Speaker 2: Do you think they have a great question? My great,
Speaker 2: great question.
Speaker 1: And there was a a well sourced piece out today
Speaker 1: about how the administration is looking at at buying these
Speaker 1: facilities around the country outside of major cities in order
Speaker 1: to house in very humane conditions large numbers of folks
Speaker 1: here illegally. So I think there's a critical word we
Speaker 1: have to add to the conversation, and that is criminal illegals,
Speaker 1: because I think the administration is going to be targeting
Speaker 1: those who have come here legally and then committed other
Speaker 1: serious crimes. So that's that's what I see coming, and
Speaker 1: what I see them doing at that point is is,
Speaker 1: of course they're going to use federal marshals, and of
Speaker 1: course they're going to use law enforcement where law enforcement
Speaker 1: is cooperative. But one way or the other, they are
Speaker 1: going to as they should. They're going to lawfully track
Speaker 1: down those who have not only committed illegally but committed
Speaker 1: other serious crimes, and and they're going to apprehend them
Speaker 1: and they're going to put them their due process and
Speaker 1: deport them.
Speaker 6: Okay, but but if someone came across the border illegally,
Speaker 6: then they are a criminal.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, But they're not doing it.
Speaker 6: With a mother and her kid or something that they
Speaker 6: would be if they broke the law.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, right, But as as you heard me say, Mike,
Speaker 1: there's a distinction between somebody who is here illegally and
Speaker 1: somebody who is here illegally and then, in addition, committed
Speaker 1: one or more serious crimes. And that it's the second
Speaker 1: category that Trump is targeting and has made it clear
Speaker 1: that that's who he's targeting now, Mike, there's an additional category,
Speaker 1: as you probably know, of folks who have been adjudicated.
Speaker 1: They've been through the process and the courts have said no,
Speaker 1: you have to leave, and they didn't leave. And in
Speaker 1: the Trump administration, that's going to be their second layer priority.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 6: And then just my last quick kind of follow up
Speaker 6: question that your screener did not like.
Speaker 1: Approximately I'm fighting some something, but why the beef with Kelly?
Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm good, I'm good you didn't like
Speaker 6: my follow up question. My follow up question was how
Speaker 6: many of these illegal immigrants do you think are going
Speaker 6: to perish as a result of this effort?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I think what a great question, Mike, what a great question.
Speaker 1: I have to hit this break. You're welcome to hang on,
Speaker 1: my friend. I love your questions. I think this effort
Speaker 1: is going to save so many lives. It's going to
Speaker 1: save so many lives of people here I legally right now.
Speaker 1: It's going to save so many lives.
Speaker 2: Of people who might otherwise.
Speaker 1: Want to come here ilegally and be raped and murdered
Speaker 1: along the way. It's it's first and foremost. And I
Speaker 1: say that not because of race, or gender or anything else.
Speaker 1: But but this obligation of our government to American citizens,
Speaker 1: because all human life is created by God, has to
Speaker 1: be treated with dignity. But American citizens deserve the protection
Speaker 1: of their government as well. And it's going to save
Speaker 1: a ton of innocent American lives. So great call, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 8: I just think one point that we're missing here is
Speaker 8: that Trump is not a convicted felon. Technically, a judgment
Speaker 8: conviction is not entered until he sentenced. And I think
Speaker 8: one of the reasons that they asked for the delay
Speaker 8: in the first place is there hoping to get the
Speaker 8: case thrown out by Mershawn without ever having a judgment
Speaker 8: of conviction entered. The whole point of the motions dismiss well,
Speaker 8: the motion to vacate the convictions, was that he never
Speaker 8: become a convicted felon in the first place, and as
Speaker 8: long as this is frozen, technically he's not a convicted felon,
Speaker 8: even though you know rhetorically he's addressed that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Great to appoint by Andy mccarthur.
Speaker 1: You joined us that it was last week Orsona asked
Speaker 1: Andy if he was going to be the AG. I
Speaker 1: would love to see him in that job, and it
Speaker 1: was very interesting because Andy didn't laugh, he didn't demure.
Speaker 1: What Andy said was I can't comment on that, but
Speaker 1: what I can tell you is I don't have to
Speaker 1: be the guy who signs the pleadings. And so I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that's a hint that Andy is going to be
Speaker 1: in the Attorney General's office. Obviously, Matt Gates is the
Speaker 1: pick for Attorney General. George Brockler will join us at
Speaker 1: four fifty give us his thoughts on the Gates pick.
Speaker 1: I've already shared mine and I'll cycle back to it.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Highland's Ranch. Welcome one of our crowd favorites.
Speaker 1: That's Carle. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 9: Welcome, Hi, Dan.
Speaker 10: I just wanted to say in your last segment, you
Speaker 10: really touch on something that I feel so strongly about
Speaker 10: and that I don't want anyone prosecuted who didn't break
Speaker 10: the law. However, I do want people to be held
Speaker 10: accountable who put this man and his family and the
Speaker 10: country through all these bogus charges, these childs because I
Speaker 10: think a lot of people supported him after they saw
Speaker 10: what he went through.
Speaker 6: I really do.
Speaker 10: Oh yes, And I think these people need to be
Speaker 10: held accountable.
Speaker 1: Thank you for Yeah, Thank you, Carly appreciate that. I
Speaker 1: would add one layer to what Carl just said. Yes,
Speaker 1: nobody in this nation should ever be prosecuted, you know,
Speaker 1: for something they didn't do, and we saw that happen
Speaker 1: with Trump, And I would add nobody should be prosecuted
Speaker 1: for something where the motivation is purely political. In other words,
Speaker 1: where they may have done something, but the only reason
Speaker 1: they're being prosecuted is politics, where they wouldn't be prosecuting
Speaker 1: a Democrat for the same thing, but they're prosecuting the
Speaker 1: Republican because of politics.
Speaker 2: Because, as I said in the last segment, it's.
Speaker 1: The greatest threat to this nation since the Cuban missile crisis,
Speaker 1: the lawfair that the left just waged. And I think
Speaker 1: Trump's trying to send a message if you violated the
Speaker 1: law in trying to undermine this nation with lawfare and
Speaker 1: cause me to die in jail, then we are going
Speaker 1: to pursue you. I think that's one of the messages
Speaker 1: he's sending with the Gates pick lance and Evergreen.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 4: Welcome a right, Dan. Thanks? Hey, did you watch the RNC?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, what happened when Mitch McConnell was introduced at the
Speaker 4: r n C.
Speaker 2: Boy, I didn't see that part. I imagine it did
Speaker 2: not end.
Speaker 4: Well, you didn't see it when he was roundly booed
Speaker 4: in the RNC.
Speaker 2: Doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4: Why doesn't it surprise you.
Speaker 2: I think he's very We always talked so.
Speaker 4: Good about him and talk oh the great person he
Speaker 4: is for America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for pointing that out.
Speaker 4: All the Republicans boot him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Lance, thanks for pointing that out because it's
Speaker 1: one of the things I'm most proud of. I'm going
Speaker 1: to speak the truth, whether everybody likes it or everybody
Speaker 1: hates it. And the truth is, oh thought, I must
Speaker 1: be wrong.
Speaker 7: Well, it's so much porking into every bill that that
Speaker 7: Chuck Schumer whatever Chuck Schumer wants McConnell was putting it
Speaker 7: in there.
Speaker 4: Well, let me ask Americans they're sick of that.
Speaker 2: May ask you this favorite.
Speaker 4: We don't care how many judges he did, especially when
Speaker 4: you get fewer judges than then the Biden administration did,
Speaker 4: and we don't need a Trump hater like Dick Wadham
Speaker 4: come coming on and telling us how great a secret
Speaker 4: vote is for America.
Speaker 1: Lance, is this personal with Mitch or something? Because when oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess he doesn't want a dialogue. But the point
Speaker 1: is I was going to ask Lance whether he's ever
Speaker 1: made any mistakes, whether he's perfect, And maybe he is
Speaker 1: perfect and just had an off day to day. But
Speaker 1: my point is this that not not all mistakes are
Speaker 1: created equal, and there can be some very good things
Speaker 1: that a person does that far outweigh any mistakes. And
Speaker 1: when Lance just minimizes, oh, I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: about the judges, he doesn't want to hear about the
Speaker 1: judges because they prove him wrong. What Mitch McConnell did,
Speaker 1: and saving the Gorsage seat from going to Merrick Garland
Speaker 1: from going to an Obama appoint what he did in
Speaker 1: getting Amy Coney Barrett appointed to the court, you know,
Speaker 1: just within thirty days they had about thirty days left.
Speaker 1: Those were historically massive difference called accomplishments that save democracy
Speaker 1: for America. So yeah, I think Mitch McConnell deserves a
Speaker 1: lot of credit for that, and I think it out
Speaker 1: weighs some other things he did that I don't agree with.
Speaker 2: Justin and Littleton. You're on the dan Kaplas, she'll welcome.
Speaker 11: Hey, there damn few things. Maybe we get to the
Speaker 11: miss McConnel thing in a minute. But the reason he
Speaker 11: picked the top three the way he did, which was
Speaker 11: obviously states ag and.
Speaker 2: Defense.
Speaker 11: They're the exact opposite of all the ones before. So
Speaker 11: you look at Tillerson, I accepted the exact opposite.
Speaker 4: You look at ob.
Speaker 11: Sessions, and Keith is the exact opposite. And you know
Speaker 11: the other one. Who's the other one again?
Speaker 2: Oh? Which job? We got a whole bunch of jobs, are.
Speaker 11: Not Kelly Madis. So you look at mad he saith Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 11: I think they're up to like eighteen appointments.
Speaker 1: The other thing justin thank you, that I think s
Speaker 1: worth noting, and it goes to what I believe is
Speaker 1: another important amicure. Virtually everybody there might be an exception
Speaker 1: in here somewhere. I know Susie Wiles isn't in her
Speaker 1: twenties or anything. Excuse me, I'm not getting emotional. I'm
Speaker 1: just fighting some bug the size of a German shepherd
Speaker 1: I think across the board people are very young. They're
Speaker 1: relatively young or very young. And I think that's intentional.
Speaker 1: Thank you Justin for your call. I think it's intentional
Speaker 1: for a couple of different reasons. I think he wants
Speaker 1: that energy. I think he wants that intensity. I think
Speaker 1: he wants those fresh ideas. I think he wants that
Speaker 1: confidence from Americans, you know, who can look at a
Speaker 1: cabinet and say wow, yeah, finally we don't.
Speaker 2: Have seventy and eighty year olds.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is, I think even though he's
Speaker 1: in his obviously second term, staggered second term, I think
Speaker 1: he's building a cabinet for the next eight to twelve years.
Speaker 1: Not that everybody's going to hang around, but I think
Speaker 1: he's building a cabinet to outlast his presidency and to
Speaker 1: extend into the next presidency. Whether that's j D, whether
Speaker 1: that's Don Junior, I think that's what he's doing with
Speaker 1: this cabinet. Eight five to five for zero five A
Speaker 1: two five to five, Dan says a Texter, Where do
Speaker 1: you see RFK Junior having a place in Trump's cabinet?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 2: I really thought he would.
Speaker 1: Be a g I'd expect CDC maybe Health and Human
Speaker 1: Services somewhere in there. Yeah, yeah, somewhere. But you know this, right,
Speaker 1: He's going to be prominent. He is going to have
Speaker 1: a very prominent post. It's not going to be under
Speaker 1: as he should be out.
Speaker 12: Yes, do you think Trump wins the election, especially the
Speaker 12: popular vote without RFK Junior's endorsement, Probably.
Speaker 2: Not the popular vote.
Speaker 1: I think he wins the election, but I think that
Speaker 1: was a really big deal obviously when RFK Junior endorsed
Speaker 1: him Kim right after the dumb convention. And I think
Speaker 1: Trump's going to deliver and he should have a prominent post,
Speaker 1: and he will. I think, as everybody knows, Tulsea Gabbert
Speaker 1: in the cabinet right now, and I'm just double checking
Speaker 1: my list here, so Marco Rubia, Today's Secretary of State,
Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence, Tulci Gabbard. Great to see her
Speaker 1: in a prominent position in the cabinet. We can go
Speaker 1: through the whole list when we have two or three days,
Speaker 1: because are the question before break a lot of appointments.
Speaker 12: Will Matt Gates make it through the Senate confirmation process
Speaker 12: as Attorney General?
Speaker 2: What a great question.
Speaker 1: Let me tease that into the next segment if I may,
Speaker 1: because if you just joined us, thank you, and I
Speaker 1: want to give you my quick take. I mentioned it earlier,
Speaker 1: but I'm not hearing it anywhere else and I think
Speaker 1: it's dead on. But my quick take on why the
Speaker 1: Matt Gates appointment will get into whether he's likely to
Speaker 1: be confirmed. But also if you get a chance when
Speaker 1: you get home tonight, maybe one of the greatest tweets
Speaker 1: I've ever sent, And thank you Ryan for sending that picture.
Speaker 1: It's at Dan Kaplis on Twitter. This tremendous picture of
Speaker 1: Trump with Joe and Joe Biden today and my caption
Speaker 1: is Trump celebrating with two of his voters, because one
Speaker 1: thing we can be sure of they both voted for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I don't think that they were subtle about that.
Speaker 1: And I want to play some sound of Trump at
Speaker 1: the White House today.
Speaker 2: I just thought that was.
Speaker 1: A really cool moment that they both handled really well.
Speaker 1: Biden handled great, Trump handled great, great for the country.
Speaker 1: I want to play that sound for you. You're on the
Speaker 1: Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Check out at Dan Taplas on Twitter. You see three
Speaker 1: very friendly people. President Trump posing for a picture today
Speaker 1: at the White House with two of his voters, Joe
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden. It's really a very striking picture. Check
Speaker 1: it out please at Dan Caplis on Twitter. Hey, let's
Speaker 1: go to the VIP line. Welcome George Brockler back to
Speaker 1: the show. First time, George, you've been on with us
Speaker 1: since you were elected DA again of course obviously in
Speaker 1: a repo the first time, great tenure and now in
Speaker 1: Douglas County since the two split off. So a lot
Speaker 1: of drama there on election night. Was it one of
Speaker 1: those Saddam hundred zero deals.
Speaker 9: I gotta wish no, But it's one of those things
Speaker 9: where when you're the candidate and you'll experience this, Dan,
Speaker 9: when you run for governor. I'm just saying, when you
Speaker 9: or or whatever you'll experience this. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 9: your gut tells you, it doesn't matter what everybody around
Speaker 9: you tells you. There's just something in your head as
Speaker 9: a candidate that until you see the numbers, you're like,
Speaker 9: anything could happen, Anything could happen, like thuone, you know
Speaker 9: what I mean. Like that was a great interview with
Speaker 9: Dick Wadhams where I'm sure Thune when he got into
Speaker 9: that race, and up until the very end, people were like,
Speaker 9: you're not going to beat this guy. That's Tom dashall Man.
Speaker 9: He's the most powerful Democrat in the country. And then
Speaker 9: he did, right, Like Tom Dashel is the guy that
Speaker 9: thought I got this, I got it, and then all
Speaker 9: of a sudden he didn't. I don't want to be
Speaker 9: that guy. I want to be Tom Bashman.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, no, no, that's right, And that's human nature, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I imagine on election night they had to know,
Speaker 1: they had to have the internals right, But until you know,
Speaker 1: President Trump and the team saw those numbers start going up,
Speaker 1: you're never really sure. And it's just just part of
Speaker 1: the human process. But hey, thanks for joining us. I
Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on Matt Gates. I think
Speaker 1: a pick that none of us saw coming. So what
Speaker 1: do you make of it as a prosecutor yourself?
Speaker 9: Well, I was surprised, and I say that there'll be
Speaker 9: a caveat at the end here. I was surprised because
Speaker 9: this is a guy who has spent a cup of
Speaker 9: coffee practice in law at a civil firm before he
Speaker 9: went into the state legislature. In Florida and then Congress,
Speaker 9: this is a guy who if you hired him Dan
Speaker 9: other than as a rain maker, you'd have to make
Speaker 9: him like your entry level associate because he's never done it.
Speaker 9: He's never done anything. But then I listened to you
Speaker 9: talk about him in the context of, Look, if you
Speaker 9: want to make sure that your flank is protected, right,
Speaker 9: you've got to put someone out there who's going to
Speaker 9: be loyal to your flank and cover your six and
Speaker 9: all that. That makes sense to me. But I want
Speaker 9: to add just an extra plus to what your theory is,
Speaker 9: and that is, if you look at these positions, it
Speaker 9: may be that he's not just looking for loyalists. He's
Speaker 9: looking for people who can articulate the position of the
Speaker 9: administration with courage, guts and do a good job at it.
Speaker 9: And then my guess is everybody downstream from them that
Speaker 9: we probably don't have great visibility on will all be
Speaker 9: doing the other heavyesting and executing on that mission. So
Speaker 9: if that's the role that Gates is going to play
Speaker 9: much more of a spokesman and kind of the I
Speaker 9: will be the stop on this. If someone tries to
Speaker 9: go crazy and say, hey, let's go after the president.
Speaker 9: I can be the stop on that.
Speaker 4: Then it makes sense.
Speaker 9: You know, headset makes sense too, right, Like, here's a
Speaker 9: guy who has great combat experience, two bronze stars. You
Speaker 9: just can't argue with that kind of stuff. But managing
Speaker 9: the entire department defense the Pentagon, I don't know if
Speaker 9: that's in his wheelhouse, but you know that Dad is
Speaker 9: going to be great. Yeah, that's right. You know, the
Speaker 9: dude's going to be great at putting the Trump position
Speaker 9: out there and articulating it in a persuasive way. And
Speaker 9: these guys are all going to be able to learn
Speaker 9: on the job. So in that context, I think it's great.
Speaker 9: The only concern about having to do to the top that,
Speaker 9: as you pointed out signs, the charges and stuff that
Speaker 9: he doesn't have a Sullivan with him, is what is
Speaker 9: that skill set he's relying upon to decide whether they
Speaker 9: move forward on a case? You know what I mean,
Speaker 9: Like you have it. You've been doing this forever. You've
Speaker 9: got the guts and the experience. You can look at
Speaker 9: something and go, I know, it seems like a tough case.
Speaker 9: I can get this thing in the end. How does
Speaker 9: he do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it goes back to what you said a
Speaker 1: second ago, George Brockler, our guest, which is, and I
Speaker 1: think it's a great point. I'm looking down the list
Speaker 1: of picks right now, and I know most of these people,
Speaker 1: a couple I don't, but they're all great communicators, and
Speaker 1: there's every reason to believe they're all on the same
Speaker 1: page with with Donald Trump ideologically, and where they're not,
Speaker 1: they'll defer to their boss.
Speaker 2: And so I do.
Speaker 1: Think there's tremendous value in that. And it also ties
Speaker 1: into my belief George, that this cabinet, and a very
Speaker 1: young cabinet overall, is to be an eight to twelve
Speaker 1: year cabinet.
Speaker 2: It's intended to extend, not.
Speaker 1: Each and every one that's not real life, but extend
Speaker 1: into the next presidency, whether it's JD. Vance or a
Speaker 1: Don Junior or whatever. But I think try President Trump,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people who reach that age, but
Speaker 1: also so much he's devoted to his movement, you know,
Speaker 1: just wants it to outlive him and extend beyond him.
Speaker 1: So I think that ties into it. But then you
Speaker 1: get to the rubber meet the road like it meets
Speaker 1: the road, like you said, and yeah, I wonder whether
Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy is going to be that guy for Gates
Speaker 1: because I mentioned when he was on the show last
Speaker 1: week and I asked him if he was going to
Speaker 1: be a g He didn't laugh or anything like that.
Speaker 1: He said, I can't discuss it, and just said I
Speaker 1: don't have to be the guy, you know, signing the papers.
Speaker 1: So I wonder if Gates is if Andy McCarthy is
Speaker 1: going to be that number two for.
Speaker 2: Gates or somewhere high in that chain.
Speaker 1: But all these people will have other people who can
Speaker 1: do the day to day management stuff.
Speaker 9: I think that's true. I think it's it's only on
Speaker 9: the biggest, highest profile cases, or you want someone because
Speaker 9: Gates is going to feel this. He's going to be
Speaker 9: in the captain's chair and he's going to look around
Speaker 9: the room for you know, on a split decision where
Speaker 9: guys like McCarthy and others will come to him and
Speaker 9: say this is what I think, and they'll be and
Speaker 9: he's not going to have anyone else if he can
Speaker 9: turned to it'll just be him in the mirror and
Speaker 9: have to make the decision, and I'm sure he can
Speaker 9: do it. I think also this may be a longer
Speaker 9: term play, not just for the cabinet. But remember Gates
Speaker 9: has given some indication he'd love to replace DeSantis and
Speaker 9: as the high profile congressman from Florida. I don't know
Speaker 9: if that's a slam dunker, if that words up people.
Speaker 9: But if Donald Trump's attorney general for a period of time,
Speaker 9: you know, a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Even I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know what that does for this guy. I
Speaker 9: think there's a real opportunity here. But if you're the Dems,
Speaker 9: you look at these things and you're starting to get
Speaker 9: out the knives for the confirmation here? Do you know
Speaker 9: these guys are going to be confirmed?
Speaker 6: But you don't care?
Speaker 2: Well, I think the only one who may be at
Speaker 2: all endowed is.
Speaker 1: Gates, right, And we just have to wait to see
Speaker 1: what we start hearing from from some of the softer Republicans.
Speaker 1: But George, congrats on you're a big win. Douglas County
Speaker 1: is obviously in a great hands, and hopefully you'll be
Speaker 1: on a bunch now. I thank you, my friend, as
Speaker 1: much as you'll let me. Yep, well that'll be almost
Speaker 1: every day, and hey, yeah, we'll come back. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about Gates, these other big appointments Tolca Gabbard
Speaker 1: in My Theory and why he picked Gates. You're on
Speaker 1: the Dan Kapla Show.