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You can follow me on ex Ecuadal Benjamin follow us

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at ESPN the Fan. First thing I want to do

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is take a victory at Victory Lap. My my co

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host today while I will welcome in here momentarily made

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me abreast of some breaking news in the National Football League,

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So I'm taking my annual. I know more ball than

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Utah fans on AX and Twitter, Victory Lap. They may

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be the dumbest fan base in regards to just football.

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They may be the dumbest fan base in regards to rules.

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Personnel evows, talent evows in the world of college football,

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they're very bad. Now, granted, maybe I'm a little bit myopic.

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I have a very you know, uh, you know, maybe

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a funneled view of of Utah fans because I see

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them so often. There could be dumber fan bases out there.

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But for me, they don't know ball. And once again

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I am proven right like I always am with my

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NFL evaluations. Keaton Slovis his QB two in Arizona, I

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declared and August August nineteen, twenty twenty three, I was

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down at BYU fall camp watching Keten Slovis go through

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his drops, go through rep after rep, slinging it high

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velocity footballs, checking out his stature He's a man large

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in stature, and watching him run too him Like dude,

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he's a better athlete than has been advertised. He can scoot,

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he can move, he can run. Now, did he produces

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we wanted him to at BA?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Was there a little bit of a figuring out mode

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with a Rod and Keaton and how they were gonna,

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you know, Mesh and meld. Of course there was okay,

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But I said, I look like ket slove is a

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great quarterback. I stated on Twitter. I don't want to

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overhype him because I don't want anyone on Twitter message

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boards to blame me when he throws his first pick

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and and then tell me that I lied to them.

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But he's an NFL talent. There was no question in

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my mind after watching him for about twenty minutes. It's

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all it takes. Okay, it's all it takes. I'm like,

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that dude is an NFL talent. Now will he be

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productive enough, will he be able to, you know, showcase

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his talents in such a way that that merits a

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draft pick. I don't know, But that's an NFL town.

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Same thing that I said about San Anderson. He's an

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NFL talent. There was no question in my mind he

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was an NFL town. He's still playing ball in the

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National Football Ue and granted, let me tell you this.

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I had a ton of former football players BYU football

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players say Ben, you're an idiot. I'm like, guys, I

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know more ball. I have watched more film than all

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of my teammates. When look, guys, it was me, John Beck,

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Cameron Jensen, and Quinn Goots. Those were the only guys

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watching film. Jan Jorgenson, I think would watch some film

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every once in a while too. Those are the only

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guys watching film. Everybody else was out doing their thing. No,

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just saying I have watched more football than all of

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them film all twenty two delving into it. Okay, that's it. Okay,

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they're big, they're strong, they're faster. Their NFL talent. There's

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a lot of things that go into it. It's their movements,

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it's their biomechanics, it's it's football IQ. There's there's interviews

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that are involved, Like, there's a lot that's involved, even

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outside of production and stats and efficiencies that that that

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are involved in why NFL organizations draft and acquire undrafted

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free agents, uh for their respective organizations. So just taking

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my victory lap. So just just let me have my

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have my time here today as I dunk on Utah, Man,

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I I got to because otherwise I forget. I'm gonna

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move on because spend a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of time Joe, everybody in the company backstage, I'm starting

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to fat job everybody.

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Speaker 4: I ridiculed everyone on the rust.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say from the bottom of behind,

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Speaker 3: Chance to apologize absolutely nobody.

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Speaker 5: Oh man.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing, Like, if I don't bring it up,

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they all they remember. This is how they're like. They

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don't remember exactly what was tweeted Ze died. They just

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remember how the tweet made them feel. And Utah fans

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are very much in their emotions, their feels. They're very

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they're emotional. They're not logical, right, and we're emotional and illogical.

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you this is what happened. You were wrong, erroneous. Let's

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ESPN the fans starting lineup, so I can introduce you

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to my co host and the rest of the star

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stud of cast joining us for this Land State November

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fifth edition of Cougar Sports. Uh one of my favorite

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bring co hosts and hosts and insiders and riders here

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at Cooger Cuncher. That's welcome in Brantasy gurdy. G Man.

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Speaker 5: Let me add this insight that I think you overlooked.

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But this kind of boos up your criticism of Utahs.

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You tough man's look.

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Speaker 6: For anything that differentiates themselves from b Why what is

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differentiated in Utah for BWAYU is Utah hoots.

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Speaker 5: Guys in the league be what you doesn't. And that

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was largely true for a number of years.

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Speaker 6: So when you take a French prospect and say this

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is an NFL talent, you tough mass reflects.

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Speaker 5: Like me, Yu doesn't produce NFL talent. Guys don't go

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to b Way to go to the lake.

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Speaker 6: Sure they have luck every wow, but we're the we're

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the school that produces NFL talent. That's where it derives

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from because they're looking for any advantage of that.

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Speaker 5: That was a hallmark of Utah's advantage over BWA. You

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for a number of years. Yeah it's cone now. Yeah

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it's gone now.

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Speaker 6: And you're saying that ps all come asma Zoobie quarternalls,

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stop it.

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Speaker 5: And that's and that also.

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Speaker 6: Irks him because you tell usn't put quarterbacks into the NFL,

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none of them except.

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Speaker 5: Utley Humley, that's it.

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Speaker 1: And and the reason like, look, the first time I

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saw Huntley, he was wrapped up. He's about seven yards deep,

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seven to eight yards deep in the pocket, wrapped up

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without any sort of like leverage to be able to throw.

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And he threw fifty yards like while his legs are

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wrapped up, like literally tied up, and he just cocks

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back with those big old banana spider fingers of his

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just enveloping that pigskin and ripped off a fifty yard

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like fade. I was like, Bro, that's an NFL arm.

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He's an He's an NFL talent. I can tell you

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that by the way the form and fashion he runs.

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And he's a smart kid. You've heard his interviews, A

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smart kid. He was a leader, Huntley for heisman, right,

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Huntley for Heisman right.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, dude, yeah, he's he's got NFL ability,

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no doubt.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna have this story.

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Speaker 6: You may you may not remember this, but this is

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going to add to your grandeur. So I'm very hesitant

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to share this, but this is this is how Crittle

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gets with his evaluation. I remember I was sitting with

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you when when the news came across the b WA

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you got a commitment from Bear Bontner. No one really

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knew anything about Bear at that moment, what do we do?

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We go on the internet. Well, and we're watching film.

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Oh yeah, yeah, armstring and all that. I remember you're

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looking looking then your eyes just got really really big.

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Speaker 5: You said, Dury, come here, right now, come look at this,

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and you showed me. You know what you showed me.

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember what.

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Speaker 5: You found a picture of Bear's lower body.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you.

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Speaker 6: Said you you got that excited, bro, That's exactly what

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a rod needs.

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Speaker 5: This. This is going to be big.

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Speaker 6: Look at that, Look at that gernie and you're just

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scouring for for for pictures of his caboos, right. I

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was just looking at his butt, by the way, and

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you got really really excited. Hamstrings, calves, looking at bone structure.

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and you were getting so excited. And I hate to

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say it, but what have we seen Bear out? I mean,

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he's tremendous. He can take so much impact. Yes, he's

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basically LJ. Martin, but can throw a football.

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Speaker 1: That's what he is.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know, I just wanted to add that because.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, Kril does his due diligence I'll just

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say that he looks at girth, he looks at bone, stretch,

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and he looks at everything when evaluating these guys.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, I just thought you need.

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Speaker 1: To I mean, I noticed that that Bear Blackber's got

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a double jointed like thumb, you know what I mean.

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I'm looking at that. So I'm like, how in the

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age does he throw a freaking football, you know, so

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accurately when he's got this thumb that kind of drops

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down and almost dislocates.

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Speaker 5: It's unique.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at everything, Okay, And look, the jury is

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still out for me, by the way, on whether or

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not Bear Bachmeyer becomes an NFL quarterback. But there is

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no doubt in my mind that he is a great

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to an elite college football player. And the reason being

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is like, there's a reason why people have dubbed him,

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and I think this is a rod's of values that

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he hasn't gone on record on it. And then Steve

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Klements came on, is like, he's the right handed, better

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throwing tebow. There's a reason why he's dubbed that. Tibo

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football players ever, but there were always question marks even

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though he was a first round NFL pick. There were

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whether or not his skill set would be starting material,

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backup material. If he was more of an undrafted free

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there was a lot of question marks. But you have

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right And like, like I said, this is a victory

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lab for me. We're gonna move on from me today.

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It's not all about me. This is cougar sports. But

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we're all we should all celebrate and all dunk on

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Utah fans evals of football players, especially when they're at BYU,

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not BYU, which is completely changed post twenty sixteen with

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Klonie at the helm.

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Speaker 5: It's gone.

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Speaker 1: Look, we talk about leveling the playing field here, and

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that's one of the elements that has leveled out because

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of the investment that BYU has had in their developmental program.

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Strength and additioning nutrition health. Look at our injury report.

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How healthy are we right now? Yeah, there's Nickteing's bruises,

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but we're probably ninety five percent healthy from when we

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ordered the season. Are you kidding me? Who can say that?

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In college football, and much of your ability is based

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off your availability. When you can stay healthy, when you

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can stay strong, you can get bigger, faster, stronger, more refined.

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You're a football like you goes up because you're getting

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more reps. You're just developing. The problem with football is

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you get injured all the time. You just get injured,

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and then that sets you back in your development.

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Speaker 5: It just does.

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Speaker 1: So shout out to Killani. Kalani's building a championship program

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and finally people are taking notice and it's really really

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been accelerated post twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 5: I hope b Way You fans are able to appreciate.

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of them are just what's going

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to happen on Saturday?

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Speaker 5: Where b Way You has the specter of the nation

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in November.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's happened maybe sometimes in September to a

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lesser degree, but b Way You has the eye of

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the nation on them.

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Speaker 5: The premiere game of the entire week in November.

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Speaker 6: And it doesn't matter if Bway's been misperceived, underrated, whatever,

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b WA. He has a chance to win. They have

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a chance to just do it on the field. The

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opportunity for this game for the rest of the season

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is absolutely tremendous. They've earned it. I think they've What

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consistent thing Kalani's given this year, more so than any

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other year, is he always goes back to the plan

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that he and his coaches have had for this team

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this entire year. They've had a framework, they they've had

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a process of development that's been realized by a large

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where they know how they're gonna win games, how they

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best can manage games, and they're doing it very, very effectively.

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bigger test against Texas Tech than almost everyone is thinking

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Speaker 1: Guys, we have Brett Hammer in the house, Brett always

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bringing the hammer. He's gonna be on the digital side.

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He'll come in and out Ronald the three man Weaver

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also in the easy Uh, Ronald, how are you living buddy?

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Speaker 5: Living good? Guys?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, been love when you're right about these quarterbacks and

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you get the dunk on the Utah fans, the ones

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seeing Keaton slow as a QB two. Happy for Keaton,

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wish you would have worked out better at BAU, but

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happy to see him balling at the highest level though.

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Utah dot Com. Aaron Roderick was able to get in

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front of the media yesterday and we discussed a number

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of topics. Let's get into it. What's the expectation for

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l J Martin this week? Is he going to play?

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Speaker 2: Thanks me, we expect him to play. I mean he's

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he's practicing.

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Speaker 1: All right, having some technical difficulties with our sound. Lociento

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Pete Damilo tweeted out earlier yesterday that LJ was available.

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He's practicing, He's gonna play. I stated last Wednesday that

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I had heard through the grape vine that hey, he

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should be good to go, and it was most likely

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an ac joint separation, which can can impact the form,

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the fashion, the physical nature of a running back and

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lowering his shoulder. But I think LJ will look decent

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on Saturday versus Texas Tech. I think he'll be ready

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to go.

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Speaker 6: I listened to the interview, and I think what a

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Rod's putting out there is he doesn't really know how

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Lj's gonna respond. He hasn't taken any impact until he

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takes that first head. It's kind of hard to evaluate

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just how much they can lean and depend on l J.

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Speaker 5: Martin.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be pain tolerance, a lot of it is.

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I think LG is really tough. I think he's going

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to I think it's gonna be hard to tell that

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Lj's hurt.

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Speaker 5: I really do.

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Speaker 6: I maybe I'm too optimistic in that regard. I think

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he's a very tough kid. I think he's focused. I

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think he's gonna be ready to go. But but but

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A Rod's necessarily qualifying it because he doesn't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he really doesn't know. He's gonna have a plan

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B if he can't go.

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Speaker 6: But LJ is gonna be taking his first contact since

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sustaining that injury, so it's kind of hard to say, no,

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he's gonna be fine, He's gonna be Okay. Every injury

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is different, every way every player how they responded that injury,

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and then Dura is different, and we're just gonna gonna

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have to see him that regard.

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Speaker 1: What's the expectation for LJ this week? Aaron Roderick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we expect him to play. I mean, he's he's practicing.

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It's not sure what percent he'll be yet. You were

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still working our way through that, but I'm expecting him

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to be ready to play.

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Speaker 1: So is Eliji a physically bruising running back or is

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he more of a finesse quick he's you think he's

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a bruce.

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Speaker 5: He's an absolute bruiser. Yeah, yeah, there's no question.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's what he does.

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Speaker 6: He falls forward. I think he's kind of like Harvey Unga.

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pass running backs. I think he compares most with Tyler Alsier.

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Harvey uh not Harvey Ungu. Yeah, Harvey O good type.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He's a bruiser, sure, Okay, So will he be able

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to sustain that is the question. Yeah, right, what's the

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long term concern? Is there any surgery that's going to

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be needed down the road.

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Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to talk about his personal you know,

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like his his uh, the details of it, but I

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think he's gonna have a chance to play just how much.

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We're still still working through that in practice, seeing how

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he feels day to day.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you're not gonna get into details. I mean

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sometimes A Rod and and Jay Hill will give.

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Speaker 5: A little bit more. Jay so Jay Hill much more.

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Speaker 1: Than as very good. Like we've we've we've pulled the

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media on this. I would say like Kilanie is always

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gonna be like not not gonna give you too much,

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very rarely. Every once in a while he'll drop a

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jem and you just got to read between the lines

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a little bit. You gotta know, Kilanie, he may give

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you a little something if you like shit maybe, But

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A Rod and j they've been good, like they've been good,

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pretty pretty detailed.

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Speaker 5: No has been good. I just think Jay Hill's a

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little gives you a little bit.

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Speaker 6: He's more effusive with with with his commentary on specific

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players that I think A Rod is. I'm not saying

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a Ron's bad. I enjoy interviewing a Rod. I think

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he gives good quotes. I thought his interviews prior to

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the Utah game morale standing, Yeah, they were really really good.

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Speaker 5: So so yeah, I know I agree with your revalue.

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Speaker 3: Ben, I'm hopping in here. I think Jay Hill, like

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Gurney said, is more open. But this is what I've

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learned in my observation of your Rod. If you ask

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the right question or in a certain way, he'll give

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the answer. You know, you can't. I don't, I don't

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know have the right word for but if you just

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expect him to tell you if you go, I guess

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with that, he's gonna look at you sideways, and I've

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seen him look at myself and other people. But if

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you ask it the right way, he can catch him.

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On the right day, he's gonna give it to you.

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That's just what I've noticed my Aaron. He's a very

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friendly guy.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Lj's been physical, a guy that fights off contact.

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Can he still do that?

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll find out Saturday, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the whole that's that's what I that's

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what I can't answer it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So he's Essentially, he was asked the same question

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three times in a row.

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Speaker 5: He's done, he's done. You know, you don't want to

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answer it anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there you go. Killani Kilanie said, he's been practicing.

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This is still a right. I apologize if I'm if

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I'm confusing. Kilani said, he's been practicing. How has he

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been responding?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's practiced a lot. Really, I mean he's he's

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it's just uh yeah, he's just a little got a

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little banged up and he's practicing and we'll find out

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what he can do Saturday. And still got a couple

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more days of practice to see how he feels each

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day too.

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Speaker 1: So four times was that the same? Is that the

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same person asking the same all four?

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Speaker 5: All right? There you go?

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Speaker 3: Uh no, no, no, no, no, the first three asked by

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the same person.

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Speaker 1: That was a different person. That person everyone wants it

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all about l J.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, big news, I get it, right, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. How is Preston Rex doing? Then he went into

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the tent during the Iowa State game.

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Speaker 5: That's a good question. Yeah, he's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing doing everything, playing well and becoming a

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more complete running back every day. He you know, he

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hasn't been a running back very long, and but he's

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a super athlete and he's doing a really good job.

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Speaker 1: The Preston Rex, jovesa Enich. Those are your running backs

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right now, Logan Pain.

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Speaker 5: That's who I want to see.

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Speaker 1: That's who you want to see. It's always that's the

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most popular guy campus. Is the fifth string running back.

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That's that's a rule.

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Speaker 6: That's right, running back that led the entire state of

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Utah running senior year.

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Speaker 1: Right, who's more pot Pain? Who's more Pott?

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Speaker 5: Name right there?

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Speaker 1: Four string running back? Riley Burt or four string running back?

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Speaker 6: It's absolutely I have never in my life fielded more

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questions from fans about regarding a third or fourth string

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running back than I was with Riley Burg.

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Speaker 5: Can you tell Riley Burt Riley.

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Speaker 1: Burt that one cincinato? Yeah, that one run?

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Speaker 5: It was weird. Riley Burn had vision issues? That was

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this big problem. You had vision issues anyway? Yeah, wait

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to dig that up, criddle, Sorry like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, you know, like whenever there's like

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a I was like a deep cut.

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Speaker 5: I was so I was so annoyed. Just think is

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d I love? I thought he was a good kid.

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But stop asking about him anyway.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to it. How did the

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rest of the running back room take advantage of the

471
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bye week?

472
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had some good, good opportunities to get you know,

473
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Joevessa has been a little banged up too, so it's

474
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had been been good time for him or not Joe Vessa, Sorry, Enix,

475
00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:23,519
Now he's been a little banged up, so it's been

476
00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:26,759
good for him because he's needed that time to heal up.

477
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,039
Enix a good player, and and then we've been getting

478
00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:31,599
Joe Vessa a lot of reps too. We we have

479
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,319
a lot of a lot of faith in Joe Vessa.

480
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,680
He's he's got juice and uh, he's tough, and so

481
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,279
if we need him, he's ready to go as well.

482
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Speaker 1: Give him some love.

483
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 6: I would like to see them trot out, Joe Vessa.

484
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,240
I thought he looked pretty good. Yeah, and and by

485
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:47,759
all accounts, he's been the best looking running back while

486
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:52,039
he's been running in practices. Yeah, he fumbled bad. Stop

487
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:54,319
it doesn't he get another chance. I think he gave

488
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,200
a guy another chance. You fumbled the one time.

489
00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 5: That's bad. You can't do that. Give him a second chance.

490
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,599
Speaker 6: That's the That's typically the rule for NFL running backs.

491
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,599
You fumble once, it's like, okay, we got your eyes.

492
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,359
You fumbled twice, you're done. That should be the rule

493
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,400
with Joves, in my opinion, put him out there if

494
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you had a healthy stable backs that you knew could

495
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get it done. Okay, yeah, maybe maybe you Hinkley repotting

496
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him and we don't see him for a year. But

497
00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:23,279
given the situation b what you currently has and with

498
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,039
how the running backs have looked not great, I think

499
00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:29,279
you trot out Joe Bessa. You give them another chance.

500
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Absent my guy Logan pain.

501
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,599
Speaker 1: You don't want to create like a Hinkly Rapati situation

502
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:37,720
right where you're not utilizing a talent just because he

503
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,599
fumbled once upon a time. Yeah, but I will say

504
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:45,519
this much. You guys got to realize that much of

505
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:50,880
what happens with playing time is based off of trust.

506
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,240
And like, trust is an interesting thing, right, Everyone's like, well,

507
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,839
if they're talented, if they're highly rated, you know, they're athletic,

508
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:02,960
then they probably trust him, right, And that may be

509
00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:06,880
true at times, but not always, Like it's like there

510
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,559
has to be trust that the player is going to

511
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do the job and not make the coach look bad.

512
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,599
You could be the biggest, the strongest, the fastest and

513
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,240
winning reps, but until you do it in a game

514
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:26,079
like sometimes there's a little bit of there's not a

515
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,119
full amount of trust, So like earning that trust back

516
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if you do fumble is an interesting dilemma. And a

517
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:40,200
Rod may be distrustful sometimes, but he's like gone out

518
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,599
of his way now over the last two weeks to

519
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:45,119
say no, I love Javessa. I think he's great, he's

520
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,440
got juice, he's a good football player. He's been dinged

521
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,319
up too, so I don't know. It's hard to know

522
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,400
exactly what a Rod is thinking because you have the

523
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,200
Hinklu Rapata situation where he fumbled and had some ball

524
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,400
security issues and he did not see the field for

525
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,759
a long time until the Boise State game in which

526
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:08,880
he had a great game. It was fantastic back into

527
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,720
the good graces. So if you're Harvey and you're you're

528
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,440
you're you're advocating for Joe Vessa and you feel like

529
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:21,559
he's you know, corrected his his ways in ball security,

530
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,920
then then you say, hey, like remember Hinckley, that's what

531
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,160
you're trying to say. Yeah, that's what you're trying to

532
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,640
convince me, Like, hey, let's give it another.

533
00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:30,839
Speaker 5: Chance, give it another trust his heart.

534
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:34,759
Speaker 1: Trust This hard to be. It's hard to to to

535
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:39,680
gain and once you've lost it, it's hard to get back.

536
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so uh.

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557
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com and ought to review it. No obligation for the Bescuda.

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The facts moved life.

560
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Speaker 5: If you want to say money on your backs.

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Speaker 1: You can do that with banterwell Vander dot com.

562
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Speaker 6: So this is a remix, it's a remake, it's a cover.

563
00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:06,319
Speaker 1: It's a cover.

564
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 5: Ring a Fire, Ring a Fire by Social Distortion.

565
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:13,599
Speaker 1: Social Distortion g Man chose the demand of the name

566
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,759
song of the Day. I had brought to you by

567
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Royal Army Brand dot com. What you swagged grew to

568
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buy beans for bank.

569
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Speaker 5: I had a roommate that was the norm of social

570
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:24,039
distortion and he kind of got me into them.

571
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:25,759
Speaker 1: So is this their best song?

572
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 5: No?

573
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: What's their best song?

574
00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 5: Ball and Chain?

575
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,839
Speaker 1: Ball and Chain. Find Ball and Chain real quick, just

576
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,920
so I can listen to it. Ronald Ball and Chain.

577
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,519
You don't like that, Yeah, I ran a Fire is good.

578
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,160
I mean I like the original there. I like the

579
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,960
original of that one. Like it's a little bit too

580
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,319
indie for me, Like I don't love it.

581
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 5: It's all right, It's fantastic, Yeah, it's okay, stop it.

582
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:52,319
Speaker 1: Mas samandoms six seven stop stop it as the kid

583
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:55,680
of say six seven, I hate thos.

584
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 5: Well, I don't. I don't understand the sixth seven just

585
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,119
from seven.

586
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: It's it's mustamanos, it's it's plase. What what you just

587
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:05,400
chose was a Blase song and a Blase it.

588
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:06,799
Speaker 5: Was a fantastic song.

589
00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't need it. I don't like it. It's

590
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:11,279
sixty seven.

591
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 5: No, it was fantastic's six seven. No, you're wrong anyway.

592
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,519
Speaker 1: Like I chose earlier this week, Fleetwood Mac that is

593
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:22,720
that was a good pick that I mean, that's like

594
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one of the greatest, you know what I mean.

595
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: So you're gonna need more from me from Band of

596
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,880
the Days. I need more from gem I thought that

597
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,960
was a fantastic pick. I thought it was a good pick.

598
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:32,480
G Man, I liked it.

599
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Speaker 6: It was okay, I said, six seven anyway, moving on,

600
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:40,079
whatever I failed you, I did not fail the audience

601
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:40,799
because they loved it.

602
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: But did they love it?

603
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:42,039
Speaker 5: Yeah?

604
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,319
Speaker 1: Find Ball and Chain because I didn't like that better.

605
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:49,279
Speaker 5: Probably Goulda chose I played ball and change.

606
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:57,279
Speaker 1: Is it. Yeah, we're gonna get into some sound here. Momentarily,

607
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:05,160
Aaron Roderick had discussing this Billy Cooper football team, reping

608
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:08,000
us for the Texas that game, give me a little

609
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:16,279
scattered report. I hate this too. Social Distortion sucks. I

610
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,680
at least at least the cover like there's like some

611
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,640
like nostalgia in history and like an original songwriter and

612
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:31,480
musician that created the basis and foundation for glory and

613
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:33,160
victory on the guitar.

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Speaker 5: You're wrong. Social Distortion is a great band.

615
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:37,359
Speaker 1: That song socks.

616
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,279
Speaker 5: No, it was fantastic.

617
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:45,279
Speaker 1: It's really bad. That's like a one two for me.

618
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,079
Not a good song, not listenable. All right, guys, we're

619
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gonna get into a questioning poll of.

620
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Speaker 5: The day is beautiated mocked?

621
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,559
Speaker 1: No, I look not a good band.

622
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Speaker 5: No, just move on. I'll never pick Social Distortion.

623
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: Let me thank you. I appreciate that. One of my

624
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:06,440
questions is this, What did the colleg football Playoff committee

625
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:10,519
get right? What did they get wrong? So this is

626
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:13,839
your rankings for those that have not been caught up

627
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:18,200
to speed. Ohio State one, Indiana two, Texas A and

628
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M three, Alabama fod Georgia five, Ole, Miss six, BYU seven,

629
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Texas Tech eight, Oregon nine Notre Dame ten, Texas eleven,

630
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Oklahoma twelve, Utah thirteen, Virginia fourteen, Louisville fifteen, sixteen IS Vanderbilt,

631
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seventeen is Georgia Tech, eighteen IS Miami, usc is nineteen,

632
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,920
Iowa is twenty twenty one Michigan twenty two, Missoo twenty

633
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,400
three Washington, twenty four pit and twenty five Tennessee. What

634
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,880
did you feel they got right? G Man? And what

635
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:54,359
do you feel they got wrong this go around? For

636
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,359
the initial rankings, I think.

637
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Speaker 6: It's absolutely perfect. I thought about this a lot. It's

638
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,839
really hard for me to make a Bible. Are you, oh,

639
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,759
b where you got scrawl? They should be ranked higher

640
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:06,079
than that.

641
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,319
Speaker 5: No, Georgia has one well as one loss was the

642
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:10,240
whole miss.

643
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Speaker 6: And they barely lost or maybe it was vice Per

644
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,200
I don't remember, but their quality quality losses in front

645
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,039
of B WAYU, I think seven is exactly what B.

646
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:20,359
Speaker 5: Way you should be ranked right now.

647
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:25,079
Speaker 6: It's hard for me to find any qualms where Bway

648
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:26,559
fans are always up in arms.

649
00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:28,599
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, just respecting all that, you're ready to

650
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,000
go the drop of a hat.

651
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,759
Speaker 6: I'm not seeing that on social media. I'm not seeing

652
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:35,279
that on Cougar board. I'm not seeing that on the Twitter.

653
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,799
Bway fans are very satiated by this number seven ranking.

654
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's exactly where b Way you should be.

655
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 6: I think they did it by way you exactly right

656
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,880
with this designation is the number seven team. And I

657
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,920
think what's helping BWA used causes that went over Utah

658
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,480
big time, big, big, big time, because they love Utah

659
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,039
for some reason. It's the margin of victory. It's all

660
00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:59,599
that where Bay where you talk and as b Way

661
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:03,920
you beat them and they're on and they're undefeated. I

662
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,640
think that's helping me with you Utah, thanks get thanks

663
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,239
to the University of Meutia. I think you're helping be

664
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what he's causing that regard. It would be tremendous if

665
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,920
the Big twelve got two bins. It's looking like it's

666
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going to get two bits.

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00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,599
Speaker 1: Just so you know foundationally what we're seeing with this

668
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:24,400
particular this particular committee. And I tried with Bretty Ormick

669
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about this at the Big Twelve media days. I said, look,

670
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I believe that there's too much human element in the

671
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,360
committee and they have to begin to at least wait

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00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:40,320
it somewhat equally with objective metrics across a multitude. I mean,

673
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,719
we're living in twenty twenty five in a tech world

674
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,360
filled with AI, and we're just allowing the human committees

675
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:54,639
to corruptly or incompetently either one. I have questions about

676
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:58,920
choose who's the best team and best teams in college football? So,

677
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:02,000
like I do I think most of this, I'm like,

678
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,000
I feel like it's pretty good. Like I don't have

679
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:08,519
much to disagree on. You can maybe move a few

680
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:10,800
teams around. But Brett, I know you have some comments

681
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,840
on this. I'm gonna I'm gonna follow up after you

682
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,639
chin in. Yeah.

683
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:15,679
Speaker 9: I want to give you guys something that may make

684
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,079
you look at the committee's rankings in a different way.

685
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: I just read this. This is from David Hale.

686
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Speaker 9: He did his ESPN FBI Anger Index, so people who

687
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should be most enthralled about where their team was ranked

688
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:31,320
in the college football playoff ranking. So he put together

689
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,000
a blind resume. Just listen to this and just see

690
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what you think. Because I initially was with you, Gurney,

691
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:39,119
I was like, you know what, I think, BOU is

692
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exactly where.

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00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,159
Speaker 5: They should be.

694
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Speaker 1: And then I listened to this.

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Speaker 9: So team A in the blind resume number three, strength

696
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of record, number thirty three, strength of schedule four and

697
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,679
overs s P plus top forty opponents, and their best

698
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,519
win was number eleven in the committee's initial poll. So

699
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:57,519
that's teammate Team B number four in strength of record

700
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:01,119
very similar, number forty five, strength of skied very similar

701
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three and ozero versus s P plus top forty opponents

702
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very similar. Their best win was number thirteen in the

703
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committee's poll. Team A was Ohio State, the number one

704
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team at the College Ofwall PLANFF rankings, and Team.

705
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: B would be one B y you cougar, Yes, So

706
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,239
if anything that what did they get wrong? And I

707
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,760
had this conversation like, look, BYU's undefeated, and they have

708
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,559
pretty good metrics backing them up right now, and then

709
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,719
you see what the committee put out and what they

710
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,559
like behind BYU two and that win versus Utah, they

711
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:39,559
get it. They get to go against Texas Tech, the

712
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,920
other team that's sitting right at number eight behind them.

713
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:45,119
You could make an argument that BOU deserves to be

714
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:50,480
in the top five, right, like at worst, right like

715
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:54,000
I I would have been appalled if they would have

716
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:56,920
been lower than nine. Yeah, like I would have been

717
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:05,800
a strung would have been fined six seven eight sixty

718
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,440
seven eight.

719
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:11,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got it, six seven sixty seven six seven grey, Yeah,

720
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:11,679
I got it.

721
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: But metrically speaking, you could make a case to make

722
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,920
look and that's what David Hall said, like the number

723
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,119
one team that you could say like they deserve better

724
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:27,079
is BYU. He also makes a case for Louisville at

725
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,639
seven and one, number fifteen. We get it as accomplished.

726
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:33,360
The acc might in fact just be an episode of

727
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,440
Punked that Ashton Kutcher started in two thousand and eight

728
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,400
then got distracted forgot to let everyone know it was

729
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,599
a prank. Right reference Yeah, great reference Team A number ten,

730
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,039
blind resume number ten, strength of record number fifty eight,

731
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:51,920
strength of schedule one win in the SB plus top

732
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,440
forty best win versus Committee's number thirteen team lone loss

733
00:37:56,559 --> 00:38:01,159
versus an unranked team, so a bad loss right team

734
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:03,800
B number thirteen, strength of record number fifty six, strength

735
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,800
of schedule three wins versus SB plus top forty best

736
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,199
win versus Committee's number eighteen team loan loss to Committee's

737
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,519
number fourteen team. This is basically a coin flippy states,

738
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:20,199
though given the additional wins versus high level opponents and

739
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,119
a better loss, it would be hard to argue against

740
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:27,480
Team B right add to that teams, Team b's loan

741
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:31,000
loss came in double overtime in a game when it

742
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,519
outgained its opponent by one hundred and fifty yards. Surely

743
00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:37,000
you would be on Team B side right now. Well,

744
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:43,360
not surprisingly, Team B is Louisville. Team A is Texas Tech,

745
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,199
ranked seven spots higher at number eight. Let's go back

746
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,119
to the beginning of the season when we aggregated poll

747
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,239
data in the ap Pole era. The most overrated team

748
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:01,519
in college football since the beginnings of the Ape Paul,

749
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,440
at least in the modern era, it was Texas A

750
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,280
and m or Waste, and the most underrated team was

751
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,920
B y U I knew, I knew B way is

752
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,920
the most but the most overrated team. The teams that

753
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:15,239
are overhyped and over ranked at the beginning of the

754
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,039
season and end up floundering on the back end three loss,

755
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:23,199
four loss, five loss, six loss. Texas A and m

756
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,039
Utah was also in that group. By the way, I

757
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:26,599
know it has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

758
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:28,480
I just like to point that out. They're the most

759
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:31,480
overrated too, which you hope they're not this year, you know,

760
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:37,039
because that helps BOU and the the resume. UH just

761
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:40,800
don't let Utah fans pick NFL talent out. They're just

762
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,519
not very good at it.

763
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:43,159
Speaker 5: Here's what's gonna happen with the University of Utah.

764
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:44,679
Speaker 6: They're gonna win out and they're not gonna go to

765
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:45,840
the College Football Playoff.

766
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 5: They're gonna go to a bowl game.

767
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 6: They're gonna dominate, and the Utah fans are gonna just

768
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:55,280
they're gonna you know, Utah would have all they would

769
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,320
have mashed it and they will ride with that.

770
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: You think, so you don't think if if you Utah

771
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,840
wins out. Let me give you this scenario. Let's say

772
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,599
BYU beats Texas Tech, right, and Texas Tech after that

773
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:09,400
wins out. So now they are a two loss team

774
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,800
and they end up in the UH in the in

775
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,119
the championship game with BYU, BYU loses to Texas Tech

776
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,960
and and Utah wins out. There's the rest of their schedule.

777
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:24,159
I think it's a possibility that Utah overtakes b where

778
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,239
you know that all three Big twelve teams couldn't get

779
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,880
into the College Football playoff. No, it's a possibility, especially

780
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:34,880
especially if Utah continues to dominate offensively and defensively. Like

781
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,480
dr right now, if it is, you don't obviously you

782
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:39,880
have to put b yu in Texas Tech into the

783
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,000
college football player could by that time, by that time, like,

784
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:46,199
I don't know how far. I don't know how far

785
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,000
Texas Tech is going to drop if this is a

786
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:52,800
close game, if this is a one score game, I

787
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,760
don't know how far they're gonna drop with those two losses.

788
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,079
Speaker 6: If that makes sense, it's definitely a possibility. I just

789
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:02,079
can't see a scenario. Or they invite three Big twelve

790
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,559
teams to the college football player.

791
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't think that's gonna happen.

792
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,199
Speaker 6: Maybe it's Utah because they they're obviously enamored with Utah,

793
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,239
So maybe Utah is going to to push that envelope

794
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,440
in that regard. But I think the ultimate destination for

795
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:18,519
Utah is the Alamo Bowl. Or they can just dominate

796
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:22,559
and just pat themselves on the back. Wow, Oh, if

797
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:26,760
only if only we had Cam rising, if only they

798
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,480
we would.

799
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 5: Have gotten that golden passage.

800
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 6: Then they'll go forward next you're booed up with that

801
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,159
lose their entire offensive line and oh, how come you're

802
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:35,119
not as good this year?

803
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,199
Speaker 1: Well, somebody told me Devin dan Pierce was to win

804
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:38,840
the Heisman. I swear a couple of fans told me

805
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,599
that before the season. No, maybe every fan of Utah

806
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:47,880
on Twitter. So maybe Devin Depier, I mean Bert Faklin

807
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,920
is just they have two Heights candidates right now.

808
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 5: Wow, can I say someone about Utah football? That offensive

809
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,880
line is so good they could make.

810
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,199
Speaker 6: A lot of very mediocre players look out standing. And

811
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,039
that's exactly what's happening this year.

812
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:09,639
Speaker 1: Really, that's exact. And I'm not I don't know that

813
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:12,000
I that much. I just don't know if i'd say it.

814
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 6: I'm not criticizing Utah. They deserve tremendous prossle putting that

815
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:20,239
offensive line together. That is the best offensive line in

816
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,320
the country, highest rate of weekend and week out. They

817
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,000
recruited as tremendous. But just don't give me Bird Fackland

818
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:31,199
and Devon dam Pier because it is all that offensive line.

819
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,760
I watched every Utah game this year except last week

820
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,719
because I have YouTube TV, so I was preempted from

821
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:36,480
watching that game.

822
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,119
Speaker 5: They are all offensive line and that's exactly what they

823
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:40,559
should be.

824
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:43,599
Speaker 6: Jason Beck is a very very smart individual. Put it

825
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:45,559
at all on that offensive line. They're responding and they're

826
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:51,840
making those guys look phenomenal. Everyone's you give Bird Fackland

827
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,960
a mediocre offensive line.

828
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,119
Speaker 5: Guess what, Bird Faklin's a.

829
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:58,039
Speaker 6: Mediocre Sorry, that's the truth of the matter. And I'm

830
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:01,840
not ripping on Utah. You deserve props for putting forth

831
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,519
the most outstanding offensive line in the entire country, developing them.

832
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 5: It's fantastic.

833
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 6: Every bway you finis should be envious of what Utah

834
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,199
is doing with that offensive line production. Probably two first

835
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,480
round draft picks. Uh Fano's going in the first round. Yeah,

836
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:24,639
Caleb Lomo could go really high. Yeah, they're fantastic. So

837
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,440
both of them should be a b. That's Utah's offense.

838
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,559
And guess what, all five of your starters are gone

839
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:30,159
next year.

840
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,039
Speaker 5: All of them, all of them.

841
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 6: I'm just just a warning Utah fans just just just

842
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:38,360
be aware of that.

843
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: Be aware. So anyway, let's take a brief time out.

844
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,280
What what did the committee get right? What did they

845
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,119
get wrong? What did they get right? What did they

846
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:49,599
get wrong? What do you got from me?

847
00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:50,039
Speaker 5: Ronald.

848
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:59,079
Speaker 1: Okay, uh so, before we go to break, Before we

849
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:01,679
go to breakladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. As we

850
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:04,559
were going off on a tangent, want to remind all

851
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:10,639
you Cougar fans in Cougar Country that the Four Horsemen

852
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:16,159
are back to unite with a new generation of illusionists.

853
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Now you see me, Now you don't. It's coming to

854
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,239
theaters and ESPN. The fan has your chance to win

855
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a four pack of tickets to an advanced screening on

856
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,639
November tenth at Makeuplex Valley Fair. Tune in at eight

857
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,519
thirty am on Bryson Bianucci for your chance to win

858
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:38,880
a four pack of tickets. Is that tomorrow? Tune in

859
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,440
at tomorrow at at eight thirty am, Ronald the three

860
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:43,760
man weave.

861
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: Yes, They're gonna be doing it all week, so you

862
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,840
just keep tuning in every day at eight thirty for

863
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,159
the rest of the week to find out.

864
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 5: Yes.

865
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,159
Speaker 1: Okay a thirty am Bryson Bianuci for your chance to

866
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:54,800
win a four pack of tickets. Now you see me,

867
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,039
Now you don't. Let's take a brief time out. We'll

868
00:44:57,039 --> 00:44:59,199
be back with more. Aaron Roder commentary. What is his

869
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,360
Scott reports about the Texas Tech Red Raiders, and that segment,

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We will never play Social Distortion again. I am from

872
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:12,320
the from the show. That is a absolutely, that is

873
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,239
a trash man. In fact, I'm gonna look them up

874
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,559
on the break and see if I can find a

875
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:18,239
song that I like so that you know, I.

876
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,639
Speaker 5: Played Social Distortion before on the show.

877
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd probably let you slide with it, you know.

878
00:45:24,519 --> 00:45:27,480
I'm like, because the Ring of Fire, you probably played

879
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:30,760
that same song at least once. Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like,

880
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,400
and I'm like, I'm okay with That's why I said

881
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,360
six seven but not today. I just don't want to

882
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,159
hear it again. I mean, if I want to listen,

883
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,320
I'll try.

884
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 5: To do baar next time.

885
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: If from the show, if I want to listen to

886
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:48,039
it an oldie, but goodie, I'm gond not the new

887
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:49,920
he you know, I don't want to listen to that.

888
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:51,199
Speaker 5: Fair enough, We'll.

889
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000
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00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,400
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banterwel dot com Today We're gonna talk about some stats

912
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,199
and get a little scattering report. My buddy Adam just

913
00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:00,800
texting me said, Social Distortions. Best song is Story of

914
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,400
my Life. I kid you not. I went to like

915
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,840
I told you, I promised you. I went to their

916
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:12,039
best Songs on Apple Music and I played that song.

917
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:14,559
I'm like, Okay, I like this song Story of my Life.

918
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 6: I have never been more besead with criticism in the

919
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,440
history of this program than.

920
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,199
Speaker 5: I have today. Yeah.

921
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,639
Speaker 6: So, like, but I am a professional. I'm not gonna

922
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:26,559
take it personally. I'm gonna try, but this has been

923
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:27,039
hard for me.

924
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of your eighties stuff I like,

925
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:36,159
and this is nineties though, yeah this is nineties indie.

926
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,599
This isn't my wheelhard stuff like this is.

927
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,199
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, this isn't my wheelhouse. Admittedly.

928
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Adam, you were right, Like I just so

929
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,880
you know, Adam, I went before you sent that to me.

930
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,519
I had I had listened to that song of I

931
00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:50,760
like this one. I give it like I give Story

932
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,639
of my life, probably like a seven eight, not a

933
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:56,320
six seven. But I do like ring a Fire I

934
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,159
dig I mean it's sixty seven. You know I can

935
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:00,239
listen to it without being like I wanted I want

936
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,519
to punch myself with the face ball and shame not

937
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:07,599
not so I didn't like that anyway. Let's get into

938
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:10,639
some comics from Aaron Roders show. We talk some stats.

939
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:15,280
What stands out to you number seven, Numero day, What

940
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,719
stands out to you about this Texas Tech defense?

941
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:22,119
Speaker 2: Man, this is the best defense we've played, probably since

942
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,400
Texas in twenty twenty three. I'd say they're right up

943
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,559
there with those guys. This D line is they're freaks

944
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:30,280
and they're really good players. Their linebackers are great. Everybody

945
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,920
knows that good secondary. They have no personnel weaknesses. They

946
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,920
have a very good scheme, very well coached. I have

947
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,559
a lot of respect for their defensive coordinator.

948
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're good.

949
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,679
Speaker 2: They don't they don't really have any weaknesses, and they

950
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,800
they get turnovers many. They strip the ball as well

951
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,400
as any team.

952
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 5: I've ever seen.

953
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,119
Speaker 6: Man thoughts, that's stripping the ball. Things real, and I

954
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:56,679
know you love that. You love that linebacker stripping that football.

955
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,920
That's a very bolt we've been talking about a right

956
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:00,880
gives any interviews.

957
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 5: That is a gem right there.

958
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,199
Speaker 6: Stating that this is the best defense. Because we search

959
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,760
for comments about that all the time. Usually they don't

960
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,159
bite Kalawne never bites for ay Rod just to come

961
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:13,760
out and say, this is the best defense we played

962
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,639
since Texas of twenty twenty three.

963
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 5: That specific, that's effusive.

964
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 6: That's money right there, And you know what I love

965
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,559
about that? That wasn't the twenty twenty four Utah defense.

966
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:30,119
Speaker 5: Wasn't what wasn't the twenty twenty five Utah defense.

967
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:35,039
Speaker 6: No, this is the best defense and it's bad that

968
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,599
that front seven is tremendous.

969
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 5: Those defensive ends are as good as Utah's defensive ends.

970
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 6: But where Texas Tech's going to be that much more

971
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,360
formidable is defensive tackles. That interior is going to be

972
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,840
tough to run on the way you was able to

973
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,559
run on Utah unlike I've seen b what you do

974
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,599
in recent history.

975
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 5: It's gonna be tough sledding against Texas Tech. You need LJ.

976
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 6: Martin really really bad in this game because they're formidable

977
00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:05,679
and they're gonna be stripping that ball man.

978
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 5: We talked about Joe Vesson, the moody coming back.

979
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:12,159
Speaker 6: Maybe this isn't the game you get it back because

980
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,360
Texas Tech makes things happen in that regard. But anyway,

981
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,559
props to a Rod for giving us the pretext and

982
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,159
the glimpse of exactly what BA use up against comes

983
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:25,880
Saturday with this defensive.

984
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: Front Texas Texas Texas defense is ranked eighth in the

985
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:35,719
country per ESPN SP plus metric, so very efficient, very effective,

986
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:43,679
very good in all facets. So this is objectively and

987
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,199
from the eye test, the best defense that BOA has

988
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,199
faced obviously this year. But I would have to go

989
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:51,760
back and look at that Texas defense from a talent standpoint,

990
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,800
that Texas defense was extremely good, and Texas Tech definitely

991
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,199
invested into that defensive front, maybe more so than any

992
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,719
you know, any other group that that defensive front of

993
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,519
those first seventies extremely expensive and extremely talented. And the

994
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:11,039
crazy thing is is like how cohesive they are, Like

995
00:51:11,079 --> 00:51:14,679
they play well together. That doesn't always happen. Okay, you

996
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,199
get a bunch of guys that you bought on the

997
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,239
free market and you try to put them in the

998
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,159
same room, and like a lot of times, they just don't.

999
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,159
They don't align, they don't buy in, they don't put

1000
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:29,199
in the effort, they don't execute. Tech is executing and

1001
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,360
they've been exeuting since day one. Let's get back to it.

1002
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,920
What do you need to see from your guys to

1003
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,400
slow down this Red Raiders defense, Well.

1004
00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: We just have to execute, you know, we have to

1005
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,000
you know, we have to stick within our identity. You know,

1006
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:45,920
you you you know, when you play a defense, that's

1007
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,920
good if you know, you try to have some wrinkles

1008
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,320
for them. But at the same time, if you do

1009
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,679
too much new stuff, then you're not gonna play fast.

1010
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,159
And so we're trying to find that right balance of

1011
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:58,960
having some things that give them trouble, but also stick

1012
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,039
to our core identity and be physical and execute our

1013
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,039
our core things. And you know, that's really what it's

1014
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:08,159
gonna come down to, is just those individual matchups, every player,

1015
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,800
you know, executing a block or executing an assignment, you know,

1016
00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:14,719
And I'm sure it's gonna be the same thing for them.

1017
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:15,440
They're really good.

1018
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: What's by us offensive weakness? Would you say.

1019
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 5: Maybe the offensive line hasn't been as consistent as.

1020
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: You would like in which way? In what way?

1021
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 6: Just as far as past pro it just seems like

1022
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,280
there's there's times where they just seem overwhelmed. Opening up

1023
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,920
against Iowa State is like Utah certainly seems like they adjusted,

1024
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,320
and I don't think the offensive line play has been

1025
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,400
poorced by any means, but if you're looking at maybe

1026
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:47,519
the interior has been fantastic I think for the most part,

1027
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,000
but I think the tackle play they've got to be

1028
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,199
better coming out than they were against Utah. You remember

1029
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:55,519
against Utah, John Henry Daily was in on every single play.

1030
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:59,119
They made some adjustments, acclimated with regards to that kind

1031
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:00,559
of went tight zone and just kind of took it

1032
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:02,760
away just by running the football and all that. I

1033
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,920
don't know if they're going to have the means to

1034
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,039
do that effectively this time around, but they've got to slow.

1035
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,519
Speaker 5: Down those defensive vents.

1036
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:12,159
Speaker 6: It's going to be a big, big game for Isaiah

1037
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:14,760
Jada and Andrew Gentry. They have to have the best

1038
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,719
games they've had all year. I'm a big fan of

1039
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,400
both of them. I think they've been good this year.

1040
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,039
They've got to be great come Saturday.

1041
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Roderick, how do you feel the team has done

1042
00:53:26,679 --> 00:53:29,519
and performed during the bye week? Good?

1043
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1044
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: I think we have a mature team, you know. I

1045
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,960
think our guys make the most of it. I think

1046
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,360
our players Klanie really preaches, you know, just he calls

1047
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,280
it the low hanging fruit of getting sleep and nutrition

1048
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,559
and taking care of your body and doing the right things.

1049
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:48,480
And I think our guys are been using the time

1050
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:51,119
off the right way. And I think we practiced enough

1051
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,320
to get some good work in, but we also got

1052
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,760
a lot of good rest and get some guys healthy.

1053
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: Music to my ears.

1054
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 5: You like that.

1055
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: It's like as we get older, As we get older,

1056
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:10,119
we realize just how beneficial hydration nutrition, uh, being in

1057
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:15,440
an in an anti inflammatory state, uh, being sleep deprived,

1058
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,519
and how that impacts our performance, our mental acuity, uh

1059
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:22,039
fasting whatever it may be. Right, Like, we begin to it.

1060
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,960
It's like when we were younger, you could do the

1061
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,239
all nighters. I could drink jolt and play to rock

1062
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:32,960
on my N sixty four all night and and and

1063
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,159
we did that. Oh yeah, the Jolt, Yeah, oh yeah,

1064
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,960
jolt playing in to rock all yeah. Wow.

1065
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:43,639
Speaker 6: This is the most similar I've ever felt. This is

1066
00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:47,760
the most we've ever connected. Yeah, we were connected here.

1067
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,320
I thought it was warcraft.

1068
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 1: I thought that we were connected by I thought we

1069
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:57,519
were bound warcraft craft. Yeah, little Bloodluss, you know what

1070
00:54:57,559 --> 00:55:00,000
I mean. Ye, shout out to all the nerds out there.

1071
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:03,360
I'm a jock nerd guys, So don't hate on me. Okay,

1072
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,000
I'm one of you. I may make fun of you

1073
00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:08,519
for your football takes, but I will not make fun

1074
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:12,039
of you for a Warcraft two takes or Warcraft three takes.

1075
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:14,079
I'm not a World of Warcraft guy. Not that that's

1076
00:55:14,159 --> 00:55:17,079
like never ending up as a nerd well, because you

1077
00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:22,599
never finish anything. So it's like constant like development with

1078
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,559
no end in sight, like I need a mission accomplishment,

1079
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,719
like okay, put it away type of deal. Anyway, A

1080
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,360
couple last things from a rot. What are your expectations

1081
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,039
for bear Bachmar? What do you want to see from

1082
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:36,800
him this week?

1083
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, just just the same.

1084
00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: I mean each each week he improves a little bit

1085
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,079
and that's what we're looking for. And as the challenges

1086
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:46,840
get more difficult, you need him to just keep finding

1087
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,039
incremental ways to get a little bit better each game.

1088
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:51,159
Speaker 1: He has exceeded my.

1089
00:55:51,159 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: Expectations multiple times this year already, and these guys are good.

1090
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,559
This could be a game where maybe he struggles a

1091
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:01,440
little bit for part of the or whatever, but I

1092
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,920
think that he has the character to battle through and

1093
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,800
really looking forward to seeing how he does in this environment.

1094
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: The fact that he's exceeding the expectation of Aaron Roderick.

1095
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:17,400
I think it needs to be evaluated. That's a strong

1096
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,840
statement to me. That's the best quote from the day

1097
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:26,559
in my opinion, because this is a guy, Aaron Roderick,

1098
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:31,000
that has wanted Bear since like eighth grade, right, and

1099
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:34,320
like he has ever since he started recruiting him. He's

1100
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,840
won it. When he entered the port, he's like, this

1101
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,880
is my guy. Barre had come in and earn it.

1102
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,480
But by the first day he says he's brilliant. So

1103
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,000
he's brilliant first day, and then you get into the

1104
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:51,159
season and he's now overachieved versus the expectations of a Rod.

1105
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:51,880
Year one.

1106
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 6: The watershed game was the Colorado game. I think that's

1107
00:56:56,039 --> 00:56:58,440
the game where he arrived and it was no doubt

1108
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,079
this kid is special. And I told the story before.

1109
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:02,880
I was at the Colorade game. I was on the field.

1110
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,639
Speaker 5: I have never seen Aaron Rodders who's kind of a

1111
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,360
you know, he's reserved. He's not that guy. He was

1112
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,559
kissing babies, he was given hugs. I was standing there.

1113
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 6: I felt a side hug. I looked behind him, his Hey,

1114
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,519
Rod Rod. I mean, he didn't know who I was.

1115
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:19,320
He would he would want nothing to do with me

1116
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:20,599
if he knew who I was. But he was just

1117
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,920
that he didn't care. He was so excited because that

1118
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:28,599
guy exceeded his expectation. He went beyond, above and beyond

1119
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,599
what a Rod even thought possible.

1120
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:34,239
Speaker 5: And he was giddy. Oh, he was giddy. He was

1121
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,119
he was joyous. It was really cool seeing a Rod

1122
00:57:37,239 --> 00:57:37,480
like that.

1123
00:57:38,199 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 6: And Bear has responded and even elevated his game in

1124
00:57:42,119 --> 00:57:43,760
every game since.

1125
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,199
Speaker 5: And if Bear just just gives.

1126
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,679
Speaker 6: The same performance he has this next week, is he's

1127
00:57:49,679 --> 00:57:51,400
shown so far this season.

1128
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 5: Maybe disappointment because he's elevated his play every single game.

1129
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 6: He really has that That's what you expect with a

1130
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,159
freshman quarterback, is you expect that learning curve to be

1131
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:03,320
kind of traumatic that first year, and you're seeing that

1132
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,239
with Bear Bogmeyer. And it's kind of tough because he's

1133
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,360
risen in his standards so much. Do you think, well,

1134
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:10,639
what else can he do? I think what he can

1135
00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:13,320
do is throwing the football more effectively and beating a

1136
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,280
team in that way. And he's been good in that.

1137
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:18,159
He's very good in that against Iowa State, and he's

1138
00:58:18,199 --> 00:58:20,679
gonna have to do that again again against Texas Tech.

1139
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,679
Chase Roberts, he's ready for that ball. I want to

1140
00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:26,400
see him. He's been really good. His connection with Parker

1141
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,519
Kingston and Chase Roberts, they've been tremendous, and you want

1142
00:58:28,519 --> 00:58:31,039
to look for those guys often because they're fantastic. I'd

1143
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:32,679
like to see him branch out a bit. I think

1144
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:34,920
that's the progression I want to see from this Bayu offense.

1145
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,440
I think it will help out a lot. If Cody

1146
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,360
Hagen gets more involved, maybe Jojo Phillis. By all accounts,

1147
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,360
he's gonna be back. I don't know how involved you

1148
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,760
can make that guy. I'd like to see Carson Ryan

1149
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,280
get more reps. We talk about injuries. Carson Ryan has

1150
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,639
been dang man. He hasn't been able to get off

1151
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,760
as well. I think the spy's gonna really help Carson Ryan.

1152
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,679
No one's talking about Carson Ryan and how hurt he is.

1153
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,480
It's pretty apparent to me that he's gutting.

1154
00:58:59,159 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: Through a lot.

1155
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 5: Out there.

1156
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 6: Defense I point out Isac Laster I've done so on

1157
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,440
the show. That's a little more obvious. But yeah, I

1158
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,480
just want to see Bear kind of get outside. Just

1159
00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:11,119
the Parker Kingston, Chase Roberts thing, which is really hard

1160
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:13,320
for me to say because those guys are really good

1161
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,440
and they're they're they need a lot of looks. But

1162
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:18,840
I think Texas Tech is so competent with that front four,

1163
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,760
they're gonna be dropping coverages there. I don't think Texas

1164
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,679
Tech needs to stack the box as much to stop

1165
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:27,639
the way he's offense. So you're gonna see tougher coverages.

1166
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,239
It's probably gonna be a lot like Arizona. That's what

1167
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,000
I think they're gonna be facing, but with a better

1168
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:34,880
front seven than Arizona is. I think what Texas Tech

1169
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,639
is is so so yeah, let's see it. I think

1170
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,320
Cody Hagen's gonna have maybe Bretchie Frischneck. He's out there,

1171
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he's healthy. Maybe this is the game, he writes. But

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but yeah, I think that's gonna be a key components.

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You've got to spread that wealth around you. You gotta

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look for other guys, good.

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Speaker 1: Supporting cast, no doubt, and uh, look, I'm gonna take

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a quote real quick as we finished this up.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: John Beck joined us earlier this week and said bear

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Bachmeier's skill set in a runs offense, we're a match made.

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Speaker 5: In Heaven certainly appears that way, and so.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to set a bar that's too high

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to jump over. But if we do, it's all Bear's fault.

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It's all air Rod's fault for setting that bar. So

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hyphen So the thing is with Bear, He's not going

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to disappoint. I'm very commidon say that. Yeah, he's so tremendous.

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I mean, there hasn't been any chinks in the armor

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from what I've seen, no doubt about it. Guys. The

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Four Horsemen are back to unite with a new generation

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of illusionists. Now you see me, Now you don't. He's

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of tickets to an advanced screening on November tenth that

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make Aplex Valley Fair. Tune in at eight thirty am

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on Bryson Bonuca for a chance to win a four

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pack of tickets. That's right, let's go to break, don't

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go anywhere. Breton Day, CEO of Odeon Men's were coming

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up next. We're gonna talk some inshow id er knowledge

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you can't get anywhere else. This is Cougar's Sports on

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what A three nine ninety eight point three Yes,