Speaker 1: It's interesting how what winning can do, right. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's awesome stuff. I absolutely love.
Speaker 2: It winning, and I think it almost Sheppak kind of
Speaker 2: speaks to a narrative you were talking about in the
Speaker 2: last segment, which is, I mean, fans just want people
Speaker 2: to spend money, right, But that's almost their defense mechanism
Speaker 2: when the team's not winning. If the team's winning and
Speaker 2: the team's cheap, who the hell cares how much they're spending.
Speaker 2: It's just about winning. And when you're not winning, fans
Speaker 2: want to instantly pivot to the easiest target, which is
Speaker 2: while they're not spending money.
Speaker 1: Well, you're right, one hundred percent. It does matter for
Speaker 1: the future because people feel like, you want my hard
Speaker 1: earned dollar, You're going to raise my prices. It's going
Speaker 1: to cost a lot to park around there. You know
Speaker 1: how much it costs to eat and drink inside a
Speaker 1: ballpark or a stadium whatever. Where is the give back.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when I when my kids were young,
Speaker 1: all my boys wanted to play hockey, and I said, okay,
Speaker 1: it can be an expensive sport. Every sport can be.
Speaker 1: I said, okay, give back. So I literally had a
Speaker 1: meeting with each one of them, and I said, I
Speaker 1: expect something in return from you, and especially since two
Speaker 1: of them played travel, I said, if you're not practicing,
Speaker 1: if I don't see you working at it, then and
Speaker 1: you should want to work at it because it's it's
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be a passion of yours, then don't
Speaker 1: expect me to give the financial buy it. You want
Speaker 1: to buy in from me. I want the passion from you,
Speaker 1: and I don't want fake passion. If you don't want to,
Speaker 1: if you don't enjoy prepping for it, then don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. It's I'm not going to hold it against you,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to spend the money. So one
Speaker 1: of my sons all summer long didn't do anything to
Speaker 1: do anything to improve his his hockey skills, didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: Passion comes around hockey sign up and he's like that,
Speaker 1: it's about time to sign up for hockey. I said,
Speaker 1: you're not playing. What do you mean I'm not playing?
Speaker 1: I said, I said to him, I told you, I
Speaker 1: told you this after the season. You want the financial
Speaker 1: buy in from me with your two brothers, I want
Speaker 1: some type of commitment from you. I didn't see it
Speaker 1: and you have to admit that. Well, you're right, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're done. That's how fans feel about athletics. You want
Speaker 1: me to buy in. I'm paying forty bucks to park,
Speaker 1: I'm paying whatever it is to cost to go to
Speaker 1: a game. I'm spending a ton of money eating and drinking.
Speaker 1: Where's the buy in from? Where's the give back on
Speaker 1: your part? So I get it. That's fine. You're one
Speaker 1: hundred percent right. When a team's not winning, that's what
Speaker 1: they look at. When a team is winning, they don't care.
Speaker 1: The only thing I would say is when a team
Speaker 1: is winning and you don't care and you don't see
Speaker 1: the financial buy in, you got to be careful because
Speaker 1: that will affect you the following year and the year
Speaker 1: after and the year after that. That's what keeps you.
Speaker 1: That financial commitment in the right places, that's what keeps
Speaker 1: you competitive. We saw it firsthand with the Red Wings.
Speaker 1: The Red Wings didn't say I'm going to go out
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna spend money on Brett Hall when Luke
Speaker 1: Roboti and Domino Kashik and the like and then say,
Speaker 1: all right, well we had our run, we had a
Speaker 1: nice championship, and now we're done spending money. No, they
Speaker 1: continue to spend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is, right, I mean, if nothing else,
Speaker 2: and I like what you said about it's got to
Speaker 2: be in the right places. But if nothing else, spending
Speaker 2: money as an indicator that the franchise is actively making
Speaker 2: moves to try to win, absolutely in most cases.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, and spending money doesn't have to be on
Speaker 1: free agents, by the way, correct, it can be on
Speaker 1: Like you think that the Red Wings are committed to winning.
Speaker 1: They have locked up Dylan Larkin or it's Cider Lucas Raymond,
Speaker 1: two longer term deals, right, yep. So by looking at
Speaker 1: that alex to brink it, by seeing all that, you
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, this is a team that cares. They care.
Speaker 1: They go out and get Tarasenko, they care about me,
Speaker 1: they care about winning.
Speaker 2: They want to keep those guys your long term. They
Speaker 2: have a vision, they want to build around them. It's
Speaker 2: the same as the Lions bringing back Penney Sewell and
Speaker 2: Broy Zara geoff the going rate, right, and you.
Speaker 1: Know they're gonna pay Aiden Hutchinson absolutely, And by the way,
Speaker 1: they signed Taylor Decker. That shouldn't go unnoticed. All those things, right,
Speaker 1: I don't want the Tigers to go out and sign
Speaker 1: Danny Jansen, who will be a free agent catcher and
Speaker 1: is twenty nine years old, and I think would be
Speaker 1: a nice fit here. But I don't want them to
Speaker 1: go out and get him just for the sake of
Speaker 1: getting him and saying, look, I just spent money. Now,
Speaker 1: if you go out and get him for three and
Speaker 1: a half million dollars, I'd say, good for you. But
Speaker 1: I don't want you spending seven million dollars on James
Speaker 1: McCann when James McCann is going to be thirty five
Speaker 1: years old, coming off a season where he wasn't very good,
Speaker 1: and coming off a backup season. He's only going to
Speaker 1: play the role as a backup anyway. No, that's not
Speaker 1: financially responsible. I don't want that. I hope they don't,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they will. I want to spend
Speaker 1: in the right place that gives you a long term solution.
Speaker 1: So the obvious answer to a lot of people would be,
Speaker 1: let's go get Jack Flaherty. Let's make sure we resign him. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a possibility. I could see that although he's in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, he's back home. He's with the Dodgers who
Speaker 1: consistently win, you can understand why you'd want to stay
Speaker 1: there too. Money doesn't cure at all. It might make
Speaker 1: you feel good for a moment, but then, and we've
Speaker 1: had this topic before see Ben Gordon, see Charlie Villanueva right,
Speaker 1: see a Croup. See certain guys who you spent money
Speaker 1: on or offered money to Juan Gonzales and said, just
Speaker 1: didn't work out.
Speaker 2: Do I have to do I have to see that
Speaker 2: Do I have to remember that ship? Do I have
Speaker 2: to really go down memory lane?
Speaker 1: You know what, It doesn't even have to be that
Speaker 1: long ago. You can just hovey your bias. Okay, there
Speaker 1: it is, and that hurts too,