WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:15.080 Welcome to the Marvel Lions Podcast, where we cover anything 2 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:17.280 and everything to do with the Marvel universe and the comics, 3 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:19.399 TV and movies. We go from er six one six 4 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:21.480 of the Mojo verse of the TVA in order to 5 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:22.839 bring Marvel UIs right to you. 6 00:00:23.320 --> 00:00:24.519 I'm the Man Without Fear. 7 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:30.879 Chris, I'm the Nerd with mouth David Alliance ASMBO volume 8 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:36.439 three hundred and nine, and we are at the end 9 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:40.000 of season two of X Men ninety seven, so we 10 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:43.840 wrapped up the season and we're that is what the 11 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:47.560 show is dedicated to. News is basically the rumor mil 12 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:51.560 goan amuck because at time recording it is Thursday night 13 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:56.079 is the eve of the Big D twenty three presentation, 14 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:59.159 and we'll have some more information about that and where 15 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:01.039 to our involvement is with that. 16 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:03.439 But how has been your week, David? 17 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:07.079 My week has been good, busy but good. This is 18 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:09.200 the last. 19 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:13.120 Full week we have before students return for us, so 20 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:16.480 it's it's been just getting all ducks in a row 21 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:20.439 and me enjoying my last little bit of being able 22 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:23.200 to go get my coffee in peace because the Starbucks 23 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:25.000 that I go to is half a mile away from 24 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:28.079 the school and at seventh in the morning it is 25 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:29.239 filled with students. 26 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:33.079 Yes, I said, you're you're a week behind me. This 27 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:37.680 week we started. We had our big ribbon cutting Sammary 28 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:39.519 for the new building, which was great. 29 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:42.959 Had to give a speech, which you know, I'm not 30 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:43.719 one to give. 31 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:48.000 Speeches us off the cuff, but it was good. It 32 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:50.239 was a big moment for turning around, as I said 33 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:53.400 off off off air, turning around a new building that 34 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:57.560 four weeks ago we pulled off a miracle with boxes, 35 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:00.560 no furniture and things like that. Everything's all said beautiful, 36 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.439 very blessed at that point that having the kids back 37 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:06.239 in the building always brings you some big smiles and 38 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.439 they're they're very happy to be in a new building. 39 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:13.080 So so yeah, school was officially begun for me. And uh, 40 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:18.599 I'm very tired. So it's it's been it's been a 41 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:22.159 long time coming. So we got Mamamma in the chat. 42 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:25.120 Enjoyed the finale of X season two, the end credits 43 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:28.639 scene when a certain character finally showed up. I was like, yes, okay, 44 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:31.879 all right, we we we definitely David. 45 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:33.960 And I have some thoughts on this. I'm not sure where. 46 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:38.520 He's fully stands on it. I don't know if you know. 47 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:42.039 I'll reserve my thoughts. I will reserve my thoughts. But 48 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:44.639 I am very happy that you enjoyed it and are 49 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:48.039 excited about what is coming. But I definitely have some 50 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:52.840 thoughts and some possible concerns. 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We want to thank them for being 130 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:50.839 an official. 131 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:59.680 Sponsor Okay, so we've got episode nine, finale of season two. 132 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.800 You know, we've we've got uh Moamba in the chat, 133 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:09.399 saying that highly was definitely enjoyed it looking forward to it, 134 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:13.040 you know, non spoiler thoughts over a breakdown, What were 135 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:17.480 your you know, after watching it, what were your thoughts? 136 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:22.600 I thought that this episode had some some good moments. 137 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:28.439 This episode continued to solidify for me that Rogue and 138 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.839 Nightcrawler are two of the best characters of this season 139 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.720 in touch of in terms of just you know, being 140 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:39.879 able to be relatable and pull out those emotional beats. 141 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:44.920 But I feel like they very much missed what could 142 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:46.680 have been an alleyup of a landing. 143 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:52.040 Yeah, it's it was. 144 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:55.800 I agree with you fully that it had some great 145 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:59.839 action beats. Certain characters had, as you like to say, 146 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:04.480 through through some hand through some sticks. But again, this 147 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:06.759 we knew the way they built up this type of 148 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:09.680 the previous it was going to be the battle between 149 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:14.759 you know, X Men slash X Corps and the team 150 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:18.160 up of X Force and X Factor to take down Gambit. 151 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:21.800 We've said it before on. 152 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:24.160 This you know this this is a show that even 153 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.560 last year, they do not let things just lie they 154 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:35.279 go at a breakneck pace, and upon watching the season finale, 155 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:36.879 I kind of wish. 156 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:39.879 Last week was the season finale. I think that would 157 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:40.200 have been. 158 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:43.480 I think that would have been a much better kind 159 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:48.159 of you know what's going to happen anticipation for next season. 160 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:49.919 At that point you can still have this fine. 161 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:51.960 I'm not saying I would do it the same exact way, 162 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.519 for like, just take the season finale and put it 163 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:58.720 as a season opener. We've seen shows sometimes do that 164 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:01.879 and it doesn't as work out quite well. But I 165 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.159 think last the last episode did a much better job 166 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:08.080 as a season finale than this did. Did it Did 167 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:11.679 it bring some things to a conclusion, yes, But again 168 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:15.960 I felt I felt it was rushed. I am a 169 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:20.320 little kind of side eyeing where we're going it. You know, 170 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:23.720 last season set up a really good cliffhanger of a 171 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.679 post credit scene. This one, I'm just like, oh, okay, 172 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:32.399 that cool. They're they're they're being brought into the mix. 173 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:36.279 Not sure of the level of excitement for I'm not 174 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:38.759 sure where that's going. I don't need to, I don't 175 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.960 need everything spelled out, but I kind of last season 176 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:44.279 I felt that I had a better understanding of where 177 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.080 we could possibly go with this this one, I'm not 178 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:47.639 sure and not necessarily. 179 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:49.759 Someone can say it's a bad thing, some say that's 180 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:50.159 a good thing. 181 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:53.759 But I'm a little apprehensive about what's going to happen 182 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:56.720 in the future, just based on we can see a 183 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:00.960 clear delineation of in my opinion, where this where the 184 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:06.240 season as a whole was mostly strong, to where we're 185 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:10.159 kind of kind of sputtering at different points and things 186 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:12.240 are not necessarily gelling as well as they could. 187 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:15.279 So yeah, definitely agree. 188 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.120 So all right, so we're going to take our first 189 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:21.240 ad break before we get into the spoilers. So listeners, 190 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:23.720 if you have not seen the season finale of x 191 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:27.240 N ninety seven season two, stop here, you know, come on, 192 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:30.320 come on back. But if you're not, don't care. Well 193 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:32.960 we'll spoil it in a little bit. But we're going 194 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.279 to start with the the ad breaks that the listeners. 195 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:37.360 These ads help keep the lights on the gig Ultimate 196 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.279 Alliance Network. We don't get to choose what ads come on. 197 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:40.120 It could be a bit loud. 198 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:41.879 Give you that three count before they come on three 199 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:47.080 two one. We'll be right back and we are back. 200 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:50.360 Well, I forgot to do one quick network thing before 201 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.120 we break down the episode tomorrow night, or if you're 202 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:59.360 listening to this on audio on Friday morning tonight at 203 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:03.679 the I will be joining right now the geek Verse 204 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:07.399 crew as we break down live reactions to the D 205 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:11.240 twenty three panel that will go live on the geek 206 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:14.080 First podcast YouTube channel at ten pm Eastern Standard time 207 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:17.639 seven pm Pacific Standard time, just breaking. You know, we'll 208 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:21.320 be seeing that panel all the updates at that point, 209 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:26.600 and we're obviously waiting for the Marvel Studios portion of it, 210 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:29.000 which we are predicting to be more towards the end, 211 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:32.639 but you know, we'll react live at this point with it. David, 212 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:35.120 you r TV to be determined whether you will be 213 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:37.200 making a portion of it or not. You do have 214 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:39.639 some plans at that point, but it will be great 215 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:41.240 if you can even come on for a portion of it. 216 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.639 But we totally understand you have a life outside of 217 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:44.399 this podcast. 218 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:51.159 I've got some family plans going on. But just depending 219 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.720 on how the ships fall and how timing is, there 220 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:56.399 is a chance that I could make this that. I'm 221 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:59.679 very excited nonetheless, at least to hear you guys talk 222 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:03.440 about the exciting new things that are hopefully coming out 223 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:04.279 of D twenty three. 224 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.120 Yep, And regardless whether you join or not at that point, 225 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.840 you know, this is basically kind of a reaction of 226 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.159 what's going on the news. You know, we'll we'll have 227 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:15.919 a proper Marvel Alliance episode depending on what news does 228 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:19.080 drop next week, depending on how big the news is. 229 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:22.279 So rumor mill is to be believed, could be some 230 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:25.080 significant things coming there, but we will have to u 231 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:26.399 We'll have to see about that. 232 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.799 So but yeah, check it out Friday night. 233 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:32.480 This Friday night, ten pm Eastern Standard time, seven pm 234 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:35.000 Pacific Stander time in the geek First podcast YouTube channel 235 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:40.279 for our next crossover for the D twenty three keynote panel. 236 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:43.919 All right, so episode nine, Survival of the Fittest, let's 237 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.720 start breaking this episode down. So the episode opens with 238 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.480 Cable explaining his destiny to Val Cooper, an X factor 239 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:55.039 that he is tracking the celestial energy signature that Apocalypse's 240 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:57.519 power gives off, and he tells them that in order 241 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:01.240 to end Apocalypse, Gambit must die. I have thought at 242 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:06.120 that moment that in order to end Apocalypse, they have 243 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:08.039 to bring Gambit back to the nineties. 244 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:11.799 You know, you know, they've been saying it all season. 245 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:12.320 They're David. 246 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:14.559 I mean, I was thinking, I got myself a Chuggles 247 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:17.039 and we got to bring Gambit back to the nineties 248 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:21.039 or the eighties, you know, something along those lines. 249 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:23.279 But a Bishop has to be in the background at 250 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:23.720 that moment. 251 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:25.600 Yeah, or at least. 252 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:28.399 You notice say that they have to clear Apocalypse from 253 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:30.879 the nineties. The fact that the nineties was not reference 254 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:33.120 in his opening monologue, big letdown. 255 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.279 Yeah, so, but again small a little joke there, But 256 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:40.440 again it's strange bedfellows in order to you know, I 257 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:42.480 think at this point, the way Cable has gone, it's 258 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:46.320 just like you can't honestly believe he's going to, you know, 259 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.200 work this out for X factors thing, but he's not 260 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:52.840 hiding that he's going to kill Gambit. We get back 261 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:57.080 to X Corps excuse me, not xcor but we go 262 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.840 to Rogue, Beast and Nightcrawler exploring the death of the 263 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.200 to find Ship, the former base of Apocalypse that we 264 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:06.840 saw back during you know, back in the past with 265 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:12.039 a saber before he became Apocalypse. Beast wakes up Ship 266 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:15.679 and Rogue asked how they can stop Apocalypse. Ship explains 267 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.600 that defeating him will require a celestial power, and that 268 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:22.320 they must enter the same shrine that created him. Ship 269 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.240 also warns that no one enters the shrine without paying 270 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.399 a price, and the shrine emerges, letting out a way 271 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.039 of cosmic energy, and Rogue fights through it and enters 272 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:34.799 it and knowing that if she's able to get what 273 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:37.720 she wants, it comes with a price. So I'm not 274 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:40.240 surprised at any of that. It was cool in the 275 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:42.960 sense of they went back to ship. It's interesting, like 276 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:45.519 how did ship crash land there? You know, I want 277 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:47.039 to hear that maybe a little bit of that story, 278 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:51.639 but it's interesting where you know, you got the the 279 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:56.360 scientists with beasts there, Nightcrawler there for the kind of 280 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:59.360 religious moral support, and then Rogue, who's saying. 281 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.840 Like I want to say, the love of my life. 282 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:06.360 Yeah, I was getting very much Avengers a soul for 283 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:10.039 a soul vibes when they were doing this whole you 284 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:12.399 know it's going to pay a price. 285 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:13.519 Yeah. 286 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.840 So heading back to X Corps, alarm sound as Gambit 287 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:20.159 lies unconscious, X Factor X Force arrived and Charles tries 288 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:22.799 to reason with Alcoper. She argues that the threat of 289 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.200 apocalypse must be eliminated, even if it means killing Gambit, 290 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:30.480 And so they put up their kind of EMP that 291 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:33.559 only lasts for so long around like the MPU protection 292 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:37.919 whatever shield they want around X Core. Havoc starts attacking 293 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:41.840 objects as you mean, Havoc actually objects to attacking the 294 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:45.360 X men. The Valcouper orders Cable to get them past 295 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.919 the e MP field, breaching that let's Cyclops and g 296 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.080 know that Cable is working with them, and they prepare 297 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:53.399 to face off with their son. Now, it was interesting 298 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:58.200 that we saw human piloted sentinels are unleashed, So this 299 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.480 is a human pilot Sentinels were big thing when Posthouse 300 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:08.200 of m representing the O N E so co opting sentinels. 301 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:10.759 Instead of the sentinels being robots, they were piloted by 302 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:15.039 human beings. Polaris and Bishops stand as the last line 303 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:19.320 of defense for Gambit. As Charles Seycheli's searches searches Rope 304 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:21.840 but can't find her, saying he she has gone to 305 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:27.279 a realm beyond Threebra's reach. So Havoc is now objecting 306 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:29.639 to the idea of this mission as a whole, knowing 307 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:33.879 who Cable and what he wants to do do you 308 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.440 see at this point, you know, he's doing this, but 309 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:39.320 do you see basically if Havoc's even gonna stay on 310 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:42.080 or others are going to stay on, because I don't 311 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:45.200 sense that X Factor's totally on board with this. 312 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.360 Yeah, you get the feeling that they don't agree with 313 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:52.519 the full scope of this mission, but they do still 314 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.159 go along with it, because we see later as Havoc 315 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:59.279 and Jubilee are having the dogfight with the Jets. I 316 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:03.399 mean he he still continues with the mission, but yeah, 317 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:06.160 he he is very hesitant at this point. I think 318 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:10.839 knowing the parameters of what Cable has intent is making 319 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:12.839 him definitely very uncomfortable. 320 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:13.839 Yeah. 321 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:16.599 So we head back to Rogue, waking up surrounded by 322 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:20.759 white light to face the celestial known as Isan. We've 323 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:24.160 seen Eson pipea you know, come through at different points. 324 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.079 Uh. He he takes the gem containing. 325 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:32.720 The piece of apocalypse power from her, and so that 326 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:36.279 was a completely useless piece of a storyline, you know. Yeah, 327 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:38.960 wondering when when when Gambit put it in her nothing 328 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:41.680 happened at that point, and then this lester said no, 329 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:44.359 this ain't here as Bath, and it's just like, so, 330 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:47.119 what was the point of that we didn't see anything 331 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:50.079 with that, and that is this is I'm sorry, that's 332 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:52.279 bad writing. Is Yeah, I'm not gonna call it any 333 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:54.119 kind of plot or anything. No, it's bad writing when 334 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:57.279 you put something in there that we didn't We got 335 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:00.039 it got built up by seeing what. 336 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:02.680 I think it was. 337 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.079 External had what was put out to be with this, 338 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:10.839 this crystal of power, and so we. 339 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:11.240 Didn't see it. 340 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:13.640 Then we didn't see it now because I got taken away. 341 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:16.039 So what was the point again of that? 342 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:18.720 Yeah, you stabbed external. 343 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:21.319 You made this whole big thing about giving her this 344 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:23.640 power and everything else, and then the minute she shows 345 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:26.640 up to on he goes, that doesn't belong to you 346 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:30.440 and immediately rips the power from hers. It's what was 347 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:31.640 the point of having this? 348 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:35.880 Yeah, so that's that's That's one of the number of 349 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:39.759 points of contention that I have with this episode. Rogued 350 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:44.119 soon explains that life only advances through apocalypse and will 351 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:46.319 benefit and will benefit from. 352 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:46.960 The loss of Gambit. 353 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.200 Rogue defies then and tries to attack him, but you 354 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.680 can't even get close to him because again, it's a 355 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:57.440 big celestial that it's a being of cosmic power. Surprise, 356 00:18:57.480 --> 00:18:59.720 Barber Willing us to fight. Eyson offers her the opportunity 357 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:02.920 to sack Comprise her life to save his. Rogue easily 358 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:07.279 accepts that, and Eson gives her a very huge upgrading 359 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:12.119 cosmic power. So Beast and Nightcrawler wait outside the shrine 360 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:17.240 before Rogue emerges, now wearing this cosmic outfit that glowing 361 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:20.160 like stars. It appears that the power Eson gave her 362 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:24.000 was cosmic engine known as the Star Brand, though it 363 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:25.599 was very much because I was looking at this that's 364 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:28.559 very Starbrand like, and yes it's in the comics. This 365 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:31.640 power has been wielded by many characters, though Rogue is 366 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.160 not one of them. It's possible that this is not 367 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:37.200 actually the power at play, but with the emblem looking 368 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:40.519 a bit differently from the typical Star Brand and the comics, 369 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:42.720 but it's certainly very reminiscent, so it may be a 370 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:44.119 tip of the hat, if you know, you know, they 371 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:46.519 didn't want to call it out, but you know, I 372 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:49.440 caught on to it, so I appreciate the wink and 373 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.200 the nudge and the easter egg there. So. As Rogue leaves, 374 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:55.240 Beast notices that Nightcrawler is troubled. When he asks him 375 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:58.359 about it, Nightcrawler points out that the ship warned them 376 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.000 that no one leaves the shrine with paying a price. 377 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:05.240 So what did you think of her upgrade? 378 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:11.240 I thought, cosmetically, it looked cool. The glow and everything 379 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.680 looked awesome, and even when she begins to use the power, 380 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:17.640 so I'm like, all right, this is cool. But again, 381 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:20.799 the entire time, I was thinking to myself, you know, 382 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:25.319 going back to the power that they took from the 383 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:29.799 X turn on, like why couldn't that just get Why 384 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:34.079 couldn't you have a way to upgrade that existing thing 385 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:36.799 that you have already plot device that you've already put 386 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:39.240 in motion wide destroy that and then bringing in a 387 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:40.640 whole another plot device. 388 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:41.599 Yeah. 389 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:45.319 So, so back at X Corps, X Factor gets inside 390 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:47.559 the tower, a storm forge and some of the others 391 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:51.640 deal with sentinels outside. Cable also gets inside by blasting 392 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:54.319 his way through the roof, eventually reaching Cyclops and Gene. 393 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:56.519 They tried to reason where thereir somebody refuses in the 394 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:00.640 fight ensues, which is a pretty awesome kind of family fight. 395 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:03.359 I don't know if it's at this moment or. 396 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:09.400 Later on when he's fighting them and Cables and vows like, hey, 397 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:12.079 you get what's going on you doing anything with this? 398 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:14.119 This is he said? 399 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.160 What did he say? What was it up? Have you 400 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:20.839 seen the way my parents? Have you seen my parents 401 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:22.440