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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from the dining room table at East

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<v Speaker 1>Barbary Lane. Welcome to a new episode of Full Circle

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<v Speaker 1>the Podcast. A visit to our home where we squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>a few headlines through our decidedly queer lens and see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. This episode is brought to you once again

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<v Speaker 1>by Decanted Jugwine and my return to the mic after

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<v Speaker 1>a three month hiatus. Oh my goodness, and four months

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<v Speaker 1>without a cigarette. I have missed being here. I am

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<v Speaker 1>your host Charles Tyson Junior, and I'm your host Martha Madrigal.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Full Circle Table. I should say welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Full Circle Table.

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<v Speaker 2>At least for me, I was gonna say, I've been here.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been holding it down. Yeah, there's no question you

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<v Speaker 1>have been holding things. So much has happened. We last

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<v Speaker 1>recorded right at the end of August. About two weeks later,

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<v Speaker 1>I left my job. Yeah, I was invited to leave

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<v Speaker 1>my job, which is a whole story. Don't work for

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<v Speaker 1>CIS people. If you happen to be trans it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>often does not end well, especially when they're trumpers. That part, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so tried to have that not get in the way,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet you know it always does. Yeah, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>been nesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been nesting hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I did quit smoking on July twenty fifth, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have not had a cigarette since then.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>I have had my little vape now and again, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. I don't inhale, so maybe I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>breathing much better. I'm not coughing, I'm not hacking. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not you know. So you know I love that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to say it's better. It is better. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't stink up the house.

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<v Speaker 2>And your energy level has improved.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, you well, not working helps too. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been baking. You've been baking in like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of bread, painting and painting and well every project

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<v Speaker 1>that I mean, the story of us moving into this

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<v Speaker 1>house was interesting. And you know, we had we got

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<v Speaker 1>our hardwood floors refinished and thank god, before we moved

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<v Speaker 1>anything in, and then we were trying to paint everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I called a moving company, they had had

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<v Speaker 1>a cancelation. And I want to say I called in

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<v Speaker 1>December and it was like January twenty first or June right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, well, June right. So we

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<v Speaker 1>scurried to get ready and to finish packing and to

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<v Speaker 1>get you know, and to do all that, and we

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<v Speaker 1>had to pivot and we did not get to finish painting.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had rooms in various stages of finished. Truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them I've slowly gotten done. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been touched. So I'm touching them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I am good touch. I'm finishing. I started in the

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<v Speaker 1>laundry room because that's right there at the back door.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'm working my way through. The kitchen is looking good.

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<v Speaker 1>The kitchen, I've been cleaning in the basement to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get things organized so I know where stuff is.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I'm nesting. I've had a couple of people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of contacted me about working and I'm like, cold,

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<v Speaker 1>we tuk in January, maybe right February. But it's been good.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's been and if one more person says you

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<v Speaker 1>look so arrested, I'm like, how stressed did I look?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't realize I was. I mean, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>loved my job.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you did, and you took it very seriously and

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<v Speaker 2>you were do it hard at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I did. I really did. Have you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>run in with one person and you know, I pushed

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<v Speaker 1>my luck there for almost three years. Just get I

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<v Speaker 1>don't keep my mouth shut and I don't compromise, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a very challenging environment where it was impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to do the job exactly correctly. And you cannot cut

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<v Speaker 1>a corner and betrayance. So I will say that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you cannot cut a corner and betran We.

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<v Speaker 1>There are different rules, I promise you. So it is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, right, and so much has been happening,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was part of it. Part of it was

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<v Speaker 1>losing the job and just kind of figuring all that

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<v Speaker 1>out and getting my feet back under me a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't devastating. I kind of was like, well, what's next, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay. The hard part and the ego stroking

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<v Speaker 1>part has been the clients that I miss so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And pretty much every one of them has reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to me in one way or another, and they come

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<v Speaker 1>to our monthly dinners or they join us on our

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday evening calls, and so I am still in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with them. It's just, you know, we were doing really

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<v Speaker 1>good work together and that hurts. Yeah, that hurts, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not going that way now.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way the universe worked, like right as you

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<v Speaker 2>were leaving your job, you received not one, but two awards.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, that happened in rapid succession. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>on October Thursday, Joey Pirella and I were honored Friend

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<v Speaker 1>of the Pod by Garden State Equality. Joey and I

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<v Speaker 1>do the monthly spaghetti dinners together, and Garden State Equality

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<v Speaker 1>gave us a Inequality and Motion Award, as I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>community Partners, activists whatever, specifically for the dinners. And then

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<v Speaker 1>a week later, so October tenth, I believe, Yeah, Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>Gay News named Elizabeth and I as two of the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine most influential leaders in the LGBT community.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe they referred to as a trans rites warrior.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, yes, that's what the plaque says. I got

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<v Speaker 2>two plaques in October.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The timing was interesting because I knew about the

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<v Speaker 1>PGN one and then I got the text about the

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<v Speaker 1>Garden State Equality one, and I was like, oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite moment was when I was getting ready and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, now, wait, which award is.

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<v Speaker 1>This that you're getting today? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>It was? It was fun. It was good. It was

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's humbling and gratifying and it was lovely,

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<v Speaker 1>really truly. There were you know, two ceremonies and they

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<v Speaker 1>were both really nice and I'm very grateful. Yeah and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the juxtaposition of those things happening pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, within a couple of weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what's helped you. It's you never

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<v Speaker 2>had to have that moment where you didn't know who

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<v Speaker 2>you were.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I don't forget that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the award from PGN was really, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe centered around we. You know, we picked up the

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<v Speaker 1>support group that Elizabeth and I facilitate and moved it basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we started our own situation and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our active membership moved right along with us. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was important and that work continues. And then the dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was allowed, you know, was under the auspices

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<v Speaker 1>of my employer because they provided the space. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's mine. And what did I have ten days if

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<v Speaker 1>that to find a new location let people know, and

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<v Speaker 1>we did. We did not skip a month if I

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<v Speaker 1>had to cook spaghetti here and have everyone here at

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<v Speaker 1>the house. I would have just to not have a gap.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea how the hell that would have worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been tight. But you know, we found

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<v Speaker 1>a new location right in Collins. Would it's even more

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<v Speaker 1>convenient than anything else we've ever had because it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the train is right there, so it's accessible to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more people. We've had record crowds. We had fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five people show up for the dinner again with a

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<v Speaker 1>week's notice or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the humorous part for me was when your your

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<v Speaker 2>job was like, but what are we going to do

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<v Speaker 2>about the dinner? And you like, who we?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is this we? There is no we anymore. You

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<v Speaker 1>just took my bad work. Yeah, and and that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>just that. There's so much more I could say, but

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<v Speaker 1>I won't. You know, it's been it's been interesting. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been enough has gotten back to me that you know, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're scrambling a lot and good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when it takes eight people to do the job

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<v Speaker 2>of one person and they only.

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<v Speaker 1>Have two, it's it's beyond that. I mean, my colleagues,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard from all of the colleagues that I worked

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<v Speaker 1>closely with with a lot of support, and that's also

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<v Speaker 1>been amazing. So I again, it's it's really a situation

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<v Speaker 1>of something more and different is happening and com and

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<v Speaker 1>it's what's next, indeed, And so the next logical thing

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<v Speaker 1>was let's make room for that, because you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's weighed heavily on me that this house is still

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<v Speaker 1>not organized the way I need it to be organized.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're still not there, right and well, the contents

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<v Speaker 1>of my office are still sitting in a pile in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room, and I don't I need to know

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<v Speaker 1>where my stuff is and I need to put away.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're getting there and put what you want

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<v Speaker 1>room by room and making lots of donations in the

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<v Speaker 1>process and having some pretty big bulk trash day. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I installed a toilet upstairs. I haven't just been you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been leaning into the Martha of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yeah right, the butcher Martha of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Martha. Yeah yeah, Well because the toilet started

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<v Speaker 1>leaking upstairs and that's not good. Yeah, so we stopped

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<v Speaker 1>and did that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you also made it. And this is the part

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<v Speaker 2>I love you. You rolled up your sleeves and put

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<v Speaker 2>on your your your butcher girl draws and and and

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<v Speaker 2>went to fix the toilet, but you made sure that

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<v Speaker 2>the new toilet was cute.

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<v Speaker 1>It is cute.

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<v Speaker 2>The dichotomy is the important thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that they make things now that they just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't used to make, right. And one of them is

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<v Speaker 1>this toilet that I bought because the upstairs bathroom is

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<v Speaker 1>shall we say, compact, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially if you're tall.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are tall, you were somewhat inclined to sit

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<v Speaker 1>side saddle because your knees hit the wall in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you.

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<v Speaker 2>A picture of you're sitting there with your legs crossed

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<v Speaker 2>and an umbrella.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to wonder, like how do you fix that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like do you have to move the whole

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<v Speaker 1>arrangement in the floor and get a corner toilet? Like

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<v Speaker 1>how do you fix that? And now they make these

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<v Speaker 1>smaller compact toilets that are only like twenty four inches

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<v Speaker 1>from the wall, and it solved the problem, yep. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little bit more money, but not hideously so.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I think it was two hundred instead

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<v Speaker 1>of one hundred for the really cheap one, but.

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<v Speaker 3>A fun size toilet, it's yeah, but it does the job.

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<v Speaker 1>Completely and it has the little you know, dual flush

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a water savor and all that, and it's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>It is cute. It matches the cute little sink that

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<v Speaker 1>I put up there last year. Now I'm loving it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a fun day too because I had Tory

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<v Speaker 1>over here, a trans lesbian with a tool belt, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we did that together, the sink, and we did the

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<v Speaker 2>And then in terms of the show, like, since you've

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's a section about black fandom among the Golden Girls.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, I've been just to keep our

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly like you know the fact you just came along.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, We've got one hundred and fifty plus episodes for

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<v Speaker 2>you to check out. And you know, the catalog is formidable.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, things have been happening so rapid fire,

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and we can ease our way into it with

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<v Speaker 1>We are, Yeah, yeah, we are because we have a

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, well, that ain't even news no more.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither is that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Some of the trash took itself out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to you got to read, you know, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep reading and find out what the follow up is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know I just read just we were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing we had to shut down over, which

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<v Speaker 1>was that, you know, renewing the I guess subsidies, extra

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<v Speaker 1>subsidies for Obamacare. Guess what he just did. He's doing

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<v Speaker 1>He's renewing them for two years. They have no plan, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They never had a plan. They never had a health

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<v Speaker 1>And frankly, Obamacare is their plan because he stole from

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<v Speaker 1>the Heritage Foundation. So boo. But yeah, so now we're

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<v Speaker 1>after all of that who struck what, you know, the elections,

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<v Speaker 1>waning popularity, right because damn, damn numbers are in the

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<v Speaker 2>And those is officially done.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And you know what, I hope that gets

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<v Speaker 1>because it was initially COVID money. Well, they were using

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<v Speaker 1>were having groundbreaking results. But it all basically has gone

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<v Speaker 1>why because doge right? Yeah, there was no government efficiency

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<v Speaker 1>the destruction that they wrought. And I do I hope

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<v Speaker 1>they all wind up on charge charges. I hope they

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<v Speaker 1>And they only did it so billionaires could strip us

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<v Speaker 2>Money, right, because it's not like, you know, uh, that

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<v Speaker 2>And then again not even that because no one got paid.

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get there. The Republicans had their ass handed to

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<v Speaker 1>it keeps happening, you know. And that's not to say

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<v Speaker 1>we don't you know, we've got to roll our sleeves

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<v Speaker 1>up as a nation. I literally just did, and you did.

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<v Speaker 1>No one said the patriarchy was going to die quietly,

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<v Speaker 1>no one. You know, we've talked about the last gasps

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how many times have I said, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>start a war? Tell a white man? No.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked at p Flag last night about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>much better understanding of us you know, have been now

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<v Speaker 1>some ways they've really done a lot of educating. Not

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose, god knows, because they've been doing nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>truth actually is, probably wouldn't have done that without them. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>unintended consequences, right can be positive, It's true. Yeah, silver linings,

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<v Speaker 1>silver linings. So we have a long list of folks

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<v Speaker 2>And we can't even go into depth. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well we're going to bang through it. Giorgio Armani,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety one years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was back in early September.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Polly Holiday, Polly Holiday from Alice. Yeah, most famously as

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<v Speaker 2>was Rose's friend sister cousin. Okay, that relationship was never

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<v Speaker 1>Polly Holiday, Rest in peace. Robert Redford, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Redford passed away, Hollywood Royalty.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely absolutely, but you know, a long life that we

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate because he was what eighty nine, eighty nine years

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<v Speaker 2>Still back in September, Charlie Kirk is dead, uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>She died in Cuba. Yeah, as seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she was Jane Goodall, Jane Goodall passed away, who

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the foremost authority on Primates, and she actually had

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<v Speaker 2>but you know in the finale, the top three, like

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<v Speaker 2>whoever they impersonated, if they're still around, they do a

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<v Speaker 2>So Jane Goodall did a message, so you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>got to have a moment in the zeitgeist again, which was.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, Major Griffin Gracie. Yeah, just before her seventy ninth birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, and that's the part again, trans women

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<v Speaker 1>should all get seventy nine years, We should get ninety years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and so we celebrate a life lived in service.

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth, nineteen forty six. So she died about a

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the transagenda, to die of old age exactly, exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>for Fox's sake.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a pioneer. She was one of the folks

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<v Speaker 1>from Stonewall. She was there and a life of service

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so rest in power, indeed, manager Mama, from what

422
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<v Speaker 1>I to a lot of folks. Yeah, D'Angelo, Yeah.

423
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<v Speaker 2>We lost DeAngelo. He was fifty one. He passed away

424
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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of October. He lost his battle with cancer.

425
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<v Speaker 2>D'Angelo was one of our contemporary musical geniuses, one of

426
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<v Speaker 2>the founders of the neo soul movement. He wouldn't have

427
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<v Speaker 2>said that, but it has. He has been attributed with

428
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<v Speaker 2>that moniker. His first two albums are considered to be

429
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<v Speaker 2>two of the best R and B albums ever to

430
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<v Speaker 2>grace the planet.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah Said fifty one, Yeah Too Young Actually Hurt Me?

432
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 2>And Questlove has recently confirmed that there's going to be

433
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<v Speaker 2>a posthumous album coming up. He and Dangelo worked together

434
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 2>very closely in the past, especially for his iconic Voodoo album,

435
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm interested in seeing that when it comes out.

436
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Diane Keaton, Diane Keaton, this one made me so sad.

437
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:29.519
<v Speaker 1>Seventy nine, which I'm sorry, but y'all, seventy nine is

438
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:38.039
<v Speaker 1>yea iconic, iconic Yeah, for decades, I've just I've loved

439
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:43.400
<v Speaker 1>her work. Same Annie Hall and The Godfather And.

440
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you may not made me, but you you got

441
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>me to watch any Hall a few weeks ago, just

442
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 2>because you were thinking about her and I hadn't seen

443
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:58.079
<v Speaker 2>it yet, so and you know, I, despite my other feelings,

444
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:00.279
<v Speaker 2>all the rest of my feelings about what he allen.

445
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate him as a filmmaker for the most part,

446
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:08.119
<v Speaker 2>especially his earlier work, And I had not seen any

447
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Hall and I understand.

448
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 1>How, okay she wanted an Oscar.

449
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I understand how Diane Keaton's performance in that film

450
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.440
<v Speaker 2>launched her like I get it. I totally get it.

451
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 1>And The Family Stone, which I adore, and we're going

452
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to talk about yes, speaking of Alfred.

453
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, so The Family Stone is one of your

454
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<v Speaker 2>favorite Christmas movies. It has since become one of my

455
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>favorite Christmas movies. Bought a problematic white family and they're

456
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>problematic white house guests.

457
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.559
<v Speaker 1>And we've watched this Christmas every year as well to

458
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<v Speaker 1>balance it out do.

459
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>We do usually back to back there, But coming soon,

460
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<v Speaker 2>stay tuned, We're going to be having a special episode Martha,

461
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>myself and friends of the Pod. Doctor Alfred Martin will

462
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:14.480
<v Speaker 2>be returning and Kathy O'Connell will be returning to discuss

463
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 2>this film because it holds a special place in all

464
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>of our hearts for varying.

465
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Reasons, for varying reasons, and we have bearing opinions we

466
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>did about the movie, so it's gonna be a really

467
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>interesting conversation. Yes, lawd, I did watch it the night

468
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 1>that I heard that Diane Keaton had passed.

469
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I do.

470
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 1>I love that movie and I'm gonna watch it again

471
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>before we sit down and talk about it. Well, yeah,

472
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like I'm gonna have to defend it.

473
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>And I'm interested in seeing how this goes because there's

474
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<v Speaker 2>i mean, much like everything, there's black people that love

475
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 2>that movie, like myself, and there's black people that hate

476
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>that move for the same fucking reason. It's going to

477
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>be a fun conversation and nobody's wrong now.

478
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.359
<v Speaker 1>But you know what a good what a great Christmas

479
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 1>time discussion. So hey, watch The Family Stone.

480
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 2>It'll be up before Christmas.

481
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then and then listen to us talk about

482
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:27.319
<v Speaker 1>The Family Stone. June Lockhart Lassie lost in space. She

483
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:33.079
<v Speaker 1>died at one hundred, right, I mean, hey, hey, exactly,

484
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Dick Cheney's dead, uh huh. And Jelly Johnson, jelly Bean.

485
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Johnson, who was the one and only drummer.

486
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Of the time of the time. He was sixty nine.

487
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:52.319
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I always hear either Prince or Morris

488
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.759
<v Speaker 2>Day in the back of my head on Jellybean.

489
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<v Speaker 1>You've added two other names before we get to the name.

490
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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk so Udo who is that?

491
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh Udo Kir passed away. He was eighty one. He

492
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 2>passed away just a couple of days ago. He was

493
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 2>a prolific German actor who's been in so many things

494
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>in both American pop culture and world pop culture. He

495
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 2>always plays an eccentric, villainous type.

496
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>That's what it says. Yeah, he was.

497
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Openly gay, which made some of his badassory even cooler. Like,

498
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.039
<v Speaker 2>the main thing I think of him was as the uh,

499
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>the head of the vampire Council Dragonetti in Blade.

500
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 1>He was.

501
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 2>He was a cool dude, Udokir, and he.

502
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 1>Had a cool name. I just realized her. Viola Fletcher is.

503
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Viola Fletcher was the oldest survivor of the Tulsa Race massacre.

504
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>She died at one hundred eleven yep.

505
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>And the part of that that hurts me, I'm glad

506
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.599
<v Speaker 2>she she made it to one hundred and eleven, but

507
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>she was one hundred and six when the trial came

508
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.680
<v Speaker 2>up regarding reparations for the survivors and families of.

509
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.759
<v Speaker 1>The Green neighborhood of Tulsa, right of black Wall Street

510
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 1>and the Tulsa massacre.

511
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.440
<v Speaker 2>And it felt like she was holding on to see justice.

512
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 2>It does, and there was none because you know, they

513
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:36.279
<v Speaker 2>did what we knew they were going to do.

514
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>There's that. But yeah, she she was she witnessed seven. Yeah,

515
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>she was seven. So she lived to be one hundred

516
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and eleven. How about that?

517
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Talk about iconic. She saw everything, She saw everything twice right,

518
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>thank you seriously.

519
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 1>And the Philadelphia region lost arguably an icon yes, a

520
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>month at the end of October. Yeah, here a bear. Yeah,

521
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 1>gj on Wmoir since nineteen eightys on eighty four eighty one,

522
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I think early eighties, early eighties, you know, I am

523
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 1>heartened to see. He was on the air for forty

524
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 1>four years, so eight nineteen eighty one. They list his

525
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>age of seventy depending on who you talked to, and

526
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 1>that might have shaved a few years off of his age.

527
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:36.279
<v Speaker 2>But whatever a lady never tells, right it is.

528
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>It has fascinated me to just watch the region poor love.

529
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, when they did sort of an I guess

530
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 1>an ad hoc you know memorial in Rittenhouse Square, you know,

531
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of people showed up. He was beloved. Yeah, he

532
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>was a good citizen. He was. He had an encyclopedic

533
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>knowledge of rock and roll. Everyone who knew Pierre or

534
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:11.159
<v Speaker 1>met Pierre loved Pierre. We got to work with him

535
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>at the Aids Walk each year, which he m seed

536
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 1>and we stage managed. So you know, our paths have

537
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 1>crossed professionally, and they've also crossed many times in the

538
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:31.159
<v Speaker 1>gaghborhood because the man was gay as Christmas and we're

539
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 1>not talking about that, and I I'm I'm I'm really

540
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 1>only of one mind, you know, in the way that

541
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.519
<v Speaker 1>we say if you like that computer, thank Alan touring, right,

542
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, who was a gay man, and we point

543
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that out right because we have as queer people made

544
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 1>such enormous contributions to the world, and we leave that

545
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 1>heart out. And he did not, you know, talk about

546
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>his his sexuality on air. It wasn't your Maane for

547
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 1>one thing. But he was out. I mean, he was

548
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 1>out and about. He wasn't hiding, nope. And you know,

549
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I had this conversation with one of our friends at

550
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Knock recently and I said, I'm just not hearing anyone

551
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>mention it. I mean other than friends who knew him

552
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, probably hooked up with him. And are

553
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and others who have hooked up with him.

554
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's just been interesting to me that we are

555
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:45.559
<v Speaker 1>not talking about that part of his life and he was.

556
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>And the more I see them just pouring out like

557
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>they knew him, like he was their best friend. Okay,

558
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:59.639
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome, and you loved a gay man. I hope

559
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't change how you feel about him, right, because

560
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, reading some of what I've read, it's clear

561
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>to me that everyone does not know that, right obviously, Right.

562
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>There was even one article that speculated a wife. I'm like,

563
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 1>what not that I know of, But I mean if

564
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:22.280
<v Speaker 1>there was one in the bass, and I've been around

565
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 1>a long time, right, I've never heard that, m But yeah,

566
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<v Speaker 1>And the only reason I mentioned in the age thing

567
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 1>was because I remember Gosha telling me they were the

568
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>same age, and Gsha would be seventy four or so

569
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>how she lived, So that's what I meant, right, But

570
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:44.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, the records say he was born in nineteen

571
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:46.559
<v Speaker 1>fifty five and he was seventy and that that may

572
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:49.599
<v Speaker 1>well be. That's not really my point. My point is

573
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I hope that we can celebrate the fullness of the man, right.

574
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I really do. It's just that it's been sitting on

575
00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>my spirit that you know, even gay DJs are not

576
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:07.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about the fact that it's not about I mean privacy,

577
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and as far as I know, right, you know, his

578
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>family may not want that just who knows. They're not

579
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>releasing his cause of death, which being in privacy, who cares?

580
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, I couldn't be less interested in that he

581
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>died of natural causes in his sleep, right, good, right, exactly.

582
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>But you know that was the fullness of the dude,

583
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and everyone in this region. I don't think there's anyone

584
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.559
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't know that that Pierre Robert played Alice's restaurant

585
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>every Thanksgiving, every Thanksgiving, you know, the long, the nineteen

586
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:48.639
<v Speaker 1>minute version, right every Thanksgiving. And they also played at

587
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 1>one a memoir like Noon, which sometimes I caught that

588
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 1>one because I But anyway, he was iconic, it was beloved.

589
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 1>He was, you know, a really sweet, thoughtful human.

590
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:08.679
<v Speaker 2>I knew who Pierre Robert was pretty much my entire life, sure,

591
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 2>because my sister was an MMR fan. So it's just

592
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:13.760
<v Speaker 2>a name that you heard.

593
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I've seen so much written about him

594
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 1>and about his career, but just nobody's mentioning. Has it

595
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>not bothered you?

596
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean actively bothered me? No, but I did notice it,

597
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 2>well noticed I.

598
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>At this point in history, with so much vitriol in

599
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the air, people are coming together left, right and sideways

600
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 1>over someone that was beloved to all. And by the way,

601
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.679
<v Speaker 1>he was queer. Right, I'm sorry, but by the way,

602
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, because and I think part of it is

603
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:55.639
<v Speaker 1>just that that, you know, the Maga cult has brainwashed

604
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>so many people that I used to care about, who

605
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>don't talk to me anymore because at least some of

606
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>them are pouring their hearts out about Pierre Robert. Right, Yeah,

607
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to note that, Yeah, a gay

608
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.920
<v Speaker 1>man was beloved to you, so why don't you knock

609
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:16.360
<v Speaker 1>off your ship? Taking nothing away from him at all.

610
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Colder actually thought he was wonderful. I really did still

611
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.599
<v Speaker 1>love running into him. He used a chat all the time. However,

612
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the twins loved him too. He loved them. He could

613
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>fill a table with them at the Midtown three at

614
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:37.599
<v Speaker 1>three am because we'd be in the next booth with Ghosh.

615
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.400
<v Speaker 1>He would hang over the booth and chat. Yeah, you

616
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:44.280
<v Speaker 1>know he was. He was out and around.

617
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was the theory very frequently in the game, right,

618
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>That was the theory is to why there were so

619
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 2>many different ages floating around.

620
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:53.679
<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying.

621
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:55.559
<v Speaker 2>Because the twins ages stayed the same.

622
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:02.199
<v Speaker 1>They pretty much did. Yeah, legal but you know young,

623
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I I he was an icon. He was

624
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:13.679
<v Speaker 1>truly beloved and lovely and you know, chill, and yes,

625
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.360
<v Speaker 1>he was very much a hippie. You really did come

626
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>here in a ww bus and gay and gay. So

627
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll see how that comes about. But that's been it's

628
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>just been on my spirit that you know, these are

629
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.079
<v Speaker 1>the kinds of things that should unite us. We all

630
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<v Speaker 1>lost someone who was amazing and full of life and

631
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, brought us music, right, and that is so important.

632
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:48.679
<v Speaker 1>We all did, and it's a place where we could

633
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>be coming together. But I kind of want us to

634
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>tell the truth of that. You know, if you're going

635
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.280
<v Speaker 1>to keep me backed up against a motherfucking wall because

636
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm a trans woman, you're worshiping a gay man, just

637
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:09.079
<v Speaker 1>know it, fucker, just know it of us? Are none

638
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.559
<v Speaker 1>of us? That's all? Yeah, kind of kind of and

639
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:17.639
<v Speaker 1>the man was very sweet to me. Yes, always same,

640
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's take a break, Yes, and I will get off that,

641
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>so bunks get rest in power and peace. Pierre, we

642
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>loved you, you were amazing. Thank you for the smiles

643
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and all you brought to this region and all of

644
00:41:38.400 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 1>you is missed. Yes, we'll be right back, and we're back.

645
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 2>We're back.

646
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I've missed that. Hey. So election night, yeah, actually approved

647
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:15.000
<v Speaker 1>many things, including the fact that Democrats don't need to

648
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 1>abandon trans people to win. Right, quite the opposite, Actually

649
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>quite the opposite. ZOEA and Mom. Donnie won by a

650
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>lot in New York City and he is he will

651
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 1>be the next mayor of New York City, and there

652
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>was a full throated support of this community and our

653
00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>rich history in the city of New York. He included

654
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Sylvia Rivera in his u one of his campaign videos

655
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 1>campaign video, and he did so many cool campaign videos

656
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 1>around the city talking about and to and with so

657
00:42:56.320 --> 00:43:01.559
<v Speaker 1>many different kinds of people, and he won. The one

658
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:05.079
<v Speaker 1>that really stuck out to me was he like set

659
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>up his desk right at the Chelsea Piers and talked

660
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 1>about the trans community and Sylvia Rivera and her support,

661
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 1>her active support of her community, and how the community

662
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>did not support her back exactly exactly that's that woman's truth.

663
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Marcia too, but Sylvia really took it on the gin right,

664
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's talking about it. Yeah, he's young and smart

665
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>and unafraid. And you know, the most mind boggling thing

666
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.039
<v Speaker 1>we saw after all Trump's garbage is now he's dressing

667
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:48.599
<v Speaker 1>like him to say that they met once and Trump's

668
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>in love with him and he didn't cave on anything,

669
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 1>but he's you know, it's the game that narcissists play,

670
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, But well, he.

671
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Figures if he doesn't, he might never feel how bad

672
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:00.920
<v Speaker 2>in New York again?

673
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps I'm hoping, you know, Gavin Newsom is paying attention

674
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.119
<v Speaker 1>because for all his little exploits with you know, Trump,

675
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>he's also thrown us under the bus a bit, going

676
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:16.159
<v Speaker 1>on right wing podcasts and you know, doing the whole

677
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>whataboutism thing with trans people and I'm not cool, Gavin,

678
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.519
<v Speaker 1>And you don't need to do that to win. No,

679
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 1>you don't need that flex and it's not the flex

680
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you think it is, but it does tell me you're

681
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>out of touch. I love, and we're seeing people like

682
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>AOC and Bernie Beloved and mom, Donny, what did he have?

683
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:41.800
<v Speaker 1>One percent? At one point? Right, and went on to

684
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 1>win by a serious margin.

685
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I knew he was going from the moment I clocked

686
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 2>what he was about. I was like, he's going to win.

687
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you showed me one video and I said, I

688
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>want to vote for him. I want to vote for

689
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 1>him for New Jersey governor. Right, nothing against Mikey. I

690
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>mean congratulations to Mikey. Cheryl who did not come on

691
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>the podcast whatever shade, Yeah, well offered the opportunity. But anyway,

692
00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, she ran a more cautious campaign. Let's just

693
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:22.079
<v Speaker 1>say that certainly has been seen in rainbow shirts and

694
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.320
<v Speaker 1>knows the folks at Garden State Equality and all of

695
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that could have said and done more Interestingly, there is

696
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>a day of lobbying and it happens to be December eighth,

697
00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:41.320
<v Speaker 1>my birthday in Trenton for the lame duck session and

698
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>passing of the transgender but essentially the healthcare Bill of Rights.

699
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>So all of the things that we had via executive

700
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:53.320
<v Speaker 1>order from Phil Rthy. We know that they have the votes,

701
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:55.679
<v Speaker 1>we know that it's possible. We want to see it

702
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 1>get done because it was kind of a promise, yeah,

703
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:02.079
<v Speaker 1>and we want to see that promise for filled before January.

704
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>We want those things codified into law, that New Jersey

705
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>is a safe place for trans people and those who

706
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>provide our healthcare, and that they will not be penalized

707
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>for providing health care. Damn it, and Mike, you won

708
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:24.039
<v Speaker 1>by a landslide. That's a landslide. What was it? Thirteen points,

709
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I believe, and that's a mandate. That's an actual mandate.

710
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, her and mom Donnie both what they have in

711
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 2>common is they had so many votes that it was

712
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 2>called in their favor, like immediately, not even a full

713
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.679
<v Speaker 2>hour after Pope Poles post closed at.

714
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Eight, and I knew at eight twenty, right, I was

715
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:48.360
<v Speaker 1>getting texts at eight toes, so not even a half hour,

716
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.480
<v Speaker 1>not even a half hour that you know, they knew

717
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>there was no possible path for Jack Chitdarelli or whatever

718
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:59.079
<v Speaker 1>his name is, to win. And he was a Maga extremist.

719
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, when New Jersey has voted for a Republican governor,

720
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it's usually because they're pissed off. And it's never been

721
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a Maga kind of person. No, never. I mean, Chris

722
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Christy was bad enough for everyone, but it's never been

723
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that right, and Jack keeps trying, But I would say

724
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Mikey has a mandate, and you know, we certainly know

725
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:29.760
<v Speaker 1>many folks who are gonna remind her that we helped

726
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:35.199
<v Speaker 1>get her there. That are, and I have heard wonderful

727
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>things about her. I truly I have friends who know

728
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:41.920
<v Speaker 1>her better. Maybe not the world's best campaigner, but a

729
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:47.559
<v Speaker 1>serious person who you know, seriously engages policy, smart as

730
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a whip, and will govern well. Right, So yay, yay

731
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:58.840
<v Speaker 1>for us, Yeay for Virginia. You know, so many Democrats

732
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>won and Moms for Liberty slated. I don't know how

733
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.719
<v Speaker 1>many candidates. I believe none one.

734
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:08.599
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, it doesn't even matter because not

735
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:09.920
<v Speaker 2>near nd one of them.

736
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, last time was paying attention, it was none. Now

737
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Diane said last night maybe it was one or two,

738
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:18.320
<v Speaker 1>but I maybe, but it wasn't many.

739
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I heard none.

740
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I heard none as well, but that was early, so

741
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if a couple squeaked in, but I

742
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 1>heard none. And it's either none or close to none.

743
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 1>And good, right, good, because people are waking up to

744
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:36.159
<v Speaker 1>where that goes, right where y'all are taking us what this?

745
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:40.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, people are getting the full picture of this

746
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:46.199
<v Speaker 1>mess that many of y'all got us into well, and

747
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>they don't like it. I wanted brown people to suffer,

748
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>not me.

749
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Not me. Fascism look cooler in the brochure.

750
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 1>It looks so good when you were punishing the people

751
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't like. Uh, the ones I find.

752
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Dicky, But it does it feel good?

753
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:09.519
<v Speaker 1>No, But you know my farm is bankrupt and I'm bankrupt.

754
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>We have no healthcare and that's not what he promised.

755
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 1>He's got a ballroom now people are seeing it.

756
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Myself hating brown husband got deported.

757
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and he's building a fucking ballroom, desecrating the

758
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 1>White House and building ballroom while people are suffering. And

759
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.119
<v Speaker 1>like I said, don't make no mistake. The Doge shit

760
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.880
<v Speaker 1>affected a lot of people, a lot of humans, a

761
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of services that were critical. And you will see,

762
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you will see the effects of that absence as time

763
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:55.119
<v Speaker 1>goes on, because you can't, not exactly, you can't. And again,

764
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:57.800
<v Speaker 1>when we lost our grant, we lost any power we

765
00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:04.239
<v Speaker 1>had to insist on fairness where we were concerned. So thanks Doge.

766
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:08.159
<v Speaker 1>What else? Nancy Pelosi has announced that she will not

767
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:11.960
<v Speaker 1>seek reelection and she is retiring. Correct, yeah, you speak

768
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 1>her Emeritis has been in public service for six decades.

769
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:22.199
<v Speaker 1>This month she did announce her retirement.

770
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:26.280
<v Speaker 2>And the thing that pissed me off about that is

771
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:31.119
<v Speaker 2>all these people, like the agism just jumps up like, finally,

772
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.679
<v Speaker 2>get all these old people out. We need you all

773
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 2>forgetting that these people have been fighting for your ungrateful

774
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:42.199
<v Speaker 2>ass for decades.

775
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and there is a point at which no, I

776
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 1>get it, you know, I.

777
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just saying like that shouldn't be the first

778
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 2>thing out your mouth.

779
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:59.199
<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't. And we don't hear it as full throatedly

780
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:03.719
<v Speaker 1>towards the old men as we do older women. So

781
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:09.039
<v Speaker 1>except for Biden, well we did, yeah, and we got

782
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 1>something much less healthy and much worse. But okay, and

783
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:20.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm gonna still say Kama didn't have a

784
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:24.280
<v Speaker 1>shot to really launch a campaign. America is still racist

785
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and misogynistic to the point where I don't know that

786
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.119
<v Speaker 1>she could have won. I'm not sure, but I do

787
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:31.559
<v Speaker 1>think Biden would have beat him anyway. Well, I think

788
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.599
<v Speaker 1>I think it was you know that, I know he

789
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:40.760
<v Speaker 1>promised one term. He did right, and so it would

790
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:46.159
<v Speaker 1>have been great if she had more time. But all

791
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:49.519
<v Speaker 1>that said, you know, I don't know that switching horses

792
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 1>midstream was smart, certainly not look around, and I'm a devastation.

793
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even sure it's fair to say Kamala wouldn't

794
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 2>won because of the elon of it, all right, which

795
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 2>we don't know, I mean even well he basically all

796
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:10.679
<v Speaker 2>but said, well, well they did, and all but said, well,

797
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.079
<v Speaker 2>and we should be investigating that. We should be investigating that.

798
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:18.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a there's a democratic governor in Pennsylvania

799
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:21.360
<v Speaker 2>because they I believe the statement was made about Pennsylvania.

800
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:26.760
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, like, investigate that ship then, right, make sure

801
00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 2>it can't happen, and if it did happen, prosecute them.

802
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ. Right, I don't know. I don't know, you know,

803
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:40.599
<v Speaker 1>because I remember saying in the primary when it was

804
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The first time, I said,

805
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.559
<v Speaker 1>we're about to find out who America is more afraid

806
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.920
<v Speaker 1>of a black man or a white woman. There turns

807
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.840
<v Speaker 1>out they were more afraid of the white woman because

808
00:52:56.000 --> 00:53:00.639
<v Speaker 1>he was half black or something, and they tortured him

809
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the entire time he was in office, which I'm sure

810
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:05.800
<v Speaker 1>they will do, you know, or would do with a

811
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 1>woman in office. You know, there's no woman who will

812
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:09.360
<v Speaker 1>pass uster.

813
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why it cracks me up, because who will.

814
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.599
<v Speaker 2>People are trying to gass up Michelle Obama about running,

815
00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:18.119
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, if you don't get the fuck out

816
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:22.639
<v Speaker 2>my face with that bullshit, or you know, the Michelle Obama.

817
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Version of the Michelle Obama version of if you don't

818
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:26.480
<v Speaker 1>get the fuck out of my face.

819
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, she was like, y'all. Basically, she was like, y'all

820
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 2>ain't ready, so don't waste my time. Not to mention

821
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:37.760
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't want to. She barely wanted to be first Lady.

822
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Correct.

823
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:41.119
<v Speaker 2>She loved her husband and support her husband more than

824
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:43.000
<v Speaker 2>she didn't want to be first lady. And that's the

825
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:50.239
<v Speaker 2>only reason why, Like don't, just don't. And people are

826
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:54.039
<v Speaker 2>like trying to come at Kamala about some of the

827
00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:56.440
<v Speaker 2>way things are. She was like, I'm not the president,

828
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 2>so what you're yelling at me exactly?

829
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:01.679
<v Speaker 1>Yep, this wouldn't happen in my watch, So you go

830
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 1>to hell. She has a book out and I want

831
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:06.679
<v Speaker 1>to read it. Yeah, I do want to read her book.

832
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:13.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you know, we have some lessons from the past,

833
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 1>like Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But again, she had the right

834
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to keep working. She wasn't. She was not senile. I mean,

835
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:26.920
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't in perfect health, but she was not losing

836
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>her faculties. Right. I mean Diane Feinstein staid too late

837
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 1>at the party. You know, it seemed apparent that her

838
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:41.440
<v Speaker 1>staffers were running things for quite a while, right, And

839
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 1>we need to not do that. And you know, Kathy

840
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and I had this conversation recently and I was like,

841
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:54.039
<v Speaker 1>if you were embarrassing yourself, we wouldn't let you, right,

842
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>We'd say it's time to go. Remember you wanted to

843
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:01.480
<v Speaker 1>know it's it's time to go. It's time to bow

844
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:04.199
<v Speaker 1>off the air, you know. And She's like, I would

845
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.599
<v Speaker 1>expect that, And I'm like, I know, why did she

846
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:12.280
<v Speaker 1>not have anyone who come on? Baby? But everyone else

847
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:16.280
<v Speaker 1>enjoys the power that they have because of position. And

848
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, I want politics to be different, right, I

849
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:25.519
<v Speaker 1>just do. But you know, Nancy has had a long

850
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and distinguished career, A trailblazer, a fighter. She proved she

851
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:34.400
<v Speaker 1>knew how to rally things, she knew how to you know,

852
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:39.800
<v Speaker 1>get to voters. She did some pretty amazing things as speaker.

853
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>And I wish her a lovely and healthy and long

854
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:53.599
<v Speaker 1>retirement because she has certainly served us often, thanklessly, for

855
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:54.239
<v Speaker 1>a long time.

856
00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I want her to sit somewhere with some brandy and

857
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:01.280
<v Speaker 2>her feet up and some bunny slippers, reading some trashy

858
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 2>novel just because you fucking can. That's what I want

859
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 2>for her.

860
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm. So I'm jumping to Manuel Miranda, who was

861
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:16.239
<v Speaker 1>annow dot com saying it was an easy decision to

862
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:20.760
<v Speaker 1>cancel Hamilton at the Kennedy Center, another institution that Trump

863
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:26.519
<v Speaker 1>has trashed law while I was away. Yeah, they refused

864
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:29.679
<v Speaker 1>to perform, and good.

865
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:33.599
<v Speaker 2>And not just them like Isa Ray was supposed to

866
00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:37.320
<v Speaker 2>perform and didn't. It was a bunch of folks. And

867
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:39.039
<v Speaker 2>it's basically like, fuck.

868
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Y'all, is your monkey ass happiness? You got? You got

869
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 1>let's say, Kid Rock, Nicki Minaje, right and Chachi. Yeah,

870
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:53.360
<v Speaker 1>so enjoy that.

871
00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:55.880
<v Speaker 2>And just because you put a house faggot in charge

872
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:56.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that it's going.

873
00:56:56.800 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 1>To be art. No, it does not, It doesn't. I

874
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>have an anecdote. I would love to add to that,

875
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.480
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not going to. But I have one right

876
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:08.440
<v Speaker 1>at the tip of my dad.

877
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he does know how many minutes

878
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:12.599
<v Speaker 2>make up a year. He's not the one.

879
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Got damned, he's not the one. Nomm hm no, no, no,

880
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.159
<v Speaker 1>no no. It's going to take a long time to

881
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>get these institutions back to look at all the mess,

882
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>because we've got like it's kind of like a drunken

883
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:36.119
<v Speaker 1>toddler just running through the country. Wow, that's an apt image. Yeah, yeah,

884
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:40.039
<v Speaker 1>just just smashing things, including the Kennedy Center.

885
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:45.000
<v Speaker 2>The arts community had five hundred and twenty five six

886
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:46.519
<v Speaker 2>hundred ways to say fuck you.

887
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wellnell had said that this was a publicity stunt

888
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>that would backfire, and of course, you know, this is

889
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:58.199
<v Speaker 1>the Center's new president. Of course he deleted that tweet.

890
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm.

891
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:05.079
<v Speaker 2>They don't need to do a publicity stunt. They're fucking Hamilton.

892
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And of course, Harvey Feirestein said he was banned

893
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 1>from the Kennedy Center after he criticized Trump and called

894
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:18.199
<v Speaker 1>Crenell a self loathing queer because he is that part,

895
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, and self loathing queer is a little more

896
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:23.440
<v Speaker 1>eloquent than housewaggot.

897
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.599
<v Speaker 2>But it's the exact same thing.

898
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:32.440
<v Speaker 1>It is distinction without a difference, thank you very much.

899
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't blame them at all. I

900
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:49.280
<v Speaker 4>don't blame them at all, you know, because ugh, what

901
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.159
<v Speaker 4>you're doing is ugly and awful, and the more people

902
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:55.119
<v Speaker 4>that stand up against it, the better. We've had some

903
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:59.480
<v Speaker 4>amazing No King's Days and you know everyone said that

904
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:01.960
<v Speaker 4>was that, that they were stunts, but boy did they

905
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:04.840
<v Speaker 4>lead to some results election day?

906
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Boy did they that part? And may that continue? May

907
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that continue? I you know, we've often said what will

908
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it take for people to stay interested and go vote?

909
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:20.320
<v Speaker 1>And you know, how bad does it have to get?

910
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:26.079
<v Speaker 1>And you know, we're seeing how awful his Supreme Court is.

911
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:34.400
<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk some more about that that elections have consequences. Indeed,

912
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:36.880
<v Speaker 1>y'all let's see.

913
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:40.639
<v Speaker 2>So I want to talk about this real quick because

914
00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:46.159
<v Speaker 2>it's still going. The New York Historical Society has an

915
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 2>ongoing exhibition honoring and displaying the LGBTQ legacy of the

916
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Harlem Renaissance. So the exhibition is all about the queer

917
00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:04.000
<v Speaker 2>folks that that were a part of that movement. And

918
01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:08.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, we always talk about how the Harlem Renaissance

919
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:12.960
<v Speaker 2>was about, you know, the black intelligensia, which it was,

920
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:18.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, and the the artistry and the music and

921
01:00:18.320 --> 01:00:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the thinking that came out of that movement. But we

922
01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 2>never talk about how queer it was.

923
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:25.159
<v Speaker 1>It was in the twenties and thirties, and it was

924
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:26.199
<v Speaker 1>very queer.

925
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, very very queer. In fact, most of the people

926
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.360
<v Speaker 2>that we name off the top of our husband talking

927
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:33.599
<v Speaker 2>about the Harlem Renaissance were queer as fuck.

928
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.719
<v Speaker 1>My Raini, my Rainie, Langston.

929
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Huge Langston, Hughes, keep going. Yeah, so that exhibit the

930
01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:48.880
<v Speaker 2>gay Harlem Renaissance.

931
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:55.320
<v Speaker 1>The first is going with the water Smith.

932
01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I did.

933
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Took a second.

934
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.920
<v Speaker 2>It's running, It's it opened in October and it's running

935
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:06.840
<v Speaker 2>until March.

936
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh. I love that.

937
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.440
<v Speaker 2>That's why I wanted to talk about it, because you know,

938
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:12.559
<v Speaker 2>people should check it out.

939
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:21.400
<v Speaker 1>And this is where you said, the New York Historical Society. Yes, uh,

940
01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:23.920
<v Speaker 1>where where is that? Yeah?

941
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:28.760
<v Speaker 2>So the New York Historical is Central Park West. Yeah,

942
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:33.280
<v Speaker 2>And so we're going to post a link to the

943
01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:36.760
<v Speaker 2>website so that you can go check it out because

944
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:44.480
<v Speaker 2>it's an amazing collection of the legacy, the queer legacy,

945
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:49.679
<v Speaker 2>the black legacy of a major influence in American pop

946
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:54.000
<v Speaker 2>culture and American culture at large. And I want us

947
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:54.320
<v Speaker 2>to go.

948
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I would love to, Yeah, I would love to say it.

949
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:03.519
<v Speaker 1>M h to say so no, it's interesting. So all

950
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:05.039
<v Speaker 1>we have a Central Park West, that's all.

951
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:09.199
<v Speaker 2>We got one seventy Central Park West, Richard Gildaway on

952
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:10.199
<v Speaker 2>seventy seventh Street.

953
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and that's where this display, Yes, m B, yes,

954
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:16.159
<v Speaker 1>so yeah.

955
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Gay Harlem Renaissance runs until March eighth, twenty twenty six.

956
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I love that. No, I would love to see that

957
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:29.360
<v Speaker 1>since worth seeing exactly. Yeah. The more we study history,

958
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the more we cry. Well, that's all I got. I

959
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:45.239
<v Speaker 1>love the headline. DEM candidate glitter bombs anti LGBTQ plus

960
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Christian group over transphobic survey. I think it's only fair

961
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:54.840
<v Speaker 1>they get a little sparkle in their life. Read show. Walter,

962
01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:58.599
<v Speaker 1>a thirty two year old heterosexual who is one of

963
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:03.280
<v Speaker 1>sixteen Democratic candidates it's running to represent for Illinois's seventh

964
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:07.559
<v Speaker 1>congressional district in the US House, recently responded to a

965
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:13.760
<v Speaker 1>candidate survey from the transphobic Illinois Family Institute by filling

966
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:19.039
<v Speaker 1>it out and enclosing it in a glitter bomb ha namely,

967
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:22.840
<v Speaker 1>an envelope filled with lots of golden glitter just waiting

968
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:28.519
<v Speaker 1>to spill abon whoever opens it. Okay, I love that. Yeah,

969
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:30.599
<v Speaker 1>So one of the funny things about running for offices.

970
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:34.119
<v Speaker 1>You get inundated with a bunch of questionnaires asking what

971
01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:38.039
<v Speaker 1>your positions are, considering whether they'll endorse you or whether

972
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 1>they will campaign actively against you, including some of the strangest,

973
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:47.719
<v Speaker 1>most gobliny people on earth. For example, the Illinois Family

974
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Institute boldly bringing a biblical perspective to public policy in

975
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the Land of Lincoln, which I guess to them means

976
01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:58.639
<v Speaker 1>opposing abortion and LGBT interests.

977
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mmmmm.

978
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:06.280
<v Speaker 1>They sent the questionnaire asking if he supports withholding federal

979
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:12.800
<v Speaker 1>funds from schools that allow biological males to participate in

980
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:18.519
<v Speaker 1>female sports. So they oppose trans people, but only if

981
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:21.239
<v Speaker 1>it's male to female and not the other way around.

982
01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:24.719
<v Speaker 1>And he added that to the group's questionnaire actually asks

983
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:28.679
<v Speaker 1>the sports question twice. They're obsessed with it. We know

984
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:35.599
<v Speaker 1>those the children's genital fetishists are obsessed. Yeah, they're gleefully

985
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 1>transphobic and homophobic. So I think it's only fair that

986
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:40.519
<v Speaker 1>they get a little sparkle and they're like, well, it's funny.

987
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:44.079
<v Speaker 2>And the thing about glitter bombs, besides.

988
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:46.159
<v Speaker 1>You know you can never get rid of all, right.

989
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:50.199
<v Speaker 2>It's besides being attention grabbing. That's so disrespectful because you

990
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:52.159
<v Speaker 2>ain't never getting that.

991
01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Out They don't deserve any respect.

992
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh I agree. I'm just saying I love how disrespectful

993
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.800
<v Speaker 2>it is because becomes part of the DNA, whatever it

994
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:05.000
<v Speaker 2>lands on, you ain't getting that out there.

995
01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:09.119
<v Speaker 1>You go ever, God, we have never had this many

996
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:12.960
<v Speaker 1>items in our favorite segment. It's time for.

997
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:18.760
<v Speaker 5>Empoya people taking pleasure.

998
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Name he it is so Alex Jones appealed the one

999
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:31.119
<v Speaker 1>point four billion dollar defamation judgment in the Sandy Hook shooting,

1000
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:35.599
<v Speaker 1>and the Supreme Court rejected. It is back, but we

1001
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:36.599
<v Speaker 1>paid for you.

1002
01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Right, this is back in mid October.

1003
01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:41.519
<v Speaker 1>It is but still good.

1004
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, he don't deserve nada.

1005
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:49.639
<v Speaker 1>This conspiracy theorist described the twenty twelve Sandy Hook Elementary

1006
01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:55.239
<v Speaker 1>School shooting as a hoox staged by crisis actors. Right

1007
01:05:55.960 --> 01:06:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Info Wars was his show in case you've forgotten nothing.

1008
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:05.719
<v Speaker 1>There was no comment from the justices, which they issued

1009
01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:10.199
<v Speaker 1>without even asking families of the victims to respond to

1010
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Jones's appeal.

1011
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, because we're not even going to bother y'all with this. Nope,

1012
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:16.800
<v Speaker 2>get the fuck out our face.

1013
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:21.360
<v Speaker 1>A lawyer who represented the families said the Supreme Court

1014
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:27.360
<v Speaker 1>had properly rejected Jones's latest desperate attempt to avoid accountability

1015
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:30.320
<v Speaker 1>for the harm he has caused. I want these people

1016
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:34.119
<v Speaker 1>to pay. Uh, I want them to pay for their lives. Yeah,

1017
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you know this shit is biblical, by the way. You know,

1018
01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:41.199
<v Speaker 1>there's that whole thing about those who lead my innocence astray.

1019
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:44.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a whole thing. I'm not gonna look

1020
01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:47.440
<v Speaker 1>it up, but there is. And trust you you know

1021
01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:50.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like and that's who these people actually are and

1022
01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:55.119
<v Speaker 1>who's worshiping them, the Christians, the fucking evangelicals. It's crazy.

1023
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:59.280
<v Speaker 1>It is crazy. And yeah, I want them to pay

1024
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.639
<v Speaker 1>and pay big for their lies, worked on rudy for

1025
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.079
<v Speaker 1>their lives. Who just said? Which one was it him?

1026
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Which one of them? Just said? If the Democrats take over,

1027
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:12.119
<v Speaker 1>we're all going to jail.

1028
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:12.719
<v Speaker 2>M hmm.

1029
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:18.880
<v Speaker 1>That's our hope the Trump administration is over. Hm, that's

1030
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:21.039
<v Speaker 1>all right, Yeah, that is our.

1031
01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Hope, said the quiet part out loud.

1032
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Yep, he dies. Yeah, I forget who's sign up, but

1033
01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:31.840
<v Speaker 1>it was one of these jackasses anyway, they said nope,

1034
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:34.320
<v Speaker 1>So he's still on the hook and he should be.

1035
01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:40.679
<v Speaker 1>And good Oh that was Steve Bennon. I confused, Steve Bennon,

1036
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones. I think they're the same person. I mean,

1037
01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:45.039
<v Speaker 1>they basically are.

1038
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Very minimal difference.

1039
01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Bloated white men, bloated, blotchy white men who haven't seen

1040
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:53.079
<v Speaker 1>their dick in decades. Yeah, same thing.

1041
01:07:53.760 --> 01:07:56.039
<v Speaker 2>One bite to stake away from not being here. No

1042
01:07:56.159 --> 01:08:01.960
<v Speaker 2>more livers. Sound like this.

1043
01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Carrying a defibrillator Like it's a girlfriend, Iowa. I'm just

1044
01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:16.880
<v Speaker 1>picturing these dudents like shocking themselves in the hallway to

1045
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:17.439
<v Speaker 1>keep going.

1046
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:21.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what the most exciting battles right, well, this

1047
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:22.920
<v Speaker 2>is my girlfriend, clear.

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01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Iowa must play eighty five thousand dollars because state

1049
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:35.680
<v Speaker 1>troopers blocked trans students from capital restrooms. Yeah good right,

1050
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:39.079
<v Speaker 1>six months after Iowa removed gender identity as a protected

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01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:43.000
<v Speaker 1>class from its civil rights laws, jackasses, The state now

1052
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:46.159
<v Speaker 1>must pay eighty five thousand dollars to LGBTQ plus students

1053
01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:50.319
<v Speaker 1>ejected from the Iowa Capital in twenty twenty, among them

1054
01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:54.319
<v Speaker 1>trans students who were denied access to the building's bathrooms.

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01:08:55.600 --> 01:09:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Iowa Safe Schools and LGBTQ Plus Youth advocacy group sponsored

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01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:03.720
<v Speaker 1>a visit for about one hundred and fifty Iowa students

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01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:07.079
<v Speaker 1>and chaperones to the Capitol to meet with legislators in

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01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:12.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. The group's then executive director, Nate Monson, told

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01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the Iowa Register that at the time, Iowa State Patrol

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01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:21.680
<v Speaker 1>troopers told several transgender students they couldn't use one of

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01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:26.239
<v Speaker 1>the bathrooms and had to use a gender neutral restroom instead.

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01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:30.720
<v Speaker 1>When he intervened, arguing the troopers directions were inconsistent with

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01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:39.319
<v Speaker 1>state law, the entire group was ordered to leave. Yep, yeah, yeah, Wow,

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01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the Civil Rights Code includes gender identity. He told me

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01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:45.039
<v Speaker 1>it did not. Then I told him, yes, it did,

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01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:49.039
<v Speaker 1>and he said, well, it doesn't include bathrooms. The students

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01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:51.840
<v Speaker 1>were then told to leave the capitol altogether, that they

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01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:54.840
<v Speaker 1>had been banned from the capitol grounds and that they

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01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:57.079
<v Speaker 1>would be arrested if they returned.

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01:09:58.119 --> 01:09:59.479
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:06.399
<v Speaker 1>File a suit in twenty twenty two alleging sex based discrimination, harassment,

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01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and unlawful retaliation. Under terms of a settlement agreement filed

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01:10:11.680 --> 01:10:15.439
<v Speaker 1>in July approved by the Iowa State Board Appeals on Tuesday,

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01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:18.159
<v Speaker 1>the state will pay the students and group leaders to

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01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 1>settle the case without admitting any wrongdoing. Well okay, yeah, yeah, good, good.

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01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I want it to be expensive. That's apparently all we have, right,

1077
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:35.159
<v Speaker 1>make it cost, Hey, make it cost if you're going

1078
01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:37.319
<v Speaker 1>to be a lying piece of shit, if you are

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01:10:37.359 --> 01:10:41.159
<v Speaker 1>going to discriminate against people because you don't like how

1080
01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:46.319
<v Speaker 1>they look, you know, yeah, I make it be expensive

1081
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:47.079
<v Speaker 1>to be stupid.

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01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Please these didn't that used to be the phrase, if

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01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:54.359
<v Speaker 2>you think education is expensive, try ignorance.

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01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:56.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, so.

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01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fine, let's put that into action.

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01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Meant we mentioned the Kennedy Center earlier. Uh huh, it

1087
01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:13.279
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been going well, right, So the headline reads, empty

1088
01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:17.000
<v Speaker 1>seats and plummeting sales have plagued the Kennedy Center since

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01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Trump's takeover. It's quote dire.

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01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Sorry about it.

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01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:25.800
<v Speaker 1>He promised to make it hot again. Instead he's made

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01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:32.239
<v Speaker 1>it toxic, as with everything he touches hot again. Yeah, yeah,

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01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:34.399
<v Speaker 1>it didn't need your help.

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01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kennedy Center was before him, one of the hottest

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01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:41.840
<v Speaker 2>tickets in town, no matter what was playing.

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01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Washington Area residents and visitors to the Capitol are voting

1097
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:51.319
<v Speaker 1>with their wallets a referendum on President Trump's golden Age

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01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:55.720
<v Speaker 1>in Arts and Culture, a new analysis by the Washington

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01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Post describes half empty halls and plummeting ticket sales at

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01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:04.039
<v Speaker 1>the Kennedy Center, which Trump took over as chairman earlier

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01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:08.640
<v Speaker 1>this year, vowing to end woke programming. In his purge

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01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:13.039
<v Speaker 1>of the once revered arts and culture institution. He fired staff,

1103
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:17.680
<v Speaker 1>replaced advisory boards, and installed a new team headed by

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01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Rick Garnell, who we have earlier indicated as a housewag. Yeah. Yeah,

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01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the numbers are not good. The three largest performance venues,

1106
01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:33.199
<v Speaker 1>the Opera House, the Concert Hall, and the Eisenhower Theater

1107
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:38.000
<v Speaker 1>worse they've been in years. Yeah, tens of thousands of

1108
01:12:38.079 --> 01:12:43.640
<v Speaker 1>seats left empty. Since Trump took over, forty percent of

1109
01:12:43.720 --> 01:12:47.520
<v Speaker 1>tickets remain unsold for the typical production at the venue

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01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:50.760
<v Speaker 1>in the new fall season. Forty three percent excuse me,

1111
01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:55.319
<v Speaker 1>from a pool of one hundred and forty three thousand

1112
01:12:55.720 --> 01:13:00.119
<v Speaker 1>seats during September and October, more than fifty thousand and

1113
01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:04.720
<v Speaker 1>remain vacant. During the same period last year, only seven

1114
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:08.159
<v Speaker 1>percent of seats on average were available on a typical

1115
01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:13.000
<v Speaker 1>production on the day of the performance. Huh. Patrons spent

1116
01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:15.920
<v Speaker 1>half as much money on tickets in September on the

1117
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:18.640
<v Speaker 1>first half of October twenty twenty five as during the

1118
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:22.920
<v Speaker 1>same period in twenty twenty four. Uh huh. Given the

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01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:28.399
<v Speaker 1>unprecedented takeover of a nonpartisan arts institution, combined with the

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01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:33.640
<v Speaker 1>inexperience and rhetoric of the new management, I expected to

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01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:38.239
<v Speaker 1>decline in sales, said a former staff member. These numbers

1122
01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:41.520
<v Speaker 1>are likely more dire than they appear, as they don't

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01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:45.960
<v Speaker 1>account for canceled productions or shows moved into smaller theaters

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01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:51.600
<v Speaker 1>due to weak ticket sales. Uh huh, a current staff member.

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01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Of course they're all speaking, said, The drop is all

1126
01:13:55.399 --> 01:14:00.079
<v Speaker 1>about Trump. This downturn isn't just about pricing or programming.

1127
01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:03.239
<v Speaker 1>It feels directly tied to the new regime's leadership shift

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01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:07.199
<v Speaker 1>and the broader political climate. Yeah, we don't want it right.

1129
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:11.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not fun. Your bullshit is not fun. He The

1130
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:14.359
<v Speaker 1>only book that man ever read was mindkomf Is it

1131
01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:15.279
<v Speaker 1>not obvious yet?

1132
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Had read to him whatever?

1133
01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Or there's a coloring book, whatever, He had a thirteen

1134
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:23.920
<v Speaker 1>year old read it in Epstein's bedroom.

1135
01:14:23.560 --> 01:14:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm sorry, you take away queer folks, brown folks

1136
01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:33.159
<v Speaker 2>and quote unquote wokeness out of art and what is left?

1137
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1138
01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Nothing good?

1139
01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, and again the last gasps, We're never going to

1140
01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:44.560
<v Speaker 1>be easy, and that's not what we're saying. Mediocrity is

1141
01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:51.279
<v Speaker 1>not happy about, you know, seating anything. And they see it,

1142
01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:56.079
<v Speaker 1>they see their days are numbered.

1143
01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:03.039
<v Speaker 2>And we get kid rock Ted Nugent, the Village people

1144
01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:06.560
<v Speaker 2>and Nicki Minoj and well that's the biggest star on

1145
01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:07.119
<v Speaker 2>their roster.

1146
01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:10.680
<v Speaker 1>And is it all the Village people or just someone?

1147
01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the whole group's been ruined and tainted now.

1148
01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Which is ironic as irony of irony of irony. Yeah, so, uh,

1149
01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:28.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not going well at all. And if that's not shottenburd,

1150
01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:34.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. But there's more. Kim

1151
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:39.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking Davis, that ignorant bitch is still on the hook.

1152
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:40.439
<v Speaker 2>YEP.

1153
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:44.960
<v Speaker 1>The Supreme Court did reject her efforts to overturn, you know,

1154
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the ruling that said she owes money, and they declined

1155
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to revisit Overfeld at this point anyway, right, they declined

1156
01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:56.399
<v Speaker 1>to hear an appeal from her, the former Kentucky clerk

1157
01:15:56.920 --> 01:15:59.960
<v Speaker 1>best known for refusing to issue marriage licenses to say

1158
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:05.159
<v Speaker 1>sex couples after overveiled yep. Following the ruling, she stopped

1159
01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:10.239
<v Speaker 1>issuing marriage licenses altogether. And since filed multiple appeals seeking

1160
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:15.640
<v Speaker 1>to challenge same sex marriage protections. Once again, that is.

1161
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Her hill to die on.

1162
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:20.640
<v Speaker 1>They rejected her efforts. In this latest appeal, David sought

1163
01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:24.399
<v Speaker 1>to overturn a one hundred thousand dollars monetary award she

1164
01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:28.319
<v Speaker 1>was ordered to pay to David Moore and David Armhold,

1165
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the same sex couple to whom she denied a marriage license.

1166
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Her petition also urged the court to use the case

1167
01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:38.640
<v Speaker 1>as a vehicle to revisit the constitutional right to same

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01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:39.439
<v Speaker 1>sex marriage.

1169
01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:41.399
<v Speaker 2>How dare you exactly?

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01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:45.000
<v Speaker 1>The petition, along with the couple's brief and opposition, were

1171
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:49.199
<v Speaker 1>submitted to the Supreme Court on October twenty second and

1172
01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:54.680
<v Speaker 1>considered during their private conference on November seventh. She needed

1173
01:16:54.720 --> 01:16:57.479
<v Speaker 1>at least four votes for the Court to take up

1174
01:16:57.479 --> 01:16:59.680
<v Speaker 1>her case, but fell short.

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01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Yep, want and you can tell how long she's removed

1176
01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:09.239
<v Speaker 2>every queer person from her life just based on her

1177
01:17:09.319 --> 01:17:10.159
<v Speaker 2>hair and wardrobe.

1178
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:13.079
<v Speaker 1>J Yeah, she ain't got a gray friend. She wouldn't

1179
01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:19.760
<v Speaker 1>look like that. Good good, Yeah. No, I think you

1180
01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:22.319
<v Speaker 1>should go about the business of figuring out how you're

1181
01:17:22.319 --> 01:17:24.479
<v Speaker 1>going to pay these gentlemen, right.

1182
01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Churn some butter or whatever prairie ass looking bitches like

1183
01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:29.439
<v Speaker 2>you do.

1184
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Nobody else will caught her her maybe donate it. Oh,

1185
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:48.479
<v Speaker 1>this one is a head scratcher. The ride is now

1186
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:51.880
<v Speaker 1>transvestigating Charlie Kirk and his wife.

1187
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Eating their own.

1188
01:17:55.159 --> 01:17:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I said, just give it time, and it's happening.

1189
01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:06.840
<v Speaker 1>We knew it was inevitable. They're now knee deep with

1190
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Kirk and his widow. Who for a minute was he?

1191
01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:15.560
<v Speaker 1>They canonized him, didn't they? Some? Pretty much things got weird.

1192
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's still kind of weird. I saw a shirt

1193
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:22.239
<v Speaker 2>on Shine with his picture and said in loving memory

1194
01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and the dates.

1195
01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Nothing in love. So so which one do they think

1196
01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a secretly trans both of them?

1197
01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, mostly her.

1198
01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's her, and that's how he died broken heart.

1199
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:48.560
<v Speaker 2>No like someone on X posted several photos of of

1200
01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:53.399
<v Speaker 2>her from her Miss Arizona pageant contestant days, alleging that

1201
01:18:53.439 --> 01:18:58.680
<v Speaker 2>they showed evidence that she was secretly trans talking about

1202
01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:00.960
<v Speaker 2>her jawline, her collar, the five gap.

1203
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're so fun. They can't tell. And actually when

1204
01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:07.119
<v Speaker 1>they can tell.

1205
01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:12.319
<v Speaker 2>It's because yeah, they were as and then they're trying

1206
01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:16.399
<v Speaker 2>to say that Charlie Kirk said, Charlie Kirk seemed so

1207
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:21.319
<v Speaker 2>feminine and emasculated because she was a transgender handler. That's

1208
01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:25.119
<v Speaker 2>why he was so pretty. Those are words?

1209
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:31.840
<v Speaker 1>What are we even? Those are words though, like a

1210
01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.279
<v Speaker 1>transgender handler?

1211
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:35.960
<v Speaker 2>What?

1212
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:36.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1213
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:37.760
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1214
01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:45.520
<v Speaker 1>The one thing like Pizzagate and all these people, It

1215
01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:49.560
<v Speaker 1>turns out America was run by this huge pedophile ring.

1216
01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:54.319
<v Speaker 2>It's just the Republican which is looking in the wrong direction.

1217
01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:58.239
<v Speaker 1>And Trump is their leader. Yeah, you were right, you

1218
01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:02.279
<v Speaker 1>just were looking at the wrong people. Yeah, like this

1219
01:20:02.479 --> 01:20:08.000
<v Speaker 1>is Candice Orange. Shit, Yeah, y'all look crazy. Yeah they do.

1220
01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:12.239
<v Speaker 1>And like we know that. They said the same thing

1221
01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:13.359
<v Speaker 1>about Michelle Obama.

1222
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:18.119
<v Speaker 2>They some of her recently because of her Fannie Leba

1223
01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:18.920
<v Speaker 2>would spoke.

1224
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:22.960
<v Speaker 1>For some reason. They try to say that Dylan mulvaney

1225
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:29.960
<v Speaker 1>was a trans man before becoming a transwoman. What what?

1226
01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:36.439
<v Speaker 1>They're insane? And I don't know why we even give them,

1227
01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:40.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, inches, but they did, and it couldn't happen

1228
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to a nicer widow. How's that? Okay, let's say, Oh,

1229
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:49.199
<v Speaker 1>the leader of Turning Point pled guilty to attempt an

1230
01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:54.239
<v Speaker 1>election fraud. By the way, Yeah, Turning Point was Kirk's thing.

1231
01:20:56.239 --> 01:21:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Former GOP state rap Austin Smith was Scott submitting signatures

1232
01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:02.600
<v Speaker 1>in his re election campaign.

1233
01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Ih See.

1234
01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:09.760
<v Speaker 1>The former Republican state legislator, pleaded guilty to what he

1235
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:13.439
<v Speaker 1>previously called ludicrous charges that he personally forged more than

1236
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:16.479
<v Speaker 1>one hundred signatures on his petition for reelection last year.

1237
01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:23.039
<v Speaker 1>But he did. The Republican from Surprise Arizona was a

1238
01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:26.720
<v Speaker 1>member of the far right Arizona Freedom Caucus, which has

1239
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:30.319
<v Speaker 1>a history of spreading false claims of election fraud. The

1240
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:34.039
<v Speaker 1>irony should kill them, it should choke them, if only,

1241
01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:38.079
<v Speaker 1>if only. As a part of his guilty play, he

1242
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:40.920
<v Speaker 1>admitted signing the name of a deceased woman on one

1243
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:44.159
<v Speaker 1>of his candidate nomination petitions in March of twenty four.

1244
01:21:45.199 --> 01:21:47.720
<v Speaker 1>He also admitted that he attempted to deceive the Secretary

1245
01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:52.520
<v Speaker 1>of State's office by knowingly filing petitions containing forged signatures

1246
01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:57.920
<v Speaker 1>of purported supporters. So he pleaded guilty, and he did

1247
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:02.479
<v Speaker 1>all that shit. He was at the time he was indicted,

1248
01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:09.239
<v Speaker 1>strategic director of Turning Point Action. Turning Point Ussay's advocacy arm,

1249
01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:15.159
<v Speaker 1>the far right organization based in Phoenix aiming to mobilize

1250
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:24.439
<v Speaker 1>young conservatives founded by none other than Charlie Kirk advocacy. Yeah,

1251
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:28.039
<v Speaker 1>another Republican criminal.

1252
01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Of which they are legion oop.

1253
01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Yet and finally, Marjorie Taylor.

1254
01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Green yep, the notorious NTG.

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01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:51.119
<v Speaker 1>This bitch has only had a deal with the Republicans

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01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:54.319
<v Speaker 1>for like a week, but she knows she a better

1257
01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:57.880
<v Speaker 1>hire a security guard, like she knows how fucked up

1258
01:22:57.960 --> 01:22:58.279
<v Speaker 1>they are.

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01:22:59.079 --> 01:22:59.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:04.880
<v Speaker 1>She has blasted Trump for vicious attacks amid a pipe

1261
01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:09.239
<v Speaker 1>bomb scare and death threat against her son since you know,

1262
01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:12.039
<v Speaker 1>she's been calling for the Epstein files to be released,

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01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and she has turned against Trump. Yeah, you know, she

1264
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:20.479
<v Speaker 1>waited until her pension. You know, they only have to

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01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>be in Congress for five years to get a pension.

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01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:26.239
<v Speaker 1>By the way, crazy damn. Yeah. They raped the country

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01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:29.279
<v Speaker 1>in so many ways and she went in. I mean

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01:23:29.640 --> 01:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>she had money, but she has a hell of a

1269
01:23:31.760 --> 01:23:36.479
<v Speaker 1>lot more money now because insider trading. Yeah. Anyway, Marge,

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01:23:37.119 --> 01:23:41.279
<v Speaker 1>who is still a psychopath, Yes, has made some sense

1271
01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>lately and it hasn't gone well with MEGA And now

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01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>she quits and she's gone. She's resigning. Yeah, and she's

1273
01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:57.439
<v Speaker 1>not retiring, she's resigning, which means they're going to be

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01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:00.479
<v Speaker 1>down a seat until it's filled. She knows that.

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01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he withdrew his support from her because she broke

1277
01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:13.039
<v Speaker 1>with her party on several issues, most recently the approach

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01:24:13.119 --> 01:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>to healthcare and the government shut down, and their opposition

1279
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:23.239
<v Speaker 1>to legislation that would order the release of the government's files.

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01:24:24.439 --> 01:24:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein, Yes, every fucking time I had to agree

1281
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>with her, I was angry. Is that because I hate

1282
01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>this woman? I mean, she's still the one that put

1283
01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:38.399
<v Speaker 1>the billboard outside her office that said there are only

1284
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>two genders, not She's a piece of shit, and she's

1285
01:24:41.800 --> 01:24:43.279
<v Speaker 1>never going to not be a piece of shit.

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01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't trust her just because she happens to be

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01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:47.640
<v Speaker 2>technically correct.

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01:24:47.840 --> 01:24:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Apparently she can read the tea leaves though, and she

1289
01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>has turned against her party and they're michigoths and she's

1290
01:24:56.239 --> 01:24:58.880
<v Speaker 1>going to pick up her marbles and go back to Georgia.

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01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:02.279
<v Speaker 1>And there is speculation she will be running for president.

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01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Bitch please Yeah, but ju Ju way now, because you

1293
01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:14.399
<v Speaker 1>know she knows that the leopards do at your face

1294
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:22.439
<v Speaker 1>and now they're aimed at her. Oh, I'm sorry. Right,

1295
01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>you've been account to us for all these years and

1296
01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>you weren't afraid then, right? It only took a couple

1297
01:25:31.279 --> 01:25:34.880
<v Speaker 1>of weeks against your own people to know they have

1298
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:40.319
<v Speaker 1>no limits. Nope, hmmm interesting right, anyway, that's why that

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01:25:40.800 --> 01:25:44.199
<v Speaker 1>belongs here. This has been your moment.

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01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:50.920
<v Speaker 5>Of employ people taking pleasure real name?

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01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Yay, I missed that so on the way out to

1302
01:25:55.680 --> 01:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the break And it has certainly been a minute since

1303
01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I asked this question. I should have been able to

1304
01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:06.359
<v Speaker 1>pick up just because I'm back. But anyway, do you

1305
01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>have a fifteen minute pap? Tell us about it.

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01:26:13.119 --> 01:26:19.600
<v Speaker 2>So we recently honored the one year anniversary of my

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01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:21.720
<v Speaker 2>brother in law John's passing.

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01:26:22.319 --> 01:26:22.399
<v Speaker 4>And.

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01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I was looking for this song that he loved that

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01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I also loved that I heard a lot growing up,

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01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:33.199
<v Speaker 2>but I had no idea how to begin to go

1312
01:26:33.319 --> 01:26:37.800
<v Speaker 2>about finding it. I went on a hunt, and luckily

1313
01:26:37.920 --> 01:26:41.600
<v Speaker 2>my sister, between me, her and context Clues were able

1314
01:26:41.640 --> 01:26:45.319
<v Speaker 2>to figure out what the song was. And I've been

1315
01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:48.800
<v Speaker 2>listening to it on and off since. It is by

1316
01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Willie Cologne and Reuben Blades and it is called Pedro

1317
01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:57.479
<v Speaker 2>Navaja and I just love this song. I've always loved

1318
01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:00.520
<v Speaker 2>it as a kid, and it's basically about this badass

1319
01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:04.600
<v Speaker 2>dude who walks around town and everybody the women want

1320
01:27:04.720 --> 01:27:06.399
<v Speaker 2>him and the men want to be like him.

1321
01:27:07.279 --> 01:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's bad, badly very brown.

1322
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:15.760
<v Speaker 2>He's banished something like that. So we're gonna go out

1323
01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:20.119
<v Speaker 2>to the break with Pedro Navaja by Willie Cologne and

1324
01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:21.039
<v Speaker 2>ruben blades.

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01:27:22.239 --> 01:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>And this is sir John. We'll be right back.

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01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:38.000
<v Speaker 6>Or let's quina del viko bars, los alam last man

1327
01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:39.560
<v Speaker 6>and los b.

1328
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Husn so Bredo.

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01:27:52.159 --> 01:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Manio loud di.

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01:27:56.439 --> 01:28:07.640
<v Speaker 6>Problem Salil Clintes, Oscurus, Parcenos da Mirando, undian tro kwandor

1331
01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:17.600
<v Speaker 6>reve Brian Doo comtres guadras, quina una muher parre coriento

1332
01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:24.399
<v Speaker 6>la sera and terra porquin traves jenu sagua tricedam trago

1333
01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:36.359
<v Speaker 6>parol vida Kelda stavloco in cleanesaravahar dasamuespaci to la venda

1334
01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:46.560
<v Speaker 6>no marcas perroto save Pedro Nava, las Manosi, predentro Gava

1335
01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:55.560
<v Speaker 6>viras onlo well Via brigard me andras Kamena pasa la

1336
01:28:55.640 --> 01:29:01.039
<v Speaker 6>vistas kina squina No seven alma is not easier.

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01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:12.520
<v Speaker 2>M h.

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01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:24.319
<v Speaker 4>M hm.

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01:29:29.640 --> 01:29:38.079
<v Speaker 1>And we are back. We're back, Okay, I haven't missed

1340
01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>this part. It's time for the cavalcave. Of nonsense, and

1341
01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:52.319
<v Speaker 1>boy is it hmmm. A trans man was harassed by

1342
01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>security and kicked out of the women's bathroom in Illinois.

1343
01:29:58.119 --> 01:30:01.399
<v Speaker 1>This is what y'all said you wanted, right, It's almost

1344
01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:03.119
<v Speaker 1>like what you really want is for us to not

1345
01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:08.319
<v Speaker 1>exist at all, really, because this keeps happening to butcher

1346
01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:11.119
<v Speaker 1>women too. Yeah, and some of them are you know,

1347
01:30:11.479 --> 01:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>sisht Yeah, and they just happened to, you know, be

1348
01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:18.119
<v Speaker 1>a little more masculine looking due to picos or you

1349
01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>know whatever. And they're getting fucked with two because people

1350
01:30:24.880 --> 01:30:29.279
<v Speaker 1>are crazy. A transman says security guards harassed and threatened

1351
01:30:29.359 --> 01:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>him with arrest while using the bathroom at an Illinois

1352
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:37.159
<v Speaker 1>arcade bar in September, alleging that one called him a

1353
01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:44.119
<v Speaker 1>danger to children. Y'all need to check who's a danger

1354
01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to children, because it is not us.

1355
01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:48.479
<v Speaker 2>Y'all are thinking of sis man, y'all.

1356
01:30:48.319 --> 01:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Are thinking of yep, you are. You are the ones

1357
01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>who are pointing their fingers are the ones you need

1358
01:30:55.039 --> 01:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to look at.

1359
01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I learned in the third grade when you point one finger,

1360
01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:00.079
<v Speaker 2>you got three point backage.

1361
01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Or you should. Yeah, it's going to happen more and

1362
01:31:06.560 --> 01:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>more often. I'm not going to belabor this, but it's

1363
01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:11.359
<v Speaker 1>that is going to happen more and more often. If

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01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you want to send me to the men's room, it's

1365
01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>going to be a riot. And likewise, how many trans

1366
01:31:18.319 --> 01:31:23.239
<v Speaker 1>room I pictured you want to send that dude? Okay,

1367
01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't go.

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01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Well that's been a a nd.

1369
01:31:25.720 --> 01:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>He'll kick your ass when you question him, because.

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01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:33.479
<v Speaker 2>That's becoming a growing movement on social media, these like

1371
01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:37.800
<v Speaker 2>burly ass trans men going, you want me in the

1372
01:31:37.880 --> 01:31:38.760
<v Speaker 2>women's restroom?

1373
01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I do not.

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01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I do not.

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01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>And they haven't thought any of this through. And you

1376
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>know what, the women the cis, women who are claiming

1377
01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>this is about protecting women and joining in with these

1378
01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:59.279
<v Speaker 1>yahoos deserve everything that's coming to them. Well, I'm sorry,

1379
01:31:59.319 --> 01:32:04.359
<v Speaker 1>but you're inviting it. You're inviting it. This is not feminism. Nope,

1380
01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you want to exclude us. You know you want to

1381
01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>say this is about protecting your children. You are not

1382
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:15.039
<v Speaker 1>protecting your fucking children because your husband's the problem. Yeah,

1383
01:32:15.199 --> 01:32:18.239
<v Speaker 1>check out the little league team he coaches. Well, and

1384
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:20.119
<v Speaker 1>stay the fuck out of my life, and I will

1385
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:22.439
<v Speaker 1>stay out of yours. I only go in there to

1386
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>pee and check my makeup.

1387
01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Damn it.

1388
01:32:25.479 --> 01:32:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Donald Trump's East Wing demolition trashes Eleanor Roosevelt's queer legacy.

1389
01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:38.039
<v Speaker 1>That's the headline. She held the first press conference by

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01:32:38.079 --> 01:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a first lady in the East Wing. It became a

1391
01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:46.640
<v Speaker 1>base for her activism. Yeah. Yeah, he's demolishing everything. Literally,

1392
01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:52.479
<v Speaker 1>he's stepping on everything that's good and worthy and worthwhile

1393
01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>because that's what he is and that is what his

1394
01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>legacy will be.

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01:32:57.520 --> 01:33:00.439
<v Speaker 2>If you give a pig a sledgehammer kind.

1396
01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:05.479
<v Speaker 1>Of kind of, it'll kiss a minor.

1397
01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Goddamn. Now would they burn that book?

1398
01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Nope? I mean maybe I don't know. Yeah. See, but

1399
01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>but the fact that queer people exist, that's the problem,

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01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>not y'all Jesus Christ. Anyway, Like we know what's happening.

1401
01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:35.439
<v Speaker 1>This is an article in The Advocate talking about you know,

1402
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:40.399
<v Speaker 1>it's awful. It's awful, disgraceful. You know, Betty Ford said

1403
01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of the East Wing. If the West Wing is the

1404
01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>mind of the nation, then the East Wing is the heart. Well,

1405
01:33:47.880 --> 01:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>he cut their heart out, which was expected. I mean

1406
01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:58.279
<v Speaker 1>he's he's imboldened. He's doing everything he kind of throttled before.

1407
01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a mess. The Olympics, in all of their courage,

1408
01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:10.399
<v Speaker 1>moved to band trans women. Oh yeah, and we're talking

1409
01:34:10.439 --> 01:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>about the really small numbers, right, and cis female athletes. Yeah,

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01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>with male levels of testosterone. Even if you come by

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01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it naturally, ladies, they don't want you. Yeah. The IOC

1412
01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:30.800
<v Speaker 1>head Kirsty Coventry previously said she would come up with

1413
01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:34.720
<v Speaker 1>new guidelines to protect the female category first and foremost.

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01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:38.359
<v Speaker 1>It was fine. It was protected, thank you very much.

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01:34:38.520 --> 01:34:44.079
<v Speaker 1>But okay, the International Olympic Committee, the IOC, is moving

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01:34:44.119 --> 01:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>toward a decision on whether trans women can compete in

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01:34:47.359 --> 01:34:56.199
<v Speaker 1>women's sports. Yeah. Just looking for the punchline because I'm

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01:34:56.439 --> 01:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>so sick of all this conversation. I mean, we knew

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01:35:01.319 --> 01:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>whe the goglins were. They were stringent before. We are

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01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>not dominating any goddamn sport. Pay attention, right. Yeah. In February,

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01:35:12.039 --> 01:35:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Trump signed an executive order prohibiting trans student athletes from

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01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:19.159
<v Speaker 1>participating in women's sports. Yes he did. Although the order

1423
01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:23.119
<v Speaker 1>mainly targets trans athletic competition at the KA twelve level,

1424
01:35:23.479 --> 01:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>it also orders representatives of major athletic bodies to promote

1425
01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>policies that are fair and safe, which they used to

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01:35:32.319 --> 01:35:35.760
<v Speaker 1>be in the best interests of female athletes. As we

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01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>just defined females and apparently they can have very much

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01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>testosterone consistent with the requirements of Title nine. Yeah. Sure.

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01:35:46.039 --> 01:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>The US Olympic and Paralympic Committee, the USOPC, and the

1430
01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>National Collegiate Athletic Association the NCAA barred trans women and

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01:35:56.840 --> 01:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>girls from women's sports, despite the order itself not carrying

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01:36:01.640 --> 01:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the power to mandate a unilateral man And what are

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01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>we talking about? Five people? Is it ten? Could it

1434
01:36:08.600 --> 01:36:12.319
<v Speaker 1>possibly be ten? What is the threat? And where are

1435
01:36:12.399 --> 01:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>these record holders that are just getting in the way

1436
01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:15.199
<v Speaker 1>of everyone?

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01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:15.640
<v Speaker 4>Right?

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01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Or is it that you mainly abenis? I'd like, I

1439
01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>don't even what the fuck? Seriously seriously, and who's complaining?

1440
01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:28.079
<v Speaker 1>There are gonna be women and this is gonna you know,

1441
01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna get hurt more, who's gonna who's gonna pay

1442
01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:38.279
<v Speaker 1>how many African yes women, oh yeah, happen to have

1443
01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah mm hmmm, two birds right, one stone.

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01:36:43.439 --> 01:36:45.680
<v Speaker 2>But my whole thing is, like, it's one thing when

1445
01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:49.560
<v Speaker 2>you talk about like the regular playing field of sports,

1446
01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:55.680
<v Speaker 2>where it's like these mediocre, like mediocre people complaining about

1447
01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:58.439
<v Speaker 2>unfair advantage, But it's the fucking Olympics.

1448
01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is.

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01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:03.680
<v Speaker 2>It is supposed to be any mediocrity. So if you're

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01:37:03.720 --> 01:37:05.720
<v Speaker 2>that big and bad, then it doesn't matter who's competing

1451
01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:06.119
<v Speaker 2>against you.

1452
01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:09.319
<v Speaker 1>And can I just say, is this really what matters

1453
01:37:09.359 --> 01:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>in the world? No, never did, never did, never did.

1454
01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Could all go away and everyone would be fine. Yeah,

1455
01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, let's keep doing this. Let's keep doing this.

1456
01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know, again, we're talking about a minute number

1457
01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>of people. There are over one thousand Jeffrey Epstein victims,

1458
01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>ding ding ding. How many of them did Trump fuck

1459
01:37:32.039 --> 01:37:34.479
<v Speaker 1>when they were thirteen and fourteen and fifteen years old?

1460
01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:36.439
<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about trans.

1461
01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:40.039
<v Speaker 2>As many as shy, as many as he could.

1462
01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, by the way, he commuted George Santos' sentence. Yeah,

1463
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:50.760
<v Speaker 1>so he's the one releasing criminals on the street people. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1464
01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:55.039
<v Speaker 1>including the insurrectionist that he pardoned. Yeah, brilliant, brilliant strategies

1465
01:37:55.239 --> 01:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>all the way around. Supreme Court is probably going to

1466
01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:03.199
<v Speaker 1>rule against conversion therapy ban, you know, because they keep saying,

1467
01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:06.359
<v Speaker 1>we're complating it with you know, the the aversion practices.

1468
01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:10.399
<v Speaker 1>We're also talking about talk therapy. Never in the history

1469
01:38:10.439 --> 01:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>of ever has any version of conversion therapy worked. Nope, Yes,

1470
01:38:14.680 --> 01:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>there are self living people who were taught to hate

1471
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>themselves yep, who think that they're going to a professional

1472
01:38:19.880 --> 01:38:23.079
<v Speaker 1>who can help them not be queer or trans and

1473
01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>it's never once worked. They delude themselves for a time

1474
01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>sometimes m hm, and start organizations like I don't know, exodus, Yeah,

1475
01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and then they wind up in a same sex relationship

1476
01:38:38.680 --> 01:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>apologizing for all the people who killed themselves at their hand.

1477
01:38:41.840 --> 01:38:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, that is what happens. It's

1478
01:38:43.760 --> 01:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>a cycle.

1479
01:38:44.439 --> 01:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>We know it.

1480
01:38:45.119 --> 01:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows it, and fuck the Supreme Court.

1481
01:38:48.079 --> 01:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>The only way conversion therapy quote unquote works is when

1482
01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:52.840
<v Speaker 2>the person kills themselves.

1483
01:38:54.520 --> 01:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, one less and I think that's how they

1484
01:38:57.000 --> 01:38:58.960
<v Speaker 1>look at it. I think that's how they must look

1485
01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:02.359
<v Speaker 1>at it. Well one get yeah, yep. People like is

1486
01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:08.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, working to tell the real story about conversion therapy.

1487
01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we watched a couple of the videos they were

1488
01:39:11.439 --> 01:39:12.319
<v Speaker 2>on their YouTube channel.

1489
01:39:12.399 --> 01:39:16.399
<v Speaker 1>They are releasing a short documentary refaming the debate in

1490
01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>human terms. They are short, like twelve minute films called

1491
01:39:22.119 --> 01:39:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I Changed My Mind. We did watch a couple of them.

1492
01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I think that look it up and give a few

1493
01:39:29.239 --> 01:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a listen. I mean, most of our listeners are just

1494
01:39:32.119 --> 01:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, cheer on the choir, but some

1495
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:39.439
<v Speaker 1>they are some of the stories of folks who were

1496
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:45.079
<v Speaker 1>steeped in religion and and you know, chose love instead.

1497
01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:47.000
<v Speaker 2>It's always better that way.

1498
01:39:47.159 --> 01:39:49.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know, by the way, Pray Away has been

1499
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:51.760
<v Speaker 1>out on Netflix for I don't know how many years now,

1500
01:39:52.399 --> 01:39:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Go watch it. Yeah, and I think it should be

1501
01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>required watching for the Supreme Court before they decide to

1502
01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>word rule about conversion therapy, because you know, we can't

1503
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:09.319
<v Speaker 1>even get what's his name this de sober? Oh yeah, Cavanal, Cavanal.

1504
01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's see what else. A woman was charged with a

1505
01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:21.439
<v Speaker 1>hate crime for spray painting a trans symbol near a

1506
01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Christian school. It's really happened. She was bullied at the

1507
01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>school as a kid, but parents of kids at the

1508
01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:32.119
<v Speaker 1>school say they thought the transsembol meant a school shooting

1509
01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>was coming. Really, really, did you? A woman was charged

1510
01:40:37.880 --> 01:40:41.159
<v Speaker 1>with a hate crime after she spray painted a transgender

1511
01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:45.439
<v Speaker 1>symbol near a Catholic elementary school in Maryland, and she

1512
01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>pleaded guilty to charges of defacing the property of a

1513
01:40:49.399 --> 01:40:54.279
<v Speaker 1>religious institution and malicious destruction of property, which are both misdemeanors.

1514
01:40:55.079 --> 01:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>She was accused of spray painting the combined male female symbol,

1515
01:41:00.840 --> 01:41:03.039
<v Speaker 1>which they wouldn't know what it is. I guess right,

1516
01:41:03.439 --> 01:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>But it meant that there was going to be a

1517
01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>school shooting really okay near the Saints Peter and Paul

1518
01:41:09.640 --> 01:41:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Elementary School in Easton, Maryland.

1519
01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:14.640
<v Speaker 2>These people need to pray for brains.

1520
01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Parents of kids in school claimed that it made

1521
01:41:20.039 --> 01:41:22.760
<v Speaker 1>them afraid because there was a school shooting in Minnesota

1522
01:41:22.880 --> 01:41:27.479
<v Speaker 1>in August that was allegedly carried out by a transgender person.

1523
01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Um most mass shooters again, oh, sis and heterosexual identified

1524
01:41:35.399 --> 01:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and men right not transfer But okay, yeah, be afraid,

1525
01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:43.319
<v Speaker 1>be very afraid. Dumb bitch is going.

1526
01:41:43.399 --> 01:41:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Dumb bitch.

1527
01:41:44.520 --> 01:41:47.479
<v Speaker 1>She's spray painted the symbol because she wanted people to

1528
01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:50.359
<v Speaker 1>know what it meant and to create a sense of

1529
01:41:50.439 --> 01:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>space for herself. Oh God, people don't know what stink

1530
01:41:55.640 --> 01:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>things through. She was arrested in charge with a hate

1531
01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:03.279
<v Speaker 1>crime against who. Again, if I wish they had to

1532
01:42:03.399 --> 01:42:05.520
<v Speaker 1>choke on irony, because then they would think about it.

1533
01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Marilynd's hate crimes statute includes the use of hate symbols,

1534
01:42:10.960 --> 01:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>which this is not, and lists newses and swastikas as

1535
01:42:17.119 --> 01:42:21.159
<v Speaker 1>examples of such symbols agreed. She was held in jail

1536
01:42:21.239 --> 01:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>with men without the possibility of bail, and denied access

1537
01:42:25.680 --> 01:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>to healthcare for two months. She was sentenced to time

1538
01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:36.720
<v Speaker 1>served and five years probation. The school's lawyer pushed for

1539
01:42:36.800 --> 01:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>her to be held without bail, of course, and then

1540
01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:44.399
<v Speaker 1>said that his severe response to the vandalism has nothing

1541
01:42:44.439 --> 01:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to do with the transgender identity. Oh yes it does.

1542
01:42:50.640 --> 01:42:54.119
<v Speaker 1>This was never about danger, her lawyer, Laurence Greenberg said,

1543
01:42:54.840 --> 01:42:56.479
<v Speaker 1>it was about discrimination, of course.

1544
01:42:56.520 --> 01:42:56.800
<v Speaker 2>It was.

1545
01:42:58.159 --> 01:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>That is not a hate symbol. That was not a

1546
01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>hit crime. I mean, if anything, was probably a cry

1547
01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>for help. But yeah, let's let's make sure we punish

1548
01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>her to the full extent of our fear so she

1549
01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't do that again.

1550
01:43:15.600 --> 01:43:18.720
<v Speaker 2>You know how, let me say, they better be glad

1551
01:43:19.039 --> 01:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>we want justice and that revenge. Yeah, keep fucking around,

1552
01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and you're not gonna be able to tell the difference.

1553
01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:31.159
<v Speaker 1>When mom Donnie won to what happened to Deborah Messy?

1554
01:43:34.079 --> 01:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>What what happened?

1555
01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:41.960
<v Speaker 2>It was? On election day, she posted something like ninety

1556
01:43:42.079 --> 01:43:48.279
<v Speaker 2>something memes and articles on her Instagram story.

1557
01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Essentially calling the new mayor a terrorist. If I'm yeah, wow,

1558
01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:56.720
<v Speaker 1>and this is this is before because he has Muslims, right,

1559
01:43:57.279 --> 01:43:59.199
<v Speaker 1>this is before he.

1560
01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Was even elected. This was that whole election day. There

1561
01:44:02.359 --> 01:44:08.359
<v Speaker 2>was several of those things were Islamophobic, a lot of

1562
01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:16.640
<v Speaker 2>things calling him anti Semitic, anti Israeli, a lot of

1563
01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:21.239
<v Speaker 2>pro Israel stuff, some racist shit, some pro Trump shit

1564
01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:23.560
<v Speaker 2>that like I'm not even sure if that's what she

1565
01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:25.479
<v Speaker 2>meant to do, but it was like.

1566
01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Girl, hmmm, girl, it was a lot. It was like

1567
01:44:33.319 --> 01:44:36.800
<v Speaker 1>crying and like sweating, and I was like, yeah, I

1568
01:44:36.920 --> 01:44:39.039
<v Speaker 1>was having a happy night. I didn't need to see that.

1569
01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't.

1570
01:44:40.079 --> 01:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like she's been in a couple of days afterwards.

1571
01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's I don't have to move now, progressively problematic

1572
01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:51.159
<v Speaker 2>over the past couple of years anyway, And she was

1573
01:44:51.239 --> 01:44:55.720
<v Speaker 2>on willing great, I know, dear God, It's like, I'm wondering, what.

1574
01:44:55.800 --> 01:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Does she think is going to happen? What does she

1575
01:44:58.039 --> 01:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna do.

1576
01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:03.039
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna put her on a train and take her

1577
01:45:03.079 --> 01:45:04.119
<v Speaker 2>to a camp directly?

1578
01:45:04.279 --> 01:45:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh honey, I think they're going to put me on

1579
01:45:06.039 --> 01:45:10.079
<v Speaker 1>one first. But he's not right, and I think you're

1580
01:45:10.119 --> 01:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty safe with him too. What the fuck?

1581
01:45:12.840 --> 01:45:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? She losing her rabbit ass mine and I used

1582
01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:19.800
<v Speaker 2>to have way more love and respect for her.

1583
01:45:20.159 --> 01:45:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I know, thoughts and prayers. I guess get some help.

1584
01:45:25.319 --> 01:45:28.720
<v Speaker 2>I hope she does, sincerely, Like, no, Shade, get some help.

1585
01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, speaking of gets some help. What the fuck is

1586
01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:37.399
<v Speaker 1>up with Nicki MINAJH girl? Where did she lose her mind?

1587
01:45:38.359 --> 01:45:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, she's been deteriorating the past few years. Drug use

1588
01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:44.680
<v Speaker 2>has been suspected.

1589
01:45:44.840 --> 01:45:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Mmm.

1590
01:45:46.359 --> 01:45:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Like she's been having mountdowns in real time on social media.

1591
01:45:51.079 --> 01:45:55.319
<v Speaker 2>But usually it was like every time another female rapper

1592
01:45:55.399 --> 01:45:58.399
<v Speaker 2>did anything good, usually Cardi B, she would mount down.

1593
01:46:00.399 --> 01:46:06.960
<v Speaker 2>But her rants have become transphobic, have come just more

1594
01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:10.560
<v Speaker 2>and more unhinged. And then recently she just straight up

1595
01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:12.199
<v Speaker 2>started supporting Donald Trump.

1596
01:46:13.239 --> 01:46:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no men and women's sports.

1597
01:46:16.399 --> 01:46:21.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, okay, if it weren't for the LGBTQ community,

1598
01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:23.840
<v Speaker 2>she would not have a fucking career. Let's start with that.

1599
01:46:24.199 --> 01:46:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, then let's make sure she doesn't. What the fuck.

1600
01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I hope her followers are going, what the fuck? Cause

1601
01:46:32.560 --> 01:46:33.199
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck?

1602
01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Exactly what you just said? Exactly?

1603
01:46:38.159 --> 01:46:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Wow?

1604
01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Like Cardi B even tweeted at her, she was like,

1605
01:46:44.680 --> 01:46:47.199
<v Speaker 2>I say this with love and respect. You need to

1606
01:46:47.239 --> 01:46:47.920
<v Speaker 2>go to therapy.

1607
01:46:48.199 --> 01:46:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1608
01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:51.880
<v Speaker 2>And stop doing drugs, stop letting the man that lives

1609
01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:53.680
<v Speaker 2>in your house spend all your money and keep you

1610
01:46:53.800 --> 01:46:56.399
<v Speaker 2>high all day because this is not working out for you.

1611
01:46:56.520 --> 01:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Says no shit. Good good for Cardi B Thank you

1612
01:47:01.359 --> 01:47:05.159
<v Speaker 1>to your God. Yeah, it makes it's making no sense

1613
01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:09.159
<v Speaker 1>and it's m it's messy.

1614
01:47:09.520 --> 01:47:11.319
<v Speaker 2>You know. I was just starting to get to the

1615
01:47:11.359 --> 01:47:13.319
<v Speaker 2>point where I was openly admitting that I liked her,

1616
01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:14.319
<v Speaker 2>and then she sucked it up.

1617
01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't like her. I'm done. I'm done. You know

1618
01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:23.640
<v Speaker 1>what I'm done. I'm done once you, once you I

1619
01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there was a bigger bet Middler

1620
01:47:27.399 --> 01:47:33.359
<v Speaker 1>fan than me right until until until I know. Yeah,

1621
01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:37.359
<v Speaker 1>and then she doubled down on her on her turf

1622
01:47:37.920 --> 01:47:44.159
<v Speaker 1>bullshit and uh yeah, broke my heart. And still don't

1623
01:47:44.199 --> 01:47:46.319
<v Speaker 1>care what she does at this point because you know

1624
01:47:46.439 --> 01:47:49.399
<v Speaker 1>what you did break my heart. Yeah, and what you

1625
01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>say matters to a whole lot of people, and you

1626
01:47:52.079 --> 01:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>don't give a fuck. Yeah.

1627
01:47:53.720 --> 01:47:54.960
<v Speaker 2>You can't unring that bell.

1628
01:47:55.199 --> 01:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>No, you really can't. And you have the chance to.

1629
01:47:58.399 --> 01:48:04.079
<v Speaker 1>You could have been gracious, you cut a rethought that ugliness,

1630
01:48:04.239 --> 01:48:08.319
<v Speaker 1>but you did not, you know, And it's sad, but

1631
01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:16.199
<v Speaker 1>once it happens. I can't stop seeing you, right, I can't.

1632
01:48:16.359 --> 01:48:20.399
<v Speaker 1>You showed your ass. We all saw it. Okay, now

1633
01:48:20.479 --> 01:48:24.319
<v Speaker 1>we know. I believe you the first time. Mother Maya

1634
01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:24.840
<v Speaker 1>taught me that.

1635
01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm still mad at Kanye. Well, it's like so

1636
01:48:29.680 --> 01:48:32.399
<v Speaker 2>many of his songs I've been wanting to listen to,

1637
01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:37.279
<v Speaker 2>but I can't because I can Well, no, I can't,

1638
01:48:37.279 --> 01:48:39.399
<v Speaker 2>because then he'll get money off the streams and I

1639
01:48:39.479 --> 01:48:42.600
<v Speaker 2>can't support that. And like I'll be putting shit on

1640
01:48:42.680 --> 01:48:45.239
<v Speaker 2>shuffle and one of his songs will come on and

1641
01:48:45.279 --> 01:48:47.560
<v Speaker 2>then I get mad and then I have to stop

1642
01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:49.600
<v Speaker 2>and I have to take the song out of my rotation.

1643
01:48:50.079 --> 01:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like, now you make an extra work for me. Well,

1644
01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:54.760
<v Speaker 2>that's true, it's you crazy.

1645
01:48:54.479 --> 01:48:57.079
<v Speaker 1>All right. Before we get any more angry and we're

1646
01:48:57.159 --> 01:48:59.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of veering already into pop culture, we're going to

1647
01:48:59.840 --> 01:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>take one more break and then we're going to come

1648
01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>back and we are going to pop the culture and

1649
01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>cleanse those bells.

1650
01:49:04.880 --> 01:49:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Hellolujah, we'll be right back, all right, be right back,

1651
01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:27.239
<v Speaker 3>and we're back.

1652
01:49:27.800 --> 01:49:28.800
<v Speaker 1>We're back.

1653
01:49:29.560 --> 01:49:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Cut.

1654
01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:35.520
<v Speaker 1>So we watched Eddie Murphy's documentary, Yes, Being Eddie. It

1655
01:49:35.640 --> 01:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was Being Eddie very good apart from the Dave Chappelle

1656
01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:40.079
<v Speaker 1>of it all.

1657
01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the thing. It was a really good, well

1658
01:49:43.319 --> 01:49:47.159
<v Speaker 2>done documentary, except for the fact that they insisted on

1659
01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:50.079
<v Speaker 2>including Dave Chappelle and Jerry Seinfeld a.

1660
01:49:50.119 --> 01:49:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Lot they did. Why do we not like Jerry?

1661
01:49:54.119 --> 01:49:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

1662
01:49:54.560 --> 01:49:55.680
<v Speaker 1>He did he do something?

1663
01:49:56.359 --> 01:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Comedians can't say anything anymore because woke it can't and

1664
01:50:00.359 --> 01:50:01.039
<v Speaker 2>cancel culture.

1665
01:50:01.119 --> 01:50:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Did he say that? Really? Huh? Didn't know that. I

1666
01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:10.479
<v Speaker 1>know what Dave Chappelle said. Anyway. Eddie Murphy interestingly talked

1667
01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>about Yule Brenner trying to proposition him for an encounter

1668
01:50:14.079 --> 01:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>with Yule and his wife.

1669
01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he didn't realize until he had it was home.

1670
01:50:19.560 --> 01:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, wait a minute, now, I wish

1671
01:50:21.039 --> 01:50:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I would have went and fucked his wife in front

1672
01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>of him, And yeah, that's a story. It would have

1673
01:50:25.680 --> 01:50:30.000
<v Speaker 1>been a story. It was worth watching. And he's kind

1674
01:50:30.039 --> 01:50:33.319
<v Speaker 1>of become very zen. We did see his retractable roof

1675
01:50:33.439 --> 01:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>close and yeah, but arguably a game changer. I mean

1676
01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:43.840
<v Speaker 1>arguably and so many levels. And you know the thing

1677
01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:48.359
<v Speaker 1>that I the little aha moment I had because I

1678
01:50:48.479 --> 01:50:51.640
<v Speaker 1>had never thought about it, but God knows, we've done it,

1679
01:50:51.640 --> 01:50:53.039
<v Speaker 1>and we do it to women. We do it to

1680
01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:58.920
<v Speaker 1>minorities was when they sort of talked about, you know,

1681
01:51:00.279 --> 01:51:03.880
<v Speaker 1>being the next Richard Pryor and Richard Pryor is still

1682
01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:08.399
<v Speaker 1>around and creating this sort of false sense of a

1683
01:51:08.560 --> 01:51:12.600
<v Speaker 1>feud or what have you. Because there can only be one,

1684
01:51:13.039 --> 01:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>right black comedian. There can only be one superstar. There

1685
01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:22.159
<v Speaker 1>can only be one. And I hadn't thought about that,

1686
01:51:22.680 --> 01:51:27.199
<v Speaker 1>hm and I went, God, damn, Well that is so manufactured.

1687
01:51:27.319 --> 01:51:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Why can't there be Why can't they both exist and

1688
01:51:30.560 --> 01:51:33.199
<v Speaker 1>be brilliant at the same time. Well, that's the same planet.

1689
01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Part of what initially started driving Nicki Minaj crazy. They

1690
01:51:36.640 --> 01:51:39.000
<v Speaker 2>were doing that shit with her. It's like, there can

1691
01:51:39.039 --> 01:51:42.199
<v Speaker 2>only be one female rapper who's successful. Then Cardi B

1692
01:51:42.359 --> 01:51:45.479
<v Speaker 2>came along and well first it was Lil Kim and

1693
01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:47.199
<v Speaker 2>then Nicki Minaj came along and they were like, oh,

1694
01:51:47.239 --> 01:51:48.960
<v Speaker 2>she's the next Little Kim. Then Cardi B came along,

1695
01:51:49.039 --> 01:51:50.079
<v Speaker 2>She's the next to Nicki Minaj.

1696
01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:53.319
<v Speaker 1>It's like, which we don't have to do, We don't

1697
01:51:53.479 --> 01:51:57.079
<v Speaker 1>and nor should we sit there and allow it. Addie

1698
01:51:57.159 --> 01:52:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Murphy didn't, right, but yeah, and we have done this

1699
01:52:01.159 --> 01:52:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to women for years, you know, like there's so many

1700
01:52:03.600 --> 01:52:06.359
<v Speaker 1>stories especially like in the nineteen fifties of the b

1701
01:52:06.520 --> 01:52:13.079
<v Speaker 1>actresses who didn't make it past that status, like Jane

1702
01:52:13.159 --> 01:52:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Mansfield because there was already Marilyn Monroe, et cetera. You know,

1703
01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:22.880
<v Speaker 1>we had one where she looked too much like X

1704
01:52:23.800 --> 01:52:26.319
<v Speaker 1>or yeah, well her style was too much like why

1705
01:52:26.840 --> 01:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>so we had the one. We couldn't have two.

1706
01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:36.600
<v Speaker 2>And then Robert Townsend touched on this as a joke

1707
01:52:36.680 --> 01:52:39.560
<v Speaker 2>in the movie Hollywood Shuffle, how like, if you wanted,

1708
01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:42.279
<v Speaker 2>if you were a black actor trying to like make it,

1709
01:52:43.039 --> 01:52:45.079
<v Speaker 2>you had to be like if they're looking for an

1710
01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Eddie Murphy type, you had to be that.

1711
01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:54.520
<v Speaker 1>But he rightly said, you know, I opened the door.

1712
01:52:54.760 --> 01:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>It's Trenzel. I opened the door for you know, it's

1713
01:52:58.000 --> 01:52:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a matrist. And he's right.

1714
01:53:00.399 --> 01:53:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Arguably, forty eight Hours was the original Buddy movie m

1715
01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:11.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like, look at how the formula like follows that,

1716
01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:19.119
<v Speaker 2>you know and the cool young black action starr. They

1717
01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:22.560
<v Speaker 2>tried to replicate it a couple of times, like they

1718
01:53:22.640 --> 01:53:25.800
<v Speaker 2>tried to do it with Carl Weather's action Jackson. They

1719
01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:28.600
<v Speaker 2>tried to do it a Whoopee Goldberg, But that also

1720
01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:30.000
<v Speaker 2>can be chalked up to they didn't know what the

1721
01:53:30.039 --> 01:53:30.760
<v Speaker 2>fuck to do with her.

1722
01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's true, but she did, okay, yo, one could

1723
01:53:35.760 --> 01:53:37.239
<v Speaker 1>easily say she founded me.

1724
01:53:37.479 --> 01:53:41.399
<v Speaker 2>She did. But like right after, like when she were

1725
01:53:41.479 --> 01:53:43.920
<v Speaker 2>first trying to like after Color Purple, they were trying

1726
01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:46.720
<v Speaker 2>to like find a way to like make her like

1727
01:53:46.840 --> 01:53:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the mainstream hit and like they tried it with over

1728
01:53:50.039 --> 01:53:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Here with Jumpin Jack Flash and like that was great

1729
01:53:53.119 --> 01:53:54.960
<v Speaker 2>but didn't do exactly what they were looking for. Then

1730
01:53:54.960 --> 01:53:56.520
<v Speaker 2>they tried to with Burglar and then that didn't work.

1731
01:53:56.520 --> 01:53:58.920
<v Speaker 2>They tried to with Fatal Beauty. That didn't work. They

1732
01:53:58.960 --> 01:54:00.760
<v Speaker 2>tried to make her an indie star Telephone and that

1733
01:54:00.920 --> 01:54:01.479
<v Speaker 2>was just horrible.

1734
01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Sister Act was okay.

1735
01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Sister Act was like when it that, that's the one

1736
01:54:06.760 --> 01:54:07.199
<v Speaker 2>that did it.

1737
01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Anyway worth seeing? I agree. It was a good watch.

1738
01:54:14.039 --> 01:54:19.319
<v Speaker 1>It was Netflix, right, I believe, Yeah, Netflix being Eddie right, Yes, yep,

1739
01:54:19.840 --> 01:54:23.920
<v Speaker 1>watch it. So MTV is shutting down, Oh yeah, all

1740
01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:25.680
<v Speaker 1>their music TV channels.

1741
01:54:25.880 --> 01:54:28.079
<v Speaker 2>It's officially the end of the era, like.

1742
01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:31.319
<v Speaker 1>MTV, like they're going to exist, but they won't be MTV.

1743
01:54:31.760 --> 01:54:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's well, I mean it's been that way for

1744
01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:39.000
<v Speaker 2>a while. It's been like nine reality no music videos.

1745
01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:40.680
<v Speaker 1>But remember when that's all it was.

1746
01:54:41.359 --> 01:54:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I Do to Real World was like the turning point

1747
01:54:44.119 --> 01:54:46.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, I know, what's this? What is this? Because

1748
01:54:47.479 --> 01:54:52.399
<v Speaker 2>music videos that's what MTV was. Yeah, I miss original

1749
01:54:52.479 --> 01:54:56.399
<v Speaker 2>recipe Real World? Do you I do well? Because like

1750
01:54:56.640 --> 01:55:00.399
<v Speaker 2>it was nothing like it but that and then like

1751
01:55:01.079 --> 01:55:05.840
<v Speaker 2>after that, once you know what it is, you're self

1752
01:55:05.920 --> 01:55:08.239
<v Speaker 2>aware and you start producing yourself and then it becomes

1753
01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:12.600
<v Speaker 2>what it became. But the originally was an experiment, like

1754
01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:17.239
<v Speaker 2>so rip the m in music and MTV.

1755
01:55:18.800 --> 01:55:26.199
<v Speaker 1>It's now TV taving so many things that we watched

1756
01:55:26.319 --> 01:55:28.479
<v Speaker 1>since the last time I record, I'll plow through it.

1757
01:55:29.039 --> 01:55:30.520
<v Speaker 2>I watched the ice Cube War.

1758
01:55:30.399 --> 01:55:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Of the World.

1759
01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:36.520
<v Speaker 2>It was horrible. Okay, I didn't know the whole thing

1760
01:55:36.560 --> 01:55:38.680
<v Speaker 2>took place on computer screens because it was done during

1761
01:55:38.760 --> 01:55:41.359
<v Speaker 2>the pandemic. So it was like, you know, if you

1762
01:55:41.520 --> 01:55:44.600
<v Speaker 2>work for the NSSA and so you're seeing the entire

1763
01:55:44.680 --> 01:55:47.840
<v Speaker 2>world via a computer screen, what was it looked like, child,

1764
01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:48.800
<v Speaker 2>don't do it to yourself.

1765
01:55:48.880 --> 01:55:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it looked like it was.

1766
01:55:49.840 --> 01:55:52.079
<v Speaker 2>It's spent eight it costs eighty three dollars to make.

1767
01:55:52.720 --> 01:55:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Not a recommendation. No Thursday Murder Club.

1768
01:55:55.880 --> 01:55:56.760
<v Speaker 2>That was fun.

1769
01:55:56.960 --> 01:55:59.039
<v Speaker 1>That was fun. And I want it to be like

1770
01:55:59.119 --> 01:56:02.439
<v Speaker 1>a series wanted to, you know, grow. It was good,

1771
01:56:03.359 --> 01:56:03.840
<v Speaker 1>well done.

1772
01:56:03.960 --> 01:56:08.720
<v Speaker 2>A bunch of older, intelligent folks in a high falutin

1773
01:56:09.199 --> 01:56:14.199
<v Speaker 2>retirement community. They have a little club where they get

1774
01:56:14.239 --> 01:56:17.760
<v Speaker 2>together and visit cold cases and see if they can

1775
01:56:17.840 --> 01:56:21.840
<v Speaker 2>solve it. And it got deeper than they anticipated.

1776
01:56:22.640 --> 01:56:23.119
<v Speaker 1>It was good.

1777
01:56:23.239 --> 01:56:24.000
<v Speaker 2>It was very good.

1778
01:56:24.079 --> 01:56:26.319
<v Speaker 1>It was good and I could see it. It was

1779
01:56:26.399 --> 01:56:28.399
<v Speaker 1>like a better only Murders in the Building.

1780
01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a whole season and that that I haven't

1781
01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:32.920
<v Speaker 2>even touched yet, I know.

1782
01:56:33.279 --> 01:56:37.039
<v Speaker 1>But I liked Netflix as well, right, I believe so.

1783
01:56:37.199 --> 01:56:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I think so absolutely worth watching as a movie and

1784
01:56:40.640 --> 01:56:43.039
<v Speaker 1>you'll see what we mean. It feels like it should

1785
01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:45.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, be your companion for.

1786
01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the cast was week Perce Brosnan. Was it Helen Mirren?

1787
01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, it was good.

1788
01:56:51.439 --> 01:56:52.000
<v Speaker 2>It was very good.

1789
01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:56.279
<v Speaker 1>It was good, good cast, great acting, good writing. It

1790
01:56:56.359 --> 01:57:00.359
<v Speaker 1>was It was definitely worth saying. That was a cathe recommendation. Yes,

1791
01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:03.039
<v Speaker 1>what the hell is? K Pop? Demon Hunters.

1792
01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Is got kids on a death grip. It's an animated

1793
01:57:10.359 --> 01:57:15.680
<v Speaker 2>movie on Netflix about this group of K pop singers

1794
01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:19.800
<v Speaker 2>who are also demon hunters and their job is to

1795
01:57:20.880 --> 01:57:24.039
<v Speaker 2>like there's a barrier that keeps the demons from Earth,

1796
01:57:24.319 --> 01:57:27.359
<v Speaker 2>and their music is what creates the vibrations, like with

1797
01:57:27.479 --> 01:57:29.600
<v Speaker 2>the fans. As long as the fans are happy with

1798
01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:32.960
<v Speaker 2>their music, then the barrier is strong. And so like

1799
01:57:33.039 --> 01:57:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the demons created their own K pop group to battle them,

1800
01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:40.680
<v Speaker 2>and like it was. I watched it because Lisa kept

1801
01:57:41.880 --> 01:57:44.760
<v Speaker 2>badgering me to watch it because she's obsessed with K pop,

1802
01:57:44.920 --> 01:57:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Like you gotta watch it, And it was actually fun

1803
01:57:47.520 --> 01:57:49.239
<v Speaker 2>and the music is great, like I've listened to the

1804
01:57:49.319 --> 01:57:53.920
<v Speaker 2>soundtrack like on my own. It's just good, Like it

1805
01:57:54.079 --> 01:57:57.600
<v Speaker 2>was fun K pop Demon Hunters. You're looking at me

1806
01:57:57.760 --> 01:58:00.319
<v Speaker 2>with this confused look on your face. It's like, what

1807
01:58:00.359 --> 01:58:01.399
<v Speaker 2>the fuck are you talking about?

1808
01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Is this why you still don't always pick up yourselves

1809
01:58:06.880 --> 01:58:09.239
<v Speaker 1>even after I threw most of them away?

1810
01:58:11.800 --> 01:58:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh slash, Yes, but yeah, like the stars of the

1811
01:58:19.760 --> 01:58:23.760
<v Speaker 2>the Voice actors have become like ridiculously famous on their

1812
01:58:23.760 --> 01:58:26.439
<v Speaker 2>own right, the songwriters have become ridiculously famous in their

1813
01:58:26.479 --> 01:58:27.840
<v Speaker 2>own right. It's great.

1814
01:58:28.560 --> 01:58:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't always understand y'all, and I don't have to,

1815
01:58:31.079 --> 01:58:31.560
<v Speaker 1>It's fine.

1816
01:58:33.079 --> 01:58:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I finally watched the movie Barbarian by the director who

1817
01:58:37.000 --> 01:58:41.640
<v Speaker 2>brought us Weapons, which I also saw Barbarian was a journey.

1818
01:58:43.039 --> 01:58:45.239
<v Speaker 2>It's a horror movie, so you'll never see it. But

1819
01:58:45.439 --> 01:58:49.479
<v Speaker 2>basically every time you think you know what's gonna happen next,

1820
01:58:49.760 --> 01:58:55.359
<v Speaker 2>no you don't. Not one time, was I right? Okay?

1821
01:58:56.239 --> 01:58:59.159
<v Speaker 1>So that was fun. Is that a recommendation, Yes, I

1822
01:58:59.319 --> 01:59:03.760
<v Speaker 1>recommend barbe Okay. The next one I made you watch

1823
01:59:04.520 --> 01:59:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Nonah's Nona's. It is such a sweet, sweet movie. Sonnah's

1824
01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:19.000
<v Speaker 1>is based on a true story about a restaurant in

1825
01:59:19.199 --> 01:59:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Staten Island where actual Italian grandmothers cooked the cuisine of

1826
01:59:25.640 --> 01:59:33.399
<v Speaker 1>their roots, and Vince Vaughan plays the man with the vision.

1827
01:59:34.439 --> 01:59:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Brenda Bagaro, who I have not seen in ages is

1828
01:59:37.880 --> 01:59:44.479
<v Speaker 1>one of the Nonahs. Lorraine Brocco and Italias Shire who

1829
01:59:44.680 --> 01:59:48.039
<v Speaker 1>I have not seen and I didn't recognize her the

1830
01:59:48.119 --> 01:59:53.239
<v Speaker 1>first time through from from from Godfather. They're the Nonah's

1831
01:59:53.560 --> 01:59:54.439
<v Speaker 1>in the movie.

1832
01:59:54.640 --> 01:59:59.560
<v Speaker 2>And Susan Saranda, Susan Sarandon, Tamny Pescatelli, well she was

1833
01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:04.920
<v Speaker 2>in it, but she was minor part. But Joe Imaginilow

1834
02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:06.199
<v Speaker 2>was in there.

1835
02:00:06.720 --> 02:00:08.600
<v Speaker 1>He was the best friend. I haven't seen him in

1836
02:00:08.600 --> 02:00:13.079
<v Speaker 1>a while, and sold his dad's fifty nine Plymouth fury

1837
02:00:13.880 --> 02:00:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to fund the restaurant, and then I believe Vince Vaughan

1838
02:00:16.760 --> 02:00:19.199
<v Speaker 1>got it back for him, right, But it was. It's

1839
02:00:19.239 --> 02:00:23.159
<v Speaker 1>a sweet movie. I love cooking movies. I love movies

1840
02:00:23.239 --> 02:00:26.239
<v Speaker 1>about food in the way food brings us together and

1841
02:00:26.319 --> 02:00:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the way the way we have sense memory. Yeah, you

1842
02:00:29.680 --> 02:00:31.840
<v Speaker 1>know the way, and you know because one of the

1843
02:00:31.960 --> 02:00:38.439
<v Speaker 1>storylines is Vince Vaughn trying to replicate the sauce his

1844
02:00:38.600 --> 02:00:41.600
<v Speaker 1>mother and his grandmother used to make every Sunday, and

1845
02:00:41.720 --> 02:00:45.199
<v Speaker 1>he can't quite figure it out, the sweetness in the sauce.

1846
02:00:45.479 --> 02:00:47.640
<v Speaker 1>He can't figure it out. And it's not sugar and

1847
02:00:47.720 --> 02:00:50.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not honey, and it's not maple syrup and any.

1848
02:00:51.000 --> 02:00:52.079
<v Speaker 2>And don't spoil it.

1849
02:00:52.600 --> 02:00:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to spoil it. But he finally figures

1850
02:00:54.720 --> 02:01:01.199
<v Speaker 1>it out and it's you know, there's so much, there's layers.

1851
02:01:01.840 --> 02:01:06.880
<v Speaker 1>It is just sweet and feel good. You found tried

1852
02:01:07.159 --> 02:01:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and I found the recipe and it's good made it

1853
02:01:09.960 --> 02:01:12.800
<v Speaker 1>It is good. It's it's I've seen it now at

1854
02:01:12.920 --> 02:01:16.279
<v Speaker 1>least three times, yeah, at least three times, and I

1855
02:01:16.439 --> 02:01:18.960
<v Speaker 1>love it. I love the movie. I love this story.

1856
02:01:18.960 --> 02:01:21.119
<v Speaker 1>I love that it's based on a real story. Maybe

1857
02:01:21.239 --> 02:01:25.239
<v Speaker 1>one day we'll eat there. But I love the idea

1858
02:01:25.439 --> 02:01:29.479
<v Speaker 1>of it, and it was just well told. Yeah, I

1859
02:01:29.600 --> 02:01:31.560
<v Speaker 1>love this. It's a Maretha movie right.

1860
02:01:31.520 --> 02:01:33.560
<v Speaker 2>There, it is a Martha movie. I love to see that.

1861
02:01:33.680 --> 02:01:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Owens got to got to be working as what

1862
02:01:37.279 --> 02:01:41.039
<v Speaker 2>he played, the health inspector, because like there was that

1863
02:01:41.159 --> 02:01:44.760
<v Speaker 2>time period where like he was not working in Hollywood.

1864
02:01:44.840 --> 02:01:48.039
<v Speaker 2>He for whatever reason, couldn't work in Hollywood, and he

1865
02:01:48.199 --> 02:01:52.800
<v Speaker 2>was spotted as a a bag boy in a Walmart

1866
02:01:52.880 --> 02:01:55.000
<v Speaker 2>or something, people trying to clown him for having a.

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02:01:55.119 --> 02:02:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Job job okay, known as highly recommen I believe that

1868
02:02:00.680 --> 02:02:03.159
<v Speaker 1>is also Netflix, right, yeah, this is why I'm here.

1869
02:02:03.359 --> 02:02:07.119
<v Speaker 1>We can't get rid of Netfox, despite how much I

1870
02:02:07.239 --> 02:02:10.800
<v Speaker 1>lose Dave Chappelle. No, no, it is worth the watch,

1871
02:02:11.199 --> 02:02:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes repeatedly, You're welcome. Yeah, so good. Yes, this other shit,

1872
02:02:17.880 --> 02:02:21.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I see a list of words. Oh, yes,

1873
02:02:21.239 --> 02:02:21.960
<v Speaker 1>there's words here.

1874
02:02:22.960 --> 02:02:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Swallowed. I happened the pond. It was under LGB.

1875
02:02:27.399 --> 02:02:28.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a movie.

1876
02:02:28.239 --> 02:02:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's like, uh, they call it a horror movie,

1877
02:02:32.479 --> 02:02:36.840
<v Speaker 2>but it's not really. But it's like this gay dude

1878
02:02:37.720 --> 02:02:42.079
<v Speaker 2>is leaving town to go via a porn star in California.

1879
02:02:42.159 --> 02:02:43.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we watched this together.

1880
02:02:44.439 --> 02:02:45.039
<v Speaker 2>No we didn't.

1881
02:02:45.159 --> 02:02:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes we did. Oh, yes we did.

1882
02:02:47.560 --> 02:02:49.079
<v Speaker 2>No, I watched it at work by myself.

1883
02:02:49.199 --> 02:02:52.239
<v Speaker 1>No, we watched this one together? Or I watched it separate?

1884
02:02:52.319 --> 02:02:53.399
<v Speaker 2>You watch it separately.

1885
02:02:53.640 --> 02:02:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I saw it with the bugs bugs.

1886
02:02:57.119 --> 02:02:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we didn't watch it together.

1887
02:02:59.239 --> 02:03:03.000
<v Speaker 1>He's going to California to be a Oh yeah with

1888
02:03:03.079 --> 02:03:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the bugs. Yes, that one.

1889
02:03:04.720 --> 02:03:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we watched it him and his friend.

1890
02:03:06.960 --> 02:03:09.960
<v Speaker 1>A lot of dick. No, you watched it. Told me

1891
02:03:10.039 --> 02:03:11.239
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of dick.

1892
02:03:11.119 --> 02:03:14.159
<v Speaker 2>And then you watched it, and there was a yeah,

1893
02:03:15.479 --> 02:03:16.880
<v Speaker 2>in no good way.

1894
02:03:17.079 --> 02:03:18.479
<v Speaker 1>Was there a lot of dick? But there was a

1895
02:03:18.560 --> 02:03:20.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of dock on the I didn't say. And it's

1896
02:03:20.359 --> 02:03:25.199
<v Speaker 1>good and hard dick, but yet yeah, unappealingly. So it

1897
02:03:25.319 --> 02:03:28.119
<v Speaker 1>was weird. It was a weird movie. It was not

1898
02:03:28.239 --> 02:03:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a me movie at all. I think I told you that,

1899
02:03:30.880 --> 02:03:37.520
<v Speaker 1>though you did, and I think I okay, dick and yeah,

1900
02:03:38.479 --> 02:03:41.079
<v Speaker 1>So what's your takeaway? Mine?

1901
02:03:41.239 --> 02:03:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Was I watched it? I don't. I'm not sorry I

1902
02:03:44.720 --> 02:03:48.279
<v Speaker 2>watched it. It's not bad, but it wasn't that great,

1903
02:03:49.600 --> 02:03:50.079
<v Speaker 2>all right.

1904
02:03:50.920 --> 02:03:55.720
<v Speaker 1>And there's definitely dick in it, but sometimes dick for

1905
02:03:55.960 --> 02:04:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Dick's sake is a miss a swing a miss.

1906
02:04:06.520 --> 02:04:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Title title next a stupid. For some reason, I've decided

1907
02:04:23.359 --> 02:04:25.920
<v Speaker 2>to torture myself by going back and watching Girls.

1908
02:04:26.680 --> 02:04:31.119
<v Speaker 1>I cannot imagine why, but okay, you did the Leah

1909
02:04:31.199 --> 02:04:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Donald she got me the first time, She'll never get me.

1910
02:04:34.399 --> 02:04:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, it was like I remember, like why did I

1911
02:04:36.319 --> 02:04:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I hated that show so much? And

1912
02:04:38.640 --> 02:04:41.079
<v Speaker 2>now I go back and I'm watching it, like, and part.

1913
02:04:40.960 --> 02:04:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Of everything I hate about being white is surmise, like

1914
02:04:44.520 --> 02:04:49.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of encapsulated in Girls. Yeah, every every time I go, oh.

1915
02:04:49.840 --> 02:04:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Jesus, yeah, they call the girls because dumb bitches wasn't

1916
02:04:54.319 --> 02:04:55.920
<v Speaker 2>as good enough title. I guess even though it was

1917
02:04:55.960 --> 02:04:56.560
<v Speaker 2>more accurate.

1918
02:04:56.640 --> 02:04:58.640
<v Speaker 1>That would be misasionist.

1919
02:04:59.439 --> 02:04:59.960
<v Speaker 2>And accurate.

1920
02:05:00.119 --> 02:05:01.239
<v Speaker 1>It kind.

1921
02:05:02.960 --> 02:05:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not calling them dumb bitches because they're girls.

1922
02:05:06.359 --> 02:05:09.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm calling me dumb bitches because they're dumb bitches. You know.

1923
02:05:12.279 --> 02:05:14.359
<v Speaker 1>The one thing I thought about was like, because I

1924
02:05:14.520 --> 02:05:17.920
<v Speaker 1>say often like I didn't. It's not like I want

1925
02:05:18.039 --> 02:05:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to be a I don't want to be a woman.

1926
02:05:19.920 --> 02:05:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I just am I just damn. And if

1927
02:05:23.600 --> 02:05:27.439
<v Speaker 1>you want proof of that, watch Girls. I don't want

1928
02:05:27.479 --> 02:05:30.119
<v Speaker 1>to be that any more than I want to be white.

1929
02:05:30.199 --> 02:05:32.079
<v Speaker 1>I love Oh my god, I don't think you could be.

1930
02:05:33.000 --> 02:05:35.319
<v Speaker 1>But but you see my point, it's like, you know

1931
02:05:35.399 --> 02:05:38.079
<v Speaker 1>what we are, what we are, and uh, this is

1932
02:05:38.239 --> 02:05:39.000
<v Speaker 1>white women.

1933
02:05:39.199 --> 02:05:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Or that I'm really just watching it for the sake

1934
02:05:42.399 --> 02:05:44.439
<v Speaker 2>of completion, because like I'm in for a penny, in

1935
02:05:44.560 --> 02:05:45.000
<v Speaker 2>for a pound.

1936
02:05:45.079 --> 02:05:46.359
<v Speaker 1>But I just don't know why.

1937
02:05:46.600 --> 02:05:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I just what.

1938
02:05:49.359 --> 02:05:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Made you? I don't know, you know what, here's a

1939
02:05:51.960 --> 02:05:52.479
<v Speaker 1>good idea.

1940
02:05:53.000 --> 02:05:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's something told me because it was

1941
02:05:55.760 --> 02:05:57.600
<v Speaker 2>such a hit, I'm like, let me let me know.

1942
02:05:57.720 --> 02:05:58.800
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't get through much of it.

1943
02:05:58.920 --> 02:05:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Try and watch it objective?

1944
02:06:00.479 --> 02:06:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Was it because people identified with it? Because I did not,

1945
02:06:03.600 --> 02:06:06.520
<v Speaker 1>And that was and that's where they lost me. Same

1946
02:06:06.640 --> 02:06:10.119
<v Speaker 1>with what's the one where they're all born on the

1947
02:06:10.199 --> 02:06:14.840
<v Speaker 1>same birthday and it's all like a big tear jerk,

1948
02:06:15.840 --> 02:06:19.680
<v Speaker 1>weekly tear jerk. It was like thirty something, Oh, this

1949
02:06:19.880 --> 02:06:23.159
<v Speaker 1>is us, yes, but no longer groundbreaking, this is us.

1950
02:06:23.399 --> 02:06:26.199
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get it. I think I got two thirds

1951
02:06:26.239 --> 02:06:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of the way through the first one and then went,

1952
02:06:28.279 --> 02:06:32.560
<v Speaker 1>no fucking watching this. There's no reason on God's earth

1953
02:06:32.600 --> 02:06:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I would watch this, and I never did.

1954
02:06:36.479 --> 02:06:39.640
<v Speaker 2>So I think I'm approaching girls academically, like I'm trying

1955
02:06:39.640 --> 02:06:41.359
<v Speaker 2>to figure out why was this popular.

1956
02:06:42.319 --> 02:06:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, no, I guess that's a that's a way

1957
02:06:45.720 --> 02:06:48.119
<v Speaker 1>to approach it. Because I couldn't figure it out and

1958
02:06:48.159 --> 02:06:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I stopped watching it. I guess I've found them insufferable.

1959
02:06:52.840 --> 02:06:54.760
<v Speaker 2>They are, But I guess if you're.

1960
02:06:54.640 --> 02:06:57.720
<v Speaker 1>A but I'm not entertained by the insufferable. If I

1961
02:06:57.760 --> 02:06:59.600
<v Speaker 1>want to see unsufferable people, all I have to do

1962
02:06:59.720 --> 02:07:01.159
<v Speaker 1>is go to work as a trans person.

1963
02:07:01.359 --> 02:07:03.920
<v Speaker 2>But I guess if you're a young, up and coming,

1964
02:07:04.800 --> 02:07:07.640
<v Speaker 2>self absorbed white girl who's trying to make a way

1965
02:07:07.760 --> 02:07:12.199
<v Speaker 2>for herself using your whiteness as a sword and shield,

1966
02:07:12.319 --> 02:07:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I guess it appeals to you.

1967
02:07:15.520 --> 02:07:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Huh maybe yeah, that's yeah. Okay, so academically you have

1968
02:07:22.520 --> 02:07:26.079
<v Speaker 1>been watching girls kind good on you. I'm not joining you.

1969
02:07:27.960 --> 02:07:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this next one either.

1970
02:07:29.439 --> 02:07:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I was listening to a podcast that analyzes horror movies

1971
02:07:32.960 --> 02:07:34.159
<v Speaker 2>that I love, and they were they were. One of

1972
02:07:34.199 --> 02:07:36.319
<v Speaker 2>the episodes was Deaf by Temptation, and I was like, oh,

1973
02:07:36.319 --> 02:07:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen that movie in a long time. And

1974
02:07:38.880 --> 02:07:45.119
<v Speaker 2>it was like, you know, foundational independent horror films not

1975
02:07:45.319 --> 02:07:50.159
<v Speaker 2>with death but deaf, deaf, d e F and right

1976
02:07:50.199 --> 02:07:54.720
<v Speaker 2>because it's an all black cast early nineties, and you

1977
02:07:54.800 --> 02:07:59.479
<v Speaker 2>know deaf is was this like deaf jam right? Okay,

1978
02:08:00.239 --> 02:08:05.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what death means like cool, like high

1979
02:08:05.560 --> 02:08:09.800
<v Speaker 2>quality dynamic? H Yo, that was deaf.

1980
02:08:12.479 --> 02:08:15.840
<v Speaker 1>It's dynamic by temptation. Huh.

1981
02:08:17.079 --> 02:08:19.159
<v Speaker 2>The title actually makes sense. It was really just to

1982
02:08:19.239 --> 02:08:20.159
<v Speaker 2>let you know that it's black.

1983
02:08:20.399 --> 02:08:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

1984
02:08:21.119 --> 02:08:27.319
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and and rewatching it like it was Actually

1985
02:08:27.319 --> 02:08:29.279
<v Speaker 2>it held up. You know, it was pretty good.

1986
02:08:29.359 --> 02:08:30.760
<v Speaker 1>It was well done.

1987
02:08:31.760 --> 02:08:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Let's see what else.

1988
02:08:32.560 --> 02:08:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

1989
02:08:32.720 --> 02:08:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I watched Weapons finally because it was available in streaming.

1990
02:08:35.680 --> 02:08:37.079
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to see it when it was in the theaters,

1991
02:08:37.079 --> 02:08:40.880
<v Speaker 2>but I missed it. And that movie is fun. Same

1992
02:08:40.960 --> 02:08:48.920
<v Speaker 2>director that did Barbarians, and it's a ride. I recommend Weapons.

1993
02:08:49.000 --> 02:08:52.720
<v Speaker 2>It was fun. It's not really scary, but it's definitely

1994
02:08:52.760 --> 02:08:53.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun.

1995
02:08:54.640 --> 02:08:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just over here.

1996
02:08:55.760 --> 02:09:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Every time you see children running, you should run the

1997
02:09:00.399 --> 02:09:05.119
<v Speaker 2>other way. I also watched The Substance finally. That movie

1998
02:09:06.880 --> 02:09:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Demi Moore earned her ask for now. Oh that's the

1999
02:09:10.720 --> 02:09:12.800
<v Speaker 2>one you were trying to describe to me. Yeah, but

2000
02:09:12.880 --> 02:09:15.439
<v Speaker 2>I never want to watch. It's a commentary on like

2001
02:09:16.560 --> 02:09:22.159
<v Speaker 2>women aging in the public eye. Yes, it's the tip

2002
02:09:22.239 --> 02:09:24.880
<v Speaker 2>of the Iceberg, Joe, but I loved it.

2003
02:09:25.439 --> 02:09:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, you mentioned and we watched we started rewatching,

2004
02:09:31.359 --> 02:09:34.800
<v Speaker 1>well not rewatching, but watching The Great British Baking Show.

2005
02:09:35.159 --> 02:09:37.279
<v Speaker 1>And once again I want to say, if you just

2006
02:09:37.399 --> 02:09:40.680
<v Speaker 1>want to watch something that's sweet and fun and wholesome, yeah,

2007
02:09:41.239 --> 02:09:45.239
<v Speaker 1>where they compete for a plate so they like help

2008
02:09:45.319 --> 02:09:50.399
<v Speaker 1>each other and it's just not American competition in any way,

2009
02:09:50.439 --> 02:09:53.880
<v Speaker 1>shape or form, and the oven doors are cool. The

2010
02:09:54.000 --> 02:09:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Great British Baking Show is like it's really good for

2011
02:09:58.159 --> 02:10:06.039
<v Speaker 1>mental health, right, you know, silly, fun, interesting. Yeah, you

2012
02:10:06.279 --> 02:10:10.079
<v Speaker 1>learn a little about crumb and what happens if you

2013
02:10:10.279 --> 02:10:15.560
<v Speaker 1>under or over bake and beck like you know, and

2014
02:10:15.960 --> 02:10:21.359
<v Speaker 1>just to say bake. Yeah, it's just yeah, and.

2015
02:10:21.439 --> 02:10:24.159
<v Speaker 2>You learn how many fucking accents there are in the UK.

2016
02:10:24.399 --> 02:10:30.640
<v Speaker 1>There really are, goddamn. But no, it's it's kind of

2017
02:10:30.920 --> 02:10:35.279
<v Speaker 1>just a nice little comforting show. It is. Yeah. I

2018
02:10:35.359 --> 02:10:37.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know what v HS series.

2019
02:10:38.079 --> 02:10:41.560
<v Speaker 2>There's a series of horror movies called VHS and they're

2020
02:10:41.640 --> 02:10:48.880
<v Speaker 2>all like like found footage, first person POV. And I'm

2021
02:10:49.239 --> 02:10:51.800
<v Speaker 2>enjoying it, like it's mostly trash, but.

2022
02:10:51.880 --> 02:10:56.479
<v Speaker 1>It is one fine mostly trash. Where is this found?

2023
02:10:56.960 --> 02:10:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh? All over various street I'm cobbling it together, the

2024
02:11:00.199 --> 02:11:01.399
<v Speaker 2>various streaming services.

2025
02:11:01.840 --> 02:11:05.199
<v Speaker 1>This is also about the socks, isn't it shut?

2026
02:11:06.279 --> 02:11:09.239
<v Speaker 2>But a couple of like each one has a couple

2027
02:11:09.319 --> 02:11:12.439
<v Speaker 2>of standout sequences that are really cool, and the rest

2028
02:11:12.479 --> 02:11:15.920
<v Speaker 2>of it is trash. But what was interesting to me

2029
02:11:16.159 --> 02:11:18.319
<v Speaker 2>was like, after I was watching it for a while,

2030
02:11:18.880 --> 02:11:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I had a moment of blurred reality because it's all

2031
02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:26.159
<v Speaker 2>like first person point of view, like in you know,

2032
02:11:26.279 --> 02:11:28.239
<v Speaker 2>you're running around the dark with just the light.

2033
02:11:28.600 --> 02:11:30.720
<v Speaker 1>And I'm familiar.

2034
02:11:32.159 --> 02:11:35.279
<v Speaker 2>A good portion of my job is running around the

2035
02:11:35.399 --> 02:11:37.600
<v Speaker 2>dark with just the light. And there was a couple

2036
02:11:37.640 --> 02:11:40.640
<v Speaker 2>of times, well, like I had that blurred reality where

2037
02:11:40.680 --> 02:11:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was still in the movie.

2038
02:11:41.960 --> 02:11:46.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, the job is the Blair Witch Project. No,

2039
02:11:46.880 --> 02:11:47.239
<v Speaker 1>it is that.

2040
02:11:49.199 --> 02:11:49.680
<v Speaker 2>It is that.

2041
02:11:50.840 --> 02:11:54.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, okay, so that's the thing. But you're also

2042
02:11:55.640 --> 02:12:01.760
<v Speaker 1>watching Yes, okay, Boots we did watch together. Okay, the

2043
02:12:02.439 --> 02:12:06.279
<v Speaker 1>fucked up thing about Boots us you put it on

2044
02:12:08.880 --> 02:12:13.399
<v Speaker 1>in like the middle of episode five for some reason.

2045
02:12:14.000 --> 02:12:15.000
<v Speaker 1>That's where it started.

2046
02:12:15.039 --> 02:12:16.079
<v Speaker 2>That's where it started for me.

2047
02:12:16.159 --> 02:12:21.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying we share our password, but and it

2048
02:12:21.319 --> 02:12:24.439
<v Speaker 1>made no goddamn sense, and I was of all the

2049
02:12:24.600 --> 02:12:27.359
<v Speaker 1>places in the world to start a show like it

2050
02:12:27.760 --> 02:12:32.000
<v Speaker 1>assumes we know these characters. It assumes so much, like

2051
02:12:32.039 --> 02:12:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I hate this, it makes no sense. It just assumes

2052
02:12:35.279 --> 02:12:39.960
<v Speaker 1>so much. I mean, it was it was oh god, yeah,

2053
02:12:40.199 --> 02:12:43.000
<v Speaker 1>it was a sterile white school teacher. It was awful,

2054
02:12:43.720 --> 02:12:48.039
<v Speaker 1>and it just assumed so. And then we realized we

2055
02:12:48.199 --> 02:12:52.920
<v Speaker 1>were We did not start at episode one at the beginning,

2056
02:12:54.000 --> 02:12:57.039
<v Speaker 1>so then we did that and it was so much better,

2057
02:12:57.159 --> 02:13:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and we actually enjoyed the series because it does build.

2058
02:13:01.720 --> 02:13:04.720
<v Speaker 1>It's one of those series that builds and you get

2059
02:13:04.760 --> 02:13:09.039
<v Speaker 1>to know the characters and you followed storyline, and then

2060
02:13:09.119 --> 02:13:11.239
<v Speaker 1>by the time you get to episode five, it made

2061
02:13:11.239 --> 02:13:15.920
<v Speaker 1>it so much more just interesting. You have to see

2062
02:13:15.960 --> 02:13:21.039
<v Speaker 1>one through four and a half otherwise it makes no

2063
02:13:21.159 --> 02:13:25.720
<v Speaker 1>goddamn sense and you get frustrated. It was good, it

2064
02:13:25.880 --> 02:13:27.760
<v Speaker 1>was good. It was good. I hope I actually hope

2065
02:13:27.800 --> 02:13:31.039
<v Speaker 1>there's another season. Yeah, it was, it was interesting, it

2066
02:13:31.159 --> 02:13:35.279
<v Speaker 1>was good. It was provocative, you know, mag I don't

2067
02:13:35.439 --> 02:13:38.359
<v Speaker 1>like it because they said it was woke. You know,

2068
02:13:38.439 --> 02:13:41.319
<v Speaker 1>it's about gay soldiers and fuck them, and that made

2069
02:13:41.359 --> 02:13:44.720
<v Speaker 1>me watch it harder. Exactly once we started it one,

2070
02:13:45.399 --> 02:13:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it worth seeing.

2071
02:13:46.720 --> 02:13:48.159
<v Speaker 2>That's what made me want to watch it. The fact

2072
02:13:48.199 --> 02:13:52.680
<v Speaker 2>that the also Netflix Depositive Defense was mad about it.

2073
02:13:52.960 --> 02:13:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Netflix, Yeah, it's worth seeing, absolutely worth seeing. Yes, layers,

2074
02:13:59.239 --> 02:14:05.640
<v Speaker 1>good writing, interesting characters, yeah yeah, Boots. Yeah, but started

2075
02:14:05.640 --> 02:14:08.920
<v Speaker 1>at episode one. Yeah. Better if you do, you'll thank

2076
02:14:09.039 --> 02:14:12.000
<v Speaker 1>me because I don't know how that happened. But that

2077
02:14:12.119 --> 02:14:14.960
<v Speaker 1>was fucked up. It's like, wow, that's the worst show ever.

2078
02:14:15.439 --> 02:14:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I hate this.

2079
02:14:19.960 --> 02:14:22.720
<v Speaker 1>See you lumped all of my shows together as if

2080
02:14:22.760 --> 02:14:23.560
<v Speaker 1>they don't matter.

2081
02:14:24.279 --> 02:14:27.279
<v Speaker 2>No, No, it's all of a theme.

2082
02:14:28.399 --> 02:14:31.640
<v Speaker 1>There is a theme, the theme being we watched too

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<v Speaker 1>much television that I have supported my goals in the

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<v Speaker 1>house with television, starting with Hoarders, and I did watch

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<v Speaker 1>several seasons supporters. Some of it traumatic, of course, you

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<v Speaker 1>know some of it My mother was My mother was

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<v Speaker 1>a clean hoarder, but she was a hoarder. Started with Hoarders,

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<v Speaker 1>moved on to Marie Condo, Yes, and others about cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>and organizing and you know, saying goodbye to things and

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<v Speaker 1>thanking them for their service and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing about Hoarders was every time we got

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<v Speaker 2>to a commercial break, you've got.

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<v Speaker 1>Up in like away. Yes, it was very motivating, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's been the theme that is the overall theme and

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<v Speaker 1>watching home improvement shows, Hometown, Bargain Block, yes, all these others,

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<v Speaker 1>like I binge them until they're done. I felt kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bad for the boys on Bargain Block. They just disappeared,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, like season five, they just stopped mid season.

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<v Speaker 2>No more money for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you were researching that? What the hell happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>They Tathen Evan Evan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, HGTV just pulled the plug on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like they finally had a gay couple and they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing cool shit. They were like rehabbing Detroit Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>and selling at reasonable prices to first time home buyers.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a very altruistic and lovely and cute. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Keith was a pain in the s and he did

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<v Speaker 1>over the top shit. But they had a mission with

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<v Speaker 1>Shay as their realtor, you know, obligatory, funny black friend

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever. It was good and they built like this

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<v Speaker 1>whole It was also a smart realtor. Yes, but apparently

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes something happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It's never been made exactly clear what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It stopped mid season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just there was a disagreement between them and HGTV

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<v Speaker 2>and HGGGV pulled the plug in the middle of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably said, you are not paying us near enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and HGTV said, watch what happens when we pay you

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<v Speaker 1>nothing exactly, because that's what happens when queer people speak up.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But like their business and Shay's business were all

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<v Speaker 2>like very tied into the show. So when the show

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<v Speaker 2>went away, it's like they had nothing right. So, I like,

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<v Speaker 2>none of their websites have been updated in months.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a shame. Yeah, I mean it's still helped me

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<v Speaker 1>keep moving. Yeah, I've come up with some interesting ideas, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>watching it because I am I'm dead set into again cleaning, organizing,

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<v Speaker 1>not big a hoarder, and completing these projects on a budget. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's all been motivating.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say the order that we watch things made

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<v Speaker 2>a huge difference because we were watching hoarders and watching

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<v Speaker 2>these people like their goal is to like not have

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<v Speaker 2>their house taken away from them. They don't get their

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<v Speaker 2>shit together. And then when that was done, we started

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<v Speaker 2>watching the home improvement shows and people having budgets of one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 2>four or five hundred thousand dollars, And then you tried

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and watch an episode of Holders, and

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't go backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, no, no, I you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>my my, my loose theme idea where I've been living.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now. It is making room, you know, making room

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<v Speaker 1>for change, making room for what comes next, considering the

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<v Speaker 1>things that we keep. I mean, when you look around

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<v Speaker 1>at how many storage facilities, like it's a business storing

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<v Speaker 1>the shit that doesn't fit in your house as a

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<v Speaker 1>literal business model, something's wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We have way too much stuff, right, and for all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of reasons, and I am guilty of. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we moved from my Philadelphia house to Above the Bar,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not a pleasant move. It was a necessary one.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of stuff I wasn't willing to

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<v Speaker 1>part with, and you know, so I packed things that

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<v Speaker 1>in my right mind I would have gotten rid of,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of that stuff I'm just unpacking now here.

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<v Speaker 1>Years later, You're like, oh, I do own that, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't know even why I packed it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in multiples of things and things that were sentimental to

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<v Speaker 1>this house but that I don't care about. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>able to say I don't care about that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and move forward. So it's been good, it's been cathartic.

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<v Speaker 1>We're stinning the possessions and trying to make sense of

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<v Speaker 1>what we do have, you know. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that came out of all of those shows was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you shouldn't be storing more than you have

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<v Speaker 1>the room to store things, right right, whatever you keep

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<v Speaker 1>should fit within whatever your alloted storage space might be. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>And I agree, makes sense, yeah, because we keep way

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<v Speaker 1>too much shit, like, take a picture of it and

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of it, right, you know, unless you love it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really really love it, then that's the justification

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<v Speaker 1>for holding on to it. There was also what was

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<v Speaker 1>it The Gentle Art of Death Cleaning Swedish death cleaning,

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<v Speaker 1>Swedish death cleaning, and that was that was lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm mad that that show didn't have more episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that great. It was really good and it

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<v Speaker 1>was about you know, how we keep things and what

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<v Speaker 1>do we keep and can we pass things on now

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<v Speaker 1>along with the stories that go with the items and

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<v Speaker 1>the generations, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Not leaving a huge mass behind right for people after you.

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<v Speaker 1>Go like my parents did, right, not leaving all of

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<v Speaker 1>that behind, but having dealt with it, but dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>it in thoughtful and lovely ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, passing along the things that you want passed along

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<v Speaker 2>with the actual intention being made own to the people.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're being rhyme, reason and purpose to what you keep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was nice. They made like different boxes, like

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<v Speaker 1>gift boxes with the story of why this item is

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<v Speaker 1>in the box, and it was it was so lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely worth watching. I forget where we found it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's Hulu or something, but the gentle art of

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<v Speaker 1>Swedish death cleaning.

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<v Speaker 2>And we learned a word that we used to this day, fika.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I'll be bright, yes, fika at which they

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<v Speaker 1>take every episode. Yes, that's been the theme that's been

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<v Speaker 1>where I've you know, there has been actual reason for

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been watching, and it has helped inform, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for the next chapter, getting ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever comes next in the new year, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maintaining my energy for all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I all already have going on. Yeah, and the house

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<v Speaker 1>is getting better. We're finally finishing jobs that needed to

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<v Speaker 1>man for a long time exactly. Yeah, So as we

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<v Speaker 1>enter this, it is Thanksgiving week in two days, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>made up holiday, but whatever. A lot to be thankful for, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to be thankful. We will have a small

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<v Speaker 1>dinner which Kathy has mostly catered with some homemade stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and that'll be nice. It'll be nice. Yeah, I'm grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of things. It's been an interesting ride

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<v Speaker 1>since September. I'm really happy to be back on the microphone.

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<v Speaker 5>Yay.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks and you we're gonna keep doing this on the

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<v Speaker 1>regular now because.

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<v Speaker 2>You know we're back, hallelujah.

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<v Speaker 1>How about some podcast business, Yeah, let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed it, so while we're back. You have been

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