Speaker 1: Coming to you from the dining room table at East
Speaker 1: Barbary Lane. Welcome to a new episode of Full Circle
Speaker 1: the Podcast. A visit to our home where we squeeze
Speaker 1: a few headlines through our decidedly queer lens and see
Speaker 1: what happens. This episode is brought to you once again
Speaker 1: by Decanted Jugwine and my return to the mic after
Speaker 1: a three month hiatus. Oh my goodness, and four months
Speaker 1: without a cigarette. I have missed being here. I am
Speaker 1: your host Charles Tyson Junior, and I'm your host Martha Madrigal.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Full Circle Table. I should say welcome
Speaker 1: back to the Full Circle Table.
Speaker 2: At least for me, I was gonna say, I've been here.
Speaker 1: You've been holding it down. Yeah, there's no question you
Speaker 1: have been holding things. So much has happened. We last
Speaker 1: recorded right at the end of August. About two weeks later,
Speaker 1: I left my job. Yeah, I was invited to leave
Speaker 1: my job, which is a whole story. Don't work for
Speaker 1: CIS people. If you happen to be trans it doesn't
Speaker 1: often does not end well, especially when they're trumpers. That part, yeah,
Speaker 1: so tried to have that not get in the way,
Speaker 1: and yet you know it always does. Yeah, but I've
Speaker 1: been nesting.
Speaker 2: You've been nesting hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did quit smoking on July twenty fifth, and
Speaker 1: I have not had a cigarette since then.
Speaker 2: Congratulations.
Speaker 1: I have had my little vape now and again, but
Speaker 1: that's okay. I don't inhale, so maybe I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: breathing much better. I'm not coughing, I'm not hacking. I'm
Speaker 1: not you know. So you know I love that. I'm
Speaker 1: going to say it's better. It is better. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it doesn't stink up the house.
Speaker 2: And your energy level has improved.
Speaker 1: Oh god, you well, not working helps too. Well, there's
Speaker 1: that I've been baking. You've been baking in like a
Speaker 1: lot of bread, painting and painting and well every project
Speaker 1: that I mean, the story of us moving into this
Speaker 1: house was interesting. And you know, we had we got
Speaker 1: our hardwood floors refinished and thank god, before we moved
Speaker 1: anything in, and then we were trying to paint everything.
Speaker 1: And when I called a moving company, they had had
Speaker 1: a cancelation. And I want to say I called in
Speaker 1: December and it was like January twenty first or June right,
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, well, June right. So we
Speaker 1: scurried to get ready and to finish packing and to
Speaker 1: get you know, and to do all that, and we
Speaker 1: had to pivot and we did not get to finish painting.
Speaker 1: And we had rooms in various stages of finished. Truth.
Speaker 1: Some of them I've slowly gotten done. Some of them
Speaker 1: haven't been touched. So I'm touching them.
Speaker 2: Yes you are.
Speaker 1: I am good touch. I'm finishing. I started in the
Speaker 1: laundry room because that's right there at the back door.
Speaker 1: Then I'm working my way through. The kitchen is looking good.
Speaker 1: The kitchen, I've been cleaning in the basement to kind
Speaker 1: of get things organized so I know where stuff is.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm nesting. I've had a couple of people,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of contacted me about working and I'm like, cold,
Speaker 1: we tuk in January, maybe right February. But it's been good.
Speaker 1: And it's been and if one more person says you
Speaker 1: look so arrested, I'm like, how stressed did I look?
Speaker 1: Because I didn't realize I was. I mean, I actually
Speaker 1: loved my job.
Speaker 2: Well you did, and you took it very seriously and
Speaker 2: you were do it hard at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I really did. Have you know, a
Speaker 1: run in with one person and you know, I pushed
Speaker 1: my luck there for almost three years. Just get I
Speaker 1: don't keep my mouth shut and I don't compromise, and
Speaker 1: it was a very challenging environment where it was impossible
Speaker 1: to do the job exactly correctly. And you cannot cut
Speaker 1: a corner and betrayance. So I will say that that's
Speaker 1: a shirt.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you cannot cut a corner and betran We.
Speaker 1: There are different rules, I promise you. So it is
Speaker 1: what it is, right, and so much has been happening,
Speaker 1: but that was part of it. Part of it was
Speaker 1: losing the job and just kind of figuring all that
Speaker 1: out and getting my feet back under me a little bit.
Speaker 1: I wasn't devastating. I kind of was like, well, what's next, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, okay. The hard part and the ego stroking
Speaker 1: part has been the clients that I miss so much.
Speaker 1: And pretty much every one of them has reached out
Speaker 1: to me in one way or another, and they come
Speaker 1: to our monthly dinners or they join us on our
Speaker 1: Thursday evening calls, and so I am still in touch
Speaker 1: with them. It's just, you know, we were doing really
Speaker 1: good work together and that hurts. Yeah, that hurts, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's not going that way now.
Speaker 2: But the way the universe worked, like right as you
Speaker 2: were leaving your job, you received not one, but two awards.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that happened in rapid succession. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: on October Thursday, Joey Pirella and I were honored Friend
Speaker 1: of the Pod by Garden State Equality. Joey and I
Speaker 1: do the monthly spaghetti dinners together, and Garden State Equality
Speaker 1: gave us a Inequality and Motion Award, as I guess,
Speaker 1: community Partners, activists whatever, specifically for the dinners. And then
Speaker 1: a week later, so October tenth, I believe, Yeah, Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Gay News named Elizabeth and I as two of the
Speaker 1: forty nine most influential leaders in the LGBT community.
Speaker 2: I believe they referred to as a trans rites warrior.
Speaker 2: That is, yes, that's what the plaque says. I got
Speaker 2: two plaques in October.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The timing was interesting because I knew about the
Speaker 1: PGN one and then I got the text about the
Speaker 1: Garden State Equality one, and I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: My favorite moment was when I was getting ready and
Speaker 2: I was like, now, wait, which award is.
Speaker 1: This that you're getting today? You know?
Speaker 2: Right? Right?
Speaker 1: It was? It was fun. It was good. It was
Speaker 1: I mean, it's humbling and gratifying and it was lovely,
Speaker 1: really truly. There were you know, two ceremonies and they
Speaker 1: were both really nice and I'm very grateful. Yeah and yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's the juxtaposition of those things happening pretty much
Speaker 1: at the same time, within a couple of weeks of
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what's helped you. It's you never
Speaker 2: had to have that moment where you didn't know who
Speaker 2: you were.
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't forget that anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, that's good.
Speaker 1: And you know, the award from PGN was really, I
Speaker 1: believe centered around we. You know, we picked up the
Speaker 1: support group that Elizabeth and I facilitate and moved it basically,
Speaker 1: you know, we started our own situation and you know,
Speaker 1: our active membership moved right along with us. So that
Speaker 1: was important and that work continues. And then the dinner,
Speaker 1: which I was allowed, you know, was under the auspices
Speaker 1: of my employer because they provided the space. I said,
Speaker 1: that's mine. And what did I have ten days if
Speaker 1: that to find a new location let people know, and
Speaker 1: we did. We did not skip a month if I
Speaker 1: had to cook spaghetti here and have everyone here at
Speaker 1: the house. I would have just to not have a gap.
Speaker 2: I have no idea how the hell that would have worked.
Speaker 1: It would have been tight. But you know, we found
Speaker 1: a new location right in Collins. Would it's even more
Speaker 1: convenient than anything else we've ever had because it's you know,
Speaker 1: the train is right there, so it's accessible to a
Speaker 1: lot more people. We've had record crowds. We had fifty
Speaker 1: five people show up for the dinner again with a
Speaker 1: week's notice or whatever.
Speaker 2: Well, the humorous part for me was when your your
Speaker 2: job was like, but what are we going to do
Speaker 2: about the dinner? And you like, who we?
Speaker 1: Who is this we? There is no we anymore. You
Speaker 1: just took my bad work. Yeah, and and that's that's
Speaker 1: just that. There's so much more I could say, but
Speaker 1: I won't. You know, it's been it's been interesting. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's been enough has gotten back to me that you know, Uh,
Speaker 1: they're scrambling a lot and good.
Speaker 2: Well, when it takes eight people to do the job
Speaker 2: of one person and they only.
Speaker 1: Have two, it's it's beyond that. I mean, my colleagues,
Speaker 1: I've heard from all of the colleagues that I worked
Speaker 1: closely with with a lot of support, and that's also
Speaker 1: been amazing. So I again, it's it's really a situation
Speaker 1: of something more and different is happening and com and
Speaker 1: it's what's next, indeed, And so the next logical thing
Speaker 1: was let's make room for that, because you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's weighed heavily on me that this house is still
Speaker 1: not organized the way I need it to be organized.
Speaker 1: Like we're still not there, right and well, the contents
Speaker 1: of my office are still sitting in a pile in
Speaker 1: the living room, and I don't I need to know
Speaker 1: where my stuff is and I need to put away.
Speaker 1: And so we're getting there and put what you want
Speaker 1: room by room and making lots of donations in the
Speaker 1: process and having some pretty big bulk trash day. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I installed a toilet upstairs. I haven't just been you know.
Speaker 2: You've been leaning into the Martha of it all.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah right, the butcher Martha of it all.
Speaker 1: I know, Martha. Yeah yeah, Well because the toilet started
Speaker 1: leaking upstairs and that's not good. Yeah, so we stopped
Speaker 1: and did that.
Speaker 2: But you also made it. And this is the part
Speaker 2: I love you. You rolled up your sleeves and put
Speaker 2: on your your your butcher girl draws and and and
Speaker 2: went to fix the toilet, but you made sure that
Speaker 2: the new toilet was cute.
Speaker 1: It is cute.
Speaker 2: The dichotomy is the important thing.
Speaker 1: I love that they make things now that they just
Speaker 1: didn't used to make, right. And one of them is
Speaker 1: this toilet that I bought because the upstairs bathroom is
Speaker 1: shall we say, compact, and.
Speaker 2: Especially if you're tall.
Speaker 1: If you are tall, you were somewhat inclined to sit
Speaker 1: side saddle because your knees hit the wall in front
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 2: A picture of you're sitting there with your legs crossed
Speaker 2: and an umbrella.
Speaker 1: I used to wonder, like how do you fix that?
Speaker 1: You know, like do you have to move the whole
Speaker 1: arrangement in the floor and get a corner toilet? Like
Speaker 1: how do you fix that? And now they make these
Speaker 1: smaller compact toilets that are only like twenty four inches
Speaker 1: from the wall, and it solved the problem, yep. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a little bit more money, but not hideously so.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I think it was two hundred instead
Speaker 1: of one hundred for the really cheap one, but.
Speaker 3: A fun size toilet, it's yeah, but it does the job.
Speaker 1: Completely and it has the little you know, dual flush
Speaker 1: and it's a water savor and all that, and it's cute.
Speaker 1: It is cute. It matches the cute little sink that
Speaker 1: I put up there last year. Now I'm loving it.
Speaker 1: That was a fun day too because I had Tory
Speaker 1: over here, a trans lesbian with a tool belt, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we did that together, the sink, and we did the
Speaker 1: dishwasher together too, installed the new just new, the new
Speaker 1: to us dishwasher.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, that's the thing. It's like, if you have
Speaker 2: trans girls working for you, you're going to end up on top.
Speaker 2: If you have lesbians working for you, you're going to end.
Speaker 1: Up on top, and trans beions forget.
Speaker 2: If you have trans lesbians chaw you could change the world.
Speaker 1: It's true what we are exactly we are. We I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think. Last week was Trans Day of Remembrance,
Speaker 1: which is November twentieth, and my dear darling, Elizabeth and
Speaker 1: I had a conversation at the Unitarian Church not far
Speaker 1: from us and for their vigil and service, and we
Speaker 1: recorded it so maybe we'll maybe that'll get released, oh
Speaker 1: shared when we can. Beds. I think it's about fifty
Speaker 1: minutes long. But it was really just a conversation between
Speaker 1: two old trans worlds basically and good from what I hear,
Speaker 1: I was kind of in the moment. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: to listen to it. That happened, So I'm still out there.
Speaker 1: We just had our third spaghetti dinner in our new
Speaker 1: spot this past Sunday. It was successful. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we have not had fewer than what forty five since
Speaker 1: we changed locations, so actually we're seeing more people than ever,
Speaker 1: and it's been new faces every time, and we're always
Speaker 1: seeing new faces and it's just an important thing. And
Speaker 1: then you know P Flag last night again a couple
Speaker 1: of new faces and those things. All of it kind
Speaker 1: of intertwines.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I have many of the same people that come to
Speaker 1: P Flag that also come to the dinner. Several of
Speaker 1: them are part of Transformation Collective, which is our group,
Speaker 1: and that is also now the umbrella for the dinners,
Speaker 1: and we have a five O one say three sponsor
Speaker 1: and we're doing all those things, doing the they doing
Speaker 1: this things. Yeah, so we kept it going and it
Speaker 1: has continued to grow and it's really important. Community building
Speaker 1: could not be more important than it is right now. Agreed, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then in terms of the show, like, since you've
Speaker 2: been on your unofficial.
Speaker 1: Hiatus, we do want to record. Now I'm scripting Paint.
Speaker 2: We've had a couple of really cool interviews. We spoke
Speaker 2: to doctor Alfred L. Martin, good friend of the pod
Speaker 2: and friend in real life, and we talked about his
Speaker 2: book about black fandoms, a book that I was in
Speaker 2: ye or that I am in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you still are, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because there's a section about black fandom among the Golden Girls.
Speaker 2: Lord knows that's me. And then I spoke to Olivi
Speaker 2: Blake about her book Girl Dinner the Cannibal Sorority.
Speaker 1: Yes, fun, it was fun.
Speaker 2: And then you know, I've been just to keep our
Speaker 2: audience engaged, our new listeners and our returning listeners, just
Speaker 2: to let y'all know we're still there for you. I've
Speaker 2: been re broadcasting some past interviews from notable figures.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I love that. It's kind of like the
Speaker 1: greatest hits. We've been playing those and now we actually
Speaker 1: have an audience to hear them, so.
Speaker 2: Exactly like you know the fact you just came along.
Speaker 1: You may not have gone back that far in the archives.
Speaker 2: Right, We've got one hundred and fifty plus episodes for
Speaker 2: you to check out. And you know, the catalog is formidable.
Speaker 1: And you know, things have been happening so rapid fire,
Speaker 1: and it's all so bizarre and so insane that discussing
Speaker 1: it even was for my own mental health and well
Speaker 1: being just something I needed to kind of not do
Speaker 1: for a bit. And I get that. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: just not think about it, not talk about it, not
Speaker 1: you know, comb through it and decided like, hey, what
Speaker 1: did we talk about this week? I needed that break.
Speaker 2: Right, and we can ease our way into it with
Speaker 2: this episode.
Speaker 1: We are, Yeah, yeah, we are because we have a
Speaker 1: lot to cover.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this list is long. I've been going through it
Speaker 2: and be like, well, that ain't even news no more.
Speaker 3: Neither is that.
Speaker 1: Right? Some of the trash took itself out, you know,
Speaker 1: like things do resolve and there's some great good news
Speaker 1: that is happening, you know, So again, don't just read
Speaker 1: the headlines. You got to get past that. You got
Speaker 1: to you got to read, you know, you got to
Speaker 1: keep reading and find out what the follow up is.
Speaker 1: And you know I just read just we were, you know,
Speaker 1: getting ready to record that, uh, Trump is expect extending
Speaker 1: the whole thing we had to shut down over, which
Speaker 1: was that, you know, renewing the I guess subsidies, extra
Speaker 1: subsidies for Obamacare. Guess what he just did. He's doing
Speaker 1: He's renewing them for two years. They have no plan, right,
Speaker 1: They never had a plan. They never had a health
Speaker 1: care plan. They never planned to have a healthcare plan.
Speaker 1: And frankly, Obamacare is their plan because he stole from
Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation. So boo. But yeah, so now we're
Speaker 1: after all of that who struck what, you know, the elections,
Speaker 1: Even even that adult brain seems to be aware of
Speaker 1: waning popularity, right because damn, damn numbers are in the
Speaker 1: toilet for that man.
Speaker 2: And those is officially done.
Speaker 1: I know. And you know what, I hope that gets
Speaker 1: sorted out and we take those people to task because
Speaker 1: we still don't really realize the full impact of what
Speaker 1: they did. Because I will tell you this, Doge. I
Speaker 1: blame Doge for the fact that I don't work at
Speaker 1: my job anymore because we were under a grant that
Speaker 1: we and you know, we hit every measure of the grant,
Speaker 1: but Doge took away a whole bunch of money from
Speaker 1: the division you know demas the Division of Mental Health
Speaker 1: and Human and Addiction Services, yep, just took it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it was initially COVID money. Well, they were using
Speaker 1: that COVID money in very constructive and creative and important
Speaker 1: ways and serving communities like this one that had never
Speaker 1: been served, especially in addiction treatment. And you know, we
Speaker 1: were having groundbreaking results. But it all basically has gone
Speaker 1: away now because why because the grant went away? Because
Speaker 1: why because doge right? Yeah, there was no government efficiency
Speaker 1: and a lot of mental health programming and a lot
Speaker 1: of addiction treatment programming has been cut and reorganized and
Speaker 1: some entire organizations gone away, and we're gonna be feeling this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna notice this as time goes by,
Speaker 1: the destruction that they wrought. And I do I hope
Speaker 1: they all wind up on charge charges. I hope they
Speaker 1: all wind up in jail for what they've done. Right,
Speaker 1: And they only did it so billionaires could strip us
Speaker 1: of more.
Speaker 2: Money, right, because it's not like, you know, uh, that
Speaker 2: organization was spending the COVID money on frivolous things like oh,
Speaker 2: I don't know, a fucking ballroom.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, like that like that. There's your tax dollars
Speaker 1: at work, but you know.
Speaker 2: And then again not even that because no one got paid.
Speaker 1: Well shocker, here's the thing. Uh, But I digress. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll get there. The Republicans had their ass handed to
Speaker 1: them earlier this month, and they should and I hope
Speaker 1: it keeps happening, you know. And that's not to say
Speaker 1: we don't you know, we've got to roll our sleeves
Speaker 1: up as a nation. I literally just did, and you did.
Speaker 1: No one said the patriarchy was going to die quietly,
Speaker 1: no one. You know, we've talked about the last gasps
Speaker 1: of it might look like it looks like this, and
Speaker 1: it you know, it's up to all of us collectively
Speaker 1: to make sure they are the last gaps. And you know,
Speaker 1: sure and a more compassionate era.
Speaker 2: Well, how many times have I said, you want to
Speaker 2: start a war? Tell a white man? No.
Speaker 1: I talked at p Flag last night about you know,
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like, bear with me with the logic.
Speaker 1: But in a way, all the Michigoths that the Republicans
Speaker 1: have stirred up in tormenting the fuck out of trans
Speaker 1: people has also meant more people than ever have a
Speaker 1: much better understanding of us you know, have been now
Speaker 1: know a whole lot of facts information about us that
Speaker 1: they never would have bothered to know otherwise. So in
Speaker 1: some ways they've really done a lot of educating. Not
Speaker 1: on purpose, god knows, because they've been doing nothing but
Speaker 1: lying about us, but people of goodwill who have gone
Speaker 1: and educated themselves and you know, figured out what the
Speaker 1: truth actually is, probably wouldn't have done that without them. Right,
Speaker 1: unintended consequences, right can be positive, It's true. Yeah, silver linings,
Speaker 1: silver linings. So we have a long list of folks
Speaker 1: we lost.
Speaker 2: And we can't even go into depth. I didn't want
Speaker 2: to take anyone off because everyone deserves to be recognized.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we're going to bang through it. Giorgio Armani,
Speaker 1: ninety one years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was back in early September.
Speaker 1: There we go.
Speaker 2: Polly Holiday, Polly Holiday from Alice. Yeah, most famously as
Speaker 2: known as Flow from Alice. But I also think of
Speaker 2: her on her stint on the Golden Girls, when she
Speaker 2: was Rose's friend sister cousin. Okay, that relationship was never
Speaker 2: really clear, but she was blind and she was trying
Speaker 2: to depend on Rose for everything, and they had to
Speaker 2: teach her how to Finn for herself.
Speaker 1: Polly Holiday, Rest in peace. Robert Redford, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Robert Redford passed away, Hollywood Royalty.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, but you know, a long life that we
Speaker 1: celebrate because he was what eighty nine, eighty nine years
Speaker 1: old and we should all get eighty nine years Yeah.
Speaker 2: Still back in September, Charlie Kirk is dead, uh huh.
Speaker 2: And then asa Asada Chaqueur passed away. She was a
Speaker 2: formidable activist, revolutionaire, Tupac's godmom. That whole like running thing
Speaker 2: about you know, disappearing to Cuba. She started with her.
Speaker 1: She died in Cuba. Yeah, as seventy eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she did. She was about it, about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, she was Jane Goodall, Jane Goodall passed away, who
Speaker 1: was ninety one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the foremost authority on Primates, and she actually had
Speaker 2: a little resurgence in pop culture recently, like in the
Speaker 2: past couple of years because on Get Rid of to
Speaker 2: Roll Your Eyes on season sixteen, I believe of drag Race,
Speaker 2: Nimphia Wind impersonated her, not very successfully on Snatch Game,
Speaker 2: but you know in the finale, the top three, like
Speaker 2: whoever they impersonated, if they're still around, they do a
Speaker 2: video message congratulating them and making it to the finale.
Speaker 2: So Jane Goodall did a message, so you know, she
Speaker 2: got to have a moment in the zeitgeist again, which was.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Major Griffin Gracie. Yeah, just before her seventy ninth birthday,
Speaker 1: so you know, and that's the part again, trans women
Speaker 1: should all get seventy nine years, We should get ninety years,
Speaker 1: you know, and so we celebrate a life lived in service.
Speaker 1: You know, there was We're not exactly shore Hold she was,
Speaker 1: but her driver's license did say she was born October
Speaker 1: twenty fifth, nineteen forty six. So she died about a
Speaker 1: week or two before she turned seventy nine.
Speaker 2: And that's the transagenda, to die of old age exactly, exactly,
Speaker 2: for Fox's sake.
Speaker 1: She was a pioneer. She was one of the folks
Speaker 1: from Stonewall. She was there and a life of service
Speaker 1: to the community, particulately for trans women of color, incarcerated women,
Speaker 1: incarcerated trans women. She fought long and hard.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so rest in power, indeed, manager Mama, from what
Speaker 1: I to a lot of folks. Yeah, D'Angelo, Yeah.
Speaker 2: We lost DeAngelo. He was fifty one. He passed away
Speaker 2: in the middle of October. He lost his battle with cancer.
Speaker 2: D'Angelo was one of our contemporary musical geniuses, one of
Speaker 2: the founders of the neo soul movement. He wouldn't have
Speaker 2: said that, but it has. He has been attributed with
Speaker 2: that moniker. His first two albums are considered to be
Speaker 2: two of the best R and B albums ever to
Speaker 2: grace the planet.
Speaker 1: Yeah Said fifty one, Yeah Too Young Actually Hurt Me?
Speaker 2: And Questlove has recently confirmed that there's going to be
Speaker 2: a posthumous album coming up. He and Dangelo worked together
Speaker 2: very closely in the past, especially for his iconic Voodoo album,
Speaker 2: So I'm interested in seeing that when it comes out.
Speaker 1: Diane Keaton, Diane Keaton, this one made me so sad.
Speaker 1: Seventy nine, which I'm sorry, but y'all, seventy nine is
Speaker 1: yea iconic, iconic Yeah, for decades, I've just I've loved
Speaker 1: her work. Same Annie Hall and The Godfather And.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you may not made me, but you you got
Speaker 2: me to watch any Hall a few weeks ago, just
Speaker 2: because you were thinking about her and I hadn't seen
Speaker 2: it yet, so and you know, I, despite my other feelings,
Speaker 2: all the rest of my feelings about what he allen.
Speaker 2: I do appreciate him as a filmmaker for the most part,
Speaker 2: especially his earlier work, And I had not seen any
Speaker 2: Hall and I understand.
Speaker 1: How, okay she wanted an Oscar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand how Diane Keaton's performance in that film
Speaker 2: launched her like I get it. I totally get it.
Speaker 1: And The Family Stone, which I adore, and we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about yes, speaking of Alfred.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so The Family Stone is one of your
Speaker 2: favorite Christmas movies. It has since become one of my
Speaker 2: favorite Christmas movies. Bought a problematic white family and they're
Speaker 2: problematic white house guests.
Speaker 1: And we've watched this Christmas every year as well to
Speaker 1: balance it out do.
Speaker 2: We do usually back to back there, But coming soon,
Speaker 2: stay tuned, We're going to be having a special episode Martha,
Speaker 2: myself and friends of the Pod. Doctor Alfred Martin will
Speaker 2: be returning and Kathy O'Connell will be returning to discuss
Speaker 2: this film because it holds a special place in all
Speaker 2: of our hearts for varying.
Speaker 1: Reasons, for varying reasons, and we have bearing opinions we
Speaker 1: did about the movie, so it's gonna be a really
Speaker 1: interesting conversation. Yes, lawd, I did watch it the night
Speaker 1: that I heard that Diane Keaton had passed.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I love that movie and I'm gonna watch it again
Speaker 1: before we sit down and talk about it. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm gonna have to defend it.
Speaker 2: And I'm interested in seeing how this goes because there's
Speaker 2: i mean, much like everything, there's black people that love
Speaker 2: that movie, like myself, and there's black people that hate
Speaker 2: that move for the same fucking reason. It's going to
Speaker 2: be a fun conversation and nobody's wrong now.
Speaker 1: But you know what a good what a great Christmas
Speaker 1: time discussion. So hey, watch The Family Stone.
Speaker 2: It'll be up before Christmas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then listen to us talk about
Speaker 1: The Family Stone. June Lockhart Lassie lost in space. She
Speaker 1: died at one hundred, right, I mean, hey, hey, exactly,
Speaker 1: Dick Cheney's dead, uh huh. And Jelly Johnson, jelly Bean.
Speaker 2: Johnson, who was the one and only drummer.
Speaker 1: Of the time of the time. He was sixty nine.
Speaker 2: And you know, I always hear either Prince or Morris
Speaker 2: Day in the back of my head on Jellybean.
Speaker 1: You've added two other names before we get to the name.
Speaker 1: I want to talk so Udo who is that?
Speaker 2: Oh Udo Kir passed away. He was eighty one. He
Speaker 2: passed away just a couple of days ago. He was
Speaker 2: a prolific German actor who's been in so many things
Speaker 2: in both American pop culture and world pop culture. He
Speaker 2: always plays an eccentric, villainous type.
Speaker 1: That's what it says. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: Openly gay, which made some of his badassory even cooler. Like,
Speaker 2: the main thing I think of him was as the uh,
Speaker 2: the head of the vampire Council Dragonetti in Blade.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 2: He was a cool dude, Udokir, and he.
Speaker 1: Had a cool name. I just realized her. Viola Fletcher is.
Speaker 1: Viola Fletcher was the oldest survivor of the Tulsa Race massacre.
Speaker 1: She died at one hundred eleven yep.
Speaker 2: And the part of that that hurts me, I'm glad
Speaker 2: she she made it to one hundred and eleven, but
Speaker 2: she was one hundred and six when the trial came
Speaker 2: up regarding reparations for the survivors and families of.
Speaker 1: The Green neighborhood of Tulsa, right of black Wall Street
Speaker 1: and the Tulsa massacre.
Speaker 2: And it felt like she was holding on to see justice.
Speaker 2: It does, and there was none because you know, they
Speaker 2: did what we knew they were going to do.
Speaker 1: There's that. But yeah, she she was she witnessed seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was seven. So she lived to be one hundred
Speaker 1: and eleven. How about that?
Speaker 2: Talk about iconic. She saw everything, She saw everything twice right,
Speaker 2: thank you seriously.
Speaker 1: And the Philadelphia region lost arguably an icon yes, a
Speaker 1: month at the end of October. Yeah, here a bear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: gj on Wmoir since nineteen eightys on eighty four eighty one,
Speaker 1: I think early eighties, early eighties, you know, I am
Speaker 1: heartened to see. He was on the air for forty
Speaker 1: four years, so eight nineteen eighty one. They list his
Speaker 1: age of seventy depending on who you talked to, and
Speaker 1: that might have shaved a few years off of his age.
Speaker 2: But whatever a lady never tells, right it is.
Speaker 1: It has fascinated me to just watch the region poor love.
Speaker 1: You know, when they did sort of an I guess
Speaker 1: an ad hoc you know memorial in Rittenhouse Square, you know,
Speaker 1: hundreds of people showed up. He was beloved. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was a good citizen. He was. He had an encyclopedic
Speaker 1: knowledge of rock and roll. Everyone who knew Pierre or
Speaker 1: met Pierre loved Pierre. We got to work with him
Speaker 1: at the Aids Walk each year, which he m seed
Speaker 1: and we stage managed. So you know, our paths have
Speaker 1: crossed professionally, and they've also crossed many times in the
Speaker 1: gaghborhood because the man was gay as Christmas and we're
Speaker 1: not talking about that, and I I'm I'm I'm really
Speaker 1: only of one mind, you know, in the way that
Speaker 1: we say if you like that computer, thank Alan touring, right,
Speaker 1: you know, who was a gay man, and we point
Speaker 1: that out right because we have as queer people made
Speaker 1: such enormous contributions to the world, and we leave that
Speaker 1: heart out. And he did not, you know, talk about
Speaker 1: his his sexuality on air. It wasn't your Maane for
Speaker 1: one thing. But he was out. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: out and about. He wasn't hiding, nope. And you know,
Speaker 1: I had this conversation with one of our friends at
Speaker 1: Knock recently and I said, I'm just not hearing anyone
Speaker 1: mention it. I mean other than friends who knew him
Speaker 1: and you know, probably hooked up with him. And are
Speaker 1: you know, and and others who have hooked up with him.
Speaker 1: But it's just been interesting to me that we are
Speaker 1: not talking about that part of his life and he was.
Speaker 1: And the more I see them just pouring out like
Speaker 1: they knew him, like he was their best friend. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, and you loved a gay man. I hope
Speaker 1: that doesn't change how you feel about him, right, because
Speaker 1: you know, reading some of what I've read, it's clear
Speaker 1: to me that everyone does not know that, right obviously, Right.
Speaker 1: There was even one article that speculated a wife. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what not that I know of, But I mean if
Speaker 1: there was one in the bass, and I've been around
Speaker 1: a long time, right, I've never heard that, m But yeah,
Speaker 1: And the only reason I mentioned in the age thing
Speaker 1: was because I remember Gosha telling me they were the
Speaker 1: same age, and Gsha would be seventy four or so
Speaker 1: how she lived, So that's what I meant, right, But
Speaker 1: you know, the records say he was born in nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty five and he was seventy and that that may
Speaker 1: well be. That's not really my point. My point is
Speaker 1: I hope that we can celebrate the fullness of the man, right.
Speaker 1: I really do. It's just that it's been sitting on
Speaker 1: my spirit that you know, even gay DJs are not
Speaker 1: talking about the fact that it's not about I mean privacy,
Speaker 1: and as far as I know, right, you know, his
Speaker 1: family may not want that just who knows. They're not
Speaker 1: releasing his cause of death, which being in privacy, who cares?
Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't be less interested in that he
Speaker 1: died of natural causes in his sleep, right, good, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: But you know that was the fullness of the dude,
Speaker 1: and everyone in this region. I don't think there's anyone
Speaker 1: who doesn't know that that Pierre Robert played Alice's restaurant
Speaker 1: every Thanksgiving, every Thanksgiving, you know, the long, the nineteen
Speaker 1: minute version, right every Thanksgiving. And they also played at
Speaker 1: one a memoir like Noon, which sometimes I caught that
Speaker 1: one because I But anyway, he was iconic, it was beloved.
Speaker 1: He was, you know, a really sweet, thoughtful human.
Speaker 2: I knew who Pierre Robert was pretty much my entire life, sure,
Speaker 2: because my sister was an MMR fan. So it's just
Speaker 2: a name that you heard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've seen so much written about him
Speaker 1: and about his career, but just nobody's mentioning. Has it
Speaker 1: not bothered you?
Speaker 2: I mean actively bothered me? No, but I did notice it,
Speaker 2: well noticed I.
Speaker 1: At this point in history, with so much vitriol in
Speaker 1: the air, people are coming together left, right and sideways
Speaker 1: over someone that was beloved to all. And by the way,
Speaker 1: he was queer. Right, I'm sorry, but by the way,
Speaker 1: you know, because and I think part of it is
Speaker 1: just that that, you know, the Maga cult has brainwashed
Speaker 1: so many people that I used to care about, who
Speaker 1: don't talk to me anymore because at least some of
Speaker 1: them are pouring their hearts out about Pierre Robert. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's important to note that, Yeah, a gay
Speaker 1: man was beloved to you, so why don't you knock
Speaker 1: off your ship? Taking nothing away from him at all.
Speaker 1: Colder actually thought he was wonderful. I really did still
Speaker 1: love running into him. He used a chat all the time. However,
Speaker 1: the twins loved him too. He loved them. He could
Speaker 1: fill a table with them at the Midtown three at
Speaker 1: three am because we'd be in the next booth with Ghosh.
Speaker 1: He would hang over the booth and chat. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know he was. He was out and around.
Speaker 2: Well, that was the theory very frequently in the game, right,
Speaker 2: That was the theory is to why there were so
Speaker 2: many different ages floating around.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Because the twins ages stayed the same.
Speaker 1: They pretty much did. Yeah, legal but you know young,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I I he was an icon. He was
Speaker 1: truly beloved and lovely and you know, chill, and yes,
Speaker 1: he was very much a hippie. You really did come
Speaker 1: here in a ww bus and gay and gay. So
Speaker 1: we'll see how that comes about. But that's been it's
Speaker 1: just been on my spirit that you know, these are
Speaker 1: the kinds of things that should unite us. We all
Speaker 1: lost someone who was amazing and full of life and
Speaker 1: you know, brought us music, right, and that is so important.
Speaker 1: We all did, and it's a place where we could
Speaker 1: be coming together. But I kind of want us to
Speaker 1: tell the truth of that. You know, if you're going
Speaker 1: to keep me backed up against a motherfucking wall because
Speaker 1: I'm a trans woman, you're worshiping a gay man, just
Speaker 1: know it, fucker, just know it of us? Are none
Speaker 1: of us? That's all? Yeah, kind of kind of and
Speaker 1: the man was very sweet to me. Yes, always same,
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, Yes, and I will get off that,
Speaker 1: so bunks get rest in power and peace. Pierre, we
Speaker 1: loved you, you were amazing. Thank you for the smiles
Speaker 1: and all you brought to this region and all of
Speaker 1: you is missed. Yes, we'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back.
Speaker 1: I've missed that. Hey. So election night, yeah, actually approved
Speaker 1: many things, including the fact that Democrats don't need to
Speaker 1: abandon trans people to win. Right, quite the opposite, Actually
Speaker 1: quite the opposite. ZOEA and Mom. Donnie won by a
Speaker 1: lot in New York City and he is he will
Speaker 1: be the next mayor of New York City, and there
Speaker 1: was a full throated support of this community and our
Speaker 1: rich history in the city of New York. He included
Speaker 1: Sylvia Rivera in his u one of his campaign videos
Speaker 1: campaign video, and he did so many cool campaign videos
Speaker 1: around the city talking about and to and with so
Speaker 1: many different kinds of people, and he won. The one
Speaker 1: that really stuck out to me was he like set
Speaker 1: up his desk right at the Chelsea Piers and talked
Speaker 1: about the trans community and Sylvia Rivera and her support,
Speaker 1: her active support of her community, and how the community
Speaker 1: did not support her back exactly exactly that's that woman's truth.
Speaker 1: Marcia too, but Sylvia really took it on the gin right,
Speaker 1: and he's talking about it. Yeah, he's young and smart
Speaker 1: and unafraid. And you know, the most mind boggling thing
Speaker 1: we saw after all Trump's garbage is now he's dressing
Speaker 1: like him to say that they met once and Trump's
Speaker 1: in love with him and he didn't cave on anything,
Speaker 1: but he's you know, it's the game that narcissists play,
Speaker 1: you know, But well, he.
Speaker 2: Figures if he doesn't, he might never feel how bad
Speaker 2: in New York again?
Speaker 1: Perhaps I'm hoping, you know, Gavin Newsom is paying attention
Speaker 1: because for all his little exploits with you know, Trump,
Speaker 1: he's also thrown us under the bus a bit, going
Speaker 1: on right wing podcasts and you know, doing the whole
Speaker 1: whataboutism thing with trans people and I'm not cool, Gavin,
Speaker 1: And you don't need to do that to win. No,
Speaker 1: you don't need that flex and it's not the flex
Speaker 1: you think it is, but it does tell me you're
Speaker 1: out of touch. I love, and we're seeing people like
Speaker 1: AOC and Bernie Beloved and mom, Donny, what did he have?
Speaker 1: One percent? At one point? Right, and went on to
Speaker 1: win by a serious margin.
Speaker 2: I knew he was going from the moment I clocked
Speaker 2: what he was about. I was like, he's going to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you showed me one video and I said, I
Speaker 1: want to vote for him. I want to vote for
Speaker 1: him for New Jersey governor. Right, nothing against Mikey. I
Speaker 1: mean congratulations to Mikey. Cheryl who did not come on
Speaker 1: the podcast whatever shade, Yeah, well offered the opportunity. But anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, she ran a more cautious campaign. Let's just
Speaker 1: say that certainly has been seen in rainbow shirts and
Speaker 1: knows the folks at Garden State Equality and all of
Speaker 1: that could have said and done more Interestingly, there is
Speaker 1: a day of lobbying and it happens to be December eighth,
Speaker 1: my birthday in Trenton for the lame duck session and
Speaker 1: passing of the transgender but essentially the healthcare Bill of Rights.
Speaker 1: So all of the things that we had via executive
Speaker 1: order from Phil Rthy. We know that they have the votes,
Speaker 1: we know that it's possible. We want to see it
Speaker 1: get done because it was kind of a promise, yeah,
Speaker 1: and we want to see that promise for filled before January.
Speaker 1: We want those things codified into law, that New Jersey
Speaker 1: is a safe place for trans people and those who
Speaker 1: provide our healthcare, and that they will not be penalized
Speaker 1: for providing health care. Damn it, and Mike, you won
Speaker 1: by a landslide. That's a landslide. What was it? Thirteen points,
Speaker 1: I believe, and that's a mandate. That's an actual mandate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her and mom Donnie both what they have in
Speaker 2: common is they had so many votes that it was
Speaker 2: called in their favor, like immediately, not even a full
Speaker 2: hour after Pope Poles post closed at.
Speaker 1: Eight, and I knew at eight twenty, right, I was
Speaker 1: getting texts at eight toes, so not even a half hour,
Speaker 1: not even a half hour that you know, they knew
Speaker 1: there was no possible path for Jack Chitdarelli or whatever
Speaker 1: his name is, to win. And he was a Maga extremist.
Speaker 1: You know, when New Jersey has voted for a Republican governor,
Speaker 1: it's usually because they're pissed off. And it's never been
Speaker 1: a Maga kind of person. No, never. I mean, Chris
Speaker 1: Christy was bad enough for everyone, but it's never been
Speaker 1: that right, and Jack keeps trying, But I would say
Speaker 1: Mikey has a mandate, and you know, we certainly know
Speaker 1: many folks who are gonna remind her that we helped
Speaker 1: get her there. That are, and I have heard wonderful
Speaker 1: things about her. I truly I have friends who know
Speaker 1: her better. Maybe not the world's best campaigner, but a
Speaker 1: serious person who you know, seriously engages policy, smart as
Speaker 1: a whip, and will govern well. Right, So yay, yay
Speaker 1: for us, Yeay for Virginia. You know, so many Democrats
Speaker 1: won and Moms for Liberty slated. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many candidates. I believe none one.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it doesn't even matter because not
Speaker 2: near nd one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, last time was paying attention, it was none. Now
Speaker 1: Diane said last night maybe it was one or two,
Speaker 1: but I maybe, but it wasn't many.
Speaker 2: I heard none.
Speaker 1: I heard none as well, but that was early, so
Speaker 1: I don't know if a couple squeaked in, but I
Speaker 1: heard none. And it's either none or close to none.
Speaker 1: And good, right, good, because people are waking up to
Speaker 1: where that goes, right where y'all are taking us what this?
Speaker 1: You know, people are getting the full picture of this
Speaker 1: mess that many of y'all got us into well, and
Speaker 1: they don't like it. I wanted brown people to suffer,
Speaker 1: not me.
Speaker 2: Not me. Fascism look cooler in the brochure.
Speaker 1: It looks so good when you were punishing the people
Speaker 1: I don't like. Uh, the ones I find.
Speaker 2: Dicky, But it does it feel good?
Speaker 1: No, But you know my farm is bankrupt and I'm bankrupt.
Speaker 1: We have no healthcare and that's not what he promised.
Speaker 1: He's got a ballroom now people are seeing it.
Speaker 2: Myself hating brown husband got deported.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and he's building a fucking ballroom, desecrating the
Speaker 1: White House and building ballroom while people are suffering. And
Speaker 1: like I said, don't make no mistake. The Doge shit
Speaker 1: affected a lot of people, a lot of humans, a
Speaker 1: lot of services that were critical. And you will see,
Speaker 1: you will see the effects of that absence as time
Speaker 1: goes on, because you can't, not exactly, you can't. And again,
Speaker 1: when we lost our grant, we lost any power we
Speaker 1: had to insist on fairness where we were concerned. So thanks Doge.
Speaker 1: What else? Nancy Pelosi has announced that she will not
Speaker 1: seek reelection and she is retiring. Correct, yeah, you speak
Speaker 1: her Emeritis has been in public service for six decades.
Speaker 1: This month she did announce her retirement.
Speaker 2: And the thing that pissed me off about that is
Speaker 2: all these people, like the agism just jumps up like, finally,
Speaker 2: get all these old people out. We need you all
Speaker 2: forgetting that these people have been fighting for your ungrateful
Speaker 2: ass for decades.
Speaker 1: Yes, and there is a point at which no, I
Speaker 1: get it, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying like that shouldn't be the first
Speaker 2: thing out your mouth.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't. And we don't hear it as full throatedly
Speaker 1: towards the old men as we do older women. So
Speaker 1: except for Biden, well we did, yeah, and we got
Speaker 1: something much less healthy and much worse. But okay, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna still say Kama didn't have a
Speaker 1: shot to really launch a campaign. America is still racist
Speaker 1: and misogynistic to the point where I don't know that
Speaker 1: she could have won. I'm not sure, but I do
Speaker 1: think Biden would have beat him anyway. Well, I think
Speaker 1: I think it was you know that, I know he
Speaker 1: promised one term. He did right, and so it would
Speaker 1: have been great if she had more time. But all
Speaker 1: that said, you know, I don't know that switching horses
Speaker 1: midstream was smart, certainly not look around, and I'm a devastation.
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure it's fair to say Kamala wouldn't
Speaker 2: won because of the elon of it, all right, which
Speaker 2: we don't know, I mean even well he basically all
Speaker 2: but said, well, well they did, and all but said, well,
Speaker 2: and we should be investigating that. We should be investigating that.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a there's a democratic governor in Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: because they I believe the statement was made about Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: So yeah, like, investigate that ship then, right, make sure
Speaker 2: it can't happen, and if it did happen, prosecute them.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Right, I don't know. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: because I remember saying in the primary when it was
Speaker 1: Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The first time, I said,
Speaker 1: we're about to find out who America is more afraid
Speaker 1: of a black man or a white woman. There turns
Speaker 1: out they were more afraid of the white woman because
Speaker 1: he was half black or something, and they tortured him
Speaker 1: the entire time he was in office, which I'm sure
Speaker 1: they will do, you know, or would do with a
Speaker 1: woman in office. You know, there's no woman who will
Speaker 1: pass uster.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why it cracks me up, because who will.
Speaker 2: People are trying to gass up Michelle Obama about running,
Speaker 2: and she's like, if you don't get the fuck out
Speaker 2: my face with that bullshit, or you know, the Michelle Obama.
Speaker 1: Version of the Michelle Obama version of if you don't
Speaker 1: get the fuck out of my face.
Speaker 2: Right, she was like, y'all. Basically, she was like, y'all
Speaker 2: ain't ready, so don't waste my time. Not to mention
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to. She barely wanted to be first Lady.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: She loved her husband and support her husband more than
Speaker 2: she didn't want to be first lady. And that's the
Speaker 2: only reason why, Like don't, just don't. And people are
Speaker 2: like trying to come at Kamala about some of the
Speaker 2: way things are. She was like, I'm not the president,
Speaker 2: so what you're yelling at me exactly?
Speaker 1: Yep, this wouldn't happen in my watch, So you go
Speaker 1: to hell. She has a book out and I want
Speaker 1: to read it. Yeah, I do want to read her book.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, we have some lessons from the past,
Speaker 1: like Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But again, she had the right
Speaker 1: to keep working. She wasn't. She was not senile. I mean,
Speaker 1: she wasn't in perfect health, but she was not losing
Speaker 1: her faculties. Right. I mean Diane Feinstein staid too late
Speaker 1: at the party. You know, it seemed apparent that her
Speaker 1: staffers were running things for quite a while, right, And
Speaker 1: we need to not do that. And you know, Kathy
Speaker 1: and I had this conversation recently and I was like,
Speaker 1: if you were embarrassing yourself, we wouldn't let you, right,
Speaker 1: We'd say it's time to go. Remember you wanted to
Speaker 1: know it's it's time to go. It's time to bow
Speaker 1: off the air, you know. And She's like, I would
Speaker 1: expect that, And I'm like, I know, why did she
Speaker 1: not have anyone who come on? Baby? But everyone else
Speaker 1: enjoys the power that they have because of position. And
Speaker 1: you know, I want politics to be different, right, I
Speaker 1: just do. But you know, Nancy has had a long
Speaker 1: and distinguished career, A trailblazer, a fighter. She proved she
Speaker 1: knew how to rally things, she knew how to you know,
Speaker 1: get to voters. She did some pretty amazing things as speaker.
Speaker 1: And I wish her a lovely and healthy and long
Speaker 1: retirement because she has certainly served us often, thanklessly, for
Speaker 1: a long time.
Speaker 2: I want her to sit somewhere with some brandy and
Speaker 2: her feet up and some bunny slippers, reading some trashy
Speaker 2: novel just because you fucking can. That's what I want
Speaker 2: for her.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So I'm jumping to Manuel Miranda, who was
Speaker 1: annow dot com saying it was an easy decision to
Speaker 1: cancel Hamilton at the Kennedy Center, another institution that Trump
Speaker 1: has trashed law while I was away. Yeah, they refused
Speaker 1: to perform, and good.
Speaker 2: And not just them like Isa Ray was supposed to
Speaker 2: perform and didn't. It was a bunch of folks. And
Speaker 2: it's basically like, fuck.
Speaker 1: Y'all, is your monkey ass happiness? You got? You got
Speaker 1: let's say, Kid Rock, Nicki Minaje, right and Chachi. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so enjoy that.
Speaker 2: And just because you put a house faggot in charge
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it's going.
Speaker 1: To be art. No, it does not, It doesn't. I
Speaker 1: have an anecdote. I would love to add to that,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to. But I have one right
Speaker 1: at the tip of my dad.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he does know how many minutes
Speaker 2: make up a year. He's not the one.
Speaker 1: Got damned, he's not the one. Nomm hm no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. It's going to take a long time to
Speaker 1: get these institutions back to look at all the mess,
Speaker 1: because we've got like it's kind of like a drunken
Speaker 1: toddler just running through the country. Wow, that's an apt image. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just just smashing things, including the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 2: The arts community had five hundred and twenty five six
Speaker 2: hundred ways to say fuck you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wellnell had said that this was a publicity stunt
Speaker 1: that would backfire, and of course, you know, this is
Speaker 1: the Center's new president. Of course he deleted that tweet.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: They don't need to do a publicity stunt. They're fucking Hamilton.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And of course, Harvey Feirestein said he was banned
Speaker 1: from the Kennedy Center after he criticized Trump and called
Speaker 1: Crenell a self loathing queer because he is that part,
Speaker 1: you know, and self loathing queer is a little more
Speaker 1: eloquent than housewaggot.
Speaker 2: But it's the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: It is distinction without a difference, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't blame them at all. I
Speaker 4: don't blame them at all, you know, because ugh, what
Speaker 4: you're doing is ugly and awful, and the more people
Speaker 4: that stand up against it, the better. We've had some
Speaker 4: amazing No King's Days and you know everyone said that
Speaker 4: was that, that they were stunts, but boy did they
Speaker 4: lead to some results election day?
Speaker 1: Boy did they that part? And may that continue? May
Speaker 1: that continue? I you know, we've often said what will
Speaker 1: it take for people to stay interested and go vote?
Speaker 1: And you know, how bad does it have to get?
Speaker 1: And you know, we're seeing how awful his Supreme Court is.
Speaker 1: And we'll talk some more about that that elections have consequences. Indeed,
Speaker 1: y'all let's see.
Speaker 2: So I want to talk about this real quick because
Speaker 2: it's still going. The New York Historical Society has an
Speaker 2: ongoing exhibition honoring and displaying the LGBTQ legacy of the
Speaker 2: Harlem Renaissance. So the exhibition is all about the queer
Speaker 2: folks that that were a part of that movement. And
Speaker 2: you know, we always talk about how the Harlem Renaissance
Speaker 2: was about, you know, the black intelligensia, which it was,
Speaker 2: you know, and the the artistry and the music and
Speaker 2: the thinking that came out of that movement. But we
Speaker 2: never talk about how queer it was.
Speaker 1: It was in the twenties and thirties, and it was
Speaker 1: very queer.
Speaker 2: Yes, very very queer. In fact, most of the people
Speaker 2: that we name off the top of our husband talking
Speaker 2: about the Harlem Renaissance were queer as fuck.
Speaker 1: My Raini, my Rainie, Langston.
Speaker 2: Huge Langston, Hughes, keep going. Yeah, so that exhibit the
Speaker 2: gay Harlem Renaissance.
Speaker 1: The first is going with the water Smith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: Took a second.
Speaker 2: It's running, It's it opened in October and it's running
Speaker 2: until March.
Speaker 1: Oh. I love that.
Speaker 2: That's why I wanted to talk about it, because you know,
Speaker 2: people should check it out.
Speaker 1: And this is where you said, the New York Historical Society. Yes, uh,
Speaker 1: where where is that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So the New York Historical is Central Park West. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so we're going to post a link to the
Speaker 2: website so that you can go check it out because
Speaker 2: it's an amazing collection of the legacy, the queer legacy,
Speaker 2: the black legacy of a major influence in American pop
Speaker 2: culture and American culture at large. And I want us
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 1: I would love to, Yeah, I would love to say it.
Speaker 1: M h to say so no, it's interesting. So all
Speaker 1: we have a Central Park West, that's all.
Speaker 2: We got one seventy Central Park West, Richard Gildaway on
Speaker 2: seventy seventh Street.
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's where this display, Yes, m B, yes,
Speaker 1: so yeah.
Speaker 2: Gay Harlem Renaissance runs until March eighth, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: I love that. No, I would love to see that
Speaker 1: since worth seeing exactly. Yeah. The more we study history,
Speaker 1: the more we cry. Well, that's all I got. I
Speaker 1: love the headline. DEM candidate glitter bombs anti LGBTQ plus
Speaker 1: Christian group over transphobic survey. I think it's only fair
Speaker 1: they get a little sparkle in their life. Read show. Walter,
Speaker 1: a thirty two year old heterosexual who is one of
Speaker 1: sixteen Democratic candidates it's running to represent for Illinois's seventh
Speaker 1: congressional district in the US House, recently responded to a
Speaker 1: candidate survey from the transphobic Illinois Family Institute by filling
Speaker 1: it out and enclosing it in a glitter bomb ha namely,
Speaker 1: an envelope filled with lots of golden glitter just waiting
Speaker 1: to spill abon whoever opens it. Okay, I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So one of the funny things about running for offices.
Speaker 1: You get inundated with a bunch of questionnaires asking what
Speaker 1: your positions are, considering whether they'll endorse you or whether
Speaker 1: they will campaign actively against you, including some of the strangest,
Speaker 1: most gobliny people on earth. For example, the Illinois Family
Speaker 1: Institute boldly bringing a biblical perspective to public policy in
Speaker 1: the Land of Lincoln, which I guess to them means
Speaker 1: opposing abortion and LGBT interests.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mmmmm.
Speaker 1: They sent the questionnaire asking if he supports withholding federal
Speaker 1: funds from schools that allow biological males to participate in
Speaker 1: female sports. So they oppose trans people, but only if
Speaker 1: it's male to female and not the other way around.
Speaker 1: And he added that to the group's questionnaire actually asks
Speaker 1: the sports question twice. They're obsessed with it. We know
Speaker 1: those the children's genital fetishists are obsessed. Yeah, they're gleefully
Speaker 1: transphobic and homophobic. So I think it's only fair that
Speaker 1: they get a little sparkle and they're like, well, it's funny.
Speaker 2: And the thing about glitter bombs, besides.
Speaker 1: You know you can never get rid of all, right.
Speaker 2: It's besides being attention grabbing. That's so disrespectful because you
Speaker 2: ain't never getting that.
Speaker 1: Out They don't deserve any respect.
Speaker 2: Oh I agree. I'm just saying I love how disrespectful
Speaker 2: it is because becomes part of the DNA, whatever it
Speaker 2: lands on, you ain't getting that out there.
Speaker 1: You go ever, God, we have never had this many
Speaker 1: items in our favorite segment. It's time for.
Speaker 5: Empoya people taking pleasure.
Speaker 1: Name he it is so Alex Jones appealed the one
Speaker 1: point four billion dollar defamation judgment in the Sandy Hook shooting,
Speaker 1: and the Supreme Court rejected. It is back, but we
Speaker 1: paid for you.
Speaker 2: Right, this is back in mid October.
Speaker 1: It is but still good.
Speaker 2: Right, he don't deserve nada.
Speaker 1: This conspiracy theorist described the twenty twelve Sandy Hook Elementary
Speaker 1: School shooting as a hoox staged by crisis actors. Right
Speaker 1: Info Wars was his show in case you've forgotten nothing.
Speaker 1: There was no comment from the justices, which they issued
Speaker 1: without even asking families of the victims to respond to
Speaker 1: Jones's appeal.
Speaker 2: Right, because we're not even going to bother y'all with this. Nope,
Speaker 2: get the fuck out our face.
Speaker 1: A lawyer who represented the families said the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: had properly rejected Jones's latest desperate attempt to avoid accountability
Speaker 1: for the harm he has caused. I want these people
Speaker 1: to pay. Uh, I want them to pay for their lives. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know this shit is biblical, by the way. You know,
Speaker 1: there's that whole thing about those who lead my innocence astray.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a whole thing. I'm not gonna look
Speaker 1: it up, but there is. And trust you you know
Speaker 1: it's like and that's who these people actually are and
Speaker 1: who's worshiping them, the Christians, the fucking evangelicals. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It is crazy. And yeah, I want them to pay
Speaker 1: and pay big for their lies, worked on rudy for
Speaker 1: their lives. Who just said? Which one was it him?
Speaker 1: Which one of them? Just said? If the Democrats take over,
Speaker 1: we're all going to jail.
Speaker 2: M hmm.
Speaker 1: That's our hope the Trump administration is over. Hm, that's
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, that is our.
Speaker 2: Hope, said the quiet part out loud.
Speaker 1: Yep, he dies. Yeah, I forget who's sign up, but
Speaker 1: it was one of these jackasses anyway, they said nope,
Speaker 1: So he's still on the hook and he should be.
Speaker 1: And good Oh that was Steve Bennon. I confused, Steve Bennon,
Speaker 1: Alex Jones. I think they're the same person. I mean,
Speaker 1: they basically are.
Speaker 2: Very minimal difference.
Speaker 1: Bloated white men, bloated, blotchy white men who haven't seen
Speaker 1: their dick in decades. Yeah, same thing.
Speaker 2: One bite to stake away from not being here. No
Speaker 2: more livers. Sound like this.
Speaker 1: Carrying a defibrillator Like it's a girlfriend, Iowa. I'm just
Speaker 1: picturing these dudents like shocking themselves in the hallway to
Speaker 1: keep going.
Speaker 2: You know what the most exciting battles right, well, this
Speaker 2: is my girlfriend, clear.
Speaker 1: Exactly. Iowa must play eighty five thousand dollars because state
Speaker 1: troopers blocked trans students from capital restrooms. Yeah good right,
Speaker 1: six months after Iowa removed gender identity as a protected
Speaker 1: class from its civil rights laws, jackasses, The state now
Speaker 1: must pay eighty five thousand dollars to LGBTQ plus students
Speaker 1: ejected from the Iowa Capital in twenty twenty, among them
Speaker 1: trans students who were denied access to the building's bathrooms.
Speaker 1: Iowa Safe Schools and LGBTQ Plus Youth advocacy group sponsored
Speaker 1: a visit for about one hundred and fifty Iowa students
Speaker 1: and chaperones to the Capitol to meet with legislators in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. The group's then executive director, Nate Monson, told
Speaker 1: the Iowa Register that at the time, Iowa State Patrol
Speaker 1: troopers told several transgender students they couldn't use one of
Speaker 1: the bathrooms and had to use a gender neutral restroom instead.
Speaker 1: When he intervened, arguing the troopers directions were inconsistent with
Speaker 1: state law, the entire group was ordered to leave. Yep, yeah, yeah, Wow,
Speaker 1: the Civil Rights Code includes gender identity. He told me
Speaker 1: it did not. Then I told him, yes, it did,
Speaker 1: and he said, well, it doesn't include bathrooms. The students
Speaker 1: were then told to leave the capitol altogether, that they
Speaker 1: had been banned from the capitol grounds and that they
Speaker 1: would be arrested if they returned.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: File a suit in twenty twenty two alleging sex based discrimination, harassment,
Speaker 1: and unlawful retaliation. Under terms of a settlement agreement filed
Speaker 1: in July approved by the Iowa State Board Appeals on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: the state will pay the students and group leaders to
Speaker 1: settle the case without admitting any wrongdoing. Well okay, yeah, yeah, good, good.
Speaker 1: I want it to be expensive. That's apparently all we have, right,
Speaker 1: make it cost, Hey, make it cost if you're going
Speaker 1: to be a lying piece of shit, if you are
Speaker 1: going to discriminate against people because you don't like how
Speaker 1: they look, you know, yeah, I make it be expensive
Speaker 1: to be stupid.
Speaker 2: Please these didn't that used to be the phrase, if
Speaker 2: you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, let's put that into action.
Speaker 1: Meant we mentioned the Kennedy Center earlier. Uh huh, it
Speaker 1: hasn't been going well, right, So the headline reads, empty
Speaker 1: seats and plummeting sales have plagued the Kennedy Center since
Speaker 1: Trump's takeover. It's quote dire.
Speaker 2: Sorry about it.
Speaker 1: He promised to make it hot again. Instead he's made
Speaker 1: it toxic, as with everything he touches hot again. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it didn't need your help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kennedy Center was before him, one of the hottest
Speaker 2: tickets in town, no matter what was playing.
Speaker 1: Washington Area residents and visitors to the Capitol are voting
Speaker 1: with their wallets a referendum on President Trump's golden Age
Speaker 1: in Arts and Culture, a new analysis by the Washington
Speaker 1: Post describes half empty halls and plummeting ticket sales at
Speaker 1: the Kennedy Center, which Trump took over as chairman earlier
Speaker 1: this year, vowing to end woke programming. In his purge
Speaker 1: of the once revered arts and culture institution. He fired staff,
Speaker 1: replaced advisory boards, and installed a new team headed by
Speaker 1: Rick Garnell, who we have earlier indicated as a housewag. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the numbers are not good. The three largest performance venues,
Speaker 1: the Opera House, the Concert Hall, and the Eisenhower Theater
Speaker 1: worse they've been in years. Yeah, tens of thousands of
Speaker 1: seats left empty. Since Trump took over, forty percent of
Speaker 1: tickets remain unsold for the typical production at the venue
Speaker 1: in the new fall season. Forty three percent excuse me,
Speaker 1: from a pool of one hundred and forty three thousand
Speaker 1: seats during September and October, more than fifty thousand and
Speaker 1: remain vacant. During the same period last year, only seven
Speaker 1: percent of seats on average were available on a typical
Speaker 1: production on the day of the performance. Huh. Patrons spent
Speaker 1: half as much money on tickets in September on the
Speaker 1: first half of October twenty twenty five as during the
Speaker 1: same period in twenty twenty four. Uh huh. Given the
Speaker 1: unprecedented takeover of a nonpartisan arts institution, combined with the
Speaker 1: inexperience and rhetoric of the new management, I expected to
Speaker 1: decline in sales, said a former staff member. These numbers
Speaker 1: are likely more dire than they appear, as they don't
Speaker 1: account for canceled productions or shows moved into smaller theaters
Speaker 1: due to weak ticket sales. Uh huh, a current staff member.
Speaker 1: Of course they're all speaking, said, The drop is all
Speaker 1: about Trump. This downturn isn't just about pricing or programming.
Speaker 1: It feels directly tied to the new regime's leadership shift
Speaker 1: and the broader political climate. Yeah, we don't want it right.
Speaker 1: It's not fun. Your bullshit is not fun. He The
Speaker 1: only book that man ever read was mindkomf Is it
Speaker 1: not obvious yet?
Speaker 2: Had read to him whatever?
Speaker 1: Or there's a coloring book, whatever, He had a thirteen
Speaker 1: year old read it in Epstein's bedroom.
Speaker 2: Because I'm sorry, you take away queer folks, brown folks
Speaker 2: and quote unquote wokeness out of art and what is left?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Nothing good?
Speaker 1: Well, and again the last gasps, We're never going to
Speaker 1: be easy, and that's not what we're saying. Mediocrity is
Speaker 1: not happy about, you know, seating anything. And they see it,
Speaker 1: they see their days are numbered.
Speaker 2: And we get kid rock Ted Nugent, the Village people
Speaker 2: and Nicki Minoj and well that's the biggest star on
Speaker 2: their roster.
Speaker 1: And is it all the Village people or just someone?
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole group's been ruined and tainted now.
Speaker 1: Which is ironic as irony of irony of irony. Yeah, so, uh,
Speaker 1: it's not going well at all. And if that's not shottenburd,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. But there's more. Kim
Speaker 1: fucking Davis, that ignorant bitch is still on the hook.
Speaker 2: YEP.
Speaker 1: The Supreme Court did reject her efforts to overturn, you know,
Speaker 1: the ruling that said she owes money, and they declined
Speaker 1: to revisit Overfeld at this point anyway, right, they declined
Speaker 1: to hear an appeal from her, the former Kentucky clerk
Speaker 1: best known for refusing to issue marriage licenses to say
Speaker 1: sex couples after overveiled yep. Following the ruling, she stopped
Speaker 1: issuing marriage licenses altogether. And since filed multiple appeals seeking
Speaker 1: to challenge same sex marriage protections. Once again, that is.
Speaker 2: Her hill to die on.
Speaker 1: They rejected her efforts. In this latest appeal, David sought
Speaker 1: to overturn a one hundred thousand dollars monetary award she
Speaker 1: was ordered to pay to David Moore and David Armhold,
Speaker 1: the same sex couple to whom she denied a marriage license.
Speaker 1: Her petition also urged the court to use the case
Speaker 1: as a vehicle to revisit the constitutional right to same
Speaker 1: sex marriage.
Speaker 2: How dare you exactly?
Speaker 1: The petition, along with the couple's brief and opposition, were
Speaker 1: submitted to the Supreme Court on October twenty second and
Speaker 1: considered during their private conference on November seventh. She needed
Speaker 1: at least four votes for the Court to take up
Speaker 1: her case, but fell short.
Speaker 2: Yep, want and you can tell how long she's removed
Speaker 2: every queer person from her life just based on her
Speaker 2: hair and wardrobe.
Speaker 1: J Yeah, she ain't got a gray friend. She wouldn't
Speaker 1: look like that. Good good, Yeah. No, I think you
Speaker 1: should go about the business of figuring out how you're
Speaker 1: going to pay these gentlemen, right.
Speaker 2: Churn some butter or whatever prairie ass looking bitches like
Speaker 2: you do.
Speaker 1: Nobody else will caught her her maybe donate it. Oh,
Speaker 1: this one is a head scratcher. The ride is now
Speaker 1: transvestigating Charlie Kirk and his wife.
Speaker 2: Eating their own.
Speaker 1: Well, I said, just give it time, and it's happening.
Speaker 1: We knew it was inevitable. They're now knee deep with
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk and his widow. Who for a minute was he?
Speaker 1: They canonized him, didn't they? Some? Pretty much things got weird.
Speaker 2: Well, it's still kind of weird. I saw a shirt
Speaker 2: on Shine with his picture and said in loving memory
Speaker 2: and the dates.
Speaker 1: Nothing in love. So so which one do they think
Speaker 1: a secretly trans both of them?
Speaker 2: Well, mostly her.
Speaker 1: Oh it's her, and that's how he died broken heart.
Speaker 2: No like someone on X posted several photos of of
Speaker 2: her from her Miss Arizona pageant contestant days, alleging that
Speaker 2: they showed evidence that she was secretly trans talking about
Speaker 2: her jawline, her collar, the five gap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're so fun. They can't tell. And actually when
Speaker 1: they can tell.
Speaker 2: It's because yeah, they were as and then they're trying
Speaker 2: to say that Charlie Kirk said, Charlie Kirk seemed so
Speaker 2: feminine and emasculated because she was a transgender handler. That's
Speaker 2: why he was so pretty. Those are words?
Speaker 1: What are we even? Those are words though, like a
Speaker 1: transgender handler?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The one thing like Pizzagate and all these people, It
Speaker 1: turns out America was run by this huge pedophile ring.
Speaker 2: It's just the Republican which is looking in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1: And Trump is their leader. Yeah, you were right, you
Speaker 1: just were looking at the wrong people. Yeah, like this
Speaker 1: is Candice Orange. Shit, Yeah, y'all look crazy. Yeah they do.
Speaker 1: And like we know that. They said the same thing
Speaker 1: about Michelle Obama.
Speaker 2: They some of her recently because of her Fannie Leba
Speaker 2: would spoke.
Speaker 1: For some reason. They try to say that Dylan mulvaney
Speaker 1: was a trans man before becoming a transwoman. What what?
Speaker 1: They're insane? And I don't know why we even give them,
Speaker 1: you know, inches, but they did, and it couldn't happen
Speaker 1: to a nicer widow. How's that? Okay, let's say, Oh,
Speaker 1: the leader of Turning Point pled guilty to attempt an
Speaker 1: election fraud. By the way, Yeah, Turning Point was Kirk's thing.
Speaker 1: Former GOP state rap Austin Smith was Scott submitting signatures
Speaker 1: in his re election campaign.
Speaker 2: Ih See.
Speaker 1: The former Republican state legislator, pleaded guilty to what he
Speaker 1: previously called ludicrous charges that he personally forged more than
Speaker 1: one hundred signatures on his petition for reelection last year.
Speaker 1: But he did. The Republican from Surprise Arizona was a
Speaker 1: member of the far right Arizona Freedom Caucus, which has
Speaker 1: a history of spreading false claims of election fraud. The
Speaker 1: irony should kill them, it should choke them, if only,
Speaker 1: if only. As a part of his guilty play, he
Speaker 1: admitted signing the name of a deceased woman on one
Speaker 1: of his candidate nomination petitions in March of twenty four.
Speaker 1: He also admitted that he attempted to deceive the Secretary
Speaker 1: of State's office by knowingly filing petitions containing forged signatures
Speaker 1: of purported supporters. So he pleaded guilty, and he did
Speaker 1: all that shit. He was at the time he was indicted,
Speaker 1: strategic director of Turning Point Action. Turning Point Ussay's advocacy arm,
Speaker 1: the far right organization based in Phoenix aiming to mobilize
Speaker 1: young conservatives founded by none other than Charlie Kirk advocacy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another Republican criminal.
Speaker 2: Of which they are legion oop.
Speaker 1: Yet and finally, Marjorie Taylor.
Speaker 2: Green yep, the notorious NTG.
Speaker 1: This bitch has only had a deal with the Republicans
Speaker 1: for like a week, but she knows she a better
Speaker 1: hire a security guard, like she knows how fucked up
Speaker 1: they are.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She has blasted Trump for vicious attacks amid a pipe
Speaker 1: bomb scare and death threat against her son since you know,
Speaker 1: she's been calling for the Epstein files to be released,
Speaker 1: and she has turned against Trump. Yeah, you know, she
Speaker 1: waited until her pension. You know, they only have to
Speaker 1: be in Congress for five years to get a pension.
Speaker 1: By the way, crazy damn. Yeah. They raped the country
Speaker 1: in so many ways and she went in. I mean
Speaker 1: she had money, but she has a hell of a
Speaker 1: lot more money now because insider trading. Yeah. Anyway, Marge,
Speaker 1: who is still a psychopath, Yes, has made some sense
Speaker 1: lately and it hasn't gone well with MEGA And now
Speaker 1: she quits and she's gone. She's resigning. Yeah, and she's
Speaker 1: not retiring, she's resigning, which means they're going to be
Speaker 1: down a seat until it's filled. She knows that.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he withdrew his support from her because she broke
Speaker 1: with her party on several issues, most recently the approach
Speaker 1: to healthcare and the government shut down, and their opposition
Speaker 1: to legislation that would order the release of the government's files.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, Yes, every fucking time I had to agree
Speaker 1: with her, I was angry. Is that because I hate
Speaker 1: this woman? I mean, she's still the one that put
Speaker 1: the billboard outside her office that said there are only
Speaker 1: two genders, not She's a piece of shit, and she's
Speaker 1: never going to not be a piece of shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't trust her just because she happens to be
Speaker 2: technically correct.
Speaker 1: Apparently she can read the tea leaves though, and she
Speaker 1: has turned against her party and they're michigoths and she's
Speaker 1: going to pick up her marbles and go back to Georgia.
Speaker 1: And there is speculation she will be running for president.
Speaker 1: Bitch please Yeah, but ju Ju way now, because you
Speaker 1: know she knows that the leopards do at your face
Speaker 1: and now they're aimed at her. Oh, I'm sorry. Right,
Speaker 1: you've been account to us for all these years and
Speaker 1: you weren't afraid then, right? It only took a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks against your own people to know they have
Speaker 1: no limits. Nope, hmmm interesting right, anyway, that's why that
Speaker 1: belongs here. This has been your moment.
Speaker 5: Of employ people taking pleasure real name?
Speaker 1: Yay, I missed that so on the way out to
Speaker 1: the break And it has certainly been a minute since
Speaker 1: I asked this question. I should have been able to
Speaker 1: pick up just because I'm back. But anyway, do you
Speaker 1: have a fifteen minute pap? Tell us about it.
Speaker 2: So we recently honored the one year anniversary of my
Speaker 2: brother in law John's passing.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 2: I was looking for this song that he loved that
Speaker 2: I also loved that I heard a lot growing up,
Speaker 2: but I had no idea how to begin to go
Speaker 2: about finding it. I went on a hunt, and luckily
Speaker 2: my sister, between me, her and context Clues were able
Speaker 2: to figure out what the song was. And I've been
Speaker 2: listening to it on and off since. It is by
Speaker 2: Willie Cologne and Reuben Blades and it is called Pedro
Speaker 2: Navaja and I just love this song. I've always loved
Speaker 2: it as a kid, and it's basically about this badass
Speaker 2: dude who walks around town and everybody the women want
Speaker 2: him and the men want to be like him.
Speaker 1: So it's bad, badly very brown.
Speaker 2: He's banished something like that. So we're gonna go out
Speaker 2: to the break with Pedro Navaja by Willie Cologne and
Speaker 2: ruben blades.
Speaker 1: And this is sir John. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 6: reve Brian Doo comtres guadras, quina una muher parre coriento
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Speaker 6: parol vida Kelda stavloco in cleanesaravahar dasamuespaci to la venda
Speaker 6: no marcas perroto save Pedro Nava, las Manosi, predentro Gava
Speaker 6: viras onlo well Via brigard me andras Kamena pasa la
Speaker 6: vistas kina squina No seven alma is not easier.
Speaker 2: M h.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 1: And we are back. We're back, Okay, I haven't missed
Speaker 1: this part. It's time for the cavalcave. Of nonsense, and
Speaker 1: boy is it hmmm. A trans man was harassed by
Speaker 1: security and kicked out of the women's bathroom in Illinois.
Speaker 1: This is what y'all said you wanted, right, It's almost
Speaker 1: like what you really want is for us to not
Speaker 1: exist at all, really, because this keeps happening to butcher
Speaker 1: women too. Yeah, and some of them are you know,
Speaker 1: sisht Yeah, and they just happened to, you know, be
Speaker 1: a little more masculine looking due to picos or you
Speaker 1: know whatever. And they're getting fucked with two because people
Speaker 1: are crazy. A transman says security guards harassed and threatened
Speaker 1: him with arrest while using the bathroom at an Illinois
Speaker 1: arcade bar in September, alleging that one called him a
Speaker 1: danger to children. Y'all need to check who's a danger
Speaker 1: to children, because it is not us.
Speaker 2: Y'all are thinking of sis man, y'all.
Speaker 1: Are thinking of yep, you are. You are the ones
Speaker 1: who are pointing their fingers are the ones you need
Speaker 1: to look at.
Speaker 2: I learned in the third grade when you point one finger,
Speaker 2: you got three point backage.
Speaker 1: Or you should. Yeah, it's going to happen more and
Speaker 1: more often. I'm not going to belabor this, but it's
Speaker 1: that is going to happen more and more often. If
Speaker 1: you want to send me to the men's room, it's
Speaker 1: going to be a riot. And likewise, how many trans
Speaker 1: room I pictured you want to send that dude? Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't go.
Speaker 2: Well that's been a a nd.
Speaker 1: He'll kick your ass when you question him, because.
Speaker 2: That's becoming a growing movement on social media, these like
Speaker 2: burly ass trans men going, you want me in the
Speaker 2: women's restroom?
Speaker 1: I do not.
Speaker 2: I do not.
Speaker 1: And they haven't thought any of this through. And you
Speaker 1: know what, the women the cis, women who are claiming
Speaker 1: this is about protecting women and joining in with these
Speaker 1: yahoos deserve everything that's coming to them. Well, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but you're inviting it. You're inviting it. This is not feminism. Nope,
Speaker 1: you want to exclude us. You know you want to
Speaker 1: say this is about protecting your children. You are not
Speaker 1: protecting your fucking children because your husband's the problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: check out the little league team he coaches. Well, and
Speaker 1: stay the fuck out of my life, and I will
Speaker 1: stay out of yours. I only go in there to
Speaker 1: pee and check my makeup.
Speaker 2: Damn it.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Donald Trump's East Wing demolition trashes Eleanor Roosevelt's queer legacy.
Speaker 1: That's the headline. She held the first press conference by
Speaker 1: a first lady in the East Wing. It became a
Speaker 1: base for her activism. Yeah. Yeah, he's demolishing everything. Literally,
Speaker 1: he's stepping on everything that's good and worthy and worthwhile
Speaker 1: because that's what he is and that is what his
Speaker 1: legacy will be.
Speaker 2: If you give a pig a sledgehammer kind.
Speaker 1: Of kind of, it'll kiss a minor.
Speaker 2: Goddamn. Now would they burn that book?
Speaker 1: Nope? I mean maybe I don't know. Yeah. See, but
Speaker 1: but the fact that queer people exist, that's the problem,
Speaker 1: not y'all Jesus Christ. Anyway, Like we know what's happening.
Speaker 1: This is an article in The Advocate talking about you know,
Speaker 1: it's awful. It's awful, disgraceful. You know, Betty Ford said
Speaker 1: of the East Wing. If the West Wing is the
Speaker 1: mind of the nation, then the East Wing is the heart. Well,
Speaker 1: he cut their heart out, which was expected. I mean
Speaker 1: he's he's imboldened. He's doing everything he kind of throttled before.
Speaker 1: It's a mess. The Olympics, in all of their courage,
Speaker 1: moved to band trans women. Oh yeah, and we're talking
Speaker 1: about the really small numbers, right, and cis female athletes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with male levels of testosterone. Even if you come by
Speaker 1: it naturally, ladies, they don't want you. Yeah. The IOC
Speaker 1: head Kirsty Coventry previously said she would come up with
Speaker 1: new guidelines to protect the female category first and foremost.
Speaker 1: It was fine. It was protected, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: But okay, the International Olympic Committee, the IOC, is moving
Speaker 1: toward a decision on whether trans women can compete in
Speaker 1: women's sports. Yeah. Just looking for the punchline because I'm
Speaker 1: so sick of all this conversation. I mean, we knew
Speaker 1: whe the goglins were. They were stringent before. We are
Speaker 1: not dominating any goddamn sport. Pay attention, right. Yeah. In February,
Speaker 1: Trump signed an executive order prohibiting trans student athletes from
Speaker 1: participating in women's sports. Yes he did. Although the order
Speaker 1: mainly targets trans athletic competition at the KA twelve level,
Speaker 1: it also orders representatives of major athletic bodies to promote
Speaker 1: policies that are fair and safe, which they used to
Speaker 1: be in the best interests of female athletes. As we
Speaker 1: just defined females and apparently they can have very much
Speaker 1: testosterone consistent with the requirements of Title nine. Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 1: The US Olympic and Paralympic Committee, the USOPC, and the
Speaker 1: National Collegiate Athletic Association the NCAA barred trans women and
Speaker 1: girls from women's sports, despite the order itself not carrying
Speaker 1: the power to mandate a unilateral man And what are
Speaker 1: we talking about? Five people? Is it ten? Could it
Speaker 1: possibly be ten? What is the threat? And where are
Speaker 1: these record holders that are just getting in the way
Speaker 1: of everyone?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Or is it that you mainly abenis? I'd like, I
Speaker 1: don't even what the fuck? Seriously seriously, and who's complaining?
Speaker 1: There are gonna be women and this is gonna you know,
Speaker 1: who's gonna get hurt more, who's gonna who's gonna pay
Speaker 1: how many African yes women, oh yeah, happen to have
Speaker 1: Yeah mm hmmm, two birds right, one stone.
Speaker 2: But my whole thing is, like, it's one thing when
Speaker 2: you talk about like the regular playing field of sports,
Speaker 2: where it's like these mediocre, like mediocre people complaining about
Speaker 2: unfair advantage, But it's the fucking Olympics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: It is supposed to be any mediocrity. So if you're
Speaker 2: that big and bad, then it doesn't matter who's competing
Speaker 2: against you.
Speaker 1: And can I just say, is this really what matters
Speaker 1: in the world? No, never did, never did, never did.
Speaker 1: Could all go away and everyone would be fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, let's keep doing this. Let's keep doing this.
Speaker 1: And you know, again, we're talking about a minute number
Speaker 1: of people. There are over one thousand Jeffrey Epstein victims,
Speaker 1: ding ding ding. How many of them did Trump fuck
Speaker 1: when they were thirteen and fourteen and fifteen years old?
Speaker 1: But let's talk about trans.
Speaker 2: As many as shy, as many as he could.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, he commuted George Santos' sentence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's the one releasing criminals on the street people. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: including the insurrectionist that he pardoned. Yeah, brilliant, brilliant strategies
Speaker 1: all the way around. Supreme Court is probably going to
Speaker 1: rule against conversion therapy ban, you know, because they keep saying,
Speaker 1: we're complating it with you know, the the aversion practices.
Speaker 1: We're also talking about talk therapy. Never in the history
Speaker 1: of ever has any version of conversion therapy worked. Nope, Yes,
Speaker 1: there are self living people who were taught to hate
Speaker 1: themselves yep, who think that they're going to a professional
Speaker 1: who can help them not be queer or trans and
Speaker 1: it's never once worked. They delude themselves for a time
Speaker 1: sometimes m hm, and start organizations like I don't know, exodus, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they wind up in a same sex relationship
Speaker 1: apologizing for all the people who killed themselves at their hand.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, that is what happens. It's
Speaker 1: a cycle.
Speaker 2: We know it.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows it, and fuck the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: The only way conversion therapy quote unquote works is when
Speaker 2: the person kills themselves.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, one less and I think that's how they
Speaker 1: look at it. I think that's how they must look
Speaker 1: at it. Well one get yeah, yep. People like is
Speaker 1: you know, working to tell the real story about conversion therapy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we watched a couple of the videos they were
Speaker 2: on their YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: They are releasing a short documentary refaming the debate in
Speaker 1: human terms. They are short, like twelve minute films called
Speaker 1: I Changed My Mind. We did watch a couple of them.
Speaker 1: I think that look it up and give a few
Speaker 1: a listen. I mean, most of our listeners are just
Speaker 1: kind of you know, cheer on the choir, but some
Speaker 1: they are some of the stories of folks who were
Speaker 1: steeped in religion and and you know, chose love instead.
Speaker 2: It's always better that way.
Speaker 1: And you know, by the way, Pray Away has been
Speaker 1: out on Netflix for I don't know how many years now,
Speaker 1: Go watch it. Yeah, and I think it should be
Speaker 1: required watching for the Supreme Court before they decide to
Speaker 1: word rule about conversion therapy, because you know, we can't
Speaker 1: even get what's his name this de sober? Oh yeah, Cavanal, Cavanal.
Speaker 1: Let's see what else. A woman was charged with a
Speaker 1: hate crime for spray painting a trans symbol near a
Speaker 1: Christian school. It's really happened. She was bullied at the
Speaker 1: school as a kid, but parents of kids at the
Speaker 1: school say they thought the transsembol meant a school shooting
Speaker 1: was coming. Really, really, did you? A woman was charged
Speaker 1: with a hate crime after she spray painted a transgender
Speaker 1: symbol near a Catholic elementary school in Maryland, and she
Speaker 1: pleaded guilty to charges of defacing the property of a
Speaker 1: religious institution and malicious destruction of property, which are both misdemeanors.
Speaker 1: She was accused of spray painting the combined male female symbol,
Speaker 1: which they wouldn't know what it is. I guess right,
Speaker 1: But it meant that there was going to be a
Speaker 1: school shooting really okay near the Saints Peter and Paul
Speaker 1: Elementary School in Easton, Maryland.
Speaker 2: These people need to pray for brains.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Parents of kids in school claimed that it made
Speaker 1: them afraid because there was a school shooting in Minnesota
Speaker 1: in August that was allegedly carried out by a transgender person.
Speaker 1: Um most mass shooters again, oh, sis and heterosexual identified
Speaker 1: and men right not transfer But okay, yeah, be afraid,
Speaker 1: be very afraid. Dumb bitch is going.
Speaker 2: Dumb bitch.
Speaker 1: She's spray painted the symbol because she wanted people to
Speaker 1: know what it meant and to create a sense of
Speaker 1: space for herself. Oh God, people don't know what stink
Speaker 1: things through. She was arrested in charge with a hate
Speaker 1: crime against who. Again, if I wish they had to
Speaker 1: choke on irony, because then they would think about it.
Speaker 1: Marilynd's hate crimes statute includes the use of hate symbols,
Speaker 1: which this is not, and lists newses and swastikas as
Speaker 1: examples of such symbols agreed. She was held in jail
Speaker 1: with men without the possibility of bail, and denied access
Speaker 1: to healthcare for two months. She was sentenced to time
Speaker 1: served and five years probation. The school's lawyer pushed for
Speaker 1: her to be held without bail, of course, and then
Speaker 1: said that his severe response to the vandalism has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the transgender identity. Oh yes it does.
Speaker 1: This was never about danger, her lawyer, Laurence Greenberg said,
Speaker 1: it was about discrimination, of course.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: That is not a hate symbol. That was not a
Speaker 1: hit crime. I mean, if anything, was probably a cry
Speaker 1: for help. But yeah, let's let's make sure we punish
Speaker 1: her to the full extent of our fear so she
Speaker 1: doesn't do that again.
Speaker 2: You know how, let me say, they better be glad
Speaker 2: we want justice and that revenge. Yeah, keep fucking around,
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna be able to tell the difference.
Speaker 1: When mom Donnie won to what happened to Deborah Messy?
Speaker 1: What what happened?
Speaker 2: It was? On election day, she posted something like ninety
Speaker 2: something memes and articles on her Instagram story.
Speaker 1: Essentially calling the new mayor a terrorist. If I'm yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: and this is this is before because he has Muslims, right,
Speaker 1: this is before he.
Speaker 2: Was even elected. This was that whole election day. There
Speaker 2: was several of those things were Islamophobic, a lot of
Speaker 2: things calling him anti Semitic, anti Israeli, a lot of
Speaker 2: pro Israel stuff, some racist shit, some pro Trump shit
Speaker 2: that like I'm not even sure if that's what she
Speaker 2: meant to do, but it was like.
Speaker 1: Girl, hmmm, girl, it was a lot. It was like
Speaker 1: crying and like sweating, and I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was having a happy night. I didn't need to see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: It's like she's been in a couple of days afterwards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's I don't have to move now, progressively problematic
Speaker 2: over the past couple of years anyway, And she was
Speaker 2: on willing great, I know, dear God, It's like, I'm wondering, what.
Speaker 1: Does she think is going to happen? What does she
Speaker 1: think he's gonna do.
Speaker 2: They're gonna put her on a train and take her
Speaker 2: to a camp directly?
Speaker 1: Oh honey, I think they're going to put me on
Speaker 1: one first. But he's not right, and I think you're
Speaker 1: pretty safe with him too. What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah? She losing her rabbit ass mine and I used
Speaker 2: to have way more love and respect for her.
Speaker 1: I know, thoughts and prayers. I guess get some help.
Speaker 2: I hope she does, sincerely, Like, no, Shade, get some help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of gets some help. What the fuck is
Speaker 1: up with Nicki MINAJH girl? Where did she lose her mind?
Speaker 2: Well, she's been deteriorating the past few years. Drug use
Speaker 2: has been suspected.
Speaker 1: Mmm.
Speaker 2: Like she's been having mountdowns in real time on social media.
Speaker 2: But usually it was like every time another female rapper
Speaker 2: did anything good, usually Cardi B, she would mount down.
Speaker 2: But her rants have become transphobic, have come just more
Speaker 2: and more unhinged. And then recently she just straight up
Speaker 2: started supporting Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Yeah no men and women's sports.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, okay, if it weren't for the LGBTQ community,
Speaker 2: she would not have a fucking career. Let's start with that.
Speaker 1: Well, then let's make sure she doesn't. What the fuck.
Speaker 1: I hope her followers are going, what the fuck? Cause
Speaker 1: what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Exactly what you just said? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 2: Like Cardi B even tweeted at her, she was like,
Speaker 2: I say this with love and respect. You need to
Speaker 2: go to therapy.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And stop doing drugs, stop letting the man that lives
Speaker 2: in your house spend all your money and keep you
Speaker 2: high all day because this is not working out for you.
Speaker 1: Says no shit. Good good for Cardi B Thank you
Speaker 1: to your God. Yeah, it makes it's making no sense
Speaker 1: and it's m it's messy.
Speaker 2: You know. I was just starting to get to the
Speaker 2: point where I was openly admitting that I liked her,
Speaker 2: and then she sucked it up.
Speaker 1: I don't like her. I'm done. I'm done. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm done. I'm done once you, once you I
Speaker 1: I don't know if there was a bigger bet Middler
Speaker 1: fan than me right until until until I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she doubled down on her on her turf
Speaker 1: bullshit and uh yeah, broke my heart. And still don't
Speaker 1: care what she does at this point because you know
Speaker 1: what you did break my heart. Yeah, and what you
Speaker 1: say matters to a whole lot of people, and you
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can't unring that bell.
Speaker 1: No, you really can't. And you have the chance to.
Speaker 1: You could have been gracious, you cut a rethought that ugliness,
Speaker 1: but you did not, you know, And it's sad, but
Speaker 1: once it happens. I can't stop seeing you, right, I can't.
Speaker 1: You showed your ass. We all saw it. Okay, now
Speaker 1: we know. I believe you the first time. Mother Maya
Speaker 1: taught me that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still mad at Kanye. Well, it's like so
Speaker 2: many of his songs I've been wanting to listen to,
Speaker 2: but I can't because I can Well, no, I can't,
Speaker 2: because then he'll get money off the streams and I
Speaker 2: can't support that. And like I'll be putting shit on
Speaker 2: shuffle and one of his songs will come on and
Speaker 2: then I get mad and then I have to stop
Speaker 2: and I have to take the song out of my rotation.
Speaker 2: It's like, now you make an extra work for me. Well,
Speaker 2: that's true, it's you crazy.
Speaker 1: All right. Before we get any more angry and we're
Speaker 1: kind of veering already into pop culture, we're going to
Speaker 1: take one more break and then we're going to come
Speaker 1: back and we are going to pop the culture and
Speaker 1: cleanse those bells.
Speaker 3: Hellolujah, we'll be right back, all right, be right back,
Speaker 3: and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back.
Speaker 2: Cut.
Speaker 1: So we watched Eddie Murphy's documentary, Yes, Being Eddie. It
Speaker 1: was Being Eddie very good apart from the Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: of it all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. It was a really good, well
Speaker 2: done documentary, except for the fact that they insisted on
Speaker 2: including Dave Chappelle and Jerry Seinfeld a.
Speaker 1: Lot they did. Why do we not like Jerry?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: He did he do something?
Speaker 2: Comedians can't say anything anymore because woke it can't and
Speaker 2: cancel culture.
Speaker 1: Did he say that? Really? Huh? Didn't know that. I
Speaker 1: know what Dave Chappelle said. Anyway. Eddie Murphy interestingly talked
Speaker 1: about Yule Brenner trying to proposition him for an encounter
Speaker 1: with Yule and his wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he didn't realize until he had it was home.
Speaker 1: And he was like, wait a minute, now, I wish
Speaker 1: I would have went and fucked his wife in front
Speaker 1: of him, And yeah, that's a story. It would have
Speaker 1: been a story. It was worth watching. And he's kind
Speaker 1: of become very zen. We did see his retractable roof
Speaker 1: close and yeah, but arguably a game changer. I mean
Speaker 1: arguably and so many levels. And you know the thing
Speaker 1: that I the little aha moment I had because I
Speaker 1: had never thought about it, but God knows, we've done it,
Speaker 1: and we do it to women. We do it to
Speaker 1: minorities was when they sort of talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: being the next Richard Pryor and Richard Pryor is still
Speaker 1: around and creating this sort of false sense of a
Speaker 1: feud or what have you. Because there can only be one,
Speaker 1: right black comedian. There can only be one superstar. There
Speaker 1: can only be one. And I hadn't thought about that,
Speaker 1: hm and I went, God, damn, Well that is so manufactured.
Speaker 1: Why can't there be Why can't they both exist and
Speaker 1: be brilliant at the same time. Well, that's the same planet.
Speaker 2: Part of what initially started driving Nicki Minaj crazy. They
Speaker 2: were doing that shit with her. It's like, there can
Speaker 2: only be one female rapper who's successful. Then Cardi B
Speaker 2: came along and well first it was Lil Kim and
Speaker 2: then Nicki Minaj came along and they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's the next Little Kim. Then Cardi B came along,
Speaker 2: She's the next to Nicki Minaj.
Speaker 1: It's like, which we don't have to do, We don't
Speaker 1: and nor should we sit there and allow it. Addie
Speaker 1: Murphy didn't, right, but yeah, and we have done this
Speaker 1: to women for years, you know, like there's so many
Speaker 1: stories especially like in the nineteen fifties of the b
Speaker 1: actresses who didn't make it past that status, like Jane
Speaker 1: Mansfield because there was already Marilyn Monroe, et cetera. You know,
Speaker 1: we had one where she looked too much like X
Speaker 1: or yeah, well her style was too much like why
Speaker 1: so we had the one. We couldn't have two.
Speaker 2: And then Robert Townsend touched on this as a joke
Speaker 2: in the movie Hollywood Shuffle, how like, if you wanted,
Speaker 2: if you were a black actor trying to like make it,
Speaker 2: you had to be like if they're looking for an
Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy type, you had to be that.
Speaker 1: But he rightly said, you know, I opened the door.
Speaker 1: It's Trenzel. I opened the door for you know, it's
Speaker 1: a matrist. And he's right.
Speaker 2: Arguably, forty eight Hours was the original Buddy movie m
Speaker 2: It's like, look at how the formula like follows that,
Speaker 2: you know and the cool young black action starr. They
Speaker 2: tried to replicate it a couple of times, like they
Speaker 2: tried to do it with Carl Weather's action Jackson. They
Speaker 2: tried to do it a Whoopee Goldberg, But that also
Speaker 2: can be chalked up to they didn't know what the
Speaker 2: fuck to do with her.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true, but she did, okay, yo, one could
Speaker 1: easily say she founded me.
Speaker 2: She did. But like right after, like when she were
Speaker 2: first trying to like after Color Purple, they were trying
Speaker 2: to like find a way to like make her like
Speaker 2: the mainstream hit and like they tried it with over
Speaker 2: Here with Jumpin Jack Flash and like that was great
Speaker 2: but didn't do exactly what they were looking for. Then
Speaker 2: they tried to with Burglar and then that didn't work.
Speaker 2: They tried to with Fatal Beauty. That didn't work. They
Speaker 2: tried to make her an indie star Telephone and that
Speaker 2: was just horrible.
Speaker 1: Sister Act was okay.
Speaker 2: Sister Act was like when it that, that's the one
Speaker 2: that did it.
Speaker 1: Anyway worth seeing? I agree. It was a good watch.
Speaker 1: It was Netflix, right, I believe, Yeah, Netflix being Eddie right, Yes, yep,
Speaker 1: watch it. So MTV is shutting down, Oh yeah, all
Speaker 1: their music TV channels.
Speaker 2: It's officially the end of the era, like.
Speaker 1: MTV, like they're going to exist, but they won't be MTV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well, I mean it's been that way for
Speaker 2: a while. It's been like nine reality no music videos.
Speaker 1: But remember when that's all it was.
Speaker 2: I Do to Real World was like the turning point
Speaker 2: was like, I know, what's this? What is this? Because
Speaker 2: music videos that's what MTV was. Yeah, I miss original
Speaker 2: recipe Real World? Do you I do well? Because like
Speaker 2: it was nothing like it but that and then like
Speaker 2: after that, once you know what it is, you're self
Speaker 2: aware and you start producing yourself and then it becomes
Speaker 2: what it became. But the originally was an experiment, like
Speaker 2: so rip the m in music and MTV.
Speaker 1: It's now TV taving so many things that we watched
Speaker 1: since the last time I record, I'll plow through it.
Speaker 2: I watched the ice Cube War.
Speaker 1: Of the World.
Speaker 2: It was horrible. Okay, I didn't know the whole thing
Speaker 2: took place on computer screens because it was done during
Speaker 2: the pandemic. So it was like, you know, if you
Speaker 2: work for the NSSA and so you're seeing the entire
Speaker 2: world via a computer screen, what was it looked like, child,
Speaker 2: don't do it to yourself.
Speaker 1: Okay, it looked like it was.
Speaker 2: It's spent eight it costs eighty three dollars to make.
Speaker 1: Not a recommendation. No Thursday Murder Club.
Speaker 2: That was fun.
Speaker 1: That was fun. And I want it to be like
Speaker 1: a series wanted to, you know, grow. It was good,
Speaker 1: well done.
Speaker 2: A bunch of older, intelligent folks in a high falutin
Speaker 2: retirement community. They have a little club where they get
Speaker 2: together and visit cold cases and see if they can
Speaker 2: solve it. And it got deeper than they anticipated.
Speaker 1: It was good.
Speaker 2: It was very good.
Speaker 1: It was good and I could see it. It was
Speaker 1: like a better only Murders in the Building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a whole season and that that I haven't
Speaker 2: even touched yet, I know.
Speaker 1: But I liked Netflix as well, right, I believe so.
Speaker 1: I think so absolutely worth watching as a movie and
Speaker 1: you'll see what we mean. It feels like it should
Speaker 1: you know, be your companion for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the cast was week Perce Brosnan. Was it Helen Mirren?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 2: It was very good.
Speaker 1: It was good, good cast, great acting, good writing. It
Speaker 1: was It was definitely worth saying. That was a cathe recommendation. Yes,
Speaker 1: what the hell is? K Pop? Demon Hunters.
Speaker 2: Is got kids on a death grip. It's an animated
Speaker 2: movie on Netflix about this group of K pop singers
Speaker 2: who are also demon hunters and their job is to
Speaker 2: like there's a barrier that keeps the demons from Earth,
Speaker 2: and their music is what creates the vibrations, like with
Speaker 2: the fans. As long as the fans are happy with
Speaker 2: their music, then the barrier is strong. And so like
Speaker 2: the demons created their own K pop group to battle them,
Speaker 2: and like it was. I watched it because Lisa kept
Speaker 2: badgering me to watch it because she's obsessed with K pop,
Speaker 2: Like you gotta watch it, And it was actually fun
Speaker 2: and the music is great, like I've listened to the
Speaker 2: soundtrack like on my own. It's just good, Like it
Speaker 2: was fun K pop Demon Hunters. You're looking at me
Speaker 2: with this confused look on your face. It's like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Is this why you still don't always pick up yourselves
Speaker 1: even after I threw most of them away?
Speaker 2: Oh slash, Yes, but yeah, like the stars of the
Speaker 2: the Voice actors have become like ridiculously famous on their
Speaker 2: own right, the songwriters have become ridiculously famous in their
Speaker 2: own right. It's great.
Speaker 1: I don't always understand y'all, and I don't have to,
Speaker 1: It's fine.
Speaker 2: I finally watched the movie Barbarian by the director who
Speaker 2: brought us Weapons, which I also saw Barbarian was a journey.
Speaker 2: It's a horror movie, so you'll never see it. But
Speaker 2: basically every time you think you know what's gonna happen next,
Speaker 2: no you don't. Not one time, was I right? Okay?
Speaker 1: So that was fun. Is that a recommendation, Yes, I
Speaker 1: recommend barbe Okay. The next one I made you watch
Speaker 1: Nonah's Nona's. It is such a sweet, sweet movie. Sonnah's
Speaker 1: is based on a true story about a restaurant in
Speaker 1: Staten Island where actual Italian grandmothers cooked the cuisine of
Speaker 1: their roots, and Vince Vaughan plays the man with the vision.
Speaker 1: Brenda Bagaro, who I have not seen in ages is
Speaker 1: one of the Nonahs. Lorraine Brocco and Italias Shire who
Speaker 1: I have not seen and I didn't recognize her the
Speaker 1: first time through from from from Godfather. They're the Nonah's
Speaker 1: in the movie.
Speaker 2: And Susan Saranda, Susan Sarandon, Tamny Pescatelli, well she was
Speaker 2: in it, but she was minor part. But Joe Imaginilow
Speaker 2: was in there.
Speaker 1: He was the best friend. I haven't seen him in
Speaker 1: a while, and sold his dad's fifty nine Plymouth fury
Speaker 1: to fund the restaurant, and then I believe Vince Vaughan
Speaker 1: got it back for him, right, But it was. It's
Speaker 1: a sweet movie. I love cooking movies. I love movies
Speaker 1: about food in the way food brings us together and
Speaker 1: the way the way we have sense memory. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know the way, and you know because one of the
Speaker 1: storylines is Vince Vaughn trying to replicate the sauce his
Speaker 1: mother and his grandmother used to make every Sunday, and
Speaker 1: he can't quite figure it out, the sweetness in the sauce.
Speaker 1: He can't figure it out. And it's not sugar and
Speaker 1: it's not honey, and it's not maple syrup and any.
Speaker 2: And don't spoil it.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to spoil it. But he finally figures
Speaker 1: it out and it's you know, there's so much, there's layers.
Speaker 1: It is just sweet and feel good. You found tried
Speaker 1: and I found the recipe and it's good made it
Speaker 1: It is good. It's it's I've seen it now at
Speaker 1: least three times, yeah, at least three times, and I
Speaker 1: love it. I love the movie. I love this story.
Speaker 1: I love that it's based on a real story. Maybe
Speaker 1: one day we'll eat there. But I love the idea
Speaker 1: of it, and it was just well told. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love this. It's a Maretha movie right.
Speaker 2: There, it is a Martha movie. I love to see that.
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Owens got to got to be working as what
Speaker 2: he played, the health inspector, because like there was that
Speaker 2: time period where like he was not working in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: He for whatever reason, couldn't work in Hollywood, and he
Speaker 2: was spotted as a a bag boy in a Walmart
Speaker 2: or something, people trying to clown him for having a.
Speaker 1: Job job okay, known as highly recommen I believe that
Speaker 1: is also Netflix, right, yeah, this is why I'm here.
Speaker 1: We can't get rid of Netfox, despite how much I
Speaker 1: lose Dave Chappelle. No, no, it is worth the watch,
Speaker 1: Yes repeatedly, You're welcome. Yeah, so good. Yes, this other shit,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I see a list of words. Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: there's words here.
Speaker 2: Swallowed. I happened the pond. It was under LGB.
Speaker 1: That's a movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like, uh, they call it a horror movie,
Speaker 2: but it's not really. But it's like this gay dude
Speaker 2: is leaving town to go via a porn star in California.
Speaker 1: Oh, we watched this together.
Speaker 2: No we didn't.
Speaker 1: Yes we did. Oh, yes we did.
Speaker 2: No, I watched it at work by myself.
Speaker 1: No, we watched this one together? Or I watched it separate?
Speaker 2: You watch it separately.
Speaker 1: I saw it with the bugs bugs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't watch it together.
Speaker 1: He's going to California to be a Oh yeah with
Speaker 1: the bugs. Yes, that one.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we watched it him and his friend.
Speaker 1: A lot of dick. No, you watched it. Told me
Speaker 1: there's a lot of dick.
Speaker 2: And then you watched it, and there was a yeah,
Speaker 2: in no good way.
Speaker 1: Was there a lot of dick? But there was a
Speaker 1: lot of dock on the I didn't say. And it's
Speaker 1: good and hard dick, but yet yeah, unappealingly. So it
Speaker 1: was weird. It was a weird movie. It was not
Speaker 1: a me movie at all. I think I told you that,
Speaker 1: though you did, and I think I okay, dick and yeah,
Speaker 1: So what's your takeaway? Mine?
Speaker 2: Was I watched it? I don't. I'm not sorry I
Speaker 2: watched it. It's not bad, but it wasn't that great,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: And there's definitely dick in it, but sometimes dick for
Speaker 1: Dick's sake is a miss a swing a miss.
Speaker 2: Title title next a stupid. For some reason, I've decided
Speaker 2: to torture myself by going back and watching Girls.
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine why, but okay, you did the Leah
Speaker 1: Donald she got me the first time, She'll never get me.
Speaker 2: Well, it was like I remember, like why did I
Speaker 2: I feel like I hated that show so much? And
Speaker 2: now I go back and I'm watching it, like, and part.
Speaker 1: Of everything I hate about being white is surmise, like
Speaker 1: kind of encapsulated in Girls. Yeah, every every time I go, oh.
Speaker 2: Jesus, yeah, they call the girls because dumb bitches wasn't
Speaker 2: as good enough title. I guess even though it was
Speaker 2: more accurate.
Speaker 1: That would be misasionist.
Speaker 2: And accurate.
Speaker 1: It kind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not calling them dumb bitches because they're girls.
Speaker 2: I'm calling me dumb bitches because they're dumb bitches. You know.
Speaker 1: The one thing I thought about was like, because I
Speaker 1: say often like I didn't. It's not like I want
Speaker 1: to be a I don't want to be a woman.
Speaker 1: I don't. I just am I just damn. And if
Speaker 1: you want proof of that, watch Girls. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be that any more than I want to be white.
Speaker 1: I love Oh my god, I don't think you could be.
Speaker 1: But but you see my point, it's like, you know
Speaker 1: what we are, what we are, and uh, this is
Speaker 1: white women.
Speaker 2: Or that I'm really just watching it for the sake
Speaker 2: of completion, because like I'm in for a penny, in
Speaker 2: for a pound.
Speaker 1: But I just don't know why.
Speaker 2: I just what.
Speaker 1: Made you? I don't know, you know what, here's a
Speaker 1: good idea.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's something told me because it was
Speaker 2: such a hit, I'm like, let me let me know.
Speaker 1: But I didn't get through much of it.
Speaker 2: Try and watch it objective?
Speaker 1: Was it because people identified with it? Because I did not,
Speaker 1: And that was and that's where they lost me. Same
Speaker 1: with what's the one where they're all born on the
Speaker 1: same birthday and it's all like a big tear jerk,
Speaker 1: weekly tear jerk. It was like thirty something, Oh, this
Speaker 1: is us, yes, but no longer groundbreaking, this is us.
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I think I got two thirds
Speaker 1: of the way through the first one and then went,
Speaker 1: no fucking watching this. There's no reason on God's earth
Speaker 1: I would watch this, and I never did.
Speaker 2: So I think I'm approaching girls academically, like I'm trying
Speaker 2: to figure out why was this popular.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, no, I guess that's a that's a way
Speaker 1: to approach it. Because I couldn't figure it out and
Speaker 1: I stopped watching it. I guess I've found them insufferable.
Speaker 2: They are, But I guess if you're.
Speaker 1: A but I'm not entertained by the insufferable. If I
Speaker 1: want to see unsufferable people, all I have to do
Speaker 1: is go to work as a trans person.
Speaker 2: But I guess if you're a young, up and coming,
Speaker 2: self absorbed white girl who's trying to make a way
Speaker 2: for herself using your whiteness as a sword and shield,
Speaker 2: I guess it appeals to you.
Speaker 1: Huh maybe yeah, that's yeah. Okay, so academically you have
Speaker 1: been watching girls kind good on you. I'm not joining you.
Speaker 1: I don't know this next one either.
Speaker 2: I was listening to a podcast that analyzes horror movies
Speaker 2: that I love, and they were they were. One of
Speaker 2: the episodes was Deaf by Temptation, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that movie in a long time. And
Speaker 2: it was like, you know, foundational independent horror films not
Speaker 2: with death but deaf, deaf, d e F and right
Speaker 2: because it's an all black cast early nineties, and you
Speaker 2: know deaf is was this like deaf jam right? Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know what death means like cool, like high
Speaker 2: quality dynamic? H Yo, that was deaf.
Speaker 1: It's dynamic by temptation. Huh.
Speaker 2: The title actually makes sense. It was really just to
Speaker 2: let you know that it's black.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and and rewatching it like it was Actually
Speaker 2: it held up. You know, it was pretty good.
Speaker 1: It was well done.
Speaker 2: Let's see what else.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I watched Weapons finally because it was available in streaming.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see it when it was in the theaters,
Speaker 2: but I missed it. And that movie is fun. Same
Speaker 2: director that did Barbarians, and it's a ride. I recommend Weapons.
Speaker 2: It was fun. It's not really scary, but it's definitely
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I'm just over here.
Speaker 2: Every time you see children running, you should run the
Speaker 2: other way. I also watched The Substance finally. That movie
Speaker 2: Demi Moore earned her ask for now. Oh that's the
Speaker 2: one you were trying to describe to me. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I never want to watch. It's a commentary on like
Speaker 2: women aging in the public eye. Yes, it's the tip
Speaker 2: of the Iceberg, Joe, but I loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you mentioned and we watched we started rewatching,
Speaker 1: well not rewatching, but watching The Great British Baking Show.
Speaker 1: And once again I want to say, if you just
Speaker 1: want to watch something that's sweet and fun and wholesome, yeah,
Speaker 1: where they compete for a plate so they like help
Speaker 1: each other and it's just not American competition in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form, and the oven doors are cool. The
Speaker 1: Great British Baking Show is like it's really good for
Speaker 1: mental health, right, you know, silly, fun, interesting. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: learn a little about crumb and what happens if you
Speaker 1: under or over bake and beck like you know, and
Speaker 1: just to say bake. Yeah, it's just yeah, and.
Speaker 2: You learn how many fucking accents there are in the UK.
Speaker 1: There really are, goddamn. But no, it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: just a nice little comforting show. It is. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't know what v HS series.
Speaker 2: There's a series of horror movies called VHS and they're
Speaker 2: all like like found footage, first person POV. And I'm
Speaker 2: enjoying it, like it's mostly trash, but.
Speaker 1: It is one fine mostly trash. Where is this found?
Speaker 2: Oh? All over various street I'm cobbling it together, the
Speaker 2: various streaming services.
Speaker 1: This is also about the socks, isn't it shut?
Speaker 2: But a couple of like each one has a couple
Speaker 2: of standout sequences that are really cool, and the rest
Speaker 2: of it is trash. But what was interesting to me
Speaker 2: was like, after I was watching it for a while,
Speaker 2: I had a moment of blurred reality because it's all
Speaker 2: like first person point of view, like in you know,
Speaker 2: you're running around the dark with just the light.
Speaker 1: And I'm familiar.
Speaker 2: A good portion of my job is running around the
Speaker 2: dark with just the light. And there was a couple
Speaker 2: of times, well, like I had that blurred reality where
Speaker 2: I felt like I was still in the movie.
Speaker 1: You know, the job is the Blair Witch Project. No,
Speaker 1: it is that.
Speaker 2: It is that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, so that's the thing. But you're also
Speaker 1: watching Yes, okay, Boots we did watch together. Okay, the
Speaker 1: fucked up thing about Boots us you put it on
Speaker 1: in like the middle of episode five for some reason.
Speaker 1: That's where it started.
Speaker 2: That's where it started for me.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we share our password, but and it
Speaker 1: made no goddamn sense, and I was of all the
Speaker 1: places in the world to start a show like it
Speaker 1: assumes we know these characters. It assumes so much, like
Speaker 1: I hate this, it makes no sense. It just assumes
Speaker 1: so much. I mean, it was it was oh god, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a sterile white school teacher. It was awful,
Speaker 1: and it just assumed so. And then we realized we
Speaker 1: were We did not start at episode one at the beginning,
Speaker 1: so then we did that and it was so much better,
Speaker 1: and we actually enjoyed the series because it does build.
Speaker 1: It's one of those series that builds and you get
Speaker 1: to know the characters and you followed storyline, and then
Speaker 1: by the time you get to episode five, it made
Speaker 1: it so much more just interesting. You have to see
Speaker 1: one through four and a half otherwise it makes no
Speaker 1: goddamn sense and you get frustrated. It was good, it
Speaker 1: was good. It was good. I hope I actually hope
Speaker 1: there's another season. Yeah, it was, it was interesting, it
Speaker 1: was good. It was provocative, you know, mag I don't
Speaker 1: like it because they said it was woke. You know,
Speaker 1: it's about gay soldiers and fuck them, and that made
Speaker 1: me watch it harder. Exactly once we started it one,
Speaker 1: it worth seeing.
Speaker 2: That's what made me want to watch it. The fact
Speaker 2: that the also Netflix Depositive Defense was mad about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, Netflix, Yeah, it's worth seeing, absolutely worth seeing. Yes, layers,
Speaker 1: good writing, interesting characters, yeah yeah, Boots. Yeah, but started
Speaker 1: at episode one. Yeah. Better if you do, you'll thank
Speaker 1: me because I don't know how that happened. But that
Speaker 1: was fucked up. It's like, wow, that's the worst show ever.
Speaker 2: I hate this.
Speaker 1: See you lumped all of my shows together as if
Speaker 1: they don't matter.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's all of a theme.
Speaker 1: There is a theme, the theme being we watched too
Speaker 1: much television that I have supported my goals in the
Speaker 1: house with television, starting with Hoarders, and I did watch
Speaker 1: several seasons supporters. Some of it traumatic, of course, you
Speaker 1: know some of it My mother was My mother was
Speaker 1: a clean hoarder, but she was a hoarder. Started with Hoarders,
Speaker 1: moved on to Marie Condo, Yes, and others about cleaning
Speaker 1: and organizing and you know, saying goodbye to things and
Speaker 1: thanking them for their service and all that.
Speaker 2: But the thing about Hoarders was every time we got
Speaker 2: to a commercial break, you've got.
Speaker 1: Up in like away. Yes, it was very motivating, and
Speaker 1: that's been the theme that is the overall theme and
Speaker 1: watching home improvement shows, Hometown, Bargain Block, yes, all these others,
Speaker 1: like I binge them until they're done. I felt kind
Speaker 1: of bad for the boys on Bargain Block. They just disappeared,
Speaker 1: I know, like season five, they just stopped mid season.
Speaker 2: No more money for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you were researching that? What the hell happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They Tathen Evan Evan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, HGTV just pulled the plug on them.
Speaker 1: Was like they finally had a gay couple and they
Speaker 1: were doing cool shit. They were like rehabbing Detroit Detroit
Speaker 1: and selling at reasonable prices to first time home buyers.
Speaker 1: It was a very altruistic and lovely and cute. I mean,
Speaker 1: Keith was a pain in the s and he did
Speaker 1: over the top shit. But they had a mission with
Speaker 1: Shay as their realtor, you know, obligatory, funny black friend
Speaker 1: and whatever. It was good and they built like this
Speaker 1: whole It was also a smart realtor. Yes, but apparently
Speaker 1: behind the scenes something happened.
Speaker 2: It's never been made exactly clear what happened.
Speaker 1: It stopped mid season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just there was a disagreement between them and HGTV
Speaker 2: and HGGGV pulled the plug in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1: They probably said, you are not paying us near enough,
Speaker 1: and HGTV said, watch what happens when we pay you
Speaker 1: nothing exactly, because that's what happens when queer people speak up.
Speaker 2: Right, But like their business and Shay's business were all
Speaker 2: like very tied into the show. So when the show
Speaker 2: went away, it's like they had nothing right. So, I like,
Speaker 2: none of their websites have been updated in months.
Speaker 1: It's a shame. Yeah, I mean it's still helped me
Speaker 1: keep moving. Yeah, I've come up with some interesting ideas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: watching it because I am I'm dead set into again cleaning, organizing,
Speaker 1: not big a hoarder, and completing these projects on a budget. Right,
Speaker 1: So you know, it's all been motivating.
Speaker 2: I will say the order that we watch things made
Speaker 2: a huge difference because we were watching hoarders and watching
Speaker 2: these people like their goal is to like not have
Speaker 2: their house taken away from them. They don't get their
Speaker 2: shit together. And then when that was done, we started
Speaker 2: watching the home improvement shows and people having budgets of one, two, three,
Speaker 2: four or five hundred thousand dollars, And then you tried
Speaker 2: to go back and watch an episode of Holders, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't go backwards.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, I you know, it's
Speaker 1: my my, my loose theme idea where I've been living.
Speaker 1: Right now. It is making room, you know, making room
Speaker 1: for change, making room for what comes next, considering the
Speaker 1: things that we keep. I mean, when you look around
Speaker 1: at how many storage facilities, like it's a business storing
Speaker 1: the shit that doesn't fit in your house as a
Speaker 1: literal business model, something's wrong.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: We have way too much stuff, right, and for all
Speaker 1: kinds of reasons, and I am guilty of. You know,
Speaker 1: when we moved from my Philadelphia house to Above the Bar,
Speaker 1: it was not a pleasant move. It was a necessary one.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of stuff I wasn't willing to
Speaker 1: part with, and you know, so I packed things that
Speaker 1: in my right mind I would have gotten rid of,
Speaker 1: and some of that stuff I'm just unpacking now here.
Speaker 1: Years later, You're like, oh, I do own that, and
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know even why I packed it, you know,
Speaker 1: in multiples of things and things that were sentimental to
Speaker 1: this house but that I don't care about. And I'm
Speaker 1: able to say I don't care about that, you know,
Speaker 1: and move forward. So it's been good, it's been cathartic.
Speaker 1: We're stinning the possessions and trying to make sense of
Speaker 1: what we do have, you know. And one of the
Speaker 1: ideas that came out of all of those shows was,
Speaker 1: you know, you shouldn't be storing more than you have
Speaker 1: the room to store things, right right, whatever you keep
Speaker 1: should fit within whatever your alloted storage space might be. Yep,
Speaker 1: And I agree, makes sense, yeah, because we keep way
Speaker 1: too much shit, like, take a picture of it and
Speaker 1: get rid of it, right, you know, unless you love it,
Speaker 1: if you really really love it, then that's the justification
Speaker 1: for holding on to it. There was also what was
Speaker 1: it The Gentle Art of Death Cleaning Swedish death cleaning,
Speaker 1: Swedish death cleaning, and that was that was lovely.
Speaker 2: I'm mad that that show didn't have more episodes.
Speaker 1: I know that great. It was really good and it
Speaker 1: was about you know, how we keep things and what
Speaker 1: do we keep and can we pass things on now
Speaker 1: along with the stories that go with the items and
Speaker 1: the generations, and.
Speaker 2: Not leaving a huge mass behind right for people after you.
Speaker 1: Go like my parents did, right, not leaving all of
Speaker 1: that behind, but having dealt with it, but dealt with
Speaker 1: it in thoughtful and lovely ways.
Speaker 2: Right, passing along the things that you want passed along
Speaker 2: with the actual intention being made own to the people.
Speaker 2: And they're being rhyme, reason and purpose to what you keep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nice. They made like different boxes, like
Speaker 1: gift boxes with the story of why this item is
Speaker 1: in the box, and it was it was so lovely.
Speaker 1: It's definitely worth watching. I forget where we found it,
Speaker 1: but it's Hulu or something, but the gentle art of
Speaker 1: Swedish death cleaning.
Speaker 2: And we learned a word that we used to this day, fika.
Speaker 1: It's just I'll be bright, yes, fika at which they
Speaker 1: take every episode. Yes, that's been the theme that's been
Speaker 1: where I've you know, there has been actual reason for
Speaker 1: what I've been watching, and it has helped inform, you know,
Speaker 1: getting ready for the next chapter, getting ready for the
Speaker 1: you know, whatever comes next in the new year, and
Speaker 1: you know, maintaining my energy for all the things that
Speaker 1: I all already have going on. Yeah, and the house
Speaker 1: is getting better. We're finally finishing jobs that needed to
Speaker 1: man for a long time exactly. Yeah, So as we
Speaker 1: enter this, it is Thanksgiving week in two days, you know,
Speaker 1: made up holiday, but whatever. A lot to be thankful for, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot to be thankful. We will have a small
Speaker 1: dinner which Kathy has mostly catered with some homemade stuff,
Speaker 1: and that'll be nice. It'll be nice. Yeah, I'm grateful
Speaker 1: for a lot of things. It's been an interesting ride
Speaker 1: since September. I'm really happy to be back on the microphone.
Speaker 5: Yay.
Speaker 1: Thanks and you we're gonna keep doing this on the
Speaker 1: regular now because.
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