Speaker 1: Okay, okay, if I am six forty live everywhere in
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app is tech Thursday. You know that means
Speaker 1: Marshall Caller joins me in studio. Marsh is great to
Speaker 1: have you here each and every week. How are you
Speaker 1: this evening.
Speaker 2: It's so great to actually see you because when we
Speaker 2: have a camera, I can't see you.
Speaker 1: I know they can't see the layout. The cameras will
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow, so I'm told. But you know, when
Speaker 1: we have the setup, we don't have direct line of sight.
Speaker 2: Using right and I like to look at Mo because
Speaker 2: I like to see his reactions and believe me, he reacts,
Speaker 2: Oh I do. If there's something that he doesn't like,
Speaker 2: there's a reaction.
Speaker 1: I you know, I know that Google recently, well I
Speaker 1: don't know if they announced tell me this. I know
Speaker 1: that they're supposed supposed to have their annual event in
Speaker 1: August of this year.
Speaker 2: Okay, they have a couple of events.
Speaker 1: Okay, which they release their next exel watch and phone
Speaker 1: and fold and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, that'll be in August.
Speaker 1: But I'm not feeling any heat or momentum. We're already
Speaker 1: in June and people are not talking about it like
Speaker 1: they usually do.
Speaker 3: Are you feeling the same way about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For example, I saw the layout of the number
Speaker 2: of phones that Samsung has right now. It's ridiculous. It
Speaker 2: looks like about ten phones. Ten phones? What?
Speaker 3: Literally? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, I come eBay for dummies with my first book.
Speaker 2: I know about retail. That's too many skews for a
Speaker 2: phone company. SKU means stock keeping units, and that's the name.
Speaker 3: We're really dating ourselves.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, No they still use okay, well do
Speaker 1: they still call it the skews?
Speaker 3: Okay, skews?
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's just too many to concentrate on.
Speaker 2: I say, okay, do three four phones?
Speaker 3: Do it?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Googled has four phones.
Speaker 1: Technically, if you called the pixel, which will be the
Speaker 1: ten You know, they have the pixel and the pixel XL.
Speaker 1: I count that as two phones. Then they have the
Speaker 1: pixel fold and I think there's one other that they have.
Speaker 2: Well, and when you look at Apple, they have that
Speaker 2: new skinny phone. You know, I didn't hear any hue
Speaker 2: and cry, hey, we want a skinny phone, We want
Speaker 2: a skinny phone. No, because I can see that just
Speaker 2: sliding out through your hands. One cool thing I did
Speaker 2: see is the company that makes the keyboard that snaps
Speaker 2: onto an Apple I phone.
Speaker 3: I see that. That's very cool.
Speaker 2: Has now made that for the pixel Do you have
Speaker 2: a Pixel nine?
Speaker 3: I have a Pixel nine A.
Speaker 2: It would take it.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know, everyone has a virtual keyboard
Speaker 1: right now, and there are companies more than one, which
Speaker 1: are making actual tactile physical keyboards to attach to your phone.
Speaker 3: I think it's called clicks clicks, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: And what it does is it snaps onto your phone
Speaker 2: and you could actually use your thumbs. I can't use
Speaker 2: my thumbs on a screen. They slide on all around.
Speaker 1: I miss and I have more than just a few
Speaker 1: typos because I'm typing on a screen and it's not
Speaker 1: being unable to see it.
Speaker 2: It's just you can't feel where the right the letters are.
Speaker 2: Right back to the days of the old, you know,
Speaker 2: the BlackBerry, BlackBerry, absolutely the sidekick. These were phones that
Speaker 2: you could really feel the keys and it wasn't a
Speaker 2: key feeling. All we can say is it was like
Speaker 2: a bump and if you were in the middle of
Speaker 2: the bump, you knew you were there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't have to look at your hands, and
Speaker 1: you had a real sense of typing accurately.
Speaker 2: So they do make these, and hopefully the company will
Speaker 2: make it for other phones. I don't think they'll go
Speaker 2: backwards for the older phones, but I think that's a
Speaker 2: good thing because I wonder how much weight it sticks
Speaker 2: to it. Maybe I'll call them up and see if
Speaker 2: we can get one for you, mom.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to try it because I've wanted actual buttons
Speaker 1: for quite some time, but they had fallen out of
Speaker 1: favor with the demise of BlackBerry. And I do a
Speaker 1: lot of texting, so anything which enhances the keyboard experience
Speaker 1: I'm going to try.
Speaker 2: But I do have to tell you that I've started
Speaker 2: trying to dictating.
Speaker 3: My text speech to text. I'll do that as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, it does a pretty good job, and even when
Speaker 2: I look at the screen and I go, mmm, hasn't
Speaker 2: gotten it right, it'll all of a sudden correct itself
Speaker 2: to the right thing as it gets the rest of
Speaker 2: the sentence. But I'm not one of those people who
Speaker 2: like to sit and talk to my phone.
Speaker 1: I no, I don't do it either, with the exception
Speaker 1: of when I'm driving. Android Otto is beautiful and I
Speaker 1: can't recreate how it works.
Speaker 3: But it will ask me.
Speaker 1: I'll receive a text, it'll read it for me if
Speaker 1: I want it, It'll ask me do I want to reply?
Speaker 1: I say yes, and then it says, you know, what
Speaker 1: is it you want to say? And I'll say it,
Speaker 1: and then to say would you like to send? I
Speaker 1: say yes. And I can have text conversations in my
Speaker 1: car when I'm driving and never have to look at
Speaker 1: my phone.
Speaker 2: Well, I get distracted. I just you know, I have
Speaker 2: a thing. I don't do anything on my phone when
Speaker 2: I drive. Period. I don't want It's kind of like
Speaker 2: when I go on a plane and I fly a lot,
Speaker 2: I won't use the Wi Fi. I'm just there, the
Speaker 2: raw dog at it. I'll just put me on a plane,
Speaker 2: give me a meal, and give me a lay flat seat,
Speaker 2: and I'm in business.
Speaker 1: I don't see how you can do that, seriously, because
Speaker 1: you do enough international travel where there are some long
Speaker 1: hauls in between.
Speaker 2: Longest one I did was fourteen hours.
Speaker 1: I need at least four movies Wi Fi, And when
Speaker 1: I flew Korea Airlines to South Korea, there was no
Speaker 1: Wi Fi either coming or going.
Speaker 3: But I had already downloaded about six movies.
Speaker 2: You didn't sleep.
Speaker 1: I did do some sleeping, but also I'm very conscious
Speaker 1: of getting up and walking around so I don't develop
Speaker 1: blood clots and that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: So I'm not trying to sleep the whole time.
Speaker 2: So where I wear compression socks on long flights, have
Speaker 2: always have because I knew somebody that got that, and
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I had my brother in law's father who was a
Speaker 1: jazz musician. Unfortunately died at fifty seven because of an embolism.
Speaker 1: They thought that he got on a long haul.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw somebody collapse walking out of a plane.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: It's a real thing. It's a very real thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're not going to if you're going
Speaker 2: to be on a long haul flight, at the very least,
Speaker 2: wear compression socks. Nobody has to know that their compression
Speaker 2: socks except once I wore compression pantyhose though, and then
Speaker 2: that was not yea, I don't.
Speaker 1: Think that's going to be something I'm going to see.
Speaker 1: Not a good idea consider, but you know.
Speaker 2: Not on a long haul flight. But uh, yeah, I
Speaker 2: love sleeping. I love planes ever since I was a
Speaker 2: little girl. My first flight was I was four years old.
Speaker 1: I see I'm not all that comfortable sleeping on planes
Speaker 1: all the time because I'm not a nervous flyer. But
Speaker 1: I'm not a at ease flyer, so that's funny.
Speaker 2: And yet when I go on a plane, I think
Speaker 2: to myself, if I'm going to die now I'm doing
Speaker 2: something I love.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I get it. And that's part of the
Speaker 1: reason why I do fly. In other words, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be flying out to Rome as part of this
Speaker 1: cruise we were talking about last segment, So Joe, But
Speaker 1: what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying, I don't like to fly, but it's got Do
Speaker 3: I want to go to Rome or not?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You kind of have to have a plane.
Speaker 1: No, No, I just have to have a jack neat
Speaker 1: and you know, do the best I can with the
Speaker 1: movies I got, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And just be comfortable and enjoy it for what it is,
Speaker 2: because just flying it's a freaking miracle.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm probably so uncomfortable with it, because it's like,
Speaker 1: this is not supposed to stay in the air.
Speaker 2: Did you read the book by the captain that explained
Speaker 2: all of this. I read it once on a plane
Speaker 2: and it changed my whole outlook.
Speaker 1: I don't read about planes when I'm on the plane
Speaker 1: because I'm going to see something or read something which
Speaker 1: is going to make my mind more uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Okay. I went to Buenos Ayres on business and I
Speaker 2: had to land in Santiago, and from Santiago to Buenos Aires,
Speaker 2: and I went up the Andes Mountains and I saw.
Speaker 3: Oh god, the movie the movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was right there. I mean we were climbing
Speaker 2: in the plane and I'm looking out the window and
Speaker 2: oh my god, that was the most horrifying thing I
Speaker 2: ever saw. But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, there's certain places in the world I probably
Speaker 1: will never visit, if only because I've read enough about
Speaker 1: the approaches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, short runways, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: But I have a thing against volcanoes. Volcanoes are just
Speaker 2: you put a volcano somewhere. I'm not going You're not
Speaker 2: flying over the volcano.
Speaker 3: Now it's Later with mo Kelly. We're just riffing.
Speaker 1: It is Marshall Collier who joins us in studio on
Speaker 1: this Tech Thursday KFI AM six forty live everywhere in
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Speaker 4: You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3: Is Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 1: We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and on this
Speaker 1: Tech Thursday. You know that means that Marcia Calier joins
Speaker 1: me in studio. Marsha, you and I we were talking
Speaker 1: during the break with there's some similarities in how we
Speaker 1: approach this online marketplace, how we spend money.
Speaker 2: Well, you and I have so many similarities. You're born December.
Speaker 3: Right, November late, November late.
Speaker 2: I'm December fourth.
Speaker 3: Within a week of each other, remember twenty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we are the same in so many different ways.
Speaker 2: But we actually look like brother and sister. We do
Speaker 2: some of you who've never noticed, Yeah, but yeah, we
Speaker 2: do things financially very similarly online.
Speaker 1: How should well, I should say, what is your recommendation
Speaker 1: for approaching paying for items online?
Speaker 3: There are a number of options. Let's say you go
Speaker 3: to Amazon.
Speaker 1: You can put in your credit card, or you know,
Speaker 1: you can put in your gift card, or you can
Speaker 1: I think you can attach you to.
Speaker 3: A PayPal account.
Speaker 2: I mean, what is your recommend Well, I love PayPal.
Speaker 2: If PayPal is an option, I pay by PayPal. They've
Speaker 2: been in business. I was at their launch. I have
Speaker 2: the first T shirt from PayPal. I have the first
Speaker 2: cap still in the plastic. I've trusted them. I know
Speaker 2: how they run their business. I was in on it
Speaker 2: in the beginning. I knew how they planned on making
Speaker 2: money and how it was going to work, and it
Speaker 2: all made sense to me. And they had to be
Speaker 2: very careful because they were the first.
Speaker 1: They were the first, but they've also reaped the benefits
Speaker 1: where they have I think the most relationships with online
Speaker 1: retailers in places where people spend money.
Speaker 3: I use PayPal as well.
Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable using it, and whenever there was an issue,
Speaker 1: they immediately addressed.
Speaker 2: It right and Square for example, Yes, I have a
Speaker 2: Square account as way, right now, I try all these
Speaker 2: different things for my accounts and you know my podcast.
Speaker 2: And it turned out when I first started Square, I said, folks,
Speaker 2: what about the sales tax? We have to be able
Speaker 2: to add sales tax to this. Then we don't do that. See,
Speaker 2: and that's a business that's not thought through. So when
Speaker 2: you're dealing with a financial business, you want a business
Speaker 2: that's thought through. Zell on the other hand, Mmmm, the app,
Speaker 2: I don't see that as so thought through real well,
Speaker 2: because of the security risks.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a generational difference. But when I talk to
Speaker 1: people who are younger than me, I often hear zell.
Speaker 1: I more often hear venmo and cash app. Cash app
Speaker 1: seems like a bank robbery waiting to happen. More reputable
Speaker 1: businesses will use person to person for Venmo. Right, where
Speaker 1: do you come out on these cash exchange apps or
Speaker 1: what happens?
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the deal. If you're paying for a product
Speaker 2: or a service that you may need to write off
Speaker 2: your small business or you may, you better not be
Speaker 2: using it through any of these cash apps because you're
Speaker 2: not getting a receipt that says what it's for that
Speaker 2: you can use for your business. When I do business
Speaker 2: with someone person to person and they're selling me something,
Speaker 2: I asked them to send me a PayPal invoice, a
Speaker 2: legit invoice, and I pay it.
Speaker 1: You make a great point, because when I do my
Speaker 1: corporate taxes on personal taxes, the PayPal is because it's
Speaker 1: just itemized and I just go back there.
Speaker 2: It is right, right, And that's the difference. One is professional. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: technology is making people dumber. I'm sorry, I'll be sorry.
Speaker 2: Sure you take a look at the apps. Even quick books,
Speaker 2: which used to be a robust, fabulous bookkeeping app is
Speaker 2: now this simple little dorky thing online and a corporation
Speaker 2: can't use it. They have to use something else altogether,
Speaker 2: because an accountant in the US government needs more information
Speaker 2: than that app is gonna and they want us to
Speaker 2: use less and less and have less control and throw
Speaker 2: the control and it's all right, everything's fine, it's safe
Speaker 2: and every yeah, until you get audited. When you get
Speaker 2: audited again.
Speaker 1: And I've been audited, so I know what that's like.
Speaker 1: You bet very invasive, right, how did you feel? It
Speaker 1: was less about what I felt. It was the inability
Speaker 1: to actually talk to someone and being required to facts
Speaker 1: all this information that they were asking for because the
Speaker 1: irs will not work by emails, like I can email
Speaker 1: you a PDF. No, you have to fax it to us.
Speaker 1: It's like you gotta be kiddy. So it made it
Speaker 1: very difficult to want fine fact services. I signed up
Speaker 1: for a fact service to literally facts over this stuff.
Speaker 1: But it was, oh it was not only was it invasive,
Speaker 1: it was a pain in the behind. And I don't
Speaker 1: think people understand how many hoops you have.
Speaker 3: To jump through.
Speaker 2: Well, and one of the main things one of my
Speaker 2: best selling books was starting an eBay business and not
Speaker 2: taught people how to run a small business online in depth.
Speaker 2: And the book still stands, and even though it was
Speaker 2: written a decade ago, it still stands because business practices
Speaker 2: are business practices. And the thing is they're encouraging people
Speaker 2: to do business now without proper backup, without proper documentation,
Speaker 2: like even eBay. Now, when they send the money to
Speaker 2: the seller, they've already deducted their fees the postage. And
Speaker 2: if you want to post everything correctly, which frankly a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't do anymore, you have to go
Speaker 2: two steps back and figure out how much the fees
Speaker 2: were was and then deduct that from the cost of
Speaker 2: goods sold or whatever. We'll keep anything you put it under.
Speaker 2: They make it very hard and yet in the end
Speaker 2: we have to pay the price. It's the same thing
Speaker 2: with cars. You know they say the best car, this
Speaker 2: is it. I mean, you know, we can talk about
Speaker 2: cars all day, but once you've landed with one. I
Speaker 2: heard Mark Thompson talking about is Tesla, you can get stuck.
Speaker 2: You can't just walk in anymore and take somebody's word
Speaker 2: for their software. That's why I do what I do.
Speaker 2: I test things I work on them. I don't take
Speaker 2: freebies from companies because then they want you to review them.
Speaker 1: Well, it almoso like you feel Obligated's like, we gave
Speaker 1: you this product to review.
Speaker 3: You can't just slam them.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's almost inappropriate.
Speaker 2: Well, when I accept something to review, I always if
Speaker 2: I accept it, I say if it sucks, I'm going
Speaker 2: to say it sucks.
Speaker 1: Sweet it should be. So there you go, Marshall Collier.
Speaker 1: It is always great to see you. It's even better
Speaker 1: to learn from you. How can people reach you?
Speaker 2: I'm sadly still on X. I can't help. The algorithm
Speaker 2: is killing me on X, just just killing me, and
Speaker 2: it's so futile. But I check there every day because
Speaker 2: I have some friends that are on there, and I
Speaker 2: look at their stuff every day, and I go through
Speaker 2: when somebody mentions me, so at me marsha at m
Speaker 2: A R S H A C O L L I
Speaker 2: E R or go to Marshall Collier dot com and
Speaker 2: hit contact Marshall.
Speaker 3: We'll see you next week. We'll have the cameras next week,
Speaker 3: I promise.
Speaker 2: Okay, And I wore makeup and everything.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, I wore Pattihose I just like
Speaker 1: there's no reason for it. It's Later with Moe Kelly.
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