WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:12.240 On February tenth, nineteen ninety two, men with guns stormed 2 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:16.879 a bowling alley in Los Crusis, New Mexico. They gathered 3 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:20.120 the employees and two young girls inside, forced them into 4 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:24.280 the main office, stole some cash, and opened fired on 5 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:29.079 all seven victims before setting the room ablades and escaping 6 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:33.960 out the back door. This is the brutal and unsolved 7 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:38.280 story of the Los Crusus Bowling Alley massacre. 8 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:43.520 My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked 9 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:46.240 and Grim, a true crime podcast. 10 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:54.320 The following podcast material intended for a mature audience. 11 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:57.320 Listener discretion advised. 12 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:18.239 It's up Happy Friday, Happy Friday. 13 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:22.879 This story took me a long time to type out 14 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:25.640 because my wrist is fucked Yeah. 15 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:28.920 Yeah, fucked up your wrists. Perfect timing, I. 16 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:31.040 Know, right, I had. I've got a little bit of 17 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:34.000 like ten nights going on the last few months, and 18 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.040 I went and played some ball hockey the other day, 19 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:42.079 and yeah, it hurts a lot more now since then. 20 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.519 Yeah, so it doesn't last too long. 21 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:47.719 I don't think so. I mean, I've got a brace 22 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:50.480 on my hand right now to keep my wrist nice 23 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:54.040 and straight. And took an heal and it's doing better. 24 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:58.760 You're old. I know you're getting old. I know, I 25 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:01.599 know you will play ball hockey once a week and 26 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:02.280 you get injured. 27 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:06.000 Yeah, that's pretty much it right there. But the freeze 28 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.039 is coming, so it's gonna be like ice hockey pretty 29 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:10.960 quick here. So yeah, I can be outside playing some 30 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:14.360 ice hockey and uh yeah, good times. Got a little winter. 31 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:18.080 Really taking this enjoying hockey to the next level. You're 32 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:19.840 not just watching it, you're playing it. 33 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:22.400 Yeah, thirty six years old and I'm starting to play 34 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:25.560 hockey for the first time. So yeah, should have started 35 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:27.280 when I was younger. I could have gotten too the NHL. 36 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:29.879 Who knows, I know we would have been rich too 37 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:30.840 late for that. Now. 38 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:36.080 Ah, that's okay. Our life is still pretty good. 39 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:36.960 Is it okay though? 40 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:38.400 Yeah? 41 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:41.240 H is it okay though? Yeah, we could have been rich. 42 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:45.199 Oh my goodness. Do you know the percentage it's probably 43 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:49.280 very low of what like kiddos actually make it into 44 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:49.919 the NHL. 45 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:52.960 Oh no, it's it's minimal. Any any sort of like 46 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.919 kid going into sports. It's like a fraction of a 47 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:59.000 fraction of a fraction will make it into the pro leagues. Yeah, 48 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:03.240 are you talking like NBA, NFL, NHL, like all of them. 49 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.080 It's good to be a professional athlete. I think is 50 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:07.960 pretty hard. 51 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:11.360 Oh definitely. The Well I was going to say it's 52 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:16.560 super competitive, but I mean it is sports, so but yeah, no, 53 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:19.280 it's I think for a lot of people though, it 54 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:22.520 isn't getting into there. It's just enjoying the things in 55 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:25.400 the daily lives, right, which is exactly why I'm starting 56 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:28.199 to play hockey now at the age that I am, 57 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:30.639 is because it's not about like, oh, I'm gonna go 58 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:31.759 and be super competitive. 59 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:33.319 It's just like we're fun. 60 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.599 I just want to play hockey. That's all it is, 61 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.120 you know. Yeah, So yeah, do what you love is 62 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.680 the moral of this story. Yeah, just don't hurt yourself. 63 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.199 Well, I know. I mean when we're young, we're just 64 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.120 like invincible or you feel so much quicker, and then 65 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:49.280 when you're old, you're just well, we're not that we're old. 66 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:53.159 We're not old. We're middle aged, right, we're middle aged. Yes, 67 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:57.080 we're not even middle aged yet technically you don't think 68 00:03:57.080 --> 00:03:57.400 we are. 69 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.400 No, I don't think so, because I think middle age 70 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.879 quote unquote it's like around forty, isn't it. We're not 71 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:03.639 technically forty, yet we're thirty. 72 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:08.719 Six, so humhm fun okay, because. 73 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:10.280 Middle age is like the middle of your life, the 74 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.800 middle of your life span, right, middle aged, And technically 75 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.879 I think our lifespan is around forty or sorry, around eight. 76 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:20.079 Oh man, wow, so middle age should be around forty. 77 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:22.000 So I guess I mean, if you're going either end 78 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:23.319 of forty, we're we're middle aged. 79 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:25.000 Yeah, yeah, we're getting there. 80 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:30.439 Yeah, gotta love life. Anyways, we digressed. I don't know 81 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.240 why we talked about this this morning, but we we did. 82 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:35.600 Hopefully you guys are having a good morning, better than 83 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:40.199 my wrist, and hopefully you guys are not going to 84 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.759 pay attention to the uh Jake Paul and Mike Tyson fight. 85 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.160 I'm going to. It's just I don't don't. I don't 86 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.120 want to feed that kid any more attention than he 87 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:52.240 already has. But I'm gonna watch, but you're going I'm 88 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:54.160 going to. I just really hope he gets his face 89 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:55.600 punched and he is old. 90 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.920 Ben, this is like taking okay, this is taking a 91 00:04:58.920 --> 00:04:59.920 turn here, let's. 92 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:02.959 Go Okay, let's get on the case. We're just rambling 93 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:06.240 this morning, so we are talking about it. I am 94 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:09.279 just rambling this morning. I haven't had coffee yet. Maybe 95 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:11.319 that's the thing. Maybe I need a coffee to settle 96 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:11.639 me down. 97 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:14.079 So maybe the tea didn't cut it, Egy, No it didn't. 98 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:17.759 But yeah, this is the Lost Crusis Bowling Alley massacre. 99 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:22.079 So on the Saturday of February tenth, nineteen ninety, the 100 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:25.040 day began like any other weekend for the family run 101 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:30.680 Los Crusis Bowl. It's east of Amatur Avenue in Los Crusis, 102 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.399 New Mexico, and the bowling alley planned to open at 103 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:36.680 nine am this day. They were going to be welcoming 104 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:39.560 a youth bowling league which has had around forty young 105 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.920 bowlers ages four to twelve, and they're going to be 106 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:46.160 participating in this you know, loose youth bowling league day 107 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.079 or whatever it was, right, So it was quite a 108 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:49.920 big event day with a lot of little kids. 109 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:50.519 Okay. 110 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:53.439 Employees arrived early to make sure everything was all set up. 111 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.360 As events like this there's there's always a lot to prepare. 112 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.720 Stephanie Senek was the thirty four year old men and 113 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:03.560 came in at around eight am that morning. She brought 114 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:06.040 along with her her twelve year old daughter Melissa Ripass 115 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:11.240 and Melissa's friend Amy Hauser, who was thirteen. The girls 116 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:13.759 were there to help with the day care service for 117 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:15.279 the day. You know, being as young as they were 118 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.360 didn't stop them from being a part of learning the 119 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.079 family business that it was and being involved and getting 120 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:23.920 those work time the work time in right, that's awesome. 121 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:28.399 The day was beginning with Stephanie heading to the office. 122 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.639 She's going to sort out receipts in the previous night, 123 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:32.759 while Melissa and Amy you know, kind of explored and 124 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.079 played together throughout the bowling alley. So it's not like 125 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:36.800 the kids are being put to work right away, but 126 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.160 it's like, hey, you gotta do some help out for now. 127 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:41.319 Go explore it, Go play. I got a little bit 128 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:42.079 of paperwork to do. 129 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:44.639 That's kind of fun. Hey, as a kid, just to 130 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.360 get to explore, like an empty bowling out right, that 131 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:48.480 sounds super fun. 132 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:51.759 That would be. So as the kids were doing this 133 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:53.959 and Stephanie's in the back starting to tackle some of 134 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:56.759 the paperwork, meanwhile, there was a woman, a woman by 135 00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.199 the name of Ida Holgan. She's a thirty three year 136 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.240 old individual who is a cook for the establishment. So 137 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:06.160 she's in the kitchen already busy with the morning preparations 138 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:09.879 and prep work is often the most labor intensive part 139 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:11.720 of cooking for events. You know, you've got a lot 140 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:13.360 to prepare for. You got a lot of meals that 141 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:16.560 like need to be happening as these are going. Even 142 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:18.439 if you're gonna go like fast food stuff, you got 143 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.439 prep work to do. If someone's going to order, say, 144 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:23.920 for example, you go through a drive in just on 145 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:26.160 any sort of fast food restaurant you can think of. 146 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:30.160 If someone say says, I want eight cheeseburgers, well you 147 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.439 got to fly those eight cheeseburgers out, So you need 148 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.120 to make sure you have the buns, the condiments, the patties, 149 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:37.639 all the stuff that goes on it ready to go. 150 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:39.480 Yeah, there's a lot to it. 151 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:41.759 Yeah, So that's what she's doing, is making sure everything's 152 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.480 ready to go for this like forty plus. 153 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.040 Right, So then it makes their life. 154 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:48.240 Easier later, Yeah, with all these people coming in. So 155 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:50.839 that's what she's doing in the kitchen, hard at work, 156 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:53.879 and so far it's a regular morning, but that is 157 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:57.000 until the two young girls, Melissa and Amy, walk towards 158 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:00.600 the vending machine in the building just before eight twenty am. 159 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:03.519 It was then that they noticed two men approaching them 160 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:06.560 coming inside the building. The girls politely asked if the 161 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:08.480 men needed any help or what they were looking for. 162 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.600 They're like, you know, what's up. But this was when 163 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:14.160 things took a turn for the worse. The two men, 164 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:18.120 one being significantly older than the other, each drew a 165 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:22.480 twenty two caliber handgun and pointed it directly at the girls. Man, 166 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:25.160 leave these little girls alone, I know, right, And it's 167 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:27.560 the first ones that they see and the first ones 168 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:28.199 they go for. 169 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:30.519 And here they're just like, how can we help you? 170 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.000 Like the bowling alley's close about what can we do 171 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:33.240 for you? 172 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:33.639 Right? 173 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:35.320 And I like how the girls are like, you know, 174 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.200 they're starting to work in this establishment, ha bit, and 175 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:41.039 so they're almost like the customer service kicks in. But 176 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:44.000 the girls were unfortunately in a bad spot and they 177 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.960 were immediately terrified and frozen in fear. But they were 178 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.000 quickly forced to move and were made to go into 179 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:53.720 the office where Stephanie was already reviewing the paper. Right, 180 00:08:53.960 --> 00:08:56.720 so they're all forced into this back room. The men 181 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.720 continued to brandish their guns at their new captors, you know, 182 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:02.559 Sephanie and the two girls, and they got them all 183 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:06.960 to kneel and lay down on the floor. They were 184 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:08.759 left with no other choice but us to do what 185 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:10.519 they were told, So they all got down to their 186 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:13.679 knees and then laid face down, and one of the 187 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:15.960 gunmen would leave the room briefly in search of the 188 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:18.679 building in case there's anyone else left around. And this 189 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.600 is when Ida was spotted cooking in the kitchen. Now, 190 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:25.320 according to reports from the Las Crucis Sun News, the 191 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:28.480 man aimed his gun directly at her and shouted, quote, 192 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:35.759 this is a hold up, could be important, jeez. So 193 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:37.840 once he had Ida under control, he led her to 194 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:40.399 the office where Stephanie, Melissa and Amy were already on 195 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:43.159 the floor and the men meant business. And to prove this, 196 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.759 the one leading Ida struck her repeatedly on the back 197 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:48.679 of the head with the gun in his hand, forcing 198 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:51.399 her into the office and onto the floor only shit. 199 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:55.240 Ida was ordered to sit with her head down. So 200 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.840 she's on her knees with her head down, and one 201 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.799 of the men then direct did Stephanie to open the safe. Stephanie, 202 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.879 doing as she was told, moves slowly. She's trying to 203 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:08.960 ensure that she didn't startle anyone, you know, make any 204 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.559 moves that could cause a trigger to be pulled or 205 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:13.960 someone to get hurt. Right, So she's moving cautiously and 206 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:18.519 slowly and did as she was told and opened the safe. 207 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:22.159 Once the men had access, they grabbed around five thousand 208 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.200 dollars of cash from inside the safe. But this is 209 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.600 where something interesting happens. They didn't grab all of the money. 210 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.440 They did leave some behind still sitting in the safe. Now. 211 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:39.039 Ida later recounted that the police or sorry to the police, 212 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:42.080 that at this point the men seemed agitated. They began 213 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:45.320 rummaging frantically through the office cabinets and drawers, as if 214 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.720 they were almost searching for something, something more than just cash, 215 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.120 almost like there was something specific that they were in 216 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:53.519 search of and looking for. 217 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:57.159 Hmmm, okay, and it's very odd that they didn't just 218 00:10:57.159 --> 00:10:58.080 take all the money. 219 00:10:58.320 --> 00:10:58.679 It is. 220 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:00.440 That doesn't make any sense. 221 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:06.360 Yeah, okay, So there's a few question marks on a 222 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:09.159 lot of this, Like, as I mentioned, when the one 223 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:11.960 gunman already went to Ida in the kitchen and had 224 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:14.200 had her at gunpoint, he said, this is a hold up. 225 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:16.600 What does this as a hold up mean? 226 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:19.120 Yeah, I don't even know. 227 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:21.480 That's usually mean it's a robbery. This is a robbery. 228 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:22.960 This is a hold up. This is a stick up. 229 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:25.200 It's all like in terms of like I'm pointing a 230 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:26.840 gun at you, You're gonna give me what I want? 231 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:28.879 Okay yeeah. 232 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:31.799 So if this is a hold up. 233 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.240 They would have nothing to be looking for other than valuables. 234 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:38.039 Yeah, they're looking for to looking to steal, but they 235 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:42.600 didn't even steal all the money, and then it's reported 236 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:46.399 that they seemed like they were looking for something else. So, 237 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:50.480 now as this is going on, the Bowling Alley mechanic 238 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:54.080 Stephen Tarn, who is twenty six, was just arriving at 239 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:58.720 the building Damn and with Stephen were his two young daughters. 240 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:03.600 Oh Manka, six year old Paula and two year old Valerie. 241 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.559 As he entered the building, the two gunmen spotted Stephen 242 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:10.759 and his kids, and the men didn't hesitate and forced 243 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.240 them into the now crowded office as well and ordered 244 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:18.159 everyone to kneel with their heads down. It's unsure why, 245 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.120 but what happened next was unexpected. Once everyone was in 246 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.720 the office kneeling on the floor with their heads down 247 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:28.559 as directed, the two men began firing at their victims. 248 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:32.600 Though some sources report all victims were shot in the 249 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:37.000 head execution style. A Las Cruces Police Department captain clarified 250 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.600 that while five were indeed shot in the head, others 251 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:44.840 suffered wounds to their shoulders, hands in other areas. Now, 252 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.279 this next part is a bit of a spoiler, but 253 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:50.320 for story's sake, it is the best time to mention it. 254 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.159 So we're going to go with the spoiler right now. 255 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.039 You'll figure it out here shortly. Anyways, so Ida, who 256 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:59.480 survived the shooting, later told investigators and the media that 257 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:04.480 the gunman appeared visibly anxious as they were firing their guns. 258 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:08.320 Often as they were shooting at her, they missed, and 259 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:13.240 they needed to shoot several times before hitting her accurately. 260 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:18.000 Okay, almost like they weren't wanting to or they were 261 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:19.840 kind of doing this against their. 262 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.039 Will of sorts, or yeah, or maybe it was the 263 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.399 first time doing it, or they were nervous, or who 264 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:27.840 knows what. But you have someone point blank range and 265 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:32.240 you're missing. Yeah, that's significant. 266 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.000 Because it wouldn't necessarily take a lot of skill to 267 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:38.480 hit that aim. No, right, No, I have no experience. 268 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:42.200 Have I fired a gun oh maybe, I guess actually, 269 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:45.679 like like target shooting for hunting or whatever. Right, yeah, 270 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:47.480 but I'm a hunter. But I think you've shot a 271 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:51.519 twenty once in my whole life. Yeah, it's not rifles 272 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:55.120 or air guns you've shot. But but yeah, this is 273 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:59.320 close range handgun. It should be relatively easy to hit 274 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:01.159 a body at least. Yeah. 275 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.360 Yeah, but they were missing and Ida was able to 276 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:06.799 look directly at their shooters as they were shooting at 277 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:10.240 her and not hitting her. But they kept shooting and 278 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:14.120 eventually did. Now, after the men had shot all the 279 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:17.559 victims and believed they were all dead, the gunman then 280 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:20.240 took some papers and some that were sitting on the 281 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:23.559 desk and lit them on fire before slipping out the 282 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:27.559 back door and making their escape. Now I mentioned that 283 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:30.559 Ida survived the shooting. We already know that that was 284 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:34.159 the spoiler alert part, and I also mentioned that the 285 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:38.000 men believed they had killed everyone. Well, at eight thirty 286 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.519 three am, the nine to one one dispatch would receive 287 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:43.879 a call from that office, and it was from someone 288 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:45.840 else who was still alive. 289 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:49.440 Okay, I was like, please have some other people surviving this. 290 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:53.639 The call came in from twelve year old Melissa against 291 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:56.600 all odds, and despite being shot, she managed to reach 292 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:00.320 for the office phone and dialed nine to one. One. 293 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:02.480 My gosh, bless her little heart. 294 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:04.159 I have that night. 295 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:07.440 Oh God, of course you do. Of course you do. 296 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:12.519 Here we go, please. 297 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:16.120 Tell oh well, show down, show down, We are shot. 298 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:19.799 Hold up? Okay, where are you at? 299 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:20.039 One? 300 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:25.200 Stam the door US's ball? Yes, okay, and there were 301 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:26.120 there were shots fired. 302 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:29.240 Yes, o huh Oliver. 303 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:31.679 I think I'm the other one conscience. All of you 304 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:33.639 were hurt. Okay, we'll get a name of the rolling 305 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:39.200 please okay, what's your NAMESA repas? Please hurry, say Melissa, 306 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.679 we've got him dispatched. Did you see who did it? 307 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:42.120 No? 308 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:43.960 They told before to get down. 309 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.799 They shot me five times. 310 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:49.559 Okay, we'll get him rolling, Melissa, just hang on. Take 311 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:56.399 a deeper patrol unit in around. How many people are hurt? One, twoday, four, five, seven, seven? 312 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:59.559 People are hurts? I think I hurt? 313 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:05.759 Okay, okay, Melissa, it hurts, it hurts. Okay, Melissa. 314 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.399 I've got any ambulance and I've got the police officers 315 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:08.879 in round. 316 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:11.120 They'll be with you just shortly. 317 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:12.159 Okay. 318 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:14.320 You didn't see what any. 319 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:17.559 Of the men they wear over money. You didn't see 320 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:21.159 what any kind of the men were wearing or anything. Nothing. 321 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:22.360 They just walked in. 322 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:24.639 Do you know if they were black men. 323 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:32.279 White men, black mesa two black men? Yeah, okay, No, 324 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:38.080 they've left two black mele. 325 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:41.159 Okay, Okay, it's okay, Melissa. 326 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:42.440 They's a fire too. 327 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:47.039 There's a fire. They are the men still there? I 328 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:47.559 don't know. 329 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:49.000 You don't know. 330 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:50.919 I don't know if they put it in the office. 331 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.600 They put you in the office. Yes, I need a 332 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:54.919 fire too. 333 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:57.919 Too, Okay, Melissa. 334 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:00.360 She said they locked them in the office. He doesn't 335 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.000 know if they're still there or not. The door's opening. 336 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:07.240 The fire yet. 337 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:10.599 You smell smoke, militia, Yes, I could see it. Okay. 338 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:12.960 Can I get the fire apartment? 339 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:15.160 Yes, because she smells smoking. 340 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:16.559 Let the building on fire? 341 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:19.160 No, it is on fire, is on fire? 342 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:21.160 Okay, Melissa. 343 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:25.079 Can I go and buy utility one? 344 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:30.880 Okay, Melissa. We've got him coming home. We've got him coming. 345 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:36.480 If somebody Okay, Melissa, there's a police officer there now, Okay, 346 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:39.559 there is, Yes, there is. He's gonna try and find 347 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:41.279 you office. 348 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:43.680 I have thirty three traffic. 349 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:55.480 God okay for the old Melissa. We've got the ambulance coming. 350 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:56.640 They're just down the street. 351 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:01.240 Huh. She still advises all seven or they're injured, they're. 352 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:01.839 In the office. 353 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:05.160 Where's the office at? 354 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.839 And then you take it right and we're right in 355 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:07.240 the ld. 356 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:10.559 Okay, since you go in the. 357 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:12.559 First, let's take a right and you're right there. 358 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:13.200 At the office. 359 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:16.039 Okay. I'm giving the directions on how to get to 360 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:17.480 you to the police. 361 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:21.519 Officers that are there. My God, you're helping you, Melissa. 362 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:22.400 We've got them rolling. 363 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:26.160 Okay. You gotta be brave, gotta be strong now. 364 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.400 Okay, God, it's gonna burn our flight. 365 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.920 Now, Okay, can you see flames? Yeah? 366 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:38.400 Okay, okay, Oh, I got bullet in my fe. 367 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:44.160 Okay, the bullet in my head. You both the bullets 368 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:54.640 in your head? To go ahead. I hear the officers 369 00:18:54.680 --> 00:19:02.279 telling you to get out. Was at the police officer. 370 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:09.680 Okay now. 371 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:14.240 During the call, Melissa described the attackers as two black men. However, 372 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:18.480 detectors soon Detectives soon clarified that the men were most 373 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:23.240 likely Hispanic, possibly Cuban or Cuban American, rather than African American. 374 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:26.240 So I did want to clarify that before we move 375 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:30.240 any further. But that was a tough call to get through. 376 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:33.240 Holy shit, that was one of the worst things I've 377 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:33.799 ever heard. 378 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.079 So, yeah, she's how old is she twelve or third? 379 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:39.720 I think I'm going to go back on my notes 380 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:44.839 here and check her age. Boy, Yeah, she's twelve years old. 381 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:48.359 She had been shot five times, and she's laying in 382 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.799 the office with the other six individuals, all unconscious, and 383 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:57.000 she managed to communicate to officers not only what happened, 384 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:00.960 no kidding, also gave them direction on how to get 385 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:04.039 inside to find them in the office, and she stayed 386 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:06.880 on the line to the very last moment where officers 387 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:09.200 were directing you to get out of the building, despite 388 00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:12.480 that room still being a blaze. 389 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:16.000 My heart just like listening to that was just oh, 390 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:16.880 it just shattered. 391 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:19.880 Melissa is one hundred and ten percent the badass of 392 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:20.599 the pay today. 393 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:24.079 And I guess she wasn't aware then that Ida was 394 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:25.039 still alive. 395 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:27.359 Hey, she said unconscious. 396 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:29.720 Everyone else is on commage, okay, So she wasn't aware 397 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:32.200 that they were all like dead or what or exactly 398 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:33.920 what was like just hurt kind of thing. 399 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:36.240 Yeah, everyone else, as far as she knows, she used 400 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:39.559 the word unconscious too. Twelve year old in that moment, 401 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:43.759