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Speaker 1: Live is our Take ten with Tim. It is Friday
Speaker 1: these July the tenth, except it is not a Take
Speaker 1: ten with Tim. It is a Take ten with Rich
Speaker 1: today because Tim and I are going to be talking
Speaker 1: about my Top five hundred that just dropped yesterday, the
Speaker 1: Top five hundred Prospects and Baseball actually four ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Tim and I had one duplicated, so I had to
Speaker 1: do a quick little flipper roo. But we're back up
Speaker 1: to five hundred, so it is done, my friend, So
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the discussion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as am I I was just simply flat out
Speaker 2: were whelmed. Okay when I saw that list, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not take ten, it's take five hundred with Rich.
Speaker 2: We're not going through all of them, but that sort
Speaker 2: of boy was it absolutely amazes me when I see
Speaker 2: the amount of work that has to go into this project. Rich,
Speaker 2: it's like I said, overwhelming, It really is.
Speaker 1: It felt overwhelming to do it this time, because I
Speaker 1: think I shared last time we spoke, I had typically
Speaker 1: the first cut of my five hundred, usually about first
Speaker 1: first of June, and I was about to do it
Speaker 1: I had maybe two hundred two hundred and ten kind
Speaker 1: of profiles written up, and as I did last year,
Speaker 1: the first hundred to one hundred and fifty were pretty good.
Speaker 1: I felt good about that, and then it just became floaters, guys.
Speaker 1: I had a chance to take a look at and
Speaker 1: I the bottom two fifty was just suspect, and I
Speaker 1: just wasn't happy with that. As we you and I talked,
Speaker 1: I knew what was required, I was unwilling to do it,
Speaker 1: and then I just finally said, I have to do
Speaker 1: this because that's my job. So so I got my
Speaker 1: big boy pants up, I rolled up my sleeves, and
Speaker 1: there you go. I dug into it and I did
Speaker 1: probably in a process that takes me four months at
Speaker 1: the fall, I did it in two weeks. Again, it
Speaker 1: was it was probably sixty to seventy percent of the work,
Speaker 1: but that was a lot for two weeks. And as
Speaker 1: I was telling ten last night, I could not have
Speaker 1: done it without kind of systems in place, the AI
Speaker 1: assistant helping me to edit things and you know, put
Speaker 1: it into grammatically oriented forms, you know, all the write
Speaker 1: ups and things like that, and it's you know, I
Speaker 1: learned in my long career as a technologist. Once you
Speaker 1: have a technology in place, then you can start to
Speaker 1: really pump out lots of volume of stuff. And it
Speaker 1: proved it. I was able to crank out a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff in two weeks.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you've got five hundred players that you've profiled,
Speaker 2: and each and every single one of them, if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistake, and it has an ARETI yeah, it's only one.
Speaker 2: It's a he know, it's only a short area for
Speaker 2: the most part, it's you know, but it's one sentence
Speaker 2: describes what's going on.
Speaker 1: Oh if my friend, my friend, yes, my friend, Yes.
Speaker 1: Three and fifty to three hundred and seventy five of
Speaker 1: those have full two hundred to three hundred world write
Speaker 1: ups behind them. So behind them. Yeah, so that's the
Speaker 1: other one hundred and you know whatever, five hundred minus
Speaker 1: three fifty, one fifty or just short arrais a lot
Speaker 1: of those are guys that were hurt. I mean, what
Speaker 1: what am I going to write about Sebastian Walcott. He's
Speaker 1: been hurt the entire season, So I just write he's hurt.
Speaker 2: Go back hurt. Yeah, look at last year.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I I lost year I touched.
Speaker 1: Well, apparently it's coming back in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: That's what's interesting. If you write, bring my little, my
Speaker 1: little narrative in there, yes so, but so that's that's
Speaker 1: how it works. So if you figure there was only
Speaker 1: about one hundred narratives I did not write, and all
Speaker 1: of our Patreon members have seen those write ups, you know,
Speaker 1: at one point or another, updated all of them, and
Speaker 1: they'll be coming out in the next few weeks as
Speaker 1: I write about more players. But it was it was
Speaker 1: once you get it, get going, I mean, you just
Speaker 1: it's more of a you just have to throw yourself
Speaker 1: into it and just get it done. I mean that's
Speaker 1: just the bottom line. Get it done.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I got to tell you the first thing
Speaker 2: that leapt out at me. Okay, because again I've I've
Speaker 2: got the full Gride sitting in front of me, and
Speaker 2: it's very pretty and hey, nothing like a good highlighter
Speaker 2: to make a guy's date. Okay, but the first but
Speaker 2: the first thing I look for, Okay, yeah, you get
Speaker 2: your ranks one, two, three, five, six, seven, eight, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: on it goes. But the thing that I want to
Speaker 2: look at first, and I would imagine a lot of
Speaker 2: our listeners are cut from that same sort of claw
Speaker 2: is the up down in the February rank. And the
Speaker 2: first thing that leapt out at me in a massively
Speaker 2: huge way was that, Uh, comparing February today, I think
Speaker 2: there might be ten, eight to ten players that were
Speaker 2: top twenty five in February. They've all disappeared.
Speaker 1: See there you go. You know it's fifty three guys.
Speaker 1: There's fifty three guys that have graduated off of this list.
Speaker 1: Fifty three, so ten percent graduated off off the list.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then if you do it in order in three months,
Speaker 1: In three months, one two, three, four, five five, top
Speaker 1: ten guys, what do you want? Top hundred guys are
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen, one two, three, four, five, twenty five top
Speaker 1: hundred guys. So a quarter of the top one hundred
Speaker 1: guys have have graduated off of this list, which is
Speaker 1: kind of one of the thing if I can expand
Speaker 1: upon that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I wanted to lead into this and
Speaker 2: just turn it over to you and let you fire away.
Speaker 2: I know. The one thing that's said to me right
Speaker 2: away is, yeah, the game's getting younger, right.
Speaker 1: It's getting younger, and it made this process pretty challenging
Speaker 1: because quite frankly, there are guys in this top one hundred,
Speaker 1: if you will not to mention Top five hundred, that
Speaker 1: you know, you look at and you have to wrap
Speaker 1: your brain around going, that's not really a top one
Speaker 1: hundred guy. That's like a top one fifty kind of guy.
Speaker 1: But yet it's so shallow that the guys have kind
Speaker 1: of moved up, and I think we need to have
Speaker 1: that in context. Now. In four days, that's all going
Speaker 1: to change because we're finally going to have new blood
Speaker 1: coming in through the draft that happens over the weekend,
Speaker 1: and then quite frankly, we are desperate for some new
Speaker 1: blood to me because it has gotten thin and it
Speaker 1: has gotten terribly young. There are some seventeen year olds
Speaker 1: in the top one hundred, and I just, you know,
Speaker 1: you just don't do that because there's so much volatility
Speaker 1: in those guys. But it's just the way it's just
Speaker 1: the way it's happening. The yeah, it's getting it's getting younger.
Speaker 1: Those guys are getting promoted and graduated, and you know,
Speaker 1: now you've got seventeen eighteen year old guys littered through
Speaker 1: your top one hundred.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, Seth seth ornand is at number eight.
Speaker 2: A prime example, he moved up sixty s bucks. Theo
Speaker 2: Gillen moved up thirty one slots in three months, Ryan
Speaker 2: Sloan forty one, Eli Will it's fifty one. You know
Speaker 2: your top one hundred. You know Anthony I Aansen with Boston,
Speaker 2: He's moved up seventy seventy five slots, sixty nine slots
Speaker 2: for Sirota. Like, we're seeing people moving up this list
Speaker 2: at an incredible pace, aren't we. What would it be
Speaker 2: common to see a guy like Kendrick Churio two years
Speaker 2: ago to be ranked top thirty five and move up
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty three slots. It just it seems
Speaker 2: wild to me when I start looking at the number
Speaker 2: of young players that are just exploding onto the scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because a lot of guys that you mentioned,
Speaker 1: if I'm very curious, right, Seth Hernandez, As you recall
Speaker 1: back in the spring, he was my fourth ranked guy
Speaker 1: for the first year player draft, and I panicked, Timmy,
Speaker 1: I just said, I can't have a high school picture
Speaker 1: going that early. I mean I had to go before Ami.
Speaker 1: I mean I can't do that, so I dropped him
Speaker 1: at the last minute. Turned out to be a mistake.
Speaker 1: So this is that's really correction. Maybe he should have
Speaker 1: been twenty he moved up to seven. That was a
Speaker 1: I was not balled into Eli Willitts. I was thinking
Speaker 1: he'd be more like a spaf of guy's a lot
Speaker 1: stronger than his father. So that's a bit of a
Speaker 1: correction of a guy that probably should have been higher.
Speaker 1: Ryan Sloan is a monster. I mean, I've got him
Speaker 1: higher than Kate Anderson just by one slot. But that
Speaker 1: guy's has got top of the rotation stuff. He hasn't
Speaker 1: had as good a control, so the forty one is
Speaker 1: probably legitimate and he's really improved that much. Well, I
Speaker 1: forgot the other guy that you mentioned as well, Oh oh,
Speaker 1: the right handed from Boston up seventy five. I had
Speaker 1: him as a top one hundred guy, but he just
Speaker 1: exploded onto the scene. So it's kind of a combination
Speaker 1: of guys that I maybe had ranked wrong coming into
Speaker 1: the season, just should have been more bullish and not.
Speaker 1: And then some guys that have just blown up. I
Speaker 1: think guys that have just moved up because others have
Speaker 1: moved out well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a few. There's a few that have
Speaker 2: headed in the opposite direction as well.
Speaker 1: Oh, a lot of those guys. I'm also going to
Speaker 1: point you to number twenty eight, Mike Sarota. Mike's has
Speaker 1: got on base seventy two games in a row. One
Speaker 1: more game and he will tie the minor league record
Speaker 1: Minor league record for getting on base in a row.
Speaker 1: So that's the kind of season he is having. Yet again,
Speaker 1: another Dodgers outfielder. And look at this, there are three
Speaker 1: Dodgers outfielder if I'm not mistaken in the top twenty five. Well,
Speaker 1: I think Serota might be twenty eight. That's crazy, by
Speaker 1: the right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is totally Yeah, there might even before
Speaker 2: you got Hope. Is there another Dodger ahead of Hope,
Speaker 2: I again, yeah.
Speaker 1: Jose Depoula. So it's Hosey, Apollo, Zire Hope, and Sioder
Speaker 1: to the three top outfielders, and Dabbling is not that
Speaker 1: far behind.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and that's insane in any other organization. Some
Speaker 2: of those guys that already be up ye to.
Speaker 1: Paul Is at three, Zire Hope's at twenty, at Duardo
Speaker 1: Quintero's at twenty four, not had as good of a season.
Speaker 1: Sarrodo's at twenty eight, Charles Davelin's at thirty seven, James
Speaker 1: Tibbs at forty two. They're all outfielders, all top fifty
Speaker 1: guys from one organization.
Speaker 2: That's just the guy's a strong oatfield already.
Speaker 1: That's right. So my question to you is, because I
Speaker 1: actually wrote about one of them that I think it
Speaker 1: was Ay your Hope, Like, he seems like the most
Speaker 1: logical guy to move. He's the most explosive, but he's
Speaker 1: also the most volatile. I mean, they got to move
Speaker 1: some of these guys, at least one of these guys,
Speaker 1: to bring in some help here at the deadline, to
Speaker 1: bring in a trek school ble. I mean, which one
Speaker 1: of these guys goes? In your opinion? What do you think?
Speaker 2: I like the Hope call because of the potential upside. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's off the charts. They're not gonna move. They're not
Speaker 2: gonna move to Paula. Uh I could I could see
Speaker 2: Hope or TIBs as being auctions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you can you make Mike Saroto seven? I
Speaker 1: mean that kind of on base skill, he might Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get twenty eight. I mean that I was got
Speaker 1: serious stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you give up on that? I don't.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers. Yeah, the Dodgers don't anyway, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, They'll move some of those oatfielders. But if
Speaker 2: I had to bet, I would say TIBs and Hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and again. The fantasy standpoint. Fantasy standpoint, Hope,
Speaker 1: Hope has got the highest upside. But if you're the
Speaker 1: Dodger and you're Dodgers and you're looking at he still
Speaker 1: might hit two forty to fifty because his all of
Speaker 1: those guys, his hit tool is the most underdeveloped. That
Speaker 1: seems the most logical guy to move, even though you
Speaker 1: look at him and go, oh my gosh, that's the
Speaker 1: best fantasy player. Maybe not for the Dodgers. Maybe they
Speaker 1: don't care. And Tibbs is is just a they got
Speaker 1: him for Dustin May.
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, exactly. Whatever they they flipped TIBs for,
Speaker 2: it has to be a plus, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's gotta be right when you look at the cost
Speaker 2: of acquisition. It was, yeah, Justin May, who they'd given
Speaker 2: up on because of the health issues. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, by the way, when he went to Boston,
Speaker 1: he was terrible. Yeah, so's he's recovered a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's shown flashes here this year, but being the guy
Speaker 1: in the PA, but I mean he's still's got a
Speaker 1: four to eighty ear a or something like that. It's
Speaker 1: not that good. And they got James Tibbs, who was
Speaker 1: you know, moved a couple of times and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden goes to the Dodgers. Hey, put your hands
Speaker 1: this way, do a little bit of that. Here's our
Speaker 1: analytics department and yeah, top top fifty prospect.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, from judge to stud pretty quick, I would say, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. So it's I mean, the Dodgers are amazing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we've talked about this a little bit last
Speaker 1: week that and I did some analysis here. There are
Speaker 1: twenty out of the top five hundred. There are twenty
Speaker 1: eight players from the Milwaukee Brewers, there are twenty two
Speaker 1: players from the Dodgers. And then there's a team I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you guess that has twenty six players in
Speaker 1: the top five hundred. What is that missing team?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just trying to cheat here and scan quickly
Speaker 2: through the list. I have no idea how the Washington.
Speaker 1: Washington Nationals, Washington Nationals have been developing players extremely well.
Speaker 1: And that was that was a real uha moment for
Speaker 1: me because I was I was because I did them
Speaker 1: in alphabetic order, and I did the bottoms upperproach. I
Speaker 1: got to the Nationals, I'm like, I was tired, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, look at these just kept coming.
Speaker 1: And it's like and then when I in my ranking,
Speaker 1: so they've got so that accounts for sixteen to seventeen
Speaker 1: percent of all the top five hundred from three teams.
Speaker 1: It accounted for twenty five percent of the top one
Speaker 1: hundred coming from.
Speaker 2: That speak volumes. Eh, wow, that is crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what the make of that, but
Speaker 1: it does look like things have gotten a little out
Speaker 1: of balance. There are just you know, they're dying. We
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the haves and have nots in
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball sort of be a little bit of
Speaker 1: have and have nots in the minor leagues as well well.
Speaker 2: And you know why, when you look at the arguments
Speaker 2: that the players versus owners are going into right now
Speaker 2: as far as the new CBA, maybe some of the
Speaker 2: teams at the bottom of the list should do less
Speaker 2: complaining and do more of the leg work required to
Speaker 2: actually improve their systems. Okay, because the Brewers are going
Speaker 2: to feed off their minor league players for the next
Speaker 2: ten years, aren't they just the current crop? And we
Speaker 2: got a draft coming up this weekend. They're going to
Speaker 2: better their situation, as are the Dodgers. Right.
Speaker 1: I think the Brewers and the Dodgers in particular, are
Speaker 1: playing a different ball game than everybody else. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you have. The thing that's amazing about the Dodgers is
Speaker 1: they don't have to play the player development game because
Speaker 1: they can just spend more than anybody. But the fact
Speaker 1: that they do that is it gives them a tremendous
Speaker 1: backstop because if they guess wrong on paying a guy
Speaker 1: to big salary, that's okay, They'll just make up for
Speaker 1: it at the trade deadline and here, who do you want,
Speaker 1: I'll take your best guy. It's an amazing kind of
Speaker 1: backs up. The Brewers, being that the least profitable or
Speaker 1: revenue generating team in baseball, have had to go to
Speaker 1: this approach and guess what it's working.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, you tell you a look at
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, okay, and you say, well, yeah, they gave
Speaker 2: up your Dan Alvarez. That did not hurt per se
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, they'd be better with your Dan Alvarez. But
Speaker 2: you take a team like the Minnesota Twins, if they
Speaker 2: give up on your Dan Alvarez, that's a big deal,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and the you know, they didn't give up relatively,
Speaker 1: they didn't give up. They made they made a mistake, right,
Speaker 1: I mean that they they did. He was he was
Speaker 1: He was a eighteen seventeen year old, big hulking kid
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues. And that was back when Jeff
Speaker 1: Luno was the King of the Pile, and he scouted
Speaker 1: him and he knew what the potential was. And they
Speaker 1: basically they ripped them off. I mean, it's enough, no
Speaker 1: other way to say it. They they took advantage of
Speaker 1: the Dodgers not knowing the player that they.
Speaker 2: Had right exactly. But again, for a team like the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: I guess what I was trying to get to. The
Speaker 2: Dodgers can make mistakes like that. They can have they
Speaker 2: can have those bad moments. And they got seven flipping outfielders,
Speaker 2: you know, in the top hundred. They can do it.
Speaker 2: Other teams can't. They can't make those mistakes or they
Speaker 2: don't want to and can't a combination of both. But
Speaker 2: getting back to the overall concept, when you looked at
Speaker 2: how have you changed your philosophies at all in the
Speaker 2: first half of the Traditionally you've been heavier on bats
Speaker 2: later on pitching. And we all know why. You explained
Speaker 2: of any times have you are you still adopt adapting
Speaker 2: to that sort of philosophy on your just your pure rankings,
Speaker 2: rich like, where are you at as far as as
Speaker 2: far as the process is concerned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still prefer bats. I mean there's just less
Speaker 1: volatility on that. So you know, all things, all things equal,
Speaker 1: I am going to take a bat over over an
Speaker 1: arm every time. I mean, it can't be. Because we're
Speaker 1: a little lighter here with you know, top prospects. More
Speaker 1: pictures have have filtered into the top one hundred, and
Speaker 1: in fact, I have fancy little calculations. Let me get
Speaker 1: over to make it over to the list for our
Speaker 1: Patreon members. You can go to the summary page and
Speaker 1: you can type in you know, one hundred, put in
Speaker 1: one hundred as your thing, and it tells you that
Speaker 1: there are twenty percent pictures eighty percent hitters. That's in
Speaker 1: the top hundred, in the top five hundred, there are
Speaker 1: thirty three percent pictures, so third pictures too there, So
Speaker 1: that's how it kind of goes the breakdown of that.
Speaker 2: So well, you know, it makes total sense that pitching
Speaker 2: would be increasing on your list simply because of the
Speaker 2: attrition factor. Pictures at the big league level are getting hurt. Okay,
Speaker 2: teams are going to the minors and calling up pictures earlier,
Speaker 2: and they probably would like to. But you got to
Speaker 2: have arms somewhere, right, so where you know that backfill
Speaker 2: has got to come from their prospects, right, so they
Speaker 2: got to be moving. They're moving quicker, much quicker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again it could yeah, it is, and it
Speaker 1: could be just a long held belief I have that
Speaker 1: that hitters are less volatile and therefore we should rank
Speaker 1: them higher. But you know, dynasty leagues and fantasy leagues
Speaker 1: is all about pitching. So I mean, so maybe maybe
Speaker 1: you should have pictures out there. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I think pitchers develop a lot later than hitters. And
Speaker 1: there are there are the David Sandlin's of the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know he's not been good the last few times
Speaker 1: out but those guys blow up and double and triple
Speaker 1: a where they finally get learn how to locate their
Speaker 1: pitches better. They you know, they get better secondary pitches
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they go from a guy
Speaker 1: that can't throw strikes and platoon splits to whoa, what's
Speaker 1: happening here? And those are the kind of guys you
Speaker 1: can get late. It's hard to sit there and say, well,
Speaker 1: that's a top twenty five guy, because why would you
Speaker 1: put a top twenty five guy and he's got a
Speaker 1: six ear a. You know that's not hard to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the raw skills might be saying something different
Speaker 2: from worth that sixty year a. He could be pitching
Speaker 2: a renala.
Speaker 1: Well that's true, but but you know, and if people
Speaker 1: read the narrative, I mean, hopefully that's there if I
Speaker 1: may a mote for a few minutes. One of the
Speaker 1: problems about this list nobody reads the narrative. I mean,
Speaker 1: some people read the comments, but few people dig in
Speaker 1: to get, you know, the detail of the particular player.
Speaker 1: But if you read my write up, I mean it
Speaker 1: tells you, like what the event, what the positives of
Speaker 1: this guy is, and what he needs to work on.
Speaker 1: And I go into gory details, particularly on pictures. What
Speaker 1: you know, they got platoon splits, or they don't have
Speaker 1: platoon splits, they got control proms. He's athletic enough to
Speaker 1: turn that into control. Or I think this guy's going
Speaker 1: to work in the bull and it's all sitting in there.
Speaker 1: I might be wrong, but it's all sitting in there.
Speaker 1: But few people, well they don't go. They don't do
Speaker 1: that detail. They go. The guy's rank forty five, it
Speaker 1: must be pretty good. All right, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: See what where I try to feast on your list?
Speaker 2: Rich is not the top one hundred for the most part.
Speaker 2: It's interesting you see who's up, down whatever. A lot
Speaker 2: of those names are common, some aren't. Where I like
Speaker 2: to try and feast on this list is looking down
Speaker 2: from say one hundred to two hundred and fifty and
Speaker 2: finding the guys that have improved new pitches control pick one,
Speaker 2: but they're closer to the big leagues, and odds are
Speaker 2: pretty good. A lot of those pictures are going to
Speaker 2: be available, So that's that's sort of my target area
Speaker 2: is looking at those pictures from high to double A,
Speaker 2: moving up the rankings. Pictures I can get for next
Speaker 2: to nothing, right now, Okay, that could move up another
Speaker 2: sixty spots and then in the next three months, okay
Speaker 2: and try. And that's how I approach it. Anyways, each
Speaker 2: to their own. Everybody's got but you need pitching, and
Speaker 2: you're not going to get any of the top top
Speaker 2: five ten guys because they're all rostered. You got to
Speaker 2: focus on something that's reasonable and something that's attainable. So
Speaker 2: that's how I approach it. Yeah, I meant, how do
Speaker 2: you about you? How do you approach pitching in the
Speaker 2: Dynasty League looking at a list like this of ranked
Speaker 2: players where well, I could tell me where are you going?
Speaker 1: So you I mean, you can count on us on
Speaker 1: one hand how many DSL and Complex pitchers I have
Speaker 1: ever ranked on a top five HUNDERD. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't spend any time with it. Therefore
Speaker 1: I miss countries the kid from Kansas City. So and
Speaker 1: just because I wasn't following him, he went from the
Speaker 1: DSL to the Complex the low Way last season. First
Speaker 1: of all, you never see that guy. You never see
Speaker 1: you never see that, right, And he just snuck up
Speaker 1: on me and by the time I recognize him in
Speaker 1: low A, he said, oh, there's an interesting guy. He
Speaker 1: was already gone to Dynasty leagues because others were on
Speaker 1: it a little clicker. But I'm not going to waste
Speaker 1: my time on a seventeen year old kid in the
Speaker 1: DSL because it doesn't matter if they're throwing one hundred
Speaker 1: miles an hour or whatever they're doing. The likelihood of
Speaker 1: them getting through the process is extremely low. So I
Speaker 1: start to look at them quite frankly, when they're if
Speaker 1: they're starting to have some success in low way maybe,
Speaker 1: but it's not really until high A where they start
Speaker 1: to have success. And people are our Patreon members know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's mostly High A and up. I focus
Speaker 1: on pictures and those are that's where I fish out of.
Speaker 1: And it's I have no trouble to me fishing in
Speaker 1: that pond because they're readily available on waiver wires.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and it's it's much like I'll go through
Speaker 2: so time in the next week or so the All
Speaker 2: Star break next week, I'll go through and I'll look
Speaker 2: at those pictures from one hundred. As you know, I
Speaker 2: mentioned to you know, for John to do, look at
Speaker 2: the pictures between one and three hundred, one and four
Speaker 2: hundred and just find who's at double A because odds
Speaker 2: are pretty good that we might see them in the
Speaker 2: second half. So if I'm looking at spec pitching, it's
Speaker 2: a guy's at Double A that are still available. They
Speaker 2: don't have the upside, no, but especially in regraft leagues,
Speaker 2: you can find yourself some gems. Yeah, at least I
Speaker 2: believe you can't sure to me.
Speaker 1: And again, I do this for a living. I'm very
Speaker 1: proud of what we've created at the Patreon site. People
Speaker 1: need to join us at the Patreon site because just
Speaker 1: like with you with the waiver wire, you pictures come
Speaker 1: in with new pitches, they're bigger, they're stronger, et cetera.
Speaker 1: That's they blow up in the first month, and that's
Speaker 1: when you grab him. Carson mill brand is a perfect example.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a guy that walked five for nine
Speaker 1: last season and it did okay, but he comes into
Speaker 1: Double A shoving it and looks like a completely different picture.
Speaker 1: Carson mill Brandt is with the Miami Marlins. Now he's
Speaker 1: in Triple A, quite frankly, sitting right on the precipice
Speaker 1: of being caught up. Now again, he's having a little
Speaker 1: trouble in Triple A. But that's to be expecting still
Speaker 1: a young kid. But that's a guy who booked this season,
Speaker 1: and you could have grabbed him. Our patrion members could
Speaker 1: have grabbed him like I did in the first weeks
Speaker 1: of April. That's when you find these guys.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and in a situation where White has a
Speaker 2: questionable history, we're obviously knowing and we're not going to
Speaker 2: see him really until twenty twenty eight. All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: these kids are We're going to see some of those
Speaker 2: kids simply because of attrition.
Speaker 1: Right, Jonathan Santucci, You'll like him because he's an Italian guy.
Speaker 1: He likes saying there's Italian names. Left handed pitcher, left
Speaker 1: handed pitchure bets I saw last week and I'm just impressive, right,
Speaker 1: And he moved up from three point fifty nine to
Speaker 1: one thirty. And again, those guys are all coming up
Speaker 1: in the first couple of months of the year. You
Speaker 1: typically don't see a guy, any any pitcher or hitter
Speaker 1: breaking out in July and August. It just doesn't happen, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're somewhat playing out the string at
Speaker 1: that point. They're getting tired, a lot of them are
Speaker 1: getting hurt and they're the teams are working on stuff,
Speaker 1: but it's really in the off season where stuff gets
Speaker 1: worked on, where guys hit the weight room, et cetera,
Speaker 1: and they come in a different player.
Speaker 2: Cool. Well, with all of that in mind, I want
Speaker 2: to thank you for the for the general overview. Do
Speaker 2: you want to go through, say the top ten, top
Speaker 2: fifteen and take a look at them individually and then
Speaker 2: do some bouncing around then maybe subcussions. What how do
Speaker 2: you want to approach this.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take them, take a take a break
Speaker 1: right now, and then come back and let's let's go
Speaker 1: to the top ten again. You can get off five
Speaker 1: hundred of these prospects at Prospect three sixty one. Excuse me,
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Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: You get Tim on the Discord site and Tim's grab
Speaker 1: some questions from there, and that's where we spend most
Speaker 1: of our time and energy kind of squirreling around there.
Speaker 1: But Tim, we can go to tell you it's your
Speaker 1: it's your show, Timmy, which is very mater.
Speaker 2: But we can do that, and I thank you. I
Speaker 2: it may be dangerous, but until I get control of
Speaker 2: that zero point zero, but you have never seen dangerous
Speaker 2: at number one? Wow, what can you say? I think
Speaker 2: he's gonna Do you have any thoughts about did you
Speaker 2: have any thoughts about maybe moving Franklin areas ahead him?
Speaker 2: Or is it a clear number one?
Speaker 1: Look's not had a great season. I mean it's been good,
Speaker 1: but it's he's It's still more about potential with him.
Speaker 1: But I've seen him play live a couple of times,
Speaker 1: and I mean, just look at him and he goes,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this guy's gonna he's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: The power hasn't showed up yet, but that's been the
Speaker 1: physicality of the guy. He just needs to get stronger.
Speaker 1: He's a baby. He's nineteen years old.
Speaker 2: Double double A and succeed, Yeah, succeed.
Speaker 1: And he's again he's not having the Jacksonurion double A
Speaker 1: season they have, But I think he's a better hitter
Speaker 1: than Jackson Churio and he's gonna have massive power. He's
Speaker 1: got good speed. Now I think it fades every time.
Speaker 1: I will be shocked if hayesus my day is not
Speaker 1: an All Star.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Number two we have Franklin Derives.
Speaker 1: Saw him in Double A twice. Now I have no
Speaker 1: idea why he's still in Double A. Two guys this year,
Speaker 1: and I've gone to a ton of games, as you know,
Speaker 1: the two guys that had the best at bats where
Speaker 1: Franklin Arise and Ike Irish. They look like major league
Speaker 1: hitters where they shorten up when there's two strikes, they
Speaker 1: go the other way when the balls pitched on the
Speaker 1: outside of the plate. Use them when you go to
Speaker 1: minor league games, Timmy, I mean the guys are closing
Speaker 1: their eyes and swinging as hard as they can. I
Speaker 1: mean there's particularly the lower levels of the minor leagues.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the way it is.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's a big sign up there, gone vision
Speaker 2: right exactly. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm being dramatic here, but I mean it's it's rare
Speaker 1: that you see a guy that, Wow, that looks like
Speaker 1: that looks like what you see in the major league
Speaker 1: level with good players and frank and we've been waiting
Speaker 1: for Franklin Rise much like we just talked about with
Speaker 1: Hazus my day. Where's the power? Where's the power? Kept
Speaker 1: telling everybody there's going to be power there, and I
Speaker 1: look stupid. H And also this year seventeen home runs,
Speaker 1: so he's on pace for twenty five thirty. Again, I
Speaker 1: don't think twenty five to thirty is going to be
Speaker 1: his number. But if he's going to be a twenty
Speaker 1: home run ten stolen based guy that could hit three hundred,
Speaker 1: it's a great He's going to be a great player.
Speaker 1: Why he's still in double A is beyond me. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's some sort of organizational decision.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: It's not based on pure raw talent.
Speaker 1: Is this decision dysfunction? To Mateo tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Here well plaid, well played? Yeah, rimshot time at number three?
Speaker 2: We got im Ryan pronounce it right, Haws you Japaula.
Speaker 1: I think it's Osway to Paula. But if you want
Speaker 1: to say, how's you? I mean there's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys the first name of j O s U I
Speaker 1: s U E, and they always say Hasway. But look,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that can hit with big power.
Speaker 1: He's the Dodger. I mean, look, if you want to
Speaker 1: put Zayer Hope in front of from a fantasy standpoint,
Speaker 1: because he's got more speed. Okay, but the Paula has
Speaker 1: got close to twenty stolen bases a lot. With Miday,
Speaker 1: it's going to be power and batting average. They're young,
Speaker 1: they're athletic, so they can run. But eventually he's going
Speaker 1: to slow down. Don't think Zayer Hope's going to slow
Speaker 1: down any of that. Guy's always going to have speed.
Speaker 1: Does he hit enough? Man, I don't know, but the
Speaker 1: going to hit.
Speaker 2: Okay. At number four, we have Max Clerk uh uh
Speaker 2: down one spot. It seems like a disappointing season for Clerk,
Speaker 2: But when you really take a deep look, I think
Speaker 2: maybe it's not as disappointing as it as it actually is.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It just kids, got a
Speaker 2: pile of skills and he's young.
Speaker 1: Uh I think I think I think it's been I
Speaker 1: think it's been disappointing.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So my first kind of disc on I put out
Speaker 1: a primary Top one hunter to our Patreon members maybe
Speaker 1: a week and week and a half ago. Hey, this
Speaker 1: is what I'm thinking. I think I'm x Clark down
Speaker 1: in twelve or thirteen, And I said you know, caveat
Speaker 1: I can change my mind before some one comes out. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're mindless. So I just I mean, I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time like thinking about Clark, talk to some
Speaker 1: people about it. He's a good baseball player. All the skills,
Speaker 1: as you were saying, are there. He's still terribly young,
Speaker 1: and yeah, he showed some flashes early of maybe the
Speaker 1: guy he could be. He he hasn't had that big
Speaker 1: season where he's put it all together. It looks like
Speaker 1: that big season is going to come at the major
Speaker 1: league level. But I mean, he's fast, he's I think
Speaker 1: his average exivelocity is in the eighty eight eighty nine
Speaker 1: miles an hour. He needs ad a little bit more
Speaker 1: leverage to push the power up a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: all sitting there. It just hasn't come together. So I
Speaker 1: just so it's a pure scouting analytics ranking here, and
Speaker 1: I try to do that with all of mine. I
Speaker 1: know people on the Discord Signe particularly retrashing me the
Speaker 1: other day because I talk analytics all the time, But
Speaker 1: that's just who I am. If you don't like that,
Speaker 1: then then don't join us at the Patriots, because that's
Speaker 1: what I ad that's just who I am. I just
Speaker 1: think that. Look, if you look at the stat line,
Speaker 1: he should be a lot lower, but I think all
Speaker 1: the skills are there. So I'm going down with a
Speaker 1: ship of this. I'm going down with a ship, my friend.
Speaker 1: So I will admit if I was wrong, I will
Speaker 1: go down.
Speaker 2: With the s. So you and the violin player. The
Speaker 2: last one's off the Titanic, right exactly. So yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: fair enough. At number five, we got liol.
Speaker 1: Just go Leo Leo Da Leo Dallas these.
Speaker 2: Nah, okay, shortstop with the athletics. He's moving he's moving
Speaker 2: on up.
Speaker 1: He's had a great season too, and I mean I thought,
Speaker 1: I mean he's nineteen, so there's no reason to bring
Speaker 1: him up. You talked about like should we put a
Speaker 1: column in there for a guy who might get caught up?
Speaker 1: If if you, if we get on a show on
Speaker 1: Sunday or Friday and say, Defrice has got called up,
Speaker 1: it would not surprise me. He's really he's really something.
Speaker 2: He's ready.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ready. But the guy's got speed,
Speaker 1: he's got power. He's a really good short stop. He's
Speaker 1: he as good as Jacob Wilson. No defensively at shortstop.
Speaker 1: But I think Wilson's hurt. I can't follow by the
Speaker 1: way one of the one of the nuts side, and
Speaker 1: if it's one of the casualties of the last two
Speaker 1: weeks is I have no idea what's going on in
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. So the last time Jacob Wilson is heard,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going on with my fantasy teams.
Speaker 1: I missed Zach Zach Wheeler's last start. He was on
Speaker 1: my bitch. I don't know why I thought I put
Speaker 1: him in. I just missed him. So I have been
Speaker 1: a wall on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other Max Muns. He is now at
Speaker 2: a I did read that.
Speaker 1: I did read that, so yeah, I do like uh,
Speaker 1: I do think that Leo de Rice, I think we
Speaker 1: see him this Yeay. He's had a really good, really
Speaker 1: good year.
Speaker 2: Okay, Sebastian Walcock, I wasn't aware that I was under
Speaker 2: the impression he was lost for the season, but you
Speaker 2: were saying he's getting back, he's ramping up a little bit,
Speaker 2: getting back in baseball activities.
Speaker 1: He is, I've been told, should be the end of July.
Speaker 1: So he had elbow brace surgery and that's allowing him
Speaker 1: to come back a little sooner. At least that's what
Speaker 1: the hope is. According to people I spoke without it
Speaker 1: in the Rangers organization and as I right, as so
Speaker 1: many returns to farm, there's no reason I think he won't.
Speaker 1: He remains one of the best prospects in the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he should have been up already, Timmy. But as they say,
Speaker 1: shit happens.
Speaker 2: Yes, and the beat part of that is you're never
Speaker 2: going to change a It's still going to happen. To
Speaker 2: live with it, right, that is correct.
Speaker 1: But he's he's going to be very very good.
Speaker 2: Yes, at number seven, we have our first pitcher on
Speaker 2: the list, and what a bitcher he is. Seth Fernandez
Speaker 2: of Pitchensburg Pirates.
Speaker 1: Wow, tore it up in low way has been more
Speaker 1: mortal and high a. It's a guy that we thought
Speaker 1: could pull it, maybe pull a tray, you savage. I
Speaker 1: mean it was probably five percent chance he pulls the tray,
Speaker 1: you savage and rips to the minor leagues. Well, Hi
Speaker 1: A proved to be a little bit more challenged. I
Speaker 1: did get a chance to see one of his games. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it's the real it's the real deal. I mean
Speaker 1: it's big stuff. He walked. It was his first game
Speaker 1: in hi A and he walked two of the first
Speaker 1: five guys and then settled down. I thought it was nerves.
Speaker 1: Maybe the control isn't quite there yet. But I mean
Speaker 1: he's got size, he's got stuff. He's he's pitching to
Speaker 1: the right organization. Uh, it's it's all I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: it's all there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't add much to that. Number nine, a
Speaker 2: guy that I don't really know all that much about,
Speaker 2: but as soon as I see is with the Tampa
Speaker 2: bay Rays, it sort of scares me. The Deo Gillen
Speaker 2: at number age.
Speaker 1: Interesting that you say it scares you. It's interesting you
Speaker 1: say it scares you because the the Tampa bay Rays.
Speaker 1: If I take a look at the number of as
Speaker 1: I entered this process, the number of maybe players they
Speaker 1: had was huge, and then I just you just get
Speaker 1: into it, and the guys have just been disappointing to him.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they they they have not developed
Speaker 1: the way I thought of. I mean, Brody Hopkins, he's
Speaker 1: got some of the best stuff in the minor leagues.
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, he can't throw shrikes. I mean he's
Speaker 1: and that's what the Rays do well. They can't get
Speaker 1: him to throw strikes. There's a lot of pictures on
Speaker 1: the race. Uh Suarez who Santiego Suarez is one of
Speaker 1: my guys. His stuff is falling off. The one guy
Speaker 1: that has it well, there's a couple of guys. But
Speaker 1: Theo Gillen, who I like coming out of the draft
Speaker 1: last season, has really blown up this year and he
Speaker 1: looks like he's on his way to superstard him. But
Speaker 1: a lot of the other Tampa Bay Rays, the Carson Williams,
Speaker 1: the Xavier Isaac's and the guys that were we thought
Speaker 1: lot of over the last couple of years have just
Speaker 1: not put it together.
Speaker 2: Huh. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Remember Trade Morgan? Remember Trade Morgan with.
Speaker 2: The oh yeah apostrophe, Yeah yeah, all of the ad spellings.
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 1: The last I looked, he's hitting like two ten and
Speaker 1: with three home runs or something. I mean, just completely
Speaker 1: fell apart when he got to triple A. Just can't
Speaker 1: cannot hit hitting two o seven five home runs, striking
Speaker 1: out a third at the time. This is a guy
Speaker 1: that made tremendous content. Explain this to me, mister McLeod
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Yeah, he struck out eleven percent
Speaker 1: of the time. This season, again he's hurt, striking out
Speaker 1: a third of the time. I'm not sure what happened
Speaker 1: to this guy. Maybe obviously he's hurt now, but did
Speaker 1: something happened that an injury just he's been brutal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: There's a ton of rays like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because generally as a rule where they have problems
Speaker 2: is high aided double A right, double A to triple
Speaker 2: A shouldn't be that, it shouldn't be as challenging per se,
Speaker 2: that first big step, at least to me, that first
Speaker 2: big step is more of a measuring stick than double
Speaker 2: A to triple A right totally.
Speaker 1: But for the rays at least it looks well, some
Speaker 1: of it's going into double A, but it's I mean, again,
Speaker 1: Theo Gillen's been great, Nathan Following, who is a catcher,
Speaker 1: and Caden Bodine, who was another catcher that the Orioles drafted.
Speaker 1: Those guys have blown up tat and Gray has been
Speaker 1: tremendous this season. Cooper Fleming's been good, but Hopkins has dropped,
Speaker 1: Daniel Pierce hasn't played, Carson Williams has dropped, here's a
Speaker 1: guy that has remember Braydon.
Speaker 2: Taylor, Braiden Taylor rings a bell, he's a.
Speaker 1: First round draft pick a few years ago. It looks
Speaker 1: like a baseball player all of a sudden, so us
Speaker 1: so that they've had some wins, but a lot of
Speaker 1: guys have really fallen off. I mean TJ. Nichols is
Speaker 1: a guy that struck out a ton of guys all
Speaker 1: a sudden. He can't throw strikes this year. Jacob Melton
Speaker 1: looks like a platoon guy. He's dropped. I mean, just
Speaker 1: a lot of reds reds. And yet that's not good
Speaker 1: on my list. The guys that have dropped with no.
Speaker 2: I the other thing that's not good about that hole scenario,
Speaker 2: it was a raise. You need to draft. That is
Speaker 2: their source of Yeah, they're not going to go out
Speaker 2: and sign the big free agents. They've got to make
Speaker 2: their draft work or they have problems. Right.
Speaker 1: I think they picked second. M hm, So let's see
Speaker 1: they Yeah, they picked second, the White Sox, Rays, Twins, Giants, Pirates.
Speaker 1: Look for that Pirate pick at five, that's that could
Speaker 1: be a really interesting pick. But yeah, the White Sox,
Speaker 1: so somebody's going to get Rochilowski uh huh.
Speaker 2: And I don't think the White Sox will walk by them.
Speaker 2: I think they'll take them.
Speaker 1: I think you have to. I don't know how, I
Speaker 1: mean I get it. Our buddy Tim Webers thinks he's
Speaker 1: ever ready. He could be, but I mean he's a
Speaker 1: pretty pretty high floor. That's the other thing we always
Speaker 1: talk about when you do rankings, you do it the
Speaker 1: same thing.
Speaker 2: Is it is it?
Speaker 1: Is it ceiling over floor? Is it floor over ceiling?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, well, I think a lot
Speaker 2: depends on where you're at as far as your dynasty, uh,
Speaker 2: as far as your dynasty players rostered. Okay, if you've
Speaker 2: got an ample number okay of safe high high floor pix,
Speaker 2: well you can afford, and you've got depth, you can
Speaker 2: afford to speck a little bit, okay, and take those chances.
Speaker 2: If you're looking at uh a minor league roster that
Speaker 2: is stocked with high risk, high reward tize, well maybe
Speaker 2: you should get a couple safe floors and balanced it. Oh.
Speaker 2: I think a lot depends on the individual circumstances behind
Speaker 2: the teams. At least that's how I would think it
Speaker 2: should it should roll.
Speaker 1: So if we go back to the two thousand and
Speaker 1: twenty four draft, which when it was a Travis Bozana
Speaker 1: went number one and Connor Griffin went number nine. It's
Speaker 1: probably gonna and that Nick Kurtz went for that draft.
Speaker 1: It's probably going to work out that Connor Griffin is
Speaker 1: going to be the best player in that draft. But
Speaker 1: he went nine, but the guys in front of him
Speaker 1: were all college kids. Bizana, Chase Burns has been great,
Speaker 1: Charlie Condon, I still think there's Nick Kurr taken. Smith
Speaker 1: has been a disaster. Jack kaglin Owen's been okay, JJ Weatherhill,
Speaker 1: Christian Moore has been a disaster. But the Angels pick
Speaker 1: disaster players, so you get the and then Connor Griffin,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's interesting all those college kids
Speaker 1: and then they got the first prep guy and he
Speaker 1: blows up. Should the Cleveland Guardians have taken counter Griffin.
Speaker 1: Of course they should have, but they decided to go
Speaker 1: a little safer. They went with the higher fourth PA
Speaker 1: was on and so did everybody else. But the guy
Speaker 1: who blew up as a high school kid. It could
Speaker 1: have very much gone the other way. Countor Griffin, pick
Speaker 1: another name, could have could have you know, kind of disappointed.
Speaker 2: Brian Taylor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it could
Speaker 2: have it could have ended up in that hitting in
Speaker 2: that direct.
Speaker 1: Well, just in that same draft sixteen with PJ Orlando
Speaker 1: with the Miami Marlins. Again, Marlins are terrible at drafting guys.
Speaker 1: He's not a major leader, he's a high school kid.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And then you flip then you flip back
Speaker 2: to Mike Piazza being picked at a thousand or whatever
Speaker 2: it was, the odd the odd bulls and you look
Speaker 2: at Mike Trout. Yeah, where where did he go twenty five,
Speaker 2: twenty six when we're in there.
Speaker 1: Twenty one, twenty three, something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in the twenties. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But it's it is it is. It is risk reward,
Speaker 1: it's it's you're going to go to the high upside guy.
Speaker 1: And look, I think if you play it safe and
Speaker 1: and the the Angels have, I mean it's a perfect example.
Speaker 1: They play it safe every year they get Nolan Shannywells
Speaker 1: and and Christian Moore's of the world and as Zach
Speaker 1: Nido's been probably the only guy that's worked out, even
Speaker 1: though he's had a tough season you know now that
Speaker 1: Mozealak is a temporary guy running. That'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see how they do this draft because they need to
Speaker 1: get and and they're they're actually systems a little bit
Speaker 1: better this year, believe it or not. They they need
Speaker 1: to bring in some talent. It would be good for
Speaker 1: them to get a high school kid at the draft
Speaker 1: that's that has a chance to you can really build
Speaker 1: around kind of an Eli Willis of the world, a
Speaker 1: guy that really tooled off, very very athletic, and see
Speaker 1: what they can do as opposed to go in the
Speaker 1: Christian more round I mean, which is you know, th guys,
Speaker 1: he's it's not going to be anything. We knew that
Speaker 1: when he gets drafted.
Speaker 2: At number nine. Moving along, we have a guy who
Speaker 2: hasn't played yet this year. I know that you're still
Speaker 2: obviously very high on Apparently I was reading somewhere I
Speaker 2: think about Trey Turner, Turner moving to the outfield or
Speaker 2: something that would definitely help Aiden Miller, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't looked at the metrics on Turner. Maybe
Speaker 1: his defense is starting to fall a little bit. Remember
Speaker 1: when Trey Turner came up, he came up as an
Speaker 1: outfielder center fielder forgot who was playing shortstop for the
Speaker 1: Phillies when he when he made that move. But anyway, look,
Speaker 1: ad Miller, it sounds a little concerning, right because this
Speaker 1: is a guy that he hurt us back. He went
Speaker 1: in for some kind I was reading some kind of
Speaker 1: new procedure, which is not something you ever want to hear.
Speaker 2: Right now. That's not a good sign new procedures.
Speaker 1: No, okay, yeah, So but it's a lower blumbard issue,
Speaker 1: you which you know, I've had back surgery on my
Speaker 1: my lower back. It's it's not good. But I don't
Speaker 1: know how we can discount him too much until you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't play the whole season, I've got to
Speaker 1: drop him at the you know, going in next year
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I mean he's still got. He
Speaker 1: still was great, particularly in the second half last year.
Speaker 1: So I would assume he's still going to be good.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I I'm going to call our tenth pick.
Speaker 2: We're going to discus We're going to say ten A
Speaker 2: and ten B. H Okay, because we're talking a right
Speaker 2: handed pitcher and a left handed pitcher, both out of
Speaker 2: the Mariners system. One who I think is a gimme
Speaker 2: that we see in the second half in Kate Anderson.
Speaker 2: But you have him behind Ryan Sloan or are they?
Speaker 2: Are they ten A and ten B. What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on on Sloan versus Anderson.
Speaker 1: I think Slun's the higher upside guy. I mean, he
Speaker 1: just throws harder. It's big your stuff. Keate Anderson does
Speaker 1: ninety three miles an hour. I mean it's a it's
Speaker 1: not avelossit guy. He's got really good secondary pitches, good location,
Speaker 1: is a really really good picture. But I mean Sloan
Speaker 1: is the is the home run, that's the guy that
Speaker 1: you think can lead, you know, lead your rotation. I
Speaker 1: don't think Kate Anderson is. I think he slots in
Speaker 1: as a number two three guy, low risk, very very
Speaker 1: low risk guy. I mean Sloan still doesn't always throw strike,
Speaker 1: so there's some growth still that has to has to
Speaker 1: occur there. But it's big stuff. He's a lefties that
Speaker 1: I know. He's alrighty right, So there's a lot to
Speaker 1: like with Sloan.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. Do you agree that we'll see Kate
Speaker 2: Anderson in the second half?
Speaker 1: Tim and I were talking before about should we have
Speaker 1: a little column talking about when these guys arrive. I
Speaker 1: would have thought Kate Anderson would have already been up.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to take an injury or as
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the Mariners moving some of their
Speaker 1: major league starting pitcher pitching for some hitting. If you
Speaker 1: tell me by when's the trade deadline? The third of August.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a weird date this year.
Speaker 2: It's a weird date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you tell me the day after and they
Speaker 1: still have their six starters answers, No, he's not going
Speaker 1: to make it. If they trade one of them, or
Speaker 1: they trade two of them. I think the answer is absolutely,
Speaker 1: he'll be Then he is the next guy up.
Speaker 2: Okay, and if he's not.
Speaker 1: If he's not, it should be an investigation.
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, we'll start. We'll start right ranking their
Speaker 2: prospects with the Rockies. Write something along.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean it's it's yeah, exactly, we should.
Speaker 1: We will talk about the Rockies for a minute. So
Speaker 1: that's good Segmentiny, Let's let's take a break and come back.
Speaker 1: We're already at fifteen minutes. I hope you got a
Speaker 1: few more minutes.
Speaker 2: I've gotten nothing but time. All I've gotten planned for
Speaker 2: the four years and now.
Speaker 1: I just have a handyman coming in at some point
Speaker 1: to put in a shower rod. So so guess guests
Speaker 1: coming in in another week or so, And it would
Speaker 1: be nice if there was a if there was a
Speaker 1: shower curtain for the exposed to the element.
Speaker 2: So, uh, yes, well you can sit down, you know, hey,
Speaker 2: make up some popcorn, get a couple of drinks out
Speaker 2: and watch cycle exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: By the way, watching a TV show called The Beast
Speaker 1: in Me with Matthew Reese, who's wonderful actor and clear Danes.
Speaker 1: It's on Netflix. Wow, what a great show, kind of
Speaker 1: in that it's in that psycho kind of world where
Speaker 1: so the Beast in Me is kind of says it all.
Speaker 1: So Matthew rees plays a bad dude. So it's very
Speaker 1: very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with a title like that, I thought it might
Speaker 2: have been a documentary on that Norwegian.
Speaker 1: Player, which what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Oh, the Norwegian uh soccer player.
Speaker 1: I don't know what did you do.
Speaker 2: Oh he's just a big he's just a beast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know that that kid that's ruling the the airwaves.
Speaker 2: He's one of the best in the world and apparently
Speaker 2: nice kid too.
Speaker 1: I've been I've been ranking players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Norwegian Beast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, France won yesterday and that's I I
Speaker 1: don't want them to win the whole thing because they're
Speaker 1: the team that always like flops all the time, and
Speaker 1: they look like they're but they look like they're really
Speaker 1: hurt and then they pop up and start running again.
Speaker 1: It's long held, yeah, that they fake those to get
Speaker 1: themselves rest time, and they always bug me. Anyway, wait, digress,
Speaker 1: turn it back over to you.
Speaker 2: Well, well, what do you think There's a couple of
Speaker 2: players that I'd like you to discuss and then maybe
Speaker 2: turn it over to you and let you go through
Speaker 2: some of your favorites a little bit further down the list,
Speaker 2: like if you know, is there really any point in
Speaker 2: discussing discussing Joshua Bias? You know what I mean? It's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's but a guy that caught my attention in a
Speaker 2: big way is a picture with the Boston Red Sox
Speaker 2: uh ianson I I. I know very very little of
Speaker 2: this kid, and he's now up in your top twenty
Speaker 2: five at twenty five. What's happening with Anthony I? Is
Speaker 2: that fine to go through it? And that Are you
Speaker 2: okay with that bof around? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was a kid that you know,
Speaker 1: had potential entering the season and just I think he
Speaker 1: started let me bring up his let me bring up
Speaker 1: his uh hold on for second tim come back on? Okay.
Speaker 1: Started off in high A, really just ridiculous and high
Speaker 1: A zero point four to four e RA doing big
Speaker 1: stuff obviously from the right side, got up the double
Speaker 1: as it's been a little bit more mortal, but still
Speaker 1: pitching to one seventy eight era A just looks like
Speaker 1: he's it's a power arm, pretty good control if he
Speaker 1: can stay healthy. You know, the Red Sox are treating
Speaker 1: him with kit gloves here. They're not letting him go
Speaker 1: over much over eighty pitches and so he's only doing
Speaker 1: about five to six innings. I don't think he's gotten
Speaker 1: over six innings this season yet, but strikeout. It's it's
Speaker 1: good stuff and a guy that that kind of blew
Speaker 1: up this season when he came in with basically better stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: anything else you want to know, anything else you want
Speaker 1: to know?
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, he's at double A and he's young, right.
Speaker 1: And if I can just comment on Josh Bias a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, he's definitely sold out for power. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just swinging from the fences. He's got a huge
Speaker 1: appercut swing, so I hope it works for him. But
Speaker 1: he's going to strike out a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I hey, hey, if you solover power,
Speaker 2: something's got to be effected, and it's going to be
Speaker 2: that hit to him. That's right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: So he's we'll see I mean, yeah, I know he's
Speaker 1: been on your list. He's I think we'll see him
Speaker 1: in the second half. But I mean he has sold
Speaker 1: out for power. Everyone just just be aware, Okay.
Speaker 2: At number forty eight, keleb Bonnamer of the White Sox
Speaker 2: just a huge move up this year. I don't know
Speaker 2: what level, but if he's at double A, is there
Speaker 2: any chance we see him this year?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's in high A
Speaker 1: first of all, unless he he got moved up since
Speaker 1: I last looked. Look, so there are archetypes that we
Speaker 1: all know about. Speed guys, the Chandler Simpsons of the World,
Speaker 1: Savior Edwards, and this guy. In my little listening here,
Speaker 1: we've got Enrique Bradfield kind of the same guy that
Speaker 1: you hope maybe they developed some power. Edwards has developed
Speaker 1: a little bit of parentner. Where the speed has gone
Speaker 1: this season, we're seeing with Chandler Simpson. Last I looked,
Speaker 1: it's eighty four on our exit velocity, and I know
Speaker 1: people in the Discord site that don't like me talk
Speaker 1: about that. That's not hitting the ball very hard. So
Speaker 1: there's zero power there. So you have to worry when
Speaker 1: you when you got guys like that on your fantasy team, like,
Speaker 1: where are you going to find the power? Why Chandler
Speaker 1: Simpson went as early as he did, I'll never know,
Speaker 1: but he did. He'll probably get correct at next season.
Speaker 1: Then there's the archetype of the Kyle Schwarber's of the world.
Speaker 1: You know, power guys three true come outcome guys walk
Speaker 1: a lot, strike out a lot, hit the ball a
Speaker 1: long way. Kyle Schwarber has been a unicorn drafted in
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen debut. I think in fifteen or sixteen we
Speaker 1: count on forty home runs. But if he doesn't hit
Speaker 1: forty home runs and he gives you a two ten
Speaker 1: two twenty batting average, it hurts. I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: get twenty two home runs from Kyle Schwarber with a
Speaker 1: two ten batting average unless you're an one base percentage
Speaker 1: Lee Caleb Bonder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's still a problems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you still have to work around that. But if
Speaker 1: Chandler Simpson steals sixty bases, he's interesting. If he steals
Speaker 1: thirty bases, he's not.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: If Schwarber hits twenty home runs, he's not interesting anymore. Right,
Speaker 1: there's too much hair on it to be worth a
Speaker 1: rostering a guy like that. Well, Caleb Bonanimer, Eric Buttanti,
Speaker 1: those kind of guys that have seventy eighty gray Wall
Speaker 1: raw power are very comparable to Kyle Schwarber. Now the
Speaker 1: new one is Murakami. What Murakami did in the first
Speaker 1: two months of the season, we finally have the second Unicorn,
Speaker 1: at least temporarily. We need to see what he does
Speaker 1: over a long period of time. If he becomes the
Speaker 1: next Kyle Schwarber, you're going to see guys like Bonhamer
Speaker 1: and Buttanti, these guys that have three true outcome guys,
Speaker 1: they're going to get a lot of runway Because I mean,
Speaker 1: Mura Kami just was carrying that team much like Kyle
Speaker 1: Schwarber carries the Phillies and teams are starting to realize, hey,
Speaker 1: on base percentage, we're good with that, as long as
Speaker 1: he's going to get on base, hit power, hit with power.
Speaker 1: But fantasy standpoint, it becomes a little trickier because most
Speaker 1: people still playing on in batting average leagues. Bomber's going
Speaker 1: to have a low batting average. He's going to hit
Speaker 1: thirty thirty five home runs maybe more, and he's he's
Speaker 1: going to be a very good baseball player, but he's not,
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna have a high batting average at all.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure everybody kind of understands
Speaker 1: those kind of profiles when you're developing your fantasy team.
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball teams have done the same thing. You
Speaker 1: can't have. Well, the White Socks are trying to do it,
Speaker 1: to have at each position a three true outcome player.
Speaker 1: That's a power hitting team, and they're going for it.
Speaker 1: They're doubling down, tripling down, just everybody put a power,
Speaker 1: power bat at every position. I don't think that's going
Speaker 1: to be the trend, but I do think there is
Speaker 1: a world in which teams can throw out these guys
Speaker 1: that are power, guys that are on base percentage guy
Speaker 1: that is an ARC type that is starting to get
Speaker 1: a lot of momentum. I call them three true outcome players.
Speaker 1: But that's who it is, right and bottomber Guess what
Speaker 1: place for the White Sox.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you put Montgomery and Muricami. Yeah yeah, but
Speaker 2: they still have Antinaci leading off, who has a hit
Speaker 2: to him? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They've protected the big bats by having somebody who can
Speaker 2: get on base ahead of them, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting to see if it works, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you can have that
Speaker 1: many strikeouts in a lineup going. It might work in
Speaker 1: the regular season, but if you get you know, to
Speaker 1: the playoffs where you've got really good pictures in that
Speaker 1: and you're just you know, striking out, you know, you're
Speaker 1: getting fifteen sixteen strikeouts a game from a lineup, is
Speaker 1: that gonna work?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I don't either. I haven't a clue.
Speaker 2: Josh Adamski second basement with the Brewers, what's the scoop here?
Speaker 1: First, he's a Brewer, so you like him. High floor
Speaker 1: guy can really really hit kind of marginal power and speed.
Speaker 1: I think you'll have a little bit more power than
Speaker 1: he will speed. But he's a guy that's moved up
Speaker 1: a lot and a guy that probably had a little
Speaker 1: too too low. But it's just he's another one base
Speaker 1: percentage guy that can hit with you know, a little
Speaker 1: bit of power.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds sounds good. Now let's look at the other
Speaker 2: side of the coin Ethan Holiday.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, where do I have youth in Holiday?
Speaker 2: Do you have him at eighty nine? Yeah? Down fifty
Speaker 2: nine slots from February?
Speaker 1: No, there he is, yep? Yeah, from thirty yep. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. So obviously brother brother of Jackson,
Speaker 1: son of Matt. You love the lineage, you get some
Speaker 1: extra extra points there, right, What the worry was when
Speaker 1: he was coming through the draft, Big kid going to
Speaker 1: be big strikeouts, going to be some power. That's kind
Speaker 1: of of what his first season has shown, striking out
Speaker 1: almost thirty percent of time. There is power, there's high
Speaker 1: end eggs of velocity. But when you throw in the
Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies into the mix, I'm sorry, Tim, I get it.
Speaker 1: I know Matt Holliday played for them, and that's where
Speaker 1: he made his name. Until they until they can develop
Speaker 1: one or two guys. I'm just I'm skeptical. I think
Speaker 1: you've got to discount those players.
Speaker 2: I just do.
Speaker 1: Charlie Condon looks like he's turned it around. But look,
Speaker 1: if you've ever watched any TV show made in Albuquerque,
Speaker 1: that's an ugly place where balls fly out right, So
Speaker 1: and that's where that's where Charlie Condon is starting to
Speaker 1: look like a major league baseball player. Is he gonna
Speaker 1: be able to handle Sliderstone in the major leagues? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think there's big boy power. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's going to hit. Is that going to
Speaker 1: be the same thing as Ethan Holliday. Maybe, But the
Speaker 1: fact that he plays for the Rockies, you've got to
Speaker 1: discount him. I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, enough, yeah, yeah, I have no arguments here whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I got history. If you disagree with me, and we
Speaker 1: can point to player after I just saw a del
Speaker 1: Amador get dropped in the Dynasty League. It just sads me.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like he should be dropped, right, and
Speaker 1: it's like, what the hell happened to adel Amador? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like, where's Zach vieing? Like where are all these
Speaker 1: guys that had a chance to be something, and they
Speaker 1: get to the upper levels of the minor leagues with
Speaker 1: the Rockies and they just disappear.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, who is the lives back they developed that
Speaker 2: had it was star potential to.
Speaker 1: Maybe. I mean, Goodman's been been very good, but I mean,
Speaker 1: is he a complete player? I don't think so. It's
Speaker 1: a power guy, but I mean it's it's just been disappointing.
Speaker 1: And look when he got I talked about it and
Speaker 1: Ethan Holiday got taken by the Rockies, and then I
Speaker 1: tried to convince myself, Wow, you know he's going to
Speaker 1: be really good. It's great hitting the environment, and then
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. They get taken by the Rockies and
Speaker 1: it just you have to discount them until they prove otherwise.
Speaker 2: Totally agree. Okay, I'm going to turn it over to
Speaker 2: you and let you go on a rampage some guys
Speaker 2: that you like, say after one hundred, some guys that
Speaker 2: are are interesting to the point where where they're worthy
Speaker 2: of a discussion. Saw.
Speaker 1: I saw Caden Hunter pitch, left handed pitcher with the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles. I really goosed him up. I thought he
Speaker 1: was really impressive. Left hander was up the ninety eight
Speaker 1: miles an hour. Hasn't shown great control this year, but
Speaker 1: when I saw him, he was throwing strikes and somewhat unhittable.
Speaker 1: Really like that Rowdy Rodriguez with the Angels. The Angels
Speaker 1: have a surprisingly good farm system, and Rowdy Rodriguez ore
Speaker 1: a U d I outfielder with the Angels, athletic starting
Speaker 1: to break out with some power hitting the a little bit.
Speaker 1: I goosed him up from three sixty nine to one thirteen.
Speaker 1: John Gill, shortstop with the Atlanta Braves, comes in at
Speaker 1: one sixteen, up from three twenty six. Should have had
Speaker 1: him higher entering the season. The Braves, all of a
Speaker 1: sudden have guys that that can hit. I mean they've
Speaker 1: always been focused on pitching, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now they've got uh some hitters. One of the guys
Speaker 1: that we did not talk about was the guy that
Speaker 1: has probably been the biggest breakout of the season as
Speaker 1: Eric Hartman. Eric Cartman came in looking like Enrique Bradfield
Speaker 1: slashed Chandler Simpson. He was a speed guy, came in,
Speaker 1: balked up, got stronger, is now averaging you know, ninety
Speaker 1: miles an hour on his eggs of velocity with some
Speaker 1: leverage showing power created a little bit of power, you know,
Speaker 1: strikeout power for strikeouts. But that's a guy that's kind
Speaker 1: of blown up. So all of a sudden, you see
Speaker 1: the Braves kind of morphine from all they've been focused
Speaker 1: on is pitching. As the Ozzie Alsby's of the world
Speaker 1: get a little long in the tooth, they're starting to
Speaker 1: develop some of their positional guys, which is pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: And I think John John Gill is a very interesting guy.
Speaker 2: Well, and you get the Braves are digging themselves as
Speaker 2: a hole. What they created for themselves were losing all
Speaker 2: the draft picks, right, I got a few years back.
Speaker 2: But they've they've had to rebuild their farm system pretty much,
Speaker 2: haven't they.
Speaker 1: Yep, Hagen Smith. I'm not sure what happened to Hagen Smith.
Speaker 1: I probably would visit that. I see where he actually
Speaker 1: went off. He should have gone down. So here's here's
Speaker 1: a really really interesting player. Ohen Airs. I didn't think
Speaker 1: ahead of them at two hundred entering the season, but
Speaker 1: that's a guy who's twenty five twenty four catcher with
Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs that kind of came out of nowhere
Speaker 1: and has been been fantastic, So he's definitely a late
Speaker 1: bloomer in double A interesting guy maybe for the second half.
Speaker 1: Owen Airs a y e R s Henry la Lane.
Speaker 1: You probably remember me talking about.
Speaker 3: Henry la Lane six five six foot six lefty with
Speaker 3: the Yankees. Looked like Big Can, looked like he was
Speaker 3: starting to He really had a blowout season in the
Speaker 3: Complex League. This is a perfect example of a guy
Speaker 3: that looked like he had a chance to be a
Speaker 3: future star. So I invested in him. A lot of
Speaker 3: people invested in him. And then the last two years,
Speaker 3: maybe three years.
Speaker 1: Awful, could hurt all the time, and I wrote him off.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like he just wasn't putting it.
Speaker 1: Comes in this season, Timmy looking like the same guy
Speaker 1: was back in the Complex League, up back up the
Speaker 1: ninety seven miles an hour, wicked a change up. He's
Speaker 1: still in low way. I think the Yankees after the
Speaker 1: All Star break here because now all leagues going to
Speaker 1: an All Star break. There is no more All Star
Speaker 1: game in the minor leagues there used to be, which
Speaker 1: is always a lot of fun. They just have the
Speaker 1: week off. I think you will see him up in
Speaker 1: Hudson Valley and a guy that I've been telling our
Speaker 1: Patreon member, is anybody that'll listen if he's sitting on
Speaker 1: the waiver wire, you got to go get this guy.
Speaker 1: He's throwing straight. Everything is clicking for Henry L. Lane.
Speaker 1: Let me give it. I'll go a little bit deeper.
Speaker 1: See Yeah, let's get down in the two hundreds. Zach
Speaker 1: Earhart another outfield with the Dodgers. He's done nothing wrong.
Speaker 1: He's been hitting, he's been showing power. He's just buried.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just he's just a burry guy that's
Speaker 1: good on base percentage skills. He's got some power and speed,
Speaker 1: maybe a fifteen to fifteen kind of guy. He might
Speaker 1: get moved here at the deadline. If he does some
Speaker 1: trip away, you can immediately see him up. So put
Speaker 1: a little pin in that one for you. Camp Call
Speaker 1: you no idea what happened to camp Call? I thought
Speaker 1: he was going to be a lot better, but he
Speaker 1: just has not put it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a question on actually that actually fits
Speaker 2: into this part of the program, and I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know if you can provide an answer. But Jerry
Speaker 2: B from the Discord saye because I know we can
Speaker 2: include all Dodgers prospects, but he I'm surprised Chase Harland
Speaker 2: didn't make the list. Happy birthday, Chase. He turned twenty
Speaker 2: today and he's put up a three hundred and four hundred,
Speaker 2: five hundred plus season. Do you know much about Chase
Speaker 2: Harlan and if so, what are your thoughts? I do.
Speaker 1: He's a really really young kid just turn Yeah, unless
Speaker 1: you say, just turned twenty years old. No speed, can
Speaker 1: hit with a little bit of power, So okay, I
Speaker 1: just have not had a chance to dig into him
Speaker 1: enough to want to rank him. So yeah, look for
Speaker 1: him in the second half that I was a guy
Speaker 1: that will probably get on the top five hundred. It's
Speaker 1: a great call out by the guy on the Discord site.
Speaker 1: Third round pick, so he's got the pedigree, but this
Speaker 1: is a typical Dodger guy. That third round pick should
Speaker 1: have probably gone higher.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I always got I was going to say, and
Speaker 2: he would be the ninth oadfielder in that organization. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta draw the line somewhere, right, You got to
Speaker 2: draw I.
Speaker 1: Mean, just can't. You can't dig into everybody, But you're right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely a good call. Good call out
Speaker 1: by the person who brings his name up.
Speaker 2: So Jerry, Yeah, okay, thanks Jerry. I'll turn it back
Speaker 2: to you now for some prospects further down the list.
Speaker 1: Uh Franklin prime era catcher with the Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 1: A guy that's really blown up, really good on basis skill,
Speaker 1: with a bit of power. Only in the Complex League,
Speaker 1: but a guy that I like a lot.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: You start to get in the two or three hundreds,
Speaker 1: you start to see guys that have fallen as well.
Speaker 1: Who's that one? Jordan Yost, Detroit Tiger shortstop, a really
Speaker 1: nice season. He's a guy that's moved up Ethan Sean Keys.
Speaker 1: I've seen him in the major leagues. I moved him
Speaker 1: up to two fifty four. Still don't know if he's
Speaker 1: going to hit enough, but obviously huge power there and
Speaker 1: starting to do something. Oh let's see that came interesting?
Speaker 1: Chris Swarrow. I just saw a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and was it hya or it was high? It was
Speaker 1: a double A. I think it was double A. He's
Speaker 1: another catcher that's got speed, so you would like this.
Speaker 1: I think it was only a ten thousand dollars sign too,
Speaker 1: So you kind of root for those guys. Interesting kid
Speaker 1: that played well on Hya another really good season in
Speaker 1: double A. Doesn't get a lot of love in deeper
Speaker 1: dynasty leagues.
Speaker 2: But a guy there and where he's right on your life.
Speaker 1: He's what on he's down at number two ninety one.
Speaker 2: Okay, dang get and let's see.
Speaker 1: Let me give you one more guy. How about Eric
Speaker 1: but Tanti That was a guy brought up today earlier.
Speaker 1: Again huge huge power. He's gonna swing Amiss a lot.
Speaker 1: And there's tons of walks there. So again Milwaukee Brewer,
Speaker 1: first baseman, very anti, Milwaukee Brewer guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have time for one other question from
Speaker 2: the discord site?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 2: Okay. Don wants to know. He's curious about the big
Speaker 2: drop for Grissino. Is it just the injury or are
Speaker 2: there other drivers? And he says mostly flat per Fromelo
Speaker 2: and he's having a better year with more pop and
Speaker 2: he thoughts there there's a couple of questions from Don.
Speaker 1: Prisina was simply because he hasn't played. I mean, he
Speaker 1: could pop back up, and he dropped. I guess he
Speaker 1: dropped twenty seven, so that's that's fair. But I mean
Speaker 1: he just literally started playing a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I mean I made the comment on Sebastian wall Cod
Speaker 1: and a Miller why drop them? But I really goosed
Speaker 1: up Risino up to twenty two and and maybe had
Speaker 1: them a little too high going into the season. So
Speaker 1: there's a little correction there. Okay, But I dropped him
Speaker 1: just because he hasn't played. But I top fifty guy,
Speaker 1: I mean it's still a top fifty guy. That's pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Formella for Mella's had a great season. That's probably
Speaker 1: a good call. Why isn't he a little bit higher? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He probably should be.
Speaker 2: Okay, super Thanks Thanks for your question, don greatly appreciated,
Speaker 2: and back to you Rich for some further thoughts. If
Speaker 2: you have me, I think I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted. Let's
Speaker 2: just tell you absorb the number, sheer numbers and weight
Speaker 2: of this project and.
Speaker 1: Let's let us let's take a final break, come back,
Speaker 1: and I'll try to wrap this up.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Josh Hammond, Yes, short stop with the Kansas City Arroyos
Speaker 1: twenty twenty type of upside the second round pick last year.
Speaker 1: I didn't think a ton of them. I think I
Speaker 1: had him ranked two fifty six. Well, I know I
Speaker 1: had him ranked. I'm just looking at it. The guys
Speaker 1: who stepped up and another guy that was I think
Speaker 1: a second or first round pick was the was the
Speaker 1: Mets Matt Mitch Woite. I think it's Mitch vo it T.
Speaker 1: When I was doing my tour last week down in Maryland,
Speaker 1: I got a chance to watch him in a couple
Speaker 1: of games against the Orioles high A system. Really liked
Speaker 1: that guy, really athletic, good speed, hitting at the top
Speaker 1: of the lineup. The ball really exploded off his bat,
Speaker 1: So I moved him up as well.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I'm just looking at the profile
Speaker 2: sneak upside that that should have our attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then guys like Jonah Toong, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: really really struggling. It's it's Ah And I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to say I told you so, because I
Speaker 1: did rank him at twenty six, But I was really
Speaker 1: concerned about Jonah Tong entering this season. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: a breaking pitch, and look, if you don't have something,
Speaker 1: you don't have a breaking pitch, you don't have a
Speaker 1: ball that you can use against glove side batters. You
Speaker 1: don't throw hard, I got problems.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and justifiably so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jonah Jonah Toong's a little guy that throws harder than
Speaker 1: his body probably should allow him. He's got a great
Speaker 1: change up, but he has no breaking pitch. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a tough, tough, tough one for me. I dropped
Speaker 1: him down to eighty four. He's still going down. Uh
Speaker 1: Avy Arquette, that got him down from sixty five to
Speaker 1: ninety two. Miami Marlins. We could talk with the Miami
Speaker 1: Marlins almost in the same light as we do the
Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies. At least the Marlins developed pitching. In fact,
Speaker 1: they developed extremely well what's the last hitter that the
Speaker 1: Marlins have developed? And that's just another situation that it's very,
Speaker 1: very challenging. And I mean.
Speaker 4: Carlos Stanton and the guy with the Brewers now, oh
Speaker 4: you know, you know I'm talking about Christian Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean that they were great when they're the Marlins,
Speaker 4: and but that was two administrations ago, right, So there's
Speaker 4: a whole new crew down there, and they're just so
Speaker 4: terrible at developing guys one guy that I haven't given
Speaker 4: up one as well.
Speaker 1: In Francesca. If you take a look at his stat line,
Speaker 1: it's terrible. I still believed him.
Speaker 2: Hey, you're a man of conviction. Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: I still believe. I also still believe in Jefferson Quaro,
Speaker 1: even though I dropped them a little bit, that I
Speaker 1: can hit man. I yeah, I just I don't have
Speaker 1: to tell you. So I guess to conclude. One of
Speaker 1: the things that in just going through this exercise, and
Speaker 1: I brought it up at the top of the podcast.
Speaker 1: If if you're in Chicago and you hate the Milwaukee
Speaker 1: Brewers because you you uh, you refuse to put them
Speaker 1: on your on your fantasy squad because of the Milwaukee Brewers,
Speaker 1: you're making a big mistake. You need to you need
Speaker 1: to swallow it and move on from that. And the
Speaker 1: same with the Dodgers. If you're a Padres fan and
Speaker 1: hate the Dodgers because of Dodgers, you're making a big mistake.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're They're What my analysis have shown is
Speaker 1: there are a handful of teams that have They've got
Speaker 1: some really really interesting players and really deep systems. And
Speaker 1: the Pirates are right up there as well.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know you were saying earlier that what
Speaker 2: those three teams, the three teams you mentioned have something
Speaker 2: like fifteen percent.
Speaker 1: And sixty percent of the top five hundred, twenty five
Speaker 1: percent of the fifty percent of the top five hundred
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the top one hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. If you're ignoring that because of your quotation
Speaker 2: marks love for the game, yeah, you're missing opportunities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you just you need to swallow it or
Speaker 1: find a different hobby because they're I mean, the Brewers
Speaker 1: in particular are because I've met a lot of Brewers
Speaker 1: bress and it's interesting because the Brewers are becoming the
Speaker 1: farm system from the scouting and analytics rank for the
Speaker 1: rest of Major League Baseball. That's the one thing that
Speaker 1: no one talks about. But like you're you're out of
Speaker 1: the you know, you're out of the game. And you
Speaker 1: see guy with the Kancity Royal shirt on, I go,
Speaker 1: I thought you worked for the Brewers. I got I
Speaker 1: signed on with the with the Royals because they paid
Speaker 1: me more money or filling the blank. And they're all
Speaker 1: over the place because the Brewers have a way, particularly
Speaker 1: in the international ranks, of looking at players a little
Speaker 1: bit different. And I stress this because those are the players,
Speaker 1: particularly in dynasty leagues. That's where you should be mining
Speaker 1: from it. And if all of a sudden you've got
Speaker 1: six or your twenty five minor league slots are taking
Speaker 1: up with Brewers, that's okay, because yeah, and I have
Speaker 1: just stopped worrying about playing time. I worry about playing time,
Speaker 1: and they're in triple A I don't worry about playing
Speaker 1: time and double A high, I just don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the player with the tools, the player
Speaker 1: I think that are going to be able to develop,
Speaker 1: to be able to hit. And I'm going to make
Speaker 1: the assumption, maybe it's naive, but I'm going to make
Speaker 1: the assumption that somehow good players will rise to the
Speaker 1: top and get the opportunities, and for the most part
Speaker 1: that happens.
Speaker 2: That's truism. Yeah. I for me, Hey, old habits die
Speaker 2: hard and I'm looking. I'll always look for opportunities, especially
Speaker 2: prior to call ups. That to me is important. But
Speaker 2: that's just a game I play. That's not the real game.
Speaker 2: That's our game, and it can be very very different
Speaker 2: from the real one.
Speaker 1: Can it just gonna go to the to the Brewers
Speaker 1: real quickly? Ricky Money Mony's m o n e Ys
Speaker 1: ranked twot eighty, first time on the list. Just shoving
Speaker 1: at this season. I mean, it's in the DSL. He
Speaker 1: looks like the real guy Brady Abel whose brother's being drafted.
Speaker 1: I think he actually might go higher than Brady Ebel did.
Speaker 1: It was their second round pick last year. Looks fantastic.
Speaker 1: He's at three or three new ones to the list.
Speaker 1: Juan Martinez, another guy, another young kid, seventeen eight year
Speaker 1: Oldkult doing the exact same thing. It just goes on
Speaker 1: and on and on. I mean, it's just remarkable what
Speaker 1: the Brewers are doing well.
Speaker 2: And you see the success of Churio okay, and you
Speaker 2: see Jesus Miday barely outed diapers at double A. You
Speaker 2: know who we will see probably next year. Okay. When
Speaker 2: you look at the success that they've had, yeah, you
Speaker 2: can't ignore or what by that. You have to look
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 1: Let me talk about the Let me talk about the
Speaker 1: best of the bunch, and that is Alexander Freeze fr
Speaker 1: Ias eighteen year old kid that if you're looking for
Speaker 1: the next Jesus my Day Jackson Cheerio following in that footsteps,
Speaker 1: it is hitting. I've got him at sixty eight. I
Speaker 1: think it's the first time he's been ranked. Just already
Speaker 1: and started off in the Complex League, hit four forty
Speaker 1: one and thirty two games. Moves to Hi a excuse
Speaker 1: he moves to low A after thirteen games. Already got
Speaker 1: a harm run, five stolen basis hitting two fifty, so
Speaker 1: I mean he's flatten out a little bit. This is
Speaker 1: a guy with all tooled up. Looks like he can
Speaker 1: hit even in hot in low way a seventeen percent
Speaker 1: strikeout rate, so wow. I mean, just go to the
Speaker 1: if you're trying to you're new to the Dynasya League game,
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. Just go the Brewers, the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: and the Nationals and start digging through the You'll do
Speaker 1: quite well just by grabbing some of those guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. Thanks so much for bringing it today,
Speaker 2: Rich I I really appreciate it. I'm sure our listeners
Speaker 2: appreciate it, and again I am. I'm just overwhelmed by
Speaker 2: the sheer volume of work involved in this process. Typical
Speaker 2: cap do you a great job.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it was. It was a lot of fun. I
Speaker 1: appreciate our Patreon members being patient with me as my
Speaker 1: daily notes were a little light this week as I
Speaker 1: was finishing this stuff up, and I promise to get
Speaker 1: it till on Wednesday. Wound up on Thursday about noon.
Speaker 1: I got it out, but I just I wanted to
Speaker 1: get it done right. And look, I appreciate everybody's feedback
Speaker 1: so far. It is a it is a list, a
Speaker 1: living list, so it's one that will constantly be updated.
Speaker 1: But the next update will be shortly after the draft,
Speaker 1: so I'm already going to come up with an update
Speaker 1: with the players that were drafted slotted in, So look
Speaker 1: forward to that.
Speaker 2: Yep, sounds sounds good. Do you want to close with
Speaker 2: my waiver wire fixer?
Speaker 1: You want to pass on that one's give me a hitter.
Speaker 2: Give me a picture, Okay, I you're you're gonna like
Speaker 2: this because the hitter that I am recommending for this
Speaker 2: week major top one hundred list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was about to say if if he's
Speaker 1: if he's older than eighteen, I probably don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, because that's all I've been
Speaker 1: spending my time on is looking at children.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with your number eighty ranked prospect who
Speaker 2: jumped up seventy three points in Hector Rodriguez.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love how Hector Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I God call me foolish, but he's making
Speaker 2: my waiverware this week. And I think we see how
Speaker 2: Hector Rodriguez shortly after the break. Okay, he's hitting for
Speaker 2: a ton of power. There's an opportunity in Cincinnati. I
Speaker 2: just think we're going to see Hector Rodriguez soon. Any
Speaker 2: elaboration on.
Speaker 1: My Yeah, he's had a really good season. He's a
Speaker 1: guy that has always been told up. He's never walked.
Speaker 1: He swings at everything. This year's actually sporting. Last I
Speaker 1: looked like a nine or ten percent walk rate, which
Speaker 1: is actually bleak average. I don't know if it's just
Speaker 1: a small sample size. He is still pretty aggressive at
Speaker 1: the plate, and he's very very young, so you know,
Speaker 1: but kids are coming up younger and younger. But that
Speaker 1: would be my only two worries because that's all I
Speaker 1: do is worry. I mean, otherwise they all but I
Speaker 1: mean my worry is is he going to hit it up?
Speaker 1: Hit it up? Because he's so aggressive and too he's awfully,
Speaker 1: awfully young.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Okay, that's my hitter. My picture is a
Speaker 2: blast from the past that has started the rehab process.
Speaker 2: He's got one game under his belt. You're probably looking
Speaker 2: at You're probably looking at I'll say second week of August.
Speaker 2: But don't let Jackson Joe. Don't let him if you
Speaker 2: got if you got room, find a spot for him.
Speaker 1: That's that's a good call for I had forgotten that
Speaker 1: he's getting close to return effect. I think he's had
Speaker 1: a couple of rehab starts, so good. How's he done?
Speaker 1: You haven't checked.
Speaker 2: I think he's only got one start done. He allowed
Speaker 2: and earned run. Uh when a knitting in a bit,
Speaker 2: the velocity was very close to triple digits, if not
Speaker 2: at triple digits, So you got to like that. Abe,
Speaker 2: there's definitely concerns, but let's face the odds or high
Speaker 2: they're going to move Scooble and the timing of Schooble
Speaker 2: and Drove being ready seems to sort of fit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shame that Joe got hurt because it
Speaker 1: would have been pretty phenomenal have both of those guys,
Speaker 1: along with the much improved Casey Mice. I wonder if
Speaker 1: he gets.
Speaker 2: Hey. I don't think you can rule anything out when
Speaker 2: it comes to the Tigers, they could get their an
Speaker 2: entire bullpen and the Mets. Those are those two teams. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all's fair in love and baseball. They there could be
Speaker 2: and should be a slew of players moved from those
Speaker 2: two teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing I have been watching and like shock
Speaker 1: is how well the Red Sox have played. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're they're almost editing. There are only three games out
Speaker 1: of the wild card spot.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and stories coming back that's not going to
Speaker 2: hurt their cause. And Bennett is just pitching. It might good,
Speaker 2: good point, but I can't get over how well Ben
Speaker 2: it's pitching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's amazing that floor.
Speaker 2: I just tossed the dart there for the most part
Speaker 2: in the hopes that you know, not so much the blood,
Speaker 2: the extension and the control. And I picked him up
Speaker 2: cheap everywhere. And I'm smiling on both sides of my
Speaker 2: face about that pickup. That's it's a good coffee.
Speaker 1: I wrote about him because he got traded for a
Speaker 1: prominent prospect and it looked like who did he get.
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 1: Yeah, might have been Yeah, so so prolyss has got
Speaker 1: the obviously the high end velocity, and they basically move
Speaker 1: because they thought he was a bullpen arm and prolesse
Speaker 1: had Tommy John surgery or pre surgery. I get a
Speaker 1: mixed up. He's back now, he's looking great, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough to catch Bennett at this juncture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just just good stuff. Every once in a while,
Speaker 2: you just find one of those pictures out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: and jumping in early does paid dividends.
Speaker 1: So job looks like he threw thirty two pitches, fastball
Speaker 1: average ninety eight point eight, max at at one hundred
Speaker 1: point two. He didn't throw enough secondaries to really get
Speaker 1: a sense for anything, but I mean through hard.
Speaker 2: So nothing's wrong with the arm at least, no, no,
Speaker 2: nothing of the elbows intact A good thing.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. That is a wrap to me.
Speaker 1: Thanks for helping me with this when an hour and
Speaker 1: a half. I appreciate you hanging in there with me,
Speaker 1: because when I.
Speaker 2: Get to talking my pleisure, my pleasure, rich I could.
Speaker 1: Talk all day about this crap. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: that's all I know. I mean, I just I just
Speaker 1: go on and on about that's what I do, all
Speaker 1: on on about these players. And it was it was
Speaker 1: a great exercise, a fun exercise. And again, I I
Speaker 1: know we pip out the patrons, but that's where Tim
Speaker 1: and I are monetizing our work, and I just encourage
Speaker 1: you to come out there. It's it's a good crew.
Speaker 1: I think the content we put out there is great.
Speaker 1: I go out to the Discord site a little bit.
Speaker 1: TAM's always out there and it's it's fun. I think
Speaker 1: TAM's got the fun aspect of of the role I got.
Speaker 1: I got to pump out content, but that's that's the
Speaker 1: way I got.
Speaker 2: I got. I've got to I've got the easy job
Speaker 2: because I don't have too much trouble with fun rights.
Speaker 2: That's sort of in my middle name. But no, it's
Speaker 2: a great group, a very knowledgeable group, and it's nice
Speaker 2: to see the level of participation. The only start comes
Speaker 2: from me and it's directed directed to teams and players
Speaker 2: and it's it's just a good, solid group of participants
Speaker 2: that lay love the game and have a lot of
Speaker 2: fun with it. So I'm really enjoying myself. And again,
Speaker 2: like you, I encourage people to get to get to
Speaker 2: that Patreon site, look at Rich's rankings, get the daily updates.
Speaker 2: You know. He my email inbox always always has one
Speaker 2: or two things each and every week. So rich we.
Speaker 1: Every day come on every day, I cramp out. Uh,
Speaker 1: So I gotta, I gotta, I gotta pay some attention
Speaker 1: to my fantasy teams. I'm gonna make sure first I've
Speaker 1: got all my guys and pitching and and hitting that
Speaker 1: I want so uh.
Speaker 2: But well, for everybody out there, uh uh, Wyatt has
Speaker 2: been activated. Language Yeah, put him in.
Speaker 1: I got him in last night, so I'm pretty excited
Speaker 1: he's going in. Yeah, Mike ye got him in my
Speaker 1: three leagues that I have him in. So I've been
Speaker 1: keeping up, I guess a little bit just to big stuff.
Speaker 1: But I I I'm glad we didn't do a traditional show.
Speaker 1: I have been doing a lot of prep time because
Speaker 1: I literally, I mean I literally haven't looked at wrote
Speaker 1: a wire, wrote a world in two weeks. Yeah, what's happening?
Speaker 2: I think? I think Jerry Jeremy Paine is supposed to
Speaker 2: be back today. Martinez and Martinez in Cleveland an outside shot,
Speaker 2: but definitely after the break. Uel Martinez, Yes, Angel Martinez
Speaker 2: and Vinnie p Is on the rehab assignment.
Speaker 1: I saw his name up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of lots of big names returning off of injuries.
Speaker 2: Just make sure that you get as many of them
Speaker 2: active as early as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ny has been a huge disappointment, even with healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a big, what a bum to me with that.
Speaker 1: I will let you go. I will talk. We'll talk
Speaker 1: okay on Sunday. Take care of everyone, do your be safe,
Speaker 1: be well.
Speaker 2: Okay, be safe. You will