Speaker 1: Greenish changes everyone to Trick Wilson looking the Fantasy Baseball
Live is our Take ten with Tim. It is Friday
these July the tenth, except it is not a Take
ten with Tim. It is a Take ten with Rich
today because Tim and I are going to be talking
about my Top five hundred that just dropped yesterday, the
Top five hundred Prospects and Baseball actually four ninety nine.
Tim and I had one duplicated, so I had to
do a quick little flipper roo. But we're back up
to five hundred, so it is done, my friend, So
I'm looking forward to the discussion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as am I I was just simply flat out
were whelmed. Okay when I saw that list, and yeah,
it's not take ten, it's take five hundred with Rich.
We're not going through all of them, but that sort
of boy was it absolutely amazes me when I see
the amount of work that has to go into this project. Rich,
it's like I said, overwhelming, It really is.
Speaker 1: It felt overwhelming to do it this time, because I
think I shared last time we spoke, I had typically
the first cut of my five hundred, usually about first
first of June, and I was about to do it
I had maybe two hundred two hundred and ten kind
of profiles written up, and as I did last year,
the first hundred to one hundred and fifty were pretty good.
I felt good about that, and then it just became floaters, guys.
I had a chance to take a look at and
I the bottom two fifty was just suspect, and I
just wasn't happy with that. As we you and I talked,
I knew what was required, I was unwilling to do it,
and then I just finally said, I have to do
this because that's my job. So so I got my
big boy pants up, I rolled up my sleeves, and
there you go. I dug into it and I did
probably in a process that takes me four months at
the fall, I did it in two weeks. Again, it
was it was probably sixty to seventy percent of the work,
but that was a lot for two weeks. And as
I was telling ten last night, I could not have
done it without kind of systems in place, the AI
assistant helping me to edit things and you know, put
it into grammatically oriented forms, you know, all the write
ups and things like that, and it's you know, I
learned in my long career as a technologist. Once you
have a technology in place, then you can start to
really pump out lots of volume of stuff. And it
proved it. I was able to crank out a lot
of stuff in two weeks.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you've got five hundred players that you've profiled,
and each and every single one of them, if I'm
not mistake, and it has an ARETI yeah, it's only one.
It's a he know, it's only a short area for
the most part, it's you know, but it's one sentence
describes what's going on.
Speaker 1: Oh if my friend, my friend, yes, my friend, Yes.
Three and fifty to three hundred and seventy five of
those have full two hundred to three hundred world write
ups behind them. So behind them. Yeah, so that's the
other one hundred and you know whatever, five hundred minus
three fifty, one fifty or just short arrais a lot
of those are guys that were hurt. I mean, what
what am I going to write about Sebastian Walcott. He's
been hurt the entire season, So I just write he's hurt.
Speaker 2: Go back hurt. Yeah, look at last year.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I I lost year I touched.
Speaker 1: Well, apparently it's coming back in a couple of weeks.
That's what's interesting. If you write, bring my little, my
little narrative in there, yes so, but so that's that's
how it works. So if you figure there was only
about one hundred narratives I did not write, and all
of our Patreon members have seen those write ups, you know,
at one point or another, updated all of them, and
they'll be coming out in the next few weeks as
I write about more players. But it was it was
once you get it, get going, I mean, you just
it's more of a you just have to throw yourself
into it and just get it done. I mean that's
just the bottom line. Get it done.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I got to tell you the first thing
that leapt out at me. Okay, because again I've I've
got the full Gride sitting in front of me, and
it's very pretty and hey, nothing like a good highlighter
to make a guy's date. Okay, but the first but
the first thing I look for, Okay, yeah, you get
your ranks one, two, three, five, six, seven, eight, yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,
on it goes. But the thing that I want to
look at first, and I would imagine a lot of
our listeners are cut from that same sort of claw
is the up down in the February rank. And the
first thing that leapt out at me in a massively
huge way was that, Uh, comparing February today, I think
there might be ten, eight to ten players that were
top twenty five in February. They've all disappeared.
Speaker 1: See there you go. You know it's fifty three guys.
There's fifty three guys that have graduated off of this list.
Fifty three, so ten percent graduated off off the list.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then if you do it in order in three months,
In three months, one two, three, four, five five, top
ten guys, what do you want? Top hundred guys are
twelve fifteen, one two, three, four, five, twenty five top
hundred guys. So a quarter of the top one hundred
guys have have graduated off of this list, which is
kind of one of the thing if I can expand
upon that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I wanted to lead into this and
just turn it over to you and let you fire away.
I know. The one thing that's said to me right
away is, yeah, the game's getting younger, right.
Speaker 1: It's getting younger, and it made this process pretty challenging
because quite frankly, there are guys in this top one hundred,
if you will not to mention Top five hundred, that
you know, you look at and you have to wrap
your brain around going, that's not really a top one
hundred guy. That's like a top one fifty kind of guy.
But yet it's so shallow that the guys have kind
of moved up, and I think we need to have
that in context. Now. In four days, that's all going
to change because we're finally going to have new blood
coming in through the draft that happens over the weekend,
and then quite frankly, we are desperate for some new
blood to me because it has gotten thin and it
has gotten terribly young. There are some seventeen year olds
in the top one hundred, and I just, you know,
you just don't do that because there's so much volatility
in those guys. But it's just the way it's just
the way it's happening. The yeah, it's getting it's getting younger.
Those guys are getting promoted and graduated, and you know,
now you've got seventeen eighteen year old guys littered through
your top one hundred.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, Seth seth ornand is at number eight.
A prime example, he moved up sixty s bucks. Theo
Gillen moved up thirty one slots in three months, Ryan
Sloan forty one, Eli Will it's fifty one. You know
your top one hundred. You know Anthony I Aansen with Boston,
He's moved up seventy seventy five slots, sixty nine slots
for Sirota. Like, we're seeing people moving up this list
at an incredible pace, aren't we. What would it be
common to see a guy like Kendrick Churio two years
ago to be ranked top thirty five and move up
one hundred and forty three slots. It just it seems
wild to me when I start looking at the number
of young players that are just exploding onto the scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because a lot of guys that you mentioned,
if I'm very curious, right, Seth Hernandez, As you recall
back in the spring, he was my fourth ranked guy
for the first year player draft, and I panicked, Timmy,
I just said, I can't have a high school picture
going that early. I mean I had to go before Ami.
I mean I can't do that, so I dropped him
at the last minute. Turned out to be a mistake.
So this is that's really correction. Maybe he should have
been twenty he moved up to seven. That was a
I was not balled into Eli Willitts. I was thinking
he'd be more like a spaf of guy's a lot
stronger than his father. So that's a bit of a
correction of a guy that probably should have been higher.
Ryan Sloan is a monster. I mean, I've got him
higher than Kate Anderson just by one slot. But that
guy's has got top of the rotation stuff. He hasn't
had as good a control, so the forty one is
probably legitimate and he's really improved that much. Well, I
forgot the other guy that you mentioned as well, Oh oh,
the right handed from Boston up seventy five. I had
him as a top one hundred guy, but he just
exploded onto the scene. So it's kind of a combination
of guys that I maybe had ranked wrong coming into
the season, just should have been more bullish and not.
And then some guys that have just blown up. I
think guys that have just moved up because others have
moved out well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a few. There's a few that have
headed in the opposite direction as well.
Speaker 1: Oh, a lot of those guys. I'm also going to
point you to number twenty eight, Mike Sarota. Mike's has
got on base seventy two games in a row. One
more game and he will tie the minor league record
Minor league record for getting on base in a row.
So that's the kind of season he is having. Yet again,
another Dodgers outfielder. And look at this, there are three
Dodgers outfielder if I'm not mistaken in the top twenty five. Well,
I think Serota might be twenty eight. That's crazy, by
the right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is totally Yeah, there might even before
you got Hope. Is there another Dodger ahead of Hope,
I again, yeah.
Speaker 1: Jose Depoula. So it's Hosey, Apollo, Zire Hope, and Sioder
to the three top outfielders, and Dabbling is not that
far behind.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and that's insane in any other organization. Some
of those guys that already be up ye to.
Speaker 1: Paul Is at three, Zire Hope's at twenty, at Duardo
Quintero's at twenty four, not had as good of a season.
Sarrodo's at twenty eight, Charles Davelin's at thirty seven, James
Tibbs at forty two. They're all outfielders, all top fifty
guys from one organization.
Speaker 2: That's just the guy's a strong oatfield already.
Speaker 1: That's right. So my question to you is, because I
actually wrote about one of them that I think it
was Ay your Hope, Like, he seems like the most
logical guy to move. He's the most explosive, but he's
also the most volatile. I mean, they got to move
some of these guys, at least one of these guys,
to bring in some help here at the deadline, to
bring in a trek school ble. I mean, which one
of these guys goes? In your opinion? What do you think?
Speaker 2: I like the Hope call because of the potential upside. Okay,
it's off the charts. They're not gonna move. They're not
gonna move to Paula. Uh I could I could see
Hope or TIBs as being auctions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you can you make Mike Saroto seven? I
mean that kind of on base skill, he might Yeah,
you get twenty eight. I mean that I was got
serious stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you give up on that? I don't.
The Dodgers. Yeah, the Dodgers don't anyway, you know what
I mean, They'll move some of those oatfielders. But if
I had to bet, I would say TIBs and Hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and again. The fantasy standpoint. Fantasy standpoint, Hope,
Hope has got the highest upside. But if you're the
Dodger and you're Dodgers and you're looking at he still
might hit two forty to fifty because his all of
those guys, his hit tool is the most underdeveloped. That
seems the most logical guy to move, even though you
look at him and go, oh my gosh, that's the
best fantasy player. Maybe not for the Dodgers. Maybe they
don't care. And Tibbs is is just a they got
him for Dustin May.
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, exactly. Whatever they they flipped TIBs for,
it has to be a plus, you know what I mean.
It's gotta be right when you look at the cost
of acquisition. It was, yeah, Justin May, who they'd given
up on because of the health issues. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, by the way, when he went to Boston,
he was terrible. Yeah, so's he's recovered a little bit.
He's shown flashes here this year, but being the guy
in the PA, but I mean he's still's got a
four to eighty ear a or something like that. It's
not that good. And they got James Tibbs, who was
you know, moved a couple of times and all of
a sudden goes to the Dodgers. Hey, put your hands
this way, do a little bit of that. Here's our
analytics department and yeah, top top fifty prospect.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, from judge to stud pretty quick, I would say, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. So it's I mean, the Dodgers are amazing.
But yeah, we've talked about this a little bit last
week that and I did some analysis here. There are
twenty out of the top five hundred. There are twenty
eight players from the Milwaukee Brewers, there are twenty two
players from the Dodgers. And then there's a team I'm
gonna let you guess that has twenty six players in
the top five hundred. What is that missing team?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just trying to cheat here and scan quickly
through the list. I have no idea how the Washington.
Speaker 1: Washington Nationals, Washington Nationals have been developing players extremely well.
And that was that was a real uha moment for
me because I was I was because I did them
in alphabetic order, and I did the bottoms upperproach. I
got to the Nationals, I'm like, I was tired, and
I'm like, oh my gosh, look at these just kept coming.
And it's like and then when I in my ranking,
so they've got so that accounts for sixteen to seventeen
percent of all the top five hundred from three teams.
It accounted for twenty five percent of the top one
hundred coming from.
Speaker 2: That speak volumes. Eh, wow, that is crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what the make of that, but
it does look like things have gotten a little out
of balance. There are just you know, they're dying. We
talk about, you know, the haves and have nots in
Major League Baseball sort of be a little bit of
have and have nots in the minor leagues as well well.
Speaker 2: And you know why, when you look at the arguments
that the players versus owners are going into right now
as far as the new CBA, maybe some of the
teams at the bottom of the list should do less
complaining and do more of the leg work required to
actually improve their systems. Okay, because the Brewers are going
to feed off their minor league players for the next
ten years, aren't they just the current crop? And we
got a draft coming up this weekend. They're going to
better their situation, as are the Dodgers. Right.
Speaker 1: I think the Brewers and the Dodgers in particular, are
playing a different ball game than everybody else. I mean, look,
you have. The thing that's amazing about the Dodgers is
they don't have to play the player development game because
they can just spend more than anybody. But the fact
that they do that is it gives them a tremendous
backstop because if they guess wrong on paying a guy
to big salary, that's okay, They'll just make up for
it at the trade deadline and here, who do you want,
I'll take your best guy. It's an amazing kind of
backs up. The Brewers, being that the least profitable or
revenue generating team in baseball, have had to go to
this approach and guess what it's working.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, you tell you a look at
the Dodgers, okay, and you say, well, yeah, they gave
up your Dan Alvarez. That did not hurt per se
the Dodgers, they'd be better with your Dan Alvarez. But
you take a team like the Minnesota Twins, if they
give up on your Dan Alvarez, that's a big deal,
isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and the you know, they didn't give up relatively,
they didn't give up. They made they made a mistake, right,
I mean that they they did. He was he was
He was a eighteen seventeen year old, big hulking kid
in the minor leagues. And that was back when Jeff
Luno was the King of the Pile, and he scouted
him and he knew what the potential was. And they
basically they ripped them off. I mean, it's enough, no
other way to say it. They they took advantage of
the Dodgers not knowing the player that they.
Speaker 2: Had right exactly. But again, for a team like the Dodgers,
I guess what I was trying to get to. The
Dodgers can make mistakes like that. They can have they
can have those bad moments. And they got seven flipping outfielders,
you know, in the top hundred. They can do it.
Other teams can't. They can't make those mistakes or they
don't want to and can't a combination of both. But
getting back to the overall concept, when you looked at
how have you changed your philosophies at all in the
first half of the Traditionally you've been heavier on bats
later on pitching. And we all know why. You explained
of any times have you are you still adopt adapting
to that sort of philosophy on your just your pure rankings,
rich like, where are you at as far as as
far as the process is concerned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still prefer bats. I mean there's just less
volatility on that. So you know, all things, all things equal,
I am going to take a bat over over an
arm every time. I mean, it can't be. Because we're
a little lighter here with you know, top prospects. More
pictures have have filtered into the top one hundred, and
in fact, I have fancy little calculations. Let me get
over to make it over to the list for our
Patreon members. You can go to the summary page and
you can type in you know, one hundred, put in
one hundred as your thing, and it tells you that
there are twenty percent pictures eighty percent hitters. That's in
the top hundred, in the top five hundred, there are
thirty three percent pictures, so third pictures too there, So
that's how it kind of goes the breakdown of that.
Speaker 2: So well, you know, it makes total sense that pitching
would be increasing on your list simply because of the
attrition factor. Pictures at the big league level are getting hurt. Okay,
teams are going to the minors and calling up pictures earlier,
and they probably would like to. But you got to
have arms somewhere, right, so where you know that backfill
has got to come from their prospects, right, so they
got to be moving. They're moving quicker, much quicker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again it could yeah, it is, and it
could be just a long held belief I have that
that hitters are less volatile and therefore we should rank
them higher. But you know, dynasty leagues and fantasy leagues
is all about pitching. So I mean, so maybe maybe
you should have pictures out there. But you know what,
I think pitchers develop a lot later than hitters. And
there are there are the David Sandlin's of the world. Yeah,
I know he's not been good the last few times
out but those guys blow up and double and triple
a where they finally get learn how to locate their
pitches better. They you know, they get better secondary pitches
and all of a sudden they go from a guy
that can't throw strikes and platoon splits to whoa, what's
happening here? And those are the kind of guys you
can get late. It's hard to sit there and say, well,
that's a top twenty five guy, because why would you
put a top twenty five guy and he's got a
six ear a. You know that's not hard to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the raw skills might be saying something different
from worth that sixty year a. He could be pitching
a renala.
Speaker 1: Well that's true, but but you know, and if people
read the narrative, I mean, hopefully that's there if I
may a mote for a few minutes. One of the
problems about this list nobody reads the narrative. I mean,
some people read the comments, but few people dig in
to get, you know, the detail of the particular player.
But if you read my write up, I mean it
tells you, like what the event, what the positives of
this guy is, and what he needs to work on.
And I go into gory details, particularly on pictures. What
you know, they got platoon splits, or they don't have
platoon splits, they got control proms. He's athletic enough to
turn that into control. Or I think this guy's going
to work in the bull and it's all sitting in there.
I might be wrong, but it's all sitting in there.
But few people, well they don't go. They don't do
that detail. They go. The guy's rank forty five, it
must be pretty good. All right, Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: See what where I try to feast on your list?
Rich is not the top one hundred for the most part.
It's interesting you see who's up, down whatever. A lot
of those names are common, some aren't. Where I like
to try and feast on this list is looking down
from say one hundred to two hundred and fifty and
finding the guys that have improved new pitches control pick one,
but they're closer to the big leagues, and odds are
pretty good. A lot of those pictures are going to
be available, So that's that's sort of my target area
is looking at those pictures from high to double A,
moving up the rankings. Pictures I can get for next
to nothing, right now, Okay, that could move up another
sixty spots and then in the next three months, okay
and try. And that's how I approach it. Anyways, each
to their own. Everybody's got but you need pitching, and
you're not going to get any of the top top
five ten guys because they're all rostered. You got to
focus on something that's reasonable and something that's attainable. So
that's how I approach it. Yeah, I meant, how do
you about you? How do you approach pitching in the
Dynasty League looking at a list like this of ranked
players where well, I could tell me where are you going?
Speaker 1: So you I mean, you can count on us on
one hand how many DSL and Complex pitchers I have
ever ranked on a top five HUNDERD. I mean, I
just don't. I don't spend any time with it. Therefore
I miss countries the kid from Kansas City. So and
just because I wasn't following him, he went from the
DSL to the Complex the low Way last season. First
of all, you never see that guy. You never see
you never see that, right, And he just snuck up
on me and by the time I recognize him in
low A, he said, oh, there's an interesting guy. He
was already gone to Dynasty leagues because others were on
it a little clicker. But I'm not going to waste
my time on a seventeen year old kid in the
DSL because it doesn't matter if they're throwing one hundred
miles an hour or whatever they're doing. The likelihood of
them getting through the process is extremely low. So I
start to look at them quite frankly, when they're if
they're starting to have some success in low way maybe,
but it's not really until high A where they start
to have success. And people are our Patreon members know,
I mean, it's mostly High A and up. I focus
on pictures and those are that's where I fish out of.
And it's I have no trouble to me fishing in
that pond because they're readily available on waiver wires.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and it's it's much like I'll go through
so time in the next week or so the All
Star break next week, I'll go through and I'll look
at those pictures from one hundred. As you know, I
mentioned to you know, for John to do, look at
the pictures between one and three hundred, one and four
hundred and just find who's at double A because odds
are pretty good that we might see them in the
second half. So if I'm looking at spec pitching, it's
a guy's at Double A that are still available. They
don't have the upside, no, but especially in regraft leagues,
you can find yourself some gems. Yeah, at least I
believe you can't sure to me.
Speaker 1: And again, I do this for a living. I'm very
proud of what we've created at the Patreon site. People
need to join us at the Patreon site because just
like with you with the waiver wire, you pictures come
in with new pitches, they're bigger, they're stronger, et cetera.
That's they blow up in the first month, and that's
when you grab him. Carson mill brand is a perfect example.
I mean, it's a guy that walked five for nine
last season and it did okay, but he comes into
Double A shoving it and looks like a completely different picture.
Carson mill Brandt is with the Miami Marlins. Now he's
in Triple A, quite frankly, sitting right on the precipice
of being caught up. Now again, he's having a little
trouble in Triple A. But that's to be expecting still
a young kid. But that's a guy who booked this season,
and you could have grabbed him. Our patrion members could
have grabbed him like I did in the first weeks
of April. That's when you find these guys.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and in a situation where White has a
questionable history, we're obviously knowing and we're not going to
see him really until twenty twenty eight. All of a sudden,
these kids are We're going to see some of those
kids simply because of attrition.
Speaker 1: Right, Jonathan Santucci, You'll like him because he's an Italian guy.
He likes saying there's Italian names. Left handed pitcher, left
handed pitchure bets I saw last week and I'm just impressive, right,
And he moved up from three point fifty nine to
one thirty. And again, those guys are all coming up
in the first couple of months of the year. You
typically don't see a guy, any any pitcher or hitter
breaking out in July and August. It just doesn't happen, right,
I mean, they're they're somewhat playing out the string at
that point. They're getting tired, a lot of them are
getting hurt and they're the teams are working on stuff,
but it's really in the off season where stuff gets
worked on, where guys hit the weight room, et cetera,
and they come in a different player.
Speaker 2: Cool. Well, with all of that in mind, I want
to thank you for the for the general overview. Do
you want to go through, say the top ten, top
fifteen and take a look at them individually and then
do some bouncing around then maybe subcussions. What how do
you want to approach this.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take them, take a take a break
right now, and then come back and let's let's go
to the top ten again. You can get off five
hundred of these prospects at Prospect three sixty one. Excuse me,
the patrons ie pat r o n dot com for
Sled Prospect through sixty one. I think yesterday we had
about twenty new members joined. So so it people do
see the stuff and they jump on, which is pretty cool, right,
So I encourage you to jump out and join us.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: You get Tim on the Discord site and Tim's grab
some questions from there, and that's where we spend most
of our time and energy kind of squirreling around there.
But Tim, we can go to tell you it's your
it's your show, Timmy, which is very mater.
Speaker 2: But we can do that, and I thank you. I
it may be dangerous, but until I get control of
that zero point zero, but you have never seen dangerous
at number one? Wow, what can you say? I think
he's gonna Do you have any thoughts about did you
have any thoughts about maybe moving Franklin areas ahead him?
Or is it a clear number one?
Speaker 1: Look's not had a great season. I mean it's been good,
but it's he's It's still more about potential with him.
But I've seen him play live a couple of times,
and I mean, just look at him and he goes,
Oh my gosh, this guy's gonna he's gonna be good.
The power hasn't showed up yet, but that's been the
physicality of the guy. He just needs to get stronger.
He's a baby. He's nineteen years old.
Speaker 2: Double double A and succeed, Yeah, succeed.
Speaker 1: And he's again he's not having the Jacksonurion double A
season they have, But I think he's a better hitter
than Jackson Churio and he's gonna have massive power. He's
got good speed. Now I think it fades every time.
I will be shocked if hayesus my day is not
an All Star.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Number two we have Franklin Derives.
Speaker 1: Saw him in Double A twice. Now I have no
idea why he's still in Double A. Two guys this year,
and I've gone to a ton of games, as you know,
the two guys that had the best at bats where
Franklin Arise and Ike Irish. They look like major league
hitters where they shorten up when there's two strikes, they
go the other way when the balls pitched on the
outside of the plate. Use them when you go to
minor league games, Timmy, I mean the guys are closing
their eyes and swinging as hard as they can. I
mean there's particularly the lower levels of the minor leagues.
I mean, this is the way it is.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's a big sign up there, gone vision
right exactly. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm being dramatic here, but I mean it's it's rare
that you see a guy that, Wow, that looks like
that looks like what you see in the major league
level with good players and frank and we've been waiting
for Franklin Rise much like we just talked about with
Hazus my day. Where's the power? Where's the power? Kept
telling everybody there's going to be power there, and I
look stupid. H And also this year seventeen home runs,
so he's on pace for twenty five thirty. Again, I
don't think twenty five to thirty is going to be
his number. But if he's going to be a twenty
home run ten stolen based guy that could hit three hundred,
it's a great He's going to be a great player.
Why he's still in double A is beyond me. I
don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's some sort of organizational decision.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: It's not based on pure raw talent.
Speaker 1: Is this decision dysfunction? To Mateo tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Here well plaid, well played? Yeah, rimshot time at number three?
We got im Ryan pronounce it right, Haws you Japaula.
Speaker 1: I think it's Osway to Paula. But if you want
to say, how's you? I mean there's a lot of
guys the first name of j O s U I
s U E, and they always say Hasway. But look,
this is a guy that can hit with big power.
He's the Dodger. I mean, look, if you want to
put Zayer Hope in front of from a fantasy standpoint,
because he's got more speed. Okay, but the Paula has
got close to twenty stolen bases a lot. With Miday,
it's going to be power and batting average. They're young,
they're athletic, so they can run. But eventually he's going
to slow down. Don't think Zayer Hope's going to slow
down any of that. Guy's always going to have speed.
Does he hit enough? Man, I don't know, but the
going to hit.
Speaker 2: Okay. At number four, we have Max Clerk uh uh
down one spot. It seems like a disappointing season for Clerk,
But when you really take a deep look, I think
maybe it's not as disappointing as it as it actually is.
You know what I mean? It just kids, got a
pile of skills and he's young.
Speaker 1: Uh I think I think I think it's been I
think it's been disappointing.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So my first kind of disc on I put out
a primary Top one hunter to our Patreon members maybe
a week and week and a half ago. Hey, this
is what I'm thinking. I think I'm x Clark down
in twelve or thirteen, And I said you know, caveat
I can change my mind before some one comes out. Uh, yeah,
you're mindless. So I just I mean, I spent a
lot of time like thinking about Clark, talk to some
people about it. He's a good baseball player. All the skills,
as you were saying, are there. He's still terribly young,
and yeah, he showed some flashes early of maybe the
guy he could be. He he hasn't had that big
season where he's put it all together. It looks like
that big season is going to come at the major
league level. But I mean, he's fast, he's I think
his average exivelocity is in the eighty eight eighty nine
miles an hour. He needs ad a little bit more
leverage to push the power up a little bit. It's
all sitting there. It just hasn't come together. So I
just so it's a pure scouting analytics ranking here, and
I try to do that with all of mine. I
know people on the Discord Signe particularly retrashing me the
other day because I talk analytics all the time, But
that's just who I am. If you don't like that,
then then don't join us at the Patriots, because that's
what I ad that's just who I am. I just
think that. Look, if you look at the stat line,
he should be a lot lower, but I think all
the skills are there. So I'm going down with a
ship of this. I'm going down with a ship, my friend.
So I will admit if I was wrong, I will
go down.
Speaker 2: With the s. So you and the violin player. The
last one's off the Titanic, right exactly. So yeah, okay,
fair enough. At number five, we got liol.
Speaker 1: Just go Leo Leo Da Leo Dallas these.
Speaker 2: Nah, okay, shortstop with the athletics. He's moving he's moving
on up.
Speaker 1: He's had a great season too, and I mean I thought,
I mean he's nineteen, so there's no reason to bring
him up. You talked about like should we put a
column in there for a guy who might get caught up?
If if you, if we get on a show on
Sunday or Friday and say, Defrice has got called up,
it would not surprise me. He's really he's really something.
Speaker 2: He's ready.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ready. But the guy's got speed,
he's got power. He's a really good short stop. He's
he as good as Jacob Wilson. No defensively at shortstop.
But I think Wilson's hurt. I can't follow by the
way one of the one of the nuts side, and
if it's one of the casualties of the last two
weeks is I have no idea what's going on in
Major League Baseball. So the last time Jacob Wilson is heard,
I have no idea what's going on with my fantasy teams.
I missed Zach Zach Wheeler's last start. He was on
my bitch. I don't know why I thought I put
him in. I just missed him. So I have been
a wall on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other Max Muns. He is now at
a I did read that.
Speaker 1: I did read that, so yeah, I do like uh,
I do think that Leo de Rice, I think we
see him this Yeay. He's had a really good, really
good year.
Speaker 2: Okay, Sebastian Walcock, I wasn't aware that I was under
the impression he was lost for the season, but you
were saying he's getting back, he's ramping up a little bit,
getting back in baseball activities.
Speaker 1: He is, I've been told, should be the end of July.
So he had elbow brace surgery and that's allowing him
to come back a little sooner. At least that's what
the hope is. According to people I spoke without it
in the Rangers organization and as I right, as so
many returns to farm, there's no reason I think he won't.
He remains one of the best prospects in the game. Yeah,
he should have been up already, Timmy. But as they say,
shit happens.
Speaker 2: Yes, and the beat part of that is you're never
going to change a It's still going to happen. To
live with it, right, that is correct.
Speaker 1: But he's he's going to be very very good.
Speaker 2: Yes, at number seven, we have our first pitcher on
the list, and what a bitcher he is. Seth Fernandez
of Pitchensburg Pirates.
Speaker 1: Wow, tore it up in low way has been more
mortal and high a. It's a guy that we thought
could pull it, maybe pull a tray, you savage. I
mean it was probably five percent chance he pulls the tray,
you savage and rips to the minor leagues. Well, Hi
A proved to be a little bit more challenged. I
did get a chance to see one of his games. Uh,
and it's the real it's the real deal. I mean
it's big stuff. He walked. It was his first game
in hi A and he walked two of the first
five guys and then settled down. I thought it was nerves.
Maybe the control isn't quite there yet. But I mean
he's got size, he's got stuff. He's he's pitching to
the right organization. Uh, it's it's all I mean, come on,
it's all there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't add much to that. Number nine, a
guy that I don't really know all that much about,
but as soon as I see is with the Tampa
bay Rays, it sort of scares me. The Deo Gillen
at number age.
Speaker 1: Interesting that you say it scares you. It's interesting you
say it scares you because the the Tampa bay Rays.
If I take a look at the number of as
I entered this process, the number of maybe players they
had was huge, and then I just you just get
into it, and the guys have just been disappointing to him.
I mean, you know, they they they have not developed
the way I thought of. I mean, Brody Hopkins, he's
got some of the best stuff in the minor leagues.
I mean absolutely, he can't throw shrikes. I mean he's
and that's what the Rays do well. They can't get
him to throw strikes. There's a lot of pictures on
the race. Uh Suarez who Santiego Suarez is one of
my guys. His stuff is falling off. The one guy
that has it well, there's a couple of guys. But
Theo Gillen, who I like coming out of the draft
last season, has really blown up this year and he
looks like he's on his way to superstard him. But
a lot of the other Tampa Bay Rays, the Carson Williams,
the Xavier Isaac's and the guys that were we thought
lot of over the last couple of years have just
not put it together.
Speaker 2: Huh. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Remember Trade Morgan? Remember Trade Morgan with.
Speaker 2: The oh yeah apostrophe, Yeah yeah, all of the ad spellings.
I remember.
Speaker 1: The last I looked, he's hitting like two ten and
with three home runs or something. I mean, just completely
fell apart when he got to triple A. Just can't
cannot hit hitting two o seven five home runs, striking
out a third at the time. This is a guy
that made tremendous content. Explain this to me, mister McLeod
in twenty twenty four. Yeah, he struck out eleven percent
of the time. This season, again he's hurt, striking out
a third of the time. I'm not sure what happened
to this guy. Maybe obviously he's hurt now, but did
something happened that an injury just he's been brutal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: There's a ton of rays like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because generally as a rule where they have problems
is high aided double A right, double A to triple
A shouldn't be that, it shouldn't be as challenging per se,
that first big step, at least to me, that first
big step is more of a measuring stick than double
A to triple A right totally.
Speaker 1: But for the rays at least it looks well, some
of it's going into double A, but it's I mean, again,
Theo Gillen's been great, Nathan Following, who is a catcher,
and Caden Bodine, who was another catcher that the Orioles drafted.
Those guys have blown up tat and Gray has been
tremendous this season. Cooper Fleming's been good, but Hopkins has dropped,
Daniel Pierce hasn't played, Carson Williams has dropped, here's a
guy that has remember Braydon.
Speaker 2: Taylor, Braiden Taylor rings a bell, he's a.
Speaker 1: First round draft pick a few years ago. It looks
like a baseball player all of a sudden, so us
so that they've had some wins, but a lot of
guys have really fallen off. I mean TJ. Nichols is
a guy that struck out a ton of guys all
a sudden. He can't throw strikes this year. Jacob Melton
looks like a platoon guy. He's dropped. I mean, just
a lot of reds reds. And yet that's not good
on my list. The guys that have dropped with no.
Speaker 2: I the other thing that's not good about that hole scenario,
it was a raise. You need to draft. That is
their source of Yeah, they're not going to go out
and sign the big free agents. They've got to make
their draft work or they have problems. Right.
Speaker 1: I think they picked second. M hm, So let's see
they Yeah, they picked second, the White Sox, Rays, Twins, Giants, Pirates.
Look for that Pirate pick at five, that's that could
be a really interesting pick. But yeah, the White Sox,
so somebody's going to get Rochilowski uh huh.
Speaker 2: And I don't think the White Sox will walk by them.
I think they'll take them.
Speaker 1: I think you have to. I don't know how, I
mean I get it. Our buddy Tim Webers thinks he's
ever ready. He could be, but I mean he's a
pretty pretty high floor. That's the other thing we always
talk about when you do rankings, you do it the
same thing.
Speaker 2: Is it is it?
Speaker 1: Is it ceiling over floor? Is it floor over ceiling?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, well, I think a lot
depends on where you're at as far as your dynasty, uh,
as far as your dynasty players rostered. Okay, if you've
got an ample number okay of safe high high floor pix,
well you can afford, and you've got depth, you can
afford to speck a little bit, okay, and take those chances.
If you're looking at uh a minor league roster that
is stocked with high risk, high reward tize, well maybe
you should get a couple safe floors and balanced it. Oh.
I think a lot depends on the individual circumstances behind
the teams. At least that's how I would think it
should it should roll.
Speaker 1: So if we go back to the two thousand and
twenty four draft, which when it was a Travis Bozana
went number one and Connor Griffin went number nine. It's
probably gonna and that Nick Kurtz went for that draft.
It's probably going to work out that Connor Griffin is
going to be the best player in that draft. But
he went nine, but the guys in front of him
were all college kids. Bizana, Chase Burns has been great,
Charlie Condon, I still think there's Nick Kurr taken. Smith
has been a disaster. Jack kaglin Owen's been okay, JJ Weatherhill,
Christian Moore has been a disaster. But the Angels pick
disaster players, so you get the and then Connor Griffin,
so you know, it's it's interesting all those college kids
and then they got the first prep guy and he
blows up. Should the Cleveland Guardians have taken counter Griffin.
Of course they should have, but they decided to go
a little safer. They went with the higher fourth PA
was on and so did everybody else. But the guy
who blew up as a high school kid. It could
have very much gone the other way. Countor Griffin, pick
another name, could have could have you know, kind of disappointed.
Speaker 2: Brian Taylor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it could
have it could have ended up in that hitting in
that direct.
Speaker 1: Well, just in that same draft sixteen with PJ Orlando
with the Miami Marlins. Again, Marlins are terrible at drafting guys.
He's not a major leader, he's a high school kid.
He's not gonna make it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And then you flip then you flip back
to Mike Piazza being picked at a thousand or whatever
it was, the odd the odd bulls and you look
at Mike Trout. Yeah, where where did he go twenty five,
twenty six when we're in there.
Speaker 1: Twenty one, twenty three, something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in the twenties. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But it's it is it is. It is risk reward,
it's it's you're going to go to the high upside guy.
And look, I think if you play it safe and
and the the Angels have, I mean it's a perfect example.
They play it safe every year they get Nolan Shannywells
and and Christian Moore's of the world and as Zach
Nido's been probably the only guy that's worked out, even
though he's had a tough season you know now that
Mozealak is a temporary guy running. That'll be interesting to
see how they do this draft because they need to
get and and they're they're actually systems a little bit
better this year, believe it or not. They they need
to bring in some talent. It would be good for
them to get a high school kid at the draft
that's that has a chance to you can really build
around kind of an Eli Willis of the world, a
guy that really tooled off, very very athletic, and see
what they can do as opposed to go in the
Christian more round I mean, which is you know, th guys,
he's it's not going to be anything. We knew that
when he gets drafted.
Speaker 2: At number nine. Moving along, we have a guy who
hasn't played yet this year. I know that you're still
obviously very high on Apparently I was reading somewhere I
think about Trey Turner, Turner moving to the outfield or
something that would definitely help Aiden Miller, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't looked at the metrics on Turner. Maybe
his defense is starting to fall a little bit. Remember
when Trey Turner came up, he came up as an
outfielder center fielder forgot who was playing shortstop for the
Phillies when he when he made that move. But anyway, look,
ad Miller, it sounds a little concerning, right because this
is a guy that he hurt us back. He went
in for some kind I was reading some kind of
new procedure, which is not something you ever want to hear.
Speaker 2: Right now. That's not a good sign new procedures.
Speaker 1: No, okay, yeah, So but it's a lower blumbard issue,
you which you know, I've had back surgery on my
my lower back. It's it's not good. But I don't
know how we can discount him too much until you know, obviously,
if he doesn't play the whole season, I've got to
drop him at the you know, going in next year
a little bit. But I mean he's still got. He
still was great, particularly in the second half last year.
So I would assume he's still going to be good.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I I'm going to call our tenth pick.
We're going to discus We're going to say ten A
and ten B. H Okay, because we're talking a right
handed pitcher and a left handed pitcher, both out of
the Mariners system. One who I think is a gimme
that we see in the second half in Kate Anderson.
But you have him behind Ryan Sloan or are they?
Are they ten A and ten B. What are your
thoughts on on Sloan versus Anderson.
Speaker 1: I think Slun's the higher upside guy. I mean, he
just throws harder. It's big your stuff. Keate Anderson does
ninety three miles an hour. I mean it's a it's
not avelossit guy. He's got really good secondary pitches, good location,
is a really really good picture. But I mean Sloan
is the is the home run, that's the guy that
you think can lead, you know, lead your rotation. I
don't think Kate Anderson is. I think he slots in
as a number two three guy, low risk, very very
low risk guy. I mean Sloan still doesn't always throw strike,
so there's some growth still that has to has to
occur there. But it's big stuff. He's a lefties that
I know. He's alrighty right, So there's a lot to
like with Sloan.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. Do you agree that we'll see Kate
Anderson in the second half?
Speaker 1: Tim and I were talking before about should we have
a little column talking about when these guys arrive. I
would have thought Kate Anderson would have already been up.
I think it's going to take an injury or as
we've been talking about the Mariners moving some of their
major league starting pitcher pitching for some hitting. If you
tell me by when's the trade deadline? The third of August.
It's kind of a weird date this year.
Speaker 2: It's a weird date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you tell me the day after and they
still have their six starters answers, No, he's not going
to make it. If they trade one of them, or
they trade two of them. I think the answer is absolutely,
he'll be Then he is the next guy up.
Speaker 2: Okay, and if he's not.
Speaker 1: If he's not, it should be an investigation.
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, we'll start. We'll start right ranking their
prospects with the Rockies. Write something along.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean it's it's yeah, exactly, we should.
We will talk about the Rockies for a minute. So
that's good Segmentiny, Let's let's take a break and come back.
We're already at fifteen minutes. I hope you got a
few more minutes.
Speaker 2: I've gotten nothing but time. All I've gotten planned for
the four years and now.
Speaker 1: I just have a handyman coming in at some point
to put in a shower rod. So so guess guests
coming in in another week or so, And it would
be nice if there was a if there was a
shower curtain for the exposed to the element.
Speaker 2: So, uh, yes, well you can sit down, you know, hey,
make up some popcorn, get a couple of drinks out
and watch cycle exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: By the way, watching a TV show called The Beast
in Me with Matthew Reese, who's wonderful actor and clear Danes.
It's on Netflix. Wow, what a great show, kind of
in that it's in that psycho kind of world where
so the Beast in Me is kind of says it all.
So Matthew rees plays a bad dude. So it's very
very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with a title like that, I thought it might
have been a documentary on that Norwegian.
Speaker 1: Player, which what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Oh, the Norwegian uh soccer player.
Speaker 1: I don't know what did you do.
Speaker 2: Oh he's just a big he's just a beast. Yeah,
I don't know that that kid that's ruling the the airwaves.
He's one of the best in the world and apparently
nice kid too.
Speaker 1: I've been I've been ranking players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Norwegian Beast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, France won yesterday and that's I I
don't want them to win the whole thing because they're
the team that always like flops all the time, and
they look like they're but they look like they're really
hurt and then they pop up and start running again.
It's long held, yeah, that they fake those to get
themselves rest time, and they always bug me. Anyway, wait, digress,
turn it back over to you.
Speaker 2: Well, well, what do you think There's a couple of
players that I'd like you to discuss and then maybe
turn it over to you and let you go through
some of your favorites a little bit further down the list,
like if you know, is there really any point in
discussing discussing Joshua Bias? You know what I mean? It's yeah,
it's but a guy that caught my attention in a
big way is a picture with the Boston Red Sox
uh ianson I I. I know very very little of
this kid, and he's now up in your top twenty
five at twenty five. What's happening with Anthony I? Is
that fine to go through it? And that Are you
okay with that bof around? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was a kid that you know,
had potential entering the season and just I think he
started let me bring up his let me bring up
his uh hold on for second tim come back on? Okay.
Started off in high A, really just ridiculous and high
A zero point four to four e RA doing big
stuff obviously from the right side, got up the double
as it's been a little bit more mortal, but still
pitching to one seventy eight era A just looks like
he's it's a power arm, pretty good control if he
can stay healthy. You know, the Red Sox are treating
him with kit gloves here. They're not letting him go
over much over eighty pitches and so he's only doing
about five to six innings. I don't think he's gotten
over six innings this season yet, but strikeout. It's it's
good stuff and a guy that that kind of blew
up this season when he came in with basically better stuff. Okay,
anything else you want to know, anything else you want
to know?
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, he's at double A and he's young, right.
Speaker 1: And if I can just comment on Josh Bias a
little bit. Yeah, he's definitely sold out for power. I mean,
he's just swinging from the fences. He's got a huge
appercut swing, so I hope it works for him. But
he's going to strike out a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I hey, hey, if you solover power,
something's got to be effected, and it's going to be
that hit to him. That's right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: So he's we'll see I mean, yeah, I know he's
been on your list. He's I think we'll see him
in the second half. But I mean he has sold
out for power. Everyone just just be aware, Okay.
Speaker 2: At number forty eight, keleb Bonnamer of the White Sox
just a huge move up this year. I don't know
what level, but if he's at double A, is there
any chance we see him this year?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's in high A
first of all, unless he he got moved up since
I last looked. Look, so there are archetypes that we
all know about. Speed guys, the Chandler Simpsons of the World,
Savior Edwards, and this guy. In my little listening here,
we've got Enrique Bradfield kind of the same guy that
you hope maybe they developed some power. Edwards has developed
a little bit of parentner. Where the speed has gone
this season, we're seeing with Chandler Simpson. Last I looked,
it's eighty four on our exit velocity, and I know
people in the Discord site that don't like me talk
about that. That's not hitting the ball very hard. So
there's zero power there. So you have to worry when
you when you got guys like that on your fantasy team, like,
where are you going to find the power? Why Chandler
Simpson went as early as he did, I'll never know,
but he did. He'll probably get correct at next season.
Then there's the archetype of the Kyle Schwarber's of the world.
You know, power guys three true come outcome guys walk
a lot, strike out a lot, hit the ball a
long way. Kyle Schwarber has been a unicorn drafted in
twenty fourteen debut. I think in fifteen or sixteen we
count on forty home runs. But if he doesn't hit
forty home runs and he gives you a two ten
two twenty batting average, it hurts. I mean, you can't
get twenty two home runs from Kyle Schwarber with a
two ten batting average unless you're an one base percentage
Lee Caleb Bonder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's still a problems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you still have to work around that. But if
Chandler Simpson steals sixty bases, he's interesting. If he steals
thirty bases, he's not.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: If Schwarber hits twenty home runs, he's not interesting anymore. Right,
there's too much hair on it to be worth a
rostering a guy like that. Well, Caleb Bonanimer, Eric Buttanti,
those kind of guys that have seventy eighty gray Wall
raw power are very comparable to Kyle Schwarber. Now the
new one is Murakami. What Murakami did in the first
two months of the season, we finally have the second Unicorn,
at least temporarily. We need to see what he does
over a long period of time. If he becomes the
next Kyle Schwarber, you're going to see guys like Bonhamer
and Buttanti, these guys that have three true outcome guys,
they're going to get a lot of runway Because I mean,
Mura Kami just was carrying that team much like Kyle
Schwarber carries the Phillies and teams are starting to realize, hey,
on base percentage, we're good with that, as long as
he's going to get on base, hit power, hit with power.
But fantasy standpoint, it becomes a little trickier because most
people still playing on in batting average leagues. Bomber's going
to have a low batting average. He's going to hit
thirty thirty five home runs maybe more, and he's he's
going to be a very good baseball player, but he's not,
and he's not gonna have a high batting average at all.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure everybody kind of understands
those kind of profiles when you're developing your fantasy team.
Major League Baseball teams have done the same thing. You
can't have. Well, the White Socks are trying to do it,
to have at each position a three true outcome player.
That's a power hitting team, and they're going for it.
They're doubling down, tripling down, just everybody put a power,
power bat at every position. I don't think that's going
to be the trend, but I do think there is
a world in which teams can throw out these guys
that are power, guys that are on base percentage guy
that is an ARC type that is starting to get
a lot of momentum. I call them three true outcome players.
But that's who it is, right and bottomber Guess what
place for the White Sox.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you put Montgomery and Muricami. Yeah yeah, but
they still have Antinaci leading off, who has a hit
to him? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They've protected the big bats by having somebody who can
get on base ahead of them, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, it'll be interesting to see if it works, right,
I mean, I don't know if you can have that
many strikeouts in a lineup going. It might work in
the regular season, but if you get you know, to
the playoffs where you've got really good pictures in that
and you're just you know, striking out, you know, you're
getting fifteen sixteen strikeouts a game from a lineup, is
that gonna work?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I don't either. I haven't a clue.
Josh Adamski second basement with the Brewers, what's the scoop here?
Speaker 1: First, he's a Brewer, so you like him. High floor
guy can really really hit kind of marginal power and speed.
I think you'll have a little bit more power than
he will speed. But he's a guy that's moved up
a lot and a guy that probably had a little
too too low. But it's just he's another one base
percentage guy that can hit with you know, a little
bit of power.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds sounds good. Now let's look at the other
side of the coin Ethan Holiday.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, where do I have youth in Holiday?
Speaker 2: Do you have him at eighty nine? Yeah? Down fifty
nine slots from February?
Speaker 1: No, there he is, yep? Yeah, from thirty yep. Okay,
let's talk about that. So obviously brother brother of Jackson,
son of Matt. You love the lineage, you get some
extra extra points there, right, What the worry was when
he was coming through the draft, Big kid going to
be big strikeouts, going to be some power. That's kind
of of what his first season has shown, striking out
almost thirty percent of time. There is power, there's high
end eggs of velocity. But when you throw in the
Colorado Rockies into the mix, I'm sorry, Tim, I get it.
I know Matt Holliday played for them, and that's where
he made his name. Until they until they can develop
one or two guys. I'm just I'm skeptical. I think
you've got to discount those players.
Speaker 2: I just do.
Speaker 1: Charlie Condon looks like he's turned it around. But look,
if you've ever watched any TV show made in Albuquerque,
that's an ugly place where balls fly out right, So
and that's where that's where Charlie Condon is starting to
look like a major league baseball player. Is he gonna
be able to handle Sliderstone in the major leagues? I
don't know. I think there's big boy power. I don't
know if he's going to hit. Is that going to
be the same thing as Ethan Holliday. Maybe, But the
fact that he plays for the Rockies, you've got to
discount him. I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, enough, yeah, yeah, I have no arguments here whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I got history. If you disagree with me, and we
can point to player after I just saw a del
Amador get dropped in the Dynasty League. It just sads me.
You know, It's like he should be dropped, right, and
it's like, what the hell happened to adel Amador? I mean,
it's like, where's Zach vieing? Like where are all these
guys that had a chance to be something, and they
get to the upper levels of the minor leagues with
the Rockies and they just disappear.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, who is the lives back they developed that
had it was star potential to.
Speaker 1: Maybe. I mean, Goodman's been been very good, but I mean,
is he a complete player? I don't think so. It's
a power guy, but I mean it's it's just been disappointing.
And look when he got I talked about it and
Ethan Holiday got taken by the Rockies, and then I
tried to convince myself, Wow, you know he's going to
be really good. It's great hitting the environment, and then
it doesn't matter. They get taken by the Rockies and
it just you have to discount them until they prove otherwise.
Speaker 2: Totally agree. Okay, I'm going to turn it over to
you and let you go on a rampage some guys
that you like, say after one hundred, some guys that
are are interesting to the point where where they're worthy
of a discussion. Saw.
Speaker 1: I saw Caden Hunter pitch, left handed pitcher with the
Baltimore Orioles. I really goosed him up. I thought he
was really impressive. Left hander was up the ninety eight
miles an hour. Hasn't shown great control this year, but
when I saw him, he was throwing strikes and somewhat unhittable.
Really like that Rowdy Rodriguez with the Angels. The Angels
have a surprisingly good farm system, and Rowdy Rodriguez ore
a U d I outfielder with the Angels, athletic starting
to break out with some power hitting the a little bit.
I goosed him up from three sixty nine to one thirteen.
John Gill, shortstop with the Atlanta Braves, comes in at
one sixteen, up from three twenty six. Should have had
him higher entering the season. The Braves, all of a
sudden have guys that that can hit. I mean they've
always been focused on pitching, and all of a sudden,
now they've got uh some hitters. One of the guys
that we did not talk about was the guy that
has probably been the biggest breakout of the season as
Eric Hartman. Eric Cartman came in looking like Enrique Bradfield
slashed Chandler Simpson. He was a speed guy, came in,
balked up, got stronger, is now averaging you know, ninety
miles an hour on his eggs of velocity with some
leverage showing power created a little bit of power, you know,
strikeout power for strikeouts. But that's a guy that's kind
of blown up. So all of a sudden, you see
the Braves kind of morphine from all they've been focused
on is pitching. As the Ozzie Alsby's of the world
get a little long in the tooth, they're starting to
develop some of their positional guys, which is pretty interesting.
And I think John John Gill is a very interesting guy.
Speaker 2: Well, and you get the Braves are digging themselves as
a hole. What they created for themselves were losing all
the draft picks, right, I got a few years back.
But they've they've had to rebuild their farm system pretty much,
haven't they.
Speaker 1: Yep, Hagen Smith. I'm not sure what happened to Hagen Smith.
I probably would visit that. I see where he actually
went off. He should have gone down. So here's here's
a really really interesting player. Ohen Airs. I didn't think
ahead of them at two hundred entering the season, but
that's a guy who's twenty five twenty four catcher with
the Chicago Cubs that kind of came out of nowhere
and has been been fantastic, So he's definitely a late
bloomer in double A interesting guy maybe for the second half.
Owen Airs a y e R s Henry la Lane.
You probably remember me talking about.
Speaker 3: Henry la Lane six five six foot six lefty with
the Yankees. Looked like Big Can, looked like he was
starting to He really had a blowout season in the
Complex League. This is a perfect example of a guy
that looked like he had a chance to be a
future star. So I invested in him. A lot of
people invested in him. And then the last two years,
maybe three years.
Speaker 1: Awful, could hurt all the time, and I wrote him off.
I mean, it's just like he just wasn't putting it.
Comes in this season, Timmy looking like the same guy
was back in the Complex League, up back up the
ninety seven miles an hour, wicked a change up. He's
still in low way. I think the Yankees after the
All Star break here because now all leagues going to
an All Star break. There is no more All Star
game in the minor leagues there used to be, which
is always a lot of fun. They just have the
week off. I think you will see him up in
Hudson Valley and a guy that I've been telling our
Patreon member, is anybody that'll listen if he's sitting on
the waiver wire, you got to go get this guy.
He's throwing straight. Everything is clicking for Henry L. Lane.
Let me give it. I'll go a little bit deeper.
See Yeah, let's get down in the two hundreds. Zach
Earhart another outfield with the Dodgers. He's done nothing wrong.
He's been hitting, he's been showing power. He's just buried.
I mean, it's just he's just a burry guy that's
good on base percentage skills. He's got some power and speed,
maybe a fifteen to fifteen kind of guy. He might
get moved here at the deadline. If he does some
trip away, you can immediately see him up. So put
a little pin in that one for you. Camp Call
you no idea what happened to camp Call? I thought
he was going to be a lot better, but he
just has not put it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a question on actually that actually fits
into this part of the program, and I don't I
don't know if you can provide an answer. But Jerry
B from the Discord saye because I know we can
include all Dodgers prospects, but he I'm surprised Chase Harland
didn't make the list. Happy birthday, Chase. He turned twenty
today and he's put up a three hundred and four hundred,
five hundred plus season. Do you know much about Chase
Harlan and if so, what are your thoughts? I do.
Speaker 1: He's a really really young kid just turn Yeah, unless
you say, just turned twenty years old. No speed, can
hit with a little bit of power, So okay, I
just have not had a chance to dig into him
enough to want to rank him. So yeah, look for
him in the second half that I was a guy
that will probably get on the top five hundred. It's
a great call out by the guy on the Discord site.
Third round pick, so he's got the pedigree, but this
is a typical Dodger guy. That third round pick should
have probably gone higher.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I always got I was going to say, and
he would be the ninth oadfielder in that organization. Yeah,
you gotta draw the line somewhere, right, You got to
draw I.
Speaker 1: Mean, just can't. You can't dig into everybody, But you're right, Yeah,
I mean, it's definitely a good call. Good call out
by the person who brings his name up.
Speaker 2: So Jerry, Yeah, okay, thanks Jerry. I'll turn it back
to you now for some prospects further down the list.
Speaker 1: Uh Franklin prime era catcher with the Boston Red Sox.
A guy that's really blown up, really good on basis skill,
with a bit of power. Only in the Complex League,
but a guy that I like a lot.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: You start to get in the two or three hundreds,
you start to see guys that have fallen as well.
Who's that one? Jordan Yost, Detroit Tiger shortstop, a really
nice season. He's a guy that's moved up Ethan Sean Keys.
I've seen him in the major leagues. I moved him
up to two fifty four. Still don't know if he's
going to hit enough, but obviously huge power there and
starting to do something. Oh let's see that came interesting?
Chris Swarrow. I just saw a couple of weeks ago,
and was it hya or it was high? It was
a double A. I think it was double A. He's
another catcher that's got speed, so you would like this.
I think it was only a ten thousand dollars sign too,
So you kind of root for those guys. Interesting kid
that played well on Hya another really good season in
double A. Doesn't get a lot of love in deeper
dynasty leagues.
Speaker 2: But a guy there and where he's right on your life.
Speaker 1: He's what on he's down at number two ninety one.
Speaker 2: Okay, dang get and let's see.
Speaker 1: Let me give you one more guy. How about Eric
but Tanti That was a guy brought up today earlier.
Again huge huge power. He's gonna swing Amiss a lot.
And there's tons of walks there. So again Milwaukee Brewer,
first baseman, very anti, Milwaukee Brewer guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have time for one other question from
the discord site?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 2: Okay. Don wants to know. He's curious about the big
drop for Grissino. Is it just the injury or are
there other drivers? And he says mostly flat per Fromelo
and he's having a better year with more pop and
he thoughts there there's a couple of questions from Don.
Speaker 1: Prisina was simply because he hasn't played. I mean, he
could pop back up, and he dropped. I guess he
dropped twenty seven, so that's that's fair. But I mean
he just literally started playing a couple of weeks ago.
I mean I made the comment on Sebastian wall Cod
and a Miller why drop them? But I really goosed
up Risino up to twenty two and and maybe had
them a little too high going into the season. So
there's a little correction there. Okay, But I dropped him
just because he hasn't played. But I top fifty guy,
I mean it's still a top fifty guy. That's pretty good. Yeah,
and Formella for Mella's had a great season. That's probably
a good call. Why isn't he a little bit higher? Yeah?
He probably should be.
Speaker 2: Okay, super Thanks Thanks for your question, don greatly appreciated,
and back to you Rich for some further thoughts. If
you have me, I think I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted. Let's
just tell you absorb the number, sheer numbers and weight
of this project and.
Speaker 1: Let's let us let's take a final break, come back,
and I'll try to wrap this up.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Josh Hammond, Yes, short stop with the Kansas City Arroyos
twenty twenty type of upside the second round pick last year.
I didn't think a ton of them. I think I
had him ranked two fifty six. Well, I know I
had him ranked. I'm just looking at it. The guys
who stepped up and another guy that was I think
a second or first round pick was the was the
Mets Matt Mitch Woite. I think it's Mitch vo it T.
When I was doing my tour last week down in Maryland,
I got a chance to watch him in a couple
of games against the Orioles high A system. Really liked
that guy, really athletic, good speed, hitting at the top
of the lineup. The ball really exploded off his bat,
So I moved him up as well.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I'm just looking at the profile
sneak upside that that should have our attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then guys like Jonah Toong, I mean, he's
really really struggling. It's it's Ah And I don't I
don't want to say I told you so, because I
did rank him at twenty six, But I was really
concerned about Jonah Tong entering this season. He doesn't have
a breaking pitch, and look, if you don't have something,
you don't have a breaking pitch, you don't have a
ball that you can use against glove side batters. You
don't throw hard, I got problems.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and justifiably so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jonah Jonah Toong's a little guy that throws harder than
his body probably should allow him. He's got a great
change up, but he has no breaking pitch. I don't know.
It's a tough, tough, tough one for me. I dropped
him down to eighty four. He's still going down. Uh
Avy Arquette, that got him down from sixty five to
ninety two. Miami Marlins. We could talk with the Miami
Marlins almost in the same light as we do the
Colorado Rockies. At least the Marlins developed pitching. In fact,
they developed extremely well what's the last hitter that the
Marlins have developed? And that's just another situation that it's very,
very challenging. And I mean.
Speaker 4: Carlos Stanton and the guy with the Brewers now, oh
you know, you know I'm talking about Christian Yeah, yeah,
I mean that they were great when they're the Marlins,
and but that was two administrations ago, right, So there's
a whole new crew down there, and they're just so
terrible at developing guys one guy that I haven't given
up one as well.
Speaker 1: In Francesca. If you take a look at his stat line,
it's terrible. I still believed him.
Speaker 2: Hey, you're a man of conviction. Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: I still believe. I also still believe in Jefferson Quaro,
even though I dropped them a little bit, that I
can hit man. I yeah, I just I don't have
to tell you. So I guess to conclude. One of
the things that in just going through this exercise, and
I brought it up at the top of the podcast.
If if you're in Chicago and you hate the Milwaukee
Brewers because you you uh, you refuse to put them
on your on your fantasy squad because of the Milwaukee Brewers,
you're making a big mistake. You need to you need
to swallow it and move on from that. And the
same with the Dodgers. If you're a Padres fan and
hate the Dodgers because of Dodgers, you're making a big mistake.
I mean, they're They're What my analysis have shown is
there are a handful of teams that have They've got
some really really interesting players and really deep systems. And
the Pirates are right up there as well.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know you were saying earlier that what
those three teams, the three teams you mentioned have something
like fifteen percent.
Speaker 1: And sixty percent of the top five hundred, twenty five
percent of the fifty percent of the top five hundred
twenty five percent of the top one hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. If you're ignoring that because of your quotation
marks love for the game, yeah, you're missing opportunities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you just you need to swallow it or
find a different hobby because they're I mean, the Brewers
in particular are because I've met a lot of Brewers
bress and it's interesting because the Brewers are becoming the
farm system from the scouting and analytics rank for the
rest of Major League Baseball. That's the one thing that
no one talks about. But like you're you're out of
the you know, you're out of the game. And you
see guy with the Kancity Royal shirt on, I go,
I thought you worked for the Brewers. I got I
signed on with the with the Royals because they paid
me more money or filling the blank. And they're all
over the place because the Brewers have a way, particularly
in the international ranks, of looking at players a little
bit different. And I stress this because those are the players,
particularly in dynasty leagues. That's where you should be mining
from it. And if all of a sudden you've got
six or your twenty five minor league slots are taking
up with Brewers, that's okay, because yeah, and I have
just stopped worrying about playing time. I worry about playing time,
and they're in triple A I don't worry about playing
time and double A high, I just don't. I mean,
I'm looking for the player with the tools, the player
I think that are going to be able to develop,
to be able to hit. And I'm going to make
the assumption, maybe it's naive, but I'm going to make
the assumption that somehow good players will rise to the
top and get the opportunities, and for the most part
that happens.
Speaker 2: That's truism. Yeah. I for me, Hey, old habits die
hard and I'm looking. I'll always look for opportunities, especially
prior to call ups. That to me is important. But
that's just a game I play. That's not the real game.
That's our game, and it can be very very different
from the real one.
Speaker 1: Can it just gonna go to the to the Brewers
real quickly? Ricky Money Mony's m o n e Ys
ranked twot eighty, first time on the list. Just shoving
at this season. I mean, it's in the DSL. He
looks like the real guy Brady Abel whose brother's being drafted.
I think he actually might go higher than Brady Ebel did.
It was their second round pick last year. Looks fantastic.
He's at three or three new ones to the list.
Juan Martinez, another guy, another young kid, seventeen eight year
Oldkult doing the exact same thing. It just goes on
and on and on. I mean, it's just remarkable what
the Brewers are doing well.
Speaker 2: And you see the success of Churio okay, and you
see Jesus Miday barely outed diapers at double A. You
know who we will see probably next year. Okay. When
you look at the success that they've had, yeah, you
can't ignore or what by that. You have to look
at it.
Speaker 1: Let me talk about the Let me talk about the
best of the bunch, and that is Alexander Freeze fr
Ias eighteen year old kid that if you're looking for
the next Jesus my Day Jackson Cheerio following in that footsteps,
it is hitting. I've got him at sixty eight. I
think it's the first time he's been ranked. Just already
and started off in the Complex League, hit four forty
one and thirty two games. Moves to Hi a excuse
he moves to low A after thirteen games. Already got
a harm run, five stolen basis hitting two fifty, so
I mean he's flatten out a little bit. This is
a guy with all tooled up. Looks like he can
hit even in hot in low way a seventeen percent
strikeout rate, so wow. I mean, just go to the
if you're trying to you're new to the Dynasya League game,
don't know what to do. Just go the Brewers, the Dodgers,
and the Nationals and start digging through the You'll do
quite well just by grabbing some of those guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. Thanks so much for bringing it today,
Rich I I really appreciate it. I'm sure our listeners
appreciate it, and again I am. I'm just overwhelmed by
the sheer volume of work involved in this process. Typical
cap do you a great job.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it was. It was a lot of fun. I
appreciate our Patreon members being patient with me as my
daily notes were a little light this week as I
was finishing this stuff up, and I promise to get
it till on Wednesday. Wound up on Thursday about noon.
I got it out, but I just I wanted to
get it done right. And look, I appreciate everybody's feedback
so far. It is a it is a list, a
living list, so it's one that will constantly be updated.
But the next update will be shortly after the draft,
so I'm already going to come up with an update
with the players that were drafted slotted in, So look
forward to that.
Speaker 2: Yep, sounds sounds good. Do you want to close with
my waiver wire fixer?
Speaker 1: You want to pass on that one's give me a hitter.
Speaker 2: Give me a picture, Okay, I you're you're gonna like
this because the hitter that I am recommending for this
week major top one hundred list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was about to say if if he's
if he's older than eighteen, I probably don't. I don't
know what you're talking about, because that's all I've been
spending my time on is looking at children.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with your number eighty ranked prospect who
jumped up seventy three points in Hector Rodriguez.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love how Hector Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I God call me foolish, but he's making
my waiverware this week. And I think we see how
Hector Rodriguez shortly after the break. Okay, he's hitting for
a ton of power. There's an opportunity in Cincinnati. I
just think we're going to see Hector Rodriguez soon. Any
elaboration on.
Speaker 1: My Yeah, he's had a really good season. He's a
guy that has always been told up. He's never walked.
He swings at everything. This year's actually sporting. Last I
looked like a nine or ten percent walk rate, which
is actually bleak average. I don't know if it's just
a small sample size. He is still pretty aggressive at
the plate, and he's very very young, so you know,
but kids are coming up younger and younger. But that
would be my only two worries because that's all I
do is worry. I mean, otherwise they all but I
mean my worry is is he going to hit it up?
Hit it up? Because he's so aggressive and too he's awfully,
awfully young.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Okay, that's my hitter. My picture is a
blast from the past that has started the rehab process.
He's got one game under his belt. You're probably looking
at You're probably looking at I'll say second week of August.
But don't let Jackson Joe. Don't let him if you
got if you got room, find a spot for him.
Speaker 1: That's that's a good call for I had forgotten that
he's getting close to return effect. I think he's had
a couple of rehab starts, so good. How's he done?
You haven't checked.
Speaker 2: I think he's only got one start done. He allowed
and earned run. Uh when a knitting in a bit,
the velocity was very close to triple digits, if not
at triple digits, So you got to like that. Abe,
there's definitely concerns, but let's face the odds or high
they're going to move Scooble and the timing of Schooble
and Drove being ready seems to sort of fit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shame that Joe got hurt because it
would have been pretty phenomenal have both of those guys,
along with the much improved Casey Mice. I wonder if
he gets.
Speaker 2: Hey. I don't think you can rule anything out when
it comes to the Tigers, they could get their an
entire bullpen and the Mets. Those are those two teams. Yeah,
all's fair in love and baseball. They there could be
and should be a slew of players moved from those
two teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing I have been watching and like shock
is how well the Red Sox have played. I mean,
they're they're almost editing. There are only three games out
of the wild card spot.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and stories coming back that's not going to
hurt their cause. And Bennett is just pitching. It might good,
good point, but I can't get over how well Ben
it's pitching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's amazing that floor.
Speaker 2: I just tossed the dart there for the most part
in the hopes that you know, not so much the blood,
the extension and the control. And I picked him up
cheap everywhere. And I'm smiling on both sides of my
face about that pickup. That's it's a good coffee.
Speaker 1: I wrote about him because he got traded for a
prominent prospect and it looked like who did he get.
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 1: Yeah, might have been Yeah, so so prolyss has got
the obviously the high end velocity, and they basically move
because they thought he was a bullpen arm and prolesse
had Tommy John surgery or pre surgery. I get a
mixed up. He's back now, he's looking great, but it's
gonna be tough to catch Bennett at this juncture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just just good stuff. Every once in a while,
you just find one of those pictures out of nowhere,
and jumping in early does paid dividends.
Speaker 1: So job looks like he threw thirty two pitches, fastball
average ninety eight point eight, max at at one hundred
point two. He didn't throw enough secondaries to really get
a sense for anything, but I mean through hard.
Speaker 2: So nothing's wrong with the arm at least, no, no,
nothing of the elbows intact A good thing.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. That is a wrap to me.
Thanks for helping me with this when an hour and
a half. I appreciate you hanging in there with me,
because when I.
Speaker 2: Get to talking my pleisure, my pleasure, rich I could.
Speaker 1: Talk all day about this crap. I mean, I just
that's all I know. I mean, I just I just
go on and on about that's what I do, all
on on about these players. And it was it was
a great exercise, a fun exercise. And again, I I
know we pip out the patrons, but that's where Tim
and I are monetizing our work, and I just encourage
you to come out there. It's it's a good crew.
I think the content we put out there is great.
I go out to the Discord site a little bit.
TAM's always out there and it's it's fun. I think
TAM's got the fun aspect of of the role I got.
I got to pump out content, but that's that's the
way I got.
Speaker 2: I got. I've got to I've got the easy job
because I don't have too much trouble with fun rights.
That's sort of in my middle name. But no, it's
a great group, a very knowledgeable group, and it's nice
to see the level of participation. The only start comes
from me and it's directed directed to teams and players
and it's it's just a good, solid group of participants
that lay love the game and have a lot of
fun with it. So I'm really enjoying myself. And again,
like you, I encourage people to get to get to
that Patreon site, look at Rich's rankings, get the daily updates.
You know. He my email inbox always always has one
or two things each and every week. So rich we.
Speaker 1: Every day come on every day, I cramp out. Uh,
So I gotta, I gotta, I gotta pay some attention
to my fantasy teams. I'm gonna make sure first I've
got all my guys and pitching and and hitting that
I want so uh.
Speaker 2: But well, for everybody out there, uh uh, Wyatt has
been activated. Language Yeah, put him in.
Speaker 1: I got him in last night, so I'm pretty excited
he's going in. Yeah, Mike ye got him in my
three leagues that I have him in. So I've been
keeping up, I guess a little bit just to big stuff.
But I I I'm glad we didn't do a traditional show.
I have been doing a lot of prep time because
I literally, I mean I literally haven't looked at wrote
a wire, wrote a world in two weeks. Yeah, what's happening?
Speaker 2: I think? I think Jerry Jeremy Paine is supposed to
be back today. Martinez and Martinez in Cleveland an outside shot,
but definitely after the break. Uel Martinez, Yes, Angel Martinez
and Vinnie p Is on the rehab assignment.
Speaker 1: I saw his name up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of lots of big names returning off of injuries.
Just make sure that you get as many of them
active as early as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ny has been a huge disappointment, even with healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a big, what a bum to me with that.
Speaker 1: I will let you go. I will talk. We'll talk
okay on Sunday. Take care of everyone, do your be safe,
be well.
Speaker 2: Okay, be safe. You will