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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio appen I rag on the government all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And look at what I found in my

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<v Speaker 1>mail box. It's a check from the State of California. Hey, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I filled out one of those online things of the

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<v Speaker 1>state owes you money because of like bills or things

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't need.

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<v Speaker 2>To charge you for. Oh yai, how much to the

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<v Speaker 2>tune of one hundred and twelve dollars and thirty five cents.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so that's why we're running a deficit in the

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<v Speaker 3>state of California.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, well, I'm just saying I filled this out like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe two weeks ago, and the check was pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job, State of California. I never say that lost

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<v Speaker 1>property or whatever property fund it is. Yes, huh, how

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Maybe I'll go check that out and see

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<v Speaker 1>if I got any.

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<v Speaker 2>Use all your addresses, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I had my address.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, if you have, I've had a lot of addresses,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had like three or four addresses to put

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<v Speaker 1>in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they explain what it is? They explained what you Yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>and you didn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just silly stuff like you know, like a

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<v Speaker 1>credit card company or overdraft things like that that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>oh you oh that they kind of monitor I guess

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<v Speaker 1>when the state goes after the companies and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>judgment made, the state kind of keeps track of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say, so, you're gonna cut a little

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<v Speaker 3>check to Rob Bonta as a tip of any kind?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you going to?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's not the controller anymore. By the way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>m he's the ag Malia Cohen is who wrote this check.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, welcome to Wednesday. It's January twenty second. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>going on today. We'll talk a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 3>the January sixth pardons that came out because Republicans in

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<v Speaker 3>Congress are upset as to exactly how this thing played out.

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<v Speaker 3>And to be honest, there were some last minute decisions

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<v Speaker 3>that were made about that whole thing that took even

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<v Speaker 3>some of the members of the administration by surprise. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk about that we got to do. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to do something about AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a great AI story today, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what they should lead with in my opinion, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>how AI could be used in the medical world in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of diagnoses, in terms of AI being there when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk to your physician or your surgeon or whoever

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<v Speaker 1>is handling your care, and AI kind of takes notes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how. You know, you always want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>someone with you so that they remember the things because

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<v Speaker 1>you're still kind of in shock at your body.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening to you? What have you?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>So you want somebody else there. And this is just

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<v Speaker 1>another another net to catch all the information and being

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<v Speaker 1>a way for AI to soak in all that information

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<v Speaker 1>and then have a say in like what the roadmap

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<v Speaker 1>looks like in terms of care.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's one thing I want to see AI involved

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<v Speaker 3>in my taxes. Okay, I hate I just hate everything

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<v Speaker 3>about taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>I do too, and I did dreading it. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>dreading it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to make a freaking tax appointment because my

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<v Speaker 1>tax guy tries to like swindle an extra appointment and

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year and then I never do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that's the pointment where they want to make

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<v Speaker 1>the appointment to do the taxes. And I can't stand

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<v Speaker 1>my tax guy. But I keep going back to him.

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<v Speaker 4>My tax guy closed up shop.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I got to notice it had to be right

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<v Speaker 3>at the beginning of December. It was like, Hey, we're

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<v Speaker 3>closing December thirty first, so you're on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, so now what you haven't figured out yet? I

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<v Speaker 1>feel better yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I do, I do have some time, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not opposed to the idea of doing it myself.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just I was explaining this to my daughter

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<v Speaker 3>because she was asking me, like, what do I do

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<v Speaker 3>for taxes? And she's got she's got one employer, so

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<v Speaker 3>she can do turbo tax she can be Yeah, she'd

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<v Speaker 3>be fine with it. I have a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>involved with it, with donations and write offs and all

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of stuff. So it's it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more complicated than that. And I'm I just I'm terrified

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<v Speaker 3>at the idea that I do something wrong and put

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<v Speaker 3>my family at risk be that way. That's why I

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<v Speaker 3>say I want AI to do it. It should not

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<v Speaker 3>be I should not be fearful like that. Now, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what they do to you. They make you fearful, and

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<v Speaker 3>most people you're just fine. Most people screw up their taxes,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing ever comes of it. Right, They're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>come handcuff you and put you away. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that that's one of the scams.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, they say, the IRS is calling and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to put you away unless you wire us

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<v Speaker 1>gift cards for crying out loud. Yeah, so we'll tackle that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be getting rain here this weekend. What does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean already? Emergency declarations for the burn areas will

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<v Speaker 1>get into how much rain. I'm excited for parenting with

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<v Speaker 1>Justin to come back. We're going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>playing favorites between children. You know what happens. The hardest

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<v Speaker 1>age to parent your child may surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>You twenty five, twenty two, eight twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because that's where you're at right now. Yeah, trust me, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>It is different than the case for the teenage years.

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<v Speaker 1>Me. I think it depends on your kids, it does.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're probably right.

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<v Speaker 3>My wife always likes to say that she she had

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<v Speaker 3>our kids were so different. I mean they and they

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<v Speaker 3>continue to be very different. Our son was an absolute

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<v Speaker 3>joy between the ages of zero and eight, not that

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<v Speaker 3>he'd turned into a devil, but I mean he was happy,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was funny, and he was creative. And he

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<v Speaker 3>could keep himself busy. Our daughter was just so clinging

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<v Speaker 3>and wanted every She had fingers in her mouth the

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<v Speaker 3>whole time, and just was a mess physically, I mean healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>but like dirty, and she had bumps on her feet

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<v Speaker 3>that were weird. She looked like the third creature from

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<v Speaker 3>the from the substance.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it was a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>And then turns into this absolutely gorgeous and intelligent and hardworking,

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<v Speaker 3>self determined, self motivating.

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<v Speaker 2>Your son is all of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, but very different that's okay, but very different personalities.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of those things that you just said, you're

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<v Speaker 1>he's gorgeous. Okay, you made it weird, I use.

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<v Speaker 3>A different term. Can I go back and erase that

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<v Speaker 3>and say, but he's a handsome.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard working, he's intelligent, he's all of those things. You

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<v Speaker 1>did very well with both of them in different paths,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how kids go. Like I was a disaster

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<v Speaker 1>of fifteen. I mean I was a real hell raiser.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>And at twenty five I was fine self determined motivated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, So I mean I was always self determined

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<v Speaker 1>and motivated. I just also made really really bad decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, smoky, Chipotle, Tabasco. That's your thing, that is, if

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<v Speaker 3>you can find it. That is my absolute favorite hot

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<v Speaker 3>sauce to put on whatever I'm going to put hot

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<v Speaker 3>sauce on.

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<v Speaker 1>We are asking you for your favorite hot sauce. I

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<v Speaker 1>I'm partial. It depends on what I'm putting it on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my husband will put serrachia on everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine, but the consistency for me sometimes needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be a waterrier, you know, like if I'm gonna throw

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<v Speaker 1>it on eggs or something. Patio is kind of my

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<v Speaker 1>hot my my like happy medium. Okay, not too thick,

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<v Speaker 1>not too watery, but anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also top of TiO seems to be less vinegarya

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<v Speaker 3>than Tabasco.

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<v Speaker 4>Tabasco.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Tabasco. Tabasco is what I have in my purse.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you and Hillary Clinton? Yeah okay, but what is

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<v Speaker 3>your favorite hot sauce? Oh and here's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the crazy thing that you put hot sauce on

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<v Speaker 3>that no one else does?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I put a heart. I put it on hard boiled eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that weird?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, eggs, It's a very common. I would say. My

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<v Speaker 3>husband put it on fried rice.

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<v Speaker 2>The other night.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good, Sacha or Serrachia. Yeah, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>nice little that would be good. Yeah, trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>some hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Sauce anyway, what's your favorite hot sauce?

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<v Speaker 1>Let us know, use that top back feature on the

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<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>You just tap tap tap that little microphone bingo.

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<v Speaker 3>And apparently Donald Trump made the decision probably hours before

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<v Speaker 3>inauguration that he was going to just do a blanket

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<v Speaker 3>pardon for everybody involved with James quote it release them all,

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<v Speaker 3>efit release them all.

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<v Speaker 2>You are going to have.

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<v Speaker 1>To you refresh my recollection about who mister Beast is.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, he's YouTube guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Beast apparently was in the conversation to buy TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>He is not in the bidding.

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<v Speaker 1>Race just yet, but he has said on x that

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<v Speaker 1>he'd buy TikTok so it doesn't get banned.

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<v Speaker 2>What does mister Beast do on YouTube?

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<v Speaker 3>I will say I'm not the biggest mister Beast guy,

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<v Speaker 3>but among other things, he does contests where you could

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<v Speaker 3>win a million dollars if you can stick your tongue

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<v Speaker 3>on a flagpole for nine hours.

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<v Speaker 2>How does he bankroll this?

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<v Speaker 3>Just advertisement? Me started as a small guy in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of doing goofy stunts and stuff and then may turn

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<v Speaker 3>it into competitions.

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<v Speaker 2>Our faces are doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or it's just like Dutch.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean. The thing is, I think he's one of,

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<v Speaker 3>if not the most subscribed channels on all of YouTube,

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<v Speaker 3>which I mean ten years ago we would have said that,

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<v Speaker 3>and we would have said, oh, that's so cute.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got a hobby. But I mean, this guy makes

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<v Speaker 4>millions and millions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he's got a show I think on Amazon is

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<v Speaker 3>it Amazon, It's got on one of the streaming services

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<v Speaker 3>that's called The Beast Games where it's this competition this

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I almost if it was a Japanese game

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<v Speaker 3>show twelve years ago, you would go, oh, I get it,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what he's doing now.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's doing it for all kinds of money. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>National Weather Service has extended it's red flag warning for

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<v Speaker 3>La and Ventura Counties until tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 4>You're supposed to expire.

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<v Speaker 3>Last night, they said the winds are going to pick

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<v Speaker 3>up again this afternoon, so to be careful. They are

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<v Speaker 3>going to keep that red flag warning in place until

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<v Speaker 3>So President Trump's pardon of the January sixth defendants was

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<v Speaker 3>who had spoken to Axios. They said this move to

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<v Speaker 3>Fox News Sunday that January sixth convicts who assaulted police

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<v Speaker 3>probably should not get a pardon or clemency in any

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<v Speaker 3>He said, if you committed violence that day, obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's team was said to have wrestled with the issue,

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<v Speaker 1>That's according to an advisor familiar with those discussions.

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<v Speaker 3>clemency for anybody accused of or convicted of attacking police,

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<v Speaker 3>but said we're going to look at individual cases, which

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<v Speaker 3>clearly he didn't. One of the officers who was there

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<v Speaker 3>that day who has become sort of a media darling

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<v Speaker 3>is Michael Fanone. I don't think he's an officer anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was one of those guys who was attacked

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<v Speaker 3>by other people, and he obviously has said that he

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<v Speaker 3>felt betrayed by this decision and his description of just

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<v Speaker 3>a few of the people who were either accused of

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<v Speaker 5>They are Daniel Rodriguez, an individual who applied a taser

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<v Speaker 5>device to by neck while I was being restrained multiple times.

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<v Speaker 5>Daniel Rodriguez admitted his conduct, pled guilty, and was sentenced

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<v Speaker 5>now free. Ile Young pled guilty. Admitted that while I

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<v Speaker 5>was being restrained, assaulted and beaten, he attempted to remove

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<v Speaker 2>So this is what happened. Trump has attention span problem.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes one to know one Going through.

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<v Speaker 1>A case by case basis of these people on January

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<v Speaker 1>sixth is onerous at best. It requires a lot of briefings,

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<v Speaker 2>He does not. And that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>As they began to take this by a case by

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<v Speaker 2>That's when Trump said, effet part of I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with this.

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<v Speaker 3>There's gonna be a problem with this outside of just

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<v Speaker 3>the people the Faternal Order of Police and m gonna

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<v Speaker 3>would you possibly say your pro cop, your pro police,

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<v Speaker 3>you're pro blue? And then you do this, You allow

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<v Speaker 3>so many of these people who were now not all

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<v Speaker 3>of them were convicted of assaulting police officers, but there

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<v Speaker 3>were enough, and they're easy enough to find that you

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<v Speaker 1>He needed somebody, a point person to come in and

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, these are the people. Just slap the

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<v Speaker 1>after cops. These are the people we're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>There's two piles, the people who were trespassing or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>that the charges were, and the ones who were assaulting cops.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a problem with this, though.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got sixteen hundred ish people who were either pardoned

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<v Speaker 3>And if any one of these people does anything wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>an example of the kind of person, whether they deserve

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<v Speaker 3>it or not, the kind of person that that Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump likes. This is a mistake on his part to

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<v Speaker 3>have done this because he also puts his own vice

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<v Speaker 3>an individual basis. Pam Bondy the New ag Incoming Age.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that Trump already had his mind made up.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not change his mind that when jd Vance

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<v Speaker 1>The bottom line is, according to a Trump transition source,

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<v Speaker 1>never get ahead of the boss because you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just never know.

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<v Speaker 4>And listen.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea that Joe Biden pardoned his family members or

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<v Speaker 3>This is an absolute both of those examples of abuse

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of fire danger, obviously, but too much rain

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Donald Trump announced a joint project yesterday when it

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Stargate.

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<v Speaker 1>Stargate would invest up to fifty excuse me, five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure to support AI development. Now, the money is often

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<v Speaker 1>something you just gloss over, but in this case, it's substantial.

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<v Speaker 1>Five hundred billion dollars. Open Ai, Oracle and soft Bank

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<v Speaker 1>that on good authority. And Trump was quite optimistic yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Musk was the one.

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<v Speaker 3>He is saying, obviously as a head of Department of

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<v Speaker 3>Government and Efficiency of Government efficiency, that this might be

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of fact, if you remember, a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>weeks ago, the soft Bank CEO Masa Yoshi so was

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<v Speaker 3>standing with Donald Trump and they made the original, one

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<v Speaker 3>of these original announcements, and he said that he was

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<v Speaker 3>going to offer one hundred billion, and Donald Trump goes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred. And the guy was like, well, listen, hold on,

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<v Speaker 3>let's see how uh, let's see how things go. This

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<v Speaker 3>this newer AI technology requires a massive amount of electricity.

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<v Speaker 4>Keep massive.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind, this is Trump's mo o. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the Apprentice and yes, haha, reality show.

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<v Speaker 1>But you learn a lot about President Trump from watching

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<v Speaker 1>of the things he uses and he always has is competition. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk looks like his golden tech boy right now.

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<v Speaker 1>sort of so to speak. But now Trump is throwing

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<v Speaker 1>in these other AI company. Now, Elon Musk just raised

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that comes under this umbrella of

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<v Speaker 3>One of the most exciting things they said they're working

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<v Speaker 3>a cancer vaccine. He said, you could do early cancer

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<v Speaker 3>we've all lived through that before and seeing that get

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<v Speaker 3>Now there is some pushback to all of this because,

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<v Speaker 3>simplest of things for themselves. Ingrain learned helplessness all to

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<v Speaker 3>not make us better. It is a regurgitation of the past.

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<v Speaker 3>Internet and the intellectual properties that are at least nine

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<v Speaker 3>months old. It doesn't talk about refocusing for whatever the

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<v Speaker 3>future is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>It can take that information and kind of suss out

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<v Speaker 3>what is the most important.

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<v Speaker 4>But it doesn't do anything for the future.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is some pushback to as great as AI

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<v Speaker 3>may be, it's not the thing that's going to save

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<v Speaker 3>humanity and may actually have a negative effect on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard about the play of mittens, or shall

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<v Speaker 1>I say the flight of mittens? The flight of mittens,

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<v Speaker 1>the flight and the flight of Untain's mittens is a

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<v Speaker 1>coon cat from Maine.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a big cat is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll show me hands.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll show you a picture. Somebody just sent me a

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<v Speaker 3>picture yesterday of Why.

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<v Speaker 2>Would someone send you a picture of a coon cat?

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<v Speaker 3>We were sharing pictures of pets. It's not really you

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<v Speaker 3>need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what you do on your downtime.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at that. Look how big that is?

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<v Speaker 2>That is a big cat. Who's the dude one of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys from camp.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys are showing pet pictures. Now, he's an oncologist. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why that makes a difference, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>got a big cat.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mittens is this coon cat from Maine that accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>flew three times between New Zealand and Australia this month.

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<v Speaker 1>Her cage, Mitton's cage, was mistakenly left in the plane's

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<v Speaker 1>cargo hold.

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<v Speaker 4>Cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Mittens was booked on a one way trip from New

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<v Speaker 1>Zealand with her owner to their new home in Melbourne Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently Margo waited hours for her cat before learning

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<v Speaker 1>the plane had returned to New Zealand with Mittens still

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<v Speaker 1>on board. They're finally reunited. The airline has apologized. Margo

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<v Speaker 1>says Mittens has been extra cuddly since her travels.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're probably a front hypothermia.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're talking about artificial intelligence in the in the

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<v Speaker 3>health industry, and this new stargate initiative that President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be pouring money into AI in art

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<v Speaker 3>is very different, and there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>who have argued it should have no place in art.

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<v Speaker 3>It should be notified you, you should be told if

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<v Speaker 3>AI is used to create art in any way. And

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<v Speaker 3>the movie The Brutalist Adrian Brody is getting a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of Oscar buzz. The movie itself is getting a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of Oscar buzz as well, but it comes out now

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<v Speaker 3>that in an interview with the tech magazine Red Shark,

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<v Speaker 3>and the editor said AI tools have been deployed in

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<v Speaker 3>order to improve parts of the movie, specifically the Hungarian

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<v Speaker 3>dialogue of Adrian Brody and Felicity Jones, the two actress

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<v Speaker 3>actors involved in the lead roles.

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<v Speaker 1>The editor is a native Hungarian speaker and says, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that that is one of the most difficult languages

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<v Speaker 1>to learn to pronounce.

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<v Speaker 2>It's extremely unique.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted it perfect so that not even locals would

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<v Speaker 1>spawn any difference.

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<v Speaker 3>So what they did was Adrian Brody and Felicity Jones

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<v Speaker 3>would record their voices into AI software, and this guy,

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<v Speaker 3>this native Hungarian speaker, would feed his voice to try

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<v Speaker 3>to finesse some of the trickier parts of the dialogue.

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<v Speaker 3>And they said, most of their Hungarian dialogue has a

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<v Speaker 3>part of me talking in there. So they would take

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<v Speaker 3>the Hungarian guy's voice and sort of map the audio

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<v Speaker 3>of either Adrian's voice or Felicity's voice so that they

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<v Speaker 3>would hit the exact pronunciations. And he said, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really just a little bit. It's mainly replacing just

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<v Speaker 3>a few letters here and there to nail the pronunciations.

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<v Speaker 1>He also revealed that AI was used in the final

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<v Speaker 1>sequence of The Brutalist to create a series of architectural

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<v Speaker 1>drawings and finished buildings in the style of the main

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<v Speaker 1>character Laslow Toth. All of this with people up in

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<v Speaker 1>arms about it is silly to me, because isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>what Hollywood has always been smoking mirrors?

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<v Speaker 2>CGI pretend it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny that this is where some people have drawn the

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<v Speaker 3>line I would die on this hill. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>CGI is one of those I don't remember there being

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people suggesting, well, you fooled me because

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that that was not CGI. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 3>most recent example, it's not a great one, is the

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<v Speaker 3>bus scene in Deadpool versus Wolverine or Deadpool and Wolverine.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot lot of CGI that went into

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<v Speaker 3>that and it made people angry. But there's no way

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be able to choreograph a fight scene with hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of people at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, you know, the monster and the substance also

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<v Speaker 1>not real if we're gonna be calling.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was practical. I mean, that was actually somebody

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<v Speaker 3>built that model. And yeah, fascinating. I love how people's

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<v Speaker 3>minds were. Paul Schrader, by the way, most recognizable as

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<v Speaker 3>the screenwriter between Behind Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, The Last

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<v Speaker 3>Temptation of Christ, The Canyons, this new movie that came out.

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<v Speaker 4>It turns out.

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<v Speaker 3>He says that the AI generated movies and screenplays are

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<v Speaker 3>better than a lot of the things that that humans

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<v Speaker 3>are able to.

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<v Speaker 2>Come right, and that's what scares people. That's what scares people.

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<v Speaker 2>Jen has weighed in.

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<v Speaker 1>She says Trader Joe's hop an arrow hot Sauce is

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<v Speaker 1>the best. She says, also a trick of the trade

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<v Speaker 1>is to check out the sodium content. Legit hot sauce

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be under one hundred milligrams sodium. Any sauce

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<v Speaker 1>that is above a hundred milligrams is white people hot sauce.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi guys, this is Lann.

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<v Speaker 1>My son likes Dill pickle hot sauce, and there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>one called I think Dill pickle crack.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, pretty weird, but that's what he likes.

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<v Speaker 2>I like anything labeled top brass.

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<v Speaker 3>And bitchen sauce on his pizza.

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<v Speaker 5>Just crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 3>You might want to get your son some counseling, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Why dill pickle that sounds good. I love a Dill

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<v Speaker 3>pickle hot sauce. Sure, I mean I understand the vinegar content, right,

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<v Speaker 3>That's part of what makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Like pickles on everything. M all right, coming in.

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