WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:08.519 This is an unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me 2 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:15.960 covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book two, Carl's Doomsday Scenario chapters 3 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:23.679 twenty through twenty two. In these chapters, Carl shares his 4 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:28.600 seri with Doughnut that maybe they were set up. The 5 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:31.320 person that we thought was the villain isn't the villain. 6 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:38.399 There's all kinds of twists happening, and there's only one 7 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:43.759 episode left until we start the next book. There is 8 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:48.079 so much left to wrap up. I guess we're not 9 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:53.439 wrapping a lot of it up. Probably. Welcome to spoil Me. 10 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.560 Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you 11 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:18.439 very much to Michael for commissioning this episode. I asked 12 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:21.280 Michael how he was doing, and he's replied in the chat, 13 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.799 my favorite sports team got a player, so my life 14 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:30.400 is immeasurably better, even though I know it doesn't actually matter. Ultimately, Michael, 15 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:38.200 nothing actually matters, which means everything actually matters if you 16 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:43.159 think about it. So whatever makes you happy, embrace it fully. 17 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:48.480 I endorse it, whether or not it actually mtters. Who 18 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:52.959 gets to decide that we do? We get to decide, 19 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:58.280 That's what I say. So all right, you guys, I'm 20 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:02.879 really really enjoying this book, in particular the first book. 21 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:08.080 I really, you guys know, I enjoyed that book a lot, 22 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:12.639 but he had to spend plenty of time. And this 23 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:16.840 is no criticism. This is just what happens in first books, 24 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:21.520 setting up the scenario, establishing the ground rules, getting it 25 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:26.280 all in place so that he could begin his actual storytelling. 26 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:30.599 And that's not to say there wasn't storytelling in there also, 27 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:34.879 but you get what I'm saying. I am really enjoying 28 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:40.439 now like the conventions have been accepted by the audience 29 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:44.000 and we are moving into a stage where everything doesn't 30 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:48.319 need an explanation anymore, and so he is freer to 31 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:53.560 play with other aspects of the plot of the dialogue, 32 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.199 you know. And I'm just really looking forward to the 33 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.159 next book when I'm assuming this is going to be 34 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:05.560 a continuing trend. Obviously, as we hit new floors, there 35 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:08.319 will be explanations and stuff needed for each of those, 36 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:13.719 but it's it feels different when we are already in 37 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:18.599 the game. Ooh. Rob says, for what it's worth, this 38 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:20.919 is my least favorite, which isn't to say it's a 39 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:23.960 bad book, but it's uphill from here. In my opinion, 40 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:29.319 that's rousing endorsement in my opinion, Like, if you if 41 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:31.680 this is your least favorite, I'm so sorry, guys, I 42 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:35.840 kicked my camera stand, but I really like this one. 43 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.599 So if you feel that way, that's like very encouraging. 44 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:50.120 So we pick up right after the announcement of Manassa 45 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:54.960 being killed and Ripper Wanton played a video of Manassa 46 00:03:55.039 --> 00:04:01.560 singing and it's this like haunting sound and her voice 47 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:07.360 is just like very memorable, obviously, and it gives him chills. 48 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:13.520 Later on, Dona is very much like she had the 49 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:16.800 voice of an angel. This is a huge tragedy. She's 50 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.839 reacting to Manassa's death in much the same way everybody 51 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:25.800 else aside from the other Crawlers, really seemed to be 52 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:29.160 because she doesn't have a bigger picture frame of reference 53 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.240 yet due to her still having kind of a childlike 54 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:40.560 point of view on stuff. Oh my god, Michael says, 55 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.120 just a nitpick. I always thought it should be all 56 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:47.600 downhill from here. Going downhill is much easier and pleasurable 57 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:52.399 than trudging uphill. Michael, do you know what I would 58 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:57.199 have agreed with you, except I've been hiking a little lately, 59 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.480 and I don't know if it's just getting older, but 60 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:03.639 I'm fine. And going downhill a lot harder than going uphill. 61 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:07.199 I it's a different set of muscles. And let me 62 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:11.600 tell you that shit is very, very difficult and requires 63 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:16.639 like a type of balance. And yeah, so I see 64 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.839 what you're saying. I definitely do, but I'm not sure 65 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:30.959 I entirely agree, donut She like. The two of them 66 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.000 are talking about things as they are waiting for Zev 67 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:37.839 and she asks Sinji, you really believe what you said 68 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:40.920 about people rising up? And he says, it's a nice fantasy, 69 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:45.600 but I know things don't really work that way. And 70 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:48.959 he says, for all we know that King guys, people 71 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:52.079 are really happy. Just because they complain doesn't mean they 72 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.319 have it bad. And I'm a nobody. It's not like 73 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:57.120 I have the power to change anything. I wasn't expecting 74 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:00.680 that though. Jesus, it's so funny to me that he 75 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.199 is saying, I'm just one person. I don't have the 76 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:09.600 power to change anything. After this woman was killed. Like, granted, 77 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:15.560 he does not believe what he said here actually made 78 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.000 a difference. He believes that they were already going to 79 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:21.560 be zapped and that it turns out his little speech 80 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:27.959 fed into their narrative perfectly. So I understand why he 81 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:33.240 really doesn't think that he can change anything. But I 82 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:37.560 you've got some influence, my friend. You are an influencer, 83 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.839 and I think you are so so wrong about that. 84 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:48.920 I understand profoundly. Don't get me wrong, the feeling of 85 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:53.959 I am just one tiny grain of sand in this massive, 86 00:06:54.199 --> 00:07:03.480 unending machine of relentless oppression. How the fuck? But how 87 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:09.000 many grains of sand or sugar does it take to 88 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:14.560 fuck up somebody's gas tank? Like? How much would it take? 89 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:22.759 Just asking questions? So, yeah, he says, the Stalwart dude 90 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.160 was too prepared. They had the camera all ready, with 91 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.560 the army right outside the window. Stalwart was planning on 92 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:30.839 killing us from the start. I don't think they were 93 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:33.600 expecting my little speech, but it played right into their hands. 94 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:37.399 He was being played too. We were just the pawns, 95 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:41.480 the bait, and so was Manassa. Whoever is orchestrating this 96 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.879 knew the Orcs planned on killing us. That switcheroob was 97 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:48.040 either on purpose to get them to really kill their ally, 98 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:52.759 or they quickly jumped on the opportunity. It humiliates them 99 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:58.680 and damages their alliance with the Valta, and that Barrent 100 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:03.639 benefits from this. If Valta loses a powerful ally, maybe 101 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:06.439 even goes to war with the Skull Empire over this, 102 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:09.040 then they won't have time to try to take over 103 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:11.959 the Boring system. But I don't know for sure. We 104 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:16.839 have so little information now. I'm going to be very 105 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:25.040 very real with you guys, Borrent versus Valta. I have 106 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:31.600 barely clocked any information about either of these groups at all. 107 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:34.559 I know they've been talked about, and I know that 108 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:38.080 this information has been given to us, but it is 109 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:41.879 not what's stuck in my brain. And so him putting 110 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.159 these pieces together, I am very happy for you, Carl 111 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:46.960 that you are able to keep track of this and 112 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:49.879 make some sense out of it. But I'm gonna be honest, 113 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.559 this didn't register for me one tiny little bit, because 114 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.960 none of this is what I'm ultimately the most concerned 115 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:03.759 about in the immediate moment. As a reader, I recognize 116 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:05.919 that this is all big picture shit, and I should 117 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:07.720 be thinking this way if I want to try and 118 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.159 figure anything out. But I just want you guys as 119 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:16.360 listeners to understand where I'm coming from in my coverage 120 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:22.840 because I don't have the memory to comment on his 121 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:26.679 theory here. I don't have my own independent theory. I'm 122 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:30.480 just fully accepting what Carl says because Carl is no dummy, 123 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:35.960 and I am willing to take it on faith that 124 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:41.440 what he is saying is likely correct. Michael says, I 125 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:43.480 like that Karl is self aware enough to know that 126 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.279 rousing speeches from a random crawler isn't going to enact 127 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:49.559 societal change. He's just another tiny weight added to a 128 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:53.799 much larger situation. He doesn't actually comprehend. Yeah, I think 129 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:57.480 that's really it. And that's the thing is like saying 130 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:00.960 like I'm just one person, What difference can I make? Well, 131 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.879 it's like anything one isn't what makes the difference. It's 132 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:08.399 a bunch of people deciding that they're going to do 133 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:11.600 a thing that makes a difference, and that can be 134 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:14.720 very slow and over time. This is part of I'm 135 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:18.559 covering the most recent Hunger Games book with Rashaan Sunrise 136 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:24.000 on the Reaping and mild spoilers for this book, but 137 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:30.679 it is a story about Hamage's games and how the 138 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.960 way that his games were filmed and depicted that we 139 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:37.840 saw in the original trilogy of books is not actually 140 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:43.919 how the games really went, and that there are going 141 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:49.200 to have to be multiple tries to topple certain systems 142 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:52.600 and you're not always going to succeed on the first 143 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:56.840 or the fiftieth try. That doesn't mean it's not worth 144 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:00.840 pushing and continuing to fight, but it does mean that 145 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.159 you have to accept that sometimes you are going to 146 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.639 make sacrifices and then you will not get to live 147 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:11.200 to see the actual change and the result the fruit 148 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.080 of your sacrifice. And I have a very hard time 149 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:18.960 with that personally, just like that concept sacrificing and then 150 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:22.000 not actually getting to see. Like, guys, when I say 151 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.559 that I have an issue with needing immediate gratification, you 152 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:29.360 don't even understand how difficult it is for me to 153 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:34.279 keep long term ideas and consequences in mind when something 154 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:37.080 immediately in front of me seems like it would be 155 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:42.600 fun or good. So the idea that I am ultimately 156 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:46.120 sacrificing for something that I it's not just like, oh, 157 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.919 way off in the future, potentially you will be dead 158 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:54.519 and you will never see it. I really don't like 159 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:59.960 that one at all, actually, But okay, so go back 160 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:07.639 of this, zev is explaining that they are the scheduling 161 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:09.840 for who is in which trailer is public, so this 162 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:11.799 is not something that they would have needed, like an 163 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:16.600 insider to get the information on. Mordecai, as it turns out, 164 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.759 had said that he should raz the king's sum, but 165 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:23.840 then it's like, you should be subtle, That's what I 166 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:28.799 remember saying. The good news is nobody is saying anything 167 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:32.159 negative about Carl and Donut on the net. Prince Stalwart 168 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.679 is the villain. Rust is going to have to disown 169 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:37.200 him too. I hadn't thought of that. That only leaves 170 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:41.480 the sister as the heir, which I can't help but 171 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:44.879 assume as soon as she mentions that that maybe it's 172 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:48.519 the sister behind all of this, but I don't know. Also, 173 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:51.960 I just really want to imagine that what's going on 174 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.720 with the Skull Empire is like succession right now, and 175 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.120 that she's the Shiv, which isn't a good thing for 176 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.679 the record, because Shiv is also kind of monstrous, but 177 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:08.679 in her own very special way. So Mordecai says new rule, 178 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:12.399 we are not meddling with mentioning or talking about any 179 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:15.240 other entities outside of the dungeon from now on, We're 180 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.240 not going to mention King Rust or Prince Stalwart until 181 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:21.039 after the sixth floor. If you two idiots make it 182 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:24.080 that far. When Odette asks you about it, you are 183 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:27.320 to say you have no opinion. You only talk about 184 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:32.879 stuff happening in the dungeon. And Donut says talking smack 185 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:36.879 is my special talent. Manassa and Princessdinadia both said so 186 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:43.919 I love that. So Mordecai says, look, I know it's 187 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.039 not your fault, but he is going to blame you. 188 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.879 And I wanted to make sure the Skull Clan targeted 189 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:52.039 the Blood Sultan it once you hit the ninth floor. 190 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.080 But I don't think that's going to be an issue anymore. 191 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.759 Let's just hope he's not too mad at you. So 192 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:05.799 then we cut from there to Donut and Carl having 193 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:10.960 to find the two hundred and first group, which is 194 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:14.639 not It's like they're out on the street prosblytizing to people, 195 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.120 so it is not difficult to find the whole way 196 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:22.919 that this this is so weird. Oh I'm sorry, Michael 197 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.240 is in the chat. Michael oh Rob says, oh, yes, 198 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:30.039 I do. Regarding immediate gratification adhd Crew. Michael says that's 199 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.080 part of what made the sacrifice of a guy jumping 200 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:34.480 on a grenade so touching to me. I think it 201 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:36.879 would be a lot easier to sacrifice yourself if you 202 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:38.879 know for a fact it would make a difference doing 203 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:40.960 it when you will have no idea if it had 204 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:44.759 any effect at all. That's tough. That's exactly it. Michael 205 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:48.840 is like, you have to be somebody who is willing 206 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:53.919 to do the right thing, the like the right thing. 207 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.120 It can feel like, how do you is the right 208 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:06.799 thing the thing to do when it doesn't have any 209 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:10.679 like you know what I'm saying, is the right thing 210 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:17.120 always obvious? Because I think sometimes that it is, And 211 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:19.759 then I'll step back and be like, I don't know, 212 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:22.840 but that's the look. I don't want to get all 213 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:28.279 caught up in this but doing it just because you 214 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:33.879 don't want to be if you are, like I'm thinking 215 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:38.679 about this like grenade issue, where I suppose if you 216 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:41.000 don't throw yourself onto it, it explodes, It's possibly you're just 217 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:44.960 going to die anyway, right because you're near enough to it, 218 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:49.759 So you decide I'll take the hit and hope that 219 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:55.639 everybody else doesn't take any hit because you're kind of 220 00:15:55.720 --> 00:16:00.120 discounting yourself being able to survive in the end anyway, 221 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:07.320 which is a remarkable presence of mind. Yeah, I don't 222 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.799 know that it would even enter my head, you know, 223 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:20.559 to be real, So okay. He When they head out 224 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.600 from the safe room, they run into some more shambling 225 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:27.120 berserkers and they get some more xp dealing with them, 226 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:32.320 and this is when Karl starts to realize that the 227 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:37.320 dynam light he's using is so powerful it's not really 228 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.960 safe for him to use in close quarter combat or 229 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.360 in regular fights. He's like two stories away and it 230 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.840 knocks him off his feet. He calls them basically mini nukes, 231 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:53.360 and Dona is like, you need to be more careful, 232 00:16:54.559 --> 00:17:00.480 and also mentions that when she looks at the dynamite, 233 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:02.840 it tells her that there's a seventy five percent chance 234 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:07.440 it'll explode if she touches it. So his skill level 235 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:13.440 makes him uniquely qualified, and it's possible her talents make 236 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:19.200 her uniquely vulnerable also, and I live when she says, 237 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:21.240 maybe we should have tested them first, and he says, 238 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.720 that's what they're going to put on my tombstone. Don't 239 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:28.319 be silly, Karl. They don't give us tombstones here. I 240 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:34.359 did really like that moment. So they talk about what 241 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:38.000 potentially could be even higher on the list than Goblin dynamite. 242 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:43.480 And let's see, he thinks about the Divine Guardian and 243 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:46.680 that even though this shit is very, very powerful, even 244 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:48.359 if he dropped a bunch of it directly down the 245 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:51.119 thing's throat, he doesn't think it would make any difference whatsoever. 246 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.920 So they go talk to the l's here and it's 247 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:01.039 labeled corrupt temple. A quick note to Mordecai confirmed anything 248 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:04.720 labeled corruptment mobs could be within, which I remember this 249 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:10.480 from Skyrim as well. And there are three elves standing 250 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:13.839 outside in robes that look like they've been gardening, and 251 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:21.039 there is a residence right beside them, fifteen dwarven kids. 252 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:24.559 One of the older kids held a stick with a 253 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:27.799 small salamander tied to the end, and he was chasing 254 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:31.079 his brothers and sisters about as they all howled. I 255 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:33.400 think it was supposed to be a mockery of the elves. 256 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:37.440 The stick wielding kid jabbed the poor, hissing salamander toward 257 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:40.440 one of the robed figures the tiny lizard expelled a 258 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:43.519 single spark of flames at the city elf, who cursed 259 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:46.559 and kicked at the child. Another kid picked up a 260 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:49.079 rock and chucked it at the elf, who in turn 261 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:51.640 raised his hand and cast a spell that reflected the 262 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:54.920 rock back at him. The rock bounced off the kid's head, 263 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:58.599 who started wailing. His siblings surrounded him, and they all 264 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:04.079 piled inside the house next to the temple. And this 265 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:06.519 is so funny to me, the idea that like, later on, 266 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:09.960 their mom comes out and she's yelling at him for 267 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:12.319 throwing rocks at her kid, even though the kid threw 268 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:14.839 the rock at him first, and he just literally deflected it. 269 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:19.119 So not that I'm arguing, like complaining about her interrupting 270 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:22.799 this fucking dude, not a bit, But it was just 271 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:28.240 your kids were being little shits, actually, And you know 272 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:31.200 that said, I'm not mad at the kid throwing a 273 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:34.039 rock at these elves. It's very difficult for me to 274 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.599 give a shit. So if they're gonna be little shits 275 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:42.200 directing it towards these elves feels fine to me. Good 276 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:49.839 unleash them. So the kids all take off, with the 277 00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:52.000 one that got hit with the rock and the stick 278 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:54.640 with the salamander is just left on the street. The 279 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:58.359 poor lizard was trying to drag himself away. I was 280 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.000 going to untie the little guy, but Mango jumped forward 281 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:03.960 and swallowed the salamander hole while taking half the stick 282 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:08.640 with it. And this is the beginning of a terrible 283 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:14.240 fiend ship where Mango yacks up this salamander and the 284 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:19.000 stick later and then fucking eats it again. This salamander 285 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:22.839 goes through it too much. I hated this. I hated 286 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:28.079 it so much, And it was like, there's a weird 287 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:32.119 sort of twist later where the dwarf kid tries to 288 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:35.160 clean that actually the salamanders all get strapped to the 289 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:40.519 helmets of the dwarfs that are in the mines, and 290 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:45.319 so this salamander was in training and that he likes 291 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:50.920 it actually, which I have no real idea on, like 292 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.960 whether I should trust this kid's version of things or not. 293 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:58.359 You know, I genuinely do not know whether or not 294 00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:02.559 this is a real thing that the salamander is, like, yeah, 295 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:05.799 I love being put on a stick and waved other children. 296 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:12.359 No idea. So here's when we have this odd confrontation 297 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:18.119 between Dona and the city elves first one level sixteen 298 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:24.960 root Druid Temple recruitment wand bearer, and they are particularly 299 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:32.480 dangerous because they are such fanatics. The Master told us 300 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:36.119 that oak Fell and the oak Fell and their rotting 301 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:39.319 assistance would come to the city soon and the final 302 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:43.400 battle for Heaven would commence. When you agreed to help 303 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:46.759 that orc, we knew it was you. You even wear the 304 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:51.640 filthy symbol of your blasphemy, which is it turns out 305 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:57.640 later the anklet of the Fallen Oak. The oak Fell 306 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:01.559 is a Pito's version of the anti Christ. That's not 307 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:04.599 stuff one usually contends with until the twelfth floor. We 308 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:07.599 need to get you to a dispel protection spell, which 309 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:10.480 will handle the anti charm and other security protocols these 310 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:15.920 quest locations usually have. They're annoyingly common in Skyfowel settlements. 311 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:22.039 So neither and I don't know if it's just me 312 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:25.599 here guys being frustrated. I'm interested to hear how you felt. 313 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:34.640 Neither Doughnut nor Carl asks who the Master is. I 314 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:38.480 don't know why. I'm sure they're just assuming. These guys 315 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:41.559 aren't gonna tell us, and they're probably right. They're probably right, 316 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:46.000 but just ask, though I would just ask I would 317 00:22:46.039 --> 00:22:51.200 want to know, you know, like, and obviously the way 318 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:52.880 that this is set up, where the oak Fell and 319 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.920 their rotting assistants would come to the city soon, I 320 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:02.920 can't help but wonder if the body with the anklet 321 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.880 on it wasn't put in their way for them to 322 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:12.920 take the anklet Like how far back does this whole 323 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:20.279 plan go? Somebody is setting them up on purpose. I 324 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:23.279 had thought that it was fucking what's his name, but 325 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:27.759 him and his mom got killed. So either he's not 326 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:32.480 really dead and it was him he is dead and 327 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:35.359 he had nothing to do with any of this, or 328 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:40.000 it was him. He's dead and now his brother's going 329 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:43.519 to take over, Like those are the only options I 330 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:50.440 can think of. But there being like this prophecy about 331 00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:52.960 the oak Fell and then finding these bodies and the 332 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:58.200 anklet on one, I just it seems like convenient to me. 333 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:03.960 And I don't really know who else I could possibly 334 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:11.319 suspect that I've met, Like I am curious whether whoever 335 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.680 is responsible for all of this is somebody that we 336 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:18.440 haven't even actually encountered in the story yet. And if 337 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:21.039 it is somebody we haven't encountered, I don't really know 338 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:23.960 how I feel about that. A part of me feels 339 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.559 like that would make sense because this is such a 340 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:32.000 huge universe and they won't have met everybody, but they're 341 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:35.480 so famous that sure, I don't doubt that there are 342 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:38.759 people out here pulling strings. On the other hand, it 343 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:43.799 makes me less invested in the baddie because I'm wanting 344 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:50.000 to care about whoever our bad guy is, and if 345 00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:52.960 it's a stranger, it's just going to be less engaging 346 00:24:53.000 --> 00:25:00.759 in that way. And otherwise, I genuinely like only other 347 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:09.640 enemies that they've made are Frank and Maggie. So could 348 00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.799 Frank and Maggie have set this up? I don't know 349 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:17.119 that they could. Like the elves or not. The elves well, no, yeah, 350 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:19.519 these are o Elves. The other guys were dwarves. The 351 00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:23.319 Elves are talking about the Master as somebody that feels 352 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.680 very like established and in control, and I don't think 353 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:37.240 Crawlers could accomplish that. So I don't know. It's definitely 354 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:41.720 they're being set up, But I just don't know who 355 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:46.599 else could be, because like the other thing is, if 356 00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:54.200 I'm blaming the what are they the Skull Empire? If 357 00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:57.960 I were trying to blame them, they literally just like 358 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:01.839 shot at the true trailer the two of them were in. 359 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.880 They don't really feel like subtle operators, you know what 360 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:13.160 I'm saying. They're not afraid to just outright take them 361 00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:17.839 out in a very public, borderline breaking the rules like 362 00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:25.559 kind of way. This elaborate story just doesn't vibe with 363 00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:32.960 that approach. And the only like, I don't know who 364 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:36.880 all has influence on things? Who has that kind of power? 365 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:42.119 I keep thinking about like Odette, and I don't think 366 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:44.559 that she necessarily has any influence on the game. She 367 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:48.559 has her she has her influence as a host of 368 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.880 this show, but I don't think she has necessarily direct influence. 369 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:54.960 And who else like gives a shit about these two 370 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:59.319 at this point? I mean, I don't know. I'm gonna 371 00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:05.839 have to think this over a little bit further. So anyway, 372 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.160 one of them says we had to torture her to 373 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:13.759 tease your name from her lips, and Carl asks who. 374 00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:17.640 But I knew immediately, and he says she was serving 375 00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:21.400 an important purpose, removing the unworthy filth from the streets. 376 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:25.759 But then she started asking questions, questions. It turns out 377 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:29.559 that attracted the oak Fell, just as the Master predicted, 378 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.920 and this again, they are very distracted by the fact 379 00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:35.799 that these guys are talking about torturing gum gum, so 380 00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:38.119 they don't ask who the master is, but I really 381 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:46.319 want them to fucking ask. And there's a little preamble 382 00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:50.920 conversation here where eventually Doughnut turns to Carl and they 383 00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:53.640 start weirdly reacting. And this is when we find out 384 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:59.240 about the anklet being what is causing them to They're 385 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:05.039 flickering from white dots to red ones, so as soon 386 00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.720 as they catch a glimpse of it, their enemies. But 387 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.160 then when her fur covers it again, they go back 388 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.720 to just being neutral. And I kind of find that funny. 389 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:20.519 Donut lifted her back leg, revealing the small magical anklet 390 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.039 with the three little beads. She shook her foot and 391 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.599 the beads made a rattling noise. The elves growled and 392 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.599 hissed like a pack of wild animals. One of them, 393 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.319 the female light Healers, started scratching at her own face, 394 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:40.079 causing rivulets of blood to form. This is uh. It 395 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:44.480 feels like this is an enchanted item that is affecting them. 396 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:51.240 This is more to me than just simple fervor. I 397 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:55.680 think that something on this is affecting the elves, and 398 00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:00.519 the elves only I don't know, but it just the 399 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.839 reaction is so extreme, and like, look, they're literally extremists, 400 00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:09.720 so maybe it is just pure them, but I can't 401 00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:16.759