Speaker 1: Hey, everybody wants to challenge the podcast All about the
Challenge an episode where you were supposed to have five
co hosts.
Speaker 2: Our special Fantasy League winner Garrett was supposed to be here.
He has the family stuff come up. Couldn't make it.
Tim faking an Internet outage, not here, Zach faking that
his boss showed up at work. Not here. So you're
left with me and the other one sitting in Minnesota
now a single lady.
Speaker 3: Guys, you're not supposed to say that because Tim wasn't
supposed to find out point of holding it into the
in the pre show, Carlin Sanyo.
Speaker 2: You're acting like Tim's going to listen to this episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, headevery challenge pot dot com joined the Facebook group.
You can also draw our Patreon, which I just now
realized I'm gonna have to read stuff off.
Speaker 3: So it was very sweet of you for reading it
off for him last week because he had to do
all the notes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look what it got me?
Speaker 3: Yes, you doing it again this week. I just think
that Tim is mad at me, and Tim doesn't want
to be part of the show when I'm on the
show because he hasn't been here the last or I
wasn't here last week, and he wasn't there the week before,
and now he's not here this week. I just think
he's mad at me.
Speaker 2: I think Tim's just done with the show. Tim's quiet quitting.
Speaker 3: That's that's not fair. He can quit after this season.
We can all quit after the season.
Speaker 2: Wow, someone's come around. You've been like, no, I don't
want to.
Speaker 3: I like talking to you guys.
Speaker 2: We've got tattoos. We could never quit the show. And
now suddenly she's like, I don't know, we could all
just quit.
Speaker 3: Pretty sure, Zach said that, not me, Pretty sure, Zach.
And I like the show. I like doing the show.
I like talking to you guys, and it gives me
an outlet. Oh, which, by the way, So I had
the Luminary last weekend, Yes, which is the big Ice
Festival thing that I've been working towards for the last
month and a half. I'm here in Minneapolis and I
was standing in line with some friends of mine to
get beer this past weekend at the Luminary and one
of my girlfriends points behind me and says, look, and
I turn around. I'm looking around, like what are you
pointing at? And then realize, literally two feet in front
of my face, there is a dude standing there with
a Beanie on that says the challenge across the front
of it. So I was like cool, walked over to him,
was like, so this is gonna sound really ridiculous, but
I do a podcast about the challenge, and I would
like to have a picture taken with you because this
is it's hysterical to me that you are here with
this on. So there's for those of you who can see,
there's the challenge beanie. I looked very red.
Speaker 2: Because he totally knew our podcast.
Speaker 3: No, he had no idea what the podcast is, unfortunately,
but he and his wife a girlfriend or whoever it
was apparently are both big fans. So I told him
our Instagram account and told him about the show. And
hopefully they're listening this week to the random dude that
I saw at the Luminary this weekend. Hi, and I
hope you enjoy the show. Don't actually know what his
name is? Never actually got that?
Speaker 2: All right? Do you want to jump into this week's episode?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Fine, I guess that's okay. All right, we are
in All Stars by Rivals Episode three, Rifles in the
Rough it's my announcer voice. We're back doing this last
week on thing where the challengers are the ones who
narrate it. I dislike it as much as I disliked
it the first time. The second time they did.
Speaker 2: It, I got points on my Fantasy league because I
picked Steve this week and he was in the previously on,
so I got extra po.
Speaker 3: Does that count as the first it does? Huh? All right?
Speaker 2: Thanks?
Speaker 3: Maybe a strategy there. I wonder if Adam's gonna do
it next week. Then. I did appreciate though, that Steve
in doing this. He walks by the pool, steals the
coconut drink out of Devon's hand, and then pushes Devon
into the pool while Veronic is looking at him like
what the fuck? I mean? Obviously very stage, but I
still found that kind of funny. Yeah, we can skip
over all of the last week one, and then we
are in the house, lots of lots of people drinking,
chilling by the pool, working out basically all they all do.
We've got a whole bunch of different conversations happening. We've
got Sylvia and Shane talking about how Sylvia is talking
about how Kelly Ann is mean and she comes across rude,
and Shane's trying to kind of smooth things over with Sylvia,
like get her to calm down. Kelly Anne telling us
that she compares everybody to dogs. Yeah, this interesting.
Speaker 2: I what was that friend of the show?
Speaker 3: I never met her long and many moons ago, back
when you all had wives. Yes, she compares Sylvia to
a Doberman, with Kelly An talking to Frank about Sylvia,
saying that Sylvia doesn't want to grow, she doesn't want
to change, She's just mean and drinks and even yep,
and then we get Frank, which I know that you
don't care for Frank, but I really appreciated this confessional
because he, in this confessional said what he and everyone
else do, but no one else will actually admit to it.
He says he does not care about anyone in the
house except for him and Sam because they're on a team,
and he is willing to lie and manipulate at everyone
in that house so that he and Sam make it
to the final and win without any issues at all.
He has no qualms with manipulating everybody in that house.
And I appreciate his fourth rateness and that it made
me very happy to see because you know that everybody
else is doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of like his bitchiness though, he's he's
become much more of a like a bitchy, sassy gaye
than he used to be, and I kind of appreciate it.
Speaker 2: We'll see how long it lasts. Seems like he's going
to get a yelling match with somebody at some point
this season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true from what.
Speaker 2: We saw on the this season promo. Yep, thinks he's grown.
He hasn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems to have grown a little bit.
Speaker 2: No, he has it. He's terrible.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm sorry, Okay, he doesn't. Sam and Anissa talking,
they're you know, they're talking about their partners out there
and their partners, but they're talking about other people who
are out there working out and really putting an effort,
and how the two of them are not. And Aniesa's
trying to kind of tell Sam like it takes everybody,
and that TJ finally called her an athlete last season,
regardless of her her size or you know anything, which
I appreciate. Yeah, but I did see something and I
think it must have been I think it was the Challenge.
One of the challenge reddit threads, someone commented on, there,
you know why, why is talking about the challengers and
their their honestly, their sizes so taboo when this is
such a physical game and you need to be physically
fit in order to do a lot of the things
that they do. They got me thought, got me thinking, Yeah,
I still.
Speaker 2: Think it's surprising that Sam came in the condition that
she did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Anissa has come in the condition that she. Mean,
Anissa and Veronica have both their bodies are not the
same as they were when they first started doing these challenges,
you know, twenty plus years ago, but Anissa's been doing
it that way for years. Yeah, I was. I was
very surprised when Sam showed up just.
Speaker 2: Taking what was it, twelve sixteen years off whatever.
Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2: And then showing up knowing what the show.
Speaker 3: Is well, like, oh my god, and not only knowing
what the show is, but hopefully knowing how the show
has progressed in the last ten twelve years, like the
War of the World's challenged, Like we have people, very
very very fit people passing out in the finale, So
it just it. Yeah, it is kind of surprising to
see someone who doesn't seem to have worked on their
physical fitness in any way come into the show.
Speaker 2: It can't all be physical specimens, like.
Speaker 3: No, I mean but appreciate the choir there, but we're
also not trying to get on a show where you
need to be physically fit in order to do a
lot of these things. Like Frank is constantly talking in
his confessionals about how he's not going to win, Like
if they go into eliminations, they're not going to win
and it's because of Sam. Or if they go into
you know, in in challenges, there's a good chance they're
not going to win any challenges and it's usually going
to be because of Sam and her lack of physical fitness.
Speaker 2: Check this episode as an example.
Speaker 3: Yes, but yeah, uh oh and then and I have
a feeling that Tim may have actually liked this. But
back into the episode, Steve and Kelly Ann are talking
and talking in their room about, you know, the fact
that they went into the elimination lotstor of thing, and
in the background, literally all I could pay attention to
was the fact that you can hear the toilet flushing.
And then Steve and Steve because it was very much.
Speaker 2: Like put in post like an obbient sound. It was
something they put in during editing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but apparently Adam has he's he's spewing from both
ends and is very obviously sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that dude's sick. Sick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very very obviously sick. They're basically asking him, like,
you're still alive, dude, when he walks back into the room.
Speaker 2: Like later, jumping ahead a little bit, we see later
like him he had gotten up out of his bed
to go into the bathroom and you just see like
a sweat outline of somebody on his bed, and I'm
just like, holy shit, Yeah, that dude is sick.
Speaker 3: I'm surprised. I'm surprised with how sick that they let
him get all right too, Like I feel like that's
something that they would have typically told someone like sorry, dude,
you are too sick to continue. Not only are you
too sick to continue, but you might infect this entire
fucking house. Like you're very obviously contagious. You've got a
massive fever, you're sweating all over the place, Like, how
are you still allowed to be there? Because you're not
staying in a room by yourself, You're staying in a
room with like eight other people.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Steve brings up at some point like I can't
wait to be sick in three days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we are onto the challenge. How smack
Jamie s isn't everybody going to get this terrible illness? Yeah? Probably.
The first thing that I noticed when we went to
this challenge was Dario looks so incredibly fake Tan, like
so so fake tan. And I don't know if it's
fake Tan or if it's just he's like Jersey Shore overtanned,
but it was. It was distracting. So the game is
called Ballbuster. There were so many ball jokes by so
many people, mainly Adam, and none of them were funny,
especially when they came from Adam.
Speaker 2: Adam thought he was a comedian.
Speaker 3: He always thinks he's a comedian. Yes, yes he is,
Yes he is. So they have to jump into a
big giant ballpit and retrieve as many balls as they
can carry of their team's color. The balls are all
different sizes, and then they have to take those balls
through an obstacle course and it looks like the balls
have to stay with them at all times, so like
one of the obstacles is they have to go up
to the top of the cargo net and then back
down the other side, and all of the teams basically
sent one person to the top of the cargo net,
passed all of the balls up to them, had the
other team member go up and over and then pass
them all down, and then they have to put them
into a on the wood like a track that dumps
them in a box. But they have to do that
until they have ten balls in their box, and then
they have to do a puzzle and the first team
to do the puzzle and do the puzzle correctly is
the winner. Yes, so TJ reminds us that the star
holders are a Nanni and Turbo, Steve and Adam, Leroy
and Devin and Ashley and Dario.
Speaker 2: Which Ashley and Dario seems like the easiest team to
maybe get a star from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No one seems to be focusing on them in
any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks they're going to wait until towards the end
and swoop in and grab their star.
Speaker 3: Oh, but it's yeah, it's kind of a like, do
you try and get your star now and just try
to hold onto it the entire time, or do you
swoop in at the end. M I mean we didn't
kind of work both ways, like Jenny a few seasons
ago when she went up against the other Jenny and
had to do that like swinging pole thing to get
the star. Like she got her star in like the
second week, and then held it for the entire game
because no one wanted to go against against her because
they were scared. So yeah, I agree with you, though
it does seem like Ashley and Daro is the team
to to try and beat.
Speaker 2: But sleepy Dario, we saw him, You see him already,
just lounging on the couch. Was he one of the
people talking to a Nissa?
Speaker 3: I don't remember, No, I don't think he.
Speaker 2: Uh later it's him Leroy and someone else.
Speaker 3: Oh no it was him, Yeah, you're right, him Leroy
and yeah. Yeah. So in the in the challenge, we've
got some teams who try to go for as many
balls as they possibly can. We have very notably Dario
says in his confessional, Well, Ashley and I are just
going to grab one ball each and we're going to
try to run through this obstacle course so that we
can get as far ahead as possible and really like
demoralize the other teams, and sure then you never hear
from him again.
Speaker 2: Because he moralized.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, most of the other teams are doing like
two or three balls per person each time they run
through the course so that they can try and get
as many over as possible, so they only have to
do two, maybe three times through that course, which is
clearly a better choice, very much. So. We have Melissa
and Nicole yelling at each other, but neither of them
can Chuck can understand each other's accents when they're yelling.
They found that pretty entertaining. Anissa is freaking out because
she doesn't want to go in the cart because the
last time she was on a cargo net she dislocated
her shoulder. Her shoulder fair enough, Yeah, I can't really
blame her for that. Veronica has her confessional where she
kind of, like Frank, says the thing that we all
know but usually doesn't actually get set out loud. Veronica
says that she knows that she and Katie don't have
a shot in hell at winning this challenge. Yeah, I
think they don't have a shot in hell winning the
entire game, but you know, of course, But she's okay
with looking like a weaker team to basically try and
con the other teams into keeping them around for longer
so that they can Yeah, looking.
Speaker 2: Right, good strategy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, lots of all sac jokes from Adam and I'm
old jokes from Steve. Neither of these guys are funny.
Neither of them.
Speaker 2: Are poor Adam and Steve.
Speaker 3: Uh oh. Sam quits the challenge, but yet again, there's
no penalty.
Speaker 2: Nope, it doesn't matter why I continue doing it.
Speaker 3: It doesn't. I know that it's been said many many times.
It got said last week quite a bit. It's so
fucking stupid that people don't get penalized for not finishing.
Like last week, I got negative fucking forty three points
because a whole bunch of assholes decided that they didn't
want to finish the fucking challenge. I'm so mad about that.
I'm never gonna make it back up to the first place.
Speaker 2: A spoiler alert on the update, guess who's number six?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I am gonna be like Tim last seas
and trying to crawl my way up into the top five.
I'm doing so well first week. Stupid fucking team. Ultimately,
Devon and Leroy are the first ones to hit the
puzzle first. Leroy seems to actually contribute to the puzzle
a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says he's been working on his puzzle game
off season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Festi and Amber are the only other team to
get to the puzzle, but Devin and Leroy went pretty
handily at that. And then we go back to the
house and this is Yeah, this is where Adam, like
the full outline of Adam is on the bed.
Speaker 2: Gross.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is gross, Like why did they allow that
guy to stay in that house?
Speaker 2: Is this when Nicole and Steve are in the bathroom
with them?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Were they showering? What were they naked?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Nicole, I know, is the trained emt.
She was trying to help them because they are friends enough.
But I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was just weird. I don't understand why they allowed
that man to stay in that house being that obviously sick, right,
Like that can't that cannot have been like a hey,
do you want to leave type of situation. That should
have been a you are too sick to be in
this house. You're going to infect everybody in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're throwing up and doing other bodily functions uncontrollably.
It's probably a good idea.
Speaker 3: To and have a fever like that. Like, and it's
not it's not even just the cast that you are
potentially infecting, it's the entire crew at that TJ. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Irreplaceable is TJ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very strange to me. Maybe this is one
of those things that one of those things that we
heard all the rumors about towards the beginning of the
season or before the season came out. The reasons why,
like people were or no, maybe that was last season.
Speaker 2: It was last season.
Speaker 3: That was last season.
Speaker 2: Jordan was the big one who spoke last season.
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm confused the two I was gonna say Frank
and then realized that was the person. I don't know.
It's very strange. We get a seemingly very long overdue
conversation between Sylvia and Kelly Anne, where Sylvia had apologize
kind of apologizes for being mean to kelly An the
night before and screaming interface and they seem to actually
come to some sort of middle round. Yeah, make up
all the.
Speaker 2: Stuff that Beth and Johnny, well, Johnny faked last episode.
It seems like Sylvia and Kelly Ann.
Speaker 3: Are actually doing Yeah. They seem to actually be pretty
sincere in their apologies and their acceptances of it, which
good for them. I mean, it takes away the drama
of it, of course we all know and love, but whatever. Uh.
This is where we get many, many, many shots of
Anissa and her laying on the couch with Lee, Royan
and Devin with her laning on the couch with some
of the ladies. Curly frises in there, uh, basically saying
that her strategy for these games has always been as
a social player and to kind of make the friendship
some sort of thing.
Speaker 2: So she does are working out in the off season.
Speaker 3: Ye, which I mean now she seems to really be
doing that. But I question that before this season, you know,
and oh I brought I wrote Amanda, I didn't slip there, Ashley.
We shot of her in the gym with a few
other people just bitching up a storm, complaining about Anissa
and how she doesn't work out. She just sits on
the couch and drinks. Ye. So lots of back and
forth shots between the two of them. Then we're onto
the house vote. Adam Adams such a fucking moron for this.
He's such an idiot. He tries to play the pity
vote and gets sympathy by saying.
Speaker 2: He's like they have like two options. I remember they
were talking about this before, like should we go around
and try to make deals with people, like hey, you know,
you give us a break or whatever, like whatever, And
then they ultimately decide, Nah, let's just let's just do work.
Let's go in there and be like, has he been
wanna take pity on us?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: When they were originally having that conversation between the two
of them, I thought, but Nicole or someone was still
sitting in the room with them, so they were having that.
I thought they were having that conversation with someone else
in there trying to cut a deal at that point
in time, and then just kept showing just the two
of them. Oh, this is just a this is what
they're doing between. They have no idea, they don't know,
they don't know how to play this game. What is happening?
M god, there's their social game is so bad. I
don't know how they're gonna last in their game in
this game. If their social game is this time, they're
going to keep getting thrown in. Yeah, they're going to
keep getting thrown in unless they win. They are they
are so fucked. Yeah, Veronic is talking ahead since that
Adam is basically an idiot for doing this. This is
the challenge. Sickness is seen as weakness, and they are
going to throw you in. It's just the way it is.
It's the way it's always been, It's the way it
always will be. Don't understand why Adam or Steve thought
this was a good idea.
Speaker 2: And plus they were called last episode, so it just
makes it easy, so nobody else has to make anybody
else mad.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, it's you know, it's what happens basically
every season. You don't have to piss other people off.
And you know, it's almost a unanimous vote for Adam
and Steve. There are a few teams who vote for
other people, but like even the Coole votes for Adam
and Steve because she knows that there's no point in
throwing in another name. That's just going to piss somebody
else off. Oh yeah, Daria, I don't remember what Dario says. Oh,
Dario is also talking about Adam doing this and how
it was a stupid move, But my only response to
it was Dario is acting like he actually knows what's
going on in this case.
Speaker 2: We're lucky he's even a weak He's.
Speaker 3: Lucky he's even on that man. The only thing that
he's known for is being sleepy.
Speaker 2: Daro, what was his brother's name?
Speaker 3: Warrior?
Speaker 2: That's why. That's what I That's what I said to
myself in my head, But I knew that wasn't true.
Speaker 3: I don't remember. Maybe the chat room can help us out.
Speaker 2: All four of you, let us know who Dario's twin
brother was.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, Raffy, that's what it was. Jacqueline Jackman says
raf or something. Yeah, Raffi and Dario.
Speaker 2: I thought that was that was Riff raff on Chance
versus Stars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I still think it was Raffi. I know
somebody looking up. I'm still gonna call him Warrio. Jamie says, wow,
even once he said the name, it still doesn't ring
a bell, despite having watched that season multiple times.
Speaker 2: Where's Jamie says Warrior?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's now Warriors and he's lucky to have that name.
All right, So you get a shot of Devin and
Leroy actually going to Adam and Steve and saying that
they don't want to set the precedent that they are
going to vote in star holders against star holders, which
I think is a pretty smart move. So they asked
who they want to go against, and you know, Adam
throws it, Well, we already said someone's name. They want
to go against Frank and Sam because they think they
can beat him, which they probably could, but ultimately it's
definitely Roy's choice. Yeah, and then we're onto elimination because
these episodes are short and sweet. Yes, uh god, those
sounders are coming through real crisp and clear this week, doing.
Speaker 2: Them off the soundboard, so I can't even hear him, but.
Speaker 3: They're coming. They're coming through nice and nice and crisp
and nice and loud.
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's so I don't have to flip back
and forth to me in the chat and the in
program audio board.
Speaker 3: Well I like it better.
Speaker 2: This is set.
Speaker 3: Sorry, yes that I don't disagree with you on that,
So elimination. My first comment is that Steve's jokes are
lame and that he isn't actually funny. He tries to
make some joke with TJ and it just falls flat.
So yep, So Adam and Steve get called down because
they were the House vote and then TJ asks Devin
and Leroy who who they're choosing, and they say Kelly
An and Sylvia, and Sylvia looks pissed.
Speaker 2: This is where we do my favorite thing where they
cut to some conversation that happened earlier that it didn't
show flashback.
Speaker 3: Yep. So Frank has a talking head where he kind
of goes, huh, who would have believed that they were
gonna pick Kelly Inn and Sylvia? Huh me and points
at himself, and then it does the flashback that you know,
it's just Woolfie's favorite three ever. Flashback shows Frank and
Sam talking to Devin Leroy saying they it would probably
be a good time to throw Kelly Ann and Sylvia
in because they're a little disjointed and they have the
potential of being a pretty good team at least I
assume that's why they're what their reasoning was behind it,
and also that they are willing to work with Devin
and Leroy like form an alliance that's kind of secret
and help everybody get farther along.
Speaker 2: Jamie brings up, I don't get what Devin and LeRoy's
benefit is from Sam and Frank, because they're not gonna win.
Speaker 3: I do not. I when this was all happening, like
in Frank's talking head, he says that you know, it's
because it's two dudes, like two ego field dudes, and
he knows how to deal with ego, like he knows
how to manipulate eagle field dudes. I I really don't
understand the benefit for them from Frank and Sam. If
it were just Frank, then I could get it.
Speaker 2: But Jacqueline says, a good team to keep around for
yourself to go into elimination against Maybe, but you can
also go against Katie and Veronica.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Jacqueline, I don't. I'm right there with
you saying that. She said that. Okay, I thought I
was just missing it. But it was weird. Yeah, oh sorry, Jamie.
Speaker 2: Two j names, we're getting confused.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was just it was very true. I
don't I agree. I don't understand the benefit there. Maybe
there's something that we're all missing, but uh onto the game.
The game is called pile it on. Maybe. In this game,
Frank and Sam would have had a decent chance against
Maybe Maybe. But the game is basically there are two
giant spools of rope in the middle of the arena
that are gradually unspooling their rope. Each team has to
solve a puzzle as the spools are unwinding, and then
once they solve the puzzle, they have to go to
the unwound rope and pick it all up and hold
it above ground, basically hold it in their arms as
the spool continues to unschool until for five minutes, and
they cannot let any of the rope touch the ground
in those five minutes or their time will restart.
Speaker 2: For some reason, when TJ was given the rules, I
thought he said they have to hold it above their
head for five minutes.
Speaker 3: I yeah, And I was like, WHOA.
Speaker 2: Like that's gonna be rough. And then when it started,
I'm just like, nobody's holding above their head. And then yeah.
Speaker 3: I had rewind he says that they have to hold
it above ground, but the way that he said it, yeah,
I had the initial thought that they're going to have
to hold it above their heads as well. Like there
was that there was the challenge that Natalie and Johnny
did years ago where they had to hold their hands
above their they were holding something like a rope or
something like that, and their hands were above their heads
for like five hours. Granted there it wasn't a whole
bunch of weight that they were holding, but they still
had to be above their heads. So, oh, that doesn't
seem super out of the norm. Five minutes holding rope
above your head and then you see these massive piles
of rope that happened in just the like two or
three minutes. It maybe more than that it took to
solve these puzzles.
Speaker 2: I have prop with this elimination, but go through it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Sylvia's pissed that they're in the elimination and
really wants to stick it to Devin and Leroy. Steve
says that he does the puzzle that they that they're given.
He does it his on an app on his phone
all the time at home, so he thinks that he's
gonna get through it pretty quickly, and ultimately they do
finish the puzzle first, but Kelly and KellyAnn and Sylvia
finish it only like a minute some odd behind them.
So if Stephen Leroy or Stephen Adam were to drop
the rope, there's the potential of them actually winning this game.
But Stephen Lee, Roy Lee Roy, Steve and Adam pick
up their rope first, and here's.
Speaker 2: An easy way to remember it. Since it looks like
they're gonna be on the show for a little bit.
Uh as a horrible maga rednecks like to say, was
Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Jesus, it's what
goes through my head every time I hear their names.
Speaker 3: That's gonna go through my head now every time names
thanks Wolvie.
Speaker 2: Here to help. That's the very time Jae see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so really, Steve picks up all the rope, Adam
kind of helps him, and then Adam deals with all
of the rope that's being unwound as they're holding it
in the air, but ultimately it doesn't really matter Adam
and Steve when.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this, I don't know. I felt like this was
a dumb elimination, but yes it was. I feel like
I could I could make it better. They've done similar
stuff before where you have to find the hotel, they
have to find the right cogs to put on the
board so this stuff will turn. They've done they've done
challenges or eliminations like that before. I don't remember which
one of us. So they can have it where the
rope is continuously unspooling. And the deal is you have
to get all the cogs worked out, you have to
get the puzzle, and then you have to turn the
crank at the end. Whoever turns the crank at the
end and gets all of their rope wound back up, Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it's then you could like the turning
of the crank, like every time we've seen people turning
cranks because they could, they could turn it into something
where like it's a bunch of little cogs and then
the crank is like a huge thing. So trying to
turn that crank, we've seen it in other challenges where
it's very obviously super tiring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they.
Speaker 3: Could make the school go a little bit faster, so
there's a lot more rope to go. Yeah. I like this.
See I didn't put a whole lot of thought into it,
but I I would.
Speaker 2: Have been better.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you did.
Speaker 2: I literally just did. I just remember being like this
elimination was boring and dumb. Yeah, and they have the
gear the cog puzzle right there, like you could do it.
They've done somewhere. Yeah, the cogs that you have to
dig through a bunch of cogs and they're all different
sizes and whatever.
Speaker 3: See, yeah, I like that a lot more than what
they actually did, because what they actually did, yeah, was
very basic and boring show. And both of like, both
the one that they did and the one that you're proposing,
both of those could have been done by anybody.
Speaker 2: Yep, so big that not just placed for my hat.
Speaker 3: And then we get I I agree with Tim. I
like this thing where we go back to the house
and watch them pack and watch them say goodbye and
get a few extra minutes because it's not something we've
had in the last for a long time, twenty seasons, yeah.
Speaker 2: The old school seasons they.
Speaker 3: Used to do this, but yeah, it's more fun. It
gives a little bit more context to what's going on
in the house when we see them again next week.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so back in the house, you know, they Kelly,
Ane and Sylvia pack and leave and whatever.
Speaker 2: This is not a pattern, by the way, continue.
Speaker 3: What I'm about to talk about. Yes, Yeah, So everybody's
kind of in the kitchen. They're getting drinks, they're eating food,
they're hanging out and you know, Anissa's lighthearted, like they're
all joking around Anissa makes some lighthearted joke because Ashley
walks by her, makes some light hearted joke, like obviously
lighthearted joke about Ashley being country and she's the it.
I didn't think it was anything out of the ordinary.
And Ashley takes.
Speaker 2: It so wrong, right.
Speaker 3: She immediately starts talking about how she grew up with
a Jaguar and a three story house and lots of
money and this that and the other and I'm not
a redneck and Anissa immediately, to a Nissa's credit, Anissa immediately,
without like stopping to think, immediately says, I'm sorry. I
didn't realize that was a sore point. I didn't realize
that I wasn't allowed to joke about it. I'm sorry,
that was not my intention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like immediately she brings up that Ashley jokes like
that about herself all the time, so she thought it
was like the joke about it, we can, we can
joke back and forth about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it It just it becomes very apparent and
very obvious that Ashley does not like Anissa. Ashley does
not think that anything that Anissa has to say is
worth it, does not want Anissa saying anything about her
like she it is very obviously obvious that she does
not like a Nissa. Yeah, doesn't want her joking about her,
doesn't want to talking about it, anything like that. But yes,
Smashley is back in full force because I thought, I
mean Anissa not only not only immediately apologizes in the
moment with everybody around, but then they go into a
room it's just the two of them, and she apologizes
and tries to explain why she said what she did
and very sincerely multiple times apologizes for what she did.
And Ashley that entire time is like, I don't joke
about your personal shit. And then immediately we see her
go into another room and start talking about how a
niece is a pick me girl.
Speaker 2: That's not earlier in this episode, she's not out working out.
Speaker 3: Uh huh. I mean, I guess those aren't jokes.
Speaker 2: But whatever, it's typical Ashley stuff. She always explodes at
some point. It's just a matter of wait, it's going
to happen.
Speaker 3: I know that I have talked a lot about physical
appearances in this episode, but it's the challenge. But it's
what happens you're on TV. It's it's going to happen.
Ashley's face is so distracting, like her her now squared
off jaw. It literally looks like she has jowls. It
is so distracting. Nonny's teeth are also distracting, but Ashley's
like Ashley squared off jaw is so distracting when she talks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's obviously she's had a lot of work done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unfortunate because she was she was a very
good I mean she's still a good looking girl woman.
She was a very good looking woman beforehand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's unfortunate what people feel like they
have to do for themselves. She probably has a body
dysmorphia situation going on.
Speaker 3: And welcome to most of the women of between the
ages of Oh ever.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I remember her on the real world, and
I mean she looked cute then too. Her attitude was cute.
That's why that's where she got the name Smashley.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the end of the episode.
Speaker 2: My family is rich. I don't need to ah fuck
that apparently hasn't stopped.
Speaker 3: No good times, yeah, Jacqueline said in the in the
chat room. So if somehow Ashley and Anissa win, there
is a chance and there's a chance still the money.
Does Ashley use this as an excuse me take the money?
Ashally doesn't need an excuse for that. She'll use this
as an excuse, but she doesn't need an excuse for that. Actually,
we do it regardless.
Speaker 2: She'd be like, I felt like I had to carry
my whole team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, I mean, she could just go with the
super basic answer of we came in rivals, we're leaving rivals.
It's the point of this game.
Speaker 2: I mean whatever, Yeah, I try. I try to go
through life having a more more of a Karma bank account.
I guess.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess. I was just
very surprised and grantit. It's it's Ashley. She, like I said,
she very obviously does not like Anissa and doesn't want
anything to do with her and doesn't want to take
any time to mend that relationship in any shape or form.
But they the moment that Anissa like because she immediately
and sincerely apologized and then explained why she said what
she did and still continued to sincerely apologize like that
were any other person think for me, that would have
been immediately Huh. Yeah, I take that. We are good
I mean, I still don't like the joke, but we're
okay now.
Speaker 2: Just it's weird. People get upset about weird things, and
people get upset about oysters. Other people get upset about
you and called her redneck, so it is one of that. Yep, Hey,
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Thanks guys, Thanks everybody. Do you want to give us
an update on the fantasy leagues?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the I was just looking at the Tim
lost another player on his on his team, so on
the host league, Zachie Bananas is yet again.
Speaker 2: I don't know that dude cheats somehow.
Speaker 3: I mean he must because he's He's in the first
place with four hundred and forty nine points. Mister Brian
Wolford is it with three hundred and nineteen. I'm in
third place with three hundred and seventeen, and Big Uncle
Sweet Tea is in fourth place with two forty one.
Big Uncle Sweet Tea lost a player this week, and
so did who else lost the player? Let's find out
was it you or was it Zach? Do you have
Kelly An because nope, it must have been.
Speaker 2: Zach because I lost one last week, so yep.
Speaker 3: And Tim has Sylvia, so it must be Zach. And
then the in the public fantasy league for anyone who
I was. I'm very mad about last week because last
week I had negative forty three.
Speaker 2: Points to quit not wanting to do the challenge.
Speaker 3: I would have been better off just not picking a team.
I went from first to like twenty third. Oh my god,
negative forty three points, negative forty three are you kiddingled assholes?
So this week because technically I don't know if Sam
and Frank got marked down for quitting. I don't know
if that actually happened. But in first place is Kiki
One more Time with three hundred and thirty seven. Second
place is the Needy Greedy with two hundred and seventy nine,
and third place is Kitty Kitty Mail Mao with two
seventy five. Mister Brian Wolford is in sixth place with fifty.
Zachie's Angels is coming hot on his heels to forty
eight in eighth place. Uh, we have the challenge are
the hostly host team that we each pick one player for.
We are at twelfth place with two eleven. I'm in
seventeenth with two oh two, and Tim is in twenty
second with one three. So we're we're we're all slowly
climbing our way back out of that fucking hole that
last week was so annoyed, so annoyed. I I saw that,
I was, You've got to be gotta be shooting me. No,
Sam and Frank did not get marked down as DQ's
for this past week.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: Uh, Peter, if you're listening, I feel like they should
have because technically Sam said that she didn't want to
do it again, so just saying wow wow, which also
makes the means then Frank would not have would have
a negative score, and I think that would affect quite
a few people.
Speaker 2: But what other would have affected me?
Speaker 3: Well, then maybe somebody else would have negative forty three points.
Speaker 2: All right, what do you think of the season so far?
I've been seeing lots of people complaining about that this
season's not good.
Speaker 3: Well, first, Peter, I take back everything that I just said,
because I had Frank on my team this week said
don't give him negative points. I don't know. I I
don't mind this season, but it also kind of feels
like they're trying too hard to be a regular season
of the Challenge and not an All Star season. Sure
think it, I don't know. It just it doesn't quite
feel the same as previous All Stars, and it doesn't
feel like it's got the old school. It's kind a
bunch of newer players in it, like there aren't a
lot of old school people. Steve keeps making old person
jokes like he shouldn't be able to make that he
should be on it. He should be playing with a
bunch of people who are his age.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: What do you think of it?
Speaker 2: Well, number one, Dario is not an All Star.
Speaker 3: That is no, he's.
Speaker 2: Not, Jamie says, dude. I had a moment of it's
weird to see Steve on a flagship season. Oh wait,
this is All Stars.
Speaker 3: Agreed, So I feel about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh, it's fine. Like I think we've complained
about this in past All Star seasons where the eliminations
are not super challenging. Not saying that I could stand
there and hold a bunch of rope for five minutes,
but when we're used to like haul brawls and pull
wrestle and stuff, Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, these
are boring.
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: That's been the case the last two episodes.
Speaker 3: So when it's an elimination that I think that anyone
on this podcast would have a decent job or a
decent chance at completing and potentially winning, then it's not
the right thing for the challenge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean I feel like the actual challenge
was pretty challenging.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I did, actually, like I really enjoyed the challenge.
I thought that was a lot of fun. It was.
It was funny. Like at one point in time, big
T had a confessional because apparently if you grabbed too
many balls, the ball was dead if you were not
actually able to carry it through the obstacle course. And
she she has a confessional saying that she was greedy
or what can I say, I'm greedy because she grabbed
too many balls and then she couldn't carry them all.
Then her partner who she partnered, she's with Corey. It's
kind of like big T, what the fuck? Now, that's
a dead ball and it's small ball, so it's easy
to carry. What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, So I don't know, I'm not I don't
think I'm as hard on this season as a lot
of other people are. But eliminations have not been all
that great so far. So hopefully.
Speaker 3: I do appreciate that it's a one hour episode.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's the best part of.
Speaker 3: It, because even if it's not the greatest season ever,
it's only an hour.
Speaker 2: Me and you've been watching him on Amazon, so they're
only forty five minutes, which is even better.
Speaker 3: Yep. Well, and like I fast forward through the entire
last week on half the time I fast forward through
the if they're just sitting there talking about, you know,
why they're doing the challenge and their lives back, I
don't care about any of that shit.
Speaker 2: Oh you didn't see Leroy talking about what he was
going to do with the money that I did see
that we're going to use a part of that as
we exit out of this episode.
Speaker 3: I also do not disagree that all of his money
would be gone if he'd won in an earlier season.
So I do hope that he actually wins the season
because you know, it would be nice to see him one.
It would be nice to see him finally fucking win finally.
I do think he has a pretty decent chance, being
that he's paired with Devon, which I mean, if if
you had said that he had a decent chance, you know,
years ago, with Devon, Devn's just there for comic relief.
Devin's a champion, though he has a champion, and he's
actually I mean, he's kind of picked it up on
the on the physical side. He's always been good at
the political and the puzzle side. So Devin's a pretty good,
well rounded player.
Speaker 2: I wish Zach was here because because I could say
Devin beat Johnny Bananas in a final, and then Zach
would have to either agree the Devin did or say, well,
he didn't beat him because Johnny Bananas quit in that final.
He would be painted into a corner and he would
be glorious.
Speaker 3: To see it would be. I did appreciate last week,
you guys, having Zach played Devil's advocate for every every
singling that you saying, it's great, which we don't have
him this week for for social media corner. So I
did see that Carl Maria has kind of been losing
it on the maga thing recently.
Speaker 2: We lost another one.
Speaker 3: I know. I mean we've always I feel like we've
all kind of known that she's maga. I just.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I missed the days where I just didn't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah for anybody, yep, I agree.
Speaker 2: Social media has ruined the world.
Speaker 3: Yes it has. So yeah, without it, we wouldn't have
this podcast.
Speaker 2: Though also true, Carlin wouldn't have won a contest, and
right now morphed into a full time co host. That
morphed into just me and you sitting here instead of
any other actuals of the show. You know, times.
Speaker 3: Apparently work and internet issues come first.
Speaker 2: Quotes around both of those. All right, well, I guess
for this episode of Challenge this has been.
Speaker 3: Brian Carlin, San Diego
Speaker 2: And as Leroy said, strip club, gambling, drinking, strip club