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Speaker 3: Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifteen on Steve Rivera and today is My Guy
Speaker 3: on Monday, Troy Hutchison and my guy three days out
Speaker 3: of the week.
Speaker 2: Right, what's going on, guys?
Speaker 4: Not the much. How's your weekend?
Speaker 2: Exactly? Nothing much.
Speaker 5: Summer's not a lot, not a lot going. NBA Finals done?
Speaker 5: You know, you find out what I want to talk about.
Speaker 3: Man, Today was what basically only on fries with a
Speaker 3: Dodger guy here. Yeah, it was good, good, good. It
Speaker 3: was a pretty good NBA Finals. I thought seven games.
Speaker 3: Crazy game yesterday because of Halliburton.
Speaker 5: Yeah what once he lunched and he saw him go down,
Speaker 5: you knew I was over, You knew was done?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You mean the game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they did pretty well, got the U of A.
Speaker 3: Guys did really well, made a name for themselves. They
Speaker 3: never once mentioned where they were from.
Speaker 2: I don't think, no, not at all, I have even
Speaker 2: from Duke, as everybody says, oh that guy's from Duke
Speaker 2: no wonder you're playing hard.
Speaker 7: I feel like Richard Jefferson was giving him some favor
Speaker 7: in the broadcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that was. I will talk about that
Speaker 3: a little bit. Anything else the book Cultural Series that
Speaker 3: was when I got up. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: We have Jennifer in con at three seventeen and then
Speaker 3: Brian Peterson at four seventeen.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: One of the most.
Speaker 3: Difficult part of my life these days is finding guests
Speaker 3: because the summer. Yeah, I'm taking the rest of the
Speaker 3: summer off after today, No, next week I have. It's
Speaker 3: tough that finding people that you know topical and can
Speaker 3: talk about what's going on in the world today, because
Speaker 3: I don't really want to talk about other things. But
Speaker 3: but today, So Jennifer could three seventeen, Channel four obviously
Speaker 3: channel for I Give you Away. And then Brier Peterson
Speaker 3: Easy Desert for him. He was with the team out
Speaker 3: in Omaha soil and he knows Chip fairly well. So
Speaker 3: we'll talk about that. Not a surprise. It was the
Speaker 3: wind whether you know, did you read this, I didn't read.
Speaker 5: I didn't read the same I saw the email come through,
Speaker 5: But not a surprise. It was just when it was
Speaker 5: going to happen four years. You knew it was going
Speaker 5: to happen. Four or five year deal and a four
Speaker 5: year deal, and when.
Speaker 4: Is it? Is it?
Speaker 2: I forget, I forget what I'm talking to. Yeah, A
Speaker 2: good question.
Speaker 5: I mean you could you could work off of one
Speaker 5: year now. There's no reason to have a coach not
Speaker 5: on a link contract.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the recruiting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, m good question. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would assume it would be. I worked in baseball.
Speaker 5: Well, baseball is doing something a little bit more interesting
Speaker 5: these days, so they're going deeper into the lineup, deeper
Speaker 5: into the lineup, deeper or into the postseason. You know,
Speaker 5: that's what I came in, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what happens and then uh, your guy,
Speaker 3: uh Tommy Tommy Lloyd, Tommy boy is out and overseas with.
Speaker 5: Run yeah, you know to Coepete there and performing very well.
Speaker 5: Everybody was talking about that dunk, but dunks the dunk,
Speaker 5: but actually playing very right.
Speaker 3: Right though, though you're right, gut look at you, you
Speaker 3: must be fifty years old. Dunks of dunk on you
Speaker 3: would say it's only two points, just like every other shot.
Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to give him you a
Speaker 5: huge NBA contractor off a one dunk that was that.
Speaker 4: Was the case.
Speaker 2: That was the case.
Speaker 3: It would have been has On Adams would have had
Speaker 3: a lot of money in the NBA a lot of time.
Speaker 4: It would have been truly hot sauce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hot sauce. Right, So we'll talk about all that.
Speaker 3: So good for a chip though, four you're for four years,
Speaker 3: I think, new signed, new signature, new new contract.
Speaker 5: I wonder how contracts are going to change now moving
Speaker 5: forward with the transfer portal, with everything going on. Is
Speaker 5: that because you have to feel a little bit more
Speaker 5: uncomfortable giving out these four or five, six, seven year
Speaker 5: deals at some colleges like Judfish at Washington, knowing that
Speaker 5: a lot can change within a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question.
Speaker 3: And the money, yeah, because you know the buyouts and
Speaker 3: all that. I'm sure it's talking about we thought this
Speaker 3: when COVID hit. Remember when all this money either paying
Speaker 3: these coaches, you know, ten twenty million dollars four or
Speaker 3: five million, six million, ten million dollars a year and
Speaker 3: then COVID hits and then you're not coaching and buyouts
Speaker 3: are huge something stuff.
Speaker 2: Why would you do that?
Speaker 3: Why would you make it long term, and why would
Speaker 3: you pay them this much of money when you have
Speaker 3: to maybe you fire them at some point.
Speaker 5: I mean, unless you're at a place like Georgia Alabama.
Speaker 5: I mean, we just saw George's coach what one hundred
Speaker 5: million dollars and contracted football a while ago, like near
Speaker 5: the beginning of the season or something like that. Another
Speaker 5: big contracts somewhere else in college football. But if you're
Speaker 5: not a school like that, it just doesn't make sense
Speaker 5: to do those types of deals.
Speaker 2: But but if you have the money like the.
Speaker 4: Doers, even with Chad seven years, seventy five, yeah or whatever.
Speaker 3: The but you whatever money you want to bet, whatever
Speaker 3: money you want to bet, he doesn't end up with
Speaker 3: at seven.
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't think he'll get to your I want
Speaker 5: to say three for I'm going to say four just
Speaker 5: to be I do want to say three.
Speaker 9: But well, because he'll go somewhere else, he'll leave. I mean,
Speaker 9: that's what the projection is. You know, his track record
Speaker 9: shows what what was it when he got there? Was
Speaker 9: on the thirteen jobs in fourteen years? Something crazy? So
Speaker 9: I left, yeah, exactly. Wait, he doesn't love Tucson. Wow,
Speaker 9: he's a trap. Trap peezer. You know what he can trap?
Speaker 2: Wait, there's another job I gotta go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, every job says dream job.
Speaker 3: Yes, he has a lot of dreams. That's why dream
Speaker 3: ball getting up tomorrow, this dream give me up at
Speaker 3: the boarding?
Speaker 2: What's up right? Not your weekend?
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 6: It was good.
Speaker 7: I've been watching since I don't have school right now,
Speaker 7: just been watching a lot of movies.
Speaker 2: Oh really, what Jaws?
Speaker 4: Fight Club? Fight Club? It's good. I've never seen that.
Speaker 7: It's a good one.
Speaker 6: Good one.
Speaker 2: Secrets on what's shrase? There's no need you don't talk.
Speaker 7: About don't talk about it, man breaking the rules.
Speaker 2: You broke it by telling me, Yeah, it's fair again.
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Speaker 3: One sixty four forty would like to hear from you
Speaker 3: what you thought on what happened over the weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt sorry for coach all day.
Speaker 3: You know, get their coach thrown out in the first
Speaker 3: inning for whatever reason.
Speaker 5: I didn't see exactly what happens and strikes I think, Yeah,
Speaker 5: was that just the bottom line?
Speaker 4: Balls and is right to begin with?
Speaker 2: And then he.
Speaker 3: Argued more, and then you said, hey, get the hell,
Speaker 3: get the hell out of here. You're gonna lose anyway,
Speaker 3: and uh, we're gonna have Bryan. You know, he covered
Speaker 3: J two, right, I never covered Jay And I asked Michael,
Speaker 3: I guess he's an intense dude, even in those interviews
Speaker 3: are really and we played hard, you know.
Speaker 4: Very very strict, very monotone. Yeah, very yeah.
Speaker 2: Not exciting, not that you have to be, but you know,
Speaker 2: he's successful.
Speaker 3: I mean two World Series later, so right, titles. They
Speaker 3: had him here for a reason, because he's a good coach.
Speaker 3: They got him over there because he's.
Speaker 2: A good coach. You know.
Speaker 7: Did the ump falling have anything to do.
Speaker 2: With Yeah, and he fell on his own.
Speaker 7: It looked like he fell on his own. Yeah, But
Speaker 7: because then he gave the quote and he was like,
Speaker 7: I don't have anything to do with a grown man's athleticism.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah at the end of the game.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he said that in the in the postgame presser.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think so really, but it was
Speaker 3: It's interesting, like because he like was backing up or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And it looked like it looked like the coastal
Speaker 7: coach talking to like a different number, like it wasn't
Speaker 7: even facing himself.
Speaker 5: But who knows what umpires are thinking. There's sometimes where
Speaker 5: you're just like really like a couple of years ago,
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know if you guys remember the
Speaker 5: whole entire Madison Bumm Gardener thing with the checking of
Speaker 5: the hand, and that's normal for the MLB umpires to
Speaker 5: check the hand. But he wasn't even looking at him.
Speaker 5: He was just looking at Madison and barely like feeling that.
Speaker 5: He was just testing to see how stuff I could
Speaker 5: get this guy before he freaks out. And then he
Speaker 5: kicks him out of the game. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 5: what what are your intentions going in?
Speaker 6: Kick me out?
Speaker 4: I don't want to be here. I'm not going to
Speaker 4: get paid anyway.
Speaker 3: I hope nobody can read my lips when you do
Speaker 3: the right everybody doesn't know.
Speaker 2: Could you get me out of the third? He can't
Speaker 2: go three? We'll see what happens. Okay, anything else.
Speaker 5: Uh NBA, But I mean besides finals, trade deadline, well
Speaker 5: not trade deadline, but the trade and.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I wanted to get somebody from Penix.
Speaker 3: Somebody do it, by the more, But yeah, that big
Speaker 3: trade in.
Speaker 4: Phoenix and how that impacts potentially Carter Bryan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because someone said that they might pick him
Speaker 2: at ten.
Speaker 4: Seems like a good spot for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah him, Yeah, are you God?
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to say we didn't see him
Speaker 3: enough of him obviously, but obviously he's got a ton
Speaker 3: of potential. I'm gonna do the story on Caleb probably
Speaker 3: tonight for tomorrow or whatever.
Speaker 2: Because still have you heard anything?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 2: And Tommy is convinced. Yeah, but although what else is
Speaker 2: he going to say that too?
Speaker 4: But is that drafted or signed? Summer league both? You
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Well, were you there in the press comverance? Yeah, so
Speaker 3: you heard my question right, And he kind of jumped
Speaker 3: on me. He says, what have you been hearing? I said, well,
Speaker 3: I know what, I know what I read. I don't
Speaker 3: talk to anybody anymore. And he says, well, I've been
Speaker 3: talking to people and you don't feel this way. In fact,
Speaker 3: somebody interviewed me about TJ this morning. You're doing a
Speaker 3: story when Sewn said he's a pro and we all
Speaker 3: looked at him, what really? And then Caleb was was
Speaker 3: more of a pro now than t J was then
Speaker 3: a pro? That NBA player come on who's a better
Speaker 3: player too, well now because we have ten years.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, even back then, I don't know
Speaker 5: because I arguing because you full of crap.
Speaker 4: No, because you can't.
Speaker 5: You can't replace high basket Bay like you always doing
Speaker 5: the right things.
Speaker 4: I don't hustle everything. Caleb doesn't do any of that.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: But he's he He's a heck of basketball player that
Speaker 3: doesn't he doesn't fit today's game.
Speaker 2: Well no, no, okay.
Speaker 3: Caleb Calen doesn't fit today's game. He fits more of
Speaker 3: today's game. My whole thing is anything I say is
Speaker 3: going to be ten years of TJ doing really well. No, no,
Speaker 3: I agree with that because he's been fantastic. But you
Speaker 3: I'm not defending Caleb either, because I know he's flawed,
Speaker 3: and he's flawed big time. Not just basketball, it's other things.
Speaker 3: TJ was very flawed in terms of shoot shooting and
Speaker 3: jumping and athletic ability. What's the NBA about?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, no so, But to your.
Speaker 3: Point, yes, he's got all the other things, and I
Speaker 3: would take him tomorrow in a heartbeat over a lot
Speaker 3: of people. But at the time, you're thinking, how is
Speaker 3: he going to be an NBA player because he doesn't
Speaker 3: have But you think the NBA is right the potential
Speaker 3: that Carter has.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't back then. He didn't have that either.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, but he's.
Speaker 3: Found he's a fantastic player. I would I would take
Speaker 3: him tomorrow. He's gonna be a heck of a coach
Speaker 3: when he decides to coach, if he wants to do that.
Speaker 3: But with Caleb, then I'm not trying to fit Caleb
Speaker 3: in the NBA. I just don't see it. Tommy's going
Speaker 3: to defend him to the death, and he did that
Speaker 3: a week or so ago when I asked the question,
Speaker 3: kind of joked back back and forth with me.
Speaker 5: But okay, my thing with Caleb is, obviously he's more
Speaker 5: skilled offensive player than what TJ was coming out in
Speaker 5: terms of shooting the ball. But you're also a high
Speaker 5: volume shooter. You don't shoot for a great percentage, You
Speaker 5: turn the ball over, and you do none of the
Speaker 5: little things.
Speaker 2: No, No, you're right, you're right. I think he can
Speaker 2: when he wants to. When he did that when he
Speaker 2: wanted so Cadaiden when when he wanted to. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I know Aiden's much more talented. But what I'm saying player. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I got, I got. What I'm saying is the motor
Speaker 2: of it though, yeah, yeah yeah, And whose fault is that?
Speaker 4: Who's the player? The player?
Speaker 2: Right, So maybe that'll change.
Speaker 3: It's funny because when Richard came out, When Richard came out,
Speaker 3: and when we got all these people saying, no, he's
Speaker 3: not the first round guy. You look at his stats,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But Richard was a heck of a player.
Speaker 3: He's got a lot of potential back then, he came
Speaker 3: out as a junior. What he did was over the summer,
Speaker 3: he worked on his handles, he worked on his shot,
Speaker 3: he worked at and became this guy, right, this pretty
Speaker 3: good player, a flat player, but a pretty good player. Yeah.
Speaker 3: TJ's fantastic. Would take him tomorrow. For Caleb, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't see him.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't agree what Tommy is saying.
Speaker 4: I don't either. I don't.
Speaker 5: There has to be that extra gear when you're outside
Speaker 5: the scheduled times, because college is everything's so rigid. You're here,
Speaker 5: you're here, you're there, you have to go to class,
Speaker 5: you have a bunch of other stuff to worry on.
Speaker 4: When you're in the NBA. It's all on you.
Speaker 2: Did you think that Trier was an NBA player.
Speaker 5: I thought his shot, I thought his scoring ability could
Speaker 5: make him last year.
Speaker 2: He was a volume guy too, and he was he
Speaker 2: was more of a me guy, though he.
Speaker 5: Was much more one hundred percent, much more of a
Speaker 5: me guy. But I think his offensive skills were higher
Speaker 5: than Caleb. I think at times he could take over
Speaker 5: a game score So I know Caleb did against Duke,
Speaker 5: but the ceiling to that is lower.
Speaker 3: Right when he was there for a year. I mean
Speaker 3: he eventually got there in a year and last of
Speaker 3: the year and that was it. Okay, I'm getting the
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roverta. You're Troy Hutchison,
Speaker 3: and now on the phone, we have Jenna Pink from KVOA.
Speaker 2: Jenna, how are you good?
Speaker 13: How are you?
Speaker 18: Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I was wondering if you're bored because it's
Speaker 2: a summer in Tucson, and if you're like me, if
Speaker 2: you like me, I'm scrambling for stuff.
Speaker 18: No, it's never boring, never boring.
Speaker 19: No, it's definitely slower, a little bit slower this time
Speaker 19: of year with U of A and KEEMA and high
Speaker 19: school being out.
Speaker 18: But there's still a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 19: To talk about, a lot of you know, people in
Speaker 19: our community doing really cool things as well.
Speaker 3: Right right, you have the opportunity to talk about, you know, stories,
Speaker 3: the stories about people playing sports or doing whatever they do.
Speaker 3: You saw today, I'm sure that Chip got his contract
Speaker 3: and you're probably not shocked, No, not shocked.
Speaker 19: Well deserved for sure, given you know, his success in
Speaker 19: his first four years and the fact that they were
Speaker 19: just an Omaha and you know, one of the eight
Speaker 19: teams left in the entire country, so not surprising to
Speaker 19: see that.
Speaker 5: You know, not only do you have the Chip Baseball News,
Speaker 5: but here locally in Tucson you have well I know
Speaker 5: that is local as well, but you have the Mexican
Speaker 5: the Mexican Baseball League and the announcement that was just
Speaker 5: the other day. You're at that event. What what was
Speaker 5: that like? Just seeing this come together and I think
Speaker 5: it's going to be starting up in October if I
Speaker 5: am coregue that one.
Speaker 19: Yeah, opening day October sixteenth, so you can mark your
Speaker 19: calendars for that. The overall feeling that I got there
Speaker 19: was a lot of excitement, right, I mean, professional baseball
Speaker 19: being back in Tucson for the first time in a
Speaker 19: long time, and you know a lot of the officials
Speaker 19: who were there were talking about how this is really
Speaker 19: filling that gap that people in the community had been missing,
Speaker 19: and that the stadium itself had been missing this. You know,
Speaker 19: we're talking about how there was no tenant, but you
Speaker 19: could feel the excitement from the team owners who felt
Speaker 19: that Tucson was a great place given all the history
Speaker 19: with baseball here, and how excited they were just to
Speaker 19: see the blending of cultures and having you know, fans
Speaker 19: from both sides going up to support you know, support
Speaker 19: Tucson and the Tucson coming going down to Mexico as well,
Speaker 19: kind of the shared the shared cultural bond that.
Speaker 18: Will be created from this.
Speaker 19: And they also talked about how Mexican Baseball Fiesta had
Speaker 19: kind of set the tone and set the you know,
Speaker 19: the potential for this to even happen in the first place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no question. And he did you get to
Speaker 3: see the different side of baseball that they have, the
Speaker 3: part of the parties or whatever. So as you look back,
Speaker 3: as you look back to the season, the whole season,
Speaker 3: you know, from the Septembers to April's doms in fact
Speaker 3: this late how would you rate the season?
Speaker 2: From Juve?
Speaker 19: It's funny because I just did I think it was
Speaker 19: last week or the week before. I did like an
Speaker 19: Arizona Athletics year in review, So I kind of in
Speaker 19: putting that together, went through all the sports, and there
Speaker 19: were things that I had even you know, forgot about
Speaker 19: at such a long school year that sometimes you even
Speaker 19: forget about some.
Speaker 18: Of the accomplishments.
Speaker 19: But there was a lot of success, you know, starting
Speaker 19: with volleyball winning the niv C.
Speaker 18: That you know, that was their first championship of any kind.
Speaker 19: And then you know, football had had a rocky start
Speaker 19: under Brent Brennan, but there was still in visual success
Speaker 19: with Teo McMillan and three other Wildcats getting drafted, you know,
Speaker 19: three Big Twelve championships in the first year, two other
Speaker 19: Big Twelve tournament title appearances. Like I was going through
Speaker 19: all of this and you know, there was a lot,
Speaker 19: a lot of success, and it's going to be kind
Speaker 19: of fun to see how, you know, in the case
Speaker 19: like with Chippel when he's back and extended, Like, it's
Speaker 19: going to be fun to see how these teams kind
Speaker 19: of build on that success as we move into into
Speaker 19: next season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say it felt like a
Speaker 5: built kind of like building blocks this season, given that
Speaker 5: you're in the financial deficit, you're having to overcome that
Speaker 5: and to still have success and lay groundwork on the
Speaker 5: football side of things in terms of the offseason with
Speaker 5: a lot of coaching changes and seeing that all come about.
Speaker 5: How important was it do you think for Arizona to
Speaker 5: have this success given with the cloud of the whole
Speaker 5: entire deficit that I had to deal with during this
Speaker 5: academic year.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it was, you know, important because and
Speaker 18: I taught.
Speaker 19: I actually spoke with athletic director des A referend Suile
Speaker 19: today and she was talking about some of the you know,
Speaker 19: adjustments that they had to make, and they all had
Speaker 19: to kind of buy in as a program to these
Speaker 19: changes in order to get out of you know, make
Speaker 19: headway and getting out of the deficit.
Speaker 18: And I think it's kind of speaks.
Speaker 2: To the the.
Speaker 19: Slogan bearing down right of of you know, still grinding
Speaker 19: out and getting and getting those championships and having all
Speaker 19: of the success that we're used to seeing from these
Speaker 19: Arizona teams.
Speaker 2: So did you Will you have that interview uh in
Speaker 2: tonight tomorrow?
Speaker 19: Yeah, we're gonna I'm gonna do kind of two parts.
Speaker 19: So I spoke with her about the new revenue sharing
Speaker 19: how that's all going to take effect on July first.
Speaker 18: I'll have that.
Speaker 19: Tonight and then tomorrow I'm going to break down a
Speaker 19: little bit about the bare down blueprint that they put
Speaker 19: out last week about you know, kind of their their
Speaker 19: five year plan of how they hope to see continued
Speaker 19: success in both you know, on and off the field,
Speaker 19: in the classroom and.
Speaker 18: On the field, and also you know, how they're going
Speaker 18: to continue with fan engagement as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, did you talk about the deficit, because they've got
Speaker 3: it down to five million and should be cleared by
Speaker 3: next year, so which is they've done a fantastic job.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 18: Yeah.
Speaker 19: She talked about how they've you know, some of the
Speaker 19: things that they've done, and I'll have and i'll have
Speaker 19: more of that.
Speaker 18: I don't want to I don't want.
Speaker 19: To say say exactly because I don't want to misquote
Speaker 19: what she said, but you know, she did talk about
Speaker 19: the ways that they went about reducing that that deficit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so you can see that tonight.
Speaker 19: I'll have that part. I'll have that part tomorrow tonight.
Speaker 19: We'll we're talking more about revenue share and all that
Speaker 19: kind of stuff. Yeah, but it's still really, you know,
Speaker 19: really interesting. It's a totally new age of age of
Speaker 19: what we're going to see with with these schools paying
Speaker 19: athletes directly unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I know they're going to be your neighbors. They're gonna
Speaker 2: be your neighbors because you know, hell, they're making more
Speaker 2: money than three of us can buy, and four of
Speaker 2: us can buy, and then some and then some. Give
Speaker 2: me some revenue share, t mech if I could, real quick.
Speaker 2: He So we had the school year. We just talked
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: Any specific story, maybe not even related to you, of
Speaker 3: a that struck out to you or stuck out to you.
Speaker 18: I think my favorite that that I told is that
Speaker 18: what you mean?
Speaker 19: I think one of my favorite stories that I did
Speaker 19: this year was the super fan at Arizona Baseball who
Speaker 19: dances to Cotton Eye Joe Stephen Leek. That was the
Speaker 19: story that I had kind of been waiting to tell.
Speaker 19: I had seen, you know, seen him dancing every game
Speaker 19: that I had been to and and wanted to go.
Speaker 18: And then to have.
Speaker 19: Dick Greaser, who he who Stephen Leak was so heavily
Speaker 19: influenced by to become a baseball fan and at Flowing
Speaker 19: Wells High School, to have Dick Grease, He's son reach
Speaker 19: out to me and present you know, little pieces of
Speaker 19: his dad that he wanted to give to Steve, And
Speaker 19: it was a really cool full circle moment and kind
Speaker 19: of a good remind of you know, what you know
Speaker 19: these stories can be like and how impactful they can
Speaker 19: be in our community.
Speaker 18: So that was probably my favorite story that I did
Speaker 18: this year.
Speaker 19: A couple of stories was just kind of his story
Speaker 19: behind dancing the Cotton and eight show at every baseball game.
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people they think people get
Speaker 5: into this business not only what you do, but writing
Speaker 5: and stuff like that in terms of covering the game
Speaker 5: and being around the team and all that, and that
Speaker 5: is part of why everybody gets into it. They do
Speaker 5: love sports and all that. But is it stories like
Speaker 5: that that drove you into the business and being able
Speaker 5: to tell those stories of not only the team but
Speaker 5: the fans that go to these games.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm always you know, that's probably my one of
Speaker 19: my favorite parts of this job is getting to tell
Speaker 19: people's stories, you know, not necessarily just you know, of course,
Speaker 19: we cover the games and what happens, but I also
Speaker 19: like going beyond beyond those highlights and talking, you know,
Speaker 19: about the stories behind these athletes, the stories behind the fans,
Speaker 19: you know, things that make Arizona and in this case,
Speaker 19: that make Arizona athletics what it is. You know, same
Speaker 19: thing with high school, same thing with Pema College. Like,
Speaker 19: there's so many great athletes and and people who make
Speaker 19: you know, these sports teams run that have great stories,
Speaker 19: and it's kind of like it's always really fun to
Speaker 19: me to get to share those stories.
Speaker 3: One of the things you did, I think it was you.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was you, but I think it was
Speaker 3: a waka. He reads a lot, right, he reads a lot.
Speaker 3: And the story that you know, he really reads. We
Speaker 3: had him on the show maybe a month ago. He
Speaker 3: was yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 18: He read, he read, yeah, you want. He started when
Speaker 18: he was at Tennessee.
Speaker 19: He had a whole book club, and when he came
Speaker 19: to Arizona. I don't know that he ever started up
Speaker 19: a book club or not, but he was really into
Speaker 19: into reading. And you know, I think that's really cool too.
Speaker 19: I mean, you don't necessarily you know, you don't necessarily
Speaker 19: think about it.
Speaker 18: I don't even read as much as I probably should,
Speaker 18: you know, so to see that was kind of it
Speaker 18: was kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, We had him on the show and then you
Speaker 3: could just tell how well spoken he is, an articulate
Speaker 3: and you know how he uses his words like how
Speaker 3: I'm doing right now? But you know just how smart
Speaker 3: he is because he reads a lot. And I thought,
Speaker 3: you know your story and I remember the press conference
Speaker 3: where you spoke about it, but you could just how
Speaker 3: you could just see how he You can see that
Speaker 3: the wheels turning when you ask him questions.
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, his whole face lit up too. And when
Speaker 19: I remember asking him about reading, and his.
Speaker 18: Whole face lit up and he was, you know, excited
Speaker 18: to talk about it.
Speaker 5: You know, another part of your job, and you mentioned
Speaker 5: it before is that high school sports. And guess it's
Speaker 5: on you know, the downside right now in terms of
Speaker 5: the dead period, but football is going to be gearing
Speaker 5: up for training camp and getting ready for the season
Speaker 5: and not that far ahead. Uh, just your excitement level
Speaker 5: to get back out there on the high school field
Speaker 5: and cover these athletes. And what are you looking forward
Speaker 5: to this upcoming high school season?
Speaker 18: Oh yeah, it's so much fun. It's so much fun.
Speaker 19: We have our high school football show every Friday night,
Speaker 19: a football fever. Super excited to get back into doing
Speaker 19: that because you know everyone gets so excited to see
Speaker 19: themselves on TV, see their highlights, and it's just fun
Speaker 19: to be out there within the community and covering the teams.
Speaker 19: And there's so much talent here too, you know, between
Speaker 19: Maranago and undefeated last year and being in the Open
Speaker 19: and you know, all these teams that have continued success.
Speaker 19: It's really fun to to follow the student athletes journeys,
Speaker 19: like as they you know, become seniors, you know, we
Speaker 19: see them and sometimes they're sophomores, juniors on varsity, and
Speaker 19: then we see them kind of continue to grow and
Speaker 19: then go on sometimes off to college and playing at
Speaker 19: the collegiate level.
Speaker 18: So it's really fun to kind.
Speaker 19: Of follow their journeys every year, see how they improve
Speaker 19: and see you know, which teams are are going to
Speaker 19: be good. There's so much talent, like I mentioned down here,
Speaker 19: so I'm super excited for for football to start up again.
Speaker 2: So how has it been, because I think you're probably
Speaker 2: going to start second year, maybe three year of being here,
Speaker 2: but maybe first or second or second year of being
Speaker 2: the lone Ranger as a sports anchor, because I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's real busy. Although you have.
Speaker 18: Mooney, I think I think I lost it for a second.
Speaker 2: Okay, just yeah, are you there? Can you hear me?
Speaker 18: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be your second year without
Speaker 3: without a second person, right, So how difficult has it been?
Speaker 2: One? Although I think you have Mooney helping you from
Speaker 2: time to time.
Speaker 19: Yeah, no, it's it's definitely one less person to shoot
Speaker 19: football games, but you know.
Speaker 18: You make the most of it.
Speaker 19: We still, you know, have people out there at all
Speaker 19: those games and and they are dedicated to bring in
Speaker 19: as much as many games as we can to the show.
Speaker 19: And it's just about you know, trying to get to
Speaker 19: as many different things as we can and trying to share,
Speaker 19: share the love, and make sure that we're highlighting as
Speaker 19: many different.
Speaker 18: Schools with regard to high school football.
Speaker 19: In southern Arizona that we can, because, like I mentioned,
Speaker 19: so much talent down here, so just try to spread
Speaker 19: it out we go, you know, we I always do
Speaker 19: a high school game of the week preview and love
Speaker 19: getting to talk to all the variety of different coaches.
Speaker 19: I think I was at I think of the thirteen weeks,
Speaker 19: I think I only went.
Speaker 18: Back to one school twice.
Speaker 19: So really trying to get out to as many different
Speaker 19: schools in our community and talking to the coaches.
Speaker 18: It's so much fun.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Let me before you said, I'm going to drop you
Speaker 3: a little quick note later today if your look about
Speaker 3: all this, because I just thought of something, Okay.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, No, I was going to say, you know,
Speaker 5: take us through your Friday nights because you are all
Speaker 5: over the place going to one high school to another
Speaker 5: and getting all this coverage. How many games do you
Speaker 5: hit up during a Friday night and get and get
Speaker 5: coverage of?
Speaker 4: Would you say?
Speaker 19: Yeah, I would say in general, as a team, we
Speaker 19: normally will get anywhere from like six to eight games,
Speaker 19: and just kind of depends on the schedule any given
Speaker 19: week of you know, our two schools close to each
Speaker 19: other playing and someone can go grab both of those
Speaker 19: schools real quick, you know that kind of stuff. So
Speaker 19: it just kind of depends on the given week. But
Speaker 19: we have a whole team, you know, people who go
Speaker 19: out to games and help it because I would not
Speaker 19: be able to do it by myself obviously, So you know,
Speaker 19: everyone at Newsports Tucson does a really good job of
Speaker 19: stepping up and going out to games and and shooting
Speaker 19: I personally normally go to one maybe.
Speaker 18: Two if they're close.
Speaker 19: But that's because I'm putting the show together. So when
Speaker 19: I go back to the station, I'm editing all of
Speaker 19: those highlights, writing out scripts, and making the show.
Speaker 18: Come to life.
Speaker 2: So you had the Desreon today.
Speaker 3: Did you talk to her about the chip news or
Speaker 3: did that come after or whatever.
Speaker 18: Came out afterwards? I spoke with her this morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then what do you think about softball? What's going
Speaker 2: to happen there?
Speaker 18: I'm not sure.
Speaker 19: I you know, I think it's going to be interesting
Speaker 19: to see, if you know, what happens with Caitline. I
Speaker 19: think she's had a lot of success, you know, just
Speaker 19: like just like baseball, and so.
Speaker 18: It'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 19: I I don't have a crystal ball unfortunately, but uh yeah,
Speaker 19: I don't.
Speaker 18: You know, be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks a bunch for joining us. I'm gonna send
Speaker 2: you a note later. Thank you. Check out Channel four.
Speaker 2: Thank you. We we gotta call. Hello, you're on the air,
Speaker 2: nine on the wall. Who's this? It's the man?
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 2: What's up? What's up? Are you? Where are you at? Man?
Speaker 6: All right time?
Speaker 20: You know why since we're the topic of high school football,
Speaker 20: and she's saying that they only do the Friday football
Speaker 20: man is she could be the worst one.
Speaker 18: To jump on and cover all the seven tournaments.
Speaker 6: That we're going to, all the speaking up and you
Speaker 6: just seeing the strong line.
Speaker 18: Highlight?
Speaker 2: Are you calling?
Speaker 3: Are you calling from Uncle Poockle because you just kind
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Speaker 4: I don't know, dude, I got that new phone four
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a phone.
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Speaker 20: You're good, like I would say, Well, let me we
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Speaker 20: kids and build the because Arizona youth football has grown.
Speaker 20: You know, we've had Bijon Jordan Morgan. I know that's
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Speaker 6: He's doing reen konn University.
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Speaker 18: And another thing.
Speaker 4: You guys talked about.
Speaker 20: The baseball right, yes, the team they don't have a
Speaker 20: they don't have a name yet, right right, Like you
Speaker 20: better not watch it, like HOLLI botched the shigs calls,
Speaker 20: Oh my god, the Sugar's calls. Wait, Donald or the
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Speaker 20: it right there. You would have the dead section. People
Speaker 20: could have went looking like zombies or sugars called out,
Speaker 20: you know what I mean. But no, it's like I
Speaker 20: look at it and they just make a face like
Speaker 20: I'm smelling something decay, Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 20: like a sorry name.
Speaker 4: So you tell your boy not to mess it up.
Speaker 20: And another thing, those baseball fiesta things are.
Speaker 6: The most annoying themes in the world.
Speaker 4: They need to shut up the band and we need
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Speaker 5: You know, I saw something and I still don't like.
Speaker 5: I don't know how it's even potted. Red Carlisle the
Speaker 5: oldest coach to coach in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2: But really, how old is sixty eighth?
Speaker 5: You got to think of guys like Phil Jackson and
Speaker 5: the older ones. Red Red auto back and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but back, you know, back.
Speaker 3: It's like when they showed the who is the dude
Speaker 3: white tittle white tittle back when they when he was
Speaker 3: forty compared to Tom Brady when he was forty.
Speaker 4: That's true. It was a lot older.
Speaker 2: It looks like the wooden Wooden Nickel twenty five years old.
Speaker 4: Who's the second oldest? Does it say or I can
Speaker 4: check it?
Speaker 2: Who said that that he was the oldest. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: does sound the really strange.
Speaker 5: It sounds weird at sixty five then, you know, I
Speaker 5: mean the heckuy, what's his name?
Speaker 4: George Carl, George Carl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a bitch of he was old well to win,
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Speaker 2: Oh really, we got to call Hello, you're on the
Speaker 2: air Andine on the ball. Who's this?
Speaker 3: Vi?
Speaker 9: Vic?
Speaker 2: What's the word?
Speaker 10: What's going on?
Speaker 6: Troy?
Speaker 4: How you doing? Vic?
Speaker 10: I'm fantastic man, So I gotta hear your guys opinion,
Speaker 10: both of you on a on Caitlin, you are.
Speaker 4: Going she's staying, well, she's staying.
Speaker 5: But again, I think when you have a coach in
Speaker 5: today's game, Elaine duck Ere a one year deal. I
Speaker 5: don't think there's that urgency that there was back in
Speaker 5: the day, given how many transfers there are now, how
Speaker 5: classes changed now, and how Nils played a big part.
Speaker 5: I don't think there's that huge need to get a
Speaker 5: deal done right away if it's up and there at all,
Speaker 5: given the fact that roster's move and change all the time.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he could be right. Never thought of it that way.
Speaker 2: But you still got a recruit, and she's got some
Speaker 2: pretty good recruits right decently.
Speaker 10: He's got some girls coming in this year, and she
Speaker 10: did probably ce in the portal. Uh, Gray, if you're
Speaker 10: gonna grade minus, maybe I was gonna says, yeah, they
Speaker 10: got Tiara, Jenny's little sister, and she's like a one
Speaker 10: night he hitter out of San Diego.
Speaker 2: I mean victim as you.
Speaker 3: So if she if she got to C minus D plus,
Speaker 3: what does she lose?
Speaker 2: B minus B she lost?
Speaker 10: I would say, oh, yeah, yeah, I mean just with
Speaker 10: just with Dakota and and uh and Kiera she lost.
Speaker 10: That was definitely a bat plus right there.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I would say outside of Dakota and Altmeyer, the
Speaker 5: rest of them, I think you could afford to lose
Speaker 5: if you had pieces that you could get.
Speaker 4: That were you.
Speaker 10: I definitely agree with that. The pitching. The pitching just
Speaker 10: didn't pan out. But those were misses on everybody because
Speaker 10: I mean a couple of them were you know, California
Speaker 10: Players of the Year and I thought, hey, you got
Speaker 10: to do something with them, but they just didn't pan out.
Speaker 2: So how many games you go to in a year? Bick?
Speaker 10: I go to one air at least one every home stand.
Speaker 3: So do you can you if I gave you the power,
Speaker 3: can you evaluate how she coaches?
Speaker 10: She's kind of weird here. She stays in the dugout,
Speaker 10: she doesn't coach third base, Lapping coaches third and then
Speaker 10: one of the rad assistants coaches first.
Speaker 2: Style style.
Speaker 10: It's tough because man, that the pitching. Obviously everybody's mad
Speaker 10: about that, but he just hasn't had that one to
Speaker 10: go out there like that guy at Texas cat you know, hey,
Speaker 10: when in trouble, you know, he looks like a great coach,
Speaker 10: but was he Is he really that good? Because all
Speaker 10: he did was roll the ball out to his girl
Speaker 10: and that's it. And even at Oklahoma, how can you
Speaker 10: evaluate her when she, you know, just following them are
Speaker 10: just hitting bombs and bombs and bombs, and she has
Speaker 10: the best picture in the nation year in the year out.
Speaker 10: I told you that time I had and there's way
Speaker 10: back in the day. But I have this great baseball
Speaker 10: team and everybody said, oh man, Dick's so great. I'm like,
Speaker 10: are you kidding? I roll the ball out to my
Speaker 10: kid and I crossed my leg and he does. He
Speaker 10: does everything for me and that that. But so yeah,
Speaker 10: you know, once again, I mean to being the minority,
Speaker 10: but can you really Phil Jackson has twenty rings, but
Speaker 10: he had the best player in the cunt in the
Speaker 10: world two times, and then when he lost Michael the
Speaker 10: baseball he didn't win craft. So was he that great?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 10: So I don't know. Well, okay, I had one more
Speaker 10: thing for you guys, and then I'm gonna be in
Speaker 10: the minority. Or you said it a little bit Steve
Speaker 10: on TJ when Miller said he was going to go
Speaker 10: to the Pros and I laughed like I'm almost fell
Speaker 10: off my chair. He had that Bob Coosey jump shot
Speaker 10: back at Arizona, and you know what, between the two
Speaker 10: of you, tell me one play or one game that
Speaker 10: he took over at Arizona.
Speaker 4: Well again, I think I think a million. I think taking.
Speaker 5: Over is looked at differently taking over scoring, no, but
Speaker 5: taking over dominating again a game through his passing, through
Speaker 5: his defense, through his leadership, communication, leadership.
Speaker 4: He did that several times. I know when Bill Walton was.
Speaker 10: I mean he was met Kansas and and er and.
Speaker 5: You're able to You're able to. I'm just saying you're
Speaker 5: able to dominate the game without scoring in a different way.
Speaker 5: And I mean his final year. There are several coaches
Speaker 5: Bill Walton said it several times. And if you're not
Speaker 5: a Bill Walton fan, you know that's that's on you.
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying several times where he said he's
Speaker 5: one of he's one of the packed twell best players
Speaker 5: in the Pack twelve. He should he should have been
Speaker 5: a candidate for a packed tell players and he didn't
Speaker 5: get it. But that's because everybody looks at scoring and
Speaker 5: all that. But the way you dominate a game, there
Speaker 5: was nobody outside on that team that dominated again more
Speaker 5: than him, because Stanley Johnson wasn't doing he was hiding
Speaker 5: in the corner, wasn't You can make a case for
Speaker 5: Nick Johnson and Ronde, Hollis Jefferson at times, but nobody
Speaker 5: dominated the game more than t J mcconny.
Speaker 3: That team would have never been as good as it
Speaker 3: was without him.
Speaker 5: No, and he saw the previous year when he was
Speaker 5: on the bench, you had a high level talent. Now
Speaker 5: you didn't have an Aaron goreon ronnet well, but when
Speaker 5: you had who who is the point guard at the time,
Speaker 5: I think it was Mark Lions and they got to
Speaker 5: the sweet sixteen. If you have TJ on that team,
Speaker 5: they probably get to an eliteate.
Speaker 3: Well, they had a chance to become the best team
Speaker 3: when they were undefeated, until they weren't. He got hurt, right, No,
Speaker 3: to your point, Victor, I felt the same way. You know,
Speaker 3: you see what he does. But he NBA's a different level, right,
Speaker 3: it's the next level, and he didn't have it, and
Speaker 3: then he then he's just a smart dude. I mean,
Speaker 3: coming Hula thought Steve Kurr would have done what he
Speaker 3: did in the NBA. He just found his Niche found
Speaker 3: his niche you know, Judd Buschler, These dudes, these dudes
Speaker 3: that just found their way and could play the game
Speaker 3: and found the coach that loved him.
Speaker 2: And and appreciated them.
Speaker 4: Look at it.
Speaker 10: Look at I often wonder that that ninety five team
Speaker 10: of U c.
Speaker 8: L A.
Speaker 10: That one guy made a made a.
Speaker 2: Right tby Bailey and all these guys.
Speaker 24: Yet know you're right, I mean, yeah, Bannon with College
Speaker 24: Player of the Year, right right, Oh, okay, well we'll
Speaker 24: see what happened, uh with Caitlin.
Speaker 10: But she's got to be out there recruiting now.
Speaker 2: So right, we'll see. Okay. Thank hey, you guys, thanks, thanks,
Speaker 2: thanks for getting us to this ten minute.
Speaker 7: Second oldest coach by the way, Larry Brown for the
Speaker 7: Pistons in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: How old was he?
Speaker 4: Sixty four?
Speaker 5: God, these guys are say, and I was thinking, like
Speaker 5: Greg Popovich looks like he's ninety at times.
Speaker 2: He hasn't got well.
Speaker 4: Now in twenty.
Speaker 5: Fourteen, he's played it against the Miami Heat.
Speaker 3: Eleven years ago, he's seventy two. Now probably okay, Well,
Speaker 3: you had Luke gone to the Final four in two
Speaker 3: thousand and fifty whatever, two thousand and five, he would
Speaker 3: have been the oldes step at the time he was
Speaker 3: like seventy, it would have been seventy seventy one, would
Speaker 3: have been the oldest guy to kid and you're thinking, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, okay, seventy and even now Patino's what he
Speaker 3: is and some of the other guys who's uh.
Speaker 5: Well, before that, you had a Jim Behim who was
Speaker 5: getting up there in years, so.
Speaker 2: Right, right, who's there for Miami?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, so you.
Speaker 3: Know God, and they're coaching later, they're coaching later in lives. Now, Okay,
Speaker 3: we got about two minutes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for calling anything else.
Speaker 5: No, I was gonna comment on that thing that Vic
Speaker 5: brought up in terms of the coaching style of Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I think the biggest thing and he I think
Speaker 5: he was getting there to that point, is.
Speaker 4: It's very passive.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: You mentioned there's not there's not that streak, and I'm
Speaker 5: not saying a mean streak. But you have to be
Speaker 5: a you have to you have to be hard on
Speaker 5: your players.
Speaker 3: Troy, There's no question about you. To have that, you
Speaker 3: have to have an edge and then almost a fear
Speaker 3: of playing for you but I love for playing you
Speaker 3: at the same time.
Speaker 4: Fear of disappointing you. And she doesn't have that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she might be as smart as a whip
Speaker 3: on the game and all that stuff, but you have
Speaker 3: to have that them to play hard for you.
Speaker 5: And that was the biggest question during the transition because
Speaker 5: for a while, everybody kind of knew that that was
Speaker 5: going to be it for coach Andrea near the end
Speaker 5: of that season. So the conversation was months the media,
Speaker 5: is it going to be Taran Mowet or is it
Speaker 5: going to be Caitlyn Low. It's going to be somebody
Speaker 5: on the staff. Tarn seemed to have that head coach mentality.
Speaker 5: She was always out there, she was always in controlled
Speaker 5: that period. Well, yes, she got fired later in terms
Speaker 5: of what she didn't have something she wasn't the associated
Speaker 5: head coach. Okay, Caitlyn was second in charge, so naturally
Speaker 5: she is the one it's come next. But you never
Speaker 5: after interviewing them and being around them with Mike there,
Speaker 5: you never got a head coach feeling from Caitlin.
Speaker 2: Well maybe that's an issue.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's an issue, And that's where I think a
Speaker 5: lot of these issues got because Vic brought it up.
Speaker 5: You've had top tier pitching talent from California. They haven't
Speaker 5: panned out, no matter if it was Taran as the
Speaker 5: pitching coach or Conrad Martinez. You've gone through potentially Conrad's
Speaker 5: still there, but you know who knows that's his name,
Speaker 5: contorg Conra Martinez.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, here we go. Yeah, okay, we'll talk more
Speaker 2: about that later