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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, Hey guys, and I'm feeling a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you'd better because we're doing a podcast called.

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<v Speaker 1>A Strange Thing Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host, Mike, and I'm Austin, and we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming at July from the Strangers Strangers Zoom, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>your hosts.

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<v Speaker 2>We are. Last episode, we had a fun time talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, and hopefully all you find ladies and gentlemen survived

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<v Speaker 1>your Valentine's Days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that you had a great Valentine's Day. You gave

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<v Speaker 2>really good Valentine's Day gifts and your didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not all about gifts, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, But whatever it is, maybe they gave good hugs,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe kisses, who knows. Maybe they just had longing in

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<v Speaker 2>their eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they hung out by themselves and watched quarantined.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be. But whatever he did, I hope he

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<v Speaker 2>had a good Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>So last time we talked about Valentine's Day and some

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<v Speaker 1>of its weird history, and we ended on a high

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<v Speaker 1>note of Cupid.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's a high note, but we

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<v Speaker 2>ended on a note Aupid. Yeah. I don't know, he flies,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's high maybe maybe he does shroons. Maybe he's really.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he drank too much Red Bull and I gave

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<v Speaker 1>him wings.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about wings. Why would red Bull give

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<v Speaker 2>you wings? The commercial gold gives you wings? Get Cupid? Cupid,

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<v Speaker 2>would you like a red Bull already have word?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But you've been the god of love for over

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand years and you're still single. Oh, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>what I need.

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<v Speaker 2>Red Bull gives you wings. You need to watch more

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<v Speaker 2>TV or is it on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you could find it on social media. But no, o,

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<v Speaker 1>the old commercials they still make him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've seen that one. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking about Cupid. And there's that one animated three

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<v Speaker 2>D movie by Walt Disney called Tangled, and they go

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<v Speaker 2>to that one kind of tavern and there's a Cupid

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<v Speaker 2>guy that flies around the room. That's kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>typical kind of Cupid that we talk about. But he

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<v Speaker 2>really wasn't that guy. No, No, he is actually Eos,

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<v Speaker 2>the god of love, the god love.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's kind of a natural like springboard into

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<v Speaker 2>our next topic called strange gods.

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<v Speaker 1>Strange gods.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's a little strange to do an episode about gods.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to do multiple episodes about gods because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a bajillion. There's a bajillion of them, and they

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<v Speaker 2>are very strange, well not all of them, but some.

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<v Speaker 1>Of them, like we've talked about before, they seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be connected somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>They are kind of all connected.

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<v Speaker 1>Lovers in the nighttime, there's that thousand lovers in the

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<v Speaker 1>night time.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you can also just take the basic name god,

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<v Speaker 2>right or deity. So the definition of a god or

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<v Speaker 2>a deity is kind of simple. A deity or a

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<v Speaker 2>god or goddess is basically a superhuman being or spirit

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<v Speaker 2>that's worshiped as having power over nature or other human

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<v Speaker 2>forms or fortunes. So they can be a creator, they

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<v Speaker 2>can just be something that influences things. And depending on

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<v Speaker 2>which God you're talking about, in which culture that they

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<v Speaker 2>come from, they have a whole different host and variety

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<v Speaker 2>of skills or talents or abilities backstories. Yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 2>brings us to a whole nother side of this equation

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<v Speaker 2>that we're going to be talking about, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>the whole idea of God's working together with other gods

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of a government or Illuminati kind of secret

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<v Speaker 2>society system. Yeah, they're not really secret, but godless. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they call them divine counsels, so god, Yeah, that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically what that is is that they have a

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<v Speaker 2>council of all these deities that preside over the lives

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<v Speaker 2>of a certain group of people or a religion. Take

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<v Speaker 2>the Greeks for example, they had a divine council of gods,

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<v Speaker 2>and all these gods together were also known as a pantheon.

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<v Speaker 2>So all of these different pantheons are basically an elaborate

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<v Speaker 2>group of deities that come together collectively in what you

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<v Speaker 2>would call a divine.

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<v Speaker 1>Council or godly god. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's kind of rudimentary, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that's kind of important to talk about because just

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<v Speaker 2>about every major culture, especially the ancient cultures, had their

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<v Speaker 2>own pantheon of gods and goddesses, and some of them

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<v Speaker 2>actually had a divine council, but some of them were

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<v Speaker 2>more like free spirited gods that just kind of were

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<v Speaker 2>all autonomous and they did their own thing. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have a divine council, but they would still

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<v Speaker 2>be a pantheon because they were gods and deities that

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<v Speaker 2>were specific to a certain group of people or religion.

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<v Speaker 2>A good example of that would be like the Hindu gods,

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<v Speaker 2>because there are bazillions of Hindu gods. Another thing we

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<v Speaker 2>should probably talk about, because we don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>disrespectful to anybody, is that we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this as you know, strange gods. But for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people on the face of this planet, these deities

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<v Speaker 2>are not what they would quantify as strange. So when

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<v Speaker 2>we say strange, we're using the word as something that's

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<v Speaker 2>unique and unfamiliar to most of the people that hear

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<v Speaker 2>about it, or at least us. And so I guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>you that if you're a Geneo Christian background, your idea

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<v Speaker 2>of God is strange to somebody who has like a

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<v Speaker 2>Hindu belief system where there are multiple gods, which brings

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<v Speaker 2>us to another part of this that we should probably

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<v Speaker 2>talk about. So there are basically two different types of

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<v Speaker 2>god systems or deity systems or classifications, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>monotheism and.

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<v Speaker 1>Stereotheism and polytheism.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, the words kind of give it away, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you believe in one God that rules everything, he's the

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<v Speaker 2>divine over the entire universe. That is a monotheistic religion.

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<v Speaker 2>If you believe in there are multiple gods that collectively

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<v Speaker 2>get together in divine Council and they rule over humanity

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<v Speaker 2>and the universe, then that would be a polytheistic deity system.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, that's kind of our basic stuff. We need

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of the way before we talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And like I said, we don't want to offend anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we laugh or we talk about things that

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe even make them sound silly, we don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>any disrespect. It's just that to us where we sit

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<v Speaker 2>here in North America that typically is mostly monotheistic, some

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<v Speaker 2>of the other things that are more or distant, they

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<v Speaker 2>will feel more strange. And so forgive us if we

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<v Speaker 2>offend you.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let's get out with this baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just off the top of your head, how

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<v Speaker 2>many pantheons do you think there are in the world?

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<v Speaker 1>A million?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about a million, but there are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot tons of pantheons. I just googled it and just

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<v Speaker 2>went to the wiki page. Yeah. I just went to

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<v Speaker 2>Wikipedia and just typed in worldwide pantheons, And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know there must be at least forty. And these are

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<v Speaker 2>all of them that come up, and so I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to go through a few of them because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting. Yeah, So here are just a few. We

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<v Speaker 2>have the African pantheons. We have Armenian pantheons, Aztec pantheons,

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<v Speaker 2>Buddhist pantheons, Berber pantheons, Berber Berber, not justin Bieber. It's Berber,

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<v Speaker 2>and not to be confused with baby food Gerber. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the Life company, that's right. It's the Berber pantheon pantheons.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the Canaanite atheon, the Celtic pantheon, the Chinese pantheon,

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<v Speaker 2>the Egyptian pantheon, the Germanic pantheon, xpreca Deutschen Pantheono Pantheono,

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<v Speaker 2>and that would be Italian. Oh, what do you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there is probably an Italian pantheon or Roman. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>the Greek pantheon, the Hindu pantheon, the ink and Pantheon,

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<v Speaker 2>the Irish pantheon, the Jain pantheon, the Japanese pantheon, the

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese Buddhist pantheon, the Maya Pantheon, the Native American pantheons,

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<v Speaker 2>which there are quite a few of those. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you've listened to any of our podcasts on Petroglyss, we

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<v Speaker 2>talked a little bit about some of the deity structures

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<v Speaker 2>in Native America. We've got Norse pantheon, nice fun to

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<v Speaker 2>look at. We've got the rig Vedic pantheon, the Roman pantheon,

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<v Speaker 2>the Slavic pantheon, the Samerian pantheon, and the Oruba pantheon.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Speaker 1>Geez.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you could get into the little subcategories

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<v Speaker 2>of each culture that we you know, we just listed,

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<v Speaker 2>and each little click and subset of the people in

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<v Speaker 2>those cultures probably have their own divergent pantheon. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that's very very common.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people should take a drink every time you

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<v Speaker 1>say pantheon, pantheon.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fun word. They might die just say it's

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<v Speaker 2>a pantheon.

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<v Speaker 1>Pantheon.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to run through the house with my pantheon.

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<v Speaker 1>And they'll put your big old pantheon.

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<v Speaker 2>Put your big panthes on. Okay, that's stupid, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's really interesting. And you know, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>big topic not just in ancient cultures. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these myths and legends are still very active today. And

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<v Speaker 2>so even though some of these things may sound, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really ancient and barbaric, a lot of them are still going,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in like some of the Eastern religions and culture groups.

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<v Speaker 2>They're pantheons are live and active, but there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of sacrificing and things that still go on in the

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<v Speaker 2>honor of these gods and hoping that people will be blessed.

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<v Speaker 2>So have you heard the book called American Gods?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a two thousand and one novel by a guy

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<v Speaker 2>named Neil.

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<v Speaker 1>Gimon, and it was about Dunaldus Trump Andeus and Josephine

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<v Speaker 1>Biadinius and their battle for power.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what you're talking about. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>definite no.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, used to make it up? Yeah, Donald Trump? No,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I didn't even catch it. I'm slow. Sorry. Yeah. No.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a book about this guy in America who basically

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<v Speaker 2>runs into this whole subculture of gods that are actually gods.

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<v Speaker 2>But because you don't need gods in our society anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>they've kind of lost their power and so these gods

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<v Speaker 2>are walking around in human form, and that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What it's about. It's like a fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a fiction book, a documentary. And so because

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<v Speaker 2>nobody believes in them, they no longer can do or

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<v Speaker 2>be their miraculous selves. What kind of happens is that

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<v Speaker 2>people start believing in these gods and they start getting

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<v Speaker 2>their powers back. And some of them are evil and

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<v Speaker 2>some of them are good. Some of them are just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in between. They're kind of benign. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting story. I mean, I read the book I

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<v Speaker 2>think when it first come out in like two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and two, and it left to Mark. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't believe in it or anything like that. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a work of fiction, but at the same time, it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of made you think. It had some points that

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<v Speaker 2>were kind of interesting. And so now they've made a

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<v Speaker 2>on Stars and I'm not sure what else. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>very violent and very super sexually charged and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's not something for young kids. It's kind of horrific

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<v Speaker 2>and gross. And some of the things that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Lost of the Pantheons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a lot of the stories that you read

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<v Speaker 2>about in some of the ancient pantheon or some of

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<v Speaker 2>the ancient gods and what they do. So one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's really kind of cool about this TV show is

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<v Speaker 2>that there are like all these like guest stars that

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<v Speaker 2>like there's Jillian Anderson who's one of them, and I

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<v Speaker 2>media god and there, well, there's a whole bunch. But

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<v Speaker 2>what's really weird is that you see these characters that

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<v Speaker 2>and they're playing these gods that you know, that are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to stay relevant to today's culture, which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you think about it, in today's culture, it is

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<v Speaker 2>really hard to be deistic. Let's just say that deistic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to have a belief in god or a

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<v Speaker 2>god or any kind of deity.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything in our culture is about yourself or science.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, science is almost the biggest god in this

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<v Speaker 2>when Darwin came in and there was a reason now

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<v Speaker 2>that you didn't need a god for creation, right we

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<v Speaker 2>had evolution and then science came in, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the age of the universe got really really old. You

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to have an explanation of how the universe

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<v Speaker 2>was created anymore, which I mean from like a basic

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<v Speaker 2>standpoint up until you know, science times, where else would

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<v Speaker 2>it come from? Something had to make it right, because

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<v Speaker 2>nothing in your life is there without something making it. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a tree was made by a seed, the

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<v Speaker 2>chicken was made by an egg. You were made by

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<v Speaker 2>your mom. I made this bow out of a stick.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everything's been made from something from something else.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of your logical leap. But then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden somebody comes in and says, actually science

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<v Speaker 1>proves that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't need any of that stuff anymore. And

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<v Speaker 2>you think, from when did Darwin do his thing a silence?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>But since then and now it's you know, totally through

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<v Speaker 2>all of the educational system. And I would say that the.

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<v Speaker 1>Biggest god is so social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know that's probably not far off either. Of

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<v Speaker 2>social media, we're creating our own god. I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>has its own voice and its own intelligence. Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't want to get into my you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my big empirical kind of overview of this whole idea

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<v Speaker 2>of the super brain of like artificial intelligence and the supercomputer,

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<v Speaker 2>and beyond that to the computing and data system of

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<v Speaker 2>the universe. Who we're not going there yet. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's able to a special podcast down the.

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<v Speaker 1>Road, super special.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean if you think about it now, the

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<v Speaker 2>AI that is controlling social media, it is feeding you

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to see and know, and it's manipulating

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<v Speaker 2>the data that you get, and it can be controlled

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<v Speaker 2>by people, but soon it will be totally controlled by itself. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little off here because you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a different topic, but it is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>its own deity. It is its own deity system. If

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the definition of God, it is a

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<v Speaker 2>super human person thing that controls the lives and thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>and minds and existence of other individuals or people or things. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, is that kind of what we're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>About a little bit, So we got science, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It does relate to social media.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, and it isn't. So I mean, you could

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<v Speaker 2>personify social media AI as a deity, and you could

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<v Speaker 2>deify you could deify science, because if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the faith that people have in science and what it

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<v Speaker 2>says and what it does, not that I'm saying like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you wear masks, you're dumb. I wear masks everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but science said you need to wear a mask everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to say science? Or did the social media

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<v Speaker 2>say that because it helps control.

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<v Speaker 1>So they say where masks stay away from people? And

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<v Speaker 1>that changed your life?

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<v Speaker 2>It really did, Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>So science already has influenced people's lives, and social media

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<v Speaker 1>maybe amplified that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we could say that those are two more

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<v Speaker 2>modern developments of gods. I mean there have been types

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<v Speaker 2>of that in the past, but I think that is

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<v Speaker 2>a true deification of modern technology or thought. Right. People

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<v Speaker 2>put their faith in science to give them the explanation

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<v Speaker 2>for so many things. Look at like who do you

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<v Speaker 2>turn to if you're not somebody who believes in some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of god or deity, who do you put your

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<v Speaker 2>faith into heal you of a disease?

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<v Speaker 1>Science?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's the difference?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of funny, maybe maybe a little irrelevant,

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<v Speaker 1>but when people, let's say they're having a really bad day,

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<v Speaker 1>starts raining on them while they're walking to their car. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't say poop, they say oh my god. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So and then you know, they find out they had cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. It's been a thing, probably since the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of time to give credit to something your good

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<v Speaker 1>or bad experiences in life.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're saying is from the beginning of time,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least from the beginning of people, they want

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<v Speaker 2>help from things and four things that they do not understand,

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<v Speaker 2>they cannot control.

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<v Speaker 1>Or they want to. Yeah, exactly. So they got a

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<v Speaker 1>rain dance for their we need rain. We need rain

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<v Speaker 1>for the crops, so we're going to do this this

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony in hope that it'll rain. And one year it worked,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they were like, oh my god, that worked.

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<v Speaker 1>And then from now on, I really.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to have a baby, so I mean, I need

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to help me get pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>And it worked, and it works. So they're assigning these

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<v Speaker 1>things and saying, oh my god. Just an example. But

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of almost is ironic that those words line

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<v Speaker 1>up the way they do, because people assign events in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives to something, you know, whether it's oh it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was destiny, or oh it was fate. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>it was the god of love. Oh it was the

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<v Speaker 1>god of fertility.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are things that are totally out of their control.

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<v Speaker 2>All they can do is have sex to get pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>or watch the clouds and see if the rain clouds

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<v Speaker 2>are coming. They can't a good plan. They can't move

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<v Speaker 2>the clouds. No, you know what, they can't make the

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<v Speaker 2>sperm cell meet the egg cell.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just assigning something to take care of these things

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<v Speaker 1>that you have no control of.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So that's one way to think about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where a lot of this stuff stems from.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like a slow well it doesn't even have

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<v Speaker 2>to be slow, it could be fairly rapid. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>maybe generation or two, and then these things are ingrained

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<v Speaker 2>in a group of people or culture. There's another way,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've talked about this in some of our other podcasts,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the idea that maybe there is this infusion

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<v Speaker 2>of these godlike beings that have technology or whatever that

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<v Speaker 2>are multidimensional or they come in from a different space

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<v Speaker 2>time continuum, and then we deify them and they become

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<v Speaker 2>the myths and legends of gods.

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<v Speaker 1>That we now know, right, or they take credit for

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<v Speaker 1>things that are natural and allow people to project onto

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<v Speaker 1>them these supernatural abilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and if you think about technology, like so, if

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<v Speaker 2>you had somebody that say there was a multidimensional being,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll just call them multidimensional beings because I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to call them deities yet pre deity. Multidimensional beings that

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<v Speaker 2>have technology, you could call them extraterrestrials.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But they step into our dimension and they have supertech.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, super tech.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they can cause it to rain because they have

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<v Speaker 2>the science behind it. Maybe they can help fertility because

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<v Speaker 2>they have the science behind it to understand how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they can do things that to that people at

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<v Speaker 2>that time or that culture seems like something that is

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<v Speaker 2>god like because it's something they can't control.

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<v Speaker 1>It brings, you know, like people will say like magic

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<v Speaker 1>is just science that's not understood, not understood, and it

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<v Speaker 1>could be something like that. So let's say you're the

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<v Speaker 1>god of fertilities, just a gynecologist or obgyn or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So and now goes back to back in time, he

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<v Speaker 2>would be a god.

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<v Speaker 1>He would be totally either killed because he's a witch,

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<v Speaker 1>or he would be worshiped because he'd say something like

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<v Speaker 1>so when was your last period?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And then she'd be like, oh, you know, blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd be like, okay, so maybe around Wednesday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>let's you know, try for a baby and then come

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<v Speaker 1>back to me and we'll go through some diet and

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<v Speaker 1>then she ends up pregnant and he's like and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, he knows he's a magician.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look at that. Whoa, he's a god.

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<v Speaker 1>From then on, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to worship that guy because or that lady, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they got it going on. It's really fun to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about and think about the origin of the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>these gods and pantheons. Some of them are thousands and

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of years old, but they all share these same

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<v Speaker 2>kind of characters and roles. And what's really interesting is

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<v Speaker 2>that they all are gods over certain areas that mankind

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<v Speaker 2>or humans cannot control, right, And so we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>our you know, our thoughts about how this could have started,

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<v Speaker 2>but we weren't there. We don't know, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>guessing that in all of these stories and myths, all

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<v Speaker 2>of these stories and myths, there are seeds of truth that,

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, you know, like, hey, what's that experiment

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<v Speaker 2>where you tell a story and you tell somebody else

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<v Speaker 2>and they tell somebody else. Yeah, yeah, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>totally changes. But there's always a seed of the same

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<v Speaker 2>truth that kind of started. There's that beginning nugget. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think as we go through these pantheons, these strange gods,

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<v Speaker 2>these stories that we're going to be talking about, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to discover some of those same seeds, these basic truths,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll be able to span those across the different

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<v Speaker 2>pantheons and the different divine councils.

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<v Speaker 1>And the different Yeah that I say, godlyare.

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<v Speaker 2>The godly Suarez, and I think we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to kind of refine those down to a few

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<v Speaker 2>common deities or personality to their common denominator. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be really interesting. I'm looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's going to be a lot of fun.

424
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<v Speaker 1>I think it will be fun too, and it makes

425
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<v Speaker 1>me wonder a little bit if it's human nature. I'm

426
00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:16.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of that side. I feel like in this situation

427
00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:19.519
<v Speaker 1>where I brought up the idea of well, that guy

428
00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:22.640
<v Speaker 1>ended up getting pregnant or that guy.

429
00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Ended up being Yeah, that would be strange. Yeah, that

430
00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.200
<v Speaker 2>could be happening soon because of science.

431
00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:31.039
<v Speaker 1>So maybe it's kind of something like that where everybody's

432
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>got these questions. Everybody wonders where's the rain come from?

433
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.759
<v Speaker 1>And before science we just said, I don't know, maybe

434
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<v Speaker 1>there's a guy out there cries or peas every once

435
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.400
<v Speaker 1>in a while, and then they're like, oh yeah, maybe,

436
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:44.079
<v Speaker 1>well maybe if we do this dance and then the

437
00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:47.440
<v Speaker 1>next day it rains, and maybe there's another contributing factor,

438
00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:51.119
<v Speaker 1>like maybe there's some like physical element to it, and

439
00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:55.680
<v Speaker 1>then that causes people to assign gods to or or

440
00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:59.000
<v Speaker 1>some kind of person or deity to these natural events.

441
00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:02.880
<v Speaker 1>And then there's your side or another side where maybe

442
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:07.240
<v Speaker 1>there was actually a person or a deity or some

443
00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:13.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of supernatural person thing that was a little bit

444
00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:17.640
<v Speaker 1>in charge and had a little bit of leverage over

445
00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>the rain and fertility.

446
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we basically talked of two different ways or

447
00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:27.440
<v Speaker 2>ideas that could have sparked the origination of these ideas

448
00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:32.640
<v Speaker 2>or these legends and mythologies of gods. Right right. We

449
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 2>talked about the okay, some kind of outside influence that

450
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:40.359
<v Speaker 2>had super information and technology, and the other is that, no,

451
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:43.799
<v Speaker 2>this is a primitive way that a primitive mind would

452
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:50.079
<v Speaker 2>have maybe understood random accidents and developed through superstition, Yeah,

453
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:53.319
<v Speaker 2>trial and error, and trial and error developed the idea

454
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<v Speaker 2>of this god or being that's in control of these

455
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<v Speaker 2>things that they couldn't control. But then, you know, at

456
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.119
<v Speaker 2>the same time, it's like one thought that kind of

457
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:04.119
<v Speaker 2>comes into my mind when I think about that, is

458
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:08.319
<v Speaker 2>that maybe we have the wrong idea of these primitive

459
00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:11.240
<v Speaker 2>so called primitive people. I mean, we look back and

460
00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:13.400
<v Speaker 2>we're like, oh, yeah, these were all primitive people. They're

461
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 2>like Neanderthals just coming into their humanness, you know, and

462
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:20.799
<v Speaker 2>so they're just kind of so primitive they couldn't understand

463
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the real idea of science in the universe. And we're

464
00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:29.359
<v Speaker 2>so advanced now in our understanding, and so we're looking

465
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>back and say, no, they were too dumb to know

466
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:33.559
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. So it must have been this

467
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:36.480
<v Speaker 2>primitive you know, kind of act of like trying to

468
00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>understand things that they couldn't understand, you know, naturally. So

469
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I kind of get that. But what if those people

470
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:48.559
<v Speaker 2>weren't that stupid. What if those people had really good information,

471
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they have some good science. A lot of people

472
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.119
<v Speaker 2>speculate that maybe those people you know, because what we're saying,

473
00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:58.839
<v Speaker 2>these people are four billion years old or whatever they are,

474
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<v Speaker 2>and we're thinking, you know, yeah, they didn't have any

475
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.720
<v Speaker 2>real understanding. They were still developing, evolving. What if they

476
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:07.559
<v Speaker 2>were just as smart as we are, right, and you know,

477
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe they were sending to the Dark Ages because you know,

478
00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:14.160
<v Speaker 2>some catastrophe, you know, the Geneo Christian myth of the

479
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Great Flood, right, Or what about if a real asteroid caused,

480
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:22.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, an extinction event that we know is scientific

481
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.519
<v Speaker 2>and sent everybody to the Dark Ages. Yeah, you know,

482
00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:30.599
<v Speaker 2>maybe it wasn't that they were stupid. Maybe they had

483
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.160
<v Speaker 2>this science and then the people that were the survivors

484
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:38.839
<v Speaker 2>of this catastrophic kind of event brought those legends and

485
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:43.160
<v Speaker 2>myths of those people and science forward and they became

486
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.759
<v Speaker 2>the backbone of the ideas of gods and goddesses.

487
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Right. So let's say there's one, two, three people that understand,

488
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, barometric pressure. Maybe they have an injury and

489
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.200
<v Speaker 1>they can feel, you know, like you can feel it

490
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>in your bones when the weather's changing and there's going

491
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:01.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a storm, so he can kind of get

492
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:05.079
<v Speaker 1>an idea of why that's happening, or for some reason,

493
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>he understands a little more than the rest. And it's

494
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:11.400
<v Speaker 1>like my son, you know, he'll sneak out of his

495
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>room to go play video games, but that night he

496
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know that I'm down there already. So when I

497
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.319
<v Speaker 1>hear his door open, I'll just, you know, holler up

498
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 1>the stairs Backham, what are you doing? And he's like,

499
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:25.640
<v Speaker 1>how do you know? I came out of my room

500
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>and I said, I'm dad.

501
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 2>That's how I see everything.

502
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And he I think my son, truly, to some extent,

503
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:38.559
<v Speaker 1>believes that I have some way supernatural, you know, like

504
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>people say, mom's got eyes in the back of their heads,

505
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.279
<v Speaker 1>some way of knowing when he's doing something bad. And

506
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>usually it's I know his facial expressions and his mannerisms,

507
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>but I do a little bit tell him I'm a dad,

508
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>That's how I know. I just know I'm some I

509
00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:01.519
<v Speaker 1>have supernatural strengths. So maybe it kind of came from that.

510
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>This guy knew when it was going to rain, and

511
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.599
<v Speaker 1>maybe he was into watching girls dance around a fire

512
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, you know what it's going to

513
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:10.799
<v Speaker 1>rain if you do is dance for me. And then

514
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and then from that point on he was Yeah, he.

515
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Was using his h his information and disguising it in

516
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 2>a way to get what he really wanted.

517
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Or he wanted to have a party and just people

518
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to do.

519
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 2>That in no way, I mean the news, nobody does

520
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. The way you think about our

521
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.240
<v Speaker 2>idea of gods and goddesses and you know, the way

522
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 2>that we understand things now with science, and there's like

523
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:41.799
<v Speaker 2>this uncomfortable kind of tug of war between faith. You

524
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 2>put your faith in something unseen unheard for the most part,

525
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>or do you put your faith in something that you

526
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:53.480
<v Speaker 2>can measure and and kind of explain. And science gives

527
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.039
<v Speaker 2>you this way to basically take the idea of God

528
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 2>or God's out of the out of the equation and

529
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>you can just trust your own intellect and design so

530
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>that you don't have to worry about all these things.

531
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.279
<v Speaker 2>But then yet we don't have any control over the

532
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>big things in life, like how long are we going

533
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 2>to live?

534
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Right?

535
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>What do I do when I'm diagnosed with cancer? How

536
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 2>do I get rain from my crops? That if I

537
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 2>don't get in the field this year, I'm going to

538
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:20.839
<v Speaker 2>lose the farm.

539
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Well starve, yeah, maybe not even starmin but I'm going

540
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>to lose the farm that's been in my family for

541
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 1>three generations.

542
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, you name whatever it is, and then you

543
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>need to call out something bigger, beyond what you can

544
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 2>explain or control.

545
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>It almost comes down to like a desperate reach for hope.

546
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would say that it's true. And you know

547
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:46.680
<v Speaker 2>what's really weird you look at a lot of the

548
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:48.759
<v Speaker 2>pantheons that we're going to go over in the next

549
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 2>couple episodes, is that some of them don't really give

550
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot of hope. I mean, there's a little bit,

551
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:58.200
<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot of ugliness in these ideas of God.

552
00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 2>And you know, some are very even like, some are

553
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:04.559
<v Speaker 2>very unjust, and so I think maybe that's why ancient

554
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:08.759
<v Speaker 2>people created or believed in these different kinds of gods.

555
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Some are very malicious, some do awful things, some are good,

556
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 2>some are protective, Some are gods of the underworld where

557
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>you go after you die, some of them, you know,

558
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, there's like this creation of all these

559
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.720
<v Speaker 2>different kinds of deities so that we can try to

560
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:30.960
<v Speaker 2>explain these things that we're afraid of. I think that

561
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.519
<v Speaker 2>this kind of conversation that we're going to be talking

562
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.519
<v Speaker 2>about might be a little uncomfortable sometimes because we're going

563
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>to be poking and maybe areas that some people fear

564
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:46.920
<v Speaker 2>to poke. Poke that, But I think it's really fascinating.

565
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>It is really strange, and like we said, strange in

566
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>the definition that it's something that we don't know and

567
00:30:55.039 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 2>it's beyond our experience and it's uncomfortable strange in a

568
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 2>way that's like, oh, that's crazy, although a lot of it,

569
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of it will be crazy, and we'll let

570
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:08.000
<v Speaker 2>our listeners decide what is and what isn't. We're just

571
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 2>going to throw things out there and kind of and

572
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 2>talk about some of the different belief systems in these

573
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 2>different pantheons and different deities and things. But it should

574
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:17.720
<v Speaker 2>be really a fun ride.

575
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I think so too, And it's fun to kind of

576
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>imagine and work up backstories to some of this stuff. Yeah,

577
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 1>and then there's other ones where it's like, why would

578
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 1>you put a fish on a rock and leave it

579
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.839
<v Speaker 1>in the desert and make that the sign for fertility

580
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 1>or some silly ritual. I don't know, I just came

581
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 1>up with some random and I don't know if that's

582
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>the most most ridiculous thing I could think of, but

583
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, there's no reason that that would

584
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>be the story, right, that that would be the backup.

585
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 1>So maybe that came from a true deity that wanted

586
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>a fish in the desert.

587
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 2>So let's think about camp. So what would be a

588
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>true deity? I know we kind of talked about, you know,

589
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the idea that maybe these transdimensional beings or call them

590
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 2>extra terrestrials or somebody outside of our space time continuum

591
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 2>comes in with extra super fantastic knowledge and suddenly shows

592
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:14.799
<v Speaker 2>up and says, oh, hey, you know, let me help

593
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.079
<v Speaker 2>you with that. I'll heal you of that disease. Imagine

594
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>if like Kirk, Captain Kirk landed on a primitive planet

595
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>with his little magic medical little scanner thingy and they

596
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.839
<v Speaker 2>scan people and healed them up, and like Captain Kirk's

597
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.079
<v Speaker 2>a god. In fact, I think there's an episode.

598
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Where Captain like an episode starts.

599
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I mean that would do it, right. So, Okay,

600
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people do not have a problem believing

601
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:46.119
<v Speaker 2>in ets or extraterrestrials or aliens coming to this planet, right,

602
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 2>because it's a big universe, and there's lots of times

603
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:53.319
<v Speaker 2>supposedly built into the universe So what if these guys

604
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 2>came and they did things that look miraculous and maybe

605
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>they are the source of the pantheon, or.

606
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 1>What if it's even something like we've talked about ghosts

607
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and spirits that live on and maybe they have the

608
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>ability to go forward and backward in time and they

609
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:11.799
<v Speaker 1>come back and they find their ancestors and their or

610
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 1>their you know, their great great great great great grandson

611
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.039
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, hey, you know, in a dream or whatever,

612
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>hat man comes to him and he's like, hey, you know,

613
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe you should tell him that's going to rain

614
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.279
<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday if they do a dance and then and

615
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 1>then it rains and he's like.

616
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 2>God, or okay, let's throw that out there. What about

617
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:33.519
<v Speaker 2>if there are time travelers. I mean, we've seen a

618
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.119
<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff like that, and uh, even if you

619
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.680
<v Speaker 2>follow some of the social media posts like is this

620
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>a time traveler? Yeah, photoshop and back to the future.

621
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the guy knew, you know that he had

622
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.079
<v Speaker 2>that sports almanac and he was able to tell who

623
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>was gonna win and lose. So if something like that happened,

624
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, there's some science behind that, right.

625
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.319
<v Speaker 2>The possibility of moving in and through time.

626
00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wouldn't it be cool if you could go back

627
00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:58.599
<v Speaker 1>in time?

628
00:33:58.839 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>What would you do?

629
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I would invest in Sharman and three M paper masks.

630
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you go back two years ago? Yeah, no kidding,

631
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 2>I'd get a big stockpile. I'd be like one of

632
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the CEOs at Sherman, and I would have started stockpiling

633
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<v Speaker 2>for like seven years, like all the Shearman I could get,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I dump it on the market and like

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<v Speaker 2>clean out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm that's how I know their clique.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it'd be awesome. It is really fun to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we're going to come up with

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<v Speaker 2>any solid answers, but I just want to throw out

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<v Speaker 2>one more big disclaimer. Okay, me, personally, I am a theist. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe in a createur right. I believe I

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<v Speaker 2>believe in a deity that would be classified as a

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<v Speaker 2>monotheistic worldview. Right, And it might not be the typical

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<v Speaker 2>one that a lot of people that would use the

645
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<v Speaker 2>same classifications as me would agree, but I have a

646
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<v Speaker 2>very strong opinion that way, and I'm going to say

647
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<v Speaker 2>some things that maybe are uncomfortable for me to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about my belief or faith in this monotheistic deity. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do the same thing with my belief

650
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<v Speaker 2>as I do with all of the others. I am

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to be totally one sided. This is not

652
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<v Speaker 2>an attempt to convert anybody to my worldview. That is

653
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<v Speaker 2>not my job. I think what we're doing here is

654
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<v Speaker 2>really cool because it opens up the conversation for people

655
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<v Speaker 2>to discuss their belief systems in a way that's reasonable, respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what you're saying is everybody's going to get

657
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<v Speaker 1>made fun of the same amount.

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<v Speaker 2>That's basically what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, Christian Pagan whatever, it is, your equal opportunity discriminator,

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<v Speaker 1>sarcasmst is sarcasmist.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. That sounds very flexible.

662
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<v Speaker 1>I'm a sarcasms yeah, So I just.

663
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<v Speaker 2>Want to make sure we point that out. We'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>do this every episode because I don't want people to think, oh, well,

665
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<v Speaker 2>I'm this and they're making fun of me. Now, we're

666
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<v Speaker 2>going to make fun of everything a little bit. Whatever

667
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<v Speaker 2>you pull out of it, that's fine, right. There's no

668
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<v Speaker 2>ulterior motive with this other than the fascination of exploring

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<v Speaker 2>these ideas and concepts of where this came from. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's partly for me because I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fun to do this kind of like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>most of our our stuff is it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>free form, yeah, and like kind of cursory. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you always say, like high level, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or we're just tax We just kind of do some

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<v Speaker 1>some research on different topics, a lot of Wikipedia, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, History Channel covered this thing or whatever,

678
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<v Speaker 1>and we like to you know, gleam a little knowledge,

679
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<v Speaker 1>maybe even listen to other podcasts talk about similar topics,

680
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<v Speaker 1>kind of just put our own thoughts and spins on it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's a strange thing. Podcasts not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Accurate and Probable History of Science and Gods in

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<v Speaker 1>our Society or the.

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<v Speaker 2>Super Intellectual Mike and Austin Show on All Things Relevant

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<v Speaker 2>to the World.

686
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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine how boring that would be?

687
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<v Speaker 2>Would be so boring?

688
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Isn't it much more fun to hear me talk about

689
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<v Speaker 1>the god of fertility being a guyacologist?

690
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<v Speaker 2>Totally? Yeah? And don't you want to just be able

691
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<v Speaker 2>to like go out and just think about things and

692
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<v Speaker 2>maybe they're wrong? You know, it's fun, the freedom to

693
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<v Speaker 2>just go out and explore, and maybe we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the right answers. Maybe we do get lucky once in.

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<v Speaker 1>A blue man and then we'll become a god.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know about that. My body's not becoming

697
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<v Speaker 2>anything good, like, it's just going.

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<v Speaker 1>The opposite on the cupid side, not the thor.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to have a prime example of the

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<v Speaker 2>second law of thermodynamics, all you have to do is

701
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<v Speaker 2>look at me in the mirror when I'm out of

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<v Speaker 2>the shower in the morning. You know what the second

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<v Speaker 2>thermo dynamics is basically, you know, and commonly go everything

704
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<v Speaker 2>winds down, everything goes from from order to chaos. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm well into my long journey on the window. Although

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<v Speaker 2>you know from my age, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're talking about. That.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe we should get out of this conversation. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a great introduction. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>dive into some of these things. I think we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go into the top ten pantheons that are also

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a hybrid with a divine council kind of structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a big number. Get going to dive into ten

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<v Speaker 1>Now we won't go deep diving into ten, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these are going to relate to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>so we could, you know, highlight ten. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind there's a big three. You got your Egyptian,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your your like Greek, and you got your Norse. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it kind of spans across the globe. So here

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<v Speaker 2>are the ten that I'm thinking of. I'm thinking Samerian.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's like the whole epic of Gelgamesh and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of things. There's like a lot of history there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of creation myths in most of these.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's Samerian. I would say, Akkadian, Old Babylonian. Babylon

725
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<v Speaker 2>has a big, long history on this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Ancient Egyptian what was the one you kept talking about

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<v Speaker 2>last episode with the god of death, Duke, Now, nebulous, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it Wasniberius Neberia. What was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Nefarious?

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<v Speaker 2>Notus?

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<v Speaker 1>It is the god of yeah, the god of ill

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<v Speaker 1>intent and nefarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So you've got ancient Egyptian and.

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<v Speaker 1>Besides the god of death, yeah, he's like a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you got you got the Canaanite stuff. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that's where maur Duke would come into the picture Canaanite stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got Israel and the Israelite idea they

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<v Speaker 2>have a pantheon. Now that one's kind of debatable. Just

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<v Speaker 2>as a kind of preview, you have the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>the monotheistic god structure of the Israelites, which it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's really weird about that is they use the

742
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<v Speaker 2>same word for basically what sounds like a council of gods.

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<v Speaker 2>So they use the word elohem, and Elohem for God,

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<v Speaker 2>the creator of everything. And then they have these other

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like I guess you'd call small e aloheims

746
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<v Speaker 2>that are like I think they're they're created beings. No,

747
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<v Speaker 2>those are those are the offspring of the aloghem and

748
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<v Speaker 2>human women, those are the nephlo But the alohem would

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<v Speaker 2>be this council of gods, which are you know, basically

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<v Speaker 2>we would call that in Christian vernacular angels, and that

751
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<v Speaker 2>one third of the angels or these gods of an

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<v Speaker 2>innumerable number. It says that you can't count all the

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<v Speaker 2>number of these elohem. That one third of them were

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<v Speaker 2>cast out of heaven or cast it down when they

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<v Speaker 2>revolted against the Creator. So that's kind of an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 2>So even though it's monotheistic, there is this kind of polytheistic,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of subculture of created eloheim created gods. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they're immortal, but their essence is spirit, but their physical

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<v Speaker 2>forms can and have been destroyed. We'll get into that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you do a percentage, all that's left is

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Say you see that sixty six point?

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<v Speaker 1>How terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if you just stumbled on something about the

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm the first person. Let that person that

766
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<v Speaker 2>is wise calculate the number of the beast. I have

767
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<v Speaker 2>a wise man of your wives. Anyway, moving on, so

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<v Speaker 2>you have the Israelites, you have the Celtic ideas, yes

769
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<v Speaker 2>he did. You have the ancient Greeks and Romans, which

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<v Speaker 2>you could lump them together as the Greco Roman, although

771
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<v Speaker 2>they're different. We talked about Cupid. In the Roman idea,

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<v Speaker 2>he is Cupid, but in the Greek idea he is Eos.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're the same person, and that his mother, and

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<v Speaker 2>the one is Aphrodite, and the other one she's no,

775
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<v Speaker 2>not Methuselah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You can't keep track of all these all.

777
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<v Speaker 2>These goddesses, and gods there. They're just millions of them.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got the Greco Roman pantheon, and you also

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<v Speaker 2>have the Nordic, which I think it's gonna be really.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun, the Celtic thing a little bit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and what's really cool is a lot of these

782
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<v Speaker 2>have kind of been personified in like comic books and

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<v Speaker 2>and modern yes, yes, with Odin and Thor and I

784
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 2>think it's gonna be a hoot. We're gonna check out stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anybody will believe in anything after

786
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<v Speaker 2>we get done with all of this, but I hope

787
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<v Speaker 2>you enjoy the ride. And uh, you know, while you're

788
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<v Speaker 2>waiting for the next episode, if you want, just google

789
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<v Speaker 2>the stuff, find your favorite pantheon, google it and kind

790
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<v Speaker 2>of read some of the lore that is in each

791
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<v Speaker 2>one of these ones. It's just, I mean, part of

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<v Speaker 2>me goes, what in the heck what kind of moose

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<v Speaker 2>juice are these people on moose juice? Huh? Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it can't be like real juice, because whatever

795
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<v Speaker 2>it is, it's psychedelic. I mean, you know, people do

796
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<v Speaker 2>the craziest things when on this moose juice. They like

797
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<v Speaker 2>have sex with their moms.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what moose juice is. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to just imagine the craziest thing you

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<v Speaker 2>can think of. These gods, these Pantheon gods do it

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<v Speaker 2>or have done it, and they usually do each other

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<v Speaker 2>they do. I mean, it's a crazy deal. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is really weird. I hope you guys have a

805
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<v Speaker 2>great time with this, Austin. I think we can close

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<v Speaker 2>this baby out and we can prime the pumps so

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<v Speaker 2>that next time we can talk about strange gods in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that is both strange, fun, pleasant, informative, and

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<v Speaker 2>creating in you the longing to listen to more and more.

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<v Speaker 2>Which if you are getting that longing, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>go to your favorite podcasting app. Oh yeah, daykas share us,

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<v Speaker 2>save us, do.

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<v Speaker 1>All the Deal, All the Deal? Facebook, Instagram, what do you?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the other?

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter?

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<v Speaker 1>We Me?

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<v Speaker 2>We oh yeah, we're on me we now yeah? We

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<v Speaker 2>got a yeah, I got two posts on me. We

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<v Speaker 2>can't I think three followers?

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<v Speaker 1>Men download a me on my phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I like me. We it's kind of cool. We want

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<v Speaker 2>to be where everybody is. Whether it's me, we Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. But at the same time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we might get to a point we get so into

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<v Speaker 2>the weeds on some of this stuff. Maybe the super

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<v Speaker 2>social media intelligence the AI won't want us sharing that information,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're spreading across social media the annoy And we

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<v Speaker 2>totally on purpose rejected the urge to jump into any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of governmental kind of conspiracy on COVID, Trump, Biden anything.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a political lead.

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<v Speaker 1>People here is trumpeneous or whatever I said, DONALDUS trumpet

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<v Speaker 1>Trump Biden sympathies and jovephusus.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are totally trying to avoid any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing that will get people riled up in those areas

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<v Speaker 2>because it's such an implammatory issue, we're staying out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll let you guys brawl on your own, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So join us next week as we sit down with

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Shapiro and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be on m S, n CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC,

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<v Speaker 2>element O, P Not. We're not nobody cares we're small

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<v Speaker 2>potatoes or hacks.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, we'll close this out.

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy. I think we've done everything we need to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've called you buddy two episodes in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>I must like you or something a little bit yeah

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully Yeah. So join us next time for some cold

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<v Speaker 1>drinks and some political conversation range conversation,