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This is the Truth Seeker Podcasts. Excited and delighted to

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be with you guys again to do what I thoroughly

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enjoy doing, talking to interesting people, having conversations that maybe

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seeing taboo to have in your normal everyday life. You

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can't really go on the job site and start talking

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to people about UFOs or psychedelics or aliens or even

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spirituality for that matter. So I remember when I was

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on the job site, I had to go there. I

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had to talk about football and sports and the weather

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and things like that, you know. So like to really

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create an atmosphere where we can dig into some of

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these ideas and thoughts and experiences that we've been having

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and kind of just throw them up man and see

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what sticks. And so it's really cool when people have

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had similar experiences and similar encounters and we can all

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come to the table and bring our information there and

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not argue, not to debate, you guys know, I don't

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like to do that, even when some people want to

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prompt you to do that. It's not that there is

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a specific agenda with the information that comes on. If

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that's the case, then I wouldn't have a lot of

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certain guests on here who are strong with their standpoint.

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But it's really about exploring the information for what it

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is and seeing if it fits. And I think that

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a lot of us are having very similar experiences. There's

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more insight that we can get with the more people

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that we talk to and really have like a judge

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of character for people and just see where they're coming from.

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So we got a good show for you guys. Today.

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I'm going to be speaking that David Curtis about his

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UFO encounters and got some really interesting information on how

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it ties into spirituality in the occult and things like that,

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and so I think they go hand in hand. I

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think they're good for the most part. You know what

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I'm saying that when we talk about having an agenda,

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that's maybe that's an agenda. You know, those are my experiences,

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my encounters. Other people have had similar encounters. But then again,

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we've had other people on the show, such as Carrie

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Cassidy and some other people who say, wait, these things

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may not be as pleasant or as good as we

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think that are, or want them to be. For that matter,

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I think I want them to be the saviors. I

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think I want them to be the ones that are

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watching over us and have been here since the beginning,

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and I think they are so. But I think it's

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just about looking at the information for what it is,

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and I'm definitely open to that to have those conversations

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thank you guys without further ado. David Curtis, you're joining

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us from Australia, Is that right? Brother from England. The

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accent right, Welcome to the show Man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I guess after I did those interviews with Kerry Cassidy,

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I guess you find out my work and seeing what

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I do, and reached out to me wanting to be

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a guest, and showed me your material some of the

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other interviews that you've done, and I kind of went

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in and were just skipping around throughout the interviews because

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it's a lot of material there, and I went right

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to the place I needed to go, talking about the

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White Room and the UFO encounters and things like that,

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and I thought, now, I haven't listened to the the

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entirety of it, but I thought that it sounded mostly

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like pleasant experiences, that it was something that maybe is

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welcomed versus being something of negative or being tormented or

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something like that. If you want to set that up

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of kind of go into some detail, I'm interested to

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hear the whole story, man, at some of these encounters

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that you've had.

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Speaker 5: Okay. So I was born in March the first, nineteen

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forty five, at the end of the World War two,

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and I was living in Oxford, and I was brought

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up in a non religious house, so things like good

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and evil, God's soul, Jesus, they didn't mean anything to me. No,

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that was it, really. You know. They weren't materialists, they

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weren't atheists. They were just ordinary people working ordinary jobs.

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society they were brought up in. So anyway, at the

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age of four, I'm lying in bed and I see

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some flickering lights by the ceiling and I'm kind of

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fascinated by them, and I feel my body is expanding

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into the room, so it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

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I get a bit freaked out and put my head

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under the pillow and I see these entities running around.

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memory of an abduction, but something strange was going on

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with myself, and maybe that was the beginnings of some

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kind of inner world, you know, and inner world that

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was not in my family. And I never told my family,

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and I wasn't particularly frightened, so I didn't tell my

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parents about it. So then I move on to fifteen.

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New Hampshire. So I go over there, I go to

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high school and he's just come out of the Air

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and he gets me a job in the Air Force base.

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While I'm working in the Air Force base. This is

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nineteen sixty one in the fall, and right when I'm

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working there, the most important UFO abduction case is being

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investigated right at that moment in that particular Air Force base,

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and it's the Betty and Barney Hill abduction. And John

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Fuller wrote a book called The Interrupted Journey in about

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nineteen sixty seven. So I'm at a place that's very strategic.

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it contact Tee, so like Georgia Dampski would say, you know,

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he's a contact with Venus. But since Betty and Barney Hill,

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it became abduction. So that was like I had this

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four year old thing and then it's kind of like

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you tick another box. It's like suddenly I'm right at

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the center. You know, there's a maneuver like on the

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chessboard and I'm maneuver to go over to America. I

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believe it's all orchestrated. I believe that it's a what

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I call a meta programming by alien intelligence which I

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have contact with, direct contact with, And I didn't know then,

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of course, but looking back, I can see that, Yeah,

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my life, I haven't been the mover of my life.

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I haven't been the kind of ego center that's in control.

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I'm just kind of following. I'm not far orders. In fact,

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I feel very free. I feel very liperated person. I

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feel that somehow I'm kind of receptive and adaptive. And

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I've been to India, I've been all over. I've lived

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in about fifty different places.

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is it this inward? Is it this inward knowing? Like

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because you said you don't feel forced, It's like you

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know in your heart of hearts, that there's this divine

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purpose that you're here for, there's this part of your journey,

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and if you submit to it, amazing things begin to happen.

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Your life begins to be orchestrated by essentially the hand

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of the divine. Or you can kind of step away

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and say no, no, I'm not going to entertain that.

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I'm just going to do what I want to do.

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Speaker 5: Can go into that. Well. At fifteen, my sister and

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brother in law they go to California. I get kind

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of a bad so I'm literally on my own in

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fifteen sixteen, and I'm with an American family and then

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I get a job in a summer camp and I

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literally have no money and nowhere to go, so I've

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got to literally ask people to look after me. So

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taken to New York to Poughkeepsie, which is about fifty

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miles north of New York City on the Hudson River,

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and I live with a family. The man is an

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IBM person. He's an inventor and he's got many patents

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on computers. And when I leave high school, he gets

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me a job on the Apollo Rocket. So I'm doing

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some basic work working on modules and microscopes on the

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Apollo Rocket, and then I go to the State University

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of New York at stoney Brook, Long Island near Manhattan.

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I'm into classical music, but there's a rock concert and

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it involves the soft Machine and Jimmy Hendrix experience. So

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my first kind of light opening into the rock scene

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and the hippie scene and counterculture was Jimmy Hendrix. But

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as I say, I went to the concert and for

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whatever reason, I decided to drop out of college. And

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I wasn't part of the counterculture. I wasn't aware of

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hip is only like Jimmy Hendrix, but I wasn't aware

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of the counterculture. And the guy, the young man that

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I was like friends with in this IBM house, he

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had gone to Vietnam and he came back from Vietnam

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and he had a really good Corvette, you know, super

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Corvett car, and he said, you want to meet Timothy Leary.

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So he takes me out to this house. Timothy there

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is only living about twenty miles away in Millbrook, and

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I go out there. We drive into this big estate

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and there's this big wooden house with psychedelics painted all

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over the wood the house, and there's all these people

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freaked out. So they're just lying around quite free, and

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we have a conversation with Timothy Leary, but of course

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I don't know anything about Timothy Leary. So anyway, in

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the local paper, it shows Leary and some friends throwing

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flowers at the policeman at the police station because they

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used to raid the house all the time, you know,

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for like drug set, rock and roll, that kind of thing.

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So anyway, I'm in Poughkeepsie. I was married, I left

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my marriage, I left the university. I don't know anything

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about UFO's spirituality or anything like that. And I get

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this room and I just have a change of consciousness.

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I don't know where it came from. It just like

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took over. And I describe it as walking around the town.

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And it was like a Gothic It was very Edgar

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Allan Poe, very Gothic, very shadow world. I liked going

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out in the evenings. I like going out before dawn

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in the early morning. But I wasn't aware of magic

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or anything like that. And things started to happen. I

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started to meet people I would never have met if

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I wasn't in that state. So doors were opening, So

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will we.

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Speaker 3: On, Yes, we're going. There was some kind of hiccup.

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Speaker 5: Oh sorry, So doors were opening, and I end up

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going to New Pole State across the river, across the

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Hudson River, and I start mixing with hippies, and I

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get into that scene, the hippie scene, and in New

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about ten or so years later, David Wilcox goes to

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New Pulse and the place I was at before Stoneybrook University,

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Dan Burrish, and I think Project Hamlot interviewed Dan Burrish,

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and he plays a major part in my life, not personally,

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but what he revealed about the looking Glass, Yellow Cube,

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the book to do with Oryan, and I get very

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connected to Oryan and I'm given a cube in the vision,

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so it links in with where I was at the

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university with Dan Burrish and then later with David Wilcox.

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I meet a friend in Oxford and he's the world

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He's now the world Scholar on Youwungen synchronicity. So I've

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got synchronicity coming in with David Wilcox and the UFO

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at Stoneybrook with Dan Burrish. So it's like setting the sea,

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if you will. So I'm living in Upos and I

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come back to England and I go off to India

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and I spend some time with Alama there in the Himalayas,

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and I can kind of quick forward to nineteen seventy

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six when I'm in Oxford and I'm living in the

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house of Lawrence of Arabia, and above my window is

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a blue plaque. And they put blue plaques on houses

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where very famous people live, and that was Te Lawrence,

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Lawrence of Arabia, and that was nineteen seventy six, seventy seven. Well,

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in that year, a very famous euthologist, John E. Mack,

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who wrote a book called Abduction from Harvard University. He

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wrote a definitive book, a biography of T. E. Lawrence,

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Lawrence of Arabia. The very year I was in that house,

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and that's where I had my first UFO experience.

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Speaker 3: What was that like, your first encounter?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Right, So I'm in a dark room. I'm looking

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out of the window in the dark room, and I

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see this light above some trees in the garden. I

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have no knowledge of UFOs. I haven't seen any movies

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on UFOs, so I'm really I don't even know it's

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a UFO. It's just a light in the sky. So

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I'm sitting there in a very deep state, and suddenly

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the light penetrates through my left eye. There's no light,

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there's no beam from the light, but I know the

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light goes right into my left eye, into my brain,

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right into my psyche, and I'm very surprised. I don't

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know what it is. I'm very interesting did and it

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moves to the right, so it's going from the left

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eye to the right eye, and I think, you know,

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I wonder what's going on. It's very deep experience. It's

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slightly troubling, but I'm not really that frightened. And then

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it goes back to the It was going to go

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back to the left eye, and I knew something radical

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was going to happen to me, so I kind of

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like got up and drew the curtains, and I felt

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like it was trying to move me into a hypnotic

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state and maybe take over. And just like in my

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four year old experience, although I was expanding into the room,

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I stopped the process and put my head under the pillow.

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And even when I've taken psychedelics, I've never let go

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of my body. I've never what you call had an

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authentic out of the body experience. I seem to shut

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down the process. And that's always been the case when

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whenever I've been confronted with I don't know what it is,

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but I've had contact with a certain kind of power.

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It's not it's an invisible power. I'll go into that.

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It's an invisible power, and I haven't given it a name.

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I don't know what it is. I have never given

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it a name, and I link it to UFOs. But

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this power, it's like coming into the room and you

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don't want to connect with that power. You know it's there,

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but you don't want to know what it is. You

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don't want to because it really is power itself if

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you want to know. It's like if you take all

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the concepts of power, political power, power of the ego,

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power of science, power of technology, even power of UFOs,

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if you take all of that and put it into

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an essence and call it a power that has no name.

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In the Gnostic tradition they call it the Unknown Father.

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In Tibetan Buddhism, they call it the One Mind. In

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Anage in Egypt, they call it Foth or the One.

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It's the one. It's the emptiness. I've actually entered that now,

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I've actually been into the emptiness. But it's not the

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power itself. It's a reflection of that power. It's not

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the power beyond the body and the grave, it's not

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the power beyond the planets, but it's the same power.

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But it's like the moon reflecting the sun.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's exactly what I was thinking as you're speaking, right.

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Speaker 5: Good, because I've got a very important information about the

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moon recently revealed to me, and about the moon and

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the Earth and the matrix. But anyway, so I'm in

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the room, I have this experience. It penetrates into my

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interior life. It's scanning my memory, it's scanning my personality.

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It's intrusive. It's a very profound experience. But the end

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result is I don't feel it was bad. Although it

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was very intrusive, I don't feel like it didn't It

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wasn't meant to make me feel that I didn't want

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further experience.

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Speaker 3: Did it feel good? Was it euphoric at all? A

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lot of people talk about having those similar encounters or

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even though they're strange, otherworldly, it's euphoric. You feel relaxed,

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you feel like you've had soma or something, right like,

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did you feel that at all? Was it intoxicating?

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Speaker 5: Well? Not the first experience wasn't, but I can. That's

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seventy six, seventy seven. And as I said, links in

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with Johnny Mack at Harvard. Well, you see, Timothy Leary

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was at Harvard and Ramdas Richard Alp, but he was

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at at Harvard, and they both visited the lama that

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I visited in the Himalayas near to Beth.

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Speaker 3: So you just lay right behind them.

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Speaker 5: Maybe, yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. So if I go

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forward to nineteen eighty four in Oxford, and I call

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it the Powerhouse, and I'll go into the power I

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call it the Powerhouse. You go through the door, and

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there are two black pillars. It was owned by a

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college in Oxford and this lady that rented out rooms

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and I had a garret. I had a garret with

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a big window at the top on the roof, and

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I looked over the valley and the hills in Oxford,

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and I call it my powerhouse. And there were two

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black pillars. But I had no knowledge of occultism or magic.

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I was getting into that a little later with a

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lot of people in the Golden Dawn and Crowley, but

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I didn't think anything of it. You go through the

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black pillars. So through my life, I have the spontaneous

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feeling to open up the curtains or look out of

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the window. It's just a spontaneous feeling, and I might

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contact UFOs. So this is my first contact, my second

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contact with UFOs. So I open up the curtains and

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I just had this feeling to look to my left,

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there's a light. Look to my right, there's a light

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in a gray sky. So it's a gray sky, two lights.

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I write this play about two UFOs in dialogue, and

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it's as if the UFOs are thought forms having telepathic conversation.

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I'm so freaked out by that manuscript. I literally throw

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it away. I don't even get into it. I'm so

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freaked out by it. And I liken it to like,

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if you're in the house with two spies from m

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I five or CIA and they're talking about very important information.

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You don't want to know that now if they know

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you've got it, it's important, powerful information. And I was

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tuning into very powerful information. And maybe I was meant

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to do it, but I didn't feel I felt it

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was overpowering, you know, like I was tapping into some

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power that freaked me out, just as it is as

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a child. The next thing that happens is that I'm

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sitting and it's in the daytime. I'm looking over the

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hills and I feel this energy coming over the hill.

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I can't explain. It's a sunny day and it's just

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this energy that I call power. That's why I call

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it the powerhouse. It's this power that has no dimensions.

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I can't tell you what it is. I just know

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it's this power and I don't know what's happening. I'm

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looking at the hill and it comes over the hill.

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I can feel it coming over the hill, getting closer.

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It's coming across the countryside, and I knew that when

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it touches that house, it would wipe me out. So

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again I'm having that feeling of being taken over. But

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this power, I didn't see anything. I didn't have anything

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in my mind. But it's hard to explain. It's just

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this invisible presence.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what do you feel like though? Is that

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the euphoria when it comes? Is it a good thing

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or is it scary and good? I mean.

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Speaker 5: No, it's like when I was a child. It's quite simple.

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It's like you don't want to do it. Somebody says,

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if somebody says, get on my motorbike, I'm going to

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go one hundred miles an hour. No, no, I'm not

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going to do that, you know. And it's kind of

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like that. It was kind of a it was quite simple.

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It's just like a choice, you know, like when I

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was Oh, I didn't have to do it. So, no,

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you're offering this power, you're offering to take me on

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this trip out of my body. I'm sorry, but I

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don't want to go your land, you know. And I've

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had UFOs within ten feet of me, so I've had

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an opportunity to connect, but.

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Speaker 3: You've never You've never had like the physical like get

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on board or nothing like that, but you felt like

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you could have.

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Speaker 5: Right, let's put it this way. I think there's a

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reason why I don't want to be taken over. It's

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to do with independence. Is to do with freedom. It's

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to do with maturing and getting integrity, getting my own foundation,

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getting my own strength. Now, throughout my life, I've made

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contact with a lot of famous people, a lot of

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powerful people, gurus and pop stars and all that I've

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made contact with. I've had a chance to be published

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by Oxford University press at the highest level. I've never

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accepted any of that. I was I could have been

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in the number one video on the top level television

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in this famous like pop artist. Right this woman wanted

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me to be her mat man in her video. I

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didn't do it. So there's some level of power. There's

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some level of power that's not only invisible from another planet,

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from another dimension, but there's power in the world. It's invisible.

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You know. You can think of politicians, and you can

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think of very rich people, very the illuminaty, the movie Jakers,

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my Friends, the world scholar, he goes around all around

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the world. He's you know there, it's like a think tank.

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I mean it's on a very high level. But you see,

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I don't want that.

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Speaker 3: What about for good though? Using it for good? We

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mentioned the Illuminati. I mean they just released a video

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like two days ago of one of the biggest pop

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stars in the world right now, a guy called the Weekend.

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Somebody was filming his set and on the screen behind

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him it flashed the word Satan really fast and they

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had to record it and they freeze framed it, and

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so it's like they are getting power. There's a power

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out there. You can use it to tap into it

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for good or for bad, but you have to kind

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of pay homage to a god or a thoath or

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look at you know, we look at the people who've

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kind of went before us, so we're talking about Crowley

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or these type of people. But I think it could

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be definitely used for bad. I think that's the most

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what we see going on the Illuminati and things like that,

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seats of power. But I think it could be used

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for good too, like if we follow that intuition, that

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spiritual guidess. Because and I linked that to this because

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a lot of what you're talking about sounds like the

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Pranayama spirit that's just permeating through all life, the Kundalini,

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the Holy Spirit. It sounds very much like this. In

471
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,720
these encounters that people have had with the awakening of

472
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:22,599
the Kundalini. The baptism of the Holy Spirit feels like

473
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,559
this intense fire. There's a fear there, but it's a

474
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,440
good It looks over their life, knows everything about you,

475
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,640
loves you, it's okay. It cleans out all the wrong

476
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,160
and and sets you on that life journey. And it

477
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:40,400
sounds very similar to That's why I have to bring

478
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,200
this up with the UFO experiences, because if we're to

479
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:46,440
me the UFOs are the angels of the Holy books,

480
00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:49,680
that's just the angels of the creators. What would you

481
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,119
say to that.

482
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:57,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, in Yungian, in Yungian psychology, you know, we

483
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:02,119
have a body, there's a spirit, and there's the psyche

484
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:05,480
right where we dream and have visions and out of

485
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:09,480
the body and psychedelic. It's all of that. Now, that's

486
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:13,519
not necessarily the dimensions. You know, the spirits are dimension,

487
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:18,279
the bodies are dimension. But the psyche what they call maya,

488
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,519
the illusory body. They say it can be like a

489
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,880
size of a sesame seed, just a seed, or it

490
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,519
can expand to fill the universe, like the Atma and

491
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,119
the and Brahman and the Atma. So in a sense,

492
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:41,599
the psyche is in the one sense nothing and everything. Right.

493
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:50,359
So if in the psyche you meet entities, right, you

494
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:54,319
meet entities. Now, they could be UFO entities, they can

495
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:57,480
be angelic, they can be Satanic. And I've met quite

496
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:01,480
a priety. I've met hundreds of entities. I've never spoken

497
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:04,640
to them or anything like that. So I'm in this powerhouse.

498
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,519
I wake up in the middle of the night. I'm

499
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:12,039
looking at my body and above my body is a

500
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:19,599
figure lying above my body, and it's the devil. Right,

501
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:28,680
so it's Satan. Now in the in Steiner Rudolph Steiner Anthroposophy,

502
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:31,920
he talks about the Guardian of the Threshold. I see

503
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,079
it as the Kundalini, right, So it's the awakening of

504
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,240
the Kundalini. But it's Satanic. It has a dark force.

505
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:42,920
So they call that Karli, the black goddess Carli. But

506
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:47,039
it's lying above my body, and I think it's a

507
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:50,960
beautiful looking being, right, it's a beautiful looking being. And

508
00:32:54,599 --> 00:33:00,119
so if it then I have another experience. I'm I'm

509
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,400
lying in bed. I'm not awake. I'm aware of myself

510
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,000
as a fetus. I'm lying in the fetal position, and

511
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,680
a hole appears in the top of my head, and

512
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,400
my perception goes out of the hole at the top

513
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,240
of my head and I see it. I see like

514
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:23,720
a sea of infinity, like blue and white waves going

515
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:28,400
off into infinity. So I see that as the reptile.

516
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:33,279
In fact, lizards and reptiles have a third eye. You

517
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,559
can't see it's atrophid. It's there, it's there in the

518
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,880
third Eye. So in the ancient world, everybody worshiped the dragon,

519
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,599
and that symbolizes the third Eye, but it also symbolizes Draco,

520
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,279
the pole star in Draco, because that's your guide start.

521
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,880
So when you travel by sea in the ancient world,

522
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:59,279
everybody worship the dragon because that was your guide in

523
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,440
the heaven. So when you look you travel by sea

524
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:07,720
or you travel, you're always looking for the pollstar in Draco. Now,

525
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:14,480
in the UFO community, you know, the Rectilians have got

526
00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:20,079
a bad press, But I've never had that particular point

527
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:25,159
of view. Now. The point is that when I had

528
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:29,079
my first awakening in Poughkeepsie and I dropped out of college,

529
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:32,239
and I felt I was in this different kind of

530
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,880
dimension in the city, different dimension that there was a

531
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:42,599
terrible aspect to that. It was a very very terrible aspect,

532
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,199
but as you say, it was also euphoric. It was

533
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,079
like double edged. It was like good and evil, it

534
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:54,079
was like ying and yang. So there was like a

535
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,199
terrible thing and yet at the same time it could

536
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:04,360
switch to something really you forhic, really ecstatic. So I've

537
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:10,639
always had that polarity in my set south where you know,

538
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,239
I don't take sides. I don't like to take sides

539
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,199
in politics. I don't like to take sides in the

540
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,239
alien agenda, the conspiracy theory. You know. I like things

541
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,840
to happen to me good or bad. I take the

542
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,239
rough and the smooth. I don't kind of like shy

543
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,519
away from anything. I've gone very deep into things in myself,

544
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:41,800
and I feel that's the fabric of the psyche. That's like,

545
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:47,079
these entities are really Maya. And I'm afraid that a

546
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,840
lot of what people think about the UFO and entities

547
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,840
is really you might say thought forms and there they're

548
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:02,159
both revealing something to you, and yet they're not to

549
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,480
be taken seriously. They're not the reality that they're not.

550
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:13,760
They're not really to be confused with spirituality. Spirituality is

551
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:19,320
one thing that the spirit and nirvana and whatever, and

552
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,440
and I think that people are taking sides like reptilians

553
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:30,159
versus ordin that kind of thing. But I treat the angelic.

554
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,639
I treat that kind of thing as entities who are

555
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,119
who are revealing. They're bringing something to you, to reveal

556
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,440
something to you, and you've got to weigh things up.

557
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:45,599
You've got a kind of like, wait, weigh the good

558
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:48,480
and the evil. You've got to like, you know, like

559
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:50,280
the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

560
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 3: You've got to kind And.

561
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 5: It says the tree is to be desired to make

562
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,679
you wise, and the serpent is your guide. In the

563
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,199
Gnostic tradition, the open is your God. If you look

564
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,840
at the dow. If you look at the dow, which

565
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,519
is the way, that is the dragon path. That is

566
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:12,880
actually called the dragon path because it's Draco. It's your

567
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,519
garden loads star, it's your load star. And in England

568
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:22,480
we call them lay lines. Okay, I lived on the

569
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:26,400
lay line. When I had my first UFO experience in Oxford,

570
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,559
it was on the lay line. It was on a

571
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:31,360
dragon path.

572
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,559
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. When it talks when

573
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:42,239
you're talking about being contacted by the UFOs, are you know,

574
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,360
getting that intuition to go look out the window and

575
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,280
there they are. I've had I've had very similar encounters

576
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,519
looking look up to the sky, you acknowledge that they're there.

577
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:52,800
They kind of like wave at you, and then they're gone.

578
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:57,079
And then there's a download, there's a knowing, there's an intrigue,

579
00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,880
there's an r and I think that promotes spirituality for me.

580
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:03,079
I talked about it a little bit on carry show

581
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:08,559
on Project Camelot, where creativity like that it lights something

582
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:11,719
within you and even the God thing for me, Like

583
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,559
there's some people who the existence of aliens or our

584
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:18,039
creators or these entities that are out there that are

585
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:21,280
good watching over us or exist on other planes of existence.

586
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,519
To them, it kind of destroys their faith in God.

587
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,599
But for me, it makes it more real. It makes

588
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:31,639
it tangible that this isn't just a theory. These aren't

589
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:34,559
you know, these stories that were passed down, and God

590
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,920
isn't so far away that we can't interact with that realm.

591
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,760
But they are watching over us there in the outer space.

592
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,079
They can come in and out of our dimension. There's

593
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,480
so many layers to it, and so it builds my

594
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:49,840
intrigue and almost gives credence to the beliefs that I

595
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,000
have about spirituality, about God, about the ancient text, about

596
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,320
the Bible, those type of things. It all types kind

597
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,400
of fits in there. But so when it comes to

598
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,320
being contacted, and you said you've had open contact for

599
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,639
a long time, that's one thing that comes with these

600
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,840
experiences as open contact, And you mentioned being contacted, but

601
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,079
have you done the work on the other side, where

602
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:15,119
you go out in what was there's a term called

603
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:20,320
summoning UFOs. Have you ever went out and did a ritual,

604
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,559
raise your hands, did a prayer, whatever the case is

605
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,239
in contacted them and they have appeared to you.

606
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,599
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, as I say that, my first nineteen seventy

607
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,559
six in Oxford. Then I had my second, which was

608
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,360
nineteen eighty four. And if I go forward to say

609
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:42,840
ninety four, I'm living in the north of England, in Lancaster,

610
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,840
and I decided to go out. It's freezing cold in

611
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,320
the winter. I go out and the constellation that's closest

612
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,280
to Britain that dominates the sky is a Ryan, right,

613
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,159
so I went out. I didn't know anything about Ryan

614
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,840
at that time. So I look up into the sky

615
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,239
and there's a Ryan. And just in the corner of

616
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,920
my eye, I see something near the roof of the house.

617
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,039
I look up and there's a red orb the size

618
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,159
of a basketball. So it's a red orb. It's about

619
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:17,960
ten feet away and it's like a microphone like mesh,

620
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:21,440
you know, like a like mesh kind of thing, and

621
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:25,199
it's just hovering there and it moves very slowly. Second

622
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,760
by second about fifteen feet and it just disappears. And

623
00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:39,320
I moved from there for maybe a year. Later, I

624
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:41,960
moved back to Oxford for a short time to stay

625
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:47,400
with my nephew. He's just finished university in artificial intelligence,

626
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,840
so he's got a degree in artificial intelligence. He's got

627
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,360
this place in Oxford. I spend some time there with him,

628
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:57,280
and I decide to go out on the porch. So

629
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,280
I go out on the porch and there's this red

630
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:06,360
orb again, this sphere right in front of me, and

631
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,400
it's just hovering there. That's two hundred miles away from

632
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,159
the former one. And then I realize I'm being monitored, right,

633
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,960
So that's and that's connected to me looking at Orion

634
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:22,320
as well. I was actually spent time in the in

635
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,519
a room just looking at Orion before that happened, so

636
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,400
that would be that would be my fourth. Then then

637
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,760
I moved down south near London where I'm living now,

638
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:42,639
and I decided to do a UFO watch from my window.

639
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,760
So I opened my window and the Ryan's up in

640
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,719
the sky just above me. And what happened in the daytime,

641
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:54,599
my friend, my friend who was is a professor of

642
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:58,440
psychoanalysis and he's, as I said, world scholar on young

643
00:41:58,519 --> 00:41:59,360
and synchronicity.

644
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: He used.

645
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 5: He went to Glastonbury, which is very a cult center

646
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,760
where the Arthorian legend is. When he was at Oxford University,

647
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,400
took a couple of years out and he got into

648
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:19,440
Crowley and he had the book Israel regard as Encyclopedia

649
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:22,199
of the Symbols of the Golden Dawn, that kind of thing.

650
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,400
So I looked into the book. Oh you know, I

651
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,199
looked into the book and I thought, well, I look

652
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,440
at a pentagram. I just thought i'd look at a pentagram,

653
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,360
and I thought, well, I think i'd draw the pentagram

654
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,119
outside the window. But when I had the thought to

655
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,639
draw the pentagram outside the window, I've never practiced anything

656
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,280
magical before. And I don't know why I did that.

657
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,239
I literally don't. But when I get the feeling to

658
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,480
do something like that, I just do it. So I

659
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:54,360
go outside and I drew this pentagram on the floor

660
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,199
in impastor. I think it was like a purple color.

661
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,440
So nine o'clock at night, I'm standing there and just

662
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:06,760
above me by the roof, only about twenty feet away,

663
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:13,119
these five UFOs come over in pentagram formation and they're

664
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,679
like very slow. They're like hovering just above my head,

665
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,000
and they're like five discs, and they were they they're

666
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:25,159
the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. There were golden

667
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:31,119
golden orange, so they were like discs that were golden orange,

668
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,480
and they seemed to be hovering just above my head.

669
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,960
They didn't have any dimension, so it just like a

670
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:42,119
kind of like pure light, and they seemed to be spinning,

671
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:46,280
and they just went in front of me and over

672
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:52,079
the pine trees and by the military base. So the

673
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,440
military base plays an important part in my life. I

674
00:43:55,599 --> 00:44:02,320
had I was in my imports imports with New Hampshire

675
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:07,639
that was a military base to do with nuclear nuclear warheads.

676
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,199
And now I'm near a military base here and the

677
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,679
UFOs disappear near there, and it's on a hill, so

678
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,320
this is on a hill. So I move into the

679
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,440
place I am Now, I move from there to here,

680
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:33,360
and I'm sitting eleven o'clock at night, and five UFOs

681
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,920
appear near the castle. Because when I'm looking out now,

682
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,519
I can see the castle in my window, and these

683
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:44,760
five UFOs appear in a vertical formation. They one, two, three,

684
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,800
four five. I look at them through by binoculars, and

685
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,679
they look fairly solid, greeny kind of red, and then

686
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,599
they disappear one by one. And then this silver cylinder appears,

687
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:58,239
its big silver cylinder. And I look at the silver

688
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,719
cylinder and they could have gone into the silver cylinder

689
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,679
as a mother ship, but I don't know. And then

690
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,320
I watch it go down towards the ground. It goes

691
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,159
down towards the ground, and it disappears where the military bases.

692
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,480
It seems to go into the ground where the military base,

693
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:19,000
this silver cylinder. That was my last experience in two

694
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:27,960
thousand and eight. So you know, you've got to weigh

695
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:34,119
these things up. You've got to like take all that aboard. Yeah,

696
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:37,119
and you know, why are they doing? You know, you

697
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,719
think of what was the point of that? You know,

698
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:48,360
like I know about UFOs. Why wasn't something more revealed?

699
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,719
If you know what I mean? You know why? Why?

700
00:45:51,039 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: That's why? Because all of the encounters you've had, You've

701
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,440
seemed like you've had a lot. I've had a decent

702
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,639
amount as well. That changed my life. I mean, I'm

703
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:01,880
doing this show, I'm suing this work now because of

704
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,039
these encounters. And you would think that you would have

705
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:10,559
more detail you would know the agenda, you would know

706
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,440
the names. That's why I always always question a lot

707
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,679
of the people who go on shows and they claim

708
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,559
to have it all figured out, like the information is

709
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:23,480
still slippery there. Like, I don't think like people like

710
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:25,679
you're talking about the war between the Draconians and the

711
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,199
Palladians and the you know, Orian Council of Light are

712
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,519
here to do this. People seem to have a lot

713
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:35,199
of info in for as much encounters that You've had

714
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,760
and I've had, I would feel like I could tell that,

715
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,679
you know, you're telling the truth. Some of these people,

716
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,320
I don't. I think there's a lot of people who

717
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,320
are just kind of making it up and they're selling

718
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,159
books and they're you know, they have an agenda there,

719
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,599
and it's hard to trust them. Do you feel like

720
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,119
that at all? Too? Without being without being without calling

721
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,239
names or trying to sound harsh, because maybe they do,

722
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:03,599
maybe they have had that kind of contact, But as

723
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:08,280
much contact as I've had, I don't. I can't just

724
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,800
take it and run with it, you know.

725
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 5: Well, you know, in university, I studied philosophy and comparative religion,

726
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,519
and I spent time in a Christian monastery. I met

727
00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:27,000
Lama's I met Christiana Murty was quite a famous guru.

728
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:32,079
I had very important experiences with him on a kind

729
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:37,679
of transcendental level, etc. Now, the point is that you know,

730
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:42,800
where's the ground? The thing I ask in all of

731
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,880
this kind of phenomenon, where is the ground is? You know,

732
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:51,199
like you said, the Bible, is it Buddhism. But you see,

733
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,760
what we call religion is like a hijack. I see,

734
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:03,159
religion is a hijack of in Jesus, for example, Buddha

735
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,559
and Jesus, nobody knows the background. They appeared on the scene.

736
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:10,000
They came out of nowhere on the world scene, on

737
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:16,079
the world stage. Jesus at thirty the Buddha at thirty six. Right,

738
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:19,639
they just appear out of nowhere. And they have a

739
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,599
small following of family friends. It's interesting, both of them

740
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:28,800
had family friends and a few intimates. Right, So that

741
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:32,440
was their first little circle with family friends. So they

742
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:36,599
must have been in the vicinity of their home. Now,

743
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:40,880
it's interesting. There's a very famous yogi. The most famous

744
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,679
yogi of Tibetan Buddhism is Miller Reaper. And Miller Reaper

745
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,039
his father died and the uncle took over the property

746
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:55,920
and they just swindled the mother and the son out

747
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,440
of the property. So the mother sent him away to

748
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:03,679
be trained as a as a magician. And he was

749
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,599
trained as a magician, and he had the power to

750
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:14,159
bring hailstones. He could create hailstones. He and he hailed,

751
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:19,599
he hailed the house where his uncle was living, and

752
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:25,039
it just absolutely smashed it to pieces. I remember reading

753
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:28,679
that because at that very moment the hail came down

754
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:34,679
in the middle of the summer outside. Really it was wow, man,

755
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,960
it just came right down. Yeah, I would think so

756
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:42,360
Miller Reaper, what he did was he gave up being

757
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,760
a magician. He came back to his hometown, he took

758
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,360
up residents in a cave, and then he became enlightened.

759
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:55,760
He became like he became part of a Buddha, you know,

760
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,480
part of the not the buddher, but he took on

761
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:01,800
the characteristics of the buddh. So I'm saying there's a

762
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:09,360
connection between you know, being grounded where your home is.

763
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:13,719
It's quite literal, you know, it's quite literal. You're not

764
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,039
with some like Christian Murty for example, and a lot

765
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:20,480
of these gurus, they create a set live in the

766
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:26,039
middle of nowhere, disconnected from everything, and live in this

767
00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:29,519
fantasy world. It is a fantasy world.

768
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has no tangible power. It definitely is. It's

769
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,480
just theory grounded.

770
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 5: It's not grounded in knowledge. It's not grounded in books,

771
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:42,599
is not grounded in study. Now all my experiences are

772
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:49,039
grounded in study. I studied everything going back to ancient Egypt,

773
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,719
and I believe I've discovered a kind of Egyptian template.

774
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,760
And it took twelve years, between two thousand and eleven

775
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:06,440
to two thousand and three to twenty fourteen, I published

776
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:10,920
nine books. I've published nine books, and they contained all

777
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,400
the knowledge I gained out of my life on this planet.

778
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:19,519
And I closed the book. So I no longer read books.

779
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:23,159
I no longer take in information. I've closed the book.

780
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,880
And now I'm learning to live. I'm learning to like live,

781
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:30,360
if you know what I mean. I lived, I lived

782
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,280
in the medium of knowledge. Now now I'm not saying

783
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,880
I'm trying to be wise, but I'm learning to be wise.

784
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, to what's going on, Well, I think I'll kind

785
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,800
of look at it. I'm very similar situation where I

786
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,159
don't I don't do much reading either, like people send

787
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,079
me all types of videos and they want I've had

788
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,719
some some of Jordan Max's some of Jordan Maxwell's people

789
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,280
offer to send me extra and of hord drives like

790
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,960
for Terraby to videos and documentaries and information. I don't

791
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,679
want it, like I'm I'm I'm kind of like you.

792
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,280
As far as like trying to and this is where

793
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,000
I put it, asking for wisdom on how to share

794
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,960
the knowledge that we've already studied. How can we bring

795
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:18,920
this into practical experience for ourselves and for people to

796
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,599
better the world around us. And so as far as

797
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:25,239
like digging and reading and studying and researches. Now, I'm

798
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,880
all for experience. I love having a spiritual encounter. But

799
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,440
as far as like just trying to dig to get

800
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,599
to the bottom of it, I've seen so much as

801
00:52:33,639 --> 00:52:36,039
it is, So it's like asking for the wisdom on

802
00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:39,159
how to share the knowledge. Is that does that ring true?

803
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 5: Well? Yeah, I'll go into that now. Right, the world

804
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,480
around us, what we call society, which I've never been

805
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:53,239
a part of, I've never played the game. I've never

806
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,159
played the game. I've never played the mind game, right

807
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,159
of politicians, of people that run institutions, all of that

808
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:09,159
kind of stuff. You know, we're immersed in language, aren't we.

809
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:15,440
Consciousness is like language knowledge language. We're language, we're cultural entities,

810
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:19,400
we're human, we're selves. We're a self that's come into

811
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,679
a body. And what I call consciousness is like a toolkit.

812
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,199
It's a toolkit. There's a reason why we had this toolkit,

813
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,119
and you won't find that reason in a book, because

814
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:38,119
the book itself is the tool is the toolkit. So

815
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:41,960
everyone's got their language. In the family, you've got your

816
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,000
secret language. In the politics, you've got your subrowsa behind

817
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:49,159
closed doors, you've got the secret language in the Masons.

818
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:53,400
Everybody's got their secret language. Right, So the UFO, they've

819
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,679
all got their little pockets of secret language. Right. What

820
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,599
is the language? What? What is this language of the

821
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:08,000
human being? Now see what I mean, we're moving outside

822
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:12,000
of what we think language is to what is language?

823
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,360
What are we supposed to know? We're here? You're here

824
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:21,000
for what one hundred years? Now? We've basically lived to

825
00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:24,719
one hundred years? What are we here for seven billion people?

826
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,360
What on earth are we doing here to go to

827
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:31,519
the moon, to build an AI computer, to paint the

828
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:35,199
Sistine Chapel? To build the pyramids. No, we're not here.

829
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,840
I don't think we're here for that. That's a symbol

830
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,039
of what we're here for. But what are we really

831
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:48,599
here for? That's the wrapping. What's inside the wrapping, That's

832
00:54:48,639 --> 00:54:50,719
what I'm trying to discover. That's what I'm trying to

833
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,320
open up.

834
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,599
Speaker 3: Now, do you do you feel like this is some

835
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:59,199
type of testing ground? What are you seeing of right

836
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,360
and wrong and trying to figure things out? And almost

837
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,119
like you know, the life of the life you live

838
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,480
determines the place that you spind eternity if you want

839
00:55:08,519 --> 00:55:08,920
to call it that.

840
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,119
Speaker 5: Well, you see, you can talk about the planetary faces

841
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,320
and calma and character and type. So we're all types.

842
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:20,519
I'm an artist, I'm a poet, I'm a philosopher. I

843
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:26,559
can be all those types. Right, that's the entity, Reptilians

844
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:32,320
of types, Nordica type, all these types. They all embody,

845
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,840
language and knowledge, don't they. They're all sharing. They want

846
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,760
you to buy into that knowledge, buy into this knowledge,

847
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,360
by this brand, by this this right. And I'm saying

848
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:52,199
that people have their concept of a secret language. People

849
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,159
want to think they've got some real, you know, real language.

850
00:55:57,639 --> 00:55:59,920
They mean what they say they're telling the truth. They

851
00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:02,760
really mean what they say. But if you don't have

852
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,480
the truth, how can you speak the truth? What is

853
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:12,639
the truth? No, so my question is I'm seventy three.

854
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:20,000
The other day my chest right question mark is at

855
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:24,719
my age now wisdom is true? If wisdom is truth,

856
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:28,280
what is that truth? And who's going to reveal it?

857
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:34,320
Cem entity or is there a Buddha in Jesus? You see?

858
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,239
Who were Buddha? Where did they come from? What did

859
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,880
they discover in their cave, in their temple, in their whatever?

860
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,559
And why did they come on alone? Why were they

861
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,639
alone when they came on the world stage. You know,

862
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,760
they appear to be alone, and yet immediately the family's

863
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,480
there and the few people are there. It's very interesting

864
00:56:54,639 --> 00:57:00,840
kind of conundrum because they're coming. They're coming out of nowhere,

865
00:57:02,639 --> 00:57:05,519
which means something. I think it like Nirvana. You know,

866
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,920
Nirvana is supposed to be empty, and yet you have

867
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:12,880
a diamond body. You have a diamond body, you have

868
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,440
a body of wisdom, the darma kayah, and yet it's

869
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:23,280
supposed to be empty. And the Tibetan Buddhists say, nirvana

870
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,840
isn't the end. You don't just get enlightened and sit

871
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,840
in no man's land. That's only the beginning. You're you're

872
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,880
a free individual. You've dropped your karma, you drop your conditioning,

873
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:39,079
you drop your whatever, and now you can be a

874
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:42,880
free human being and travel the dimensions. That's what they say,

875
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,440
whereas a lot of Buddhists say, no, you get you

876
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:49,880
know Zen Buddhism, you get so tory and that's the

877
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:53,119
end of the journey. You've finished. But in Tibetan Buddhies

878
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:56,800
and you're only beginning with your body of wisdom. It's

879
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,920
not like you're at the end and you pack everything in.

880
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:06,000
You're only beginning the journey, which is eternity. So we've

881
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:11,840
got this paradox between infinity. We live in an infinite universe,

882
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:17,320
and yet we've got this concept of eternity, the circle,

883
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,880
the One, the unknown God, the invisible God, and that

884
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:26,639
power that I talked about. I did experience that I've had.

885
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,039
I've experienced that. I wrote it in my book The

886
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:33,920
One Mind three Months of being in satory emptiness Nirvana.

887
00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:35,239
I have experience.

888
00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:39,199
Speaker 3: After you've experienced that, you walk around with the heightened

889
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:43,559
sense of awareness. Right for some times, the things you see,

890
00:58:43,639 --> 00:58:44,920
like you said, you felt like you was in a

891
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,679
dream state, like that things were different. You looked at things,

892
00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:51,639
they seem different in your consciousness was shifted. I've known

893
00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:55,079
people who they would vibrate their bodies, would they would

894
00:58:55,079 --> 00:58:57,360
get I think what they call in in the Hindu

895
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,360
tradition kreas where their body they would get these of

896
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:03,840
energy throughout the day in their body. I knew guys

897
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:09,360
in mid conversation which starts shaking, you know from an

898
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,079
encounter that they had a week ago, and they're still

899
00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:16,159
vibrating off of that frequency from that experience.

900
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that would be one of the seven chakras.

901
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:21,320
You see. But if you go out through the hole

902
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,320
in your head, you go out, then you're in this emptiness.

903
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:27,320
I mean, I looked how when I had that experience

904
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,679
of the thousand pedaled lotus, my perception what they call

905
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,119
consciousness transference in the Tibetan in the secret doctrine of

906
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:38,920
the Tibetans. And I looked, how so I did see

907
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,519
the infinity. I did see something, and I came back in.

908
00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:47,199
But where I am now, where I'm sitting in this

909
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,760
room now, I had in two thy fifteen, I had

910
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,119
a three month experience, and I used to I kept

911
00:59:55,199 --> 00:59:59,639
a journal every day, a diary every day. And although

912
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:02,119
the world around me was the same, you know, like

913
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,280
just sitting in this room looking outside at the castle,

914
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:09,760
it wasn't the same world. But it wasn't the gothic world.

915
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,480
It wasn't the shadow world. You know, it wasn't like

916
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:20,440
the magical world. It was it was like purity. It

917
01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:24,599
was like a pure space, so that when I when

918
01:00:24,639 --> 01:00:26,960
I look at the room now and the outside it's

919
01:00:27,039 --> 01:00:29,920
lit up, you know, the light and the sky is

920
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,119
all lit up, so you have light and space. But

921
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:39,760
this but being in Satori Nirvana, it's not that space.

922
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,840
It's not time and space. It's around it. It's like

923
01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:50,920
it's like there's a different dimension of space that isn't

924
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,679
bound to time and space and it and it doesn't

925
01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:58,639
have a limit, so it's not like limited by the

926
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:05,800
trees or the sky or anything material. And that's that

927
01:01:06,159 --> 01:01:08,840
That would be the same as I experienced before what

928
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:13,000
I called the power. You know, so before I wasn't

929
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:17,000
ready for the power, but it's given it me in

930
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:21,639
small doses. It's not the power like Buddha was connected

931
01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:22,639
to the power.

932
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 3: It's an expression of that power. Would you say that, Yeah, it's.

933
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 5: Not a symbol, it's not in my psyche, it's not

934
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:31,079
in my.

935
01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:34,639
Speaker 3: It's a lesser it's a lesser form like the Chicaina

936
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,360
with the Hebrews were called the chicaino glory. A tangible presence,

937
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,559
but not the presence itself, almost just like beholding a

938
01:01:42,719 --> 01:01:45,920
piece of it. Like you said, talking about the reflection

939
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:48,320
of the moon and seeing that image, which is the

940
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,519
light of the sun expressed through the moon, and we

941
01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:53,280
get we get that light and you walk with that

942
01:01:53,679 --> 01:01:55,320
because many people say that if you was to go

943
01:01:55,519 --> 01:01:59,000
directly to the supreme power, that you would surely die.

944
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:00,639
I mean, we look at the art at a covenant

945
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,440
which carried the presence of God, and if anybody touched

946
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,880
it who wasn't worthy, they would instantly die. I mean.

947
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:12,239
And even having that strong encounter from an expression of

948
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,320
the source was so profound.

949
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:23,679
Speaker 5: There's more, right, Yeah, So you know the concept of

950
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,159
the One in the Egyptian model, the concepts of the

951
01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:30,320
One folth he's not in the universe. He's the grand

952
01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:33,480
architect of the Masons. He's the Grand Architect, right, So

953
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:37,800
he doesn't really exist as we call it in this universe.

954
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:42,719
He's not in existence and it's just a principle called

955
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,400
the one. But you could say the one is nirvana,

956
01:02:45,559 --> 01:02:49,719
it's the one mind. It's empty, it's nothing, because when

957
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:54,119
you're approaching it through knowledge or cultural science, it really

958
01:02:54,239 --> 01:02:57,440
is nothing. So what's what's beg before the Big Bang?

959
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:04,079
Or nothing? But it's not nothing. Yeah, it's not nothing

960
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:09,199
compared to something. It's not the corollary of something. The

961
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,920
scientists want something else, don't they. They want to kind

962
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,159
of like the mind of God, you know, the god gene,

963
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,480
what they call the god gene particle. Yeah, but you see,

964
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,559
Navana isn't that kind of nothing? It's not that it's

965
01:03:24,679 --> 01:03:28,480
here right now. The nothing is actually here right now.

966
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:31,079
I'm talking to you, and I'm very much in my

967
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,280
consciousness using language, but I'm also aware of that of

968
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:36,400
the emptiness.

969
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,199
Speaker 3: I think that's where meditation comes in. I think that's

970
01:03:41,239 --> 01:03:43,400
where meditation comes in, that we are able to kind

971
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,920
of shut everything down and kind of go back to

972
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,360
that essence, get a glimpse of it, to kind of

973
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,119
take it with us, to kind of remind us who

974
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:52,920
we are, where we came from. One thing, I wanted

975
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,480
to talk to you about. Is the importance I think

976
01:03:56,239 --> 01:03:59,320
of stargazing. You said that when you were having some

977
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:04,639
encounter stargazing, gazing into Orion, and then things would happen.

978
01:04:05,719 --> 01:04:08,519
People ask me, you know, how do I have more synchronicities?

979
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,320
How do I get on the spiritual path?

980
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 5: What do I do?

981
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,159
Speaker 3: The three things I tell them is begin reading literature,

982
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,480
reading books that are about people who have had encounters

983
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:22,119
like that or some of the information that's come before us.

984
01:04:22,239 --> 01:04:25,840
I say, read, spend time in meditation and in prayer

985
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,480
to kind of reflect on what you're reading and touch

986
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:30,760
the divine, kind of get with that source of energy.

987
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:36,320
And stargazing, I always tell them stargazing. For me, that's

988
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,360
just like that communication. I've spent hours stargazing, and like you,

989
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:45,440
I've gazed into Orion and seen starships and seen entities

990
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,320
coming in and out of Orion, or just being focused

991
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,320
and then out of the peripheral other beings will come

992
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,800
into play and begin to see all of this stuff.

993
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,559
Just by simply quieting down and gazing at the stars.

994
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:07,320
There's something to that. Are you there, David, or did

995
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,960
you lock up? You might have locked up? Okay, okay,

996
01:05:15,199 --> 01:05:17,199
so what would you say is the power of stargazing?

997
01:05:17,239 --> 01:05:20,440
Are we making connection when we do that? I mean

998
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:23,840
that with the entities who dwell in that star system.

999
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,719
I mean what's going on when we gaze into Orion

1000
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,599
or we gaze into you know what I'm saying, the ampliades,

1001
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,639
and we feel energy, we feel downloads. I feel I've

1002
01:05:33,679 --> 01:05:35,880
been I've gazed so intently before. I felt like I

1003
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,079
was being sucked out of my body in it. I

1004
01:05:38,159 --> 01:05:40,360
had to catch myself, you know, and it scared me,

1005
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:40,920
it really did.

1006
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had that experience looking. You know that there's

1007
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,599
a meadow in Oxford Denies to go to this big

1008
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,679
meadow and just lie down, and I felt I'd be

1009
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,280
taken out of my body, which again you know, I've

1010
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,599
not happened. It's not happened to me. I think it's

1011
01:05:57,639 --> 01:06:01,960
a matter of orientation, you know, if you're a spiritual

1012
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:08,000
person that they call that that in Gerd Jeff's term,

1013
01:06:08,159 --> 01:06:10,800
the guy called Burd Jeff, he calls it the magnetic

1014
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:17,480
center in alchemy, and you call it the loadstone. It's

1015
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:22,400
a magnetic stone. And as I say, the pole stars

1016
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,119
are magnetic stars. So you know, it's a ligne to

1017
01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:30,960
the Earth's axis. It's a line there. So the very

1018
01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:33,800
first pyramid to step Pyramid, which a lot of my

1019
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,840
works based on, have had certain things revealed to me.

1020
01:06:37,639 --> 01:06:41,320
But that's a line to the pole star Draco. So

1021
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:45,480
it's an alignment. It's like you're aligning, like the lay line,

1022
01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:49,760
the dragon path, the Tao being in the dow being, synchronicity,

1023
01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:53,719
what they call the law of correspondences, the sympathy of

1024
01:06:53,840 --> 01:07:00,840
all things. It's being intimate, you know, it's like feeling intimately.

1025
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,519
You know, if you go for a walk and there's

1026
01:07:02,599 --> 01:07:06,519
birds and trees or your or people, you like, it's

1027
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:10,360
an intimacy. I think that's a very important spiritual quality.

1028
01:07:11,079 --> 01:07:19,880
Is like intimacy, Being receptive, you know, connected, Yeah, connected

1029
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:25,920
is it's vulnerable, being vulnerable as well. Because vulnerable you

1030
01:07:26,039 --> 01:07:28,960
can you think, if you're open to people, open to well,

1031
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:33,920
you can be hurt because you're vulnerable. And in a way,

1032
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:39,639
you know, the terrible aspect of the Godhead, which is

1033
01:07:39,719 --> 01:07:43,480
the Numanus, the terrible aspect of the god Head. You know,

1034
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:48,440
even the evil aspect is part of it is part

1035
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,800
of the drama, you know. So I've never closed off

1036
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,280
you know, I've not dabbled or anything in magic in

1037
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:03,840
that way, but I'm saying that when you're being intimate, yes,

1038
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,800
you can be a bit afraid. Of course, your instincts

1039
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,079
you're afraid, and you want a good experience, and you know,

1040
01:08:11,159 --> 01:08:15,840
you've got a whole kind of cornucopia of reactions. But

1041
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,239
if you've got the right intention, if you've got the

1042
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:21,840
right intention and you're building on something, there's got to

1043
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,920
be something there. You've got to have confidence in yourself

1044
01:08:26,039 --> 01:08:31,239
that there's something there in yourself. You know, it's got

1045
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:35,640
to be a place. Hasn't there a place you can

1046
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,840
go to in yourself? And that's what meditation is is

1047
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:46,479
meditation is really a communion with the spirit. So if

1048
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,600
you're in communion with the spirit, the world opens itself

1049
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,960
to you. That's how I would describe it. I've never

1050
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:55,439
meditated myself, but.

1051
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 3: If you're stargaze and I think there's a form of meditation, yeah.

1052
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm saying if you you know, if you're an

1053
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:06,199
artist and you go into the studio and there's a

1054
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:10,920
blank canvas, yeah, that moment, that's the nirvana. That's the

1055
01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:14,960
white room in the way, that's the white square. Nirvana, emptiness.

1056
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,560
Have you got the have you got the energy, the courage,

1057
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,960
the confidence to make a mark? You know? And like

1058
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:26,640
the cave paintings, they went in there, didn't they And

1059
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,359
they made the mark. They scratched and made the mark.

1060
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,760
So I'm saying that, you know, being open and what

1061
01:09:35,079 --> 01:09:38,520
I would call the act of creation, that there are

1062
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,720
always acts of creation. Synchronicity is u first, the acts

1063
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,960
of creation. They're coming out of actual creation. They're coming

1064
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,920
out of nothing, what we call nothing, which the scientists

1065
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,640
don't believe in, but we know, we know it's real.

1066
01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:58,640
And once you've had one experience, then you've got it,

1067
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,199
haven't you. Once you I've had one thing.

1068
01:10:02,079 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: It's enough to start it. It's enough to get bit

1069
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,920
by the bug. You get bit, the bug bites it.

1070
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, but once you've got it, it's not going to

1071
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:12,600
go away.

1072
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it ever.

1073
01:10:16,079 --> 01:10:16,279
Speaker 2: Does.

1074
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 3: Some people turn it off, you know, people that we

1075
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:25,960
get busy. You know, things happen, consciousness shift, things change.

1076
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,920
I don't. I wish I did, Like I wish I

1077
01:10:29,319 --> 01:10:31,760
still had as many encounters as I used to. It's

1078
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,319
been a while since I've had a profound UFO encounter.

1079
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,000
And I was at a place where I was having

1080
01:10:37,079 --> 01:10:41,159
them daily, like making contact daily. Now it's like I'm

1081
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:44,279
reflecting on what the hell was it? Like what is it?

1082
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,960
And uh, you know, and trying to talk to people

1083
01:10:47,039 --> 01:10:49,359
and stuff, and then the information and knowledge from the

1084
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,600
research and even from the meditation or seeing the UFO.

1085
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,520
It's not just about seeing something. I think people see

1086
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,520
stuff all the time, but communicating with it, connecting with

1087
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,399
it and getting downloads of information and energy. That's a

1088
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,640
whole other level. That's a whole nother thing that we're

1089
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,479
bringing to the table.

1090
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:08,119
Speaker 5: And so.

1091
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,279
Speaker 3: It's not about continuing to have the experience, it's about

1092
01:11:13,319 --> 01:11:15,279
dissecting it and what does it mean to you. I

1093
01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:17,880
think it's a I think it's a disservice just to

1094
01:11:18,079 --> 01:11:21,880
keep wanting more. I want another one. I want another experience.

1095
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,079
I want to see something else. Like you've been privileged

1096
01:11:24,119 --> 01:11:26,560
to see so much, you have to do something with

1097
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,439
the information. I mean there's people you know who like

1098
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,520
chase after psychics and profits and stuff like that, and

1099
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,920
I used to do that. Go to services where you

1100
01:11:35,039 --> 01:11:38,119
want someone to speak over you a prophetic word about

1101
01:11:38,119 --> 01:11:40,920
your life, and then the next week you want somebody

1102
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,159
else to do it, and you're just chasing this versus

1103
01:11:43,319 --> 01:11:46,600
like or even with the psychedelic experience. You want all

1104
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,000
of these psychedelic experiences, but you haven't done the work.

1105
01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:53,199
And the information that has come through, you have to

1106
01:11:53,319 --> 01:11:56,119
dissect it and apply it to your life to go deeper.

1107
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,960
That's what's working for me. I've had those encounters and

1108
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,600
I'm trying to make the changes in the adjustments to

1109
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,680
my life. And when I do, the information that comes

1110
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,800
through has been profound. It's been life changing. About like

1111
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,359
you said, something, whether you want to call it God

1112
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,239
or the universe or the ets or whatever, it's something

1113
01:12:15,279 --> 01:12:17,880
that's watching over us. It's communicating with us, and it

1114
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,600
has an agenda or a path for us, like a

1115
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,359
life purpose, to affect people, to bring about good, to

1116
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:26,600
bring about change. And I've seen it in my own

1117
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,760
life and I think it's very tangible and it's very beautiful.

1118
01:12:31,279 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. All right, So we're in the body, right, we're born.

1119
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:37,840
You know, we're in a body. We don't have much

1120
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,199
memory of what happened before. So we're in the body

1121
01:12:42,359 --> 01:12:46,039
and we're a self. So seven billion people with selves

1122
01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:49,159
in bodies, right, and we've got this tool kit consciousness.

1123
01:12:50,119 --> 01:12:56,479
The spirit doesn't connect through consciousness, the spirit connects to you. Right.

1124
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:01,039
So the spiritual awakening is a commune, the one to

1125
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:05,439
one communion, almost self to self in the Buddhist sets

1126
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,880
Hindu sense, the small self with the big self. It's

1127
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,479
self to self. That's what I'm saying. It never goes

1128
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,560
away once that communion, once you've re established connection with

1129
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:17,439
the source.

1130
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:18,239
Speaker 3: The inward dialogue.

1131
01:13:19,159 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, wherever you've come from, as it were, into the body,

1132
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:32,359
you've reconnected, and then consciousness has to do something about it. Right.

1133
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,359
So you've got people that don't have that contact with

1134
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,920
their self or there with God or whatever you want

1135
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,920
to call it, and they live in consciousness, they live

1136
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:43,800
in the matrix, they live in what the buddh Is

1137
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:48,680
called conditioning maya. So they're chasing their own tail. They're

1138
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:53,840
playing themselves. They're not playing an artificial robot chess. You know,

1139
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,680
they're playing the game they're playing. They're really playing their

1140
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:02,039
own mind game. They're playing their that aren't they playing

1141
01:14:02,399 --> 01:14:05,960
against themselves in chess? So we're all playing against ourselves.

1142
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:13,640
And I'm saying that the spiritual awakening, the self to self,

1143
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:19,039
the one to one isn't about consciousness. But we're here,

1144
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:26,279
so we have to you might say, represent that communion

1145
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:33,279
which is without knowledge. We've got to translate it into knowledge.

1146
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,079
So we have what you call genius. So the genius

1147
01:14:38,319 --> 01:14:43,119
translates what he's you know, she's inspired to say, or

1148
01:14:43,359 --> 01:14:47,640
poetry or music. It's come out of nowhere and they

1149
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:52,640
express it. And that direct kind of expression, that creative

1150
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,359
expression is again like an act of creation. It's coming

1151
01:14:56,399 --> 01:15:01,800
out of nowhere. And what happens with the establishment, the authority,

1152
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,760
the people that run the society I caught you know,

1153
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:11,319
it's called cultural capital. They don't love music and love art.

1154
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,960
They want the product, they want the brand to make

1155
01:15:15,039 --> 01:15:20,960
more money, hijack the creative artists. And they have patrons,

1156
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,920
right so you you know, the Vatican's the patron in

1157
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,880
the Renaissance. And then you've got like people, you know,

1158
01:15:29,079 --> 01:15:32,479
paying lip service. Well, I've never bought into that. My

1159
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,239
art nobody has seen. Very few people have seen my

1160
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:39,039
art because I'm not going to play that game, you know.

1161
01:15:39,119 --> 01:15:42,479
And like I'm on Amazon. I published my books on Amazon.

1162
01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:45,479
I put my pictures on Facebook and so forth and

1163
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:49,880
so on, and show a few friends, but I'm not

1164
01:15:50,199 --> 01:15:53,640
going to bow down to any authority that's going to

1165
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:58,399
hijack the meaning of my life. You know, the meaning

1166
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,119
of my life is the being content with the spiritual,

1167
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:05,359
to be creative and to be independent, to be free.

1168
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:10,479
And I'm not going to play that game. I'm not

1169
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,279
going to play against myself because when we play against ourselves.

1170
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 3: We sell yourself out. It's hard to get it back.

1171
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,319
We look at look at Prince, look at his story man,

1172
01:16:19,159 --> 01:16:22,399
you know, and essentially what happened to him and him

1173
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,920
changing his name into a symbol because they owned everything

1174
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,560
that he put out, and they had, you know, they

1175
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,680
they could approve or disprove songs, you know, and maybe

1176
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,880
the stuff he wanted to put out, they wouldn't release it.

1177
01:16:34,279 --> 01:16:36,520
And that's happened with a lot of people having to

1178
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,079
change their message or even selling their story to a network.

1179
01:16:40,119 --> 01:16:42,920
I mean, if we're talking about uthology, let's look at

1180
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,680
the movie Fire in the Sky. You know, what's his name.

1181
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,119
He sold his story and they totally misrepresented it and

1182
01:16:51,359 --> 01:16:53,640
it made it like a horror movie essentially, when it

1183
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,640
was something in the end beautiful. And he's working he's

1184
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,680
working out there now doing the circuits to a kind

1185
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:04,520
of un do what that movie has done, you know, Yeah,

1186
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:07,640
and they want to change it. So I talked to

1187
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,840
James Gillilan too, and he's one who of who's out

1188
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,920
there on the front lines of the contact the experiences

1189
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,880
and initiating contact as well. And and he's been approached

1190
01:17:18,119 --> 01:17:20,960
to sell his story but he won't because they try

1191
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,920
to put the horror bend on it. That genre set cells.

1192
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,720
I mean, there's you know, I went and seen a

1193
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,439
horror movie the other day, but it was good. There

1194
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,319
was an awesome message in it about psychic abilities. I've

1195
01:17:31,359 --> 01:17:34,840
seen the new Insidious movie and uh took my daughter

1196
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,359
to see it. It is horror because there's jump scares

1197
01:17:37,399 --> 01:17:40,039
and stuff like that, But as far as they did

1198
01:17:40,079 --> 01:17:42,479
a really good job in that movie of tying in

1199
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,279
receiving messages from the other world, of being a psychic

1200
01:17:46,359 --> 01:17:50,680
and and being downtroded and abused by your parents and

1201
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,720
laughed at, but still seeking after that. So there, so

1202
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,319
they're like, there's people now with that art and creativity,

1203
01:17:56,359 --> 01:18:00,439
they're still tying these beautiful messages in with the genre.

1204
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,760
I think. I think like entertainment is so powerful. I

1205
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,359
do music about my art and my experiences. I'm taking

1206
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,560
these really delicate spiritual encounters and putting them in a

1207
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,520
song and trying to articulate it in a way that

1208
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:19,479
it sounds intriguing in it and it almost builds an

1209
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,600
altar or a monument of these encounters that I've had

1210
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,479
and other people, you know, well, I talk about reading,

1211
01:18:26,039 --> 01:18:30,439
reading books and information, listening to music that promotes this

1212
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,039
type of stuff, a lot of stuff. So other people

1213
01:18:34,319 --> 01:18:38,520
who are listening to my songs about my encounters, they're

1214
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:44,399
finding themselves having these encounters with UFOs and spirits and

1215
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,560
meditation and things like that. So something with the synchronicity,

1216
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,159
everything ties together, you know, once you start giving your

1217
01:18:52,199 --> 01:18:54,960
attention to it, you start noticing it and everything, and

1218
01:18:55,119 --> 01:18:58,920
something's guiding you, something's leading you to everything you're doing.

1219
01:18:59,039 --> 01:19:01,560
Some people never realize as that though. Some people are

1220
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,680
just on that study mode and they never come to

1221
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:09,840
this inward knowing that it's about spirituality, it's about treating

1222
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,800
others well. They just they want knowledge, they want to

1223
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,840
have the information, but there's no connection to the spirit

1224
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,079
realm there at all for them.

1225
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a matter of networking, isn't it.

1226
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: You know, it's supernatural networking because you've.

1227
01:19:27,279 --> 01:19:30,159
Speaker 5: Got the may Tricks. I've never I've never seen the

1228
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:33,159
may I don't watch films, but yeah, I've not seen

1229
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:33,960
the may Tricks.

1230
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 3: When you you know the concept.

1231
01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the obviously they're talking about the prison planet

1232
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,159
and AI is something something.

1233
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 3: Is kind of it's talking about Maya too. You know,

1234
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,399
the veil of the you know, the unseen realm that

1235
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,159
or this realm that we see is just a shadow

1236
01:19:53,279 --> 01:19:56,159
and it's just kind of not real. You know, it's

1237
01:19:56,239 --> 01:19:58,880
the world to come. That's uh, that's the real world.

1238
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know the things that we see

1239
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,880
around us, what we call history and even the pyramids.

1240
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,920
You know, again, it's a language. I mean, in the end,

1241
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:17,560
everything in consciousness is a language, and everything's coded what

1242
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:23,159
I call the symbolic code. And in the world when

1243
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:26,239
we go to university and go to go to school

1244
01:20:26,319 --> 01:20:29,199
and all of that, that's one kind of code. There's

1245
01:20:29,239 --> 01:20:34,760
a propaganda and indoctrination and that kind of conditioning. And

1246
01:20:35,119 --> 01:20:37,840
so you've got that level of programming, which is what

1247
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,479
we see on the television and what we call society.

1248
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:44,640
But there's a meta programming like say the Bible. You know,

1249
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,039
you've got a person Jesus and some people going around

1250
01:20:48,119 --> 01:20:51,720
in their local city or town or something like that.

1251
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,640
And then you've got this secret code. You've got this

1252
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:03,680
meta programming, this mythic, symbolic, magical language kind of in there.

1253
01:21:05,119 --> 01:21:08,840
And you know, looking at it, if you just look

1254
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,760
at it, like the Bible or any other text, the

1255
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,960
Book of the Dead, the Egyptian Book of the Dead,

1256
01:21:15,279 --> 01:21:17,880
it's just a riddle. It's like the riddle of the Sphinx.

1257
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:23,279
I mean, it's just a very very com complicated, very

1258
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,800
messy it's a very messy language. No, when you read

1259
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:33,640
poetry in a way, it's not easy for the conscious mind.

1260
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,119
When you read poetry, the contract you've got to switch.

1261
01:21:37,079 --> 01:21:39,279
You've got to go from the conscious mind, which is

1262
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,479
like ego based and controlling everything. You've got to let go.

1263
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:46,600
You've got to kind of go fall into the poetry,

1264
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:51,039
don't you. You fall into the music, and you've got

1265
01:21:51,159 --> 01:21:55,960
to navigate. So there is a kind of secret code

1266
01:21:56,039 --> 01:22:00,560
within yourself. You can navigate this dark night of the

1267
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,880
souldest matrix and whatever you want to call it. And

1268
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:11,479
as I say, it's it's like my first memory, my

1269
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:17,439
very first memory at two years old is looking at

1270
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:22,279
a red fire engine. Right, So my favorite toy was

1271
01:22:22,359 --> 01:22:25,359
a red fire engine. So my memory is just looking

1272
01:22:25,399 --> 01:22:31,359
at this red fire engine and somebody something revealed that

1273
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:35,560
to me and I interpret that as the chariot of fire.

1274
01:22:37,239 --> 01:22:40,439
So the fire engine becomes the charity fire, the Charter

1275
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,680
to five becomes the UFO. So at the age of

1276
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,359
four years no, I have this seeming abduction. So I'm

1277
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:55,600
saying that, you know, your life story is encoded meta

1278
01:22:55,680 --> 01:23:00,439
program with mythology and symbol and magic, and it's making

1279
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,880
the connection. You know, you could live your whole life

1280
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,279
and not reflect on that level, but it's there. It's

1281
01:23:07,319 --> 01:23:10,720
actually there. You know, the flowers in the garden, or

1282
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,359
maybe your father, like my father used to read detective

1283
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:19,159
books and cowboy, you know, that kind of American polk fiction.

1284
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:27,239
You know, it could be anything that contains this symbolic

1285
01:23:27,399 --> 01:23:31,760
knowledge for you. And yet you could live your whole

1286
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,399
life and not realize that something in your front room

1287
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,399
when you were a child, or some person you met

1288
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,199
or someplace you went to there was something telling you something,

1289
01:23:42,279 --> 01:23:45,319
but you just didn't see it. You just didn't like listen.

1290
01:23:48,359 --> 01:23:52,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's so true. That's a fear, and

1291
01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:55,319
I think that's that's what you always want people to

1292
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,920
experience what you haven't experienced, an encounter. You want everybody

1293
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,560
to know what you know. I mean, just look at vegetarians,

1294
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,399
Look at vegans. You know they've got the answer. They

1295
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,760
found the antidote, and then they're gonna go around and

1296
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,199
tell everybody everyone and proselytize. And even with you know,

1297
01:24:10,399 --> 01:24:13,079
Christians or any type of religion, you're gonna go out

1298
01:24:13,119 --> 01:24:14,960
and say, hey, I have the truth. You need to

1299
01:24:15,079 --> 01:24:18,800
know this what I know. And so essentially what we're

1300
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,119
doing just kind of having this conversation sharing the stories.

1301
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,600
For many people that already rings true, they've already had

1302
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,760
that inward knowing, that self reflection. And for those who haven't,

1303
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,479
it's available. We're just letting them know that it's there.

1304
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,760
And it's just sad that that people never encounter that.

1305
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,000
I mean, I have family members who you know, who've

1306
01:24:40,039 --> 01:24:41,720
had a hard life. You know, I've had a hard

1307
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,520
life too, but just to see them still continue to

1308
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:50,479
go on that path, that destructive path, when the path

1309
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:55,079
of goodness is there too, like this self realization, learning

1310
01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:58,199
from your mistakes, learning from the mistakes of others. All

1311
01:24:58,239 --> 01:25:01,640
of it's there, but some of them will never experience that.

1312
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,079
That's sad to fathom. It's sad to think of. I

1313
01:25:05,159 --> 01:25:08,399
do believe in and happy endings. I do believe that

1314
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,880
we could be happy and experience that, and I want

1315
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,079
that for everyone. But David, I appreciate you coming on

1316
01:25:14,199 --> 01:25:15,279
the show hanging out with me.

1317
01:25:15,399 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 5: Bro.

1318
01:25:16,319 --> 01:25:18,039
Speaker 3: Do you want to share your links where people can

1319
01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:19,520
contact you? I don't. I don't know if you have

1320
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,520
a website, but you've got a lot of interviews that

1321
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,319
you've done. You're also active on Facebook and things like that.

1322
01:25:24,399 --> 01:25:25,640
If you want to share your links out.

1323
01:25:26,359 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got a YouTube channel and you can get

1324
01:25:31,159 --> 01:25:34,720
I think I've got about nine nine a playlist of

1325
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:42,720
nine now on my YouTube channel. I'm on Facebook and Amazon.

1326
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:48,359
My books are on Amazon and my and my email

1327
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:55,439
is David dot sr dot Curtis at outlook dot com.

1328
01:25:57,239 --> 01:25:59,600
And you know you can find me in those places.

1329
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 3: David, I've enjoyed hanging out with you, brother. Well let's

1330
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:03,840
do it again soon if we can.

1331
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 5: Man, Okay, nice seeing you all right?

1332
01:26:07,039 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bro? Yeah, I see you, Bye bye bye,

1333
01:26:11,119 --> 01:26:16,319
David Curtis. Ladies and gentlemen, awesome, good stuff. Enjoyed that

1334
01:26:16,399 --> 01:26:21,439
conversation a lot when we're talking about that stuff. Man,

1335
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,079
just I think just talking about those those experiences, those

1336
01:26:25,359 --> 01:26:28,000
encounters and stuff like that, I think that it's part

1337
01:26:28,039 --> 01:26:30,720
of what initiates it. We're talking about people who want

1338
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,720
to have those encounters in their life. We're talking about

1339
01:26:35,279 --> 01:26:37,760
how do you do it stargazing. There's something that's that's

1340
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,880
connected there. Thank you guys for hanging out with me.

1341
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,520
I'm gonna try to get to some of these questions

1342
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,800
here in the chat room. Phone lines are open. If

1343
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,039
anybody wants to call in, feel free to use that

1344
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:52,479
technology that we have. But let's see. So Ray asked

1345
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,479
me a while ago, I did see that come by

1346
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,159
in the chat. You asked me if I've ever done

1347
01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:58,760
Steven Greer's meditation.

1348
01:26:59,159 --> 01:26:59,399
Speaker 5: I have.

1349
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 3: It's a good meditation. We used to do that CE

1350
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:09,439
five initiative meditation before going out to stargates and trying

1351
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,840
to make contact. We'd kind of get in that heightened

1352
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,439
state of awareness, and I remember doing it with a

1353
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:16,640
friend of mine out in the field. We were sitting

1354
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,520
in a vehicle first and getting relaxed get into the

1355
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,800
meditative state before we went into that meditation, and I

1356
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,920
know it was so funny because you can tell like

1357
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,159
he was reading, and then you could tell that he

1358
01:27:28,399 --> 01:27:30,479
was turning the pages, and so there was just we

1359
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,479
always laugh. We'd hear him breathe, and then it was

1360
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,479
just so raw and he's reading and you can hear

1361
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,920
the pages of his book that he's reading his meditation

1362
01:27:40,079 --> 01:27:43,399
out of. It was just hilarious. But that's my memories

1363
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,000
of doing the CE five meditation from Stephen Greer. But

1364
01:27:46,119 --> 01:27:50,720
we definitely did do that. Christy folks, she asked earlier.

1365
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,119
She says she wants to be a part of what

1366
01:27:53,239 --> 01:27:55,199
we're doing with the School of the Mystics, but she

1367
01:27:56,119 --> 01:27:58,359
isn't able to do it on Thursday nights. There's a

1368
01:27:58,399 --> 01:28:00,199
lot of people. I've been getting this message a lot,

1369
01:28:00,199 --> 01:28:02,000
a lot of people who support a lot of people

1370
01:28:02,039 --> 01:28:03,680
who want to be a part of what we're doing

1371
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,319
on Thursday nights, but they can't because of the job

1372
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,319
or you know, the family things going on, and when

1373
01:28:08,359 --> 01:28:11,239
they have time to kind of get away, it's during

1374
01:28:11,359 --> 01:28:15,159
work hours listening to the podcast driving whatever the case is.

1375
01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:18,960
So I wasn't gonna record those because they've been really

1376
01:28:19,039 --> 01:28:21,680
candid and stuff and personal, but I'm gonna record them

1377
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,039
and they're gonna be available for the patrons, so it'll

1378
01:28:25,079 --> 01:28:28,000
be in the patron section essentially, because we're doing a

1379
01:28:28,079 --> 01:28:32,640
course and if anybody comes in at any time in

1380
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:37,880
the course, maybe we have, you know, five sessions under

1381
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,720
our belt, you can go back and listen to them.

1382
01:28:40,079 --> 01:28:42,840
They're going to be really short sessions that we're doing

1383
01:28:43,119 --> 01:28:46,239
with the teachings anywhere short. So we're gonna do the

1384
01:28:46,279 --> 01:28:49,399
short teaching of the course and then we're gonna do

1385
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:54,000
the Q and A and the group discussion that's in

1386
01:28:54,359 --> 01:28:58,800
the book. So it's about starting the profetic ministry and

1387
01:28:59,159 --> 01:29:03,119
a lot of it it's basics for me, elementary stuff,

1388
01:29:03,159 --> 01:29:04,960
but I think it's good to brush up on elementary

1389
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,119
stuff even for me, And there could be some things

1390
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,119
I haven't learned because this is somebody else's. Of course,

1391
01:29:11,239 --> 01:29:13,079
there's a bunch of them we could choose from, but

1392
01:29:13,119 --> 01:29:15,600
we're gonna start here and see how it goes. And

1393
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,880
so it's gonna be something that we're building with the

1394
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community Thursday nights at seven pm with the School of

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01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,319
the Mystics, So you'll be able to listen to that

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01:29:23,399 --> 01:29:25,680
at your own leisure. So if you are a patron,

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01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,319
you'll get access to that too. So I wanted to

1398
01:29:28,399 --> 01:29:29,840
make sure I let that know that it will be

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01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:36,000
recorded now. Yeah, man, I've had a pretty interesting week

1400
01:29:36,119 --> 01:29:38,920
this week, guys. I mentioned it at the end of

1401
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:44,199
the last podcast. Man, I don't know. I don't know

1402
01:29:44,319 --> 01:29:46,800
how much to just go in on this. We've been

1403
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,159
talking about this a lot lately. I was on Christy

1404
01:29:49,279 --> 01:29:51,239
Lee's show last night. We talked about it a little bit.

1405
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,439
But just to kind of keep you guys up to speed, like,

1406
01:29:55,039 --> 01:29:59,079
I did a contest for a song. I wrote a song,

1407
01:30:00,159 --> 01:30:02,800
submitted it to this contest that Tark Bibbie put out

1408
01:30:03,279 --> 01:30:05,680
ended up winning first place. It was a theme song.

1409
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:10,520
It was about star seeds who feel misplaced and who

1410
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,279
are going through a rough time on the earth and

1411
01:30:12,359 --> 01:30:14,760
then kind of finding healing or finding their calling in

1412
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,239
the end. So I wrote this song. It's available on

1413
01:30:17,319 --> 01:30:19,520
Patreon as well, you can download it. It's called Scars

1414
01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:24,520
and it's about a girl. It's about a guy going

1415
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:29,720
through life and being an outcast, being rejected, not fitting

1416
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,399
in at school, those type of things. And then he's

1417
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,399
talking about pill addiction and stuff like that. And then

1418
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,920
the second verse is about a girl kind of same experience,

1419
01:30:40,239 --> 01:30:43,119
not fitting in at school, being picked on, made fun of,

1420
01:30:43,239 --> 01:30:46,079
and things like that, and then at the end they

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01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:49,600
find each other. They run away together and they find healing.

1422
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,000
And I sum it up in a song. I did

1423
01:30:52,079 --> 01:30:54,119
that song, put it out there for the contest. I

1424
01:30:54,199 --> 01:30:57,079
won first place. I want a thousand dollars, Praise God.

1425
01:30:57,079 --> 01:30:59,079
It was awesome. It came through it perfect time, right

1426
01:30:59,119 --> 01:31:01,760
when I needed it for bills and that type of stuff.

1427
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,079
So really a god thing that I won. I knew.

1428
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,079
The funny thing is, I knew I was gonna win

1429
01:31:06,199 --> 01:31:08,399
like when I because I woke up with those lyrics

1430
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,560
in my head, like I got the song from spirit.

1431
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,239
So I woke up out of sleep and had these

1432
01:31:14,319 --> 01:31:16,600
lyrics in my head, just the beginning of it to

1433
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:18,640
sit down and do it, and it just started flowing.

1434
01:31:19,279 --> 01:31:23,960
One first place, one guy was upset that I won

1435
01:31:24,279 --> 01:31:27,359
because he submitted a song. The song was not good, Uh,

1436
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,119
his singing was off key, all of this stuff, but

1437
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:33,319
he insisted that he should have been the winner. And

1438
01:31:33,399 --> 01:31:36,000
it got really weird. This guy was messaging me the

1439
01:31:36,079 --> 01:31:38,720
guy who did the contest. Tark had to block this

1440
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,239
guy because he's talking about pressing charge is just crazy stuff.

1441
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,239
This guy who claims that he was supposed to be

1442
01:31:44,319 --> 01:31:46,880
the winner of the contest and the song was bad.

1443
01:31:47,279 --> 01:31:49,560
I wanted to tell him that it was bad. I

1444
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,000
wanted to tell him that he should have got somebody

1445
01:31:52,079 --> 01:31:54,840
else to sing it because he was off key, you know,

1446
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,840
But I didn't. I had the message typed up and

1447
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,279
I was gonna send it to him because he was

1448
01:32:00,359 --> 01:32:03,520
like accusing me or accusing the contest of being rigged,

1449
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,600
and all kind of weird stuff, you know. So that

1450
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:07,680
happened with the contest, and then on top of that,

1451
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,760
a close friend of mine went through some weird psychosis.

1452
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,680
He's been going through this thing for a long time,

1453
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,960
actually doing really weird stuff on social media. I mean,

1454
01:32:16,399 --> 01:32:19,520
going live on Facebook and getting naked, like taking off

1455
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,319
his clothes and saying, America, A stand before you as

1456
01:32:23,359 --> 01:32:26,319
a naked man, naked before you, naked before God. I

1457
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,760
hold nothing back. And he get naked and put the

1458
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,920
camera on his face where you couldn't see it. He's

1459
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,760
sitting there naked on livestream. This dude, he's on drugs

1460
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:36,319
and stuff, and he's a good friend of mine. Man,

1461
01:32:36,359 --> 01:32:39,720
he's got a calling on his life. I've seen God

1462
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,359
use him. He's talented, he plays all kinds of instruments,

1463
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,239
he raps, he sings. He's awesome, man, but he's just

1464
01:32:45,319 --> 01:32:47,640
in a bad place, on some really hard drugs and

1465
01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:51,239
involved with some dark spirits. Man. And well, anyway, this

1466
01:32:51,319 --> 01:32:54,520
guy reached out to me after all that stuff about

1467
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,920
getting naked and he made death threats to his baby

1468
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:02,199
mama and his or on Facebook Live. He said he

1469
01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:03,640
was gonna kill him and give them back to God.

1470
01:33:05,039 --> 01:33:09,159
Crazy stuff. He reached out to me and uh and said,

1471
01:33:09,319 --> 01:33:12,359
congratulations on the song. You did good, my brother. I'm

1472
01:33:12,399 --> 01:33:14,840
not even gonna ask you for what you owe me

1473
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,279
half of them half of the money. It's like what

1474
01:33:19,279 --> 01:33:21,199
he said, Yep, you owe me half of the money.

1475
01:33:21,279 --> 01:33:23,560
That song was inspired by me, and I actually wrote

1476
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,239
that song, and I gave you the knowledge and all

1477
01:33:26,279 --> 01:33:28,479
this took to write that song. And I was like,

1478
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,159
I didn't even entertain it. I was like, man, this dude,

1479
01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:33,199
shout out. This dude, he's on some crazy stuff to

1480
01:33:33,239 --> 01:33:36,079
come at me sideways like that on something that I created.

1481
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,359
You know what I'm saying, that's just insane. That's some

1482
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,640
the stuff you go through when your mind is on

1483
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:45,239
some of these hard drugs. And he just insisted. Man,

1484
01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:46,960
he just kept on and on, and then he started

1485
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,880
blowing me up, calling me, calling me, calling me. I

1486
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,039
wasn't answering because I was busy at the moment. You

1487
01:33:52,159 --> 01:33:54,159
need to answer right now. Your life is in jeopardy.

1488
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,720
Oh my god. You know he's one of the craziest

1489
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:01,079
coming out the woodwork. Bad thing is I really believe

1490
01:34:01,119 --> 01:34:04,319
in this guy. Man, I could see the potential in him. Anyway,

1491
01:34:04,359 --> 01:34:06,159
I finally answered the phone. I said, Bro, I'm watching

1492
01:34:06,199 --> 01:34:09,000
a movie with my wife. What's up? Blah blah blah blah.

1493
01:34:09,039 --> 01:34:11,479
He just went off on some crazy stuff and you

1494
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,960
owe me five hundred dollars. You want a thousand? I

1495
01:34:14,079 --> 01:34:16,880
want my money, Like, dude, you're insane, bro. And I

1496
01:34:17,039 --> 01:34:19,000
just told him, look, you need to get off the drugs.

1497
01:34:19,079 --> 01:34:21,800
You need to get cleaned. I love you by and

1498
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,399
I just blocked him from all social media, blocked his

1499
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,800
phone number, all that stuff. So then before he goes

1500
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:31,479
and does this long Facebook rant on me and tries

1501
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,560
to post it in the Patreon or not Patreon group,

1502
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,000
but in my on my public group that I have

1503
01:34:36,199 --> 01:34:40,560
tru Seeker's friends on Facebook and this long thing talking

1504
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,880
about I'm a Judas and I stole from him crazy

1505
01:34:45,039 --> 01:34:48,079
crazy stuff. And then he started going to all my

1506
01:34:48,199 --> 01:34:51,840
friends just telling him crazy stuff about me. We got

1507
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:55,960
to quit following truth Seeker. He's using magic. He's left God,

1508
01:34:56,119 --> 01:34:58,840
he's following magic, and like he's going to all my

1509
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,319
friends just having these private discourses with them. And the

1510
01:35:01,399 --> 01:35:03,479
weird thing is like a lot of people entertained it,

1511
01:35:04,239 --> 01:35:06,840
you know, and I think you know, And that's that's

1512
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,159
the weird thing when it comes to psychology and understanding

1513
01:35:10,239 --> 01:35:13,800
why people are trying to rationalize with the drug addict.

1514
01:35:14,079 --> 01:35:16,760
You know me too, I've I put myself in the mix.

1515
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,239
Why why was I trying to? I see the I

1516
01:35:19,319 --> 01:35:22,399
see the potential in this guy, like I see, you know,

1517
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:25,840
he's an awesome artist, Like people would people pray in

1518
01:35:26,039 --> 01:35:29,880
fast for his talent, Like they long to write a song,

1519
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,880
They longed to be able to play the guitar, be

1520
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,079
able to sing and rap, and like this guy, he's

1521
01:35:34,079 --> 01:35:37,000
got so much talent it's oozing out of him. But

1522
01:35:37,159 --> 01:35:39,640
he's in a bad place right now, man, So we're

1523
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,640
just gonna pray for him. I've been praying for him,

1524
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,399
but it got to the next level. He started sending

1525
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,399
me death threats. He started telling my friends that he

1526
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,359
was gonna stop at nothing to honor his ancestors and

1527
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,680
kill me, and his ancestors will get glory out of

1528
01:35:55,840 --> 01:36:01,520
out of my downfall, and just crazy craziness. So I

1529
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:06,920
reached out to this lady, the mother of the girl

1530
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,720
he was threatening because they had a whole deal on

1531
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,800
it as well, threatening to kill him and kill his daughter.

1532
01:36:13,199 --> 01:36:14,680
And so I reached out to her house, like, look,

1533
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,479
if you guys had any luck going to the police

1534
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:21,199
with this guy, because all my friends were messaging me like, dude,

1535
01:36:21,279 --> 01:36:23,640
you gotta be careful with this dude. He's crazy. Right now,

1536
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,239
he may show up at your house blah blah blah

1537
01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:28,439
blah blah blah, this kind of stuff. So I hit

1538
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,359
the lady up. She said he was supposed to go

1539
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:33,039
to court yesterday. He never showed up. You know, they

1540
01:36:33,119 --> 01:36:35,239
got three warrants on him. You know. She told me

1541
01:36:35,319 --> 01:36:37,800
to call the cops just so I can, uh, you know,

1542
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,359
let him know what's going on, that it would help

1543
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,439
this case because they got warrants on him. He didn't

1544
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,760
show up for court for threatening these people and he

1545
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:48,000
got gun charges and all kinds of crazy stuff. Anyway,

1546
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,000
I didn't a call. But then just a few hours

1547
01:36:51,079 --> 01:36:56,680
later she posted an update. Oh, she posted an update

1548
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,840
saying he was locked up. So they had this picture

1549
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:03,359
of him, you know, all cracked out and stuff in jail,

1550
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:07,720
and it's like, it's insane. You gotta be careful, man,

1551
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,720
this is real. I'm reading the uh the comments at

1552
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,399
the same same thing, man, and so Jared says, man,

1553
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,920
you should prepare. Hey we got guns, bro, we got guns.

1554
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,640
Trust me, We're prepared. We're ready, ready for whatever. The

1555
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,840
weird thing is like a lot of once you reach

1556
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:31,720
a level of notoriety, once you get a big enough platform,

1557
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,199
a lot of people come out the woodwork. But then

1558
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,600
then again, you know, you got to see if you're

1559
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:43,520
catering to these people, if you're enabling these people those

1560
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:46,920
type of things. But it's not just me, we like

1561
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,399
to say, because we talk about spirituality, we're open to

1562
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,279
so much stuff. And trust me, I get those messages

1563
01:37:52,319 --> 01:37:56,640
from crazy people who listen to the show and listen

1564
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,119
to my music and they resonate with me. And and

1565
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:02,720
this may I think I've even had somebody else say

1566
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,039
that they felt like they wrote my lyrics or something.

1567
01:38:05,119 --> 01:38:07,159
I don't you know what I'm saying, Like just crazy.

1568
01:38:07,359 --> 01:38:09,399
I have people hitting me up telling telling me that

1569
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:11,560
the Illuminati and the Masons told them that they were

1570
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,520
supposed to be my wife and marry me. And I've

1571
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:18,319
had my friend's wives who have never met, just friends

1572
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,199
online and their wife will secretly message me that they

1573
01:38:21,239 --> 01:38:23,880
want to be together. Just crazy stuff that goes on.

1574
01:38:24,039 --> 01:38:27,359
And it comes with the territory. Man, and you want

1575
01:38:27,359 --> 01:38:29,439
to think, is like, Okay, what are you doing, true

1576
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:33,640
seeker that creates a breeding ground for these people? Why

1577
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:38,079
do these people feel comfortable with coming to you? I

1578
01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:40,159
see the potential in a lot of people, like even

1579
01:38:40,239 --> 01:38:43,239
with this guy, I see potential in him, and I

1580
01:38:43,319 --> 01:38:45,319
feel like he's I hope that he gets cleaned up,

1581
01:38:45,319 --> 01:38:47,840
and I prophesy that over him that he will man,

1582
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:51,960
and I want that for him. I think everybody deserves

1583
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:53,680
to have a happy, happy ending.

1584
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 5: Man.

1585
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,079
Speaker 3: But I'm done with him. You can't threaten my life

1586
01:38:57,159 --> 01:38:58,840
or my family and then think you're gonna come back

1587
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:00,840
and hang out and be friends. I'm done with them

1588
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,000
on that tip. But there's a line that you can't

1589
01:39:04,279 --> 01:39:05,560
you can't take back your words.

1590
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 5: Man.

1591
01:39:06,319 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 3: You have to be careful. You can't undo it. Hey,

1592
01:39:09,039 --> 01:39:11,520
I was just playing, man, I was in a bad spot. Okay,

1593
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,319
I forgive you, but you gotta stay away. You gotta

1594
01:39:14,319 --> 01:39:17,079
stay where you are. You can't, yeah, you can. You

1595
01:39:17,159 --> 01:39:20,199
can't be trusted, you know. And there's those people. Sometimes

1596
01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:22,039
you have to cut people off. Sometimes you have to

1597
01:39:22,079 --> 01:39:24,159
get people out of your life. Man, some people are dangerous.

1598
01:39:25,079 --> 01:39:27,720
The spirit of jealousy. Man, I have a lot of

1599
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,600
friends over the years who have been jealous of my platform.

1600
01:39:31,279 --> 01:39:33,800
They think that they deserve it. They think that they're

1601
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,479
more spiritual, they think that they have the right knowledge

1602
01:39:37,079 --> 01:39:41,199
to share with the masses of this platform that I've built,

1603
01:39:41,279 --> 01:39:44,720
and they're jealous. I don't deserve the platform they do. Like,

1604
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,840
I've had people there and they do little stuff like

1605
01:39:48,039 --> 01:39:50,439
that guy as far as like messaging all my friends

1606
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,920
and say, hey, stay away from true Seeker. He's a fake,

1607
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,640
he's a false prophet. He's leading people astray like that

1608
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,680
type of like people have inboxed them. I've had people

1609
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,359
do that, inbox all my friends and then call me

1610
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,720
and have a conversation with me, accusing me. And then

1611
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,479
I'm able to kind of shed some light on whatever,

1612
01:40:07,119 --> 01:40:09,399
you know, nonsense, they're entertaining in their head, and I

1613
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,159
win them over and they're like, you know what, man,

1614
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:15,119
I'm sorry, bro. And they go back and they message

1615
01:40:15,239 --> 01:40:18,079
all the people again and they apologize and say, you

1616
01:40:18,119 --> 01:40:20,039
know what, I was wrong about truth seeker, this, this, this,

1617
01:40:20,319 --> 01:40:22,600
I've had that happen a bunch, especially with church people.

1618
01:40:23,199 --> 01:40:28,279
But you know, creating a safe haven or for these

1619
01:40:28,319 --> 01:40:32,319
people to thrive into spiritual spirituality, the New Age whatever

1620
01:40:32,319 --> 01:40:33,680
you want to call it. Like there's a lot of

1621
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,640
people who are out there, you know, but guess what,

1622
01:40:38,319 --> 01:40:41,039
I come from Christianity and the Christian Church. And guess what,

1623
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:43,800
there's a breeding ground for that too there in the

1624
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:47,720
prophetic movements and stuff and we so this is just

1625
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:50,079
like a warning just everybody get up on their game,

1626
01:40:50,199 --> 01:40:52,479
Like we have to really be walking in the spirit

1627
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:56,159
of discernment with what we're entertaining and with people, and

1628
01:40:56,239 --> 01:40:59,319
we allow people to speak into our lives. And that

1629
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:03,000
dude reached out to a lot of people. He uh,

1630
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,640
it was weird. It's a whole the whole thing is

1631
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:08,319
just weird in general, that one person would have that

1632
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:09,960
much power to go on there and do that and

1633
01:41:10,039 --> 01:41:13,000
stir up as much stuff as they could. And we

1634
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:16,439
have to be uh careful to stuff we're entertaining and

1635
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,119
we're letting these people. We have to move in the

1636
01:41:18,159 --> 01:41:20,800
spirit of discernment. It was said a long time ago

1637
01:41:21,279 --> 01:41:24,680
that the guy who led me to the Lord years ago,

1638
01:41:25,279 --> 01:41:27,439
he went to church. And then it was the guy

1639
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:30,760
who came and uh he asked him to come to church.

1640
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,319
So he came and checked out the church and uh talking,

1641
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,159
he was like, man, you got And then he told him,

1642
01:41:35,199 --> 01:41:38,159
he said, look, you guys claim to be spiritual. You

1643
01:41:38,279 --> 01:41:41,239
guys are talking in tongues, praying in the Holy spirit,

1644
01:41:41,359 --> 01:41:44,560
healing people, dancing in the church. You guys are just

1645
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,359
getting into the spirit of God. But you you can't

1646
01:41:47,399 --> 01:41:49,239
even move in the gift of discernment. He said, what

1647
01:41:49,279 --> 01:41:52,439
are you talking about? He said, you have registered sex

1648
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:56,159
offenders in the church, and you're letting your kids run

1649
01:41:56,239 --> 01:41:59,680
around because it's a community almost effort almost, and you're

1650
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,119
letting your kids run around and your kids are sitting

1651
01:42:02,199 --> 01:42:05,239
in the laps of registered sex offenders, and you guys

1652
01:42:05,359 --> 01:42:08,199
cannot even discern it. You don't even know that. But

1653
01:42:08,319 --> 01:42:11,239
you're so spiritual you're so deep, you're so connected with

1654
01:42:11,359 --> 01:42:14,199
God or hearing God or God told me this, you know,

1655
01:42:14,319 --> 01:42:17,239
these type of things, but you can't discern the pedophiles

1656
01:42:17,319 --> 01:42:20,720
and sexIf registered sex offenders in your church and your

1657
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,640
kids are sitting in their lap and they're sitting on

1658
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:27,439
your on their knees, and they're you know, playing with

1659
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:30,800
the kids in the church. And so that that really

1660
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,760
punched him, man, It hit hit home with him, and

1661
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,119
he shared that with me, and it always rang true

1662
01:42:36,119 --> 01:42:38,279
to me because I've known stuff like that too, of

1663
01:42:38,399 --> 01:42:41,359
just these people who go to church and they're accepted

1664
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:45,000
and you know, I've seen trust me, man, like I've

1665
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:50,039
seen so much. There's a lot of delusional people in

1666
01:42:50,239 --> 01:42:52,479
churches too. There's a lot of them in the New

1667
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,439
Age movement, There's a lot of them in Islam. Look

1668
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,279
at what these guys are doing. These people are killing

1669
01:42:57,359 --> 01:43:00,399
theirselfs over their religion and killing other people peop and

1670
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,119
doing harm to other people, racist people, people in the

1671
01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:06,439
klu Klux Klan, black Hebrew Israelites, like on every asset

1672
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:10,159
the aspect, there's us extremist out there, and it's about

1673
01:43:10,239 --> 01:43:12,359
just trying to find balance and trying to find peace

1674
01:43:12,399 --> 01:43:16,039
and harmony and be that light into the world. That's

1675
01:43:16,239 --> 01:43:18,720
essentially what it's about. But in the midst of that,

1676
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,439
we have to be careful. We have to use discernment.

1677
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:24,720
Pray for discernment. That's a spiritual gift. Like in your

1678
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,760
spirit you can know that, hey, this isn't right. God

1679
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,960
will tell you stuff about people. I mean, that's what

1680
01:43:30,039 --> 01:43:32,880
we're going to be speaking on on the School of

1681
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,319
the Mystics tonight is how to hear that voice of

1682
01:43:35,359 --> 01:43:37,760
God in your life for what people are going through,

1683
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:44,359
business decisions, relationship decisions like hearing God, being able to

1684
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,199
discern the spirits that are on other people like you

1685
01:43:47,279 --> 01:43:50,079
can do that. That's part of it. It's very practical.

1686
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,279
It's practice. Isn't just theories and cool stuff or what

1687
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:56,920
if it's real? No, this stuff is real. It's tangible

1688
01:43:57,319 --> 01:43:59,439
and if you can't apply it to your life, if

1689
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:02,680
it cannot help you or the people around you, then

1690
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:04,279
I really don't want to talk about it. And so

1691
01:44:04,399 --> 01:44:09,439
there's some somewhat of a tangible experience in each every

1692
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:11,640
one of these interviews that I do, I try to

1693
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,520
take something from it. I mean, even this discussion with

1694
01:44:15,119 --> 01:44:18,000
David Curtis today, it's like this guy is seventy three

1695
01:44:18,119 --> 01:44:21,119
years old and to see where he is and to

1696
01:44:21,159 --> 01:44:24,439
see his life's pass very similar to mine, Like those

1697
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,960
experiences he's had and the conclusions he's come to, and

1698
01:44:28,079 --> 01:44:30,760
it still seems like he's just still seeking, Like now,

1699
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:34,640
what is the thing? Like, what's the absolute? I think

1700
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:37,039
I found the absolute? Like I think I know what

1701
01:44:37,079 --> 01:44:40,600
it's about. For me, it's simply knowing God and making

1702
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:44,840
him known, letting people know about this gospel that God

1703
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:46,720
loves you and He's got a plan for you and

1704
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,319
you can encounter God that you have a purpose for

1705
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:51,600
your life and a plan for your life. And in

1706
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,159
that and through that, there's so much other stuff. Whatever

1707
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:58,399
your life calling is, to be, whatever you desire to

1708
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:00,760
do with your life, all of that stuff is kind

1709
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:05,000
of woven throughout that message. But the messages is an

1710
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,720
empowerment of the Good news Man and so of a

1711
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:12,039
that you're not alone, right, and so like that's that's

1712
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:14,800
my end all, Like that's my agenda in the midst

1713
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,279
of having these conversations with people, is to share my

1714
01:45:17,399 --> 01:45:19,920
story and uh and see how it relates and really

1715
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,279
get deep down into the into the essence of the

1716
01:45:22,359 --> 01:45:24,359
of the mind of the psyche and and what people

1717
01:45:24,399 --> 01:45:28,880
are going through and uh, people who need help, people

1718
01:45:29,039 --> 01:45:31,239
like this guy who uh you know, sent me death

1719
01:45:31,279 --> 01:45:33,399
threats and stuff like that. I try to put myself

1720
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,960
out there, you know. I try to put myself and

1721
01:45:37,039 --> 01:45:39,840
I had I have discernment with them. That's my problem,

1722
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,640
and not just me, but most of the people I

1723
01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:45,079
run with in my circle, is that we have compassion

1724
01:45:45,199 --> 01:45:47,960
for others. We uh, we know that the churches have

1725
01:45:48,079 --> 01:45:50,960
kicked these guys out, we know that they've been booted

1726
01:45:51,079 --> 01:45:54,000
from society and their outcasts, but hey, those are the

1727
01:45:54,079 --> 01:45:57,319
people that God uses man, so we have a compassion

1728
01:45:57,399 --> 01:46:00,600
for them. And because we've been there, we've been and

1729
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,520
I don't want to kick this guy wan he's down.

1730
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:04,760
I've been there. I've got the calm and to prove it.

1731
01:46:05,199 --> 01:46:07,800
You know. I've done that to people and it's been

1732
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:10,239
done to me, and I would not wish that upon anyone.

1733
01:46:10,279 --> 01:46:12,800
That's why I try to go above and beyond to

1734
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:16,800
extend my hand. But you bite me when I extend

1735
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:18,920
my hand out there, and we're done. I can't mess

1736
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,000
with you. I can't like if I keep if I

1737
01:46:21,039 --> 01:46:23,319
go out there and pick up a snake and the

1738
01:46:23,399 --> 01:46:26,159
snake bites me, who's the blame me or the snake?

1739
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,319
Especially if I go out there and do it again,

1740
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:30,760
keep getting bit by the same snake. No, you got

1741
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,640
to use wisdom and discernment. Man, with all things. The

1742
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:38,079
scriptures is deep on this. And the scripture talks about

1743
01:46:38,199 --> 01:46:41,960
giving people over to Satan. Let that sink in. What

1744
01:46:42,039 --> 01:46:45,399
does that mean? Giving them over to Satan? It's really

1745
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,359
just pulling your hands back. Look, man, it's you and God,

1746
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,680
you and Satan essentially, Like I'm gonna have to give

1747
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:55,039
you over to what's what's ailing you and let let

1748
01:46:55,159 --> 01:46:57,039
you let you deal with that for a while and

1749
01:46:57,079 --> 01:46:58,920
see what happens, and see see what you come to.

1750
01:46:59,399 --> 01:47:02,199
And God as a way of wooing the hearts hearts

1751
01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:05,760
of people and and and setting up situations and sending

1752
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:09,039
demons into your life and and downfall and things to

1753
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:11,640
let you know that he's the way, Like He's the

1754
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:15,760
only only place you're gonna find serenity and solace is

1755
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:19,720
in him, this relationship with God, and that that's what

1756
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:22,479
it's about. So with this brother, I pray for him,

1757
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:24,479
I release him, you know all that stuff. And I

1758
01:47:25,039 --> 01:47:27,840
believe that, Uh, you know, I want his best days

1759
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,159
to be ahead of him. I want him to get clean,

1760
01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:31,800
I want him to be happy. I want him to

1761
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,920
be in his kid's life and things like that. I

1762
01:47:35,039 --> 01:47:38,680
hate the fact that everybody you know doesn't get the

1763
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:40,920
happy ending which I was talking about. I believe in that.

1764
01:47:41,239 --> 01:47:44,760
I fight for that. I I make every I don't

1765
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,479
live for the moment. I try not to. I try

1766
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:51,479
to try to make every decision with the future, in

1767
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,800
mind of my future, of my daughter, my wife, my friends,

1768
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,359
my family, even myself to kind of set myself up

1769
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:01,760
of like planting something today that comes into manifestation, like

1770
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:04,600
building the life that we want, the vision that we

1771
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:08,199
have of ourselves. When we go into meditation and you

1772
01:48:08,359 --> 01:48:10,439
get these visions of yourself and what you want to

1773
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,359
do and why you're here, what is my purpose? And

1774
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:15,720
then you're so far removed from that purpose that you

1775
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:18,479
see yourself in the astral realms, it's like, Okay, what

1776
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,000
can I do to achieve that? What can I do

1777
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:27,680
to actually tap into that? And there's things practical things

1778
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:29,720
you can do to be whatever you want, whatever you're

1779
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,000
called to be, and aligning yourself with the universe or

1780
01:48:33,079 --> 01:48:38,279
with God. God works with you. He doesn't work against you.

1781
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:40,840
He doesn't unit it's not mad at you. And we

1782
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:42,880
talk about the universe and God. That's a whole nother

1783
01:48:43,279 --> 01:48:46,600
thing too. I've been just kind of contemplating. You know,

1784
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,720
some people like to say God. You go in New

1785
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:50,840
Age circles, they don't want you to say God because

1786
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,279
they think you're being religious. But you know, we're talking

1787
01:48:53,279 --> 01:48:56,880
about God in the universe, trying to use it interchangeably.

1788
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:58,800
But I don't think it's the same thing. I think

1789
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:03,159
that God created the universe. That's two different things. And

1790
01:49:03,319 --> 01:49:05,720
we talk about the universe. That's that's not something that

1791
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:09,920
uh that loves you or something that's tangible, something that

1792
01:49:10,119 --> 01:49:14,479
cares about you. God is is personable, likes I have

1793
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:19,279
a relationship with the loving God, with the spirit realm. Right.

1794
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:24,239
So we're talking about people getting offended or not wanting

1795
01:49:24,359 --> 01:49:26,680
to be you know, not wanting to talk about God

1796
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:28,520
or whatever the case is. I've been, you know, I've

1797
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,279
went through that whole thing. I go into a lot

1798
01:49:30,359 --> 01:49:32,960
of New Age broadcast and shows and they have me

1799
01:49:33,039 --> 01:49:36,960
on even within myself. But it is what it is, man,

1800
01:49:37,079 --> 01:49:38,880
It's about God. And if you want to call it

1801
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,279
the universe, but I think the universe. God created you

1802
01:49:41,399 --> 01:49:43,760
the universe, and uh, you know what I'm saying. So

1803
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,159
there's a difference there. That's as a tangent. But uh,

1804
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:48,439
some of these other questions here in the chat room,

1805
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:50,600
and see all it is his interview is going to

1806
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:52,399
be really soon, guys. All it is we did a

1807
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:54,960
song together too, so make sure y'all check that out

1808
01:49:55,399 --> 01:49:58,600
A L L I T I Z just typing all

1809
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,760
it is one word on YouTube with truth Ceca and

1810
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:03,199
you can check out the new song that we did

1811
01:50:03,239 --> 01:50:07,079
about UFOs and the spirit Realm, some awesome stuff we

1812
01:50:07,399 --> 01:50:10,159
went into. But he says here in the chat he says,

1813
01:50:10,199 --> 01:50:14,119
I believe we all have a uh a. He says,

1814
01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:16,960
I believe we all have a live detector built in

1815
01:50:17,279 --> 01:50:19,560
into our spirit. We just have to learn how to

1816
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:22,840
listen to it. Yep, we can. We can sense things

1817
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:28,000
and like I say, we right, So I think the

1818
01:50:28,239 --> 01:50:31,720
I think that different people have different giftings and different abilities,

1819
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:33,319
and it talks about this in the Bible, and it

1820
01:50:33,319 --> 01:50:35,880
talks about the gift of discernment and it says that

1821
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,479
I know we want to say we because we do

1822
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,159
like you do I do, and you know people who do,

1823
01:50:41,359 --> 01:50:44,600
but maybe some people don't. Maybe some people have other

1824
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:50,279
giftings and they're better at utilizing those gifts and for

1825
01:50:50,399 --> 01:50:53,399
the body. So we all come together, Okay, truth cicca

1826
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:55,960
and all it is. You guys are good at discernment.

1827
01:50:56,279 --> 01:50:59,800
Here's somebody else who's good at speaking. Here's somebody all

1828
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,840
there who has a gift of planning and bringing people together.

1829
01:51:03,119 --> 01:51:05,079
All of these are gifts within the Bible. The gift

1830
01:51:05,159 --> 01:51:08,439
of administration making things happen, the gift of healing, the

1831
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:11,239
gift of prophecy, the gift of speaking in tongues. Obviously,

1832
01:51:11,359 --> 01:51:13,159
I think we all can kind of tap into all

1833
01:51:13,239 --> 01:51:16,760
of those areas. But we talk about the body when

1834
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,319
we all come together, and all of us are good

1835
01:51:19,359 --> 01:51:23,039
at these things. Trust me. When the Church and in

1836
01:51:23,119 --> 01:51:25,319
the Book of Acts, this is what they did. They

1837
01:51:25,359 --> 01:51:27,359
were all good at these different things. They came together

1838
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:30,279
and they function and they changed the generation, They changed

1839
01:51:30,319 --> 01:51:32,880
everybody they came in contact with. It was not like

1840
01:51:33,119 --> 01:51:35,640
it was not like an agenda driven thing of hey,

1841
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:38,359
look at me, some of that came into play, but

1842
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:42,199
they addressed it and they dealt with it, and they

1843
01:51:42,279 --> 01:51:43,800
did it. The best way that they knew how. But

1844
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:49,239
we're talking about spiritual giftings. We're talking about other some

1845
01:51:49,359 --> 01:51:52,600
people good at divination, of tapping into the spirit realm,

1846
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:57,279
casting lots and these spiritual practice and this whole artillery

1847
01:51:57,399 --> 01:51:59,720
that they had, man and when they rolled together and

1848
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:03,560
they were on one accord, you couldn't stop them. And

1849
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:05,640
we can we can still build like that. We can

1850
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,199
work with that when we when we come together on

1851
01:52:08,319 --> 01:52:11,760
one accord. So for one man of Trusigo or whoever

1852
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:14,920
show or podcast or teacher you listen to, who claims

1853
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:16,800
to have it figured out and they want to be

1854
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,479
the master teacher. Some people call themselves the master teacher.

1855
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:21,479
I've been getting a lot of links from this guy

1856
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,880
out there they call him. He calls himself the master teacher.

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And I've known many master teachers on YouTube. But it's

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about it's about a community man. Anytime that one man

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is exalted, anytime that even like in a church setting,

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when the pastor is the go to guy, well, my

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01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,720
pastor said this, My pastor is the man of God

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over my life. Blah blah blah blah blah. That's demonic.

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It's straight to mindic. You can learn from that person,

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he could be a shepherd. But really, essentially God, the

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Holy Spirit, Jesus is the shepherd. But it's when we

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come together, when we all come together, it's about a community.

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It's about the body of Christ. It's about the flower

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of life, all of us being an expression of God.

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And when we come together, we formulate the body of

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Christ on earth, the body of Love, right, the body

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of what. It says that if two or three, if

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two or three gether in my name, there I am

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in the midst. So as you come together, you essentially

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formulate Jesus on the earth. You are the manifestations of

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the sons of God. That's what it's about. It's about

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01:53:32,039 --> 01:53:34,479
coming together. It's about walking in the spirit of unity,

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01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:38,920
in the spirit of love. Man, that's just what That's

1878
01:53:39,039 --> 01:53:40,399
just I wanted to kind of give you guys some

1879
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,039
insight on what I've been going through this week also

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to maybe I want to speak on this too. This

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is for the This is for the fathers out there

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01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,880
and the mothers too. But there's something I've got this

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01:53:50,079 --> 01:53:52,279
on on my wrisk for you guys who can see

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01:53:52,319 --> 01:53:54,399
this on on the video end. But I've got a

1885
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:56,960
I've got a pink tag on my wrist. It's just

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get their uh something. I want to encourage you guys

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01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,319
man this stuff. It's practical. Man. There's something that I

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01:54:02,399 --> 01:54:04,000
do that I want to pass down to you guys

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01:54:04,079 --> 01:54:06,920
to do if you don't. At least one day a year,

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01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:11,319
I take my daughter out to something I call Daddy

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01:54:11,399 --> 01:54:14,119
Daughter Day, and it's usually check her out of school.

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01:54:14,199 --> 01:54:15,760
I let her go for a couple hours and she

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01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,359
doesn't know it. I have this day planned where I

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pick her up, we go, ride go carts, we go,

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01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:23,840
have lunch somewhere special, and we go to the movies

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or whatever the case is. But I did one yesterday

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so or the day before, and so I wanted to

1898
01:54:30,319 --> 01:54:33,079
talk about that a little bit. I this I want.

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I want to talk about that to encourage you guys

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to do this. Whether if you're a father, if your mother,

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spend a few dollars and you got to be you

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do it for less than one hundred bucks man, just

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01:54:43,079 --> 01:54:44,800
to spend time. I mean do it and even go

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on a walk, going to nature hike, you know, on

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01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,079
just like a beautiful day. Check them out of school,

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01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:52,039
go spend time with just you and them. Not not

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01:54:52,239 --> 01:54:56,159
not both parents just one. Uh and so go get

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01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:58,840
your kid, take them out. Day before yesterday, I took

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01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,119
my daughter, went and got her, got some lunch, had

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a good lunch. Then we went to this place called

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get Air, which is a trampoline spot. And we went

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there and I wanted to plan it. I'm trying to

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plan it out with a movie because there was a

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movie I wanted to go see and take her to

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the spot. But we went there to jump on these trampolines.

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It's trampoline park. And we were the only people there.

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Went there right when it opens. I mean, how many

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kids are there at noon, you know, on a Tuesday.

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01:55:25,039 --> 01:55:27,239
So we went to the trampoline park and we jn't

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We had the whole place to ourselves. Man, this whole

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01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:32,760
trampoline It was twenty bucks. I think it was twenty bucks,

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01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,920
like twenty six bucks for us to do that. We

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01:55:35,079 --> 01:55:38,000
went there and spent an hour and then we went

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and seen a movie and then went and got ice

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cream or whatever. But it's just something like that that

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I just encourage you guys. Man, this stuff is practical.

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Just you know, time is precious. Time is of the

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essence as well. And I want to encourage you guys

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to do that. Go go check your kid out of

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school one day.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: It don't take a lot of money, so I don't

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even if you ain't got no money. Man, you can

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go for a walk, you can go to the park

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and just get on the slide. Whatever it is.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: But this stuff is practical, man, So I'm reading all

1938
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:08,479
it is, he says, He says, He says, great idea.

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I'll do it with my five year old soon. He says.

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We gotta get air in Michigan too, and might have

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01:56:14,279 --> 01:56:16,159
to try that much love truth. Yeah, I do it

1942
01:56:16,199 --> 01:56:18,359
when nobody's there too, man, so it's not crowded and

1943
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,640
kids are just you know, knocking everybody down and all

1944
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that kind of stuff. But it was fun just to

1945
01:56:23,199 --> 01:56:25,399
have the whole place to ourselves, man, And I try

1946
01:56:25,399 --> 01:56:27,319
to do it once a year every year. It's not playing.

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She don't know it. It's a surprise. She comes you know,

1948
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she's in school, comes out. It's like here we're going,

1949
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:36,760
and I had everything prepared. I love I love surprises, man.

1950
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I've been able to surprise my wife and my daughter

1951
01:56:39,199 --> 01:56:42,399
on many different occasions, and that I like, I just

1952
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:45,239
love it. I love surprises, man, good surprises. Put it

1953
01:56:45,279 --> 01:56:47,359
that way. I've had enough bad surprises in my life.

1954
01:56:47,439 --> 01:56:52,720
So it's all about the good surprises and making them laugh,

1955
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:56,399
bringing smiles to people's faces, in their face, That's what

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01:56:56,479 --> 01:56:58,319
I do if I don't do anything else. Man, As

1957
01:56:58,359 --> 01:57:00,720
a father, I try to I try to, uh, you know,

1958
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:03,000
be lighthearted, to make them laugh and make them smile.

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You know, in the world out there that can be

1960
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:08,600
uh can be hard and cold hearted at times. I

1961
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:10,760
try to keep things like even with you guys, man,

1962
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:13,239
I try to bring something to the table that's gonna

1963
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:16,079
encourage you. Guys. It's gonna better your life. It's gonna,

1964
01:57:16,359 --> 01:57:17,840
you know what I'm saying, make this walk a little

1965
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,119
bit easier, make it a little bit more enjoyable. I

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01:57:20,159 --> 01:57:23,560
think we're supposed to enjoy life. I remember going through

1967
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:27,399
spirituality as a Christian and as like the Gnostic traditions,

1968
01:57:27,479 --> 01:57:29,760
even they teach that you're not supposed to enjoy life,

1969
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,920
that you're supposed to like be a suffering servant or

1970
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:36,479
what even in like like the five percenters they call

1971
01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:39,920
the poor righteous teachers like and and that was like

1972
01:57:40,359 --> 01:57:42,000
I thought, that's what you had to be. You couldn't

1973
01:57:42,039 --> 01:57:43,960
enjoy life. You wasn't supposed to have money. You wasn't

1974
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:46,520
supposed to have wealth or or be happy and stuff.

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But that's man, that's so it's demonic, man, it's not

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01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:52,920
of God. Man, everything is beautiful. To enjoy everything in life.

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01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,920
But to really reach that spirituality where you can go

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01:57:56,039 --> 01:57:58,479
out and just sit in nature and be okay, well

1979
01:57:58,479 --> 01:58:00,359
you can go and do that walk with your family,

1980
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or walk through the forest in the cool of the

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day and just enjoy it and feel connected with everything

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01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,319
there man, spirituality, and let you do that, and to

1983
01:58:08,479 --> 01:58:11,279
know that you're one with all creation, with God, the

1984
01:58:11,359 --> 01:58:14,359
Holy Spirit which is there with you, with your breath

1985
01:58:14,399 --> 01:58:16,640
as you're able to breathe in out in nature. Maybe

1986
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,119
even we've went hiking. I remember, I take my shoes

1987
01:58:19,159 --> 01:58:21,399
off and I go barefoot hiking with the family and

1988
01:58:21,479 --> 01:58:24,720
we just connecting with the earth and the energies, getting grounded,

1989
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,439
putting our feet on the ground, like really connecting. It

1990
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:29,920
don't cost money, like it's free to do a lot

1991
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,600
of this stuff, man, And that's what it's about man.

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Speaker 5: To be.

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Speaker 3: To live in the moment, because that's all you have.

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You don't have tomorrow. You don't have yesterday. Yesterday's gone,

1995
01:58:40,319 --> 01:58:42,640
but to be in the moment. Like I always point out,

1996
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,720
Ekhart totally is a millionaire off of teaching people how

1997
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:47,960
to live in the now moment and how to find

1998
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,319
that power in the now moment. That's why I talk

1999
01:58:50,359 --> 01:58:53,640
about meditation. It's about focusing on the moment. We go

2000
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:57,159
into those realms, we get the vision for ourselves in

2001
01:58:57,359 --> 01:59:00,199
the now moment, there is no tomorrow. We talk by

2002
01:59:00,279 --> 01:59:03,920
going on being set on autopilot and just living life

2003
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:07,239
the mundane over and over and then even with my family,

2004
01:59:07,399 --> 01:59:10,199
like even though like I do this stuff, it can

2005
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:13,479
I can still get on autopilot and my family can

2006
01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:16,479
do it. My daughter goes to school, comes home, does homework,

2007
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,279
we get dinner, we eat, we spend some time together,

2008
01:59:19,439 --> 01:59:22,319
I do a podcast, whatever, And it can be monotonous.

2009
01:59:22,399 --> 01:59:24,279
You get into the monotony of life. So you got

2010
01:59:24,399 --> 01:59:26,399
to switch it up. You gotta grab and shake things up,

2011
01:59:26,439 --> 01:59:29,560
even for yourself. Man, turn that autopilot switch off. I

2012
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,000
did it for years when I was working. In weeks

2013
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:36,199
would pass man and I'm just like just going just living,

2014
01:59:36,359 --> 01:59:38,600
just doing it. And a lot of times it would

2015
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:40,640
come to play because it would make it worse because

2016
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:43,800
I'd have something I was looking forward to a month out,

2017
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:47,319
two months out, six weeks from now, whether it's Christmas.

2018
01:59:47,359 --> 01:59:49,000
You know, you get close to Christmas, you're like, man,

2019
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:51,680
I can't wait till Christmas or your birthday. Or you

2020
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,279
go into a concert and you get on autopilot because

2021
01:59:54,279 --> 01:59:58,079
you want that event to come quicker. So you have

2022
01:59:58,199 --> 01:59:59,680
to shake yourself. You have to get out of that

2023
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:02,520
auto pilot and don't let the moment pass you by.

2024
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:07,520
To be present in the moment and make those memories.

2025
02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:11,479
Man on, Like, make those memory That's what it's about it.

2026
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:14,720
I have to. It's a stump, man, it's a slump

2027
02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:18,680
to fall into. I've gotten there. And then it's you know, mindfulness, meditation,

2028
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:21,039
all of that helps to do that and just the

2029
02:00:21,159 --> 02:00:25,560
walking gratitude. Start looking at your life and just find

2030
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:27,319
the things in your life that you can be thankful for.

2031
02:00:28,079 --> 02:00:33,680
Starting with your breath. Take that deep breath in Holy Spirit.

2032
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:35,079
And a lot of times I can take that breath

2033
02:00:35,119 --> 02:00:37,800
and I just feel the Holy Spirit when I breathe.

2034
02:00:38,239 --> 02:00:40,840
It's the breath, it's the pneuma. It says Jesus breathed

2035
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:44,199
upon his disciples they receive the Holy Spirit. We could

2036
02:00:44,239 --> 02:00:46,560
tap into the breath that's the life force. Without that breath,

2037
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,279
you don't exist, you're not animated. This is the breath

2038
02:00:49,359 --> 02:00:53,479
that animates all life. So it's as simple as that

2039
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:56,119
being thankful for every little thing that we have and

2040
02:00:56,279 --> 02:01:01,079
just our limbs, our health, our family, our friends, you know,

2041
02:01:01,199 --> 02:01:03,319
whatever you have in your life that you're thankful for.

2042
02:01:03,479 --> 02:01:06,359
Man to really sit in all of that and then

2043
02:01:06,439 --> 02:01:10,119
to even speak it out express it, we said, we're

2044
02:01:10,159 --> 02:01:14,359
not talking about a theory. We're talking about or just

2045
02:01:14,439 --> 02:01:18,039
a god who is distant. We're talking about this relationship

2046
02:01:18,199 --> 02:01:22,359
with with the creator that longs for a relationship with you,

2047
02:01:22,479 --> 02:01:24,319
that wants to hang out with you, that wants you

2048
02:01:24,479 --> 02:01:28,159
to tell him or it your your feelings or your

2049
02:01:28,239 --> 02:01:31,119
fears and confess your thoughts to him so he can

2050
02:01:31,159 --> 02:01:33,520
take him. He takes all that, man, and that's what

2051
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:40,640
it's about. So let me see. So, yeah, thank you

2052
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:44,319
everybody who's supporting my work. Little Tea in the chat room,

2053
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:51,079
Andrew Jackson, Christy folks, all of this funo matrix, everybody,

2054
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Chris Garner, which Chris Garner has been hanging out for

2055
02:01:53,279 --> 02:02:03,319
a while too. Everyt Kathy Catherine, Kathleen, a little bit

2056
02:02:03,359 --> 02:02:05,239
of everybody man. Thank you guys for hanging out with

2057
02:02:05,359 --> 02:02:08,359
me today. Thank you again for supporting my work. I

2058
02:02:08,399 --> 02:02:11,359
couldn't do it without you. A little bit goes a

2059
02:02:11,399 --> 02:02:13,439
long way doing this stuff. You guys know, I do

2060
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:16,199
the podcasts free to consume. I used to. I used

2061
02:02:16,199 --> 02:02:18,039
to only I used to do an hour free and

2062
02:02:18,119 --> 02:02:21,119
then the second half was for paid members. But now

2063
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:24,439
like I just do the whole thing free. So yeah,

2064
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:27,079
your support really helps me. So if you guys want

2065
02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:31,119
me to continue doing these podcasts, doing these shows, continue

2066
02:02:31,159 --> 02:02:34,960
making music, head on over to Patreon dot com, backslash, Trustika,

2067
02:02:35,319 --> 02:02:37,520
and there you can sign up for any level of giving.

2068
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Got my music. There you know all the new music

2069
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:43,239
that I'm working on. It's already available. If you're a patron.

2070
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I got a new album coming out. The pre order

2071
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is available. Now you get order, you get entered into

2072
02:02:49,039 --> 02:02:51,279
a contest to win this big Wall flag, and I'm

2073
02:02:51,399 --> 02:02:55,680
signing every pre order that comes through. So the album

2074
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:59,359
will be released on April the twentieth. We're also doing

2075
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:03,399
a album release party, so if anybody wants to come

2076
02:03:03,479 --> 02:03:06,319
to the concert that we're doing, I'll be performing live

2077
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:10,039
and it's a free concert inside of house. It's gonna

2078
02:03:10,039 --> 02:03:12,359
be awesome. House shows are amazing. Haven't done one in years,

2079
02:03:12,439 --> 02:03:14,560
but it's gonna be awesome. So the show is free.

2080
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Just get you room and you know, give us a

2081
02:03:19,079 --> 02:03:21,640
rent a room, pay the gas and come down. Like

2082
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:24,520
I got friends driving over eight hours to come to

2083
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:26,800
be here from Orlando. It's gonna be fun. If you

2084
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:28,520
guys want to hang out, you want to meet, you'll

2085
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:30,680
get the chance to do that. So April the twentieth,

2086
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all the infos on my website at truth cigar dot com.

2087
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There's also some new merch on there. I don't promote

2088
02:03:37,279 --> 02:03:39,079
the merch too much, but I do have t shirts

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and things available promoting some different songs that I have,

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and even there's a truth Heca podcast t shirt and

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some quotes and stuff like that from my lyrics. So

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all that stuff's available on my site as well. And

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so if you want to support, buy a shirt all

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that good stuff. With that, I'm gonna say peace and shalom.

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I enjoyed this episode, got some more stuff lined up

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for you guys, and thank you guys for the support.

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With that piece, Shalom God bless.

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Speaker 4: Joe so much, so much, so much, so much Earth.

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Speaker 3: Well, that does it for this episode.

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Speaker 4: Folks.

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Speaker 2: To hear more episodes of The Truth Seca podcast, head

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over to trutheka dot com, and if you're wanting to

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support the show and get rewards, go to our Patreon

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page at patreon dot com.

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Speaker 3: Forward slash truth Seeker