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<v Speaker 1>All right, seven hundred WYLWT welcome back. It is one

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<v Speaker 1>O seven here in the Greater Cincinnati area, counting down

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<v Speaker 1>to a number of things this week, not the least

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<v Speaker 1>of which opening Day Thursday at Great American Ballpark. Weather

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<v Speaker 1>is improving and that's the way we like it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing to think back, but it will be in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, twenty five years since the greatest attack on

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<v Speaker 1>this country when a band of thugs, a very small

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<v Speaker 1>band of thugs, pulled off what we now referred to

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<v Speaker 1>as nine to eleven and close to three thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>lost their lives on that day, nine eleven, two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and one. It took almost ten years to hunt down

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<v Speaker 1>and bring to justice the man who was the mastermind

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<v Speaker 1>behind the nine to eleven attacks, and that of course,

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<v Speaker 1>was Osama bin Laden.

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<v Speaker 2>And it took.

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<v Speaker 1>The most elite fighting force that's out there, the most

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<v Speaker 1>specially trained fighting force that is out there, to bring

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<v Speaker 1>Osama bin Laden to his death and to his justice.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is an honor to welcome into seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>WYLW the man who was senior Chief Special Warfare Operator,

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<v Speaker 1>a Navy Sealed Team six leader, highly decorated, he was

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<v Speaker 1>with Sealed Team two, Sealed Team four, and eight years

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<v Speaker 1>with the legendary Seal Team six. It is an honor

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome in Rob O'Neill. Rob, how are you on

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<v Speaker 1>this glorious deck.

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<v Speaker 3>Good afternoon, Thanks for having me. I'm having a great day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Monday, but it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Oh no, fine, great, yea. The first question is

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<v Speaker 1>an innocuous one. Have you ever been to Cincinnati? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course. Yeah. It's the best chili in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's a little story for it too. Two guys

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<v Speaker 3>that went on the bin Lotenraate with me were from Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>Before the bin Lotenraight, we were in Iraq with no TV,

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<v Speaker 3>no air conditioning. We're just there. I actually learned every

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<v Speaker 3>word to the Cincinnati Bengals fights on the Bengal Garrause

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<v Speaker 3>we'd sit there in one hundred degree heat. Then I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to teach me because that was so uplifting. So

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<v Speaker 3>we just sing out of nowhere. When Morale was in

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<v Speaker 3>the dumping it was too hot, we just started saying

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<v Speaker 3>the bangle. I know to this day still, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's my daughters.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You were so it took almost ten years to get

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Laden. He got May second, two thousand and eleven

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<v Speaker 1>is one it happened. I've read enough to know and

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<v Speaker 1>understand enough to know that the training for that mission

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<v Speaker 1>began long before May of twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>How far in.

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<v Speaker 1>Advance did you Seal Team six be begin training for

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<v Speaker 1>that mission?

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<v Speaker 3>It was about two weeks before we we was confirmed

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<v Speaker 3>that we were going to go after Bin Laden, But

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<v Speaker 3>we'd actually been preparing for it before because we've been

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<v Speaker 3>immediately to war after nine to eleven, and just we'll

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<v Speaker 3>we learned in combat in Afghanistan first, then Iraq, then

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<v Speaker 3>all over you know, to include Yemen and Somalia, the

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<v Speaker 3>Indian Ocean. We just got really good at what we

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<v Speaker 3>were doing. We got really good at fighting the enemy

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<v Speaker 3>and how to exploit it. And what that means is

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<v Speaker 3>we just got better at keeping it simple. We stopped

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<v Speaker 3>complicating everything. And if like someone asked me before, how

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<v Speaker 3>do you clear a compound as big as the Loddens?

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<v Speaker 3>And I just said, well, if the guy in front

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<v Speaker 3>of me goes left, I go right. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>just do that over and over and over, and we

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we just mentioned football, what like there are

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<v Speaker 3>certain times in life where it doesn't matter how you

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<v Speaker 3>got here, You're just here. And that happened at the

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<v Speaker 3>bin Lodden Rad when a helicopter crashed. But when I

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<v Speaker 3>talked to football teams, I tell them, guys, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter why it's second and fifteen, it just is. Stop

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<v Speaker 3>arguing about it. What we have in common is time

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<v Speaker 3>is ticking. What are you going to do about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Do it now? So it's just a simplicity. Don't don't

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<v Speaker 3>talk yourself into a butt kick, and don't over complicate life.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll get hard enough on his own. Just master the basics.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're basically a young man when all this is

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<v Speaker 1>going on, you're in your early twenties.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, well that when I was in my early thirties,

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<v Speaker 3>cause I was. It took I mean, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>people talk about getting into bin Laden's room and shooting

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<v Speaker 3>him and all that stuff, it's not like I was

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<v Speaker 3>flown there out of high school. Like it took me

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<v Speaker 3>personally fifteen and a half years to get to that

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<v Speaker 3>spot of training and sweat and blood and selection courses

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<v Speaker 3>all the stuff and getting with the final and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be an honored to be pick on the pick to

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<v Speaker 3>be on the finest team I think ever assembled. But

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<v Speaker 3>we were ready for it at that point, when I

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<v Speaker 3>mean when they told us the first time they told

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<v Speaker 3>us what it was, they said, the reason you guys

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<v Speaker 3>are here is as close as we've ever been to

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<v Speaker 3>Osama bin Laden. And there was no cheering. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're professionals. We all just said, cool, we're going now, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready, Yeah, and okay, so help me through it. Because

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<v Speaker 1>there were two black Hawk helicopters, one of which, as

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, clipped I think one of the compound walls

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of went down sideways.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you on that chopper or the other one?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was on the other one, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even know it crashed until I got into bin Laden's house.

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<v Speaker 3>And what had actually happened was it was a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit warmer than we anticipated, a few degrees celsius. And

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<v Speaker 3>the walls were different to the mud walls we were

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<v Speaker 3>training on chain link fences, so there was a weird

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<v Speaker 3>updraft and you'd have to ask a pilot because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not smart enough to be a pilot. But the pilot

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<v Speaker 3>decided he couldn't hug and if he said a more

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<v Speaker 3>inexperienced pilot would have tried to power it up. That

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<v Speaker 3>would have rolled and killed everybody. But the pilot, in

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<v Speaker 3>the blink of it, I decided if he turned it

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<v Speaker 3>and put the tail on the wall, he could pin

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<v Speaker 3>the nose of the helicopter in the dirt and it

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<v Speaker 3>might save everyone's life, which it did. But that pilot

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<v Speaker 3>is a hero. Oh and he just decided it to

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<v Speaker 3>put it down on the ground and then that it

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<v Speaker 3>is what it isn't. The guys immediately got out and

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<v Speaker 3>started fighting, and like I said, I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 3>it crashed itself because they put us off on the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong spot because our pilot realized if they can't however,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't. However, I was supposed to go to the

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<v Speaker 3>rooftop of Binlam's house with my team, but he just

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<v Speaker 3>put us off outside the twenty foot walls and we

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<v Speaker 3>had to figure out a way to get in. But

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<v Speaker 3>again we were just very experienced at what we can do,

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<v Speaker 3>and we we did figure it out eventually. But even

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<v Speaker 3>the sniper that we dropped off on my helicopter, his

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<v Speaker 3>job was to run around the entire compound with the

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<v Speaker 3>dog outside the walls, and he got to the point

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<v Speaker 3>where the tail the helicopter with the pilot pin and

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<v Speaker 3>he could see it on the X here. He came

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<v Speaker 3>over the radio and said, guys inside beyond alert. There

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<v Speaker 3>death definitely ready for us. They have a training mockup

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<v Speaker 3>of our super secret helicopter in their front yard. And

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<v Speaker 3>there was a pause and the ground force commander came

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<v Speaker 3>over the radio and goes, no, jackass, that's ours. We

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<v Speaker 3>crashed and the sniper did a good thing. And he

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<v Speaker 3>literally came over the radio and said, yeah, that makes

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more sense than what I was just saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Harry hung.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't what I don't under My next

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<v Speaker 1>trip on a black Hawk will be my first. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>those things make noise? How big was this compound? If

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't Pakistan, right, so how big is this compound?

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<v Speaker 1>And why wouldn't you inside them?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they probably hurt them. They were a little quieter.

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<v Speaker 3>They these were The President of the United States didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know about these helicopters until a few months prior to this.

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<v Speaker 3>These were super secret. These were self. Man, this is

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<v Speaker 3>stuff they tell me I shouldn't talk about, But again

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know much about it. The technology I know

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<v Speaker 3>they were a little quieter and the radar couldn't see them,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, you know, training with them, it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad the Aliens who and vented these are on

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<v Speaker 3>our side because this is ridiculous. But they were just really, really,

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<v Speaker 3>really good helicopters. But again, because the Pakistani intelligence was

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<v Speaker 3>hiding bid Laden there, he must have assumed it was

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<v Speaker 3>just Pakistani forces coming to get him or bring him

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<v Speaker 3>out and put him somewhere else, because I mean, they

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<v Speaker 3>put up a little bit of a fight and I'd

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<v Speaker 3>be amazed there were no bombs in every room to

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<v Speaker 3>blow us all up, and there wasn't a bigger Like

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<v Speaker 3>people ask me, why wasn't there more al Kaina fighters there?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, I don't know. I Mean, all I

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<v Speaker 3>can tell you is we didn't call ahead and say

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<v Speaker 3>we were coming out, but they weren't ready. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>not that would have matter, because we crushed these guys,

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<v Speaker 3>but but they you know, they had a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of defense. But we, you know, we were very prepared,

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<v Speaker 3>very professional. We all, I mean every guy on that

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<v Speaker 3>mission had at least four hundred real war missions under

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<v Speaker 3>their belt, so it was a I mean, we sent

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<v Speaker 3>in the right guys. Don't get me wrong. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want twenty more fighters there, but we handled the ones

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<v Speaker 3>we ran into, and it was we turned something potentially

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<v Speaker 3>catastrophic into something great just because of our preparation to

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<v Speaker 3>get they're not our perfect plan, which the perfect plan

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<v Speaker 3>didn't last for three seconds, which is normal in life,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, I mean, and you mentioned the combat missions.

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<v Speaker 1>You were a veteran of of hundreds of combat missions. Yeah, decorated,

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned, leading into the two Silver stars, four

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<v Speaker 1>Bronze Stars, various Navy and Marine Corps accommodation medals, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean you were highly decorated. But as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>well know, you go into any mission, there is the

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood that you're not coming back from that mission. So

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<v Speaker 1>it really didn't matter, I guess to you whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was going after Osama bin Laden or a regular Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>when you're out on patrol, there's a good chance that

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you handle that uncertainty?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, the thing is, too is a bullet

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<v Speaker 3>only needs to be right once, and if you get hit,

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<v Speaker 3>it could end everything that's important, to everything that you

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<v Speaker 3>think matters. You can end if you gets shot, it

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<v Speaker 3>could just be over. And this one in particular, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we had a ninety minute flight in on helicopters that

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't know if they worked, and we could get

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<v Speaker 3>shot down, and this house should blow up and there's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a gunfight. We're not going to have

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<v Speaker 3>enough fuel. This could go a number of different ways.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a one way mission. We accepted that, but we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it. So you know, if I had a

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<v Speaker 3>guy even say don't before he went, he said, don't

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<v Speaker 3>take this the wrong way, because I'm going one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>percent going. I just need to say it out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>If we know we're going to die tonight, why are

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<v Speaker 3>we going? Which is fair? And we had that conversation

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<v Speaker 3>and we decided we're not going for the fame. We're

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<v Speaker 3>obviously not getting the reward, but we're going after Bin

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<v Speaker 3>Laden tonight for the first Americans that were forced to

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<v Speaker 3>fight out KaiA toe to Toda to the death, and

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<v Speaker 3>those are the passengers on United flight ninety three. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going after Bin Laden tonight for the single mom

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<v Speaker 3>who dropped your kids off at elementary school on a

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful Tuesday morning and then an hour later she jumped

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<v Speaker 3>to her death out of a skyscraper because that's a

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<v Speaker 3>better alternative right now than whatever's going on inside, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we'll never know. You know, she was never supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to do that. Those passengers weren't supposed to fight. We

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you get inside the compound and you make

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<v Speaker 1>your way to the compound, tell me about getting inside

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<v Speaker 1>the actual building where ben Laden is. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure the door wasn't open, and they had a butler

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<v Speaker 2>How do you get us to that part?

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<v Speaker 3>brb some kids. They know. My first team from the

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<v Speaker 3>crash helicopter had already gotten in. There had already been

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<v Speaker 3>a gunfight. One of my guys had shot two Terrors

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<v Speaker 3>through the Exterrior windows before he was in, and they

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<v Speaker 3>must have kicked the door, hit it with a sledgeham

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<v Speaker 3>or something, but it was already open and they were

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<v Speaker 3>already clearing it by the time I got in. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was on the first floor watching my guys, and

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of just went into a side room. That's

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<v Speaker 3>where one of the other dudes told me their helicopter crashed,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was just impressed that, because I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 3>bombs now this place should blow up. He's gonna martyr everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was looking at my guys who were working

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of me, because I'm in the position I have

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<v Speaker 3>the best seat on the most important, modern and most

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<v Speaker 3>important mission modern history. So I'm watching my guys and

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<v Speaker 3>I was just proud of them because they know damn

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<v Speaker 3>well they can blow up at any moment, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>not stopping them. They're not afraid, and they're not speeding up.

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<v Speaker 3>They're they're using our tactics. And the way the best

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<v Speaker 3>way to describe our tactics are slow as smooth and

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<v Speaker 3>smooth as fast. So if you want to be fast,

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<v Speaker 3>slow down, you know. And I'm watching him do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the woman who found bin Laden, the CIA agent

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<v Speaker 3>who was depicted in zero Doart thirty, said that I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what it looks like inside, but there will

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<v Speaker 3>be stairwells, and the first one you will run into

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<v Speaker 3>Khalid bin Laden, and that's his twenty year old son.

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<v Speaker 3>He will be armed, and she said so here's how

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<v Speaker 3>cool she was. He said, if you can ace him,

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<v Speaker 3>you get a shot at the big guy. That was cool,

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<v Speaker 3>and we ran into him. The guys in front of

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<v Speaker 3>me took carry him, so we went up to the

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<v Speaker 3>second floor. He's dead on the stairs, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>was about eight guys back in line. Everyone except the

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<v Speaker 3>first guy started going left and right to clear the unknowns,

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<v Speaker 3>the different rooms, stuff like that. So it's down to

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<v Speaker 3>two of us going from the second floor to the

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<v Speaker 3>third floor, and that's where we know bin Laden is.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's one guy in front of me and he's

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<v Speaker 3>pointing his gun up the stairs and these stairs lead

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<v Speaker 3>to a curtain like a door, but it was just

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<v Speaker 3>a curtain, and he could see people moving back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's down to me. My job is to control

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<v Speaker 3>his shoulder so that when we have and look for

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<v Speaker 3>other guys that we're going to bring. His job is

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<v Speaker 3>to look forward so he doesn't need to look at me.

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<v Speaker 3>But once I squeeze, it's time to go. And he

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<v Speaker 3>just started saying, hey, we gotta go, we gotta get up,

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<v Speaker 3>we gotta go. Come on now, because he's thinking those

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<v Speaker 3>are suicide bombers. But we can beat him. If we

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<v Speaker 3>go right now, we can't hesitate. And I remember looking

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<v Speaker 3>at him and literally he was brave. I wasn't. I'm thinking, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but line's up there and I'm gonna blow up, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just tired of thinking about it. It wasn't bravery

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<v Speaker 3>at all. It's like, let's just go. So I squeezed

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<v Speaker 3>him and he went up, and he went to that

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<v Speaker 3>curtain and he moved it and he sort of tackled

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<v Speaker 3>these two people that he assumed were suicide bombers, like

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't know he thought they were. So he jumped

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<v Speaker 3>on a grenade that didn't go off, which how he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have a medal of honor is beyond me. But

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<v Speaker 3>because he went left, I went right because of our tactics.

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<v Speaker 3>And right in front of me, three feet away, standing

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<v Speaker 3>on two feet was the Sawma Bin Lunn and his

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<v Speaker 3>wife Lamal was in front of her him and he

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<v Speaker 3>had his arms on her shoulders, and I remember thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>I was I didn't think he would be as skinny

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<v Speaker 3>as he was. He was taller than I saw it,

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<v Speaker 3>and his beard was sort of gray. But that's his nose,

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<v Speaker 3>that's him. He's not surrendering. I've seen that picture a

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<v Speaker 3>thousand times. He's a suicide bomber. I got to take

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<v Speaker 3>him out, and the way you deal with the suicide

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<v Speaker 3>bombers to shoot him in the face. So I did

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<v Speaker 3>twice at about three feet away, and then he fell down.

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<v Speaker 3>I shot him one more time, and then because his

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<v Speaker 3>wife is in front of me and we're the good guys,

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<v Speaker 3>now it's time to move her out of the way

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<v Speaker 3>because other seals will be coming in. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>it to be a crossfire. And that's when I looked

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<v Speaker 3>down and saw his two year old son. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is the humanity of stuff like this. I'm a father

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm looking at his two year old son, and

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<v Speaker 3>my first thought was, this kid has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 3>with this. He should not have seen this. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>moving them out of the way, and I tune around.

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<v Speaker 3>I can hear bin Laden exhaling. I can. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an ugly side. I can see what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>I gets shot in the head three times at close range,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm kind of looking at him, and one of

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<v Speaker 3>my friends comes up to me. He kind of gets

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<v Speaker 3>controlling me and says, hey, are you good? And I

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<v Speaker 3>said I am, But what do we do now. And

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<v Speaker 3>he laughed and he said, now we find the computers. Bro,

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<v Speaker 3>we do this every night, hundreds of times.

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<v Speaker 2>You've done this.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on And I said, you're right, I'm back. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god. And his words to me were, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>just killed Osama bin Laden and your life just changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Now get to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so at that point, you get the body out.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want him to become a martyr, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave him behind. You got to get the

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<v Speaker 1>body out. You got to throw the body on the

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter and get back to base or I guess to

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<v Speaker 1>the aircraft carrier, right, because that's where it was a

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<v Speaker 1>thing at sea.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Well, we had to call another helicopter in because

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<v Speaker 3>we have to blow the one that crash up. So

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<v Speaker 3>we have to call and and no one realizes this too,

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<v Speaker 3>is that that's more Army pilots, another Army helicopter, and

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<v Speaker 3>more Navy heels. So the heroes on that mission, the

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<v Speaker 3>Army and Seal Team six actually rescued Seal Team six

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<v Speaker 3>on the bin Laden raid. No one ever talks about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm amazed. But so that's the one we got to

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<v Speaker 3>get out on. So we turned the body to our

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<v Speaker 3>The first team that crash gave them our initial helicopter.

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<v Speaker 3>This one came in to get us. And then we're leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is the coolest part of the mission because

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<v Speaker 3>we just we got his body. Now we're leiaeving. The

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<v Speaker 3>Pakistani's no, we're here, and they're definitely going to try

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<v Speaker 3>to shoot us down with a jet that we sold them,

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<v Speaker 3>and a jet against the helicopter is a bad fight.

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<v Speaker 3>But if we can live for ninety minutes, we get

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<v Speaker 3>fifty years. I get to see my kids again. But

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<v Speaker 3>worrying about a missile shooting me down is It're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>stop it, So I'm not gonna worry about it. So

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<v Speaker 3>I just started my Stopwatch and I'm waiting for ninety minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>If I get ninety minutes across that border, across the

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<v Speaker 3>border into Afghanistan, we live. And I look down at

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<v Speaker 3>my watch, It's like I spent ten minutes. I spent

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<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes. The sniper sitting next to me is the

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<v Speaker 3>guy who rescued Richard Phillips from Smallly Pirates. Like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is how small this team is. I looked thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's been forty fifty minutes. Now it's been fifty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to get to ninety seventy minutes. Then I start thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>you just mentioned baseball. I started thinking about a baseball game,

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<v Speaker 3>top of the seventh watching a no hitter, like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to jinx this, I don't want to say anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's been eighty minutes. Got to get to ninety. Then.

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<v Speaker 3>I love sports analogies because it doesn't matter how you

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<v Speaker 3>got some even a pro golfer, you had a team

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<v Speaker 3>with you, right, So I love sports analogies. I started

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about the greatest sporting event in American history in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty Lake Placid, when Team USA Hockey was playing

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest hockey team ever played, assembled the Russians, the

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<v Speaker 3>professional Russian team we've never lost since the fifties or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. And you have this group of college

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<v Speaker 3>kids have no business being on the ice, but now

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<v Speaker 3>they're winning. And it's three to four in the third period.

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<v Speaker 3>You hear the crowd ten nine, still nervous, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>six five, And then the pilot came over the radio.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going through my head. Then the pilot comes

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<v Speaker 3>over the radio at eighty five minutes into a ninety

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<v Speaker 3>minute flight, and he said, very calmly, all right, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time in your lives, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>happy to hear this. Welcome to Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, wow yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So we fly him down, We bring him to Jalalabad

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<v Speaker 3>to show Admiral mccraven, who was running the mission, greatest

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<v Speaker 3>officer I've ever worked for. And then we showed it

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<v Speaker 3>to the showed the body to the woman who found him,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was she that was the only thing she

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<v Speaker 3>did in life was find him. That's it. She gave

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<v Speaker 3>up her life, no husband, no kids, seven days a

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<v Speaker 3>week for years to find him. And we walked her

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<v Speaker 3>over to his body, and I thought it would have

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<v Speaker 3>been cool enough. This could have ended it. I pointed

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<v Speaker 3>to his body and I said to her, is that

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<v Speaker 3>your guy? And she looked at for second, patted me

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<v Speaker 3>on the back. He goes, well, I guess I'm out

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<v Speaker 3>of an expletive job, and she just left. That was

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<v Speaker 3>so cool. And then we flew him up to Bagram.

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<v Speaker 3>We had we had to show the agency it was here.

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<v Speaker 3>And then a professional photographer and a professional scientist doing

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<v Speaker 3>DNA confirmed and I'm standing above, I'm standing at the

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<v Speaker 3>fet of bin Lad. He's laying right here. I hear

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<v Speaker 3>President Obama. He's on TV. We're watching this. I'm eating

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<v Speaker 3>a breakfast sandwich, and he says, tonight I can report

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<v Speaker 3>to the American people into the world the United States

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<v Speaker 3>conducted an operation to kill Osama bin Laan, the leader

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<v Speaker 3>of al Qaeda. I hear the President say Osama bin Laden.

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<v Speaker 3>I look at Osama bin Laden eating a breakfast sandwich,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought, how in the world did I get

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<v Speaker 3>here from Butte Montana. And then we turned him over

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<v Speaker 3>to the army. They flew him out to the carrier.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see him get dumped in the water. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the story we got. And we literally flew from there

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<v Speaker 3>to Virginia Beach and we were home sixteen hours later.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, Rob O'Neill. Robert O'Neill is our guest. His

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<v Speaker 1>book is a New or Times bestseller, The Operator Firing

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<v Speaker 1>the Shots that killed Oselma Bin Laden and My years

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<v Speaker 1>as a Navy Seal Team Warrior. Your life is a

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<v Speaker 1>man changed, as you mentioned immediately after you put three

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<v Speaker 1>into ben Laden.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a marked man.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, there are people that want to see you personally dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me about your life today, precautions you have

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<v Speaker 1>to take or are you the kind of guy that says, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to live my life. I did what

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to do and I'm not going to let

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<v Speaker 1>anybody bother me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, precautions should be there and everybody should

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<v Speaker 3>be prepared for anything. And that's just have my role

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<v Speaker 3>right now. I mean, I don't discuss the security I

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<v Speaker 3>have in place. I have a lot in place. I

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<v Speaker 3>know how to handle myself, so I'm not you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I can take care of myself and my family, So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm It's one of those things you don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>get complacent just because these people don't only need to

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<v Speaker 3>be right once. But yeah, I'm a target, but so

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<v Speaker 3>is every other American and it would be a lot

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<v Speaker 3>easier if they can get weapons into this country, which

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<v Speaker 3>they have, by the way, over an open border for

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<v Speaker 3>the past four years. Day would much rather go to

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<v Speaker 3>Times Square and kill a bunch of people that just

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<v Speaker 3>try to find me because I'm a hard target. But

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people out there have their head in

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<v Speaker 3>the sand and don't realize that just because you're not

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<v Speaker 3>at war with someone doesn't mean they're not at war

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<v Speaker 3>with you. So I mean, yeah, I mean, but I see,

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<v Speaker 3>I was forced at a young age to get completely

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<v Speaker 3>immersed in what I call reality, and there's not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of that going on, especially in this country with

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<v Speaker 3>the political landscape. So I mean, I live my life

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<v Speaker 3>but on that too though, you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>political fighting that's only on the internet when you get outside,

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<v Speaker 3>even in other countries. Because my favorite saying is it's

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<v Speaker 3>a large planet, but it's a small world. Believe it

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<v Speaker 3>or not. Most people are actually really good. Most people

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<v Speaker 3>just want to including in combat zones. They just want

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<v Speaker 3>to get on with their lives and raise their kids

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<v Speaker 3>like the rest of us. So I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>don't get complacent, but there are threats. But for the

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<v Speaker 3>majority of my life that most you know, people are

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<v Speaker 3>just great. If you're angry at social media, put your

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<v Speaker 3>phone down and go outside and talk to people. Go

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<v Speaker 3>to a deli, get a sandwich, go get some chile

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<v Speaker 3>at highlight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah. People live your life. Understand that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could either live your life in fear or you

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<v Speaker 1>can live your life the way we were meant to

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<v Speaker 1>live our lives. But that doesn't mean, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be stupid about it when you live it, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what you're saying. You're forty eight years old. Forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight years old now, right, what are you doing now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Besides talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is the best part of my life right now,

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<v Speaker 3>we're having a bless Yeah. I host a podcast to

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<v Speaker 3>the same name, called The Operator, and I just I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not calling myself an operator. I'm giving you my description

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<v Speaker 3>of my life is an operator, and I want to

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<v Speaker 3>hear your life is an operator and being an operator.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're doing anything to help your family, or your community,

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<v Speaker 3>or your church or your schools, you're an operator. So

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<v Speaker 3>I like to hear from people. So I do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And my book The Operator, it'saw on my website and

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<v Speaker 3>I sign a lot for people because we have fun

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<v Speaker 3>with it. Like I don't use an auto pen, then

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<v Speaker 3>I don't use platelests. I take whatever you want signed

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<v Speaker 3>in the book is there's an inscription part and I

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<v Speaker 3>have put what people want. It's just fun because people

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<v Speaker 3>like it's just awesome. It's not always a military theme

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<v Speaker 3>or motivation. I got one the other day. It's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Some dude bought my book for his buddy as a

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<v Speaker 3>birthday present, and he had me signed Dear Jeff, you

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<v Speaker 3>kill it selling mattresses like I killed the Loud. We

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<v Speaker 3>have fun with so we have fun with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Rob O'Neil, this has been a trip man. I

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<v Speaker 1>would tell you, but we can do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna hang out to your number and and

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<v Speaker 1>next time I'll play the Bengals theme song for you,

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<v Speaker 1>just to uh, you know, just to get your back

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<v Speaker 1>in the mood for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I can you played? You played the Bengal Girl

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<v Speaker 3>anytime you have to fire up yet? I love that song,

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<v Speaker 3>Rob O'Neil, about about time for a Super Bowl win.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just hey, tell.

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<v Speaker 1>You you're telling us, you're telling us stay well and

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<v Speaker 1>uh we'll we'll visit down the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you outstand. Thanks for having me have a gret day.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you've done in life. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>he's done. One twenty nine News Radio seven hundred w

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