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<v Speaker 1>All right, some breaking news that just dropped about five.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten minutes ago. Tayshawn Lyons has re entered the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 1>Utah wide receiver Tashawn Lyons has re entered the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 1>If you recall, Tayshawn Lyons entered the transfer portal earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this week and then withdrew his name after about a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of hours in the portal. But according to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four to seven Sports, Tayshawn Lyons is now back in

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<v Speaker 1>the transfer portal. Utah added a wide receiver yesterday from

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<v Speaker 1>Utah State and Otto Tiya, So maybe that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons Tayshawn bounced College football season, Bowl Season, CFP, Transfer.

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<v Speaker 2>Portal and the like. With our buddy Kyle Bonagura on

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday afternoon. Kyle, Happy Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, Bud, I'm gonna good sense are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm well? I'm well? So how what?

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<v Speaker 1>What did what did Christmas Day look like? In the

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<v Speaker 1>bonne Guera Household out everything go? Did santacom everybody stay

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<v Speaker 1>safe and have a good time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Santa made it safely down the chimney. One year

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<v Speaker 3>old and a four year old uh all their dreams

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<v Speaker 3>came true, So it was good Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>One and four.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're you're in the thick of it, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that you are.

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<v Speaker 2>You are in. That's a battleground zone every day, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I just broke away from the battle right now because

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<v Speaker 3>those you know, in between the holidays, everyone's off you

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<v Speaker 3>preschool all that, so everyone's kind of running wild right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got to escape to the back of the

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<v Speaker 3>office to chat with.

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<v Speaker 2>You right on. Well, I appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, Let's just start with the silly dynamic that college

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<v Speaker 1>football has.

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<v Speaker 2>Free agency while the season is still going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is so dumb, uh, And there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>dumb things right now about this great sport and this

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<v Speaker 1>great product that we all love. But what what what

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<v Speaker 1>are your what are your thoughts on the current situation

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<v Speaker 1>that again essentially as free agency while the season is

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and you know this can't last, This is untenable.

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<v Speaker 1>This has to change, Kyle, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I mean it definitely has to change. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>how did that? How did that happen? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I have like a fully fleshed out

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<v Speaker 3>fix here, because I mean, this is really the problem

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<v Speaker 3>that you have with teather professional sport education.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You have semesters, you have quarters like guys portals, so

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<v Speaker 3>they can roll in time. If it's a semester, it's different,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a quarter. You've got the coaching changes happening during

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<v Speaker 3>the seasons, so many moving pieces that like you can't

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<v Speaker 3>just say, okay, do this one thing and that solves anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Because with one fix, which is what the transfer portal was, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a fix to allow these kids to have

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<v Speaker 3>flexibility and all that that they that they should they

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<v Speaker 3>have had. But with that fix became this madness that

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<v Speaker 3>we're watching play out right now at the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the season. It's in between bowl games. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the thick of you all, I should be on

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<v Speaker 3>the ploffs right now, right Like in theory, it should

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<v Speaker 3>be like the NFL where the portal opens at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of at the end of the season, right, But

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<v Speaker 3>for some of these teams, that means that your season's

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<v Speaker 3>over and the last week in November, so that means

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<v Speaker 3>you got to wait two months and then classes start.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean it's a it's a mess, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is the result of kind of kicking the can

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<v Speaker 3>down the road every time you were forced to do

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<v Speaker 3>so by you know, the powers that be, you know

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<v Speaker 3>the courts, right with all the lawsuits that have pushed

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<v Speaker 3>for more rights. And you know, if if the NCAA

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<v Speaker 3>would have like fully embraced where this has had a

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<v Speaker 3>long time ago, you could have kind of be set

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<v Speaker 3>and tried to design a system that could have taken

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<v Speaker 3>this all intoccount. You know, nothing about the way that

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<v Speaker 3>the organizition is ever acted makes me think that the

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<v Speaker 3>level just blow it up. I'll just have one. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be plugging holes in the sinking ship until

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<v Speaker 3>we eventually are looking at something that's nothing like we

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<v Speaker 3>see today.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what your thoughts are on, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>past few weeks we're hearing, you know, the venture capitalist

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<v Speaker 1>firms and private equity money are starting to kick the

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<v Speaker 1>tires on purchasing portions of college football programs, and look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that would work. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanisms on how to make that happen. If I did,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably be a venture capitalist myself and not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about sports for four hours every day on AM radio.

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<v Speaker 1>There's got to be you know, involvement of course from

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<v Speaker 1>local legislators in the state because several institutions are publicly owned,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there are private institutions like BYU. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the model that we're hearing is there'll be private equity

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<v Speaker 1>firms that are looking to purchase We'll just say Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State forty eight percent of Ohio State football and give

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<v Speaker 1>them six seven hundred million dollars up front that Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State can then go use on nil endeavors to improve

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<v Speaker 1>their facilities whatever they want.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, of course the big.

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<v Speaker 1>Payout for the vcs will come once the pro model

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<v Speaker 1>is in place and that TV deal will shoot through

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<v Speaker 1>the roof with the I don't know, the forty biggest

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<v Speaker 1>brands in college football. The dynamic that we've all discussed

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<v Speaker 1>over the past couple of years, if that comes.

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<v Speaker 2>To be a reality, Kyle and I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a situation where, you know, the people that

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<v Speaker 1>get together and spend hundreds of millions of dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>purchasing percentages of these teams will then be able to

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<v Speaker 1>put central leadership in place and we could have a

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Goodell of college football and a central leadership office

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<v Speaker 1>that can actually be forward thinking and see around corners

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<v Speaker 1>and come up with solutions instead of reacting to problems.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I don't think you should have to

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<v Speaker 3>go that far before you have someone who's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>been a commissioner's share, and I think there's a clear

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<v Speaker 3>need for that to be there already. But like, just

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<v Speaker 3>like the structure of the sport makes all of it's

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<v Speaker 3>all of it is so difficult to game out because

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<v Speaker 3>of all the different variables in place, right, Because when

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<v Speaker 3>you have these conference commissioners, like if you're the commissioner

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<v Speaker 3>of the Big Ten or the SEC and you're in

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<v Speaker 3>this powerful role, like you're probably out, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not trying to get that up right, So you're pushing

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<v Speaker 3>back at every step to prevent something like that from happening.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's kind of how we got here, right, is

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<v Speaker 3>people trying and think on the power for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of human nature, I guess to a degree.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I think like that prevents a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>what you're talking about from happening. I think that the

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<v Speaker 3>more you see control the outside parties, like the individuals

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<v Speaker 3>that have to allow that to happen, Like it's not

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<v Speaker 3>in their best interests. So I think you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>all the push back there, and then you know, eventually

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<v Speaker 3>there needs to be more tiers to this sport, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like FES as one hundred and thirty teams, Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>a joke, right, there's not than thirty teams playing at

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<v Speaker 3>the same level. So I think whether it's forty, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's whatever the number is, I think there probably should

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<v Speaker 3>be three divisions within you know, within FBS. Right, there's

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<v Speaker 3>so many different ways this could go. That's why, like

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<v Speaker 3>I try not to like get too in the weeds

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<v Speaker 3>with all this because it's it's just so hard to predict, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's like the idea of private acity, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you understand that those talks are happening. There's a good

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<v Speaker 3>chance that it does happen to some degree, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know we're not there yet, right, and so to know

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what it's going to look like, it's just so

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<v Speaker 3>hard to understand. Like if this happens, then this will happen.

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<v Speaker 3>If you push this button, then this lever drops, Right.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just too much of that going on to have

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<v Speaker 3>a great sense of what the sport's going to look like.

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<v Speaker 3>When the new TV fields kind of are upper auction,

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about some actual football that has

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<v Speaker 1>been played and will be played coming up. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what your thoughts are, because I haven't spoke to you

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<v Speaker 1>since we saw the first round of the CFP games

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<v Speaker 1>played and duds ultimately in my opinion, and it led

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<v Speaker 1>to wailing and nashing of teeth and angry people who

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<v Speaker 1>cover the sport talking about, you know, no more auto bids,

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<v Speaker 1>and look, I don't know how you could. You cannot,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion at least, and obviously it's my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm about to speak into the microphone, so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really need to say that, But you cannot devalue

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season in college football.

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<v Speaker 2>You just can't do it, because it's what makes this

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<v Speaker 2>sport great.

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<v Speaker 1>That every week feels kind of like do or die

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<v Speaker 1>for college football teams. And I do think you need

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to find a way to value winning.

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<v Speaker 2>Your conference as well. But I don't think like we're

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<v Speaker 2>in the big twelve foot print.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Arizona State should have had a first

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<v Speaker 1>round by you know, and I can understand why people

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<v Speaker 1>are upset that boyse got their first round by even

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<v Speaker 1>though Boise had a great year and barely lost to

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<v Speaker 1>Orgon the best team in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also can call it how it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, and you know, maybe these aren't one of the

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<v Speaker 1>four best teams in college football. And ultimately, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>should SMU have really been able to get in even

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<v Speaker 1>though they.

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<v Speaker 2>Played their conference championship game close? I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like everything else, there are no easy fixes.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems like a lot of people that wanted

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<v Speaker 1>the expanded twelve team format are now upset at this

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<v Speaker 1>format too.

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<v Speaker 2>So did the I guess the way, I'll ask the

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<v Speaker 2>question long way to land the play?

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<v Speaker 1>Did the first round CFP games change your opinion on

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<v Speaker 1>what this sport should do to crown its national champ.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually think it's fine. Right, there's blots. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be blots. That's the sport. There was blots with four,

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<v Speaker 3>there's bloods in the NFL, there's bloods in the final four,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the national champion a few years ago was sixty

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<v Speaker 3>five to seven, Right, So I think we just have

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<v Speaker 3>to understand that whatever the format is going to look like,

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<v Speaker 3>there's just going to be blotted. And yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 3>there was, there was all of them that there were

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<v Speaker 3>no competitive games this time, and that to this type

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<v Speaker 3>of discussion, right, it's fair. It's kind of the natural

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<v Speaker 3>way to go with it, like how do we make

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<v Speaker 3>things better? But I think at the same time, like

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<v Speaker 3>what we saw during the regular season this year, I

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<v Speaker 3>thought was so much better because it kept everyone in

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<v Speaker 3>the country relevant through the whole year. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 3>have the whole country is still relevant. Right if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at it, if you look at a map and

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<v Speaker 3>you see where the teams are, like, those teams are

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<v Speaker 3>a part of the conversation in college football, and that

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<v Speaker 3>just was never the case during the four team right

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<v Speaker 3>to go, you know a few times, right, and that

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<v Speaker 3>like this this round, right, if you look at it, right,

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<v Speaker 3>can do texts if you if you get blown out,

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<v Speaker 3>up before the game took place. Right, We had a

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<v Speaker 3>like most years, there's no college football that day, right,

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<v Speaker 3>They were blowouts, but like I'd rather be sitting in

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<v Speaker 3>as opposed to like the gallery furniture, dot com bole

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<v Speaker 3>or something else that doesn't really matter. Right, there's this

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's tweaking to do with seeding and buys

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<v Speaker 3>and all that, but I think like where we're at

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of you know, I'm I'm okay looking over

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<v Speaker 3>like these those uncompetitives men not competitve games in the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I do agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm going to ask a long question, Kyle, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you can move around the house to get some

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<v Speaker 1>of reset a little bit, see if you can get

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<v Speaker 1>a better connection with Kyle. The next round will start

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<v Speaker 1>on New Year's Eve. It's Penn State, Boise State, and

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll get to those games in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Bonnagura is our guest, don't forget coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty minutes from right now. Richard Smith and Frank

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<v Speaker 1>Layden live on site. So if you've never met the

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<v Speaker 1>legendary Frank Layden and Smitty, they are the best people

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd be happy to take pictures with you, shake

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<v Speaker 1>your hands out here at Tim Dolly Southtown. Tim Dolly

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<v Speaker 1>Nissan Southtown. So put that phone or excuse me, put

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<v Speaker 1>that address in your phone and your GPS and follow

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<v Speaker 1>it out here if you want to meet Frank. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll bring Kyle back on now. So Kyle from a

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<v Speaker 1>local standpoint. Unfortunately, Utah of course not pull eligible, So

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have a game to talk about with the Utes.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time we had you on, I asked you about.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Beck and Devin damp here, So we won't go

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<v Speaker 1>down that route. But the game that we do have,

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<v Speaker 1>ironically enough, we're the home of the Utes, but we

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<v Speaker 2>Game on our radio station.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's tomorrow, it's five point thirty. Colorado's a three

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<v Speaker 1>point five point favorite. These two teams landed in San

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<v Speaker 1>on Dion and Colorado, and obviously this will bring a

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<v Speaker 1>going to be super high. BYU is a massive brand

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<v Speaker 1>on their own right, and then everybody watches coach Prime

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<v Speaker 1>of college football. Give me your thoughts on the Alamo

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl tomorrow in San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I think if you look at the like

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<v Speaker 3>the slate of bowl games, non playoff games, it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>the most interesting one. The fact that you have the

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<v Speaker 3>heis and Trophy winner who's not sitting out. You have

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<v Speaker 3>the potential number and overall pick in sure, George Sanders

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<v Speaker 3>not sitting out. That's a pretty good starting point for

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<v Speaker 3>you know, game that is involved in the playoff, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's that's pretty intriguing for what I understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Buya hasn't hasn't really had many defections, although I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>been keeping close tabs on that. But yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that they were, you know, in the same conference,

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<v Speaker 3>tied for the tide for first place. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>this consolation Big Twelve title game in a way, right

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<v Speaker 3>They both team was finished seven and two in the conference,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, probably felt like they deserved a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to play to get into the the playoffs. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 3>to see this one. A few weeks ago, I went

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<v Speaker 3>down to Provo, had a chance to sit down with

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<v Speaker 3>with j Hill and just kind of talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>season that he's been through, I mean, heart attack two

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<v Speaker 3>days before the season opener and then kind of dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with that. You kind of in recovery on a parallel

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<v Speaker 3>path with the season. So I wrote about that. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got a story publishing tomorrow. The BYO Pans will probably

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<v Speaker 3>get a enjoy reading because that that story about what

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<v Speaker 3>he's been through this year is pretty remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. In fact, since we're in that space, let me

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<v Speaker 1>follow up and without spoiling.

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<v Speaker 2>It, because we want people to go read it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay is a friend of the show once upon a

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<v Speaker 1>time up here and saw Lake obviously at Weber and

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people around here figured he

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<v Speaker 1>come to fruition yet. He's still very young. My guess

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<v Speaker 1>is he's going to have a program to run on

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<v Speaker 1>his own. Tremendous recruiter. It took a little bit for

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<v Speaker 1>the new players to get used to his system, but

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<v Speaker 1>So I would imagine that was the first opportunity you

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<v Speaker 2>What were some of the main takeaways.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think makes makes him such an effective

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you sit down with him, it's really just

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<v Speaker 3>like the energy that he exudes is right off the bat, right,

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<v Speaker 3>there is a kind of a comfort level that exists.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure this is the case with almost anyone who

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<v Speaker 3>be around. He's got this kind of positive energy that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it really seeps into the team. I know,

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<v Speaker 3>his his players. I talked to a few of them about,

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<v Speaker 3>the program, and they rave about him in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't usually hear players talk about coaches like right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's it was all also like very genuine, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>is what I'm saying. That they really believe in him

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<v Speaker 3>as a coach, believe him as a person. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, b Yu was one of the worst

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<v Speaker 3>defenses in college football teeriears ago. This year, they were

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<v Speaker 3>right there at the top in the Big Twelve and

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<v Speaker 3>in every meaningful statistical category. So yeah, and that handsful,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said before, it's it's about as good as

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<v Speaker 3>the different factors that are taken away from those games.

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<v Speaker 3>These days.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Kyle, before I start, you loose on a Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>get you, get you back to the fam. I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about this this morning. I feel like, from my

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State this year where I felt like that's the

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<v Speaker 1>Moments I've watched Oregon this year and feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best team in the country. I would say the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing about Georgia. I'm not as high on Texas

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<v Speaker 1>as most, but they're obviously really good. Of the remaining

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<v Speaker 1>teams left, there eight teams left in the CFP, how

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<v Speaker 1>many would you say qualify from your prism as potentially

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so just going right down the list, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously Oregon and Ohio State both can can get there.

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<v Speaker 3>I would remove Georgia actually, just you know, I have

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<v Speaker 3>you're starting quarterback, you're gonna do it with the backup? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's possible, and I'll I'll be wrong in a

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<v Speaker 3>be confident in a team with this backup quarterback. Texas

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<v Speaker 3>is right there, of course, and I thought notre Dame

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<v Speaker 3>looked really good that in that playoff game too, So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the that's the group I would sit with.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, look, they're all all these are good teams,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can like you can sing their praises, but look,

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<v Speaker 3>Boyer State's not it's not gonna happen, Penn State, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's not gonna happen, at least I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>In areas on a state again, great season, Kenny Dillingham,

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<v Speaker 3>among the best coaching jobs in college football year. But

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<v Speaker 3>they're just there's a there's tiers here, right, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>So those are the four that I think are in

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<v Speaker 3>are have a shot, and I think that's like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what exciting about this field, right, Like you have four

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<v Speaker 3>teams where you know you can be like I could

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<v Speaker 3>probably be convinced of any of those four of of

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<v Speaker 3>why they deserve to kind of be sitting in that

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<v Speaker 3>in that chair at the end. So again, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the for me, the playoff format is a good thing

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<v Speaker 3>that we have all those teams still in the mix.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle, thank you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll let you get back to the fan happy holiday season,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great new year, and we'll get you back

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