WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:10.599 This was a vision. 2 00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:12.960 I'm telling you these people are Satanists as I sit 3 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:14.279 here there, Satanists. 4 00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:19.280 But the world is called these kind of things, black masses, mutilations, mutilations, 5 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:22.519 the ink of us, the suck of us. I'm telling you, 6 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:24.480 we gotta go down to the religious supplies, or we 7 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:26.679 gotta get ourselves a couple of gallons of holy water. 8 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:28.559 My cousin Jerry's a precy can get us a deal. 9 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:31.280 Do you want it to take your family kidnap and 10 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:33.759 tear their livers out and make some kind of satanic PATAI? 11 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:41.039 Hey, once they get in here, it's over bell. 12 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:46.719 Trigger warning. 13 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:51.200 This podcast may include explicit content that will take you 14 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:53.960 out of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 15 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:56.359 Listener's discretion is advised. 16 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:27.079 Welcome back to another edition of Cleveland Schwill and I 17 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:30.359 hope that you are all tucked in and cozy in 18 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:35.519 your beds, because let me tell you something. We're about 19 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:40.480 to scare the literal shit out of you. Literal shit. 20 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:43.319 Hey, this is the thought. 21 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:46.200 Were you driving. Don't look in the back seat, there's 22 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.120 probably a ghost. Don't look in the rear view mirror. 23 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:52.359 There's a ghost in the car. That's what we're talking 24 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:56.239 about right now on the Cleveland Swill because this episode 25 00:01:56.280 --> 00:02:04.840 is haunted and I have with me co host Dave Hamilton. Dave, 26 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:09.199 how are you since you've been to the to the 27 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:11.680 undisclosed location we're about to discuss. 28 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.879 Yeah, well, I'm not going to be the one to 29 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:19.319 disclose anything. I just know I'm happy to be here, 30 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:24.000 happy to be alive, to have survived it. I've been 31 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:26.759 getting a lot of comments about a photograph of me 32 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:30.479 that was taken laying down in front of a fireplace, 33 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:35.879 and so we'll get into that maybe a little bit. 34 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:39.120 But yeah, this is awesome. And we've got an even 35 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:41.719 specialer guest today, so this is going to be awesome. 36 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:48.439 Yes, we do. Somebody came into town, into Cleveland, into 37 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:57.159 Cleveland's Ohio city, almost particularly for this residence. This residence 38 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:02.280 happens to be on Franklin Avenue and it was built 39 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:06.039 in the eighteen hundreds, a little bit after or during 40 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:08.759 the Civil War, or a little bit after the Civil War. No, 41 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:15.400 it was after the Civil War. We have Cosmic Peach 42 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:20.199 back with us. What's up? 43 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:26.199 What is up? Brian? I got the goose pimples already. 44 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:30.159 I look like a featherless chicken over here, Brian, I 45 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:32.800 can't wait to get into tonight's episode. 46 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:37.120 I know we did. We're actually doing a dual episode. 47 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:40.520 So this is going to air on your on your 48 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:42.560 feed and on my feed, and this is going to 49 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:46.400 be very interesting. But considering it pertains to Cleveland, I 50 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:51.479 couldn't and we all partake in the event, I couldn't 51 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:52.639 leave it off my channel. 52 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:58.800 Oh absolutely, And I want to ask you, Brian, Yeah, 53 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:00.759 what are you sipping on tonight? 54 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.439 That's a great question. Most people don't ask me that 55 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:08.400 I actually picked up something from a new brewery and 56 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.680 it's something that I actually need. So this brewery is 57 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:15.919 called Mad Tree, and I found out Mad Tree Brewery 58 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:22.000 is out of Cincinnati. The beer is an ipa surprise, surprise. 59 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:30.199 It's called psycho or psychopathy or psychopathy. I don't know 60 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:34.480 how to pronounce it, but whatever is, probably I probably 61 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:36.800 should be diagnosed with it. So let me go ahead 62 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:38.920 and take a simple. 63 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:44.360 Hell. Yeah, that's perfect for our episode tonight. We are 64 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.199 talking about some psycho stuff. 65 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:50.879 Yes we are. We most definitely are. Now did you 66 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:51.959 bring a beverage with you? 67 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:56.319 I did. I do have a beverage. I'll show it 68 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:58.720 to you first, and then you can guess what it is. 69 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:03.120 It looks like right, okay, so it looks like milk, 70 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:05.920 but it is an alcoholic beverage. I'll give you, guys 71 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:12.560 one guess what it is, white, I am drinking living 72 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:22.839 jewel sake. What sake? That's right. It is a Japanese delicacy. Ah, 73 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:28.199 and it's like a milky wine. But it's so delicious, Brian, 74 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.040 get that fucking look off your face. It is so good. 75 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:35.959 Hey, you guys don't want to know what I think 76 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:36.600 it looks like. 77 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:39.079 Do you heat it up? Or do you drink it 78 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:40.240 cold served? 79 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:43.480 Chilled? Over ice? Oh? 80 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:45.759 Okay? Nice? Absolutely? 81 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.680 And when I say over ice, you put. They usually 82 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:51.160 bring it to you in the at the restaurant in 83 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:55.120 a bucket of ice, and you just take the bottle, 84 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.199 pour a little in your glass, and then stick it 85 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.639 back in the ice bucket. And they have all different 86 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:04.160 kinds of sake that aren't as milky as this one, 87 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:08.360 but the alcohol content goes way low when you get 88 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.720 away from these cloudy ones. 89 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:15.240 So what you're telling me is the cloudy ones are 90 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.199 the ones that bring a smile to everyone's face. 91 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:22.079 Yes, including your own. I have to tell you. It's 92 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.759 if you guys have never tried sake, you need to 93 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:29.519 put it on your list because it is delicious. And 94 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:34.680 Zachary actually turned me onto it because he loves anime 95 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:38.079 and he's a big anime guy, and he was like, oh, 96 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.120 I bet you'd like sake, and I was like, that 97 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:44.439 sounds like like a trailer trash beer or something. I'm 98 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:45.240 not drinking that. 99 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:54.120 So I don't have sake tonight, but I do know 100 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:57.199 what sake is, and I've drank it many times, and 101 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:01.160 I like it because you drink it and you you 102 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:05.199 kind of get like wasted quickly and then sort of 103 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:08.560 over it, yep, and it kind of disappears and then 104 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.160 you don't have like that. I just drank at twelve 105 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:15.199 pack of beer hangover or whatever. That's what I like 106 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:17.759 about it. But yes, good choice, and you've just like 107 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:20.399 weigh one up to anything anyone's ever drank on this show. 108 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:23.600 I'm pretty sure good. Yeah. 109 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:25.680 If you drink too much of it, though, you will 110 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:29.959 get this splatty flatulence, so just be careful those with I. 111 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.399 Don't want that aut. 112 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:38.360 Right, So I'm gonna well, listen, I do have a 113 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.639 drink and I'm trying. I'm doing my best Brian impersonation 114 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:47.199 tonight because I also an IPA here. It's from Columbus Brewing, 115 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:50.279 which everyone around here would know. And I think this 116 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:53.920 is called like Body or Bodie. I can't really tell. 117 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:57.160 How Die looks like it's gonna be a good one. 118 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:59.959 I'm gonna crack this bad boy open eight point three 119 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.800 percent alcohol, so I'll be slur half way through it. 120 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:08.560 And yeah, here we go. 121 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:14.240 Cheers, cheers before the episode. 122 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:18.439 Cheers, Cleveland Twill, Cosmic Peach. This is awesome. 123 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:23.160 Yes, all right, bottoms up everyone. 124 00:08:27.920 --> 00:08:33.399 Okay, So the building that we're speaking of top secret, 125 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:36.960 and if you saw the title of the episode, Jordy 126 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:45.240 know what it is. But we are talking about a 127 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.320 very famous building right here in Cleveland, the Franklin Castle, 128 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:54.320 which Hans Tiedaman owned way way back in the eighteen eighties. 129 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:56.720 I think he was the one who built it. Uh 130 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:01.000 in Ohio City. There and we got ourselves a tour, 131 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.279 ladies and gentlemen, we got ourselves a tour. Dave was there, 132 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:12.120 Julia was there, I was there, Cosmic Peach was there. Uh, 133 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:14.399 and it was uh. 134 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:21.320 The imagination, let's call it let's call it a tour, 135 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:22.080 and then some. 136 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:28.399 A tour and then some fuckery, because let's just let's 137 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:33.120 start it off like this. We're all standing outside this 138 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:38.519 gorgeous establishment, outside of the wrought iron gates, and we're 139 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:42.279 just so ready for this thing to get started. I 140 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.320 was on pins and needles. Everyone was on pins and needles. 141 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:51.840 And we meet our host for the night, our tour guide, 142 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.039 and he comes and he lets us in, and we're 143 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:00.840 all very excited to meet him, and I I distinctly 144 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:05.080 remember him being a little bit disheveled and a little 145 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:08.440 bit like I just woke up from a two hour 146 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:13.360 long power nap. Yeah, And I don't know, David, what's 147 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.320 your first impression of our host? 148 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:21.919 My first impression was I was I was intrigued, to 149 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:25.120 be honest with you, and for the first for the 150 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:31.720 first like half hour, I was like sort of really 151 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:38.200 enjoying him. But right away the clock, the internal clock 152 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:41.279 in my head, and people who know me and are 153 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:44.440 close to me know that I get time frames. I'm 154 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:49.440 weird about time frames, and if I'm told something I need, 155 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:53.360 then it needs to be that. And for like the 156 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.320 first half hour of this, I was digging on this 157 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:57.639 guy's stories and he seemed cool. 158 00:10:57.639 --> 00:10:57.960 You're right. 159 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:02.080 The disheveled look was kind of cool and little bourbon 160 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:04.759 on his breath, you know what I mean. It was like, 161 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:08.200 this is like an authentic cool This is who you 162 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:10.720 want showing you around this place, right, that was my 163 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:11.759 first impression. 164 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:16.200 Yeah, it was like home homeboy's been drinking. That's what 165 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:16.679 I thought. 166 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:19.840 Yeah, like we're about to have a good time. He's 167 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.759 nice and loosened up and ready to go. 168 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:24.840 Yeah, this is what. 169 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:28.519 Well And you know what though, that's just I hate 170 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.360 to say it. That's my stereo type of your opinions. 171 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:33.039 I feel like they're always drinking. 172 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.240 So he's wearing like five different types of patterns, like 173 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:42.120 corduroy and some other checkered. He had on like seventeen 174 00:11:42.159 --> 00:11:48.200 different patterns. And it was like my brother had his 175 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:52.159 ticket on his other phone, so he let everybody else 176 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.879 in the gate, and so you ran back out to 177 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.240 your car to get your other phone, and he was like, okay, 178 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.759 well we even wait for him, and then we all 179 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:04.600 go in the house and he doesn't even check that 180 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.039 you have the he just lets you back in. You 181 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:10.240 could have totally just been bullshitting that you had the 182 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:10.919 ticket at. 183 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.720 All, would have thought about it. And looking back on 184 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.399 it too, I realize now he would go from like 185 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:22.360 very nonchalant to like super serious in like quickly, you 186 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:23.799 know what he's saying. 187 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.919 They're going around the castle and it's beautiful and oh 188 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:30.480 look at this. 189 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:31.759 You know what I mean, and you'd just be like. 190 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:35.840 There was like no in between. 191 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:39.639 It was a super nonchalant or you're kicked out. 192 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:45.559 Yeah, Because so the first room that we're escorted into, 193 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:49.960 we go through this beautiful little entryway and it breaks 194 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:53.799 off into a double living room. Is what it looks 195 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:56.960 like to me. It's like definitely like a smoking lounge 196 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:03.159 type of area, and they've painted the walls red. They 197 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:10.080 have some silly looking spiderwebby thing moment happening, and I 198 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:13.159 actually thought it smelt like kind of like sage or 199 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:18.000 they were burning like incense for sure, right, And it 200 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.600 just added to the whole mystique of the room. And 201 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:24.919 you're like, oh my gosh, this is gonna be great. 202 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:29.879 But then he goes, Okay, you take photographs, I'll be back, 203 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:33.679 and then he just slips off through a doorway, closes 204 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:36.480 the door, and he leaves us to our own devices 205 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:39.279 for like, would you say maybe twenty minutes? 206 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:43.519 It was, it was a good long while. And again, 207 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:46.200 think about what you just said. He left us in 208 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:49.639 this room for what maybe twenty minutes? This is supposed 209 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:53.759 to be an hour tour. We were not out of 210 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:56.679 the word. Okay, we were in the first room where 211 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:59.840 you said, there's the incense. We go down into a stairway, 212 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:02.519 we see a stairway. I'm not kidding you. It was 213 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:06.200 a stairway. Then a little door opens up in the 214 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.559 stairway and we're down in this room and I think 215 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:12.440 at that point we had been there for an hour already. Yes, 216 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.559 technically the tour had not begun yet. 217 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:21.919 Really really, yeah, let me just throw you in on 218 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:22.440 how this is. 219 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.519 I'm not going to ruin the tour for anybody by 220 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.000 saying this, but if anybody wants to do this tour, 221 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:30.759 the first thing you got to understand is one, it's 222 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:33.679 not an hour. There's no way it's an hour. This 223 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.039 man is never going to do a one hour tour. Also, 224 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:42.799 if you want to know anything about ghost spirits, hauntings, 225 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:45.600 this is not the tour for you. 226 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.120 If you want to learn about architecture, this is the 227 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:50.759 tour for you. 228 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:53.279 You want to know if you want to know where 229 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:58.039 one of the leaves fell in the backyard thirty years ago, 230 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:03.519 and how it's still there, and that it's doesn't belong 231 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:05.960 to any of the trees in the yard, and that 232 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:10.200 maybe there's a mouse living under a rock somewhere in 233 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:14.080 the house. This is the tour for you. Any any 234 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:17.399 information that you'd be like, that's completely irrelevant. Thank you 235 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.399 for telling you. I wish I never knew that, and 236 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:23.960 I will soon forget it. That's the til you're gonna 237 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:25.039 be hond Yes. 238 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:29.120 Yes, and again, it's not that the things he says 239 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:34.080 aren't to some degree interesting, but it's the wrong sort 240 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:36.480 of it's the wrong sort of thing you would think 241 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:39.240 you'd be going in for. Like like we were saying, 242 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:43.159 it's like he would occasionally mention a creepy story that 243 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:46.879 like some there were bones found here, or there was 244 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:50.279 this or that, but if you said anything about paranormal 245 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:52.679 or spirits or anything, he would do one of the 246 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:55.600 real serious things and he would be like, the house 247 00:15:55.919 --> 00:16:00.720 will tell you if it's haunted or not. Like he'd 248 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:05.320 feel like weird ethereal sort of philosophical things, but never 249 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:08.440 actually say. He would almost get mad if you would 250 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:10.799 say the house was haunted, but then he would make 251 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:13.039 the house have its own personality and stuff. 252 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.399 He would get mad if you if you said the 253 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:17.919 house was haunted, but then tell you that he's had 254 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.679 conversations with no one for fifteen minutes. Yes, I think 255 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:27.039 that it was somebody else. Yes, And like that's the 256 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:28.600 kind of thing that the house would do. 257 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:31.919 And what did you think the video that went viral 258 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.840 that they pulled down because it was just way too viral, 259 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:36.960 that that was like. 260 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:40.879 A servant in the background or something. Somebody took a 261 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:45.200 video in the basement in the servants quarters where we were. 262 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.279 I want to hear you, guys, has you ever heard 263 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.960 of a video beating taket? This was just too viral. 264 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:56.159 We just did we could, guys, it's just way too viral. 265 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.200 We're getting way too much advertisement. 266 00:16:58.480 --> 00:16:59.360 Money on this thing. 267 00:16:59.399 --> 00:16:59.559 Man. 268 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:03.120 We just to pull this thing down. I can't cash 269 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:04.000 all these checks. 270 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:04.720 All it was. 271 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:08.440 He even said they posted it onto their Facebook channel 272 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.039 and it was just going so crazy that they took 273 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:12.759 their Facebook channel down. 274 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:13.519 Yeah. 275 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:18.359 Yeah, you don't just expand your bandwidth, no, yeah, no, 276 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:21.400 you get those followers not in Germany. 277 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.839 He had like this weird creepiness about him, like already, 278 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.759 and then like Brian's sister Kim leans over to me 279 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:35.359 and she's like she won't admit it, but she's totally 280 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:38.039 into this shit, and she like leaned into me and 281 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:42.119 she goes, what if the house really does choose the owner? 282 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:46.480 I mean, think about it, Julie. He's German and he 283 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:50.799 just so happens to be eccentric enough to do this tour. 284 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:56.200 And I was like looking at her and I was like, no, 285 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:01.079 do you really? Because he said everybody moved in moved 286 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:05.079 out exactly two years later on the day, except. 287 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:07.160 For if the house didn't want them. 288 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:09.680 Yes, the house didn't want them. 289 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:12.680 So so let's let's give them a little Let me 290 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:16.920 start from the beginning. We walked in. This is what 291 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.039 you're gonna expect. You're gonna walk in. They're gonna get 292 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:22.440 the group together. I'm gonna give you, guys this whole 293 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.000 tour that we saw in five minutes. This is what happens, 294 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:27.880 all right, and then we can talk about the details. 295 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:32.359 You walk in, you smell alcohol on some breaths. You 296 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:36.319 come in, go into the front door, some kind of 297 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:42.160 ethereal music is playing, incenses lit. Most of the lights 298 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.799 in the house are off, candles lit. You're kind of 299 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:48.319 wondering the structure of the building. You're left to your 300 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.680 own devices. You kind of just walk around for a 301 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:53.759 minute in the rooms. Get to know the people that 302 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:55.680 you're gonna be on the tour with if you talk 303 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:59.079 to them. There's a dining room table, and there's a 304 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:01.519 few couches you're for you to sit anywhere you want. 305 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:05.599 He comes back in the room. You're gonna get a 306 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:07.720 thing about a time machine. He's gonna talk about a 307 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:10.960 time machine. He's gonna talk about stops along the time machine. 308 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:13.880 This time machine is about when the house is built, 309 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.880 several of the different owners that have the house. You 310 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.599 leave that area when he's done talking about the time machine. Granted, 311 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.759 Dave filled you in this. We're already fifty minutes into 312 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:28.759 the tour of what you thought was gonna be a 313 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:30.880 one hour tour. By the time we go to the 314 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:34.240 next room. Go into a next room. He starts asking 315 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:36.559 you to knock on all the walls. You're gonna be 316 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:43.720 knocking on some walls, blow and behold secret passageway. Goom bam, 317 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:46.000 go down to the right. 318 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:53.519 Just wait the way you're desscribing it, you're gonna knock 319 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:57.240 on some walls, blow mill secret way. 320 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:02.720 Because I have to cut out the part where he's 321 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.079 asking you for fifteen minutes straight, look at this wood. 322 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:08.319 Look at the Did you know this wood comes from 323 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:10.880 the east side of Cleveland? Look at you? No, stop 324 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:15.039 everything you're doing. Stop breathing. Hey, look you missed one. 325 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.720 Of the important details though, for this to make sense, 326 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:21.160 which is his flashlight that hardly works. 327 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:25.000 Oh, he has to press the button seventeen times to 328 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:25.359 get it. 329 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:34.440 To the so he'll be like, look at this. Oh, 330 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:38.839 then it goes look at this uh door hinge. 331 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:42.400 He How many times did he make a stupid joke 332 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:44.759 or something where he'd be like, boy, if I just 333 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:47.640 would have been in the new flashlight by now, I 334 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:50.680 was all right if this toolton by now. He said 335 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:52.039 that like six times. 336 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:55.000 It was only funny the first time because then we 337 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:57.759 were like, get that fight fly fight on it. 338 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:01.799 Oh good and it I couldn't stand. 339 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:05.039 It because okay, Brian, we're knocking on the door, We're 340 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:08.160 knocking on the walls. Lo and behold, secret passageway. 341 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.960 Proceed very narrow stairway like. 342 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:16.799 Which is actually had like caution tape on it. 343 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.960 I don't think if you're handicapped, I don't think you 344 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:22.200 should take this tour. I'm not saying that as a dick. 345 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:25.240 I'm not saying that in a rude way. If you 346 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:28.720 have if you even have trouble walking, or if you're 347 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:33.000 like severely overweight, I wouldn't do the tour. You're gonna 348 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:38.240 kill yourself. That stairwell, that stairwell. My knees hurt looking 349 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:40.799 at that stairwell. I started going down and had to 350 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:43.880 do one stair at a time. It's this windy stairwell 351 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:48.400 and the stairs are like four inches wide, so you've 352 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.000 got to put your foot sideways. And it was an 353 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:55.640 old servant's stairwell, so the servants would stand these quarters 354 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:57.799 in the basement, and if somebody knocked on the door, 355 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:01.519 it was a secret passageway up to the front door. 356 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:05.920 But you're in this basement and he's like, well, some 357 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.799 pipes run under here and it causes all sorts of 358 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:15.480 humidity and condensation, and then that heats up. You go 359 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:22.160 down there, you can't see shit. It is complete steam everywhere. 360 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.440 Can't see your hand in front of your face. Frankly, 361 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:27.839 I don't know what we were breathing in. I think 362 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:32.880 it was hallucinogenics. I'm not gonna lie. Uh, probably some 363 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:38.000 sort of hallucinogenics. It's trying to make you think that 364 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:40.559 the seventeen hour tour you were just on is only 365 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:41.279 five minutes. 366 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:47.359 Anybody that in HeLa, anybody need any hala? 367 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:49.279 Anybody here asthmatic? 368 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:55.279 Okay, moving on? So the tool like, I mean, he 369 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:59.599 just but but let's face it, so so Brian. The 370 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:04.079 next maneuver you and I both agree was really just 371 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:06.960 an excuse for him to leave the room, to to 372 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:10.599 have some more have some more spirits. 373 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:14.119 Yeah. Yeah, that that. You know, I'm starting to think 374 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:17.720 the only spirits that were in the Franklin Castle we're 375 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:19.480 the ones in his bourbon bottle. 376 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.039 I will say that by the end of the tour, 377 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.759 all like all any anybody's ideas about what was going 378 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:33.200 on with the castle, all the creepiness was really just 379 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:34.519 coming from him. 380 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:35.920 Yeah. 381 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:38.480 All the stories were like you get because Brian said 382 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:40.160 it all at once, where it was just at all 383 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.759 hit us. He's like, aren't you real You've got this 384 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:45.359 German accent. It's like, are we being led around this 385 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.079 castle by a ghost right now? Is that what's actually happening? 386 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:50.839 And honestly, that was the most interesting idea I had 387 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:55.400 the entire time I was there. Was that that, and 388 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:57.640 he was leading us around there, and there was going 389 00:23:57.720 --> 00:23:59.440 to be a twist at the end. I wanted it 390 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.240 to happen so bad, but really, bus Brian just left. 391 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:14.640 Yes, we're down there in this freaking misty, dusty basement, 392 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:20.519 and he leaves again for another like twenty minutes, and 393 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:24.519 he's like, take some photos in this Mira and then 394 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:29.079 don't look now, check them later. And it's like, okay, 395 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:31.640 but it didn't take twenty minutes for all eight of 396 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:32.759 us to take a picture. 397 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.200 Well, not only that, but before he slides out, he 398 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:40.440 tries to like leave you with something. I don't know 399 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:44.400 if this is philosophical or what, but he leaves you 400 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:48.160 with unanswered questions. So you'll be down there and they'll 401 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:52.519 be like a chair that looks like something you'd see 402 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.519 on bult garbage day on the side of the road 403 00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:02.039 and it's all beat up. He's like, dad's a story 404 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:11.359 behind this chair, and the story is extremely interesting, and 405 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:19.039 I'm not going to tell you what happens. Why. I 406 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:22.640 remember him saying that, He's like, the story behind this 407 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:28.440 chair will give you chills up and down your spine. 408 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:35.880 Am I real I don't know, Bye, that's what he said. 409 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:38.440 And then you'd say is this place haunted? And he 410 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:42.119 would say, how dare you? How dare you even say 411 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:47.000 that this place was haunted? And it's like, so the 412 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:48.440 whole look at him. 413 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:50.319 And be like, you do realize each one of us 414 00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:54.240 paid thirty five dollars because we believe this place is haunted. 415 00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:58.880 None of us give a flying fuck about Hans Tenamin 416 00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:04.559 or anybody else. Maybe it's I mean, granted. 417 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:07.240 Yeah. 418 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.559 One of the more interesting things he did say, though, 419 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.440 is that there was a part of the room that's 420 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:19.759 like carved out in like a weird ornamental shape, and 421 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:22.960 he was like, does anybody know what they use this 422 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.920 part of the room for? And I was like thinking, 423 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.680 I don't know, it's kind of awkward. Maybe it was 424 00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:31.559 like a smoking area or something like that. And then 425 00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:34.000 he drops the bomb on us that they used to 426 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.640 prop up dead bodies and drap them up and take 427 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:43.480 photographs of them in that and like have full displays of. 428 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:45.559 The body, which is something that was common in the 429 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:47.000 eighteen hundreds that we. 430 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:48.640 Learned that was crazy. 431 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:52.160 Yeah, well that's that's just it. There were some really 432 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.440 cool things about the house, but we didn't need to 433 00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.960 hear about each one for a half hour or like 434 00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:02.279 a wallpaper. Yeah, that's basically the bottom line. If it 435 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.640 like Brian's, if you just want to see a really 436 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:09.960 really cool place, go look at this place. You should. 437 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:11.880 It's like, it's got a really cool vibe. 438 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.359 I'm telling you that you could make that place. If 439 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:17.000 you did an hour tour of that place with with 440 00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:20.359 just the good stories and they edited it, it'd be 441 00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:23.000 one of the best tours in Cleveland, no hands down, 442 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.599 no question in my mind. Dude. 443 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.359 If they actually did keep that to an hour tour, 444 00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:30.680 you would love it, You really would. You would love it. 445 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:32.920 You get you through that whole house in an hour. 446 00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:35.759 And he's like they propped up the dead people, you know, 447 00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.799 like when somebody died, his daughter died, they had the funeral. 448 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:41.240 Here you're standing where that happened. 449 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:41.920 Blah blah blah. 450 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.519 People are like that's interesting, Oh that's different. But then 451 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:47.640 when you're walking by and then and then you just 452 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:49.720 walk right out of there and you go right down, 453 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.920 He's like, start knocking on the walls. Oh, look, secret passage. 454 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:57.440 I don't give a shit. The wood came from a 455 00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:01.400 game a stand, dude, I don't give a shit. Nobody 456 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:04.400 gives a shit in Cleveland where that wood came from 457 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.599 the only way people care if where the wood comes 458 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.039 from is if it literally came from Cleveland. And they're like, oh, 459 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.359 this particular builder in Cleveland, and he said that for 460 00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:16.240 one part of it. I'm like, that's kind of interesting. 461 00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:19.400 But once you start getting into where every little thing 462 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:23.000 comes from, where every little hinge on the door comes from, 463 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:27.200 where every window pane comes from, that's interesting to you 464 00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.559 because you rebuilt the house, which is awesome, and you 465 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.359 you rebuilt it from original floor plants, and that's something 466 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:35.839 you can bring up right then in there and tell 467 00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.960 everybody about. And you worked with the city of Cleveland. 468 00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:42.880 That stuff can be interesting. Yeah, but the extras, you 469 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.480 gotta know where to cut yourself off. Give us. 470 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.680 Give us one fact. I like the kind of tour guys. 471 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:50.920 And you know, now that I've been on this sort 472 00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:52.920 of tour where it just went way, way too long, 473 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.720 I appreciate those kind of tour guides. Now where they're 474 00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:57.759 kind of dragging you around. And if someone else was 475 00:28:57.799 --> 00:28:59.559 doing that tour, they'd be like and over there in 476 00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:03.200 that they actually held funerals back in the eighteen hundreds. 477 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:05.039 That was like a thing that they did. 478 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.200 But anyway, moving on, we got lots to see, like 479 00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.039 that's who you want. You want that person, like, hey, 480 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:13.160 you in the back trying to vape moving. 481 00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.440 It reminds me of that scene. There was a scene 482 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.759 in Gremlins too, I think, and it was a joke 483 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.279 on people that do like tours in places, and I 484 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.160 never forgot it and I used to laugh at it. 485 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.160 But this is truly what this door needed. And it 486 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:29.119 would be like, hey, they used to do some funerals 487 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:31.279 over there. They'd put some coins over the eyes and 488 00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.720 everybody come and visit. We're moving, we're moving. We're all 489 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.680 moving together. We're moving. Walk with me. We're moving. We're moving. 490 00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:42.200 We're moving, We're moving. That's what you need to do 491 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:42.799 in that tour. 492 00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:43.359 That's it. 493 00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:47.440 Yeah, if the whole group, we're moving, we're moving. Everybody, 494 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.480 we're moving. Over here, come on, let's go. It's just 495 00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:54.359 nice and quick and people as long as they're interacting 496 00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.839 with the house and with an individual and they're moving, 497 00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.000 They're gonna be intrigued. They may even walk. 498 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:05.960 More, leave them wanting more. Man exactly, that's the name 499 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:06.480 of the game. 500 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:14.559 Speaking of wanting more, myself and our cousin had to 501 00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.519 go to the bathroom and that threw him off because 502 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:19.319 he didn't want us to go to the bathroom. And 503 00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.599 he was like, Okay, use, you have to go to 504 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:28.839 the bathroom. And then after we got back you Brian 505 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:35.200 started telling an actually interesting story that everyone was super 506 00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:37.640 captivated by and that pissed him off. 507 00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.039 A pin drop into you that story. 508 00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.680 Can you tell the story for the listeners tonight, especially 509 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:47.559 my listeners who have never heard it before. 510 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:50.640 Okay, I will, and if and we actually told this 511 00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:56.200 story on Cleveland twelve podcast, yes, on our Halloween episode, 512 00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:03.279 and and I'm gonna kind of just give it the gist. 513 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.400 But there is a cemetery and I wish I could 514 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:09.119 remember the name of it, but it's right where seventy 515 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:13.240 one and twenty fifth Street meet. It's an old cemetery, okay, 516 00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:19.519 And on certain nights there is a hitchhiker that hangs 517 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:24.000 out outside the cemetery. And this hitchhiker has been seen 518 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:28.880 for over the course, like by several people over the 519 00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:34.559 course of like eighty years, ninety years. There's various tales 520 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:37.599 of so many different people in so many different time 521 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:42.519 periods and so many different decades picking up this hitchhiker, okay, 522 00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.759 and the hitchhiker is always described the exact same way, 523 00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:53.720 Victorian era type clothing, very neatly dressed, looks to be 524 00:31:54.079 --> 00:32:01.279 affluent or wealthy. And you'll get into the vehicle that 525 00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:05.640 they speak with a thick German accent, and they asked 526 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:11.960 to go to a particular house of Franklin Avenue, and 527 00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.960 they will make small talk with whoever is the driver, 528 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:21.640 and then when they get dropped off, they will take 529 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.599 a few steps out of the car and disappear. But 530 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.839 there was a time in the nineteen eighties I've lived. 531 00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:35.160 It was nineteen eighty one that an individual picked up 532 00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:45.400 a hitchhiker there and he was speaking German to the driver, 533 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:50.240 and the driver reiterated what he had heard, which I 534 00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:53.799 can't remember what it was in German, but it translated 535 00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.720 into I need to see my daughter or something along 536 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:04.079 those lines. I'm going to see my daughter and gave 537 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.920 him the address. He shows up, he said I'll be 538 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:12.559 right back. And he actually watched this individual get out, 539 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:17.680 walk all the way into the house, close the door 540 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.400 behind him, and he waited for this person to come 541 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.799 back out because he had said something to him about 542 00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:30.480 it is the anniversary of my daughter and I need 543 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:35.759 to see her. And he's like, man, he has been 544 00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:37.680 in there forever, and I'm waiting for him to come 545 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.759 back up. Well, he never comes back out. So this 546 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.319 guy contacts the police. He thinks something might have happened 547 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.279 to him, you know, because he went up to the door, 548 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.960 he's knocking on the door and nobody comes out. He 549 00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:51.720 ends up calling the police and they end up doing 550 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:55.599 this investigation and they come to find out that that 551 00:33:55.799 --> 00:34:01.640 was the one hundredth anniversary of Hi Tiedeman's daughter's death, 552 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.519 and he believes it was Hans Tiedeman who was going 553 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:12.599 into say his goodbyes to his or on the anniversary 554 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.440 of his daughter's death to reunite with his daughter for 555 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:20.760 a night. But that was a very interesting Cleveland ghost 556 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:22.920 story to me, and I told it, and when I 557 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:24.719 told it, I said, you know, this is the door 558 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.559 that he dropped him off to. Right up there, we're 559 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.679 standing right next to that door now, to be honest 560 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.840 with everybody, and I don't know. You had kind of 561 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:39.880 told me how you felt, but I never really felt 562 00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:43.000 anything in any of the rooms that we were in, 563 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:45.840 never felt a creepy vibe except for one of them. 564 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:48.159 But Dave, did you ever have any creepy vibes in 565 00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:49.320 that house? 566 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:55.639 Not really? I do want to say though you hearing 567 00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:59.559 the story you just told standing within the walls of 568 00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.599 that house does definitely give it a different tone and feel. 569 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.239 Oh yeah, And it totally pissed our German to a 570 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:07.920 guide off. 571 00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:08.400 He did. 572 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:10.000 He wasn't one to have it. 573 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:11.559 He didn't want to hear it at all, which I 574 00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:14.599 thought was crazy. But as as far as as far 575 00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:18.719 as feeling creepy vibes in the house, like, seriously, for me, 576 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:23.360 that wasn't going to happen because of my I've got 577 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:27.719 I'm obsessive compulsive with time frames. And I even said 578 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.480 to somebody when we were standing down in that first 579 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.679 smoky room, it was either you, Julie or Kim, but 580 00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:35.360 one of you. I was standing there next to and 581 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.119 I and I literally said, I'm running the numbers here 582 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.639 and there is no way this is a one hour 583 00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.119 two I said, unless he's unless he's literally gonna walk 584 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.760 us through that door and say here's a hallway tours over. 585 00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:48.760 This isn't going to be an hour tour. 586 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.679 But you know, you told me, and I was kind 587 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:53.880 of like at the time, I was like, well, maybe 588 00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.639 it speeds up, Like after we get out of this room, 589 00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.559 he's like taking us up the stairs and then it's 590 00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:02.039 kind of like over. Then. I would like, as we 591 00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:06.119 like we left out of the smokey basement, and then 592 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.840 when he got to the second time where he was 593 00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.639 gathering all of us up and he started clicking his 594 00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:15.480 fucking flashlight again, I was like, oh, no, it doesn't 595 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:16.199 speed up. 596 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:19.800 It doesn't speed up. But as far as creepiness, let's 597 00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.280 move on to the room where Brian said he felt 598 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.719 his first creepy vibe. That that's where I would say 599 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:32.280 probably I did feel some some off puttedness in that 600 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.400 room where he had the pagan music. It was the 601 00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:36.519 murder happened. 602 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:41.119 Yes, I got straight up lightheadedness. Even in that room. 603 00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:42.880 It was like as soon as you walked into it, 604 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:44.960 you kind of felt like, oh, like. 605 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.880 What is this was a definite denseness to that room 606 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.519 and sort of like just an uncomfortable feeling. And Brian, 607 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.519 that's what Brian had said too. He was just like, yeah, 608 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:57.519 I you know, he goes, I up. What did you say, Brian? 609 00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.679 You go, I honestly haven't felt one paranormal feeling this 610 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:03.800 entire until we've gotten in this room right here. 611 00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:08.519 Yeah, and don't I don't bullshit with that stuff. If 612 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.760 I go to a location and I don't feel anything anywhere, 613 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:14.599 that's what I'm gonna say. I don't feel it. I'm 614 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:18.320 not feeling it. I'm not scared. I got in there, 615 00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.639 and you know the one thing I will say. And 616 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.519 I don't know if this played into my psyche at 617 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:28.199 that point, but he had made a comment about he 618 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:32.519 never feels secure in that room. He doesn't like being 619 00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.320 in that room, he doesn't feel well in that room. Okay, 620 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:39.280 he did say that before we entered the room. Then 621 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:44.039 we're in the room and he had purposely put some 622 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:48.679 things in there that would make you a little creeped out. 623 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:52.679 I don't know about you, guys, I don't this is 624 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:57.079 gonna sound so bad, but I don't feel like when 625 00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:03.000 I see particular religious objects placed in certain rooms where 626 00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:06.719 you know it's not a religious household. But you have 627 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:11.519 all these religious I think it's like you're putting up 628 00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:16.079 a specific vibe. And there was a picture in there, guys, 629 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.960 of a seductive Jesus. And when I'm talking about seductive Jesus, 630 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.119 there was something on his face. It was like the 631 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:26.280 smirk on his face. I'd never it almost looked like 632 00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:30.159 one of those goofy pictures of Jesus that you would see. 633 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.639 And it was like a mockery. 634 00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:38.559 It was as was huge bogynous. It was almost androgynists, 635 00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:43.239 like like if real Jesus and Freddie Mercury had a baby. 636 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:44.280 Yeah. 637 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:48.400 Yeah, it was freaking weird. And then like right behind 638 00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:53.159 him as he's talking about this room, I got major, major, 639 00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:56.119 major creeps in that room. But he has like an 640 00:38:56.119 --> 00:39:00.159 old fashioned record player going and then the record to 641 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:06.039 cover sleeve for display and it says pagan festival. 642 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:12.000 Yes, and that's purposeful. It's purpose all purposeful. 643 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.519 Yeah. And and like I said, so it's a it's 644 00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.360 an interesting thing to Brian's point though, where he goes, hey, man, 645 00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.480 if I'm having a weird feeling, I'll tell you or 646 00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:27.559 if I'm not. Because within a half power, we were 647 00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.960 in another room and Brian was accusing the guy. 648 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:34.199 Can you beat that because you. 649 00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:37.320 Broke up really bad there. 650 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.360 Your microphone, No, I said, I said, I know Brian 651 00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:44.840 will be straight up if he's feeling uncomfortable in a 652 00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.199 room or not. Because within a half hour of leaving 653 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:49.400 that room, he was accusing the guy of buying his 654 00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:56.039 artwork at a yard sale in the next room. 655 00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:58.599 I'm straight up said that to him too. 656 00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:02.079 You freaking call him out. But before we even get 657 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:04.679 to that part, I have to say something you guys 658 00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:10.000 skipped over. Is he said something about like Michelle, somebody 659 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:14.960 chamber or someone who had some kind of stock in Yahoo, 660 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.159 had bought the Franklin Castle before and she had thrown 661 00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.400 some kind of a party. And then after the party, 662 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:26.519 some guy broke into the basement and he set the 663 00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:31.119 Franklin Castle on fire. He was trying to burn out 664 00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:35.239 the evil spirits. And then immediately after that we went 665 00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.800 into the creepiest fucking room in the whole castle. 666 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:43.880 Yeah, and that room too, somebody was killed in that room. 667 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:48.480 They were killing, like murder style murder in that room. 668 00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:53.599 And it was kind of like it was servant quarters 669 00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:55.880 for a little while. It was a honeymoon suite. It 670 00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:59.639 was like where the butler stayed, and it was where 671 00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:03.880 that mache stayed. That she was one of the I 672 00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:07.280 don't know if I would say founding member of Yahoo, 673 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:11.480 but she's like late nineties working at Yahoo, probably one 674 00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:17.039 of twenty employees. And I'm sure, as you know, Yahoo 675 00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:20.079 got bigger and bigger during that time, she was, you know, 676 00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:24.280 falling into a little bit more money. Purchased. The property, 677 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:27.760 had a Halloween party and this guy comes to the 678 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:33.519 Halloween party and he was invited, Like they invited a 679 00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:37.199 bunch of people to this Halloween party at the Franklin Castle. 680 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:41.199 And everybody knew back then, guys, around the year two thousand, 681 00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:44.239 the Franklin Castle had the same reputation as it does today. 682 00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:48.719 Haunted place, one of those haunted locations in Cleveland. We 683 00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:52.679 all know that, right. And this guy straight up was like, 684 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:54.960 I'm going to get rid of this place. It's evil 685 00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:59.400 and a lot of stuff has happened there. I mean, 686 00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:05.320 as we're going through the tour, he even the current 687 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.920 owners talking about like when they were knocking down certain 688 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:12.559 parts of the wall, they're finding Nazi artifacts that he 689 00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:17.159 says he throws away. I mean, even me, you guys. 690 00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.719 I don't. I don't believe in Nazism, but I'd still 691 00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.719 be like, that's kind of fucking cool. 692 00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.960 You know, a piece of history that's been buried within 693 00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:27.599 the house. 694 00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.239 Yeah. Yeah, it's not like you just burn this stuff 695 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.920 or whatever. You're like, this stuff's interesting because it's a 696 00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:44.880 part of history. But anyway, that's just me personally, because 697 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:48.559 you know, all regimes and and and people in history 698 00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:51.880 have done horrible things. So it's just like, I don't mean, 699 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:53.760 where do you morally draw the line. 700 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.280 Well, listen, it's if you dug up a time capsule 701 00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:59.639 that you had no idea that was there, you know 702 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:01.920 what I mean, two hundred years from now and it 703 00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:06.400 just happened to be all full of Nazi shit. Yeah, 704 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:10.280 mega interesting. And that's like, you know what I mean, 705 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.519 that's just the thing. It's the history of someone put 706 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:14.119 it there. They threw it in there. Okay, they were 707 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:17.519 crazy people, but still they left a big thing. Let's 708 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.679 look at it. Same kind of deal with that castle. 709 00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:22.199 You go in there and you say to yourself. And 710 00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.000 I thought that the tour guy actually made an interesting 711 00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:28.159 point where he said certain things they don't they don't 712 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.400 digging to find things within the walls, because the way 713 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:33.199 he put it was he says, these things need to 714 00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:35.960 be discovered as they're meant to be discovered. And I 715 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.800 thought that was kind of a good anecdote, you know 716 00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.079 about like a house mm hmm. 717 00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.639 Yeah, So the house definitely has some history, and we 718 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.920 can get into some of that at the end, you know, 719 00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.159 after we're done talking about the tour, we've talked about 720 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.280 some of the real history. But it was it was 721 00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:57.199 I mean, that kind of stuff is interesting, and those 722 00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:02.239 little snippets I think would be interesting to anybody, like, yeah, 723 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:05.480 what he found there? What is there? 724 00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:11.480 Well for Julie though, like your your audience, especially when 725 00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:14.000 you really do think about that that guy was invited 726 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:18.639 to the party. Okay, he must have been a fairly 727 00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:21.599 normal person if you're being invited to a party like that, 728 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.480 right to a person who's healthy and has the kind 729 00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.199 of money to buy that place or whatever, and for 730 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.599 you to kind of be convinced in the short time 731 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.400 you're in that house at a party that the place 732 00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:33.599 is evil. It kind of makes you wonder what his 733 00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:36.519 experience was. And I think I'm right now having a 734 00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.239 really cool idea for a screenplay. 735 00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:41.360 What's the screenplay. 736 00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.239 Well, think about it. You get invited to this Franklin 737 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.400 Castle place, and it's just the crazy experience this guy 738 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.599 has that leads him to burn it down at the end, 739 00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:53.599 and by the end of the movie you have to 740 00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:56.119 be agreeing with him that the place needs to be burned. 741 00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:00.840 Yeah, by his perspective, if you don't know what a 742 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.880 person's perspective is, you know, is he more in tune 743 00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:11.639 with certain things than other people are, right, something whispering 744 00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:12.480 to him. 745 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.800 Like the Amityville House, Like he got in there and 746 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.400 then like he was shiny, yeah. 747 00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:24.199 Shiny, shining talking to them that other people are like, 748 00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:26.239 you're crazy now, and then he's. 749 00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:28.039 Like, this place has got to go. 750 00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:34.119 Some people are really in tune with weird stuff like that. Yeah. 751 00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:36.519 That's why I think for me it makes for such 752 00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:40.440 a great movie type story because anything could have happened 753 00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:42.880 to him. We don't know. It could have been it 754 00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:44.960 could have been fourteen oh eight up in there for 755 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.519 an hour, you know what, Like he just came out 756 00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:50.639 and was like, this place got a fucking burn, you know. 757 00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.559 But that to me is the interesting part of that 758 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:56.960 guy just needing to burn the place because listen, I've 759 00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:59.119 had weird thoughts where I was like, this place creeps 760 00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:02.159 me out. Never been enough to make me actually go 761 00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:04.079 back and sneak in and burn a place down. 762 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.880 And you know what they said, it burnt for two 763 00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:11.440 hours straight and it's still standing. 764 00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:16.039 Yeah. Yeah, Well we know there's wood particles everywhere. We 765 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:16.960 saw them at. 766 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:22.119 Way wo wo whoa wah. Don't even tell that story yet, Brian. 767 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:24.840 What happens after we get out of the creepy. 768 00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:29.239 Room, Well, this is where things start to get fuzzy 769 00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.440 for me, because the only things I started thinking about 770 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:36.599 was eating food and leaving. Yes, but once we left 771 00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:40.480 that room, so so to put things in perspective, guys, 772 00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:42.639 it sounds like, oh, hey, I would have you know, 773 00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:45.960 you got some extra time in the house. That's great. 774 00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.360 Show up at five forty five. You're like, you know what, 775 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.840 let's make plans to have dinner after we leave. This 776 00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.239 is a one hour tour, will be out at seven. 777 00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.920 There's plenty of restaurants that I want to eat at 778 00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:04.480 in Ohio City, which was one hundred percent our playing. Okay, 779 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:12.360 everybody went there not eating dinner because we believed a 780 00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:15.360 one hour tour meant one hour tour. 781 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:17.360 Sixty minutes. 782 00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:22.400 We were on our one and a half almost two hours. 783 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:26.159 We're probably on hour two when we left that room 784 00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:29.480 that I'm talking about where the murder had occurred, where 785 00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:34.599 sexual Jesus is shown, where you know, we all had 786 00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:38.079 a creepy feeling, and pagan records are being played, which, 787 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:40.679 by the way, you go, well, how many records could 788 00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.920 be at this guy's disposal. Let me tell you, well, 789 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.360 over five thousand to ten thousand records are sitting in 790 00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:50.599 the Franklin Castle right now. Look it up. A record 791 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:54.840 company bought out some of the rooms up there, and 792 00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.039 they have thousands upon thousands of records. He could have chose, Yes, 793 00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:03.920 pagan fest is what plays, and that's on purpose. Let's 794 00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:04.760 not mistake him. 795 00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:06.480 Pagan Festival. 796 00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:13.280 So we leave that room and we go upstairs now, 797 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.840 and you're kind of backwards at this point, you're like 798 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.559 in this labyrinth. You kind of lose track of where 799 00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:24.719 you're at. And he shows an office and goes into 800 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:28.199 where you know, this is a small office and people 801 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:31.559 didn't have offices back then, and blah blah blah blah blah, 802 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:35.239 you got this office. And then he talks about offices downtown. 803 00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:38.559 Then he talks about offices in the house, and you're like, 804 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:41.880 you're trying to keep trap, like you think I'm going 805 00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:45.880 in circles. You be in the house listening to him. 806 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:48.920 You're like, where is he going with this house is downtown? 807 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.480 So next thing you know, and then I don't know 808 00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:57.119 where he's like and that is how key Banks started downtown. 809 00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:59.159 And you're like, well, I still don't know how it 810 00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:03.199 started because I don't know when you started, what you're 811 00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:05.719 talking about, and when you ended. And all I know 812 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:09.960 is that my stomach is growling and blah blah blah 813 00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:15.920 blah blah. So finally we go into this he dramatically 814 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:21.320 opens this wall and there's a bedroom there and I'm 815 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.119 sitting there and I'm finally like, oh, this is pretty cool. 816 00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:27.639 I pull out my phone. You guys, I hadn't taken 817 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.920 one f and picture the whole time. Everybody else had 818 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:35.199 had seventeen hours of footage. Yep. I pulled my phone 819 00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.480 out for five seconds, and he goes, we do not 820 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:46.280 take pictures. Yeah, I can kill no fold up. 821 00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:47.039 You know. 822 00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.639 I snuck every single video that I had on my phone. 823 00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.360 I snuck it, like while you guys were going up 824 00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:57.599 with the tour. I hung back and I waited till 825 00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.360 he wasn't looking, and I like panned my phone around 826 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.800 the room and that's the way. And I had somebody 827 00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:05.880 comment on that video I made in there, like, oh, 828 00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:07.719 it looks like you guys had a really cool tour, 829 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.440 and I was like, dude, I snuck all of those 830 00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.679 fucking photos and videos I snuck around. They wouldn't even 831 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:16.199 let you take any videos. 832 00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:18.320 That's true, dude. 833 00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:21.639 I will also say they've done a really good job 834 00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.039 of that over the years, I guess, because like if 835 00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:28.039 you go on dude, for any place that's like a 836 00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:32.880 notoriously haunted place like the Franklin Castle, is you if 837 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:35.400 you go on YouTube or any of these places, there's 838 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:40.079 just gonna be hundreds of documentaries about it, right, Like 839 00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:43.320 you could just go right on there the Middlefield Penitentiary 840 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:45.360 or these places, you know what I mean, or whatever 841 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:48.800 like that. And it's like, for some reason, there's almost 842 00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:53.679 nothing about Franklin Castle that's worth even remotely looking at, right, 843 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.480 but he needs to do like a killer documentary about 844 00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:59.960 Franklin isn't one right now? 845 00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:07.480 There is? That is true? There is a whole Wikipedia 846 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:08.280 page though. 847 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:15.400 Yeah, but people like visual like like being in the video, 848 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.840 like looking around and like hearing someone narrating, like this 849 00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:21.199 is this and this is this. 850 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.000 There isn't anything like that for Franklin Castle. 851 00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:24.480 No. 852 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:27.519 I know that this is where this happened, and this 853 00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.840 is where this happened, and this is what story happened. 854 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:33.480 Basically, give you the tour that we were looking to 855 00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:37.360 have before we got fucking full bledged Gilligan's Island up 856 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:41.320 in there. You know, no shit turn into a three 857 00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:41.960 hour tour. 858 00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:46.719 This is the same room though, where he asked our 859 00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:49.360 cousin Brittany. He was like, what time is it? And 860 00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:53.480 she was like, it's eight forty five and he was like, 861 00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:55.280 is everyone going on time? 862 00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:55.679 Now? 863 00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:57.079 Time? 864 00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:01.079 Okay? Moving on, And dude, I told you from the 865 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.320 minute we were in the smoky room in the basement, 866 00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:06.079 my PTSD was just full kicked in that we were 867 00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:09.320 off schedule. I cannot stand to be on that tubes. 868 00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.480 You guys, this is the thing that bothers me. You're 869 00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:17.280 doing tours for people. I understand you're extremely into your 870 00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.159 craft and you're remodeling and you want to tell everybody 871 00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.039 about it because it's like telling somebody about your art 872 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:25.639 and you think, oh, I've got all these great listeners 873 00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.280 to that are so interested in my artwork. The reality 874 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.639 is none of us are interested in your in your artwork. 875 00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:35.800 That sucks for me to say that. I mean, I 876 00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:38.440 am a little bit. Maybe you know enough for you 877 00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:40.079 to tell me how you did this, that and the 878 00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:44.840 other thing, but intricate details. No, everybody's there to hear 879 00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:48.519 ghost stories, stories about the house, history of the house, 880 00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:53.000 what happened where, Yeah, blah blah blah blah blah. That's it. Hey. 881 00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:55.519 Basically, what you're saying is it would have been just 882 00:52:55.559 --> 00:52:58.119 as fun and interesting had we been in the burnt 883 00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:03.280 out Franklin Castle hearing those stories. Now, granted, I love 884 00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:06.360 that they're restoring the place, and I think it's really cool. 885 00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.559 I'm so glad they're doing that work, you know what 886 00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:11.039 I mean. But for the point of what we were 887 00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:13.559 going for, it very well could have just been a 888 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:16.159 burnt out building and we could have just been pointing 889 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:18.719 at things and saying, that's where a body was, that's 890 00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:20.760 where this was, that's where that was, and it would 891 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:22.920 have been just as good for us, because you could 892 00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:26.119 not better, if not better, if not better because you 893 00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:28.480 could use your imagination for the whole thing, and you're 894 00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:31.360 not looking at weird wallpaper that he made himself, which, 895 00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:33.519 by the way, why do you care about wallpaper that 896 00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:36.639 isn't original to the house. That's what we're trying to 897 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:41.119 talk about. And like, you know, it's good have it 898 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:43.360 there because it sets a mood and a tone, But 899 00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.639 don't then go on and tell a big story about 900 00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:49.119 how you made it. No one cares, right, Yeah. 901 00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:52.480 And it was like this room too, and he totally 902 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:56.840 blew his chance of making it super creepy because after 903 00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:00.559 we went from the bedroom into the little parlor area. Uh, 904 00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:04.679 he vaguely mentioned that this is the room where everyone 905 00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:09.119 sees the woman in black standing in the window from outside. 906 00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:13.360 I was standing right there, and guys, by that time, 907 00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:16.159 I couldn't have given a shit less. She could have 908 00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:18.159 been standing behind me and I would have been like, 909 00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:20.719 are you ready to go to let's. 910 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:25.119 He did say though, that he saw the woman in 911 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:26.480 black ones in that room. 912 00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:28.480 Yes, he did. 913 00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:30.679 Him and two of the other owners are the only 914 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:32.480 three people to ever have seen her. 915 00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:36.400 That's what he said. That's what he said. Yeah, And 916 00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:42.880 again his credibility wanes, but you know. Uh, here's here's 917 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:44.599 what I find funny too, and maybe you guys will 918 00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:48.159 agree with this. We spent so much freaking time in 919 00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:51.360 those first like three rooms, the stairway and the firt 920 00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:53.880 you know what I mean whatever, that by the time 921 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:58.400 you really did start getting to some really cool, interesting rooms, 922 00:54:58.440 --> 00:54:59.920 we were just kind of flying through. 923 00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:03.119 So yeah, that is true though. 924 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.559 So like this bedroom that we were in with like 925 00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:11.239 the little parlor, when we went through this like closet 926 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:14.320 thing into the sitting room that led to like this 927 00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:17.119 other thing and then we circle back around. I looked 928 00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:19.760 at one of the bookshelves and he had this like 929 00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:23.880 little stone thing. It was a completely empty bookshelf, but 930 00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:27.159 he had like five stones in a circle and then 931 00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.840 like a big stone in the middle, and I was like, this, dude, 932 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:33.440 I almost feel like they're kind of like trying to 933 00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:37.480 channel stuff in because I looked online and that's the 934 00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.599 bedroom that they rent out for like an airbnb thing. 935 00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:48.039 Yeah. Well, the those marble bathrooms are just amazing. Ok, 936 00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:51.159 probably one of the prettiest bathrooms I've ever been into 937 00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.000 my life. And I have a thing for bathroom so 938 00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.840 I don't know, like I love the bathrooms from the shining. 939 00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.320 I think those are like the greatest room and like, 940 00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:02.159 so that bathroom sort of reminded me of that. It 941 00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:05.159 had like a theme and cool colors and just it was. 942 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.079 It was awesome in that room. And I think Brian 943 00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:11.079 asked someone if they actually shower in there? Did you? 944 00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:11.400 Yeah? 945 00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:15.119 He did, Of course I did. Yeah, of course I did. 946 00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:18.199 He's like, I've never showered in here, but people have, 947 00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.400 And I was like, I really would love to shower 948 00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:21.960 in this shower, dude. 949 00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:25.880 It was one of those like old claw foot tubs. Oh, 950 00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:29.760 like beautiful, just going right after we look around the 951 00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:33.599 bedroom and we see the bathroom. He didn't risks all 952 00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:38.280 of our lives by showing us a hidden passageway that's 953 00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.239 really just us scaling the side of the house. 954 00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:44.119 Yeah, you had to crawl out a window and onto 955 00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.880 this little trellis I guess you'd call it. That's just 956 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:49.599 real tiny, and you had to super. 957 00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.880 Tiny and no railing on the side. 958 00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:55.199 Of the house, shimmy into the shimmy into the other window, 959 00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:57.119 where he kept on making the joke that if you 960 00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:57.719 wanted to. 961 00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:04.880 You know, read the book, you wanted to take off 962 00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:07.480 all your clothes and oil up your body and read 963 00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:08.320 on frying. 964 00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:12.440 What was so strange about this to me, though, is 965 00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:16.840 if you are a human being, he doesn't really want 966 00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:20.440 you to be on the tour because if you get hungry, 967 00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:22.400 he doesn't like it. If you have to go to 968 00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:25.480 the bathroom, he doesn't angry. And if you have to 969 00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:30.079 leave after three hours of a one hour tour, he 970 00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:34.000 doesn't like it. It's just like you exist for him 971 00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:42.800 to do his fucking bulls. If you're not willing to 972 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:47.639 do that, if you're not willing to submit to his 973 00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:54.480 complete dominance of time and space, then you don't belong 974 00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:59.639 on that tour. So for that, I I was picking 975 00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:06.920 up that very very early on. And I'm not gonna 976 00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:10.360 say I'm a passive, aggressive dick. I can just kind 977 00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:15.760 of start to become a dick. And he started trying 978 00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:19.400 to talk about this picture he got of a grandmother 979 00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:23.880 or a caretaker that had been on the property. Now, guys, 980 00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:28.280 twenty minutes before this, he's telling everybody how that place 981 00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:34.719 was just under flame for two hours straight. We had 982 00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:39.239 just and right outside that door, there's a charred doorway. 983 00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:43.280 And he goes, and I have this portrait of so 984 00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:46.519 and so and this is her and she lived in 985 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:48.559 the house from blah blah blah blah blah, and she 986 00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:51.599 was took care of the kids. And here's a painting 987 00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:54.840 from it. And I'm like, where did you get them? 988 00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:58.599 Where'd you get this photo? Where'd you get this painting? 989 00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:02.000 Where did that? Well, it came with the house. I'm 990 00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:04.639 sitting there thinking where where was it? 991 00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:08.039 He became with the name. 992 00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:13.800 It came with the house. And you're like, what you 993 00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:18.199 just got done talking about how there's been seventeen different owners. 994 00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:20.679 If the house doesn't like the owner, they're kicked out 995 00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:26.679 after two years, several renovations and a two hour fire. Yeah, 996 00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:32.920 but you pulled this picture out of Grandma Betty out 997 00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:37.239 of some closet somewhere where it was protected, and. 998 00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:40.280 This it was Grandma Tetaman. 999 00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:50.159 Yeah, come on, But I asked where he got it from. 1000 00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:53.719 His eyes got so big. I don't know if he'll 1001 00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:56.440 ever tell people he got those that those are real 1002 00:59:56.480 --> 01:00:01.800 people again, Because you got that stuff in the flame market. 1003 01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.480 That's an old photograph. Put it up. I'll tell them 1004 01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:08.480 that somebody for the cosmic Peach. 1005 01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:12.280 Fans, for the cosmic Peach fans out there, it's kind 1006 01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:16.239 of like them finding the terrorists passports and pristine condition 1007 01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:17.760 laying on the road after not. 1008 01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:28.800 To post. When they have these paintings, I have to 1009 01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:31.480 on them. 1010 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:35.079 Everybody that has listened to my past episodes on your 1011 01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:39.639 on your podcast, they're gonna know I'm skeptical, Brian. Right, 1012 01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:44.039 I'm going to ask all the questions. Oh, you got 1013 01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:47.280 so quiet out and he got so quiet, looks like 1014 01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:50.320 you just got it was how quiet he got. 1015 01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:52.360 That was the only answer you needed when he was 1016 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:56.000 just like, it came came with the house. 1017 01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:01.079 And fat dude, I'm gonna tell you guys something. This 1018 01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:04.599 dude could tell you where every spec of paint came 1019 01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:08.320 from in that house, but he couldn't tell me where 1020 01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:13.199 they found those pictures and paintings. That there was no 1021 01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:16.840 story behind it. Whatso I was waiting for him to 1022 01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:20.559 be like, we knocked down the wall and behind the 1023 01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:25.599 wall was the treasures of you know, But no, there 1024 01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:28.039 was no treasure story. There was no knockdown. No, it 1025 01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:29.039 just came with the house. 1026 01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:33.000 Yes, you're like where He's like, don't listen to the 1027 01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:38.079 angry white guy anyway. It's a two degree temperature. Oh 1028 01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:39.639 my god, I'll. 1029 01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:47.119 Tell you why you're wrong. One American, two white, three privileged, 1030 01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:50.920 fall you're ugly, five. 1031 01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:57.480 Privileged again white American. 1032 01:01:57.360 --> 01:01:58.239 Now shut up? 1033 01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:01.000 Two degree temperature dropping this right. 1034 01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:13.079 Right after you called him out on that, and like 1035 01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.199 it got really silent, and he was like it just 1036 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:18.000 came with the house. And then he moved us into 1037 01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:21.400 this tiny closet, like all twelve of us, and then 1038 01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:24.760 it smelled like fucking parts in there. He was going 1039 01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:28.440 on and on, and my brother tells it the best. 1040 01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.079 He got stuck on a word and he was like, 1041 01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:35.960 I translate everything in my mind from Jeb into English, 1042 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:39.920 so sometimes I get I get caught up. Oh yeah, 1043 01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:42.960 he got got he got caught on this word. And 1044 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:47.280 the way you tell this is perfect. Just take it. 1045 01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:52.079 He would just stop for so long and then like 1046 01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.199 where most people would just give up and pick a 1047 01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:57.840 different word, he just wouldn't. And he'd just be like, you. 1048 01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.440 Know, and I took one of these things that that 1049 01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:03.079 you pull, you know, with the with the tongs, and 1050 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:05.360 it has like you. 1051 01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:17.400 Know what those you know, the fuck a fuck Like 1052 01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:22.519 again again, we're all in a giant hurry right at 1053 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.599 this point, like parts in there, It sounds like parts 1054 01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:29.400 in here, again, he's taking all that time to explain 1055 01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:33.920 wallpaper that has nothing to do with the house, nothing, nothing. 1056 01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:36.800 You put it up at McDonald's and it would be 1057 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.480 exactly the same effect. There was nothing to do, and 1058 01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:47.880 he's just just stretching it out, stretching it out, and I. 1059 01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:50.119 Mean, well, the one when he stretched one of the 1060 01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:53.159 things out, I knew. I'm like, is this just an act? 1061 01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:57.199 At this point, because he was like, what is the world? 1062 01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:06.119 I need someone, but I cannot think of these American 1063 01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:13.280 words for this what it is? Oh, volunteer. I'm like, 1064 01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:20.320 you have been freaking tours a day and you can't 1065 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:24.719 remember the word volunteer. You ask for two volunteers through 1066 01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:25.719 the whole dour. 1067 01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:34.159 Words like volunteer. But he's just like cruising through words 1068 01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:42.599 like dark matter, yeah, fer dropages and all of fluctuations 1069 01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:46.920 in spiritual gratitudes. And he's like, and then. 1070 01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:50.199 What's the American words for I don't know? 1071 01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:51.920 Hot dog? 1072 01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:58.280 It's like, dude, that's the word you're got up. 1073 01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:03.360 Oh my god. So we move out of that room, 1074 01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:07.519 we go into this I don't know, it's like a 1075 01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:13.159 study or something, and he's going on another tirade, and 1076 01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:16.199 your phone goes off and it's like. 1077 01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:25.599 Good, good, well, mind you. I was already so angry, 1078 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:28.320 and for reasons I'm not even going to get into. 1079 01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:34.039 I had a phone that wasn't even my normal phone, 1080 01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:37.719 and I had no idea how to turn ringers off, 1081 01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:42.760 turn it down, turn nothing, okay, And in fairness, my 1082 01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:46.320 phone had leaped the entire time. And you guys know 1083 01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:49.400 what you know about me in my life. Think about 1084 01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:53.360 my phone not beeping for a full two hours. Just think, 1085 01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:56.039 I mean, think about, like, that's so ran, I can't 1086 01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:59.000 believe it even happened. And then we're up there, we've 1087 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.000 been up there for that long. My phone beeps one 1088 01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:03.400 time and he stops the whole tour. 1089 01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:04.400 It was like a movie. 1090 01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.239 When I looked from my phone, every it was like 1091 01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:09.440 a wall of people were just standing there staring at 1092 01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:13.280 me like this, including him, and he's just got this 1093 01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:15.480 look on his face, like how dare you look at 1094 01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.679 your phone during this tour? And all I could think 1095 01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:21.239 of to say in the moment was I've been here 1096 01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:27.239 three hours. I have a life, keep going. And that's 1097 01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:28.159 just all I said. 1098 01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.519 It just was right right after that happened, because I 1099 01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:36.920 had heard Jaden and Brittany talking and they're like, oh, 1100 01:06:36.920 --> 01:06:41.039 I'm so hungry. We didn't eat anything. You know, it's 1101 01:06:41.079 --> 01:06:42.880 like eight forty at this point. 1102 01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:47.639 It's after that, it's like after nine almost well. 1103 01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:51.920 It couldn't close the restaurant before they closed the kitchen 1104 01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:56.599 at nine. Okay, that's how that's how I'm figuring this out. 1105 01:06:56.599 --> 01:07:00.760 But I looked at Dave and everybody else. I said, 1106 01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:04.280 when we get back into where I know how to 1107 01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:07.159 get the hell out of here, because right now we 1108 01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:10.960 were in some kind of labyrinth. I was lost. I said, 1109 01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:14.559 I'm telling him I have to leave. I don't care, Yes, 1110 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.760 what he's going to try to talk about, I don't 1111 01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:20.840 care what he's going to try to show me. I 1112 01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:23.880 don't care. I seriously did not care. He could have 1113 01:07:23.960 --> 01:07:28.199 showed me the roswell fucking aliens. I would have been 1114 01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:31.440 out of there. I would not have given him five 1115 01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:35.800 minutes of my time. I was so hungry. So we 1116 01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:39.360 find we go, but we go to one more room 1117 01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.880 after this because this that he called you out in 1118 01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:45.039 the kids reading room, which, by the way, by the 1119 01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:47.639 time I was there, I was like, I don't care 1120 01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:50.920 about any of this. I don't care about this reading room. 1121 01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:53.920 I don't care anything about in my mind, anything he 1122 01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:55.880 would have said about that reading room. I just did 1123 01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:56.280 not care. 1124 01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:00.119 He was like a child guied in this room. I 1125 01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:01.360 was like, what boredom? 1126 01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:09.360 Well he's talking to somebody was like, there's no electricity 1127 01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:12.679 in here. I'm like, there's lamps plugged in everywhere. There's 1128 01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:15.599 a light above my head. I'm ready to go. 1129 01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:20.399 So there's air purifier right behind you, dude, right now. 1130 01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:28.239 So he's like, okay, we're walking. We're gonna go upstairs. 1131 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:29.479 So we go upstairs. 1132 01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:33.800 Wait, wait, well, Brian slay your role. We stopped by 1133 01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:37.039 a doorway before we went up stairs. 1134 01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:40.600 Oh my god, who. 1135 01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:42.800 Wants to tell it? 1136 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:46.479 Oh my god, you get Julie. You tell the doorway story. 1137 01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:51.239 You asked, I'll tell the doorway story. He goes, we 1138 01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:55.720 left this doorway intact from the fire, and it's this 1139 01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:03.079 charcoal looking doorway, and he goes, I need a volunteer. 1140 01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:04.800 He remembered it that time. 1141 01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:06.279 Yeah, And then. 1142 01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:13.680 He pulls my thirteen year old cousin and he goes, okay, 1143 01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:17.039 I'm gonna take your hand, and he runs her hand 1144 01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:21.920 down this charcoal doorway and he pulls out his stupid 1145 01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:25.000 fucking flimsy ass flashlight and he's like trying to click 1146 01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:28.880 it on to show everybody the soot on her hand. 1147 01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:32.319 And he shows everybody and they're like, oh, yeah, we 1148 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:36.359 kind of figured. And he does it again. He pulls 1149 01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:40.640 her sleeve up over her hand and runs it across 1150 01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:47.000 the doorway again. It's black and just little bits and 1151 01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:49.720 pieces are falling off of her sleeve. And then he 1152 01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:53.479 clicks his flashlight on again. He goes, looka and then 1153 01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:56.640 he looks at Brittany and he goes, you'll have a washut, 1154 01:09:56.760 --> 01:10:02.520 right mom, And it's like, you're just destroyed her sweater. 1155 01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:07.319 Dude, like, look at the magic. This is the magic 1156 01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:08.319 of the house. 1157 01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:12.600 His own hand, his hand. 1158 01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:17.319 Over it, starts digging with his flashlight again, clicking it, 1159 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:20.199 clicking it, clicking it. He's like, look at all these 1160 01:10:20.399 --> 01:10:23.560 posticles in the air. And I'm like that I'm breathing. 1161 01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:30.760 It's graph fight dust. It's burnt, charred. I work in construction. 1162 01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:32.600 I'd be wearing a mask right now. 1163 01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:37.159 He's almost like flicking it up into the air, and 1164 01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:38.159 he's flicking it up. 1165 01:10:39.680 --> 01:10:42.800 Graph fight particle dust. He's flinging all in the end. 1166 01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:46.039 He's that's the magic of the house. I'm like, there's 1167 01:10:46.039 --> 01:10:47.800 there's nothing magical about that. 1168 01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:49.199 Oh my god, there's. 1169 01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:51.279 Absolutely zero magic in that. 1170 01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:56.399 You have now, brother, they're literally more asbestos than magic 1171 01:10:56.479 --> 01:11:00.359 in that. In what uh. 1172 01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.199 As you literally said, you were like, I was just 1173 01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:06.239 waiting for him next ago, like and blow something in 1174 01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:07.520 somebody's face and go. 1175 01:11:07.960 --> 01:11:14.520 That's Espestos the hundred years old and haunted. 1176 01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:22.359 The woman in a black dress now lives inside you. 1177 01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:26.920 She now lives inside all of you. You're all haunted. 1178 01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:31.279 Now you'll be dead within seventeen years, probably of a 1179 01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:32.600 rare form of cancer. 1180 01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:34.159 But it's also haunted. 1181 01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:42.720 What's that word again, that American word, missor diliomain. 1182 01:11:49.239 --> 01:11:53.920 It was well, listen, poor JJ. Just just to say this. 1183 01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:56.720 JJ's the one who had her hand pulled all over 1184 01:11:57.079 --> 01:12:01.199 the sooty door. She had already used the word angry 1185 01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:06.680 one time while we were in the steam room, so 1186 01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:09.359 imagine how she was feeling by the time we were 1187 01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:11.239 rubbing her hand through the soood on the door. 1188 01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:14.199 Oh my god, she was so over it. Bless her heart. 1189 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:17.840 But that's Brian. When we went up that last flight 1190 01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:19.760 of stairs and you had a meltdown. 1191 01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:24.520 Yeah, I had a meltdown internally before we got up. 1192 01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:28.199 There, but I was like. 1193 01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:33.000 After we got up trying to do this. But once 1194 01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.000 I you know, I'm the kind of person it's like, 1195 01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:39.600 once I realized that this guy had zero respect for 1196 01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:43.359 my time, I now had zero's respect for his time, 1197 01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:48.359 zero respect for his tour, zero respect for anything. And 1198 01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:50.760 that's not a knock on him as a human being. 1199 01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:57.239 It's just an observation of truth. So I we get 1200 01:12:57.319 --> 01:12:59.960 up to this top floor. Now, guys, this top floor 1201 01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:05.199 was different than the entire rest of the house. It 1202 01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:08.039 looked like something that like somebody had been up there 1203 01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:14.720 collecting I don't know, antiques, but specific antiques. And what 1204 01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:18.319 I did notice that was interesting to me. And this 1205 01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:22.359 is again speculation, but there was a lot of occult 1206 01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:29.560 artifacts something, Yes, things like the Illuminati eye three eyes 1207 01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:34.039 and I don't know if that's Pagan. I'm not into symbology, 1208 01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:36.199 so I don't know if that's even a thing. 1209 01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:39.640 Not of like Tryang with the one eye in the middle, 1210 01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:44.640 and like weird Persian and Moroccan type of artifacts. It 1211 01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:47.960 was fucking weird. And this is what he called was 1212 01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:48.800 the ballroom. 1213 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:54.600 Yeah, there was a camera up there there was extremely 1214 01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:58.600 thick walls, and the windows had to be put deep 1215 01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:03.520 inside because the walls were so thick. It was just 1216 01:14:03.640 --> 01:14:08.079 so weird. And they were doing some sort of filming 1217 01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:08.920 up there. 1218 01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:13.000 And uh, there was a huge bathtub in the window. 1219 01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:15.920 Yeah, it was just all things. 1220 01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:18.039 There was a bathroom up there. There was a really 1221 01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:20.760 great view of the lake though, of all things, you 1222 01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:23.159 could see the lake from the top of the Franklin Castle, 1223 01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:24.439 which I thought was kind of cool. 1224 01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:25.760 Oh I didn't notice that. 1225 01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:27.079 Yeah, there was. 1226 01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:29.239 You were too busy having a meltdown. 1227 01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:31.479 Yeah. You by that point you were just ready to 1228 01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:33.600 get out of there. And I have I have to 1229 01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:38.439 say we all were, definitely. But here's here's what's funny. Man. 1230 01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:44.239 Think about this guy's loose friendship with Tom Okay and 1231 01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:47.920 what time means to him. So an hour tour, right, 1232 01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:51.479 that's what we were supposed to take. When we got 1233 01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:54.119 there and we started realizing, he goes, now, listen, this 1234 01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:56.560 is not going to be probably an hour tour. It 1235 01:14:56.680 --> 01:15:01.640 usually goes too okay. So now thinking, all right, fair enough, 1236 01:15:01.680 --> 01:15:03.720 it's gonna be two. But when you get to the 1237 01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:06.039 two hour market, you realize it's not over yet. That's 1238 01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.359 when you start getting angry. Right, So now the top 1239 01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:13.680 we're we're moving closer to three hours, okay, And and 1240 01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:17.000 Brian has he's the one that loses it first enough 1241 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:20.079 to where he can he's finally sensed I'm getting out 1242 01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:23.279 of here, because the guy says, now, let's go down 1243 01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:26.439 and we want to see the back of the castle. 1244 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:29.319 We're gonna go outside into the backyard and I'm gonna 1245 01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:31.760 show you some things about the back of the castle, 1246 01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:36.640 right and again and that cottage house. And I know 1247 01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:40.760 full well. Brian's like me, there's gonna be some interesting things. 1248 01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:43.279 And we really wanted to do this tour. We like 1249 01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:46.600 historical things, we like all that, so honestly everything in 1250 01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:49.119 us would love to see the back of this castle, right. 1251 01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:52.119 And Brian's just like, sorry. 1252 01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:54.920 I'm leaving. Uh. And when I'm getting down at. 1253 01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:57.039 The bottom, I get near that front door, I'm just 1254 01:15:57.079 --> 01:16:00.039 gonna be going. I hope that's okay, and like, and 1255 01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:02.760 so we start making our way down there, okay, down 1256 01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:05.279 towards the front door, and this guy gets desperate. This 1257 01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.720 tour guy gets desperate, and he starts talking to Brian. 1258 01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:09.960 He starts negotiating with him, trying to get him to 1259 01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:13.680 stay right, and he's like, but to back the castle 1260 01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:17.039 is really cool. You're going miss it, you know what 1261 01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:18.920 I mean? And Brian's like, I don't care, I'm leaving 1262 01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:23.119 and like and he goes. And then finally, Brian, trying 1263 01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:26.960 to be a super nice guy, turns around and says, okay, man, 1264 01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:29.840 how long how long to see the back of the castle. 1265 01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:34.960 And the guy's like five minutes, five minutes, And Brian's like, 1266 01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:38.239 all right, fine, if five minutes, is it gonna be 1267 01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:40.199 five minutes? And then and then you can tell Brian 1268 01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:42.880 even thought to himself, wait a minute, this guy has 1269 01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:45.760 a weird way with time. And he goes, is, dude, 1270 01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:48.439 is it really gonna be five minutes? And I am 1271 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:51.680 not kidding when I say this. The guy pauses and 1272 01:16:51.720 --> 01:17:00.720 he goes, maybe fifty minutes, and Brian just in face 1273 01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:06.119 ran out the front door as fast a crap about 1274 01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:07.359 the back of this castle. 1275 01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:17.319 He said, maybe fifty minutes, and we all started running. 1276 01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:20.560 You guys know what fifty minutes really meant? That meant 1277 01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:22.399 two more hours. 1278 01:17:22.039 --> 01:17:23.760 Yes, And dude, think about that. 1279 01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:27.319 He moved it up ten times, he said five minutes, 1280 01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:31.960 and then that quickie was like ten times that ten times, 1281 01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:35.520 like I mean just and maybe that was the wild 1282 01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:40.479 turkey talking. I don't know, but at that point we 1283 01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:43.479 knew whether this is a ghost or not, or if 1284 01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:46.199 Hans Stedeman's here or not, or the black woman in 1285 01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:47.159 black we're out of here. 1286 01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:51.159 We took the lead. We ran down the stairs first, 1287 01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.800 and we were trying to find our way back out, 1288 01:17:53.880 --> 01:17:56.560 and then we broke off into that first room where 1289 01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:58.600 we came in, and we were all looking around like 1290 01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:00.960 is it? What the fuck are we? And he was 1291 01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:04.000 like through that doll, through that doll, and then we 1292 01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:08.880 just like scrambled out you know what followed us. 1293 01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:13.720 It bothered me because I that that didn't just bother me. 1294 01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:16.920 It bothered me when I said goodbye, it was nice 1295 01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:19.720 meeting everybody, it was a great tour, and he didn't 1296 01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:24.720 say shit, mm hmmm back yeah. And I'm gonna say 1297 01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:30.479 the reason why that bothered me is because how are 1298 01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:34.880 you so ignorant to other people's time? How are you 1299 01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:39.319 so ignorant to that? How how can you not say 1300 01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:42.479 thank you for coming on this tour? You know, please 1301 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:45.079 come again another time and I'll be able to show 1302 01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:47.039 you the back of that something. 1303 01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:49.399 He didn't even try to sell us a T shirt. 1304 01:18:50.479 --> 01:18:52.520 Yeah, I would have bought one. 1305 01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:56.079 You don't know if they have merch. I don't think 1306 01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:57.079 he's thought of that. 1307 01:18:57.399 --> 01:19:01.760 No, because no, you know what the merch would be 1308 01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:05.439 his own personal artwork shirts made out of the wallpaper. 1309 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:09.840 I was just gonna say that, which he kept calling 1310 01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:14.039 oriental wallpaper, and I was gonna be like, that's what 1311 01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:15.880 his shirt would be. It would just be like a 1312 01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:20.439 beat shirt, you know, like a freaking Hawaiian shirt of 1313 01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:21.760 the wallpaper that he made. 1314 01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:25.319 Yeah, it would say Franklin Castle, Home the World's greatest 1315 01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:26.079 art collection. 1316 01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:32.119 Yeah, it would the T shirts, the T shirts he 1317 01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:35.520 would make or won, the sculpt the sculpture that has 1318 01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:38.359 light that goes through it from the one bathroom, the 1319 01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:43.520 oriental wallpaper quote from him, and probably a picture of 1320 01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:46.640 the steam in the basement. That would be the three 1321 01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:47.359 T shirts. 1322 01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:50.319 Or the creepy cherry won't tell anybody about. 1323 01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:54.039 Or a bumper sticker that says the Franklin Castle, It's 1324 01:19:54.079 --> 01:19:55.239 not haunted. 1325 01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:03.920 Frankly Castle, America's least on his house. 1326 01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:08.479 Oh my god. There were a few pictures I took 1327 01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:11.000 though that looked creepy U assholes. 1328 01:20:11.720 --> 01:20:15.720 Yes, but that's what he would say. He would say, 1329 01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:17.760 then he would tell you that he had that. He 1330 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:21.920 had a fifteen minute conversation with with the wallpaper, Yeah, 1331 01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:24.640 and then responded to him. 1332 01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:27.920 He said something about like he puts stuff places and 1333 01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:30.640 goes back and tries to find it and it's not 1334 01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:33.760 there anymore, which I mean that's like a haunting kind 1335 01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:36.520 of thing, but he didn't say it in a creepy way. 1336 01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:41.600 He was just like, maybe I misplaced it, and it's like, 1337 01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:43.920 that's that fucking just leave it out. 1338 01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:48.960 Then, Well, there's a fine line between the paranormal and alcoholism. Uh, 1339 01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:52.920 but I can that. Uh, He's he's dancing on that line. 1340 01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:57.800 He's he's found the door to the next dimension. 1341 01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:02.079 But no, for guys, there was parts of that house 1342 01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:04.279 that were creepy. And I have a picture where I'm 1343 01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:07.119 sitting in that little chair and it looks like there's 1344 01:21:07.199 --> 01:21:10.359 like some misty thing like behind the chair. Did you 1345 01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:10.720 see that? 1346 01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:14.399 Yes? I did, actually and thought that was kind of 1347 01:21:14.439 --> 01:21:15.640 interesting mm hm. 1348 01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:19.479 And then Kim has a weird picture where her phone 1349 01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:22.880 just went off randomly and it's like some kind of 1350 01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:27.199 a red swirl looking thing. Did you guys see that? One? 1351 01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:28.640 I didn't see that one. 1352 01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:30.039 Yeah it was weird. 1353 01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:36.520 Yeah, no, I listen. I think I think because remember 1354 01:21:36.560 --> 01:21:38.479 he asked a question at one point and he goes, 1355 01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:42.000 what do you guys think haunting is a haunted house is? 1356 01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:44.520 And I was the one that said, I think it's energy, 1357 01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:48.560 and then he went off on the energy yes, and 1358 01:21:48.600 --> 01:21:50.640 then he was on the energy tangent. So I guess 1359 01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:53.119 I said the right thing. But I do believe in that, 1360 01:21:53.439 --> 01:21:56.479 Like I don't think you need to believe in ghosts 1361 01:21:56.520 --> 01:21:59.319 in the sense of it's a Civil War soldier all 1362 01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:03.520 the time to believe that strange things happen because of 1363 01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:06.439 trapped energy, you know what I mean to some degree. 1364 01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:10.239 And I think like crazy things or weird events can 1365 01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:13.800 trap energy like that, and that's why you tend to 1366 01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:16.479 run into it. Although I will say I say this 1367 01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:19.079 all the time about hauntings, I never understand why I 1368 01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:22.920 why are all ghosts from the eighteen hundreds. 1369 01:22:22.720 --> 01:22:26.720 Because they were real fucking miserable in the eighteen hundreds. 1370 01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:30.159 I don't know. I know that they've come back to 1371 01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:40.199 experience air conditioning and star wars in HG. So you 1372 01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:42.039 could tell Youbachu's wearing a mask. 1373 01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:46.279 Oh my God, you guys. You know what's funny though, 1374 01:22:48.680 --> 01:22:52.319 when we went in that bedroom right before Brian got 1375 01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:54.399 yelled at for using his phone, he was like, no 1376 01:22:54.600 --> 01:22:58.439 photography in this bedroom. And this is where we found 1377 01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:03.439 the bones. We found bones, a small PILs. We think 1378 01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:06.960 it's a child pelvis. 1379 01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:07.720 And baby bones. 1380 01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:11.159 Yeah, he like just cut to the next topic. He 1381 01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:14.880 didn't really expand on that and say like what how 1382 01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.199 they got there or why they were there, or if 1383 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:19.640 they ever got like tested to see if it was 1384 01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:23.600 a real person, or like he just we found out. 1385 01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:26.520 He didn't say away, and he did say they were 1386 01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:28.840 sent away and there were children's. 1387 01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:32.319 Bones, children's bones, and then he like gets cut to 1388 01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:33.960 the next Yeah. 1389 01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:37.479 It's like and that's when the guy realized he couldn't 1390 01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:43.119 build a church there, Yeah, which is why and and 1391 01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:45.720 so like there were they were going to do so 1392 01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:49.840 many different things with that building. That I find so 1393 01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:54.720 interesting in that sense is that it was going to 1394 01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:56.760 be a nightclub, it was going to be a restaurant, 1395 01:23:56.840 --> 01:23:57.199 it was. 1396 01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:00.720 Going to be church. Imagine that being a nightclub. That 1397 01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:01.479 would have been sick. 1398 01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:09.159 Okay, but what what would you call it the Franklin 1399 01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:12.319 Castle nightclub or would you give it like a cool name. 1400 01:24:12.840 --> 01:24:15.119 I think you could just call it the Franklin Castle. 1401 01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:21.640 Mmm, Dungeon of Darkness, nightclub back, or just the Franklin. 1402 01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:22.920 You know those places just. 1403 01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:25.760 Have yeah the Franklin. 1404 01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:29.079 But they'll just be a cool party place. I would 1405 01:24:29.119 --> 01:24:31.399 love to I love I love partying in places that 1406 01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:32.960 have like a weird vibe like that. 1407 01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:41.520 Yeah, no, it it so for everybody. I have some 1408 01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:44.880 facts about the Franklin Castle, So you guys tell me 1409 01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:49.960 what you think after you've done the tour. Okay, So 1410 01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:53.600 it's it was done, and it's called a Victorian stone house. 1411 01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:57.439 It's also known as the Tiedaman House, which we we 1412 01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:01.920 did learn. It's located at four three eight Franklin Boulevard 1413 01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:06.439 in Ohio City, so people in Cleveland know Ohio City neighborhood. 1414 01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:13.520 They say that there's four stories there and more than 1415 01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:23.399 twenty rooms and more than eighty windows at the time, 1416 01:25:25.439 --> 01:25:30.359 so this place on Wikipedia, they are calling it the 1417 01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:34.800 most haunted house in Ohio. So, guys, with the exception 1418 01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:39.199 of that one room, I did not I could have 1419 01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:41.680 spent the night in that place, probably by myself and 1420 01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:45.119 been like, hey, but that's just. 1421 01:25:45.399 --> 01:25:49.640 Brian, go sleep in sleep in that one room you 1422 01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:54.159 got the creeps in all night by yourself. 1423 01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:57.920 I wouldn't do that. What I'll tell you why I 1424 01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:02.159 wouldn't do that. That picture Jesus freaks me out. Yes, 1425 01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:05.079 you could put that picture of Jesus in my house 1426 01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:07.039 and I would. I would be like, get that thing 1427 01:26:07.039 --> 01:26:07.479 out of here. 1428 01:26:08.079 --> 01:26:10.319 And you also have to spend the night in that 1429 01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:13.880 room listening to the Pagan Festival all night on repeat. 1430 01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:20.119 Yeah, and just you know sometimes though, and whether you know, 1431 01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:24.640 obviously my beliefs don't create reality, and I don't fully 1432 01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:27.399 believe in this stuff. But at the same time, I 1433 01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:30.399 do wonder, like I got the feeling that that guy 1434 01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:33.840 was trying to invite things into that house. He was 1435 01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:38.119 trying to communicate with things in that house. And Dave, 1436 01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:40.640 I know you're a rational person too. I don't know 1437 01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:43.600 if you got that feeling, but it wouldn't have surprised me. 1438 01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:47.600 And obviously this is a pure speculation, but during those 1439 01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:52.560 fifteen twenty minute times where he was gone, probably sipping 1440 01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:56.079 on something, he was also trying to conjure something up, 1441 01:26:56.720 --> 01:27:00.600 like hey, I've got people here. Yeah, it's like you've 1442 01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:04.039 wanted just like you want house I've got the people 1443 01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:04.880 here for you. 1444 01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:10.640 It's really sort of a it's really sort of a 1445 01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:15.760 haunted meets eyes wide shut type vibe. 1446 01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:21.039 Yeah, I don't know what the hell that dude's doing 1447 01:27:21.079 --> 01:27:22.640 behind closed doors? 1448 01:27:23.119 --> 01:27:26.439 Was he Was he disappearing just to drink or was 1449 01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:30.840 he disappearing into a passageway to drink and torture somebody 1450 01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:31.800 that he's got in there? 1451 01:27:32.479 --> 01:27:33.159 You know what I mean? 1452 01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:36.439 You hear like somebody said, you talk so much about 1453 01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:39.119 the house and like if the house doesn't like you, you're 1454 01:27:39.039 --> 01:27:41.960 kicked out in two years, YadA YadA. And they said, well, 1455 01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:44.640 don't you think it's disrespectful to the house to have 1456 01:27:44.920 --> 01:27:47.880 these tours and like have all these strangers coming into 1457 01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:52.000 the house. And he was like, if you help the house, 1458 01:27:52.239 --> 01:27:57.199 the house helps you. And I was like, what the 1459 01:27:57.319 --> 01:28:01.359 fuck does that mean? If you help the house, the 1460 01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:03.960 house helps you, How are you helping the house? 1461 01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:07.399 The ambiguity? And I think that's just it, man. It's 1462 01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:09.600 like he I think you're right. He would love to 1463 01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:11.960 invite that kind of stuff in there. He wants you 1464 01:28:12.279 --> 01:28:15.920 to be supplying the scariness. He I think he's got 1465 01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:17.720 it on his mind. I'm not going to sell this 1466 01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:20.479 place as a scary house. But everybody's gonna say it's 1467 01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:24.159 scary anyway, so I don't have to. But he still 1468 01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:27.800 pushes it, you know what I mean. And so that's 1469 01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:30.840 what it is to me. And it's like, again, I 1470 01:28:31.239 --> 01:28:33.920 wouldn't doubt that if you stayed in that place overnight 1471 01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:38.479 you might see something weird again, because it doesn't have 1472 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:42.439 to be necessarily a ghost in the sense that everyone's 1473 01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:45.840 talking about. This could just be weird trapped energies from 1474 01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:50.239 weird lifestyles in that house and weird murder there. 1475 01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:53.560 Well, listen, listen to some of this stuff that comes 1476 01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:56.960 up here, guys, and then this actually puts. When you 1477 01:28:57.039 --> 01:28:59.840 listen to the Wikipedia, you learn more than when he 1478 01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:04.680 was talking about it, which is this is how quickly 1479 01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:09.159 you can learn interesting facts about this place. So obviously 1480 01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:14.159 this is according to Wikipedia. But on January fifteenth, eighteen 1481 01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:18.039 eighty one, so nineteen eighty one, you know the whole 1482 01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:22.520 story I had already told about the daughter, but Tinaman's 1483 01:29:22.520 --> 01:29:26.079 fifteen year old daughter, Emma, succumb to diabetes, which he 1484 01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:30.399 did bring up the diabetes thing, and then the property 1485 01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:35.199 saw second death with the elderly mother who died then 1486 01:29:35.319 --> 01:29:40.439 three years later they bury three more children, giving rise 1487 01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:43.600 to speculation that there was more deaths than met the eye. 1488 01:29:44.119 --> 01:29:47.640 Could that have been the bones, the old bones that 1489 01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:50.119 were found in the house when they were trying to 1490 01:29:50.159 --> 01:29:57.319 build the church. Three more kids died, that's a lot. 1491 01:29:59.359 --> 01:30:04.880 So during that time, to distract Louise, who was Tiedeman's wife, 1492 01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:07.920 from all the deaths in the home, they began more 1493 01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:12.000 construction on the home, adding a ballroom which runs the 1494 01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:15.960 entire fourth floor of the manor, which is where we 1495 01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:17.039 were at up top. 1496 01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:17.920 Yep. 1497 01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:23.760 They also added turrets and gargoyles to add to the 1498 01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:29.319 edifices facade, giving the more pronounced castle appearance at that time. 1499 01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:34.199 So there was rumors that there was hidden rooms and 1500 01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:39.760 passageways used for bootlegging during prohibition, but none of these 1501 01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:42.760 rooms have ever been found to exist, other than a 1502 01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:46.560 small stairway that was used by servants from the kitchen 1503 01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:49.079 which is in the basement. Guys, we were talking about 1504 01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:52.399 this to the front door, and those are the stairs 1505 01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:58.039 that are extremely narrow that I was talking about. Basically, 1506 01:30:58.119 --> 01:31:01.319 you're going to die if you on these things and 1507 01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:07.239 you have any sort of problem. Then Louise died of 1508 01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:10.520 liver disease in eighteen ninety five and she was only 1509 01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:15.520 fifty seven years old. Then Hans sold the house to 1510 01:31:15.680 --> 01:31:20.279 the Mallhall Halls her family in nineteen oh eight, and 1511 01:31:21.479 --> 01:31:25.039 the entire Tedament family was dead, leaving no one to 1512 01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:36.680 inherit his considerable personal wealth. Interesting, so there's rumors that 1513 01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:41.600 crimes were committed by Hans Tiedeman himself, and that contributes 1514 01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:46.199 to the Franklin Castle's reputation to this day. But none 1515 01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:48.960 of those were disclosed, none of those were talked about, 1516 01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:53.840 and they don't talk about any of them here. Then 1517 01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:57.039 in the middle years from nineteen twenty one to nineteen 1518 01:31:57.199 --> 01:32:00.880 sixty eight, which they considered the Middle Years, which is 1519 01:32:00.920 --> 01:32:05.840 a quite large chunk of time, it was the home 1520 01:32:05.880 --> 01:32:13.119 to various German cultural organizations. James Romano, who lived there 1521 01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:16.000 in nineteen sixty eight with his wife and six children, 1522 01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:22.479 reported several encounters with ghosts in their home and attempted exorcisms, 1523 01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:32.159 and even ghost hunting groups like the Northeast Ohio Northeast 1524 01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:40.039 Ohio psych Psyche Psychical Research Society investigate the castle. In 1525 01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:44.560 nineteen seventy four, the Romanos decided to leave the house 1526 01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:51.039 and sold to the Sam Musculato, and he planned to 1527 01:32:51.039 --> 01:32:53.439 turn it into a church, and that's when what we 1528 01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:59.119 found out about the bones. Right to raise money for 1529 01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:02.880 the church, though he did haunted house tours and overnight 1530 01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:08.000 stays in the castle. Human bones were found in a 1531 01:33:08.039 --> 01:33:14.279 closet in nineteen seventy five, but it is also believed 1532 01:33:14.399 --> 01:33:18.000 that they were planted by that owner looking to gain 1533 01:33:18.359 --> 01:33:23.359 publicity for the ghost tours on the property. Oh guys, 1534 01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:26.479 all that stuff was left out of our tour. He 1535 01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:30.119 didn't mention a single bit of that. He played into 1536 01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:32.840 those bones being found just as much as the guy 1537 01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:46.680 who probably planted him there. In eighty four, Michael Devinko, 1538 01:33:47.560 --> 01:33:52.279 Judy Garland's fifth and last husband, purchased the Franklin Castle, 1539 01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:57.319 immediately started making renovations to the house, and over the 1540 01:33:57.359 --> 01:34:00.920 next ten years he spent close to one million dollars 1541 01:34:00.960 --> 01:34:04.199 renovating the castle. He even went as far as to 1542 01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:07.239 track down some of the original furnacings for the castle. 1543 01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:11.439 But then he decided to put the house up for 1544 01:34:11.479 --> 01:34:16.960 sale in nineteen ninety four. So what happened with this guy, 1545 01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:19.960 There's no two years there. That was a ten year 1546 01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:22.319 span eighty four to ninety four. 1547 01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:25.680 Yeah, he was probably into some dark shit brought the 1548 01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:26.600 house life. 1549 01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:29.560 He did talk about That's what I said. The house 1550 01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:32.199 must have liked him because he was like, you know whatever. 1551 01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:38.119 There was a series of owners for the past thirty years. 1552 01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:43.239 The castle was empty from ninety four until ninety nine 1553 01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:50.520 until Michelle him Burger bought the castle and the carriage 1554 01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:53.760 house for three hundred and fifty thousand dollars using part 1555 01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:58.239 of her Yahoo stock. She was one of the company's 1556 01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:04.520 early employees. She's also a native Clevelander. She's fascinated with 1557 01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:07.880 the home and person purchased it with intentions of restoring 1558 01:35:07.920 --> 01:35:14.079 the building to its former glory. But unfortunately, that same 1559 01:35:14.159 --> 01:35:19.119 year fire badly damaged the castle. Even though extensive repairs 1560 01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:23.439 were done, the house restoration could not be completed. Now 1561 01:35:23.479 --> 01:35:26.000 what's interesting about that, guys, is they talk about nothing 1562 01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:30.600 about the fire being set by a human being who 1563 01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:33.479 said that this place is evil. But we picked that 1564 01:35:33.640 --> 01:35:39.560 up on the tour. Interesting in two thousand and four, Okay. 1565 01:35:39.439 --> 01:35:49.600 Same Hamburger, h ei mbu r Ger Hamburger. 1566 01:35:50.079 --> 01:35:52.199 So she's German too, Yeah. 1567 01:35:52.720 --> 01:35:57.000 Yeah. In two thousand and four, there were rumors that 1568 01:35:57.039 --> 01:36:00.159 the Franklin Castle was going to be completely renovated and 1569 01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:05.399 turned into the Franklin Castle Club, But in two thousand 1570 01:36:05.439 --> 01:36:08.560 and six the entire club was proven to be a 1571 01:36:08.600 --> 01:36:12.960 complete sham. They never did any repairs, they never did anything, 1572 01:36:13.279 --> 01:36:16.600 and pictures on the website were either close up shots 1573 01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:21.439 of architecture or stolen from other websites. So they never 1574 01:36:21.479 --> 01:36:27.000 did anything. And there was also no evidence that castle 1575 01:36:27.039 --> 01:36:30.840 had ever been used to shoot pornography. So that's a 1576 01:36:30.960 --> 01:36:35.399 rumor that a lot of people have heard, and I 1577 01:36:35.439 --> 01:36:36.520 have heard that it looks like. 1578 01:36:36.439 --> 01:36:40.279 They're shooting some now in that bunker up there. 1579 01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:44.079 Around this time, the huge sea up. 1580 01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:46.880 There, guys, it could be, it could be. 1581 01:36:49.319 --> 01:36:52.000 Around the building was cleaned and the pair pit the 1582 01:36:52.079 --> 01:36:54.720 left side of the side was rebuilt according to a 1583 01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:59.680 eighteenth century design. Now the property was damaged again in 1584 01:36:59.760 --> 01:37:02.560 mark of twenty eleven when the carriage house was damaged 1585 01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:05.359 in a fire, which maybe he brought that up when 1586 01:37:05.479 --> 01:37:07.439 he went out to the carriage house, but we never 1587 01:37:07.479 --> 01:37:14.800 made it that far. So now, in twenty eleven they 1588 01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:17.279 rezoned the Franklin Castle to allow it to be a 1589 01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:23.760 three family family dwelling, and that sale was pending. European 1590 01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:29.600 Tapestry artist Shiara Donna Dale purchased it for twenty eleven 1591 01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:33.199 for two hundred and sixty thousand dollars. The Cleveland Building 1592 01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:37.399 and Housing Department issued a permit for residential exterior alterations 1593 01:37:37.439 --> 01:37:42.199 in twenty twelve, and local news reported that the buyer 1594 01:37:42.319 --> 01:37:46.359 intends to convert the building into three family homes and 1595 01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:51.600 the dwelling into two of the spaces. Following several years 1596 01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:56.239 of historic renovations, the owners announced single night accommodations were 1597 01:37:56.279 --> 01:38:02.439 available for guests starting December twenty fourth, twenty twenty two. 1598 01:38:05.279 --> 01:38:11.119 For Everyone's information. March eighteenth, twenty sixteen, Paranormal Lockdown featured 1599 01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:15.640 the Franklin Castle on an episode of its first season. 1600 01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:19.319 On March fifth of twenty twenty, Franklin Castle was featured 1601 01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:22.680 on the fifth episode of season nineteen of Ghost Adventures, 1602 01:38:23.239 --> 01:38:27.439 which was on the Travel Channel, and on November nineteenth, 1603 01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:32.560 Franklin Castle was featured on episode for season two of 1604 01:38:32.920 --> 01:38:35.880 The Holtzer Files, which aired on the Travel Channel. 1605 01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:41.359 Interesting, so there you have it. 1606 01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:45.760 So what do you think, Brian, It's a bunch of maloney? 1607 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:50.279 Or you can no, I. 1608 01:38:50.199 --> 01:38:52.319 Mean granted one that would mean that I'd have to 1609 01:38:52.359 --> 01:38:56.119 take everything for face value on Wikipedia, which you really 1610 01:38:56.159 --> 01:38:59.720 can't do. But I also don't think that they are 1611 01:39:00.079 --> 01:39:02.840 full of crap here. A lot of this stuff matches 1612 01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:11.479 up with what we've heard. Anything about why you never 1613 01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:14.920 heard the ending of the bones from the closet that 1614 01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:18.760 really he didn't mention. You know. Sometimes there's a thing 1615 01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:23.600 called lying through omission. Oh yeah, and we all know 1616 01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:26.720 what that means. We all know what lying through omission needs. 1617 01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:30.000 Lying through a mission is you know something you're purposely 1618 01:39:30.039 --> 01:39:34.199 not telling it because you know the consequences of what 1619 01:39:34.239 --> 01:39:35.680 it is that you're about to say. 1620 01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:36.199 Okay, but. 1621 01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:41.600 The person's eyes the second you tear me. 1622 01:39:41.560 --> 01:39:46.079 Out, Brian. Let's just say that the Franklin Castle over 1623 01:39:46.199 --> 01:39:49.640 time has gained some attraction based on some ghost stories 1624 01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:52.920 and like the hitchhiker story you told, right, so they 1625 01:39:52.920 --> 01:39:56.039 want to run with that, but they're allowing people to 1626 01:39:56.119 --> 01:39:58.680 stay there overnight, so they want to up the ante 1627 01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:02.319 a little bit. Now Here comes the weird like artifacts 1628 01:40:02.319 --> 01:40:05.159 that we saw in the Sexy Jesus picture and the 1629 01:40:05.199 --> 01:40:09.680 Pagan Festival records and the weird little rock formations. And 1630 01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:11.960 then you get up and it's like my brother said, 1631 01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:15.199 to like this weird eyes wide shut scene in the 1632 01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:19.760 attic ballroom where they have a huge kingside bed right 1633 01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:22.119 in the middle of the ballroom for no fucking reason. 1634 01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:25.520 They got the triangle with the all sing eye all 1635 01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:29.319 over the attic, a big old bathtub up there, and 1636 01:40:29.359 --> 01:40:32.399 they have video cameras, So you tell me they're not 1637 01:40:32.439 --> 01:40:35.359 trying to channel some shit in there to like up 1638 01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:37.640 the ante a little bit for when people come over 1639 01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:40.520 to stay. It didn't even have to be a haunted house. 1640 01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:43.520 You could go to anybody's house and start doing weird 1641 01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:48.119 like rituals and shit and get some fucking dark entities 1642 01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:51.399 up in that motherfucker. That's all I'm trying to say. 1643 01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:58.800 You know, I don't know honestly how any of that works. 1644 01:40:59.239 --> 01:41:05.800 But something I do like to think about is, you know, 1645 01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:08.520 it's not just buildings that become haunted. Sometimes you hear 1646 01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:12.720 about people that become haunted no matter where they go. 1647 01:41:13.439 --> 01:41:16.079 They're seeing things. And we could say, hell, okay, it's 1648 01:41:16.079 --> 01:41:19.520 psychological or it is what it is. But what are 1649 01:41:19.560 --> 01:41:22.439 you playing with, what are you trying to bring around? 1650 01:41:22.479 --> 01:41:24.479 What are you trying to do? And if you do 1651 01:41:24.600 --> 01:41:28.439 do those things, are you convincing yourself to change as 1652 01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:32.000 a person, or are you really inviting things into yourself? 1653 01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:35.840 You know, I don't know one way or the other. 1654 01:41:36.239 --> 01:41:39.119 I really don't, But I do know that when you 1655 01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:42.000 dabble with certain things and you want certain things to 1656 01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:47.479 be true, and what's the difference, it starts to become reality. 1657 01:41:48.319 --> 01:41:48.479 You know. 1658 01:41:48.520 --> 01:41:51.119 I just read a story about two people in India 1659 01:41:51.159 --> 01:41:55.000 who convince themselves of some They were involved in some 1660 01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:57.800 kind of cult and they needed their heads to be 1661 01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:00.760 chopped off and put into fire. They set up some 1662 01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:05.119 sort of weird thing, some weird ritual where they created 1663 01:42:05.159 --> 01:42:08.119 a guillotine and had a hill that went down into 1664 01:42:08.199 --> 01:42:11.640 a fire, chopped their own heads off together and had 1665 01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:14.159 it roll into the fire in some sort of cult ritual. 1666 01:42:14.399 --> 01:42:16.920 What's the difference, what's the difference? 1667 01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:23.640 Maybe they needed what's it called? Brian a volunteer. 1668 01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:28.319 Yeah, well, I think to Brian's point, you think about 1669 01:42:28.319 --> 01:42:31.159 it when you know that you've heard the term perception 1670 01:42:31.319 --> 01:42:34.800 is reality, and when someone's got you tied up in 1671 01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:38.359 a basement, whether their perception is reality or not, I 1672 01:42:38.479 --> 01:42:43.079 promise you you're in reality and there's some crazy ass 1673 01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:45.920 fucking shit happened to you, whether it's based on anything 1674 01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:49.439 real or not they think it is, and some people 1675 01:42:49.479 --> 01:42:51.680 can be doing some crazy ass shit. And that's why 1676 01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:54.239 I said, the most fun I've been having out of 1677 01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:56.239 this whole thing is coming up with all of these 1678 01:42:56.359 --> 01:43:00.000 cool stories about what that guy is doing in that house. 1679 01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:03.760 Is he is the the the idea that he's a 1680 01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:06.800 ghost giving tours in that house, the idea that when 1681 01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:09.199 he goes, we're laughing and saying he's going to drink, 1682 01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:11.680 but really he's going to torture some dude he's got 1683 01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:13.199 tied up in the you know what I mean. 1684 01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:17.640 Yeah, but think about it like, this is the real verbs. 1685 01:43:18.279 --> 01:43:20.640 This is the real verbs. Like and they're like, oh, 1686 01:43:20.680 --> 01:43:22.840 they're Satan worshippers and da da da. And then they 1687 01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:24.279 go in the house and they're like, I don't know, 1688 01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:26.760 it seems kind of normal. And then they find all 1689 01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:30.239 those fucking bones in his trunk. This is the real verbs. 1690 01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:33.279 Fun to think about. The house doesn't necessarily need to 1691 01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:37.000 be haunted to be cool. Way it's awesome, but man, 1692 01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:38.840 it's creepy as hell. If you just want to go 1693 01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:42.520 experience something super creepy, go yeah. 1694 01:43:43.119 --> 01:43:48.119 Essentially, I think it's great. Okay, this is the advice 1695 01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:51.760 I'd give anybody before they go one eat before you leave. Two. 1696 01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:54.520 Understand that the tour is going to be way longer 1697 01:43:54.560 --> 01:43:58.439 than one our so be prepared for that. Bring a snack, 1698 01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:02.000 Bring a water. My god, he'll probably not let you 1699 01:44:02.039 --> 01:44:06.680 bring it in, but bring it anyway. Be prepared to 1700 01:44:06.760 --> 01:44:10.079 be there for a long time. Don't make plans afterwards. 1701 01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:11.840 Know that you're going to be there a long time. 1702 01:44:12.640 --> 01:44:16.439 Start looking at the things there, but learn the history 1703 01:44:16.479 --> 01:44:19.520 of the house before you get there, and then ask 1704 01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:25.720 educated questions and see how he answers them. Like listen, 1705 01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:30.760 like read the Wikipedia page, watch some documentaries, watch the shows, 1706 01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:35.520 and then when you're there, be like, where did this happen? 1707 01:44:35.720 --> 01:44:37.960 Oh wait a second, didn't they find out that that 1708 01:44:38.239 --> 01:44:42.399 owner was planting those bones in the closet? If he 1709 01:44:42.479 --> 01:44:49.960 starts going, hey, you know you got it, know you 1710 01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:51.359 got him exactly? 1711 01:44:54.239 --> 01:44:57.600 Yeah, sort of view the tour like this, The house 1712 01:44:57.760 --> 01:45:00.439 is the opening act, the guy give and the tour 1713 01:45:00.479 --> 01:45:03.960 as the headliner. He's who you're going to see. That's 1714 01:45:04.039 --> 01:45:07.000 the real show. The house is kind of this cool 1715 01:45:07.039 --> 01:45:13.319 thing that goes on around this freaking creep. Oh if 1716 01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:16.399 in the tour and like just go with an open 1717 01:45:16.439 --> 01:45:19.079 imagination for what that dude's up to, and you will 1718 01:45:19.079 --> 01:45:20.560 have a blast. 1719 01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:24.359 Even the way he said, like, my name is Yan's 1720 01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:29.520 it's jeans, but with an I and no A, And 1721 01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:32.079 I was like, so, it's not jeans at all. What 1722 01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:33.439 are you talking about. 1723 01:45:33.640 --> 01:45:35.920 He's like a character from Zoolander. 1724 01:45:40.960 --> 01:45:44.039 It really was. So if you're gonna right the tour 1725 01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:51.680 one out of ten skulls, I'm giving it five skulls. 1726 01:45:52.359 --> 01:45:55.760 Okay, that's interesting because I even thought about that before, 1727 01:45:56.079 --> 01:45:57.920 like where I'd rate it one to ten and I'd 1728 01:45:58.000 --> 01:45:58.840 say four. 1729 01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:01.159 Out of ten, four skulls. 1730 01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:06.079 But my that's because I went into it blind, and 1731 01:46:06.159 --> 01:46:08.279 I think I would have liked it more if I 1732 01:46:08.359 --> 01:46:12.039 knew what I was getting into, because I would have 1733 01:46:12.079 --> 01:46:15.039 been prepared for more of the history, and I wouldn't 1734 01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:17.600 have gotten angry, and I wouldn't have been like I 1735 01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:20.000 would have known. Okay, he's going off on his little 1736 01:46:20.039 --> 01:46:24.239 tie rates. Here he goes, I expected this, blah blah 1737 01:46:24.279 --> 01:46:26.720 blah blah blah. But the fact that I didn't expect 1738 01:46:26.720 --> 01:46:28.279 that and I thought it was going to be one 1739 01:46:28.319 --> 01:46:32.159 hour that really lit me up. And the fact that 1740 01:46:32.239 --> 01:46:35.640 he did not thank me for coming out and after 1741 01:46:35.680 --> 01:46:37.680 I was like, thank you for you know everything, blah 1742 01:46:37.680 --> 01:46:40.720 blah blah blah, and he didn't say anything back. I'm like, 1743 01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:45.960 that rubbed me the wrong way. For four skulls out of. 1744 01:46:45.920 --> 01:46:50.199 Ten brother ten skulls. 1745 01:46:50.119 --> 01:46:52.720 This was easy for me. Ten skulls. 1746 01:46:53.199 --> 01:46:54.840 You're giving it ten skulls. 1747 01:46:55.119 --> 01:46:57.279 Ten skulls. Want to know why I'm giving it ten 1748 01:46:57.319 --> 01:47:01.600 skulls because at this point, I am completely convinced that 1749 01:47:01.640 --> 01:47:04.439 at some point on that tour, I was within ten 1750 01:47:04.520 --> 01:47:10.560 feet of someone bound and gagged and tied up for reason, and. 1751 01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:17.000 Ten skulls you're giving its because you hit ten hits 1752 01:47:17.319 --> 01:47:24.640 human skulls somewhere and not somewhere, and they're going to 1753 01:47:24.680 --> 01:47:28.239 find out it was planned to get to get no, 1754 01:47:28.439 --> 01:47:32.479 because that's when Rom up some attention. He listened. 1755 01:47:32.920 --> 01:47:35.239 It has to be that, because it has to be 1756 01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:39.840 either he's really a ghost giving that tour, or there's 1757 01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:42.600 really people tied up in that house and he's torturing 1758 01:47:42.640 --> 01:47:45.119 them and giving the tour while he's doing it because 1759 01:47:45.119 --> 01:47:50.199 he's not afraid of the police. But I'm saying it's 1760 01:47:50.199 --> 01:47:52.239 his way of taunting the police that I get like, 1761 01:47:52.520 --> 01:47:55.840 I could picture him BTK style standing in a courtroom, 1762 01:47:55.880 --> 01:47:57.319 being like, yes, I gave. 1763 01:47:57.159 --> 01:48:00.319 One hundred and twenty seven tours while I had people 1764 01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:04.439 tied up in the closet. Nobody who they thought I 1765 01:48:04.560 --> 01:48:07.680 was going to drink because I kept on rubbing buben 1766 01:48:07.880 --> 01:48:13.359 under my neck right here to throw them. 1767 01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:16.640 And so therefore my answer stance ten skulls. 1768 01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:21.039 Ten skulls, Okay, I mean that that is a very 1769 01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:24.319 good rating, ten out of ten skulls. I give it 1770 01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:27.319 five skulls just because I would have liked to finish 1771 01:48:27.479 --> 01:48:29.439 the tour in a timely manner. 1772 01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:33.760 Yes, well that's true. That's true too. Yeah, I guess 1773 01:48:33.920 --> 01:48:38.680 I'll remove one skull for him. I'll give it nine skulls. 1774 01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:41.960 Removing one skull because he tried to tell us that 1775 01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:44.319 it was going to be five minutes behind the castle 1776 01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:47.079 and then immediately changed it to fifty minutes. 1777 01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:47.840 By the castle. 1778 01:48:47.920 --> 01:48:49.960 That's got a cost at least one. 1779 01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:54.439 Come on, when you do that, you lose a skull immediately, 1780 01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:57.319 you know what the older I get, guys, And I 1781 01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:01.359 don't know why this surprises me, because I've always said 1782 01:49:01.399 --> 01:49:05.800 attention is today's currency, But the reality is attention. 1783 01:49:05.520 --> 01:49:08.960 Has always been a currency. It's worth more than the 1784 01:49:09.039 --> 01:49:14.800 almighty dollar and everywhere you go. You know what, I'd 1785 01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:17.800 almost say they always say the answer to ninety nine 1786 01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:20.359 out of one hundred questions is money. I'd almost say 1787 01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:23.439 it the answer to ninety nine out of one hundred 1788 01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:27.760 questions is attention. I mean you go back like you 1789 01:49:27.880 --> 01:49:31.840 just every politician, everything they say is for attention, Everything 1790 01:49:31.880 --> 01:49:36.079 they do is for attention. Most people out here are 1791 01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:39.319 doing most of the things for attention. I mean say, 1792 01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:42.439 I'm ping this podcast for some sort of attention. But 1793 01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:45.960 think about it. Everything is worst kind of attention, right, yeah, 1794 01:49:45.960 --> 01:49:46.279 I mean. 1795 01:49:46.279 --> 01:49:48.479 That is greazy. Comes with attention. 1796 01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:54.000 What usually comes with attention money money, And that's what 1797 01:49:54.039 --> 01:49:56.479 it is. When you see people seeking something like that, 1798 01:49:56.680 --> 01:49:59.039 you can almost always trace it back to money to 1799 01:49:59.039 --> 01:50:03.279 some degree. And again you're like, not all attention comes 1800 01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:06.359 with money, but generally, when you get that attention, if 1801 01:50:06.399 --> 01:50:08.600 you can harness it, it comes with money. 1802 01:50:09.039 --> 01:50:11.840 Yeah, and it doesn't matter how you get it. So 1803 01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:15.279 many people get mad because there's like nefarious ways of 1804 01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:18.800 getting attention, like oh, this serial killer killed one hundred people. 1805 01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:21.760 Oh he's such a horrible person. I'll buy his book, 1806 01:50:22.439 --> 01:50:28.560 I'll watch The documentary was on don't worry about that. 1807 01:50:29.199 --> 01:50:32.239 Well, what what's old saying? What's the old saying? 1808 01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:36.560 No press is bad press, all press is good press, 1809 01:50:36.920 --> 01:50:39.239 All press is good press. There you go. So it's like, 1810 01:50:39.319 --> 01:50:43.199 that's that's exactly what that saying means as long as 1811 01:50:43.199 --> 01:50:45.319 they're talking about you. That's why I always used to 1812 01:50:45.319 --> 01:50:48.119 think it was funny with the paparazzi. People like Britney 1813 01:50:48.159 --> 01:50:50.640 Spears would be like, just leave me alone, and you're 1814 01:50:50.800 --> 01:50:52.960 sitting there thinking if they left you alone, you'd be 1815 01:50:53.159 --> 01:50:55.079 dying for them to be taking a picture of you 1816 01:50:55.199 --> 01:50:55.520 right now. 1817 01:50:56.119 --> 01:50:56.800 Shut up. 1818 01:50:57.560 --> 01:50:59.399 They're the whole reason you exist. 1819 01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:10.000 Yes, pop out? Oh oh it was horrible. What happened? 1820 01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:13.079 Did you get that on camera? Did you did you 1821 01:51:13.119 --> 01:51:15.720 get did you quote that? 1822 01:51:16.239 --> 01:51:21.119 I just thought of a of a screenplay too. What 1823 01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:26.880 if going on your idea, people go to let's say 1824 01:51:27.079 --> 01:51:30.600 the Franklin Castle in this movie for a one hour tour, 1825 01:51:32.079 --> 01:51:35.439 and the tour just keeps going on and on and on, 1826 01:51:35.560 --> 01:51:38.159 and they get to like four hours and five hours 1827 01:51:38.159 --> 01:51:40.560 in and then they all start breaking off and looking 1828 01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:43.279 for ways out, and they just find more rooms and 1829 01:51:43.319 --> 01:51:46.319 they find more hallways that lead to nowhere, and they 1830 01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:48.600 keep trying to get out, and they can't, and they 1831 01:51:48.640 --> 01:51:50.800 always find their way back to the tour guide and 1832 01:51:50.840 --> 01:51:54.720 he's like, let me tell you about this oriental paper 1833 01:51:56.199 --> 01:51:58.520 goes on and on and on and they just can't 1834 01:51:58.520 --> 01:52:01.159 get out, and the movie ends and it's just them 1835 01:52:01.239 --> 01:52:03.520 in the in the window and they're the woman in black. 1836 01:52:03.560 --> 01:52:11.399 Now not a I will say to all listeners, to 1837 01:52:11.479 --> 01:52:14.439 my listeners and to your listeners. I think your listeners 1838 01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:17.359 will like this a little bit more. But there was 1839 01:52:17.399 --> 01:52:19.960 a book written, and you have to read the book 1840 01:52:20.119 --> 01:52:22.840 because you can't make a movie out of it because 1841 01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:24.680 the way the book's written. And you'll know what I'm 1842 01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:27.560 talking about if you've ever head, but Michael, this guy 1843 01:52:27.640 --> 01:52:31.560 named Michael Daniel, Daniel Luski or Daniel something like that, 1844 01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:34.880 wrote a book called House of Leaves. And if you're 1845 01:52:34.920 --> 01:52:37.199 not going to get an audio book on this, guys, 1846 01:52:37.359 --> 01:52:40.199 it does not exist because it wouldn't do it justice. 1847 01:52:41.159 --> 01:52:44.159 But if you read House of Leaves, it is one 1848 01:52:44.199 --> 01:52:48.880 of the craziest books I've ever read in my entire life. 1849 01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:52.880 There's no other way to preface it, there's no other 1850 01:52:52.920 --> 01:52:56.960 way to talk about it. But it's about a house, 1851 01:52:57.119 --> 01:52:59.399 and there's it's about so much more than this house. 1852 01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:03.319 But it's about a house. And when you measure it 1853 01:53:03.359 --> 01:53:09.800 from the outside, it's certain dimensions, but when you measure 1854 01:53:09.800 --> 01:53:13.520 it from the inside, for some reason, the outside dimensions 1855 01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:17.560 are three quarters of an inch larger, no matter how 1856 01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:20.479 you account for what's inside the walls or how deep 1857 01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:23.880 the walls are, what's going on with the walls. Then 1858 01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:28.119 they get inside this door and there's this labyrinth in there. 1859 01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:32.880 It's an unending labyrinth of just levels that go down 1860 01:53:32.960 --> 01:53:36.079 and in and out, and it's pure pitch black and 1861 01:53:36.119 --> 01:53:39.319 it's nothing. You can just your voice echoes in it. 1862 01:53:39.680 --> 01:53:43.880 And it's just this expanding space within this three quarters 1863 01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:46.039 of an inch and you don't know how it got 1864 01:53:46.079 --> 01:53:49.319 there or why it's there. And they're trying to do 1865 01:53:49.359 --> 01:53:52.199 a documentary of like how deep is this going to go? 1866 01:53:52.359 --> 01:53:56.199 And what's gonna happen in it? And I'll just read 1867 01:53:56.199 --> 01:54:01.720 the book. It's just like that. It's freaking insane. House 1868 01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:03.600 of leaves. 1869 01:54:04.399 --> 01:54:07.079 Look look what this see and this is why I 1870 01:54:07.119 --> 01:54:09.399 give it ten skulls. Look at the creepiness that this 1871 01:54:09.439 --> 01:54:12.720 has brought us to, just telling these weird stories about 1872 01:54:12.760 --> 01:54:15.119 just from like what that guy could be in that 1873 01:54:15.279 --> 01:54:18.319 house or the possibilities of that. I'll even just say 1874 01:54:18.319 --> 01:54:21.039 one more quickly. Think about the last couple. 1875 01:54:22.039 --> 01:54:24.760 What if the guy's whole plan, What if the whole 1876 01:54:24.840 --> 01:54:27.600 plot of the whole thing is to make the tour 1877 01:54:27.720 --> 01:54:31.520 last so long that people just start going, I'm sorry, dude, 1878 01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:34.399 I can't I just can't go. Like we left, then 1879 01:54:34.439 --> 01:54:37.760 those people followed us. At the end of every tour, 1880 01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:40.640 there's always one person that loves the castle so much 1881 01:54:40.720 --> 01:54:43.239 that they stay for the whole tour, and they get 1882 01:54:43.279 --> 01:54:44.399 added to the castle. 1883 01:54:46.960 --> 01:54:50.439 All the ghosts are the ghosts, and the tour got. 1884 01:54:50.279 --> 01:54:54.640 The tour is the last the last person standing that's like, 1885 01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:56.960 I love this place. They kill them and make them 1886 01:54:56.960 --> 01:54:57.880 a permanent part. 1887 01:54:58.479 --> 01:55:02.920 Oh my god, house absorbs them. 1888 01:55:03.439 --> 01:55:03.920 Damn. 1889 01:55:04.439 --> 01:55:07.039 See, I'm glad we have all this documented. I'm gonna 1890 01:55:07.039 --> 01:55:09.119 write at least two of these screenplays. 1891 01:55:09.279 --> 01:55:12.920 Oh my gosh, that would be such a good movie. 1892 01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:16.600 No, that's what I'm saying. See, so that's cool. Tense golds. 1893 01:55:16.600 --> 01:55:19.079 It's tense goldworthy just because of the creepy vibes it 1894 01:55:19.119 --> 01:55:20.760 gives up to give you ideas. 1895 01:55:20.439 --> 01:55:24.920 Like true true. But you know, if you think about it, 1896 01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:31.840 like I wonder what he said after we left, Like, 1897 01:55:32.239 --> 01:55:36.520 how do you justify how long you've been going? 1898 01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:39.319 Yeah? Do you think he was like apologetic and being 1899 01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:41.039 like I'm so sorry, like you know? 1900 01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:43.319 Or was he like those jerks I can't believe. 1901 01:55:43.359 --> 01:55:44.319 I'm glad they're gone. 1902 01:55:44.920 --> 01:55:56.039 They must not appreciate architecture. Some people just don't understand, dude. 1903 01:55:55.800 --> 01:55:59.359 I'm telling you, man, you really can't describe what that 1904 01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:01.720 tour was unless you just take it. 1905 01:56:01.720 --> 01:56:06.279 It was a ghost tour, but like in more ways 1906 01:56:06.319 --> 01:56:06.840 than one. 1907 01:56:07.920 --> 01:56:10.920 It was a ghost tour if you like, remove ghosts. 1908 01:56:10.479 --> 01:56:13.239 And shut up Brian. 1909 01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:20.880 On an adventure. If you remove like fun and you 1910 01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:23.359 remove ghosts and you remove. 1911 01:56:24.199 --> 01:56:25.920 It's fun now that it's over. 1912 01:56:26.800 --> 01:56:29.119 No, it was. It was a great experience. 1913 01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:31.159 It'll be a forever memory. 1914 01:56:31.680 --> 01:56:35.640 I actually don't regret one bit of it. But yeah, 1915 01:56:36.640 --> 01:56:37.479 did you guys. 1916 01:56:37.279 --> 01:56:39.039 Have weird stuff in the photos you took? 1917 01:56:41.199 --> 01:56:43.640 No? Remember I wasn't allowed to take. 1918 01:56:43.439 --> 01:56:46.760 Photos your nose, did you, brother? 1919 01:56:47.760 --> 01:56:49.680 Yeah, I got a picture of two weirdos. I sent 1920 01:56:49.760 --> 01:56:50.439 it to you guys. 1921 01:56:50.439 --> 01:56:51.239 It was YouTube. 1922 01:56:51.600 --> 01:56:54.159 Oh my god, the. 1923 01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:57.960 Mirror decapitated body behind us or anything? 1924 01:56:58.640 --> 01:57:03.199 No, No, I honestly there was. But but to Brian's point, 1925 01:57:03.239 --> 01:57:05.039 there were a couple of places in the house where 1926 01:57:05.039 --> 01:57:07.079 I did feel creeped out. I will say that there 1927 01:57:07.119 --> 01:57:09.479 were some creepy places, and there were at least two. 1928 01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:12.000 There were those two rooms where there was a there 1929 01:57:12.119 --> 01:57:17.159 was an actual you could feel the different in temperature. Yeah, 1930 01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:19.319 just those two rooms. It was. 1931 01:57:19.359 --> 01:57:21.479 It was significantly colder in those. 1932 01:57:21.359 --> 01:57:22.720 Two rooms for no reason. 1933 01:57:23.239 --> 01:57:23.760 Mm hmmm. 1934 01:57:24.159 --> 01:57:26.079 So I'll give it. I'll give it that as well. 1935 01:57:26.319 --> 01:57:28.880 Did you get the creeps in the Pagan festival room? 1936 01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:30.359 I did. 1937 01:57:30.399 --> 01:57:33.239 I did. Yeah, I thought it was very creepy in. 1938 01:57:33.680 --> 01:57:35.600 The only other thing I'm going to add to this, 1939 01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:37.560 and I did this to my sister on the way 1940 01:57:37.600 --> 01:57:41.079 home because her little bitch ass never wants to She's 1941 01:57:41.119 --> 01:57:44.800 the type of person that's like, will you drive me? 1942 01:57:46.079 --> 01:57:48.520 You know, parking parking is probably gonna be a bit. 1943 01:57:48.640 --> 01:57:50.800 It's like, you just don't want to drive. Come on. 1944 01:57:52.439 --> 01:57:57.319 But I'm driving her home and I looked at her 1945 01:57:57.319 --> 01:58:01.520 and I go, don't look in your rear view mirror 1946 01:58:01.600 --> 01:58:06.520 because one of the ghosts and spirits probably followed you 1947 01:58:06.600 --> 01:58:08.279 back and it's going to be sitting in your back 1948 01:58:08.399 --> 01:58:15.199 seat while you're driving home. And she goes, shut your 1949 01:58:15.319 --> 01:58:20.680 fucking mouth right now, shut your mouth, Brian, I don't 1950 01:58:20.680 --> 01:58:22.960 want to hear about that. I said, Oh no, it's 1951 01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:26.039 definitely going to happen. I could tell that they were 1952 01:58:26.239 --> 01:58:29.760 definitely checking you out throughout the entire tour, and the 1953 01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:32.840 probably latched onto you like I've seen in so many 1954 01:58:33.479 --> 01:58:38.399 horror documentaries. And she goes, she goes, just shut up right, 1955 01:58:38.399 --> 01:58:41.840 it's so stupid, so stupid that you'd even say something 1956 01:58:41.960 --> 01:58:52.199 so stupid. God, that's stupid. I'd drop her off. And 1957 01:58:52.840 --> 01:58:55.199 I go and I start. 1958 01:58:55.079 --> 01:58:57.000 Looking in my rear view mirror and I go. 1959 01:58:57.199 --> 01:59:03.199 Fuck, I'm scared myself. I kept thinking there was gonna 1960 01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:07.000 be somebody in my rear view mirror sitting in my 1961 01:59:07.199 --> 01:59:10.319 bag seat, and I couldn't stop thinking about it. And 1962 01:59:10.359 --> 01:59:12.600 I'm like, God, damn it. And so I get back 1963 01:59:12.640 --> 01:59:14.600 to the house and I'm by myself, and I'm like, 1964 01:59:15.039 --> 01:59:18.680 all right, I'm closing my door. I'm closing my door. 1965 01:59:18.680 --> 01:59:21.239 I'm gonna be fine. I'll leave one light on. I'm good, 1966 01:59:21.479 --> 01:59:27.039 nobody's in. And the heat had kicked on or something, 1967 01:59:27.119 --> 01:59:29.520 and all of a sudden I hear boom because the 1968 01:59:29.560 --> 01:59:33.119 door had expected like because of the pressure difference in 1969 01:59:33.159 --> 01:59:37.800 the room boom. Dude. I jumped out of my sheets 1970 01:59:41.119 --> 01:59:45.000 all because of that stupid tour with the no ghosts, 1971 01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:48.119 and I scared myself. Then I got back into bed. 1972 01:59:48.239 --> 01:59:50.640 I was perfectly fine after that, but I had I 1973 01:59:50.680 --> 01:59:55.600 totally freaked myself out. Ladies and gentlemen, Julie. 1974 01:59:55.720 --> 01:59:58.399 That's why I say this is a heat. You gotta 1975 01:59:58.439 --> 02:00:01.520 go four stars to six stars now, or skulls. You 1976 02:00:01.520 --> 02:00:03.079 gotta take it to six skulls. 1977 02:00:03.560 --> 02:00:06.920 I will take it to eight. You go, I will 1978 02:00:06.960 --> 02:00:09.279 take it to eight skulls. And I'll tell you why, 1979 02:00:09.359 --> 02:00:11.720 because now that he said that, it adds a whole 1980 02:00:11.760 --> 02:00:15.000 nother dimension to what happened to Britney and I. When 1981 02:00:15.039 --> 02:00:20.920 we got home. What so, you know, she's upset, and 1982 02:00:20.960 --> 02:00:23.760 then she's like talking about how upset she is all 1983 02:00:23.800 --> 02:00:27.000 the way one hour drive from Cleveland back to her house. 1984 02:00:27.159 --> 02:00:31.720 And she lives in the middle of nowhere, literally no neighbors, 1985 02:00:32.039 --> 02:00:37.720 no street lights, nothing, so no not even yeah, she 1986 02:00:37.800 --> 02:00:41.760 has no Wi Fi. Nothing. So we pulled back up 1987 02:00:41.800 --> 02:00:44.600 to her house and we all got out of the 1988 02:00:44.640 --> 02:00:49.000 car and put our jammis on and she had made 1989 02:00:49.239 --> 02:00:52.800 a bedroom up for me to sleep in the extra bedroom. 1990 02:00:52.840 --> 02:00:55.479 But I'm I'm scared to death of doing anything like 1991 02:00:55.520 --> 02:00:58.159 that and sleeping by myself in a dark room. So 1992 02:00:58.199 --> 02:00:59.840 I was like, I'm going to sleep on the cow 1993 02:01:01.119 --> 02:01:04.520 and JJ was scared, so she went and slept in 1994 02:01:04.520 --> 02:01:07.840 the bed with Britney that night. And I'm by myself 1995 02:01:08.279 --> 02:01:12.600 in the pitch black living room, and every creek, every 1996 02:01:12.800 --> 02:01:16.520 whisper of the wind, everything, I was just like, oh, 1997 02:01:16.560 --> 02:01:20.079 like all night, like I couldn't sleep, but I finally 1998 02:01:20.119 --> 02:01:23.680 fell asleep and I was like, nothing followed us out 1999 02:01:23.680 --> 02:01:26.479 of there. We should be good. I think we're probably good. 2000 02:01:26.920 --> 02:01:28.920 And then the next morning, Brittany wakes up and she 2001 02:01:29.000 --> 02:01:32.600 was like, I had nightmares all night last night that 2002 02:01:32.720 --> 02:01:35.359 I was walking through the house and trying to get out, 2003 02:01:35.399 --> 02:01:38.119 and every door I opened led to another hallway to 2004 02:01:38.199 --> 02:01:41.680 another door, and I was And then we talked to 2005 02:01:41.760 --> 02:01:45.119 Kim and she was like, I had nightmares all night 2006 02:01:45.279 --> 02:01:47.319 last night that I couldn't get out of the house. 2007 02:01:47.359 --> 02:01:51.039 And I was like, oh my god, we're I'm gonna die. 2008 02:01:51.399 --> 02:01:54.600 So I mean it does like that's a forever memory 2009 02:01:54.640 --> 02:01:56.800 that you don't forget about. That's like having a haunted 2010 02:01:56.840 --> 02:01:58.680 house experience as a family. 2011 02:01:59.680 --> 02:02:03.880 Yeah, very very true. I didn't get a chance to 2012 02:02:03.920 --> 02:02:05.960 be scared like that. I came back to the city 2013 02:02:06.039 --> 02:02:08.359 downtown and was stepping over urine. 2014 02:02:08.880 --> 02:02:12.119 Oh my god, you didn't even have the little bit 2015 02:02:12.159 --> 02:02:12.880 of creeps. 2016 02:02:13.119 --> 02:02:14.800 I didn't have time to be creeped out. 2017 02:02:14.840 --> 02:02:15.199 I was. 2018 02:02:15.279 --> 02:02:18.359 I was busy trying to feed the meters on my void. 2019 02:02:18.399 --> 02:02:23.520 The parking bands downtown, oh my god, which is scarier 2020 02:02:23.520 --> 02:02:27.640 than any haunted house there is dealing with parking bands downtown. 2021 02:02:28.760 --> 02:02:31.279 But at least we know the tour guide is not 2022 02:02:31.359 --> 02:02:35.800 a ghost because the restaurant we went to afterwards said 2023 02:02:35.800 --> 02:02:37.840 that he's a frequent visitor of the bar. 2024 02:02:42.000 --> 02:02:42.800 Well we knew that. 2025 02:02:43.479 --> 02:02:44.039 Surprise. 2026 02:02:45.239 --> 02:02:47.720 Yeah, we were all sitting there talking about it, and 2027 02:02:47.800 --> 02:02:50.560 I said the joke about he said his name was Jeans, 2028 02:02:50.640 --> 02:02:53.039 but with no J and an I and no A, 2029 02:02:53.399 --> 02:02:56.880 and we all started laughing like that's not Jeans. And 2030 02:02:56.920 --> 02:02:59.439 then the waitress comes up and she goes, oh, you're 2031 02:02:59.479 --> 02:03:03.039 talking about out yawns. He comes to the bar all 2032 02:03:03.079 --> 02:03:06.520 the time, and we all were like, what, of course 2033 02:03:06.560 --> 02:03:08.920 he does. At least we know he's real. 2034 02:03:09.800 --> 02:03:11.600 Well, now we know. We were talking shit and that 2035 02:03:11.720 --> 02:03:13.600 was all his friends. We were talking shit in. 2036 02:03:13.560 --> 02:03:15.279 Front of dude. 2037 02:03:16.000 --> 02:03:18.560 The waitress. She was like, so you wouldn't do it again, 2038 02:03:18.760 --> 02:03:21.319 like even just for like the experience of it, And 2039 02:03:21.359 --> 02:03:24.640 we were all like, nah, but that was like the 2040 02:03:24.680 --> 02:03:25.560 heat of the moment. 2041 02:03:26.159 --> 02:03:28.039 Yeah, I would do it. If they would lock me 2042 02:03:28.079 --> 02:03:30.159 in for one hour, I would just do one hour 2043 02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:31.680 by myself walking around. 2044 02:03:31.800 --> 02:03:34.520 That's how I was a self guided tours. 2045 02:03:34.239 --> 02:03:35.640 Self guided one hour tour. 2046 02:03:36.319 --> 02:03:38.920 Hey, let's throw it all out there. Let's throw it 2047 02:03:38.960 --> 02:03:42.319 all out there. Let's see where you guys, really where 2048 02:03:42.319 --> 02:03:46.840 your allegiances really lie. If I came to you and said, 2049 02:03:47.960 --> 02:03:51.079 I'm going to spend the night in the Franklin Castle, 2050 02:03:51.920 --> 02:03:55.720 I have a room, we have up to four people 2051 02:03:58.279 --> 02:03:59.479 and a Ouiji board. 2052 02:04:01.079 --> 02:04:04.319 Oh damn are you or. 2053 02:04:04.399 --> 02:04:05.399 Are you out? 2054 02:04:06.119 --> 02:04:12.239 I'm in minus Theuigi board. You're in minus, I'm in 2055 02:04:12.399 --> 02:04:13.479 Minus Luigi. 2056 02:04:14.520 --> 02:04:16.199 Well, how are we gonna communicate? 2057 02:04:16.760 --> 02:04:23.479 We're just gonna We're gonna do like an EVP sash, like, 2058 02:04:24.039 --> 02:04:26.479 turn the recorder on our phone and go around and 2059 02:04:27.079 --> 02:04:30.079 ask questions and then listen to the audio back later. 2060 02:04:31.159 --> 02:04:32.199 Oh oh, well. 2061 02:04:32.039 --> 02:04:33.880 I bet you I know what one of the voices 2062 02:04:33.920 --> 02:04:39.239 are gonna say. You're a pussy, You're a pussy. Get 2063 02:04:39.319 --> 02:04:43.159 the Ouiji board out and we are gonna summon some demons, baby, 2064 02:04:43.199 --> 02:04:45.880 and we're gonna go right into the dense dark room 2065 02:04:46.039 --> 02:04:51.479 with the pagan They're gonna summon demons. 2066 02:04:51.880 --> 02:04:55.680 I'm in for the sleepover minus Luigi brothers. 2067 02:04:56.760 --> 02:05:03.960 All right, well fine, I'll bring rbs. Then instead, it's 2068 02:05:04.000 --> 02:05:06.800 either a Wiji board or some really good chicken tenders 2069 02:05:06.800 --> 02:05:08.560 for Marby's. Okay, that's it. That's all. 2070 02:05:08.640 --> 02:05:11.439 I'll take a beef and sheddar. But are you are 2071 02:05:11.479 --> 02:05:15.199 you in for the sleepover with or without Oigi board. 2072 02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:18.920 I'll show up either way. If for me, which pajamas 2073 02:05:18.920 --> 02:05:20.560 am I gonna bring? That's all I'm working. 2074 02:05:20.600 --> 02:05:23.600 Are you gonna Are you gonna partake in the investigation? 2075 02:05:23.680 --> 02:05:26.159 Are you gonna sit there the whole time and crack jokes? 2076 02:05:26.439 --> 02:05:26.600 No? 2077 02:05:26.680 --> 02:05:29.159 I will partake. I'll partake and crack jokes at the 2078 02:05:29.199 --> 02:05:32.920 same time. I can walk in cho gumps. There's no 2079 02:05:32.960 --> 02:05:33.640 problem at all. 2080 02:05:35.039 --> 02:05:37.760 I would I would, You know, I haven't done it. 2081 02:05:37.920 --> 02:05:40.439 I don't think I've done a Wigi board in twenty years, 2082 02:05:40.880 --> 02:05:44.560 but I would probably do it. Just put my hands 2083 02:05:44.840 --> 02:05:49.720 God Brian, yeah at her, and then I'd be like, 2084 02:05:49.920 --> 02:05:52.439 are you moving it? Or am I moving it? Are 2085 02:05:52.479 --> 02:05:55.520 you moving it? Or am I moving it? It's moving yet, 2086 02:05:55.600 --> 02:05:58.199 Oh my god, I'm not moving it. And then somebody 2087 02:05:58.239 --> 02:06:01.479 else I'm not moving meanwhile, spelling things and all our 2088 02:06:01.560 --> 02:06:05.920 ad ds like now win and pick up any of that. 2089 02:06:05.920 --> 02:06:09.079 That's all generish to me. What is that German? Are 2090 02:06:09.119 --> 02:06:09.640 you starting? 2091 02:06:10.760 --> 02:06:12.640 Is that German for fark? 2092 02:06:14.319 --> 02:06:16.920 Suddenly in the corner of the room, we summoned Yams 2093 02:06:16.960 --> 02:06:19.359 and he's like, did you call me? 2094 02:06:21.279 --> 02:06:24.159 I'd be like no, no, no, no, go back, come back. 2095 02:06:27.560 --> 02:06:29.239 You'd be like, no, yarns. 2096 02:06:29.399 --> 02:06:33.680 God, did I show you the toilet that was installed 2097 02:06:33.680 --> 02:06:36.039 in twenty fourteen and has nothing. 2098 02:06:35.760 --> 02:06:36.439 To do about that? 2099 02:06:42.479 --> 02:06:44.359 The toilet seat is heated. 2100 02:06:45.840 --> 02:06:48.399 I got it from all my tomsail and that's nothing. 2101 02:06:50.560 --> 02:06:53.800 Oh it's important from a place called what do you 2102 02:06:53.920 --> 02:07:01.680 call China? Oh my god, I got these. 2103 02:07:02.119 --> 02:07:05.399 Look at these hundred and fifty year old towels. They 2104 02:07:05.439 --> 02:07:08.079 came from a place called bed bath. 2105 02:07:08.239 --> 02:07:09.520 And beyond. 2106 02:07:11.119 --> 02:07:19.439 All, let's put some ribbon on ribbons on this though, 2107 02:07:21.159 --> 02:07:26.079 the Franklin Castle, I think it could potentially be haunted. 2108 02:07:27.960 --> 02:07:30.680 I think it's worth going on the tour. If you're 2109 02:07:31.279 --> 02:07:33.920 listening to this episode and you know what to expect, 2110 02:07:34.079 --> 02:07:37.600 and you clear out your afternoon and you eat like 2111 02:07:37.640 --> 02:07:44.399 you said Brian beforehand. And honest to God, the next 2112 02:07:44.439 --> 02:07:47.079 person who goes on the tour, they need to like 2113 02:07:48.359 --> 02:07:50.560 be the douchebag to say can we go onto the 2114 02:07:50.600 --> 02:07:54.119 next room, or like can you cut this like somebody 2115 02:07:54.159 --> 02:07:54.840 needs to edit. 2116 02:07:55.039 --> 02:07:57.319 Actually here here, you want to ribbon this thing up. 2117 02:07:57.399 --> 02:08:00.359 I will ribbon this thing up. Don't take tour. 2118 02:08:01.560 --> 02:08:02.279 Don't take the tour. 2119 02:08:03.000 --> 02:08:05.640 Don't even think about taking the tour. Stay in the 2120 02:08:05.680 --> 02:08:11.680 house overnight. Boom, wait, don't about taking the tour. You 2121 02:08:11.720 --> 02:08:14.399 will get a much better experience if you can get 2122 02:08:14.399 --> 02:08:16.680 sealed up in that house by yourself for any length 2123 02:08:16.720 --> 02:08:18.199 of time. I think that would be I. 2124 02:08:18.159 --> 02:08:22.159 Do wonder because they do ghost tours there. I wonder 2125 02:08:22.199 --> 02:08:26.319 if he avoids talking anything about ghosts until unless you 2126 02:08:26.439 --> 02:08:30.159 pay the one ghost tour fee. 2127 02:08:30.680 --> 02:08:33.159 Right, yeah, he doesn't want. 2128 02:08:32.600 --> 02:08:35.399 The thirty five dollars fee. Is just I'm gonna walk 2129 02:08:35.439 --> 02:08:40.119 you around and talk about renovations. But the one nine 2130 02:08:40.239 --> 02:08:44.600 pm to two am ghost tour, right, which, by the way, 2131 02:08:44.720 --> 02:08:48.119 I believe probably goes till ten o'clock in the morning. 2132 02:08:48.479 --> 02:08:50.720 Oh yeah, they'd still be there. They'd still be there 2133 02:08:52.039 --> 02:08:54.000 that is noted. 2134 02:08:54.760 --> 02:08:56.680 Yeah, brankfast is not provided. 2135 02:08:57.079 --> 02:08:59.680 I think that's the point. Though. The more time you 2136 02:08:59.720 --> 02:09:04.199 can spend in the house unsupervised, I think the better 2137 02:09:04.560 --> 02:09:08.600 that that that. I think that's when you'll start feeling energies, 2138 02:09:09.520 --> 02:09:13.640 having more opportunities to see things that I that's so, 2139 02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:15.319 that's what I would say. My advice would be, just 2140 02:09:15.359 --> 02:09:17.520 stay in the house. If you're really that interested in it, 2141 02:09:17.640 --> 02:09:19.279 just stay there for a night. 2142 02:09:21.239 --> 02:09:25.439 I agree, without a Wiji board, yes. 2143 02:09:25.880 --> 02:09:27.359 Or however you decide to do it. 2144 02:09:27.880 --> 02:09:28.279 Mm hmm. 2145 02:09:30.399 --> 02:09:33.840 Well, with that being said, I'm ready to wrap everything up. 2146 02:09:35.520 --> 02:09:39.279 I appreciate every I appreciate everybody, uh going on this 2147 02:09:39.359 --> 02:09:45.359 tour with us, the verbal tour, which I actually think 2148 02:09:45.600 --> 02:09:47.960 will hopefully be a little bit more interesting than the 2149 02:09:48.039 --> 02:09:54.279 actual tour probably so, and bring your earbuds with you 2150 02:09:54.319 --> 02:09:57.199 and just listen to us talk this crap as you 2151 02:09:57.279 --> 02:10:04.680 walk around the actual house. It would be a phenomenal tour. Idea. Uh, 2152 02:10:06.119 --> 02:10:13.039 that'd be that the genius. But I appreciate everybody coming on, 2153 02:10:13.479 --> 02:10:15.479 and I appreciate you coming out. How was your How 2154 02:10:15.520 --> 02:10:18.199 was your trip by the way before week before. 2155 02:10:17.880 --> 02:10:20.359 We go, Oh, I thought it was great. I thought 2156 02:10:20.399 --> 02:10:23.079 it was some good bonding time. I got to see 2157 02:10:23.119 --> 02:10:26.439 my brother more than I did for most of my 2158 02:10:26.560 --> 02:10:30.159 life in this short week. He actually hung out with 2159 02:10:30.199 --> 02:10:34.439 me every day while while I was up there. And 2160 02:10:34.720 --> 02:10:37.439 I think there's something to be said about like our 2161 02:10:37.479 --> 02:10:42.079 family is small, but we're really close and we all 2162 02:10:42.159 --> 02:10:46.520 like love the same stuff too, because a lot of 2163 02:10:46.560 --> 02:10:49.359 people have to like take their friends on ghost tours 2164 02:10:49.439 --> 02:10:51.840 or something, but we're all like into it and we're 2165 02:10:51.840 --> 02:10:55.079 all like, let's do it together and that that's like 2166 02:10:55.159 --> 02:10:58.399 forever memories and stuff. I think it was great. 2167 02:10:58.720 --> 02:11:00.479 I did too, mm hmm. 2168 02:11:01.439 --> 02:11:03.239 And let's do it again. Man, Like I said, believe 2169 02:11:03.279 --> 02:11:05.760 in ghosts or not, if you spend time with your family, 2170 02:11:05.800 --> 02:11:07.800 I'm all for it to day. 2171 02:11:09.319 --> 02:11:12.960 Let's get locked in an insanitorium next time. 2172 02:11:17.119 --> 02:11:22.560 But whether whether we're alone with your family and out 2173 02:11:22.680 --> 02:11:25.399 and you feel like you need to stop and get 2174 02:11:25.439 --> 02:11:28.000 a little bit of a drink, or let's say you're 2175 02:11:28.039 --> 02:11:32.279 giving a tour and hell, it's been twenty minutes since 2176 02:11:32.319 --> 02:11:35.159 your last drink and maybe you he just sneaked off 2177 02:11:35.199 --> 02:11:38.600 into the level of room and get another one. When 2178 02:11:38.600 --> 02:11:40.560 do you do it? Just do it in the name 2179 02:11:40.640 --> 02:11:44.640 of Cleveland. Schwell, and I'll tell you what, as long 2180 02:11:44.680 --> 02:11:46.840 as you do it in the name of Cleveland swell. 2181 02:11:48.199 --> 02:11:53.199 We appreciate you, and we'll see you next time time, 2182 02:12:19.880 --> 02:12:19.920 and