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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to see you at the Potty Richter.
Speaker 3: I'm Chris Chapman and with me as always, I'm a
Speaker 3: co hosts Aaron Frascus Hello, and Joseph beck Castro.
Speaker 1: Hello, gut guys.
Speaker 3: Today we are going to be looking at some production
Speaker 3: info for Arnold's nineteen ninety comedy family vehicle, Kindergarten Cop.
Speaker 3: We are going to be joined by a very special guest,
Speaker 3: mister Dave Callens. Welcome Dave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's me. Hey, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for joining us. So yeah, now I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna throw it over to Aaron, who's going to tell
Speaker 3: us all about this. I'm sure very normal production totally.
Speaker 2: First off, before we dive in, I need to make
Speaker 2: a quick correction about something from a previous episode. So,
Speaker 2: because Kindergarten Cop was Arnold Schwarzenegger's second time working with
Speaker 2: Ivan Wrightman, one of the first things I did was
Speaker 2: go back and read through my notes when we cover twins.
Speaker 2: That way, I could avoid any like anything we'd already
Speaker 2: covered basically, and holy crap, like I was really doing
Speaker 2: some like screen rant caliber like level of research for
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: It's just it's not it's not good.
Speaker 2: Why anyway, As far as the correction in that episode,
Speaker 2: I mentioned that Ivan Rightman brought in two writers to
Speaker 2: rewrite the film, who were Timothy Harris and herschel Weingrad
Speaker 2: that he'd previously worked with on the nineteen eighty three
Speaker 2: film Trading Places, which Harris and Winegrad had written. The
Speaker 2: only problem is that Ivan Rightman was in no way
Speaker 2: involved with Trading Places. Like it was just dumb because
Speaker 2: I was like, how did I manage to do that?
Speaker 2: Because I was like why, like and I tried to
Speaker 2: find out, like looking like there's got to be a
Speaker 2: reason why I wrote this down, like why else would
Speaker 2: I write it down? I didn't find anything. So actually,
Speaker 2: like really listening to the Twins episode, hoping that maybe
Speaker 2: I didn't say it, But no, I didn't, So I'm like,
Speaker 2: otherwise I wouldn't be correcting it now. But anyway, okay,
Speaker 2: So anyway onto Kindergarten Cop, which reunites Arnold Schwartzenegger with
Speaker 2: The Twins director Ivan Rerightman and to find out how
Speaker 2: they both became attached to the film. We're going to
Speaker 2: take a second to fill in the gap between the
Speaker 2: two movies. So Twins was released in December nineteen eighty eight, and,
Speaker 2: in addition to becoming the year's fifth highest grossing film worldwide,
Speaker 2: it also opened up doors for Schwarzenegger career wise by
Speaker 2: showing that he could actually do comedy. It was also
Speaker 2: Arnold's final film of the eighties, with his next three
Speaker 2: projects all being released in nineteen ninety, one of which
Speaker 2: was the Tales from the Crypt episode he directed, which
Speaker 2: aired in April.
Speaker 1: I'm out who directed that?
Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger directed an episode. Yeah, he directed one that
Speaker 2: was started Kelly Preston. And it's like it's called the Switch.
Speaker 2: It's like the first or second episode of the second season.
Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, it's it's fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we watched it.
Speaker 2: It was all right, but and the other one was
Speaker 2: Total Recall, which was released in June, And I'm curious
Speaker 2: if he was working on both of those projects at
Speaker 2: the same time, because I'm not sure how long production
Speaker 2: lasted on Total Recall because we haven't done it yet,
Speaker 2: but I'm assuming it head to be at least like
Speaker 2: ninety days.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, probably longer than that. I feel like for
Speaker 3: a movie.
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but don't most shows try to
Speaker 2: like have each episode like shot and wrapped, I think
Speaker 2: in like a week or something.
Speaker 3: I think they try to do him in a week,
Speaker 3: but I don't know how, because Tales from the Crypto
Speaker 3: was what like HBO HBO. Yeah, so I don't know
Speaker 3: how their productions work. They might be a little different
Speaker 3: than like normal television.
Speaker 2: I don't know, O care anyway. I'm sure we'll find
Speaker 2: out when we do Total Recall. But Arnold really doesn't
Speaker 2: talk too much about Kindergarten cop in his twenty two
Speaker 2: of autobiography, but he does mention the first time he
Speaker 2: read the script for it, which was in the spring
Speaker 2: of eighty nine, and he was a busy guy at
Speaker 2: the time. He was filling Total Recall and expecting his
Speaker 2: first child with Maria Shriver. He ends up giving his
Speaker 2: first impressions of the script, saying, quote, one day, in
Speaker 2: my trailer wedding through scripts, I came across a draft
Speaker 2: of Kindergarten cop. I couldn't put it down. The idea
Speaker 2: of a tough detective who has to go undercover teaching
Speaker 2: a bunch of preschoolers made me laugh. People in Hollywood
Speaker 2: always say, never act with kids or animals. They're impossible
Speaker 2: to work with, and they look so cute on screen
Speaker 2: that they steal the show. He says, I already had
Speaker 2: experience with animals as Conan, and the book actually does
Speaker 2: real quick, the book actually does.
Speaker 1: Wait, he's counting Conan as experienced animal? Yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: it was it the giant snake or.
Speaker 3: A terrifying experience with the dogs? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Like the book does include a picture example, like right
Speaker 2: next to the text of this, which was just a
Speaker 2: production still of Conan punching the camel in the face,
Speaker 2: which I thought was like a oh yeah experience.
Speaker 1: Okay, weird inclusion. He's like, e experience with animals, just
Speaker 1: cut smash cut to them punching a camel in the face.
Speaker 3: Experience.
Speaker 1: I feel like every actor says that they couldn't put
Speaker 1: the script down when they talk about whatever movie. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's been a ton of bad movies where
Speaker 1: they couldn't put the script down. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: because it's bad. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Uh, by the way that that picture is not in
Speaker 2: the book, just making that clear.
Speaker 1: I want to make that clear, like it's one book,
Speaker 1: but that picture is in the Camel's autobiography. That's when
Speaker 1: he quit show business.
Speaker 3: They say, let me work with Austrians and they.
Speaker 4: So. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He continues by saying, quote, I'd already had experience with
Speaker 2: animals as Conan and they'd been fine. But I'd be
Speaker 2: interested in doing a movie with kids for years, and
Speaker 2: the prospect of.
Speaker 1: The kid exactly.
Speaker 2: The prospect of becoming a dad inspired me. I thought, great,
Speaker 2: let the kids still the show as long as the
Speaker 2: movie succeeds end quote. He then says his next step
Speaker 2: was to get The Twins director Ivan Wrightman on board,
Speaker 2: who in the spring of eighty nine, I believe from
Speaker 2: the timeline I kind of found, but I believe was
Speaker 2: most likely in the middle of reshoots for Ghostbusters Too,
Speaker 2: which from the little about it I read, seems like
Speaker 2: it wasn't the most enjoyable movie to make. Just add
Speaker 2: a bunch of problems, like pretty much from the get go,
Speaker 2: and we're not going to get really get into it.
Speaker 1: Also, in my opinion, also was not an enjoyable movie.
Speaker 1: I did not like that one. I liked that movie.
Speaker 2: But again, I think that's like nostalgia because like, I
Speaker 2: loved that movie when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Well, I loved the first one, so I went to
Speaker 1: see the second one. I'm a little bit older than
Speaker 1: you guys, so me and my friend went to the
Speaker 1: second one, and we made the mistake of going to
Speaker 1: a Saturday mattinee, so it was like us as teenagers
Speaker 1: and then like a million children, which just made the
Speaker 1: experience that much worse.
Speaker 3: Yes, I watched the second one first, so that was
Speaker 3: like the same. Wow, I liked it more than the
Speaker 3: first one for a long time.
Speaker 1: I mean I still do. We're shutting this podcast now,
Speaker 1: so yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Should check out the behind the scenes stuff from nexuse.
Speaker 2: It's interesting anyway. So from there, Arnold kind of skips
Speaker 2: forward from there in his book, saying quote then I
Speaker 2: asked Ivan wrightman, if you direct me again, we both
Speaker 2: wanted changes in the script to add social relevance. I
Speaker 2: wanted to add a physical fitness theme and he wanted
Speaker 2: He wanted it to touch on broken homes, child abuse,
Speaker 2: and family life.
Speaker 1: But we agreed to go ahead. You know that you
Speaker 1: mentioned that it does kind of now that with that
Speaker 1: in mind, it does kind of feel like those were
Speaker 1: just sort of crammed in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's a reason behind that too, so which
Speaker 2: we'll get to in just a second. But he's He
Speaker 2: finishes by saying, so, since I haven't already had Ghostbusters
Speaker 2: two in the works for the nineteen eighty nine holidays,
Speaker 2: we started planning Kindergarten Cop for Christmas nineteen ninety end quote.
Speaker 2: That's basically all he had to say about the movie
Speaker 2: in his book, besides like a mention that Kindergarten Cop
Speaker 2: ended up being a hit, before transitioning into talking about
Speaker 2: some movie made with James Cameron the next year. I
Speaker 2: don't know, And I wasn't even gonna mention that arnold
Speaker 2: quote from his book because it's pretty much just basic
Speaker 2: info about the summary and the release date. But while
Speaker 2: I was reading about Ghostbusters too, I came across a
Speaker 2: pretty interesting article featuring Ivan Wrightman. That definitely made it
Speaker 2: seem like he might have been going through some shit
Speaker 2: right before signing on to Kindergarten cop So it was
Speaker 2: a December nineteen eighty nine Los Angeles Times article titled
Speaker 2: Hollywood's Hottest comedy director takes a break, and in it,
Speaker 2: Ivan Wrightman discusses a few of the reasons that let
Speaker 2: him lead to his decision to tell the studios behind
Speaker 2: both Twins and Ghostbusters, which were universal in Columbia, that
Speaker 2: he had absolutely no interest in doing sequels for either film.
Speaker 2: He just done Ghostbusters, Too Yeah, So he basically told
Speaker 2: him and he needed a break, with one of the
Speaker 2: reasons being the negative reception from both critics and audiences
Speaker 2: towards Ghostbusters, Too Yeah, which had been out for about
Speaker 2: six months at the time and had been shipped on
Speaker 2: by pretty much everyone except for.
Speaker 1: Me at the time. Still You'll come right, But he.
Speaker 2: Does give a good reasons for what why he why
Speaker 2: the Ghostbusters sequel? I mean, I I've done as well
Speaker 2: as the first film, which David tell me I can biased,
Speaker 2: but anyway, same quotes.
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make a new
Speaker 1: podcast dedicated to shitting on Ghostbusters two and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be called busting. Does not make me feel good Ghostbusters pooh.
Speaker 2: So he says about it. He says, in comedy, the
Speaker 2: element of surprises everything. And I think once that element
Speaker 2: of surprise is gone, once people know there's going to
Speaker 2: be ghosts, there's going to be big ghosts, and they're
Speaker 2: expecting something big at the end, a lot of the
Speaker 2: tools that are at your disposals are gone. End quote,
Speaker 2: which I found funny because that's like totally a similar
Speaker 2: vibe to what Terminator three director Jonathan Mostow said when
Speaker 2: he was looking back at that movie. He's like, because
Speaker 2: Jonathan Mostow basically said about Terminator three, well, Terminator two
Speaker 2: already did all this cool stuff, So what do you
Speaker 2: what do you want to do? Like, they're not going
Speaker 2: to be like thrilled, like uh, like wowed by anything else.
Speaker 2: They already saw.
Speaker 1: The Liquid Metal Man. Is that the one that you
Speaker 1: posted that like snippet from that interview with the guy
Speaker 1: who wrote it about I was just shipping on everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, that was that was the writer. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but what it was about T three?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that was about T three though, But
Speaker 2: that was that guy's if you should read that blog,
Speaker 2: if you've seen that movie, it's just like bitter, very
Speaker 2: very bitter. But that's like, that's true. Is that part
Speaker 2: of the reason why you don't why it's ship like
Speaker 2: just because it's this it's rehashing the same story beats
Speaker 2: as the first one, or it's just it.
Speaker 1: Was just a stupid story. Okay, curious what was the story? Uh,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it since that first time in theaters.
Speaker 1: I've seen piece of it here and there. But the
Speaker 1: way I remember it is like it was just the
Speaker 1: cheesiest like love conquers all, like I hold the villain.
Speaker 3: That is, it's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: You got they got New York together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Statue of Liberty comes to life. Yes, it
Speaker 3: rallies all the New Yorkers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, what's the song called I Liked by the world?
Speaker 3: Love keeps lifting behind, You're lifting higher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Jackie Wilson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's terrible, terrible so.
Speaker 2: Good anyway, So I've been right. Man also to expressed
Speaker 2: his disappointment about Ghostbusters Too not doing as well financially
Speaker 2: as the first one, with it only being nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: Nine's seventh highest grossing movie worldwide and eighth highest grossing
Speaker 2: movie domestically, which must have been just.
Speaker 1: Embarrassed that I was gonna say. That sounds like it's
Speaker 1: not bad, but you gotta remember there are only eleven
Speaker 1: movies released that year.
Speaker 2: It's just like that, poor guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, although I guess comparatively, the first Ghostbusters was the
Speaker 5: top grossing film of nineteen eighty four domestically, and then
Speaker 5: the second highest grossing worldwide, which I think the one
Speaker 5: that beat it.
Speaker 1: Out was Beverly Hills Cop.
Speaker 2: And then and then that same La Times article mentions
Speaker 2: that Ivan Rightman's seven films prior to Kindergarten Cop had
Speaker 2: grossed a combined total of three billion worldwide, making him
Speaker 2: the most successful comedy director at that time. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if that's still the case.
Speaker 1: The case, No, no way, Like I was trying to
Speaker 1: the appetite for sure, maybe like yeah, the one that
Speaker 1: made the hangover.
Speaker 2: It, but yeah, yeah, I guess so. Like he did
Speaker 2: have a few a few films after this, but they
Speaker 2: weren't nearly as like big as as those anyway.
Speaker 1: Are we going to are we going to bate rules
Speaker 1: where we're not going to fact check you. I mean
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: One of the reasons this took the longest because I was, like,
Speaker 2: I tried to make it clear when I couldn't find like,
Speaker 2: it's all basically anything I found on IMDb. I let
Speaker 2: you know, because everything on IMDb is it's just people
Speaker 2: posting stuff on there. But anyway, so brought by the way,
Speaker 2: the seven prior films were ghost was I can only
Speaker 2: think of three of them Ghostbusters, two Twins, Legal Eagles,
Speaker 2: which I've never heard of, ghost Legs, Yes, and uh
Speaker 2: Deborah Winger? Really did you you watch?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 1: Was Winger? I barely know her. I've never seen that one.
Speaker 1: I just remember it was out.
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters, Stripes, Meatballs, and then Cannonball Girls.
Speaker 1: His first ones. That one sounds fake? Is that a
Speaker 1: real movie? That was it in the Cannonball Run Cinematic Universe?
Speaker 1: Unrelated same thing?
Speaker 2: Actually I didn't look that one up, but I'm pretty
Speaker 2: so we're gonna assume it's the same thing that that
Speaker 2: was Sally Field's movie. Anyway, Okay, Sally Fields. I keep
Speaker 2: calling her that because that's what I Arnold calls there
Speaker 2: instead of just Sally Field. He could like in one interview,
Speaker 2: he called ther Sally Fields.
Speaker 1: And now every time I do anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So while looking up what those seven movies were,
Speaker 2: I noticed that the box office numbers didn't quite add
Speaker 2: up to the three billion total that was mentioned in
Speaker 2: the ell.
Speaker 1: Are we end of conspiracy is just like a follow
Speaker 1: of the money thing, like, well, we're going to get
Speaker 1: the bottom of this.
Speaker 2: I was, But then I realized that they probably also
Speaker 2: included VHS sales, which I kind of confirmed when I
Speaker 2: saw the VHS sales numbers for the first Ghostbusters, which,
Speaker 2: holy shit like released in October nineteen eighty five, sold
Speaker 2: four hundred thousand copies by December or sorry, by February
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six, so it earned thirty two million dollars
Speaker 2: in home video sales in the first four months that
Speaker 2: it was released.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's a little old man tibbot for you. When
Speaker 1: VHS was new, Like, one of the first VHS casets
Speaker 1: we got was Raiders Lost Arc. It was eighty dollars. Shit, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: wonder the sales are so crazy for that. I'm curious how.
Speaker 2: I'm curious how that did on VHS because that was
Speaker 2: was that one of the first ones.
Speaker 1: It was probably pretty early. Yeah, Okay, well, you guys
Speaker 1: were all somebody you like live with, like the Rockefellers or.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 2: Like shit, because was that like your Christmas and Birthday present?
Speaker 1: Or then that was yeah, we sold one of the cars.
Speaker 2: Anyway, As far as the VHS sales, even if you
Speaker 2: don't include those sales, Rightman's four films prior to Kindergarten Cops,
Speaker 2: which were twins, Legal Eagles, and the two Ghostbusters, still
Speaker 2: made a combined total of eight hundred million worldwide at
Speaker 2: the in.
Speaker 1: Box office sales.
Speaker 6: Jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Apparently though his negative experience making Ghostbusters too was bad
Speaker 2: enough that Rightman decided he just wanted to take a
Speaker 2: break from directing comedy.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, good for him, Yeah, with him.
Speaker 2: Telling the La Times that same on ELI Times article
Speaker 2: saying quote, usually, as I'm finishing a film, I startes
Speaker 2: dating an idea for the next film. I purposely sort
Speaker 2: of forced myself not to this time. I think the
Speaker 2: break will help me develop a fresh perspective on what
Speaker 2: I'm doing. And this quote right here is what is
Speaker 2: a pan of the ass about researching these Because that
Speaker 2: quote and even just the timing of the La Times
Speaker 2: article in general kind of contradicts what we just heard
Speaker 2: from Arnold, because in his book he jumps from like
Speaker 2: I said, asking Ivan Wrightman to direct to both of
Speaker 2: them wanting script changes, to then finally them deciding to
Speaker 2: shoot for a Christmas nineteen ninety release because quote, Ivan
Speaker 2: already had Ghostbusters two in the works for the nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty nine holidays, which actually, no, he didn't.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 1: Ghostbusters two came out in June nineteen eighty nine. I
Speaker 1: think we got to chalk that up to a Mandela effects.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we also figured out that he's like in
Speaker 2: the it's it took me a while to realize, like,
Speaker 2: I can't take what he's saying in the book because
Speaker 2: like a like, I gotta fact check the book basically
Speaker 2: because the dates aren't correct. So I'm like, wait, wait,
Speaker 2: wait a second, I thought in this book he said
Speaker 2: in the book he said this, and it's anyway, So yeah,
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters two came out in July nineteen eighty nine, and
Speaker 2: then Ivan Rightman quote I just read it from December
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine. So it seems likely and this is
Speaker 2: one hundred percent speculation on my part, by the way,
Speaker 2: but it seems likely that Ivan Rightman was possibly in
Speaker 2: full break mode when Arnold approached him about directing Kindergarten Cop.
Speaker 1: Should uh, should we get Ivan and Arnold on the
Speaker 1: pod just to sort it out? Please?
Speaker 2: Let's yes, absolutely, especially Ivan Rightman actually would be a
Speaker 2: get Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think he's taking a break right now, unfortunately
Speaker 1: taking a break.
Speaker 2: So but if that's true, and Ivan Rightman actually wasn't
Speaker 2: a break in the eighty nine, then I'm guessing Arnold's
Speaker 2: promise of script changes were probably one of the ways
Speaker 2: he was able to convince him to direct the film.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I only say that because in that same article,
Speaker 2: Rightman admits what could bring him back to direct, saying quote, Oh, sorry,
Speaker 2: I I see what you're laughing at.
Speaker 3: You just like, yeah, he just gives him the script
Speaker 3: and he's He's like, I'm not really doing movies right now.
Speaker 7: He's like, you could put child abuse in it.
Speaker 2: Rightman says in the article, quote, all of the films
Speaker 2: I've made to date have been relatively large scale films
Speaker 2: with elaborate concepts, and I'd like to try a few
Speaker 2: things on a more human scale and see how it
Speaker 2: works out. It's not so much that I want to
Speaker 2: turn to serious drama right now and bear my soul anymore.
Speaker 2: That's then it's baared. It's just I think it would
Speaker 2: be fun to tell a smaller story, less plot and
Speaker 2: more characters. I think I have to move people emotionally
Speaker 2: much more.
Speaker 1: H Yeah, end quote.
Speaker 2: But that definitely helps. Like Arnold's mention of the script
Speaker 2: like it may helped it make it like it made
Speaker 2: more sense on the script change, Like what I haven't
Speaker 2: Rightman asked, Arnold' stuff already made sense with the physical
Speaker 2: fitness stuffy exactly. I'm not sure why. I'm not sure why,
Speaker 2: he said. Rightman was busy with Ghostbusters too at the time,
Speaker 2: but whatever, like whatever, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So interesting too, Like, based on what you said so far,
Speaker 1: it seems like Arnold is the one who made this
Speaker 1: movie happen, like he got Ivan to direct, which makes
Speaker 1: me wonder how did he end up with a script,
Speaker 1: because you wouldn't think like someone's writing the script with
Speaker 1: Arnold in mind. Wow, damn, you.
Speaker 2: Just transitioning me like perfect right into the next dar Okay,
Speaker 2: so before before we get there, but before we move
Speaker 2: on from the director, there was one piece of trivia
Speaker 2: from IMDb that I wanted to mention that says Ron
Speaker 2: Howard was considered to direct as the film this is
Speaker 2: per I think I copied this directly from my MDB,
Speaker 2: but so the grammar anyway. Ron Howard was considered to
Speaker 2: direct as the film was made by the production company
Speaker 2: by his production company, Imagined Entertainment, which he founded with
Speaker 2: producer Brian Grazer, but Arnold Schwarzenegger said he would only
Speaker 2: do the movie if I've Bean Wrightman directed, so Brian
Speaker 2: Grazer eventually secured Schwarzenegger to star in the film, and
Speaker 2: Ron Howard went on.
Speaker 1: To direct Backdraft.
Speaker 8: Huh.
Speaker 1: That's actually kind of funny because that's like Ron Har's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to direct this, and I was like, fuck off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like it could be true, But I couldn't
Speaker 2: find any mention of it besides the IMDb trivia, which,
Speaker 2: as we've mentioned before, anyone with an email address can
Speaker 2: add to and I'm assuming it's it's definitely have. My
Speaker 2: favorite piece of trivia got on there, which says quote
Speaker 2: Catherine O'Hara was considered for the role of Phoebiohara, Hence
Speaker 2: the character has the same last name as the actress,
Speaker 2: which she was busy with hom home alone and turned
Speaker 2: down the offer. I'm like, because that's how casting works.
Speaker 2: They always like to start with the actors that have
Speaker 2: the same last name to anyone else.
Speaker 1: It makes it easier on the actor. They know what
Speaker 1: their motivation is. They can relate exactly.
Speaker 2: Like I'm pretty sure Christian Bale was only high Like
Speaker 2: it was only cast as Batman because the warlock hired
Speaker 2: by Warner Brothers failed to resurrect John Wayne still.
Speaker 1: Waiting for Did you imagine John Wayne playing that would
Speaker 1: be amazing? Oh my god? Okay, so uh moving on.
Speaker 2: Kindergarten Cop had a few different writers credited, with the
Speaker 2: original story and screenplay written by former actor attorney. Is
Speaker 2: that right? By the way I was, I was gonna like, Okay,
Speaker 2: so it's a former He was a former actor but
Speaker 2: he turned to screenwriter. Do you need to say the
Speaker 2: former part when you say when you put four actor
Speaker 2: turned screenwriter.
Speaker 3: I guess if he completely stopped acting, you would.
Speaker 2: Say former like nine nine percent Surrey he did, so
Speaker 2: I see his point, though, they'd be like saying, they
Speaker 2: might as well say former actor to present screenwriter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's why it wasn't sure. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why anyway, It's okay.
Speaker 2: Written by some guy named Murray Salem, who unfortunately ended
Speaker 2: up passing away in nineteen ninety seven from complications related
Speaker 2: to aids UH. And even though Kindergarten cop is his
Speaker 2: only writing credit listed on IMDb, Salem actually had a
Speaker 2: fairly successful career during the fifteen years he spent as
Speaker 2: a screenwriter, which he ended up selling eight of his
Speaker 2: nine scripts that he.
Speaker 1: Wrote, Wow nice. They were all based on police working
Speaker 1: under covered to school.
Speaker 2: And this is this is all this information about Murray
Speaker 2: Salem comes from a twenty sixteen article from it's called
Speaker 2: Clevescene dot com. It's a Cleveland it's called Cleveland Scene.
Speaker 2: It's a Cleveland newspaper anyway, But that profile of his life.
Speaker 2: But yeah, seven of the eight, so seven of those
Speaker 2: eight scripts he sold one unmade for more or less
Speaker 2: being too similar to other projects, Like they'd either be
Speaker 2: bought up and then eventually scrapped once a different studio
Speaker 2: released a similar project, or a studio would buy his
Speaker 2: script with the express purpose of shelving it due to
Speaker 2: the premise being too similar to another project that they
Speaker 2: are that they already had in the works, which.
Speaker 1: Well, now thinking he's written like Kindergarten Terminator just keeps
Speaker 1: doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: Which that's awesome that he was able to make a
Speaker 2: like a pretty good living selling of scripts. But that's
Speaker 2: still kind of gotta suck, like at least a little
Speaker 2: bit that you're.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that none of them get made, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it could be just the racket he's on.
Speaker 8: He's like, oh, man, I hear they're.
Speaker 1: Making that two Volcano.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I got to write a movie Lava and they
Speaker 8: have to buy.
Speaker 1: It just like sorry.
Speaker 2: I was just like imagining someone asking him like have
Speaker 2: you written anything, and being like, well, have you seen
Speaker 2: The Devil's Advocate.
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, did you write that?
Speaker 2: He's like, well, no, but I did write something like
Speaker 2: a similar story that Warner Brothers bought the script for,
Speaker 2: but like job was just to make sure that no
Speaker 2: one woind mails wouldn't make it first.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't have you heard of Kindergarten Advocate? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might keep going on that choking.
Speaker 2: The Devil's Advocate and The First Wives Club were two
Speaker 2: of the ones that were excited as like reasons that
Speaker 2: the studio bought up the scripts that were similar to it.
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say. They actually started
Speaker 3: off as very similar scripts.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: So Murray Salem eventually decided that in order to make
Speaker 2: a name for himself, he needed to switch gears write
Speaker 2: something more commercially viable than his usual scripts, which seemed
Speaker 2: to lean way more to the dramatic side. I think
Speaker 2: one was about like like kids in like teenagers in prison,
Speaker 2: and then the other one was about like a like
Speaker 2: a argentine er Colombian revolution or something like that. But
Speaker 2: then he also had the first wives Club one, and
Speaker 2: the and the one about the devil falling in love
Speaker 2: I think, so it's kind of all over the place anyway.
Speaker 1: So uh.
Speaker 2: He was inspired by funny stories from a like during
Speaker 2: a twentieth high school reunion that a former classmate was
Speaker 2: telling about teaching kindergarten.
Speaker 1: So, oh my god, now I'm picturing that that guy
Speaker 1: watching the movie, like that motherfucker, I told him this story.
Speaker 1: This is me. Where's my credit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see, you can't, you can You can't do
Speaker 2: anything about that, right, It's just that son of a bitch, Because.
Speaker 1: At the end of every movie they put all situations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Salem Salem came up with a story that
Speaker 2: was partly the weapon part baby Boom, which he wrote
Speaker 2: specifically with Schwarzenegger in mind.
Speaker 1: But yeah.
Speaker 2: He ended up selling Kindergarten cop to Imagine Entertainment, which
Speaker 2: brought Arnold on board to star.
Speaker 1: So he he just wrote the script is like here's
Speaker 1: some crazy teachers thing. Yeah, didn't imagine. So now someone
Speaker 1: had Imagine was like, you know who'd be good in this? Well?
Speaker 2: Can you you can? Like uh like he it's the
Speaker 2: article said that he wrote it with Schwarzenegger in mind,
Speaker 2: like you can?
Speaker 1: Can you do?
Speaker 2: They usually put like a Schwarzenegger type or something like and.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, a lot of scripts do that, like oh
Speaker 1: this is like this character is like a Brad Pitt
Speaker 1: type or Okay, especially if it's someone marketable Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: which I think Arnold was at the time.
Speaker 2: I'm not positive but I don't know, but yes he was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so Imagine brought in Arnold and then they
Speaker 2: eventually brought I even write men to direct. They then
Speaker 2: brought well Ivan write mean technically then ended up hiring
Speaker 2: a couple of screenwriters to punch up the script and
Speaker 2: handle those rewrites that Arnold mentioned which Murray Salem was
Speaker 2: obviously not very happy about. But he kind of it
Speaker 2: was out of basically out of his control, like he
Speaker 2: knew he could do.
Speaker 3: Doesn't that happen to every writer? I feel like that
Speaker 3: happens a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But it's also kind of funny because like he stole
Speaker 1: his friend's stories to make a movie. His friends mad,
Speaker 1: and then someone changed it and it's like, now he's mad.
Speaker 1: So it just keeps getting like shifted up a little.
Speaker 2: By the way, these uh, these were the same two
Speaker 2: writers that the writers that were brought in with the
Speaker 2: same two writers I mentioned at the top of the
Speaker 2: episode that I've been brought into rewrite Twins, Timothy Harris
Speaker 2: and herschel Winegrond. Yeah, you know, the same guys.
Speaker 1: That he worked with on Trading Places. At least I
Speaker 1: think I have been written down, so it's gotta be true.
Speaker 1: So actually those two writers, that's what Trading Place was
Speaker 1: based on, was those guys had a similar thing happened
Speaker 1: in their life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he kept they kept Trading Places with the original
Speaker 2: writers of stories, but we barely met We barely bothered
Speaker 2: to mention it in the Twins episode, but Harris and
Speaker 2: Winingrod had been writing partners since the early eighties. In
Speaker 2: addition to trading places in twins, they also wrote Brewster's
Speaker 2: Millions and My Stepmother is an Alien in the eighties,
Speaker 2: and then Pures Millions fun don't have watched that's see,
Speaker 2: I get a mixed up product the toy which which wow,
Speaker 2: that did not age well.
Speaker 1: Which I don't know.
Speaker 2: Bruser's Millions is the one where like he's guests to
Speaker 2: spend like a million dollars in like a.
Speaker 3: Thirty million dollars in thirty days, and if he does,
Speaker 3: he gets three hundred million. Okay, was like it was
Speaker 3: just it's like an inheritance from an he.
Speaker 1: Can't have any of the show forty benefit from and
Speaker 1: he just got a wasted.
Speaker 3: He has to be completely broke at the end of
Speaker 3: the thirty days.
Speaker 2: I mean I could do that doing that now Millions
Speaker 2: my stepmother is Nayalen.
Speaker 1: I didn't what that's like?
Speaker 2: Dank d yeah, kim basing here, uh, and then sorry.
Speaker 2: In the nineties, they wrote Pure Luck with Martin Short
Speaker 2: and Daniel Martin, which I.
Speaker 1: Remember the poster for but never watched. Yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: they both have bad luck. I think you know, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that being pretty terrible. And then they wrote
Speaker 1: Space Jam, which is just, you know, a movie. I
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: But again, let's tell ja by the way, they did
Speaker 2: not write Falling Down, which I credited them with writing
Speaker 2: in the Twins episode, just throwing that out there. They
Speaker 2: did produce it, though, so at least there's a connection,
Speaker 2: which is good.
Speaker 1: I would think they wrote it's very similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a space jam, yeah exactly. Anyhow was as
Speaker 2: far as kindergarten cop.
Speaker 1: But do you look quick Falling Down? Do you guys
Speaker 1: saw that one?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I actually haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It's such a good movie. But it's
Speaker 1: so interesting because like you start out rooting for this
Speaker 1: guy and then he turns into the complete villain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is a very interesting take on a protagonist.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was still rooting for him. I've had
Speaker 2: that kind of dates where it's like, just leave the
Speaker 2: guy alone, like when.
Speaker 1: He's going to like murder his ex wife. You're like,
Speaker 1: I thought he was.
Speaker 3: Just kind of business people alone to murder his ex wife.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to visit his kid, and like I've
Speaker 1: all been there.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm siding with him anyway, just
Speaker 2: like the wrong side.
Speaker 1: Trying to get canceled. Yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2: So as far as Kindergarten cop, crack dot Com interviewed
Speaker 2: Timothy Harris, one of the writers the Well I Guess Rewriters,
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two for an article they were doing
Speaker 2: about Twins, with Harris mentioning that Ivan Wrightman brought him
Speaker 2: and Winingrod Herschel Winingrod in to rewrite Kindergarten Cop because
Speaker 2: Rightman did not care.
Speaker 1: For the original script.
Speaker 2: Harris also said that kindergart the Kindergarten Cop script suffered
Speaker 2: from the same problem that he felt was an issue
Speaker 2: with the Twin with a Twin or the Twins script,
Speaker 2: the original one, which was its forgettable action thriller b plot.
Speaker 2: He then continued by giving an example while simultaneously like
Speaker 2: patting himself on the back, saying, quote, people remember Schwarzenegger
Speaker 2: in the classroom with those kids, but they don't remember
Speaker 2: the even more complicated and in a way more central
Speaker 2: thriller plot unquote and like real quick dumb question, but
Speaker 2: would you guys say the secondary plot is the like
Speaker 2: in Kindergarten Cops? I feel like it kind of switches
Speaker 2: and then switches back, like as far as like the
Speaker 2: central plot and then like the subplot or whatever, like.
Speaker 1: Well, does it does feel like disjointed in the sense that,
Speaker 1: like the way I remember it, having just recently watched
Speaker 1: it changed it a little bit, But the way I
Speaker 1: remember it is like it's about it's a fish out
Speaker 1: of water. Yeah, it's this guy trying to teach kids,
Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, yeah, he was also trying
Speaker 1: to track down this drug dealer, like almost like they
Speaker 1: just threw that ot for like, hey, we need a
Speaker 1: purpose for this, so there you go, which I mean
Speaker 1: worked for me well.
Speaker 2: And then the which he shited way more on on
Speaker 2: the Twins one, but it was an article about Twins,
Speaker 2: but that for Twins he was talking about the the car,
Speaker 2: the stolen part that that Vincent steals. Like there, that's
Speaker 2: that part of the story.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like Twins has a way more like
Speaker 3: sort of weird and outlandish b plot, like the whole
Speaker 3: thing where he's got like this super secret piece of
Speaker 3: technology that's worth millions and millions of dollars and there's
Speaker 3: like hitman running around like taking people kind of like
Speaker 3: I don't really know what it is, but it's something.
Speaker 2: It's a plain part turbine, something like a super.
Speaker 3: Plain jet engine. Yeah, that worth millions of dollars. But
Speaker 3: he says seems really out of place versus like the
Speaker 3: character stuff that they're doing in Twins.
Speaker 1: But that's what he's saying is like, that's supposed to
Speaker 1: be the plot is like that piece of butts, and
Speaker 1: you don't really think about that. Yeah, yeah, that's he said.
Speaker 2: That was a problem with both films. He also said
Speaker 2: that part of it with at least Twins was that
Speaker 2: Ivan Rightman isn't an action director, so that might have
Speaker 2: heard it a little bit. I don't know anyways, Moving
Speaker 2: on a to casting, so Arnold Schwarzenegger supposedly made twelve
Speaker 2: million for the role, but like Dave mentioned during the summary,
Speaker 2: there were a few different actors they considered to play
Speaker 2: John Kimball. By the way, the two you won't you
Speaker 2: only mentioned two, right, Dave.
Speaker 1: I forget probably okay, we'll fix it.
Speaker 2: By the way, there were a few that I kept
Speaker 2: seeing but I couldn't find a source for besides being
Speaker 2: mentioned on IMDb trivia. But before we get to those three,
Speaker 2: I could confirmed could confirm with the first two. Sorry,
Speaker 2: the first two we mentioned, which were Bill Murray and
Speaker 2: Patrick Swayze, who book passed, and then the only other
Speaker 2: one I know for sure was Danny DeVito, who they
Speaker 2: supposedly passed on due to his height, although I couldn't
Speaker 2: confirm that that was the actual reason because none of
Speaker 2: the sites that I read that on bother to provide
Speaker 2: any source. And it feels like such an obvious reason
Speaker 2: because it's not like the producers were about to offer
Speaker 2: him the role and then one of them is like, what,
Speaker 2: he's only four to ten You fucking kidn't me now
Speaker 2: past like they knew how.
Speaker 1: Short he was. Yeah, yeah, So see, this is why I.
Speaker 4: Go to you.
Speaker 1: I know of IMDb. I love Wikipedia. That's why I
Speaker 1: get all my ships, Yes, because because they cite everything,
Speaker 1: and all three of those you mentioned have links to
Speaker 1: like articles.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's why. Uh, that's that's where I got those.
Speaker 2: I gets most of the stuff and then trying to
Speaker 2: do Google stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, IMDb could not imagine Bill Murray in that role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like so dry and so I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think Bill Murray would have been fine in the
Speaker 3: classroom parts. I don't think that would have been an issue, Like,
Speaker 3: like he had done meatballs and stuff with kids before that.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine him as the cop part for sure,
Speaker 3: like like in any way, not like there's no way
Speaker 3: he takes that seriously enough to be a detective. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: See, I think Danny DeVito would have been great because
Speaker 2: that's okay. Again, with a cop part, it might have
Speaker 2: been like, okay, well, like he.
Speaker 1: Would have sold it. That would have been over the top.
Speaker 1: It would have worked.
Speaker 2: But like with the kids, like to considering the fact
Speaker 2: that he's probably only a few inches taller than most
Speaker 2: of them, you got it pretty good interactions right there,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know, because he could play a really good
Speaker 3: dirt bag and a dirt bag having to go in
Speaker 3: and like play nice for the kids.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's kind of funny. But we also
Speaker 1: got to consider, like who were the other big action
Speaker 1: stars that were also trying to branch out on comedy
Speaker 1: at that time, because there was a stallone for sure
Speaker 1: was a big one. Yeah, oh, you guys know the
Speaker 1: sorry there's a way off topic, you know, the throw
Speaker 1: Mama from not you know that story?
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, how Schwartzenigger's tricked. Yeah, yeah, because that's great.
Speaker 1: Uh, Which was I think that he probably I was.
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety, right, was it or was that earlier?
Speaker 1: I don't think it was in the same around the
Speaker 1: same time. Yeah, I know it was around the same time.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly when.
Speaker 2: But well, I also have never seen a lot of
Speaker 2: Stillon's like eighties besides like the like Rambow, like, I've
Speaker 2: never like Cobra or I don't know.
Speaker 1: Octobra was so bad? Was it? Like? Was it like?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 2: Because it just reminded me of Rod Deal, like his
Speaker 2: version of Raw Deal, which.
Speaker 1: It was just it was so much worse because there
Speaker 1: literally was no plot, Like he was against these like
Speaker 1: this cabal of like psychotic killers. But all they did
Speaker 1: was they would stand in a warehouse and like clang
Speaker 1: axes together like they had no there's just clips of them,
Speaker 1: and then they would go fight stillone. It was the
Speaker 1: dumbest thing in the world. That's amazing, amazing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to watch anyway.
Speaker 2: Okay, So for the ones I couldn't confirm, First off,
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson, who I would assume would just be.
Speaker 1: Like a PG.
Speaker 2: Thirteen from version of his character from Chinatown or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: You know, it would have been fun from that era.
Speaker 2: Kurt Russell, that's actually one that I have, So that
Speaker 2: one he's really keeps getting grouped together with a like
Speaker 2: on a list with so Kurt Russell, Chuck Norris, and
Speaker 2: Robin Williams. We're at three that kept getting grouped together
Speaker 2: walk into a bar. Yeah, And there was one website that,
Speaker 2: uh said that the claim, like the whole that rumor
Speaker 2: of fact whatever came from quote the production team, which okay,
Speaker 2: can you be like less specific about it because that's
Speaker 2: pretty much anyone from what the director to like a
Speaker 2: PA that was fired, Like did you hear from one
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 3: Kids craft services?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, circling back to stallone real quick, Yes, you remember
Speaker 1: Tangling Cash. See I didn't watch that Rustling Oh so good?
Speaker 1: Really said, but that was stillan trying his hand in
Speaker 1: more comedic stuff. Oh yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: There A was the action comedy Oscar too. It was
Speaker 2: a comedy which I never saw.
Speaker 1: We don't talk about that. I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: didn't watch that one either, but I remember being a comedy.
Speaker 1: Nobody watched it. Yeah, what was not Turnern. Who was
Speaker 1: the one you just said, tang on cash.
Speaker 8: Yeah, oh I love that one because great movie. Stallone's
Speaker 8: like the the by the Book, you know, and Kurt
Speaker 8: Russell's The Loose Canyon, and they're like, we're not going
Speaker 8: to be.
Speaker 1: Partners, but then they have to be partners.
Speaker 8: I think at one point saloon they pull over like
Speaker 8: a oil rig. I think it was the first scene.
Speaker 8: So when I'm spoiling much and he like shoots it
Speaker 8: and cocaine comes down, He's like, piece is it? It's cocaine?
Speaker 1: But how did he know? Yeah, it's just good. That's
Speaker 1: exactly right, Yes, that good thing.
Speaker 3: It wasn't fucking oil in there. I was about to
Speaker 3: say that everybody else you could do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you start watching like the early nineties ones. I
Speaker 2: guess minus Oscar because Demolition Man's good too, but that.
Speaker 1: Mush Man's great. You could argue that his first dabble
Speaker 1: with comedy was over the top. That wasn't wasn't intended
Speaker 1: as a comedy. I think it came off.
Speaker 2: I remember that one, that one, that one I loved
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. Turn his hat around, I'll
Speaker 2: become a machine, Like why wouldn't it be a cowedy
Speaker 2: with that fucking pre It was just like, hey, man, what.
Speaker 8: If we like had a trucker who had a kid
Speaker 8: and he's got to go around winning bresting tournaments to
Speaker 8: like pay for his giits toy or so.
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I'm sorry to go with a soft,
Speaker 1: far off topic, but I just went down a rabbit
Speaker 1: hole earlier today. And do you guys remember the movie
Speaker 1: or heard of the movie any which way you can?
Speaker 1: Was it that's sequel to any which way? But loose?
Speaker 1: But that's one of the way I met the first one. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: because the all promise is he's just a truck driver
Speaker 1: who does bare knuckle fighting for extra money.
Speaker 2: And then but there's also there's also an orangutang in
Speaker 2: it or something like that too, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's just process that has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the plot. He gets met some motorcycle gang gets
Speaker 1: mad at him, so fox with him for the whole movie.
Speaker 1: It's just it's there's like nothing, it's the dumbest thing. Well,
Speaker 1: but it's very over the top and in that sense
Speaker 1: of like, hey, what if we just had a guy
Speaker 1: who does that's.
Speaker 2: That's uh, what's kind of a thing with the seventies, though,
Speaker 2: wasn't it, because like, uh, I the first I recently
Speaker 2: watched when we did The Villain, I watched for the
Speaker 2: first time. Uh can't well, I try to watch can outrun.
Speaker 3: But that was horrible.
Speaker 2: Smoking the Bandit, whoa you bite your tongue hilarious.
Speaker 1: I didn't get I didn't bring Jackie Chan. Come on,
Speaker 1: there was.
Speaker 2: Really it was. It was just uh, kind of like
Speaker 2: rat like, which was just the mad, bad, mad world.
Speaker 2: But it was like rat race basically, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the reason to race cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh, look in the Bandit I liked. It
Speaker 2: was just like the same kind of thing to where
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck am I watching? Like
Speaker 2: what's going on? It was just I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was back when plot was less important to
Speaker 1: people just looking coolly like, oh man, Burt Reynolds is
Speaker 1: so cool. Oh Burt Reynolds. He would have been a
Speaker 1: kindergarten cop.
Speaker 2: He would have been a yeah, because he did his
Speaker 2: version later with Cop and a Half, which I never watched,
Speaker 2: but I assuming I liked as a kid.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's gonna hold up anyway.
Speaker 2: So moving on to the rest of the cast. And
Speaker 2: by the way, all any rumored actress from here now
Speaker 2: from here on out are all unconfirmed because I started like,
Speaker 2: as I was looking up, I just like got over
Speaker 2: it once like the fourth person, I couldn't find anything
Speaker 2: on so anyway, But so for the the part of
Speaker 2: Rachel Crisps Crisp slash Joyce, the actresses supposedly considered for
Speaker 2: the role sound like a list from someone who was
Speaker 2: told to name six nineties actresses in ten seconds, so seriously, like,
Speaker 2: which is weird because I don't the timing of them anyway,
Speaker 2: So they include Helen Hunt, Sandra Bullock, who weren't like
Speaker 2: there would have been relatively new. This is for Joyce,
Speaker 2: the Penelope and Miller's role. Okay, yeah, they would have
Speaker 2: been relatively new at the time, so which whatever, Like
Speaker 2: I guess if they auditioned for it. But Julia Roberts,
Speaker 2: which is a big jump, like as far as like fame, Yeah, Brookshields,
Speaker 2: Geena Davis, and then Sally Field for some reason, which Fields,
Speaker 2: sorry Sally Fields, which I only find strange because she's
Speaker 2: the same age as Arnold, which whatever, But like Hollywood
Speaker 2: isn't exactly like the best with as far as age
Speaker 2: gaps when it comes to casting, like the male and
Speaker 2: female leads.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like Tangent if if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen The Substance a fantastic movie just because it talks
Speaker 1: about topics of like aging actresses and shit like that
Speaker 1: Substance is it new?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, oh goo ahead.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, even if you compare her
Speaker 3: to all the other people on them, yes.
Speaker 2: She's about twenty years older, and she's the same meters
Speaker 2: she's the twenty years older, Like if John Kimball had
Speaker 2: been played by Walter Mathow then I could see them
Speaker 2: considering salad Field.
Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, it was just a good choice.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just bad news bears again.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 2: So anyway, eventually they decided against that probably fake list
Speaker 2: of actresses and went with Penelope and Miller, who at
Speaker 2: the time had recently finished working with some of the
Speaker 2: best actress in they of the twentieth century, like Seriously, she.
Speaker 1: Wor Robin Williams, Chuck Norris Forget Well.
Speaker 2: She worked with Marlon Brando in The Freshman, she worked
Speaker 2: with Robert and Nero in Awakenings, and then Pee Herman
Speaker 2: in Big Top Peewee, so like it's just like a solid.
Speaker 1: Dudes, Okay, Big Top Peewee. No, I'm sorry. The first one,
Speaker 1: Peevy's Big Adventure. Yeah, I was recently reading about that
Speaker 1: and where Paul Rubins and Phil Hartman like when they
Speaker 1: came up with a script. They said, they just bought
Speaker 1: Sidfield's book about screenwriting and just followed the formula, like, okay,
Speaker 1: at page thirty, I lose my bike at page sixty
Speaker 1: to get my bike back, Like they just followed the
Speaker 1: beat points and wrote a story for him, Like that's
Speaker 1: brilliant that and it worked perfectly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they must have lost the books for that.
Speaker 2: I like the second one, but for that second one.
Speaker 2: But yeah, she was just the like when I saw
Speaker 2: her in Kindergarten cop Instill, she just Pee's girlfriend that
Speaker 2: loves egg salad sandwiches.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: She sort of mentioned like working with them with these actors,
Speaker 2: we might as Pee Herman, but working with like esteemed
Speaker 2: actors during a two thousand and nine interview she did
Speaker 2: with AV Club, saying quote, I think initially and working
Speaker 2: with Arnold Schwarzenegger. But she said quote I think Initially,
Speaker 2: I kind of thought, am I doing the right thing
Speaker 2: for my career to be in this movie. She's talking
Speaker 2: about Kindergarten Cop obviously, but she continues by saying, I
Speaker 2: had just done theater and had just come off working
Speaker 2: with Robert de Niro in on Awakenings, and I was
Speaker 2: just like Arnold Schwarzenegger. He's like the Barbarian movies and stuff.
Speaker 1: But she then I was reading it and I could
Speaker 1: not put the script.
Speaker 2: But she says, uh, but I think he did a
Speaker 2: really good job in this film. It was funny, but
Speaker 2: it also has it also had suspense, and it was
Speaker 2: just turned.
Speaker 1: Out really well. End quote. But yeah, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, Kindergarten Cop was actually Penelope Anne Miller's fourth film
Speaker 2: that was released in nineteen ninety. Yeah, with the other
Speaker 2: three being Awakenings of Freshmen in Downtown, which never heard
Speaker 2: of that yea me either. It was Anthony, not Anthony
Speaker 2: Michael Hall.
Speaker 1: It's someone that's in Er Edwards. Yeah, Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty basically the same person.
Speaker 1: Was named Goose and yes, Goose and talk.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and now he's also the point guard for the
Speaker 8: Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 1: Also Revenge of the Nerves.
Speaker 2: Yes, never mind anyway, So okay, so moving on, and
Speaker 2: I don't have much for the rest of the cast,
Speaker 2: but Christian Slater was supposedly considered for the role of
Speaker 2: Culling Crew, the Arnold's nemesis.
Speaker 1: I was even say he was one of the careergartens
Speaker 1: that would be great.
Speaker 2: Apparently he turned it down in order to avoid becoming typecast,
Speaker 2: which I kind of called bullshit on this one because
Speaker 2: from the looks of his IMDb at the time, he
Speaker 2: seemed way too busy, Like he appeared in thirteen movies
Speaker 2: within a three year period from ninety nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 2: so he obviously wasn't turning anything down.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't believe that one. Well,
Speaker 1: we talked about I think in the other part we
Speaker 1: talked about the guy who played Colin Chris was three
Speaker 1: o'clock High.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's my uh because I got at this
Speaker 2: point he was getting lazy. But my only note what
Speaker 2: like as far as Richard Tyson was he was in
Speaker 2: three o'clock Eye. He was also in one other movie
Speaker 2: that War O'clockhaye, Yes, which was not which was actually
Speaker 2: a prequel which is weird.
Speaker 1: As far as the uh it's four a M.
Speaker 2: As far as the rest of the list for that role,
Speaker 2: it's kind of all over the place, which it includes
Speaker 2: Kyle McLachlan, Val Kilmer, Robert Danny Jr. Kevin Spacey, and
Speaker 2: then fucking space She's Daniel Stern.
Speaker 1: I don't know. To me the outlier, there's Kevin Spacey.
Speaker 1: What was he doing around that time, because I don't
Speaker 1: see him as being like the hey.
Speaker 2: We need a drug dealer, need to be like like
Speaker 2: right around yes, I mean that was only a couple
Speaker 2: of years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before Usual Suspects?
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, what was he before Usual Suspects? What was
Speaker 3: Glenn Gary Glenn.
Speaker 1: Ross, Glenn Gary Glenn Ross. That was before I don't know.
Speaker 1: I still haven't seen that movie. All you really need
Speaker 1: to see is the Alec Baldwin speech. That's the rest
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, it's fine. I just pulled up Kevin
Speaker 1: Spacey in one of the links is discography. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not clicking on that.
Speaker 3: Gary was ninety two.
Speaker 1: Also, he was in a bunch of stuff like right
Speaker 1: before he blew up. Yeah, Like what I'm saying, it's
Speaker 1: like he wasn't really a big name back then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, compared to all the other names on that list.
Speaker 2: I would have been a weird one to well, I mean,
Speaker 2: was Daniel Stern big at that? I mean yeah, well
Speaker 2: Homelo Alone and all that shit and city slickers and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, Home Alone hadn't come out. Home Alone came
Speaker 1: out around the same at the same time as this.
Speaker 1: I think it came out in ninety.
Speaker 2: No, it came out the same time as like the
Speaker 2: same time as Kindergarten Cop. So, yeah, it was just
Speaker 2: like it hadn't come out before they were when they
Speaker 2: were casting anyway, they yeah, so they eventually hired Richard Tyson.
Speaker 2: Luca said, which three o'clock eye? Is it actually good?
Speaker 1: I haven't seen since I was a kid.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: It's such a fun movie.
Speaker 2: I remember loving it when I was a kid. Uh So,
Speaker 2: Moving on the role of Arnold's partner, Phoebe O'Hara, Catherine
Speaker 2: O'Hara obviously was considered.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 2: Everyone once once they couldn't hire an actress that had
Speaker 2: the same name. They supposedly considered Emma Thompson and then
Speaker 2: Harold Ramis when the role with the role supposedly rewritten
Speaker 2: to being a female character after he declined, and then
Speaker 2: they hired Pamela Ren Do.
Speaker 1: They try to go for the O'Hare airport Kindergarten air
Speaker 1: traffic controller.
Speaker 2: My my favorite one from IMDb is definitely for Eleanor Crisp,
Speaker 2: who was Chris a mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah Crisp anyway.
Speaker 2: Which says they offered the role to Audrey Hepburn, who
Speaker 2: was at the time was basically retired from acting, like
Speaker 2: she had semi retired from acting in nineteen I looked
Speaker 2: it up nineteen sixty seven, only to returning for like
Speaker 2: four roles before she died.
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety three. Some say from regret Or regretted
Speaker 1: passing on this role.
Speaker 2: Hall oh wait no, Wikipedia says it's cancer. Never mind, sorry,
Speaker 2: but yeah, like, what's that?
Speaker 1: The one role that she she was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh man, like on her death when I got away,
Speaker 2: that was like her rose Button moment was Kindergarten cut up.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it was just like, Okay, that one's
Speaker 2: probably not real.
Speaker 1: Instead of Rosebud Dad's saying it's not a tumbe doctors,
Speaker 1: Actually it is.
Speaker 2: Well, she'd only done four movies and one of them
Speaker 2: was by Spill like a Spilberg movie.
Speaker 1: So it's like she's like, I'm gonna do a.
Speaker 2: Spielberg movie, and then after that the next year.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do an arm Schwartzeningger movie.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So, according to this totally real bit of trivia
Speaker 2: from IMDb, b Arthur was also considered because but couldn't
Speaker 2: get away because of Golden Girls.
Speaker 1: Which I don't know it would work, I guess sure.
Speaker 1: And then Laura McCall it seems too comical because the role,
Speaker 1: even though it's a silly movie, that role was like
Speaker 1: kind of like mean and serious. Yeah, it's just kind
Speaker 1: of yeah, yeah, I don't know. Laura McCall, Susan Randon,
Speaker 1: was she old enough at the time. I don't think
Speaker 1: she thinks so.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: And then finally the kids, who I just grouped together
Speaker 2: as one individual because yeah, anyway, So these ones are
Speaker 2: actually all true. But apparently the filmmaker's auditioned more than
Speaker 2: two thousand children to play the thirty kids in Kimball's class.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the nightmare of that cast? Jesus.
Speaker 2: I think he said they did it one hundred kids
Speaker 2: at a time, I think, which sounds like way too many.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what are they Lord of the Flies? I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, put one hundred. I mean, if you put one.
Speaker 2: Hundred in a room and I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: that sounds horrible. Yeah, I was trying to think, like
Speaker 2: what would you have to do just play like you
Speaker 2: have to have them recite the.
Speaker 1: I just guess, well, because all it is is basically.
Speaker 2: Like I'm assuming these weren't I mean maybe they were
Speaker 2: for the like the main kids, But if they weren't
Speaker 2: for the main kids, you're basically just saying how how
Speaker 2: they listen? Right, Like if they can listen?
Speaker 1: Sure, so yes?
Speaker 2: Or follow direction rather but anyway, so uh. Elijah Wood
Speaker 2: has talked about how he auditioned for a role but
Speaker 2: didn't get it because I guess it was the worst
Speaker 2: audition he ever did. He didn't say which part I'm assuming,
Speaker 2: so I'm just gonna assume it was for Zack's dad,
Speaker 2: but he couldn't get it because he couldn't like believably
Speaker 2: take a punch to the stomach.
Speaker 1: Anyway, he'd make a.
Speaker 3: Good loll with his his weird face.
Speaker 2: Anyway, for the role of Dominic. They were originally opened
Speaker 2: a cast like Twins of either gender. Basically, they're just
Speaker 2: looking for twins, right, so they can work them double exactly,
Speaker 2: like because of those stupid child labor laws.
Speaker 1: And it was a bigger role but building for twins
Speaker 1: because Arnold's obsessed ever since his movie Twins, Like we
Speaker 1: got that needs to be a connection, did you guys?
Speaker 2: But okay, So the next things about the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: cast union, like during like a so there was a
Speaker 2: they did a partial cast reunion through Zoom in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: That sounds sad, Yeah, partial reunion.
Speaker 2: And it was just the kids or a few of
Speaker 2: the kids. So you had one of the kids that
Speaker 2: played Dominic, the two girls like the twins, the kid
Speaker 2: that spits out the cheetos on Arnold when it pulls
Speaker 2: them up, and then the little redheaded mister kimbol are
Speaker 2: you all right? And the one that says stranger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that kid?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, so during that Zoom meeting, Tiffany and Crystal Matteris
Speaker 2: who played the two Tune girls whose dad was a
Speaker 2: sex machine, but they that they also like to fuck,
Speaker 2: which was weird because in that interview they kept talking
Speaker 2: about our dad. Loved that line. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, dad, he's actually that suggested it.
Speaker 1: It was just it was a very awkward interview.
Speaker 2: But they revealed that they auditioned for the role of
Speaker 2: Dominic but eventually went to Joseph and Christian Cousins, who
Speaker 2: one of the guys was on there. But so none
Speaker 2: of you watched that, right, that Zoom reunion.
Speaker 1: No, I can't imagine why. No, exactly. That's like that
Speaker 1: seems like when you go to comic Con and there's
Speaker 1: someone who is a star in the seventies sitting alone
Speaker 1: at an autographed booth and just go up and oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do feel bad by walk by. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: go up to him. I'm not gonna be the one.
Speaker 2: You probably could like exchange information and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: depending on how long he's been sitting there with no
Speaker 2: one talking to him.
Speaker 1: The thing is typically, I mean, in my experience, at
Speaker 1: least even though no one's there, they still are trying
Speaker 1: to charge for stuff. So I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: even this got twenty bucks. Maybe you can handle with
Speaker 1: them at that point. It's basically panhandling on a different level.
Speaker 2: I'm doing it out here, I'm doing it outside the
Speaker 2: he's like the convention Center. So I don't know, but
Speaker 2: I ended up watching that Zoom reunion because of this,
Speaker 2: and it's extremely awkward to start. And it starts because
Speaker 2: it starts off with just some of the actors who
Speaker 2: played the kids. As long is it it's about an hour.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was gonna say, if it's more
Speaker 1: than fifteen minutes, it's just well, it's good doing.
Speaker 2: So about thirty five minutes into it, they start getting
Speaker 2: a little more comfortable, and they're all they're doing is
Speaker 2: talking about filming and just like stuff they remember about
Speaker 2: it and some of it, which is stupid because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's interesting, it's probably write that down, and then I didn't,
Speaker 2: but then I'm not going to go back and watch
Speaker 2: it again. So I was like, Okay, well, I guess
Speaker 2: we're not going to mention that, So.
Speaker 1: Just stitch that hour into this pod right here.
Speaker 2: But about thirty five minutes into it, just as they
Speaker 2: start getting more comfortable, the host brings in Arnold Schwarzenegger
Speaker 2: and it just goes right back to awkward because he
Speaker 2: basically takes over the meeting and of course what they
Speaker 2: were talking about before, which I was actually enjoying because
Speaker 2: like they were giving, like they were talking like trivia effects.
Speaker 2: But he takes over the meeting and then like starts
Speaker 2: asking each one of them what they were doing, but
Speaker 2: like just the person and nobody else is talking, and
Speaker 2: then the person will kind of answer, but you can
Speaker 2: tell you can't really hear very well because he's like
Speaker 2: he's basically how i'd imagine having a zoom meeting with
Speaker 2: my grandpa would go like it was it's just weird
Speaker 2: because he's like, and what were you doing? And then
Speaker 2: that person will talk for a second, he's like oh,
Speaker 2: and then one of them does magic. Now he's like
Speaker 2: I love it, Oh okay, goodbye, and then it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: well I guess he's.
Speaker 1: Gone, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Like we should we should do something again.
Speaker 1: Well I don't know. It was entertaining, but awkward anyway.
Speaker 2: Okay, So moving on, the last couple of things that
Speaker 2: I have as far as the casting are just extra
Speaker 2: little tidbits. So the first one, this one is possibly
Speaker 2: intrue IMDb, but originally the principal was going to be
Speaker 2: male and was supposedly they wanted Rick Moranis to play
Speaker 2: the role, but he passed and they switched it to
Speaker 2: female and hired Linda hun which again yeah, next this one,
Speaker 2: actually I was I was able to confirm. But Stephen Root,
Speaker 2: who's probably most what he's like Milton from.
Speaker 1: Office James Radio. Yeah, like, I don't know what else
Speaker 1: is he to? Yeah, very anyway.
Speaker 2: So Stephen Root originally had five scenes that were part
Speaker 2: of a subplot that ended up being cut from the film.
Speaker 2: So do you remember how I mentioned that Kimbera and
Speaker 2: O'Hara never contacted the story of police like that will Yeah, Well,
Speaker 2: Stephen Root's character was credited as sheriff, so I'm assuming
Speaker 2: it had that was like a subplot that was cut.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they actually did, but apparently no one noticed,
Speaker 2: like because I didn't notice until this last time. But anyway,
Speaker 2: the final bit of casting him for I could find.
Speaker 2: So the baseball bat that O'Hara uses on Old Lady
Speaker 2: Crisp was played by a Don Mattingly model Louisville slugger
Speaker 2: who just hit that role out of the park anyway. Sorry, Okay,
Speaker 2: So the film's budget was anywhere between fifteen million, which
Speaker 2: was listed on IMDb and twenty six million, which was
Speaker 2: from the Hollywood Reporter. So let's say twenty two million.
Speaker 1: That's a It's a pretty safe range, though sometimes you
Speaker 1: see like ten million to fifty million.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: Filming lasted from May thirty first to late August nineteen ninety,
Speaker 2: with them starting in a story of Oregon or Oregon
Speaker 2: for the first month, then filming the remainder in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: supposedly in skid Row and Downtown LA, and then the
Speaker 2: mall scenes were shot at South Coast Plaza and Santa Ana. So,
Speaker 2: speaking of the mall scene, according to the AMC story notes,
Speaker 2: apparently that whole scene set there and possibly everything up
Speaker 2: until they had to Astoria. They designed it down, like
Speaker 2: down to the lighting and camera angles to parody the
Speaker 2: look of the terminator, and I think it's up to
Speaker 2: the plane scene. Like the AMC story note thing only
Speaker 2: says it was for the first part of Kindergarten Cops.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure, but I can definitely see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about that. Like you from the open scene,
Speaker 1: you get that vibe. Yeah, he's that same kind of character.
Speaker 1: It's the same kind of yeah, exactly, Like definitely in
Speaker 1: the mall and even like that that that club which
Speaker 1: was just like a chain ling fence around and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is like dystopian futuristic. It's like in the first one.
Speaker 2: Was it called Club Noir or something like that tech
Speaker 2: noir techno? Yeah, anyway, moving on a story. Elementary was
Speaker 2: actually played by John Jacob. Astro Elementary School did a
Speaker 2: pretty good job and with actual students from the school
Speaker 2: playing extras and they were paid thirty five dollars a day,
Speaker 2: which good for them anyway. Fun fact, the school was
Speaker 2: actually used as a model for the school in the
Speaker 2: very first Silent Hill game in nineteen ninety nine, which nice.
Speaker 2: The last couple of things about filming in Astoria. Arnold
Speaker 2: gave a commencement speech tonight the nineteen ninety graduating class
Speaker 2: of Astoria High School.
Speaker 1: But it was very awkward. So you just want to
Speaker 1: graduate a guardia? Okay, what are you doing now?
Speaker 2: Every single person that walked through and then A story
Speaker 2: was actually the first place that Schwarzenegger laid eyes on
Speaker 2: a humby which which I swear to God.
Speaker 1: This is true, changed the course of humans.
Speaker 2: Exactly, which he eventually had a hand in getting GM
Speaker 2: to begin producing them for the general public.
Speaker 1: Right. Wow, yeah, he thought they were so cool. He
Speaker 1: wanted one, like the actual old the military. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, I want one of these. And then people like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, he's driving a humbye and like we should
Speaker 1: market this shit.
Speaker 2: Yes exactly, which, yeah, this is where he's the first
Speaker 2: time he saw one.
Speaker 1: Uh Okay.
Speaker 2: So all the classroom scenes were shot at Universal Studios, Hollywood,
Speaker 2: with the kids constantly climbing all over Arnold whiley when
Speaker 2: they weren't shooting. And I guess which sounds weird, but
Speaker 2: and I guess he would make I guess you would
Speaker 2: make them do jumping decks to try and calm them
Speaker 2: down a bit. He's like, I just incorporated the fitness.
Speaker 2: That's his answer for everything, and he's never wrong about
Speaker 2: it because apparently anyway it works. Yeah, apparently filming those
Speaker 2: scenes with the thirty kids was just super fun, with
Speaker 2: Ivan Wrightman telling the La Times in nineteen ninety quote,
Speaker 2: after the first day of filming, I was in sweat.
Speaker 2: I was in a sweat, my shirt was all wet,
Speaker 2: my voice was hoarse, and I had this really panic
Speaker 2: look in my eyes. So I developed the five Rightman
Speaker 2: rules of filmmaking, which were listen, act, natural, know, your character,
Speaker 2: don't look in the camera, and discipline. I think those
Speaker 2: are just for kids, but he doesn't say that works
Speaker 2: for Arnold too.
Speaker 1: End quote.
Speaker 2: But he then says the Pledge of Allegian scene was
Speaker 2: difficult to shoot due to it being a close up
Speaker 2: dolly shot, as it's like moving down a lot of
Speaker 2: kids and they wouldn't stay still, so to get their
Speaker 2: attention or to keep their attention rightman said he quote,
Speaker 2: He's like, I would walk behind sorry, I would walk
Speaker 2: beside the camera waving something so they would be distracted.
Speaker 2: And I was constantly talking while filming was going on,
Speaker 2: reminding them what their lines were. I kind of became
Speaker 2: a cheerleader, which I just think it's funny. They're like
Speaker 2: babies to where it's like.
Speaker 1: You said when he said he said it was difficult
Speaker 1: to shoot that scene, I first thought, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: because the parents up there are very like I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're like anti government and fascist.
Speaker 2: Say that, yeah exactly, And for some reason, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: not sure why, but he never did another film like
Speaker 2: with kids after this, so because his.
Speaker 1: Five rules didn't work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, Penelope an Miller told People magazine in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty three that she taught Renald Schwartzenegger to kiss on camera,
Speaker 2: which had he not kiss. I was just thinking, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: because Kelly Preston, at least Kelly Preston. So there was
Speaker 2: a quote. It was something like, you gotta you can't
Speaker 2: like make it look like you're swallowing each other. You
Speaker 2: got like I So I kind of told him like
Speaker 2: to like hold me behind my back and bring me
Speaker 2: in slowly and then kiss me or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so just to like, I don't know, maybe he.
Speaker 1: Just like, yeah me compare that to ConA when he
Speaker 1: tried to kiss that camel.
Speaker 2: He missed and it got his fist. Yeah, punched it accidentally.
Speaker 2: He was trying to kiss it, wasn't trying to punch
Speaker 2: it anyway. So as far as the release, Cone or Sorry,
Speaker 2: Kindergarten Cop was released domestically on December twenty first, nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety probably making eleven point two million on its opening weekend,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. Box Office Mojo has it listed
Speaker 2: at seven point nine million, but Kindergarten Cop is the
Speaker 2: only movie they have listed that weekend, So unless every
Speaker 2: theater was like fuck it, Kindergarten Cops coming out. We're
Speaker 2: closing down and we're only playing that Like that's those
Speaker 2: numbers aren't right, So we're going with the other one.
Speaker 2: Eleven point two million debuted at in the number two spot.
Speaker 2: It's opening weekend with Home Alone taking that number one spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, Home.
Speaker 2: Alone had already been out for six weeks at this point,
Speaker 2: it was still the number one movie.
Speaker 3: So yeah, God, that movie is a fucking.
Speaker 2: I didn't actually look how long it was it like
Speaker 2: stayed in the number one spot, but I'm assuming it
Speaker 2: had to be through Christmas because this is what I say.
Speaker 1: This was December.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that was through Christmas first Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because yeah, it was a Christmas movie too. So uh. Anyway,
Speaker 2: as far as the rest of the weekend's box office
Speaker 2: top ten, it's.
Speaker 1: A pretty it's actually a pretty good list for the
Speaker 1: most part.
Speaker 2: Like you had Edward scissor Hands at number three with
Speaker 2: six million. Number four was Dances with Wolves with five
Speaker 2: point nine million. This was also usually December's around the
Speaker 2: time they release Oscar Contenders too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of Awards movies, yeah, which.
Speaker 2: Is what our next one was probably that's probably why
Speaker 2: it was released, which was look Who's talking to with five.
Speaker 1: Point eight million.
Speaker 3: Yep, strong contender.
Speaker 2: Number six was The Russian House, The Russia House, sorry,
Speaker 2: with four point four million, which I've never heard of before.
Speaker 2: I remember that, but was also it was released the
Speaker 2: same week and it starts Sean Connery.
Speaker 1: And Michelle Talker. Yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 2: It says it was about a British publisher sent is
Speaker 2: sent a manuscript detailing Soviet and it basically the Hunt
Speaker 2: for October two. It sounds like, yeah, Soviet and.
Speaker 1: Nuclear missile capabilities. Anyway.
Speaker 2: Number seven, which was also released that week, was supposedly
Speaker 2: really bad, which was The Bonfire of the Vanities.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch that. Oh yeah, that was a mess,
Speaker 1: just production wise. I never saw it, but I just
Speaker 1: from hearing all the stories about what a nightmare was
Speaker 1: to make that movie? Was right?
Speaker 4: Was that?
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, Bruce Willis and Tom Hanks, Melanie Griffith.
Speaker 2: Griffith, Yeah, that made four point two million, and I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure ended up bombing too. But number eight was
Speaker 2: Misery with four point one million, which is a good movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was on its fourth week, but see that's where
Speaker 2: it like sounds right. Number eight fourth week I mean
Speaker 2: right ish, But anyway, So number nine was Three Men
Speaker 2: and a Little Lady, which made three point five million,
Speaker 2: and I definitely remember being bored while watching that in
Speaker 2: the theater, Like I know, I went and watch that one,
Speaker 2: which what if horrible?
Speaker 1: Like this movie sucks. I was gonna see look Who's
Speaker 1: Talking too?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that movie. That's that's I mean, it's again.
Speaker 2: I'd probably have to watch Three Men in a Little
Speaker 2: Lady again. I'm like, it probably might. It might be
Speaker 2: like I'm like, this movie is so good, but as
Speaker 2: of right now, look Who's Talking? Two is definitely better.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Number ten was Mermaids, which made three point three million,
Speaker 2: and yeah, share Window and a writer in Christina Reachigency,
Speaker 2: I only saw. I haven't seen a lot of those ones,
Speaker 2: but it was a good list.
Speaker 1: I think. Was that one an Oscar one solid or no,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, I don't remember. I probably
Speaker 1: should have looked that up. I don't think I've seen
Speaker 1: most of those.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I've only seen I've seen Luk Who's talking,
Speaker 2: Dancing with Wolves and Misery and then the first two. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 2: as we mentioned during the summery Kindergarten Cop had a
Speaker 2: fifty two percent critic rating on Rotten Tomatoes, with most
Speaker 2: of the critics that gave it a better view like
Speaker 2: The Reason for It, where they decided the violence basically
Speaker 2: as a reason why, but.
Speaker 1: Mostly didn't like I'm punching that abusive dad. Yeah what,
Speaker 1: Mostly he's just trying to keep his family in line.
Speaker 1: That was actually one of the reviews.
Speaker 2: His last review too, anyway, But yeah, it was mostly
Speaker 2: because it was heavily promoted as a family film, and
Speaker 2: they were like, what the this is not really a
Speaker 2: family film? Got and their prudes apparently, but Roger Eiber
Speaker 2: gave it three out of four stars, and it's really
Speaker 2: the only one that matters, isn't it. Like Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: Gene Sisko didn't like it, but he'd be dead soon,
Speaker 2: so what doesn't matter. Sorry, I'm not the cut up
Speaker 2: what I said, And we can leave with due sit there.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: Kindergarten Cop ended up making ninety one point five million
Speaker 2: domestically and then two hundred and two million worldwide, and
Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety's ten tighest grossing movie worldwide, which just
Speaker 2: like must have eaten up Riven Wrightman just like, oh
Speaker 2: ten kidding me, And I'm pretty sure it only got
Speaker 2: like worse from there as far as his top ten,
Speaker 2: so he shouldn't relish that anyway. This comes from IMDb,
Speaker 2: so but it sounds like true.
Speaker 1: Include anyway.
Speaker 2: When the release date was announced in for December nineteen ninety,
Speaker 2: Universal Pictures as well as Arnold Schwarzeneer and Ivan Wrightman
Speaker 2: were unaware that Home Alone was supposed to be released
Speaker 2: at the same time. So it says while Home Alone
Speaker 2: continued to stay on top, which is bullshit because it
Speaker 2: had been out for six weeks at the time.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was about to say, they probably just
Speaker 3: didn't know it was gonna be that, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, while Home Alone would continue to stay
Speaker 2: at the top, Schwarzenegger started like pushing.
Speaker 1: I thought it would hurt, call it talking around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're better than me. Mar Here.
Speaker 2: He started pushing for a Universal had tried to delay
Speaker 2: the movie to spring of nineteen ninety one, supposedly because
Speaker 2: he didn't want to compete with it, but they said no. Apparently,
Speaker 2: Schwarzenegger said that he felt that it unperformed compared to
Speaker 2: Twins due to the competition from Home Alone, which could
Speaker 2: be true.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway.
Speaker 2: Maybe either way, Like, I'm sure Home Alone didn't help.
Speaker 2: It didn't help that Home Alone was released this because
Speaker 2: obviously it would have been in a number one movie.
Speaker 2: But Schwarzinger did end up saying years later that the
Speaker 2: film could have grossed an extra twenty five million, which
Speaker 2: is very specific, by the way, Yeah, like if.
Speaker 1: It was less violent, It's just like, why do why
Speaker 1: twenty five million? Half? Where'd you come up with that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's calculated the price of every.
Speaker 2: But I even Wrighten encountered by saying that he felt
Speaker 2: the violence quote had to be there, the film would
Speaker 2: just peter out at the end.
Speaker 1: I ryme, was like, we needed more violent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she wouldn't have a fight club between the kids.
Speaker 2: Studio wouldn't let him.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: By the way, they did end up making a Kindergarten
Speaker 2: Cop two, which I guess.
Speaker 1: Was they I guess Universal, which.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a studio.
Speaker 2: It was actually considered a remaking, not a sequel though,
Speaker 2: because it.
Speaker 1: Was Dominant's people. He's like, you know what, let's do
Speaker 1: this again.
Speaker 2: Which wouldn't surprise me because I don't know what those
Speaker 2: kids are doing. But By the way, I lied when
Speaker 2: I said Kindergarten Cop was the only credit from a
Speaker 2: Screenwtder Murray Salem because he also has Kindergarten Cop two
Speaker 2: on there, so he's got two credits. But yeah, that
Speaker 2: it starts Dolph Lungern and I think Bill Bellamy, I think,
Speaker 2: but I'm not positive. Anyway, that sounds awesome. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: we're gonna end.
Speaker 1: Up doing it eventually.
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty seventeen or nineteen or something
Speaker 2: like that that recent Yeah, it was real way, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Jesus, So is Dolph I don't know. I guess we'll
Speaker 3: do it eventually. But is Dolph Lundgren the teacher?
Speaker 1: Well, he's the cop, the cops last teacher. Let's see
Speaker 1: it came out in twenty sixteen. He got twenty sixteen, shocking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that means like twenty years we'll get like Kindergarten Cop
Speaker 1: three excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, starring someone I can't think anyone. Okay, So anyway,
Speaker 2: apparently Arnold also won a Nickelodeon Kid's Choice Award for
Speaker 2: Favorite Movie Actor for this movie. So for the role, yeah,
Speaker 2: which I should have looked up. Who he was going
Speaker 2: up against is nineteen ninety No it would have been
Speaker 2: ninety one because this came out dece I don't know
Speaker 2: how those awards work.
Speaker 3: It would have had to be for this thing came
Speaker 3: out come out.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like ninety two or something.
Speaker 3: Was it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know anyway, anyway, I'll get you guys talking,
Speaker 2: then look it up. The second thing was that basically Okay,
Speaker 2: so he did the show with what stan Lee called
Speaker 2: Superhero Kindergarten.
Speaker 3: A superhero kindergarten, yes.
Speaker 1: Which I don't think is what it's called that. It's
Speaker 1: a Netflix show.
Speaker 3: Oh I don't think it was called that, but I
Speaker 3: could be wrong.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, stan Lee's a superhero Kindergarten.
Speaker 3: That is a bad name for that.
Speaker 2: All right, so he did he did that show came
Speaker 2: from desire to do a sequel to this kindergarten cop Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: so is.
Speaker 3: He actually in it?
Speaker 1: Yes? I look.
Speaker 2: I took a quick look at the IMBB credits, which
Speaker 2: I'm assuming we'll get to it eventually. Maybe sure, it'll
Speaker 2: just be like a there's got to be like an
Speaker 2: episode that's where it's just like all the extra crap.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I don't mean crap but except I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's a nice show. Anyway, Yes, he's in every episode.
Speaker 2: I believe he plays like the teacher I would assume.
Speaker 2: But okay, anyway, okay, so let's move on to the
Speaker 2: clips promo stuff. So pretty much any clips I could
Speaker 2: find to promote Kindergarten Cop we're kind of eh.
Speaker 1: They were fine.
Speaker 2: There was kind of born like just regular interview clips,
Speaker 2: but I was able to find one from the same year,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna watch that, and then I have two
Speaker 2: more that are from random years, but they all feed Arnold.
Speaker 1: This time. There was in our Sittingill Hall.
Speaker 2: One that I found that was like disappointing. He was
Speaker 2: just playing it very straight, like he's usually like kind
Speaker 2: of jokey, like Yeah. There's one Perterminator two as well,
Speaker 2: which I was like, oh, like I've been looking forward
Speaker 2: to watching it because I was like, all right, or
Speaker 2: sending you Hall. But yeah, anyway, okay, So this first
Speaker 2: one is from a nineteen ninety interview Rinold did with
Speaker 2: Lisa Gibbons from for Entertainment Tonight, and it's to promote
Speaker 2: the Tales from the.
Speaker 1: Crypt episode that he directed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they eventually end up talking about his newmorn daughter Katherine,
Speaker 2: and how he likes being a dad.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's take a look at that.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 6: On top of his directing debut, Schwarzenegger recently made his
Speaker 6: debut as a daddy, seeing here leaving the hospital with
Speaker 6: wife Maria Schreiver and baby Catherine, now nine weeks old.
Speaker 6: It's the most exciting thing that has ever happened to me,
Speaker 6: is having this new little baby and being a girl.
Speaker 1: On top of it.
Speaker 6: You know how he spoiled little girls, and so I
Speaker 6: have such a wonderful time playing with it every morning
Speaker 6: when I get up and I'm home at night, you know,
Speaker 6: the hangout isn't sitting there in my arms since just
Speaker 6: watching it. It's just really absolutely fantastic. But the most
Speaker 6: admirable thing of all is obviously the woman about this
Speaker 6: whole thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I absolutely love love when
Speaker 2: people who aren't used to being around babies refer to
Speaker 2: them as it.
Speaker 4: Mean.
Speaker 2: They usually don't realize they're doing it. It just makes me
Speaker 2: laugh every single time, like you know, you're calling the
Speaker 2: baby it right, Like yeah, it's just always funny to me,
Speaker 2: And you.
Speaker 3: Know, anybody could do it once by accident, but he
Speaker 3: did it like four times in a row there, so
Speaker 3: clearly that's like how he thinks.
Speaker 2: Of it, and he did it in the Arsenion one too,
Speaker 2: but it's just I don't know which I get because
Speaker 2: is a new new dad, not used to being around kids,
Speaker 2: but it's sure, it's just always funny to me anyway. Okay,
Speaker 2: So this next one is a twenty thirteen interview that
Speaker 2: Arnold did with The Sun, which I believe is the
Speaker 2: kind of like the UK version of TMZ I think,
Speaker 2: but I could be wrong on that.
Speaker 3: I think they're like mostly a tabloid.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's for a new web series from the Sun
Speaker 2: called Bizarre Live web Chat, and it's not the whole video,
Speaker 2: so I'm not exactly sure who's interviewing him, but he's
Speaker 2: there promoting The Last Stand and there are two parts
Speaker 2: I wanted to show you guys. So the first one
Speaker 2: is him talking about which movie he regrets not taking,
Speaker 2: So yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 9: There are great Hollywood stories about people like Tom Sealey
Speaker 9: turning down the chance to be Indiana Jones. Is there
Speaker 9: one film that you really regret or one part you
Speaker 9: regret turning down from King Kuna?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that Jerry Bruckheimer came to me with
Speaker 4: the script for The Rock that the John Connery ended
Speaker 4: up doing and Nicholas Cage, and I was offered the
Speaker 4: Nicholas Cage pot. But there was like eighty pages and
Speaker 4: with scribbles and handwritten stuff over this is shit and
Speaker 4: that's not to do this page and let's rewrite this.
Speaker 4: I looked at this thing as I was in a
Speaker 4: little of filming, and I looked at this script and
Speaker 4: I said, what that? Because I can't commit to that.
Speaker 4: I said, why didn't you get the act together and
Speaker 4: come back with a good script. Well, in the meantime,
Speaker 4: they did get the act together and then they hired
Speaker 4: the you know a Nigga's Cage, and I really loved
Speaker 4: that movie. I thought it turned out fantastic. And by
Speaker 4: the way, Niggas Cage did an extraordinary job. So I
Speaker 4: don't know if I would have been able to do
Speaker 4: as good a job as he did. But I mean,
Speaker 4: I was mad that I turned down the draw because
Speaker 4: it was really a great role. So those things happened.
Speaker 4: But in the meantime there's also other situations where I
Speaker 4: fought for a script and you know, to get away
Speaker 4: from someone else right, and it ended up being a
Speaker 4: great script. So he said, yeah, it's both ways. Like
Speaker 4: I said, there's really no science behind it.
Speaker 2: Okay, first off, I that movie would have been like
Speaker 2: accent horrific if he would have played that part that
Speaker 2: was going.
Speaker 3: To I can't believe it was for the Nick Cage,
Speaker 3: but like, I know, he's not as old as Sean Connery.
Speaker 2: But exactly the character.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the character like that just sets.
Speaker 2: So that's exactly my next note, which is like Nicholas
Speaker 2: Cage's character was like the more he's like mild mannered, practical,
Speaker 2: like some not submissive but like uh like that, well.
Speaker 3: He's like subdue, yes, neurotic though, yeah, in that, which
Speaker 3: Arnold doesn't really do.
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming you would have had to be rewritten
Speaker 2: if Arnold signed on to it, because Sean Connery's character
Speaker 2: was the Schwartz, the neigarian character.
Speaker 3: Of exactly like I would expect him to be playing
Speaker 3: the former foreign spy who broke out of alcol who
Speaker 3: was like the one man who broke out of Alcatraz.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just feel like he fits that
Speaker 3: role way better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you also can't really have all the leads
Speaker 2: in the movie playing the same character, so he like
Speaker 2: he would have had to play a different character otherwise
Speaker 2: you just end.
Speaker 1: Up with sabotage, which yeah, saw that.
Speaker 2: One, and then like the other thing was is The
Speaker 2: Rock also came out in nineteen ninety six, like two
Speaker 2: weeks before E Racer, So there's like some alternate universe
Speaker 2: where Arnold's stars in The Rock with Sean Connery. But
Speaker 2: then that misses everything up because then like does a
Speaker 2: racistar Nicholas Cage or does he end up doing Daylight
Speaker 2: and Sylvester Saloon signs on to do a racer? Because
Speaker 2: who else was there John Clauwe Van Dam, Stephen Segall.
Speaker 2: Neither of those Jebbronis had the chops to handle a
Speaker 2: racers like big old fat ass. You know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: like I was just thinking about that because I was like, sorry,
Speaker 2: I ended up looking up what they were doing. All
Speaker 2: those actress were no, not not cigall like Vandam. They
Speaker 2: weren't going to get those parts. Yeah, definitely not so yeah,
Speaker 2: definitely not the well, yeah, because he doesn't have a
Speaker 2: sense of humor, it seems like. But Van Dam was
Speaker 2: actually apparently huge at this time because This was like
Speaker 2: when he was on Friends, So I'm assuming that's when
Speaker 2: he was huge.
Speaker 3: That's your that's your metric. Yeah, that's that is Yeah
Speaker 3: makes sense because that was also like who else was there?
Speaker 2: It was like Bruce Willis who was doing nothing. I
Speaker 2: think he did a He did a movie where he's
Speaker 2: wearing a fedora.
Speaker 8: You need twelve Monkeys coming around?
Speaker 2: That was his next movie. I think after this Hudson.
Speaker 3: I thought Hudson Hawk was earlier. I thought that was
Speaker 3: like early nineties.
Speaker 1: No, Hudson.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's like Last Man Standing or something like that.
Speaker 2: He was on that show. I don't know what it
Speaker 2: was that John Belushie.
Speaker 3: No, that's that's the Tim Allen show.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah Tim Allen, No, sorry, he was. He was
Speaker 2: doing a movie called Last Man Standing where he's weren
Speaker 2: a fedora doora in the the poster. But yeah, Stallone
Speaker 2: was doing like Daylight, which I like. But is I
Speaker 2: don't know, more just a flood. Yeah it's a flood movie.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, because who could have who could have done
Speaker 1: a racer? Anybody? I guess did you guys have received
Speaker 1: Twelve Monkeys?
Speaker 3: I still haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: I did once but I was really high. I don't remember.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's really good.
Speaker 3: Really, I've heard nothing but things about it, but I've
Speaker 3: never watched.
Speaker 1: I love that movie.
Speaker 2: You don't direct se is that like Terry Gilliam or
Speaker 2: oh yeah so it's weird? Yeah yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that was the movie he did after this was between
Speaker 2: because wait, Paul fiction was like ninety four, wasn't it
Speaker 2: ninety four?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, but there was a little gap where he did
Speaker 2: a like some show called it was like a cartoon
Speaker 2: called Brute because you know, like his his like Bruno
Speaker 2: was like his like character that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it, that's his like music persona.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he'd like little Bruno. That was a
Speaker 2: cartoon that he did around that time. So I just thought, like, oh,
Speaker 2: a little Bruno anyway, okay, sorry, oh yeah. The second
Speaker 2: thing I wanted to show you guys from this interview
Speaker 2: is just Arnold talking about an unusual encounter with the fan.
Speaker 1: So yeah, go ahead, Okay, where's the.
Speaker 9: Most unusual place you've had one of your catchphrases repeated
Speaker 9: to you?
Speaker 4: Uh in really weird places. I mean I was sitting
Speaker 4: one of them in the toilet. And let's start to us,
Speaker 4: I said, next door, I heard the loud thought, I
Speaker 4: heard the toilet flashing, and then someone spitting, and then
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I'll be back to open up
Speaker 4: that big is in toilet. It's a really weird places,
Speaker 4: but it's really interesting those lines, because you don't know
Speaker 4: when you do the movie.
Speaker 2: You can, yeah, puse it there if you want, because
Speaker 2: we've heard he's that's what he said during the during
Speaker 2: the like we did the other one press cover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. That's just sound like a shitty situation, stupid,
Speaker 1: That's that's.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm like, just go first thought, best thought, and it
Speaker 2: was not the best thought anyway, Okay, and then this
Speaker 2: last one we were.
Speaker 3: Just kept getting better though.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: This, this last one is from the year two thousand,
Speaker 2: with Arnold appearing. By the way, every time I say that,
Speaker 2: because this is writing it down, all I could think
Speaker 2: of was the coner Brian. Yeah, because that's how I
Speaker 2: heard it in my head all the time whenever. This
Speaker 2: is the year two thousand, anyway, So with Arnold appearing
Speaker 2: on the view to promote the sixth Day, and this
Speaker 2: is Barbara Walters asking him how things around the house
Speaker 2: due to the upcoming two thousand presidential election.
Speaker 7: Right, you probably get to the cloning business and without
Speaker 7: you know, without talking about candidates and presidents.
Speaker 1: I just want to know.
Speaker 2: What it is like, what is like to use these
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks when you and Maria are diametrically
Speaker 2: opposed in who you are or wherefore?
Speaker 6: Well, it's one of these odd things, you know.
Speaker 4: Venever, the GOA was ahead with the in the polls.
Speaker 1: Maria was the nicest woman in the house. Oh honey, darling,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: Maybe the next four years something better will happen and
Speaker 4: you're still wonderful, Honold, you're the greatest as soon as.
Speaker 1: Push as the head in the polls.
Speaker 6: So she started locking the bedroom door.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 9: How you feel your life might be better?
Speaker 6: If Gore is it up with you?
Speaker 1: It's tough.
Speaker 4: The other day I said that Maria has let's make love,
Speaker 4: and she says, okay, cover me up.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: Fucking Rodney Dangerfield.
Speaker 2: Seriously, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They're an old dangers.
Speaker 2: They're just like some interviews where he's on fire, like
Speaker 2: with the stories and jokes. It's great because it has
Speaker 2: like a similar vibe to like a live comedy show
Speaker 2: and a comics killing and the crowd is just like
Speaker 2: hanging on every word. But I don't know, he's definitely
Speaker 2: knew well with that one. But yeah, that is the
Speaker 2: last one I have for this, so it all right.
Speaker 3: That's gonna wrap it up for our production episodes. Thank
Speaker 3: you very much Dave for being on our episode again.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you last.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and uh, I guess there's really only one
Speaker 3: thing left to say.
Speaker 1: I'll be back.
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