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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Fred of thes are, hello, and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jacob, and today we are getting a little cryptic, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>is that's what's we're getting. We're getting a little monster.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in some regards, you might call it a monster

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<v Speaker 3>or a cryptid. Some would call it, understandably, an alien

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<v Speaker 3>or an extraterrestrial or an et or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>These things you want to find, put it to whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't they all that? Possibly? Possibly?

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<v Speaker 3>So, so all the good cult members that listen to

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<v Speaker 3>our interdimensional conversation that we had the other day understand

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<v Speaker 3>that this was what I was actually trying to find

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<v Speaker 3>and look into when I discovered the Book of flat Land,

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<v Speaker 3>which led to the two D versus three D versus

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<v Speaker 3>four D conversation. Right, I was doing research onto a

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<v Speaker 3>alien sighting or monster siting whatever in West by God,

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<v Speaker 3>Virginia in the fifties, and somehow we ended up into

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<v Speaker 3>all of the other common which was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed that talk for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, so this episode we are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>diving into the flatlands, monster, flatlands, alien, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 3>to call it. And here's the deal. Everyone understands that

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<v Speaker 3>this is a true story. There is nobody who's questioning

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<v Speaker 3>its validity. There are some that's kep, you know, questioning

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<v Speaker 3>if the people saw what they think they saw, but

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<v Speaker 3>nobody denies that this group of people saw something in

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<v Speaker 3>the woods on this night in the fifties.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready to get into it? I am ready, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, do we know what part of West Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>this is coming out of?

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<v Speaker 3>I got articles, I got videos, I got all the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff pulled up. And for anybody who would like to

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<v Speaker 3>see these videos rather than just hear us talk about them, Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 3>tell them where they.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely all right, All right, now we've got the plug

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<v Speaker 2>This little, this little quick tutorial here.

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<v Speaker 3>So History Channel actually did this series, the Project blue Book,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll talk about what that is here in a

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<v Speaker 3>moment for anybody who might be a newer listener or

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<v Speaker 3>newer to the conspiracy game and they don't really know

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<v Speaker 3>all of the Project dot dot dots like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>got you, So we're gonna cover a good bit of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the Flatwoods Monster's just a little quick

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<v Speaker 3>two minute video, but it does a decent job of

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<v Speaker 3>breaking down the uh, the overarching story here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's uh, let's learn a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>The Flatwoods Monster case. This occurred on September twelfth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>fifty two. This whole thing happened at dusk and there

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<v Speaker 4>were a number of young people going off into the

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<v Speaker 4>woods and saw some kind of fiery, glowing object that

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<v Speaker 4>descended or came down to the boys. Ed and Freddie

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<v Speaker 4>grabbed their mother, whose name was Kathleen May, and she

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<v Speaker 4>came back with the group to see this thing what

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<v Speaker 4>they describe as a creature, very tall. It's got eyes

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<v Speaker 4>that are glowing red and it scares them.

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<v Speaker 2>Project blue Book still in the early years, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was reported to the Air Force because there was something

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<v Speaker 2>in the sky.

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<v Speaker 4>Investigators who went there after the sighting stated that there

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<v Speaker 4>was an unusual smell or odor in that area, and

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<v Speaker 4>singed at the top. There were investigators who said that

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<v Speaker 4>branches actually were broken. Now that's very interesting. The branches

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<v Speaker 4>were broken by something that evidently came down. This is

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<v Speaker 4>one of the instances in which Project Blue Book was

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<v Speaker 4>genuinely actively doing serious investigations at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>I do we call seeing the May family sketches. They

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<v Speaker 2>weren't extremely detailed, but they were similar. The family members

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<v Speaker 2>all do the same thing, which was interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>The official explanation was that it was a combination of

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<v Speaker 4>a bright media and delusion psychological case.

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<v Speaker 2>Most puzzling case. My father thought about that a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really couldn't conclude anything one way or the

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<v Speaker 2>other one. Okay, So I hate whenever they just I

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<v Speaker 2>hate whenever they just say that these things the people

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<v Speaker 2>that are seeing these things are just delusional like that

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<v Speaker 2>is Oh, that's cringey whenever you hear shit like that,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like that, you're you're trying to go out

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<v Speaker 2>on a limb and tell somebody that you saw something,

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of alien, some kind of craft, some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of monster, whatever the fuck, And whenever somebody just gaslights

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<v Speaker 2>you and says that you're just illusional, Oh dude, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>chaps me more than that.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've heard that old adage of oh, as a

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<v Speaker 3>meteor that passed through some swamp gas, right, and I

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<v Speaker 3>gave the illusion that you saw something you didn't see.

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<v Speaker 3>Project Blue Book is where that story got traction and

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<v Speaker 3>why that thing got set so many times. It was

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<v Speaker 3>moonlight refracting off of Venus through some swamp gas, either

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<v Speaker 3>swamp gas in West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, okay, fine, sure, let's let's go down that

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<v Speaker 2>little rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're gonna read a couple of different articles and

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of different stories about what the quote unquote officials,

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<v Speaker 3>and I use that term very liberally say the people

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<v Speaker 3>may have seen the going narrative. The main theory is

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<v Speaker 2>Was an owl. Now, I'm gonna those always supersede something though,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you always hear about the owls coming before. It's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like the owls are the siren for something to

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<v Speaker 3>But the the monster itself was supposed to be somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>around eight foot tall. They are saying that an owl

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<v Speaker 3>with its wings up like this created a shadow and

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<v Speaker 3>that's what did this Moloch. After they just watched something

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<v Speaker 3>fall from the sky crash land in the woods. You

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<v Speaker 3>can smell burnt metal everywhere, and we got an owl

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<v Speaker 3>and these people just completely mistook that for an eight

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<v Speaker 2>Are we talking about Moloch over here? Dude? I you

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<v Speaker 2>know what you can tell me when we get there.

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<v Speaker 3>You saw some of the images earlier, right, some of

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<v Speaker 3>the drawings that the family made, and we're gonna show

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more of them. And to this day, the

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<v Speaker 3>flat flat lands West Virginia, like the town is made

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<v Speaker 3>after this monster. They have paintings of it everywhere and

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<v Speaker 3>shit like the people really leaned into it, which you

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<v Speaker 3>know what they should. But anyway, anyway, before we get

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<v Speaker 3>into all of that, so Project blue Book, what exactly

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<v Speaker 3>is this? Because they did in fact launch a real

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<v Speaker 3>investigation into this. They sent agents out, they took samples,

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<v Speaker 3>they did all these things. So real quick, let's just

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<v Speaker 3>read the first little couple sentences here.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Project blue Book was the code name for

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<v Speaker 2>the Systematic Study of Unidentified Flying Objects by the United

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<v Speaker 2>States Air Force from March nineteen fifty two to its

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<v Speaker 2>termination allegedly on December seventeenth, nineteen sixty nine. The project,

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<v Speaker 2>headquartered at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, was initially

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<v Speaker 2>directed by Captain Edward J. Rupplett or Rupoult. Rupoult there

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<v Speaker 2>we go, Rupolt, I don't know, and followed projects of

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<v Speaker 2>a similar nature, such as Projects sign established in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven, Project sign we got to look at to

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<v Speaker 2>that one, and Project Grudge in nineteen forty nine. Project

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<v Speaker 2>blue Book had two goals, namely, to determine if UFOs

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<v Speaker 2>were a threat to national security and to scientifically analyze

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<v Speaker 2>UFO related data. Thousands of UFO reports were collected, analyzed,

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<v Speaker 2>and filed as a result of the Condon Report, which

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<v Speaker 2>by the National Academy of Sciences, Project Blue Book was

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<v Speaker 2>terminated in sixty nine. The Air Force supplies the following

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<v Speaker 2>summary of its investigations. So number one, no UFO reported

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<v Speaker 2>investigated and evaluated by the Air Force was ever an

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<v Speaker 2>indication of threat to our national security. They always say

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<v Speaker 2>that they are always so comfortable, same thing with shit Roswell.

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<v Speaker 2>They thought the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, it's also interesting they said that the UFOs that

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<v Speaker 3>were reported, investigated and evaluated, So that would signify that

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<v Speaker 3>there were, in fact UFOs that were reported, investigated and evaluated,

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<v Speaker 3>not just stories and tall tales.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir number two, there was no evidence submitted to

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<v Speaker 2>or discovered by the Air Force that sightings categorized as

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<v Speaker 2>unidentified represented technological developments or principles beyond the range of

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<v Speaker 2>modern scientific knowledge.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, they also used quote unquote unidentified, So could that

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<v Speaker 3>also mean that they knew what these things were? Because

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps the powers that be have known about extraterrestrials and

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<v Speaker 3>alien life for years and years and years. So to

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<v Speaker 3>the public it might be unidentified, but to them they

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<v Speaker 3>know them as the gorgons or so, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Yeah, they could the quotes like that, it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a potentially misleading.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whatever they were seeing was either already understood or

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<v Speaker 2>there was nothing they could do with the information that

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<v Speaker 2>they had to be able to apply it to whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they needed to apply it to. It could be I

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<v Speaker 2>think that it's probably one of the other of those.

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<v Speaker 2>But and number go ahead, it could be both, could

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<v Speaker 2>be both. Yeah, number three, there was no evidence indicating

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<v Speaker 2>that sightings categorized as unidentified were extraterrestrial vehicles. Again, those

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<v Speaker 2>quotes on unidentified.

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<v Speaker 3>So while your average layperson might just be plowing their

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<v Speaker 3>fields or just sitting on their back porch one night

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<v Speaker 3>and they would see a craft that they've never seen before,

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<v Speaker 3>when the government agents get there, no, they have seen

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of craft before. So it's not unidentified to

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<v Speaker 3>the official story, it's unidentified to the random person.

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<v Speaker 2>You see what I mean here? Now to your point.

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<v Speaker 3>Project and also, real quick, before we even check out

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<v Speaker 3>Project sign, I don't want to detract from the monster

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<v Speaker 3>or anything, but they shut down the project in sixty nine. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>real quick, does anybody remember some big thing that happened

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen sixty nine, as far as space is concerned,

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<v Speaker 3>that would potentially be how they would wrap up everything

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<v Speaker 3>with a pretty little bow to say that boom, we

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<v Speaker 3>did it. There's no need to explore any further.

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<v Speaker 2>We accomplished it was it. Are you talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>fake moon landing? Sir? I am indeed right, yeah, so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>They shut down the UFO Investigation Bureau basically the same

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<v Speaker 3>year that we put a man on the moon allegedly.

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<v Speaker 3>So is that also their way that they were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to tie up all these quote unquote loosens because they

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<v Speaker 3>with Roswell to sixty nine. They just were like, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>Pop bop bop.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Trump comes into office and is like, by

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<v Speaker 2>Something to it, dude. There absolutely has to be And

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<v Speaker 2>that's why, dude, this is the thing with aliens, extraterrestrials, orbs, UFOs,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it, anything that is otherworldly seemingly it always

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<v Speaker 2>do believe, they do believe, but they assigned the meaning

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<v Speaker 2>to it before they ever come in contact with it. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>and then people who actually do come in contact with,

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<v Speaker 2>or allegedly come in contact with extraterrestrials or UFOs, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if a lot of what we hear about

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<v Speaker 2>that the government And I'm not trying to discredit UFOs.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in them, but who's to say that the

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<v Speaker 2>government wouldn't be trying to push some kind of UFO narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>And then whenever the alleged UFOs come down and destroy

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<v Speaker 2>a state, a city, a person, you know, a country,

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<v Speaker 2>the world or whatever, they would have somebody to blame

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<v Speaker 2>it on. But really it's some kind of technology that

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<v Speaker 2>they've been working on in secret for forever, so nobody

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<v Speaker 2>wants to place nobody can place blame on them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And that is kind of you know, that's what people

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<v Speaker 2>talk about with Project Bluebeam, that they say that it's

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<v Speaker 2>just going to be man made and it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>deceive a lot of people bull and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of fuckery, and it's it's not

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<v Speaker 2>some hair brain theory that that is something like people

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<v Speaker 2>have been saying that that the that the government is

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<v Speaker 2>for hundreds of at least one hundred years. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't agree more So.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Project sign is apparently the very first iteration.

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<v Speaker 2>Of something close to this. So let's read about it

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, all right. Projects Sign or Project Saucer,

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<v Speaker 2>was an official US government study of unidentified flying objects

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<v Speaker 2>undertaken by the United States Air Force and active for

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<v Speaker 2>most of nineteen forty eight. It was the precursor to

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<v Speaker 2>Project Grudge So. The project was established in nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight by Air Force General Nathan Twining ahead of the

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<v Speaker 2>Air Technical Service Command, and was initially named Project Saucer.

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<v Speaker 2>The goal of the project was to collect, evaluate, and

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<v Speaker 2>distribute within the government all information relating to UFO sightings

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<v Speaker 2>or the premise that they might represent a national security concern.

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<v Speaker 2>On April twenty seventh, nineteen forty nine, the US Air

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<v Speaker 2>Force publicly released a paper prepared by the Intelligence Division

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<v Speaker 2>of the Air Material Command at Wright Patterson Field in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>The paper stated that while some UFOs appeared to represent

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<v Speaker 2>Almost all cases were explained by ordinary causes, but the

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<v Speaker 2>report recommended a continuation of the investigation of all sightings.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you want to get into a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to talk about some Project Grudge real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>But before I do, let's also talk about this nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>forty eight, the US Air Force has this whole Air

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<v Speaker 3>Technical Service Command that's looking into this topic. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>in World War Two, we didn't have an Air Force, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the Army Air Corps.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, So in the same way that the Marines

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<v Speaker 3>are seen as a department of the Navy, the Air

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<v Speaker 3>Force was seen as a department of the Army. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the marine weren't the Marines created like the

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<v Speaker 3>year before?

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<v Speaker 2>It was like seventeen seventy five or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I plucking that up? Oh wow? All right? So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>November ten, seventeen seventy five.

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<v Speaker 3>And then uh, Navy's birthday is October eleventh, seventeen seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>But all of.

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<v Speaker 3>That together here. But my point is if the Air Force,

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard a theory and I don't know if there's

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<v Speaker 3>any real weight behind this. And I'm not even saying

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<v Speaker 3>I fully believe this, because yes, having enough air assets

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<v Speaker 3>to warrant their own military branch. Okay, I get it, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>But I have heard a theory that the entire reason

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<v Speaker 3>the Air Force was created was for this purpose, to

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<v Speaker 3>look into UFOs and things like that. Because think about this,

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<v Speaker 3>the Air Force up until very recently, with the creation

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<v Speaker 3>of the Space Force, the Air Force was all encompassing

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<v Speaker 3>of our satellites and everything else like this too. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen forty five, World War two ends, we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>an air force. Nineteen forty eight, not only do we

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<v Speaker 3>have an Air Force, but they have a specific group

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<v Speaker 3>that's looking into UAPs and UFOs and all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was around the time that NASA was created, too,

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<v Speaker 2>which we are going to be doing a story on

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<v Speaker 2>the origins of NASA very soon, and that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be something wild. I know that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people saying, well, NASA technically started out, you know, observing

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean or observing the ocean floor and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what was going on down there. Allegedly they

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<v Speaker 2>did it for a year and then they switched to space,

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<v Speaker 2>and so some people believe that, well, maybe what they

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<v Speaker 2>found in the oceans was a little bit too scary,

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<v Speaker 2>or they were told to fuck off by the water

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<v Speaker 2>gods or whatever, and there is some credence to that story.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna be diving into it. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>it's National Aeronautic Space Space Administration, but it was a

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<v Speaker 2>different name before that same group of people, different name,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like a rebranding thing. So yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in the same respect of like whenever people

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<v Speaker 2>say that there were presidents before George Washington, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>kinda but not not exactly, but kind of you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, So, so we got Project Saucer right slash

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<v Speaker 3>project what was the name of that thing, Project Saucer

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<v Speaker 3>Slash signed right. Then one year later, nineteen forty nine,

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<v Speaker 3>we got Project Grudge, and I had honestly never heard

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<v Speaker 3>of this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's learn a little bit, okay. So Project Grudge

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<v Speaker 2>was a short lived project by the US Air Force

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<v Speaker 2>to Investigate Unidentified Flying Objects. GRUDGE succeeded Project Sign in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen in February nineteen forty nine, and then and then

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<v Speaker 2>followed by Project Blue Book. The project formally ended in

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<v Speaker 2>December of nineteen forty nine, but continued in a minimal

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<v Speaker 2>capacity until late nineteen ninety nine. Wow, that's pretty fucking recent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that is, and that's not They didn't just like

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<v Speaker 3>disband it like they did Project Sign, right, they kept

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<v Speaker 3>it going under wraps.

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<v Speaker 2>Could this be possibly closer to Men in Black bro?

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<v Speaker 3>This is?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's the thing. It's that I think that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these projects never truly ended. But a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people within the government and the military, they

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<v Speaker 2>know that things are compartmentalized that they're never going to

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<v Speaker 2>hear about, right, So all you would need to keep

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<v Speaker 2>one of these projects going is a couple of people,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's all you would need, and that's it. And

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<v Speaker 2>then those couple of people, whenever they're asked who they're

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<v Speaker 2>working for, what they're working on within the government of

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<v Speaker 2>the military, Hey, I'm a I'm a mechanic. I work

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<v Speaker 2>on airplane. Like and we've heard that story too with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the military whistleblowers that they have other

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<v Speaker 2>titles like job titles that and they actually do. They're

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<v Speaker 2>very multifaceted, like they're these people are some of these

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<v Speaker 2>people are fucking genius. You hear them talk and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, one of my I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>have a second grade reading level compared to these people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Oh yeah, I work for the government. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a consultant for one of the big agencies, which one,

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<v Speaker 3>it's one of the ones you probably never heard of,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Department of blah blah blah blah. Make

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<v Speaker 3>up some fancy title. Yeah, it's a lot of office work,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's pretty much all I do. In reality, there

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<v Speaker 3>are real life men in black. Could very well be

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<v Speaker 3>bro could be could be so.

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<v Speaker 2>Project Grudge was intended to alleviate public anxiety over UFOs

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<v Speaker 2>and persuade the public that UFOs constituted nothing unusual or extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>UFO sightings were explained as conventional aircraft, balloons, stars, planets, meteors,

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<v Speaker 2>optical illusions, solar reflections, or even large hailstones. Imagine convincing

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that it was just a large hailstone you saw,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand the like hail the size of softballs happens,

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<v Speaker 3>and sometimes even bigger than that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're free falling, They're not hovering in the fucking air,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what are we talking about here?

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<v Speaker 3>The people of nineteen forty eight were just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay, the government man told me, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be true. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>like bro, what oh man? And that's well, I mean, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people believe whatever a government official is

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<v Speaker 2>going to tell them. Well, you know, because and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that it's a lot of it. It really is psychological,

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<v Speaker 2>because you got to think about it. Whenever somebody seeing

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<v Speaker 2>these things in the forties and the fifties and the

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<v Speaker 2>sixties whatever you know, there, they don't want to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to believe that this thing is possible.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to believe what they just saw up

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<v Speaker 2>in the sky was something fucking otherworldly because it shatters

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<v Speaker 2>the foundation of which they believe material reality actually is.

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<v Speaker 2>And so whenever you hear somebody, you know, of high praise,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it be a government official or military official or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you're you're you're gonna be inclined to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>because you want to believe it's psychological operations here, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on what's your one hundred percent? So anyway, continuing,

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<v Speaker 2>it says project officials recommend that the product are recommended

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<v Speaker 2>that the project be reduced in scope because the very

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<v Speaker 2>existence of Air Force official interest encouraged people to believe

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<v Speaker 2>in UFOs and contributed to a war hysteria atmosphere. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>On December twenty seventh, nineteen forty nine, the Air Force

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<v Speaker 3>So as far as the war hysteria, okay, Now, let's

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<v Speaker 3>put ourselves into the shoes of your average American Joe

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<v Speaker 3>blow circa nineteen forty nine. Okay, America had just been

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<v Speaker 3>attacked only a few years back with Pearl Harbor. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was we had never been attacked like that, well,

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<v Speaker 3>not since the War of eighteen twelve. Okay, So us

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<v Speaker 3>getting attacked by our foreign nation was seen as impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's got the balls to try? And all these things?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And we had kind of we weren't isolationists by

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<v Speaker 3>any means, but we certainly were not wanting to get

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<v Speaker 3>involved in foreign affairs unless we absolutely had to. Now, well,

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<v Speaker 3>the people the government, of course they had their fingers

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<v Speaker 3>in every pie, but I'm talking about your average citizen, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So now we got these unexplainable things that we're seeing

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<v Speaker 3>at night. I could understand a world where your average

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<v Speaker 3>about to hit, right, there's some sort of a new weapon,

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<v Speaker 3>a new flying craft that you know, because we went

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<v Speaker 3>basically straight into the Cold War right after World War

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<v Speaker 3>Two ended, so it was US versus Russia basically as soon.

421
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<v Speaker 2>As that shit ended.

422
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<v Speaker 3>As testy times, extremely testy times. Everybody had just got

423
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<v Speaker 3>home from the war. Everybody's trying to take a sigh

424
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<v Speaker 3>of relief, and we got this shit flying in the

425
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<v Speaker 3>air that nobody can explain, and the government man is

426
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<v Speaker 3>just saying, like, listen, it's no big deal.

427
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<v Speaker 2>It's no big deal. Well, and especially the military people

428
00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:52.880
<v Speaker 2>that just came back from seeing that. You know. For example,

429
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<v Speaker 2>there's this show that I love, I'd always talk about,

430
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:57.759
<v Speaker 2>but it's called Alone. It's on Netflix. It's like Naked

431
00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:01.680
<v Speaker 2>and Afraid or Survivor, but way better. And there was

432
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<v Speaker 2>this military guy, I think he's from Australia or some shit,

433
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:06.839
<v Speaker 2>and he's so he's out there and he's playing in

434
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<v Speaker 2>this game and basically it's a survival kind of show.

435
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<v Speaker 2>And he was prior military of Australia or something like that,

436
00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 2>from somewhere from down Under, and so he was prior

437
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.119
<v Speaker 2>military and he got a lot of PTSD. Well, he

438
00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:23.519
<v Speaker 2>was out there and he was like super calm. He's

439
00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:26.319
<v Speaker 2>out in nature and everything's great. Next thing, you know,

440
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:29.119
<v Speaker 2>a fucking helicopter goes over his head and he full

441
00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:33.079
<v Speaker 2>on breaks down PTSD side, like so much anxiety, so

442
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<v Speaker 2>much stress. He starts crying and then he ends up

443
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<v Speaker 2>giving up like just a few days later. So it's

444
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<v Speaker 2>definitely like it can definitely fuck with you in that way.

445
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<v Speaker 2>So I understand it for sure, for sure.

446
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<v Speaker 3>So just to give a little bit of the backstory here,

447
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<v Speaker 3>it's a Project Blue Book, what it is, how it

448
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<v Speaker 3>started all these things before we go to the next one,

449
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<v Speaker 3>Let's read this next paragraph here, because I didn't realize

450
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<v Speaker 3>they had gotten that many reports.

451
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<v Speaker 2>By the time time Project Bluebook ended, it had collected

452
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<v Speaker 2>twelve thousand, six hundred and eighteen UFO reports and concluded

453
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<v Speaker 2>that most of them were misidentifications of natural phenomena clouds

454
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<v Speaker 2>and stars, et cetera. Yeah, of course, or conventional aircraft.

455
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<v Speaker 2>According to the National Reconnaissance Office, a number of the

456
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<v Speaker 2>reports could be explained by flights of the formerly secret

457
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<v Speaker 2>reconnaissance planes U two and A twelve seven hundred and

458
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<v Speaker 2>one reports were classified as unexplained even after stringent analysis.

459
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:36.400
<v Speaker 2>The UFO reports were archived and are available under the

460
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<v Speaker 2>Freedom of Information Act, but names and other personal information

461
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 2>of all witnesses have been redacted.

462
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<v Speaker 3>So now we've talked about that too, especially out in

463
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<v Speaker 3>the desert where they're testing new types of aircraft, right,

464
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<v Speaker 3>the flying Dorito for instance, aka the bomber. So for

465
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<v Speaker 3>a person who's never seen a jet before, because all

466
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<v Speaker 3>of the planes of World War Two were all prop planes, right,

467
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<v Speaker 3>they had big fans on the front that made them go.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Now we're worried.

469
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<v Speaker 3>We're working with jet propulsion into an average person that's

470
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<v Speaker 3>lived in New Mexico their whole life and has never

471
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<v Speaker 3>seen an air show before, or they've seen pictures or

472
00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.160
<v Speaker 3>in the movies, they've seen a plane. They've some of

473
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:17.680
<v Speaker 3>them have never even been on a plane before in

474
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<v Speaker 3>their life. Now, all of a sudden, we got this

475
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:21.200
<v Speaker 3>thing screaming across the.

476
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<v Speaker 5>Sky like yo, you yeah, yeah, when some other worldly

477
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.359
<v Speaker 5>shit when you're used to like Amelia Earhart style airplanes,

478
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:31.240
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying, And then you see this

479
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<v Speaker 5>fucking u two up in the air.

480
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<v Speaker 2>I get it. I get this.

481
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<v Speaker 3>And so some of those reports could be attributed to

482
00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 3>that which the government officials couldn't tell them what that

483
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<v Speaker 3>was because that was still top secret and classified and

484
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.759
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't a mass produced jet thing that we had.

485
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 2>It was still in the testing phases.

486
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<v Speaker 3>So like, okay, and I can even give credence to

487
00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:53.039
<v Speaker 3>some of the the majority of them, even depending on

488
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<v Speaker 3>where they're at. Right the people in West Virginia didn't

489
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<v Speaker 3>have some sort of a new air craft that was

490
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<v Speaker 3>being tested in West Virginia. They don't test those there,

491
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<v Speaker 3>you see what I'm saying. Depending on the location of

492
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:09.000
<v Speaker 3>the report and what the report was, some of them

493
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<v Speaker 3>can be attributed to something that the people may not

494
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 3>have understood, some new tech they didn't know about.

495
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Fine, okay, Although West Virginia would be a good place to,

496
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:21.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, have these kinds of operations because it's not

497
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<v Speaker 2>densely populated like Wes it had, what's that it's the

498
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>mountains that I'm saying that though yeah, Okay, Well, I

499
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I've I mean, you have your mountain people,

500
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.079
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, it's like Mountain Mama out

501
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:38.880
<v Speaker 2>there with the country roads. But I don't, I don't.

502
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't have an explanation for West Virginia. That's that

503
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>just blows my mind.

504
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:45.920
<v Speaker 3>But seven hundred reports, seven hundred and one reports are

505
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:50.880
<v Speaker 3>classified as unexplained, which I think is pretty interesting. One

506
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<v Speaker 3>of those unexplained reports would be the flat Woods Monster.

507
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:58.359
<v Speaker 3>I got a quick little cli clip that we're gonna

508
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<v Speaker 3>play real quick, and it just kind of talks briefly

509
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:02.559
<v Speaker 3>about it, kind of the overview let's learn.

510
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's no words there there. I read it the

511
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<v Speaker 2>Flatwoods Monster Alien encounter in West Virginia. In nineteen fifty two,

512
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<v Speaker 2>a strange, tall creature with a glowing face was reported

513
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.680
<v Speaker 2>in Flatwoods, West Virginia. The flat The article titled the

514
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<v Speaker 2>flat Woods Monster, also known as the Braxton County Monster,

515
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>is often described as an alien entity cited after a

516
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>bright object crossed the sky. Do you believe?

517
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.799
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So now let's read some of these articles, right.

518
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 2>This one is.

519
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 3>All that's interesting dot com The Flatwoods Monster. Now, also,

520
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 3>I brought up a couple of articles, and yes, some

521
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 3>of them may sound a bit repetitive.

522
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:44.799
<v Speaker 2>I get that.

523
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 3>But with that, understand that there are small differences to

524
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.240
<v Speaker 3>the story or small differences to what the official narrative

525
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.880
<v Speaker 3>is at the time. And I did that on purpose,

526
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 3>or I brought them all in on purpose, because you'll

527
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 3>see this officiating body says this, This officiating body says this. Meanwhile,

528
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.440
<v Speaker 3>the stories from the inhabitants themselves, the eyewitnesses, never changes.

529
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting.

530
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:13.400
<v Speaker 3>And also, I have never heard of another alien story

531
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:17.200
<v Speaker 3>with anything to look close to this. Tall grays are

532
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.920
<v Speaker 3>one thing. The red eyes, the glowing face that, yeah,

533
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.400
<v Speaker 3>we hear that a good bit. They all specifically have

534
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 3>him looking like this, with like looking like an Ace of

535
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Spades style hood on top of his head. I have

536
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:32.599
<v Speaker 3>never seen another report of an alien entity that looks

537
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 3>like this.

538
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Have you. It kind of looks like that that dinosaur

539
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:39.519
<v Speaker 2>whenever it like whenever it's screams, goes and the fucking

540
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.599
<v Speaker 2>pop out. Yeah yeah, and they have a lizard like

541
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.319
<v Speaker 2>that too now but not now. It's been around, but

542
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.759
<v Speaker 2>fucking creepy looking things. But it almost looks like that.

543
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:53.480
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, it says after seven Braxton County. After seven

544
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Braxton County, West Virginia residents, Okay, after seven of them,

545
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm chirpping my mind, just like fucking totally me on there. So,

546
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 2>after seven of the Braxton County, West Virginia residents reported

547
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.319
<v Speaker 2>seeing the Flatwoods Monster while investigating what look like a

548
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 2>UFO crash, local authorities scoured the scene, but they found

549
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>nothing and reportedly laughed off the reports as hysteria. That's disrespectful.

550
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Can well imagine you call your local cops out there,

551
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.960
<v Speaker 3>your local officials, and tell them we saw this thing crash,

552
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 3>something broke off the tops of the trees and things

553
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:27.119
<v Speaker 3>are burned.

554
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>We saw this giant entity.

555
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 3>And then they come back, they go in the woods

556
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 3>to their flashlights, They come back and laugh at you

557
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 3>and tell you to go back to sleep.

558
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Bro This this is like, you know, it's disrespectful for sure.

559
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>But I do want to bring up that time that

560
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:44.039
<v Speaker 2>I had knocking at my trailer door whenever I was

561
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 2>living in Louisiana, and then we had what I called

562
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:48.559
<v Speaker 2>the cops because I thought it was a crackhead or

563
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:50.400
<v Speaker 2>a method or some kind of shit. You're living in

564
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 2>a fucking trailer park in Louisiana. That's usually the person

565
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 2>you're looking for, right, But it was super loud. It

566
00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>was like two o'clock in the morning, and knocked at

567
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 2>the back door, knocked at the front door, knocked on

568
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:05.079
<v Speaker 2>the windows, went outside, looked out the windows, didn't see anybody.

569
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Called the police. The police came, investigated the property and

570
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 2>they were like, hey, are you sure it was human?

571
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:15.079
<v Speaker 2>What the fuck kind of question is that? Right? What

572
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>is that? What do you mean it was it? Human?

573
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Dog's not getting up on his hind legs and banging

574
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.119
<v Speaker 2>on a door. It's not gonna be a bear, you

575
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.279
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? You would see bear prints, Like,

576
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:25.799
<v Speaker 2>what are we talking about? A raccoon is not gonna

577
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 2>have a loud ass banging out a door. Now, there's

578
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 2>no explanation. So I mean things shit happens that is

579
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 2>unexplainable sometimes, you know, but it says One clear evening

580
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.839
<v Speaker 2>in September nineteen fifty two, several boys in flat Woods,

581
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>West Virginia spotted a strange object streaked through the sky.

582
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 2>It appeared to land in a nearby field, so they

583
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 2>headed over to investigate and reportedly came across a ten

584
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.359
<v Speaker 2>foot tall creature that since become known as the flat

585
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Woods Monster. The mother of the two boys, Kathleen May,

586
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and a teenage National guardsman, Jeene Lemon, were two members

587
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>of the group who claim to have seen the monster.

588
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.359
<v Speaker 2>They went on to give it interviews to reporters and

589
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.640
<v Speaker 2>even shared their encounter on national television, spreading the story

590
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>of the Flatwood Monster across the country.

591
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 3>Ten foot tall, dude, I said eight earlier, I misspoke

592
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.960
<v Speaker 3>that thing standing ten foot tall with glowing eyes, and

593
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 3>you just watched this crash from the sky. Yeah, I

594
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 3>would be fucking terrified.

595
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Dude. I thought about this, you know, because we had

596
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 2>been talking a little bit about string theory and different

597
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 2>dimensions and shit like that, and I obviously have dabbled

598
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>into psychedelics and shit like that. And there's some things

599
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 2>that you'll see in psychedelics, whether it's like when your

600
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>eyes are closed or whatever, that it's almost too intricate

601
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.079
<v Speaker 2>to even look at. Too. It's like so much to

602
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.680
<v Speaker 2>where it literally feels like it's breaking your mind because

603
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 2>you just can't comprehend what you're seeing. Like I'm talking

604
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 2>about dimensions on top of dimensions on top of dimensions,

605
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 2>fractal on top of fractal on top of fractal, it

606
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 2>your mind can't process it right, And so I think

607
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>that whenever we're talking about like different dimensional entities that

608
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>are coming, I think that, well, you know, you hear

609
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 2>the story about how they have to rate or lower

610
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>their vibration. Now I don't know what to believe, but

611
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 2>this is what the story is, is that they have

612
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 2>to lower their vibration in order to become physical in

613
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>this reality. Is it possible that what we're looking at

614
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:27.039
<v Speaker 2>is entities that are lowering their vibration and they're trying

615
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>to seem as human like as possible the best way

616
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 2>they possibly can, and then they end up looking something

617
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 2>like this. Could this be the explanation for the Bigfoot?

618
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Could this be the explanation for you know, certain UFO

619
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:42.559
<v Speaker 2>or certain extraterrestrials and stuff like that. I just wonder

620
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 2>if that's what's going on, like the conversion into this dimension.

621
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 3>It's very possible, right, we don't know because nothing has

622
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 3>been quote unquote confirmed now, and I'm not even saying

623
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.400
<v Speaker 3>that all extraterrestrial sightings are interdimensional beings, but I'm also

624
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:01.359
<v Speaker 3>not saying that none of them are, right. I mean,

625
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 3>it's very possible, and who knows, maybe these entities are

626
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 3>traveling light years right from planets a planet or galaxy

627
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 3>to galaxy. We're talking about a gap of time that

628
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 3>is hard for the human mind to wrap itself around.

629
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<v Speaker 3>And if they're jumping it that quickly, it would make

630
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<v Speaker 3>sense that they're doing interdimensional travel, right, cutting a wormhole

631
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<v Speaker 3>through dimensions to jump light years at a time. Maybe

632
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 3>it takes their bodies a little bit too slow down, right,

633
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 3>because you go into a different vibrational energy when you

634
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 3>go into a wormhole like that.

635
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Look, who knows? Who knows? Uh, yeah, yeah, it's a

636
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:39.159
<v Speaker 2>strange shit. And I'm so excited that we're like every

637
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>day we're getting more and more and more into the

638
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>future and more able to try and at least comprehend

639
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 2>what it is what we're looking at, and like it's

640
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>super What a cool time to be alive. I mean,

641
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:52.599
<v Speaker 2>I know it's crazy, I know it's hectic and the

642
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 2>conspiratorial world with all the crazy shit going on, but

643
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:59.400
<v Speaker 2>just to know that, like dude, we are living in

644
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 2>fucking the wildest time to ever be alive, and to

645
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:05.039
<v Speaker 2>be honest, it's probably never been a better time to

646
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.639
<v Speaker 2>be a podcaster in general, Like, let's just be real,

647
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 2>there's always something going on and so, and that's all encompassing.

648
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.840
<v Speaker 2>It's not even just you know, geopolitical, like aliens, Like

649
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.039
<v Speaker 2>there's been more alien whistleblowers, more UFO whistleblowers coming out

650
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 2>of the military than ever before. And whether you believe

651
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>them or not, I tend to believe them. And I

652
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 2>know that a lot of people don't like the whole

653
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 2>David Grush story. I get it, but he's not the

654
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>only one. There are so many others that are coming

655
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 2>out right now too. Yeah. So, anyway, back to the story.

656
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.280
<v Speaker 2>It says local police found no evidence to back up

657
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:43.079
<v Speaker 2>their claims, and a subsequent investigation by the US Air

658
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Force concluded that there was nothing paranormal about what they

659
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:49.719
<v Speaker 2>had seen, but the seven witnesses remained adamant but that

660
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:53.559
<v Speaker 2>whatever that had happened that September night was anything but ordinary.

661
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 2>There have been no reported sightings of the Flatwood Monster

662
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:01.119
<v Speaker 2>since nineteen fifty two, but the mysterio cryptid continues to

663
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>draw visitors to rural Braxton County, West Virginia to this day.

664
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<v Speaker 2>So here's the legend of the flat Woods Monster. I'm

665
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>ready for this one. Yeah. On September twelfth, nineteen fifty two,

666
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 2>a group of boys was playing in their school yard

667
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 2>in a tiny town of flat Woods, West Virginia. One

668
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:20.079
<v Speaker 2>of them suddenly gave a shout that turned all the

669
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.360
<v Speaker 2>children's attention to the sky above. According to the history,

670
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 2>they saw a pulsating or a pulsing red light that

671
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.599
<v Speaker 2>streaked through the air and crashed onto a local farm.

672
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Two of the boys, thirteen year old Ed May and

673
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 2>his twelve year old brother Freddie, ran home with their

674
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 2>friends to tell their mother Kathleen, what they had seen.

675
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Miss May and the five young boys were joined by

676
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>a seventeen year old National guardsman named Geene Lemon and

677
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the May's family dog as they trek to the farm

678
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.639
<v Speaker 2>to investigate. As they approached a wooded area near an

679
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 2>open field, they noticed an odd mist. Lemon then thought

680
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 2>he spotted a pair of glowing eyes in a tree. Suddenly,

681
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 2>a Frankenstein like monster emerged directly in front of them.

682
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, this is the site of the alleged

683
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:11.199
<v Speaker 3>Flatwood Monster sighting nineteen fifty two. So here they are there,

684
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:13.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, walking down this little trail here, and they

685
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 3>saw a ten foot glowing eyed monster standing there looking

686
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 3>at him.

687
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>This is almost borderline a little Scott Pacy right, because

688
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>he talks about seeing eyes. Yes, but also this was

689
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>by multiple witnesses.

690
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.239
<v Speaker 3>It's not just one guy, it's all of them saying

691
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 3>the exact same thing. They all came back and drew

692
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 3>the exact same image.

693
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well Lemon later he was the National Guardsman. Lemon

694
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 2>later described the creature as a ten foot monster with

695
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 2>a blood red body and a green face that seemed

696
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>to glow reptilian much let's go baby. Its head was

697
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:53.800
<v Speaker 2>shaped like a spade, and it had clawed hands, and

698
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>it seemed to be wearing a dark metal dress. WHOA

699
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 2>could this possibly be a robot or something? I don't know.

700
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.800
<v Speaker 2>The group immediately turned and fled. A local high schooler

701
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:09.239
<v Speaker 2>later recalled what he had heard about the incident. In quotes.

702
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:12.239
<v Speaker 2>He said, one of the boys pete his pants, their

703
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:16.079
<v Speaker 2>dog ran home with his tail between his legs. The

704
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:19.199
<v Speaker 2>terrified witness immediately informed the police about what they had seen,

705
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and they weren't the only ones, so there were additional

706
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.519
<v Speaker 2>sightings of the Flatwood's monster as well. It says when

707
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:28.159
<v Speaker 2>investigators went to the farm to corroborate what missus May

708
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:31.199
<v Speaker 2>and the six boys had seen. They found nothing amiss.

709
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 2>A local newspaper wrote at the time that state police

710
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:39.559
<v Speaker 2>laughed off the reports as hysteria. Of course, however, the

711
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 2>September twelfth siding wasn't the only recorded incident regarding the

712
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Flatwoods Monster. According to the official website of Braxton County,

713
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 2>West Virginia, multiple other residents had encounters with similar unexplainable

714
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.440
<v Speaker 2>beings around the same time. And there's the newspaper clipping

715
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 2>saying Braxton County residents faint become ill after run in

716
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:02.400
<v Speaker 2>with weird ten foot months. Zoom it on that and

717
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>read it. But not really, it's blair. That's the other

718
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:06.840
<v Speaker 2>thing too. We'll read it in a couple of articles

719
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:08.119
<v Speaker 2>here in a minute.

720
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Basically, the smell that this thing was giving off turn

721
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 3>people's stomachs. There was a couple of examples of people fainting.

722
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.599
<v Speaker 3>A couple of people started puking and shitting all over themselves,

723
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:22.599
<v Speaker 3>like being around this thing. Either A it terrified them

724
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.559
<v Speaker 3>so bad that their body just shut down, or B

725
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:28.239
<v Speaker 3>the smell that it was putting off was actually making

726
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 3>them sick.

727
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean the vibration alone. If it

728
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>is an extra dimensional entity, if we're talking about it,

729
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:39.880
<v Speaker 2>could be that it was just too much for regular physical,

730
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.119
<v Speaker 2>third dimensional beings. I mean anything. We don't know. I

731
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>mean it's hard to even think about what is being

732
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 2>observed in other dimensions and then how are they transforming

733
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 2>and what are they giving off whenever they come here.

734
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, we don't know. All we can do is

735
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 2>just base it off of stories like this. But it's

736
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<v Speaker 2>it says. Several days before the event in flat Woods,

737
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.280
<v Speaker 2>a woman named Oudra Harper, who lived five miles north

738
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>of flat Woods, said that she was walking through the

739
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Speaker 2>woods with her friends when they saw a ball of

740
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 2>fire on a hill. They thought nothing of it, assuming

741
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:16.719
<v Speaker 2>a farmer was simply burning something in his field. However,

742
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>when Harper glanced back, she saw the dark silhouette of

743
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.639
<v Speaker 2>an eerily tall man emerging from the spot where the

744
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>flames had just been blazing. Oh, we've heard stories like

745
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:29.800
<v Speaker 2>this before, dude. We have this thing stepped out of

746
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the ball of flames. What this is a Bloodsoe story.

747
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes it is. Yeah, this is exactly what they talk about.

748
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:40.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's always in the woods. It's always in the woods.

749
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 3>It's never around a big city center somewhere. It's always

750
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 3>way off the beaten path where they think no one's

751
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:47.480
<v Speaker 3>gonna see them.

752
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, buddy, it says. Then. On September thirteenth, a young

753
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:55.400
<v Speaker 2>couple was driving on a rural route twenty miles south

754
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.079
<v Speaker 2>of Can we just change the term rural that? I

755
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.760
<v Speaker 2>hate that word. It's like it's hard to say, and

756
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:01.679
<v Speaker 2>it sounds weird.

757
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:04.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, we I mean you could just say

758
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:07.519
<v Speaker 3>a country route right there, we go, thing, But yeah,

759
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 3>rural slash, rural slash. Yeah, people have weird times saying

760
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 3>that one. It's like Worcestershire sauce. People say that's so weird.

761
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh worces your sister in a shower sauce. Oh my god.

762
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 3>And you know what, here's how you can tell you're

763
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 3>saying that word right, not to detract. Go to your phone,

764
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 3>hit the microphone button and say that sauce, however you

765
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.480
<v Speaker 3>think you're gonna say it, And see what your phone

766
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.840
<v Speaker 3>types out. If you type in war Chester and it

767
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.159
<v Speaker 3>comes out war and then Chester is two separate words.

768
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Guess what that's not? How it's pronounced Worcestershire Worcester. Sure,

769
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 2>That's how I always said it. Worcester, Sure, Worcester. Sure,

770
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 2>people know what you mean.

771
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Though, I've done it my way Worcestershire and it always

772
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 3>comes up right.

773
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, hey, whatever whatever works for you. But uh but anyhow,

774
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Uh so they were driving down. A young couple was

775
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.159
<v Speaker 2>driving down a rural route twenty miles south of the

776
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 2>flat Woods when their car broke down. George and Edith Snidowski.

777
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Snidowski were with their eighteen month old son, and we're

778
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>desperate to get their vehicle back on the road. As

779
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:16.039
<v Speaker 2>darkness fell, suddenly they smelled sulfur and a bright light

780
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>filled the sky. When they looked up, there was a

781
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.519
<v Speaker 2>ten foot tall monster hovering in front of them and

782
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 2>had clawed hands in a reptile or reptilian head. The

783
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.679
<v Speaker 2>creature touched their car before driving into the nearby woods,

784
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 2>and the and the vehicle suddenly started again.

785
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Wow, so just by touching he was able to fix

786
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:34.360
<v Speaker 3>the electronics.

787
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Huh. It's kind of reminiscent of the Betty and Barney

788
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 2>Hill story. Yeah, very reminiscent. I also wonder if this

789
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 2>was an interracial couple.

790
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, who's to say in West By God Virginia.

791
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:50.960
<v Speaker 3>That would definitely have not gone over so well in

792
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:55.000
<v Speaker 3>this day and age. But possibly possibly this is Kathleen May.

793
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 3>This is the mom that the two boys ran home

794
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:00.000
<v Speaker 3>and grabbed. This is her drawing of what she saw

795
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 3>that day.

796
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:03.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

797
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Metal dress, clawed hands, ten foot tall spade. As far

798
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.519
<v Speaker 3>as like some sort of a hood or cowl or

799
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:13.280
<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to call that face with no real

800
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 3>defining features except glowing red eyes.

801
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, So you know how you always see, like

802
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 2>behind a lot of religious figures, like the sun is

803
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:25.960
<v Speaker 2>always behind their head. I wonder if what was going

804
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 2>on behind this entity's head was like a flame, because

805
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 2>it almost looks like a flame going up right.

806
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 3>It kind of does, But they don't say that it

807
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:35.880
<v Speaker 3>was glowing. They say the eyes are glowing. I don't

808
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.800
<v Speaker 3>know if it was like a giant flame or maybe

809
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 3>that's like supposed to be what that looks like is

810
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:43.960
<v Speaker 3>a flame but not actually a flame. Maybe that's what

811
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 3>it was like based on as far as the design goes,

812
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know alien you know, fashion choices,

813
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 3>but I who knows.

814
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 2>However, these incidents didn't get nearly as much attention as

815
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 2>the sightings by Missus May and the six boys. Their

816
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 2>story quickly spread in the flat Woods Monster was soon

817
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:06.159
<v Speaker 2>making headlines across the country, and so there was an

818
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:10.599
<v Speaker 2>official investigation. Though local police almost immediately dismissed the story

819
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:13.679
<v Speaker 2>of the flat Woods Monster as hysteria, others weren't so sure.

820
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 2>One newspaper publisher who spoke with Missus May and the

821
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>boys immediately after the incident said, in quotes, these people

822
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 2>were the most scared people I've ever seen. Please don't

823
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:28.119
<v Speaker 2>make up that kind of story that quickly. People don't

824
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:31.320
<v Speaker 2>make up that kind of story that quickly. Okay, Yeah,

825
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:32.239
<v Speaker 2>and I would agree.

826
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.599
<v Speaker 3>These people were scared shitless and they all came up

827
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.840
<v Speaker 3>with the exact same story that fast on a random

828
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.519
<v Speaker 3>September day. Keep in mind, those boys are playing at

829
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 3>the school. It was the middle of the day.

830
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're not gonna This is why the whole idea

831
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 2>of like a shared hallucination. I don't believe in shared

832
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.440
<v Speaker 2>hallucinations unless you're on like a psychedelic. But if you're,

833
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:55.599
<v Speaker 2>if you're like.

834
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:59.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, you're on the middle of nation even with

835
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.760
<v Speaker 3>psych adelics, do you realize how hard that is to

836
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 3>achieve I'm not saying it's impossible.

837
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.960
<v Speaker 2>How rare. It is super rare, like it happens, but

838
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.480
<v Speaker 2>it's so and you almost gotta like try and make

839
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 2>it happen. There's like techniques for it and shit like that.

840
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:17.199
<v Speaker 2>But this, I mean, dude, missus May and the boys

841
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.639
<v Speaker 2>like and they're all describing the same exactly. There's something

842
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.599
<v Speaker 2>going on here, dude, Like whenever you got everybody talking

843
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:26.639
<v Speaker 2>about a very similar thing and then the other couple,

844
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, their car breaks down and I don't know.

845
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:33.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we got the one nineteen year old National guardsman,

846
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:35.639
<v Speaker 3>and I mean just because he was in the National

847
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Guard doesn't make him like a source of like he

848
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 3>knows what he's talking about. He was a nineteen year

849
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:43.039
<v Speaker 3>old from West Virginia who joined the National Guard. Like

850
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 3>he was as much of a regular guy as you

851
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 3>could think. These school children and their mom and this

852
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 3>National Guard guy all saw the exact same thing. Broad daylight,

853
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.039
<v Speaker 3>middle of the day. The kids are playing at school

854
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 3>and they saw this thing crash.

855
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:56.800
<v Speaker 4>Right.

856
00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like they got woken up at two am

857
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.320
<v Speaker 3>and they were creeping out in the woods of flashlights

858
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:02.039
<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the night.

859
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it was.

860
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Broad daylight, and they all came back with the exact

861
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 3>same story, exact same smell, all these things. Yeah, they

862
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.039
<v Speaker 3>don't make that up that quickly, especially not in the

863
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 3>big city of flat Woods in Braxton County. They're not

864
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 3>trying to get famous from this shit. They're trying to

865
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.719
<v Speaker 3>understand what these are, what they want answers.

866
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that, you know, and I know

867
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.719
<v Speaker 2>that the National Security or the National guardsman was only nineteen.

868
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 2>He's barely stepped his you know, his feet into the

869
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.480
<v Speaker 2>military world. But I think that people like to bring

870
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 2>that up because they believe that maybe somebody in the

871
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:41.599
<v Speaker 2>military is less likely to fib about that kind of stuff.

872
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe I'm not saying one hundred percent, but that's

873
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.079
<v Speaker 2>the overarching view is that usually military members are honest,

874
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.559
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, like they're doing something that

875
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:56.360
<v Speaker 2>is for it's selfless, it's for the contry kind of thing,

876
00:46:56.639 --> 00:46:58.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, So it could be something like that.

877
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, So then they went on and they were

878
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.440
<v Speaker 3>invited to New York to speak about their experiences on CBS,

879
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.960
<v Speaker 3>and the news of the monster soon spread so far

880
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.440
<v Speaker 3>that even the US Air Force got involved. Their conclusion however,

881
00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:15.760
<v Speaker 3>was similar to the local police is look at this one.

882
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't read these words. Yeah, I'll read it. So

883
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 2>let me get the screen a little closer. Here it says,

884
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.800
<v Speaker 2>the monster which proud the hills of Braxton County on Friday,

885
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.480
<v Speaker 2>September twelfth, was drawn by a New York artist from

886
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:34.360
<v Speaker 2>descriptions given by missus Kathleen May and Gene Lemon, Flatwood's residents,

887
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.480
<v Speaker 2>who said that they saw the quote unquote thing. The

888
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.159
<v Speaker 2>two witnesses with a Lee Stuart Junior Sutton. My god,

889
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:46.280
<v Speaker 2>that's a long name. Oh a Lee Stuart Junior Sutton,

890
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:52.360
<v Speaker 2>publisher and their experiences on We the People television show

891
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 2>in New York Friday night. And then it starts to

892
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:55.960
<v Speaker 2>rip off.

893
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 3>But look, this is an image of a regular sized guy.

894
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:03.360
<v Speaker 3>This is the National Guardsman. This is the mom so

895
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 3>an average dude, call that five ten maybe, And this

896
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:08.559
<v Speaker 3>was the size of the thing they saw.

897
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this is almost like a you know,

898
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.719
<v Speaker 2>it kind of looks like a Mars attacks kind of things.

899
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I think this might be the inspiration for that oh shit.

900
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:23.800
<v Speaker 3>So and I want you to keep this image specifically

901
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 3>in your mind because when we start getting into what

902
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:30.280
<v Speaker 3>the official narrative, and some of the possible solutions are

903
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.199
<v Speaker 3>they are downright insulting, honestly.

904
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, as you would probably expect that, especially for

905
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:42.039
<v Speaker 2>this time, Yeah, in nineteen forty eight. Yeah, no doubt.

906
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.280
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, like even still, bro, you couldn't come

907
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 3>up with anything more than an owl.

908
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:48.119
<v Speaker 2>We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Andy. Yeah,

909
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:50.480
<v Speaker 2>they're probably looking at the police, are probably looking at

910
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the people. Y'all been smoking some of that wacky tobaki,

911
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:57.239
<v Speaker 2>haven't you right? Something bullshit like that. He's bumpkins in

912
00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:57.920
<v Speaker 2>West Virginia.

913
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 3>They don't know what they've seen except all of them

914
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:01.760
<v Speaker 3>saw this exact figure.

915
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:06.000
<v Speaker 2>But like, yeah, okay, So the Air Force determined that

916
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>the streak of the streak the boys had seen in

917
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.199
<v Speaker 2>the sky was a meteor, which had also been spotted

918
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 2>three hundred miles away in Baltimore at the very same time.

919
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:16.360
<v Speaker 2>As for the clawed monster with glowing eyes, it was

920
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 2>simply an owl, investigator say, The mystery of the flat

921
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Woods Monster indoors to this day. The Roadside America reports

922
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 2>that the tiny West Virginia town had embraced the legend,

923
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and there's even a museum dedicated to the cryptid that

924
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:31.159
<v Speaker 2>attracts believers of the paranormal from far and wide. We

925
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:33.199
<v Speaker 2>may never know the truth about the flat Woods Monster,

926
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 2>but the legend will continue to live on an owl

927
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.280
<v Speaker 2>brow an owl, yeah no.

928
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:41.920
<v Speaker 3>And for those that may not understand exactly what I

929
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 3>mean by an owl, we're going to talk more about it.

930
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:45.320
<v Speaker 4>Here.

931
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 2>They got some images that are going to make it

932
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:50.639
<v Speaker 2>make a little more sense, you know. Just let's dive

933
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:50.960
<v Speaker 2>in here.

934
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 3>This is actually from historic mysteries, and this is where

935
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:57.719
<v Speaker 3>we have another one talking about this exact same instance.

936
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 3>And I want everybody to pay attention to which sections

937
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:03.320
<v Speaker 3>of the story change depending on the narrator.

938
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay says something is lurking deep in the deep forest

939
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:13.039
<v Speaker 2>in Flatwoods in West Virginia's Braxton County. Although only cited

940
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.719
<v Speaker 2>a few times, the occurrence was so terrifying to witnesses

941
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 2>that it will never be forgotten. Also known as the

942
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Braxton County Monster, the Flatwood's Monster is an entity that

943
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:24.800
<v Speaker 2>was sighted on September twelfth, nineteen fifty two, in the

944
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 2>forests of the eastern United States. Many a theorized as

945
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.639
<v Speaker 2>to what was seen that night, but the question remains

946
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:37.239
<v Speaker 2>what was the Flatwood's Monster so Dum in September twelfth,

947
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty two, and the night was drawing in. At

948
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>around seven to fifteen pm in the evening, two brothers

949
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Speaker 2>named Freddie and Edward, and two of their friends, Tommy

950
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 2>and Neil, were playing on the lawn of the Flatwoods

951
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Elementary School. All of a sudden, they could see a

952
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 2>bright light in the sky. It appeared to them as

953
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:58.320
<v Speaker 2>if something crashed nearby and landed on G. Bailey Fisher,

954
00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:02.559
<v Speaker 2>a local farmer. They ran to the Maze to the

955
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Maze House nearby home and told them what they had

956
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:09.719
<v Speaker 2>seen to Kathleen May. Kathleen May informed Eugene Lemon, a

957
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:12.679
<v Speaker 2>National guardsman, about the incident. They all, along with Richie,

958
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:14.880
<v Speaker 2>the family dog, went to the crash site to find

959
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 2>out what it actually was. When they reached the crash site,

960
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.039
<v Speaker 2>they noticed a strange metallic smell in the air. Moreover,

961
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.360
<v Speaker 2>they also heard a number of high pitched noises that

962
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:25.719
<v Speaker 2>came from the darkness in front of them. Not scared

963
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:28.599
<v Speaker 2>at this point, they pressed on, intrigued by what had

964
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:31.360
<v Speaker 2>happened there. Then the group came across a horrific site

965
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:33.280
<v Speaker 2>out of the darkness. They saw a ten foot tall

966
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:35.360
<v Speaker 2>creature described as wearing a metal dress and with a

967
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 2>spade shaped head. The hands of the creature were clawed

968
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:38.960
<v Speaker 2>and twisted.

969
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 3>So this is a cartoon rendition of it. But again

970
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.360
<v Speaker 3>the image is pretty much etched in stone. We have

971
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 3>another thing where we show about the museum of the monster.

972
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:53.960
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty wild, dude, it's yeah.

973
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Anyway, so the eyes of the creature glowed orange.

974
00:51:57.559 --> 00:51:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh I thought it was red.

975
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying there's these weird little differences that depending

976
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:05.719
<v Speaker 3>on who you ask, it changes, But there's some parts

977
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 3>that are just like set in stone.

978
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And it seemed to them as if the

979
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:12.920
<v Speaker 2>creature was just floating above the ground. Seeing the creature

980
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.960
<v Speaker 2>glide and hiss, all of them fled the area out

981
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:19.679
<v Speaker 2>of terror. So this is this is where it starts

982
00:52:19.679 --> 00:52:24.000
<v Speaker 2>to get into like all right, uh, who like what

983
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:27.719
<v Speaker 2>local newspaper are in the pockets of the people that

984
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.119
<v Speaker 2>are enforcing the MK ultra, you know what I'm saying.

985
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Like it it gets you to think, because if there's

986
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 2>a newspaper or a radio station or a television station

987
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:39.679
<v Speaker 2>or something like that that is in the pocket of

988
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.639
<v Speaker 2>the government that is trying to hush hush a story,

989
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:44.960
<v Speaker 2>then you're gonna get a story about what you just heard,

990
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the previous article. Whenever it just says,

991
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:49.440
<v Speaker 2>oh well, it's probably you know, it gives you all

992
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the facts, it gives you. It gives you as many

993
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.159
<v Speaker 2>facts with just a couple of little twists to make

994
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 2>you not believe it. And I think that that is

995
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 2>probably the work of some that's in the pocket of

996
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:04.519
<v Speaker 2>government agencies. Personally, that's where I come from. But whenever

997
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.679
<v Speaker 2>you hear stories like you know, not even proceeding the

998
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:11.519
<v Speaker 2>same exact story with entirely different details, could it just

999
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 2>be that there's a misunderstanding of the story. Could it

1000
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 2>be that somebody's trying to fluff up the story. That's

1001
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:19.840
<v Speaker 2>always possible, But for a story like this to have

1002
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:23.000
<v Speaker 2>been documented, you know, so many times and it happened

1003
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.559
<v Speaker 2>back in the fifties like these, it could it be

1004
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:29.639
<v Speaker 2>that there are actual, like real excited reporters who are

1005
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 2>excited to learn the true story to see if the

1006
00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:36.199
<v Speaker 2>stories in the media were just squash pieces, Like I

1007
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.239
<v Speaker 2>love those kind of reporters that really want to know

1008
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 2>the truth. If you have, you know, a kindling of

1009
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.760
<v Speaker 2>something within you that says I think there's more of

1010
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 2>the story because those people were not just full of shit,

1011
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:49.119
<v Speaker 2>right exactly.

1012
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 3>But even to that point, look the hold the orange eyes?

1013
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Does that look like orange eyes? The picture literally above those.

1014
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Words the mouth area looks orange.

1015
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:02.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, but there's all of the glowing red

1016
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 3>eyes though. You see what I mean, it's like they

1017
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:09.599
<v Speaker 3>and we're nitpicking on this one. Fine it hissing at them.

1018
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 3>That's a new feature, right, And you're gonna see there's

1019
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 3>other sightings down here that are brought up and you know,

1020
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.239
<v Speaker 3>why weren't those brought up on the other article? Why

1021
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:21.320
<v Speaker 3>are they brought up on this article? And that's kind

1022
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:23.719
<v Speaker 3>of a point here, bro. I'm not denying that the

1023
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 3>story is real. I'm saying that we need to acknowledge

1024
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 3>and bring to light the twists that people will put

1025
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:33.119
<v Speaker 3>on it, right the spins, if you will.

1026
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:37.039
<v Speaker 2>What was the language that Harry Potter understood, like speaking

1027
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:41.719
<v Speaker 2>to the snakes parcel tongue? Yes, yes, And I don't know.

1028
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you think that that could be something

1029
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:47.440
<v Speaker 2>that's possibly real, like people who are actually speaking to

1030
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:50.599
<v Speaker 2>snakes or possibly because you know that like they found

1031
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:53.280
<v Speaker 2>a way to communicate with dolphins, right, Like they know,

1032
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like they're starting to really comprehend it, and they like

1033
00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:58.960
<v Speaker 2>they hook it up to AI to try and see

1034
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:01.199
<v Speaker 2>if AI can decipher what the dolphin is saying. So

1035
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:03.400
<v Speaker 2>that way you can go and have back and forth

1036
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:06.360
<v Speaker 2>conversations with a dolphin. And shit, imagine what the fuck

1037
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 2>a dolphin's going to tell you, dude, Like, what if

1038
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:11.760
<v Speaker 2>there's some shit in the sea that like, you know,

1039
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:14.039
<v Speaker 2>the government or the military somebody doesn't want us to

1040
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.719
<v Speaker 2>know about. But then there's this one rogue dolphins that's like, yo,

1041
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 2>I got the scoop here it is. You just need

1042
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.320
<v Speaker 2>to be able to understand the kind of thing I

1043
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:21.679
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

1044
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.559
<v Speaker 3>And as thing, dolphin berths used to be a thing,

1045
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.320
<v Speaker 3>and then they outlawed them. Apparently the dolphins would be

1046
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:29.599
<v Speaker 3>able to sonar speak to the child and tell it

1047
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:31.119
<v Speaker 3>to come out and shit.

1048
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the baby wouldn't come out crying, you know,

1049
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:37.239
<v Speaker 2>it would come out like super welcomed to the world,

1050
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.039
<v Speaker 2>and not under like a bright fluorescent light with a

1051
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:44.679
<v Speaker 2>bunch of different hands on it like in a doctor's office. Yeah, dude, Yeah,

1052
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:46.280
<v Speaker 2>they don't want us know in a lot about this shit.

1053
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:51.880
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so it started to hiss. The incident was

1054
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:55.239
<v Speaker 2>reported by Lemon and May to the local authorities. The

1055
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:57.719
<v Speaker 2>local authorities searched the area throughout the night, but we're

1056
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.199
<v Speaker 2>not able to find anything matching the description given to

1057
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:03.960
<v Speaker 2>them by the terrified witnesses. Aside from their obvious distresses

1058
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:08.039
<v Speaker 2>to what they had seen, the group also suffered physical

1059
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:12.079
<v Speaker 2>side effects in the following days. Physical side effects. They

1060
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 2>experienced vomiting, nausea, and throat irritation for a number of days.

1061
00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:18.639
<v Speaker 2>All of them, now, all.

1062
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Of them experienced these things. And again, that's kind of

1063
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:26.079
<v Speaker 3>a key detail. Why wasn't that mentioned on the previous article,

1064
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:28.679
<v Speaker 3>because that's something that you're gonna hear on a couple

1065
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:30.880
<v Speaker 3>of these things. I pulled up here and it was

1066
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.719
<v Speaker 3>they said a burnt metallic smell. Some will say a

1067
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.480
<v Speaker 3>sulfur smell. You know, sulfur does not smell like burnt metal.

1068
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Nose smell is completely different than rotten eggs.

1069
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean, let's let's just try and imagine here,

1070
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:48.639
<v Speaker 2>you're out in the woods and your gallivant and you're

1071
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:51.039
<v Speaker 2>seeing all these different plants, all the different trees. I'm

1072
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:52.800
<v Speaker 2>sure the air is a little bit different in there,

1073
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:56.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's in it's in West Virginia, so maybe it's

1074
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 2>a little bit humid, right, I mean, it's not as

1075
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:02.400
<v Speaker 2>much humidity in West Virginia and Pennsylvania as much as

1076
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 2>it is in the south, obviously in Louisiana, but it's

1077
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:09.000
<v Speaker 2>still up in the seventies as far as percentage of

1078
00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:12.960
<v Speaker 2>humidity up north. So it's not like fucking Arizona where

1079
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:16.960
<v Speaker 2>there's no humidity. Right, So, just going off of the

1080
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:21.400
<v Speaker 2>vomiting and the throaty irritation and shit like that, what

1081
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.360
<v Speaker 2>do you think could have realistically if it's not what

1082
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.840
<v Speaker 2>they're saying it is, what would be the explanation.

1083
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think there is a good explanation. There's no

1084
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.519
<v Speaker 3>official narrative explanation that makes sense.

1085
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they ate some berries they shouldn't have eaten.

1086
00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Possibly, do you feel like you would have heard that like, oh,

1087
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:43.079
<v Speaker 3>along the trail, we stopped and picked some blackberries from this,

1088
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:46.079
<v Speaker 3>and we kept on looking for this thing like none

1089
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:49.599
<v Speaker 3>of that is said, right, and it's possible that maybe

1090
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:52.000
<v Speaker 3>that is a thing that happened and nobody ever reported it.

1091
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:54.639
<v Speaker 3>I just don't see it, man, I don't see it.

1092
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:57.599
<v Speaker 3>I know personally from doing the night fighting and shit,

1093
00:57:57.679 --> 00:58:01.199
<v Speaker 3>the smell of ozone can be nauseating for sure. Dude,

1094
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:03.800
<v Speaker 3>you get a spark thrown into your helmet, it can

1095
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.920
<v Speaker 3>it sucks the oxygen out, and it can make you nauseated.

1096
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:11.840
<v Speaker 3>It can make you gas for air, all these things, throat, irritation, though, nausea, vomiting,

1097
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.480
<v Speaker 3>all of that. Like that's different. That's that's something else.

1098
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:17.920
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not even saying that that was like the

1099
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:20.800
<v Speaker 3>monster did that to them. It might just be like

1100
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:24.599
<v Speaker 3>a result of his craft crashing or something. Maybe that's

1101
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 3>what Like you know, how like a smelling diesel right burning,

1102
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:29.440
<v Speaker 3>it's not a fun smell.

1103
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.840
<v Speaker 2>It can absolutely make you nausees. I have no idea

1104
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:33.840
<v Speaker 2>what the fuel.

1105
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Source is for an alien craft, but if he just

1106
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:39.840
<v Speaker 3>crashed and we have all of this burning fuel of

1107
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:41.519
<v Speaker 3>some type, maybe that's what the smell was.

1108
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe what in the monster himself, I don't know. Well,

1109
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and think about it like like Superman. I mean, I

1110
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:49.599
<v Speaker 2>know it's a fictitious story, but like Superman, kl el

1111
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.360
<v Speaker 2>came from you know, planet Krypton or whatever the fuck,

1112
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and he wasn't special there, like he was just another guy.

1113
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:59.199
<v Speaker 2>So if he comes now he's special here, and the

1114
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.119
<v Speaker 2>same thing for like venom, like venom, you know, the

1115
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 2>the goo or whatever that came from another planet was

1116
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:09.800
<v Speaker 2>actually considered a loser, like he admits, he goes, I

1117
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.039
<v Speaker 2>was a loser like you, even when he's talking to

1118
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Tom Hardy and then he comes there and he's obviously

1119
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:17.320
<v Speaker 2>the shit, right, And so I think that you could

1120
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:21.599
<v Speaker 2>have something like that to where you know, something from

1121
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 2>somewhere else could come here and it could seem it

1122
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:27.320
<v Speaker 2>could It's gonna have some side effects, some things that

1123
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.719
<v Speaker 2>people aren't familiar with obviously. You're talking about like different

1124
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 2>every like the chemical makeup of whatever is coming here

1125
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:38.239
<v Speaker 2>has to be different if it's coming from another place,

1126
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:42.239
<v Speaker 2>another when another where whatever, you know, Like right, just

1127
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:46.440
<v Speaker 2>mathematically our environment here on Earth is like like one

1128
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:48.920
<v Speaker 2>of a kind, isn't it? So you would imagine that

1129
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:51.559
<v Speaker 2>wherever they come from could also be a one of

1130
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:52.119
<v Speaker 2>a kind thing.

1131
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:56.199
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I mean hell, Like what's normal you ever like

1132
00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:58.840
<v Speaker 3>walk into like growing up, you ever walk into one

1133
00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:01.760
<v Speaker 3>of your homeboys' houses and like they their house has

1134
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.559
<v Speaker 3>a smell to it, Yeah, and it's kind of their smell. Yeah,

1135
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:06.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what like you've you've been around this kid

1136
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:08.639
<v Speaker 3>for years and years, and like he has a smell

1137
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:10.920
<v Speaker 3>about I'm not I'm not saying he stinks, right, it

1138
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:12.960
<v Speaker 3>could be like it could be the detergent that his

1139
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:14.760
<v Speaker 3>mom uses or something.

1140
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Their home smell whatever it is, right.

1141
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:19.239
<v Speaker 3>And then you walk into that home and you get

1142
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:21.880
<v Speaker 3>hit with that smell and it's like, oh, oh right,

1143
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:24.039
<v Speaker 3>you live here, you smell like this place. This makes

1144
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:26.840
<v Speaker 3>sense to me. What does that seem like from an

1145
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:28.320
<v Speaker 3>alien perspective?

1146
01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Great point, yeah, no idea? Okay, So. Miss Ada Harper,

1147
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:36.400
<v Speaker 2>a resident of the flat Woods, also reported seeing a

1148
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:38.840
<v Speaker 2>similar creature not long before the fish Or farm. In

1149
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:42.280
<v Speaker 2>an incident, according to Harper, while she was walking through

1150
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 2>the forest or walking through the woods near the town

1151
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.400
<v Speaker 2>of Heaters, she saw the monster. Harper, along with her friends,

1152
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:51.840
<v Speaker 2>was going to a nearby store. Instead of taking the

1153
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.400
<v Speaker 2>long route, they chose to take a shortcut through the forest.

1154
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:57.719
<v Speaker 2>After they had covered only a half a mile distance,

1155
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.880
<v Speaker 2>they saw what they thought was a fire on a hill.

1156
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.480
<v Speaker 2>At first, Harper dismissed the site. However, when she took

1157
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:07.360
<v Speaker 2>a glance back, she could no longer see the fire. Instead,

1158
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 2>she saw a tall, man shaped figure. Out of terror,

1159
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Harper and her friend fled from the site.

1160
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, what's this here? Oh, that's the Project Blue Book anyway.

1161
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.039
<v Speaker 2>After the incident, on September twelfth, another mysterious sighting was

1162
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:24.840
<v Speaker 2>recorded in the flat Woods. According to that story, Edith

1163
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and George Snizkowski, along with their eighteen month old son,

1164
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:31.199
<v Speaker 2>were passing through the rural area between Braxton and Clay County.

1165
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:35.559
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, their car stopped mister Sniskowski. Snitzkowski

1166
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 2>tried to start the car, but all of his efforts

1167
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:43.119
<v Speaker 2>went in vain as it was as it was night,

1168
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the road was completely deserted. While they were figuring out

1169
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:48.039
<v Speaker 2>what to do, they became aware of a foul smell

1170
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:52.559
<v Speaker 2>and their baby suddenly started crying. Then, inexplicably, inexplicably, the

1171
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.760
<v Speaker 2>darkness was filled with a bright, strange light. Ahead of

1172
01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:57.760
<v Speaker 2>them on the road, the couple saw a ten foot

1173
01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:00.559
<v Speaker 2>tall creature in front of the car. The description provided

1174
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:02.960
<v Speaker 2>by the couple was very similar to the monster scene

1175
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:06.400
<v Speaker 2>on September twelfth evening. However, this monster did not wear

1176
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.639
<v Speaker 2>the spade shaped hood. Instead, the head of the monster

1177
01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:14.000
<v Speaker 2>was bony and reptilian, shape shifting shit Reptilians are known

1178
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:16.480
<v Speaker 2>for their shape shifting. That could explain why they saw

1179
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:18.039
<v Speaker 2>two different things. Could be?

1180
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Could it also be that the spade shaped hood was

1181
01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:22.639
<v Speaker 3>its version of.

1182
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 2>A space suit. Oh okay, yeah.

1183
01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Off, because he was like, oh okay, I could breathe

1184
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:29.440
<v Speaker 3>this air, It's okay, So he took it off when

1185
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:30.840
<v Speaker 3>he appeared before these people.

1186
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Could be? Could be? It says the explanations and theories.

1187
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:39.920
<v Speaker 2>The incident on September twelfth was investigated. However, no evidence

1188
01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:43.719
<v Speaker 2>of a crash or any monster was found. In two thousand,

1189
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:47.599
<v Speaker 2>after the investigation of the case, Joe Nickel from a

1190
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, came to the conclusion that the

1191
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:53.760
<v Speaker 2>bright light scene on September twelfth was likely to be

1192
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:57.079
<v Speaker 2>a meteor. The pulsating red light seen by the group

1193
01:02:57.119 --> 01:03:00.559
<v Speaker 2>could have been a hazard beacon or aircraft navigate light.

1194
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.519
<v Speaker 2>The night when the bright light was seen on September twelfth,

1195
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:08.280
<v Speaker 2>a media was observed in the three states of Pennsylvania, Maryland,

1196
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.559
<v Speaker 2>and West Virginia. The flashing red aircraft beacons could also

1197
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:15.320
<v Speaker 2>be seen from the area of sightings. Okay, real quick,

1198
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:21.519
<v Speaker 2>they keep throwing this term out meteor. Do they mean UFO.

1199
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Was saw from three different states because they said it

1200
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:28.400
<v Speaker 3>was seen in Baltimore, Maryland. Now we're hearing Pennsylvania and

1201
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:30.440
<v Speaker 3>of course West Virginia. That's where this whole thing has

1202
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:33.239
<v Speaker 3>taking place. But yeah, okay, it could have been a

1203
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:36.880
<v Speaker 3>meteor that happened that night. Sure, did the meteor produce

1204
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.519
<v Speaker 3>a ten foot tall reptilian spade headed beast?

1205
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:39.880
<v Speaker 4>No?

1206
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:42.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's how meteors get down. But that

1207
01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 3>being said, this is the image. And before I scroll

1208
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:50.840
<v Speaker 3>down when I said an owl earlier, you see.

1209
01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:52.719
<v Speaker 2>The pictures that are being drawn here. Look at this.

1210
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Look at this with your eyeballs right now, and you

1211
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:57.119
<v Speaker 3>see this, dude, right here, you see this. The only

1212
01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.559
<v Speaker 3>thing owl like would be like the eyes.

1213
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is what maybe the clause? No, no, fuck no, close, dude,

1214
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:13.119
<v Speaker 2>And you're talking about something that's ten foot tall.

1215
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Ten fucking foot tall, Jonathan, An owl is what a

1216
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:20.519
<v Speaker 3>foot I'll give you possibly two and a half. Maybe

1217
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:23.039
<v Speaker 3>they got some big ass owls. Fine, bro, And they're like, oh,

1218
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:23.920
<v Speaker 3>what was a shadow?

1219
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:25.760
<v Speaker 2>No at not.

1220
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:28.119
<v Speaker 3>It was seven fifteen when it crashed. By the time

1221
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:29.199
<v Speaker 3>they got out, there was dark.

1222
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:33.400
<v Speaker 2>What shadow? Bro? And like I said, owls. Usually it

1223
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.159
<v Speaker 2>let's just say that there was an owl in the area.

1224
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Pretty likely it's in the woods, right, They're usually like, uh,

1225
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:46.880
<v Speaker 2>there's usually like an omen something like, there's always some

1226
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:51.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of ominous meaning as to like certain certain owl sightings.

1227
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you hear a hoot, maybe you see an owl,

1228
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe you see the owl's eyes or whatever. But they're

1229
01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:58.559
<v Speaker 2>usually always seen as some kind of omens. So could

1230
01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:01.559
<v Speaker 2>an owl have been there as a pos precursor possibly,

1231
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:07.159
<v Speaker 2>But to say that that entity was only an owl, that's.

1232
01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 3>This clearly is the spade shape. You see how his

1233
01:05:09.119 --> 01:05:11.800
<v Speaker 3>wings are doing. It's like, no, dude, like that.

1234
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 2>And also I want to say this story too. So

1235
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:18.119
<v Speaker 2>it was like seven eight years ago something like that.

1236
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:20.639
<v Speaker 2>Me and my brother were we were over at my

1237
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:23.920
<v Speaker 2>sister's house in Louisiana and there was gonna be a

1238
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:26.280
<v Speaker 2>meteor shower that night. So we me and my brother,

1239
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:28.519
<v Speaker 2>we decided to go out and sit in my sister's

1240
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:31.679
<v Speaker 2>driveway and just watch the meteor shower. You know, it's

1241
01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:34.840
<v Speaker 2>it's always so cool anytime you hear a meteor showers coming. Dude,

1242
01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:37.400
<v Speaker 2>go sit in some fucking lawn chairs on your roof

1243
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:39.880
<v Speaker 2>or in your driveway in your backyard or whatever, and

1244
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:42.639
<v Speaker 2>just watch the media shower because you see so many

1245
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:45.199
<v Speaker 2>of them, and some of them come like really close.

1246
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:47.960
<v Speaker 2>And so we were sitting out there one night we

1247
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.000
<v Speaker 2>saw a number of meteors that were, you know, really

1248
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:52.960
<v Speaker 2>high up, like shooting star kind of thing, and then

1249
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:56.000
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, dude, fucking out of nowhere, this

1250
01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:59.280
<v Speaker 2>one meteor comes and I shit, you not, dude. This

1251
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:03.079
<v Speaker 2>meteor was like maybe one hundred and fifty feet off

1252
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the ground, and me and my brother were like, oh

1253
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:08.400
<v Speaker 2>my god, I cannot believe. We just saw that, Like

1254
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:12.159
<v Speaker 2>it was like fucking streaking through the sky and it

1255
01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:15.920
<v Speaker 2>seemed like it could have landed literally three neighborhoods down,

1256
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.199
<v Speaker 2>like that's how close it was. They reported saying that

1257
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it actually landed in Florida, which blows my damn mind.

1258
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.159
<v Speaker 2>But you know, during that I knew that it was

1259
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:28.480
<v Speaker 2>a meteor, you know what I'm saying, Like there was

1260
01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:32.119
<v Speaker 2>nothing ominous about it was really cool. But to say

1261
01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:35.360
<v Speaker 2>that a fucking you're seeing some kind of cryptid you're

1262
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:38.239
<v Speaker 2>not gonna mistake the two Like That's that's my point

1263
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:40.880
<v Speaker 2>is that we didn't mistakingly say, oh, that was probably

1264
01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:44.519
<v Speaker 2>a UFO. No, like it was on a trajectory. It

1265
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:47.280
<v Speaker 2>was speeding very fast, it was streaking through the sky.

1266
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:50.559
<v Speaker 2>We knew what it was. To say that that that

1267
01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:53.559
<v Speaker 2>that something like that could be explained as a cryptid,

1268
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:55.639
<v Speaker 2>that's that there's no way.

1269
01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:59.920
<v Speaker 3>So there's an official narrative. There's a meteor that land

1270
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:04.079
<v Speaker 3>in a fireball that instantly went away, and an owl

1271
01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:06.559
<v Speaker 3>cast a shadow that scared the hell out of these people.

1272
01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Bro And then not only that, there was other sightings.

1273
01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:13.239
<v Speaker 3>And that doesn't explain the smell. That doesn't explain the

1274
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:16.239
<v Speaker 3>nause in the vomiting, That doesn't explain ten foot tall,

1275
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:19.239
<v Speaker 3>that didn't explain the hissing. Owls don't hiss, right, So

1276
01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:22.639
<v Speaker 3>none of this makes sense. But anyway, we're gonna continue reading.

1277
01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:24.559
<v Speaker 3>But I did want to show this is what they're

1278
01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:31.079
<v Speaker 3>h I guess proposing, was the image that they were

1279
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:33.719
<v Speaker 3>seeing was because of this. And for the record, none

1280
01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:36.159
<v Speaker 3>of the stories had any kind of an owl in

1281
01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:38.960
<v Speaker 3>the woods that they saw that night. The only reason

1282
01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:41.079
<v Speaker 3>they're saying it is because the eyes might have been

1283
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:44.000
<v Speaker 3>glowing against the flashlight shine and the wings can do

1284
01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:46.280
<v Speaker 3>this shape, which is why they think that it was

1285
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:47.960
<v Speaker 3>the spade shape that was seen.

1286
01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:50.519
<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculous. And look at this. It even says it

1287
01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:55.719
<v Speaker 2>right here. The monstrous creature itself was most was most

1288
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:58.480
<v Speaker 2>likely to be an owl that was magnified due to

1289
01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:02.679
<v Speaker 2>the shadow. Yeah, okay, how do you magnify something with

1290
01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:04.320
<v Speaker 2>a shadow? Well, I mean, like go.

1291
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Shadow puppets, right, Like if I would have flashed, I hear,

1292
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:08.840
<v Speaker 3>my hands are this big, but against the big ass wall,

1293
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:13.199
<v Speaker 3>my fingers can look you know, thirty feet tall or whatever. Like, Okay,

1294
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I understand the idea here. But if it was a shadow,

1295
01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:19.199
<v Speaker 3>then how were the eyes glowing in a shadow?

1296
01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Ah? That's weird. So, according to Nickel, the perceptions of

1297
01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the witness were distorted due to their high level of anxiety.

1298
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:31.840
<v Speaker 3>All of them okay, all of them, yeah, the kids maybe,

1299
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:35.600
<v Speaker 3>the mom eh, the National guardsmen possibly, and all of

1300
01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:39.039
<v Speaker 3>them shared the exact same hallucination and anxiety and hysteria.

1301
01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So sure, such a high level of anxiety that,

1302
01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:47.920
<v Speaker 2>it says this explanation would certainly fit with the clawed

1303
01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:51.840
<v Speaker 2>hands and glowing eyes and the appearance of floating bro

1304
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I know, fear as a motherfucker. Fear be scary you know,

1305
01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:57.840
<v Speaker 2>but you know, as they say, the only thing to

1306
01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:00.319
<v Speaker 2>fear is fear itself, which I totally am on board with.

1307
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:03.520
<v Speaker 2>But to say that you are so scared that all

1308
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:08.680
<v Speaker 2>of you shared a hallucination of clawed hands, glowing eyes,

1309
01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and something floating off the ground, Dude, if you got

1310
01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:15.760
<v Speaker 2>one of those things, you know, similar with whatever the

1311
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:18.319
<v Speaker 2>other person that experience, you might be able to say

1312
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:21.720
<v Speaker 2>it's a hallucination. But maybe all of these things all

1313
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:24.319
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, they're all being able to describe it,

1314
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:28.479
<v Speaker 2>but it's all just a feared hallucination. Get the fuck

1315
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:29.159
<v Speaker 2>out of here.

1316
01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:33.119
<v Speaker 3>Smell the hissing, the sickness afterwards, and then the other

1317
01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:35.640
<v Speaker 3>couple that saw it, and then that other woman that.

1318
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Saw it, Like, what are we talking about here, dude?

1319
01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:43.279
<v Speaker 2>As an explanation, this seems reasonable, but other aspects of

1320
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:46.960
<v Speaker 2>the encounter are way less or less easy to explain.

1321
01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:49.880
<v Speaker 2>What caused the smell or the fireball clearly seen on

1322
01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:53.720
<v Speaker 2>the ground, and what then did the Snitzkowskis see in

1323
01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:56.359
<v Speaker 2>front of their car with a reptilian head that could

1324
01:09:56.399 --> 01:10:00.239
<v Speaker 2>not be mistaken for an owl? Yeah? Sorry, sorry, I

1325
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:02.079
<v Speaker 2>never looked at an owl and thought, oh that looks

1326
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:07.520
<v Speaker 2>like a lizard. Never in my life, two totally different creatures.

1327
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Very so it says whether the Flatwood Monster was real

1328
01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:14.960
<v Speaker 2>or not. It is left behind some legacies. A welcome

1329
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:18.079
<v Speaker 2>sign was erected by the Flatwood officials in which the

1330
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:22.079
<v Speaker 2>town was designated as home of the Green Monster. In

1331
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:25.680
<v Speaker 2>the town. The Flatwood Days Festival is also celebrated every

1332
01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:28.079
<v Speaker 2>year in the memory of the legend. A Flatwood Monster

1333
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Museum has also been established dedicated to the sightings. Oh

1334
01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:31.800
<v Speaker 2>that's cool.

1335
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:35.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the town has really leaned into it, you

1336
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:37.439
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. And they, of course maybe not

1337
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:40.239
<v Speaker 3>like Roswell in New Mexico. Of course they're going to

1338
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:41.079
<v Speaker 3>lean into it.

1339
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:44.439
<v Speaker 2>I loved Roswell too. Like Roswell, if anybody ever gets

1340
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:48.079
<v Speaker 2>the chance, if you love aliens and UFOs, Roswell is

1341
01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:53.279
<v Speaker 2>the coolest place because literally the entire town is alien

1342
01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:56.600
<v Speaker 2>and UFO centric. Like even in the McDonald's bro it's

1343
01:10:56.640 --> 01:11:00.359
<v Speaker 2>all aliens. Like it's it's crazy. They have like a

1344
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:03.199
<v Speaker 2>huge like alien statue writ in front of McDonald's, which

1345
01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:06.800
<v Speaker 2>is pretty fucking sweet. Uh is a alien Ronald McDonald?

1346
01:11:07.479 --> 01:11:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh No, No, it's just like a big, tall, metal

1347
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:16.119
<v Speaker 2>alien statue right on the McDonald's like property, that's legit

1348
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:17.960
<v Speaker 2>that you see like as soon as you walk in. Yeah,

1349
01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:19.920
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of the shops and shit, they have

1350
01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 2>like the the the lawn ornaments of you know, alien

1351
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:27.079
<v Speaker 2>creatures in the lawn. It's really fucking cool. And then

1352
01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:29.560
<v Speaker 2>you get you get to see like the Roswell Museum

1353
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:34.039
<v Speaker 2>and you know, all, dude, there's that museum was probably

1354
01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the coolest part of the entire trip because it shows

1355
01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:40.039
<v Speaker 2>all the documented articles and all the people sharing their

1356
01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:42.640
<v Speaker 2>story about what they had seen. The one, uh, there

1357
01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:45.039
<v Speaker 2>was one guy we talked about him, but there was

1358
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:47.720
<v Speaker 2>one guy that like made it his life's mission to

1359
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:51.880
<v Speaker 2>like prove what what was going on over at Area

1360
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:55.960
<v Speaker 2>fifty one and Roswell were absolutely real. Hell, like made

1361
01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.239
<v Speaker 2>his life. He believes it's so much he dedicate his

1362
01:11:58.239 --> 01:12:01.560
<v Speaker 2>fucking life to it. I mean why not. You're living

1363
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:05.960
<v Speaker 2>in Roswell, man, I mean you may as well. So Moreover,

1364
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:08.960
<v Speaker 2>the media in and beyond West Virginia seems to be

1365
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:12.199
<v Speaker 2>inspired by the Flatwood's Monster legend. A number of video

1366
01:12:12.279 --> 01:12:15.199
<v Speaker 2>games also contained some references to the legend of the

1367
01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Flatwood's Monster, and it has become something of a pop

1368
01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:20.960
<v Speaker 2>culture icon. It has been more than seventy years since

1369
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:23.640
<v Speaker 2>the incident, however, many people still say that they can

1370
01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:26.439
<v Speaker 2>smell something metallic in the air and hear the hissing

1371
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.960
<v Speaker 2>sound around September twelfth each year. The nineteen fifty two

1372
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:32.479
<v Speaker 2>incident has left a huge impact on the community in

1373
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:34.680
<v Speaker 2>this rural area.

1374
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Yes, indeed, okay, okay, cool. So we could see how

1375
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:44.399
<v Speaker 3>some bits of the story were starting to, ah well,

1376
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:49.000
<v Speaker 3>they were starting to shift a bit. The intentions were

1377
01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:52.119
<v Speaker 3>not lost by any means, but at the same time,

1378
01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:55.199
<v Speaker 3>certain things kind of didn't make it to the final cut.

1379
01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Like that first article we read brought up nothing of

1380
01:12:57.960 --> 01:13:00.680
<v Speaker 3>the people getting sick, which I think is kind of

1381
01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:04.039
<v Speaker 3>a big one, right, the foul smelling odor that the

1382
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:06.920
<v Speaker 3>couple in the car smelled and the people smell like

1383
01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:10.840
<v Speaker 3>that's that's kind of an identifying feature. Why wasn't it mentioned?

1384
01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:13.600
<v Speaker 3>So now we're gonna read this ranker article here, and

1385
01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:17.119
<v Speaker 3>it says in the title, whatever it is the flat

1386
01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Woods Monster West Virginia makes all who encounter it violently ill.

1387
01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Now that's a lot different than some nausea, some heads

1388
01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:27.720
<v Speaker 3>spinning in, some diarrhea, violently.

1389
01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Ill oh yeah, yeah. So it says when a group

1390
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:33.880
<v Speaker 2>of young friends investigated the crash, they ran a foul

1391
01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:37.520
<v Speaker 2>of the strange creature that put off a noxious fog

1392
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:40.239
<v Speaker 2>before chasing them through the forest. The flat Woods Monster

1393
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:42.720
<v Speaker 2>is definitely one of the strangest urban legends from West Virginia,

1394
01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and it has a lot of moving parts. The facts

1395
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:47.960
<v Speaker 2>about West Virginia's flat Woods Monster aren't cut and dry,

1396
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:52.560
<v Speaker 2>and like many stories of close encounters of the third kinds,

1397
01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:55.359
<v Speaker 2>it comes with a lot of ifs, ands and butts.

1398
01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:57.880
<v Speaker 2>The creature that landed in West Virginia is one of

1399
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:00.640
<v Speaker 2>many monsters that make people sick, but the reasons why

1400
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:05.359
<v Speaker 2>are still contentious among medical professionals and UFO investigators. Was

1401
01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:08.479
<v Speaker 2>the Flatwoods Monster a hoax, a mass hallucination or was

1402
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:11.000
<v Speaker 2>it a creature from beyond the stars that just felt

1403
01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:13.840
<v Speaker 2>like stirring up some trouble, Which is interesting if you

1404
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:17.000
<v Speaker 2>think about it, Like, you know, the the the government,

1405
01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:20.760
<v Speaker 2>especially around that time, was was doing a lot of

1406
01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:26.520
<v Speaker 2>like military operations testing certain what was it that they

1407
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:29.560
<v Speaker 2>gave like the what was it it was?

1408
01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:31.960
<v Speaker 3>I forget what the sickness itself was. They were spraying

1409
01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:33.640
<v Speaker 3>that pink mold all over the place.

1410
01:14:34.239 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and so and then there was like the

1411
01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:40.039
<v Speaker 2>what was it like the fucking the crabs blankets or

1412
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:42.520
<v Speaker 2>gone rhea smallpox blankets.

1413
01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh that was in the eighteen hundred to the

1414
01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Native Americans though, but for sure, for.

1415
01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, yeah, And so I don't know, it could

1416
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:54.560
<v Speaker 2>be just something like that that maybe there are people

1417
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:58.720
<v Speaker 2>that are reacting to whatever the government is testing on

1418
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:03.239
<v Speaker 2>that area, right, like that could be a solution, it

1419
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:03.640
<v Speaker 2>could be.

1420
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:09.119
<v Speaker 3>But also wanting to point out a noxious fog that

1421
01:15:09.159 --> 01:15:11.640
<v Speaker 3>wasn't brought up in any of the other articles before

1422
01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:15.399
<v Speaker 3>chasing them through the forest. Nowhere have we read that

1423
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:17.920
<v Speaker 3>the monster chased them. They got scared and ran away,

1424
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Nothing about the monster chasing them, right, So you could

1425
01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:24.359
<v Speaker 3>see what I mean. The articles, depending on who's writing it,

1426
01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:26.800
<v Speaker 3>depending on the sources, they start to shift a bit.

1427
01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:31.119
<v Speaker 3>The monster being seen, the descriptions that was given. That's

1428
01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:34.079
<v Speaker 3>clear that that's not changing. We have read the one

1429
01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:36.079
<v Speaker 3>thing about orange eyes. That's like the only time where

1430
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:39.119
<v Speaker 3>the description has changed. The claws, the metal dress, the

1431
01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:41.039
<v Speaker 3>spade head or the reptilian head.

1432
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:41.439
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

1433
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:44.159
<v Speaker 3>Now all of a sudden, it's not only just hissing

1434
01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:46.800
<v Speaker 3>at them. It's chasing them, and it produced its own

1435
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:49.399
<v Speaker 3>noxious fog gas that made them violently ill.

1436
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:56.520
<v Speaker 2>So okay, So the Flatwood's monster appearance is pure nightmare

1437
01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of fuel. The description of the many of many cryptids

1438
01:15:59.880 --> 01:16:02.760
<v Speaker 2>to ends to vary between retellings, but stories about the

1439
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Flatwood's Monster rarely changes its look. Witnesses have described the

1440
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.520
<v Speaker 2>monster as being towering and around seven feet tall, with

1441
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:13.880
<v Speaker 2>a black body and a dark glowing face, surrounded by

1442
01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:17.560
<v Speaker 2>a pointed hoodlike shape. So from ten foot tall to

1443
01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:21.159
<v Speaker 2>now seven foot tall? Yeah, I think I would know

1444
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:24.039
<v Speaker 2>the difference between ten and seven feet though, you know,

1445
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:25.119
<v Speaker 2>or saying.

1446
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Like the head is seven and the rest of the

1447
01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:28.319
<v Speaker 3>point of the spade makes it ten.

1448
01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, yeah, could be that hoodlike shape. Many

1449
01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:38.119
<v Speaker 2>people describe the creature's eyes as shining like an animal's

1450
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:40.920
<v Speaker 2>in the darkness, which many people have taken to mean

1451
01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:44.399
<v Speaker 2>that the creature has an owl like head. The monster's

1452
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:47.520
<v Speaker 2>body allegedly has a series of folds that ripple across

1453
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:50.600
<v Speaker 2>its torso down toward its feet. Some witnesses have said

1454
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:53.560
<v Speaker 2>that the creature has gnarled claws that lash outed people

1455
01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:56.800
<v Speaker 2>from its branch like arms. It's likely that the creature's

1456
01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:59.640
<v Speaker 2>color isn't actually black, but a dark green or brown

1457
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:02.560
<v Speaker 2>that's given a colorless look once removed from a light source.

1458
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Some witnesses to the monster added a robotic dress or

1459
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:09.800
<v Speaker 2>ship to its bottom half, giving it a kind of

1460
01:17:10.600 --> 01:17:15.399
<v Speaker 2>sonic the hedgehog villain vibe. I get that, I do.

1461
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:19.399
<v Speaker 3>However, Okay, you know, like a green or brown, how

1462
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:21.039
<v Speaker 3>they get dark with no light?

1463
01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Bro name a color that doesn't get dark and no

1464
01:17:23.359 --> 01:17:26.800
<v Speaker 2>light that you could literally say that for any color.

1465
01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, And you see what I'm saying, Like, Oh,

1466
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:34.359
<v Speaker 3>the creature's eyes shine, giving it an owl like head. Okay,

1467
01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:37.760
<v Speaker 3>how many creatures whenever you shine a flashlight in their

1468
01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:39.880
<v Speaker 3>eyes in the woods shine back at you.

1469
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:43.439
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you a hint most of them. And also,

1470
01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:46.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, whenever I think of an owl, like, one

1471
01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:49.319
<v Speaker 2>of the most distinguishing feature features is on an owl

1472
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:52.600
<v Speaker 2>outside of its eyes are the pointed ears. Yeah, you know,

1473
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:56.880
<v Speaker 2>like the batman like ears. There's no ears on this thing. None.

1474
01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:00.720
<v Speaker 3>It's a spade pointed hood thing. You don't see pointed

1475
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:03.319
<v Speaker 3>ears like an owl. So I'm with you one hundred percent.

1476
01:18:03.600 --> 01:18:05.880
<v Speaker 2>So it says being in the presence of the Flatwood's

1477
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Monster causes nausea and convulsing, So everyone who's had the

1478
01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:12.760
<v Speaker 2>poor luck to run into the Flatwood's Monster has experienced

1479
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:16.239
<v Speaker 2>the same physical symptoms to varying degrees. Some of them

1480
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:19.520
<v Speaker 2>deal with throat and nose irritation, while other people who

1481
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:24.239
<v Speaker 2>were in the vicinity began vomitating and convulsing. Weeks after

1482
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:26.399
<v Speaker 2>the event, one of the boys in the group, gene Lemon,

1483
01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:29.159
<v Speaker 2>was still unable to swallow liquids because of the irritation.

1484
01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:32.159
<v Speaker 2>A doctor who examined the group said that their ailments

1485
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:35.840
<v Speaker 2>were similar to those suffered by soldiers who encountered mustard gas.

1486
01:18:36.439 --> 01:18:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, what was it that? What did they always say?

1487
01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:48.239
<v Speaker 2>The kissing disease? Oh? Mono mono, I mean, mano would

1488
01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:51.000
<v Speaker 2>probably cause similar things. Right now.

1489
01:18:51.079 --> 01:18:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Mono makes you just like super sick and weak. And

1490
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't even I don't know personally if it makes

1491
01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:57.199
<v Speaker 3>you puke and shit a bunch or if it just

1492
01:18:57.279 --> 01:18:59.800
<v Speaker 3>kills your appetite, makes you like super sick. I've only

1493
01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.359
<v Speaker 3>known one person to get mono. She was a chick

1494
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:05.119
<v Speaker 3>in high school and she was like I would say,

1495
01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:08.680
<v Speaker 3>objectively hot, and like was thick and then she no

1496
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:10.880
<v Speaker 3>only thick like I mean she was, she had curves

1497
01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:13.359
<v Speaker 3>to her right. She catches mono, She goes away for

1498
01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:15.479
<v Speaker 3>like thirteen months, and she comes back looking like a

1499
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:18.640
<v Speaker 3>fucking twig, like that mono smacked her.

1500
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, I know. It was going around a lot.

1501
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Whenever I was living in Pennsylvania, everybody was getting mono.

1502
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.680
<v Speaker 2>It was like everybody in my grade had it. Cause yeah, yeah,

1503
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:29.239
<v Speaker 2>it was like uh like it was like you know

1504
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:32.319
<v Speaker 2>how everybody whenever people get sick. Nowadays it's like, oh,

1505
01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:35.800
<v Speaker 2>you got COVID, right, Yeah. Back then, it was just

1506
01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:42.000
<v Speaker 2>understood that, especially like kid age people, it was mono. Man.

1507
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:44.279
<v Speaker 3>I see, we never really had that big outbreak of

1508
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:46.239
<v Speaker 3>it growing up in Louisiana.

1509
01:19:46.279 --> 01:19:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Man, it could have just been a misunderstanding. I don't know.

1510
01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, at least at least that's what the school

1511
01:19:51.800 --> 01:19:54.520
<v Speaker 2>nurses were telling us. Anyway, I mean maybe it was.

1512
01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe that was like an advanced case.

1513
01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Also, like maybe there's like lighter cases of mono or

1514
01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:02.479
<v Speaker 3>something like that. But if your boy is having issues

1515
01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:05.520
<v Speaker 3>swallowing food, maybe like some streped throat type of situation. Okay,

1516
01:20:05.600 --> 01:20:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I could see this with you but the nausea, all

1517
01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:10.840
<v Speaker 3>this other stuff with it. They're saying it was like

1518
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:13.680
<v Speaker 3>the effects of mustard gas. We haven't heard that from

1519
01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:16.039
<v Speaker 3>any earlier reports yet, so that's next level.

1520
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:18.720
<v Speaker 2>So a doctor also noted that the effects are the

1521
01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:21.399
<v Speaker 2>same as people who are suffering from hysteria. But the

1522
01:20:21.640 --> 01:20:26.720
<v Speaker 2>claim somehow sign sounds even more ridiculous than a group

1523
01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:29.319
<v Speaker 2>of people seeing a horrific owl creature in the woods.

1524
01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Many alien abductees have had similar symptoms to the people

1525
01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:35.880
<v Speaker 2>who saw the Flatwood's Monster, which points towards the creature

1526
01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:40.279
<v Speaker 2>being from another planet or dimension. Let's go, baby, let's go.

1527
01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so there is an ominous myths that follows the creature,

1528
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:47.159
<v Speaker 2>it says. Stories of the flat Woods Monster note that

1529
01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:51.399
<v Speaker 2>the fireball or meteor like object proceed its appearance, but

1530
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:54.880
<v Speaker 2>what happens after the creature begins stalking through the woods?

1531
01:20:55.319 --> 01:21:00.520
<v Speaker 2>It one all over the place there. In its first

1532
01:21:00.640 --> 01:21:03.039
<v Speaker 2>reported appearance, the boys who saw the creature noted that

1533
01:21:03.159 --> 01:21:06.039
<v Speaker 2>a foul odor and a heavy miss seemed to emanate

1534
01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:08.960
<v Speaker 2>from the monster. Two of the boys were allegedly sprayed

1535
01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:11.039
<v Speaker 2>in the face by the smoke that seemed to come

1536
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:13.760
<v Speaker 2>from within the folds of the monster's body.

1537
01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Haven't heard that anywhere else but this article. And I'm

1538
01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:19.880
<v Speaker 3>not saying that makes this fake. I'm saying, why wasn't

1539
01:21:19.880 --> 01:21:20.880
<v Speaker 3>that reported.

1540
01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Other places sprayed in the face by a smoke that

1541
01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:29.640
<v Speaker 2>came from folds on them? First of all, what does

1542
01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:31.800
<v Speaker 2>it even mean? The folds? Are we talking about like

1543
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:34.319
<v Speaker 2>like a gill like thing that you know?

1544
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:37.760
<v Speaker 3>It's like it says, a metal dress, right, whatever it's

1545
01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:40.520
<v Speaker 3>wearing has like folds in it, like creases if you will.

1546
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Ew. That's fucking strange, dude. As the night went on,

1547
01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the mist grew into a heavy fog that settled across

1548
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the countryside. After the boys were sprayed with the mist

1549
01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:55.439
<v Speaker 2>made it home, they noticed that their faces were covered

1550
01:21:55.479 --> 01:21:58.760
<v Speaker 2>with an oily residue. Their throats swelled up so much

1551
01:21:58.760 --> 01:22:03.359
<v Speaker 2>that they couldn't drink liquids for two weeks. The way

1552
01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:09.920
<v Speaker 2>oily residue die. Well, I mean, clearly they're hallucinating because

1553
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:12.760
<v Speaker 2>they have a fucking oily residue on them.

1554
01:22:13.079 --> 01:22:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Clearly they're hallucinating that they couldn't drink water for two weeks.

1555
01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Which also, how did they not die?

1556
01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:21.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know, Well, it probably it was probably

1557
01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:23.880
<v Speaker 3>starting IVS in nineteen forty eight.

1558
01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, it was probably just like hard for them, not

1559
01:22:26.399 --> 01:22:29.079
<v Speaker 2>that they couldn't. I don't That's what I'm saying.

1560
01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Man, I don't know how much of this is like

1561
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:32.960
<v Speaker 3>creative liberties, how much of this is true to the facts.

1562
01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:35.520
<v Speaker 3>None of the other articles he read said anything about

1563
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:38.159
<v Speaker 3>boys getting sprayed with oily substance, But that doesn't mean

1564
01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:39.880
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't something that happened.

1565
01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe those are things that were omitted from other stories.

1566
01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:44.880
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like, you know, whenever you get sick

1567
01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:46.640
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh, dude, I can't even get up

1568
01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:49.079
<v Speaker 2>out of bed. I mean you can, It's just hard,

1569
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of right, right, So, the Flatwood's Monster has been

1570
01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:56.039
<v Speaker 2>around for a long time. It says the Flatwood's Monster

1571
01:22:56.880 --> 01:22:59.960
<v Speaker 2>first entered into the public consciousness in nineteen fifty two

1572
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:03.000
<v Speaker 2>after a group of children aged ten to seventeen that

1573
01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:05.560
<v Speaker 2>included brothers Edward and fred May chased a ball of

1574
01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:07.359
<v Speaker 2>fire that fell from the sky into the hills of

1575
01:23:07.399 --> 01:23:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Braxon County. They allegedly followed the ball of fire slash

1576
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Ufo into the hills and ran into the creature before

1577
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:17.039
<v Speaker 2>high tailing it out of there. When the local sheriff

1578
01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:19.439
<v Speaker 2>began to investigate the sighting. He learned that there had

1579
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:23.760
<v Speaker 2>been numerous sightings of the creature prior to the sighting

1580
01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:27.880
<v Speaker 2>by the May children. It could be that the Flatwood's

1581
01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Monster was actually an extraterrestrial that landed in the area

1582
01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:33.840
<v Speaker 2>to do research, or it could be an inter dimensional

1583
01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:38.079
<v Speaker 2>cryptid similar to sasquatch. Either way, there's something in Braxton County,

1584
01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:43.479
<v Speaker 2>West Virginia that draws the creature to its dark woods. Okay,

1585
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:46.920
<v Speaker 2>so the monster made a second appearance hours after the

1586
01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:50.000
<v Speaker 2>first recorded encounter. A few hours after the May brothers

1587
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.199
<v Speaker 2>and their friends ran into the creature in the woods,

1588
01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:56.960
<v Speaker 2>another group had the unlucky distinction of meeting the Flatwood's Monster. Allegedly,

1589
01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:59.720
<v Speaker 2>a couple and their infant were driving down the highway

1590
01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:02.239
<v Speaker 2>when their car mysteriously broke down. The husband got out

1591
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:04.720
<v Speaker 2>of the car and immediately knew something was off, he claimed.

1592
01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:08.119
<v Speaker 2>He later claimed to feel a low level jolt of

1593
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:10.680
<v Speaker 2>electricity moved through his body and that's when he spelled

1594
01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>the noxious smell that surrounded the monster. The husband and

1595
01:24:14.520 --> 01:24:17.479
<v Speaker 2>wife claimed that they saw a large reptilian creature floating

1596
01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:20.039
<v Speaker 2>across the highway and that it paid them little to

1597
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:24.159
<v Speaker 2>no attention. It's telling that the that the monster didn't

1598
01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:27.399
<v Speaker 2>seem to be malicious in this instance. It's almost like

1599
01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:33.319
<v Speaker 2>it's it's almost like, uh, it's almost like it the monster. Oh,

1600
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:35.800
<v Speaker 2>that sentence didn't make any sense. It's almost like the

1601
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:38.199
<v Speaker 2>monster acts like a wild animal and only attacks when

1602
01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it feels threatened.

1603
01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Now, this is a little different from the story we

1604
01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:44.359
<v Speaker 3>heard that their car was broke down, this monster touched

1605
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:46.079
<v Speaker 3>it and it magically started back up.

1606
01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:48.720
<v Speaker 2>This says that it floated in the air and paid

1607
01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:52.000
<v Speaker 2>them little to no mind. So again, well, and this

1608
01:24:52.039 --> 01:24:55.640
<v Speaker 2>is the magic. This is the magic of myth, well,

1609
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:58.359
<v Speaker 2>the magic of myth and legend, you know, because there's

1610
01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:02.479
<v Speaker 2>always I mean, dude, any time, dude, even just bigfoot.

1611
01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:03.239
<v Speaker 4>Right.

1612
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Some people believe it's interdimensional, some people believe it's physical.

1613
01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Some people believe it's both, you know, like.

1614
01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:10.560
<v Speaker 3>If it's an angelic source, some people believe it's a

1615
01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:12.079
<v Speaker 3>nephylimic and demonic source.

1616
01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, right, I mean, and also imagine like

1617
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:18.119
<v Speaker 2>the people that are documenting like elves and fairies and

1618
01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:20.640
<v Speaker 2>shit like that. It's like, well, and that's why they

1619
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:22.479
<v Speaker 2>have to, you know, come up with all these different

1620
01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:24.840
<v Speaker 2>names of all the different elves and fairies and shit

1621
01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:28.319
<v Speaker 2>like that, like the Brownie the elf kind of situation

1622
01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:30.119
<v Speaker 2>like that one he just wants to make sure your

1623
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>house ain't too clean and not too dirty, you know

1624
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:34.680
<v Speaker 2>it kind of thing. And it's like they always have

1625
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:37.680
<v Speaker 2>like all these different characteristics about them. But it's not

1626
01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:40.159
<v Speaker 2>to say that these people are full of shit, you know.

1627
01:25:40.319 --> 01:25:45.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just that different people experience different things. And I

1628
01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:48.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to do with this Flatwoods fucking monster.

1629
01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:53.119
<v Speaker 2>But it says the Flatwood's Monster might be a robot spy.

1630
01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Of course, because we had robots in nineteen forty eight, but.

1631
01:25:57.239 --> 01:26:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Again did we So Throughout various descriptions of the flat

1632
01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:05.479
<v Speaker 2>Woods Monster, there are vague mentions of a metallic suit

1633
01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:09.720
<v Speaker 2>worn by the creature. Actually, metallic suit is too descriptive.

1634
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Some witnesses don't mention metal of any sort, so and

1635
01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>some say that the creature was a reptilian head sticking

1636
01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:19.239
<v Speaker 2>out of a metal saucer like object, and a few

1637
01:26:19.279 --> 01:26:23.920
<v Speaker 2>researchers believe that it was an extraterrestrial biological entity wearing

1638
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:27.640
<v Speaker 2>a hazardous material protective device. One witness to the original

1639
01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:31.079
<v Speaker 2>siting claims that the monster wasn't actually an organic being

1640
01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:37.039
<v Speaker 2>but a hovering mechanical shell. Here we go, that's a witness.

1641
01:26:37.520 --> 01:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>That's somebody that saw it, you know, And oh man,

1642
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:45.239
<v Speaker 2>all right, so this is seeming like gray alien droid vibes.

1643
01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:47.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, they always say the grays are not like

1644
01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:53.359
<v Speaker 2>they're just like biological droid things. All right. So it

1645
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:56.920
<v Speaker 2>says if the monster was a robot or android, it

1646
01:26:56.960 --> 01:27:00.920
<v Speaker 2>may have been doing reconnaissance work for whom ever created it.

1647
01:27:01.159 --> 01:27:05.319
<v Speaker 2>In this case, whomever created the robot obviously wasn't worried

1648
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>about stealth. I mean, and who's to say that it's

1649
01:27:09.399 --> 01:27:13.079
<v Speaker 2>not like some kind of reconnaissance thing that was going

1650
01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:17.479
<v Speaker 2>on from another planet, another dimension or something like that.

1651
01:27:17.479 --> 01:27:21.520
<v Speaker 2>That's that seems a little bit more likely to But

1652
01:27:22.199 --> 01:27:25.279
<v Speaker 2>I think that, you know, the government and the military

1653
01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:27.560
<v Speaker 2>whatever is not going to be sending out a fucking

1654
01:27:27.760 --> 01:27:30.199
<v Speaker 2>robot for this. I mean, if you're gonna send out

1655
01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:34.920
<v Speaker 2>a robot, you're not gonna necessarily give it like human features, right, Like,

1656
01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:37.920
<v Speaker 2>why would you do that if it's just a reconnaissance mission?

1657
01:27:38.399 --> 01:27:40.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean, in nineteen forty eight, I mean, I know

1658
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Thailand just right now has the world's first AI powered RoboCop.

1659
01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Dude, that thing is fucking wild.

1660
01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:52.840
<v Speaker 3>But that only came about in twenty twenty five, nineteen

1661
01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:53.560
<v Speaker 3>forty eight.

1662
01:27:54.199 --> 01:27:56.159
<v Speaker 2>I would I don't know this for a fact.

1663
01:27:56.159 --> 01:27:58.560
<v Speaker 3>I know people are gonna say, uh, well, they have

1664
01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:01.039
<v Speaker 3>technology they'd never let us see, which I agree. I

1665
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:04.960
<v Speaker 3>get that they didn't have this type of robot back then. Hell,

1666
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:06.760
<v Speaker 3>the Jetsons weren't even on TV at.

1667
01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>This point, do do do Do you see what I'm saying?

1668
01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean not like most homes had a television

1669
01:28:12.359 --> 01:28:14.079
<v Speaker 3>in them, right, most people were fucking around with the

1670
01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:16.119
<v Speaker 3>family radio program.

1671
01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:16.399
<v Speaker 2>Right.

1672
01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:18.960
<v Speaker 3>But Like my point is, I think it's a little

1673
01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:21.960
<v Speaker 3>early to say that America is trying and testing out

1674
01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:23.800
<v Speaker 3>a new robot.

1675
01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think that that's likely.

1676
01:28:27.800 --> 01:28:31.520
<v Speaker 3>But to your point, could this be a scouting drone

1677
01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:35.960
<v Speaker 3>of some type from an entity from another dimension, another planet,

1678
01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:40.159
<v Speaker 3>another whatever, and it was robotic in nature but it

1679
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:42.159
<v Speaker 3>was made to look a certain way to kind of

1680
01:28:42.159 --> 01:28:43.199
<v Speaker 3>hopefully blend in.

1681
01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could see that. I mean, look, we a lot,

1682
01:28:46.319 --> 01:28:52.279
<v Speaker 2>but okay, we allegedly send robot scouts to other planets. Yeah,

1683
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:55.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, right, Like there's there's no kind of so

1684
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>it's possibility.

1685
01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:01.359
<v Speaker 3>Rover, but that's more like a a golf cart looking

1686
01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:06.119
<v Speaker 3>or golf cart just a car looking drone. But I mean,

1687
01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:09.479
<v Speaker 3>how do we know what the aliens think a drone

1688
01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:10.119
<v Speaker 3>should look like?

1689
01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:14.479
<v Speaker 2>You know? Well, it says the government tried to cover

1690
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>up the monster. It says people with interest in the

1691
01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Flatwood's monster can argue themselves to sleep about what the

1692
01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>monster actually is. Is it an alien, a cryptid, an

1693
01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>interdimensional traveler? All three? No one is going to ever,

1694
01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>No one is ever going to come up with a

1695
01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>definitive answer. But the one thing that's undeniable is that

1696
01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:34.319
<v Speaker 2>the government is absolutely aware about what happened in West

1697
01:29:34.399 --> 01:29:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Virginia in nineteen fifty two. The entire town saw something

1698
01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>fly across the sky on the night of the sighting

1699
01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:41.960
<v Speaker 2>of the monster, and there are different theories about what

1700
01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:44.399
<v Speaker 2>it was. Most people believe it was a meteor, but

1701
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:46.479
<v Speaker 2>there are a few folks that think that the UFO

1702
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:49.600
<v Speaker 2>was actually a military craft that landed in the hillside.

1703
01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Before his death, Major Keiho, a former Marine Corps naval aviator,

1704
01:29:54.920 --> 01:29:57.800
<v Speaker 2>claimed that the Air Force sent two military investigators to

1705
01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Flatwoods under the guys as journalists research the UFO. They

1706
01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:04.600
<v Speaker 2>determined that the UFO was actually a meteor that only

1707
01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:09.159
<v Speaker 2>gave the impression of a landing, Right, So why would

1708
01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:14.279
<v Speaker 2>you fucking send governments out there to disguise themselves as reporters?

1709
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Ah yeah, dude, dude. Here's the thing, and this is

1710
01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>where it gets really weird, where it gets really strange,

1711
01:30:20.680 --> 01:30:23.279
<v Speaker 2>is is that you had local police that were writing

1712
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:25.359
<v Speaker 2>it off. So how did the story get all the

1713
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:28.680
<v Speaker 2>way up? You know what I'm saying, Like, how did

1714
01:30:29.039 --> 01:30:30.880
<v Speaker 2>it was such a big deal that you had to

1715
01:30:30.920 --> 01:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>go undercover as a as a researcher to try and

1716
01:30:34.800 --> 01:30:37.159
<v Speaker 2>understand what was going on. Why would the government be

1717
01:30:37.279 --> 01:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>interested in something that the local police laughed off? Why

1718
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:43.199
<v Speaker 2>would they do that? That's what I'm saying. None of

1719
01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:47.359
<v Speaker 2>that checks out. So the creature may have been a

1720
01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:51.000
<v Speaker 2>barn owl. These are all the These are all the possibilities.

1721
01:30:51.039 --> 01:30:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, a barn owl in the middle of the woods,

1722
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:56.119
<v Speaker 3>because that's where barn owls live.

1723
01:30:56.119 --> 01:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, I mean, I imagine barn owls existed before

1724
01:30:59.079 --> 01:31:01.479
<v Speaker 2>barnes did. There's a reason.

1725
01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:04.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, fair, fair, but it's not like a wild

1726
01:31:04.039 --> 01:31:05.800
<v Speaker 3>owl is not the same as a barn owl. Like

1727
01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:08.319
<v Speaker 3>they're different breeds.

1728
01:31:08.359 --> 01:31:10.600
<v Speaker 2>So cool, dude, I love owls. They're fucking awesome looking.

1729
01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Sorry you drinking from a hofbro House glass over there, sir,

1730
01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>m shout out. I went there in Germany, was sick.

1731
01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:20.279
<v Speaker 2>It was the only place I wasn't allowed to drink

1732
01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:22.560
<v Speaker 2>alcohol as a fourteen year old. By the way, like,

1733
01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:24.479
<v Speaker 2>so half bra, get your shit together and get with

1734
01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the rest of Germany that allows everybody to drink. It's

1735
01:31:27.399 --> 01:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>on my list, dude. I want to go to Germany

1736
01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:30.319
<v Speaker 2>one of these days. I would love to go back

1737
01:31:30.359 --> 01:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>to Paris. I want to go to Rome. I want

1738
01:31:31.840 --> 01:31:34.319
<v Speaker 2>to go to Jerusalem. I got all kinds of place

1739
01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I want to visit sooner or later. So the creature

1740
01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>may have been a barn owl, let's see. As cool

1741
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:42.479
<v Speaker 2>as it would be to have to have been an alien,

1742
01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:45.279
<v Speaker 2>a robot, a cryptid thing invading West Virginia, the truth

1743
01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:47.199
<v Speaker 2>of the matter is that the flat Woods monster may

1744
01:31:47.239 --> 01:31:49.279
<v Speaker 2>have just been a figment of the imagination of a

1745
01:31:49.279 --> 01:31:52.159
<v Speaker 2>bunch of freaked out kids the wet blankets over the

1746
01:31:52.159 --> 01:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>CSI Core deduced that the kids saw an alien because

1747
01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:00.239
<v Speaker 2>that's what they wanted, or what they assumed they should see.

1748
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:03.159
<v Speaker 2>The may brothers followed a UFO into the woods, smelled

1749
01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:05.439
<v Speaker 2>something horrible, and saw a bunch of smoke. So it

1750
01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:09.000
<v Speaker 2>tracks that they could or that they would see an alien. However,

1751
01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:13.199
<v Speaker 2>it is most likely that they disturbed a barn owl

1752
01:32:13.279 --> 01:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>that shrieked at them and flew off into the night

1753
01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:19.960
<v Speaker 2>from the children's From there, the children's story spread and

1754
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:22.520
<v Speaker 2>served as the basis for the myth of the Flatwood's monster.

1755
01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Didn't they say that it hissed? Yeah, owls ain't hissing.

1756
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.359
<v Speaker 3>So in this same article it said it hissed, it

1757
01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:33.840
<v Speaker 3>sprayed them with the oil, they got sick from it violently.

1758
01:32:33.960 --> 01:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Ill was the title of this article, I might add.

1759
01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:39.279
<v Speaker 3>And then out of nowhere, Oh, it was just a

1760
01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:42.199
<v Speaker 3>barn owl, and it was just from these kids. Never

1761
01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:44.640
<v Speaker 3>mind the couple in what they saw, never mind the

1762
01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:46.439
<v Speaker 3>woman and her friends cutting through the woods to go

1763
01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:47.760
<v Speaker 3>to the store that saw what they saw.

1764
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:51.479
<v Speaker 2>These things are just whatever, of course, Devil's advocate. Devil's

1765
01:32:51.520 --> 01:32:57.159
<v Speaker 2>advocate here. It is possible, unlikely, I believe, but you

1766
01:32:57.199 --> 01:33:01.279
<v Speaker 2>could make a case for the placebo effect here, because

1767
01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:06.479
<v Speaker 2>if these kids were so scared that they almost cause

1768
01:33:07.439 --> 01:33:12.079
<v Speaker 2>a disruption within their own hormones, within their own chemical makeup,

1769
01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:15.479
<v Speaker 2>and they saw one of their buddies getting sick, and

1770
01:33:15.520 --> 01:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>they thought that that was inevitably coming to them. That

1771
01:33:18.079 --> 01:33:21.319
<v Speaker 2>you could manifest that in your body. If I'm thinking

1772
01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:29.039
<v Speaker 2>like broad here, like you could possibly make I don't know,

1773
01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's probably far fetched to think that, but

1774
01:33:32.239 --> 01:33:35.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm just throwing out a possibility here that one kid

1775
01:33:35.560 --> 01:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>saw the other. They were all terrified. They were all

1776
01:33:37.760 --> 01:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>fearful that they came in contact with some kind of

1777
01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>alien and that they could have been sprayed with something,

1778
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and so it would cause them to convulse. And you know,

1779
01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:50.159
<v Speaker 2>little kids like they don't just believe something they incorporated

1780
01:33:50.319 --> 01:33:54.279
<v Speaker 2>into their being, like that is what's going on, right,

1781
01:33:54.439 --> 01:33:57.840
<v Speaker 2>So and they're not in the National Guard kid and

1782
01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>the couple too, that's like, yeah, yeah, that's that's where

1783
01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:04.039
<v Speaker 2>that's where that falls apart.

1784
01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:06.520
<v Speaker 3>If this was two kids that were in the woods,

1785
01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:08.840
<v Speaker 3>saw some ship that they got scared of, went home

1786
01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:10.560
<v Speaker 3>and told their mom, and that's what got big.

1787
01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you for sure.

1788
01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:16.600
<v Speaker 3>This massive I'm saying massive group, but a group of

1789
01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:20.640
<v Speaker 3>people all seeing it, experiencing the exact same thing. A couple,

1790
01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:23.600
<v Speaker 3>the girl, all of it within the same evening. But

1791
01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:25.880
<v Speaker 3>this thing jumped because it wasn't like in the same

1792
01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:28.279
<v Speaker 3>spot in the woods. So is it possible that that

1793
01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.920
<v Speaker 3>ball of fire was it stepping into an out of

1794
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:35.279
<v Speaker 3>a portal? Any that whole crash thing that wasn't a

1795
01:34:35.319 --> 01:34:37.880
<v Speaker 3>craft in reality? Is that what it looks like when

1796
01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:39.880
<v Speaker 3>you tear a hole through time and space to jump

1797
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:40.960
<v Speaker 3>from point A to point B.

1798
01:34:42.720 --> 01:34:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Anything's possible. And I do want to make mention here

1799
01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:47.840
<v Speaker 2>just because we are talking about fire, and we were

1800
01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:51.039
<v Speaker 2>talking about things that transpired after the fire. You know,

1801
01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:55.279
<v Speaker 2>whether it's a glowing orb of fire or whatever, it is.

1802
01:34:56.920 --> 01:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>The idea so within like within magic and witchcraft and

1803
01:35:01.039 --> 01:35:03.439
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, what they a lot of people do

1804
01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:06.159
<v Speaker 2>is they practice candle magic. And the idea is to

1805
01:35:06.239 --> 01:35:09.239
<v Speaker 2>stare into the flame and reduce all of your thoughts

1806
01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:13.399
<v Speaker 2>down to one specific thought, and it'll basically force you

1807
01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:17.079
<v Speaker 2>to go into this trance. And so by staring at

1808
01:35:17.079 --> 01:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>a flame for too long, you'll go into a trance.

1809
01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:21.439
<v Speaker 2>That's why whenever you're like sitting around a bonfire, everybody

1810
01:35:21.479 --> 01:35:23.920
<v Speaker 2>is just staring deeply into the flame of the fire

1811
01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:27.159
<v Speaker 2>right like it's like it's like mesmerizing, and that's actually

1812
01:35:27.159 --> 01:35:30.079
<v Speaker 2>what it's doing. It's mesmerizing your mind. It's putting you

1813
01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:33.600
<v Speaker 2>into a trance state. And so could it be that

1814
01:35:33.640 --> 01:35:36.159
<v Speaker 2>the fire ball that they were seeing was putting them

1815
01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:38.920
<v Speaker 2>into a trance like state that allowed them to see

1816
01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:41.720
<v Speaker 2>some interdimensional shit? I don't know. I'm just thinking outside

1817
01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:45.359
<v Speaker 2>the box here, and okay, let's let's go down that path. Right.

1818
01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:47.279
<v Speaker 3>Every one of them said they saw the ball of

1819
01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:49.359
<v Speaker 3>fire and then when they looked back it was gone.

1820
01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:52.119
<v Speaker 2>And then and then it transformed into this creature.

1821
01:35:52.920 --> 01:35:55.279
<v Speaker 3>All they don't say it transformed. All they're saying is

1822
01:35:55.319 --> 01:35:58.119
<v Speaker 3>that they saw ballifire. When they investigated further, the creature

1823
01:35:58.199 --> 01:35:59.760
<v Speaker 3>was there. So that's what I'm saying.

1824
01:35:59.840 --> 01:36:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it possible that that's a.

1825
01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:06.720
<v Speaker 3>Portal opening and maybe a fourth dimensional entity opening a

1826
01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:09.119
<v Speaker 3>portal to step into the three D world? Because fire

1827
01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:11.960
<v Speaker 3>is a reaction, right, Fire is not like a substance.

1828
01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.039
<v Speaker 3>You can't have a cup of fire, you know what

1829
01:36:14.039 --> 01:36:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean. It's a it's a thing that can burn,

1830
01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:19.560
<v Speaker 3>and fire is a byproduct of the burning. So is

1831
01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:22.199
<v Speaker 3>that what it looks like? Possibly when a portal opens up,

1832
01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:25.720
<v Speaker 3>was it a craft that kept crashing and crashing and

1833
01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:27.439
<v Speaker 3>crashing because he was trying to get back up in

1834
01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:28.119
<v Speaker 3>the air and he had.

1835
01:36:28.039 --> 01:36:29.840
<v Speaker 2>A couple of fuck ups on the on the way.

1836
01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but every time they saw the big

1837
01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:35.079
<v Speaker 3>ball of fire, they look back and it wasn't there,

1838
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:38.359
<v Speaker 3>but the creature was yeah, I.

1839
01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Don't know, I don't know, and very similar to the

1840
01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:45.880
<v Speaker 2>woman coming down in the orb for Chris Bledsoe. It

1841
01:36:45.920 --> 01:36:48.199
<v Speaker 2>was an orb and then she came out of it.

1842
01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:52.319
<v Speaker 2>You hear stories like this, and that's not only like

1843
01:36:52.520 --> 01:36:54.039
<v Speaker 2>I know, I like to bring up the Bloodshow story

1844
01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>because it's fucking fascinating, but that's not the only one.

1845
01:36:57.000 --> 01:37:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Like these things are always happening, like I actually as

1846
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:04.319
<v Speaker 2>somebody asked as somebody asked me to give them a

1847
01:37:04.319 --> 01:37:06.960
<v Speaker 2>past life regression back when we were in studios or

1848
01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:10.279
<v Speaker 2>in Christie's studio, right, and it was like one of

1849
01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Christie's friends and she talked of and she was like

1850
01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:16.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more on the normal end, but she

1851
01:37:16.079 --> 01:37:19.199
<v Speaker 2>had asked me to give her a past life regression,

1852
01:37:19.279 --> 01:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>but not necessarily a past life, but she wanted to

1853
01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:25.399
<v Speaker 2>go back to the time where she witnessed a like

1854
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:28.920
<v Speaker 2>a giant orb that was like hovering above her pool.

1855
01:37:29.199 --> 01:37:31.520
<v Speaker 2>So she was like in her swimming pool and she

1856
01:37:31.640 --> 01:37:34.399
<v Speaker 2>was like out there tanning, sitting on a raft, and

1857
01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:36.760
<v Speaker 2>the sun was starting to go down. So she knew

1858
01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:38.920
<v Speaker 2>like what time it was by the sun starting to

1859
01:37:38.960 --> 01:37:40.680
<v Speaker 2>go down a little bit, right, you know, you think

1860
01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:42.439
<v Speaker 2>about like you're out in the pool at like six

1861
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:45.319
<v Speaker 2>seven o'clock. The sun is, you know, it looks like

1862
01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:48.159
<v Speaker 2>it's starting to come down. It's distant on the opposite side.

1863
01:37:48.479 --> 01:37:52.239
<v Speaker 2>It's setting in the west right, and and but she

1864
01:37:52.520 --> 01:37:56.359
<v Speaker 2>noticed that there was like this bright orange sunlike thing

1865
01:37:56.439 --> 01:37:58.800
<v Speaker 2>that was in the sky directly behind her. But it

1866
01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have been behind her. The sun should have been

1867
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:03.439
<v Speaker 2>in front of her, right, and but she noticed that

1868
01:38:03.479 --> 01:38:06.039
<v Speaker 2>there was like some sunlight coming from another direction. So

1869
01:38:06.079 --> 01:38:08.479
<v Speaker 2>she turns around. She goes, oh, that's the sun. That's weird.

1870
01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:10.520
<v Speaker 2>And then she turns back around to the place where

1871
01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:13.359
<v Speaker 2>she was and she saw also the sun, the actual son.

1872
01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:16.479
<v Speaker 2>She she's like, what the actual fuck? Right, And so

1873
01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:19.279
<v Speaker 2>but she has a lot of like, uh, she believes

1874
01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:22.119
<v Speaker 2>that there's like missing time, and so I hypnotized her,

1875
01:38:22.159 --> 01:38:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and you know, we got back to the moral of

1876
01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:27.039
<v Speaker 2>the story. Basically, she was able to find that the

1877
01:38:27.159 --> 01:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>missing time, this is where it gets really fucking wild.

1878
01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:32.720
<v Speaker 2>But the missing time that she couldn't remember was that

1879
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:35.560
<v Speaker 2>she actually got out of the pool and chased it

1880
01:38:35.600 --> 01:38:38.840
<v Speaker 2>and went over to like she she had like a

1881
01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>pond in her neighborhood or in her yard or something

1882
01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:44.359
<v Speaker 2>like that, and the fucking orb went from the sky,

1883
01:38:44.479 --> 01:38:47.399
<v Speaker 2>the sun looking orb went from the sky and shot

1884
01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:50.159
<v Speaker 2>right into the into the pond, never to be seen again.

1885
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:56.079
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know either, But it's like just a

1886
01:38:56.119 --> 01:38:58.800
<v Speaker 2>fascinating story that you know, you can uncover a lot

1887
01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:02.800
<v Speaker 2>through hypnosis and and shit like that, and I mean,

1888
01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:05.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, do with that as you will. It could

1889
01:39:05.079 --> 01:39:06.880
<v Speaker 2>just be a story, could be real, it could be fake.

1890
01:39:06.920 --> 01:39:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Who knows, could be the imagination. But I'm not somebody

1891
01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:14.800
<v Speaker 2>that just believes the imagination as strictly just an imaginator.

1892
01:39:14.840 --> 01:39:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I think that there's a lot more to imagination than

1893
01:39:16.840 --> 01:39:18.399
<v Speaker 2>we think. I'm with you.

1894
01:39:18.680 --> 01:39:21.119
<v Speaker 3>And then, in that same line, right of thinking of

1895
01:39:21.239 --> 01:39:24.279
<v Speaker 3>maybe it was a false imagination or whatever the case is,

1896
01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:27.359
<v Speaker 3>the article continues and says that the monster may be

1897
01:39:27.399 --> 01:39:31.000
<v Speaker 3>a result of false memories. Now this is where I'm

1898
01:39:31.239 --> 01:39:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm with you here.

1899
01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a bit.

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01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:36.319
<v Speaker 3>Insulting to just write it all off like that. Again,

1901
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:39.800
<v Speaker 3>one person not remembering all of the details. Okay, fine,

1902
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:41.800
<v Speaker 3>I get it. I don't have a perfect memory of

1903
01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:44.680
<v Speaker 3>every single thing that's ever happened in my life. Okay,

1904
01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:48.000
<v Speaker 3>all of these people having a false memory, yet all

1905
01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:50.520
<v Speaker 3>being able to draw the exact same entity.

1906
01:39:50.960 --> 01:39:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Bro What that says. Many alien abductees and witnesses of

1907
01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:57.399
<v Speaker 2>UFO phenomena like the flat Woods Monster have a similar

1908
01:39:57.479 --> 01:40:00.279
<v Speaker 2>detail in many of their stories. Either they see an

1909
01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:04.000
<v Speaker 2>owl shortly before or after their alien interaction, like I

1910
01:40:04.039 --> 01:40:07.000
<v Speaker 2>was saying, or the creature they met or they meet

1911
01:40:07.039 --> 01:40:10.640
<v Speaker 2>looked strangely like an owl. This experience is known to

1912
01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:15.640
<v Speaker 2>the paranormal community as screen memory, a false image implanted

1913
01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:19.159
<v Speaker 2>in the imagination of someone interacting with extraterrestrial with an

1914
01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:22.960
<v Speaker 2>extraterrestrial to keep them calm. These screen memories are similar

1915
01:40:23.039 --> 01:40:25.479
<v Speaker 2>to the way that our brains build false memories based

1916
01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:27.840
<v Speaker 2>on random pieces of information that we soak up. The

1917
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:31.079
<v Speaker 2>variations of the appearance of the Flatwoods Monster could come

1918
01:40:31.159 --> 01:40:33.880
<v Speaker 2>from people in the group that saw the group interpreting

1919
01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the false memory differently, which adds to the unbelievability of

1920
01:40:37.760 --> 01:40:41.000
<v Speaker 2>their story. Okay, Now, like you said, with the owls,

1921
01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:45.680
<v Speaker 2>none of the eyewitnesses said fuck all about an owl.

1922
01:40:46.279 --> 01:40:48.720
<v Speaker 2>The only people that have said anything about an owl

1923
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:52.640
<v Speaker 2>was the government officials, and somehow that's what it is.

1924
01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know they see owls in this owl like figure,

1925
01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:58.800
<v Speaker 3>this owl shaped inditect No it is not. It is

1926
01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:02.039
<v Speaker 3>not shaped like an owl. This does not look like

1927
01:41:02.079 --> 01:41:04.520
<v Speaker 3>an owl. And none of them said they saw one

1928
01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:06.920
<v Speaker 3>in the woods before or after this entity.

1929
01:41:07.159 --> 01:41:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's the thing, and this is a perfect case.

1930
01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:15.319
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing about imagination. You can imagine that they

1931
01:41:15.399 --> 01:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>saw an owl, and then the story that would correlate,

1932
01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:21.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, that comes from the owl. So you saw

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01:41:21.560 --> 01:41:23.760
<v Speaker 2>an owl, you know that it's a precursor of things

1934
01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:26.439
<v Speaker 2>to come or something that has just happened or whatever. Right,

1935
01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:30.399
<v Speaker 2>And the person that is trying to figure out the

1936
01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:33.720
<v Speaker 2>story is using their imagination to try and build here.

1937
01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:36.359
<v Speaker 2>But the problem is is that there was never an

1938
01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:40.880
<v Speaker 2>owl scene and so now they're using their imagination to

1939
01:41:40.960 --> 01:41:43.920
<v Speaker 2>build on top of a story in which never happened.

1940
01:41:43.960 --> 01:41:48.079
<v Speaker 2>It never transpired. It's the imagination, right. So anyway, it's

1941
01:41:48.079 --> 01:41:51.199
<v Speaker 2>a conundrum in and of itself. It's an enigma.

1942
01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:57.000
<v Speaker 3>It is, indeed so the false false memories bullshit here. Now,

1943
01:41:57.359 --> 01:41:58.840
<v Speaker 3>this is one of those that I thought was kind

1944
01:41:58.840 --> 01:42:02.079
<v Speaker 3>of cool in pop culture. I didn't realize that in

1945
01:42:02.840 --> 01:42:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Zelda an Ocarina of Time this entity is based off

1946
01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:08.760
<v Speaker 3>of the Flatwoods Monster.

1947
01:42:08.920 --> 01:42:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh how about that? It says it's hard to get

1948
01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:13.039
<v Speaker 2>your name out there when you don't have a pr

1949
01:42:13.159 --> 01:42:17.479
<v Speaker 2>machine to match that of the Lockness Monster or the

1950
01:42:17.479 --> 01:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Lockness Monster or Bigfoot. But the Flatwoods Monster still has

1951
01:42:20.960 --> 01:42:23.479
<v Speaker 2>its fans. Up until two thousand and six, flat Woods

1952
01:42:24.760 --> 01:42:28.119
<v Speaker 2>held a three day festival celebrating the creature, and it

1953
01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:31.159
<v Speaker 2>even makes an appearance in the Legend of Zeld Legend

1954
01:42:31.159 --> 01:42:36.119
<v Speaker 2>of Zelda Majora's Mask as the inspiration Lockerina of Time.

1955
01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:40.039
<v Speaker 2>I meant Majora's Mask, my bad. Yeah, it was as

1956
01:42:40.079 --> 01:42:42.479
<v Speaker 2>the inspiration for the design of the aliens that appear

1957
01:42:42.560 --> 01:42:45.840
<v Speaker 2>prior to the Carnival of Time to steal cattle. The

1958
01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Flatwood's monsters simple yet creepy description has led multiple game

1959
01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:55.479
<v Speaker 2>designers to work it into their art. Most of the

1960
01:42:55.479 --> 01:42:58.199
<v Speaker 2>the most on the nose video game reference comes from

1961
01:42:58.239 --> 01:43:03.479
<v Speaker 2>the Forgotten Oh game Amagon, where the creature plays the

1962
01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:07.239
<v Speaker 2>part of the final boss. Since the last reference to

1963
01:43:07.279 --> 01:43:09.399
<v Speaker 2>the flat Woods Monster was made in two thousand, it

1964
01:43:09.479 --> 01:43:12.039
<v Speaker 2>might be time for a faithful reader to work this

1965
01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:17.159
<v Speaker 2>mysterious creature into their own work. Okay, So, as we

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01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:22.680
<v Speaker 2>have seen multiple sources and they all the basis stays

1967
01:43:22.720 --> 01:43:28.880
<v Speaker 2>the same, and the officiating person's reportings all throughout this

1968
01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:32.000
<v Speaker 2>owl thing, false memories, it was a shadow, it was whatever.

1969
01:43:32.600 --> 01:43:35.199
<v Speaker 3>But the keynotes of the story itself from the people

1970
01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:38.600
<v Speaker 3>that kind of seems to be just in the same

1971
01:43:39.039 --> 01:43:43.079
<v Speaker 3>mix here. Yet somehow people are just easily writing it

1972
01:43:43.119 --> 01:43:49.520
<v Speaker 3>off as a shadow, mind games, misremembering, hallucinations, shared hallucinations,

1973
01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:52.840
<v Speaker 3>because you know those are so common and shit, yeah

1974
01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:55.560
<v Speaker 3>it's wild things. So we got one more article that

1975
01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:58.600
<v Speaker 3>I have pulled up here, a haunted place as a

1976
01:43:58.600 --> 01:44:01.520
<v Speaker 3>matter of fact, under the cannot be of mystery, the

1977
01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:04.399
<v Speaker 3>Tale of the flat Woods Monster. Now I know there's

1978
01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:07.840
<v Speaker 3>an AI generated image, but I also thought this is

1979
01:44:07.920 --> 01:44:09.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of cool too. Now we're talking about the spade

1980
01:44:09.960 --> 01:44:13.680
<v Speaker 3>shape and all of this. Could this be closer to

1981
01:44:13.800 --> 01:44:16.239
<v Speaker 3>what the people saw? But I mean again, they drew

1982
01:44:16.479 --> 01:44:18.479
<v Speaker 3>what they saw and they had an artist rendition of

1983
01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:20.920
<v Speaker 3>it too, so I mean this is not exact one

1984
01:44:20.920 --> 01:44:22.720
<v Speaker 3>to one but possible.

1985
01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Huh looks cool. I think it's pretty dope. So yeah,

1986
01:44:27.880 --> 01:44:30.439
<v Speaker 2>we don't really need the whole story right there. What

1987
01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:31.760
<v Speaker 2>is the Flatwoods Monster?

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01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:32.560
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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01:44:32.640 --> 01:44:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Where do you want to start here?

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01:44:34.720 --> 01:44:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we already talked about what happened here the

1991
01:44:37.159 --> 01:44:41.319
<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifty two all the stuff. They break this down

1992
01:44:41.319 --> 01:44:44.359
<v Speaker 3>though as far as the like, they took away all

1993
01:44:44.399 --> 01:44:46.840
<v Speaker 3>of the people's interpretations of it and they go straight

1994
01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:50.279
<v Speaker 3>into here's the details, here's the aftermath. And I thought

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01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:51.960
<v Speaker 3>that was a pretty decent way to kind of wrap

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01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:53.199
<v Speaker 3>it on in Okay.

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01:44:53.359 --> 01:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>So, the Flatwoods Monster, often referred to as the Braxton

1998
01:44:55.960 --> 01:44:58.439
<v Speaker 2>County Monster or the Phantom of flat Woods, is a

1999
01:44:58.479 --> 01:45:00.920
<v Speaker 2>cryptid that allegedly was cited the town of flat Woods

2000
01:45:00.920 --> 01:45:03.279
<v Speaker 2>in Braxton County, West Virginia in nineteen fifty two. This

2001
01:45:03.319 --> 01:45:06.239
<v Speaker 2>creature is one of the most famous entrees in American

2002
01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:09.680
<v Speaker 2>cryptid lore, with a particularly striking and eerie description. Here's

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01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:13.479
<v Speaker 2>a rundown of the flat Wood's Monster legend. The sighting details.

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01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:15.760
<v Speaker 2>On September twelfth, nineteen fifty two, a group of children

2005
01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:18.039
<v Speaker 2>observed a bright object crossing the sky and landing on

2006
01:45:18.079 --> 01:45:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the property of a local farmer accompanied by a few adults,

2007
01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:23.159
<v Speaker 2>they went to the site that they believed the object

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01:45:23.199 --> 01:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>had landed. As they approached the location, they were assailed

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01:45:25.960 --> 01:45:28.600
<v Speaker 2>by a pungent mist that made their eyes and noses burn.

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01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:32.399
<v Speaker 2>They then saw a large pulsating ball of fire and

2011
01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:36.239
<v Speaker 2>nearby spotted a creature that is now famously described as

2012
01:45:36.239 --> 01:45:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the flat Woods Monster. So what does the flat Woods

2013
01:45:39.680 --> 01:45:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Monster look like? The height they say the creature was

2014
01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:46.279
<v Speaker 2>described as being quite tall, about ten feet in height.

2015
01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:51.239
<v Speaker 2>The appearance. It had a shade spade, a spade shaped

2016
01:45:51.439 --> 01:45:54.600
<v Speaker 2>or ace of spade shaped head with non human eyes

2017
01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:59.000
<v Speaker 2>that emitted a greenish orange glow. Its body seemed to

2018
01:45:59.039 --> 01:46:02.359
<v Speaker 2>be metallic or at least clad in some form of exoskeleton,

2019
01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:06.199
<v Speaker 2>possibly suggesting armor. Some reports describe the entity as having

2020
01:46:06.199 --> 01:46:11.119
<v Speaker 2>a dark pleated skirt like lower portion than the limbs.

2021
01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:14.800
<v Speaker 2>It had short, stubby arms with long claw like finger

2022
01:46:15.159 --> 01:46:18.560
<v Speaker 2>figures fingers, and then there was an odor. The area

2023
01:46:18.600 --> 01:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>around the sighting was filled with a nauseating and sulfurous odor,

2024
01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:26.000
<v Speaker 2>often described as being similar to the smell of rotten eggs.

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01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:30.119
<v Speaker 2>The encounter left the witness is terrified. The next day,

2026
01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:32.720
<v Speaker 2>they experienced symptoms like irritation in the nose and throat,

2027
01:46:32.920 --> 01:46:36.039
<v Speaker 2>vomiting and swelling of the throat, which some believe might

2028
01:46:36.039 --> 01:46:38.760
<v Speaker 2>have been due to exposure to an unidentified substance from

2029
01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:40.960
<v Speaker 2>the craft or creature itself.

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01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, now we're going to get into They got eight

2031
01:46:45.039 --> 01:46:51.159
<v Speaker 3>possible explanations, and some of these are meh, some of

2032
01:46:51.199 --> 01:46:54.760
<v Speaker 3>these are just downright insulting. We've covered some of them already,

2033
01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:58.159
<v Speaker 3>but I feel like this one is the all encompassing list,

2034
01:46:58.239 --> 01:46:59.239
<v Speaker 3>so let's dive in.

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01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:01.720
<v Speaker 2>So the site of the Flatwood Monster remains one of

2036
01:47:01.760 --> 01:47:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the more perplexing events encrypted lore. Over the years, several explanations,

2037
01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:09.079
<v Speaker 2>ranging from extraterrestrial to more mundane, have been put forth

2038
01:47:09.119 --> 01:47:11.439
<v Speaker 2>to explain the event in the creature's appearance. Here are

2039
01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:13.800
<v Speaker 2>some of the most commonly suggested explanations.

2040
01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:17.279
<v Speaker 3>Number one, Well, before we do this, after each one,

2041
01:47:17.439 --> 01:47:19.079
<v Speaker 3>me and you give a thumbs up or thumbs down

2042
01:47:19.119 --> 01:47:23.079
<v Speaker 3>if we think this is even plausible, outright just bullshit,

2043
01:47:23.359 --> 01:47:25.439
<v Speaker 3>or hey, this might be the truth here. Let's let's

2044
01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:26.520
<v Speaker 3>do that on each They got.

2045
01:47:26.319 --> 01:47:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Eight all right, Number one, given the uh, it's an

2046
01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:34.439
<v Speaker 2>extraterrestrial being, given the initial reports of a flying object

2047
01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:36.800
<v Speaker 2>and the creature's strange appearance, some believe it might have

2048
01:47:36.880 --> 01:47:39.720
<v Speaker 2>been an alien from another planet. This idea is further

2049
01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:42.880
<v Speaker 2>reinforced by the era during which the sighting occurred, at

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01:47:42.920 --> 01:47:46.760
<v Speaker 2>time of heightened UFO sightings and public interest in extraterrestrial life,

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01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:49.279
<v Speaker 2>giving that one the thumbs up thumbs out.

2052
01:47:49.560 --> 01:47:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think that's more than likely the case, but hey,

2053
01:47:52.039 --> 01:47:53.119
<v Speaker 3>we got seven more to go.

2054
01:47:53.239 --> 01:47:57.479
<v Speaker 2>Let's see Barnow. One of the more popular skeptical explanations

2055
01:47:57.520 --> 01:48:00.000
<v Speaker 2>is that the witness encounter to Barnew, the creature's high

2056
01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:02.800
<v Speaker 2>and the glow of its eyes could be accounted for

2057
01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:05.319
<v Speaker 2>by an owl perched on a tree or higher ground,

2058
01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:08.279
<v Speaker 2>with its eyes reflecting the light from a flashlight or

2059
01:48:08.319 --> 01:48:12.039
<v Speaker 2>another source. The spade shaped head is somewhat reminiscent of

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01:48:12.079 --> 01:48:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the shape of an owl's face.

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01:48:15.159 --> 01:48:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Completely thumbs down for me, personally, I've never seen an

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01:48:18.279 --> 01:48:21.399
<v Speaker 3>owl's face shape be that of an ace of spades.

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01:48:22.159 --> 01:48:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go teeter totter here, I'm

2064
01:48:25.800 --> 01:48:28.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna say up and down because I don't think that

2065
01:48:28.319 --> 01:48:30.960
<v Speaker 2>it was just an owl as we know it. I

2066
01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:35.239
<v Speaker 2>personally think that owls not all maybe, but I think

2067
01:48:35.239 --> 01:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>that some owls could be mystical creatures in and of themselves,

2068
01:48:38.720 --> 01:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>especially the ones that are out in the forest. They

2069
01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:45.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe they're they're hiding their true appearance by taking the

2070
01:48:45.159 --> 01:48:47.560
<v Speaker 2>form of an owl. Maybe you can make an explanation

2071
01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>for that. Okay, So still on the more cryptid slash alien.

2072
01:48:53.520 --> 01:48:56.439
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, just that it is a barn owl. No,

2073
01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:02.479
<v Speaker 2>but no number three mechanical device or aircraft. Given the

2074
01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:04.760
<v Speaker 2>reports of a flying object in the metallic nature of

2075
01:49:04.800 --> 01:49:08.319
<v Speaker 2>the creature, some speculate that what was seen might have

2076
01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:12.000
<v Speaker 2>been some form of experimental craft or mechanical device, either

2077
01:49:12.119 --> 01:49:13.720
<v Speaker 2>of domestic or foreign origin.

2078
01:49:15.439 --> 01:49:18.880
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna I'm sorry, man,

2079
01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Like Okay, if there was a crash and there was

2080
01:49:21.800 --> 01:49:25.680
<v Speaker 3>wreckage associated with this entity, maybe that was like some

2081
01:49:25.720 --> 01:49:30.479
<v Speaker 3>sort of new experimental flight suit that they were dealing with. Okay,

2082
01:49:30.520 --> 01:49:34.079
<v Speaker 3>we could have that conversation. No, nothing about this checks

2083
01:49:34.199 --> 01:49:35.399
<v Speaker 3>like any of those boxes.

2084
01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:39.520
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a no for me, dog right. Number four.

2085
01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Mass hysteria or misinterpretation. It's possible that the initial sightings

2086
01:49:44.359 --> 01:49:46.760
<v Speaker 2>of the unexplained object in the sky, combined with the

2087
01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:51.039
<v Speaker 2>heightened tension and fear, led to a group misinterpretation. The

2088
01:49:51.199 --> 01:49:55.279
<v Speaker 2>human mind can sometimes perceive familiar objects as unfamiliar or

2089
01:49:55.319 --> 01:50:01.159
<v Speaker 2>even menacing in stressful or ambiguous situations. Yeah, I'm gonna go,

2090
01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:02.439
<v Speaker 2>and no for that one too, bro.

2091
01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, one, two, maybe even three people having some sort

2092
01:50:06.720 --> 01:50:08.920
<v Speaker 3>of a crazy story that almost sounds alike. So they

2093
01:50:08.960 --> 01:50:12.239
<v Speaker 3>just kind of joined forces in roam with it. Okay, Okay,

2094
01:50:12.279 --> 01:50:16.319
<v Speaker 3>possibly this many people not even in the same group.

2095
01:50:16.319 --> 01:50:19.800
<v Speaker 3>They're from different areas around the same city, all having

2096
01:50:19.840 --> 01:50:22.680
<v Speaker 3>the similar experiences. No, I'm sorry, there's no way this

2097
01:50:22.720 --> 01:50:24.000
<v Speaker 3>was a mass hallucination.

2098
01:50:24.600 --> 01:50:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Number five chemical exposure. The pungent missed and the subsequent symptoms.

2099
01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Symptoms experienced by the witness have led some to speculate

2100
01:50:32.319 --> 01:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>that they might have been exposed to some kind of

2101
01:50:35.039 --> 01:50:38.239
<v Speaker 2>chemical or gas. This could have affected their perceptions or

2102
01:50:38.279 --> 01:50:42.199
<v Speaker 2>even included or induced hallucinations.

2103
01:50:44.439 --> 01:50:47.840
<v Speaker 3>So if the story is true that the monster had

2104
01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:50.439
<v Speaker 3>a fog or a mist around it and or spray

2105
01:50:50.560 --> 01:50:53.439
<v Speaker 3>two of these boys, okay, then I would say this

2106
01:50:53.479 --> 01:50:56.880
<v Speaker 3>would be confirmed. But that would mean that only those

2107
01:50:56.920 --> 01:51:01.279
<v Speaker 3>two experienced the hallucination at that point, and that would

2108
01:51:01.279 --> 01:51:03.720
<v Speaker 3>make no sense that all of them experienced a hallucination

2109
01:51:04.119 --> 01:51:07.920
<v Speaker 3>and even still if the gas from around this area

2110
01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:10.800
<v Speaker 3>produced all of it, what caused the gas?

2111
01:51:12.560 --> 01:51:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I this just reminds me of Scarecrow. Not to

2112
01:51:17.439 --> 01:51:21.319
<v Speaker 2>make my second Batman or second DC comment here, but

2113
01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:25.720
<v Speaker 2>like the Scarecrow, the villain from Batman, he would always

2114
01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:28.039
<v Speaker 2>give off like this miss and it caused everybody to

2115
01:51:28.079 --> 01:51:30.239
<v Speaker 2>hallucinate that way. Whenever they look back at him. He

2116
01:51:30.319 --> 01:51:32.560
<v Speaker 2>was terrifying and he was like a fucking nightmare, right,

2117
01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:35.359
<v Speaker 2>which is pretty fucking brilliant of an idea, I think.

2118
01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:41.439
<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, like the thing with hallucinations, especially whenever

2119
01:51:41.439 --> 01:51:44.880
<v Speaker 2>you have heightened fear and in a group of people,

2120
01:51:45.199 --> 01:51:49.319
<v Speaker 2>not everybody is going to see and experience the same

2121
01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:54.640
<v Speaker 2>exact thing that it's hallucinations are not exact, you know,

2122
01:51:54.880 --> 01:51:57.880
<v Speaker 2>like there's gonna be varying details. Maybe I would like

2123
01:51:57.960 --> 01:52:03.079
<v Speaker 2>to get individual you know, so I would like to

2124
01:52:03.079 --> 01:52:06.560
<v Speaker 2>have individual conversations with each individual that experienced this. I'm

2125
01:52:06.600 --> 01:52:08.399
<v Speaker 2>sure a lot of them probably died by now, so

2126
01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I was back in the fifties, But it would be

2127
01:52:10.960 --> 01:52:14.520
<v Speaker 2>interesting to see, like if somebody shared a detail that

2128
01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:17.680
<v Speaker 2>was different from somebody else sharing a detail, and maybe

2129
01:52:17.720 --> 01:52:20.560
<v Speaker 2>that's how this story got so confused. But if they

2130
01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:24.239
<v Speaker 2>were indeed all seeing and experiencing the same exact thing.

2131
01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Highly unlikely that it was a hallucination or any kind

2132
01:52:27.720 --> 01:52:28.760
<v Speaker 2>of chemical exposure.

2133
01:52:29.680 --> 01:52:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Agreed, agreed, go ahead, and throwing up that thumbs down

2134
01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:33.600
<v Speaker 3>for myself here.

2135
01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Number six, it was a hoax, though the genuine fear

2136
01:52:37.720 --> 01:52:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and concerned and concern exhibited by the witnesses make a

2137
01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:45.600
<v Speaker 2>deliberate hoax on their part unlikely. It's always possible that

2138
01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:48.840
<v Speaker 2>someone else staged a prank that unintentionally terrified the group.

2139
01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:55.159
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so for someone to stage a prank on six

2140
01:52:55.359 --> 01:53:00.239
<v Speaker 3>school children, a mom, and a nineteen year old, that

2141
01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:01.840
<v Speaker 3>means that they would have had to have known that

2142
01:53:01.880 --> 01:53:04.079
<v Speaker 3>someone was going to come into that section of the

2143
01:53:04.079 --> 01:53:06.520
<v Speaker 3>woods just to investigate something that.

2144
01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Could not be explained in the first place. The couple.

2145
01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:13.760
<v Speaker 3>So you're telling me that somebody staged a reptilian looking

2146
01:53:13.760 --> 01:53:15.960
<v Speaker 3>thing to make their car magically start up when it

2147
01:53:15.960 --> 01:53:16.840
<v Speaker 3>had just broke down.

2148
01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:20.960
<v Speaker 2>That makes no sense to me. Yeah, it would have

2149
01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:26.079
<v Speaker 2>to be so elaborate, and also that does Let's say

2150
01:53:26.079 --> 01:53:28.119
<v Speaker 2>it is a hoax that somebody just goes out there

2151
01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:32.000
<v Speaker 2>in a halloween costume to scare these people, right, a

2152
01:53:32.039 --> 01:53:35.000
<v Speaker 2>ten foot tall Halloween costume. You're not gonna get sick,

2153
01:53:35.479 --> 01:53:37.239
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to be throwing up, you're not gonna

2154
01:53:37.279 --> 01:53:39.039
<v Speaker 2>have the shits, You're not gonna be able to not

2155
01:53:39.239 --> 01:53:43.720
<v Speaker 2>swallow liquid. So no, now that's not to say that

2156
01:53:45.359 --> 01:53:47.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe a lot of these things are happening at the

2157
01:53:47.439 --> 01:53:51.199
<v Speaker 2>same time. You know, you could say that it was

2158
01:53:51.239 --> 01:53:54.399
<v Speaker 2>a hoax. They were around chemical exposure, they saw a

2159
01:53:54.439 --> 01:53:59.960
<v Speaker 2>barn owl, and that that's how the extraterrestrial being exposed itself.

2160
01:54:00.600 --> 01:54:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Like you couldn't make it like deep. But I don't

2161
01:54:02.920 --> 01:54:04.000
<v Speaker 2>think that's what's going on either.

2162
01:54:04.479 --> 01:54:06.880
<v Speaker 3>There's so many hoops to jump through to make that

2163
01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:09.159
<v Speaker 3>make sense. Man, you know me, I'm more of the

2164
01:54:09.199 --> 01:54:10.479
<v Speaker 3>Okham's razor tips.

2165
01:54:10.279 --> 01:54:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Easier just to believe the most likely.

2166
01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:14.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, if we're looking at the entire story,

2167
01:54:14.920 --> 01:54:17.199
<v Speaker 3>it's way more likely like for that to happen. That

2168
01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:20.439
<v Speaker 3>means that somebody would have had to have known that

2169
01:54:20.479 --> 01:54:22.359
<v Speaker 3>there was gonna be a crash or some sort of

2170
01:54:22.399 --> 01:54:26.800
<v Speaker 3>fireball in these people's farm, set up with a glowing eyed,

2171
01:54:27.079 --> 01:54:31.760
<v Speaker 3>spade shaped headed, ten foot tall mask or silhouette or

2172
01:54:31.800 --> 01:54:34.960
<v Speaker 3>something like that. Knew that these people or some people

2173
01:54:34.960 --> 01:54:36.880
<v Speaker 3>were gonna be going that route because they were going

2174
01:54:36.920 --> 01:54:39.119
<v Speaker 3>through the woods, you know what I mean. And I'm

2175
01:54:39.159 --> 01:54:41.439
<v Speaker 3>sure there's more than just one trail through the woods.

2176
01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:43.119
<v Speaker 3>So you would have had to have known that these

2177
01:54:43.159 --> 01:54:45.439
<v Speaker 3>people were coming. You would have had to have in

2178
01:54:45.520 --> 01:54:49.079
<v Speaker 3>nineteen forty eight had a working knowledge of like gases

2179
01:54:49.119 --> 01:54:50.760
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that to kind of stage it, to

2180
01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:53.760
<v Speaker 3>not kill them, but give them enough of an odorous

2181
01:54:53.840 --> 01:54:56.239
<v Speaker 3>smell to it to where they'd be scared shitless enough

2182
01:54:56.239 --> 01:54:59.880
<v Speaker 3>to be like affected by It's that's too much. There's

2183
01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:01.840
<v Speaker 3>way too many things that would have to have been

2184
01:55:01.880 --> 01:55:05.279
<v Speaker 3>perfectly done, and for what point just to fuck with

2185
01:55:05.319 --> 01:55:05.840
<v Speaker 3>some kids.

2186
01:55:06.199 --> 01:55:08.880
<v Speaker 2>And the time. The timing is peculiar too, because Roswell

2187
01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:10.520
<v Speaker 2>was forty six, wasn't ith.

2188
01:55:11.119 --> 01:55:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So a lot of these sightings happened around the

2189
01:55:14.319 --> 01:55:16.560
<v Speaker 3>time when as soon as the mayor as soon as

2190
01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:19.119
<v Speaker 3>the world started dropping nukes on each other, all of

2191
01:55:19.159 --> 01:55:21.960
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, these extraterrestrials started paying more attention to us.

2192
01:55:22.119 --> 01:55:24.840
<v Speaker 3>I think that they saw that as a giant step

2193
01:55:24.920 --> 01:55:29.720
<v Speaker 3>up in our technological advancement. Nuclear power and nuclear bombs

2194
01:55:30.039 --> 01:55:34.000
<v Speaker 3>are just kind of that next evolutionary stage where it's like, oh,

2195
01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:36.600
<v Speaker 3>we're not just gliding around, shooting each other with lead.

2196
01:55:37.319 --> 01:55:40.079
<v Speaker 3>We're we're doing like big things, like things that the

2197
01:55:40.199 --> 01:55:41.800
<v Speaker 3>universe can feel when they happen.

2198
01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Things. Yeah, think about it like this, if there were

2199
01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:47.600
<v Speaker 2>if we were able to know for sure that there

2200
01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:49.960
<v Speaker 2>are some kind of beings living on the Moon. Some

2201
01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:52.840
<v Speaker 2>people believe that I tend to believe that there's something

2202
01:55:52.840 --> 01:55:55.199
<v Speaker 2>going on the Moon that we don't know about, just

2203
01:55:55.239 --> 01:55:58.520
<v Speaker 2>with the whole Shoot the Moon documentary. But let's just

2204
01:55:58.600 --> 01:56:01.840
<v Speaker 2>say that there are people or beings I'll just say

2205
01:56:01.960 --> 01:56:04.159
<v Speaker 2>living on the moon or in the Moon. Well, what

2206
01:56:04.279 --> 01:56:08.239
<v Speaker 2>happens whenever they go to war and somebody nukes somebody

2207
01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:10.600
<v Speaker 2>else on the moon. Well you might think, well, it's

2208
01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:12.960
<v Speaker 2>so far away, it wouldn't really matter. But we also

2209
01:56:12.960 --> 01:56:16.840
<v Speaker 2>got to imagine that we are in a Goldilocks zone, right,

2210
01:56:16.960 --> 01:56:19.640
<v Speaker 2>like they say that we're in a Goldilog zone. Everything

2211
01:56:19.760 --> 01:56:23.239
<v Speaker 2>is exactly perfect for life to exist here on this planet.

2212
01:56:23.479 --> 01:56:26.079
<v Speaker 2>So you could say that if there was a nuke

2213
01:56:26.119 --> 01:56:28.079
<v Speaker 2>that was set off on the Moon, it would send

2214
01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:32.920
<v Speaker 2>ripples not only throughout the entire universe, but through us.

2215
01:56:32.960 --> 01:56:34.880
<v Speaker 2>It would have some kind of effect on us, right,

2216
01:56:34.880 --> 01:56:38.359
<v Speaker 2>it would throw its out of its own magnetic orbit

2217
01:56:38.479 --> 01:56:41.800
<v Speaker 2>with the Earth, maybe the tides would start going crazy,

2218
01:56:41.960 --> 01:56:45.560
<v Speaker 2>and so could you could then build a story as to, all, right,

2219
01:56:46.039 --> 01:56:48.720
<v Speaker 2>if the Aliens were worried that we were about to

2220
01:56:48.800 --> 01:56:52.880
<v Speaker 2>nuke each other, you might send somebody in there right

2221
01:56:52.960 --> 01:56:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to try and prevent these kinds of things so that

2222
01:56:54.960 --> 01:56:58.239
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't affect where you're at. Hypothetically speaking, that and

2223
01:56:58.279 --> 01:57:00.920
<v Speaker 2>that's some people. Some people mention that that's believable.

2224
01:57:00.920 --> 01:57:04.319
<v Speaker 3>To me, I think that that is more than likely personally,

2225
01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:07.000
<v Speaker 3>just Jacob speaking on behalf of Jacob. And I'm not

2226
01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:10.159
<v Speaker 3>saying that we were never visited from extraterrestrial life or

2227
01:57:10.199 --> 01:57:13.840
<v Speaker 3>interdimensional life, maybe both, maybe separate, I don't know, but

2228
01:57:13.920 --> 01:57:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that we were visited before we started dropping

2229
01:57:16.720 --> 01:57:17.720
<v Speaker 3>nukes on each other.

2230
01:57:17.640 --> 01:57:18.439
<v Speaker 2>For sure.

2231
01:57:19.479 --> 01:57:22.600
<v Speaker 3>But it seems very crazy that as soon as we did,

2232
01:57:22.880 --> 01:57:27.039
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, they got reports of them in China, Russia,

2233
01:57:27.079 --> 01:57:31.039
<v Speaker 3>all over the desert, in America, all over Europe more

2234
01:57:31.079 --> 01:57:35.399
<v Speaker 3>than ever before. You know, I'm just saying it seems

2235
01:57:35.960 --> 01:57:38.479
<v Speaker 3>highly likely that when we started fucking with that next

2236
01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:41.600
<v Speaker 3>level of technological advancement, the aliens started paying attention.

2237
01:57:41.960 --> 01:57:44.840
<v Speaker 2>That's just me, Yeah, dude, as above, so below, baby,

2238
01:57:45.039 --> 01:57:49.319
<v Speaker 2>so anyway, number seven, and it could could it have

2239
01:57:49.359 --> 01:57:52.960
<v Speaker 2>been an unknown animal. While the described creature doesn't match

2240
01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:55.399
<v Speaker 2>any known animals in the region, some speculate it could

2241
01:57:55.399 --> 01:57:58.199
<v Speaker 2>have been an undiscovered species or a known species exhibiting

2242
01:57:58.279 --> 01:58:02.119
<v Speaker 2>unusual behavior or characteristics. I'm gonna give it a no, because,

2243
01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:06.600
<v Speaker 2>first of all, it has been seventy years since then,

2244
01:58:06.720 --> 01:58:09.840
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think that there has been a ten

2245
01:58:09.920 --> 01:58:13.319
<v Speaker 2>foot owl to be discovered in West Virginia now.

2246
01:58:13.720 --> 01:58:16.520
<v Speaker 3>And again the whole owl thing. None of the eyewitnesses

2247
01:58:16.560 --> 01:58:21.319
<v Speaker 3>said anything about a fucking owl. But even if, okay,

2248
01:58:21.520 --> 01:58:24.199
<v Speaker 3>a giant bear, a black bear, they had those in

2249
01:58:24.199 --> 01:58:26.079
<v Speaker 3>West Virginia. Matter of fact, the necklace that I had,

2250
01:58:26.159 --> 01:58:28.439
<v Speaker 3>the tooth, I pulled that from a bear's mouth in

2251
01:58:28.479 --> 01:58:31.720
<v Speaker 3>West Virginia, right, So, I mean for sure, and they

2252
01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:34.039
<v Speaker 3>get tall, you know, a bear's hands being up like

2253
01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:36.199
<v Speaker 3>that to try to scare them or something. Dude, the

2254
01:58:36.239 --> 01:58:40.600
<v Speaker 3>people in West Virginia wouldn't have mistaken a giant, speed

2255
01:58:40.760 --> 01:58:42.159
<v Speaker 3>headed entity with.

2256
01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:45.279
<v Speaker 2>A metal body for a black bear. And I'm with you.

2257
01:58:45.359 --> 01:58:47.479
<v Speaker 3>Last time I checked, we don't have any animals on

2258
01:58:47.560 --> 01:58:50.680
<v Speaker 3>record in North America they even look close to this description.

2259
01:58:50.479 --> 01:58:54.319
<v Speaker 2>And a bear is not gonna be hissing at you. No, no, dude,

2260
01:58:54.640 --> 01:58:56.039
<v Speaker 2>none of that. None of that makes sense.

2261
01:58:56.039 --> 01:58:59.079
<v Speaker 3>Seeh an unknown animal gonna go ahead and say that's

2262
01:58:59.159 --> 01:59:00.239
<v Speaker 3>just false us.

2263
01:59:00.239 --> 01:59:03.920
<v Speaker 2>A bear is wearing like some snake bling. That's the

2264
01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:08.640
<v Speaker 2>only which isn't gonna happen. Possibly I just haven't seen it.

2265
01:59:08.720 --> 01:59:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Finally, the final one is number eight,

2266
01:59:13.079 --> 01:59:16.720
<v Speaker 2>folklore or legend come to life. In many cultures, there

2267
01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:19.880
<v Speaker 2>are legends of supernatural entities or creatures that can emerge

2268
01:59:19.920 --> 01:59:23.520
<v Speaker 2>during specific times or under certain conditions. While the Flatwood's

2269
01:59:23.520 --> 01:59:27.600
<v Speaker 2>monster doesn't directly map onto any specific local legend, it's

2270
01:59:27.640 --> 01:59:31.239
<v Speaker 2>worth noting that the human propensity to interpret unusual events

2271
01:59:31.279 --> 01:59:33.600
<v Speaker 2>through the lens of cultural myths and stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I get what they're saying, but there is

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<v Speaker 3>no kind of story about something like this in the

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01:59:41.960 --> 01:59:45.920
<v Speaker 3>area before this happened. And again, have you ever in

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01:59:45.960 --> 01:59:49.439
<v Speaker 3>your life seen any other image that looked like that?

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01:59:50.119 --> 01:59:53.399
<v Speaker 3>We have talked about how many alien stories, how many

2277
01:59:53.520 --> 01:59:59.079
<v Speaker 3>cryptid stories, strange sightings, hallucinations, DMT trips. We talk about

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01:59:59.119 --> 02:00:04.159
<v Speaker 3>everything here. I personally have never seen an entity or

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02:00:04.199 --> 02:00:07.680
<v Speaker 3>cryptid or creature or whatever look like the flat Woods

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02:00:07.720 --> 02:00:08.760
<v Speaker 3>monster was described.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I do wanna say this. There are such things

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02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:20.680
<v Speaker 2>as Tulpa's and Aggrigor's that sometimes myths and legends turn

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02:00:20.760 --> 02:00:25.239
<v Speaker 2>into some kind of reality. For example, the slender Man

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02:00:26.039 --> 02:00:30.319
<v Speaker 2>was a video game like that was never a real creature, right, Like,

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02:00:30.760 --> 02:00:34.560
<v Speaker 2>nobody's ever actually seen a slender Man before it was

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02:00:34.600 --> 02:00:37.560
<v Speaker 2>created in a video game or you know, in pop culture.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you hear stories about people witnessing slender Man.

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02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe is at the foot of the foot of your

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02:00:44.680 --> 02:00:49.000
<v Speaker 2>bed whenever you're you're like sleeplocked, right, and maybe you

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02:00:49.039 --> 02:00:51.159
<v Speaker 2>go out into the woods and you see some kind

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02:00:51.159 --> 02:00:53.479
<v Speaker 2>of creature that is like, holy shit, that slender Man,

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02:00:53.520 --> 02:00:57.239
<v Speaker 2>it actually exists. Maybe you go up to uh, what

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02:00:57.319 --> 02:01:00.319
<v Speaker 2>is the fucking place called Skinwalker Ranch or the blue

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02:01:00.359 --> 02:01:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Frog Ranch or whatever the fuck it was, and you

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02:01:02.720 --> 02:01:05.840
<v Speaker 2>start to see these kind of things. Could they have been?

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<v Speaker 2>Could like And this is the argument for it being

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02:01:08.399 --> 02:01:12.359
<v Speaker 2>a tulper or an eggergre, more so on the Eggergre side.

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<v Speaker 2>Could it have been that the folklore is so deep

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<v Speaker 2>like buried, so deeply buried within our subconscious mind that

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02:01:21.199 --> 02:01:26.079
<v Speaker 2>we almost manifest it through our fear. I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a possibility. Do I think that that's what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on here at first? Absolutely not. Could it have been

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02:01:32.920 --> 02:01:35.239
<v Speaker 2>a series of events that would have transpired that people

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02:01:35.279 --> 02:01:38.319
<v Speaker 2>go out in the woods in twenty twenty five in

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02:01:38.399 --> 02:01:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Braxton County and fucking West Virginia and they go out

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02:01:41.079 --> 02:01:43.760
<v Speaker 2>and they're looking for this thing. So then they actually

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<v Speaker 2>see it, even if it was just a story, also possible,

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<v Speaker 2>But there had been no other sightings since nineteen forty eight, right,

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02:01:52.319 --> 02:01:54.319
<v Speaker 2>so on that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, So I'm just saying the folklore and legend

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<v Speaker 3>come to life. There was no full folklore or legend

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<v Speaker 3>before this took place, and there hasn't been any sense

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02:02:03.720 --> 02:02:08.840
<v Speaker 3>except for things like this. So the town in West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 3>This is actually from the West Virginia Public Broadcasting website

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02:02:13.159 --> 02:02:16.720
<v Speaker 3>and uh yeah again this is the poster. This is

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02:02:16.800 --> 02:02:19.399
<v Speaker 3>the image that was drawn all of these things, and

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02:02:19.479 --> 02:02:20.680
<v Speaker 3>the town kind of leaned into it.

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02:02:20.720 --> 02:02:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Bro they had this museum.

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02:02:21.920 --> 02:02:24.840
<v Speaker 3>This guy here, Andrew Smith, he's the executive director of

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02:02:24.840 --> 02:02:26.239
<v Speaker 3>the Braxton County Visitor Center.

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02:02:26.520 --> 02:02:27.880
<v Speaker 2>He founded the museum too.

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02:02:27.960 --> 02:02:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Although he says originally the flat Woods Monster Collection could

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02:02:31.079 --> 02:02:35.359
<v Speaker 3>fit into on one small shelf. Now there's an entire museum.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>There's comic books, there's children's books, there's paintings and wood

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02:02:40.640 --> 02:02:43.119
<v Speaker 3>carvings and all these things. The people really leaned into it.

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02:02:43.119 --> 02:02:43.279
<v Speaker 4>Bro.

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02:02:43.319 --> 02:02:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Look at this tattoo. Oh that's sick, you know what

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02:02:46.039 --> 02:02:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Look at now that kind of looks like a robot

2331
02:02:48.800 --> 02:02:52.439
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. Yeah, I could see it. Look at

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02:02:52.439 --> 02:02:55.399
<v Speaker 3>these Japanese interpretations of the Flatwood Monster.

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<v Speaker 2>They made toys in Japan off of that dog. Fuck. Yeah.

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02:02:59.439 --> 02:03:04.840
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, look, could it be a thing these days? Yeah?

2335
02:03:05.199 --> 02:03:06.920
<v Speaker 2>People kind of took it to this level.

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02:03:06.960 --> 02:03:09.359
<v Speaker 3>And if somebody said that they saw the flat Woods

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02:03:09.399 --> 02:03:12.119
<v Speaker 3>Monster again today, maybe, like you said, it's the imagination

2338
02:03:12.239 --> 02:03:13.479
<v Speaker 3>come to life or something like that.

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02:03:13.520 --> 02:03:14.119
<v Speaker 2>I could see this.

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02:03:15.119 --> 02:03:18.479
<v Speaker 3>But as far as the story itself of the flat

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02:03:18.520 --> 02:03:22.119
<v Speaker 3>Woods Monster goes, big Dog, I think there's way more

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02:03:22.359 --> 02:03:25.680
<v Speaker 3>to the story than what the quote unquote official narrative

2343
02:03:26.319 --> 02:03:30.239
<v Speaker 3>would will have us believe. And yeah again to all

2344
02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:32.960
<v Speaker 3>the good cult members. When I was looking into the

2345
02:03:33.079 --> 02:03:38.960
<v Speaker 3>flat Wood or Flatlands conversation, did not mean to stumble

2346
02:03:39.000 --> 02:03:42.159
<v Speaker 3>into the interdimensional conversation that we did last time. But

2347
02:03:42.199 --> 02:03:44.760
<v Speaker 3>when I found the book Flatland, I felt like, you know,

2348
02:03:45.119 --> 02:03:47.840
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't actually connect. But in a sense it kind

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02:03:47.880 --> 02:03:51.039
<v Speaker 3>of does because in the same conversation as what would

2350
02:03:51.039 --> 02:03:53.920
<v Speaker 3>a fourth dimensional living entity look like to our three

2351
02:03:53.960 --> 02:03:57.520
<v Speaker 3>dimensional eyes? Right, and as we're talking about how some

2352
02:03:57.560 --> 02:04:00.880
<v Speaker 3>of these aliens, some of these extraterrestrials, some of these orbs,

2353
02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:04.239
<v Speaker 3>some of these flying craft whatever or whatever, could some

2354
02:04:04.319 --> 02:04:10.760
<v Speaker 3>of them be unpublicized new tech that certain government agencies

2355
02:04:10.800 --> 02:04:12.880
<v Speaker 3>are working on that we don't know what they are,

2356
02:04:12.920 --> 02:04:15.720
<v Speaker 3>so they just kind of blast them as UAPs.

2357
02:04:15.479 --> 02:04:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Could be sure?

2358
02:04:17.119 --> 02:04:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Could they equally be creatures from another planet that have

2359
02:04:21.880 --> 02:04:24.239
<v Speaker 3>made their way here in secret because they have tech

2360
02:04:24.279 --> 02:04:25.920
<v Speaker 3>that is way more advanced than ours, and they know

2361
02:04:25.960 --> 02:04:28.199
<v Speaker 3>how to pierce our atmosphere and our van Allen radiation

2362
02:04:28.279 --> 02:04:30.520
<v Speaker 3>belt and jumped light years in time, and all these

2363
02:04:30.560 --> 02:04:34.640
<v Speaker 3>things could be Could it also be a fourth or

2364
02:04:34.680 --> 02:04:39.840
<v Speaker 3>fifth or sixth dimensional living creature that for whatever reason

2365
02:04:40.319 --> 02:04:43.359
<v Speaker 3>has stepped down to our third dimensional plane even for

2366
02:04:43.560 --> 02:04:46.560
<v Speaker 3>just a second, and what our eyes will see won't

2367
02:04:46.600 --> 02:04:49.439
<v Speaker 3>make sense to us. I think all of these are

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02:04:49.680 --> 02:04:54.159
<v Speaker 3>very very possible. So the flat Lamb book with the

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02:04:54.199 --> 02:04:57.920
<v Speaker 3>flat Lands Monster, Braxton County Monster, whatever you want to

2370
02:04:57.960 --> 02:05:00.359
<v Speaker 3>call it, didn't mean for the connections to be made,

2371
02:05:00.359 --> 02:05:02.760
<v Speaker 3>but here we are man, and uh, I think when

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02:05:02.800 --> 02:05:05.000
<v Speaker 3>I found out there was an alien story on top

2373
02:05:05.039 --> 02:05:06.319
<v Speaker 3>of it, I was like, oh, we simply must do

2374
02:05:06.359 --> 02:05:07.199
<v Speaker 3>an episode on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, I love this this kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that there's so many things that are

2377
02:05:13.600 --> 02:05:17.600
<v Speaker 2>out there that we have no fucking clue are going on,

2378
02:05:17.880 --> 02:05:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Like there are there are always going to be things

2379
02:05:20.680 --> 02:05:24.319
<v Speaker 2>that that just blow minds and and and open up

2380
02:05:24.319 --> 02:05:27.600
<v Speaker 2>your third eye and just make you wonder like what

2381
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<v Speaker 2>if so so, Yeah, if you love this kind of stuff, please,

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that link is going to be down in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes below, but there are a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>other ways that people can support the show too.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, indeed, if you have not gotten your start in

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<v Speaker 3>the buying and selling and trading of gold and silver,

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<v Speaker 3>boy and good cult members, the best place to start

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. I'm telling you, now, look, we we get these.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's still at least possible for you to get

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